1
00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,599
Speaker 1: All right, welcome into Full Court Press. Sorry we are

2
00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,919
a couple of minutes late. We could not get my

3
00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,480
microphone to work, and what good is a show if

4
00:00:16,519 --> 00:00:17,280
you can't hear me?

5
00:00:17,519 --> 00:00:19,000
Speaker 2: But it looks like we've resolved that.

6
00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,519
Speaker 1: Thank you for everyone that tuned in last night to

7
00:00:24,559 --> 00:00:29,160
get the bracket discussion started. We myself, Rob Vino, Kelly Stewart,

8
00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,960
Steve Merrill, Brian Power. We watched the bracket unfold in

9
00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,079
real time. I was not happy, Rob when I saw

10
00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,679
Sianna get a sixteen seed right out of the gate,

11
00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,159
not even any suspense, just oh, here you go. You're

12
00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,280
gonna play the best team in college basketball.

13
00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,759
Speaker 2: I thought they should have been a fifteen. But that's

14
00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:48,600
either here and are there?

15
00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,119
Speaker 3: Rob.

16
00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:51,600
Speaker 1: We've now had a night to sort of let the

17
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200
matchup set in. The odds have populated. I have still

18
00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,880
not made a bet yet on the NCAA tournament. So

19
00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,920
my question to you is, well, first of all, how's

20
00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520
it going this morning? How'd you do yesterday? And second

21
00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,079
of all, have you bet anything yet?

22
00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,840
Speaker 3: All right, so first of all, things are good now

23
00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,439
that we're we can hear each other, Adam, it was

24
00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:13,239
kind of crazy there for a minute, but we're all

25
00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:17,319
good now. Last night was fun time. Guys. If you

26
00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,200
did not catch it last night, go back. Maybe we

27
00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:24,840
can post the link inside the chat here. You can

28
00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:27,640
go back and review what we talked about for two hours.

29
00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,040
Really good conversation, really good insight from as Adam mentioned himself,

30
00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:36,439
Brian Power, Kelly Stewart, Steve Merrill, and myself as we

31
00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,400
reacted immediately to these games. I have not made a

32
00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,280
bet yet. I did go one in one yesterday. I

33
00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:45,760
had the Dayton VCU A ten title game under the total,

34
00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,879
which it did remain under, and I took a shot

35
00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:52,200
with Vandy, thinking that maybe Vandy was on a quest

36
00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:57,400
and Arkansas, hey, listen, you and I as a twosome

37
00:01:57,519 --> 00:01:59,840
praise Darkansas as much as we could praise him last

38
00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:02,840
night on the show. I think we were kind of

39
00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,200
we might have been lone wolfs in that praise. Maybe

40
00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,080
it was higher than the other folks on the set thought,

41
00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:14,439
but boy, Arkansas is impressive. I was going through this stuff,

42
00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,840
probably Adam. We're on the East coast, so probably till

43
00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:20,319
about one thirty am. I was hoping to get some

44
00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:24,240
nit lines which we never got in which we still

45
00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,560
don't have but I was going through some an action

46
00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,520
as well. That will be up first out of the

47
00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,360
box tomorrow along with the first four games, a couple

48
00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,800
of first four games, so I guess we could start

49
00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,960
there and then see what the chat wants to talk about.

50
00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,919
But again, if you guys missed it yesterday, go back

51
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,439
and check out the immediate reactions from us. This is

52
00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:47,479
going to be a heck of a tournament. I said

53
00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,800
yesterday Adam on that show, I've never immediate reaction like

54
00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:57,360
so many underdogs or thought so many favorites were overvalued

55
00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,479
in quite some time. And you know, you have to

56
00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,680
Immediate reactions aren't necessarily always to be all in dolls.

57
00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:06,120
You have to go back and review this stuff. But

58
00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,759
it should be fun, a fun two weeks for sure.

59
00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:16,199
Speaker 2: I had myself beauted right there. That was not There

60
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,039
was no problem with that.

61
00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you brought that up, because I too

62
00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,879
found myself on the show reacting in real time, gravitating

63
00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,840
to a lot of a lot of underdogs. I think

64
00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,960
I think that's natural though, So I think that's like

65
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,759
a great talking point to start the show, because again

66
00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:34,520
we're gonna go off of what you guys bring up

67
00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,879
in the chat. We don't even necessarily have to talk

68
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,960
specific games the whole time, because again, we're gonna have

69
00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,759
days to do this. But like, for me, like, yeah,

70
00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,960
the bracket gets unveiled, I'm a mid major guy. I

71
00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,560
watch a ton of of mid major hoops and kind

72
00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,120
of know who's you know, good, who's not, so on

73
00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,759
and so forth. I'm also you know, when we're doing

74
00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:56,080
the show, Let's put it this way, when we're doing

75
00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,360
the show last night, I see the bracket populated, and

76
00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,240
I'm like, oh, I would really like them this year.

77
00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,879
Speaker 2: They have a potentially have a chance.

78
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,280
Speaker 1: They have a chance, Northern Iowa has a chance, offs

79
00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:06,840
Or has a chance, Troy has a chance, right every

80
00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,280
time one comes up. Now that now that I've had

81
00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:13,039
a full day to start to go through games, look

82
00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,479
at the numbers, I'm I'm backing.

83
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,040
Speaker 2: Out on a lot more of those underdogs.

84
00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,759
Speaker 1: Then, Like let's say, like last night, at first glance,

85
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,519
I was like, oh, yeah, they definitely have a chance.

86
00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,240
I'm starting to get to the point where I think

87
00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,160
less of them have an actual chance. So that's also

88
00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,639
why I didn't like knee Jerk. I really don't like

89
00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,560
to like bet On my first sort of instinct on

90
00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:33,920
the game.

91
00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:35,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you one example.

92
00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,759
Speaker 1: Last year, I had a very you know, very good

93
00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,639
like first couple days of March madness, and like the

94
00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,439
one loss was the play I like basically locked in

95
00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,120
on the selection show. It was Grand Canyon. I think

96
00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,199
they were plus and eleven and a half against Maryland.

97
00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,959
I did get a good number, they got destroyed. Second thought,

98
00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,639
I'm gonna make here before I kick it back to you,

99
00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,920
is I feel like the committee or whoever makes this

100
00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,480
bracket put a lot of they they made bad matchups.

101
00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:05,040
Speaker 2: For the for the underdogs, for the mid majors.

102
00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,959
Speaker 1: They they're like feeding a mid major a team that's

103
00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,839
gonna beat them at their own game. In a lot

104
00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,319
of cases. The one that came to mind that might

105
00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,079
be a good matchup yesterday rob was Northern Iowa because

106
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,360
because I really do think they could slow down Saint

107
00:05:17,439 --> 00:05:20,279
John's and you know, force no, not give up a

108
00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,639
ton in transition, force them to score a little bit

109
00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:26,480
out of the half quarter, make shots. But boy, outside

110
00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:29,199
of that, even the ones I think have a chance

111
00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,000
in the matchup, it's like they're going into a team

112
00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,120
that does what they do better than they do it

113
00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,600
that that's like the biggest takeaway I got from like

114
00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:38,040
looking at all these first round games. So so weigh

115
00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:40,160
in on that, Rob, what do you think about sort

116
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,720
of those two things.

117
00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely why you have to let the dust

118
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,120
settle kind of adamant and go back to what I

119
00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,079
would call the drawing board and start evaluating the matchups.

120
00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,240
I jumped at a bunch now, one that I kind

121
00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,800
of stick to here even on Monday morning, and we'll

122
00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,000
see if I come off of him, because the numbers

123
00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:03,439
starting to go down a little bit. Even more so,

124
00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:05,879
I thought on the show, High Point had a real

125
00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:09,639
chance against Wisconsin. High Point, a team that dominated their league,

126
00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:15,199
ended very hot. They draw Wisconsin, who obviously is led

127
00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,839
by two of the best maybe one of the arguably

128
00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:20,720
one of the best guard tandems in the country. But

129
00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:24,519
I thought maybe High Point had elements to negate some

130
00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,399
of that because they are so perimeter oriented as well.

131
00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:30,759
But you're right, you know, let me ask you a

132
00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,759
question here. I was going through some stuff and I've

133
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:41,079
ran across a little synopsis on Hawaii basketball Hawaii defense,

134
00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,399
where Hawaii plays zero help defense. They don't help defenders,

135
00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,040
they just basically play one on one. And I looked

136
00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:53,839
at the matchup against Arkansas, and I know that we

137
00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,079
had immediately reacted like Arkansas will destroy Hawaii. Hawaii is

138
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,639
a good basketball team, thinking to myself, if you're gonna

139
00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,439
send your guys out there to not help against a

140
00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:14,160
Cuff and Company, Billy Richmond Junior or Billy Richard, there's

141
00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:16,439
a lot of trouble there because you're gonna get beat

142
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,040
off the dribble a ton in this game. And then

143
00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,920
you know, and we're kind of talking x's and o's here,

144
00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:27,800
but the the pressure point there is right in the lane.

145
00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,639
Either mid range game or Ali oops for dunks lobs

146
00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,879
so to speak, they would seem to be prevalent for

147
00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:40,480
Arkansas here. The more I look at that matchup, the

148
00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,680
more I almost feel like Hawaii could get destroyed playing

149
00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,199
the type of defense that they play against this type

150
00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,720
of team. So to your point, and I don't know

151
00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,639
that we can call I guess yeah, we have to

152
00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,920
call Big West a mid major, Hawaii a mid major

153
00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:57,920
coming in against Arkansas. Not necessarily what they do best

154
00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:00,279
against Arkansas, what they do best against what why he

155
00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:04,160
does best, but just the stylistic matchup offense versus defense.

156
00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,759
To me, boy, Arkansas could have a field day offensively

157
00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:09,759
against those guys if they want to stick to playing

158
00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:11,120
no help defense.

159
00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,160
Speaker 2: For sure. So I decided what we'll probably do.

160
00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:17,399
Speaker 1: Since we're gonna bounce around a lot on this show

161
00:08:17,439 --> 00:08:19,879
where we're not gonna you know, we have time later

162
00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,879
in the week to go sort of deeper into these matchups.

163
00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:26,040
So I'm gonna start to group some like games together.

164
00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,000
And the three we just mentioned, in my opinion, are

165
00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,960
all very similar to me Hawaii, Arkansas, high Point, Wisconsin,

166
00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,200
and then Northern I was Saint John's From a numbers perspective,

167
00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,679
I think the books kind of got.

168
00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,399
Speaker 2: These three right.

169
00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,200
Speaker 1: I would almost say that, like, I agree slightly with

170
00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,000
high Point taking money at eleven and a half, but

171
00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,120
high Point sort of reminds me of my Grand Canyon

172
00:08:51,159 --> 00:08:53,720
pick last year. They took a little money, like the

173
00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,159
books maybe priced it incorrectly out of the gate, but

174
00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,519
that's not a great matchup for high Point in my opinion,

175
00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,679
they're not. You know, Wisconsin doesn't turn the ball over

176
00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:07,759
at all. It's another instance of like what high Point

177
00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:10,440
could do to win a game like this. Wisconsin's good

178
00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,080
at neutralizing I think the same thing with Arkansas Hawaii.

179
00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:16,600
Like I was, I was reading something about, oh well,

180
00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,799
maybe Hawaii play his zone.

181
00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,840
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, but they haven't. How much have they

182
00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:20,679
done that this year?

183
00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:20,919
Speaker 3: Right?

184
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,840
Speaker 1: Like, so you mean to tell me that they're gonna

185
00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,879
within four or five days scrap the way they've been

186
00:09:25,879 --> 00:09:28,799
playing all year to try to try a zone against

187
00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:32,159
Arkansas and and you know, I mean, yeah, that's great.

188
00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,799
Like I suppose an SEC team or a big time

189
00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,480
team could go to zone and give Arkansas trouble. I'm

190
00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:39,879
not sure Hawaii could if they even were in zone.

191
00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,720
So again for me, Robin and I'll before we move on,

192
00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:48,039
we'll we'll sort of package these three games together out

193
00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,080
of those three because they're all right in the same

194
00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,960
vein where it's like double digit favorite against lower seed,

195
00:09:56,799 --> 00:09:57,399
and I.

196
00:09:57,279 --> 00:09:58,759
Speaker 2: Think the numbers are right on all of them.

197
00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:00,399
Speaker 1: If I had to pick one of those three per

198
00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,519
potential upset, I think I would pick Northern Iowa just

199
00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,080
because of like the fact that they looked so good

200
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,600
at Arch Madness now that they're fully healthy, and that

201
00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:12,080
is one where it's like, if they don't let Saint

202
00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,559
John's get get transition points and get to the rim,

203
00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:17,039
and you're forcing Saint John's to make shots. We know

204
00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,440
that Saint John's has a hard time making shots. So

205
00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:23,639
anything from those three before we move it on that

206
00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:27,080
you're interested in potentially making a move on.

207
00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to continue to look at high point

208
00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,519
and again as we speak here, Adam, and we talk

209
00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,159
a little bit of the fundamentals, because that's somewhat how

210
00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:38,519
we break it down, but we also include the situationals.

211
00:10:38,519 --> 00:10:42,159
And I do wonder about Wisconsin after the tournament run

212
00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,919
there these four days off, it can be either helpful

213
00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,600
or non helpful. And I think we all agreed on

214
00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:52,519
the pianol last night. In Northern Iowa. I mean, you

215
00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,879
and I don't have to talk to anymore about Northern Iowa.

216
00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:59,480
We've gone through them quite a bit this season, and

217
00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:02,679
right now you know just the way they are set up,

218
00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,679
with their ability to shoot threes, with their ability to

219
00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,159
slow a game down. It's frustrating for a team like

220
00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,200
Saint John's that wants to go and Northern Iowa doesn't

221
00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,279
necessarily turn it over enough for Saint John's to get

222
00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,559
enough runouts to get one of those you know, knockout

223
00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,679
punch type spurts, so I think Northern Iowa probably hangs around.

224
00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,799
I'll add a couple to this grouping Vanderbilt McNeice is

225
00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,679
a double digit type of number and a game we

226
00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,000
talked about yesterday that I think we're both We both

227
00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,200
like to begin with Troy Nebraska. I think Troy plus

228
00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,559
thirteen and a half still interests me Adam against Nebraska,

229
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,960
and you know, I'll let you go ahead and analyze

230
00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,440
it as well. But to me, Troy has the ability

231
00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,639
to get a lot like Northern Iowa can slow the

232
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,240
game down. You don't even have to slow it down

233
00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:52,960
against Nebraska because Fred Hoiberg's team is going to play slow.

234
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,240
You got to get out on their jump shooters and

235
00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:57,919
they just have to find a way. The wildcard that

236
00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,679
we always talk about is rank mask find a way

237
00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,799
to rebound if you have to send your big out

238
00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,080
on the perimeter to get after him. But Troy shows

239
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,840
all the instincts, all the qualifications of a team in

240
00:12:12,879 --> 00:12:16,519
this particular matchup where maybe they got set up good.

241
00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:19,240
I did see an interview with Fred Hoiberg early this

242
00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,480
morning where he did reference the location of the game,

243
00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:28,320
Oklahoma City. He thought Cornhusker fans would travel very well,

244
00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,919
and I will say that that would be a concern

245
00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,360
where the arena where the arena is here, because Troy,

246
00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,000
I don't know that they'll travel as well. However, just

247
00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,039
note that as these games go on into the second

248
00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:45,000
half of Troy's in the game, half of that crowd

249
00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:47,320
is going to take the underdog side. It happens all

250
00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,799
the time, So Troy, if they can hang in, probably

251
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,399
will have benefit of some more of the crowd than

252
00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,039
they would normally. So Troy to me, and boy, I

253
00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,600
don't know. I love Vanderbilt, but I do know McNeice

254
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,080
can cause some defensive problems. To you, the problem for

255
00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,840
me with McNeice is they may not score for a

256
00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:10,679
stretch against Sandy, and if that's the case, Fandy shoots

257
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,440
it way too well. That's a game that I was

258
00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,159
on yesterday, and to your point, I'm probably talking myself

259
00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,399
off of today. I think Vanderbilt is just too consistently

260
00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:26,440
explosive and McNeice is too prone to droughts. So I

261
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,320
don't know that I'm as high on taking eleven and

262
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,919
a half with them as I was yesterday.

263
00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.

264
00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:37,600
Speaker 1: I see McNeice Vandy is one that I think is

265
00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:41,639
probably the matchup probably favors Vandy. I would like, I'm

266
00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,919
not like ruling mcneicse out by any means, but I

267
00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:47,159
think that that's probably a not exactly the matchup that

268
00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,480
they wanted. Whereas you know, and we'll go back to

269
00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,840
the Troy. I guess we'll do those two together right now.

270
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,480
Mcneicse Vandy Troy Nebraska. I kind of made a case

271
00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,919
for Troy on the show last night that I'm starting

272
00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,879
to move away from a little bit, and it's just

273
00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:07,240
like one of those things. That's also why I'm not

274
00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:10,720
gonna like bet instantly, like you know, knee jerk reaction

275
00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:13,960
type stuff as the bracket comes out, because I think

276
00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:16,679
yesterday we talked about Troy Nebraska and I said, Okay, well,

277
00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,639
you know, you're getting a pretty big number.

278
00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:22,279
Speaker 2: The possessions in the game.

279
00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:25,799
Speaker 1: Might be a lower possession type game because neither team

280
00:14:25,879 --> 00:14:27,919
is you know, both both like to slow it down.

281
00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,519
Like I still believe Scott Cross is very capable of

282
00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:34,000
like putting together a game plan that slows it down

283
00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:39,519
maximizes the number of possessions Troy does have. But like you're,

284
00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,120
like you said, like masked being able to like, I

285
00:14:42,159 --> 00:14:44,679
mean Nebraska. The other thing is, I mean if they're

286
00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,519
if they're moving the ball, spreading it out and their

287
00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:50,440
threes are falling, like it might be good night to

288
00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,320
Troy in that game. So I'm actually sort of off

289
00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,240
of that one. I feel like I made a case

290
00:14:56,279 --> 00:15:00,279
for that one last thing that I don't really sort

291
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,639
of believe just as much anymore. That's and that's gonna

292
00:15:02,679 --> 00:15:04,759
you know what, Like that's the biggest challenge here in

293
00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:06,759
my opinion betting these games.

294
00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:10,919
Speaker 2: It's like I tend to not bet them very early

295
00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,720
and be okay.

296
00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,320
Speaker 1: If I miss something and just passing on it because

297
00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:17,240
it's it's NCAA tournament.

298
00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:20,279
Speaker 2: Rob, Like crazy shit happens for lack of a better,

299
00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:22,039
you know thing.

300
00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,279
Speaker 1: All Right, this one I made bet and Garth is

301
00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,000
asked about it. So let's go to the first four.

302
00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:34,639
Garth says, nineteen and eight run going into March Madness Tuesday.

303
00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:41,080
He's looking at UMBC team total over seventy and a half. Rob,

304
00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,480
I'm looking at UNBC just to win this game. May

305
00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,759
may just play myself a money line here because it's

306
00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:50,879
only minus one and a half on the spread. I

307
00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,759
just say I've seen both of these teams play multiple

308
00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:57,639
like in person this year. Why I've followed the America

309
00:15:57,679 --> 00:16:02,639
East very closely. That trio of guards rob on UNBC

310
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,840
is really good. Valentine there's three of them, of course

311
00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:10,759
the names Ace. Valentine is one of them, and I'm

312
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,279
forgetting the names of the other two. The point is

313
00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:17,240
the last month or so they have been awesome just

314
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,000
running through the America East can take anyone off the dribble,

315
00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:24,720
just totally destroyed Vermont in the second half of that

316
00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:28,399
game on Saturday. Like, They're just better than Howard in

317
00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:30,559
my opinion, So why would I not just take a

318
00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,639
small money line here? My numbers actually closer to four.

319
00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:36,240
This might be a bet for me. But but also

320
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,679
talk about potential team total. Does UNBC get up and

321
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,399
over the seventy and a half points?

322
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean on my short list here for this

323
00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:47,279
morning when I was looking was the full game total?

324
00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:51,600
Really I kind of look at the defensive numbers posted

325
00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,919
by Howard and posted by UNBC and think to myself,

326
00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,480
they can be somewhat fraudulent a in the case of UNBC,

327
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,519
because it's not exactly a Pace type conference and you're

328
00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,839
going to get a pace team in Howard in this game,

329
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,200
and where Howard is concerned, obviously, the quality of competition

330
00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,680
in the MIAC is not up to the level of UNBC,

331
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,440
and so I wonder if Howard's defensive numbers aren't just

332
00:17:23,519 --> 00:17:25,720
a little bit phony. So when I see this come

333
00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:28,440
down to maybe one thirty nine and a half, thinking

334
00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,240
to myself, man, this game is very very much worth playing.

335
00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:36,400
To the over you worry about jitters, potential jitters with

336
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,400
these teams. But I think these two teams will be

337
00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:40,400
just fine. And Dayton, I don't think we'll have to

338
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,799
worry too much about that, and I think they'll both

339
00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:46,880
be on the attack. So to Gar's question, UNBC and

340
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,680
really quick in the Vermont game, Adam Boy, UNBC stretched

341
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,119
that lead and that game was close at the four

342
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,000
minute mark to go in the game, and then UNBC

343
00:17:58,079 --> 00:18:01,400
hit a couple of threes and absolutely stretched out the

344
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,720
margin and one going away Vermont couldn't keep pace. Very

345
00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:09,720
close game, big win by UNBC. But to Garth's question,

346
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,640
I think I could see UNBC going over the total

347
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,839
here for reasons I just described. I'm not a believer

348
00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:17,599
that in this vact and this is the great thing

349
00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,519
about the tournament, that where you have to almost take

350
00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:24,720
everything you saw this past weekend or past two weeks

351
00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:26,920
in these conference tournaments, and I like to just throw

352
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,480
it all in the garbage because once these teams get

353
00:18:31,519 --> 00:18:35,480
outside their conference again, it's a whole different story. Like

354
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,400
when we watch Michigan struggle with Wisconsin struggle with Producing

355
00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:42,000
it's just because you've been in Big Ten play so long,

356
00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:44,759
like these teams know you inside and out, and now

357
00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:47,759
you get to free yourselves. And I heard one coach

358
00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:50,440
mentioned this, he'd be glad to get outside the conference now,

359
00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:52,240
and I think that's going to be the case for

360
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,519
Howard and UNBC. So Garth, yes, I would agree. I

361
00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:59,599
would also agree, and probably the direction I'm going to

362
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,960
follow is full game total over. And thirdly, Adam, I

363
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,920
would agree that U NBC's probably a bucket better. We're

364
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,319
only lay in one and a half year, and if

365
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,039
you go money line, you're just asking to win by

366
00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:15,240
a point. I think they're probably the better team.

367
00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it that that's where I'm called that,

368
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,599
that's really where I'm sort of starting to gravitate towards NBC.

369
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,559
As I was, I was closer to like four on

370
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,440
this you know, the spread being like UNBC minus three

371
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,640
and a half minus four. So the fact that it's

372
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,319
still out there just minus one and a half and

373
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,119
you can kind of play a pretty cheap money line.

374
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,759
Speaker 2: That definitely appealing.

375
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,799
Speaker 1: But like again, like they you know, they've played much

376
00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:43,960
better defense over the last Like UNBC has played better

377
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,079
defense over the last month or so when they really

378
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,519
took over that America East conference, and you know that

379
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,119
was an issue for them earlier earlier in the year.

380
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,720
In my opinion, was just like like you know, they've

381
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,160
they've always sort of had the offensive end figured out,

382
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,400
but their defense you know, wasn't quite as good. Put

383
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,599
the reason I bring that up is like Howard's a

384
00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:06,880
pretty capable team in terms of like putting the ball.

385
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: In the basket. So that's what I'll have to sort

386
00:20:09,759 --> 00:20:10,279
of think about.

387
00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 1: But I am my number leans toward UNBC, and I

388
00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:17,920
am leaning that way as well, So again I will

389
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,839
we'll see if we.

390
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll lock anything in on this show.

391
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna do a parlay today because we're

392
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,480
gonna do those later in the week. But like I'll

393
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,279
tell you right now. One I'm definitely getting some thought

394
00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:31,359
to tomorrow.

395
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: Is U NBC?

396
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's move along. Let me make

397
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,359
sure I got I'm gonna go back to the chat.

398
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,440
We got a lot of good chat, you know on

399
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,160
the so I guess, like Rob, I'll throw a general

400
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,880
question your way, sure, from a straight like from a

401
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,359
straight up standpoint. Do you see a bunch of upsets

402
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,519
in the first round? Do you think the favorites advance

403
00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:00,960
and a lot of these games.

404
00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,519
Speaker 3: I feel like the larger favorites spam by large, I

405
00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:12,079
mean anything over five six points, those those teams are

406
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,079
all going to advance. I find it hard to make

407
00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:16,960
a case, you know, when you sit down, and I

408
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,960
don't prefer to do these things. But obviously we all

409
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,480
have family. We all have friends that want to, hey,

410
00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:25,480
let's get together and do a bracket pool. When I

411
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,680
sit down to try to do a bracket pool at them,

412
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,880
I just find it way too hard without a point spread,

413
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,880
involve to go ahead and move underdogs all the way there,

414
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000
you know through now and hubsets are gonna happen. We

415
00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:40,319
know that, But if you're asking me, I just don't

416
00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,400
see a case to be made for a lot of

417
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,240
these teams that are catching in that. You know, let's

418
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,400
say seven plus range the only one as I look

419
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,160
here really fast before I turn it back over to you,

420
00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:57,519
and they I wouldn't even put them in this category.

421
00:21:57,519 --> 00:21:59,640
But South Florida was plus six and a half, now

422
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,480
down to five, and I think South Florida has a

423
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:08,279
legit shot to move on against against excuse me, Louisville.

424
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,000
But other than that, I find it hard to make

425
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359
a case for any of these teams winning their games

426
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,359
straight up.

427
00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:18,039
Speaker 1: Well, let's stay let's stay on that game for now,

428
00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:20,039
because I'm I'm pretty intrigued there as well.

429
00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:22,079
Speaker 2: Uh, don't worry, Colin, I will.

430
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: I will reprise rehash that Miami of Ohio take in

431
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,960
just a minute. But let's let's go to the South

432
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,440
Florida Louisville game. I believe this is an early tip

433
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,680
on on Thursday, one of the first games to go

434
00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:36,920
out in Buffalo, New York. Of course, you know you've

435
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000
probably heard the story. At this point, Brian Hodgson gets

436
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,960
to come back home. He's a Buffalo, New York native.

437
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,079
People think he's gonna be the Syracuse coach. That's a different, different,

438
00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:50,000
conversation for a different time. But but the point is,

439
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,359
like yesterday I was almost like, so I had one

440
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,319
play yesterday I cashed with Arkansas. I'm actually kicking myself

441
00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:59,039
in hindsight for not playing South Florida minus five and

442
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,279
a half in that game, because because someone asked me

443
00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:05,559
about it, I basically texted them all the reasons that

444
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,720
should be an easy win, and then I didn't play

445
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,119
it myself, and then sure enough they just came out

446
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,559
and slammed. Wichita won by like fifteen. They've been very

447
00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:18,519
impressive to me this year. South Florida like kind of

448
00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:21,599
ran through the American, which I think that the American

449
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,680
personally was better just because Memphis had a down year,

450
00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,160
it wasn't necessarily a bad year for the conference, like

451
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,839
Tulsa had a really good team. Wichita State came on late.

452
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,880
Like so that to me is I don't know that

453
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,160
South Florida got enough credit for what they did this season.

454
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,200
And now you're going up against Pat Kelsey who's like

455
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:43,240
really struggled in any sort of big game, and Louisville's

456
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,839
gonna have to lay five and a half six and

457
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,240
they're probably gonna do what they always do rob just

458
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,200
chuck threes up, hope they hit half of them and win.

459
00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:54,759
Like this is what I'm also close with. South Florida

460
00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:57,200
plus six plus five and a half feels kind of

461
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,640
like a feels like it should be more like two

462
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,920
and a half for three to me on a neutral.

463
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: So talk to me a little bit about that.

464
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,039
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey, Brian Hodgson, Louisville, South Florida. Are you are

465
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:10,319
you close to making a play in that one?

466
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,079
Speaker 2: I guess you know.

467
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: And there's not much difference between them, Adam, we get this.

468
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,200
We talked a little bit about this yesterday on the

469
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:23,319
show The Immediate Reaction Show. Last night, Steve Merrill had

470
00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,839
made the point that you know, if a fast team

471
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,519
plays a fast team, then you play the favorite because

472
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:32,720
they do it better. And I brought up this game

473
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:35,839
and I mentioned I don't know that that would apply here.

474
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:42,039
South Florida can do everything that Louisville does and in

475
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,480
a forty minutes win or go home. I mean, Enison

476
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:49,440
Pinion can make threes as well as anybody. Nelson's the

477
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,519
player of the year inside that conference. And you might

478
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:54,960
have to do this if you're Louisville without MIKEL. Brown.

479
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,400
We'll see what the injury status is there as we

480
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,960
go along, but we seeing time and time again with Louisville.

481
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:06,960
They're basically going to allow South Florida to play this style.

482
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,160
And again Adam referenced Brian Hodgson. For those who don't know,

483
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,119
we'll say it for the for those who don't, he's

484
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,680
an Alabama disciple and NATO's disciples. So this game's going

485
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:19,960
to be a track me up and down the Floyd.

486
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,119
Louisville is not gonna duck it. South Florida is gonna

487
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,720
want to press the gas even harder. And this is

488
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,599
an instance where the underdog has as good a chance

489
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,680
as good of a possibility to go on that twelve

490
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,119
zero spurt as any favorite. Does you know? I just

491
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,559
mentioned a couple of other games where the favorite the

492
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,559
dog scares me because the favorite could go on to run.

493
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,119
Here the dog is fully capable. And I'll just add

494
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,000
this really quick here. We do a lot with the

495
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,519
eye test, Adam. I know we put numbers to everything

496
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,039
and use it in our analysis, but we also watch

497
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:58,400
a boatload of games, and to me, South Florida as

498
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,799
the season went on just got better and better and

499
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:06,359
started to create larger and larger margins. I think they're

500
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,359
probably rounding it to form at the right time of season.

501
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,440
They're playing their best basketball. And I don't know that

502
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,039
I can say the same about Louisville. They've got nice talent,

503
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,680
but you know, the ACC was sort of death. Let

504
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,000
me ask you this, don't you think South Florida could

505
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:25,920
have competed on a decent five hundred tight basis inside

506
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,880
that ACC this year? I think they could have.

507
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:32,079
Speaker 1: Absolutely, they're they're yeah, for for sure, especially if they

508
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,759
if they drew a schedule with like a lot of.

509
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: The bottom half of that league. For sure, without a doubt.

510
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 1: And about this, like so really like you're you're catching

511
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,599
five and a half points here, true sort of neutral

512
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:47,559
core up in Buffalo and Louisville's going to be the

513
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,039
team that's bombs away from three and South Florida is

514
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:51,599
probably going to get to the rim and score their

515
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,279
points at the rim. Like that that to me, plus

516
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,279
you're gonna give give me five and a half points?

517
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,240
That that may have to Uh, I did see there

518
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,640
was some six There's a couple that have had like

519
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:03,920
got faked right out of the gate and then came

520
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,359
back so like for me, like, I, yeah, if you listen,

521
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,079
if you have six and a half with South Florida,

522
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:09,880
that is a fantastic number.

523
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:12,079
Speaker 2: But I feel like six.

524
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,039
Speaker 1: I feel like five and a half is fair, Like

525
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,359
I think I don't think you're wrong, Like I don't

526
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,920
think you've missed anything to play Loeuville or to play

527
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,759
South Florida at plus five and a half. I don't

528
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,119
know that I want it much like lower than that,

529
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,839
Like I do think that that's kind of the end

530
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,079
of the value, Like I don't know that i'd play

531
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,200
five or worse. However, if Piquel Brown gets ruled out,

532
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,839
which I think is a pretty big, like pretty good

533
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,720
possibility that he doesn't play, I think that goes to

534
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,799
more like four because I think it'll get bet down.

535
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,079
Even though I think you and I are both like, well,

536
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,079
what do you give his chances to play on Thursday?

537
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,079
I think it's less than fifty percent. If I had

538
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,319
to guess based on what I've kind of heard.

539
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,319
Speaker 3: I'd agree with that. That's the way I'm kind of

540
00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:59,839
looking at it. Right now. We're still up in here

541
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,079
with his status, but I haven't heard or heard or

542
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,720
read anything that's encouraging above fifty chance that he goes.

543
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

544
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: So I'll segue into another player that I don't think

545
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,279
is going to play on Wednesday, and that would be

546
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,440
Edwards for SMU BJ Edwards. I everything I've read suggests

547
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,000
he's probably not playing against Miami of Ohio. So let's

548
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,240
go back to Dayton. We'll talk another play and round game.

549
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,799
This is another one open seven and a half, very

550
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,680
quickly bet up yesterday while we were on the selection show,

551
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,119
and then sort of like market pushed it back down

552
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,480
to seven and a half. So again, this is another

553
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:46,519
one where I think it is a fair I think

554
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:50,400
it's a fair price to like, if you're gonna bet

555
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,359
Miami of Ohio, I think betting it at seven and

556
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,200
a half is fine. Yeah, you didn't get the when

557
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,839
they had smaller limits and you know, shot the market

558
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,400
up and then bet it right back the other way.

559
00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

560
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: I used to have eight and a half or nine,

561
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:04,000
but that that probably wasn't that realistic for most people

562
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200
given how quick it moved. So Rob, I'm gonna like

563
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,559
double down on what I said last night here. This

564
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,279
is an opinion I lean into even more. I think

565
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,440
Miami of Ohio has a great chance to not only

566
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,200
win this game, but win the next game against Tennessee.

567
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,480
They're home essentially in Dayton, fifty miles from campus. All

568
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,079
their fans should be able to go to this game

569
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,960
on Wednesday. So this is another one I'm giving some long,

570
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,359
hard thought to Miami of Ohio plus seven and a half.

571
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640
That's a number that likely dips even further if Edwards

572
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,559
is officially ruled out and if he's at like you're

573
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,039
if the ACC, these middling acc to the bottom teams

574
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:46,799
in this league this year just were not that good.

575
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,960
SMU has just done nothing for me this year. I

576
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:51,960
haven't been overly high on them. I feel like they've

577
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,480
been overvalued since the very beginning of the season. So

578
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,519
I like Miami of Ohio as as well. And that's

579
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:01,240
another one where Comenesday night they might be without their

580
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720
best player or one of them.

581
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is fantastic because this is one where

582
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,759
you're fired up in your lane, which is sides, and

583
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,400
I'm fired up in my lane, which is total because

584
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,480
to me, this is a simple score fest. Miami of Ohio.

585
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,599
We've seen it all season long, Right, They're going to

586
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,400
give up points They're just not good on that end

587
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,599
of the floor. SMU is gonna score points because that's

588
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,599
what they do. Edwards or not, they can get to

589
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,119
eighty with him. They're obviously a much better offenser and

590
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,279
I won't say they're a much better offensive team. They're

591
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,960
a more well rounded team. Miami of Ohio is going

592
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,680
to score on SMU. You've talked a lot about how

593
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,559
they spread out defenses and get good shots. They're going

594
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,160
to get that against SMU. SMU is a terrible defense.

595
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,559
Andy Enfeld has said it two or three times this year.

596
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,759
SMU's done nothing to improve it. Honestly, this game has

597
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,119
moved up one point from one sixty three and a

598
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,480
half to one six four. So what they're asking me

599
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,599
for here, if I was to do the quick math

600
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
in my head, is an eighty six to seventy nine game.

601
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,039
I mean, I think both teams are getting into the

602
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:13,039
eighties here. I don't think there's much defensive resistance on

603
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:17,400
either side. If that's the case, then you certainly want

604
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,400
the dog. If you think they're both going to get

605
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,440
into the eighties. I don't know how they stop each other, Adam, honestly,

606
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,599
and I don't know which team really wants to stop

607
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400
the I guess Miami of Ohio always wants to stop you.

608
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,599
They're just not good enough defensively to do so. Boopy

609
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640
Miller could have a huge game, Pierre could have a

610
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,400
huge game. And the Edwards thing is what it is.

611
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,079
But what a draw was the first thing. When we

612
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,720
were watching the show yesterday, I thought to myself, everything

613
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,799
I saw, every projection I saw on Brian Power kept

614
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:53,160
referring to the Linardi projections, the bracketologists, etc. But everyone

615
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,880
that I saw had Miami of Ohio having to face Missouri,

616
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:58,200
and I thought, man, I was even on a show

617
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,039
in Columbia, Missouri last Friday, and I said, guys, if

618
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:04,759
Como gets Miami Ohio, that's a good matchup for Mizoo.

619
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,519
It probably win that game. But then Miami of Ohio

620
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,119
gets SMU, and SMU is a much easier task because

621
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,480
it's a sieve of a deep ense. So for me,

622
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,240
I'm very high on the total going over. Listening to you,

623
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:22,519
sounds like you're very high on Miamio. So maybe we

624
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,400
can parlay together and put one here. Get both sides

625
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,279
of this one, right.

626
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean probably gonna have to score to win

627
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:35,920
that game, right like there, I can't really disagree with

628
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,160
you there, and yeah I may, I.

629
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:40,359
Speaker 2: May just man, Rob, I might just do it. I might.

630
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,519
Speaker 1: I might lock in South Florida before we get off

631
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,960
the show here. I don't think it's gonna get better

632
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:50,200
than five and a half. I think it like briefly

633
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,160
it was like six at the open, maybe some six

634
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,799
and a half, but like quickly down to five and

635
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,440
a half. My if Brown doesn't play that, that's gonna

636
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,000
go for that'll What do you think?

637
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: I think?

638
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,279
Speaker 1: What do you think that line is? Do you think

639
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,400
Brown being out is baked into that line or no?

640
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Do you think it drops if he's announced out?

641
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,759
Speaker 3: I think it's already baked in. But I also think

642
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,880
it drops just because of the amount of public money

643
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,039
that's bet on these games. At them, this is something

644
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640
everybody's involved in. It's kind of like Super Bowl, right,

645
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:21,240
everybody's involved. Mckl. Brown is the biggest name out there.

646
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,359
For folks who haven't been around college basketball all season long,

647
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,279
they're gonna hear MIKEL. Brown is out, and the bandwagon

648
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,079
begins and the fifty dollars bets add up twenty five

649
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,759
fifty bets add up, so I would think that, you know,

650
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,799
five and a half could see four. Honestly, I think

651
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,119
because of the rush of money, and for anybody who's

652
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,759
ever been in a Las Vegas sports book, is these

653
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,759
games begin to tip off. You know how long these

654
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,680
lines are. Let's say, get a betted. It's crazy how

655
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:53,880
much money gets bet right at the gun. Yeah, I

656
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440
could see it being forced if you wanted to wait

657
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
on the Louisville side to get a better number. But

658
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:02,119
if if you're on the South Florida side, certainly, I

659
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:03,599
don't know that it's getting any better.

660
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:03,759
Speaker 1: Now.

661
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: If Brown is ruled in Adam.

662
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: Maybe it goes back to Does it go back to

663
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:10,599
six if he's ruled in.

664
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: I think it does. I think it does. But I

665
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,000
don't think it's gonna you know, we're trying to project

666
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,960
here on Monday morning. I don't think it's gonna happen.

667
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,880
I don't think he'll play, but I'll try and investigate

668
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,559
it a little more.

669
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: I think I think it's far more likely that this

670
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,119
one goes back to or this one goes to four

671
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,039
and a half or four, than it is that it

672
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,199
goes to like six and a half or six, and

673
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,880
I think, yeah, because you know, I guess I do

674
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,760
have the brown stuff baked in there. What I would

675
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,679
adjust for him is kind of in I think is

676
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,159
reflected in that number. But like you said, I, if

677
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,199
he's ruled in, maybe it takes up half a point.

678
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,840
If he's like confirmed out, you're gonna see that steam

679
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,920
like there. That's gonna get picked up with everyone trying

680
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,440
to to sort of vet this game. So I'm just

681
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,159
gonna I'll give it out on the show. I I'm

682
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,760
not gonna since you guys are here and tuned in,

683
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,960
we don't have any any games to bet tonight. I'm

684
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,599
gonna make this my first NCAA tournament bet. I just

685
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,840
getting good at doing it on the phone, Rob, I

686
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,920
was so bad at that, like when we when we

687
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,039
rolled over the system. But I'm getting good at locking

688
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,679
plays in on the phone. I'm gonna bet South Florida

689
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:21,599
plus five and a half.

690
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: That is.

691
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: They're they're probably the better team out of those two teams,

692
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,239
and you're on a neutral floor, you're catching five and

693
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
a half and Louisville might take a bunch of threes.

694
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,079
That's a good in my opinion, that's a good bet.

695
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,880
So I've talked myself into it. That is, that is

696
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,519
a play for me, South Florida plus five and a half,

697
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,719
and hopefully it went in. Because I now closed out

698
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,840
of the window, I don't know if it was in

699
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,800
or not, so we'll have to double check. But yeah,

700
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,039
and then again I'll have my eye on that SMU

701
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:00,840
Miami of Ohio game if I love an eight or

702
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,440
an eight and a half there. But again, I think

703
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,320
if Edwards is ruled out officially, that probably goes dips further,

704
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,400
that might go to six and a half, six even

705
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,280
five and a half. So that's when I have my

706
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
eye on as well. All right, let's get back to

707
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:18,000
the chat. Mad Max is here. Mad Max wants to

708
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,679
go back to Dayton. I'll tell you what I mean.

709
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,559
I'm more interested in the games in Dayton the next

710
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,960
you know, more so than like the Thursday Friday games

711
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:30,800
right now, because they're sooner than obviously and the market

712
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,920
will those are more likely to have like legitimate movement

713
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,880
over the next day or two. So this game is

714
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,679
actually tomorrow, and Mad Max says, I'm leading Texas, but

715
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,599
it might be a really good situational spot for the

716
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:46,239
wolf Pack. Rob I'll remind you that these two teams

717
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,400
played in Maui earlier this year. I was on the

718
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,400
wrong side. I had NC State and they just Texas

719
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,800
just went absolutely nuts from three in that game. But

720
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,599
what what also happened in that game was Titus was

721
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,679
very effective and Texas has improved a lot since then.

722
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:09,320
So in the rematch, Rob, I think Texas has improved

723
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,559
far more like if you were to go back to Maui,

724
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,199
Texas has improved significantly.

725
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: NC State may have gone backward in a lot of cases.

726
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,159
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's enough to get me to the

727
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,920
window with Texas, but you know I like this Texas team, Rob,

728
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:27,320
So convince me or talk me off. Please NC State

729
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,159
Texas tomorrow night and Dayton.

730
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: Well, I will say this and again, where NC State

731
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:41,719
is concerned, my wife's nephew is an alum, and he

732
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,199
and her brother in law both very very active inside

733
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,159
that program. So I get a little bit of info

734
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,519
from them, and I will say this, I wouldn't disagree

735
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,159
that NC State might have gone backwards. I will tell

736
00:37:56,199 --> 00:38:02,360
you that NC State fan base is thrilled with their

737
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:08,719
chances inside this tournament. They're so dependent Adam having watched

738
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,119
them five or six times. Now, if Holloman and especially Copeland,

739
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:17,480
like Copeland tends to dominate the ball a lot, But

740
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,920
if Holloman's not banging threes, if McNeil isn't banging threes,

741
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,920
and Copeland's trying to just do his thing one on one,

742
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,440
they they're a good scoring team. But they're also susceptible

743
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,880
to four or five positions in a row with nothing.

744
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,719
Will Wade pulling the hair out of his head. They're

745
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,440
not that great on the defensive end. I will say this,

746
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,400
this the coaching matchup here is what probably shoves me

747
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,960
towards Texas a little bit. Both of these guys are

748
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,880
in their first year, right Sean Miller took over Texas,

749
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:50,800
Will Wade took over NC State. Both guys obviously want

750
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,880
to at least win a first round game. But I

751
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,239
do think the presence, I think you hit it with vocatitis,

752
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,760
the interior presence WEREX is just more well rounded on

753
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,920
the offensive end, Like they can get their points a

754
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,880
few more ways than NC State can. And you know,

755
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,840
Will Wade keeps complaining about the defense, keeps complaining about

756
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,840
them not being physical enough. And when I think of

757
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,800
Sean Miller at tournament time. I do think he'll have

758
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,679
his guys ready. Maybe it takes another year for Will

759
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,519
Wade to get the guys in there that he really

760
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,440
wants in there, and maybe we see a different NC

761
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,000
State team next week. But I have a little last

762
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:34,559
risk next to Texas on my list here as a

763
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,280
team that I'm looking toward playing, So I would agree

764
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,840
Texas would be my side here. I just NC State

765
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,559
doesn't have enough offensive diversity, Let's put it that way.

766
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,199
They're just not a diverse enough scoring team for me,

767
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,880
and I think Texas can shut them down, or not

768
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,320
shut them down, but can at least contain them out

769
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,320
on the perimeter. I don't think that's a crazy.

770
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: Thought, Ion says.

771
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: Tian says, am I crazy for thinking Texas is the

772
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,679
better team here?

773
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: No, not not at all. I don't think at all.

774
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 1: I think I think you're crazy if you think NC

775
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:13,639
State's better than Texas right now. I'm not saying NC

776
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,400
State can't play, you know, play a good game and

777
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719
beat them. But the one thing that Miller was so

778
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,079
upset about earlier this year getting into foul trouble had

779
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,760
turnover you know, turnovers getting into foil trouble. They've they've

780
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360
cleaned up quite a bit, and that was like the

781
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,400
biggest thing for a while. It was like, well, Texas

782
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,599
doesn't have a ton of depth in the front court,

783
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,079
so if their bigs get into foul trouble, they're significantly worse.

784
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,119
But I think they've actually done a fairly good job

785
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:44,320
of not fouling as much down the stret Like January

786
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,199
on SEC play on like Texas, in my opinion was

787
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,719
much like it was consistently better than where the market

788
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,239
placed them on a data on a game to gay basis,

789
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,800
and I think that might be the case here as well.

790
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,639
My number was closer to where it is closer to pick.

791
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:06,599
But like you know, NCAA tournament winner go home. I

792
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,519
kind of like this Texas team that I I just

793
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,159
something about NC State, the fact that they've got they

794
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,880
basically need Cadeer Copeland, who was you know, on Syracuse

795
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,599
for a while, went to McNee State, and like they

796
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,639
basically need him to make plays to like get into

797
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:25,679
their offense. That's kind of an issue. That's kind of

798
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,400
an issue. So I'll say Texas, I'm not gonna lock

799
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,760
it in just yet, but I'll say Texas just for

800
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,719
the sake of arguments real quick.

801
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. I kind of mumbled turnovers. But now,

802
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,800
it was that Saturday when you, I and Kelly Ron

803
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,159
and I read this Sean Miller quote and it was

804
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:46,880
full of explicitives about them following everybody. We haven't followed anything. Yeah,

805
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:48,719
he's kind of straightened it out a little bit.

806
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,679
Speaker 1: Okay, let's yeah, So this is one that came up

807
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,960
on the show last night, that this is one where like,

808
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,880
I think cal Baptists might get crushed. I know, Kelly

809
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,440
brought up cal Baptist and I love like listen. Dominique

810
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,280
Daniels is an easy guy to root for. He stayed right,

811
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,480
He stayed at cal Baptist because he wanted to be

812
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,360
loyal to coach Croy. Didn't you know he could have

813
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,360
easily went and transferred up for his final year.

814
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,639
Speaker 2: Decides to go back to cal Baptist.

815
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,599
Speaker 1: Incredible performance by him, too much to my dismay. I

816
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:28,920
had Utah Valley and he stole that game single handedly.

817
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:33,199
But rob, they have no they don't score through the

818
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:36,480
front court at all. They had, they don't have a

819
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,840
ton of size. How are they gonna hang with Kansas here.

820
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,559
Unless Kansas just like is literally sleepwalks through this game,

821
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,039
I'd be really surprised if Kansas doesn't just like, you know,

822
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,599
drop the hammer here, just based on the fact that

823
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:55,840
like Martel Williams and Dom Daniels are, how are they

824
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,360
gonna go nuts against Kansas those two underside guards, and

825
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,519
then you still have to deal with the Kansas front court.

826
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: We talk about bad matchups for mid majors, it's a

827
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,280
bad matchup for a mid major. And first off, I

828
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,400
think a lot of Kelly's you know, case for cal

829
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:20,840
Baptist is just sort of anti Darren Peterson, which I

830
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,639
can understand a lot of folks just shrugging their shoulders

831
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:26,320
about this guy taking some time off this year and

832
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,000
not is he committed to playing? Is he got one

833
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,400
eye on the NBA. But my thought process with him,

834
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:36,039
even in the Big Twelve Conference tournament, has been he

835
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,639
needs to show the NBA scouts in the biggest moments

836
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,559
that he's you know, he's making his case for number

837
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:46,360
one pick overall. And it's a crowded field, it involves boozer,

838
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,400
it involves the bands that it involves a cuff and

839
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:52,840
right now, Darren Peterson has an opportunity against cal Baptist

840
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:59,719
to absolutely you know the way these highlight packages go

841
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,039
after or a game is over. Darren Peterson a thirty

842
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,199
point performance, he'll be the talk of whatever day they play,

843
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,280
Thursday or Friday, and the national media will make a

844
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,519
big deal out of him. But let's get past him

845
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,400
for one second here. Melvin Counsel Junior is another one

846
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,519
of those guards that you're talking about. How is cal

847
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:18,760
Baptist going to get past these bigger guards. I've been

848
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,280
absolutely a fan of Melvin Counsel Junior all season long,

849
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,920
and then inside with Badunga. I mean, this is a

850
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,800
bad matchup for cal Baptist. What they do best is

851
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,039
play defense. What they don't do well is score in

852
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,480
the interior. Like you said, so, you can see Kansas

853
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,559
cleaning the boards, even getting out on the break, probably

854
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:44,840
taking cal Baptist out of what they want to do.

855
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,000
It's just a difficult, difficult Matchup to the comment there

856
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,119
that says I'm kicking myself for not hammering Kansas minus

857
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,320
from nine and a half and it came out, I

858
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,119
think I might have overlooked it a little bit too,

859
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:58,880
just because I didn't get too deep into it. Even

860
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,840
when Kelly was mentioning, I was probably looking at something else.

861
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,280
I'm distracted. But I don't know, Adam. This looks like

862
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,880
a game where KU can sort of name their number,

863
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,960
so to speak, maybe pull Peterson out. End up game here.

864
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,920
I just find it hard to see how cal Baptist

865
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,480
is going to score. And beyond that, I find it

866
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,480
hard to see how they're gonna defend. How these Kansas

867
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,159
players don't get their share of points however they want

868
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,880
whenever they want.

869
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: Nine and a half is great. I mean, if you

870
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,320
have nine and a half, that's great. I never saw

871
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,119
it that low. That's an incredibly bad number.

872
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: If someone put at nine and a half with Kansas,

873
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,280
I figured, I think I saw thirteen, thirteen and a half.

874
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:46,320
Now it's fourteen and a half. You know, I guess

875
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,760
I'll I don't want to totally give cal Baptists zero

876
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,159
chance here because of the they are very good defensively,

877
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,559
Like that's that's one thing. Like they they're solid defensively,

878
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,920
and Kansas is still gonna have to execute their you know,

879
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,880
on offense. They're not just to be able to, you know,

880
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,639
go through the motions and score a ton on this

881
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,719
team because cal Baptists will really pack it in. Their

882
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,920
defensive rating is very good. But yeah, the I mean, listen,

883
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,719
Don Daniels is like he's like the type of guy

884
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,159
that could go off in a game like this and

885
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:21,320
suddenly you have like Don Daniels being a household name

886
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:24,480
because he went for thirty five or forty and single

887
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:28,400
handedly had them in the game. I actually fourteen and

888
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,480
a half is I don't hate the idea here the

889
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:34,920
more we talk about it of thinking cal Baptists can

890
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,440
hang around, but I don't know if they You're right, Rob,

891
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,199
it kind of feels like Kansas can name the score.

892
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,079
But like also if Kansas just kind of went through

893
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:48,199
the motions and won by nine, I wouldn't be that surprised.

894
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,639
Just the way that this team has functioned a lot

895
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,960
of this year, that's an interesting one for sure.

896
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Bill self's job, right to make sure that

897
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,599
they're motivated and ready to play. That's that's his And

898
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:03,039
I know he's had his issues this year. He doesn't

899
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:04,920
come right out and say it, but he has had

900
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,360
difficulty in his you know, seeing some of his postgame

901
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,000
conferences talk about the Peterson situation, like what can I do? Guys,

902
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:16,840
He's going to do what he wants to do. But

903
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,800
I think he'll come to play here love Counsel White

904
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,239
in Company, and they should have a good day here.

905
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,920
I'll look into their team total in that.

906
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: One, Rob, I've got one for you.

907
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,639
Speaker 1: I don't think that this team's gonna win, even though

908
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:33,119
I'll be rooting for them.

909
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,199
Speaker 2: But just the way.

910
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:37,199
Speaker 1: Sianna and Duke is going to play from a number

911
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:40,559
of possession standpoint, I think that is a lot to

912
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:43,559
ask for them to have to win that game by thirty,

913
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,800
Like if you were to take a one seed and

914
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,360
want to take the points with it. With with a sixteen,

915
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,920
Sianna sets up to cover as good as anyone I think,

916
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,719
And the reason for that is they're going to play

917
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,440
extremely slow. They're very defensive oriented. That that is going

918
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,000
to be their Their main sort of focus is the

919
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:04,760
defensive end.

920
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,519
Speaker 2: Duke. We know Duke doesn't play very fast.

921
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: They they'll They're gonna be fine with getting into some

922
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,280
of their half court offense and playing slow as well.

923
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,880
I mean, Sianna is a pretty good defensive team. Duke

924
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,480
would have to execute so flawlessly in my opinion to

925
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:24,719
win this game by thirty are they gonna win? Probably,

926
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,480
But like, even if they only win by twenty rob,

927
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:29,679
you've got an awful big cushion there.

928
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: I think this is up in the twenty eight twenty

929
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,920
I don't.

930
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: Know, twenty nine and a half, so that's what I'm saying,

931
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,079
twenty nine and a half. So like Duke would almost

932
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,360
probably have to shoot, they'd have to hit like sixty

933
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,679
percent from the field in my opinion to beat Sianna

934
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,920
by thirty points. There's just not enough possessions in the

935
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,280
game in my opinion that that's one that from a

936
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,239
just a spread standpoint, I think Sianna is a decent bet.

937
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,159
And then Darryl says, like Sianna can cover, that's about it.

938
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,119
But yeah, like what I'm not coming on here and

939
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,519
saying they're gonna win the right saying that they're not

940
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:03,000
gonna lose by thirty one or more.

941
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: And let me just give you really quick, Adam, another

942
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,280
reason why that play makes so much sense from a

943
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,559
situational standpoint, Duke's already got two guys injured, down two guys, right,

944
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:18,320
and if they're up twenty five with six left, they're

945
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,519
not taking any chances that they're going to lose another player,

946
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,719
something freakish happens. Everybody's coming off the floor for the

947
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,599
most part if you're john Shire, because you have a

948
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:31,800
game in two dates. So from Sienna's standpoint, if you're

949
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,239
within the number with six minutes left, you should be

950
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,480
even more within the number at the end of the game,

951
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:41,480
because Duke I firmly believe Duke will if they have

952
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,679
a sizeable margin, they're gonna take everybody off the floor.

953
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,639
And if they don't have a sizeable margin, then you're

954
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,280
covering anyway. So twenty nine and a half is a

955
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,599
lot of points. A at one thirty six. You talk

956
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:59,360
about correlating parlays Dog and I mean, if it's gonna

957
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,440
be a game that hits thirty six, they're telling us

958
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,639
eighty fifty six more than eighty fifty six. They're telling

959
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,480
us eighty two fifty four, eighty three, eighty three fifty three.

960
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:12,800
Basically that's a lot.

961
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:17,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, And listen, Sianna's struggles this year have come against

962
00:50:17,679 --> 00:50:20,159
teams that can really put them in his zone defense,

963
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,880
forced them to shoot, force him to shoot a lot

964
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,320
of threes. I will reference Rob the Indiana Sianna game

965
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,840
from earlier this year. We talked about that game on

966
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,880
one of our shows. I believe I gave Sianna plus

967
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,440
the points out. They were a pretty big underdog, twenty

968
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,400
something point underdog. They were getting destroyed in that game

969
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,519
early on, like it looked like Indiana was gonna run away,

970
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,159
and then as soon as the game was kind of

971
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:51,360
in hand, Indiana went and played more man and and

972
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,920
Sianna battled all the way back snuck in. I'll pull

973
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,880
the final score of that game up real quick. It

974
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,199
was the spread was like twenty three and a half,

975
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,760
twenty two, twenty three and a half. It was an

976
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,119
eighty one to sixty final, but Sianna won the second

977
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,719
half forty to thirty five. Why did they win the

978
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,639
second half so easily, Because as soon as you start

979
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:15,079
playing man against them, Gavin Doti's gonna be able to

980
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,000
work his way to the rim. He's gonna be able

981
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,840
to get to the basket. He's one of the best

982
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,519
players at that level this year. He will likely go

983
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,239
to a bigger school after this year. Tremendous mid range game,

984
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,239
so crafty getting getting to the hoop. So it's like,

985
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,239
let's say it's a thirty point game with ten minutes

986
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,280
to go, there's a real chance that Sienna wins that

987
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,320
last ten minutes anyway. Once it's like, all right, we're

988
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,480
just gonna go play play some man. We're not trying

989
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:42,960
to get her. We're not like totally held bent on,

990
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,440
like you know, squashing you defensively in those last ten minutes.

991
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,800
Maybe shy Er get some of his bench guys in.

992
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,480
I think that's a good bet. Sianna plus the points.

993
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:56,760
Someone's like, no one cares about Sienna. It's yeah, I don't.

994
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,360
I'm not saying you should care about Sienna. You care

995
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,639
about like trying to hit bets and make money. And

996
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:04,679
I'm telling you that plus twenty nine and a half

997
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,320
plus thirty and a half is a is a good bet.

998
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:10,760
That's all I'm saying. Has nothing to kind of keep

999
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,639
caring about Cianna.

1000
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,159
Speaker 3: When the goal is Cancienna get the fifty four, you're

1001
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:17,280
probably going to cover. That's not that hard of an

1002
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,119
achievable goal to get the fifty four in that instance.

1003
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,760
I do remember the ending to that Indiana game, Adam Man.

1004
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,519
That was a fun, fun ending for Sienna plus points

1005
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:25,880
that night.

1006
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,159
Speaker 1: All right, well we'll go until I mean, we started

1007
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:31,679
a few minutes late, so we'll go over by a

1008
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,559
couple of minutes until I get like yelled at to

1009
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:33,920
get off.

1010
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,199
Speaker 2: I don't.

1011
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anyone behind us, but even

1012
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,360
if there is, it's going to go up on demand.

1013
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,519
So let's go with Let's go to the winner of

1014
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:47,119
that Duke Siena game. You know, you'd assume it. You

1015
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,519
assume it's Duke, and you will get the winner of

1016
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,480
this game. But this one, Rob is quite intriguing for me.

1017
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:58,000
TCU Ohio State. I've talked about TCU's guards quite a

1018
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,239
bit this year. How I love how they out on

1019
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,840
top of you. They are defensively. TCU beat Florida earlier

1020
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,239
this year. They those guards have a great chance to

1021
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,039
really disrupt an opposing team's guards. Perimeter basketball sort of

1022
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:17,000
make you have to like, you know, they almost make

1023
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:18,800
you beat them in the front court a little bit more.

1024
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,800
And I think that's a little bit of an issue

1025
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,400
for Ohio State since they're so heavily reliant on Bruce Thornton. Rob,

1026
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,960
do you think TCU can take Thornton out of that game?

1027
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:29,599
And if so, can they win this game?

1028
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Jamie Dixon's game plan. I mean, again,

1029
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,159
you have to cut the head off the snake and

1030
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,360
Dixon has We've seen it in Big twelve play, right.

1031
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,159
I mean, that's a difficult conference with a lot of

1032
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,840
difficult guards, and TCU has shown up, and I think Adam.

1033
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,119
Another thing I think about TCU is they've gotten better

1034
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,119
as the season, and I won't say that Ohio State hasn't,

1035
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:56,400
because I think Ohio State has as well. This is

1036
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,960
such an evenly matched game in my estimation, I really

1037
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:04,360
wanted to gravitate towards TCU in this case, but it

1038
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,440
could be a three point game either way. I could

1039
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,039
see this one coming down to the wire. Obviously. The

1040
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,960
line indicates that I will say Ohio State does have

1041
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:18,960
a couple extra scoring options on their side outside of Thornton,

1042
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,199
But if you take Thornton out of it, TCUs they

1043
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,039
can disperse their points better, let's put it that way,

1044
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:31,159
than Ohio State can. And I don't know that Ohio

1045
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:34,639
State's quite as good defensively as TCU. So I, like

1046
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,440
I said, I'd like to gravitate towards TCU. Here just

1047
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,840
a scary game for me because I could see either

1048
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,840
side winning this one by three points, total has jumped

1049
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:45,960
from one forty five and a half to one forty

1050
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:50,239
six and a half. Ohio states have Ohio State games

1051
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,679
have tended to exceed that number, and TCU, for what

1052
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,000
it's worth, has found their way into some high scoring

1053
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:58,840
games too. So we'll look at that one a little further.

1054
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,639
But it's a good matchup, difficult game.

1055
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just not sold on Ohio State being able

1056
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,800
to win a game that Thornton doesn't completely go often

1057
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:15,320
and Darryl, I'll answer your question like, TCU's guards are

1058
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,519
better defensively than Ohio State's guards in my opinion. So

1059
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,360
while while TCU does not have a Bruce Thornton, they

1060
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,239
might have the more well rounded backcourt. So and and

1061
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,599
someone said, whoever controls the glass will win that game.

1062
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,440
I kind of think TCU controls the glass in that

1063
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:36,159
in that TCU Ohio State game. So if you subscribe

1064
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:38,039
to the theory that, Okay, well TCU is good enough

1065
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:40,880
defensively to neutralize thore And and they're gonna win the

1066
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,960
glass battle, then I think you have to like TCU especially.

1067
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: I think you're catching like.

1068
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,119
Speaker 1: What two and a half, I think this one got

1069
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:49,800
up to three quickly bet back down to two and

1070
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:50,199
a half.

1071
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: So that's another one.

1072
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,199
Speaker 1: Then I think we got to have our eye out. Okay,

1073
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,280
let's uh, well, let's squeeze what we got. We got

1074
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,199
about three minutes left. No one has yelled at me

1075
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,480
at so I think you know that was that was

1076
00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:07,639
my fault because it was my microphone that just would

1077
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,199
not work.

1078
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: Could not figure out why. Let's finish up.

1079
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:13,599
Speaker 1: I threw the Akron hoodie on today, Rob, So let's

1080
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:18,159
finish up with some Akron Texas Tech. I'll I'll let

1081
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:21,079
you go first. I like Akron here. I think Akron

1082
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:28,079
could hang around in this game without topping. Texas Tech

1083
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:31,000
isn't as big, So talk me off the zips or

1084
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:33,760
is this an underdog that you might get to the

1085
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,239
window with?

1086
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 3: Well, I think the first major, major, significant difference in

1087
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,239
this game is the fact that Texas Tech has played

1088
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,960
I mean, this is a significant step down in defensive

1089
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,719
class for them. Texas Tech's been asked to play some

1090
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,159
of the best defenses in the nation this year inside

1091
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,920
that conference, we know it's a grinded The mac defenses,

1092
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:55,920
I don't know make a case for any of them

1093
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,159
being any good. None of them are. So that's your

1094
00:56:59,199 --> 00:57:03,039
significant difference, another edge, or let's just say the positive

1095
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:05,159
on the Acrons side, as they can score on just

1096
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:07,800
about anybody. All of that. When I was thinking this

1097
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,320
through Argia this morning, it was pushing me toward over

1098
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,960
in this game. I really think that the Texas Tech

1099
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:18,000
side has found a way to score. Maybe not as much,

1100
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:22,199
but they found a way to score without JT topping

1101
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,960
Inside this lineup, they do have solid you know, that

1102
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,760
trio of Atwell and Anderson and Watson. These guys they

1103
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,840
can hit threes as well as anybody in the country.

1104
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,480
Once they get going, I think there's gonna be points here, Adam,

1105
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:40,280
because I do believe that Akrons got the ingredients offensively,

1106
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:43,519
and I just think that Texas Tech is gonna find

1107
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,360
as they get into this game that this defense is

1108
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,280
nothing like Guyawa State, This defense is nothing like Houston,

1109
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,480
This defense is nothing like what we saw all season long,

1110
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,599
and they'll be able to score their share too. So

1111
00:57:55,719 --> 00:58:00,480
for me, it's an overplay. I haven't gotten there yet.

1112
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,760
Like we've said so often this morning, we've kind of

1113
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,199
taken our time in assessing these games and trying to

1114
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:08,760
get off our initial reactions. But this number is one

1115
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,760
fifty five and a half, and I could see here

1116
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,039
Akron as the underdog. I could see Akron finding their

1117
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:19,719
way to seventy five. And if that's the case, then

1118
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,239
this game is going to get over the number.

1119
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,079
Speaker 1: I guess the reason I'm so inclined to like look

1120
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:29,639
forward to dog in this game is that, like Akron's

1121
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,639
very small team. We've known this all all year. They're

1122
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:35,519
just small. They take a lot of shots. They're gonna

1123
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,360
probably need to hit a high percentage of threes to

1124
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,039
be in this game. But like Texas, Tech's not going

1125
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:44,480
to overwhelm you with like big time size at this point.

1126
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:46,400
So like, if it does get into it like a

1127
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,159
shootout type game, Acron can shoot with anyone. That's what

1128
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,719
the appeal of this Acron team. But that'd be you know,

1129
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,400
the way you're talking about it. I think the over

1130
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,400
might actually make more sense because they could give up

1131
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,960
a boatloaded well, so that'll be an interesting game. But

1132
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:04,440
I still lean Akron, But you make a good case

1133
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,320
for the over, it might actually be the better way

1134
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:06,719
to play that.

1135
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,119
Speaker 3: And don't discount John Gross's coaching ability in a tournament situation.

1136
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:13,280
I mean, he's been here before. He's a good head coach.

1137
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't think he's ever won run Rob.

1138
00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:19,239
Speaker 1: I think he's over in the tournament, so he's he's

1139
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,119
very due for a win.

1140
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: In one of these games.

1141
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,199
Speaker 3: And McCaslin too. We won't sell mccaslyn short on the

1142
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:25,679
other side.

1143
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well we'll wrap it up here. This

1144
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:33,159
was This was sort of so I saw some people

1145
00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:37,679
talking about the n i T. That'll be a probably

1146
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,440
mostly what we talk about the next two days on

1147
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,199
this show. That's why I didn't go any any n

1148
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:47,199
i T today, So tomorrow we will. So Tomorrow and

1149
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:50,159
Wednesday we'll be focusing on the games that are on

1150
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,840
Tomorrow and Wednesday, So we'll talk about the first four

1151
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,280
and then we'll probably dig pretty deep into the n

1152
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,599
i T the next two days, since those are the

1153
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:01,079
games that will be played on that day. Go back

1154
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,960
and check out our selection Sunday Instant Reaction Special because

1155
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,760
we had a bunch of thoughts, good discussion for about

1156
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,480
an hour and a half, and we'll continue to come

1157
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:13,320
on full court press. Not going to discourage you asking

1158
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,079
a question about a Thursday or Friday game, But the

1159
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:19,000
next two days, we'll likely focus on what's ahead of us,

1160
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,599
great NIT matchups and then the first four. So thank

1161
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,280
you guys for tuning in today. We'll be back tomorrow

1162
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,199
ten am Eastern. I'll be back with a working mic.

1163
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,239
It will be at ten am Eastern, not ten ten,

1164
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,159
and we will see you guys tomorrow