Speaker 1: It is stat panting guests a player time. It's been
a minute. Shout out to Maddie L who's been in
fifties on us getting guests of players in and submitted
a bunch of gaps. So if you want to give
guests the players for Grant or I to relay to
the other, you could join our discord and submit them there.
And as you're listening to this, we have not forgotten
to reveal the winner of the over under competition who
will come on an episode to do gap with us,
But that will be released in dual time as we
get prepared to announce some other stuff as well. Grant,
how confident are you feeling? I got three for you.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's been a while, so my confidence level is
is a little low. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not
feeling super confident. Plus I have playoff brain right now
and everything is a giant mess in my head.
Speaker 1: Right But don't you feel like you've been training for
this a little bit because of me having you guess
teams based off where their players were drafted, Like you've
just got all this useless information and so.
Speaker 2: Well, it's still all in there. By the way, every
last kernel of information. So yeah, you know you're right.
I'm gonna be more confident.
Speaker 1: Are you ready to start?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is clue number one of eight, so you've
got eight clues to get this guy. I was drafted
by the Bulls in nineteen ninety nine. Hmmm, tires Thomas,
that is incorrect. I respect the guests, though.
Speaker 2: Don't feel a little too early for him.
Speaker 1: Clue number two. In nineteen ninety two, I came off
the bench behind John Packson to help the Bulls win
their second championship.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, this person was drafted in ninety nine,
but it's coming off the bench in ninety two.
Speaker 1: Oh, nineteen eighty nine. If I said ninety nine, I apologize.
Speaker 2: It changes everything.
Speaker 1: Uh well, okay, you can retroactively guess someone else.
Speaker 2: Now drafted by the Bulls in eighty nine, and what
was the came off.
Speaker 1: The bench behind John Packson and helped the Bulls win
a championship in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: Craig Hodges, No, he wished too early.
Speaker 1: Some nice polls here. Clue number three. I became a
starter in nineteen ninety three and helped lead the team
to a third championship. I was also the league leader
in three point field goal percentage with forty five point three.
Speaker 2: Okay, drafted in eighty nine, backing up Packson in ninety two,
starts in ninety three? Is that right? M hm, this
should be easy? Why can't I? I'll say Ron Harper?
But Ron, it's too early for Ron Harper?
Speaker 1: Incorrect?
Speaker 2: He was drafted by the Cavs or the Clickers.
Speaker 1: Maybe clue number four. In nineteen ninety four, I led
the team in scoring and was selected to the nineteen
ninety four All Star Game and finished second in three
point field goal percentage at forty four point four. I
did not know. I would not have got like this.
Clue is honestly like eye opening for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm gonna keep drafted by the Bulls in
eighty nine. Correct is backing up Packson in ninety two,
starts in ninety three. Can shoot the shit out of it?
Is an All Star in ninety four? Correct?
Speaker 1: Correct led the team in scoring in ninety four. Two
I told you Jordan was a scrub Scotty Pippen incorrect, Well,
the three point shooting is not right. And then I
was like, well, he's not a point guard. But we
led the team in scoring in ninety four. I wonder
if that if that's a so that'd be the ninety
three ninety four season. Is that in total points? I
would have bet that Scotty Pippen was the Bulls leading scorer.
I'll double check that one. But that makes this a
good clue if it's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just blanking on. Yeah, that is because Jordan.
They win titles in uh, ninety one, ninety two, ninety three,
Jordan's gone ninety four, ninety five, those are the Rockets titles,
and then they win it again when he's back in
ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Scott, this was the second leading scorer in
total points for the Bulls in oka ninety four.
Speaker 2: I still am just blown away that I can't think
of a really good three point shooting point guard on
a Bulls team that I was very much like paying
attention to. This is a this is obnoxious. It's got
to be so obvious, and they drafted him. I hate this.
I should have got this.
Speaker 1: You ready for clue five?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I need it.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting clue too. I was the first
player drafted then in nineteen ninety five Expansion Draft by Toronto,
but refused to report. I was traded to the Warriors
for Victor Alexander, Martin Lewis, Michael McDonald, Carlos Rogers, and
Dwayne Whitfield.
Speaker 2: This is awful that I can't get this. It's like
everybody possible. How many of those names.
Speaker 1: That I just listed have you heard of before?
Speaker 2: Well, Victor Alexander for sure. Carlos Rogers, I'll give Carlos
Rogers as a rookie, came into a game, I want
to say, against the Spurs and I think blocked a
shot by David Robinson and it was all anyone talked
about for like two weeks in my life. So I do, yeah, Dan,
I do remember Corlas Rogers. I can't name this super
obvious point guard you played for the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Your recall on that moment. It's burned in my head. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Montellis had a similar debut where he came in and
just defended his ass off as a rookie in the
first couple of games, and everybody was like, this is
the greatest player of all time. Okay, rehashing again. Eighty
nine picked by the Bulls back up ninety two starter,
ninety three All Star in ninety four, can really shoot.
It ends up on the Warriors. Give me that trade again, please?
Who's in it?
Speaker 1: Carlos Rogers, your guy, Victor Alexander, Martin Lewis, and Dwayne Whitfield.
Speaker 2: Those last two names I do not remember. I mean
I should ninety four he's on the Warriors. It probably
would have been a big deal. This is bad. All
my Warriors friends fans are just like, how do you
not remember this? A really good shooter?
Speaker 1: Point?
Speaker 2: I don't. This is okay. How many more clues do
I have?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: Three?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's have another one.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen ninety seven ninety eight season, I was
traded to Charlotte for Tony Delk and Muggsy Bogues.
Speaker 2: God damn it. Tony Delk had fifty for the Warriors
one time. I remember that Tony Delk went to Kentucky.
You don't remember that Muggsy Bogues read his autobiography in
middle school? Did book report on it?
Speaker 1: What'd you get?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not important.
Speaker 1: Uh, she's allant. This is so bad.
Speaker 2: Oh, this, this and therefore is a great clue or
a great gap choice.
Speaker 1: The excellent gap here for Maddielle, and I will say
I'll be surprised if you get it on one of
the next two cls.
Speaker 2: Okay, give me, give me, give me the next clue.
Speaker 1: Then in ninety nine, I was traded to the Lakers
with Glenn Rice and J. R. Reid for Eldon Campbell
and Eddie Jones. I was immediately waived but signed with
the Magic Sorry, I I think give you only half
the clue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not helping me. I mean, so a
guy who was an All Star on the Bulls as
a guard man. Those those night mid nineties Warriors teams
were just blowing through players like Mookie Mookie Blaylock was
there for a minute that might have been later.
Speaker 1: That's incredible, incredible?
Speaker 2: Is it obvious? Like should I have got I should
have gotten it?
Speaker 1: Right? I think for you you should have had especially
because you're recalling like specific moments with Victor Alexander and
Carlos Rogers. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, because it would have been a big deal
and that was prime time as a Warriors fan to
talk yourself into like oh my god, oh my god,
Like this guy Bimbo Coles he's always going to be great,
or like, just all these guys, you are.
Speaker 1: Gonna hate yourself so much. Yeah, I can't wait for.
Speaker 2: The I already do. I already do. The fact that
he was an All Star on on that one of
those Pippen teams. I love those Pippen teams because it's
such a hipster thing for me to say. It's like, oh,
Scottie Pippen's so good. He could have done this all along.
I love those Bulls teams, and to have been on
the Warriors, it's just it's just awful that I can't
think of this.
Speaker 1: He led the Bulls in total minutes the year he
made an All Star two thousand, seven hundred and seventy.
I think Kawhi would pass away just reading that number.
Speaker 2: That's a twenty seven hundred minutes.
Speaker 1: They were built different back then.
Speaker 2: It drafted in eighty nine, so like he's so he's
five years in by the time he's an All Star
for the Bulls as a guard.
Speaker 1: That was his only All Star appearance. It was a
little bit of a bones clue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not him, because it's this comes later,
is a Randy Brown is later? It's not Randy Brown.
Speaker 1: Randy Brown.
Speaker 2: Mmm, man, okay, I guess that that last cludon and helps.
I'll just take the final one.
Speaker 1: You have two left?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll take this.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, you have one left. Sorry. In
August ninety nine, I re signed with the Bulls and
at the end of the two thousand season, I retired.
Speaker 2: Short career.
Speaker 1: Uh played eleven years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it seems like he was kind
of bouncing around and irrelevant, Like by the time you
get to the ninety four Warrior ninety five Warriors, you're
you're irrelevant.
Speaker 1: I know it's a different time. But played eleven years,
made a total of sixteen point four million dollars, which
is basically the mid level exception right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was an All Star at some point.
Speaker 1: Let me see if there's any okay he was which
called he went to Iowa.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh this is awful. That's that's another.
This is an inspired pick. Went to Iowa. Is a
guard nickname the kid that doesn't help me. Can I
tell you that this one is gonna hurt more than
anyone that we have done yet, because so many things
that I should that I think I know about nineties
Bulls Warriors Iowa. Uh, this is this is so rough,
this is so so rough. He's give me the season
that he's on the Warriors. It's it's the ninety five
ninety six.
Speaker 1: He's on the Warriors for ninety five, ninety six, ninety six,
ninety seven, and then he got traded in the ninety
seven ninety eight season.
Speaker 2: And he is a point guard. This isn't like a
messing with the positional thing. Sandy backs up packson, No.
Speaker 1: He is a point guard. His assists were never where
you would expect the point guards to be.
Speaker 2: So he's a she's a shooter. This can't be right. Yeah,
none of these teams are right. It's not Tim Legler. Nope,
in go to Iowa. He went to like from Virginia
or something West Virginia.
Speaker 1: He was born in Detroit, Michigan. He attended high school
which you will recognize because it's a domestic high school,
brother Rice in Birmingham, Michigan. Eighteenth overall in nineteen eighty nine.
Who went who went in front of him, and who
went behind him? So he was drafted one pick after
Sean Kemp and drafted one pick before Kenny Payne.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I don't think this is I don't. I
don't unless you have like a help another clue.
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to go with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's all there, right, it's all the informations there.
Speaker 1: Jersey number he wore number ten and eleven were predominantly
his numbers. He wore number two with the magic, but
ten and eleven otherwise, three time.
Speaker 2: Champion, three time champion. Well you got one, yeah, with
the early bulls. I just, uh, who else is on
those bulls teams? I just I got absolutely nothing. I
just need to know now. I just I want you
to prepare for how much, how frustrated I'm going to be,
and how just the face palming pain of all this.
Bj Armstrong, Jesus fucking Christ.
Speaker 1: That's awful, what a gap by. There are two reasons
I still do this. One I have bills to pay,
and two to see the reactions in which you just
absolutely loathe yourself. They are they are fuel for me.
That was incredible.
Speaker 2: I have I feel so much shame. I feel so
much shame. Yeah, I remember the bj Armstrong era. Honestly
I had I did not know he was an All star.
I did not know that. I would never I saw he.
Speaker 1: Led the Bulls in scoring, and it turns out he
was h third in scoring, second in total scoring.
Speaker 2: That I was like, what, I just yeah, I mean
that is just It's like, I have no excuse, great, great,
excellent player choice. I don't know why I think like
I think. My short term memory is also just bleeding
into I my just terrible mental blocks. Okay, we need
to move on. Memory is pretty good, well only for
dumb shit like Carlos Rogers NBA debut. How excited I
was about it? All right, I have one for you,
for Mattiel, and I want to double check that. I okay,
I know who it is now, all right, I'm just
gonna take a minute to come down from that.
Speaker 1: B Jair.
Speaker 2: I'm strong, just so bad, all right, all right, get
I'm a professional. I'm a professional. I'm gonna get it together.
Clue number one, Dan, I played college for Arason.
Speaker 1: Well, this is honestly disallowed. Let's move on.
Speaker 2: You know, you know that's how everybody's gonna start the
clues for you. Now you have to get the guests.
Speaker 1: You didn't tell me what college they went to. You
just in Arizona.
Speaker 2: I study played college for Arizona.
Speaker 1: You said he went to college went to college in Arizona.
Uh DeAndre, Good, guess he did go to Arizona.
Speaker 2: That's James Harden. He went to Arizona State. Here good,
right State? All right? Clue number two. I was drafted
top ten by an Eastern Conference team in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not going to get this one h two
thousand and five, went to Arizona. I'm going to pretend
like that matters to me. Ah, two thousand and five. No,
he went to Georgetown. So yeah, I know some stuff.
Shane Anderson, Shannon Anderson.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I love it. It's not Shannon Anderson. Why did
that name come into your mind?
Speaker 1: I honestly have no To be fair, these two were
just kind of out there. Went to Arizona, got drafted
in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: This is this is a tough time period, I think.
Uh So. Clue number three. I was selected to the
five six all Rookie first team.
Speaker 1: I'm all right, the rookies from that time two thousand
and five, two thousand and six, that's is that like
a black hole of NBA war feels like it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Richard Lewis. M not regard Lewis was drafted by a
Western Conference team. He also definitely didn't go to Arizona.
I think he didn't even go to college and go
to college.
Speaker 2: Okay, clue number four. In two thousand and seven, I
was traded along with Steve Francis to a Western Conference
team for Zach Randolph Fred Jones and Dan Dickow.
Speaker 1: I was traded with Steve Francis. Can you read that? Back?
Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, I was traded along with
Steve Francis to a Western Conference team for Zach Randolph
Fred Jones and Dan Dickou.
Speaker 1: But he was drafted by an Eastern Conference team. He's
still on this Eastern Conference team at the time. I'm
trying to think. I think he must have been.
Speaker 2: Yes, traded.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so he was traded. Read it one more time.
He was traded you.
Speaker 2: So it's it's O seven and he's traded with Steve Francis,
who I think I'll just tell you is on this
Eastern Conference team with with the mystery player. They go
to a Western Conference team for Randolph, Fred Jones and
Dan Dickow. Gosh, I don't know that that's that's hard
because I don't remember and off playing for the team
of that I'm thinking of m I think the next
handful of clues will be more helpful.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, hit me, He went, Okay, I don't
even have a good one here. Yeah hit me.
Speaker 2: This is clue five and you have ten plus a bonus.
In July two thousand and nine, I signed with Phoenix,
and in twenty ten I signed a new five year,
thirty million dollar contract with them with Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Signed with Phoenix five years, thirty million in two thousand
and nine with Phoenix. Uh those Sons. So he's like
there for seven seconds or less Suns thereabouts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh not.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be one of the main guys that
who are on those teams. Now, you got to give
me that clue. I got nothing, okay, Michael Finley, No,
the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clue number six. During my time with the Suns
in twenty twelve, I learned I had an enlarged heart. However,
I was clearly to play.
Speaker 1: In twenty can't be Katino Mobile, is it? No?
Speaker 2: It's not Katino mobiley damn it.
Speaker 1: Didn't he have a heart. Chuck Hayes nope, okay, sorry,
go ahead. I had a heart condition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and large heart diagnosed. I guess in twenty twelve.
He was cleared to play again in twenty thirteen. I
vaguely he's vaguely remember that. That's that's a deep cut
clue number seven. In July twenty fourteen, I signed a
four year, thirty two million dollar contract with Orlando.
Speaker 1: Who keeps paying this guy? Well, I know who keeps
paying him. Who is this guy that keeps getting paid?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty decent money for twenty four teens.
Speaker 1: Still twenty fourteen, four years, thirty two million, My god,
I don't have any how heart can I'm gonna hung
up on that now because I feel like I know
what based off the heart condition.
Speaker 2: It's not the first thing I think of with this player.
I think now we're getting more into what you might
think of, or at least like I wouldn't have gotten
him by now.
Speaker 1: No way, hit me with the hit me with the
next clue.
Speaker 2: In February twenty sixteen, I was traded to Cleveland for
Jared Cunningham and a future second rounder. I won an
NBA Finals with the Cavs despite not playing in the
last three games of the final series.
Speaker 1: So this guy's a round for a while, won a
title with Oh wait ah, is it Channing Frye?
Speaker 2: It is Channing Frye. You gotta Joe.
Speaker 1: I should have got I should have got that sooner
two thousand and five, or that was a great that
was another good gap. I should have got that one sooner.
He was a nick, right, and then he yeah? And
then I remember he was on this. I do remember
the time with the songs. Oh man, I follow me
on Twitter too. I should have known this.
Speaker 2: So I was thrown because I was thinking that Steve
Francis trade was coming from Orlando. But Francis was on
the Knicks for a minute, right, I remembered that.
Speaker 1: But then I was then in my head, I was like,
was he there that early? I couldn't remember when the
Steve Francis Steph Marberry disaster class.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, Zach Randolf never played for
the Magic, but he did play for the Nick. Yeah, Okay,
that I didn't I should have assumed. So basically, Mattie
l is messing with us because he gave you a
Nick and he gave me a Warrior.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you su yeah, But Can I tell you
how hyped I was when they had Steph Marbury and
Steve Francis just the name wreck. I thought, this is
gonna be dope.
Speaker 2: So fun when you don't know any better, you're just
like that guy's good. Just a lot of fun to
be that kind, you know what.
Speaker 1: I started to really know when they got Tracy McGrady
was the first time I loved T MAC. I was
just like, this is all about Lebron. But I went
to Trady c mcgrady's first game with the Knicks, and
he hit like a shot that either pushed them to
overtime or they won the game. And then I was like,
we're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I remember, like Jenny, with the rest of the crowded,
I think, really, uh, we get along well because I
was also just very much a Tracy McGrady guy. And
during the uh when Paula was going for forty five
or whatever it was, they were putting the graphic up
of like Orlando Magic Playoff highs and they started showing
highlights of like two thousand and three McGrady and I
stopped and I grabbed my son. I was like, you
need to watch this, you need to see what a
true athlete looks like. And just oh three McGrady buddy,
like that guy T mac was.
Speaker 1: He was so fun to watch. I loved his shoes too,
was another part of it. All right, grant your next
guess a player. Are you ready?
Speaker 2: No, I'm still defeated, but I all soldier on next.
Speaker 1: For this one, so you don't so don't fear you'll
get it. Clue number one. I played college at Creighton
and was named first team All MVC in my senior year.
Kyle Korver incorrect, good guess, though I'd.
Speaker 2: Like to win. I'd like to venture a second guest.
Go ahead, Doug McDermott.
Speaker 1: That is also incorrect.
Speaker 2: I'm in big trouble.
Speaker 1: Then those keep naming Caucasian shooters. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Those the only guys I know, all right.
Speaker 1: Clue number two. I went undrafted in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a long time ago, although I did guess,
Kyle Korver. That feels about right for Kyle Korver.
Speaker 1: Bro you don't get to claim it was a long
time ago when you're out here talking about Carlos Rogers anecdotes.
Speaker 2: Well, I remember the mid nineties a lot well you
wouldn't know it from the bj R Armstrong debacle, which
is how it's going to be referred to from now on.
But I remember the mid nineties better than the mid
two thousands. All right, uh, Creighton?
Speaker 1: And then what was that went undrafted in two thousand
and seven?
Speaker 2: All right? Undrafted? Good good college player? Undrafted in seven
out of Creighton. Okay, I don't think I have a guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, Clue number three. Despite making the opening day roster
for the Cleveland Cavaliers, I did not play my first
NBA game until this November seventh, two thousand and eight,
with the San Antonio Spurs. So undrafted in two thousand
and seven, did not make his NBA debut until two
thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: And it's for the Spurs. Create players eight Spurs. Who
is on the Spurs in eight? That's pretty pretty prime?
Duncan parkerdge nobly? Uh? Wait, I mean it could be?
Is it Bruce Bowen? Did he go to Creyton?
Speaker 1: That is incorrect?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Clue number four. After being waived by the Spurs in
January twenty twenty nine. On January two thousand and nine,
and playing both overseas and in the G League. I
was signed by the Trailblazers in December two thousand and
nine and only played two games.
Speaker 2: I don't think I have no creaton association, but he
just came to mind.
Speaker 1: Is Malik Rose incorrect? It's a good guess though, all right.
Clue five. After signing a ten day contract in January
twenty ten with the Warriors, Damn. I was then signed
to a contract for the rest of the season by
the Warriors in February.
Speaker 2: We're in what eight or nine? Yeah?
Speaker 1: January twenty ten?
Speaker 2: Oh ten, okay, twenty ten. Creating player basically doesn't play
at all for the Spurs or Blazers. Correct, he was
Does it say he was traded to the Warriors or
he signed with the Warriors?
Speaker 1: He was waived? Uho. He signed with the Warriors ten
day contract in January twenty ten.
Speaker 2: From crazy Hmmm, don't have it? Next clue clues Clue six.
Speaker 1: During my time with the Warriors, I scored a career
high thirty four points in a game and average twelve
point three points per game overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we still don't have a position. Thirty four and
twenty ten. Those are some awful, awful teams. Let's see
average twelve. That's pretty good. But then if somebody's got
a score on those teams, I still don't have it.
Next clue, please, clue seven.
Speaker 1: During the season, I was second on the Warriors in
double doubles with twelve, equal to Steph, who also had
a triple double that season.
Speaker 2: I still don't know if that's points and rebounds, points
and assists. It's not the person you always associate with
early Steph is ac Law, but I don't think any
of the clues apply to him. I'll just say his name,
but I'm sure that's not who it is.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 2: Double doubles from Creighton This is a hard one. Yeah,
you're telling me all right, Next clue please.
Speaker 1: Between twenty ten and twenty twenty one, I played for
the Timberwolves twice, Atlanta, Charlotte, Phoenix, the Pistons twice, the
Blazers twice, the Kings twice, Memphis and Philadelphia. Me has
been around the block so many teams.
Speaker 2: Huh, Creighton, I'm stuck on Creighton. That's probably although that's
a pretty I mean, nothing else is like really defining
this player so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would have to the next one
would be the one that maybe you would get it on.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it. Then what's the next one?
Speaker 1: Clue nine. My second go round with the Kings came
about due to a trade where the Kings received myself
and Kent Bazemore and two second round picks. Portland received
Trevor Ariza Wheny and Gabriel and Caleb Swanagan.
Speaker 2: So, a former warrior goes, let's see, from Portland to
the Kings. Basemore goes from the Kings? Is that right?
Beasemore is not with him, He's going opposite this player.
Speaker 1: Baysmore plus this player and two second round picks went
to the Kings, and then Trevor, Reza, Gabriel and Swanagan
went to the Blaze of Portland.
Speaker 2: Hmm do you so that that trade? You remember?
Speaker 1: I remember the trade. I don't remember this player being
in it.
Speaker 2: Okay, great. In my brain, the only thing that's there
is just the word Creighton. I don't know why, I'm
so like, I feel like, why why do I think
that's the giveaway of mainly because all we've got otherwise
are teams and twelve points per game.
Speaker 1: This is honestly this I wouldn't have gotten this is
this is so hard.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many more clues do I have?
Speaker 1: Just one? Oh boy?
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it. This might be I may
be over two.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, I was signed to a ten
day via hardship exception by the New Orleans Pelicans, but
it was voided the next day due to a positive
COVID test. Trying to see if I could give you
any bonus clues here, So here's some bonus clues that
I know off rip about this player big man. Oh okay,
I was thinking mostly mostly a power forward. Did play
some three, but could scale out that like, did play
some also?
Speaker 2: Five boy, oh boy, oh boy? Thirty four? Uh, Quincy pondexter,
that is incorrect. Dante Cunningham another good guest. But no,
I don't know why I'm thinking of those guys.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's see. So we've got like, well, the he he's
played for a thousand teams. So two stints you said
with Portland too, with the Kings to the Pistons, like
a front court player, but with somewhat malleable.
Speaker 1: I think, for some reason I most associate him with
the Pistons. I can't tell you why.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, if if you say positionally, like what if
you had to pick one position that this guy in
power forward? Man, I don't think I'm not gonna get it.
I don't have it.
Speaker 1: It is. I wouldn't have gotten it either. It is
Anthony Tolliver.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's really tough. That's that's not bj Armstrong.
I should have gotten Anthony Tolliver. I don't feel too
terrible about I think if Oliver, who's.
Speaker 1: The team you most remember? Okay, the timber Wolves say,
where's the team you most associate him with?
Speaker 2: I mean I remember the War like I remember, like
this team is so bad that Anthony Tolliver plays a
lot and he's like shooting a lot of threes. I'm
sure that thirty four point game was was principally some threes. Yeah,
that's Jesus Christ. Okay, Hey, matty Ll is on fire
right right now? Let's see, Uh all right, I will
all right, I have one for you. You're gonna get it,
clue number one. Also for Mattiel. I did not play
number one.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it.
Speaker 2: No, I did not play in college. So you're off
the hook there. You want to one shot kill it.
Speaker 1: I didn't play in college.
Speaker 2: Darius Miles, good guess No, I was drafted top ten.
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2: I was drafted top ten in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: God, I was drafted top ten in twenty seventeen. That's
the year? No, what's the end?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: What's the year? This isn't the guest, but what's the
Anthony Bennett draft? Was that twenty sixteen? Or is that
twenty seventeen?
Speaker 2: I think it's earlier than that. I want to say fourteen.
Oh well fuck, maybe that's Wiggins.
Speaker 1: No, no, you're right two thousand seven. Drafted top ten
in twenty seventeen. Didn't go I should didn't go to
high school. But that could be because or college. Didn't
go to college, but that could be because they're an
international player. Poor thing is was twenty fifteen. Ah to
hit me next clue.
Speaker 2: I was the second youngest active player during my rookie
season behind ike Anigbogu. The name I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Drafted top ten twenty seventeen. Super young man? Who is this?
That was almost a decade ago at this point too.
That's wild. Twenty seventeen top ten didn't go to college
don maker.
Speaker 2: No good guess. I was selected to Team World in
twenty eighteen for the Rising Stars Game at the All
Star Weekend. I not helpful.
Speaker 1: Not helpful at all international players that we know that.
I'm still hung up on international Top ten twenty seventeen.
They're not as maudy Unis.
Speaker 2: Nope. Nice guess went to college, didn't he? I don't know.
I think he's a little that's your I don't think
he was picked in the top ten. Clue, next clue.
I signed with the Dallas Mavericks in September twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: They signed as a restricted free agent, or they were
just a free agent and weren't good draft in the
top ten?
Speaker 2: Signed we base real quick?
Speaker 1: Yep, sorry there, okay, signed with Dallas in twenty twenty one.
That's still the row when the MAVs were trying to
win the free agency matter and the MAVs were just
trying to make moves. Didn't go to college international player?
Who is this? When were they drafted again?
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen top ten?
Speaker 1: I don't have it.
Speaker 2: Next clue, please, next clue, which is one, two, three, four,
five six. I signed with the Charlotte Hornets in August
twenty twenty three, and was waived in February of twenty four.
Speaker 1: Who is this person? Signed it with the Hornets in
twenty twenty three was waved by the Hornets. Yes, drafted
top ten. Oh my god, I'm gonna hate myself for
this one. Drafted top ten in twenty seventeen. You have
a face on.
Speaker 2: You will get it. Just the next clue. Probably, I
have no doubt you have two more clues. I have
no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: That you I want to take like a stap. The
Mavericks one is now bothering me more than the drafted
in the top ten.
Speaker 2: And twenty seven. You don't have the original team, which
is the which makes this hard um.
Speaker 1: Drafted in twenty seventeen in the top ten. All right,
next clue, please.
Speaker 2: Clue seven. I was born to Rwandan parents in Belgium,
but play for the French national team.
Speaker 1: God damn it, it's a frank.
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what the eighth and final
clue was going to be? Shout out to me if
you've gotten the Knicks and you would have known immediately.
So well well played by Mattielle to not give you
Nick's top ten pick in. Oh man, he we do,
though have a pattern, because you got two Nicks and
I got two Warriors, the difference being you went two
for two and I was zero for two. So you
are the guest of player champion at least until we
do this again.
Speaker 1: Well you have won more. Oh good, you're you're gonna
get I know you're gonna get this one.
Speaker 2: Thank you, No, thank you. I'm very shaken.
Speaker 1: Clue number one. My father was drafted by the Dallas
Mavericks in the nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: Draft Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 1: That is incorrect. Clue number two. I played college for Texas.
Speaker 2: Uh played college for Texas. Father drafted in eighty five.
Speaker 1: So we're like, played college in Texas, has a dad?
Speaker 2: Those are your clues in Texas or at Texas for Texas.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm assuming that. I'm gonna assume that's
it is because I know I know this. I actually
probably wouldn't have gotten it by now, but this player
did play for Texas.
Speaker 2: LaMarcus Aldridge.
Speaker 1: That is incorrect. Clue number three. I was drafted in
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're way later than I thought. Texas twenty seventeen
how's a father has a father, has a father who
played in the NBA or was drafted? I mean that
should be that should get you pretty close. Twenty seventeen.
Another twenty seventeen draft d out of Texas or not out?
See I know this player did play for Texas. I
do not. It's way too late for TJ. Ford obviously,
not Kevin Durant, who else played for Texas?
Speaker 1: You got this?
Speaker 2: I should have it.
Speaker 1: Now you're saying no, you're gonna get it. There's eight clues.
I think you're gonna get it on clue five.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's have the next one then, please clue four.
Speaker 1: I was the second youngest player ever to set foot
on the floor for my team. Another smart move by
him not giving you the original team.
Speaker 2: Hmm, really young player out of Texas? Does do you associate?
You knew this player played at Texas?
Speaker 1: You have all I would not have gotten it on
clue too. But had you said player X, what college
did he go to? I would have gotten that.
Speaker 2: I see correct? I see. Okay, So he's at least
it's not like a trick. He's at least like associated
with Texas somehow. Not a lot of Texas players come
in to mind, though really young but still went to college.
So do all right? Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't,
I don't. I'll take the next clue.
Speaker 1: Clue five, This is the this is this might be
the well, this isn't the one. You're gonna get it
on one of the other ones. But in twenty twenty one,
I was part of a fourteen trade that included James Harden.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one. Mm hm, so that's probably rockets
to nets. Yeah, I'm not those never, Those are much
more Those types of clues are much more helpful for
you than from me. The murmuring the trade stuff, because
I don't know if it's four teams, I could even
be the sixers one for all. I don't know. Oh,
Ben Simmons, No, in LSU LSU holy shit.
Speaker 1: Also was not part of the James Hardened four team trade.
Speaker 2: Awful. I said it like it was right too.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you sounded like sixty percent sure, which.
Speaker 2: Most sure I've been at any point in this exercise,
which is not saying a lot.
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna get it, So don't.
Speaker 2: Have Can you keep saying that clue.
Speaker 1: Number six and I was named the twenty twenty two
All Star Game on Team Lebron. It's also I'll just
add only All Star appearance this player has.
Speaker 2: Why would I get it off of this?
Speaker 1: I just said you're gonna get it. I didn't say
this would be the clue. I also didn't think that
you thought Ben Simmons went to Texas and was part
of the four teams.
Speaker 2: James Harden tells you how on tilt I am.
Speaker 1: That eel's in between your ears?
Speaker 2: It really is. I think I might just be getting
worse at this too. That's a point.
Speaker 1: We haven't done it in a while. We need to
make sure that we're cycling back more than once a
quarter to get some better.
Speaker 2: Just keep the muscles exercised. All Star in twenty two
from Texas with a father that was at least drafted by.
Speaker 1: I keep assuming I did not know his dad was
in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not when it's not closely associated twenty
two All Star from Texas, I mean, twenty two is
not that long ago.
Speaker 1: It is not.
Speaker 2: And he's in the hardened trade correct which we which
I'm assuming is Houston to Brooklyn. Yeah, that seems right, hmm,
but that's a four team trade, so it's not necessarily
Houston or Brooklyn. Correct deal. Just keep fishing for this
is bat Okay, I'll take another clue.
Speaker 1: Okay, clue number seven of eight. On January twenty second,
twenty twenty four, I set the franchise record for double doubles,
placing me ahead of Andre Drummond and Elmore Smith.
Speaker 2: So well, I mean that makes me think. You just
it's a franchise record, not for anything.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Well, so this player sets a franchise record of some kind,
being for double doubles, for double doubles. Okay, so that's Detroit.
Speaker 1: Single season double doubles.
Speaker 2: Just to clarify, Okay, so I assume that's Detroit. Uh
Elmore Smith though I don't remember. I don't know who
Elmore Smith was for. I mean, it could be a
Bulls record. It could be was Drummond on the nets
at some point. I think he was. Hard to say, though,
Texas guy get a bunch of double doubles. This is
so frustrating. Dan really in the league, really young big guy.
I think I'm like, I'm defeated. I can't even think
of somebody right now. Mattie Hill has broken me. Man,
I just can't think, Oh wait, why would this guy?
How does this guy set a record of that Andre
Drummond had. That can't be right. I want to say
Miles Turner. I think Miles Turner went to Texas, But
like what that that That can't be right. He trade
it's incorrect. Yeah, I'm just glad I thought I if
Miles Turner didn't go to Texas, I'm gonna retire because
that's the only reason I brought up them up.
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of like big guys that
would have been on an All Star team in twenty two. Drummond,
this is.
Speaker 1: The the double double thing is wrong? Oh okay, because
I just looked it up, So I don't know what
the fan unless I'm reading the clue wrong, said the
franchise record for double doubles, placing me ahead of Andre
Drummond and Elmore Smith. Yeah, that's not that's not right.
This registers as the tie for the eighth most in
franchise history.
Speaker 2: M maybe it's a consecutive double doubles or something.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe when I saw that that was the
one that stood out, You're gonna get it on the
next clue. I'm trying to think if there's another one
that So I'm gonna give you the teams that were
involved in that James Harden trade. Okay, Pacers, Calves, nets,
and Rockets. He has not played for another team since
that trade. Oh, so he's still on the team he
was traded to.
Speaker 2: Is it Jared Allen?
Speaker 1: It is Jared Allen, that is correct.
Speaker 2: I swear to god, I would never have guessed he
went to Texas.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, do you want to know clue number eight
was sure? Apologies to me. Yeah, I hope, I hope
you would have gotten it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Texas. I mean I I know how you
feel now where it's like, oh the college clue, thanks
a lot, did not it did not help at all. Ugh, brutal.
I'm glad I sort of kind of got one. I'm
glad he softballed me there. Well I needed your clue though, man, all.
Speaker 1: Right, take us out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks everybody for listening. Thanks mostly to Mattiel for
its entirely ruin Yeah, ruining my day, shaking my confidence, uh,
making me tip from I'm a little suspicious to now
I am convinced I have dementia.
Speaker 1: I will say these were great gaps. But Anthony Tolliver,
that was sick oh ship that I never would have
gotten that one.
Speaker 2: You know, we we all's dodgers.
Speaker 1: That was also a sick shit good job by you.
Speaker 2: We we like to think, you know, we're still at
our best, and sometimes we get reminded that we're slipping.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so that's that's the lesson I'm going to take
away from today. Remember the rate Reviews. Subscribe if you
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