Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 2: Wow. Is that correct? October eleven, twenty twenty four. Time
Speaker 2: is flying by geez, about a month from now, and
Speaker 2: I'll be leaving to go to Dallas. Everybody, so you know,
Speaker 2: anybody wants to chip into the care and feeding of
Speaker 2: the trained monkey that's going to be there doing the
Speaker 2: MC job at the Lancer conference would be helpful. I'm
Speaker 2: also going to have Frankie and missus O with me,
Speaker 2: so you know anything is going to be helpful. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not able to even afford the trip. Actually, if
Speaker 2: it wasn't being sponsored, I wouldn't go. But if you're
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Speaker 2: a month and a week away from when I got
Speaker 2: to leave for that, because that'll be on the twenty second,
Speaker 2: the twenty second of the twenty fourth of November. Other
Speaker 2: doings happening is that the rated why thing is going
Speaker 2: to change patreons again. That's coming up soon so for
Speaker 2: those of you that actually listen to that, announcements will
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Speaker 2: Enjoy that and a lot of other weird stuff happening,
Speaker 2: plus whatever's happening on your minds in the news in
Speaker 2: the world. That's what we're here to talk about here
Speaker 2: on a live Friday night just about eight minutes after
Speaker 2: eight here pm. That is on the East coast of
Speaker 2: what we used to call America, and the o'ceelly effect
Speaker 2: is live with open lines. I got at least one
Speaker 2: hundred lines open and I never need them all. So
Speaker 2: call in, join us, voice your opinion be heard. And
Speaker 2: executive producer for tonight is our friend mister Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: just to let you know, because he actually chipped in
Speaker 2: something this week, So therefore your name is out there,
Speaker 2: my brother, and anybody who does while we're on the air,
Speaker 2: same thing will happen here tonight or on Aaron's show
Speaker 2: or going into next week, which I planned four shows
Speaker 2: and get one or two done seems like every week.
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna change that. Though. I got a couple
Speaker 2: of solid, solid guests coming up leading into the Lancer Conference.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to book Robert Grodin shortly to do a
Speaker 2: special on the Zubruder film and a few other things
Speaker 2: that might be bigger. Also this week we had a
Speaker 2: bombshell allegedly from Jefferson Morley who put out a thing
Speaker 2: about a whistleblower regarding the JFK thing, and I talked
Speaker 2: about that with Joe Barelli on Tuesday, which you guys
Speaker 2: might have heard that podcast. It is out on the feed.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's about what got done this week. And
Speaker 2: a couple of recordings that can't be released just yet
Speaker 2: got done this week, but not a lot of live shows,
Speaker 2: so my apologies. But next week we're going to have
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on, including I want to
Speaker 2: return to the DJ shows a few other things, so
Speaker 2: we're going to load up that stream with a lot
Speaker 2: of different stuff on the replay. I think I put
Speaker 2: hell in high water in the replay feed this week
Speaker 2: as well, so it is interesting. The radio stations go
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, but we are only live a
Speaker 2: few times a week. Also, Aaron Fronz will be live
Speaker 2: tonight at ten pm Eastern with the Age of Transitions
Speaker 2: and at eleven pm the Uncle Show, So that's all happening,
Speaker 2: but up until then, for the next hour and fifty minutes,
Speaker 2: you can call and join us and be heard on
Speaker 2: the O'Kelly Effect. Three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six. That's the number to call in. Three
Speaker 2: one nine five two seven five zero one six. Also,
Speaker 2: I was a bit sickly this week again. What else
Speaker 2: is old, Chuck? I know, uh, my dog Busters having
Speaker 2: a little problem tonight. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 2: with him, but I got him in the office, so
Speaker 2: we might hear from Buster during the broadcast. But I
Speaker 2: want to hear from you three one nine five to
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one. And also I'd love to
Speaker 2: see any of you guys show up in Dallas or
Speaker 2: show up on the virtual feed. I've got some unauthorized
Speaker 2: T shirts that are on the way. Hopefully those will
Speaker 2: arrive from Vietnam before I have to leave next month,
Speaker 2: but can't get imprinted in the US. It's too damn expensive.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we got a few things like that happening
Speaker 2: and some other specials coming up. And I gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I'm just even though I haven't put
Speaker 2: out a lot of live shows, I've done some extra
Speaker 2: work this week, and I'm exhausted, so I'm depending on
Speaker 2: you guys to carry the show along with my co
Speaker 2: host b Pete, who is with me on Friday nights,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna check in with him, probably get a
Speaker 2: weather report here about how his work week was. And
Speaker 2: of course the new little Skype group is talking. I'm
Speaker 2: not part of the Ocelli Skype group right now. There's
Speaker 2: the Ocelli Cruise Skype group which has like four of
Speaker 2: us in it, but there's a bigger one that I
Speaker 2: guess Kevin from Florida is running, and I'm not on it,
Speaker 2: so I don't know what's going on in that group,
Speaker 2: but I do get messages and screenshots occasionally, and if
Speaker 2: you guys know who Kevin is, you can reach out
Speaker 2: to him. But I'm not sharing his information. He can
Speaker 2: do that himself apparently. So anyway, all that's happening. I
Speaker 2: did try and get in touch with the Jimmy James
Speaker 2: fan Club this week, and I got a very weird,
Speaker 2: cryptic response, and they told me that they might call
Speaker 2: in one of these weeks before I go to Dallas
Speaker 2: with the guy who's got the little Facebook page which
Speaker 2: I guess is a secret group on Facebook. Now. I
Speaker 2: told him please contact Ppete at least on Facebook and
Speaker 2: let him in on the Jimmy James Fan Club because
Speaker 2: I think you'd love to see that, wouldn't you be, Pete?
Speaker 3: Yes, I wod co.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bpte definitely wants to be in on the
Speaker 2: Jimmy James Fan Club, So let him in. You don't
Speaker 2: even have to let me in, Guys, it's fine, but
Speaker 2: let be Pete in so he can see it. I'd
Speaker 2: love to get some reports on this. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: and hopefully I'll be taking your calls. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm looking for you on the switchboard. So three one
Speaker 2: nine five two seven five zero one six that's the
Speaker 2: number to call. I see Aaron Franz is already in
Speaker 2: the Ocelli chat room and we do have a caller
Speaker 2: on the line. But before we get to that caller, Bepete,
Speaker 2: what's going on with you this week or in the
Speaker 2: news or whatever? Bring up whatever you want, my brother go.
Speaker 4: Oh, just kind of looking at headlines right now. I'm
Speaker 4: kind of interested in this seven to eleven story. They're
Speaker 4: closing four hundred stores, yet they just opened two new
Speaker 4: ones over in Greeville, and they bought U Speedway last year,
Speaker 4: so interesting to see what's going on there. I mean,
Speaker 4: wah oh, and we get a wah wah coming in.
Speaker 4: So we've got Sheets huah wah, seven eleven Speedway, Circle
Speaker 4: k or Kangaroos trying to see what other large chain
Speaker 4: we can get going here.
Speaker 3: But they all seem to be doing well.
Speaker 2: Hey, wo Wawa is creeping into Georgia too. Now I
Speaker 2: love wah wah. That's a Northeastern thing. I would. I
Speaker 2: think we'd have a better class and convenience store down
Speaker 2: here if we can get those. These circle Caves are
Speaker 2: starting to suck. Honestly, they were really good well you know,
Speaker 2: and now they're starting to suck. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Circle Cave Speedway tried to get into the food business
Speaker 4: after Sheets came down here and started kicking everybody's butt,
Speaker 4: and Sheets, of course, was started to compete correctly with
Speaker 4: wah Wah. That's their biggest competition. They're both out of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: So Seats came down this way. Wah Wah has figured
Speaker 4: let's get see what you know, party actual we can get.
Speaker 4: So they're moving down this way and they're going like
Speaker 4: you said, Georgia, I think they're going all the way
Speaker 4: to Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Wawaws. Well you think that's there. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: kind of normal for to go to well for Wya
Speaker 2: or anything from the Northeast end up in Florida. Sort
Speaker 2: of makes sense because Florida's loaded with transplants from the northeast.
Speaker 2: You know, they get a little older, they don't want
Speaker 2: to be in the in the in the winter no more,
Speaker 2: so they go all the way to hell down south.
Speaker 3: And we have a term for that down here. It's
Speaker 3: called damn Yankees.
Speaker 2: Well you say damn yankees, I think people used to
Speaker 2: call them snowbirds right where they would go down there
Speaker 2: for the winter and then they'd go back.
Speaker 3: Among the snowbirds.
Speaker 4: It's the damn Yankees and the halfbacks to drive us crazy.
Speaker 2: Halfback, Wait a minute, what's a now? I know what
Speaker 2: a damn Yankee is, basically, but what's a halfback?
Speaker 4: Halfback is somebody moved from New York on Jersey down
Speaker 4: to Florida and then decided to go but only went
Speaker 4: halfway back and ended up in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense. Weird story out of North Carolina
Speaker 2: this week too. Supposedly Kamala Harris had a photo op going.
Speaker 2: And I'm checking into this now, trying to get at
Speaker 2: my sources in North Carolina. Not you be, Pete, but
Speaker 2: of course if you got any information, I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear it. But apparently there was some photo op about
Speaker 2: hurricane relief supplies being loaded onto a C one thirty
Speaker 2: and and then then they never sent the plane allegedly. Uh,
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking that's probably not true, but then again,
Speaker 2: it's very difficult to travel down.
Speaker 3: I would not put it past. We have seen the
Speaker 3: stories that had come out of western end of the state.
Speaker 3: We had a video.
Speaker 4: In fact, I think the Pentagon or National Guard would
Speaker 4: have denied this had somebody not gotten video of it.
Speaker 4: And that was a Blackhawk coming in and roto washing
Speaker 4: a drop site for donations, and they blue donations.
Speaker 3: And sand and everything.
Speaker 4: Apparently the pilots were grounding and they're doing an investigation.
Speaker 4: Now there's a lot of there's a lot of animosity
Speaker 4: and bad blood out in the western part of state
Speaker 4: right now, some of the stuff that's been going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these kind of things honestly happened all the
Speaker 2: time when hurricane relief starts stretching, you know, people's nerves,
Speaker 2: and they try and involve a lot of different agencies,
Speaker 2: and you get these guys, you know.
Speaker 3: The deal though they didn't show.
Speaker 4: Nobody from the federal government showed up for a week
Speaker 4: after this thing happened.
Speaker 3: And in the first four well, i'll say the first
Speaker 3: three days.
Speaker 4: Once the storm cleared on Friday, people went to work,
Speaker 4: and these private citizens got together with planes and helicopters
Speaker 4: and donations and I mean for everything from food to diapers,
Speaker 4: to gasoline to chainsaws.
Speaker 3: They started this operation.
Speaker 4: And when the Feds came in a week later, they
Speaker 4: tried to come in and muscle some people out of
Speaker 4: the way, saying, Okay, we're.
Speaker 3: Here now we'll take over.
Speaker 4: And people looked at him and said, kiss off, you're
Speaker 4: not just get away, keep.
Speaker 3: Your hands off what we're doing. If you're going to
Speaker 3: go do something, go do it.
Speaker 4: But you guys didn't have enough, Damn dustine show up
Speaker 4: here for a freaking week.
Speaker 3: Just go to hell.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's Superstorm Sandy right up in the
Speaker 2: Northeast when that happened, Now, I was in the middle
Speaker 2: of where the Big black was and all that literally
Speaker 2: like no power for three weeks, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: And that meant no gasoline. You ended up with a
Speaker 2: really dead spot because people couldn't even get out of there.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get gas for their generators, They couldn't get
Speaker 2: out of the area far enough right to go get
Speaker 2: gasoline and stuff like that. So people were really stuck.
Speaker 2: And then food didn't get in, so a lot of
Speaker 2: the stores just shuttered. And that's the way it was, right.
Speaker 2: So during that time, though, no federal relief, and another
Speaker 2: storm came in and screwed things up again. Because as
Speaker 2: soon as they got the power back on, this is
Speaker 2: true by the way it was out for like three weeks,
Speaker 2: they get the power on, and within twenty four hours
Speaker 2: or forty eight hours, a giant nor'easter snowstorm came through
Speaker 2: and you know, we got a blizzard basically, and it
Speaker 2: knocked everything back out, you know, for another couple of days.
Speaker 2: So that all went on for weeks, and honestly, it
Speaker 2: was people on the ground, and I've said this many times,
Speaker 2: the churches and stuff like that, and that worked together
Speaker 2: and got together with some other people who had some
Speaker 2: resources and organized it and got it together so that
Speaker 2: there was water available because you know, drinking water, the
Speaker 2: water you know, filtration plant was screwed up, so they
Speaker 2: were telling you if you're gonna take water out of
Speaker 2: your tap, boil it and this and that it's gonna
Speaker 2: be dirty and all that. So, I mean, all these
Speaker 2: things had to come through, and if it wasn't for
Speaker 2: people taking care of each other, we would have been,
Speaker 2: you know, sitting there and it got really strange in Jersey.
Speaker 2: So honestly, then the federal government FEMA finally comes through
Speaker 2: with everything, and it was nice because they gave you
Speaker 2: checks for you know, even if you lost a bunch
Speaker 2: of your food, which you did, if you had stuff
Speaker 2: in a freezer or whatever. You definitely lost food. You
Speaker 2: lost a lot of other resources. They were giving you,
Speaker 2: you know, funds for that and funds for other damages
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: the funny part about this is, even though we were
Speaker 2: without electricity for three weeks, didn't really change the power
Speaker 2: bill much in Jersey, which I found very interesting, you know,
Speaker 2: but I was crazy of course anyways, but I find
Speaker 2: this interesting. Every time, really people on the ground have
Speaker 2: to get involved and take care of it. To start
Speaker 2: with If the Feds want to come in after that
Speaker 2: and help out, whatever they bring, great bonus, it's gravy.
Speaker 2: But the truth is, if we don't learn how to
Speaker 2: take care of each other better, we're going to be
Speaker 2: really you know, sol when it comes to these kinds
Speaker 2: of things. That's the reality of it. And Florida just
Speaker 2: got hit hard now by this Milton, Right, Hurricane Milton
Speaker 2: they're calling it or whatever. It was Category four storms
Speaker 2: swept out of the added the golf and just hit
Speaker 2: the hell out of the state of Florida again.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was a three when it went in.
Speaker 4: They said they've had five dead and three billion without
Speaker 4: power right now, but not as much damage as they expected.
Speaker 2: Well, see, you get some good news with the bed. Anyways,
Speaker 2: we do have callers, so I don't know if you
Speaker 2: want to start picking up on the callers. Got a
Speaker 2: few of them on the line. Looks like there's three now, Uh,
Speaker 2: so I'd like to start getting to them. You ready
Speaker 2: to go there and we'll get more of an update
Speaker 2: from you later in the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead and uh and bring them on.
Speaker 4: I almost stand a couple of headlines here to see
Speaker 4: what's going on out there. But other than that, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, we can always cover the Kamala gas all
Speaker 4: week call them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well we can go kamala yeah, because now
Speaker 2: they got a shirt out there with like a comma
Speaker 2: on it, right and uh and and then law so
Speaker 2: that you know, people pronounce it correctly. I guess whatever
Speaker 2: that l a oh, is that what it is? I
Speaker 2: don't know what do I know at this point, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the kids are out there saying. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm really getting old here, I'm getting old
Speaker 2: and sickly and just cranky, and it is what it is.
Speaker 2: So let's get to our first caller.
Speaker 3: I'm not ready, Yeah, go ahead and bring the first one.
Speaker 3: All I'm not ready for the kids to start taking over.
Speaker 4: I mean, if we're going to have this much nonsense
Speaker 4: going on with min as, we'll have something we can
Speaker 4: legitimately blame it on.
Speaker 2: Well, right, let's let's get that new energy in there, right,
Speaker 2: so that somebody else can be blamed for this, because uh,
Speaker 2: you know Gen X was the stay at home generation anyway,
Speaker 2: So whatever boomers are tired, all right, so come on now,
Speaker 2: let's go Generation y Z whatever xx Z y LGBT,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell you think you are, bring it on
Speaker 2: and get to work.
Speaker 3: Current what's that? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I know that they're
Speaker 2: like you know, they were millennials and they started splitting them up,
Speaker 2: and like I said, you go after X, you go
Speaker 2: to Y and then Z. I guess generation Z. I
Speaker 2: don't know if the current generation is generation Z or
Speaker 2: you know what? What are you going to do? Start blaming?
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanky, let's let's go ahead and get a call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that. Okay, So three two one area code,
Speaker 2: We'll go to you first because I'm taking everybody in
Speaker 2: order here. So three two one area code, you're live,
Speaker 2: and whatever's on your mind? Hello, Kenneth? Yes, ah, is
Speaker 2: this is this Gabby's husband? Is this Gabby's husband?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Ah?
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought I record this. Yes, so you already
Speaker 2: heard me mentioned lancer then? Right?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 8: Oh I guess I am called right?
Speaker 2: Ah okay, Because I was reminding people that if they
Speaker 2: go to Assassination Conference dot com and they want to
Speaker 2: sign up and be there either virtually or in person, uh,
Speaker 2: you can use the code o' shelley ten to get
Speaker 2: ten percent off and uh you know, I just had
Speaker 2: a conversation this week with with our friend Scooter Joe
Speaker 2: Joe Birelli, Joey the Scooter whatever you want to call him,
Speaker 2: Joe Borelli earlier this week, and we went over that
Speaker 2: story once again. He wants me to film him on
Speaker 2: a scooter this year because he's going back the answer. Uh,
Speaker 2: and we'll both be there in person, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be the MC so, Uh, you know, gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. I'm not doing a presentation. I thought
Speaker 2: about it, but I didn't have the right material as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. But who knows, Maybe I'll do
Speaker 2: something impromptu.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And there's gonna be some group discussions in the breakout room,
Speaker 2: so you never know what you might get, especially considering
Speaker 2: we got Gail nick Jackson there. Bob Croden's gonna be there. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna be there with me. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: really yeah.
Speaker 7: I'm actually this right now.
Speaker 2: Actually, Oh you're with Bob right now? Excellent? Well look
Speaker 2: tell him, I said, hi, you know, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: definitely look forward to sitting down with him once again. Hey,
Speaker 2: how you doing, Bob Groden? How you doing doing Okay, Bob,
Speaker 2: just taking my you know, my Friday night phone calls here.
Speaker 2: It's glad to hear from you. I'm looking real forward
Speaker 2: to doing a presentation or watching your presentations, and actually
Speaker 2: I want to book you for a show coming up
Speaker 2: soon right before the conference. I'd like to do something
Speaker 2: specifically focused on the Zabruter film because I'm getting tired
Speaker 2: of certain questions and i want to bring on the
Speaker 2: best expert I know to go over the fact that, look,
Speaker 2: the Zubruter film is a legitimate document. That's what I
Speaker 2: want to go over on the show with you. So
Speaker 2: if you wouldn't mind, I want to book you in
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks on the show to sit down,
Speaker 2: just you and me and talk about this and say, look,
Speaker 2: here's why this is being said, and you know, look,
Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of noise out there as usual,
Speaker 2: but let's get to the real real. This is one
Speaker 2: of the most important pieces of evidence that we have
Speaker 2: access to in the public, and we need to remind
Speaker 2: people about it. It's not something that is you know,
Speaker 2: still not you can still mind this for information as
Speaker 2: we speak, Bob, even sixty plus years later, there's information
Speaker 2: to be gotten from that film still and it's very important.
Speaker 2: So I want to bring you on to talk about
Speaker 2: that if you don't mind.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'd love to. That'd be great.
Speaker 2: So you're probably out with Ken doing something or you're
Speaker 2: in the middle of something, so I don't want to
Speaker 2: keep you, but I really appreciate you dropping in with
Speaker 2: us here.
Speaker 7: It's it's good to be able to do it. Look
Speaker 7: forward to doing the show with you person excellent.
Speaker 2: Could you give us one little hint about what your
Speaker 2: presentation is going to be on this year, specifically at Lancer.
Speaker 7: And you already mentioned it. There was so much garbage
Speaker 7: getting put out there by people who pretend to know
Speaker 7: about film and things of that nature, and they don't
Speaker 7: know when that stop from a bus stop yep. And
Speaker 7: they just have no idea. And there's a lot of
Speaker 7: stuff to show why they're how they're wrong. And the
Speaker 7: Zappruiter film is the single most important piece of evisons
Speaker 7: we've gone and these people are going crazy trying to
Speaker 7: disprove it. The crazy thing is, though they're agreeing with us,
Speaker 7: yes there was a conspiracy, the greatest proof that there
Speaker 7: is is the Zubruter film, and they just knock it
Speaker 7: down because they're trying to make their own headway into
Speaker 7: the conspiracy right.
Speaker 2: And I actually talked about you on Tuesday show and
Speaker 2: I said, you know, it's really great if you go
Speaker 2: to the conference, you can actually sit there with somebody
Speaker 2: who worked with the HSCA who you know, has worked
Speaker 2: with the Zubruter film now for over half a century,
Speaker 2: and who has been out there, who has released more
Speaker 2: visual documents on the case than any other single person
Speaker 2: that I know of, for certain, and that's Bob Groden.
Speaker 2: I said, you know that alone is worth the price
Speaker 2: of admission, is what I said on Tuesday show. And uh,
Speaker 2: I'm not just trying to kiss up to you, you
Speaker 2: know that. But but I've always appreciated your work and uh,
Speaker 2: and I've always told people, look, you don't know anything
Speaker 2: about the visual part of the evidence unless you have
Speaker 2: the three big books by Bob Groden, for sure. And uh,
Speaker 2: your your videos are absolutely essential for people to get
Speaker 2: to be familiar with a whole range of visual evidence
Speaker 2: that's available to allow them to actually study the events
Speaker 2: that blossom into this case, which is one of the
Speaker 2: most studied historical events in human history. Honestly, so I mean,
Speaker 2: what else can I say, Right, Bob.
Speaker 7: I appreciate it's very kind of you. I'll be glad
Speaker 7: to talk to people about the film film, this film,
Speaker 7: eighteen films to talk about.
Speaker 2: Right, But there are also many interesting aspects to some
Speaker 2: of these other films. And again I love that that collection.
Speaker 2: You have the Assassination Films collection out there. I think
Speaker 2: it first became available in like nineteen eighty nine or whatever,
Speaker 2: but nobody has put out a better collection of visual
Speaker 2: evidence out there on one video. It's amazing, you know.
Speaker 2: So I always recommend to people, Look, you have to
Speaker 2: get those things and the big books. You know, first
Speaker 2: of all the Killing of the President I think it's
Speaker 2: called the first one, and then you have the Search
Speaker 2: for Lee Harvey Oswald and then finally Absolute Proof, which
Speaker 2: again this is thousands of photographs that you know, this
Speaker 2: is the most accessible way to end up owning them.
Speaker 7: So, you know, like I said, books at least twenty
Speaker 7: two hundred pictures.
Speaker 2: Well there you go. I said thousands, twenty two hundred
Speaker 2: close close to what I was saying. Called but it's amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, plus those magazines are neat too. I mean,
Speaker 2: I own all that stuff Uh and uh really really pleased,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, they're they're, they're, They're all still available, but
Speaker 7: very very few of them. Uh and jfk ast the
Speaker 7: proof is still available. The only one is in print.
Speaker 7: We have a handful rest of the other ones too. Well,
Speaker 7: we'll discuss that when I do your show.
Speaker 2: Right, and a lot of that stuff will be available
Speaker 2: at the conference. Uh so just saying. In fact, I
Speaker 2: might even bring a couple of a couple of my
Speaker 2: extra cap I always bring extra copies of those with
Speaker 2: me to places. By the way.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: That used to be one of my favorite gifts for
Speaker 2: somebody who was first getting into the case. I'd say, look,
Speaker 2: you know what, start here. Uh, this will give you
Speaker 2: the most relatable way to you know, have a lens
Speaker 2: into the case. Uh So, anyway, Bob, I'll let you go.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you getting on the phone there. You know,
Speaker 2: if Ken wants to get back on and talk a
Speaker 2: little bit, more than happy to hear from him.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, you're sitting right here, excellent.
Speaker 5: Jackie White for a barbecue.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well you're having a barbecue in the backyard. Oh, Jane,
Speaker 7: and I said that you couldn't be here.
Speaker 2: Listen, I wish I could be there. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: bringing I'm bringing my wife and uh and and my
Speaker 2: son with me to Dallas this time. So uh yeah,
Speaker 2: my my ten year old will be with me and
Speaker 2: missus O will be there, so uh we can introduce
Speaker 2: our missuses to each other. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: we'll have time for a barbecue, but maybe we could,
Speaker 2: you know, make another stop over at Campeeses or something
Speaker 2: like we did last year.
Speaker 7: There you go. So I'll tell you what. You get
Speaker 7: in touch with Canton, let him know when you want
Speaker 7: me to do it. And you know, absolutely the contact
Speaker 7: INFI to get in touch with you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely look forward to it. Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 1: Here he is right, so.
Speaker 2: Ken, I got a couple other callers, but anything you
Speaker 2: want to drop out here, I mean we we definitely
Speaker 2: promoted the conference. That's a great surprise, little little quick
Speaker 2: discussion with Bob uh and I appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: I do want to book him in the next couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, So I'm gonna contact you and Gabby about that, okay,
Speaker 2: uh and uh and now I will arrange it. But
Speaker 2: anything else you want to drop in here, nothing I
Speaker 2: can think of it. Now all right, well, you're gonna
Speaker 2: be stuck with me all weekend, my friend. Between you know,
Speaker 2: we're gonna I'm gonna introduce my wife to your wife,
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna steal you for a while because
Speaker 2: uh Ken, Ken is like he's the best when he's there.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not on stage or anything, but definitely
Speaker 2: was it was him and me trying to juggle everything
Speaker 2: last year. It was crazy. I didn't know I was
Speaker 2: gonna be doing all that other stuff. I thought I
Speaker 2: was showing up and be like, Okay, your next presenter
Speaker 2: is this guy, and I could walk away, but we
Speaker 2: had a lot of work to do and it was
Speaker 2: really worth it to pull it off last year. So
Speaker 2: and it was a great time. So I'm really looking
Speaker 2: forward to hanging out with you again this year.
Speaker 7: Yes, same year, all right, So this, dearbol go a lot.
Speaker 4: Better than past a year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we got plans in hand a
Speaker 2: little bit better this time, you know, so hopefully hopefully,
Speaker 2: but you know, always things are gonna pop up. So anyway, Ken,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you go, but you get back to
Speaker 2: your barbecue, and I'm looking forward to seeing you in
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and yeah, and also tell Gabby
Speaker 2: I'm working on those pens. But they're giving me a
Speaker 2: hard time about putting the logo on the pens. So
Speaker 2: but I'm working on them. Okay, all right, all right, Marie,
Speaker 2: Well think hey, if nothing else though, I'll be seeing
Speaker 2: Ken on the twenty second of November, because it's the
Speaker 2: twenty second of the twenty fourth. I don't think I
Speaker 2: gave the date. B Pete, do you want to ask something?
Speaker 2: I put Ken on hold, but you want to ask
Speaker 2: something before we go to the next caller.
Speaker 3: No, I was going to ask Bob.
Speaker 4: But I'll just whenever you guys do a show, I'll
Speaker 4: if you've got a section for people to ask questions.
Speaker 3: If not, I'll submit it to you and you can
Speaker 3: ask them for them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, always, whatever it is, I definitely want to
Speaker 2: you know, I want to put all the questions to
Speaker 2: him and be like, look, let's just lay this out here.
Speaker 3: You know what I wanted his view.
Speaker 4: Remember we had the discussion about several I know three
Speaker 4: people out there that claimed that they saw this supproval
Speaker 4: film but they saw a different version, and they could
Speaker 4: always say that they saw it, but they could never
Speaker 4: it was under all I can't say where, and I
Speaker 4: can't say what was going on, but this is.
Speaker 8: What we saw.
Speaker 4: And I thought, well, if you can mention the fact
Speaker 4: that you saw it, but you can't mention where or when,
Speaker 4: I don't put any faith in what the hell you're saying.
Speaker 4: And I'm just wondering what he's what his reaction is
Speaker 4: to some of those claims.
Speaker 3: I mean, is there another print out there that they
Speaker 3: may have seen that.
Speaker 4: He knows of that had something different in it?
Speaker 2: Well, I know another print exists. And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I know it because I saw something like that. But
Speaker 2: I can tell you where I saw it. It was
Speaker 2: in a basement in New York City. And they used
Speaker 2: to run you know, rare films and films that are
Speaker 2: not necessarily legal to make, and bootleg stuff and all
Speaker 2: these things. And they had him in these little basements
Speaker 2: which are located directly underneath certain storefronts in the East Side,
Speaker 2: okay of New York. And what I saw was a
Speaker 2: version of the Zuppruterer film that apparently doesn't come from
Speaker 2: Bob's print because it wasn't stabilized. Okay, anything you see
Speaker 2: that stabilized is all comes from Bob. He's the one
Speaker 2: who stabilized that thing, know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of steady and it looks smooth, and a lot
Speaker 2: of people have pointed to that as, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: that's that shows you right there that it's a fake,
Speaker 2: and and I'm like, no, it doesn't. That just shows
Speaker 2: you it came from Bob's copy because he stabilized it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be curious to know if he's had a
Speaker 4: conversation about this with other people that have made the
Speaker 4: claim of seeing it.
Speaker 2: No, but but see, I'm gonna put exactly but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put what I saw to him, you know, which
Speaker 2: is a slightly different version of it, because again, it
Speaker 2: was not entirely stable. So I don't know if it
Speaker 2: came from the original or what. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if.
Speaker 4: It came from say was that the only difference is
Speaker 4: that it wasn't stable or did it have things that
Speaker 4: it that isn't in the one we're all familiar with.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to bring up all the differences on
Speaker 2: the show. Okay, I'm gonna hold that until then. There
Speaker 2: are a few other differences, like there is film before
Speaker 2: and after the sequence on Elm Street, okay, and the
Speaker 2: film before and after that I've never seen in anybody's
Speaker 2: copy when they've shown them at any of these you know,
Speaker 2: at any of these conferences or anything. There was stuff
Speaker 2: on there that was not that was not part of
Speaker 2: that day on Elm Street, okay, just like I've seen
Speaker 2: and I described this stuff to Gail off Air, stuff
Speaker 2: that I saw in the Knicks film that she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was on my grandfather's print. Where did you see that?
Speaker 2: You know, because I knew about there's like a cheerleader
Speaker 2: and he went and he filmed like a football game.
Speaker 2: So I was telling her what I could remember is
Speaker 2: there's a cheerleader and there's like lights, it's at night,
Speaker 2: and this and that, and she's like, yeah, that's the
Speaker 2: rest of what he had on that role of film.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, I saw that before, you know,
Speaker 2: not just the sequence on the one side street and
Speaker 2: then he turns to the other side, you know, and
Speaker 2: then you see on Elm Street and you get the headshot, which,
Speaker 2: according to what she explains, is that he put it
Speaker 2: under his arm and kind of just turned the other
Speaker 2: way and didn't realize it was still on like that's
Speaker 2: why it's at that weird angle, like if you see
Speaker 2: it in its original form. And Bob knows this too,
Speaker 2: I'll talk to him about that on the show as well.
Speaker 2: It's it looks like the car's going up hill, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, the way he's holding the camera.
Speaker 2: But I've seen that film in that format where it
Speaker 2: looks like it's you know, but he corrected it when
Speaker 2: he showed it, Bob, so you know, so he stabilized
Speaker 2: some stuff and corrected some stuff so that it's a
Speaker 2: lot easier to watch visually, you know, because people with
Speaker 2: problems like what do you call that vertigo and things
Speaker 2: like that, they get dizzy trying to watch a film
Speaker 2: that's like shaken around all over the place, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, much like the LC Dorman thing.
Speaker 4: Oh it's all right, And didn't Zippruder suffer from vertigo?
Speaker 4: Because that's why his secretary was bond and holding him
Speaker 4: holding his jacket.
Speaker 2: See yeah, I want to get that detail from Bob actually,
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure you're right that he suffered from
Speaker 2: something like that. But also Elsie Dorman famously could not
Speaker 2: look through her viewfinder right, and she's filming from the
Speaker 2: book depository building, and she filmed the motorcade, but the
Speaker 2: camera's all over Dann place because she's just kind of
Speaker 2: generally pointing the camera at it, and she's not looking
Speaker 2: through her viewfinder because it would have made her dizzy
Speaker 2: or sick or whatever, so she didn't look through either.
Speaker 2: I don't know why Bell's film is shot like at
Speaker 2: this weird angle where it's real high up and you
Speaker 2: just barely catch the car on like the edge of
Speaker 2: the bottom frame. I'm gonna ask him all these things,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna sit sit him down for at
Speaker 2: least an hour and see if I can maybe get
Speaker 2: two shows out of him. You know, who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: I can even we can show some video on there,
Speaker 2: so I could grab some of the videos and show
Speaker 2: them and ask them what we're looking at, you know,
Speaker 2: because people are taking some of his videos and recut
Speaker 2: him and put him on YouTube. And I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know how many times people have grabbed stuff and
Speaker 2: put it up there. I mean, hell had a couple
Speaker 2: of things from his videos up on my on my
Speaker 2: YouTube channel before they took it away.
Speaker 3: You know, probably the biggest thing that I found.
Speaker 4: They could be argued against a lot of these people
Speaker 4: that are claiming photographs and films show certain things that
Speaker 4: they don't. But basically it's where did you get your
Speaker 4: copy and where do you see that in your copy?
Speaker 4: Because I've seen Oh, who is the guy's name? The
Speaker 4: oh god, assassination Unger? Was it Hunger guy in Australia
Speaker 4: that had such a huge collection of prints.
Speaker 2: Well there was Costella had had frames rubbed, the Zapruder
Speaker 2: film redone frame by frame Costeller Redid it that that
Speaker 2: guy's from Australia.
Speaker 4: This is a This is a guy in the research
Speaker 4: community that just had a collect one of the largest
Speaker 4: colle elections.
Speaker 3: He was on not assassination.
Speaker 8: What was all right?
Speaker 3: You had the education Forum? Yeah, what was the other big.
Speaker 2: Well, there was a couple of them. There was murder
Speaker 2: solved and there was no not that assassination science. And
Speaker 2: then there was the deep politics, deep politics for him.
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah it was deep politics maybe yeah, No, that
Speaker 4: was anyway, this guy had a huge collection of stuff
Speaker 4: and he was talking about some of the problems that
Speaker 4: people were coming out with, like when they were talking
Speaker 4: about the altins photo and things of that nature.
Speaker 3: You know, depending on what copy you had right.
Speaker 4: There were so many. You know, it's like the movie Multiplicity.
Speaker 4: You make a xerox of a xerox of a xerox,
Speaker 4: and eventually you're going to start losing stuff, right, And
Speaker 4: I remember where I was in a big battle with
Speaker 4: Ralph sin Key over the two arrows that supposedly were
Speaker 4: drawn onto.
Speaker 9: The Alchin's photo evidence. They always made a reference to
Speaker 9: one in the white and one in the black, and
Speaker 9: you could never really see the second check mark. This
Speaker 9: fool kept lightning that thing, lightning that thing, and eventually
Speaker 9: it pixelated out this whole argument with the crap right
Speaker 9: then when.
Speaker 4: I showed them there's the second arrow that you've claimed
Speaker 4: never existed.
Speaker 3: And so he ended up debunking his whole argument over
Speaker 3: like a two year argument going on, and he just
Speaker 3: debunked himself. It's hilarious when it happens.
Speaker 4: That's the biggest critique, that's the big our biggest criticism
Speaker 4: I have is is, you know, people not using original
Speaker 4: source materials.
Speaker 3: And trying to make all of these claims. Are Fetcher
Speaker 3: used to do it notoriously?
Speaker 2: Right? No, it's crazy. Uh, these guys, they they it's
Speaker 2: just nuts. Some of the stuff they do, and what
Speaker 2: are you going to do? I mean, Fetzer tried to
Speaker 2: sandbag me on on his radio show. His first podcast
Speaker 2: I ever did, actually where somebody had me as a
Speaker 2: guest was Fetzer, Believe it or not. And he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: the blind JFK researcher. You know a lot about the photographs.
Speaker 2: Well let's talk about the Alkins photograph, you know, I said, okay,
Speaker 2: And he starts describing stuff on his show. It was
Speaker 2: called The Real Deal with Jim Petzer, right, and he's
Speaker 2: describing all this crap in the photo and I'm going, well, James, look,
Speaker 2: I've got this thing blown up on a screen right now.
Speaker 2: And you know where did you get your photo? I
Speaker 2: ass I don't see this. So you know, look, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying I see something here and I can't interpret it.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I've got it blown up like, you know,
Speaker 2: nine hundred times. So I'm looking at something that's like,
Speaker 2: you know, a quarter of an inch. I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know thirty eight thirty nine inches wide.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You know? And and he's like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I got it from here and there. And then he
Speaker 2: tells me, oh, I got my copy from uh, what
Speaker 2: was the guy who was the lone nut guy who
Speaker 2: McAdams John McAdams website. I got my copy from there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, mine came from the Chicago Tribune's archive.
Speaker 2: It's a physical chemical print from the Chicago Tribune's archive
Speaker 2: because they sold off their archives, Okay, and uh and
Speaker 2: I got a certified copy from there. It's from theirs,
Speaker 2: the Chicago Tribune, so I know it was from the
Speaker 2: AP given to that.
Speaker 3: It's funny.
Speaker 4: The one that was on mcadam's site was put together
Speaker 4: by oh was it Dave Resis or one.
Speaker 2: Of them, one of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had thrown it together just as an example
Speaker 4: of some stuff. So Fetzer lifts it and then he
Speaker 4: uses that as gospel to back up everything he's claiming.
Speaker 3: It's it's just hilarious.
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm going, Jim, you know, look, I know
Speaker 2: mine isn't an original, right. I didn't get it from
Speaker 2: the Associated Press, but pretty close to original compared to
Speaker 2: what you're what you're talking about, dude, you know, what
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And like I said, it was
Speaker 2: just it was just insane. I couldn't you know what
Speaker 2: am I supposed to do with a guy who's going, well,
Speaker 2: I got it from mcadam's website. I'm like, well, disqualified.
Speaker 2: Right there, you're looking at a digital representation of a
Speaker 2: photograph that is not the same thing as a photograph.
Speaker 2: My friend, it's not a chemical so you know, and oh,
Speaker 2: well you just you don't see the black man. And
Speaker 2: the thing that drove me nuts is the black man's
Speaker 2: face is coming out of the wall, in the Elkins face,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's coming out of the wall. What
Speaker 2: do you mean, Well, obviously they've done something here where
Speaker 2: they manipulated the photo. And I'm like, Jim, do you
Speaker 2: know anything about artifacts and photographs where things look odd?
Speaker 2: Like we've all seen the remember the old ghost photos.
Speaker 2: They used to have whole books of them, right where
Speaker 2: like they would they would take a photograph of a
Speaker 2: staircase for some reason, an empty staircase, and they would
Speaker 2: swear up and down and nobody was sitting there. But
Speaker 2: then you get the photograph back and there'd be this
Speaker 2: ghostly image, you know, if somebody's sitting on the stairs.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that, the ghost books, And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: there's a hundred different ways this can happen. It's a
Speaker 2: double exposure, you know what I mean, things like that.
Speaker 2: But you can get all kinds of weird things once
Speaker 2: you start diving deep into photographs. There's all kinds of
Speaker 2: weird archives. I mean, excuse me, weird what they call,
Speaker 2: oh my god, not archives. There's a not Yeah, there's anomalies,
Speaker 2: but they have a name for this. But anyway, whatever
Speaker 2: it is, there's all kinds of weird things in there.
Speaker 2: You see half a person, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because the film didn't capture it. But you're looking at
Speaker 2: something that's so small. And the other thing is you
Speaker 2: can literally glean information out of these chemical prints. You
Speaker 2: could tell, you know, certain things spatially about like how
Speaker 2: far away things are, what the actual size is, if
Speaker 2: you have something to compare in the photograph and you
Speaker 2: have a known dimensions, you know what I mean. There's
Speaker 2: a hundred different ways to study these things. But if
Speaker 2: you're working with a digital version of it, you've already
Speaker 2: gone backwards because it's all when you get down deep
Speaker 2: into it, it's just a bunch of pixels, you know,
Speaker 2: and those pixels don't have the same amount of information
Speaker 2: that a chemical print does. It just doesn't, and I
Speaker 2: couldn't get that through to Jim, you know what i mean,
Speaker 2: like during this thing, and he just he was like,
Speaker 2: drive me up a wall, trying to get me to agree.
Speaker 2: It's all these weird artifacts that are in the that
Speaker 2: are in the photo, and I'm like, well, no, it
Speaker 2: doesn't look like the black guy's head is coming out
Speaker 2: of the wall. It looks like an underdeveloped image where
Speaker 2: you don't have all of the visual information. It didn't
Speaker 2: capture it all, you know, like you got to go
Speaker 2: back to the way this image was captured to begin with,
Speaker 2: to unders And that's the thing. That's why I can
Speaker 2: talk to Bob about this stuff, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because he'll explain, look, this is the way it's captured.
Speaker 3: And more arguments over that Alton's photo.
Speaker 4: When you think about it, you know that photo was
Speaker 4: taken from a thirty five millimeter negative, which measures what
Speaker 4: about an inch and a quarter by an.
Speaker 3: Inch and a half something like that at the most.
Speaker 4: And then you've got your picture within the border of that,
Speaker 4: so it's not filling the whole frame of it. Something
Speaker 4: that's basically a thumbnail maybe two thumbnails together wide, and
Speaker 4: people blow it up and just the things that they
Speaker 4: have seen in that photo is amazing. And then they
Speaker 4: professed that are there right, and it's like okay.
Speaker 2: And then you had that lacky guy what was his name,
Speaker 2: Blevins Leroy Blevins or whatever, right, who for years was
Speaker 2: sending pictures to everybody. It's like, oh, I've dumped a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of yellow into the photograph. So now I
Speaker 2: taken the exposure, I've added this color, and don't you
Speaker 2: see this now?
Speaker 4: Look, you know Fetzer's friends that would immediately get a
Speaker 4: picture of Oswald and they would change the aspect, radio ratio,
Speaker 4: slip it to the opposite of you, and then sit
Speaker 4: it into a picture of somebody in a doorway and go, yeah,
Speaker 4: see it's him.
Speaker 3: It's an exact fit.
Speaker 2: But the thing is you're arguing over something that, again,
Speaker 2: in its normal natural, the way that they would print it,
Speaker 2: it's about the size of a postage stamp, right in
Speaker 2: its normal print form, and you're arguing about this. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: we've already seen what a good copy of that looks like.
Speaker 2: Even back when you know, people were bringing fresh stuff
Speaker 2: to Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone looked at that film and
Speaker 2: kind of went that's yeah, that's love lady, because you
Speaker 2: can see it in a good solid chemical print, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And not only that, it's amazing how much detail.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the thing about the film, the
Speaker 4: Kodak Triac's film that they used to contrast of that film.
Speaker 3: It was the most popular film in the world.
Speaker 4: For a reason because photographers could shoot anything with it right,
Speaker 4: and it was just striking. The amount of contrast and
Speaker 4: detail you would get it in photographs amazing to me.
Speaker 3: That got out of the film business. I mean, it
Speaker 3: was the number one film.
Speaker 2: It was a kind of yeah, it was ever yeah. Literally,
Speaker 2: it was the kind of thing where if you got
Speaker 2: to close up with somebody's face, you could see like
Speaker 2: the old scars they had from their freaking you know,
Speaker 2: when they had acne as a kid, right, You could.
Speaker 3: Literally see the pores in their skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you took them, you know, if
Speaker 2: you magnified it. And I had a couple of different
Speaker 2: instruments that did this. I had a like this small
Speaker 2: thing which was like a camera and it was on
Speaker 2: a slide so that you could actually like you know,
Speaker 2: you put it on this table and you slide it
Speaker 2: different ways. You don't move the camera, you move the
Speaker 2: little table underneath, and you could put this up on
Speaker 2: a on a video screen, okay, And by doing that,
Speaker 2: I could magnify things a thousand times and have it
Speaker 2: up on a video screen so that not you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not looking at it through a microscope, but it
Speaker 2: was like looking at it through a microscope, and I
Speaker 2: could see things, like you said, the pores in somebody's
Speaker 2: skin on some of these photographs. You know, So don't
Speaker 2: tell me about the details. You're looking at a digital
Speaker 2: By the time you get down to trying to look
Speaker 2: at that guy's pores, it's all squares, it's blocks, it's
Speaker 2: it's pixelated. So anyway, he used to drive me absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: But we got other callers that I've been keeping them
Speaker 2: on hold while I'm talking to you about this and
Speaker 2: rattling on, and I'm sorry, they probably got other things
Speaker 2: on their mind. So let's see, I got the three
Speaker 2: eighth six area code. Let's get to him, and then
Speaker 2: we might go to a break or get to another caller.
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens here. So three eighty six, you're
Speaker 2: live on the Ocell Effect Friday Night Open Mic. What's up.
Speaker 8: Final Lee, spent Kent has come back to the effect.
Speaker 8: Are you ready to go one on one with the
Speaker 8: spent one o Chili effect?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? Good Kent? Oh man, what's happening?
Speaker 8: I had to get through the gimmick infringement now so
Speaker 8: that once that's out of the way, now we can
Speaker 8: really talk. How's everybody doing?
Speaker 2: No, you know, I'm doing Okay, it's been a weird week. Hey,
Speaker 2: you're in Florida. How did the hurricane treat you? Or hurricanes?
Speaker 8: Suh? Well, the first one didn't even do much, just
Speaker 8: little wind and rain. The one from last night, the
Speaker 8: night before, you know, originally it looked like it was
Speaker 8: come right over top of my house. It was actually
Speaker 8: south down towards Cape Canaveral. I guess the main line.
Speaker 10: Of it was.
Speaker 8: I'm just south of Daytona, north of Coco and Canaveral
Speaker 8: and all that, so I was like right in the
Speaker 8: middle of those two. So we got a lot of
Speaker 8: wind and rain. But I didn't lose power until six
Speaker 8: in the morning or internet.
Speaker 2: Okay, only only to six am.
Speaker 8: You lost them?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not bad.
Speaker 8: I had power all the way up to six am
Speaker 8: and by then I woke up at like four point
Speaker 8: thirty and I said, well, I've been saving this beer.
Speaker 8: I know I'm gonna lose power, but I haven't yet.
Speaker 8: So I started drinking some beers and then at six
Speaker 8: o'clock I was watching the Albanok videos and music and everything,
Speaker 8: keeping up with the hurricane. By then it's like right
Speaker 8: over top of it's just about and at six the
Speaker 8: power goes out and I had nothing. I thought I
Speaker 8: had a tablet with music on it, but my tablet
Speaker 8: was broken. It didn't work. Long story short, I didn't
Speaker 8: have an AMFM radio and I got bored. I practiced
Speaker 8: singing and just sitting with a candle in my room,
Speaker 8: drinking beer.
Speaker 2: A picture, singing to himself over me.
Speaker 8: Ben and the tuns of rain and wind for a while.
Speaker 8: But by eight thirty it started simmering down. I was like, man,
Speaker 8: think about it, the power if it would have just
Speaker 8: last another two and a half hours, you know, were
Speaker 8: you it would never have gone out.
Speaker 2: Were you sitting around in your underwear singing to yourself
Speaker 2: by candle light in your room? Is that what you
Speaker 2: were doing there? Spend kent.
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I had my boxers on and a T shirt,
Speaker 8: no shoes, you know, and just singing around, you know,
Speaker 8: sitting around singing and candle light, drinking beer, you know,
Speaker 8: hitting my vase and just enjoying life. But I got
Speaker 8: bored and I went out front, and you know, the
Speaker 8: flagpole was down. I got the flag up off the
Speaker 8: soppy ground, draped it over the railing to dry. You know,
Speaker 8: a couple of things are out of place, like cushions
Speaker 8: and stuff off these chairs. You know what you gotta do,
Speaker 8: straightened up, you know what you gotta do, and drink
Speaker 8: beer for a couple hours, kent if you if you
Speaker 8: stayed out to stay it real quick. I got bored
Speaker 8: and went to bed because there was nothing else to do.
Speaker 2: Totally understand, but you know, for next time. Here's what
Speaker 2: you could do for for pretty cheap. If you want
Speaker 2: to send you a link. I bought wind up radios,
Speaker 2: right wind up radio and flashlights so you don't need batteries.
Speaker 2: Even if you're forget and you're just sitting there, you
Speaker 2: can wind it up. It doesn't last real long, but
Speaker 2: wind up AM FM and also storm like a weather
Speaker 2: band radio, plus a flashlight, and you can just keep
Speaker 2: winding it up to listen so you can get a
Speaker 2: little something, okay, And I'm telling you, I gotta line
Speaker 2: on those less than ten bucks apiece if you want.
Speaker 8: You know, there was one. I mean that would be
Speaker 8: something cool. But like for me when I'm like, I
Speaker 8: didn't have any phones, Like what's the internet goes out?
Speaker 8: I don't have phone, right or anything. So and I've
Speaker 8: got a speaker and I got the you know, the
Speaker 8: things to listen to. But like once the power went out,
Speaker 8: no internet.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: There was a clock radio in the house, my dad's
Speaker 8: clock radio, right, and it had a nine volt. All
Speaker 8: I needed was a nine Holtle battery and I got
Speaker 8: tons of batteries in the house. Won nine. Now we
Speaker 8: go figure. Now we had a couple up in the
Speaker 8: smoke of orange, but I wasn't gonna mess with that.
Speaker 8: But after a few hours, I got bored ate the food.
Speaker 8: I got a sandwich in the fridge in a salad
Speaker 8: ate thatad drank the rest of the chocolate milk because
Speaker 8: I didn't want it to go bad. Wasn't worried about
Speaker 8: anymore beer, had tons of beer, but just closed down
Speaker 8: and just went to bed for a couple hours. And
Speaker 8: finally the power went back on about seven. Probably you
Speaker 8: bet it was really ruined in the fridge or the freezer.
Speaker 8: I got really lucky, no damage.
Speaker 2: No, you definitely got lucky. But I'm just saying next time, though,
Speaker 2: if you get yourself and wind up radio, you can
Speaker 2: just as long as you're going to keep winding it,
Speaker 2: you can listen to something on radio at least, you know,
Speaker 2: get a little music or something going, and that way
Speaker 2: you don't need batteries. But of course you don't have
Speaker 2: a nine Who the hell you know? You go to
Speaker 2: the Dollar store or whatever, they don't got nine vault
Speaker 2: batteries no more. Who the hell even has nine vault batteries.
Speaker 2: I used to get those from a freaking radio shack,
Speaker 2: you know. I used to get mine from radio shack
Speaker 2: because back in the day, a lot of our effect pedals,
Speaker 2: right for guitar and bass, all ran on nine vaults,
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of them. So I used to have
Speaker 2: boxes of nine volt batteries. But I haven't had stuff
Speaker 2: like that in twenty years around, So I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: nine vaut batteries neither. But if I didn't have a
Speaker 2: crank up radio, I'm telling you, when I was when
Speaker 2: I had the power out for a couple of days here,
Speaker 2: I would have went crazy. I mean I had nothing
Speaker 2: to listen to. You know. I wound up sleeping outside
Speaker 2: because it was too hot in the house, and I
Speaker 2: wound up sleeping on the porch with missus Oh and
Speaker 2: Frankie I brought. I brought the wind up radio and
Speaker 2: a gun outside because it was weird that night. Man,
Speaker 2: people got weird, but you know, so I wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure we were safe. But definitely keep the wind
Speaker 2: up radio on hand in the flashlight, so this way
Speaker 2: you're not looking.
Speaker 8: For the last night right next to me. I always
Speaker 8: got one of them, but uh, the big one too,
Speaker 8: one of my camping lights, and I got lanterns had candles,
Speaker 8: so I knew where everything was at. But I actually
Speaker 8: have a tablet right with music downloaded, like my Celtic music.
Speaker 8: I like Alban Knock and Lauren and McKennon, and I
Speaker 8: had like Metallica, old Metallica on there, and I think Testament,
Speaker 8: I don't know, but I got a bunch of music
Speaker 8: on there, and I was like, here's my back. It
Speaker 8: was all charge of sinking the last four hours I
Speaker 8: turned thathing on it wouldn't turn off, blank screen, it's
Speaker 8: shot like something's wrong with the screen, the whole thing.
Speaker 8: And then I was like, oh man, I got nothing.
Speaker 8: And then I was like looking for that one that
Speaker 8: had the nine volt that didn't work, and so you know,
Speaker 8: I finally just like, well I mights just go to sleep.
Speaker 8: I'll just sleep through the wind, the rest of the window,
Speaker 8: the rain, and and uh yeah that was fine and
Speaker 8: they power came back on at seven. But yeah, it
Speaker 8: sucks about that tablet. That that kind of ruined my
Speaker 8: day because I was, you know, I was ready. I've
Speaker 8: done this before.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 8: I have a fire, a little fire pit thing, one
Speaker 8: of those portable fire pits. I could have bust that out.
Speaker 8: I got a whole bunch of those Thermo logs. You
Speaker 8: just light up and put both ends and sit it
Speaker 8: there and he burns for a couple of hours.
Speaker 2: Now, can you cook?
Speaker 8: I could have just had it.
Speaker 2: Can you cook with that?
Speaker 8: Cook off with I gotta go okay?
Speaker 2: Cool? So you had a way to cook if you
Speaker 2: needed to cook, and you didn't have food going bad,
Speaker 2: so you were you were okay. But how long were
Speaker 2: you without power? You said?
Speaker 8: Without the radio? Though there ain't no point having a
Speaker 8: fire pit. I want to hear music. And I got guitar,
Speaker 8: an acoustic guitar. My buddy aunt called you, uh these
Speaker 8: my old bass player. He's like, well, you got your guitar, Like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I almost busted that out. I need to get a
Speaker 8: new uh, a new harmonica. I would have loved to
Speaker 8: have had them or harmonica. I thought about that. I
Speaker 8: sat and sang it for like forty five minutes. I
Speaker 8: do karaoke. I still sing and trying to get me
Speaker 8: going to sing again.
Speaker 2: I still, I still say, you'd be good to have
Speaker 2: a couple of them wind up ones. Man, I'm telling
Speaker 2: you because I have a radio or flashlight, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. All that on the wind up so
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, no need for batteries. Just
Speaker 2: keep winding it and you got it, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's what I liked. So I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you if you ever wance im, I'll show you where
Speaker 2: to get him for like ten less than ten bucks apiece.
Speaker 2: A couple of different forms of them, you know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you get a chance, just send me a link.
Speaker 8: I'll check them out. Definitely for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it definitely is a good thing. I got.
Speaker 2: A matter of fact, I just ordered another one or
Speaker 2: two of them because I was ordering stuff from overseas anyways,
Speaker 2: so I was like, you know what, I could always
Speaker 2: use a couple more around the house, and so I
Speaker 2: just got them. You know, with all these storms coming through,
Speaker 2: because some of them have gone, you know, through Florida
Speaker 2: and come up to Georgia, but not this last one,
Speaker 2: but the couple before that, they flooded up here and everything,
Speaker 2: you know, so it was pretty wild.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm lucky to be where I'm at because it's
Speaker 8: good about flooding and everything. But like places right up
Speaker 8: the road flood you know, right down the roads can flood.
Speaker 8: But I'm sitting up a little bit better. And so,
Speaker 8: you know, I get I've been through a bunch of
Speaker 8: these hurricanes, and you know, there's a couple I've fled.
Speaker 8: You know, I went over to my brothers on the
Speaker 8: west coast, but this one was coming west to east.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm over on the east coast right you know,
Speaker 8: like New Sumerna Beach, Edgewater, and so I've got you know,
Speaker 8: the Indian River right down there. I mean, it's probably
Speaker 8: like a couple of football fields from where I'm sitting
Speaker 8: right right down there's a there's a boat dock, a
Speaker 8: fishing pier down there, yep, And that's where i'd go,
Speaker 8: you know, kayaking where I used to. I haven't done
Speaker 8: that in a while, but you know, it's that water
Speaker 8: did where eggs up and it could flood in other places.
Speaker 8: But since we're kind of up a hill a little bit,
Speaker 8: it doesn't affect us that bad. And I checked everything,
Speaker 8: make sure the kayaks were good. But it is. The
Speaker 8: water's up. It's over the dock a little bit, both docks.
Speaker 8: Like if you wanted to walk out of those dogs,
Speaker 8: you're gonna get wet gono half each of us.
Speaker 2: So b pete, we're already we're already about the one
Speaker 2: hour mark. Should we put uh spent can on hold?
Speaker 2: And then uh, we got Jimmy James on the line next, Uh,
Speaker 2: you want to go to a break or should we
Speaker 2: go to Jimmy next? What should we do here? Because
Speaker 2: we haven't got to go.
Speaker 3: Ahead and take a break along a warm up, some coffee?
Speaker 3: And did you say Aaron was gonna be with us tonight?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Aaron is live at ten o'clock, so he starts
Speaker 2: at ten and uncle at eleven. That that's gonna be
Speaker 2: live on ocelly dot com Radio. So uh spent kent
Speaker 2: gonna put you on hold, and uh for everybody listening
Speaker 2: out there, Jimmy James, hang on, We're gonna get right
Speaker 2: to you. I'm gonna let you and be Pete talk
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Speaker 2: Ready, get ready for second segment of the Live Friday
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Speaker 2: to call into join us. Do it. Three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. That's the number
Speaker 2: to call. We definitely have Jimmy James waiting on the
Speaker 2: line to get on the air. We've already heard from
Speaker 2: spent Kent, we heard from Kenneth and of course a
Speaker 2: special surprise drop in from Bob Grodin during the show
Speaker 2: so far, but we could also hear from you. Three
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Speaker 2: and uh, you can join into this, be pete anything
Speaker 2: you want to cover before I turned Jimmy James loose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go ahead and hear from Jimmy exactly.
Speaker 2: Let's hear what Jimmy's got to say. Maybe he's caught
Speaker 2: up on something interesting this week. Jimmy James, executive producer
Speaker 2: of tonight's show, What's going on? Man?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: Another nickel and.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I know you said that a couple
Speaker 2: of mondays ago. Uh, you were waiting to hear some news.
Speaker 2: How did your news go? You didn't tell us exactly
Speaker 2: what it was, but did you get good news or
Speaker 2: bad news?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: No, I had a meeting.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: The news they said would come on, they said would
Speaker 5: come on the outset of six weeks, so I'm thinking
Speaker 5: they at the latest. So I'm thinking next week I'll
Speaker 5: hear some stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Well, look, I wish you well. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what it is, but I definitely wish you
Speaker 2: good luck with whatever it is you're doing, and I
Speaker 2: hope it turns out good for you. What's on your
Speaker 2: mind tonight? Man?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's good.
Speaker 5: I'll just start off first off by saying that Saturday
Speaker 5: Night Live is back alive. Saturday Night Dad no more.
Speaker 5: Saturday Night Live is now once again for its fiftieth season.
Speaker 1: Viewable.
Speaker 2: Wow, So was it a good one this week? It
Speaker 2: was a good Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 5: Oh, the last two weeks have been fantastic. It's been
Speaker 5: even handed. I want to thank Dana Carvey, Schneider Spade,
Speaker 5: John Lovetts, and even Lauren Michaels for listening.
Speaker 2: Anyways, that sounds that sounds like you're That sounds like
Speaker 2: you're going through an old Wait a minute, that sounds
Speaker 2: like you're going through an old Saturday Night. Lie there
Speaker 2: you're saying there's new ones out that are good or what?
Speaker 5: Well, yes, I'm telling you the last two weeks because
Speaker 5: Dana Carvey is currently playing Joe Biden. Oh he's back,
Speaker 5: which which is hilarious.
Speaker 2: He does he does a good biden Ah.
Speaker 5: That watched the clips from the last couple of weeks. Folks,
Speaker 5: If the last fifteen years you've been like me, they
Speaker 5: kind of disappointed, the fifty season things are different.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sorry, go ahead, I was trying to pull
Speaker 2: up a clip. I'm sorry. I was trying to pull
Speaker 2: up a clip and it started playing automatically, and I
Speaker 2: didn't mean to. It's I on the Grande or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell. I was gonna go look over the clips
Speaker 2: and see if I could grab a good one. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: It scared me for a minute, and I already got
Speaker 5: a changing against that woman. She won't leave me alone.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh yeah, she just you know, hit it and
Speaker 2: quit it.
Speaker 5: Move on, lady.
Speaker 2: Wow always uh lose my number. Jimmy James said.
Speaker 5: Whoa, Well, you know, it was just a heck of
Speaker 5: the thing though. It was just it's it's back. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of older players stepping in.
Speaker 3: Nice to add the new beat.
Speaker 5: The new guys. They did an outstanding job. I was
Speaker 5: particularly they had a part. One of the skits was
Speaker 5: Blonde Dragon People, which pretty much shows how I view
Speaker 5: half the things on television these days. It makes no sense.
Speaker 5: There's these people in the Middle Ages with long blonde
Speaker 5: treadlocks and some kind of medieval castle. That's the worth watching.
Speaker 2: I see something called there, I see something called sushi
Speaker 2: glory Hole. Jimmy James, what the hell is that.
Speaker 5: I chose not to participate in that? Damn good and
Speaker 5: watch it, listen to it.
Speaker 2: I see the VP debate. They have an SNL VP
Speaker 2: debate skit looks like is that a good one?
Speaker 5: Oh? That was one of the best. Now that was
Speaker 5: really good. Now Jim gaff again is playing walls and
Speaker 5: he's just nails it.
Speaker 2: Okay. I also see the blonde Dragon. Is blonde Dragon?
Speaker 2: People's good? Or is that? Is that a you think
Speaker 2: that's a good one to play an audio from here?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, no, you know it's more visual. Yeah again, it's
Speaker 5: it's more of a comment on you know these shows.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, like I a.
Speaker 5: Watch it makes no damn sense. It's like this Game
Speaker 5: of Thrones things.
Speaker 2: Oh that kind of garb.
Speaker 5: You're all happy, Yeah, exactly. Just yeah, here's something more
Speaker 5: of a sea than they gotcha.
Speaker 2: But this this VP sorry, the VP debate, the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four cold open, it says, the VP debate. That's
Speaker 2: a good one though with the vice presidents.
Speaker 5: Oh oh absolutely, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna grab that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna grab that and
Speaker 2: play it on here. But but go ahead, I'm listening
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 5: Well, it's just.
Speaker 16: There's that and uh.
Speaker 5: From the JFK world. That means got the bob grogs
Speaker 5: floating around it because I'm possibly on the call.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was just passive.
Speaker 5: As passed by the twelve room. Two days ago, I
Speaker 5: love Dad was watching one of these videos and need
Speaker 5: to you know, I wasn't able to a case something.
Speaker 5: It's like the ten Greatest Unsolved Mysteries.
Speaker 3: Of blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Well, so the first one they showed us how the
Speaker 5: public lady, and they were showing it for what I
Speaker 5: had seen and I was seen was a complete frontal
Speaker 5: deal with the woman.
Speaker 3: Is this legit?
Speaker 5: There is the only idiot is shameless picture?
Speaker 2: Well, I tried to explain, there are actually four or
Speaker 2: five Babushka ladies, okay, and nobody listens to me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: nobody listens. There are four or five of them, and
Speaker 2: there are some good frontal shots of some of them
Speaker 2: that absolutely, Yeah, you can clearly see a lot about
Speaker 2: this Babushka lady, which is why I've always said that
Speaker 2: I never bought Guess what somebody who claimed to be
Speaker 2: the Babushka Lady I think. Yeah, Richard Sprague, sorry, Richard Sprague,
Speaker 2: not the guy who was heading the HSCA briefly. But
Speaker 2: the guy who was the photographic guy who wrote for
Speaker 2: Computers and Technology, that guy, I believe he tracked down
Speaker 2: the Babushka lady was in the nineteen seventies, in the
Speaker 2: early seventies. And it turns out that it was this
Speaker 2: woman who didn't get a developed photographic image from her picture,
Speaker 2: who went to a you know, one of these places like,
Speaker 2: you know, to go get her pictures developed and nothing
Speaker 2: can out. Well, okay, And I think that that was
Speaker 2: the Babushka lady. He tracked her down. But nobody pays
Speaker 2: attention to the old dick spray stuff anymore, you know. Uh,
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you I saw that article.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well he won't Buck Wilde in the middle
Speaker 5: seventies there, He can't n that anyway. Look, but they
Speaker 5: look this this picture. They showed the way they were
Speaker 5: sort of ariels black and white except for the baboos.
Speaker 5: The lady and the clothing seemed to match up those
Speaker 5: other baboushka ladies. You left who with Jad fifteen years
Speaker 5: younger than.
Speaker 7: This Baboushka lady.
Speaker 5: It's sure looked right as they smoked, so I'm off
Speaker 5: look all older that uh and no, a lot of
Speaker 5: them resembled No, sixteen year old girl.
Speaker 2: Nope, not one of them. Not one of them resembled
Speaker 2: sixteen year old girl. Not one of them has the
Speaker 2: right hair color, Not one of them has the right
Speaker 2: body type for her at that age. Okay, just saying, uh,
Speaker 2: you know she doesn't match, you know, her whole thing. Well,
Speaker 2: I went out with a wig and sunglasses on, and
Speaker 2: I had extra coats on, so I looked at her.
Speaker 2: You know, come on, come on, who the hell dresses
Speaker 2: up like that to go out? You know, I had
Speaker 2: to be in disguise that day because I knew I
Speaker 2: was hiding from who. You know, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Anyway? Ridiculous If you notice, you know, she's not getting
Speaker 2: invites everywhere anymore. You notice that, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well she trying to rip off the next film
Speaker 5: and monkey with it, saying.
Speaker 3: Well, well yeah, right, so that's theirs.
Speaker 2: Now that it should have in the end of her
Speaker 2: years ago when she was on Heraldo. You know, but
Speaker 2: she but Heraldo. You know Heraldo. He sets up and
Speaker 2: he sandbags people when he wants to, but he doesn't
Speaker 2: get at you know, he doesn't dig into people when
Speaker 2: he wants to prop him up. You notice that with
Speaker 2: heraldo right, and all due respect to the researchers that
Speaker 2: at first picked her up and tried to, you know,
Speaker 2: pump her as legitimate, but once they realized certain things
Speaker 2: and certain researchers decided, you know what, I can't back
Speaker 2: this nonsense. It's sort of like the Judy Baker thing,
Speaker 2: where there were a couple of researchers, decent people, even
Speaker 2: they got involved with her at first, and then they
Speaker 2: start digging and they go, eh, you know what, this
Speaker 2: doesn't look good. They very quietly walked away. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't get him to come out and say, look
Speaker 2: I was dead wrong about it or anything like. You
Speaker 2: can't get him to do it later. But just take
Speaker 2: notice who just decided to no longer you know, back
Speaker 2: her up? Right? I mean, she's already got her win.
Speaker 2: If you backed her up ten years ago, that's it.
Speaker 2: You're done as far as she's concerned. You're still one
Speaker 2: of her supporters. You know, I'll never forget the guy
Speaker 2: who started yelling at me online. What do you know,
Speaker 2: You're just a blind guy. You know, I trust people
Speaker 2: like Professor Fetzer and you know, and two other people
Speaker 2: he named. It cracked me up. He named Fetzer, and
Speaker 2: he named James Douglas. And oh and uh, what was
Speaker 2: that guy? The guy who wrote the Doctor Mary's Monkey
Speaker 2: book ed ed Haslin. He says, I trust people like
Speaker 2: that as opposed to people like you. I said, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's wrong with that, Haslin. I said, as
Speaker 2: far as Fetser goes, you know, go with God. But
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would believe in a single
Speaker 2: thing that guy says. But you're also claiming that James
Speaker 2: Douglas supports her. Oh yeah, absolutely. I said, that's funny
Speaker 2: because I have his home number, so I'm gonna call him.
Speaker 2: And I called up Jim Douglas and I said, Jim,
Speaker 2: is this true that you back uh Judith Barry Baker?
Speaker 2: And he says no. I said, well, why are they
Speaker 2: saying that? He said, I wrote her a letter once saying,
Speaker 2: you know, thanks for sending me a book or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, but did you at any point
Speaker 2: say you believed her story? And he said no. I said, okay.
Speaker 2: He said I didn't know what to think at first,
Speaker 2: but I never said that he did that.
Speaker 16: Mary Farrell, the woman Mary Ferrell, just okay, crazy lady.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, and then she said I got the full
Speaker 16: of dog little Larry Ferrell.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But meanwhile she was still begging for it. When
Speaker 2: Mary was on her deathbed and she was harassing.
Speaker 5: He just wanted to get rid of crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, she was harassing Mary Farrell and her family and
Speaker 2: her friends and everything when the ladies in the hospital dying, honestly,
Speaker 2: and she's trying to figure out how to pay her
Speaker 2: medical bills. And then that angel investor came through and said, look,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take care of your bills and also
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna start this foundation. And he laid
Speaker 2: out the first money to start scanning her documents and
Speaker 2: all that, and that was not cheap back then. That was,
Speaker 2: you know, a decent expense. And plus he took care
Speaker 2: of her medical bills for and at that point, you
Speaker 2: know what, she just laid there and died. I mean,
Speaker 2: that was that was the thing. It was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be at peace now, my work's going
Speaker 2: to be preserved, and uh, you know what, I'm good.
Speaker 2: And Judy was still pastoring the hell out of her,
Speaker 2: and you know what. She was still trying to get
Speaker 2: that endorsement. You know, before you drop dad, Mary, tell
Speaker 2: the world that you believe Judy Baker. That's a true story.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm shortening it up a bit, but believe me,
Speaker 2: this is what it was. I mean, amazing. You know,
Speaker 2: the first time I got email, you go ahead to
Speaker 2: be Pete. You were going to say something.
Speaker 3: No, I'm sitting here listening.
Speaker 4: I'm just fascinated at all the Judas stuff coming back up.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm really surprised. Is she doing her thing
Speaker 3: this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah again. And as a matter of fact, she
Speaker 2: kind of snaked a couple of people from me. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I had a couple of people. I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: you ought to come to Lancer. Oh yeah, well let
Speaker 2: me know, get me in touch, and the next thing,
Speaker 2: I know, I'll tell.
Speaker 3: You what you gotta do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get with the people that are throwing the conference
Speaker 4: that you're go into and then put up the money
Speaker 4: and they go find that guy they showed up at
Speaker 4: the thing last year, they got all of us sick,
Speaker 4: and buy him a damn ticket and send him to
Speaker 4: Judas event.
Speaker 2: Oh happily.
Speaker 4: But I don't mean it's infect that place a typhoid.
Speaker 4: Mary's smelling mother.
Speaker 2: Hey, do you know that guy's name? By the way,
Speaker 2: do you have his name somewhere?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I would love to know who that was. There was
Speaker 2: one guy that literally got us all sick. It was.
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. I was like, the guy's like, cough
Speaker 2: and all I'm too sick. I gotta go. But before
Speaker 2: I go, let me come over in the smoking section
Speaker 2: and cough on all you guys, Like, dude, if you're
Speaker 2: that sick, leave you know. I mean, I'm not petrified
Speaker 2: the coronavirus or nothing, but dude, whatever it is, flu
Speaker 2: get out of here. You're gonna make everybody sick. And
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 4: If you could find him, have him get juiced up
Speaker 4: and go get a Judas performance and see if we
Speaker 4: can't start another plague there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, you know. And besides that, maybe I'll
Speaker 2: still bring a bring a couple of presents of uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I got a couple of copies of Walt's book,
Speaker 2: and well, I can't afford to buy him this year,
Speaker 2: but if I had some money, I might buy some
Speaker 2: of Walt Brown's books again. Send somebody over there.
Speaker 7: You know, I needed to get that.
Speaker 5: I need to get his chronology on those CBS or DVDs.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what you do? Do you have? Do
Speaker 2: you have Walt's email address? Jimmy, all right, right to
Speaker 2: that the email address, okay, the email address that he's
Speaker 2: used for years and years, the K I A S,
Speaker 2: JFK or whatever and know it all, smart ass or
Speaker 2: whatever it's supposed to stand for. Uh K I A
Speaker 2: S or whatever, K A what that one? Email him
Speaker 2: there and ask him if he will sell you a
Speaker 2: copy of the of the chronology. Okay, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Just this is a good, good little tip for people.
Speaker 2: If you want to get it cheaper, if he's got
Speaker 2: any of the copies left, it's cheaper, and he's got
Speaker 2: it on a single disc, okay, because those are the
Speaker 2: original copies that we got the people that h bought
Speaker 2: it from him, through the through the deep politics. Quarterly
Speaker 2: when you were a subscriber, I think he wanted like
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five dollars or something, and he
Speaker 2: gave me a lifetime membership. And also when the chronology's ready,
Speaker 2: because I was, you know, hanging out with him, when
Speaker 2: he was writing that when the chronology's ready, you'll get
Speaker 2: a copy of that too. And that November when I
Speaker 2: went to his house, he had a stack of him
Speaker 2: there and he still has some from the original print,
Speaker 2: not the Amazon. Amazon has it in like ten parts.
Speaker 2: You got to buy like ten parts of it, like
Speaker 2: twenty bucks at a time. But you can just buy
Speaker 2: the single disc from him. And I've got the single
Speaker 2: disc here of the chronology and ask him a price
Speaker 2: on that, like how much will you charge me? And
Speaker 2: just send it to him, Just paypalum done, and you'll
Speaker 2: get it cheaper, like I mean way cheaper, like like
Speaker 2: thirty cents on the dollar to the to what you
Speaker 2: would pay Amazon to get it. Okay, and it's on
Speaker 2: one disc.
Speaker 5: Amazon people last week or two. I am not impressed.
Speaker 5: What a pain in the butt. I finally just gave
Speaker 5: my brother money to get the stuff I.
Speaker 2: Needed, Right, I understand, I got this jerky problem with
Speaker 2: these pens by the way. I tried to uh, I
Speaker 2: got banned on on one of those websites because for
Speaker 2: what did they say? Controversial political speech and political products
Speaker 2: and pictures that I was sending people allegedly, But all
Speaker 2: I was trying to do is get stuff printed for
Speaker 2: the show and uh and for the network. And so
Speaker 2: now I'm banned because of this. And so I tried
Speaker 2: to order pens and they wouldn't let me send a
Speaker 2: message to tell them what to print on the pen. Right,
Speaker 2: So now I've got like one hundred and something blank
Speaker 2: pens coming to me because they didn't get any word
Speaker 2: from me about what to print on the pen. So
Speaker 2: they're sending me blank pens and I'm like, damn it,
Speaker 2: I don't need blank pens. Uh. So yeah, so I
Speaker 2: lost money on that, and I wanted to get some
Speaker 2: more Ocelli pens and I was also going to get
Speaker 2: some printed for the Lancer conference, and they gave me
Speaker 2: a hard time. So I'm banned for Apparently Ocelli graphics
Speaker 2: are banned in China now, so I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but there it is. I can't work through the Chinese
Speaker 2: company directly, even though I wanted to get the pens
Speaker 2: from Vietnam or Sri Lanka or whatever wherever, because you know, again,
Speaker 2: way cheaper you buy these things through.
Speaker 4: You know, Joe Biden just cuts messaging back, say hey,
Speaker 4: I'm good friends with Joe.
Speaker 2: And Hunter Yeah, well, look, if Hunter Biden could help
Speaker 2: me get my pens done, I might drop his name.
Speaker 2: But apparently Ocelli graphics are banned in China, so I
Speaker 2: don't know why I can't even work through the Chinese
Speaker 2: company to like I say, go to Sri Lanka or
Speaker 2: Vietnam even Uh so I was lucky I got the
Speaker 2: t shirts done this year.
Speaker 5: But apparently did you know the connection?
Speaker 2: Well no, if you know the guy.
Speaker 5: Ten millions, the guy human fat carom going on there,
Speaker 5: I mean, you could buy people and ship can't they
Speaker 5: don't they gang knick knack makers.
Speaker 2: It would probably cost me less money to buy a
Speaker 2: person than it would to buy printed products in America. Dude.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if I wanted to get the
Speaker 2: tote bags like last year I had, I had tote
Speaker 2: bags will Chelly Effect tote bags, and I thought it
Speaker 2: was the greatest thing. But I got those done at
Speaker 2: a reasonable price. You try and get them done, Like
Speaker 2: you want ten tote bags, You're gonna pay you know,
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars in America? You want, you want? You
Speaker 2: want fifty?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a file for some of these newcomer programs.
Speaker 5: Were those things of fifty sixty of these kids to
Speaker 5: work in your sweatshop.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if I had a sweatshop, right, if I
Speaker 2: had a.
Speaker 5: Small hey, you could put them up just about anywhere.
Speaker 2: I hear, okay, if you say you know it to me, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have asked for anythings. So do you not
Speaker 5: realize that there is more slavery that's going on in
Speaker 5: the last four years on our southern border than all
Speaker 5: of the African slavery from hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 7: I don't even want to happen there.
Speaker 5: It's depending on the southern border times a thousand worse, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to calculate. Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you calculate that, Jimmy, I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not disputing you, but I don't know how
Speaker 2: you even calculate that, to be honest with you, like people.
Speaker 5: Are, where are you good?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Where are you getting your numbers from? I miss,
Speaker 2: I didn't hear you number?
Speaker 5: Which number?
Speaker 2: Well, you're saying it's this many times more and you've
Speaker 2: got a quantity there, So where are you getting your
Speaker 2: numbers from? I'm asking you.
Speaker 5: Common sense. I'd rather be working a field than being
Speaker 5: put in a sex trade or being a drug mule,
Speaker 5: or doing all the other god awful things that they're
Speaker 5: currently being forced to do in the Southern Border.
Speaker 2: Well, true, I'm just asking you where you're getting your
Speaker 2: your you know, like you're just saying based on what
Speaker 2: you understand is happening, like in jed excuse me, in general,
Speaker 2: you're calculating that is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Well, this doesn't even take any calculation to what was
Speaker 5: going on in the early eighteen hundreds in this country
Speaker 5: and the way these people are being treated in the
Speaker 5: Southern border, bostly by their own people, by the way,
Speaker 5: I mean, the cartels are here running things. Mister Goozing
Speaker 5: Junior was arrested right in text. This isn't real complicated.
Speaker 2: Okay, asking where you're getting from, because like if I
Speaker 2: want to track, yeah, we have.
Speaker 5: More slaves in this country today than ever before, and
Speaker 5: once again it's the Democrat party that created it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just asking where you're getting the information from it,
Speaker 2: that's all. But like if I wanted to know about
Speaker 2: slavery in the eighteen hundreds, I can go to sales records,
Speaker 2: because they actually kept sales records on that you know,
Speaker 2: you can look up and see how many people were sold,
Speaker 2: what they were sold for all of that. There's actually
Speaker 2: records that you can look at. So I was just
Speaker 2: curious where you were getting the modern equivalent of that.
Speaker 17: That's all, Well, I don't know what they're going for
Speaker 17: price wise, but I do know that the things that
Speaker 17: they're being forced to do are a thousand times worse.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course, and we have that with the
Speaker 2: Asian trafficking situation where they don't come in through the border.
Speaker 2: They bring them and straight up on a plane or
Speaker 2: a boat, you know, to the various harbors, and.
Speaker 5: You got real clear what's going on there. That's Chairman
Speaker 5: d setting up auto plants right on the border at
Speaker 5: the United States, almost fully automated automotive plants building cars.
Speaker 5: The heat plans on if the Democrats win flotting our
Speaker 5: market with their cars.
Speaker 2: Now, what I'm talking about is the people they bring
Speaker 2: into the various cities on each of the coasts, which
Speaker 2: are brought in for like you know, the massage parlors
Speaker 2: and the brothels. They bring these people in under false
Speaker 2: pretenses and then they disappear into the country and become
Speaker 2: part of these different sex trafficking rings. And I'm talking
Speaker 2: about Asian people that come from you know, the Philippines
Speaker 2: and come from.
Speaker 5: That's old that's party, thirty year old information. Things are
Speaker 5: working like that, that mist.
Speaker 2: Centry, Well they're still going on.
Speaker 6: It was still.
Speaker 7: People.
Speaker 5: So many people from South America and whatnot have come
Speaker 5: through here. But now their Aspide administration that's flying them
Speaker 5: in on the cover of darkness day and night, day
Speaker 5: and night, on these blowing jets.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm asking about, is where you're getting
Speaker 2: that from. Because, like I said, I could track this
Speaker 2: stuff before with these Asians that were coming in, but
Speaker 2: this is obviously a separate issue. But people are trafficked
Speaker 2: from all over the world. I know that. But I
Speaker 2: was just saying when you were talking about sex trafficking specifically,
Speaker 2: I happen to know a little bit about that because
Speaker 2: they had busted some of these rings, you know, like
Speaker 2: when they busted that guy who was the owner of
Speaker 2: the Patriots or whatever, right, was that a rubin tug
Speaker 2: and they caught him there and then they charged him
Speaker 2: with sex trafficking or was it Roger Goodell? Was that
Speaker 2: his name? Goodell being a job that got dismissed.
Speaker 16: Later, Well, they.
Speaker 2: Actually charged him with some kind of like sex trafficking too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now the cards to him for using off who
Speaker 5: were as later dismissed.
Speaker 2: I know what they charged him, but the act was
Speaker 2: but I think part of the crime they the word
Speaker 2: sex trafficking was part of it. I know it was,
Speaker 2: because I was like, why the hell are they charging
Speaker 2: him with trafficking? He didn't make the arrangement, He just
Speaker 2: went and you know, used the services, right. Uh, That's
Speaker 2: what I was saying to myself at the time. But
Speaker 2: I remember the court.
Speaker 5: Yard, you know what that might have been, Chuck. The
Speaker 5: thing is is these people they have these uh these
Speaker 5: damn and uh we called grand juries, and they can
Speaker 5: go in front of these grand juries and the accused
Speaker 5: has no participation, has there's no kind of adversarial system.
Speaker 5: Nothing's verified or checked or double checked. They could say anything,
Speaker 5: and they do. They could They could say all they
Speaker 5: all they need to do. All they want to do
Speaker 5: is get an indictment. And as it's said, they what
Speaker 5: ninety nine point nine percent of the time due and
Speaker 5: then after that the original you know truck Usually you
Speaker 5: aren't even allowed to read this stuff. From Grand Series.
Speaker 16: But in the case of the Craft guy.
Speaker 5: People don't like them, so they probably did.
Speaker 2: It was it was Robert Kraft. That was the guy's name.
Speaker 2: I just remembered. And yeah, of course the charges were
Speaker 2: later dropped. But let's see prostitution. They charge them with
Speaker 2: a bunch of things. Though, let's see prosecutors are dropping
Speaker 2: charges of soliciting prostitution against them. Was accused of paying
Speaker 2: for sex acts and the orchids of Asia Day, Spa
Speaker 2: and Jupiter, Florida on consecutive days. But I know there
Speaker 2: was something in there about about there was like trafficking
Speaker 2: and out and they were charged. Maybe they were charging
Speaker 2: somebody else in the case with trafficking. Let me say
Speaker 2: the court was barred from.
Speaker 5: Maybe the Man Act. He's in another.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Man Act, you gotta that's that's literally
Speaker 2: transporting somebody across state lines for that purpose. That's why
Speaker 2: they're nailing. Uh. That's another thing too. I should have
Speaker 2: asked spent Kent about it. Is he still on the line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna bring spent Kent back on
Speaker 2: for a second because I need to ask him about
Speaker 2: something about some of his friends. You know what, stay
Speaker 2: on the line, Jimmy, I'm gonna.
Speaker 16: Because you really don't do anything else.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll move on. Yeah, I'll move on to Kent
Speaker 2: real fast. I'm gonna put you on hold, but I'll
Speaker 2: come back around to you. Jimmy, hold on there. Let
Speaker 2: me ask Kent about something here.
Speaker 13: Kent.
Speaker 2: You're still with us, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I was hoping to get back on here.
Speaker 2: Well, great, I got a question for you before I
Speaker 2: forgot discussion.
Speaker 8: But I do have to say thing about you know,
Speaker 8: and this is defense of the black man and the
Speaker 8: black woman of the United States to where you know,
Speaker 8: I know, you know, slavery is always wrong. When this
Speaker 8: Constitution was written, you know, slavery was legal at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and you know they got whipped, they got whipped, beaten, killed, lynched,
Speaker 8: everything else where.
Speaker 5: Today there's all.
Speaker 8: Kinds of slavery going on, like Jimmy James was saying,
Speaker 8: but at least it's not that bad to where they're
Speaker 8: getting whipped right in front of our faces and you
Speaker 8: see their their backs, you know, ripped open and all
Speaker 8: the all the scars. So that was a daily thing
Speaker 8: in this country. You know, one hundred and seventy years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, you know what, Yes, and know though because
Speaker 2: and believe me, I'm not defending it at all. But
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something. There were legal protections
Speaker 2: for slaves in certain places where they had these laws
Speaker 2: they called them noir where you know, you were not
Speaker 2: actually allowed to do that everywhere. There was certain areas.
Speaker 8: But how much did that get reported? A lot of
Speaker 8: them like they didn't have well we didn't have body
Speaker 8: cams back then.
Speaker 2: Well no, but we do have to you what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: There were no body cams.
Speaker 2: Of course not and a whole lot of it went
Speaker 2: unreported as per usual. But today a lot of this
Speaker 2: sex trafficking stuff, they just turn around and ditch somebody
Speaker 2: who has no paperwork and they just you know, cut
Speaker 2: their throat and dropped the body somewhere, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's just.
Speaker 8: There's a lot again again, it's all ruthless, it's all disgusting. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but you know, like what was happening in our country
Speaker 8: like one hundred over one hundred and fifty years ago, Yeah,
Speaker 8: was completely discussing slavery is wrong. No matter how you
Speaker 8: slice it, I agree with basically the only thing I
Speaker 8: wanted to say to Jimmy James, No, it looks like
Speaker 8: no matter what it's wrong, no matter how you slice it, No,
Speaker 8: you no human has a right to own another human. No, listen,
Speaker 8: natural rights.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I agree with you. But the point is that
Speaker 2: the only reason why I asked them is because, look,
Speaker 2: there are sales records because it was legal at the time,
Speaker 2: So there's actually records of sale and purchase, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So you can actually see the numbers
Speaker 2: of people that were you know, that were.
Speaker 8: No way you can mathematically I hear exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 8: There's absolutely no way you can mathematically add all this
Speaker 8: up and tow it up. Which is kind of the
Speaker 8: point too to what I'm saying. It's like, slavery is
Speaker 8: bad nowhere how you slices or mathematically added up bad and.
Speaker 2: I and I guarantee you there was a lot of
Speaker 2: off the book sales too. It's not like every sale
Speaker 2: was captured. Okay, So there was definitely you know, excuse
Speaker 2: it's not even I'm not even making a pun here
Speaker 2: when I say there was a black market. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 2: there was definitely black market slavery on top of the
Speaker 2: legal above board slavery at the time. So and no,
Speaker 2: none of it's right, obviously, but I was thinking about something,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of the guys and and uh,
Speaker 2: of course this was definitely Dennis Ford's wheelhouse back in
Speaker 2: the day there, but there were a lot of guys
Speaker 2: that used to discuss like the hip hop community and
Speaker 2: all of the like crazy, sick, demented things that went on, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, this is time time for
Speaker 2: those guys to come out and talk about guess what
Speaker 2: P Diddy And why are they not talking about, Uh,
Speaker 2: what's his name? The guy who was actually here in Georgia. Uh,
Speaker 2: the guy who did the piss video where he's pissing
Speaker 2: on the girl. What was his name?
Speaker 8: Good God, you're asking the wrong guy. Pop culture and
Speaker 8: me aren't like very hand these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean you'd have.
Speaker 8: I used to listen to him back in the night.
Speaker 3: Mark Kelly, Mark Kelly, Well, I used to do that one.
Speaker 8: Song I like to see a Girl. I liked this song.
Speaker 8: So anyways, No, but.
Speaker 2: What I'm asking about is these guys ought to be doing,
Speaker 2: you know, two three hour specials right now in their
Speaker 2: podcasts on you know, P Diddy and R Kelly and
Speaker 2: all these other guys that are connected to because you know,
Speaker 2: they always talked about the sex abuse and stuff like,
Speaker 2: you know, they're saying that P. Diddy was involved in
Speaker 2: what was that kid's name, to the young kid who
Speaker 2: came out of YouTube, uh that they said that he
Speaker 2: was was sexually abusing him. Now too.
Speaker 3: He was this little little jerky biab.
Speaker 2: Justin Bieber, right, the little jerk who was like out
Speaker 2: there all out.
Speaker 8: Of He was huge.
Speaker 2: He was huge.
Speaker 8: But the thing is the girls loved him and everything.
Speaker 8: I remember a niece when she was younger, she loved him. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: he got abused file and everything, right. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 8: as far as Denis Ford, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 8: think he's doing podcasts. I don't really talk to him anymore.
Speaker 8: But like Steve Brant is like a rapper that was
Speaker 8: there then he would speak on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: That's when the guys you know, really loved like the
Speaker 8: like the freedom message wrap, right, guys, that typical mainstream,
Speaker 8: which was P Diddy.
Speaker 2: Right, But that's what I'm saying those guys. But those
Speaker 2: guys used to all the time go on these rants
Speaker 2: about oh you guys don't know the stuff that goes on.
Speaker 2: And now some of this stuff has come out proof
Speaker 2: right where it's like, hey, look, you know, they're bringing
Speaker 2: in P Diddy and they're showing he's connected to this
Speaker 2: one and that one, and he had cohorts, and he
Speaker 2: had these other rappers whose names I never even heard of,
Speaker 2: were with him, and they were getting in on it,
Speaker 2: and he's having his freak parties. And I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 2: this is exactly the stuff that everybody used to say.
Speaker 2: These guys were crazy for talking about. This is prime time.
Speaker 2: They ought to be out there saying, see, look we
Speaker 2: were right where are.
Speaker 8: There's really nobody? I mean, there hasn't been anybody around lately.
Speaker 8: Like Dennis I said, he's not doing anything. As far
Speaker 8: as I know. I don't really talk to him anymore.
Speaker 8: But Steve Grant, he totally left, and he was talking
Speaker 8: about this back in the days. He's on another for man.
Speaker 8: He hardly talks to anybody. From what I understand, I
Speaker 8: would talked to him in a couple of years. Payday
Speaker 8: Monsant and Santo oh Kyday. That dude, I don't ain't
Speaker 8: gonna say his real real name, but he's went up
Speaker 8: to Canada and hadn't been heard fhim since, right.
Speaker 16: And you know, I know, I know Payday, I.
Speaker 8: Know Steve, I know all these guys are always on
Speaker 8: a Friday super show. I talked to my regular phone
Speaker 8: off the air and stuff not for years. And like
Speaker 8: they've a lot of these guys, these rappers from Anonymous
Speaker 8: and whatnot. You know that I you know, like I said,
Speaker 8: I'm friends with them. They're they're gone, they haven't been it,
Speaker 8: don't doing anything. Oh there's a few people from Anonymous
Speaker 8: left and they they go out and give water and
Speaker 8: do you know, to do the good stuff they're supposed
Speaker 8: to be doing.
Speaker 2: And that's.
Speaker 8: You and I jump on radio now and again that's
Speaker 8: about it. I mean, like there's there's just that they're
Speaker 8: not around anymore.
Speaker 2: Dude. Well, but that's what I'm asking, Like there's really
Speaker 2: zero left because none of these guys are doing it,
Speaker 2: and they could be out there right now doing extensive
Speaker 2: discussions on this stuff. I mean, obviously you can't bring
Speaker 2: it on YouTube. By the way, this this show is
Speaker 2: not going to go to YouTube because of all the
Speaker 2: stuff we mentioned. Because I got a warning that you
Speaker 2: know what'll you well, no, I don't care about mon
Speaker 2: I haven't tried to monetize on YouTube in over ten years.
Speaker 2: But that's not the point. They'll actually just take away
Speaker 2: all your stuff again, you know. And I got like
Speaker 2: a quiet YouTube channel right now because they took away
Speaker 2: my big YouTube channel. Uh so I have like a
Speaker 2: quiet YouTube and the reason why I'm able to keep it.
Speaker 8: Going crazy with that censorship, I hear you it's going
Speaker 8: I mean we aren't talk in a while, but yeah,
Speaker 8: that's been going on, right And you know, I'm not
Speaker 8: at all surprised if I eventually went after you too
Speaker 8: again really quickly. Back to the rapper guys, if anybody
Speaker 8: would have been like right now should be stepping up
Speaker 8: and doing their thing, it would be pad Monsigno. Yeah, Paydi.
Speaker 8: I mean like he was on it the whole time.
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't agree with him on a lot
Speaker 8: of stuff flat earth and stuff like that, but when
Speaker 8: it came to like government and and and all the
Speaker 8: set traffic and everything, he made so many badass teams, right.
Speaker 8: You know, it'd be great to have payday back. And
Speaker 8: I have no idea whatever happened to him, even if
Speaker 8: he's still alive at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last time I heard from him, he had
Speaker 2: gone out to Colorado and like he was out there
Speaker 2: for a little bit and then he might have come.
Speaker 3: Back to phil He went up to Canada.
Speaker 8: He went back to Canada after his girl.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying. He went, he went back
Speaker 2: to Philly for a minute, and then there was this
Speaker 2: problem with this girl or whatever, and then poof, he
Speaker 2: was gone. And I was I was talking to him
Speaker 2: off air, and actually I was sending him. I was
Speaker 2: sending him some stuff that I was hoping he was
Speaker 2: going to use and some new music and uh and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And then next thing I know is poof,
Speaker 2: He's not answering nothing. So I don't know what happened
Speaker 2: to him. But this is prime time for these guys
Speaker 2: right now. They could be out there right now talking
Speaker 2: about exactly what's in the news, what's getting proven in court,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's all the same stuff we were
Speaker 8: talking about, you know, eight years ago or whatever, you
Speaker 8: know on Friday, I Super show your show everything, right,
Speaker 8: you know, it's just now it's starting to get exposed.
Speaker 8: And yeah, it's not like we haven't been dealing you know,
Speaker 8: It's not like like my old show and your show
Speaker 8: and all of us together haven't been you know, warning
Speaker 8: everybody about this for you know, the last dozen years
Speaker 8: at one way or the other. I mean, we've set
Speaker 8: all this stuff to blue in the face. I mean,
Speaker 8: this is what government is. This is what people in
Speaker 8: power do. They do whatever they think they get so
Speaker 8: their heads their sociopaths, and they're billionaires and they have power,
Speaker 8: and they control governments and they do whatever that they want.
Speaker 8: They have all these stooges and all these these presidents
Speaker 8: are just nothing but stooges for these billionaire sickos, and
Speaker 8: they become sickos themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, but the weird thing is again, the weird thing though,
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, is that we were talking
Speaker 2: about this stuff and people said, oh, you're just crazy
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists. Well, we were trying to explain that there
Speaker 2: was this you know element in entertainment, especially in entertainment
Speaker 2: that we had. You know, some of us got different
Speaker 2: different views on it. Like when I went out to
Speaker 2: California and I was out there with some of the
Speaker 2: rock and metal guys, you know, I didn't get to
Speaker 2: see like the Bill Cosby style crap going on. But
Speaker 2: there was some wild stuff going on where I'm like,
Speaker 2: how do you guys get away with this? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like like really, and I mean and
Speaker 2: it was more on the tame side of things. I
Speaker 2: was going to strip clubs with Tommy Lee, you know,
Speaker 2: and like he's doing stuff, but I mean he was
Speaker 2: above board compared to these guys. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It's like, where the hell? And meanwhile, we
Speaker 2: were telling people about this again ten years ago and
Speaker 2: they just called us crazy, and it was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're crazy, but I'm telling you it's real, you know.
Speaker 2: And and now it like comes out, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, well, that stuff really was happening. It was.
Speaker 8: I mean, how many times do you have to be proven? Right?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just thinking all.
Speaker 8: The time I've invested in this, all the time you've
Speaker 8: invested in this, and we've gonea We did a Wednesday
Speaker 8: night calling show seeing You and talk some serious truth
Speaker 8: about anarchy and freedom and and how bad government and
Speaker 8: power and class, you know, class, you know, rich and poor,
Speaker 8: separating the class and at least think they can do
Speaker 8: whatever they want to do because they hold all the power,
Speaker 8: they hold all the money. You know, might makes right.
Speaker 8: I mean, look at the world today. I mean it
Speaker 8: just keeps getting worse, and like we're just blue in
Speaker 8: the face. I mean I stopped doing radio again now
Speaker 8: because I'm just calling it here once in the blue
Speaker 8: mood with you, because I'm just blue in the face.
Speaker 2: Bro, I got you now. Look, I appreciate it. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you joining us when you can, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: anybody joining us. But look, I'm gonna stick you on
Speaker 2: hold again real quick, and I think I'm gonna bring
Speaker 2: everybody back around for like a final run uh here.
Speaker 2: But I want to give BP a chance to say
Speaker 2: anything he wants to say about anything uh here, because
Speaker 2: we haven't heard from you much tonight. B Pete. I know,
Speaker 2: you know, we kind of got tied up there with
Speaker 2: with Bob Groden and a few other things for a
Speaker 2: minute there. But uh you know what, what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts here on this whole conversation this week?
Speaker 4: Well, the Diddy stuff, it's you know, I'm surprised it
Speaker 4: took this long to come out, but then again, it's it's.
Speaker 3: Like the whole it's wildly weinstein thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the people are claiming, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 4: we do it all wrong, so nothing surprises me.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew what was going on as just I guess
Speaker 3: he was one of those.
Speaker 4: Who felt like you didn't have to worry about along
Speaker 4: end of the wall reaching out and touching him.
Speaker 3: But you know, and I met that guy found out.
Speaker 2: I met that guy years ago. But I seriously had
Speaker 2: no hint of this kind of uh uh you know, debaucherys.
Speaker 2: I mean, I knew the guy was like, you know,
Speaker 2: one of these weirdos who you know, thought he was
Speaker 2: entire He was like an entitled guy already, even though
Speaker 2: bad Boy was just starting out in the nineties and uh,
Speaker 2: you know it was gonna be a big thing. It
Speaker 2: was going to be a big thing. But he was
Speaker 2: already like, uh, you know, like a superstar diva kind
Speaker 2: of guy, you know what I mean. Like I could
Speaker 2: see that already, And he was just meeting with some musicians.
Speaker 4: Waiting, waiting to see if anything's going to come out
Speaker 4: of any connection to the Tupac shooting.
Speaker 3: M That's the part I'm interested.
Speaker 2: In, because well that right there, I got.
Speaker 3: Uh, I got Dwayne what h Keith? What is his
Speaker 3: last role.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, KEVG the guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, they got him, you know, based on what
Speaker 4: he has said. And I'm just wondering if he's said
Speaker 4: anything to try to lessen the amount of responsibility a bit.
Speaker 3: A dal out of things and if he can you know,
Speaker 3: connect get to what.
Speaker 7: Would all up to.
Speaker 2: Well, if he does, people are gonna be you know.
Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing is all this, you know,
Speaker 2: crazy sex parties and everything. Does he have time to
Speaker 2: organize a murder? I don't know, you know, And does
Speaker 2: it go that far? I don't know how twisted this
Speaker 2: guy win, you know, on the dark side, because like
Speaker 2: I said, if you met him in an office somewhere
Speaker 2: or something, it was one thing. But I guess if
Speaker 2: he got into his inner circle it was something else.
Speaker 2: Because I mean some of these people are making claims
Speaker 2: that like even when he was just starting to get rich,
Speaker 2: you know, he was already deep when it came to
Speaker 2: this stuff. Yeah uh, And I mean it's outrageous. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the thing that got people moving is that
Speaker 2: video where he's beating the hell out of that girl.
Speaker 2: I mean it's vicious.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?
Speaker 4: One thing was Yeah, when the girlfriend filed the lawsuit
Speaker 4: and he settled it the next day. That's when things
Speaker 4: really opened up that it was after that. I think
Speaker 4: that they got in there or they after the awards
Speaker 4: to go and search his place. The big thing now
Speaker 4: is they say that there's three taps running around out
Speaker 4: there telling Diddy and some uh very let's say popular
Speaker 4: entertainers caught doing things on these three films, and somebody
Speaker 4: is shopping them around to see.
Speaker 5: What kind of money they can get for him.
Speaker 10: I don't know if Tim's he is good on them yet,
Speaker 10: but I'm sure they'll be in the bidding if it's
Speaker 10: if they're put out there for offer, curious to see
Speaker 10: who else is going to get caught up in this.
Speaker 3: But there's gonna do some people that are threating things
Speaker 3: here for a little bit.
Speaker 2: I bet you there are, because look, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: millions of dollars worth of damage can be done to somebody,
Speaker 2: and somebody is going to make a fortune off of
Speaker 2: some some videotation stuff probably. Anyways, I'm gonna let these
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Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm gonna let everybody loose here at the end,
Speaker 2: and uh, let's see, we got Kent, we got Jimmy.
Speaker 2: That's all that's left on hold. So they're no longer
Speaker 2: on hold. And we only got a couple of minutes
Speaker 2: until Aaron Franz goes live with the Age of Transitions.
Speaker 2: I got about four minutes left.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my boy, was their types of slavery is So
Speaker 5: my point was one was one seventy years ago and
Speaker 5: one's happening right now today.
Speaker 2: Well it's been happening. It's been, you know what, across yeah,
Speaker 2: across the across the world. Though Jimmy, people don't realize
Speaker 2: that slavery never stopped. It stopped in the United States
Speaker 2: on a legal level, that's for sure. Uh, but there's
Speaker 2: still the illegal and the underground, and it's a worldwide
Speaker 2: sickness that's out there that people are bought and sold,
Speaker 2: Vulnerable people are taken advantage of and become chattel commodities.
Speaker 2: Sex trafficking is common, but human trafficking for all sorts
Speaker 2: of reasons is on our planet, and I think it's
Speaker 2: one of those things that is a blight on the
Speaker 2: soul of humanity, quite honestly.
Speaker 8: And I think you can argue with wage labor too.
Speaker 8: A lot of the time where people can't make a
Speaker 8: living wage here in this country, too much money goes
Speaker 8: to this, that and the other wars and everything else
Speaker 8: instead of helping the citizens here. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 8: a form of slavery in its own way, you know,
Speaker 8: as far as wage.
Speaker 2: Labor in a wage slavery in a way.
Speaker 8: Let's just pay everybody a living wage, we get rid
Speaker 8: of poverty.
Speaker 2: Look, Ken, I agree, I can agree with you there,
Speaker 2: But nothing is quite as deeply evil as as you know,
Speaker 2: people literally being treated as.
Speaker 8: Chattel owning another human being.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literal ownership of another human being is one of
Speaker 2: the most evil things possible, you know, in my mind,
Speaker 2: especially with the way people are treated. Like I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, at a certain point, you weren't allowed
Speaker 2: to murder your slaves. If you remember that, there was
Speaker 2: that big case in New Orleans where that woman was
Speaker 2: like torturing and doing crazy things to her slaves there.
Speaker 2: She was literally like doing weird experiments and cutting them
Speaker 2: open and seeing if she could keep them alive while
Speaker 2: she had their bodies open, and weird stuff like that.
Speaker 2: In New Orleans, you know, the town literally turned against
Speaker 2: her and went after her, even though they were slaves,
Speaker 2: you know, because it was just it was absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 2: I can't remember her name, but she I covered it
Speaker 2: on a show with Carmine at one time where we
Speaker 2: went into the actual history of that woman in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: And maybe I should look that up real fast before
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 8: And oh, one other thing years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they based one of those American horror stories about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they based one of those American horror stories on it
Speaker 2: at one point where it was like it was Madam
Speaker 2: something or other, uh, you know, French sounding name in
Speaker 2: New Orleans and uh. But that, oh, that comedy thing
Speaker 2: that Jimmy James mentioned that I was going to play.
Speaker 2: Here's the sound from that. While we will take a
Speaker 2: listen to that as we get ready to close out.
Speaker 2: That says the Vice President's resident.
Speaker 4: You're the debate.
Speaker 18: About the time, JESU looks like I got to notify
Speaker 18: the Secret Service because we are under a snack attack.
Speaker 4: Doggie, I am feeling good tonight.
Speaker 3: We have got momentum.
Speaker 11: Liz Cheney's about to endorse me and Bruce Springstreet.
Speaker 14: Bruce Springsteen, let me say that again, and Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 11: Cat. Maybe I was born to run.
Speaker 14: The bulls are looking great and I may have accidentally
Speaker 14: googled myself too. Turns out some people are calling me
Speaker 14: a grillf which means golden retriever.
Speaker 3: I'd like to French.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's wrong.
Speaker 14: That's probably wrong. Anyway, when Joe Biden said see you later,
Speaker 14: did he mean he was coming over tonight.
Speaker 3: No, he went back to the White House. Oh, looks
Speaker 3: like it's just Mamala and Pooh Bear.
Speaker 8: Douggie.
Speaker 1: All right, are let's watch