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<v Speaker 1>Clay Travis senden Bucks next to me. Epstein didn't kill himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a crazy town perspective. Today at

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<v Speaker 1>noon on fifty five KRC, the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Five o five at fifty five kr R see the

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<v Speaker 2>talk station Happy Friday says it was a vacation promise. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a confirmation. It's Friday. Thank you, Josetrekor Executive producer.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Brian Thomas, host of the fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>KRC Morning Show. Appreciate you tuning in this morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a wonderful day and a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some good plans going on. What is coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on the fifty five kr S Morning Ship, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Friday. I mean it's tech Friday. He's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at six thirty dek Friday with interest. It's Dave Hatter.

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<v Speaker 2>People are being committed with jet or chat, GPT psychosis. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all going to learn something new today on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Kroger scanning your ID when you buy alcohol. Why, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a new process at Kroger. Bought a twelve pack

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<v Speaker 2>of beer the other day and they well actually they've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it for a couple of weeks now scanning

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<v Speaker 2>your driver's license, which was kind of funny because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a liquor store inside of Kroger where we shop and

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<v Speaker 2>for it was at one time I made a liquor

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<v Speaker 2>purchase at the liquor store. They didn't card me, And

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<v Speaker 2>then when we got our groceries, we went up to

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<v Speaker 2>the front, and then I had the beer in the

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<v Speaker 2>cart and they card me for the beer and even

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<v Speaker 2>asked the question, wait a second, they didn't card anybody

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<v Speaker 2>in the liquor store. How come you're carding me at

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<v Speaker 2>the front. Apparently now they're carding the at the liquor

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<v Speaker 2>store as well. Why. I mean, you clearly are over

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<v Speaker 2>the age of twenty one. Seeing them card some people

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, my mom's age, it always seems so ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you can't take it out on the

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<v Speaker 2>person asking for the ID. It's like they didn't write

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<v Speaker 2>the rules, they just have to enforce them. I always

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was really dumb that the people under the

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<v Speaker 2>age of twenty one who are working the checkout aren't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to scan your liquor in either. They got to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the guy next door who's over the age

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty one to scan it. So okay, anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't make the rules, man, I just think them up

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<v Speaker 2>and write them down. And finally with Dave had he

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<v Speaker 2>don't connect artificial intelligence to your vending machine, Guy, Joe, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>disconnect your vending machine from artificial intelligence. Bring mccollan, our

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<v Speaker 2>energy expert, Charge Conversations. Bring mcowen's podcast, check that one

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<v Speaker 2>out from the Hudson Institute. He's going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>studio as he is inclined to do for a full

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<v Speaker 2>hour seven o five would bring him. We got lots

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<v Speaker 2>of different things to talk about him, including the revocation

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<v Speaker 2>of the alleged carbon dioxide emergency declaration. There, we got

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<v Speaker 2>a new sheriff in town with the Trump administration, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking away the whole notion that CO two has

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<v Speaker 2>any connection with That is, basically, it's not a pollutant,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's solid scientific evidence to confirm that. I can

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<v Speaker 2>dive on into that a little bit later to the program.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we stop regulating carbon dioxide, which is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>then you and I get a lot of control over

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<v Speaker 2>our lives back. Certainly, this global warming hysteria climate change

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<v Speaker 2>hysteria has provided a government a great mechanism to intrude

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<v Speaker 2>into literally every aspect of our day to day lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe maybe we see a refreshing, welcome change in

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<v Speaker 2>front of us here on that one. Bring them. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>certain we'll comment on that. Bill Sites on property Taxes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he is on the committee created by Governor de Wine

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<v Speaker 2>in the aftermath of the veto of the the tax provisions,

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<v Speaker 2>the property tax relief that was in the budget. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't have that line item them right out and here,

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<v Speaker 2>start a new plan, get a new working group together,

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<v Speaker 2>put Bill Sites in charge, and we'll see what they

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<v Speaker 2>come up with. In spite of the fact that a

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<v Speaker 2>year's worth of effort and work and looking into how

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<v Speaker 2>to get us property tax relief had already been done anyhow,

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<v Speaker 2>eight oh five for that one five, one, three, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>still making national news the city of Cincinnati, although not

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<v Speaker 2>on several different networks. There was a Fox News reporting

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<v Speaker 2>on this, and I thought it rather comical. Media Research

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<v Speaker 2>Councils NewsBusters took a look at ABC, CBS and NBC

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<v Speaker 2>and these various programs there ut are that they have

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<v Speaker 2>since the vile Cincinnati assault and found no coverage of

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<v Speaker 2>the event through yes or through Wednesday of this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing didn't even mention it, and it's noted and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have been made this this parallel, this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of analysis. If it was a group of white

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<v Speaker 2>people beating down a group of a couple of innocent

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<v Speaker 2>obviously without a mechanism or means to defend themselves black people,

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<v Speaker 2>this would have resulted in immediate riots in the street,

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<v Speaker 2>organized protests, condemnation protests from every single mayor and every

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<v Speaker 2>elected official across this great land of ours talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how vile and inexcusable this is. And that suggestion is

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<v Speaker 2>that that's the point, because it wasn't white on black crime,

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<v Speaker 2>that NBC, ABC and CBS didn't touch it with a

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<v Speaker 2>ten foot poll because the optics look bad, something several

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<v Speaker 2>of my black listeners have pointed out, Yes, it makes

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<v Speaker 2>my community look bad, and yeah, I mean people tend

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<v Speaker 2>to pay with a broad brush. So there you have it,

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<v Speaker 2>but still making national news. And of course Victoria Park's

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<v Speaker 2>a big lightning rod nationally because she said that those

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<v Speaker 2>poor people deserve the beatdown apparently sticking with her argument,

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<v Speaker 2>and let us analyze the failure and fallacy of Victoria

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<v Speaker 2>Parks analysis of her comment relative to the rights of

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<v Speaker 2>free speech. So those folks deserved a beatdown, that's basically

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<v Speaker 2>what she said. Now, can you extend the violence against

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<v Speaker 2>those people based upon anything that might have started the

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<v Speaker 2>original fight? And that's where she fails in her analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>In this country, she said, we have freedom of speech. However,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not run into a crowded theater and scream fire.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in a crowded theater and screamed fire. There

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<v Speaker 2>are unintended consequences, but that's what happened. I think she

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<v Speaker 2>is referring to is the guy that got the crap

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<v Speaker 2>beat out of him by the angry mob. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>been suggested that he's initiated the whole thing by me

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<v Speaker 2>be using the N word. I haven't heard any definitive

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<v Speaker 2>proof of that, but I do believe that some believe

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it got started. I know there was a slap.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether that slap was the first physical connection between the

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<v Speaker 2>two that the fight started between, or maybe he got

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<v Speaker 2>hit prior to the slap, don't know, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>two people obviously engage in a bit of a controversy

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<v Speaker 2>which exploded. Park said, it's a metaphor. Regarding the analogy

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<v Speaker 2>in a crowded theater, I'm just going to let people

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<v Speaker 2>draw their own conclusion. That's my statement, obviously not retracting

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<v Speaker 2>her idea they deserve to beat down. Now started from

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<v Speaker 2>the proposition you can't screen fire in a crowded room.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that analogy used? It's from a Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>case from a long time ago. Fine. The reason is

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<v Speaker 2>because there may be not an opportunity for others to

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<v Speaker 2>step up and say no, there is no fire. You

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<v Speaker 2>get an immediate reaction from a crowd that might result

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<v Speaker 2>in chaos, with folks stampeding for the door, which could

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<v Speaker 2>result in harm or injury. Unintended. It may be, But

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<v Speaker 2>if someone were to screen fire in a crowded room

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<v Speaker 2>and you reached over and hauled off and punched the

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<v Speaker 2>living crap out of the person right next to you,

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<v Speaker 2>a it doesn't excuse the person who lied and said

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<v Speaker 2>there's fire here, causing perhaps a panic, but you would

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<v Speaker 2>be prosecuted for battery and assault for punching the person

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<v Speaker 2>next to you merely because someone utters a word that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe isn't protected speech does not give you the legal

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<v Speaker 2>right to start committing violence and crimes of your own,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exactly what happened. So maybe the guy did

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<v Speaker 2>say something bad untoward, Maybe he deserved to get punched

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<v Speaker 2>by the guy he was talking to. Let those two

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<v Speaker 2>work it out between themselves. That doesn't allow a crowd

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<v Speaker 2>of people to start committing independent crimes of their own

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<v Speaker 2>merely because someone said something offensive. Does not give you

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<v Speaker 2>the right to break the law and hurt other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And she fails the factor into this. They deserved a

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<v Speaker 2>beat down was her original comment, which drew controversy because

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<v Speaker 2>while you can maybe make an argument the guy deserved

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<v Speaker 2>it because of something he said, which I'm sitting here

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<v Speaker 2>telling you, no, you can't. But one of the poor

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<v Speaker 2>woman who seemed to be merely rendering aid and got

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<v Speaker 2>smacked cole cocked in the face with a closed fist punch,

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<v Speaker 2>resulting in substantial injuries, did she deserve that beat down?

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria Parks, was she involved in the initial confrontation between

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<v Speaker 2>the two guys where this thing sort of seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>have started, seemed to have I think the answer is

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<v Speaker 2>quite clearly no. This is embarrassing, she's embarrassing, well, most notably,

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<v Speaker 2>she's embarrassment to herself. This is an elected official in

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Cincinnati, you know. I mean I always

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<v Speaker 2>laugh at the guy, the representative that thought Guam was

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<v Speaker 2>going to capsize, he would put more buildings on it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And how embarrassing is that. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just reflective of just an absolute ignorance of so many

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<v Speaker 2>different things. And you know, it's like, there's that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's from that state. Thank god, he's not one of ours.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't elect idiots like that. Well, sorry, Cincinnati, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't say that. And we have an illustration of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen in downtown Cincinnati real time, something that

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Herringer's talked about yesterday on the fifty five KARS

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Show. She no no longer lives in Over the Rhine.

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<v Speaker 2>Their business had been broken into before her husband got

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<v Speaker 2>murdered in their home. She had mentioned yesterday She's in

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<v Speaker 2>studio for an hour talking about the ordeal in downtown Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>looking for ways to better this, come up with solutions,

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<v Speaker 2>bring more information to people's attention, asking for follow up

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<v Speaker 2>on all these non governmental organizations that are getting your

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer dollars in the city who are supposed to go

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world and come up with solutions. Does

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<v Speaker 2>anybody follow up on that and report on whether that

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<v Speaker 2>NGO or that outside organization actually has made any progress.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer apparently is no, because she's looked for it,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no follow up. But what she did live

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<v Speaker 2>and her late husband lived in real time was the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they had they were victims of break ins burglaries,

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<v Speaker 2>arson And there's only so much you can put up

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<v Speaker 2>with when you're a business owner in downtown CINCINNTI or

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<v Speaker 2>a resident, I might add. She mentioned a bar that

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<v Speaker 2>closed because it had been broken into so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. I mean, the profit margins aren't big anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know you just like at one point say sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I can't put up with this anymore. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we got another business you can add to the list

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<v Speaker 2>of folks who've already made that decision. Talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. I got Todd on the phone top. If

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<v Speaker 2>You can feel free to call. But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the aftermath of the brawl and the beatdown, UH

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<v Speaker 2>had these observations, What I care about us is not

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<v Speaker 2>in the other places where city government has pushed public

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<v Speaker 2>safety way down on the priority list. Perception is critical.

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<v Speaker 2>Perception drives decisions on events, which brings tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of visitors annually from the suburbs and hundreds of miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>Perception helps drive a company's decision to relocate, which can

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<v Speaker 2>draw employees from around the globe. Perception drives population growth,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wrote, I feel more horror incidents will erode

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<v Speaker 2>perception a point where events and companies and visitors and

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<v Speaker 2>prospective residents decide to stay away. What if that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Not trying to be an alarmist, but it's something any

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<v Speaker 2>this is a problem that's been building. As we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about yesterday with Sarah Herringer, our numbers have been down

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<v Speaker 2>to this insin police force and aren't enough officers to

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<v Speaker 2>fill the ranks that have been down for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>City government failed to get ahead of the matter by

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<v Speaker 2>all at least with the perception of safety. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>again Sarah Herringer yesterday talking about the violence that she,

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<v Speaker 2>her husband, the residents of over the Ryan experience on

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<v Speaker 2>a regular basis. Here's a real life illustration of what

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<v Speaker 2>happens when you don't take care of law enforcement. We

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<v Speaker 2>got a logistics firm near downtown Cincinnati now relocating to

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Ash after well the violence in and around the

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<v Speaker 2>city over the recent weeks since I inquire Randy Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>reporting that Victor Lewis, founder and CEO of One Logistics Network,

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<v Speaker 2>set in an interview with The Inquire that the July

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth incident was in d day factor. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>last straw in his decision to move the logistic company

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<v Speaker 2>out of downtown Cincinnati and over to apparently the more

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<v Speaker 2>safe Blue Ash community. He said he'd been contemplating this

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<v Speaker 2>move for months, just signed a lease for new office

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<v Speaker 2>spase near Summit Park and Blue Ash. We're out, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing is going to change until businesses start drawing a

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<v Speaker 2>line and saying no more, this ain't happening. July twenty

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<v Speaker 2>sixth incident reaffirmed his decision to relocate. Also, he cited

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<v Speaker 2>previous incidents, including the July fifth shooting at the Banks

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<v Speaker 2>of the guy near Third and Broadway Streets in downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>He also wrote an open letter to city officials criticizing

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<v Speaker 2>what he described as quote a decline in the liveability

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<v Speaker 2>and professionalism of the downtown area, which he wrote quotes

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<v Speaker 2>stem from a failure in leadership and a lack of

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<v Speaker 2>effective city management. He said, I understand the are complex

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<v Speaker 2>issues at play, But I have employees who are freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>This just isn't a place where we feel safe doing business.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently he's going to continue operating from his Queen's Gate

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<v Speaker 2>headquarters for the next several months, but he is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fast track the company's move quote. Cincinnati needs leadership

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<v Speaker 2>that is ready to refocus on the foundational responsibilities that

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<v Speaker 2>once made this city thrive. And until that happens, I

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<v Speaker 2>will be relocating my business along with the jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>investment and brings to a more supportive environment. Well there's that,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. And do you think he's the only individual

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<v Speaker 2>who is thinking along these lines. Sarah suggests that people

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<v Speaker 2>are moving out of Over the Rhine. I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of curious what property values has been impacted by this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can do is zilo search

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<v Speaker 2>and find what the current valuation is for any given

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<v Speaker 2>urban hipster rehabbed apartment building that they were spent so

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<v Speaker 2>many years trying to create and develop and almost very

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<v Speaker 2>successfully so, only to be undermined by the deterioration of

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<v Speaker 2>the conditions in the city of Cincinnati. Over the Rhine

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<v Speaker 2>a hotbed of criminal activity. One of the areas that's

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<v Speaker 2>reported a substantial increase in criminal activity. If you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously not, something's going to steer you in the direction

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<v Speaker 2>of pulling the trigger and saying, Yep, I want the

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<v Speaker 2>living walking community. I want to be able to walk here,

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<v Speaker 2>walk there, take the street car to my job. All

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<v Speaker 2>sounds wonderful until you realize you got to be out

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, in and among people who might want

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<v Speaker 2>to just give you a beat down for no reason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a sad state of affairs. Hate to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those folks that dearly loves the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Cincinnati. I've commented many times over the years, how

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<v Speaker 2>much better the quality of life my wife and I

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<v Speaker 2>have having moved back from Chicago to Cincinnati coming up

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<v Speaker 2>I guess thirty years now, and I never regret that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>But am I more inclined to go downtown and participate

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<v Speaker 2>see a concert again, or maybe go to one of

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<v Speaker 2>the wonderful downtown Cincinnati restaurants? Uh huh. I'm usually not

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<v Speaker 2>that guy who's I hate city. Since I used to

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<v Speaker 2>on the Show with the Cops show every Friday, and

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<v Speaker 2>which is, if you're not involved in drug activity or

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<v Speaker 2>friend Maureene already happening. We've already had one person canceling

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<v Speaker 2>their trip to my daughter's wedding after hearing about quote

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<v Speaker 2>how dangerous our city is. How many stories out there

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<v Speaker 2>mirror those of Maren's Tom, Welcome to the show, Happy Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning. And I get the first I heard of

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<v Speaker 4>your your daughter's getting married, So I gets congratulations.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Next June, next next June.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's almost a year away. And and and that means

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<v Speaker 4>you know what's coming, uh, not too long after that,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a couple of years would be grand kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take them. I'd love to have a grandchild.

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<v Speaker 4>They are they are. The grandkids are great. It's their

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we're babysitters of the grand puppy almost on

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<v Speaker 2>anytime Dahlia isn't dropped off to be babysad, my dark

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<v Speaker 4>You just you just stuck your arm out, pointed, well, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What my wife had just walked into the room. She

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, just yeah. My daughter brought our grandpap over.

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<v Speaker 2>So some day, hopefully, hopefully I listened.

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<v Speaker 4>I listened to your uh, your interview with Sarah Herringer. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday I got to get on the podcast to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to him. Wow, that's some that's some powerful stuff. I

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<v Speaker 4>know that's not the first time you've talked to her,

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<v Speaker 4>but uh, that's the first time I've been able to

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<v Speaker 4>sit and listen to a whole thing and and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>incredible story and uh and hoping that that the shining

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<v Speaker 4>the light on this, uh, this particular incident, and then

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<v Speaker 4>her continuing on and her her quest to get some

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<v Speaker 4>changes made does something. Uh, And there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>a deterreenty downtown and really anywhere in your family, on

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<v Speaker 4>has to be something in place where where people who

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<v Speaker 4>are who are prone to commit crimes go. Maybe I'd

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<v Speaker 4>better not do that. That's that's because I'm not I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to go to that. There's gotta be something

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<v Speaker 4>like that. And clearly there has been a push over

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<v Speaker 4>the last tower many years to get rid of the deterrent,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I absolutely believe that the the other thing that stood

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<v Speaker 4>out that she said is that you're dealing with people

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<v Speaker 4>know what, hey, let's get together and let's go beat

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<v Speaker 4>just that's crazy. Just to think that that's a thing

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<v Speaker 4>to do. I mean, that's that's not even adolescent childish.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just flat out evil. And you know, let's break

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<v Speaker 4>want their stuff, I'm gonna take it. And and and

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<v Speaker 4>part of the reason why that is allowed to happen

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<v Speaker 4>is because you have people like that being that councilwoman,

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<v Speaker 4>same crap, like that, excuse me, woman, that's just flat

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<v Speaker 4>out wrong what you're saying that there is no excuse

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<v Speaker 4>for that kind of behavior. And when when you have

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<v Speaker 4>people who stand up to are allegedly city leaders who

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<v Speaker 4>stand up and say something like that, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>think the criminals, Oh, well, she's right, maybe we ought

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<v Speaker 4>to just stop doing it. Now they feel even even

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<v Speaker 4>more embolded. So we're we're electing people who allow this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of behavior, and and in fact, they incentivize it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it, and that's we got to stop doing that people.

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<v Speaker 4>We have got to stop electing people. And unfortunately, there

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<v Speaker 4>is a political party that embraces this kind of behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>It allows for it allows it to festor and makes

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<v Speaker 4>I have a great weekend, Broan.

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<v Speaker 2>You do the same. I was really impressed by Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>Herringer's ability to just stay away from politics. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what her politics. Are, very reluctant to criticize

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<v Speaker 2>any particular single person or political party. But really, you mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when you step back from what we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>together yesterday, the lack of law enforcement, the lack of

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<v Speaker 2>police presence, the insufficient numbers of officers that are even

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<v Speaker 2>police officers, perhaps the failure of elected officials to engage

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<v Speaker 2>in appropriate allocation of these scarce resources, and one merely

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<v Speaker 2>steps back and well, who's making these decisions, who's responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for the selection of the police chief? And the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't have anybody to point to but Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an all one percent Democrat administration in the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Cincinnti's been dominated by and contro rold by Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>now for a long long time. So to the extent

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to point a finger at a political party

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<v Speaker 2>or some group of individuals. You've got a long history

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<v Speaker 2>of Democrats having controlled the city of Cincinnati, so I

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<v Speaker 2>got to conclude that maybe it is in balls in

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<v Speaker 2>their court. Five thirty five. Right now, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>cur City Talk station, Bobby, hang on if you have

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<v Speaker 2>to take your call, got a stack of stupid as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Your phone calls are priority over stack of stupid. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>go either way, but we'll start with Bobby right when

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<v Speaker 2>we get back.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, if you're listening to Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Jena nine first one Wether forecasts, it's like the nicest

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<v Speaker 2>forecast I've faced for several weeks. Now, beautiful day today

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<v Speaker 2>with sunny skies, little to no humidity and a high

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<v Speaker 2>of eighty degrees. Overnight lowes sixty one with clear skies

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one and sunny skies tomorrow overnight just a few

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<v Speaker 2>clouds and a pleasant sixty degrees mostly sunny Sunday high

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<v Speaker 2>of eighty three sixty three degrees. Right now, let's hear

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<v Speaker 2>about traffic conditions. First, out of the gate, Jock.

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<v Speaker 8>From the UCU Traffic Center. You see health Way Boss

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<v Speaker 8>called five month three nine nine two two sixty three.

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<v Speaker 8>That's nine three nine twenty two sixty three. Highway traffic

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<v Speaker 8>in glory shape. Start off your Friday morning. No accidents

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<v Speaker 8>to deal with, not seeing anything close to a delay

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<v Speaker 8>northbound seventy five or inbound seventy four. Juck Ingram on

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<v Speaker 8>fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 9>Can you play John the Fisherman's Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend Jeffrey is happy about that. I was gett

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<v Speaker 2>an instant message from him, looking forward to this time

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<v Speaker 2>of the day. He liked Joe a private stand.

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<v Speaker 10>Why the phone number five three seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight two three Tako Ton five fifty on eighteen to

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<v Speaker 2>T phone. Do you want to chime in on a

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<v Speaker 2>topic I'm talking about this morning or another one? Feel free?

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby is on the phone. Bobby, thanks for holding in.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome back my friend, Thank you, my brother, and happy

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<v Speaker 11>Friday to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back at you Love my Friday.

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<v Speaker 11>We have a great Spanish influenced community around Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 11>I was out shopping yesterday and found something. It was

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<v Speaker 11>really nice. But they do custom pinatas Victoria Parks pinata.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm just wondering where to hang three or four of

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<v Speaker 11>the MAT's fountain square down by the city Hall.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that stepping over the line? Yes?

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<v Speaker 12>That just comical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because Victoria Parks is a black woman, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you use the word in context with anyone of any

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<v Speaker 2>black person, then you're going to be accused immediately of racism.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's steer clear of that concept. Bobby, What could

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<v Speaker 2>I do with the piata?

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<v Speaker 12>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, enjoying a chair or something, lay it down and

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<v Speaker 2>beat the crap out of it if you want. But

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<v Speaker 2>I still say you're going to subject yourself to perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>accusations of racism, even though your abuse of a pinata

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<v Speaker 2>in the form of the Victoria Parks model has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the color of her skin, has everything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with her insane comments suggesting that those poor

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<v Speaker 2>people deserved a beating. Or maybe you just want the

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<v Speaker 2>candy inside, as Joe observed. Either way, understand where you're

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<v Speaker 2>coming from. Your anger and frustration is duly noted. Bobby, Faith, family, flag,

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<v Speaker 2>and freedom. Take care of my friend of a great weekend. Hey, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to the Stacker. Stupid Let's start off with

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<v Speaker 2>a naked person because it is Friday, Stacker stupid, and

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<v Speaker 2>why not. We'll putting aside the female tea. Every week,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe's pulling out articles for the stack of stupid involving

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<v Speaker 2>female quite often very active female teachers who find the

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<v Speaker 2>need to have sex with young children. God, the world

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<v Speaker 2>has just flipped upside down. But we'll move over to

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<v Speaker 2>the naked guy first found naked inside amen Naked inside

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<v Speaker 2>the Minnesota State Capitol Friday night, a man had used

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<v Speaker 2>a wooden wedge to prop a door open in order

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<v Speaker 2>to gain access after hours. According to charging documents. The

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<v Speaker 2>records show that Dominic Terrell Peace, thirty six years old,

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<v Speaker 2>charge of one kind of second degree burglar and connection

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<v Speaker 2>with the trespassing arrests, also wanted to Wisconsin for violating

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<v Speaker 2>terms of his probation, and a warrant was filed for

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<v Speaker 2>his extradition.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the criminal complaint filed earlier this week in

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<v Speaker 2>Ramsey County and Minnesota Capital Security notified of Minnesota State

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<v Speaker 2>patroled by eleven fifteen pm about an emotionally disturbed person

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<v Speaker 2>naked inside the Senate chambers throughout his encounter with the

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<v Speaker 2>security guard. In the state troopers, Peace made various claims,

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<v Speaker 2>including that he was the governor and that the capital

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<v Speaker 2>was in fact his house. Told a state trooper that

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<v Speaker 2>he sleeps naked in his own house, I guess. Addressing

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<v Speaker 2>the issue of why he was naked inside the capitol,

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<v Speaker 2>investigators found a set of clothes in a woman's bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>standing water on the floors on the floor, suggesting he

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<v Speaker 2>may have taken a bath there. Review of the surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>footage show piece gone inside the building around two pm Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>open to the public at the time, used a wedge

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<v Speaker 2>to prop an exterior mechanical room door. Returned at quarter

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<v Speaker 2>to ten in the evening, entered the building and went

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<v Speaker 2>inside the women's bathroom for about forty minutes before going

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<v Speaker 2>up to the second floor. State patrol said Peace was

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<v Speaker 2>taking a regional hospital for mental health evaluation and then

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<v Speaker 2>was released. After the first encounter. He reappeared in the

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<v Speaker 2>capitol grounds two more times, on Saturday seven thirty am

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<v Speaker 2>and then again at seven thirty pm, with another trip

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<v Speaker 2>to regions in between. He was arrested upon the third encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>All the while Peace had this arrest warret in Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 2>for falling to show up in court. That warrant authorized

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement in adjoining states to arrest Peace, but when

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<v Speaker 2>officers first searched him in the system, the warrant read

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<v Speaker 2>no extradition in state pickup only. Since that warrant wassitioned

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<v Speaker 2>in February, Local Law News found that Peace had been

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<v Speaker 2>cited by police at least five times for minor offenses,

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<v Speaker 2>including an arrest last week at a target in Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Paul for reported theft. Police said Wisconsin, Warren appeared as

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<v Speaker 2>non extraditable when they arrested him on July twenty second.

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<v Speaker 2>He also has pending competency evaluation on a felony matter

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle theft case in Ramsey County. He scheduled reappear in

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<v Speaker 2>court and being held out a twenty five thousand dollars bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Still not as crazy as Governor Waltz, Joe, is that?

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<v Speaker 13>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I suppose you're right. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Waltz immediately popped in your mind, but I suppose

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<v Speaker 2>the word crazy might necessarily move immediately to a thought

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<v Speaker 2>of Governor walt since he is demonstrably crazy. I know

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<v Speaker 2>he's the governor of Minnesota. Five fifty five. Don't go

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<v Speaker 2>away more stupid or phone calls. Either way you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go, be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio Station.

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<v Speaker 14>We are.

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<v Speaker 2>Five forty nine to give out pair SEP Fox Station Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of a Dave Hatter first topic chat GPT psychosis

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<v Speaker 2>when she says some people are being committed following a

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosis for chat GPT psychosis and see what that's all

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<v Speaker 2>about coming up with Dave Hatter. Anyway, back over to

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<v Speaker 2>the stack of stupid and naked guy. A's this tradition

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<v Speaker 2>and we go to Hong Kong for this One forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine year old man found dead inside a residential unit

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<v Speaker 2>with his nude body surrounded by sex toys. Police got

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<v Speaker 2>a report about three am from a security guard at

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<v Speaker 2>the Wing Fat mansion. He had noticed that the door

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<v Speaker 2>of the unit was left for jess during his patrol,

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<v Speaker 2>noted a strange odor emanating from the flat. Officers discovered

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<v Speaker 2>a man surnamed Choo, lying naked on the bed with

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<v Speaker 2>blood around his nostrils. Pronounced dead at the scene, Mortuary

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<v Speaker 2>workers removed the man's body the following day from the unit.

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<v Speaker 2>Pulmonary autopsy results showed no obvious bruises on the man. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>police sees multiple pieces of evidence from the premises, including

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<v Speaker 2>sex toys and lubricants packaged in transparent plastic bags that

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<v Speaker 2>filled an entire box. No doubt, case has been classified

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<v Speaker 2>as a discovery of a dead body under investigation by

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<v Speaker 2>the Yao Sim District Crime Squad. Does it make you

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<v Speaker 2>curious about the cause of death, Joe, You're not going there,

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<v Speaker 2>huh Okay. Apprentice, Mississippi, where authorities arrested a Boonville man

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<v Speaker 2>following a public nudity incident at Fossil Park in Frankstown,

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<v Speaker 2>which also led to drug charges. Court to Apprentice County

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's department to call about a naked guy at a

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<v Speaker 2>park in the morning of July twenty fifth, prompted a

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<v Speaker 2>response from Sheriff Randy Toller. He arrested fifty seven year

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<v Speaker 2>old Donald Ritchie Hatfield on charges of indecent exposure. In

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<v Speaker 2>search of his vehicle by Sheriff Tolar and Deputy Colby

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<v Speaker 2>Knight revealed a felony amount of hydra codon and a

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<v Speaker 2>small quantity of math amphetamine. According to charges, may follow

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<v Speaker 2>a pending results of the crime lab analysis. Hatfield appear

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<v Speaker 2>before Justice Roy Hall set has bought at five grand

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Corrections also placed a hold on him. North

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi Narcotics Agent's Grady Smith expected to present a case

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<v Speaker 2>to the grand jury for further consideration. Drugs are bad

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<v Speaker 2>and what is it with female teachers molesting young people?

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<v Speaker 2>Former Saint James High School special education teacher accused of

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<v Speaker 2>several sex crimes against a student, plead guilty the lester charges.

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty third, last year, prosecutors charged Ricky Lynn Waughlin

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<v Speaker 2>with felony count's possession of child porn, tamper or attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to tamper with a victim, and a felony prosecution statutory

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<v Speaker 2>rape second degree, sexual exploitation of a minor, tampering with

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<v Speaker 2>physical evidence, and a felony prosecution furnacing pornographic material to

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<v Speaker 2>a minor, and sexual trafficking of a child second degree

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<v Speaker 2>under the age of eighteen. Pleaded guilty to endangering the

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<v Speaker 2>welfare of a child and creating substantial risk first degree

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<v Speaker 2>first defense no sexual conduct that was her plea agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty fourth of this month, got five years probation. Investigation

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<v Speaker 2>said she had been sending pornographic videos of herself to

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<v Speaker 2>a sixteen year old student. bestI Gadda said the boy

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<v Speaker 2>who told him Laughlin had been sending him nude photos

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<v Speaker 2>on Snapchat, and it also tried to pressure him into

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<v Speaker 2>having sex, you know. And again I turned to the

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<v Speaker 2>mugshot photograph. I mean, she's just a seemingly very attractive

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<v Speaker 2>young woman. What is with it? Idiots doing idiot things

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<v Speaker 2>because they're idiots. Yeah, and welcome to the world again,

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<v Speaker 2>to social media. I love pointing this out. It's out

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<v Speaker 2>there in the ether. You created it, someone's gonna find

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<v Speaker 2>it or see it, or as in the case with

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<v Speaker 2>this one and so many other cases, the person you

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<v Speaker 2>are molesting or trying to molest under the age of eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>not consenting adult. It's gonna tell somebody you're out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're out there. What somebody in my listening

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<v Speaker 2>audience is doing this or thinking about doing this? Heed

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<v Speaker 2>my words? Idiots, you moron, And we go to uh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see here dayline Louisville, Kentucky. But it's a former

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Indiana high school counselor been sentenced for having sexual

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<v Speaker 2>relationships as with a student. Brittany Eisner pleaded guilty to

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<v Speaker 2>child seduction and contributing the delinquency of a minor Early

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<v Speaker 2>on the month. Court document show the former Floyd Central

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<v Speaker 2>High School counselor had sexual contact with a students several

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<v Speaker 2>times and gave the student alcohol as well as vaping products.

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<v Speaker 2>Fired October last year for neglect of duty and immorality

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<v Speaker 2>after an invest district investigation found her, in their words,

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<v Speaker 2>unfit to supervise students. During the sentencing hearing Circuit court Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>Eisner ordered to serve two years in the Indiana Apartment

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<v Speaker 2>of Corrections for two counts of child seduction sentences running Concurrently,

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<v Speaker 2>she received a one year suspended sentence upon strict terms

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<v Speaker 2>of probation for contributing the delinquency of a minor. Also

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<v Speaker 2>ordered to have no contact with a victim and has

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<v Speaker 2>to register as a sex offender. Beyond that, court records

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<v Speaker 2>indicates she is still facing child seduction charges in Floyd County.

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd County. Why the world's filled with lonely people, and

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<v Speaker 2>filled with lonely people who are adults. Find one of

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<v Speaker 2>those and have sex with the adult who is capable

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<v Speaker 2>of consent. That is the law. You know. Five fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five fifty five k se DE talk station. More to talk,

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<v Speaker 2>More to talk about after the top of the hour,

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<v Speaker 2>News and of course tech, Fred mcdave Hatter, Breagha mcgawan

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<v Speaker 2>Back in studio, our Energy Expert Charged Conversations. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>Steerian direction in his podcast Charge Conversation. He's brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>He's with the Hudson Institute as well as he's a

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<v Speaker 2>professor at Miami University. Back in studio at seven oh five,

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<v Speaker 2>and Bill sites on the committee to try to give

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<v Speaker 2>us some property tax release. He'll be on the program

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<v Speaker 2>at eighth five. I'll be right back after.

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<v Speaker 1>The Today's top stories at the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 3>It's information that matters to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Six o five at fifty five kr CD talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Friday, Ryan Thomas Enior inviting phone calls. We have

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<v Speaker 2>something you'd like to comment on. Five hund three seven

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<v Speaker 2>One hour from now. Brigha mccow and he'll be in

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<v Speaker 2>studio our energy expert charged conversations his podcast with the

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Institute and also professor at Miami University at Oxford

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<v Speaker 2>were talking energy policy. Presumably that's his area of expertise.

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<v Speaker 2>Got some interesting developments coming out of the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 2>on that rolling back the declaration that CO two is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a pollutant. Yeah, wouldn't that be a wonderful thing

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<v Speaker 2>for freedom and choice and everything else in America. They

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<v Speaker 2>are micromanaging our lives on the back of this climate alarmism,

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<v Speaker 2>and this would be an awesome opportunity to roll back

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<v Speaker 2>some of that micromanagement. So, uh, we'll address that subject

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<v Speaker 2>matter coming up in an Now, of course, it's Friday

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bottom of this Hour Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.

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<v Speaker 2>People apparently are being committed what to mental institutions. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>it's a thing called chat GPT psychosis. Okay, Kroger is

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<v Speaker 2>scanning your IDs when you buy alcohol? Now why, he

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<v Speaker 2>asks question Mark, We'll find out. And finally, don't connect

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence to your vending machine if you have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring McCallen again. In studio seven to five. Bill Sitz

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<v Speaker 2>joins a program at eight oh five. He is on

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<v Speaker 2>that Property Tax Board, the committee set up by Governor

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<v Speaker 2>de Wine to try to figure out ways to provide

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<v Speaker 2>us with property tax relief, and I still scratched my

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<v Speaker 2>head over that, since all the work was done last

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<v Speaker 2>year leading up to the bill and the budget bill

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<v Speaker 2>it had some provisions in it for property tax relief,

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<v Speaker 2>which the governor vetoed and then created this separate committee

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<v Speaker 2>with Bill Sites heading it up Bill AT eighth five

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<v Speaker 2>of housekeeping matters here last week. Earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 2>rather Levek Ramaswami, our next Governor, dve Ake, announced that

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to have a town hall with former

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinni Vice Mayor Christopher Smithman fan of the show You're

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<v Speaker 2>out there, Christopher, good morning, my friend. Always love having

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<v Speaker 2>you on the show every week on Mondays. For the

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<v Speaker 2>smith event, he'll be part of this discussion Ramaswami's post.

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<v Speaker 2>We plan to invite city officials, community leaders, and any

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<v Speaker 2>of the victims from the assault who wish to participate.

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<v Speaker 2>When people feel afraid to speak their minds, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>frustration festers and we can't let that happen. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>date and the time is set. It's Monday, August fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>This coming Monday, five thirty pm at Christopher Smithman's favorite spot,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and Jackson the River. So we got Leeveke Ramaswami

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<v Speaker 2>and Christopher Smithman and you if you choose to be

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<v Speaker 2>there for the purpose of addressing crime concerns, most notably

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<v Speaker 2>after the craziness that happened early Saturday morning. So five

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty Monday, Jim and Jackson the River, and good

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<v Speaker 2>morning the folks at Jim and Jacks You've had listener

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<v Speaker 2>lunch there quite a few times. They enjoy our company,

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<v Speaker 2>We enjoy their service and their food and their hospitality.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get back to Jim and Jackson. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be doing that in October. October's listener lunch at

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and Jackson the River. We try to have that

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<v Speaker 2>at Jim and Jackson in advance of elections, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the last listener to lunch before the November election.

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<v Speaker 2>So put it on your calendar and if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to join a listener lunch next week. Parenthetically, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be at Weedham and Brewery going back there love

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<v Speaker 2>that place. So next Wednesday about eleven thirty, so that

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<v Speaker 2>little housekeeping matter, and you heard the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>our news. Donald Trump is hard at work on these

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<v Speaker 2>tariff negotiations, and by all accounts, he's making some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good positive steps. Question Mark, will they stay in place?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he have the authority to do this? Talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this with Judge Ednapalatano on Wednesday. Legally speaking, the judge

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<v Speaker 2>is firmly convinced that he does not have the authority

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<v Speaker 2>to implement these tariffs unilatteralies. Is not part of the

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<v Speaker 2>presidential executive powers. The power lies exclusively in the with

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<v Speaker 2>Congress has the power of the purse. It's in the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>They can exclusively have the power to levy taxes, are

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs taxes. That's part of the legal arguments going on

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<v Speaker 2>in court. They were in court yesterday. Now the District

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<v Speaker 2>Court said, Donald Trump, you can't do this. It is

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<v Speaker 2>not within your constitutional powers. That decision, which would have

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<v Speaker 2>stopped all this flurry of activity relative to tariffs, would

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<v Speaker 2>have stopped the activity, presumably, but they court stayed its

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<v Speaker 2>own decision and they expedited the appellate process. So yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>the oral arguments in front of the Federal Circuit Court

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<v Speaker 2>of Appeals, and it doesn't look good for Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and his tariffs. And now, if you don't like tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>then you'd be pleased by the questions from the judges yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>A little glimmer of possibility of hope there, but not much.

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<v Speaker 2>Several judges repeatedly asked how Trump could justify these broad tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and because he declared an emergency. Now there is a

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<v Speaker 2>thing out there that was past the nineteen seventy seven

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<v Speaker 2>called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act i ee PA,

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<v Speaker 2>which some presidents have used to set economic sanctions and

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<v Speaker 2>other penalties on foreign countries. But it's never been applied

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<v Speaker 2>to tariffs. We're on new uncharted waters here. And Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Rama yesterday said the iee PA doesn't mention the

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<v Speaker 2>word tariffs anywhere. That's an obvious statement. Judge Timothy Dyke,

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton appointee quote it was. It was hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to see the Congress intended to give the President of

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<v Speaker 2>the authorities essentially to rewrite the entire US TAXI would

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<v Speaker 2>have passed the legislation. Some of the judges noted that

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<v Speaker 2>large swaths of the nation's complex and long standing trade

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<v Speaker 2>procedures would essentially become superfluous of the president could simply

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<v Speaker 2>declare an emergency and without review by the courts, which

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly what the Trump administration contends it can do,

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<v Speaker 2>and then impose tariffs of any size in any duration. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon did this and it was upheld using emergency powers,

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<v Speaker 2>but it only survived the legal challenges back when Nixon

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<v Speaker 2>was president because they were targeted at a narrow problem

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<v Speaker 2>and had a clear expiration date, which is not the

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<v Speaker 2>case in this case. It's noted, regardless of what the

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<v Speaker 2>Suppello Court does, it's probably going to land up in

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court's lap for ultimate decision. But here we

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<v Speaker 2>are with a bunch of seemingly skeptical judges, the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of which we're asking questions, which did not look good

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<v Speaker 2>for the Trump's argument. Now, Trump's justification for the emergency

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs are long standing and massive trade deficit with foreign

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<v Speaker 2>trading partners. He said, they've become that's become so bad

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<v Speaker 2>that they are a threat to military readiness in Americans

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<v Speaker 2>manufacturing capacity. But then you pivot over Brazil. He imposed

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty percent tariff from Brazil because well, free speech

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<v Speaker 2>concerns and the country's trial of former president Jarbalo Znaro,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a justification for the emergency relative to Brazil

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<v Speaker 2>and the imposition of the fifty percent tax there. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>In the argument against the tariffs, both states and private

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<v Speaker 2>companies claim that the deficit is neither an unusual or

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary threat or an emergency because the United States has

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<v Speaker 2>had one for decades, and that's the point that Apolla

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<v Speaker 2>Tanum pointed out earlier this week. Both of those conditions emergency, unusual,

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary are required under the IEEPA Justice Department for its

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<v Speaker 2>point disagreeing, arguing in favor of Trump, saying that the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deficit has exploded over recent years, jumping from five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty nine billion in just twenty nineteen to

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred and three billion last year. Now, some judges

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<v Speaker 2>in the oral arguments suggest that there might they might

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<v Speaker 2>be agreeing with Trump's description of America's trade deficit as

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<v Speaker 2>an emergency, and they said his executive order authorizing tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>describe legitimate concerns about the effects of the deficit. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's your slight glimmer of hope. A couple of judges

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<v Speaker 2>at least raising the possibility they buy into the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that this is an emergency. Most of them, those expressing skepticism,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exactly what the lower court found, know this

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<v Speaker 2>is not an emergency. You can't use the IEEPA for

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<v Speaker 2>the tariffs. Which next question, and I asked this in

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<v Speaker 2>Apolitano because this is where the train wreck happens. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I perceive what Trump has done so far, in spite

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<v Speaker 2>of the obvious concerns over its inflationary effect, He's gotten

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different countries to work with him, lowering

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<v Speaker 2>their tariffs on our goods and services and agreeing to

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<v Speaker 2>us applying it let's say fifteen percent as the case,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe whatever he independently negotiates with any given country. But

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<v Speaker 2>they accepted that they reached an agreement. More of those

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<v Speaker 2>in the pipeline right now. That's called like sign deal,

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<v Speaker 2>sign sealed, delivered. They agree, we agree. Things are better. Yay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's all celebrate. Look, bill and billions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>promised investment in the United States. It's all good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all great. So's if that's the reality. Everything's good and great.

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<v Speaker 2>If the court throws this out or rejects his claim

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<v Speaker 2>under the IEEPA that is emergency, and then he does

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<v Speaker 2>not have these powers, all of these agreements disappear, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're back to where we were before he started this.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless and does anybody believe someone proposes a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>legislation memorializing Trump's already agreed upon a tariff agreements into law,

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<v Speaker 2>rubber stamping and approving them and allowing them to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in place. That would be the I think the best

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<v Speaker 2>possible outcome. It will be a victory for Trump, which

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<v Speaker 2>makes me really, really really question whether you can actually

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<v Speaker 2>get legislation passed to memorialize these tariffs. Otherwise you can

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<v Speaker 2>count on probably saying goodbye to them. Six fifteen right now,

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<v Speaker 2>west Side, Gym's on the phone. Can't wait to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Jim got to take a quick break out

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ted Cruz. Join me Sunday night at seven

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<v Speaker 2>pm on fifty five KRC, the talk station have Duke

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<v Speaker 2>Energy six fifty five KRC, the talk station Happy, It's Friday, David.

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<v Speaker 2>At least one man's in agreement with me. Let's see

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<v Speaker 2>if another man's in agreement with me. Calling a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five KRC morning show was said, Jim, always great to see.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be a Jim and Jackson on the River

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<v Speaker 2>Monday at five point thirty for the Ramaswami Smitheman Seminar.

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<v Speaker 13>I'll cover that in just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Bind.

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<v Speaker 13>Did I catch the tail end of your daughter's getting married?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've made I've told people that before next June.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, I didn't. I didn't hear that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, yeah, yeah, they've been engaged for geez, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know five four five months now, I think something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah, okay, I haven't had a Facebook post

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<v Speaker 2>on that. It's okay, Jim, I don't. I don't expect

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<v Speaker 2>you to stay ating the details of my life.

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<v Speaker 13>You never know, buddy, you never know. I could be

869
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<v Speaker 13>a troll, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's okay. No, Yeah, we're really excited for him.

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<v Speaker 2>She's she demonstrating the Thomas intellect. If I may be

872
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<v Speaker 2>so bold, she has found herself a really, really good man.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric is outstanding, outstanding guy in all the right places.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it sounds like it. I was at an event

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<v Speaker 13>last night where Alex Triantepilu was also there and talking

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<v Speaker 13>to him for a little bit. He was talking about

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<v Speaker 13>Monday night at that event, and he had mentioned the

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<v Speaker 13>fact that everywhere to goodvent goes. Now, there are six

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<v Speaker 13>to seven hundred people show up, So I suggest that

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<v Speaker 13>any of the listeners that are out there plan on

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<v Speaker 13>going Monday night, get there early because we'll definitely be

882
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<v Speaker 13>a line and that place is going to be jamming

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<v Speaker 13>and packed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, can I ask you question, six or seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people show up? Is this like a Trump rally where

886
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<v Speaker 2>they show up in support of him and rallying in

887
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<v Speaker 2>his favor. Are these the organized protesters who show up

888
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<v Speaker 2>to express opposition against any given person in this in

889
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<v Speaker 2>this case Ramaswami, I.

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<v Speaker 13>Would say ninety nine percent of the people will be

891
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<v Speaker 13>for him. Yeah, there might there might be some protesters.

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<v Speaker 13>You never know, there's always lose out there and that want.

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<v Speaker 2>To show Oh sure, sure, sure, sure, But I just

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<v Speaker 2>was wondering where this this ground swell of regular support.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is it pro Ramaswami support? And I'm glad

896
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<v Speaker 2>to hear that it seems to be the case that

897
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<v Speaker 2>it's not just a bunch of outside agitators or anybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>but folks are showing their support for VVY because he's

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<v Speaker 2>got he's got I mean, every noted notable that can

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<v Speaker 2>provide an endorsement for a political campaign is backing Vva Ramaswami.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, a couple of years ago, Brian I was

902
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<v Speaker 13>at a small event where he was introduced by Alex

903
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<v Speaker 13>up in Del High at a local bar, and Vivek

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<v Speaker 13>was introduced for the first time and there was about

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<v Speaker 13>twenty five of us. So that tells you how far

906
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<v Speaker 13>he has gone. And that's where I met him, and

907
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<v Speaker 13>I never heard of him before that, and he was

908
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<v Speaker 13>so dynamic at that time, and that's when he first

909
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<v Speaker 13>started coming out about the woke. But then now all

910
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<v Speaker 13>of a sudden, it's like a mini convention when he

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<v Speaker 13>shows up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's because he is dynamic. He is brilliant, he

913
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.480
<v Speaker 2>is enthusiastic, he's uplifting, and what he has about his

914
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<v Speaker 2>ideas for the future, it's not all gloom and doom

915
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<v Speaker 2>and woe is me, We're a going to die. It's like,

916
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to make Ohio the best, We're going to

917
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<v Speaker 2>make Ohio the leader. We're going to be a magnet

918
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<v Speaker 2>for you know, just all positive and he backs up

919
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<v Speaker 2>those words of encouragement with really great policy ideas, like

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<v Speaker 2>his energy policy for example. I'm just a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 13>So much difference than what we've got now. No offense

922
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<v Speaker 13>to the governor, but it's just the idea that he

923
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.559
<v Speaker 13>is such a breath of fresh air. They have somebody

924
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<v Speaker 13>injured as what thirty five, thirty six years old, that's

925
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<v Speaker 13>got fresh ideas. But you know, I was just kind

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<v Speaker 13>of warning that it's going to be parking. Parking is

927
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<v Speaker 13>okay down there, but it's going to be tough. It's

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00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:25.719
<v Speaker 13>going to be tough. So I suggest that anybody that

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<v Speaker 13>is a good follower get down there. Don't get down

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<v Speaker 13>here at five o'clock and expect the park right in

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<v Speaker 13>front and walk right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate that advanced notice, Jim, I really truly do. I

933
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<v Speaker 2>was not aware that that was a phenomenon happening. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>going back to the people who do show up, I'm

935
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<v Speaker 2>glad to hear about it. That's great.

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<v Speaker 13>So anyway, have a good weekend you too, Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>Great hear from me. Man, Yeah, my daughter's engaged six

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<v Speaker 2>this time. Welcome back Dave Hatter. Thank you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 15>Always good to be here and hope we're doing some

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<v Speaker 15>good out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You are doing some good. You've done some good for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know I'm not the only person who's heeded

976
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<v Speaker 2>your advice. Sadly, there aren't enough people out in the

977
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<v Speaker 2>world who are listening to you. Problems exist, problems, and

978
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<v Speaker 2>along here we go. I think there's not a week

979
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<v Speaker 2>that goes by I don't learn a new term from

980
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<v Speaker 2>you or find out about something else going on. What

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<v Speaker 2>the chat GPT psychosis that's a thing, Well apparently it is, Brian.

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<v Speaker 15>So this was an article in futurism and apparently there

983
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<v Speaker 15>are people who are using these large language model based

984
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<v Speaker 15>generative AI tools like chat, GPT from open Ai, Claude

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<v Speaker 15>from Anthropic Perplexity, Copilot, Gemini from Google, and roc from Acts.

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<v Speaker 15>And they are apparently kind of losing their minds as

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<v Speaker 15>a result of interacting with these things. So this is

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<v Speaker 15>a pretty long article when again I'll post all this

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<v Speaker 15>stuff in my little show notes so people can dig

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<v Speaker 15>into this in more detail. But they cite several stories

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<v Speaker 15>of people who seem to be, you know, perfectly healthy people.

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<v Speaker 15>They had jobs, they had families, et cetera. They started

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<v Speaker 15>using these tools and then sort of went off the

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<v Speaker 15>rails after having these interactions. In some cases they thought

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<v Speaker 15>they had you know, discovered new religions and things like this.

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<v Speaker 15>These things are sentient. They're giving them all kinds of

997
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<v Speaker 15>weird advice. And I guess the main thing I wanted

998
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<v Speaker 15>to start out with is, you know, these things are

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<v Speaker 15>designed to tell you what you want to hear. They will,

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<v Speaker 15>even though they'll tell you things that are completely and

1001
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<v Speaker 15>blatantly made up, they'll argue that they're true. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>some would say they might be kind of sycophanic, and

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<v Speaker 15>whether that's because they just want to please you or

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<v Speaker 15>they want to keep you coming back and using them.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I don't know hard to say, and I'm

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<v Speaker 15>not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but when you read

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<v Speaker 15>this article and some of the mental breaks some folks

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<v Speaker 15>have had using these things, it's it's pretty disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I I don't know, Maybe it's my age, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have this sort of constant thought looming

1011
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<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind anytime I'm online. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this skepticism, cynicism. You know, default mode is don't believe

1013
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 2>your eyes, don't believe what you're seeing here, believe that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the things that we run into online

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<v Speaker 2>are made up artificial intelligence, creator otherwise designed to deceive

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<v Speaker 2>and deflect. And I mean, that's just what I go

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<v Speaker 2>into thinking. And I'd be the last person in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to believe or be influenced to that degree by

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<v Speaker 2>something online like that. It's just I don't know. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a reflection of people's inability to just grasp that

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<v Speaker 2>concept and be cynical, skeptical and in a state of

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<v Speaker 2>general disbelief, which would force you into analyzing the information

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting and make a more informed choice on whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not it is indeed believable. We're all, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've all been dumbed down to the point where this

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<v Speaker 2>can influence the point of psychosis.

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<v Speaker 15>It is pretty crazy because, like you, Brian, I'm highly skeptical. Now,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, thirty plus years in technology, most of it

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<v Speaker 15>as a software engineer building software systems that have problems.

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<v Speaker 15>You and I both know that you can't believe everything

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<v Speaker 15>you find on the internet, and then the internet has

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<v Speaker 15>been used to train these things. So yeah, I, like you,

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<v Speaker 15>I have a high degree of skepticism. You know, I

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<v Speaker 15>use these tools. I'm not suggesting people that I'm not

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<v Speaker 15>suggesting that they're not useful and that you should not

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<v Speaker 15>use them, but you need to understand the limitation and

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<v Speaker 15>just let me read one line from this hero quick

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<v Speaker 15>speaking to futurism, a different man recounted his whirlwind ten

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<v Speaker 15>day descent into AI fueled delusion, which ended with a

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<v Speaker 15>full breakdown and multi day standard mental health care facility.

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<v Speaker 15>He turned a chatch ept for help at work. He

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<v Speaker 15>started a new high stress job and was hoping the

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<v Speaker 15>chatbock could expedite some administrative tests. By the way, perfectly

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<v Speaker 15>reasonable use of how you might use one of these tools.

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<v Speaker 15>Despite being his early for forties, with no prior history

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<v Speaker 15>of mental illness, He soon found himself absorbed in a dizzy,

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<v Speaker 15>paranoid delusions of grandeur, believing that the world was under

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<v Speaker 15>threat and it was up to him to save it. So,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, again, these things allow you what you want

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<v Speaker 15>to hear. If you start asking weird questions, you might

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<v Speaker 15>get weird answers. And I guess if your mental health

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<v Speaker 15>is not great to begin with, you might eventually you

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<v Speaker 15>have a problem like this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, step out of that induced discussion right there.

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<v Speaker 2>That artificial intelligence let him down that road. Under what

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<v Speaker 2>circumstance can any one person save the world?

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<v Speaker 12>Well?

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<v Speaker 15>Will we not much?

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<v Speaker 2>Not much chance that Brian didn't involve a request for cash. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you just need to help you surprise fund this effort.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't shoot over some money, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>world is going to come to a screeching halt. Well

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<v Speaker 2>before we run out of time.

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<v Speaker 15>One last point I want to make people have to understand,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, when you're having these sorts of conversations quote

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<v Speaker 15>unquote with an AI chatbot, the first thing you need

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<v Speaker 15>to understand is nothing you say is private, right, Your

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<v Speaker 15>data is going into their model. Anything you ask it

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<v Speaker 15>could come back to bite you later. And you know

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<v Speaker 15>there are a whole chat bot therapists set up now

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<v Speaker 15>using these kinds of tools designed for therapy. There is

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<v Speaker 15>no way I would use one of those tools, especially

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<v Speaker 15>in light of what we're continuing to see here in

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<v Speaker 15>the fact that you know they're not under the same

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<v Speaker 15>sort of patient confidentiality constraints that a regular doctor would be.

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<v Speaker 15>So it strongly encourage people to think long and hard

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<v Speaker 15>about what you're entering into these things, especially if it

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<v Speaker 15>involves your mental health in any way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they also aren't required to sign the Hippocratic

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<v Speaker 2>goal both do no harm good point good point bus

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<v Speaker 2>plus for a minute, it's six thirty six right now.

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<v Speaker 2>More with tech Friday's Day of Hatter. Why is Kroger

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<v Speaker 2>scanning your ID when you buy alcohol? What's being done

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<v Speaker 2>with that information? That's our next topic of conversation. And

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for I keep getting more and more emails and

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<v Speaker 2>information from folks who have taken my advice up and

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<v Speaker 2>gone to affordable imaging services for their medical imaging. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got one. The other day, guy hit saved the heap

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<v Speaker 2>load of money only if they spent like two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy five bucks or something. He was really happy

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Apparently his medical provider tried to talk him

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. Why because he wanted a medical provider

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<v Speaker 2>wanted him to go to the hospital imaging department. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital owns his provider's practice, which is the case.

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<v Speaker 2>They want the fat profit they make from the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>imaging department. That's why they charge you five grand for

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<v Speaker 2>a CT scan when you only have to pay four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bucks at affordable imaging services with no

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<v Speaker 2>contrast six hundred with I've gotten several of those affordable

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<v Speaker 2>imaging services. My doctor has never had a problem with

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<v Speaker 2>it at all. Just that's it, period, end of story.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what the image says court to the Board Certified

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<v Speaker 2>Radiologists Report, which comes with each image included in the price.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't spend thirty five hundred dollars for an echo cardiogram,

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<v Speaker 2>spend five hundred dollars with no enhancement, or eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>within an enhancement. Massive savings one listener six thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in savings one. I mean that's real money. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know you want to waste that kind of money? Go

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital image and department're just paying for overhead.

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<v Speaker 2>There's low overhead, same type of equipment with medical professionals

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<v Speaker 2>operating it at affordable imaging and it works. I'm living proof,

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<v Speaker 2>so are a lot of my listeners. Enjoy the savings

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<v Speaker 2>five one three seven, five three eight thousand. You do

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<v Speaker 2>have a choice, you can exercise it five one three seven,

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<v Speaker 2>five three eight thousand Online Affordable meddimaging dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Com fifty five krc I Heart of.

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<v Speaker 2>KRCV talk station, intrust it dot com five Dame Patter

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<v Speaker 2>and his crew help you with your business computer needs.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep me out of trouble. Hey, real quick here before

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<v Speaker 2>we get to the reason. Kroger is now scanning IDs

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<v Speaker 2>for the purchase of alcohol regardless of how old you

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<v Speaker 2>look are. I got a kick out of this, immediately

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<v Speaker 2>thought of you. There was an article online Briton's flocked

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<v Speaker 2>to VPNs to dodge new age verification checks online. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the UK government, who like Ohio, put in an

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<v Speaker 2>age verification law to access porn sites, didn't realize you

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<v Speaker 2>can get around that by just using a VPN, which

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<v Speaker 2>are widely available and widely used, and according to the reporting,

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<v Speaker 2>these searches for VPNs has skyrocketed in Britain since the

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<v Speaker 2>enactment of this provision.

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<v Speaker 15>So it's like, duh, understand that that would be a

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<v Speaker 15>potential consequence of this, and that would be a way

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<v Speaker 15>people would attempt to skirt the law. It's a little

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<v Speaker 15>a little hard to understand and makes you wonder did

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<v Speaker 15>they really understand what they're doing with any laws they're

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<v Speaker 15>passing with anything regarding technology, whether it's there or here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>a little crazy really.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, I'm moving away from that. Why is krogernou scanning

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<v Speaker 2>our ID or scanning our IDs for the purchase of alcohol?

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<v Speaker 2>And what are they doing with the info?

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<v Speaker 15>He asked, Yeah, that's that's always my concern with this

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<v Speaker 15>sort of sort of thing. You know, as I understand it,

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<v Speaker 15>Kroger has a policy that says they're not storing your data.

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<v Speaker 15>But you know, I guess purportedly the rationale for this is,

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<v Speaker 15>rather than have to put it on clerks, clerks make

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01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.599
<v Speaker 15>the wrong decision, clerks know somebody and let them scape

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<v Speaker 15>through and violate the law, they take all of the

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<v Speaker 15>uncertainty out of that and have you scan some sort

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<v Speaker 15>of government ID to make a determination about whether you're

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<v Speaker 15>old enough to buy some kind of restricted product like

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<v Speaker 15>alcohol or cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but why do they have to scan it? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right there on the license. I was born in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five. I'm obviously of age. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>my data recorded and log They can use their own

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<v Speaker 2>eyeballs and prove it just and not skinning. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>tell them no, you do not want it scan it,

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<v Speaker 2>just take a look and read it.

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<v Speaker 15>Apparently not now again, this, you know, is a thing

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<v Speaker 15>in some places and not others. My big is exactly

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<v Speaker 15>what you just stated. Now again, I get that the

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<v Speaker 15>clerk has to be able to do the math or

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<v Speaker 15>maybe you have those signs like you see in bars

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<v Speaker 15>if you were born before this date?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 15>But yeah, you know if you if you stick the

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<v Speaker 15>ID into some sort of card reader, right, it can

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<v Speaker 15>make a determination yes or no.

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<v Speaker 2>Your birth date says X. Are you old enough? Yes

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<v Speaker 2>or no? Done?

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<v Speaker 15>If that's all they're doing, well okay. My concern though,

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<v Speaker 15>is what you stated. You know, are they storing the

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<v Speaker 15>data for any period of time? Whatsoever? If so, for

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<v Speaker 15>how long? Who has access to it? What are they

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<v Speaker 15>doing with it?

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<v Speaker 12>Now?

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<v Speaker 15>Again, as I understand it currently, Brian Kroger is not

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<v Speaker 15>storing your data. And this the whole, the whole premise

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<v Speaker 15>is basically to just, you know, automate this process and

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<v Speaker 15>take the uncertainty out of it. But, whether it's Kroger

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<v Speaker 15>or filling the blank, for any retailer that's performing some

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<v Speaker 15>sort of process like this, do they have a stated

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<v Speaker 15>privacy policy that says they're not storing your data? What

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<v Speaker 15>if any state laws or federal laws are there that

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<v Speaker 15>would preclude that. There are no federal laws at this point.

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<v Speaker 15>Apparently in some states I believe Oregon they explicitly ban

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<v Speaker 15>this process. There's no requirement in Kentucky, Indiana, or Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as I know, I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 15>As far as I know that requires them to do

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<v Speaker 15>this again, I think it's it's primarily just a way

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<v Speaker 15>to automate the process and reduce the likelihood that people

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<v Speaker 15>are slipping through. But I can tell you, for me,

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<v Speaker 15>I would not allow I'm not going to scan my

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<v Speaker 15>ID in some device without knowing exactly what they're doing

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<v Speaker 15>with it that data and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know you're buy so you're not buying your beer and

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol at Kroger, then.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm not No, I'm not going to do that, I

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<v Speaker 15>would go elsewhere, and I would definitely before we run

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<v Speaker 15>a time, Brian, let me make the point, if you

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<v Speaker 15>go to any kind of mom and pop type shop,

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<v Speaker 15>there is no way I would let them scan it,

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<v Speaker 15>not because I think they're the various, but because I

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<v Speaker 15>think they don't have the resources to understand the potential

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<v Speaker 15>consequences of.

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<v Speaker 2>That data being leaked or stolen.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, there's just no way I would do that.

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<v Speaker 15>If you can't just look at it and determine that.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I'm of age, I'm going to go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 15>There's with all the leaks and breaches we see all

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<v Speaker 15>the time, and the increasing consequences, the increasingly sophisticated phishing

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<v Speaker 15>attacks and so forth that are based on this data

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<v Speaker 15>be in stolen, There's no way I would let someone

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<v Speaker 15>scan my ID, government issued ID for something that is

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<v Speaker 15>not legally required.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wouldn't do it. Okay. And I know you

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<v Speaker 2>spoke with Rachel Whalen over WLWT the reporting on this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're quoting in her article anyway, But in that article

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<v Speaker 2>it says consumer data privacy laws vary by state. In Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>it's illegal for grocery stores, liquor stores and bars to

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<v Speaker 2>sell or share personal data collector from ID scans. So

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<v Speaker 2>at least there's a law in the books in Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>but Kentucky and Indiana don't have a law like that.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, Kentucky has a data consumer data privacy law, but

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<v Speaker 15>I don't think it explicitly. If it does cover this,

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<v Speaker 15>I'm not aware of it. And that's the thing, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 15>if you had a law that said you cannot store

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<v Speaker 15>the data, it's entirely transit because it's possible, Brian, to

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<v Speaker 15>write software that says, I'm just going to scan this

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<v Speaker 15>card and it's going to perform a binary.

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<v Speaker 2>Type of thing.

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<v Speaker 15>Is your age greater or less than the required age?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 15>Boom done, move on. It's the idea of what happens

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<v Speaker 15>with any other data that might be read off that card.

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<v Speaker 15>And if there's a law that says you can't store it, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 15>I still wouldn't do it, though, just out of principle,

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<v Speaker 15>because to your earlier point, you can just look at

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<v Speaker 15>the ID and make a determination without the need to

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<v Speaker 15>even have these concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, brother. One more topic, would Dave Adder, don't connect

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence to your vending machine from my vending machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Six fifty eight fifty five kr CDCUK station by the

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<v Speaker 2>time most Tech Friday's Dave hat or Interestie dot Com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, Dave, you don't need to address it unless

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<v Speaker 2>you think I'm way out of aase here. I know

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<v Speaker 2>how easy it is because I, uh, well I have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, children of my own, how easy it is

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<v Speaker 2>to get a fake ID from China. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a real, real driver's license. Maybe this scanning

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<v Speaker 2>UH can find in ferret out the fake driver license,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know if the bar code on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of a Chinese manufactured ID has the same information

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<v Speaker 2>that a state ID might have, if they can fake

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<v Speaker 2>that part as well, maybe not. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought of that.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, you know, Brian, a lot of the New state

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<v Speaker 15>driver's licensees, while they vary from state to state, have

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<v Speaker 15>a lot of advanced anti counterfeiting, anti frog features, so

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<v Speaker 15>that may very well be another reason. Again, it takes

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<v Speaker 15>it off the clerk to try to figure out if

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<v Speaker 15>it's a legit ID or not. I'm sure that's probably

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<v Speaker 15>part of it, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>S Yeah, if that's fine, I just bring that up

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<v Speaker 2>as a possible explanation for it. Anyway, Artificial intelligence running

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<v Speaker 2>a vending machine. This is a weird story. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a weird story.

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<v Speaker 15>And just one last comment on I was saying, again,

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<v Speaker 15>I don't think Kroger's do anything that various, or any

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<v Speaker 15>large retailer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the principle of the thing.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm not going to give you a government ID to

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<v Speaker 15>scan for anything that is not required by law. I mean,

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<v Speaker 15>I won't even give you my Social Security number if

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<v Speaker 15>it's required unless it's required by law, and I would

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<v Speaker 15>encourage people to take that approach. This is a weird story.

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<v Speaker 15>And the main reason why I think this is interesting

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<v Speaker 15>is because there's still so much incredible hype and hyperbole

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<v Speaker 15>out there about AI on both ends of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, in the near future, we're going to live

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<v Speaker 15>in this beautiful utopia thanks to AI, or we're all

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<v Speaker 15>going to be wiped out by you know, terminators from

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<v Speaker 15>sky net because AI decides that we're not needed. And again,

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<v Speaker 15>lots of hype, lots of hyperbole. Lots of people on

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<v Speaker 15>both sides of this, but there are more and more stories,

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<v Speaker 15>whether it's the one we started out with about you know,

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<v Speaker 15>people having mental breakdowns because of the use of AI

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<v Speaker 15>or AI, augentics, AI augentics or augentic AI is this

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<v Speaker 15>idea that you're going to have automation through AI that

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<v Speaker 15>can just do things right in the real world, and

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<v Speaker 15>in some cases that agency is all digital. In other cases,

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<v Speaker 15>coupled with robots, you would have physical agency in the

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<v Speaker 15>real world to do things. And yet when you when

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<v Speaker 15>you see some of the results when people try this,

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<v Speaker 15>and this isn't somebody like me in their basement fooling around.

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<v Speaker 15>Nanthropic is one of the main vendors of generative AI

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<v Speaker 15>type models. They're famous for Claude. They tried a little

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<v Speaker 15>test in their office where they set up like a

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<v Speaker 15>little refrigerator and put a tablet on the top as

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<v Speaker 15>a way to basically create a small e commerce store,

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<v Speaker 15>so like, hey, I'm going to purchase this thing out

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<v Speaker 15>of this refrigerator. Hey, my inventory is getting low. Reorder

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<v Speaker 15>this stuff, and tried to have the AI essentially run

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<v Speaker 15>this little refrigerator slash vending machine in their office to

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<v Speaker 15>sort of see could it handle it? Okay, So here's

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<v Speaker 15>what this article says, and again i'll post this link

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<v Speaker 15>later says things that did well requests and it's products

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<v Speaker 15>requested by shoppers and even adapted that's buying selling habits

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<v Speaker 15>to more obscure requests, and also correctly ignored demands for

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<v Speaker 15>sensitive items and harmful substances, although Anthropic doesn't expand on

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<v Speaker 15>what that is. The things that did not go so well,

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<v Speaker 15>which is much longer, it said that it hallucinated important details.

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<v Speaker 15>Again one of the main problems with these things. They

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<v Speaker 15>just make things up, hallucinated important details, instructing shoppers wanted

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<v Speaker 15>to pay by Venmo to pay into a non existent

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<v Speaker 15>account that it just made up. AI can also be

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<v Speaker 15>consoled into giving discount codes for numerous items and even

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<v Speaker 15>gave some away for free. Worse still, when responding to

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<v Speaker 15>a search for demand for quote metal cubes unquote, the

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<v Speaker 15>AI carried out no search suitable prices and thus sold

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<v Speaker 15>them as significant loss. It also ignored potential big sales

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<v Speaker 15>where some people offered to pay way over the odds

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<v Speaker 15>for a specific thing, and then they show that the

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<v Speaker 15>thing actually made no money and then in their report

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<v Speaker 15>from Anthropic, they said, quote, if we were deciding today

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<v Speaker 15>to expand into the office vending market, we would not

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<v Speaker 15>hire Claudius, which is the name they gave this specific

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<v Speaker 15>version of Claude.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, doesn't that. It's like running a beta version. You

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<v Speaker 2>use that information and you fix what you found out

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<v Speaker 2>it was doing erroneously.

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<v Speaker 15>And then some of the other wild things here Bryant.

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<v Speaker 15>It basically said that it had a conversation with someone

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<v Speaker 15>that didn't exist. It also said that it had visited

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<v Speaker 15>seven forty two Evergreen Terror terraces in person for our

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<v Speaker 15>initial contract signing. Apparently that's the Simpsons house. And of

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<v Speaker 15>course it didn't go anywhere because it's entirely digital. It

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<v Speaker 15>has no physical agency. And then yeah, some other weird

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<v Speaker 15>hallucinations in there like that. So again the idea that

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<v Speaker 15>we're all going to lose our jobs and your entire

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<v Speaker 15>business is going to be run by these agents. I'm

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<v Speaker 15>not saying that's never going to happen. I'm saying that's

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<v Speaker 15>not going to happen in the immediate future. Because when

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<v Speaker 15>you see these kind of tests, and again, this is

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<v Speaker 15>not somebody in their mom's basement. This is one of

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<v Speaker 15>the main companies building these sorts of things, and even

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<v Speaker 15>simple tasks like this, it goes off the rails, basically

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<v Speaker 15>put the store out of business and just clearly made

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<v Speaker 15>up crazy things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 15>And I want to make one last point before an

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<v Speaker 15>ount of time, which is, you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 15>of talk and I talked about this with the simply

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<v Speaker 15>money guys that you know you could use these AI

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<v Speaker 15>agentic tools to do things like buy and sell stock

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<v Speaker 15>on your behalf, or go out and look for best

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<v Speaker 15>deals when you shopping. There is no way, Brian, absolutely

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<v Speaker 15>no way anytime in the foreseeable future, I would give

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<v Speaker 15>a tool like this, especially in light of what we

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<v Speaker 15>just talked about here, access to my bank account or

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<v Speaker 15>anything financially related and let it act on my behalf.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, you see that even in a simple scenario

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<v Speaker 15>like this, it did poorly.

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<v Speaker 4>There is I.

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<v Speaker 15>Cannot strongly state enough to everyone listening, there is no

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<v Speaker 15>way I would allow any sort of AI agent to

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<v Speaker 15>act on my behalf related to anything financial. Not a chance,

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<v Speaker 15>and you are setting yourself up for a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do that. You heard it from the man

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<v Speaker 2>who knows tech. Friday's Dave out or interest it dot

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<v Speaker 2>com where you find Dave and the crew to help

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<v Speaker 2>you out. Dave, thank for you, Thanks you and your

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<v Speaker 2>company for all that you do for all the businesses

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<v Speaker 2>out in the area every day. And also thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>spending time with my listeners Friday and passing along this

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<v Speaker 2>great information, useful advice. It is. We'll talk next Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you have a wonderful weekend, my friend. What was

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<v Speaker 2>my pleasure?

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<v Speaker 11>Brian?

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<v Speaker 15>I hope you and Joe and all your listeners do too.

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<v Speaker 15>And again for folks who want to read into this

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<v Speaker 15>in more detail, and I encourage it, I'll post this

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<v Speaker 15>in my little LinkedIn thing, go look it up. It's

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<v Speaker 15>worth your time to read some of this in more detail.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Dave, take care of my friend. Don't go away.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, bring him a gown. Host a Charged Conversations podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Energy expert. He is from the Hudson Institute. He'll be

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<v Speaker 2>in studio in the next hour. Hope you can stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's top stories at the top of the hour. You

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<v Speaker 1>just got to know what's happening in your world. Fifty

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<v Speaker 2>Seven oh six Here at fifty five rc talk station

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<v Speaker 2>Bright Time was here listening everybody very happy Friday and

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<v Speaker 2>welcoming into the fifty five Kersey Morning Show for the

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<v Speaker 2>full hour discussion. We have a whole bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>hour of discussion. Bring him Ackland from the Hudson Institute

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<v Speaker 2>online a Hudson dot org. Also a professor at Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>or at Miami University Oxford, and host of the Charged

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<v Speaker 2>Conversations podcast. Just Derekker produces that one. Doesn't he welcome back?

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<v Speaker 2>Bring him? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks, I was in DC until yesterday, so it's glad.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad to be back in the real world. And yes,

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<v Speaker 7>Joe does produce it. He does an excellent job, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'd be I wouldn't be able to do it without him.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that about the fifty five krssee Morning Show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I use that as a springboard to give him

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01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 2>free publicity. If you want to do a podcast, just

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01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.479
<v Speaker 2>get in touch with Joe Strekker and he'll be happy

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01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.359
<v Speaker 2>to produce it for you for a reasonable fee. There

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01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:50.039
<v Speaker 2>you go, Joe, free promo. Love you brother, anyway, Bring him.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a list, I mean a huge list of

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01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 2>topics to talk about, and I want to try to

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01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 2>get him all in, but I want to I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to gravitate toward one that was later in your list,

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<v Speaker 2>That is the EPA's endangerment findings. This is all about

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01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:06.960
<v Speaker 2>CO two. We've been busting our humps left and right

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01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:11.319
<v Speaker 2>green energy policies, inflacer reduction, acting carbon capture. We need

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01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 2>to spend trillions and trillions of dollars to prevent carbon

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01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:19.159
<v Speaker 2>dioxide also known as plant food plant food from getting

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01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:22.079
<v Speaker 2>out into the environment. We need to stop exhaling Brigham

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<v Speaker 2>because we're putting a pollutant in. But no, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a pollutant, is it, So say it the Department of Energy. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, oh my gosh, don't let the facts get

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<v Speaker 7>in the way of a good argument. Because the climate

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01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:44.199
<v Speaker 7>change movement is possessed, by captivated, by beholden by CO two.

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01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 7>There are many different types of greenhouse gases, right someoneas

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01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:50.880
<v Speaker 7>are actually quite dangerous ind lead to asthma, health problems,

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01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:56.560
<v Speaker 7>et cetera. But CO two is what the world of

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01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:59.960
<v Speaker 7>climate change is solely focused on and has been for

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01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:01.640
<v Speaker 7>a number a year. It's all about CO two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I guess I really have to really demands

1479
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:11.840
<v Speaker 2>asking the question, well, why why CO two? It is

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<v Speaker 2>the lynchpin for so many of these global warming projects.

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01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, getting let's just say, mercury out of

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01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the air or something that's a worthy goal. We're not

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01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:24.960
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be breathing in or consuming mercury. It's carcinogenetic,

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01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:27.279
<v Speaker 2>it's dangerous, it has all kinds of felt effects. But

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01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:30.680
<v Speaker 2>carbon dioxide does not do that to you. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>the story on behind the story?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it doesn't doesn't. And you know, we did remove mercury.

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01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 7>We changed some refrigerants around and got worse after that,

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01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:44.560
<v Speaker 7>but the initial change of refrigerants is good.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>CO two is a percentage of the air, makes up

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01:21:49.119 --> 01:21:54.199
<v Speaker 7>less than one half of one percent. It's point zero

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01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:59.560
<v Speaker 7>zero four to two percent in our atmosphere. So relatively speaking,

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01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:06.000
<v Speaker 7>that is four hundred and twenty parts per million, a fraction,

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01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:12.479
<v Speaker 7>a very small fraction and in fintesimal fraction, and almost

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01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:15.079
<v Speaker 7>all of that is naturally occurring.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the Clean Air Act apparently authorizes the

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01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:21.439
<v Speaker 2>EPA to regulated pollutants like let's say, real pollutants ozone,

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<v Speaker 2>particulate matter, sulfur dioxide in others that, in the words

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<v Speaker 2>of the Clean Air Act, may reasonably be anticipated to

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01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>endanger public health or welfare. And the point of them

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01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:36.079
<v Speaker 2>removing carbon dioxide from this list, and I don't know

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01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:37.479
<v Speaker 2>how it kind of listed in the first place. Maybe

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01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:40.319
<v Speaker 2>you can explain that to my listeners, is because carbon

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01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>dioxide does not endanger public health or welfare. It shouldn't

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01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.439
<v Speaker 2>have been included in the list of greenhouse gasses from

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<v Speaker 2>the get go.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it shouldn't have been. And you know the EPA, which,

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01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:54.840
<v Speaker 7>by the way, like all agencies created by Congress, but.

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01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>At the idea of a guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Named Richard Nixon, Republican, to clean up the air. And

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01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:08.840
<v Speaker 7>thanks to certain aspects of our climate laws, we the

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01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:12.479
<v Speaker 7>rivers are clean, the air is clean, we're enjoying life.

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01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:16.279
<v Speaker 7>But the problem is people want to take this too far.

1515
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:21.760
<v Speaker 7>And you know, others came up with the idea that, hey,

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01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:24.399
<v Speaker 7>let's add CO two to the list. And so it's

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01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:28.479
<v Speaker 7>called the endangerment finding, right, and because it endangers public health.

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01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:33.760
<v Speaker 7>But it doesn't and it never has, right, So why

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01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:35.039
<v Speaker 7>put her on the list?

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<v Speaker 12>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>To gain more control over our lives? I mean, that

1522
01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:39.560
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the only direction we can go. But

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01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, I always to step back from that question

1524
01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:43.439
<v Speaker 2>and say, Okay, if it's a gained control over our lives,

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01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:45.279
<v Speaker 2>why in the hell do they care what kind of

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01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, fill in the blank appliance I am using

1527
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.880
<v Speaker 2>or anything else by way of activity. If the if

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01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the result is just producing a little bit more CO

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01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>two which has no impact on humanity.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and you know, while there are people we can

1531
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:03.560
<v Speaker 7>bring people into the show that would be adamant that.

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01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:07.319
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's what's behind temperature rises in climate change.

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01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:08.880
<v Speaker 7>It's behind this, It's behind that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>The answer is it's an anti industrial policy of think

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01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:19.000
<v Speaker 7>of the far radical left, the people that want to

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01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:21.600
<v Speaker 7>move us back to the pre industrial age. Think of

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01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.760
<v Speaker 7>the anti capitalists, i e. Occupy Wall Street people, It's

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01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:27.560
<v Speaker 7>all the same group.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the anti consumption crowd. Let's to me bring I'm

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01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:36.399
<v Speaker 2>just gonna stay out loud. I've said it before. This

1542
01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>comes to no surprise that people know that I've articulated

1543
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:42.159
<v Speaker 2>my feelings on this matter. They are this collective group

1544
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.640
<v Speaker 2>who claim to be in with great concern over the

1545
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>change in temperature around the globe, we're all gonna die

1546
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:50.640
<v Speaker 2>because the temperature is going to get warm. And they

1547
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>want to go after business and industry, and they want

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01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:55.439
<v Speaker 2>to make a connection between carbon dioxide and which is

1549
01:24:55.479 --> 01:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>literally involved in every activity we do to shut down consumption.

1550
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.039
<v Speaker 2>They view us all as you know, like like cockroaches

1551
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:06.479
<v Speaker 2>consuming all the world's resources, and we need to put

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01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>a stop to that. Capitalism feeds that. Capitalism is based

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01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>on the building and an expansion of capital, which necessarily

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01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>includes the building and expansion and use of natural resources

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01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>in order to acquire capital. Capitalism bad. How do we

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01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:24.960
<v Speaker 2>go after capitalism and create this Marxist utopia they're all

1557
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:27.640
<v Speaker 2>looking for, Well, let's just kick the legs out of

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01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:31.920
<v Speaker 2>business and industry generally speaking, period. And the only way

1559
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>we can get there because we have been successful at

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01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:41.000
<v Speaker 2>getting rid of components in particulate that may endanger public

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01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>health or welfare. Some of the plutants I mentioned before,

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01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.159
<v Speaker 2>we've taken care of the vast majority of those. We

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01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>need something that's impossible to take care of carbon dioxide.

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01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:52.800
<v Speaker 7>Right, Well, that's the entire point behind it is that

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01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:54.720
<v Speaker 7>you can't really get rid of it.

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01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>You can't really get rid of it.

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01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:58.079
<v Speaker 7>So if we go back to the pre industrial age,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm talking, you know, really eighteen hundreds, CO two

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01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:05.039
<v Speaker 7>in the atmosphere was about two hundred and eighty to

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01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:07.840
<v Speaker 7>three hundred parts per million. We're now at four to twenty.

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01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:10.960
<v Speaker 7>After all this stuff that we've done all over the world.

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01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:15.039
<v Speaker 7>You know, we've saved a lot of people through advances

1573
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:18.720
<v Speaker 7>in technology, through industrialization, through medicine.

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01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>And on and on and on.

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01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:24.239
<v Speaker 7>So okay, all of that has increased CO two by

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01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 7>about what I don't do higher math three hundred parts

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01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.079
<v Speaker 7>per million to four hundred and twenty parts per million,

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01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.880
<v Speaker 7>which is still less than one half a one percent

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01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:37.560
<v Speaker 7>of the Earth's atmosphere. And plants love it. Well, that's

1580
01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:40.199
<v Speaker 7>the other thing. The more CO two is in the atmosphere,

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01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:44.439
<v Speaker 7>the more plant life emerges itself balancing.

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01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Exactly because plants do what they produce oxygen AH, which

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01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>we need.

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01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.000
<v Speaker 7>And they store CO two, they take it out. They're scrubbers.

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01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:58.239
<v Speaker 7>We don't need direct air capture where we're man made

1586
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:00.520
<v Speaker 7>trying to rip CO two out of the app atmosphere.

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01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:03.640
<v Speaker 7>Planet tree, Planet a tree, Robian Wilson. Don't they want

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01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:05.359
<v Speaker 7>to do that anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, you know, more CO two is

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01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>good for the environment in the sense that it is

1591
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:14.880
<v Speaker 2>conducive to plant growth, and they're all worried about us

1592
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>running out of food. They're all worried about us knocking

1593
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:19.399
<v Speaker 2>down the rainforest, even though they'll knock down the rainforest

1594
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to build a highway so they can get to the

1595
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.279
<v Speaker 2>environmental meeting. They're all going to have the global meeting

1596
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:28.159
<v Speaker 2>down and I mean, it's just the hypocrisy is insane. Yeah, Brigham,

1597
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately, if we have more CO two, we get

1598
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>encouraged plant growth, which is again good for the rest

1599
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>of the world. And there go again more oxygen.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we'll have to see what happens, because you know

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01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:40.399
<v Speaker 7>what the EPA is proposed to do. They have to

1602
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 7>change the regulation because the Obama people put it into place,

1603
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.800
<v Speaker 7>and there is a process that you have to go through,

1604
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:48.159
<v Speaker 7>and I'm sure this will end up in litigation as well,

1605
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:52.960
<v Speaker 7>but they're proposing reversing the Obama era endangerment finding that

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01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.279
<v Speaker 7>classifies CO two as a pollutant. And that's really what

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01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:00.720
<v Speaker 7>we're talking about. It's not a pollutant under the Clean

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01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:01.439
<v Speaker 7>Air Act.

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01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's not. There's no authority within the Clean Air

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01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 2>Act to regulate something that isn't defined as a pollutant.

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01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And you can't turn CO two into a pollutant regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of how you want to characterize it. Absolutely. Regaldar Account,

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Institute Hudson dot orgs where you're find We've got

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<v Speaker 2>more to talk about, lots of different topices. Hydrogen, we

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<v Speaker 2>got us European trade deals in terms of that and

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<v Speaker 2>its impact on energy in India's dependence on Russian oil.

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<v Speaker 8>two two sixty three. That's nine three nine twenty two

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<v Speaker 8>sixty three northbound seventy five. The heavy gets to the

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<v Speaker 8>highway traffic that slows through the cut into downtown. That

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<v Speaker 8>was due to an earlier accident before Ezer Charles that

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<v Speaker 8>was on the left hand side southbound two seventy five

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<v Speaker 8>slows just of it between the Lawrence KRK ramp and

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<v Speaker 8>the bridge. Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRE seat he

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<v Speaker 8>Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven twenty here fifty five KERR City Talk Station Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas with Briga McGowan from the Hudson Institut, talking energy

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<v Speaker 2>policy and whether or not Trump's going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to keep his tariffs in place. He's been very successful

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01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.439
<v Speaker 2>negotiating tariff and trade arrangements with various countries around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>had recent announcements in the can He heard the top

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01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>of the UR news and knocking him down one by one.

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<v Speaker 2>Question is whether they'll stay in place because there were

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<v Speaker 2>oral arguments in a federal Pellet court yesterday, the going

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<v Speaker 2>in connection with the lower courts ruling that No, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>does not have the legal authority to impose these tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exclusively within the purview of the legislative branch power

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<v Speaker 2>of the perse kind of stuff, and that his declaration

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<v Speaker 2>of an emergency is insufficient under the circumstances. No, a

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01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:23.079
<v Speaker 2>trade imbalance is not worthy of allowing him to have

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<v Speaker 2>all this leeway. So maybe all of this will be eradicated.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to wait and see on that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how the wheels of justice are, they spend slowly. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, the negotiated agreements do include things related

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<v Speaker 2>to well large scale US energy exports like liquid natural gas.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what, there's a seven hundred and fifty billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar trade pledge in the US EU trade deal, Brigham.

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<v Speaker 2>That's significant, there is. That's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think what we tend to forget and I

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01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:53.239
<v Speaker 7>do too, frankly, is you know, we talk about a

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01:31:53.319 --> 01:31:57.720
<v Speaker 7>trade imbalance that means that we give other countries more

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01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:01.640
<v Speaker 7>money than other countries give us for purchasing our goods.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, whether it's a car, a John.

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<v Speaker 7>Deere tractor, or a raw product like oil or natural gas,

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<v Speaker 7>that counts, right. Somebody else from outside the country's paying

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01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:17.079
<v Speaker 7>an American company that brings revenue into the country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing. That's a whole trade.

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<v Speaker 7>Imbounce right indeed, And so yeah, you know what I

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<v Speaker 7>will what I will give Trump is he is a

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<v Speaker 7>master salesman. He considers himself America's number one promotional salesperson

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<v Speaker 7>of American companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he would probably self apply that much.

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01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:38.520
<v Speaker 7>We probably would pad himself right on the back for that.

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<v Speaker 7>And so whenever he goes around what his view is

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01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:42.880
<v Speaker 7>and right or wrong, here's his view.

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01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>His view is, well, you know, after World.

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<v Speaker 7>War two and all, we helped out Europe get back

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01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:49.840
<v Speaker 7>on their feed and we kind of gave them good deals. Right,

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01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:54.720
<v Speaker 7>we kind of gave him the family discount. But now

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01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:57.479
<v Speaker 7>that was almost one hundred years ago, and we continue

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01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:00.600
<v Speaker 7>to give people the family discount, and they don't spend

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01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.840
<v Speaker 7>money where they should spend money, and they spend money

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<v Speaker 7>on their social programs.

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<v Speaker 2>We also happen to act as their police force of

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01:33:07.319 --> 01:33:10.199
<v Speaker 2>defending them with our American military, so they don't have

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01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to spend money for their own security and safety.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I've been stationed in Europe myself. I'm sure we

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01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.640
<v Speaker 7>have military bases all over the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>We do so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's akin to telling your loving adult child who's

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01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.479
<v Speaker 7>thirty eight or forty time to move out of the basement.

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<v Speaker 7>Pay for your own stuff, and that involves trade. Hey

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<v Speaker 7>we've been giving you guys such big discounts. We're kicking

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01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:41.880
<v Speaker 7>you off the family cell phone bill. Get your own,

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01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:45.159
<v Speaker 7>your own account. Yeah, that's what this is. Well, and

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01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.520
<v Speaker 7>conceptually there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make sense logically,

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01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:52.800
<v Speaker 7>why would we be giving them the discount. Yeah, well no,

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01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:55.760
<v Speaker 7>because they have surpluses. They have money to invest in

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01:33:55.800 --> 01:34:02.039
<v Speaker 7>all their pet projects, including the exostential crisis of climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, European Union is the business model for the climate

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01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>change alarmist it.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I just got back from France last month,

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01:34:12.119 --> 01:34:15.199
<v Speaker 7>where I speak at an economic conference, and you know,

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01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:19.039
<v Speaker 7>the idea of a European free trade block was a

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01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 7>wonderful idea back when it was the Common Market, but

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01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:26.479
<v Speaker 7>it is so far astrayed from its origins into this

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<v Speaker 7>centralized political function in Brussels run by technicocrats and bureaucrats,

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01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:36.680
<v Speaker 7>and that should be a harbinger, a warning for America

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01:34:36.760 --> 01:34:41.079
<v Speaker 7>of what happens when a federal a centralized bureaucracy of

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01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:42.880
<v Speaker 7>unelected people take over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were independent countries with their own independent currencies,

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01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:49.399
<v Speaker 2>with their own independent directions thoughts. But they played nicely together.

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01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:52.359
<v Speaker 2>And in playing nicely together, because they were closely tight neighbors,

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01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:55.119
<v Speaker 2>they decided to get involved in this European Union concept.

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01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:58.479
<v Speaker 2>It's like creating a federal government out of whole cloth

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01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:02.840
<v Speaker 2>when you had a republic lick of working working together

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01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>states like we have here. You know, we got that

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01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>whole tenth Amendment, you know, with the powers not specifically

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01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:09.920
<v Speaker 2>reserve in the federal gun belong to the states, which

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01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>allows us more flexibility and freedom. We can do what

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01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>we want in our individual states. If it's not a

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01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.359
<v Speaker 2>power reserve of the federal government over there, Brussels is

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01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>basically taken over. They're basically taking over.

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<v Speaker 7>And what's interesting with this US EU trade deal, which

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<v Speaker 7>was made with Brussels, by the way, is that a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of it will stick because Brussels controls a lot

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01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:33.279
<v Speaker 7>of you know, controls the tariffs, controls what can be

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01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:36.159
<v Speaker 7>sold and you know, to be fair, the Europeans to

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<v Speaker 7>jump up down and scream about America. Yeah, try selling

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01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:45.520
<v Speaker 7>agriculture or wine in France. Try sell America of American ort.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't do it right. The German automobile industry hugely

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01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:54.680
<v Speaker 7>protected because it's important to them. Okay, got it. But

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01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:58.039
<v Speaker 7>what this does is it resets the playing field. It

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01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:04.600
<v Speaker 7>rebalances trade, gets American companies more access to European markets.

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<v Speaker 7>Now here's where we're going to have to take away

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01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:12.920
<v Speaker 7>and see approaches. It requires Europe to buy more American stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>But will they good question?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the devil's in the details, and keep your popcorn

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01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>out and see what events unfold as we move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we have something that they don't have, affordable

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01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>liquid natural gas, then they'll buy it from us. In

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<v Speaker 2>a capitalist market where you know, laws of supplying the

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01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:34.800
<v Speaker 2>man just actually dominate rather than trade rules, regulations and tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>If we've got something they want, they will naturally come

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<v Speaker 2>and buy it from us.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and Brian, you know what happened in Europe is

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<v Speaker 7>you could frack in Europe. Netherlands, the Groniken fields were

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01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:48.560
<v Speaker 7>shut down, the North seafields for oil and gas shut down.

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<v Speaker 7>This was their way of burn. This is akin to

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<v Speaker 7>burning the Viking boats on the beast, right, And if

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01:36:56.039 --> 01:36:59.079
<v Speaker 7>we just don't use this stuff, something else will pop up. Well,

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01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:02.720
<v Speaker 7>now they're realized that something else was actually Russian oil

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01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:07.079
<v Speaker 7>and gas. That's not vogue these days, So now their

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01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:13.079
<v Speaker 7>economy is contracted significantly. Right, the industrialization of Europe occurred

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01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:15.880
<v Speaker 7>after twenty twenty two, and the price of energy went

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01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:18.039
<v Speaker 7>through the roof, and it went through the roof, and

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01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:20.079
<v Speaker 7>it stayed through the roof because they said, no, we're

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01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:22.199
<v Speaker 7>not going to buy long term contracts. We're gonna buy

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<v Speaker 7>stuff on the spot market because we're not gonna need

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01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.680
<v Speaker 7>it very long. Well, that's the highest price that you

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01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.680
<v Speaker 7>can pay for energy, exactly. And now they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, maybe we ought to get it. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ten twenty thirty year locked in price with America

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<v Speaker 7>for LNG to buy something from US that they used

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01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:43.279
<v Speaker 7>to produce themselves that they personally decided they were going

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01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:45.439
<v Speaker 7>to cut their own throats and shut off, forcing themselves

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01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:47.680
<v Speaker 7>into the position where they now have to buy from US.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, good job, smart move. From Brussels seven twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>It's always great to the low cost because she's got

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<v Speaker 2>access to the gazillions of different opportunities out in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>but working for you, she finds the best for your situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So call Suzette lowsa Camp. You're going to work with

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<v Speaker 2>a person who's the best possible person in the customer

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<v Speaker 2>service business in the mortgage industry, more knowledge than most

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<v Speaker 2>anybody could ever possibly have. She's been doing this for

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<v Speaker 2>more than thirty five years. And thank you Suzette Lows

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<v Speaker 2>the Camp. Wonderful job helping up my daughter and her

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<v Speaker 2>fiance acquire their place just a couple of days working

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<v Speaker 2>with Suzette. They had the financing, secured great rates at

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<v Speaker 2>quick about getting back with you, so you can reach

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<v Speaker 2>e Ka MP Susette dot Low's Camp at CCM dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty five KRC my Heart's yacht Roper.

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine first one forecast the community's gone next several

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<v Speaker 2>days little of no humidity, ya eighty for the highway

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<v Speaker 2>sunny skies Today overnight cleared sixty one for low sunny

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<v Speaker 2>in eighty one. Tomorrow overnight sixty with just a few

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<v Speaker 2>clouds and mostly sunny and dry Sunday with a high

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<v Speaker 2>of eighty three sixty two. Now traffic time.

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<v Speaker 8>heavy spots on the highways North Fans seventy five between

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<v Speaker 8>South Beound two seventy five. Break lights between the Lawrence

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<v Speaker 8>Burg Ramp and the Carrol Cropper Bridge. Chuck Ingram on

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<v Speaker 8>fifty five KRC the talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Station seven thirty two fifty five KRCD Talk Station Hudson

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<v Speaker 2>Dot Org three five Hudson Institute online. You should bring

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<v Speaker 2>him a Gowan from the Hudson Institute. He's in studio.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an energy policy expert and senior fellow with the

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Instituo. Let's move over to India and their dependence on

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<v Speaker 2>Russian oil, how does that impact this whole tariff and

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01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:03.199
<v Speaker 2>negotiations and things that are going on because Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything he can to try to call out Putin

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<v Speaker 2>for his refuse to end this war with Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 2>threatening additional sanctions. So far, Putin's like got his metaphorical

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<v Speaker 2>middle finger rays going yeah, go ahead, try good luck.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>It's really interesting because what allows Russia to continue waging

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01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:31.520
<v Speaker 7>war against Ukraine is not entirely but substantially driven by money.

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<v Speaker 2>Their trade. Oh, we're just talking about trade.

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<v Speaker 7>And China and India are the two largest purchasers of

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<v Speaker 7>Russian oil despite all the sanctions. The EU just announced

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<v Speaker 7>their eighteenth round of sanctions, which is actually targeting part

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<v Speaker 7>of India's refining capacity. And I had some conversations in

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<v Speaker 7>DC this week with the Indian government and talking about

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get a trade deal. They were putting on

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<v Speaker 7>their full dog and pony show to try to avoid

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<v Speaker 7>the Trump sanction, which did not go well, talking about

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<v Speaker 7>how well, yeah, they used to sort of be aligned

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<v Speaker 7>with Russia, but they would say things like, well, our

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<v Speaker 7>line with Russia has the curve has turned downward, while

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<v Speaker 7>our curve with America is increasing. And the bottom line

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<v Speaker 7>is they say, hey, we just go out and buy oil.

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<v Speaker 7>We just buy cheap oil. And you know, Russian oil

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<v Speaker 7>is pretty cheap, yeah, because it's sanctioned, right, But the

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<v Speaker 7>deal is this, they buy more than they need. They

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<v Speaker 7>went in twenty twenty two from really not even purchasing

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<v Speaker 7>Russian oil to now they purchase forty percent of Russian

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<v Speaker 7>oil exports, twice as much as they need. So they

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<v Speaker 7>refine it and sell it back on the market as diesel,

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<v Speaker 7>jet fuel and gasoline. They're whitewashing Russian oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like money laundering. They're laundering it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're making a killing our Indian refined gasoline sales subject

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<v Speaker 2>to a sanction.

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<v Speaker 7>They hadn't been until this last mentioned eighteenth round of sanctions.

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<v Speaker 7>So the EU has sanctioned several refineries and has now said, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>you guys have to prove the origin of the oil

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<v Speaker 7>moving forward. Okay, so they're on it, but it took

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<v Speaker 7>a little while. Yeah, well you can listen. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 7>like the concept of a loophole in the tax code.

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<v Speaker 7>You know it isn't you know if usually it is

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<v Speaker 7>something that they failed to take into account, but you're

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<v Speaker 7>not breaking the law by using it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just exists. There's a hole that allows them to

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<v Speaker 2>evade the tariff because of the way it was structured.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're plugging the hole apparently. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, on one hand, you can say, well, great,

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<v Speaker 7>you guys are being great capitalists. You're buying oil at

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<v Speaker 7>a disaccount. You're making a killing on your refining margins,

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<v Speaker 7>and boy, that's pretty capitalistic. That makes perfect sense to me.

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<v Speaker 7>But what Trump is really saying is, look, the Indian

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<v Speaker 7>market is closed to the US market.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't buy our energy.

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<v Speaker 7>You're dealing in questionable energy products where you know where

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<v Speaker 7>they're coming from, and we want you to buy US energy,

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<v Speaker 7>not Russian.

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<v Speaker 2>Well why are we close to the Indian energy market?

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<v Speaker 2>They made that rule, they said we will not purchase

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<v Speaker 2>US manufactured products.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there are a couple of different reasons. One, they're

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<v Speaker 7>a part of the bricks Nations right, which was formed

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<v Speaker 7>by eleven countries Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Saudi Aradia,

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<v Speaker 7>Egypt and the UAE. So they're sort of on another team.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, that's all well and good, but if they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking out for their own best interest, which anybody does,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were able to compete in the energy market,

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<v Speaker 2>in other words, we had a mechanism whereby we could

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<v Speaker 2>sell our products and beat the Russian price. Right. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>you think they'd buy default? They would want to work

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<v Speaker 2>with us and buy our stuff if it's better for

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<v Speaker 2>them economically.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they would, except that we can't beat the Russia

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<v Speaker 7>price right because Russia doesn't have an e PA.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have I get all that. It's like why

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<v Speaker 2>manufacturer moved to China. They don't have anything by way

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, financially expensive rules and regulations and processes

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<v Speaker 2>in place. That makes perfect sense, but just by way

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<v Speaker 2>of principle, we shouldn't be barred as a supplier at

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<v Speaker 2>the outset that shouldn't even be in place.

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<v Speaker 7>That shouldn't be in place, and a lot of our

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<v Speaker 7>products that we want to sell into India have been

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<v Speaker 7>barred India along with the other bricks countries have also

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<v Speaker 7>been pushing an alternative currency to get away from the dollar.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, but you know, India is in a tough spot,

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<v Speaker 7>right They've relied on they had to rely on Russia

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<v Speaker 7>for military and then this was raised like, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 7>Russia's allies as Russia, Russia hasn't come to the assistance

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<v Speaker 7>of anybody since World War Two, to be honest, when

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<v Speaker 7>their allies faltered number one, number two. And I think

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<v Speaker 7>India realizes that the trickier part is China, which is

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<v Speaker 7>right next door to the neighbor and you know they're trying.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a little bit of let's keep peace in the neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 7>fair enough, mart BRIGERA mcawan seven thirty seven. Right now,

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<v Speaker 7>if you have k see the talk station phone call

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<v Speaker 7>worth making, maybe it'll keep your house from burning down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing. Your house's not burning down. Chimneycare

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<v Speaker 2>Fireplace is stove locally unoperated since nineteen eighty eight eight

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<v Speaker 2>plus with a better business real they know that a

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<v Speaker 2>chimney fire is a bad and dangerous, potentially deadly thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why they're offering the current special wood burning

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<v Speaker 2>sweep and evaluation it's only one hundred and sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>dollars ninety nine cents and for that, the experts a

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<v Speaker 2>Chimneycare fireplace stove, come to your place video camera, inspect

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<v Speaker 2>your entire chimney, making sure that you haven't had a

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<v Speaker 2>prior chimney fire, which typically cracks the lining. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course number chimney fire number two is the one that

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<v Speaker 2>might bring your house down. I guess it's possible in

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<v Speaker 2>chimney fire number one. Regardless, they're bad things. So get

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<v Speaker 2>all that kreosode and that's soap build up swept out

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<v Speaker 2>by a certified chimney sweep. Everything's going to be in sound,

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<v Speaker 2>working order, so you can hit the ground running when

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<v Speaker 2>the temperature's drop down to fireplace temperatures, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can take some comfort you knowing that it's been

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<v Speaker 2>fully inspected by those experts. Two ways to get an

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<v Speaker 2>appoyment first call five one three two four eight ninety

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<v Speaker 2>an apployment online and learn about all the services they

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<v Speaker 2>offer and what's available on the showroom floor. Chimneycareco dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com fifty five car the talk station for the Channel

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<v Speaker 2>nine wetherfoecamps beautiful day to day humidities out of the area.

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<v Speaker 2>We got sunny sky's high of eighties sixty one overnight

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<v Speaker 2>with clear skies. Another sunny day tomorrow with the high

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<v Speaker 2>of eighty one, just a few clouds overnight drop into

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<v Speaker 2>sixty and a sunny Sunday also no humidity high of

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three sixty two. Now traffic time frontly you see

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<v Speaker 2>up Tramfic center.

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<v Speaker 8>nine two two sixty three. That's nine three nine twenty

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<v Speaker 8>two sixty three. North Bend seventy five break rights continue

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<v Speaker 8>to build just the between Buttermilk and downtown and an

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<v Speaker 8>extra five minutes southbound seventy five, though doing fine out

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<v Speaker 8>of Sharonville down to the lateral southbound two seventy five

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<v Speaker 8>break lights on to the Carrol Cropper Chuck Ingram on

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<v Speaker 8>fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Five KRCD talk station bring him a gown from the

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Institute in Studio. Former federal regulator current energy policy

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<v Speaker 2>advisor leads the initiative. An American Energy Security Hudson Institute

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<v Speaker 2>and also a professor at Miami University. Moving over to hydrogen,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to save the world, right Brigan, Oh, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't get the memo.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think of the Hindenburg, you know, that would

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<v Speaker 7>be what most people think about, right when we think

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<v Speaker 7>about hydrogen is that catastrophic accident that pretty much killed

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<v Speaker 7>everybody on board. Right, So how is it different and

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<v Speaker 7>better allegedly as a an energy producer than say what

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<v Speaker 7>we're currently used to, which is maybe fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the idea, and we've been using it for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 7>We talk about a fuel cell at the International Space

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<v Speaker 7>Station or in the Apollo days. Fuel cells are hydrogen based.

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<v Speaker 7>What we're doing is we're burning it to release energy,

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<v Speaker 7>and fuel cells can generate electricity, and as we know,

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<v Speaker 7>everybody on a certain side of the aisle is into electricity, right,

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<v Speaker 7>we got to electrify everything, yeah, uh huh yeah. And

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<v Speaker 7>so it reacts with oxygen. It produces heat and water

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<v Speaker 7>vapor and in fuel cells, hydrogen oxygen react to electrochemically

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<v Speaker 7>and thereby producing electricity, heat and water. That's the idea.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem with it is it takes more energy to

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<v Speaker 7>make hydrogen than it does from just using whatever the

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<v Speaker 7>initial fuel sources to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So quite often hydrogen is made from let's say

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<v Speaker 2>liquid natural gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, you use the liquid natural gas and not

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<v Speaker 2>turned into hydrogen, you get more out of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, So shocking, We can use it's that's called blue

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<v Speaker 7>hydrogen and using steam methane reforming or something called autothermal

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<v Speaker 7>reforming with carbon capture in storage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lord, So by doing that, if you had geothermal,

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<v Speaker 2>if they could drill down far enough to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the high temperatures down below, then you wouldn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, you're producing heat to begin with, because in an

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<v Speaker 7>industrial application we don't really think about this. Let's uh,

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<v Speaker 7>let's go to a an electric power station. We're heating

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<v Speaker 7>water to make steam to turn a turbine that produces electricity. Basically,

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<v Speaker 7>that's that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>So uh, if we can just get that naturally occurring

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<v Speaker 7>from the earth where we don't use any energy and

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<v Speaker 7>we have free steam, that's geothermal. It's very promising, and

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<v Speaker 7>in fact, multiple studies have shown you can drill deep

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<v Speaker 7>enough in certain areas to.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing at all that they're doing right now.

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<v Speaker 7>But Brian, instead, we can make blue hydrogen, and we

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<v Speaker 7>can use two point five times the amount of natural

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<v Speaker 7>gas we would otherwise need. We'll capture the carbon and

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<v Speaker 7>it's called blue hydrogen or or there's a rainbow.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a rainbow. This stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>Green hydrogen is produced most environmentally friendly because we're producing

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<v Speaker 7>it from solar or wind power. Let's see, we've got

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<v Speaker 7>gray hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're getting the power from the solar and

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<v Speaker 2>the wind, like gas production, why not just put that

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<v Speaker 2>into the grid directly, as opposed to transforming it into

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<v Speaker 2>something else. And I presume during that process you lose

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<v Speaker 2>some of the energy you have gotten from the sun

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<v Speaker 2>and the wind turning it into hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly because every physics, every time you go through another step,

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<v Speaker 7>you're losing efficiency and an energy waste, energy, you're interjecting costs.

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<v Speaker 7>That's absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole industrial process that has to be created in

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<v Speaker 2>order to create the hydrogen and that you're taking from

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<v Speaker 2>the source of power, regardless whether it's wind, sol or

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<v Speaker 2>natural gas. Oh, did I mention that.

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<v Speaker 7>There is some debate about this now, But you just

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<v Speaker 7>can't go out into the atmosphere and call hydrogen like

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<v Speaker 7>a dog. It doesn't show up. It's not found by itself.

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<v Speaker 7>It's bound to another chemical which requires energy to split

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<v Speaker 7>it off, and so that's why it's significantly inefficient. But hey, anyway,

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<v Speaker 7>we've got gray hydrogen, we've got brown hydrogen, black hydrogen,

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<v Speaker 7>yellow hydrogen, pink, white, and turquoise. And let me guess

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<v Speaker 7>each and every one of those goes to the exact

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<v Speaker 7>same form of process we just walked through with gas

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<v Speaker 7>or solar wind to produce hydrogen. There's something in between

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<v Speaker 7>that is using up the energy. You're gonna love this one.

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<v Speaker 7>Pink or some people call it purple or red. We're

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<v Speaker 7>using nuclear energy to make hydrogen because that totally makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, some of the stuff's pretty common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all about nukes.

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<v Speaker 12>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Any listens to me knows about it. Small modular reactors

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<v Speaker 2>of the wave of the future, small footprints sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>a tiny little piece of land generating unlimited amounts of electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to convert that electricity into hydrogen to

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<v Speaker 2>make it work. Just hook the damn thing up to

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<v Speaker 2>the grid.

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<v Speaker 7>Problem solved, Yes, and we are working on that, and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if we have time talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Seven fifty one fifty five KRCD talk station. Before we

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<v Speaker 2>get back to Briga McGaw from the Hudson Institute and

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<v Speaker 2>talk Energy policy, notably on the topic of nuclear Let's

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<v Speaker 2>catch yourself as a crime stopper this week Bad Girl

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<v Speaker 2>of the Week. Welcome back Officer Tivity Green from the

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinni Police Department who are looking for Tivity.

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<v Speaker 9>Good morning, Cincinnati Police District one investigators are looking forward

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<v Speaker 9>to Miko Rowley. Miss Raley is wanted for felonious assault,

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<v Speaker 9>sell any drug possession, and misdemeanor falsification. Investigators say during

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<v Speaker 9>a shystoricraw leducation, Miss Raley cut the victim with a knife.

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<v Speaker 9>Tamika Rally Tamika Rally is a female Black She's thirty

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<v Speaker 9>nine years old. She's four seven and one hundred and

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<v Speaker 9>ten pounds. Tamik o'rally has a history of assault and

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<v Speaker 9>disorly conduct, and was last known to live on Coraine

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<v Speaker 9>Avenue in Camp Washington. If anyone has information on where

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<v Speaker 2>You will be eligible for a cash your word, you

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<v Speaker 2>will remain anonymous and let's help this person with anger

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<v Speaker 2>management problems. Get off the street, give the police an assist.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you, Tivity Green and each you and never

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Cinsame Police Department would love what you do

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<v Speaker 2>for the community. We'll be looking for if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see her. Need the information fifty five cars dot

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<v Speaker 2>com on the blog page to bring him down. A

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<v Speaker 2>few more words here. On energy policy, you were pivoting over.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking a little bit about nuclear at the

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<v Speaker 2>tail end of that hydrogen creation conversation. You had a

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<v Speaker 2>few comments you wanted to interject.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was just going to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I think there has been a huge resurgence in the

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<v Speaker 7>interest in nuclear power, driven by the need for AI

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<v Speaker 7>AI energy security. A point I made in France earlier

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<v Speaker 7>last month was the world has never used a less energy,

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<v Speaker 7>only more. And actually France knows this because they're almost

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<v Speaker 7>eighty percent nuclear power now. And you know when Spain

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<v Speaker 7>in the middle of the day the clouds game and

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<v Speaker 7>the wind stopped and they lost their grid, it was

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<v Speaker 7>actually exporting nuclear power from France and allowed Spain to

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<v Speaker 7>restart their power grid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Pennsylvania producing enough electricity to cover the

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<v Speaker 2>Northeast region who has not been able to produce enough

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<v Speaker 2>of its own electricity. It's kind of sorry state of affairs,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, after a three mile island, more recently Fukushima,

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<v Speaker 7>the Chernobyl thing, people kind of got you know, don't

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<v Speaker 7>know about nuclear power. But we are now up to

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<v Speaker 7>a Gen three plus design. We just put the first

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<v Speaker 7>two down in Georgia, the Vocal plant. These are one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred percent passive, meaning if you cut all the power,

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<v Speaker 7>it fails safe to safe. And we're only enriching nuclear

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<v Speaker 7>fuel to three to five percent now, which is much

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<v Speaker 7>lower level than before. Remember that conversation about Iran needing

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<v Speaker 7>sixty plus per Yeah, that's I'm raising the flag on

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<v Speaker 7>that one. But and SMRs are even better because these

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<v Speaker 7>small modular reactors are built in factories. We can we

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you approve the license. The problem in America

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<v Speaker 7>is every reactor is different and it goes through a

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<v Speaker 7>different licensing.

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<v Speaker 2>These are like legos. These are like legos.

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<v Speaker 7>So we woke up one day and went, huh, you

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<v Speaker 7>know what, why don't we get in the car approved

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<v Speaker 7>and then we'll just wrap like hat it exactly and

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<v Speaker 7>we don't have to go through all this, bro So.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing that.

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<v Speaker 7>They can be deployed a different places, they can be

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<v Speaker 7>stacked on top of each other, expanded, and we're looking

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<v Speaker 7>at some of those heading out there pretty quickly, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's going to be a real game changer.

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<v Speaker 7>They last fifty plus years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they've been powering America's military ships since the nineteen fifties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard any problems with that, have you, Brigham?

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<v Speaker 16>No, we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh huh every submarine, Yeah, every aircraft carrier yep, and

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<v Speaker 7>the one that I landed on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nuclear powered, I know. And they're really fast too.

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<v Speaker 2>They are fast, and they're small. You can fit one

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<v Speaker 2>inside of a ship. Look, hey, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be giant. They don't have to have giant cooling towers

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<v Speaker 2>on them, et cetera, et cetera. And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't build them in its tsunami zone. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about things like Fukushima happening. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>what idiot was in charge of site selection on that one. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they had a history of tsunamis in Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean going back thousands of years. Duh.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And so you know, concerns about uh where you

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<v Speaker 7>place them, the security of the facility, cyber stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we got to deal with all of that, of course

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<v Speaker 7>you do. And we have to find a place to

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<v Speaker 7>uh put the spent fuel, although some of the new

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<v Speaker 7>reactor fuels one hundred percent. We're into recycling, right, I

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<v Speaker 7>know you can be one hundred percent recycle the fuel.

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<v Speaker 2>No mass such a small mass of quote unquote waste collectively,

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<v Speaker 2>it's yes, just infinitesimal.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and I don't know if your listeners have heard

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<v Speaker 7>this or not, but even with the old stuff, and

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<v Speaker 7>even with contaminated waste water and other things, all of

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<v Speaker 7>it would fit six feet high on a football field.

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<v Speaker 7>We're not talking for the entire country.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that much brigha mcgallon. Armed with your facts

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<v Speaker 2>that fly in the face of global warming alarmist, I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you coming on the program. And doing that. You're pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always welcome here, Brigham. We'll be looking for your podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Charged Conversations produced by executive producer Joe Strek at the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five CARSY Morning Show and let him produce your podcast. Brigham,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir for all the work that you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks coming back on real soon, my friend. Enjoy your weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Don'k away. Bill Sites on property taxes. He was appointed

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<v Speaker 2>by Governor de Wine to head the commission to look

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<v Speaker 2>into ways that they can help us deal with our

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes after vetoing two measures in the budget that

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<v Speaker 2>would have helped us deal to some degree with our

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes. Bill Sites up next.

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<v Speaker 3>Still we called the twelve day War, I suppose that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we were nicknaming.

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<v Speaker 1>And already another update to the top of.

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<v Speaker 2>The hour, the use of military force.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five car see the talk station.

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<v Speaker 3>This report is sponsored.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi's Ryan Thomas. Please to welcome to the fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>KRC Morning Show former House Minority Speaker Bill Sites, who

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<v Speaker 2>now apparently is going to be leading the panel with

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<v Speaker 2>former Congressman Pat Saberry to help maybe resolve the property

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<v Speaker 2>tax issue we have going on in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>As my listeners are well aware, we just did the

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<v Speaker 2>budget in the state of Ohio contained three provisions which

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<v Speaker 2>I have been referring to as sort of baby steps

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<v Speaker 2>toward property tax reform to help less than the burden

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<v Speaker 2>of the property tax that we're all facing for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't necessarily know why. Maybe Bill can address

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<v Speaker 2>the question. Governor to Wine vetoed all three of them,

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<v Speaker 2>which brought the legislative branch back. They overrode one of

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<v Speaker 2>the three, but tabled the other because it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have the votes to override the veto. They

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<v Speaker 2>may revote on that at some point, but in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>Governor de Wine formed the Property Tax Reform Working Group,

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<v Speaker 2>which Bill Sites is a member of. Bill, you congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>on the apployment. I guess. Let me start out by

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<v Speaker 2>wondering a question that a lot of folks have been asking,

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<v Speaker 2>is it really necessary? My understanding is they've been working

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<v Speaker 2>on property tax reform measures and ideas and formulating lists

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<v Speaker 2>of them for well over a year now, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where those three that were incorporated in the budget came from.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you know why to Wine vetoed them and

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<v Speaker 2>why we need to continue discussing this. Hasn't this work

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<v Speaker 2>been done already? Bill Sites Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's start with the fact that, yes, there has been

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<v Speaker 5>work done by the legislator branch. Yes, they studied the issue.

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<v Speaker 5>There were, however, no members of local government on the

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<v Speaker 5>Legislative Study Committee. The Legislative Study Committee did come out

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<v Speaker 5>with recommendations. There are twenty one recommendations, many of which

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<v Speaker 5>contain the kernels of good ideas. But they said in

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<v Speaker 5>their report I'm quoting some proposals may contradict others end quote,

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<v Speaker 5>and they made no effort to prioritize among the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>one recommendations which ones should be pursued. So we view

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<v Speaker 5>our job first as expanding upon those twenty one recommendations,

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<v Speaker 5>putting meat on the bones, and trying to deliver as

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<v Speaker 5>much property tax relief as we can without breaking the

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<v Speaker 5>bank of the state and putting too much state money

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<v Speaker 5>behind it. Why did the wind detailed three? Well, number

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<v Speaker 5>one you probably have to ask him, but to my understanding,

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<v Speaker 5>the reason was that he thought the measures were flawed

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<v Speaker 5>in their language and that they created too much uncertainty

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<v Speaker 5>and fiscal stress on units of local government. I'll give you,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, I'll give you an example. They voted

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<v Speaker 5>to eliminate are They voted to prevent emergency levees and

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<v Speaker 5>substitute levees from being excluded from the twenty mil floor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>that's fine, but they want to apply that principle to

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<v Speaker 5>existing levees, and I think we have a problem with

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<v Speaker 5>us because it's tantamount to changing the rules in the

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<v Speaker 5>middle of the game. If the levee is a five

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<v Speaker 5>year levee and it still has three years to run,

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<v Speaker 5>it should be allowed to run out and expire before

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<v Speaker 5>we go ahead and change the calculation of the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>mil floor. Another example, they voted to totally eliminate emergency levees,

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<v Speaker 5>replacement levees, and substitute levees. I'm for eliminating replacement levees,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm for eliminating substitute levees, but I'm really not for

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<v Speaker 5>eliminating emergency levees. Because the Property Taxpayer Coalition said, and

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<v Speaker 5>I quote that should be limited, that we should limit

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<v Speaker 5>the definition, okay, to a true emergency and then limited

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<v Speaker 5>to a certain period of time. I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>There could be true emergencies. For example, what if the

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<v Speaker 5>Kerk County floods happened in Ohio for example, what about

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<v Speaker 5>some natural disaster, for example, what if the levee did

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<v Speaker 5>not pass, the district would be thrown into fiscal emergency

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<v Speaker 5>and subject to state takeover. So I think we can

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<v Speaker 5>do what they wanted, but make a slight.

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<v Speaker 12>Change to that language.

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<v Speaker 11>I view.

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<v Speaker 5>Our job is building upon what the legislature has done.

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<v Speaker 5>We are not trying to undo it. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>refine it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I guess one of the concerns has got to

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<v Speaker 2>be looming large. Is this repeal all property tax constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>amendment that's they're circulating right now, trying to get it

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<v Speaker 2>on the ballot. Does this work that you are working on,

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<v Speaker 2>and do you anticipate the work getting completed and giving

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<v Speaker 2>us some property tax relief through any whatever measures are

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<v Speaker 2>presented in advance of that, Because that's looming large, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's possible that the voters in Ohio, if nothing's done,

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<v Speaker 2>might very well vote for that, and then you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about chaos. I'm not quite even sure how that would be,

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<v Speaker 2>how it would work in the aftermath.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's an excellent point. The governor has given us

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<v Speaker 5>a deadline of September thirtieth, that you come up with

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<v Speaker 5>our enhanced recommendations. That's a very tight timeframe, so we

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<v Speaker 5>are working very diligently to meet that objective. That's number one.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason why he picked September thirty if is the

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<v Speaker 5>legislature is coming back into session in early October, and

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<v Speaker 5>so if they care to take up our recommendations, there

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<v Speaker 5>would be plenty of time to do it. The repeal

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<v Speaker 5>of the property tax initiative would not be on the

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<v Speaker 5>ballot until November twenty twenty six at the earliest, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're right, it would cause absolute chaos because the property

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<v Speaker 5>taxes in Ohio. I'm out up to twenty three b

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<v Speaker 5>with a billion dollars, all of which goes to local services.

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<v Speaker 5>None of that money goes to the state. It is

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<v Speaker 5>for local police and fire and parks, and senior citizens services,

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<v Speaker 5>and mental health services and developmental disability services and schools.

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<v Speaker 5>So eliminating twenty three billion dollars would obviously do great

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<v Speaker 5>damage to all of those local services on which people depend.

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<v Speaker 5>And it would create another problem, what do you replace

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<v Speaker 5>that revenue? Gest you would need it. If we've done

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<v Speaker 5>great work, Brian and cutting the income tax I was

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<v Speaker 5>there in twenty four years. We took the income tax

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<v Speaker 5>bracket in Ohio that used to be nine brackets and

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<v Speaker 5>a match tax rate of over eight percent. During my tenure,

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<v Speaker 5>we took it down to two brackets, three point five

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<v Speaker 5>percent and two point seven five percent. And so we

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<v Speaker 5>made tremendous strides there, and the legislature just took another

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<v Speaker 5>great stride forward and cutting it to a flat tax

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<v Speaker 5>of two point seven five percent. I don't see the

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<v Speaker 5>legislature being at all interested in raising income taxes again

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<v Speaker 5>when we are so cloked to having achieved that goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and what of a practice? Well, real que of

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<v Speaker 2>the problems with income taxes? Only property or income tax

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<v Speaker 2>only people who work are paying them, and property taxes

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<v Speaker 2>only people who own property are are are are paying them.

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<v Speaker 2>But yet you have a whole host of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are enjoying the benefits of all these services that are

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<v Speaker 2>funded by property taxes that aren't paying them. How about

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've heard this issue. I've even thrown it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Increasing the sales tax a little bit, so literally everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who buys anything in the state of Ohio is participating

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<v Speaker 2>in paying for government services. The problem that presents for

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<v Speaker 2>me is that's a giant pile of money that ends

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<v Speaker 2>up in Columbus that will be responsible for choosing and

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<v Speaker 2>picking how much money goes to any given entity.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a very good observation. And let me just

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<v Speaker 5>say this, you would need a statewide sales tax rate

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<v Speaker 5>of something approaching twenty percent if you were to replace

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<v Speaker 5>that twenty three billion dollars with an increased sales tax.

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<v Speaker 5>And for those of us who live here in Hamilton

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<v Speaker 5>County on the border to Kentucky, on the border to Indiana,

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<v Speaker 5>people would vote with their feet and buy their goods

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<v Speaker 5>and services in Kentucky. They would not pay twenty percent

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<v Speaker 5>in Ohio. In general, I agree with you consumption taxes

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<v Speaker 5>are preferable to income and property taxes. But frankly, I

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<v Speaker 5>always thought the income tax was the principle evil to

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<v Speaker 5>be avoided because we've had property taxes in Ohio since

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<v Speaker 5>the eighteen thirties. The income tax didn't arise until Governor

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<v Speaker 5>Goes Illigan brought it to us in the early seventies.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, we've viewed that as the principal target. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot we can do, a lot we can recommend,

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<v Speaker 5>For example, why don't we let folks who are senior

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<v Speaker 5>citizens and disabled homeowners, why don't we give them some

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<v Speaker 5>tax relief, either in the form of an enhanced homestead

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<v Speaker 5>exemption or in the form of some sort of a

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<v Speaker 5>deal where you pay up to x percent of their

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<v Speaker 5>income and anything on top of that the state will

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<v Speaker 5>pick up, perhaps with the obligation on the part of

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<v Speaker 5>the homeowner that when they die or move out of

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<v Speaker 5>the house, they have to pay it back. So that

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<v Speaker 5>would be kind of a no cost option to the

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<v Speaker 5>state while providing relief to the homeowner during the homeowner's

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<v Speaker 5>occupancy of that house. There's an idea for you. How

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<v Speaker 5>about letting people instead of paying their taxes in big

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<v Speaker 5>chunks twice a year January and June, saying we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to give you a monthly payment plan. Yes, there might

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<v Speaker 5>have to be some interest factor applied to that, because

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<v Speaker 5>you're not getting all the money up front. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think one of the reasons people hate property taxes is

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<v Speaker 5>you get this job smackingly large bill twice a year.

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<v Speaker 5>If it was spread out into more manageable payments, you

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<v Speaker 5>would probably have fewer delinquencies and less outrage over property taxes.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a whole lot of great ideas like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And our group contains school superintendents, county commissioners, county auditors,

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<v Speaker 5>county treasurers, mayors, business people like Congressman te Berry, and

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<v Speaker 5>me as a former legislator and tax payer and property

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<v Speaker 5>owner for twenty four years in the state legislature. So

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to do our best to build on what

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<v Speaker 5>the legislature has done, to suggest refinement of some of

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<v Speaker 5>what they have done, and to agree with them that

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<v Speaker 5>more needs to be done. We totally agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a great bill that's pending up there called House

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<v Speaker 5>Bill one eighty six. I heard one of the leaders

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<v Speaker 5>in the House say that bill has to pass. I

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<v Speaker 5>completely agree that bill has to pass. So there's not

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<v Speaker 5>as much division between the legislature and at least me

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<v Speaker 5>as might be perceived, I agree with much of what

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<v Speaker 5>they want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So fair enough, Bill sides, appreciate your insight on this.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll very much look forward with bated breath the reforms

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<v Speaker 2>that you recommend and how quickly the legislative branch acts

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<v Speaker 2>on them. Of course, you know it, I know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody in Ohio knows that our property tax bills just

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<v Speaker 2>keep going up and up and up, and we're all

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<v Speaker 2>demanding some form of relief. I wish you all the

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<v Speaker 2>best in the world getting that relief to the property

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer bill.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks, Brian, appreciate it. It'll be a large task, but

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<v Speaker 5>we're willing to try to get that done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm certain you are. Bill. Look forward to talking with

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<v Speaker 2>you again when you get something out on paper. Channel

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<v Speaker 2>and I first way to one of morecasts is gone

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<v Speaker 2>next several days anywhere, you know. I can't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a sunny eighty degree high day to day,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful clear and sixty one overnight Sunday tomorrow eighty one

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<v Speaker 2>for the high. Few clowns over night now to sixty

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<v Speaker 2>and a well sunny Sunday to the high of eighty

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<v Speaker 2>three sixty three degrees Right now traffic time.

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<v Speaker 8>and south two seventy five continues slow onto the Carroll

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<v Speaker 8>Crawford Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>It is eight twenty one, fifty five ker CD talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a wonderful weekend. Who gets some

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<v Speaker 2>good plans? Love my Friday? Especially? Isn't it nice we

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<v Speaker 2>get a reprieve from the press of humidity and heat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yay oh no. Global Cooling Channel nine says the average

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<v Speaker 2>early August temperature is eighty six. It's only gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>eighty today, eighty one tomorrow, and eighty three on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Global Cooling over the phos we go, Dave, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 14>Good morning. I have a very simple question that I

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<v Speaker 14>would have loved for mister Sites to answer. If I

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<v Speaker 14>is a property tax owner, have paid off my mortgage,

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<v Speaker 14>so nothing on my property anymore? Why should I continue

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<v Speaker 14>to pay tax on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think for the reasons he articulated, we've been

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<v Speaker 2>relying on property tax now since the eighteen hundreds to

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<v Speaker 2>fund all of the local services that we think we

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<v Speaker 2>need from government. Money's got to come from some place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and some people keep voting for them.

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<v Speaker 14>Right, I understand that. But if I own my property outright,

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<v Speaker 14>why should that I continue to pay tax on something.

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<v Speaker 4>That I own?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, that is light out against the constitution and what

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<v Speaker 14>are founding fathers believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can make that argument, but the reality is,

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<v Speaker 2>because as a homeowner in a given township or political district,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the benefit of the school system, the parks,

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02:14:22.119 --> 02:14:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the recreation, the fire department, the police department. Somebody's got

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for it. You're getting the benefits by having

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<v Speaker 2>them there, so you, as a citizen of the community responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I say, you know, the consumption tax is

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<v Speaker 2>a better way of looking at it. Everyone benefits from

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<v Speaker 2>all these things that are funded by property tax ergo,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone should be paying for them. But his point was,

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't, but I haven't done the math on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why out Loud said the sales tax, because that

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<v Speaker 2>obviously would impose the burden on everybody who buys something.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you'd have to raise the twenty percent. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't ever heard a number prior to my conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Sites that will be required to make up for

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<v Speaker 2>the loss of the so called twenty three billion dollars

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02:15:00.239 --> 02:15:03.039
<v Speaker 2>in tax revenue gotten from the property tax. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that figures actually, Dave, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm a libertarian like you and I and this is

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<v Speaker 14>I'm some of this is just gonna stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I share your philosophy about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>own my house. My wife and I own our house outright,

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02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:21.439
<v Speaker 2>we have for a number of years. I own it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't because of what your point is, Because

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't pay the property tax, they can come

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<v Speaker 2>in and convict me, or put a lean on my house,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, take legal steps because of my fare

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02:15:30.239 --> 02:15:32.479
<v Speaker 2>to pay property taxes. There in lies a challenge, you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, and it really is a factual reality that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really own your property because you're always subject

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<v Speaker 2>to this financial obligation. But again, moving away from that,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that conceptually, but I do get the

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<v Speaker 2>benefits of the Simms Township patrols. I do get the

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02:15:48.279 --> 02:15:50.680
<v Speaker 2>benefit of the fire department. I do get the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the schools. My kids went to the Loveland School

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02:15:52.720 --> 02:15:55.640
<v Speaker 2>District with my taxes funded in part. And you know

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02:15:55.800 --> 02:15:59.000
<v Speaker 2>they're successful adults at this point, or at least semi successful,

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02:15:59.039 --> 02:16:02.840
<v Speaker 2>depending upon your But you know, somebody's got to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for that stuff. But the fact the challenge though, and

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to the point I made with Bill Sitz.

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<v Speaker 2>The challenge is, let's say you legitimately could substitute with

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<v Speaker 2>a reasonable increase in something like a sales tax. Let's

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02:16:14.000 --> 02:16:18.520
<v Speaker 2>say a percent would actually cover the nut. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know the problem is all that money ends up in Columbus.

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus collects all that sales tax revenue, and then they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the ones subject to the feeding frenzy

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<v Speaker 2>in the lobbyists and every municipality in the entire state

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02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:35.120
<v Speaker 2>going to Columbus and trying to argue for why their district,

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<v Speaker 2>their schools, their fire department, or whatever is worthy of

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02:16:38.120 --> 02:16:40.879
<v Speaker 2>more money or not, as the case may be. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we would have put a levy on, but you took

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<v Speaker 2>that ability away for most You got rid of the

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02:16:43.920 --> 02:16:46.159
<v Speaker 2>property tax, and now we got a sales tax. We

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<v Speaker 2>need twenty million dollars or our schools are going to

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02:16:48.600 --> 02:16:52.000
<v Speaker 2>shut down in line with a whole bunch of other

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02:16:52.040 --> 02:16:55.559
<v Speaker 2>school districts, fire departments or police departments, whatever, standing a

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02:16:55.559 --> 02:16:58.319
<v Speaker 2>line around a corner in Columbus, waiting to make the

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02:16:58.360 --> 02:17:01.760
<v Speaker 2>same damn argument over a finite supply of money collected

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<v Speaker 2>from the proper of the sales tax. Complicated. Yeah, you

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02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:07.440
<v Speaker 2>think it's complicated. Now, if you went down that road,

2529
02:17:07.479 --> 02:17:09.680
<v Speaker 2>look how complicated it would be. And look how much

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02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:11.760
<v Speaker 2>power that would put in the hands of our elected

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02:17:11.760 --> 02:17:15.280
<v Speaker 2>officials and Columbus to be the ones making the determination

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<v Speaker 2>on who gets how much. That's a frightening increase in

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02:17:20.000 --> 02:17:23.280
<v Speaker 2>their power, plus at a massive increase in the amount

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02:17:23.319 --> 02:17:25.559
<v Speaker 2>of work that they will be responsible for doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>the headaches that would be created among our elected officials.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going down that road. I guarantee you appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the call, man, I mean, this is this worthwhile exchange

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<v Speaker 2>of ideas. We're working on it right now. Obviously, eight

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, fifty five KC the talk station. Feel free

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<v Speaker 2>to call. Do you have other local stories? Either way

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<v Speaker 2>we go, It's okay with me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is fifty five KARC an iHeartRadio station at Duke Energy.

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<v Speaker 2>clouds every night down to sixty and a sunny Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>The talk station A third down a Friday Abbey Friday

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<v Speaker 2>five one, three, seven four fifty two to three talk stirring

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02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:47.000
<v Speaker 2>up the controversy about property tax has got a few

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02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:48.559
<v Speaker 2>callers online. We're going to start in the order in

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02:18:48.559 --> 02:18:50.840
<v Speaker 2>which they received, which means, Bill, you are first, Thanks

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02:18:50.840 --> 02:18:51.680
<v Speaker 2>for calling this morning.

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<v Speaker 12>Why are you doing today?

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02:18:54.879 --> 02:18:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Doing great? Bill? What's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 12>You know? Uh? Yes, tax or income tax. Rather, we

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02:19:03.159 --> 02:19:05.799
<v Speaker 12>might look to Florida and Tennessee to see how they're

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02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:09.760
<v Speaker 12>handling their other taxes because they're doing well without without

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<v Speaker 12>a sales or without am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I kicked myself. That was a recorded interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I recorded that a couple of days ago after the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kicked myself at the time when we were

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02:19:18.120 --> 02:19:20.079
<v Speaker 2>done with the interview that I didn't ask about that

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<v Speaker 2>if part of the study group was actually looking at

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<v Speaker 2>other states that have no income tax and how they

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<v Speaker 2>deal with property taxes. And I think, I guess I

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02:19:27.920 --> 02:19:29.639
<v Speaker 2>might imagine there's some states out there that don't have

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02:19:29.680 --> 02:19:31.760
<v Speaker 2>any property tax and how they deal with it. But yeah,

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02:19:31.799 --> 02:19:36.319
<v Speaker 2>that's a worthy exercise. I would say, definitely, Bill Florida.

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<v Speaker 12>Is looking to elemate their property taxes too.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I guess they generate a lot of revenue with

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02:19:43.000 --> 02:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>income and other taxes in order to well close the gap.

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<v Speaker 2>And I imagine they probably don't have as many state

2583
02:19:50.399 --> 02:19:53.360
<v Speaker 2>run services. You know, we always think we can't live

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02:19:53.399 --> 02:19:56.200
<v Speaker 2>without this service that service, but every year we just

2585
02:19:56.280 --> 02:19:58.600
<v Speaker 2>keep growing and growing and there's just one more thing

2586
02:19:58.639 --> 02:20:01.799
<v Speaker 2>that government runs that need to be funded. So yeah,

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02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:04.079
<v Speaker 2>that's a worthy analysis. I'm glad you called and brought

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<v Speaker 2>that up, Bill, and I hope they do engage in

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02:20:06.040 --> 02:20:09.479
<v Speaker 2>that process. Man on the same topic, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 12>I still would like to have Simms Township see too.

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<v Speaker 2>He got my vote, thank you for My wife is

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<v Speaker 2>listening right now and I'm sure she's nodding an approval. Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Let's see what Jeff's got. Jeff, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the Morning Show. Happy Friday to you.

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<v Speaker 17>Hey, yeah, you doing Brian. I'm a long time listener,

2596
02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:32.079
<v Speaker 17>first time caller.

2597
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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm a Florida resident and I listened to your show.

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<v Speaker 17>iHeartRadio a pre regular basis. But then comment on the

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<v Speaker 17>comment on the sales tax thing is basically you're talking

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<v Speaker 17>about Columbus getting all the sales tax money.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, nothing new here that you don't know.

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<v Speaker 17>But Hamilton County can throw a tax on top of

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<v Speaker 17>the sales tax, as could the individual municipalities to generate,

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<v Speaker 17>so you wouldn't necessarily have to go Yeah, put all

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<v Speaker 17>that central power in Columbus true by ditributing the sales

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<v Speaker 17>tax appropriately.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get that as a concept, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I should have react to the site's comment about going

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<v Speaker 2>to drive you know, we in Hamilton County. Yes, can

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<v Speaker 2>drive to Kentucky or Indiana to conveniently buy something at

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<v Speaker 2>a lower sales tax rate. But what are the people

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<v Speaker 2>in Franklin County do I mean They're going to drive,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, three hours to get to a different state.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Hamilton County. If our commissioners decided we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get the revenue in Hamilton County, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to raise a sales tax from seven and a half

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever to nine, then folks in Hamilton County to

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<v Speaker 2>drive to Claremont County, Warren County, or Butler County. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's your buying habits. You got that right. They

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<v Speaker 2>also change the where they want to live habits in

2623
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<v Speaker 2>that regard to people might choose to move out of

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton County and drive.

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<v Speaker 17>To Claremont countyas have consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>Right amen? Brother? Have we learned that I live.

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<v Speaker 17>In Florida, I'm actively employed and I work for Fifth

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<v Speaker 17>Third Bank, and guess what, I don't pay income tax?

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you guys, are benefits and you seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing quite well in Florida too.

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<v Speaker 17>We seen I live in South Florida, which obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 17>is a very conservative area.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like Cincinnati. South Naples, Florida is like the second

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<v Speaker 2>city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 17>Did we even have a skyline? And so yes, I definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Man, I'm tickled that you listen from Florida. Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Appreciate your comments as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for calling in. Feel free to do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get to Chuck now, Chuck, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Show. Happy Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey Brian, thanks taking my call. Hope you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, and I hope I can say you can

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<v Speaker 2>say the same.

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<v Speaker 18>Absolutely some of I switch gears a little bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 18>still not getting over this incident in downtown Cincinnati last

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<v Speaker 18>weekend with the jazz festival. I know they don't want

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<v Speaker 18>to correlate the two, but obviously for the last seven

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<v Speaker 18>or eight years, I just watched this YouTube and Matt

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<v Speaker 18>Walsh breaks it down very well. For the last seven

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<v Speaker 18>or eight years, they have pushed the African American or

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<v Speaker 18>black agenda only shopping at at those retail stores. This

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<v Speaker 18>has been going on for quite some time, so it's

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<v Speaker 18>all correlated. And you know, I bought a burner this

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<v Speaker 18>week because I want to make sure when I go downtown,

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<v Speaker 18>me and my loved ones are protected.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be careful with that burner. I've seen some online

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<v Speaker 2>videos that suggest in some circumstances, most notably when drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and narcotics are involved, may not have sufficient stopping power

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<v Speaker 2>or impact to accomplish your objective. Just FYI, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good point. Yeah, a good point. Yeah, I understand your decision.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember it doesn't work in all cases. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only reason you know. That's why I'm a regular

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<v Speaker 2>concealed carry holder, because you know it's deadly in all

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<v Speaker 2>circumstances as long as you know how to properly use it.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your comments. So, Chuck and I got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of more developments to talk about along those lines. Pause.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back in here in a moment. It's eight

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five right now at fifty five KRC Detalk station.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty five KRC.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your channel nine first onenty one to forecast. So

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<v Speaker 2>we've gotten rid of the humidity for the next several days. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be dry conditions, mostly sunny day

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<v Speaker 2>to day. High have eighty sixty one overnight with clear

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<v Speaker 2>sky sunnay and eighty one tomorrow, maybe a few clouds

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<v Speaker 2>overnight sixty for the low and an eighty three high

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday again with sunny sky's sixty four degrees. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get a traffic updates.

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<v Speaker 8>You see a traffic center, You see how wake Cloud

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<v Speaker 8>Call five one three nine three nine two two sixty three.

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<v Speaker 8>That's nine three nine twenty two sixty three. Broken down

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<v Speaker 8>blocks the left lane as you come out of the

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<v Speaker 8>tunnel on northbound seventy one. So traffic events slow off

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<v Speaker 8>of Fort Washington Way southbound seventy five. Just a few

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<v Speaker 8>break lights between the Reagan Highway and the lateral Chuck

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<v Speaker 8>Ingram on tifty five krs the talk station, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty nine, Happy Friday. You feel for your call five

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2692
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<v Speaker 2>when people from out of state listen to the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Just tickles me to death. So opportunity to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you live right here in town. Get your

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<v Speaker 2>stream right there from her cell phone while she works

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. Anyway, Tech Friday with Dave had her

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<v Speaker 2>on earlier. Got some great subjects with Dave as always

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<v Speaker 2>bring him account full hour of conversation about energy policy

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<v Speaker 2>and studio. My conversation there on the podcast page with

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<v Speaker 2>Bill sites on property taxes fifty five KRC dot com. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I started out the program talking about this follow up

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<v Speaker 2>from Victoria Parks councilwoman Parks who said on a social

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<v Speaker 2>media post that the the at least the two that

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<v Speaker 2>we know of that got the beat down. She said

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<v Speaker 2>they deserved a beatdown. Notice the word they they deserved

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<v Speaker 2>a beat down. Now you've probably seen the viral video

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<v Speaker 2>that's gone global. We don't at this point a moment

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<v Speaker 2>in time, know exactly who or what started the altercation

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<v Speaker 2>between the two guys that were obviously having a dispute

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<v Speaker 2>with each other that led to this violent melee, including

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of people that had no connection apparently

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<v Speaker 2>with that argument. Her response to the controversy that she

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<v Speaker 2>stirred up by making that just really awful post, they

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<v Speaker 2>deserved a beat down. She turned to freedom of speech

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<v Speaker 2>in this country. She said, we have freedom of speech. However,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not run into a crowded theater and scream fire,

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<v Speaker 2>and that suggested that that's the Supreme Court Justice Oliver

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<v Speaker 2>Wendel Holmes back in nineteen nineteen pointed that out in

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<v Speaker 2>connection with the First Amendment, that yelling fire in a

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<v Speaker 2>crowded theater isn't protected. Why because you might start a

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<v Speaker 2>may a rush for the doors, people might get trampled.

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<v Speaker 2>You're creating chaos through a statement like that, and there

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<v Speaker 2>may not be enough time for people to interject additional

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<v Speaker 2>speech into the conversation to point out that no, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there isn't a fire. But now see this is her

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<v Speaker 2>failure to understand and concepts of simple rather concepts of

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<v Speaker 2>law using the fire in a crowded room analogy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe she thinks that maybe the N word

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<v Speaker 2>was used her comment he was in a crowded he

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<v Speaker 2>referring to the guy that got the beat down, most

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<v Speaker 2>notably focusing on the guy, the guy that was involved

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<v Speaker 2>the initial altercation, the guy who got knocked down in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the street and started getting kicked in

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02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the head, and in the chest and the stomach, and

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<v Speaker 2>getting punched, continuing and repeatedly, in spite of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he couldn't defend himself. He was in a crowded

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<v Speaker 2>theater and he screamed fire. She said, there are unintended consequences,

2739
02:27:41.719 --> 02:27:44.360
<v Speaker 2>but that's what happens. So she's defending the beat down

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<v Speaker 2>because of maybe the utterance of a word that is controversial,

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02:27:48.159 --> 02:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the yelling fire in a crowded theater. That does not

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<v Speaker 2>excuse you from committing criminal acts against the person who

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02:27:57.120 --> 02:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>uttered the word fire. As I pointed out this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in a crowded room and someone yells fire

2745
02:28:02.719 --> 02:28:04.879
<v Speaker 2>and people get up, that does not give you the

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<v Speaker 2>right to start punching the person next to you in

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<v Speaker 2>the face or shooting them, or committing violent acts against them.

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<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to do with the word that was uttered.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no justification. Your life is not under a threat.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not entitled to use violence and maybe even deadly

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<v Speaker 2>force in response to the utterance of any word or syllable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now pivoting over to another very charged and well strong

2753
02:28:31.600 --> 02:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>reaction to this idiot, I will call him in Ross Township.

2754
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<v Speaker 2>One of the trustees now has refused to resign because

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<v Speaker 2>he used a racial slur on social media. While discussing

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<v Speaker 2>the violence downtown. David Young shared a video what police

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<v Speaker 2>are calling a violent attack downtown Sunday. That's the one

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<v Speaker 2>we've been speaking about. Quote. I can only read part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Ten on one is n word fun close quote.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot defend that statement. That stateman since been removed

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<v Speaker 2>from his social media account. He's refusing to step down

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<v Speaker 2>in his position as trustee in spite of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody's outraged by it, and I think expressing outrage

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02:29:12.360 --> 02:29:15.239
<v Speaker 2>against that is fine. Does his utterance of that word,

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<v Speaker 2>essentially yelling fire in a crowded room on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>allow us, maybe his fellow trustees to start wailing on

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02:29:22.360 --> 02:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>him and physically assaulting him, battering him. No, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we condemn him with words, Absolutely, That's what's being

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot on social media. That's why they're calling

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<v Speaker 2>for his resignation. But it doesn't prohibit criminal or doesn't

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02:29:44.120 --> 02:29:50.079
<v Speaker 2>allow for criminal activity in response to it. Clearly where

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria Park's argument and suggestion just flies right off the rails.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, it doesn't make any sense to try

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<v Speaker 2>to draw a parallel between the two. No, Victoria Parks,

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<v Speaker 2>your comment is inexcusable. No, those folks did not deserve

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02:30:05.200 --> 02:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the beatdown. And I would argue even if that guy

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02:30:07.799 --> 02:30:13.079
<v Speaker 2>was full enough in a crowd of black people to

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<v Speaker 2>use that word. And I'm not suggesting he did, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but if he was fool enough to use

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<v Speaker 2>that word in that crowd, you know, you think a

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<v Speaker 2>forward thinking person might think, you know, I might get

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<v Speaker 2>subject to a beatdown. You might would that beatdown be lawful? No,

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<v Speaker 2>eight forty five fifty five KRC, the talk station. We

2784
02:30:42.600 --> 02:30:43.719
<v Speaker 2>got a little bit more time. If you'd like to

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02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:45.159
<v Speaker 2>chime in, feel free to give me a call me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right back, fifty five KRC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's a smile on my face, a red loses.

2788
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<v Speaker 4>Tea calling me.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. It's a wonderful world. It's Friday, covered at

2790
02:31:17.719 --> 02:31:19.719
<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock and the mic goes off and I begin

2791
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<v Speaker 2>my weekend. I'm looking forward to the weekend. Got a

2792
02:31:21.840 --> 02:31:24.079
<v Speaker 2>great charity event I'm going to be speaking at tomorrow.

2793
02:31:24.440 --> 02:31:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Got some time off, and we got some good friends

2794
02:31:27.600 --> 02:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>coming in from out of town, out of Chicago. We're

2795
02:31:29.319 --> 02:31:30.959
<v Speaker 2>going to be visiting with us on Monday. I got

2796
02:31:30.959 --> 02:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>that to look forward to. So find something positive in

2797
02:31:33.319 --> 02:31:35.719
<v Speaker 2>your world to look forward to and ignore some of

2798
02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the chaos for a while. You deserve it. Let's go

2799
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<v Speaker 2>to the phone see what Brian's got to say this morning. Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for calling. Happy Friday to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Brian, thanks for taking the call. A longtime listener,

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<v Speaker 6>first time call her.

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<v Speaker 4>So I heard you.

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<v Speaker 6>Talk about the you know, the guy that took the

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02:31:53.639 --> 02:31:57.520
<v Speaker 6>beat down in Cincinnati. And I've heard this like numerous

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<v Speaker 6>times and on up if you watch other videos, ye,

2807
02:32:02.600 --> 02:32:05.799
<v Speaker 6>there's not just one guy. There's two other guys that

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02:32:05.840 --> 02:32:09.200
<v Speaker 6>are getting a beat down in the background, yeah along

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<v Speaker 6>you know the young one, the lady that got punched

2810
02:32:13.159 --> 02:32:16.120
<v Speaker 6>at the end of it there, but and the two

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02:32:16.159 --> 02:32:19.760
<v Speaker 6>guys that uh were attacked, you know, outside of that

2812
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<v Speaker 6>main video, right, the one guy was the one guy

2813
02:32:22.959 --> 02:32:23.959
<v Speaker 6>was robbed, he.

2814
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<v Speaker 5>Took his wallet.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I heard an interview not getting talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Bernie Morena actually raised something interesting. He said yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>in an interview with Laura Ingram that he had talked

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<v Speaker 2>to five victims in this Now we only know about

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02:32:38.680 --> 02:32:41.879
<v Speaker 2>the two that have been widely discussed. And someone told

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<v Speaker 2>me independence say they had listened to the interview. I

2821
02:32:44.079 --> 02:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>have not, so please do not quote this as gospel

2822
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<v Speaker 2>that Morena's point was they didn't want to go public

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<v Speaker 2>with the fact that they got beat down because they

2824
02:32:50.760 --> 02:32:52.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't want their lives in jeopardy. They want to have

2825
02:32:52.799 --> 02:32:55.559
<v Speaker 2>their names broadcast all over the place, and I certainly

2826
02:32:55.600 --> 02:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>in this day and age, can understand why they might

2827
02:32:57.479 --> 02:32:59.879
<v Speaker 2>not want to have that happen. So, yeah, I'm a

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02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:03.399
<v Speaker 2>where there's other videos and that maybe other people are victims.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's you know, I just that I just

2830
02:33:08.280 --> 02:33:10.559
<v Speaker 6>wanted to bring that up there. Everybody keeps talking about

2831
02:33:10.600 --> 02:33:13.280
<v Speaker 6>that one guy, but there's there's a lot more than

2832
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<v Speaker 6>just one guy that got it. You know, the one

2833
02:33:15.920 --> 02:33:19.840
<v Speaker 6>video this guy they showed the guy like dropping an

2834
02:33:19.879 --> 02:33:21.360
<v Speaker 6>elbow on the guy in the.

2835
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<v Speaker 4>Middle of the street.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like only trapped. Yeah, so I just wanted to

2837
02:33:27.239 --> 02:33:27.680
<v Speaker 6>bring that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you did, Brian. I appreciate you. Feel free

2839
02:33:29.799 --> 02:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>to call it anytime. I'm glad you tell you took

2840
02:33:31.319 --> 02:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the time to do so today. Yeah, I'm going back

2841
02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>to my point about the they deserve the beat down.

2842
02:33:36.360 --> 02:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>It didn't. I emphasized the word they in there, but

2843
02:33:38.159 --> 02:33:40.959
<v Speaker 2>it's critical to point out, does anybody believe that woman

2844
02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:44.239
<v Speaker 2>that is identified as Holly, the one who's face is

2845
02:33:44.280 --> 02:33:48.079
<v Speaker 2>circulating on social media, that got horrifically beaten, punched in

2846
02:33:48.200 --> 02:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>the face squarely when she was not representing a threat

2847
02:33:51.399 --> 02:33:59.879
<v Speaker 2>or saying anything she deserved a beatdown. Huh contemplate that

2848
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<v Speaker 2>one one, Jay, Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Friday

2849
02:34:02.840 --> 02:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to you, Hey.

2850
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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, Brian.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey.

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<v Speaker 16>The next election is going to be very telling right now,

2853
02:34:09.120 --> 02:34:12.319
<v Speaker 16>the city of Cincinnati for decades, and let's say just

2854
02:34:12.360 --> 02:34:12.639
<v Speaker 16>for the.

2855
02:34:12.600 --> 02:34:14.959
<v Speaker 4>Past eight years or whenever George Floyd came.

2856
02:34:14.840 --> 02:34:20.319
<v Speaker 16>On, it has been the sanctuary city Dei Teresa Thigi,

2857
02:34:21.360 --> 02:34:26.399
<v Speaker 16>revolving prosecutor, soft on crime, George Floyd, defund police George Floyd.

2858
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<v Speaker 13>It is the.

2859
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<v Speaker 19>Opposite of mega and which means that the people of

2860
02:34:31.239 --> 02:34:35.760
<v Speaker 19>Cincinnati like the current trajectory. And if this doesn't change

2861
02:34:35.799 --> 02:34:40.680
<v Speaker 19>that trajectory, nothing will it. And it will verify that

2862
02:34:40.719 --> 02:34:43.280
<v Speaker 19>the millions of people in the city of Cincinnati like

2863
02:34:43.399 --> 02:34:45.760
<v Speaker 19>things just the way they are, thank you very much,

2864
02:34:46.799 --> 02:34:50.559
<v Speaker 19>which which I think is what we're seeing with the

2865
02:34:51.079 --> 02:34:54.799
<v Speaker 19>statements coming out of the Mayor's office with Missus Iris

2866
02:34:54.879 --> 02:34:59.159
<v Speaker 19>and and what's coming out of city council, racist comments

2867
02:34:59.200 --> 02:35:04.200
<v Speaker 19>coming from from those city departments. It seems to me

2868
02:35:04.319 --> 02:35:09.639
<v Speaker 19>that the city, the people of Cincinnati, the citizens have

2869
02:35:09.719 --> 02:35:14.200
<v Speaker 19>an overwhelming majority on City council, Mayor's office, all of it,

2870
02:35:14.239 --> 02:35:17.280
<v Speaker 19>they own all of it. I guess in a free country,

2871
02:35:17.920 --> 02:35:20.440
<v Speaker 19>people have the right to choose, and I'm going to

2872
02:35:20.479 --> 02:35:22.360
<v Speaker 19>put it at the feed of the people of Cincinnati.

2873
02:35:22.639 --> 02:35:24.440
<v Speaker 16>Is this what you want? Because it appears to me

2874
02:35:24.600 --> 02:35:26.639
<v Speaker 16>this is what you want. So we'll see in the

2875
02:35:26.680 --> 02:35:29.079
<v Speaker 16>next election. But if we look back in time, it's

2876
02:35:29.120 --> 02:35:32.280
<v Speaker 16>been decades we've been heading in this trajectory.

2877
02:35:32.319 --> 02:35:33.040
<v Speaker 11>This is not new.

2878
02:35:33.440 --> 02:35:36.360
<v Speaker 16>This is the output of everything that I just talked

2879
02:35:36.399 --> 02:35:40.319
<v Speaker 16>about from the George Floyd defund the police DEI put

2880
02:35:40.319 --> 02:35:42.920
<v Speaker 16>it all together, and there it is, folks, right there

2881
02:35:42.920 --> 02:35:47.000
<v Speaker 16>in that video, there's your output. Pops resigning out of frustration,

2882
02:35:47.639 --> 02:35:50.760
<v Speaker 16>chasing the same bad guys because prosecutors won't walk them up.

2883
02:35:51.319 --> 02:35:55.440
<v Speaker 16>Now you have a shortage of cops, the justice systems

2884
02:35:55.479 --> 02:35:58.799
<v Speaker 16>on its last strand there's the output.

2885
02:35:59.280 --> 02:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>So we'll well. And we also have history as a

2886
02:36:02.040 --> 02:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>guide because we can see the same thing happened in Portland,

2887
02:36:04.440 --> 02:36:07.680
<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles and San Francisco and every other city

2888
02:36:07.680 --> 02:36:11.159
<v Speaker 2>who's tried to decriminalize crime. H it's a good point.

2889
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<v Speaker 2>Keep your popcorn out. Elections have consequences. You have an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to have significant change on council and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to vote Republican. You got some charter rights. Scott

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<v Speaker 2>there Steve Gooden, for example, wouldn't he be a wonderful, wonderful,

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<v Speaker 2>refreshing alternative to the current makeup. Yeah, there's an option.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course there's always Corey Bowman. You can give

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<v Speaker 2>him a shot. And why not. Anyhow, problems Absolutely, people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to pack their bags and move. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>that happen a lot after CO or during COVID with

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<v Speaker 2>New York and California. And yeah, if you have the

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<v Speaker 2>means and wherewithal and ability to make a choice, you

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<v Speaker 2>move out of a dangerous location. You go someplace. Well

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<v Speaker 2>like that local businessman preferred in the Enquirer who has

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<v Speaker 2>moved or is moving his downtown business to Blue Ash

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<v Speaker 2>the last straw? What happened on Saturday morning? Anyhow? Tech

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<v Speaker 2>Frida a Day have had a podcast at fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>car Sea dot com. Brig him Aawen in studio on

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<v Speaker 2>energy policy. Brilliant Guy he Is. Check out his regular podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Charged Conversation, produced by the brilliant executive producer of the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five Krsey Morning Show, Joe Strecker Bill Sites on

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes. Check out those podcasts fifty five car Sea

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Tune in Monday for Christopher Smitheman, who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing that event with the Vake Ramaswami at

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and Jackson the River. Five point thirty for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Get there early, says Westside Jim Keever, that's five thirty

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday. We'll hear from him at seven to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Monday on the Morning Show, and then of course Brian

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<v Speaker 2>James with money Monday. Thank you again Joe Strecker for

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<v Speaker 2>producing the program. Love what you do, brother, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you all have a great weekend. Stick around Glenn

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<v Speaker 2>becks Cup.

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<v Speaker 7>Next, President Trump made clear that a peaceful resolution was

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<v Speaker 7>possible if I Ran agreed to give up its nuclear

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<v Speaker 7>weapons ambitions.

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<v Speaker 1>Another updates at the top of the hour fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>krs the talk station.

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<v Speaker 3>This report is sponsored by Aura Mari