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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it start at five o'clock here

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<v Speaker 2>on a game day Tuesday, Louisville, Syracuse tonight seven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky will be taken on Mississippi State at seven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>and both teams favored here and both teams coming off

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<v Speaker 2>wins that had some real value. I mean, Kentucky, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a lot of chances to get wins with

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<v Speaker 2>value in the SEC. But that Lass said Georgia, probably

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a reason Kentucky was underdogs in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>But they played well like they seemingly do pretty often,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a big win for him. And now they've

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<v Speaker 2>got A and M at home, and A and M's

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<v Speaker 2>without their best players. So I don't say that to

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<v Speaker 2>try to discredit a potential win before it happens. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you play in such a tough conference, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you take advantage of the of the breaks

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<v Speaker 2>that you get. And I don't think anybody wants way

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor to be hurt, but clearly you could take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of him not being there about beating this team and

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<v Speaker 2>here's something that can help that that that is another

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<v Speaker 2>beneficial factors that despite him being hurt, the formulas don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that, right, the net rankings don't know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking on this A and M team without their best players.

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<v Speaker 2>So Louisville much different situation. They're coming off a win

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<v Speaker 2>where it was the win left on the schedule at

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<v Speaker 2>that point that had the most value, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>with that comes a real challenge. But they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to get it done knocking off Pittsburgh. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>can play the way you've played the last five games

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<v Speaker 2>and just being in a position that you're in right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you've now got a Syracuse game on the road where

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<v Speaker 2>you are understandably favored by eight points, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>real level of expectation in regards to, yeah, you should

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<v Speaker 2>win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>You could lose.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be the biggest shocker in college basketball. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be a humongous deal. But I think to us,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess to the credit of Louisville's team, Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelcey and his crew, they've now put themselves in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to where if they do have an off night.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope nobody bails on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that the criticism and then the concern isn't

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<v Speaker 2>next level, although wouldn't shock me if it is, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know our fan base. But you know, they've played

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<v Speaker 2>well enough to where this is. This is a weird game,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's another sign meaning that, hey, they've shown how

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<v Speaker 2>good they can be. We know who they are, we

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<v Speaker 2>know who Syracuse is. It's January fourteenth, it's not late

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<v Speaker 2>in the season, but it's damn sure not early. So

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<v Speaker 2>with that, go take care of business, Go get a

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<v Speaker 2>road win in conference play. And since we started the

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<v Speaker 2>segment here in the five o'clock hour, there's been some

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<v Speaker 2>movement or Louisville now favored by eight and a half

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<v Speaker 2>against against Syracuse. It was within like the last five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes Kentucky. They are seven point favorites in this matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me just check here again the net rankings.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hate nerd adding nerding out on these numbers

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<v Speaker 2>and saying formulas, Ken Palm, net ranking, all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but it matters.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if you don't agree with it, because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty vocal that I think the formulas out there

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<v Speaker 2>they get referenced the most ken palm in the net.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I look at them all the time, I factor

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<v Speaker 2>in the net whenever whenever i'm making you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>factor in ken palm quite a bit whenever I'm making wagers,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I reference them. But clearly there's not as much factored

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<v Speaker 2>in when it comes to winning and losing games. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you've been in this position to where you

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<v Speaker 2>can be a team that's barely above five hundred overall,

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<v Speaker 2>have a losing record in your league, but if you're

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<v Speaker 2>competitive every night despite losing in a good league, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a much better number than you should. But Syracuse

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<v Speaker 2>right now, they are sitting at where are they, Syracuse?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still scrolling here. Damn, Syracuse is one forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>in the net. They're eight and eight overall, and gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still scrolling here. You got to go down to

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<v Speaker 2>the So there's three hundred and sixty four teams here

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<v Speaker 2>in Division one college basketball, and Boston College is the

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<v Speaker 2>worst team in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Net at nine and eight. Miami is next in line

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<v Speaker 3>at they're four and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>So Boston College is at two twenty eight, Miami's at

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<v Speaker 2>two oh nine, Virginia Tech is at one seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech is one forty eight, and Syracuse is one

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven. Virginia is at one thirty eight. So the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the ACC is bad, real bad. So again

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<v Speaker 2>qs is. I was thinking maybe q S could end up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, inching towards the top one hundred, and this

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<v Speaker 2>would maybe be a quad two opportunity, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going to happen if you're entering well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're four games into conference play without any non conference

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<v Speaker 2>games left, and you're eight and eight and one seven overall. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I stand by what I said a moment ago. We

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<v Speaker 2>know who Syracuse is, so mean Louisville can go in

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<v Speaker 2>there and play poorly and still win. We know that,

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<v Speaker 2>But we also know that they should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of business and get another victory tonight. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was not aware of this, but thank you to

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<v Speaker 2>the text line for letting me know. Tonight on the

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<v Speaker 2>call on the ACC network, you will have Eric Dievendorf

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<v Speaker 2>as your color analyst, and I'm assuming Louisville fans listening

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<v Speaker 2>know that name when I say Eric Dievendorf. You know

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm talking about. Pretty a pretty memorable name, just

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not that common, and he was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>memorable player for a variety of reasons. One, he was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good, but also, you know, he was he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a villain, was he not?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he was a villain, one of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys that was good enough to be arrogant at times,

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<v Speaker 2>and a guy that you know, was a part of

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<v Speaker 2>some good Syracuse teams. And I'm sure Syracuse fans loved him,

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<v Speaker 2>but they understood why every other fan base didn't like him,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you know how he played. But he's now

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<v Speaker 2>in the broadcast world and he is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the color analyst, which I'm not surprised, Like I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the text that I got telling

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<v Speaker 2>me that he was going to be on the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look to just confirm that that was correct.

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<v Speaker 2>And you are correct, And I would imagine if it's

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<v Speaker 2>something Louisville fans are discussing, maybe they're just acknowledging that,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was a villain and now he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the call, or maybe they're claiming that he

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a part of the broadcast because he will

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to be unbiased due to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he played at CUES. I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have much of a reaction to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I used to think that this was just something that

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<v Speaker 2>would never end up happening. But if you are, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of other examples than just this one.

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<v Speaker 2>But like Katie George, she is, she's I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly a big deal at ESPN for or colleague of

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<v Speaker 2>ours here at seven to ninety and she's a part

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<v Speaker 2>of ESPN's top coverage of sports, including the NFL, including

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<v Speaker 2>college football. And she also is a huge part of

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<v Speaker 2>volleyball for ESPN because you know, she was a volleyball

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<v Speaker 2>star here at Louisville, so she's in that space and

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<v Speaker 2>she gets to do Louisville games despite her being a

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<v Speaker 2>U OFL alum. So Jay billis, he's always been able

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<v Speaker 2>to do duke games from what I can tell, So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like the top level. If you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you get the benefit of the doubt that

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be professional and not let your favoritism

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<v Speaker 2>play out in the broadcast. So again, there's probably more

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<v Speaker 2>examples that I'm just blanking on. So I guess if

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<v Speaker 2>it's you feeling like he shouldn't be able to do

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<v Speaker 2>it because he's going to just be slobber and all

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<v Speaker 2>over Syracuse, I mean get I get your concern, but

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<v Speaker 2>typically those broadcasters that end up in these positions, they're

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<v Speaker 2>well aware that they need to need to balance that

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<v Speaker 2>and not be partial to one team. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that he was working for the ACC network,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did not. I don't has he done it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's done a Louisville game before and

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't remember which one it was, So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we've had him before and he was fine. But now

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be on the call, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>it's for his his alma mater. But I would be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if he's, you know, glazing Syracuse one, because as

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<v Speaker 2>a former player, he can't be happy, he can't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they're in a good spot. In fact, if I

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<v Speaker 2>was Deevendorf, and look, maybe they play well tonight beat Louivell,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that doesn't happen. But if I was Deevendorf.

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<v Speaker 2>My my worry would be about not being, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a Homer. But if in fact this QS team shows

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<v Speaker 2>up tonight and they're the same Q's team they've been

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<v Speaker 2>and they maybe get blown out or something, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have a hard time in his position not making it

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<v Speaker 2>clear that I'm upset, which again is the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the opposing fans would not care, and the fans

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<v Speaker 2>of Syracuse would probably support him and agree with him,

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<v Speaker 2>so it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But

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<v Speaker 2>if if bias is showing and it's because they're loving

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<v Speaker 2>on the opponent, it would make the other fan base

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<v Speaker 2>certainly feel a certain way. But yeah, it's it's more

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<v Speaker 2>so common than I would have ever expected. And again

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're in that position in broadcasting, they

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<v Speaker 2>assume that you'll be able to handle that, although there's

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<v Speaker 2>also really no scenario, Like there are some announcers you

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<v Speaker 2>probably could guess, but you wouldn't really know if they

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<v Speaker 2>have root like you would never know if they have

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<v Speaker 2>rooting interests. You would never know when they sit down

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<v Speaker 2>to call a game if in their mind they have

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<v Speaker 2>a preference in who wins or loses. But they're humans,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably do to an extent. So you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>with these situations where you've got Dieveendorf or Billis, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that their preference is that they they it's impossible

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<v Speaker 2>for them to be truly like who cares. Now, you

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<v Speaker 2>can still do your you can have rooting interest and

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<v Speaker 2>do your job and be objective and not make it

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<v Speaker 2>sound like you care about either team. But the question

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<v Speaker 2>is is already answered with certain athletes because again they

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<v Speaker 2>are a part of said program. They if you end

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<v Speaker 2>up being a broadcaster calling a game for the sport

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<v Speaker 2>you played, you know what, that probably means you were

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<v Speaker 2>really good at that sport. So you know you clearly

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<v Speaker 2>care about the program. But you can still do your

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<v Speaker 2>job effectively, and and you know it's no big issue

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, Billis to me, and maybe I'm wrong here, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still think Jay billis Is is good at

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm I'm I'm not. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>would say I'm like a big fan of J. Billis.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like him well enough, but like he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of become miserable at times. And I think we

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<v Speaker 2>used to think him complaining about officiating and reviews and

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<v Speaker 2>like he's not afraid to call him out and and

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<v Speaker 2>now it just kind of sounds like, all right, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>we get it, we get it. You don't respect the NCAA. Geez,

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<v Speaker 2>can we give you the one eight hundred number to

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<v Speaker 2>leave a message that you're unhappy? Like we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bad call, and now we're like, come on, billis, geez,

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<v Speaker 2>we get it. So he's always been, I think, really

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<v Speaker 2>not annoying, but just I don't know, it's a little stale,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose, but when it comes to others that are

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<v Speaker 2>in this position, he's clearly one of the best. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can like I'll never know, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this is just me giving myself credit for something

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never be able to actually prove that I can do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like I would know that Billis had

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<v Speaker 2>like he will at times make it clear and say

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<v Speaker 2>probably true, but he'll he'll take advantage of giving you

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<v Speaker 2>an example of where he'll he'll say that maybe Duke

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<v Speaker 2>got a favorable call or something like that. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he'll also at times and just how he says it

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<v Speaker 2>with something that went against Duke, or or he'll do

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<v Speaker 2>at times lightly what I just mentioned you may see

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<v Speaker 2>from Debendorf if of course, you know he slips up,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that like when Duke is not playing

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<v Speaker 2>well and Duke is struggling, or a player like Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Billis took it personal when Grayson Allen was out there

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<v Speaker 2>tripping people, right, because you know, anybody who supports that

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<v Speaker 2>is a loser, and I don't think anybody does. But

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<v Speaker 2>if there was going to be somebody defending Grayson Allen

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<v Speaker 2>and his addiction to tripping people, it would be Duke fans,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know it's their guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Billis though, like he's having to talk about it and

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<v Speaker 2>he's embarrassed. He wouldn't be embarrassed about it as much

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<v Speaker 2>or mabe at all if it's any other program. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got ACC Network tonight, and it looks like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see it looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the play by play Doug Sherman, So Doug Sherman

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<v Speaker 2>and Eric Devendorf tonight. This question came in on the

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a good question, and I'm buying some time

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<v Speaker 2>here to try to give you an answer. But the

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<v Speaker 2>question is, well, I guess the text was. Nick helped

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<v Speaker 2>me out. My buddy and I at work are in

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<v Speaker 2>an argument. He claimed Syracuse is a mini rival of Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you agree? I think I'll put it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we use the.

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<v Speaker 2>Word rival and rivalry, which, of course you know we

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<v Speaker 2>know what it means. Those are technically two different words,

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<v Speaker 2>but we use that way too loosely. Because you could

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<v Speaker 2>have history with a program, you cannot like them more

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<v Speaker 2>so than another team. Maybe there's a team you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really care about. Beating them is like beating anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>other than your rival. But like, you can have history

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<v Speaker 2>and you can dislike a team. But I think again,

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<v Speaker 2>we use that way too loosely because I have, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no energy or emotion towards anything with Syracuse

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<v Speaker 2>basketball at all. I don't wish that they stink. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>don't wish that they succeed. I don't have any real

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<v Speaker 2>care about them. But yes, Louisville does in fact have

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<v Speaker 2>history like they've had some. In fact, we see if

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<v Speaker 2>I can pull up the game notes here, because I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine historically speaking that the all time record between

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<v Speaker 2>these two teams is pretty competitive. And I think Patino

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<v Speaker 2>and Beheim, their connection, their history together, I feel like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that was a talking point in the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's history. It's been competitive usually. Beating them is

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<v Speaker 2>valuable this year not so much, to be fair, than

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<v Speaker 2>beating us recently wasn't super valuable as well. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the number in front of me as

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<v Speaker 2>far as yeah, here he goes says, I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>lois of game notes, and it doesn't give me anything

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<v Speaker 2>specific about the Syracuse matchup here. I know there's something

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<v Speaker 2>out there, I just don't I don't have it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me, but I'm dying to know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, here we go, Here we go. Dana Brown, how

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<v Speaker 3>about her?

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<v Speaker 2>She's the sid for UL basketball, took over for Zach

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<v Speaker 2>Greenwell who left us to go to LSU.

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<v Speaker 3>But she's doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I found her game notes, and again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where I just got to get better. I am stuck on,

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<v Speaker 2>not being able to move on until I actually see

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<v Speaker 2>a number that is really not relevant to the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>that really isn't even relevant to the show. It's useless

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<v Speaker 2>information at this point, but I can't let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dying to find out what the all time record

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<v Speaker 2>is between these two teams when they play each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's in here somewhere. But regardless, what I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting at is, despite there being history and despite there

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a game where there'd be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of value, I don't feel any rivalry energy emotion to

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<v Speaker 2>where I would say there are a mini rival or

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<v Speaker 2>any type of rival at all. I think Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville are such big rivals within with each other that

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that you loosely call a rival. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>on another planet, you know, in a lower level compared

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<v Speaker 2>to the rivalry that you have, like when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a big time rival, especially when you're around here in

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville where we all coexist together and there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville fans, there's so many Kentucky fans. You probably are

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<v Speaker 2>related to somebody from the other side. You might work

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody from the other side, you might have you

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<v Speaker 2>might have had kids with somebody from the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, like trust me, we were all. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I think that it's so special and different here

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<v Speaker 2>than anywhere else in the state of Kentucky, you're really anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because there's so many of both sides here, So

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<v Speaker 2>when it's that heavy, I rarely ever even think of

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<v Speaker 2>any other program that is technically considered a rival to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think of them that way. But like

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati is a rival in basketball, Memphis is a rival historically.

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<v Speaker 3>But not in alone long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then outside of that, like you had like Marquette,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like there was some rivalry energy

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<v Speaker 2>there from a basketball standpoint, But again, those are nothing

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<v Speaker 2>close to Kentucky. So I don't, you know, like people

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<v Speaker 2>used to say that Louisville and Clemson there was like

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<v Speaker 2>a they were a rival like that kind of died quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>my memory is correct, but it used to come up

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<v Speaker 2>and it would irritate me because I would think, why

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<v Speaker 2>are we rivals? Like we've never beat them until this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing Wake Forest. I don't know where that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly a good look for Louisville football to claim that

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<v Speaker 2>they ar rivals with Wake Forest. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>rival with a program of the wake Forest level. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess because of the history, because of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I say history, I think everybody knows what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>referring to. But obviously they played in the Orange Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the Waking League situation, there was the Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>Colburn situation. The kid who got gray shirted by Bobby

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<v Speaker 2>went to Wake and led us up. I mean, there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's history to an extent, But like that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make them a rival Virginia, Like I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like somebody said Virginia was a rival

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<v Speaker 2>one time.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in basketball, they have got our number they've

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<v Speaker 2>been a thorn on our side. But there I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll give you an example. Tennessee and Kentucky are

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<v Speaker 2>close to each other. That's the only layer between the

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<v Speaker 2>two that gives them any ability to claim.

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<v Speaker 3>That their rivals.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you're in southern Kentucky and you live

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<v Speaker 2>near Tennessee the border, then I guess it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's probably a lot of Kentucky fans and Tennessee fans together,

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<v Speaker 2>but Tennessee doesn't consider you arrival. They consider Alabama the

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<v Speaker 2>arrival or Vandy even I guess actually Tennessee considers Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like there's somebody else in the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>that they claim to be a bit like. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think for any rivalry to be truly a rivalry in

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<v Speaker 2>my eyes, And again, I'm sure people see it differently,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine. I'm not the ultimate decider on how

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<v Speaker 2>this works, but I think it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be a two way street. It's gotta be.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't even mean from a competitive standpoint, that

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<v Speaker 2>certainly helps, right, there's no doubt Louisville needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>a little more competitive in the rivalry in basketball, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we all know that, but it's a two

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<v Speaker 2>way street in regards to the hatred, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes it a rival. That's what makes it a great rival,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what makes it one of the best. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with all that said, I don't. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse fans think much about Louisville, and I know I don't. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>your buddy, I'm gonna say that if again, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you yeah, I think you were on. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I gave you the answer you were wanting for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if your buddy cares or not. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I get where he's coming from as far as

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<v Speaker 2>the history, but as far as Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a mini rival, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't claim that they are, and I don't if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm claiming many rivals, it's actual rivals, but they're just

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<v Speaker 2>so far and away different than Kentucky. And those are

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<v Speaker 2>the schools I mentioned, Cincinnati, Marquette, Memphis, maybe West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope, I hope my answered. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>helped your argument with your buddy. I doubt you can

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<v Speaker 2>bring this to him and he'll say, Okay, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>admit it. Nick Coffee said it, so I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he'll probably make his own case, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know he has every right to do that. And speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of rivals, this this story, this is a little bit old,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's got me thinking because I think, honestly, when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to college basketball, the most comparable rival to

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville Kentucky is Xavier Cincinnati. Seriously, I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And Duke and Carolina will always be viewed as the

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<v Speaker 2>best and biggest rivalry in college basketball, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really argue against that because when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to it, North Carolina and Duke are two of

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<v Speaker 2>have a ton of accolades, they're clearly rivals, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been both super successful. And the competitiveness, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pull it up here because the time record between

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina and Duke and basketball just a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>they played countless times and it was like fifty to fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>like they'd split it. And that's just I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. Or actually, I'm sorry, let me back up.

419
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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina still holds the edge one forty three to

420
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<v Speaker 2>one seventeen, but in the past fifty years. Yeah, in

421
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<v Speaker 2>the past fifty years. This was from February of last year.

422
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<v Speaker 2>In the last fifty years, Duke and Carolina have split

423
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<v Speaker 2>their one hundred and fourteen meetings, with each having fifty

424
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<v Speaker 2>seven wins to fifty seven losses. Again, that is why

425
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<v Speaker 2>that is. You know, it's super competitive. They're always really

426
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<v Speaker 2>good in their huge programs. Like that's why they're always

427
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<v Speaker 2>going to have the edge over Louisville Kentucky, and I

428
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<v Speaker 2>don't have a problem with it, but I think what

429
00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:51.759
<v Speaker 2>makes the rivalry what it is is fans, not history.

430
00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, history is a part of it, but like

431
00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:57.559
<v Speaker 2>fans are the ones who really players in college don't

432
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<v Speaker 2>decide what a rivalry is. They don't stick around that long. Right,

433
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's history between the two teams, but like teams

434
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<v Speaker 2>change over the years, it's the fans that make it

435
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<v Speaker 2>a rivalry. The energy and the emotion from a fan

436
00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is what makes rivalries exist, and they clearly have that there.

437
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<v Speaker 2>But I just think we're on a different level for

438
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<v Speaker 2>a variety of reasons. But again I'm biased, but Xavier

439
00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.519
<v Speaker 2>and Cincinnati is really really intense, and that's those aren't

440
00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.079
<v Speaker 2>as big a programs. But man, that's I think you

441
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.039
<v Speaker 2>don't even have to follow college basketball that closely to

442
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<v Speaker 2>know that. And the reason I bring them up is

443
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<v Speaker 2>because it's one of the old time rivalry troll moves

444
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<v Speaker 2>that it's just so elite. I mean, I got to

445
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<v Speaker 2>tip my cap to Xavier here. So apparently there was

446
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<v Speaker 2>a middle school here in Kentucky, I believe in Taylor

447
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:42.480
<v Speaker 2>County that got sent a cease and assist in regards

448
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<v Speaker 2>to their logo. I guess they're the bear Cats and

449
00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati told them that they can't use that logo because

450
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<v Speaker 2>of copyright. And that's not that uncommon. But when I

451
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<v Speaker 2>understand you can you can sign something acknowledging that, you know,

452
00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.799
<v Speaker 2>like it's just a paperwork kind of thing to where

453
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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati is gonna give you the pass and tell you

454
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<v Speaker 2>that one you're good. We don't believe we're going to

455
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 2>lose value of our logo because you're middle school in Kentucky.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Or they can say you're good, but you have to

457
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<v Speaker 2>make this change or that change. Well, apparently Cincinnati told

458
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.079
<v Speaker 2>them they needed to change something, and this middle school

459
00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.480
<v Speaker 2>did not have the resources to go through, you know,

460
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.160
<v Speaker 2>updating their logo. So they just decided to say, let's

461
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.160
<v Speaker 2>let's rebrand and start from scratch. We don't you know,

462
00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.759
<v Speaker 2>that'll be easier than having to you know, because what

463
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>they'd have to do is not only not only would

464
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.440
<v Speaker 2>they have to just make a correction to a graphic

465
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>in regards to what they can show as far as

466
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the bear cats, they'd also have to like no longer

467
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.440
<v Speaker 2>use any gear that had the previous version of their

468
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>bear cat. So like, it wasn't just an easy thing

469
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.039
<v Speaker 2>to do. If they'd have told them they were good,

470
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.119
<v Speaker 2>then it would have been fine. So I don't even

471
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>know if they fought back, but it became a thing,

472
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know who found out about it, Xavier. So

473
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Xavier gave them some kind of an investment to help

474
00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 2>them with their rebrand. When it comes to guess resources

475
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>that needed, right cost and graphics, and I mean probably

476
00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot that goes into it. Xavier foot of the

477
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>bill and made this middle school. Now the Musketeers just

478
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 2>like Xavier, and they did it, of course, you know,

479
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to spite their rival. And that's that's great rivalry heat

480
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>right there. Man's that's even if you're Cincinnati, you tip

481
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 2>the cap there and you feel you feel a level

482
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 2>of like camaraderie, like all right, yeah, score one of

483
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 2>those guys. We'll get them back and we'll be even

484
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>better because that's how much we hate each other like it.

485
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of crazy, at least I think it is.

486
00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, let's get to a quick break. I'm a

487
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<v Speaker 2>one man operation right now, so I just realized, oh yeah,

488
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I probably need to get to commercial break soon. It's

489
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<v Speaker 2>five twenty seven, So anyways, we will take a quick

490
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<v Speaker 2>time out come back on the other side. Keep this

491
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<v Speaker 2>thing rolling along. A lot more to get into, so

492
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<v Speaker 2>stick with us. Right here, it's Coffee and Company. Phil

493
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<v Speaker 2>about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven to ninety.

494
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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on

495
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

496
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<v Speaker 2>That's right, it is Coffee and Company. We got about

497
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<v Speaker 2>twenty five minutes left here on a Tuesday afternoon, a

498
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<v Speaker 2>cold Tuesday. In fact, it's getting dark outside. It's probably

499
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<v Speaker 2>evening in the eyes of most now, but it is

500
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>cold and it's going to be even colder tomorrow, which

501
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I feel like today, and I guess even even yesterday

502
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:46.799
<v Speaker 2>at times like it felt way colder than it was

503
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>when we had all that snow, so stay warm today.

504
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<v Speaker 2>I was on sixty five right before I got to

505
00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm really good at getting anywhere I need to go downtown,

506
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>especially for some who you know, didn't spend a lot

507
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 2>of time downtown growing up or anything like that. But

508
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm so bad at knowing the name of the streets.

509
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I can give you, Muhammad Ali, I know Brook Street,

510
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.279
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know where I was. But I was

511
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to get off whatever exit I get off of,

512
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and there was a vehicle to my right that was

513
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>slightly behind me, and I put my blinker on, and

514
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you know that was they acknowledged the blinker and they

515
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:20.400
<v Speaker 2>were going to do one of two things, slow down

516
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and let me over stay where they were. I guess

517
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>three things, slow down and let me over, speed up

518
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 2>and get out of my way and let me over,

519
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>or be an a hole and just kind of, you know,

520
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 2>block me. But they sped up and it was a

521
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 2>decent I mean, it was a new ish vehicle. I

522
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think it was brand new. It was like a

523
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>white I want to say, maybe like a mid size suv.

524
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a Hyundai. And it looked like

525
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>a newer vehicle. And they had the window in the

526
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.039
<v Speaker 2>back seat on the driver's side down and the window

527
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 2>on the on the passenger seat in the front down.

528
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I noticed it once when she sped past me and

529
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 2>let me over. I know, I noticed that the back

530
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>window was down on the driver's side, and then once

531
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I got over.

532
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 3>And I got off the exit, I saw the other side.

533
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:07.519
<v Speaker 3>So this is it's been.

534
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 2>It drove me crazy, thinking there's got to be a

535
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 2>malfunction here, Like nobody would choose to have the windows

536
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>down in this weather, and nobody would choose for those.

537
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Windows to be down, So.

538
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's I'm probably something nobody else would have given

539
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 2>any thought or even noticed. But it made me think, like,

540
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 2>if you're driving with the windows down, it has to

541
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.119
<v Speaker 2>be because there's something wrong with your window and it's broke,

542
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, you would freeze to death. I mean

543
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 2>not literally, but like who would want to do that?

544
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Like there are some people who don't have air don't

545
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 2>have air conditioning in the car when it's one hundred

546
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 2>degrees outside, and obviously that that stings, and if their

547
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>windows are down, you're assuming that they have no AC

548
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's that's what they're doing to you. Know,

549
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 2>not suffocate inside a hot car with no AC in

550
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the summer. But when I see it

551
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>be you know, when it's when it's a bazillion degrees outside,

552
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 2>and it would it would be a rare situation for

553
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like a Newish car to not I AC. It could

554
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>be broke, I suppose, But like when people choose windows

555
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 2>down in the extreme conditions. But and it's a choice thing,

556
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>like I just I'll never understand it. It also makes

557
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>me realize I'm really soft because I know back in

558
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the day there wasn't heat in AC in vehicles. In fact,

559
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 2>some homes didn't have it. So I'm very fortunate and

560
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I guess spoiled to have had those amenities. And I

561
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:29.000
<v Speaker 2>went one summer without having AC in my car, and

562
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I was probably like twenty two, twenty three years old,

563
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and it was I mean, it was a time in

564
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 2>my life where I had just gotten started in a

565
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 2>career that I'm not in now, and I was getting

566
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.839
<v Speaker 2>married and I felt like, Okay, I've become a grown

567
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>up here, like grown up things are happening to an extent,

568
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and I need to be responsible with purchases. I need

569
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to be responsible with money. I need to, you know.

570
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we moved into a house, we had a mortgage,

571
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 2>but like I knew, I needed to do something to

572
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 2>put myself in a situation where financially I could get

573
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a different car because I couldn't do it anymore. And

574
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 2>trust me, I'm not doing a pity me because I'm

575
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>sure there are people listening right now that have that.

576
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they've never had a vehicle with AC, so like,

577
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>I get it, I'm soft.

578
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm a diva in the eyes of some.

579
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>But here's why it was even worse for me than others,

580
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>because of the car. I had, a Mitsubishi Eclipse two

581
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 2>was it a two thousand and one or something, and

582
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 2>it was a convertible and nobody told me until like

583
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I got rid of the car that everybody thought that

584
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 2>was like a super like that's a that's.

585
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.599
<v Speaker 3>A girl car. And I never even thought of it.

586
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, once somebody told me that, I

587
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, you're right, nine out of ten people I'll

588
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>see driving this kind of vehicle, it's a woman. But anyways,

589
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 2>I liked it when I got it, and you know,

590
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 2>the AC went out. Wasn't going to pay to get

591
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it fixed because I knew eventually I would just want

592
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to get a new car.

593
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 3>But it was a convertible.

594
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 2>It had black leather, It had a rag top like

595
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>a like a soft top, which was also black. And

596
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 2>because it's a small car, like, the windows are tiny.

597
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.559
<v Speaker 2>So if I was with no AC and it's one

598
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred degrees outside, I could leave the windows down and

599
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the top up, but then I'm just baking with that

600
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>black leather top or whatever.

601
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 1>You know.

602
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the material was, but obviously, I

603
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>mean it was. It made it even hotter. And because

604
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>of how small the windows were, there's no wind coming in,

605
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Like there's no I mean, there's there's ventilation, but like

606
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting anything from the wind because of just

607
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 2>how small the car is, So that sucked. Or I

608
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>could take the top down and if the sun's out,

609
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just sitting there baking on black leather. I mean

610
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 2>it was Again, I know it sound like a poor

611
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>me guy, but it was a time in life where

612
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you'll you'll work hard, Dick, and you'll be

613
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>able to no longer, you know.

614
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Be in this position at some point. But eventually I did.

615
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I got rid of that car, and since then, I've

616
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been blessed to be able to have heat in

617
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the cold winter and uh ac in the in the warm,

618
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>warm summers that we get around here. All Right, we

619
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 2>talked earlier about sports gambling, and I was just sharing

620
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of what I've been doing lately when it comes

621
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to betting on college basketball, I've been really interested in

622
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>betting on games live, which was new to me, and

623
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of you on the text line have let

624
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>me know that you only bet live games, and I

625
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>get it. I mean, I don't know why you would

626
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>only do it, but I used to not even touch

627
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 2>a game if I if it had already started, and

628
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I will now, like if I knew that there was

629
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 2>a certain line that clearly is going to be different now,

630
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>then I'll stay away. And there's nothing worse than knowing

631
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that you just missed the bet and you would have

632
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 2>got the line that you knew was going to be

633
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a good play for you, and then clearly the game started.

634
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>They they've adjusted and now you know you're kind of screwed.

635
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to athletes getting getting in trouble,

636
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>getting caught doing things they're not supposed to be doing,

637
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 2>there have been some pretty mild examples, and I think

638
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>anybody that was in favor of this being a thing

639
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>where sports gambling is legal just about everywhere. I mean

640
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>not everywhere, but in most places. I mean an amount

641
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>of in the amount of seven years or so, it

642
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>is become legal. I mean in a ton of states,

643
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the way more states you can bet legally now than

644
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you can't. And anybody that is in a position of

645
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>like power, anybody that works within these leagues like the NFL,

646
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 2>the NBA, Major League Baseball, they're clearly in business with

647
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>these sports books. Everybody's making a ton of money because

648
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 2>sports betting is legal. They knew when they move forward

649
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>with this that there would be examples, there would be

650
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>situations where they've got to they've got to make an

651
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>example out of somebody and hold them accountable to let

652
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you you know, because there's no scenario that you you

653
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>could ever claim that this would never happen. In fact,

654
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it can be legal in every place other than Vegas

655
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 2>and still happen. That happened in previous you know, eras

656
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of college sports. So anyways, there's no bigger example in

657
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 2>my opinion right now than John tay Porter, who was

658
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 2>the NBA player who of course has been banned for

659
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>life from the league and is now facing federal charges.

660
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Obviously he's in, you know, he's in. He's he's gonna

661
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 2>go to prison because you know he wasn't just I mean,

662
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>there's some guys that, like, for example, who is at

663
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Calvin Ridley, the receiver who was with Jacksonville maybe or

664
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was I don't know who was with, but

665
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe Atlanta. Anyways, he got suspended for a whole year,

666
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but it was because he was just betting on games

667
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the had nothing to do with Like, again, the issue

668
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>there is you just knew you weren't supposed to do it,

669
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and I don't even think what you're doing is really

670
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna harm anybody, but it's silly to think you would

671
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>get away with it. And the risk as an NFL

672
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 2>player given that salary, Like I love the action, it's

673
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 2>fun for me, but like the risk is nowhere near

674
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>the reward for somebody in that position. So some of

675
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 2>these guys that you know that get criticized, it's not

676
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 2>that they're doing something awful, it's just that they're stupid.

677
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what it comes down to.

678
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>And clearly that's the case with John Tay Porter, but

679
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 2>like what he's doing is also stupid and awful because

680
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>he was betting. I mean, he was shaving points. And

681
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 2>the story is not I mean, it's been out there

682
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, but there's now an updated article

683
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>here in The New York Times that features some of

684
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 2>the text messages that he would send to bets during games,

685
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Like this, dude was texting people what to do when

686
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>it comes to betting while playing, Like not while he's

687
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 2>in the league, but like while the game's going on,

688
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>when he's on the bench or he's in the locker

689
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>room at halftime.

690
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 3>One of them says.

691
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Here, there are four quotes from this article that share

692
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 2>the exchanges between John say Porter and Better's during games.

693
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Here's the first one quote, I went back to the

694
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>locker room to get my eye checked on. I mean,

695
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that's probably him letting them know that no worries, I'm

696
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.559
<v Speaker 2>buying time. Or maybe I don't know, maybe he did

697
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 2>get his eye hurt and he's telling them, I can't

698
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>shape points for you right now. My eyes hurt. They

699
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>may not put me back in. This one says, I

700
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'm gonna play much more. This one

701
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>says I'm not starting the second half. The last one

702
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>here is is is great.

703
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 3>But if it's.

704
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Garbage time, I will shoot a million shots. So I

705
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>mean that that's that's just one really stupid. But also

706
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>like I feel like anybody who's in like if you're

707
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a basketball player in the NBA, I mean, clearly, it's

708
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 2>your job, it's your it's how you make a living,

709
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>but there's also a level of integrity and like that's

710
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the kind of thing that if this got wide. The

711
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 2>NBA is already not. By the way, look like the

712
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>NBA is not in trouble, like their viewership is down.

713
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>They just signed it insanely lucrative new media rights deals.

714
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 2>So like the NBA, the NBA is fine. They just

715
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 2>have seen a ratings drop. And I think one of

716
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 2>the factors is that it's just not a it's not

717
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 2>serious when it comes to competition. When you have guys

718
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 2>that just sit out because they want to rest when

719
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>they're perfectly healthy, and you're playing eighty two games, Like

720
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 2>you're not serious about competing. You can't tell me that

721
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 2>games matter when teams knowingly just let guys rest and

722
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 2>you know basically except that they're probably gonna lose like that,

723
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>that's just not good for your product. So you know,

724
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>if there was more, which I think this is going

725
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to be a real rare exception to see the level

726
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>of what went on here with John tay Porter. But like,

727
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>if that was to be a bigger issue where other

728
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 2>we're doing it, that could ruin the NBA, Like that

729
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 2>could absolutely destroy an employer that you know is pretty

730
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 2>special to a lot of people, especially those that you know,

731
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>create generational wealth for working within the league. So I mean,

732
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I think there's some guys that have gotten in trouble

733
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>with it where their teammates or their peers within the

734
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>league probably just look at them like what are you doing?

735
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't be such an idiot, But like this is like okay,

736
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you're you're jeopardizing like everything for everybody with this kind

737
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. Which again, you do this kind of stuff,

738
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 2>you go to prison. And I'm sure, I mean, I

739
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>know it wasn't worth it for John tay Porter, but

740
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>they got to make examples out of people, both the

741
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>NBA and of course you know prosecutors. All right, quick break,

742
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side and wrap this

743
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>thing up.

744
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 3>It's Coffee and Company.

745
00:36:45.400 --> 00:37:00.079
<v Speaker 2>Feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

746
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on

747
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

748
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<v Speaker 2>Just a few minutes left here as we wrap it

749
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>up on a Tuesday afternoon evening. I feel like it

750
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 2>was somebody I'm a textallan to mention this a while

751
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>back that when I was stuck on is this do

752
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 2>I say afternoon or do I say evening?

753
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 3>And they were right.

754
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 2>They made a good point that it actually starts in

755
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 2>the afternoon, but like when you get to the five

756
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour and it starts getting dark outside, I'm not

757
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>sure if that is evening, but it certainly doesn't feel

758
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 2>like afternoon, so it's fair enough. I feel like whenever

759
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, summertime, and it's not dark by the

760
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>time I walk out of here, it's a little bit different.

761
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 2>But we started the afternoon and we pretty much end

762
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 2>in the evening. And we appreciate you for hanging out

763
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.519
<v Speaker 2>with us. And if you ever miss anything, don't forget.

764
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>You can always go check out the podcast on the

765
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>out radio app also anywhere you get podcasts, but I

766
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>think they tell us to recommend you get it on

767
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the out radio app or on Apple podcasts, So it'll

768
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 2>be up shortly after we wrap this thing up. So

769
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 2>just a few minutes left Louisville Syracuse tonight.

770
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I.

771
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of awkward here because Louisville I feel like

772
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 2>it's still a team that I believe needs to do

773
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>certain things well if they want to win games on

774
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>the road in ACC play. And again that is true,

775
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.039
<v Speaker 2>but also I kind of feel like I'd be a

776
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>liar if I said, well, they better do this or

777
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>that or this, because if not, there's no way they win.

778
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 3>Well.

779
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 2>They've shown that they can still win and beat good

780
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 2>teams when certain things don't necessarily go their way, and

781
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 2>that's why they're favored by eight and a half points.

782
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's why this is a game to where I

783
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like this is the first ACC game. And trust me,

784
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting cocky, and it wouldn't matter if I was,

785
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I don't play.

786
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't have a I don't you know,

787
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a.

788
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, it's a little different. So even if

789
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I was getting ahead of myself, it wouldn't matter. But

790
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>they have played well enough, not just with the wins,

791
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 2>but how they've played to where this is a game

792
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>you should go win, and I think they will, So

793
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I would say what's important tonight is, you know, just

794
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>continuing to bring the energy, intensity, effort, physicality. I mean,

795
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I think defense has been the biggest factor in why

796
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 2>this team has been so good in the last five games.

797
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 3>They've they've seemed to be as good or.

798
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Better than everybody they've played when it comes to, you know,

799
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 2>being on the floor for loose balls, hustle, plays those

800
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of things, and yeah, despite at times shots not

801
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>falling and despite Tom's free throws just have been an issue,

802
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 2>they've been able to still you know, I guess some

803
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 2>would say they're getting by and maybe it'll bite you

804
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:36.599
<v Speaker 2>at some point, and you know what, you're probably right,

805
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 2>But there's also a different way to look at it.

806
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 2>They're not they're not you know, avoiding a disaster. They're

807
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 2>they're still finding ways to win. And I think both

808
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>things can can be true. But the Syracuse team, I

809
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>talked about it a little bit earlier, they're they're not good.

810
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 2>They're not they're not having a good season. They're eight

811
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and eight, which again I think that speaks to our

812
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisville is nearly favored about double digits on the road,

813
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 2>but a big part of their season they were without

814
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 2>their player who is really good. He's proven to be

815
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty good and that is JJ Sterling. But he is,

816
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>he is, he's back, and you know, he's he's he's

817
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 2>having a phenomenal season when it comes to you know, production,

818
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 2>He's twenty points a game. And since they since he

819
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 2>has returned this year, they are there. Well, yeah, he's

820
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>played in there. Let's see, he's played in their last

821
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>three games and they are there two and one in

822
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.079
<v Speaker 2>those three games, and they've won their last two and

823
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 2>he's been a big part of that. Twenty six points

824
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>against Boston College the other night, twenty one against Georgia Tech.

825
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.079
<v Speaker 2>So he's he's on a tear right now. So obviously

826
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 2>containing him is going to be key. But I feel

827
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>like I'm I'm justified in being confident that this team's

828
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to do that.

829
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 3>But we shall see.

830
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're out here, you guys, enjoy your evening,

831
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and we'll be back at it tomorrow right here on

832
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>This report is sponsored by Ono Zone, Getting the Zone