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Speaker 1: It is stat panting guests a player time. It's been

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a minute. Shout out to Maddie L who's been in

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fifties on us getting guests of players in and submitted

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a bunch of gaps. So if you want to give

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guests the players for Grant or I to relay to

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the other, you could join our discord and submit them there.

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And as you're listening to this, we have not forgotten

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to reveal the winner of the over under competition who

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will come on an episode to do gap with us,

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But that will be released in dual time as we

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get prepared to announce some other stuff as well. Grant,

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how confident are you feeling? I got three for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's been a while, so my confidence level is

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is a little low. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not

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feeling super confident. Plus I have playoff brain right now

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and everything is a giant mess in my head.

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Speaker 1: Right But don't you feel like you've been training for

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this a little bit because of me having you guess

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teams based off where their players were drafted, Like you've

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just got all this useless information and so.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's still all in there. By the way, every

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last kernel of information. So yeah, you know you're right.

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I'm gonna be more confident.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to start?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is clue number one of eight, so you've

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got eight clues to get this guy. I was drafted

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by the Bulls in nineteen ninety nine. Hmmm, tires Thomas,

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that is incorrect. I respect the guests, though.

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Speaker 2: Don't feel a little too early for him.

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Speaker 1: Clue number two. In nineteen ninety two, I came off

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the bench behind John Packson to help the Bulls win

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their second championship.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, this person was drafted in ninety nine,

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but it's coming off the bench in ninety two.

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Speaker 1: Oh, nineteen eighty nine. If I said ninety nine, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: It changes everything.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, okay, you can retroactively guess someone else.

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Speaker 2: Now drafted by the Bulls in eighty nine, and what

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was the came off.

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Speaker 1: The bench behind John Packson and helped the Bulls win

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a championship in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Craig Hodges, No, he wished too early.

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Speaker 1: Some nice polls here. Clue number three. I became a

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starter in nineteen ninety three and helped lead the team

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to a third championship. I was also the league leader

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in three point field goal percentage with forty five point three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, drafted in eighty nine, backing up Packson in ninety two,

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starts in ninety three? Is that right? M hm, this

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should be easy? Why can't I? I'll say Ron Harper?

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But Ron, it's too early for Ron Harper?

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Speaker 1: Incorrect?

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Speaker 2: He was drafted by the Cavs or the Clickers.

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Speaker 1: Maybe clue number four. In nineteen ninety four, I led

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the team in scoring and was selected to the nineteen

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ninety four All Star Game and finished second in three

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point field goal percentage at forty four point four. I

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did not know. I would not have got like this.

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Clue is honestly like eye opening for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm gonna keep drafted by the Bulls in

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eighty nine. Correct is backing up Packson in ninety two,

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starts in ninety three. Can shoot the shit out of it?

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Is an All Star in ninety four? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Correct led the team in scoring in ninety four. Two

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I told you Jordan was a scrub Scotty Pippen incorrect, Well,

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the three point shooting is not right. And then I

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was like, well, he's not a point guard. But we

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led the team in scoring in ninety four. I wonder

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if that if that's a so that'd be the ninety

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three ninety four season. Is that in total points? I

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would have bet that Scotty Pippen was the Bulls leading scorer.

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I'll double check that one. But that makes this a

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good clue if it's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just blanking on. Yeah, that is because Jordan.

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and then they win it again when he's back in

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ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Scott, this was the second leading scorer in

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total points for the Bulls in oka ninety four.

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Speaker 2: I still am just blown away that I can't think

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of a really good three point shooting point guard on

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a Bulls team that I was very much like paying

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attention to. This is a this is obnoxious. It's got

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to be so obvious, and they drafted him. I hate this.

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I should have got this.

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Speaker 1: You ready for clue five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I need it.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting clue too. I was the first

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player drafted then in nineteen ninety five Expansion Draft by Toronto,

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but refused to report. I was traded to the Warriors

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for Victor Alexander, Martin Lewis, Michael McDonald, Carlos Rogers, and

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Dwayne Whitfield.

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Speaker 2: This is awful that I can't get this. It's like

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everybody possible. How many of those names.

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Speaker 1: That I just listed have you heard of before?

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Speaker 2: Well, Victor Alexander for sure. Carlos Rogers, I'll give Carlos

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Rogers as a rookie, came into a game, I want

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to say, against the Spurs and I think blocked a

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shot by David Robinson and it was all anyone talked

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about for like two weeks in my life. So I do, yeah, Dan,

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I do remember Corlas Rogers. I can't name this super

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obvious point guard you played for the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Your recall on that moment. It's burned in my head. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Montellis had a similar debut where he came in and

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just defended his ass off as a rookie in the

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first couple of games, and everybody was like, this is

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the greatest player of all time. Okay, rehashing again. Eighty

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nine picked by the Bulls back up ninety two starter,

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ninety three All Star in ninety four, can really shoot.

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It ends up on the Warriors. Give me that trade again, please?

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Who's in it?

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Speaker 1: Carlos Rogers, your guy, Victor Alexander, Martin Lewis, and Dwayne Whitfield.

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Speaker 2: Those last two names I do not remember. I mean

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would have been a big deal. This is bad. All

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my Warriors friends fans are just like, how do you

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not remember this? A really good shooter?

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Speaker 1: Point?

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Speaker 2: I don't. This is okay. How many more clues do

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Speaker 1: Two?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 1: Three?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's have another one.

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Speaker 1: In the nineteen ninety seven ninety eight season, I was

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traded to Charlotte for Tony Delk and Muggsy Bogues.

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Speaker 2: God damn it. Tony Delk had fifty for the Warriors

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one time. I remember that Tony Delk went to Kentucky.

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You don't remember that Muggsy Bogues read his autobiography in

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middle school? Did book report on it?

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Speaker 1: What'd you get?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not important.

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Speaker 1: Uh, she's allant. This is so bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this, this and therefore is a great clue or

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a great gap choice.

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Speaker 1: The excellent gap here for Maddielle, and I will say

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I'll be surprised if you get it on one of

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the next two cls.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me, give me, give me the next clue.

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Speaker 1: Then in ninety nine, I was traded to the Lakers

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with Glenn Rice and J. R. Reid for Eldon Campbell

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and Eddie Jones. I was immediately waived but signed with

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the Magic Sorry, I I think give you only half

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not helping me. I mean, so a

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guy who was an All Star on the Bulls as

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a guard man. Those those night mid nineties Warriors teams

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were just blowing through players like Mookie Mookie Blaylock was

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there for a minute that might have been later.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible, incredible?

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Speaker 2: Is it obvious? Like should I have got I should

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have gotten it?

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Speaker 1: Right? I think for you you should have had especially

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because you're recalling like specific moments with Victor Alexander and

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Carlos Rogers. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, because it would have been a big deal

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and that was prime time as a Warriors fan to

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talk yourself into like oh my god, oh my god,

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Like this guy Bimbo Coles he's always going to be great,

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or like, just all these guys, you are.

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Speaker 1: Gonna hate yourself so much. Yeah, I can't wait for.

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Speaker 2: The I already do. I already do. The fact that

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he was an All Star on on that one of

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those Pippen teams. I love those Pippen teams because it's

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such a hipster thing for me to say. It's like, oh,

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Scottie Pippen's so good. He could have done this all along.

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I love those Bulls teams, and to have been on

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the Warriors, it's just it's just awful that I can't

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think of this.

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Speaker 1: He led the Bulls in total minutes the year he

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made an All Star two thousand, seven hundred and seventy.

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I think Kawhi would pass away just reading that number.

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Speaker 2: That's a twenty seven hundred minutes.

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Speaker 1: They were built different back then.

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Speaker 2: It drafted in eighty nine, so like he's so he's

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five years in by the time he's an All Star

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for the Bulls as a guard.

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Speaker 1: That was his only All Star appearance. It was a

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little bit of a bones clue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not him, because it's this comes later,

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is a Randy Brown is later? It's not Randy Brown.

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Speaker 1: Randy Brown.

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Speaker 2: Mmm, man, okay, I guess that that last cludon and helps.

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I'll just take the final one.

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Speaker 1: You have two left?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll take this.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, you have one left. Sorry. In

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August ninety nine, I re signed with the Bulls and

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at the end of the two thousand season, I retired.

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Speaker 2: Short career.

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Speaker 1: Uh played eleven years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it seems like he was kind

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of bouncing around and irrelevant, Like by the time you

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get to the ninety four Warrior ninety five Warriors, you're

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you're irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a different time. But played eleven years,

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made a total of sixteen point four million dollars, which

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is basically the mid level exception right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was an All Star at some point.

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Speaker 1: Let me see if there's any okay he was which

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called he went to Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh this is awful. That's that's another.

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This is an inspired pick. Went to Iowa. Is a

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guard nickname the kid that doesn't help me. Can I

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tell you that this one is gonna hurt more than

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anyone that we have done yet, because so many things

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that I should that I think I know about nineties

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Bulls Warriors Iowa. Uh, this is this is so rough,

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this is so so rough. He's give me the season

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that he's on the Warriors. It's it's the ninety five

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ninety six.

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Speaker 1: He's on the Warriors for ninety five, ninety six, ninety six,

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ninety seven, and then he got traded in the ninety

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seven ninety eight season.

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Speaker 2: And he is a point guard. This isn't like a

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messing with the positional thing. Sandy backs up packson, No.

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Speaker 1: He is a point guard. His assists were never where

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you would expect the point guards to be.

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Speaker 2: So he's a she's a shooter. This can't be right. Yeah,

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none of these teams are right. It's not Tim Legler. Nope,

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in go to Iowa. He went to like from Virginia

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or something West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: He was born in Detroit, Michigan. He attended high school

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which you will recognize because it's a domestic high school,

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brother Rice in Birmingham, Michigan. Eighteenth overall in nineteen eighty nine.

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Who went who went in front of him, and who

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went behind him? So he was drafted one pick after

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Sean Kemp and drafted one pick before Kenny Payne.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I don't think this is I don't. I

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don't unless you have like a help another clue.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to go with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's all there, right, it's all the informations there.

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Speaker 1: Jersey number he wore number ten and eleven were predominantly

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his numbers. He wore number two with the magic, but

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ten and eleven otherwise, three time.

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Speaker 2: Champion, three time champion. Well you got one, yeah, with

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the early bulls. I just, uh, who else is on

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those bulls teams? I just I got absolutely nothing. I

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just need to know now. I just I want you

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to prepare for how much, how frustrated I'm going to be,

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and how just the face palming pain of all this.

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Bj Armstrong, Jesus fucking Christ.

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Speaker 1: That's awful, what a gap by. There are two reasons

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I still do this. One I have bills to pay,

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and two to see the reactions in which you just

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absolutely loathe yourself. They are they are fuel for me.

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That was incredible.

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Speaker 2: I have I feel so much shame. I feel so

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much shame. Yeah, I remember the bj Armstrong era. Honestly

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I had I did not know he was an All star.

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I did not know that. I would never I saw he.

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Speaker 1: Led the Bulls in scoring, and it turns out he

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was h third in scoring, second in total scoring.

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Speaker 2: That I was like, what, I just yeah, I mean

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that is just It's like, I have no excuse, great, great,

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excellent player choice. I don't know why I think like

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I think. My short term memory is also just bleeding

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into I my just terrible mental blocks. Okay, we need

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to move on. Memory is pretty good, well only for

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dumb shit like Carlos Rogers NBA debut. How excited I

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was about it? All right, I have one for you,

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for Mattiel, and I want to double check that. I okay,

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I know who it is now, all right, I'm just

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gonna take a minute to come down from that.

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Speaker 1: B Jair.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong, just so bad, all right, all right, get

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I'm a professional. I'm a professional. I'm gonna get it together.

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Clue number one, Dan, I played college for Arason.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is honestly disallowed. Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know that's how everybody's gonna start the

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clues for you. Now you have to get the guests.

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Speaker 1: You didn't tell me what college they went to. You

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just in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I study played college for Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You said he went to college went to college in Arizona.

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Uh DeAndre, Good, guess he did go to Arizona.

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Speaker 2: That's James Harden. He went to Arizona State. Here good,

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right State? All right? Clue number two. I was drafted

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top ten by an Eastern Conference team in two thousand

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and five.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not going to get this one h two

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thousand and five, went to Arizona. I'm going to pretend

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like that matters to me. Ah, two thousand and five. No,

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he went to Georgetown. So yeah, I know some stuff.

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Shane Anderson, Shannon Anderson.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I love it. It's not Shannon Anderson. Why did

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that name come into your mind?

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Speaker 1: I honestly have no To be fair, these two were

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just kind of out there. Went to Arizona, got drafted

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in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a tough time period, I think.

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Uh So. Clue number three. I was selected to the

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five six all Rookie first team.

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, the rookies from that time two thousand

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and five, two thousand and six, that's is that like

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a black hole of NBA war feels like it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Richard Lewis. M not regard Lewis was drafted by a

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Western Conference team. He also definitely didn't go to Arizona.

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I think he didn't even go to college and go

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to college.

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Speaker 2: Okay, clue number four. In two thousand and seven, I

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was traded along with Steve Francis to a Western Conference

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team for Zach Randolph Fred Jones and Dan Dickow.

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Speaker 1: I was traded with Steve Francis. Can you read that? Back?

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, I was traded along with

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Steve Francis to a Western Conference team for Zach Randolph

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Fred Jones and Dan Dickou.

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Speaker 1: But he was drafted by an Eastern Conference team. He's

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still on this Eastern Conference team at the time. I'm

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trying to think. I think he must have been.

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Speaker 2: Yes, traded.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so he was traded. Read it one more time.

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He was traded you.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's O seven and he's traded with Steve Francis,

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who I think I'll just tell you is on this

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Eastern Conference team with with the mystery player. They go

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to a Western Conference team for Randolph, Fred Jones and

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Dan Dickow. Gosh, I don't know that that's that's hard

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because I don't remember and off playing for the team

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of that I'm thinking of m I think the next

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handful of clues will be more helpful.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, hit me, He went, Okay, I don't

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even have a good one here. Yeah hit me.

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Speaker 2: This is clue five and you have ten plus a bonus.

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In July two thousand and nine, I signed with Phoenix,

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and in twenty ten I signed a new five year,

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thirty million dollar contract with them with Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Signed with Phoenix five years, thirty million in two thousand

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and nine with Phoenix. Uh those Sons. So he's like

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there for seven seconds or less Suns thereabouts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh not.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be one of the main guys that

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who are on those teams. Now, you got to give

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me that clue. I got nothing, okay, Michael Finley, No,

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the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, clue number six. During my time with the Suns

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in twenty twelve, I learned I had an enlarged heart. However,

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I was clearly to play.

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Speaker 1: In twenty can't be Katino Mobile, is it? No?

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Speaker 2: It's not Katino mobiley damn it.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he have a heart. Chuck Hayes nope, okay, sorry,

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go ahead. I had a heart condition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and large heart diagnosed. I guess in twenty twelve.

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He was cleared to play again in twenty thirteen. I

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vaguely he's vaguely remember that. That's that's a deep cut

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clue number seven. In July twenty fourteen, I signed a

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four year, thirty two million dollar contract with Orlando.

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Speaker 1: Who keeps paying this guy? Well, I know who keeps

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paying him. Who is this guy that keeps getting paid?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty decent money for twenty four teens.

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Speaker 1: Still twenty fourteen, four years, thirty two million, My god,

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I don't have any how heart can I'm gonna hung

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up on that now because I feel like I know

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what based off the heart condition.

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Speaker 2: It's not the first thing I think of with this player.

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I think now we're getting more into what you might

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think of, or at least like I wouldn't have gotten

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him by now.

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Speaker 1: No way, hit me with the hit me with the

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next clue.

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Speaker 2: In February twenty sixteen, I was traded to Cleveland for

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Jared Cunningham and a future second rounder. I won an

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NBA Finals with the Cavs despite not playing in the

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last three games of the final series.

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Speaker 1: So this guy's a round for a while, won a

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title with Oh wait ah, is it Channing Frye?

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Speaker 2: It is Channing Frye. You gotta Joe.

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Speaker 1: I should have got I should have got that sooner

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two thousand and five, or that was a great that

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was another good gap. I should have got that one sooner.

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He was a nick, right, and then he yeah? And

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then I remember he was on this. I do remember

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the time with the songs. Oh man, I follow me

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on Twitter too. I should have known this.

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Speaker 2: So I was thrown because I was thinking that Steve

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Francis trade was coming from Orlando. But Francis was on

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the Knicks for a minute, right, I remembered that.

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Speaker 1: But then I was then in my head, I was like,

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was he there that early? I couldn't remember when the

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Steve Francis Steph Marberry disaster class.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, Zach Randolf never played for

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the Magic, but he did play for the Nick. Yeah, Okay,

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that I didn't I should have assumed. So basically, Mattie

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l is messing with us because he gave you a

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Nick and he gave me a Warrior.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you su yeah, But Can I tell you

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how hyped I was when they had Steph Marbury and

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Steve Francis just the name wreck. I thought, this is

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gonna be dope.

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Speaker 2: So fun when you don't know any better, you're just

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like that guy's good. Just a lot of fun to

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be that kind, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I started to really know when they got Tracy McGrady

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was the first time I loved T MAC. I was

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just like, this is all about Lebron. But I went

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to Trady c mcgrady's first game with the Knicks, and

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he hit like a shot that either pushed them to

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overtime or they won the game. And then I was like,

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we're going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I remember, like Jenny, with the rest of the crowded,

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I think, really, uh, we get along well because I

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was also just very much a Tracy McGrady guy. And

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during the uh when Paula was going for forty five

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or whatever it was, they were putting the graphic up

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of like Orlando Magic Playoff highs and they started showing

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highlights of like two thousand and three McGrady and I

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stopped and I grabbed my son. I was like, you

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need to watch this, you need to see what a

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true athlete looks like. And just oh three McGrady buddy,

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like that guy T mac was.

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Speaker 1: He was so fun to watch. I loved his shoes too,

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was another part of it. All right, grant your next

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guess a player. Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm still defeated, but I all soldier on next.

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Speaker 1: For this one, so you don't so don't fear you'll

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get it. Clue number one. I played college at Creighton

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and was named first team All MVC in my senior year.

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Kyle Korver incorrect, good guess, though I'd.

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Speaker 2: Like to win. I'd like to venture a second guest.

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Go ahead, Doug McDermott.

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Speaker 1: That is also incorrect.

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Speaker 2: I'm in big trouble.

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Speaker 1: Then those keep naming Caucasian shooters. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Those the only guys I know, all right.

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Speaker 1: Clue number two. I went undrafted in two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a long time ago, although I did guess,

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Kyle Korver. That feels about right for Kyle Korver.

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Speaker 1: Bro you don't get to claim it was a long

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time ago when you're out here talking about Carlos Rogers anecdotes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember the mid nineties a lot well you

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wouldn't know it from the bj R Armstrong debacle, which

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is how it's going to be referred to from now on.

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But I remember the mid nineties better than the mid

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two thousands. All right, uh, Creighton?

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Speaker 1: And then what was that went undrafted in two thousand

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and seven?

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Speaker 2: All right? Undrafted? Good good college player? Undrafted in seven

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out of Creighton. Okay, I don't think I have a guess.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Clue number three. Despite making the opening day roster

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for the Cleveland Cavaliers, I did not play my first

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NBA game until this November seventh, two thousand and eight,

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with the San Antonio Spurs. So undrafted in two thousand

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and seven, did not make his NBA debut until two

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thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: And it's for the Spurs. Create players eight Spurs. Who

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is on the Spurs in eight? That's pretty pretty prime?

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Duncan parkerdge nobly? Uh? Wait, I mean it could be?

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Is it Bruce Bowen? Did he go to Creyton?

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Speaker 1: That is incorrect?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Clue number four. After being waived by the Spurs in

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January twenty twenty nine. On January two thousand and nine,

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and playing both overseas and in the G League. I

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was signed by the Trailblazers in December two thousand and

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nine and only played two games.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have no creaton association, but he

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just came to mind.

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Speaker 1: Is Malik Rose incorrect? It's a good guess though, all right.

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Clue five. After signing a ten day contract in January

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twenty ten with the Warriors, Damn. I was then signed

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to a contract for the rest of the season by

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the Warriors in February.

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Speaker 2: We're in what eight or nine? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: January twenty ten?

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Speaker 2: Oh ten, okay, twenty ten. Creating player basically doesn't play

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at all for the Spurs or Blazers. Correct, he was

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Does it say he was traded to the Warriors or

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he signed with the Warriors?

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Speaker 1: He was waived? Uho. He signed with the Warriors ten

472
00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:52,000
day contract in January twenty ten.

473
00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: From crazy Hmmm, don't have it? Next clue clues Clue six.

474
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,559
Speaker 1: During my time with the Warriors, I scored a career

475
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200
high thirty four points in a game and average twelve

476
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,880
point three points per game overall.

477
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we still don't have a position. Thirty four and

478
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:25,599
twenty ten. Those are some awful, awful teams. Let's see

479
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:29,920
average twelve. That's pretty good. But then if somebody's got

480
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,640
a score on those teams, I still don't have it.

481
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,680
Next clue, please, clue seven.

482
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: During the season, I was second on the Warriors in

483
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:41,160
double doubles with twelve, equal to Steph, who also had

484
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,319
a triple double that season.

485
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,559
Speaker 2: I still don't know if that's points and rebounds, points

486
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:54,839
and assists. It's not the person you always associate with

487
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,920
early Steph is ac Law, but I don't think any

488
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,880
of the clues apply to him. I'll just say his name,

489
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,720
but I'm sure that's not who it is.

490
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,279
Speaker 1: That is correct.

491
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:12,599
Speaker 2: Double doubles from Creighton This is a hard one. Yeah,

492
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,519
you're telling me all right, Next clue please.

493
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:19,039
Speaker 1: Between twenty ten and twenty twenty one, I played for

494
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,000
the Timberwolves twice, Atlanta, Charlotte, Phoenix, the Pistons twice, the

495
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,880
Blazers twice, the Kings twice, Memphis and Philadelphia. Me has

496
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,839
been around the block so many teams.

497
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:42,039
Speaker 2: Huh, Creighton, I'm stuck on Creighton. That's probably although that's

498
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,480
a pretty I mean, nothing else is like really defining

499
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:45,440
this player so far.

500
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would have to the next one

501
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,799
would be the one that maybe you would get it on.

502
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it. Then what's the next one?

503
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:59,039
Speaker 1: Clue nine. My second go round with the Kings came

504
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,279
about due to a trade where the Kings received myself

505
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:06,480
and Kent Bazemore and two second round picks. Portland received

506
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,119
Trevor Ariza Wheny and Gabriel and Caleb Swanagan.

507
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: So, a former warrior goes, let's see, from Portland to

508
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,119
the Kings. Basemore goes from the Kings? Is that right?

509
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,599
Beasemore is not with him, He's going opposite this player.

510
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,279
Speaker 1: Baysmore plus this player and two second round picks went

511
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,319
to the Kings, and then Trevor, Reza, Gabriel and Swanagan

512
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,880
went to the Blaze of Portland.

513
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: Hmm do you so that that trade? You remember?

514
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: I remember the trade. I don't remember this player being

515
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,559
in it.

516
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: Okay, great. In my brain, the only thing that's there

517
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400
is just the word Creighton. I don't know why, I'm

518
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,559
so like, I feel like, why why do I think

519
00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:01,599
that's the giveaway of mainly because all we've got otherwise

520
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,319
are teams and twelve points per game.

521
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: This is honestly this I wouldn't have gotten this is

522
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:09,440
this is so hard.

523
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: Okay, how many more clues do I have?

524
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,079
Speaker 1: Just one? Oh boy?

525
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:14,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it. This might be I may

526
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,119
be over two.

527
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, I was signed to a ten

528
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:20,720
day via hardship exception by the New Orleans Pelicans, but

529
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,880
it was voided the next day due to a positive

530
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,119
COVID test. Trying to see if I could give you

531
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,160
any bonus clues here, So here's some bonus clues that

532
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,079
I know off rip about this player big man. Oh okay,

533
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,720
I was thinking mostly mostly a power forward. Did play

534
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:39,720
some three, but could scale out that like, did play

535
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,119
some also?

536
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:49,839
Speaker 2: Five boy, oh boy, oh boy? Thirty four? Uh, Quincy pondexter,

537
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,880
that is incorrect. Dante Cunningham another good guest. But no,

538
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:56,960
I don't know why I'm thinking of those guys.

539
00:29:59,599 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

540
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,559
Speaker 2: Let's see. So we've got like, well, the he he's

541
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,000
played for a thousand teams. So two stints you said

542
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,640
with Portland too, with the Kings to the Pistons, like

543
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,839
a front court player, but with somewhat malleable.

544
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:19,079
Speaker 1: I think, for some reason I most associate him with

545
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,359
the Pistons. I can't tell you why.

546
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, if if you say positionally, like what if

547
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,279
you had to pick one position that this guy in

548
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:39,440
power forward? Man, I don't think I'm not gonna get it.

549
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,880
I don't have it.

550
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,119
Speaker 1: It is. I wouldn't have gotten it either. It is

551
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:44,079
Anthony Tolliver.

552
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:55,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's really tough. That's that's not bj Armstrong.

553
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,680
I should have gotten Anthony Tolliver. I don't feel too

554
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,759
terrible about I think if Oliver, who's.

555
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,839
Speaker 1: The team you most remember? Okay, the timber Wolves say,

556
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,640
where's the team you most associate him with?

557
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean I remember the War like I remember, like

558
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240
this team is so bad that Anthony Tolliver plays a

559
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,400
lot and he's like shooting a lot of threes. I'm

560
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,160
sure that thirty four point game was was principally some threes. Yeah,

561
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,920
that's Jesus Christ. Okay, Hey, matty Ll is on fire

562
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,920
right right now? Let's see, Uh all right, I will

563
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,240
all right, I have one for you. You're gonna get it,

564
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,680
clue number one. Also for Mattiel. I did not play

565
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:35,160
number one.

566
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it.

567
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,319
Speaker 2: No, I did not play in college. So you're off

568
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:40,359
the hook there. You want to one shot kill it.

569
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:43,319
Speaker 1: I didn't play in college.

570
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: Darius Miles, good guess No, I was drafted top ten.

571
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,279
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant.

572
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: I was drafted top ten in twenty seventeen.

573
00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: God, I was drafted top ten in twenty seventeen. That's

574
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,359
the year? No, what's the end?

575
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: This?

576
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: What's the year? This isn't the guest, but what's the

577
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,440
Anthony Bennett draft? Was that twenty sixteen? Or is that

578
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,240
twenty seventeen?

579
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,119
Speaker 2: I think it's earlier than that. I want to say fourteen.

580
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,359
Oh well fuck, maybe that's Wiggins.

581
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: No, no, you're right two thousand seven. Drafted top ten

582
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,799
in twenty seventeen. Didn't go I should didn't go to

583
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,880
high school. But that could be because or college. Didn't

584
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,319
go to college, but that could be because they're an

585
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:44,160
international player. Poor thing is was twenty fifteen. Ah to

586
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:45,319
hit me next clue.

587
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,319
Speaker 2: I was the second youngest active player during my rookie

588
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:52,039
season behind ike Anigbogu. The name I don't remember.

589
00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:03,839
Speaker 1: Drafted top ten twenty seventeen. Super young man? Who is this?

590
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,200
That was almost a decade ago at this point too.

591
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:13,440
That's wild. Twenty seventeen top ten didn't go to college

592
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:16,200
don maker.

593
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,039
Speaker 2: No good guess. I was selected to Team World in

594
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,680
twenty eighteen for the Rising Stars Game at the All

595
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,319
Star Weekend. I not helpful.

596
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Not helpful at all international players that we know that.

597
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,440
I'm still hung up on international Top ten twenty seventeen.

598
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,279
They're not as maudy Unis.

599
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:46,519
Speaker 2: Nope. Nice guess went to college, didn't he? I don't know.

600
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:49,920
I think he's a little that's your I don't think

601
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,440
he was picked in the top ten. Clue, next clue.

602
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,160
I signed with the Dallas Mavericks in September twenty twenty one.

603
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,839
Speaker 1: They signed as a restricted free agent, or they were

604
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
just a free agent and weren't good draft in the

605
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:03,640
top ten?

606
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,359
Speaker 2: Signed we base real quick?

607
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: Yep, sorry there, okay, signed with Dallas in twenty twenty one.

608
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,480
That's still the row when the MAVs were trying to

609
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:17,559
win the free agency matter and the MAVs were just

610
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,199
trying to make moves. Didn't go to college international player?

611
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,880
Who is this? When were they drafted again?

612
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,079
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen top ten?

613
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't have it.

614
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,079
Speaker 2: Next clue, please, next clue, which is one, two, three, four,

615
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,599
five six. I signed with the Charlotte Hornets in August

616
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,960
twenty twenty three, and was waived in February of twenty four.

617
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:59,119
Speaker 1: Who is this person? Signed it with the Hornets in

618
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:05,880
twenty twenty three was waved by the Hornets. Yes, drafted

619
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,239
top ten. Oh my god, I'm gonna hate myself for

620
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,360
this one. Drafted top ten in twenty seventeen. You have

621
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,280
a face on.

622
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:20,039
Speaker 2: You will get it. Just the next clue. Probably, I

623
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,719
have no doubt you have two more clues. I have

624
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,599
no doubt in my mind.

625
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: That you I want to take like a stap. The

626
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,840
Mavericks one is now bothering me more than the drafted

627
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,599
in the top ten.

628
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: And twenty seven. You don't have the original team, which

629
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,679
is the which makes this hard um.

630
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: Drafted in twenty seventeen in the top ten. All right,

631
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:47,239
next clue, please.

632
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: Clue seven. I was born to Rwandan parents in Belgium,

633
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,159
but play for the French national team.

634
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: God damn it, it's a frank.

635
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what the eighth and final

636
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:11,760
clue was going to be? Shout out to me if

637
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,559
you've gotten the Knicks and you would have known immediately.

638
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,599
So well well played by Mattielle to not give you

639
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,760
Nick's top ten pick in. Oh man, he we do,

640
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239
though have a pattern, because you got two Nicks and

641
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,599
I got two Warriors, the difference being you went two

642
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:30,960
for two and I was zero for two. So you

643
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,320
are the guest of player champion at least until we

644
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,039
do this again.

645
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Well you have won more. Oh good, you're you're gonna

646
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,079
get I know you're gonna get this one.

647
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,519
Speaker 2: Thank you, No, thank you. I'm very shaken.

648
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Clue number one. My father was drafted by the Dallas

649
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Mavericks in the nineteen eighty five.

650
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Draft Andrew Wiggins.

651
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: That is incorrect. Clue number two. I played college for Texas.

652
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Uh played college for Texas. Father drafted in eighty five.

653
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: So we're like, played college in Texas, has a dad?

654
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:18,519
Speaker 2: Those are your clues in Texas or at Texas for Texas.

655
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm assuming that. I'm gonna assume that's

656
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:23,679
it is because I know I know this. I actually

657
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,559
probably wouldn't have gotten it by now, but this player

658
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,679
did play for Texas.

659
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 2: LaMarcus Aldridge.

660
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:36,559
Speaker 1: That is incorrect. Clue number three. I was drafted in

661
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:37,719
twenty seventeen.

662
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: Oh, we're way later than I thought. Texas twenty seventeen

663
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,440
how's a father has a father, has a father who

664
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:54,320
played in the NBA or was drafted? I mean that

665
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,599
should be that should get you pretty close. Twenty seventeen.

666
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,320
Another twenty seventeen draft d out of Texas or not out?

667
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,440
See I know this player did play for Texas. I

668
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,559
do not. It's way too late for TJ. Ford obviously,

669
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,840
not Kevin Durant, who else played for Texas?

670
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:18,559
Speaker 1: You got this?

671
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: I should have it.

672
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,159
Speaker 1: Now you're saying no, you're gonna get it. There's eight clues.

673
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,679
I think you're gonna get it on clue five.

674
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, let's have the next one then, please clue four.

675
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: I was the second youngest player ever to set foot

676
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,199
on the floor for my team. Another smart move by

677
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,559
him not giving you the original team.

678
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: Hmm, really young player out of Texas? Does do you associate?

679
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,760
You knew this player played at Texas?

680
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: You have all I would not have gotten it on

681
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,239
clue too. But had you said player X, what college

682
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,119
did he go to? I would have gotten that.

683
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,159
Speaker 2: I see correct? I see. Okay, So he's at least

684
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,840
it's not like a trick. He's at least like associated

685
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,599
with Texas somehow. Not a lot of Texas players come

686
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,440
in to mind, though really young but still went to college.

687
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:26,840
So do all right? Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't,

688
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,960
I don't. I'll take the next clue.

689
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:31,119
Speaker 1: Clue five, This is the this is this might be

690
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:32,559
the well, this isn't the one. You're gonna get it

691
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:34,559
on one of the other ones. But in twenty twenty one,

692
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,199
I was part of a fourteen trade that included James Harden.

693
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one. Mm hm, so that's probably rockets

694
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:57,440
to nets. Yeah, I'm not those never, Those are much

695
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,400
more Those types of clues are much more helpful for

696
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,840
you than from me. The murmuring the trade stuff, because

697
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,360
I don't know if it's four teams, I could even

698
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:14,199
be the sixers one for all. I don't know. Oh,

699
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:18,639
Ben Simmons, No, in LSU LSU holy shit.

700
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,159
Speaker 1: Also was not part of the James Hardened four team trade.

701
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Awful. I said it like it was right too.

702
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh well, you sounded like sixty percent sure, which.

703
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: Most sure I've been at any point in this exercise,

704
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which is not saying a lot.

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Speaker 1: You're you're gonna get it, So don't.

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Speaker 2: Have Can you keep saying that clue.

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Speaker 1: Number six and I was named the twenty twenty two

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All Star Game on Team Lebron. It's also I'll just

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add only All Star appearance this player has.

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Speaker 2: Why would I get it off of this?

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Speaker 1: I just said you're gonna get it. I didn't say

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this would be the clue. I also didn't think that

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you thought Ben Simmons went to Texas and was part

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of the four teams.

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Speaker 2: James Harden tells you how on tilt I am.

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Speaker 1: That eel's in between your ears?

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Speaker 2: It really is. I think I might just be getting

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worse at this too. That's a point.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done it in a while. We need to

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make sure that we're cycling back more than once a

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quarter to get some better.

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Speaker 2: Just keep the muscles exercised. All Star in twenty two

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from Texas with a father that was at least drafted by.

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Speaker 1: I keep assuming I did not know his dad was

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in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not when it's not closely associated twenty

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two All Star from Texas, I mean, twenty two is

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not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: It is not.

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Speaker 2: And he's in the hardened trade correct which we which

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I'm assuming is Houston to Brooklyn. Yeah, that seems right, hmm,

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but that's a four team trade, so it's not necessarily

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Houston or Brooklyn. Correct deal. Just keep fishing for this

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is bat Okay, I'll take another clue.

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Speaker 1: Okay, clue number seven of eight. On January twenty second,

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twenty twenty four, I set the franchise record for double doubles,

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placing me ahead of Andre Drummond and Elmore Smith.

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Speaker 2: So well, I mean that makes me think. You just

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it's a franchise record, not for anything.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, so this player sets a franchise record of some kind,

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being for double doubles, for double doubles. Okay, so that's Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Single season double doubles.

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Speaker 2: Just to clarify, Okay, so I assume that's Detroit. Uh

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Elmore Smith though I don't remember. I don't know who

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Elmore Smith was for. I mean, it could be a

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Bulls record. It could be was Drummond on the nets

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at some point. I think he was. Hard to say, though,

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Texas guy get a bunch of double doubles. This is

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so frustrating. Dan really in the league, really young big guy.

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I think I'm like, I'm defeated. I can't even think

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of somebody right now. Mattie Hill has broken me. Man,

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I just can't think, Oh wait, why would this guy?

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How does this guy set a record of that Andre

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Drummond had. That can't be right. I want to say

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Miles Turner. I think Miles Turner went to Texas, But

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like what that that That can't be right. He trade

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it's incorrect. Yeah, I'm just glad I thought I if

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Miles Turner didn't go to Texas, I'm gonna retire because

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that's the only reason I brought up them up.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of like big guys that

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would have been on an All Star team in twenty two. Drummond,

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this is.

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Speaker 1: The the double double thing is wrong? Oh okay, because

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I just looked it up, So I don't know what

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the fan unless I'm reading the clue wrong, said the

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franchise record for double doubles, placing me ahead of Andre

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Drummond and Elmore Smith. Yeah, that's not that's not right.

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This registers as the tie for the eighth most in

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franchise history.

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Speaker 2: M maybe it's a consecutive double doubles or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe when I saw that that was the

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one that stood out, You're gonna get it on the

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next clue. I'm trying to think if there's another one

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that So I'm gonna give you the teams that were

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involved in that James Harden trade. Okay, Pacers, Calves, nets,

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and Rockets. He has not played for another team since

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that trade. Oh, so he's still on the team he

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was traded to.

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Speaker 2: Is it Jared Allen?

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Speaker 1: It is Jared Allen, that is correct.

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Speaker 2: I swear to god, I would never have guessed he

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went to Texas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, do you want to know clue number eight

786
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was sure? Apologies to me. Yeah, I hope, I hope

787
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you would have gotten it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Texas. I mean I I know how you

789
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feel now where it's like, oh the college clue, thanks

790
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a lot, did not it did not help at all. Ugh, brutal.

791
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I'm glad I sort of kind of got one. I'm

792
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:53,320
glad he softballed me there. Well I needed your clue though, man, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, take us out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks everybody for listening. Thanks mostly to Mattiel for

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its entirely ruin Yeah, ruining my day, shaking my confidence, uh,

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making me tip from I'm a little suspicious to now

797
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I am convinced I have dementia.

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Speaker 1: I will say these were great gaps. But Anthony Tolliver,

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that was sick oh ship that I never would have

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gotten that one.

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Speaker 2: You know, we we all's dodgers.

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Speaker 1: That was also a sick shit good job by you.

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Speaker 2: We we like to think, you know, we're still at

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our best, and sometimes we get reminded that we're slipping.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And so that's that's the lesson I'm going to take

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away from today. Remember the rate Reviews. Subscribe if you

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want to submit gaps as diabolically good as the ones.

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Mattiel did join our discord. We got a sign up

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Tell your friends, tell your mies, shouts to guess a player,

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apology to Jared Allen. An apology to all of you