Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Inquisition the first episode after Trump
is officially our presidents, and Thomas, Pete and Stormy are
here and Jay Burden has joined us once again.
Speaker 2: Jay, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: All right, dude, we got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1: In particular, Thomas was at the inauguration, so I want
to get a I want us to get a full
report from him, what he thinks about the inauguration, what
he thinks about Trump's delivery, and also just a report
for the the homies on the ground in DC that
he linked up with. I don't know what the crew's
like out there, but saw some stuff on Twitter.
Speaker 2: It looks like you guys had a good time.
Speaker 1: And then in the last week there's been a flurry
of activity and I think, you know, if I may,
I think we're some of the most vindicated guys on
the right who've been talking about Trump because we're you know,
critical when we need to be, we're supportive when we
need to be, and we're realistic and we're not blackpilling.
And I think based on what we've seen in this
last week, Man, a lot of stuff we've been predicting
and a lot of the angles we've been taking on
Trump were the correct ones, and Stormy is like the
most vindicated guy I know because he's been talking about
the same couple of things for actually some of them
years now, and a lot of them were coming to pass.
Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1: So if you guys don't mind, Thomas, if you'd like
to start share your thoughts. I don't know what anything
you want to say on your trip to DC. I
think you were at the last inauguration if I remember correctly.
Speaker 5: No, I was there. Last time I was in DC
other than way over when I've been traveling was on
January sixth, twenty twenty one. So no shit, Yeah, I
mean I've been there since, but just hanging out at
Union States and what I wait to get on the
bus of the train or something. I uh, I had,
I had. I had a good I had a good trip, man.
I had a lot of fun. And Queen Thugshaker rode
with me out there, and she's a lot of fun.
Like uh so we had fun in the Amshrak but
we didn't raise any hell or anything. It's nice to
have a nice traveling rampy, but I they I thought
that Trump people went a little overboard and shutting down
the district. Like when I mean, I'm hip to the
fig he got shot and stuff, and I'm sure that
some of that came from a security detail, but like
like when we disembarked at Union Station, like there was
like police and like guardsmen everywhere, and it was a
bad look. It reminded me of four years ago, when
that's not something that should have been telegraphed. But it
was very positive energy overall. I've never in my lifetime,
and I've been to DC a lot, going back to
the nineteen eighties, I've never I've never i never felt
as much of a you know, kind of like a
high energy like celebratory atmosphere as I.
Speaker 2: Want to hear.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: It was very positive and uh you know, very There
was a ton of people who want like I mean
a huge number of people and like everybody pretty much
everybody in the Amtrak and everybody on the Greyhound on
the way back like that's why they'd gone there. And
uh so it was it was very good. And I
got to I got to I got to see the
Virginia o GC guys, and and just like a lot
of random people, like when we disembarked at the Union station,
like these like random guys recognizing me, you know. We
talked to them for a minute, and uh, that was
kind of cool. And I was going to crash this ball,
but I decided not to because they were shouting out
like dickheads stuff about like if you have a ticket,
don't come here. But then then then I found out
it and I found out that like Rabbi bread Mold
was there, and so it was that like Thurnovich faggot,
so like I probably would have said something stupid anyway
and gotten removed.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 5: It was. It was a lot of fun, man. And
I I think a lot of positive things are happening.
I mean not some of that just knows the the
natural resolution of some of these crisis modalities in the world,
especially the conflict paradigm and Ukraine in Gods, like these
things are reaching a natural conclusion even if even if
Trump hadn't been elected. But I, you know, I regardless
of regardless of how contrived political processes are in America
these days, for all practical purposes, has been no executive
the last four years. And that's this disaster is I
mean that's a disasterrous situation, you know. That's why. That's
one of the reasons why that's one of the reasons
why it's not defensible. Like the position of people who
hate Trump. It's like, okay, that's great, but you can't
not have an executive you know, or have like a
literal like white nigger piece of shit like fucking Biden
in the White House. Like that's not this this is
something that transits politics. Like it's like endorsing the Biden
administration is equivalent like endorsing drunk driving, Like it's not
something that rational people would do. But so actually that's over.
But yeah, so it was it was a great success. Man.
I was glad that I went. I uh, I was
a little bit banged up when I got back, which
is fine, that's just something that happens. But it was
like really really really cold here, Like when I got back,
it was it was like blow zero and stuff. So
the last few days have been kind of rough, but
but it was very good man.
Speaker 1: That's you think it's good man, awesome, you're and you're
you're seeing good stuff coming out of the Trump White House.
I mean, what do you think about I don't even
know where to start here, but you mentioned Gaza, the
ceasefire and everything. We were talking about net Yahoo before
we went on, before we started recording, and as of
right now, they're supposedly pulling out of Lebanon, but there's
suspicion that they may continue the war in Gaza, and
it may partially be due to net Nyahu's own personal position.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you think about that. That's well, yeah,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I mean ne Nya, who's been then you know, has
been grossly mismanaging this conflict from day one. I mean
in part it is because he doesn't know what he's doing,
but there's also perverse incentives for him, for him to
make bad decisions in strategic terms, because this conflict paradigm
was one of the things that was keeping him out
of penal jeopardy quite literally. To be clear too, like
IDF got their face broken in Lebanon by his Willebic
in two thousand and six and had a lot of
cap and despite some deployments suggesting that they were going
to assault like they haven't. They haven't properly assaulted or
they haven't tried to properly assault. Lebton during this current
conflict cycle. And they won't because they're gonna get because
they're gonna get smoked if they do. I think, uh,
I don't see what else idea can accomplish in God's
other than like continuing to kill a lot of people.
And that doesn't you know that. I realized that their
entire strategy from inception has been one of atrician but
that's not a real victory metric, and I don't I
don't think. I think at some point, I mean, it's real.
It's kind of it's real strange in the way that
their system is, like their prime minister actually has a
lot of authority. He's got more authority than most in
a parliamentary system. He can't like that Kansas be fired
by like a no confidence voter. It's equivalent, and that
would be that is the problem with somebody like Menbiah,
who is that he can It's it's basically impossible to
get rid of it. And it's like an act of
conflict cycle is underway. But I I think if you
tried to escalate again, I think you probably at some point.
I think if two will just at you, let the
level of general command, we'll just stop executing his orders.
I think maybe it's already starting to happen in a
defective way. I don't know. I don't have any great
insight into the internal situation on the Israeli side.
Speaker 2: Well, the question for the go ahead.
Speaker 5: Sorry, well no, it's all right. I uh, but there's
not there. There's not really anywhere to escalate too. I mean, yeah,
so I don't think so. I think it's basically run
its course, and well, we're all it was a mistake.
There was a bunch of like when Comeni and I
Ran was saying like, basically Gaza is won. You gotta
look at this long term. There's kinnch of simpletons on
the internet notes who were like, you know, the situation
on the ground just otherwise I think, But no, it
doesn't if you turn, if you turn a world opinion
one against you, and your entire your entire victory metric
is yeah, we killed a lot of people like that.
That's not on things work, you know, and the situation
is not going to go away. So yeah, I mean,
i'd argue that as is, they've got political agency, they've
never had four go ahead Of'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Well, and there's another dimension to it. Right, which is
Israel is given a Schmidtian exception. Right, they are allowed
to do things no other country is because of the
narrative of World War Two. And the argument basically runs,
because you know, this group of people have been historically
mistreated by you and your ancestors, you need to provide
them a nation. You know, you need to subsidize that.
You cannot criticize them. And the problem is right as
that you know, great event you know, haven'r mythologized it
is receives further and further into history, and the current
behavior of that nation gets worse and worse. Even within
the bounded rationality of that quote unquote deal, it starts
to become, you know, less and less morally clear. Right, Like,
if Israel operated like Switzerland, they could probably operate effectively
indefinitely because they wouldn't bother anyone. Right, It'd be like, okay, well,
we have to be nice to them because something mean happened.
Be like the Indian reservations, right where it's like, okay,
well we'll let you have casinos. But because you know,
the state of Israel seems absolutely incapable of just letting
something go, you know, they need to you know, be
doing this kind of like extremely gross you know, exterminist policy.
They are alienating whatever diminishing goodwill they had, And so
you have kind of two forces at once, one which
is the natural pr drain of Israel constantly bombing children,
blowing up hospitals, you know, doing the most kind of
horrific shit you can imagine. While also the fact is
that they're they're positive store of propaganda, right, the kind
of propa, the kind of propaganda that's completely brainwashed the
baby boomers. Well that's diminishing with each successive generation. And
so it's this push pull situation where you know, that
window of time where they can cash in that card,
well that's decreasing, and you know, any other goodwill is
fast you know, going out the door. And so you know,
even aside from any kind of like geopolitical reality, and
I'm not trying to minimize it, but let's just put
that aside. It's not a good situation.
Speaker 5: No, it's not. And they they've got they've got on
political capital anymore. What's also totally the point I was
making two and we're talking about ang about this in
d C with the kids who were staying with me,
in the hotel one night, you know, like Zionism has no
context anymore. It's a dead ideology, like nobody thinks that
way anymore. And even like such that such that the
Israeli right, that's momentum. It has nothing to do with Zionism,
you know, like we talked about before, it's it's the
people who it's the people who in regimes shorthand are
called the quote ultra orthodox, like those those are the
people who are kind of carrying the torch of Jewish
radicalism into the future. Like it's not identitarian radicalism. I mean,
like it's not like like Zionism is this is this,
it's this twentieth century an achronism that's like a pastiche
of dead kind of like European state socialism. This this
kind of materialist like secular like racialism, Like nobody nobody
thinks that way anymore, you know, so like it can't
perpetuate itself, and increasingly like the minority you kind of
Walmart shopping idiots who like think Israel is great in America.
Like I mean, first of all, these people are totally disengaged,
like they've never ever met a Jewish person, Like they don't.
They don't have any fucking idea about this world. But
but it's also you know, you can't you can't go
to bed for you can go to bed for Israel
when they're literally fighting the Soviet army, when the world
is regularly on the brank, you know, when even Nixon
is like, look like we've just got to kind of
like fold our nose and like support these people when
they're fighting more so packed I mean, that's one thing.
It's nothing to say, like, yeah, you've just got to
These people are capable of getting along with anybody else
on this planet. You just have to unconditionally support them
for like reasons I saw on TV, you know, forty
years ago. Like that doesn't that doesn't wash. And it
also whether people like it or not, it's not the issue.
Like world opinion doesn't matter these days. And there's a
there's one billion people in dar al Islam or in
the Islamic world for you know, I mean that that matters.
Like this, this outrageous people across this planet when Zion
is you know, uh, throw their weight around like this
and and and and murder people to make some kind
of points. You know, like this idea that that doesn't
matter or something is ridiculous. There's a huge percentage of
this planet that finds that outrage, and there's millions more
people who sympathize with them. That's that's my takedown in
a nutshell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't really understand. I mean, I think even
the boomers running APAC don't really understand. The political diad
has changed as much as the conflict diad. Right watching
all of these politicians, you know post you know, I
love Israel, whatever they do, you've all seen them. The
rate at which these guys are getting ratioed is is
really insane. I mean we're talking like maybe fifty likes,
hundreds of comments. And it's the thing about politics and
money is that money doesn't buy votes. Money buys ads.
And ads were really really powerful when everyone's only interface
with political reality was the television. That makes ads and
money the most powerful thing in the world. But Kamala
Harris had nearest makes no difference one and a half
billion dollars and Donald Trump had less than four hundred million.
So if money is everything in politics, then please explain
to me how that happened, because that should be impossible.
Money exactly, exactly and that's rapidly becoming even more extreme.
And for everybody that's like, you know, chimping out at
Donald Trump saying, oh, well, you know, he did this
piece deal that Israel's really upset about. Everybody that's on
that side of things is really upset about it. And
he managed to do it in a literally six hours.
But then everyone's upset because oh, he's well, he's he
canceled all foreign aid to every country except for Israel, Jordan,
and Egypt. And he's yeah, and he's going to continue
selling giving them two thousand pounds bombs. Well, that's okay,
because if I just forced a ceasefire on you, I
need that environment as in, like you and the neighbors
that you are currently at war with, I need that
to freeze or else the negotiations I just did aren't
going to stick. So if these guys are getting aid Egypt,
you know, Lebanon, I'm sorry, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel. We're
going to make sure nothing fucking changes until this peace
deal has a chance to settle and Yahu is forced
out of office. Because that's what Trump did with that
peace deal. That wasn't him wanting Israeli peace. That was
wanting to politically assassinate Benjamint and Yahoo because he fucking
promised him he would.
Speaker 2: So exactly, Yeah, we gotta flesh this out, No, just just.
Speaker 5: Real quick and and then I'll be quiet. Yeah, people
also understand, they can't. David Accords may have been like
a bad play like harder, but that is that is
why this is the foreign aid exception, and that is
why Egypt also like is on the slate. It's not like, oh,
the Jews intervened to keep getting paid, Like that's not
what happened. And like again maybe it's a bad policy,
but people don't understand, like why it's that way, Like
that's they can't David Accords.
Speaker 4: Basically the political realities of Egypt.
Speaker 5: No, no, exactly, and you will always get paid. Yeah,
the cost of peace. I can't. David was that Israel
and Egypt like always get paid. It was what like
there's there's a bribery aspect for all credible purposes. Okay,
because like Egypt was Israel's primary enemy and in Jews
strategic terms other than in military terms, other than Iraq,
like Egypt was Egypt for decades was like the like
the conventional uh power center of of Arab power and
in hard in terms of military affairs, and also the
center of uh like like the political center of of
of of of the Arab world is Egypt. Okay, so
the Camp david A courts, it was a diplomatic concord.
Egypt for a practical purpose is demobilized. I mean, they
still obviously have like a healthy military budget, but it's
very operationally, it's very much integrated into the United States.
That's why this Operation Bright Star every year, which is
a WIT which is a joint military exercise going back
to the late seventies early eighties. But it's actually it's
basically a diplomatic and political concord. That that's what I meant.
That's not it wasn't some stop gap issued like way
to keep paying the Jews and the Egyptians. That's what.
Speaker 4: Thomas's Further, Thomas's point, Egypt is a nation of correct
me if I'm wrong. Over one hundred million people, Yeah,
one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a huge country. And yeah, I'll be right
back and keep talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah. To Thomas's point, that country is really only one city, right,
Tokyo is not the most highest dense population in the world.
That is Cairo, all right. It has more people per
square inch than any other nation on the planet. And
these people subsist entirely on grain shipments from Russia, paid
for by US grant money. The government is effectively so corrupt.
Ceci has done nothing but destroy and embezzle every dollar
that's ever gotten shipped there, except for the bare minimum
he has to spend on food. The last time there
was a revolt in Egypt, they captured the government within
an hour and a half. Right, the apartment projects, the
slums are literally across the street, as in like literas.
We're talking twenty five feet away from all of the
government buildings. They may be unable to defend the government.
Speaker 1: It's got twenty two million people, nineteen thousand per square kilometer.
And this thing about bread. If you remember the Arab Spring, Jesus,
the Arab Spring kicked off for different reasons in different countries.
I just wanted to throw this out there because of
what Stormy said. The Arab Spring kicked off in Egypt
because of people killing each other in lines for the
free bread handouts.
Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent, And the rate at which the
government toppled just staggered. Really everybody involved because there is
no barrier between the government and very very hungry people. Right.
So as it is, right now, Egyptian army soldiers and
border patrol people are committing effectively suicide by cop with
border guards.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to interrupting you. Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 1: Border people need to keep in mind the border with
Gaza on the west side is with Egypt.
Speaker 2: It's very fucking important.
Speaker 4: But they're the border guards. The Egyptian border guards are
effectively because of the bribery system in CC's government, they're
effectively ordered to stand down while the entire Arab world,
like Thomas said, is basically crying out in anger and agony.
So the border guards are choosing to basically commit suicide
by cop because they're very religious people, unlike the secular Israelis.
And you can read some of their comments on that
they leave on you know, Twitter or you know, I
think now that they're big on TikTok as the big Anyways,
what iver it doesn't matter. These guys are basically saying, right,
I'm supposed to sit here and watch these people die,
but then when I die, God is going to judge
me and I'm going to go to hell. So I
can either accept my death now and go to heaven
and Margaret, or I can watch the genocide happen and
be damned to eternity. And this has happened like I
think fifteen times the last two months. Right, So the
entire Egyptian army, in the Egyptian populace is ready to
tear Israel apart. Right. It is the most population dense
place in the fucking Arab world and it's right next door.
If Trump messes up, and it would be a mess up,
it would undo the peace deal he just forced on
Metan Yahoo, which is the death of his political rival. Right,
this is smart politics. If he pulls Aid from Egypt,
Egypt collapses and Egypt rolls over like World War Ze
zombie apocalypse into Israel and pairs it to shreds within,
I would guess two days we wouldn't be able to
mobilize forces in theater fast enough to stop it.
Speaker 5: Well that's awesome, I mean, that's what it was the reason,
the reason that seventy three crisis happened. And obviously it
was a totally iman paradigm, but you know the idea
that uh in Thine seventy three, the when when IDEAF
surrounded Egyptian forces, the Soviet Union deployed nuclear weapons to
the port of Alexandria and they shift into a footing
a high alert, and Breshnets declared that if the IDEA
tries to move on Cairo, or if they try and
annihilate the Egyptian army, we are going to assault because
it's an active war against the Soviet Union and the
Socialist Community of Nations. Like basically Nixon averted World War
three quite literally by by standing down the Israelis, and
then what after about half a decade subsequent, Carter was
able to essentially buy off these Raelis and the Egyptians
did not ever allow this to happen again. So, I mean,
it's like it for better or words, it's like the
cornerstone of a strategic policy in the ear Greece that
it has nothing to do with like Donald Trump's it's
a sight and he wants to pay people. I mean,
so that's you know, it's interesting too, Like I I mean,
I believe that there's a burgeting that the Soviet or
the Russian Federation has flipped Yemen in the way that
the Soviet Union did, which is fascinating. There's also a
burgeting concuerd with Iraq, and there's also I believe Egyptian,
the Egyptians that now firmly rejoined Moscow and in terms
of the you know, in terms of their political allegiance.
So the Israelis aren't in a position to be demanding anything.
And unless the United States your point, is ready to
fight some general war on the ground against uh, the
entire Arab world, they they better keep paying Egypt. I mean,
it's the only thing. This, this, this is the only
finger in the proverbial damn and the real frontiers. So yeah,
And the main thing is people also misunderstand, like I
think having as a Trump, I mean, I I like
Trump as much as I can like any any political figure.
But even if Trump's a bad guy, that's not important.
Like the important thing is that Zionists can't continue to
hurt people, and that and that this uh, this terrorist
state of Ukraine is going down in flames, and that uh,
this this kind of hijacking of of of US policy
and the apps and like literally in the absence of
a president, the past four years is over with. That's
what's important, Like you've got to look at it that way.
You can't look at it like there's not some ideal
man in the Oval office. So I I want to
break bread with and go to ballgames with and talk
to about women and stuff.
Speaker 3: So not to be the eternal naysayer, right, But what
do you guys make of the reports that Trump has
gone back on Biden's decision to cut off the supply
of two thousand pounds bombs.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I force a
ceasefire on you and you're not allowed to shoot anything.
Who the fuck cares how many bombs I give you
that you can't use. If it make you feel safe,
if having that gun underneath your pillow makes you sleep, okay,
and shut the fuck up. But I unwind this piece
deal if you throw one, then whatever?
Speaker 5: What's also it's it's a non issue. It's kind of
like like, so we're gonna arbitra ely ban like certain
categories of weapons. I mean like that that's not is
reel's ability to drop bodies in theater. It doesn't come
down to like the poundage of bombs that it has.
I mean, I I mean, Israel wanted to really escalate
any way to be popping. I mean, don't get me wrong,
there's show no restrain whatsoever. I'm not saying that. But
if Israel decided that they were gonna they were gonna
escalate in some murderous way that they start popping off
chemical weapons, they wouldn't say, like, we we need you know,
we need to we need to increase like the throw
weight to these bombs, Like that doesn't mean anything. It's
that's the nature of politics, particularly like particularly power political
diplomacy is like let's find some like arbitrary sticking point
and then pretend we got some concession. Like so it's
like one thousand pound munitions are okay, but double that
is not because that's extra bad or something like that.
Speaker 4: It's people looking for a reason to blackpill.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: This is another thing is the two thousand pound bombs
are laser guided munitions. Right, they only interface with effectively
our command and control system. Right, everybody screams and cries
and just Peter feels as zion As Peter theiels a
Zionist because Palenteer is being used by Israel, so that
must mean that, you know, Donald Trump gave him two
thousand pound bombs. That means he loves Benjamin nettan Yahoo. Right.
The Israelis had their own targeting AI program, right, It's
called Lavender, and anybody can go check it out. Right, So,
in the beginning of the war, effectively this never before
used AI targeting system created by the super geniuses of
the of the Israeli Intelligence Unit eighty two hundred that
are so much better than everyone in the whole wide
world in computers, and their hackers are better than anyone.
And if you use a computer, it's basically owned by Israel. Yeah,
these super computer geniuses apparently don't know how to build
a fucking targeting system. And it was well, you saw
the carnage in the beginning of the war. It was
targeting people for virtually no reason every thirty seconds, and
the ideaf gleefully just green lit every single one, to
the point where in the beginning of the war, the
backlash from again the community of Nations that Thomas talks
about that is important, optics matter in diplomacy. It got
so bad that the Pentagon said, this is untenable. Either
we run targeting and you shut the fuck up, or
we're not going to like all of a sudden, our
transport planes are going to have a big problem. You know,
things are going to break down, and all of a
sudden things aren't going to get to you as quickly. Whatever.
The Pentagon has all types of ways to muck things
up outside of executive authority. So Pallenteer was forced on
the Israelis.
Speaker 5: Well it's also too I don't think people understand what
Gaza is, Like I mean, I'm talking. I don't mean
it's not some an elogiomatic state, but I mean, just
like an in tancticle terms, like what it is. It's
basically it's just massively overpopulated, like little sliver of dirt.
And basically basically the way IDF does things, they deploy
their grunts who basically they get their target. They declare
that you know, okay, this is this is the equivalent
like a strategic hamlet or that you know, as was
the case in nom if you need a metaphor or
an analogy, and they practice like walking fire, they basically
treat it like a free fire zone. And then like
when they take then then then when people throw shots
at them, like basically they call in like a massive
artillery strike or they call in air support and they
waste everything, you know, with with their fuel weapons or whatever.
And then they and then they do their walk and
fire and basically like target everything in in the area,
like that's what's going on. Like it's not, it's not.
It's not like Okay, on this side, here's the IDEF
and here's Hamas and and oh but these Raelis are
doing all this bad stuff behind the lines with like
super powerful bar arms, Like that's not what's happening. Like
what they're doing is basically it would be like the
British Army you had assaulted the falls in like nineteen
seventy and like gone noughts and said like okay everybody
who was cat like as an op like kill everybody,
and then like when some sniper like thro shas at
them like they would draw, and then they call in
like massive artillery and her support and like flat and everything,
like that's what they're doing. Just for context, well, the question.
Speaker 6: One of the things that came across One of the
things that came across the Ticker today that I think
is interesting is Natanyahu's press office announced they were going
to allow Godza residents to return to the North Monday morning,
and you know, my immediate thought was, Okay, either we
have a cease fire or I mean, there's no telling
what they want, what they're going to do. Yeah, I've
heard people say they're going to stop in Gaza. They're
pulling out of Lebanon and they're going to concentrate on
the West Bank. They're just going to go in and
they're going to cleanse the West Bank. That that's the
next thing they're going to do. This thing with Gaza.
You know that the North is pretty destroyed. I mean,
I don't even know that they're not inviting them back
in to start this all over again, to just you know,
start killing again. And when you look at the way
they've reacted, there is no there's no rhyme or reason
for what they're what they do and why or why
they do it. It just seems Yaho gets a wild
hair up issass and oh, okay, we're going to let
them back in. Oh we're going to stop. You know,
an attack happens, a rocket gets fired over and now
we just moved back in and we just start killing,
killing again. We started the strowing again. And you know
something that Stormy I was driving yesterday and stop to
get gas and Stormy hits me up and goes. You
have to listen to like the first eight minutes of
the next of the New Tucker episode with Kurt Mills,
and I just got caught up listening to the whole thing,
and it was right. They recorded this as an emergency podcast,
like an hour or two after Hegseeth got got put
in there and got confirmed. And what I remember from
when he was at Fox, when Tucker was at Fox,
Trump would say something he was going to do something
really fucking stupid during the day, and Tucker would go
on at night and be like, this is why it's
fucking stupid and he shouldn't be doing it, and then
all of a sudden, Trump next morning I'd be like, hey,
you know we're not going to do that everything. And
when you listen to this whole thing. I've listened to
this whole hour and a half twice and I've taken
notes on it. It looked like it was a message
to Donald Trump that heg Seth has surrounded himself, hired
people around him to man the Pentagon who are not
anti Israel but basically want to cut off any in
any way stop supporting what they're doing as far as
getting us into wars, as far as just sullying our
name around the world, as being the weapons dealer to
this regime of death.
Speaker 5: What's also, yeah, I'm sure that's true. It's also it's
not a traditional military quag marier. I think people don't
understand that well. They think it's this propaganda from secular
humanists and liberals or something. When when when people point
this out, But you know, it's not like I mean,
I mean, don't get me wrong, Like like I said before,
I went why like Thamas caught idea for his pants
down and they really embarrassed them, So there was gonna
be some kind of conventional response at scale. But you know, Gaza.
The reason why the Israeli disengaged in Gaza like years back,
like in two thousand and four, two thousand and five,
thousand and six, like there's nothing there, Like the only
what the all these Raelis are doing is they're in
this ross and Kreeg. They're outnumbered literally by a billion people.
Their whole notion is we're gonna drop bodies and we're
gonna thin out this population that causes us problems, and
there's not an exit strategy, and it's not part of
some grand strategic design to like make Israel safer in
terms of it's in terms of like where the main
line of resistance is or something. Is literally what I said,
it's like, these people are our racial enemies. We're gonna
kill as many of them as possible because we're under threat,
and just by them existing as a threat to us,
it's really really paranoid and really primitive, and it's not
well thought out at all. And part of it too, is,
like I said, just like the randman at Kiev. You know,
Ya himself is an a differous little subhuman and he's
he's trying to keep his ass out of a sling,
you know, because you can't remove his sitting executive at
war and force him to answer charges and everything else aside.
And then Yah, who's just like a cheap gangster, you know,
and he's he's his days are numbered in the free world.
So the longer he keeps, the longer he keeps this
war going, like the longer he gets to stay out
in jail.
Speaker 4: I predict that there will be a political change in
the office of the Prime Minister within the next forty
five days. Heavily. And I I'll circle up with some
of you privately about why I think that, because it's
a little too early for me to.
Speaker 5: It's probably that's probably true. I was saying, just resigned. Yeah,
I was saying, and eh, Barack, he's he's Barack's one
of the only Israelis I pay attention to because he's
a serious guy. And I think he's as much as
somebody that persuasion can be. I think, yeah, I think
it's a pretty decent guy. But I he's been saying
that for the last couple of years, like when this
like things are gonna change when this war ends, and
that's one of the reasons this Perverson sent is for
the for the civilian command and control authorities to keep
it going. And no, Israel's got a real problem, and uh,
they're gonna that this this kind of carte blanche to
do whatever they want. Like that, that's all. That's all
over with that the past four years changed everything. And
the degree to which, like the degree to which to
like this kind of this kind of dummy regime represented
by Biden and and that whole cadre like that that
that that's over with, Like that's like literally everyone on
this planet is contempt for that ship, other than like
a handful of senile old people who.
Speaker 2: Who, yeah, they have no idea what really.
Speaker 5: No, they're totally senile, and this idea of is is real.
Waging race war on people is fine. You know, Shoveling
money at this terror state in Ukraine is fine as
long as we you know, as long as we kind
of sit around and talk about how Donald Trump is
playing against us, like nobody respects that bullshit. That's broke
as fuck.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you guys a question. Man, on
what pretense can they even continue the war? And guys
after the ceasefire, I mean, it's it's over. What I think, that's.
Speaker 5: What they're gonna say if they want to, They're they're
gonna say that they're still in the threat or they're
gonna say that. And the place to watch really is
going like I'm always made. I don't want to hide
the conversation. But you know, people, people misunderstand what happened
in Syria. They misunderstood it when it was going on.
And I'm not I'm not stroking myself, but I'm one
of the only people who actually predicted what was happening
as opposed to people like Pepe Escobar who totally got
it wrong. But one of the reasons why, like the
Turks and the Israeli is going to table with the
Russians to essentially divide up Syria is because that way
the Israelis get to occupy Golan, and the regime this
like Salathi regime in Syria. They've been issuing these like
ominous statements that they're there quote not going to let
Israel occupy Golan. I mean, the degree to which they
can mount operations to preclude them from occupying it remains
to be seen. But if I think they're going to
do something, and when they do something, if Netanyaho still survives,
he's gonna claim like, oh, this is Hamas, which is
his blah, which is, you know, all of our enemies
are colluding together, you know, in Golan, and if our
forces come under fire and go and we're gonna Retali
eat against Gaza. So that's how it would play out
if they want to. But I don't think that's in
the cards. And I you know, Hamas actually quoted itself
pretty well, and I think they can fight in definitely,
you know, they agree with I don't think. I don't
think Agrile really wants to keep on fucking with it.
But we'll see. But that's how it would play out
in terms of what pretext I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm assuming Stormy's prediction that Nenya who's gone
in forty five days, means he thinks the war is over.
Speaker 2: That they're not gonna keep I.
Speaker 5: Mean, probably proud of a purpose as it is, but
you know, if they if they need a pretext to assault,
that's what it's gonna be. And they're gonna claim what
they've always claimed, like anytime, any if, like ifna who's
corn flakes are soggy? He claims Hamas is doing it,
but that also Iran is supporting Hamas and making his
corn flakes soggy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this time, uh, the head of the idea
who was the only willing which is generally very divided.
To Thomas's point, I think the situation that Thomas described
as a possibility of Benjaminette Yahoo ordering the men into
the field again and they just don't listen because now
the head of the IDEF is about to be appointed
by a very very very hostile Kannesset.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people forget too that Israel. Israel is actually kind
of a shit hole, like just living there kind of sucks,
and no exactly, and they've also they've got a general
military draft, and I mean there's a lot of young
guys who find, you know, find themselves drafted and sent
into gaza in in some fucked up role when they
didn't even want to be in the military in the
first place. Like that does change things, Like it's not
Israel's not just like running around with like the Jewish
verson of Blackwater doing this stuff. A lot of them
guys are just like dudes who got grabbed and drafted
and like shoved. Yeah, I got who got shoved into
this like messed up like highly racial eize situation. Like
it's not that they can't just do whatever they want
the command level without some without some sort of Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only people backing that in Yahoo have their own
paramilitary faction, right, the ultra Orthodox, whichever you consider, right,
they are armed operated militia. Right. This nefarious bit of
stuff that happened with the Palestinian prisoners and the rape,
the reason that those guards and really the prison itself
were freed, right because basically this ultra Orthodox militia surrounded
the prison and basically threatened the lives of all the
prison guards. These are Israeli ultra Orthodox surrounding an Israeli
prison right demanding the release of an Israeli prisoner, and
the guards were forced to do it and nothing happened.
Like imagine if this were to play out in the
United States, US and all of our guys, I don't know,
surround folsome or rikers with small arms telling everybody that
we're gonna shoot or in any guard that comes out
of the door, and we'll stay here as long as
possible until the prisoner that we want inside is released.
Could you imagine such a thing ever happening? How they deteriorated?
Would our government have to be to allow it? Like
this is the political situation on the ground in Israel
four months ago, it's only gotten worse. Like this is insane,
It's totally nuts.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's the whole you know, like we were
talking about at the top of yea.
Speaker 4: Oh, and they don't fight in the army.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's a really weird paradigm. I mean, there's
there's a bunch of those guys. The quote ultra Orthodox,
like hear it like literally they're like they live like right,
b they're really really weird and they're not they're not
they're not an admirable people, but they but they're very
very different than these kinds of like secular Zionists who
are who who have basically been kind of like left
behind by history. Like those guys the future of the
of the Israeli right, Like, they're not like like Zionism
is that nobody believes in that bullshit anymore.
Speaker 4: So the guys demanding that fight and continue the war
are also the guys that don't want to or the
guys that refuse to fight in it. How long do
you think that's stable?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, and what's also too, I mean the entire
paradigm is like there's they're not uh like like a
lot of the ultra Orthodox, like they've they'veview zigned. They
like like they're anti Zionists, like not not for like
humanitarian reasons or something, but they view it as like
offensive to God, and they view like they view Jewish
culture in Israel as being like decadent and they you know,
having abandoned the Torah and stuff like it's not like
there's an Israel reigns viable going forward, it's gonna be
this kind of weird theocracy represented by like a vanguard
of of of those guys, like this idea of like,
you know, this kind of secularist Oh, we're part of
this like special race of the Jewish people, you know,
and we're gonna pretend that, you know, we're European socialists
in nineteen fifty. Like, that's that's dead, that's over with.
Speaker 4: So therefore you're saying de facto Israel is dead because
the only reason Israel's been able to sustain the support
racket is because of their very careful and curated We're
just like you Europeans. We're just like you Americans. We
just live in the Middle East. And oh yeah, means
you have to like these Orthodox are alien, Yeah, as
well be from fucking Mars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a big part of it. Yeah, the
mask is dropping. Well, it's also too, like the you know,
world opinion one of the things too that's kind of
changed things, especially with younger people. And I'm always making
the point, I mean, I like younger people for all
kinds of reasons, but also they've got better sense than
than a lot of generational and coderie, you know, for
decades during the Cold War and subsequent they tried to
present they try to present Palestine like it's these crazy
like it's like these crazy it's it's like these I
mean data, I saw the reference, but it's like these
crazy colored people like Stokely Carmichael or something who want
to burn everything down. But then like you see Pelatans
and TV like it basically like they're like normal people
who dress like Westerners, who like don't look any different
than like Greek or Sicilian people like that, you know,
but then like cut to, like cut to like these
these Jewish people who are like these crazy guys like
swinging chickens around and saying they want to kill everybody.
It's like, well, gee, you know, something here doesn't add up,
you know, So yeah, it's an optics problem. But also
I like I'm always saying, and I'll be quiet, I'm
gonna be the only way to understand kind of the
concord politically, what like I was was able to kind
of lock in this this this unconditional support. I mean,
obviously it owes to like the mythology and trying to
Nuremberg of of like Alocaust theology stuff. But it's also
the Cold War, like the Soviet Union literally was at
war with Israel for decades. So the Soviet Union, the
East Germans, the Czechs you know, are on the ground
in the Middle East like fighting these rayles, you know,
and people you know are sitting around singularly terrified of
the Soviet Union. You can make the case for Israel
hell of a lot easier than you can in twenty
twenty five. You know that that can't be overstated in
my opinion, do.
Speaker 1: You think the general public sees any connection between Israel
and Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do, or at least they're idiots.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're idiots, But it doesn't matter what they think.
Like they these people, these people always think Donald these
people always think Donald Trump is like implanting ideas in
their TV to to make them gay or something like.
They they're they're they're they're idiots. It doesn't matter what
they think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, worrying about what worrying about what the population at
large believes is these are people who were waiting to
be waiting around to be told what to do and
what to believe. So I mean an article to President
could tell them what to believe and they'd believe him,
and Trump could do this right now. The one of
the one of the worst takes I saw on Twitter
was after he pardoned all the January sixth people, someone said, oh,
he should leave him in there, It'd been better off
if they got left in there, because that radicalize people more.
And I'm like, who the fuck is that going to radicalize?
Speaker 5: To sit in prison and tell me he likes it, Like.
Speaker 6: Some people would say he is in Some people would
say he is in his own prison of his own
making right now. But you know, it's like he's like,
you know, Hitler got Hitler was right. I'm sorry. I
thought Hitler went into prison, and when he came out,
he's like, I gotta do this legitimately and get elected,
not like I gotta get I'm gonna come out and
burn everything to the fucking ground.
Speaker 5: It's like a returtle. It's a returtle take anyway, because
even if you are like some hard line if you're
like some hard line partisan, your whole notion would be
that you're a vanguards. It's not that I'm gonna get
Walmart shoppers to get radical qute unquote radicalized and really mad,
and I'm gonna lead, like I'm gonna I'm gonna lead
this army of like the stupid and the broken to
like burn down this regime. I don't like, like the
fuck thinks that way. Like nobody.
Speaker 1: I think there's a small contingent of people who do
fucking thinke that way, Like.
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of retards that have this idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean they're not they're not they're not
in the game, and like they're not good guys. Yeah,
there's the same guys who like it's a crime that
they were like taught to read because like they don't
they don't understand the way things work.
Speaker 4: And like I'm they're less than libertarians. They're trying to
convince fifty.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, and it's all so it's also not even
I swear to like some of these guys they don't
even understand why. They don't even understand while like xign
is is problematic, like in their mind, they're just like
these dumb fucking hicks and like like to them like
Jews is some like stand in for bad guys or
something like they don't like it doesn't actually compute, like
I'm convinced of that. You know, this is why this
I'm always saying, like I don't, I don't know how
we need delusions. These people are like politically editable and
like generally like I just like I just tune out
when like nine to nine percent of people like start
talking about what they think is politics because they're fucking literates.
I'd be like listening to some hobo and the CTA
tell me about his like theory of astrophysics. I gotta
dip out a mini. I don't feel good, So forgive
me for like being a lame and like ending the
party early, but.
Speaker 4: Real quick before we jump.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 4: What do you think? How do you think the how
do you think this plays out? Do you think? I mean,
it's just just i'd like to hear just like broad strokes.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's what I've been saying for months. I
there's not I mean, it's all Ukraine thing with it
has been a joke from Jump. I mean it's not
it's not funny because huge amounts of people are dying
and then there's this grotesque little sub human in Kia
who's who's profiting from the deaths of of thousands of people.
But like this, this idea that there was ever some
victory condition that could be realized by Ukraine is preposterous.
The only, the only person, the only raison tetri the
Ukraine War has been America under the fiction of NATO
deploying at decapitation range. That's the only raison detro This
idea that Russia copies Ukraine for no reason is ridiculous,
or this reason that there's like independent causal variables leading
to the war is ridiculous, And as is this claim
that somehow, somehow the Ukrainian armed forces were going to
defeat the Russian army in the field, then assault Russia,
then occupy in Moscow, then prevent Russia from reconstituting to
threaten a newly sovereign Ukraine, which presumably also in this
counterfectual like occupies and controls the don Dass and and
probably Russian territory within visual range of Cursk. Like that,
that's that's that's literally delusional. So the only purpose of
this military operation has been to kill Russians and to
try and punish Russia for the herd it laid on
America and Israel and its terrorist allies in Syria years
ago and to try and force concessions by you know,
hitting Russia where it hurts metaphorically speaking. So this this had,
this conflict cycle had an expiration date. Anyway. There's not
the political will, there's not the material resources, there's not
the manpower for this criminal mafia, and you to pretend
to continue that they're waging this war against Russia that
has some sort of realizable victory metric in mind. So
that's coming to a natural end. Also, I mean, the
Russian position has always been this war will end as
soon as you stop attacking us and deploying it to
capitation range. That's always been Moscow's perspective. That's the rational perspective.
And you know, nobody in Washington has talked to the
Russians and years, incredible as that might seem, so the
Russians have been beyond eager to talk to anybody in
Washington because you know, like I said, for all practical purposes,
Americas have been headless for four years, which is incredible
when you consider the kinds of commitments in war and
peace terms that have been underway. It's literally incredible, it's surreal.
But that's where we're at. So yeah, as soon as
it was without saying that, as soon as there was
an actual president in the White House, the war would end.
Because it's it's it's it's based on a preposterous fiction.
Speaker 4: And Europe, though, is trying to continue this, the Europeans
into it. It's it's wild to me.
Speaker 5: They're they're there, they're the Europeans are literally senile, you know,
like it's not they're not gas let the rest of
this planet. They're like they're literally senile, like like these
fagots are still going around claiming like America didn't really
assault German infrastructure, it was the Russians that blew up
their own their own pipeline. Like you you can't make
this up. Like nobody listens to these fucking people, like
they're a joke. You know, if and even if they
weren't a joke, they there's no that they have. They
have no ability to project power, you know, they had
they have no credible military records, you know they have,
they have no say in anything. They're just they're just
like they're just like these yapping shouahuas and these like
senile capos you know who nobody listens to. You know,
they they and they pissed away whatever credibility they had,
you know about sharing on this this entire serrade take.
Speaker 4: I have it on good authority, and I kind of
wish it wasn't true, but it's from someone I trust
very much that I'd love to get your take on this.
But it seems that Britain and France are trying to
get out in front of Pugan and Trump coming to
some type of arrangement, which is why I think mister Trump,
President Trump is so eager to get in front of
Vladimir Putin as quickly as he seems to be.
Speaker 5: But I mean maybe that's true in French.
Speaker 4: Battalion fighting the Russians right now in combat.
Speaker 5: Nobody in Russia, but nobody takes these people seriously like
people people take here, Starmer seriously, get the fuck out here.
Speaker 4: Nobody. Italian is a large force though.
Speaker 5: Okay, but I mean the Russians have been at war
for years.
Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna get chewed up. They're gonna get
chewed up. But yeah, but I don't scream like, oh
my god, Russia killed you know, a battalion of our troops.
This is a tragedy. We have to invoke Article five.
Speaker 5: Okay, let them, let them, let let it, let them
say that. I mean the so France is going to deploy,
France is going to deploy to the Ukrainian battle space.
Then they're gonna assault rush in tank columns with chemical weapons.
Then they're gonna move on Moscow. Then they're going to
extract contention concessions from Putin. Like there is no chance
of that happening. So they're they're literally just they're literally
just talking ship. They're talking literally ship.
Speaker 4: Yes, So what I think my theory is that this
is well. So let's say Europe had a sovereign debt
default tomorrow. The leaders would end up hanging from limbs
unless they're at war. Yeah, I don't Baggatry was just
marketing pr spin for austerity because the leadership knew that
this is in the cards. We're watching it happen now,
and I think the French and British leadership are so
terrified of the debt unwinding and them not having someone
to blame it on or not have. I guess the
ability as a government would if it were to be
at war, to clamp down on civil and civil unrest.
Speaker 5: All I can say is this. NATO doesn't exist unless
or until whoever the consular is. The Buons Republic can
issue an order for all military age able body males
to mobilize. That order will be executed, and then a
half a million strong force will assault Russian tank columns
in the battle space if necessary, with nuclear and chemical weapons,
and they will continue to fight until unless they're until
those forces reach Moscow, prevent the the Russian Federation reconstituting
and then literally force concessions at gunpoint. Unless that's possible,
NATO doesn't exist. France can say whatever they want. Keir
Starmer can lisp about whatever he wants. You know, that's
like it's literal shit, you know, like let them that
the British they're going to deploy half a million strong
to the battlespace and fight the Russian army, like, I
mean there's a million. Yeah, there's no chance of that happening.
As they're talking literal garbage, you know. I mean, they
can they can say whatever they want. They can claim
they're gonna devote Article five, Okay, go fight a nuclear
war with Russia and Central Europe like, oh oh, that's
not gonna happen. Okay, I guess you're just talking shit.
Then well, this is this.
Speaker 3: Actually speaks to a very interesting development, right that it
seems like Trump has pulled roughly twenty to thirty thousand
servicemen out of Europe.
Speaker 4: Uh really, when does this happen today? I was.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I saw this on Twitter. It
might be fake, but let's assume it's real right here, right,
it does speak to an interesting refocus of the American empire,
right and effectively, like the world police game is, if
not over, it's shifting focus. Right, we are no longer
a glory exactly, which is something stormy that you may
have mentioned once or twice before.
Speaker 4: And only all the time for the last two years.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: Also, these guys that these guys that mister Trump deployed
the to the southern border, they got to come from somewhere.
And I realize a lot of those guys the Marines,
the Marines aren't really in Europe. But I but you know,
the force isn't being this isn't nineteen eighty five. Like,
these guys got to come from somewhere. I mean, they've
got to be pulled off some meaningless deployment and we're
to actually you know, be to plug these gaps in
the South. I mean, unless it's I have no idea
like how many forces Trump is throwing down there, but
I assume it's more than just like a token gesture,
or assuming it is, I mean they I I I'd
assume that those guys are are are coming from somewhere,
and that would that would tend to indicate that, you know,
he's he's making decisions about where to prioritize those those
force levels. But uh, but yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
raise up.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I don't feel well, like I'm sorry for being on
but yeah, now you're welcome, man, Like I'm still kind
of sleepy from the road and stuff. But we should
reconvene and do this again, like sometime this week or
next weekend.
Speaker 2: Absolutely do it.
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, all right, fellas, I'll be in touch.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go to bed, but yeah, I'll
hit you guys up.
Speaker 1: The next couple of days, Trump for sure is announced
with drawing twenty thousand troops from Europe. And this goes
back to a so thing about like how our NATO
allies have left us in the lurch and they expect
us to pay for everything and man everything and basically
have us be completely responsible for NATO and that they
need to step up.
Speaker 4: And are actively trying to get NATO into a war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they who's they?
Speaker 4: You know who they is?
Speaker 1: Rogue fucking gangster billionaires. But uh, Stormy, this speaks to
what we've been talking about, the pivot to South America,
the Monroe Doctors.
Speaker 4: Is this the storm he was right about everything episode?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: I think that this is the Yeah, this is that
second of the show, Pete. I'm glad Pete brought up
Kurt Mills on Tucker That is like the fucking best
Tucker episode I ever heard, and I also have a
page of notes from it, and he says explicitly in
the episode, me and Stormy already talked about this.
Speaker 2: I think maybe it was on this show with you guys.
Speaker 1: I can't remember now, but somewhere we talked about the
pivot to South America. That's why Marco Rubio is the
Secretary of State. And what Kurt Mills said on Tucker
was you can't secure the border if you're in war
with Middle East.
Speaker 2: And to Pete's point, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say to Pete's point about Trump,
I mean he directly fucking called out Barry Weiss, like sorry,
Barry Weiss, like you can't get us into another war.
It's not gonna happen this time, like your your days
are numbered.
Speaker 4: Well, so Pete was the one that clued me into Rubio. Yeah,
well the Rubio thing is sent to Panama today.
Speaker 6: No, did he Yep, he's in Central He's He's gonna
mean a Central American, a South American or.
Speaker 1: Well that's it, man. This is the only fucking show.
We're the only the only right wings show that isn't
either like rabid pro zionists Jews.
Speaker 6: Or crime or crying about the Jews. I mean exactly,
here's the worst thing. I said this on my last
dream today. The worst thing you can do is give
somebody who really is not educated on how the post
war consensus works, and and you give them the JQ
and have them wake up to the JQ. It's go
on Twitter. There's a certain group of people who just
run around juju ju ju Juju. Everyone's Jew. You disagree
with me, you're a ju juju? Okay, what are you doing?
Who are you recruiting? Is this are you building a vanguard?
I mean they think they are.
Speaker 4: How can you do? There's them? January sixth.
Speaker 3: So that so, Pete, there's there's something to this, right.
Uh So I made a post right which basically said,
you know something along the lines of like Trump has
done more for us in the past two weeks, then
the conservative movement has in my entire life, let alone.
That's brilliant any of your lives. Right, And so we
owe him some loyalty, right, and you know, generally well received,
but there's a lot of chimping right, saying things like
what you were saying, Pete. And to me, right, if
we have any amount of political realism, it comes down
to the idea that politics is in exchange.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I give you things you want and in exchange, you
give me your loyalty. And to be honest, that exchange
is why people like Trump, right, because Trump actually does
the thing that they want. So we recognize that, as
you know, hard nosed, big brain political realists, until it's
time to pay up your part of the deal, right,
because look, he did what he said, so fair enough, right.
And when I say loyal I don't mean the kind
of like blind loyalty that you see and like the
actual MAGA movement, right, like the doubt. But also, I
don't know, man, this guy did like I don't know
nine out of the ten things, I like would have
written down if you said, hey, what are the ten
things you would do to make America better tomorrow? So like,
I don't know, man, Like that's worth noting. That doesn't
mean he saves the West. That doesn't mean he is
you know, the guy the Caesar whatever. But like, look
like we were in a very bad situation. Yeah, now
we're in a better situation. It has gotten better. And
the idea you were talking about this Pete earlier that
a certain individual who remained unnamed talked about, which is,
you know, the idea that it would be better for us,
it's the Jan six protesters. But still there drive radicalization.
Well this is a complete fallacy, right, And the example
to this is one actually that endeavor, right the Canadian
video says brings up all the time, which is he's like,
look look at South Africa. Look how much worse South
Africa is than anywhere in the West. They still have
shit lips, they still have white progressives there. They have
not been radicalized very clearly right. They are living in
the consequences of their actions, and they still believe it
just as much. So that doesn't work. And then as
far as the masses go, they don't give a fuck
like people who don't care about politics barely even remember
January sixth happened. And the idea that any time you win,
you actually lose is so deeply embedded in all forms
of right wing politics. And we can point it out
in the normal conservatives right who complain about, you know,
Trump's executive orders not being constitutionally correct. We can point
it out in them, But when it's one of our
guys or one of the guys adjacent to us, you
don't see the exact same mechanism that cripples the right
in America just completely.
Speaker 1: Well, do you guys think you can answer this, because
I mean I don't. There's a tough question to answer.
Why do you think these guys are addicted to losing?
I mean, why do you think they spin every victory
into a defeat and why is that their anger?
Speaker 6: Well, because I can say this, Jay mentioned it. Trump
will give you ten. Trump will give you nine out
of the ten things you want the tenth things, So
many of these people want is for the United States
to be one ten. So if Trump doesn't make the
United States one ten country number one hundred and ten,
then it's all a loss, okay, you know. And yeah,
and something that, something that Thomas talks about is the
fact that the post war consensus, the way this country,
the way the government is structured, the way the way
everything is structured, until that you could watch it away.
Trump is dismantling things, and he's not doing it for
this purpose. But what the point Thomas tries to make
is the reason why they can have so much power
in so many places is because of the way this
is structured. What you break the structure and they just
become another They just become another group vying for influence,
but struggling for influence. Right now, they're at the top.
They're at the top because they built this structure. This
structure comes down, they're back on the They're back on
the ground floor again. And you can see this in Russia.
I don't care how many of our fucking retard spurgs
post pictures of Putin meeting with Putin meeting with Jews,
Putin doing this, doing that, and everything Jews do not
run him. Anyone who tells you that jew like, oh,
they control Russia. It's like literally, the fucking gun that
Russia created is the one that the enemies of Jewelry uses. Okay,
let me, what the fuck are you talking about? What
the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 4: And you just can't.
Speaker 6: They found the enemy, the one enemy, and they're literally
bigger Zionists than Ben Gevere and any of these guys are.
Because they think that, they're like, oh, you can't beat
them unless you oh, you can never have control. And
then you point out Russia and they go and they go, oh, no,
well look he's meeting with these rabbis here. Yeah, if
you had a country and you ran it like a
fucking you ran it like a king, you can meet
with these people who have undue influence in other countries
that don't have that. You're not going to give them
undue influence in your country. It just these people, that's
why they're so addicted to losing, because they they've created,
they've created this gigantic like the reverse of a gollum,
that is like they look at the at Jews as
a reverse of a problem, like these super mentions that
they until we beat them. It's like, well, how do
you beat them? Well, you have to kick them out
of your country. What.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's actually similar to the recent drama with
the whole Panda Express situation. Right, So, for any of
the viewers who aren't familiar with like the genuine retarded
depths of online Twitter drama, basically what happened is that
Chris Rufo was saying, you know, you shouldn't be complaining
about the economy because I'll have you know, you can
get a job as a Panda Express manager and make
seventy K a year. Right, The implication basically being, you know,
stop complaining about H one B visas or immigration. There's
still money to be made. Giant uproar kicked up. One
of the interesting things in that, right, not going into
any specificsh is that it sort of does display an
actual flaw with the right wing and actually just people
in general. They have a very hard time holding two
ideas intention right. In the case of Panda Express, two
things can be true at once, right, both the economy
is rigged against you and you in your situation have
personal uh, you you have you know, a range of
decisions you can make. You know, you have a certain
amount of you know, personal accountability. So similarly, right, you
can recognize that, you know, the country of Israel has
undue influence due to a number of reasons. Right, everyone
would agree with that. But that doesn't mean, like Pete
said that these are like impossible super beings. You know,
there are other special interest groups who have fallen out
of favor. Right, Big tobacco does not have the same
amount of leverage they used to have. Right, Cotton farmers
don't have the kind of leverage they used to have.
Like this, this happens all the time, and in the
same way that businesses rise and fall, special interest groups
rise and fall. This is a problem that can be
solved now. Admittedly this particular special interest group is very
very deep in there, but the idea that is baked
in that that will always be the case. It's the
same thing that people always said about James Burnham, right,
that what James Burnham did is identify what's currently happening
and said that will be the case forever. Where it's like,
look like in the grand scheme of things, how long
has this special interest group been at the foe like
of American politics? I mean hardcore I mean, what seventy years, right,
eighty years and we can get really fine about it,
but like, you know, there's still people live who remember
the pre existing time, Like this isn't the default state
of being. And I don't mean to minimize the amount
of control they have, but like there's still people you know,
this is still a solvable problem. And the idea that
until that happens, nothing can be done to make your
life in any way better is exactly the same thing
as the insult sitting at home saying until we go
back to handmade style patriarchy, I won't talk to a girl.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, you're just giving yourself an excuse for
never get anything fucking done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a self perpetuating spiral into you know, negativity
and the other thing to your point, Jay, what you're
saying about, like the waning influence of a certain lobby group.
In this particular case, we're talking about Israel, but it
could be it could be anything. Is who the president
is surrounded by and Trump. You know, you could say
what you want about hag Seth and Rubio and who's
the other guy, Huckabee.
Speaker 2: We talked about them at length on the show. They're
nothing compared to Blincoln and Newlan and fucking Dick Cheney Rumsfeld.
I mean, it's a totally different group of people. They're
totally different generation, and they're not as they're not as entrenched,
and they're not as die hard either, and they came
up under totally different circumstances.
Speaker 1: And Kurt Mills talks about this on Tucker. I've never
heard of Curt Mills before. I don't know if you
guys are familiar with his work, but he's great. He
talks about this, he says, you know, I think one
of you people you might have said this earlier on
this show, that he's not surrounded by the same type
of people.
Speaker 2: And he's also not in anyone's pocket. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Biden was in Kolemoyski's pocket, Victoria Neulan was in his pocket.
Blincoln had very close ties with them. No one here
has any of that. If anything, it's on the other side.
It's on the pro Russian side of Ukraine that people
Trump's people are aligned with.
Speaker 6: Well, one of the points that I like that they
made was about Steve Whitkoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jewish real estate New York guy, and he's like, well,
Trump just asked him to go to Israel and said,
didn't ask him, told them to go to Israel and
said get a piece steel done. You just have to
do what you have to do. Whit Cough is not
anti Israel. Whit Coff's a Jew, he's not anti Israel.
I don't know that he's a quote unquote Zionist or
but he went there. He told them that you're going
to do this, You're going to do this, and one
day yeah, and I mean there's a legend out there
that he went there on Shabbat and made them like, yeah,
you know, you're still going to meet with me and everything.
I don't know that that's true or anything like that,
but the he went there and he got it done.
And he didn't go there like Anthony Blincoln and go
I'm here as a Jew as far as I know,
And Anthony Blincoln went there to help them do whatever
they can, and whitkof went there and said stop, just stop.
And I don't know Netanya who's motivations for saying that
that Palestinians can go back into North Gaza. They could
be completely nefarious, but it went there and let him know.
Didn't go there and bend the knee to him. But
and there. But there are still people who are going
to listen to this and be like, well, you don't
know that, you don't this is all adopt it's all,
this is all, this is all being orchestrated behind the scenes,
this is all Jewish. Everything is like and I've heard
Witkoff is going to go to is going to do
the Iran They're going to send him to Iran to
negotiate this. You know. Well, I think one of the
great things that Mills said in that was Trump needs
to get rid of the JCPOA, which is basically the
Obama peace Deal and do the Trump peace Deal. It's
the beauty of the beauty of that podcast that he
did with this guy Kurt Mills, who I had never
heard of before, is apparently he is with the editor
for The American Conservative, which would make you think this
guy should be on their side. But the beauty of
that podcast is it's basically we know that people that
Trump and people in Trump's orbit listen to Tucker. They
respect Tucker. Tucker is at the inauguration, Tucker is close
to Trump. Tucker can texts Trump. He's they're basically saying,
this is what you have to do, mister president, and
if you don't do this, we are going to you.
Tucker is Trump's biggest fan. If Tucker turns on Trump
on issues, it's going to be good. It's it's going
to be bad for Trump. Does a lot of people
listen to Tucker And you know, Trump is one of
those people who he is not Maybe he's a vanguardist now,
but he's not a vanguardist. He wants, he wants to
be loved. And if there's a bunch of people out
there who are like on the right, who are like,
I voted for you, and you didn't give me this,
you're doing this and this is against what I want.
It's the brilliance of the of this podcast. I think
this is one of the most important podcasts, not because
it's waking up normies, fuck right, Okay, because he's speaking
directly to Trump and Trump's Orbit, and it's that Orbit
trusts and looks at Tucker, and it's almost like Tucker
is trying to speak something into existence. To go to
Stormy and my yep. The episodes that we're doing on
the metaphysical on the intention. He's throwing the intention out
there of getting something done and he's expecting it to
be done.
Speaker 2: Dude, did you catch the part in that episode.
Speaker 1: I'll link it, by the way, because everybody listening has
to listen to it. Did you catch in that episode
where he was talking about Europe being suicidal and he
doesn't know why, but he thinks there's something nefariously spiritual
going on there?
Speaker 6: Supernatural element causes Western Europeans to want to kill themselves.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's not funny, but I'm laughing because that's what Stormy
and Peter are talking about. That's what they've been talking about.
I'll have to link those episodes too, Stormy, you there.
Speaker 6: Well, the second one's not out until Tuesday, but supporters
have had it for a while now.
Speaker 1: Okay, because yeah, I knew was recorded. I didn't know
it was out. Wasn't out for free yet.
Speaker 4: There is both a metaphysical and physical or a corporeal
reason I think for what Europe is doing. One of
it is so another thing that you know in the
storm he was right episode. The wrap is something I
called it, I think in Pete's show, on Jay's Show
and One of my earliest shows with you, Astro was
the rapid devaluation of European currencies as the sovereign debt
begins to roll over. When I first told you this,
the year was at a dollar fifty six. It's now
a dollar three, a dollar two, depending on the day.
Pound was a dollar eighty, now a dollar two, sorry,
a dollar twenty. So both the currencies and predict partictly.
Most of the movement happened in the last six to
eight months as things got really you know, COVID bought them.
COVID was a scam. I won't everybody knows was a scam,
but they don't actually know why the scam happened. And
it wasn't to sell vaccines.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was to steal the presidency.
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that either. I mean,
they could have it's liquidity. All this is. We're talking
about tens of trillions, one hundred trillion, one hundred trillion.
Don't give a fuck about like the presidency, Okay, but whatever,
this is a lot more money Canadian dollar, same thing, right,
So the rapid devaluation as these things kind of unwind,
and I made a little list Astro was for dear listeners.
Astro was asking me to put together a list of
all all the calls on it. So I think I
did them. I think I did at least most of it.
But one of the things that is happening is the
US government is going too drastically downsized. It has to
the same reason why deportation, right is suddenly on the
table in Europe there trying to buy themselves more time.
Oh yeah, all right, the deed without getting into it,
I can later whatever if we have time, explain why
the mass immigration allows the debt bomb to roll a.
Speaker 2: Little bit further. Absolutely have to talk about that.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll do that. You can wait, Yeah, yeah,
there's somebody to jot down a note. But right, so
this bubble, this derivatives bubble that's collapsing, is fueled by liquidity,
and liquidity needs treasuries. Right, the treasury market allows it
basically a fig leaf of her for otherwise completely uncollateralized debt. Right,
So that would mean like, so what if I just
gave you a mortgage to your house, Astrol, But I
didn't ask for the deed to be held until that
debt was paid off. Right, I'd be a terrible loan.
You wouldn't want to do that, be like, fuck, what
if what if you just decide not to pay me?
That's uncollateralized debt. Right, but they need at least you know,
we'll call it like two percent and ninety eight percent. Right,
they need at least but one or two percent treasuries
and then they'll print that. Then they'll hypothecate the other
ninety eight percent. Right right before COVID happened in August
between nineteen there was something called the reverse repo crisis
or liquidity crisis. There wasn't enough treasury, there wasn't enough
dollar denominated reserve assets. So this thing, the Trump doing
what he's going to do, Doge doing what he's going
to do, is going to drastically shrink the US budget,
which means if the budget gets cut by my prediction
was at least twenty percent, which would be insane. The
rest of the world would see that. It's such a signal.
It would be I mean, people are like, oh, well,
we got thirty seven trillion dollars of debt. The market
always front runs everything. So if I see Donald Trump
cutting massive spending, reorganizing the entire how do these fucking
globo homo the whole of government response? If he's restructuring
government to drastically downsize it, laying off all of the
federal employees, which he's doing en mass freezing all of
the agency spending. By the way, there's four hundred and
eighty executive branch agencies. That's not including all the committees
and advisory boards and regulatory boards. If we were to
add all those up, roughly about eighteen hundred federal agencies,
and Trump on day one froze all of their spending. Right, So,
like things like the Inflation Reduction Act or whatever, the
Green New Deal, whatever, these single the double digit trillion
dollar bills that the Biden hunter pushed through Congress, Right,
just because they get signed into law doesn't mean that
that money gets spent right then and there. Right, That's
what appropriations are for, right, So that money will be
spent over five, six, seven years. So if Trump comes
in and be like, yeah, I know we have appropriated
a trillion dollars, but I think we spent enough money
already and I don't think I'm going to spend the
rest of it, even though it's appropriated. The Inflation Reduction
Act doesn't mandate that money be spent, It just appropriates it. Right,
So Trump already cut that fucking Inflation Reduction Act in
half because half the money wasn't even spent yet. Now
it's not going to be right freezing all agency spending,
right freezing all agency hiring. All this means that the
government is going to have to borrow less money. Well,
how does the government borrow money. It creates treasury bonds.
So by Donald Trump shrinking the government and or freezing spending,
you are creating the very liquidity crisis that these people
have been moving Helen Earth to avoid. You know, you
can go back into my episode with Astrol that we
did on the back of Thomas seven seven's season finale
to explain all of what I'm talking about, but the
fact that he is doing this and pulling troops out
of Germany at the same time, because the Europeans were like, oh, right,
if we don't have somebody to blame this on, if
we don't have martial war powers at the time that
this fucking bomb goes off, we're going to end up
with our heads on spikes. Right, So then the French
and the British are held bent on starting World War
three with Russia for America to come in and fix
it for them, like we did in World War One,
and like they managed to do in World War Two.
This time Trump's not doing it. And how do you
signal to NATO that we are not coming to fucking
bail you out? Well, you pull twenty thousand troops out
of Germany and you're like, well, I guess we're not
coming to bail you out, So I guess I'm gonna
go ahead and shrink the budget. I don't care if
you blow up financially. And that's what he's doing. At
the same time, he's trying to cause regime.
Speaker 2: Change in the UK yeah, and Germany.
Speaker 4: Yep. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: He's pulling crazy the border. Well, if you why would
he want to be regime changing the UK and Germany
for this? I Well, if I knew, if you knew
that the UK was really the force behind the UK
and Zionists inside the US, we're responsible for the Ukraine
War period to create the kasas Belli for NATO. Yeah, right,
if you knew that these two governments, the UK and well,
just say Germany are hell bent on starting World War
three with Russia because they know that they have literally
just in the uncollateralized stuff, eighty trillion, eighty trillion. Everybody
cries about the US debt thirty trillion, whatever. We got
the deepest fucking capital markets in the world, and give
a ship, all right, we could sink thirty trillion in
twice a bunch of European countries with an eighty trillion
dollars derivative bubble. That's a big problem. And you know
before people get confused and it pick you unless you
understand the function of the City of London. And this
is all going to sound hyperbolic and nonsensical, and that's
its own separate fucking thing, all right. So these guys
are hell or high water. They're going to try and
get a war with Russia. Right. They deployed very large
troop formations in Cursk secretly without telling their population, right
on Russian soil. That's happening right now. So if you're
President Donald Trump, you get inaugurated on Monday, and you're
now finding out all of this. The very first thing
you do, you stop Gaza. Now you got to move
on to Europe. Okay, Well, the Europeans are trying to
start this war, and the more I try and shrink
the government, the more they're going to escalate. And or
false flag. How do I tell them that no matter
what false flag, no false flag, two battalions, ten battalions
get wasted and cursed no matter what you do, the
US is not going to commit to Article five. No
matter what you do with Russia, we will not be
coming this time. Well, you pull all those troops out
of Germany and in the meantime, how do you buy
yourself time before you get inaugurated, because they started doing
this three weeks ago. Well, you bring in Elon Musk
to literally cause the biggest political ship storm in UK
history in the meantime to keep them occupied. Does the
same thing in Germany. So two days after I found
out that those troops went into Kursk, whether they did
or not, and no one's gonna be able to confirm
or you know whatever, and go ask an m I
six friend. Two days after that happened, Elon Musk starts
going in on Keir Starmer's government. Coincidence, I don't know, anyways,
That's why we're trying to do regime change in the UK,
and honestly, they fucking deserve it, not just for this
but World War One and World War Two. You're lucky.
Sometimes I wonder whether the world would just be more
simple if the only autom bomb that got dropped in
World War Two landed on the city of London.
Speaker 6: The people who created that bomb actually wanted it to
be dropped on Berlin's.
Speaker 4: So I guess Germany must perish, right, Yeah, well.
Speaker 6: I mean what we're seeing is obviously a restructuring while
we were sitting here. I mean, this is completely anecdotal.
Buddy of mine contacts me and says, says, I want
to share that I have dealings with a lot of
federal vendors and employees and things are nuts for them
right now. He says, My neighbor of federal employee and
known lib Tard is retiring this year so that they
don't have to go back into the office or see
things with Donnie T's portrait in the office. And I
think that's another one of the when you realize it
was like a perfect storm of being able to get
rid of people because if they're working from home and
assuming they have a second job, which they probably do
because they're not They're most likely not doing their government job.
This is a great way to get people out. And
we know that we have to get people out. We
know that the size of government has to be shrinked
dramatically in order to do the kind of financial the
kind of financial healing eventually that needs to be done
in order to keep us going.
Speaker 3: That's that's a really interesting point, Pete.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Obviously, again, the like you know, right wing wet dream
is basically, you know, walking into the Opal office and
then sort of you know, quote Trump just saying you're
fired at everyone in the federal government, right, pack it
up and go.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But you know, much like immigration, you certainly can do that,
but it's a more economical move, right. You expend less
capital if you just change people's and sentives. Right, So
for instance, you don't literally have to load up ten
million people into it C one thirty and you know,
ship them back to wherever they belong. I mean, that'd
be fun. But what you can do is obviously that happens,
like we've seen Trump literally say if you are in
the DEI office, you're gone, right. But also you know,
by changing the incentives by basically treating your government job
as a job with real responsibilities. All of a sudden,
the type of people who want government jobs for all
the wrong reasons, right, the kind of sinecures of the state.
They react to those incentives, right, they say, I want
to go elsewhere. And so again this seemed like a
like a nothing, right, like, oh, just why would he
do that? Why would he say they have to come
in to person. Well, one, because the data on that
is the people prefer working from home, right, they they
given the choice, they'd rather do it. So it's creating
a barrier of entry to government jobs.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And also, let's be honest, if you have a government
job you can do remotely, it's probably not that important, right,
you know, these aren't exactly are like you know, the
soldiers manning Fort Knox. So, you know, I think that
really it was a very very good move. And you know,
to look at all of these executive orders, I think
one of the most shocking contrasts between Trump round one
and Trump round two is that this was very clearly
highly prepared.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: We were talking earlier about you know the fact that
Trump has deployed troops to the border, the fact that
that happened within just a few hours of him being
sworn in indicates that there was pre planning on this, right.
You know, you and I have a mutual contact with
some military experience. And what he said is to do this,
you'd need a month, right to prep to get it going.
And all right, let's say he's off. Let's say it's
two weeks. Well, it didn't take two weeks. It took
a couple hours.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You can't organize a church picnic in a couple hours,
let alone a full scale military operation. And so, regardless
of your opinions on Trump, this indicates that he has
institutional support of some variety of another. And that means
there is a faction in power that is one aligned
with Trump and two interested and secure in the border.
And that's a really interesting thing because what we saw
in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: But I thought the regime want Trump, the regime want
Trump to put in you know, a Kamala just a jobber.
Speaker 3: Well, and the reason that I bring this up is
because I think that if the purpose of this podcast
is to basically like lambast and identify certain kind of
common failings on the internet, right, I think one of
them is one that you were sort of aping their stormy,
which is the regime? Is this like evil monolith?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: That very clearly what we've seen is the birth of
a secondary interest group, or at least the political emergence.
Who knows how long it's been there. And I think
that's really interesting because obviously this is not a pure
MAGA project, right. Trump is not getting this level of
organization with your crazy Facebook boomer aunt.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: There are real serious people behind this. And we see
that both because of what he is able to do
in such a short term, right, but also because a
lot of these are very very well thought out. And
this is the kind of experience that you would have
to know about Washington, to know about the system, to
be able to do like all right, okay, maybe he
gets lucky once. But to drop all of these all
at once, with nothing leaked and then act on it
like that, I mean it speaks to the level of
organization the standing behind him.
Speaker 6: Wow. And let's let's just be honest. There are a
bunch of people who are just going to be like
the plan trusters are going to be like, well, you
know he was, he was in charge the whole time.
But yeah, I mean, it's very obvious that there were people.
I mean, he he had what two months is that that?
What it is? From from November sixth, there.
Speaker 4: Wasn't a power fact dead. Let's just be real.
Speaker 6: So you can say the regime once at him, and
I think, as you clearly explain, yeah, people working inside
the regime and people coordinating inside the regime. And this
just goes to show that that word no one wants
to use conspiracy, Conspiracies happen and you can get people
organized behind the scenes and ready to go. He's not
the first president who's done this. I mean Ronald Reagan
famously on the day he was inaugurated, the hostages left
Iran because apparently someone was working behind the scenes. What
I'm seeing is a lot of what we wanted, and
a lot of people who are really having a hard
time time with this because first of all, they don't
know how to deal with w's and second of all,
because a w to them is everything they want, as
we've already as we've already stated, and they think everything
can be done in five days, and not everything here
that needs to be done can be done in five days.
He needs certain people in place in order to do this.
I mean, look at Secretary of State, Rubio gets Rubio
gets confirmed, and in two days he's in South America.
He's going down to Panama and they're gonna we're gonna
I mean, I don't know for one hundred percent sure,
but I'm ninety five percent sure we're going to have
control back over the Panama Canal. What what are they
going to do? What is the Panamanian government going to do?
What is China going to do?
Speaker 4: Same thing to column being president just did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we're we're recording this on the day
when the Colombian president the United States sent two plane
loads of Colombian illegals back to Colombia and he's like, no,
we're not going to take them here. You have to
be you have to be humane and everything. It's like, well,
I mean, you know, you have to respect them. It's like, okay,
you see, you respect them so much you don't want
them back in your country that that sounds great. And
not only do you see not only does he immediately
say we're going to put twenty five percent tariff on things,
but then he comes out and says, and we're kicking
basically every diplomat every representative of the Colombian government out
of this country. And then a half hour later he's
the Colombian president is not only sending his own planes
to get these people, but now he is being excoriated
on Twitter with a friggin' tweet showing him showing, Oh,
here's the very here's the married president of Columbia in
another country walking hand in hand with a trans woman.
I mean this, They were ready for this. I mean
this is this level of organization is impressive. But you
also have to understand that this was I've been organizing
this for a while, you know, Project twenty twenty five.
Everybody's like, see I saw John Cooper, who's blocked me
on Twitter a long time ago. Go see see they
said that they didn't we going to do any all
of this is Project twenty twenty five. Yeah, we lied, motherfucker.
Fuck you.
Speaker 4: Well there's another Everybody thinks the Pentagon and the Executive
Branch are the room things or they are all one thing,
all right, when I urge everybody to go back two,
I mean we said it in Syria on the On
a previous episode of this show, we talked about Syria,
and also we talked about what happened in Ukraine, right,
President Biden two troops in Poland, comes out and says,
this time next month, you're gonna be in Ukraine. And
somebody from the fucking Joint Chiefs of Staff never when
was the last time you ever saw somebody from the
Joint Chiefs of Staff on TV come out and say
everything the President said was bullshit? And the very next
day the White House comes out and says, yeah, everything
the President just said is bullshit. If you haven't been
paying if you've been paying attention to how the US
government's been operating over the past, just the Biden administration,
and you can't see that there are two factions, and
one faction is clearly represented by DoD and DoD adjacent
people who don't want to go to war with Russia
and who don't want to go to war with Iran
trying to stop the insanity of mostly Jewish people, either
through loyalty to Israel or resentment from Russia or resentment
to Russia, try and start wars with both Iran and
with Russia. In fact, in that Tucker episode, Tucker tells
you exactly which people these are I'm not good with.
I know Victoria Newland and a bunch of Really, they're
all the same to me anyways, there are factions in power.
The thing that pisses me off the most about a
certain UK person his interpretation of politics, not just to
mention is wrong as simple is Jewish power re Is
the power real? Yes? Yes, the power is real. Okay.
If the power is real, then de facto the competition
for that power is also real. You can't have power
without competition for it.
Speaker 1: To Pete's point earlier, you know, I don't know how
we can confirm this, but there's a report out on
Twitter that says President Trump is in talks with El
Salvador President Niki naib Buke on the creation of a
safe third Country agreement. This agreement would allow the US
to support non Salvadorian migrants to Al Salvador and also
block them from requesting asylum in the US. So you
see all these news headlines about how the president of Columbia,
as Pete mentioned, the president of Mexico is not allowing
their planes to land.
Speaker 2: So what's Trump going to do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess we got to keep all these people. No,
they're taking immediate action to make this should happen. These
people are serious. There's no way that they just cooked
this up. You know on day one that this has
been their plan from the jump, or you know, going
back before they even won the presidency, that they were
going to be doing all this and they were prepared
for these contingencies. And I don't think they're going to
be stopped.
Speaker 4: Jay, you were going to say something. Everybody in the
US government hates America. Remember that great reset slide deck,
the one that everyone was making fun of, the one
that probably cost the world economic form really all of
its legitimacy. That you will own nothing and be happy.
It's a twelve page deck. Yeah, twelve slides. The last
two slides are the most important, and the second slide
is also the most important. So those three slides, right,
because these people roll out agendas two years in advance.
Adalman pr. If you ever want to know where all
of these global narratives come from, that two weeks to
flatten the curve safe and effective apart, but together, all
the dumb shit from COVID ever build back better comes
from Adelman pr. They're the SSIO factory, all right, have
been since Iran Contra aightealman pr was the people that
came up with that deck. And the last two slides
are the US will no longer be a world superpower,
a world military superpower. And the last slide is the
US military will come under control of an international consortium
of European faggot chomos. You know who doesn't like the
idea of what is the US military? Well, it's the
most powerful killing machine ever been created. And whoever wields
that power can kill anyone at any time, at any place,
and however many of them that they want to kill,
and that may makes you de facto the most powerful
person in the world. If I can kill anybody anywhere, anytime,
and however many anybodies I want to in real power,
that makes me the most powerful. And if I wield
that power, I may not like the idea of giving
it up to a bunch of European COMMI fagots and
their international consortium of COMMI fagots. I may like being
in power, and I might want to keep doing it.
And the second slide is a central bank digital currency slide. Well,
that pretty much kills banking if you're a bank that's
in business and not a bankrupt European One, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, Barclays.
I might like the idea of staying in business, especially
if I'm Jamie Diamond, who we found out has been
advising Trump for years. Big surprise to everybody except for me.
I get to take my little victory left now. All right?
That means what do bank why do bankers want to
get behind Donald Trump? And why are the only US bankers? Well,
Jamie Diamond has spent every dollar he's ever made on
Wall Street buying JP Morgan stock. He's the chairman and
the CEO because he fucking owns that much, like Elon
muskets to be the CEO and chairman of Tesla because
he fucking owns that much. It's his company. JP Morgan
is Jamie's company. And Jamie may not like the idea
of his life's work going up in smoke and him
not getting to be the head of the most powerful
financial institution in the world. And he might not like
the idea that that power in this thing that he
built goes to some fucking pantsuit wearing drag queen like
Elizabeth Warren, some shrieking shrew right that knows nothing, has
never done anything these pathetic losers in government. You're telling
me Wall Street guys, guys that fucking these are probably
outside of people that actually fight and kill other people.
These are probably the most raging, fucking you know, a
hyper masculine type of individuals that you can find because really,
in their world it really is as close to combat
as you can get, except for, you know, one person
goes bankrupt instead of the morgue. But that's all they
think about is basically ways to kill each other financially.
You tell me that person is going to like the
idea of AOC or Elizabeth Warren being in control of
the US monetary system and gets to decide who gets
loans and who doesn't, who gets to run the stock market?
Absolutely fucking not about as much as the Joint Chiefs
of Staff like a bunch of euro Commy fagots wielding
the power of the US military to go enforce global
sodomy and faggotry. I don't see this possible. So right
there off the top, those are two separate power factions
that are not aligned with the regime. If power is real,
then competition for that power is real. I'll got off
off my hobby horse now.
Speaker 1: Well, if nobody else has anything stormy. There was a
Trump spoke at Davos and said Bank of America. Remember
he called out Bank of Americans. They had to stop
debanking conservatives. As you say, Bank of America was like
one of the people.
Speaker 4: Not an American bank. Yeah, Bank of America is only
American in name, and the fact that they're trying to
convince you that blatantly that they are American should tell
you that they're not. Just look up the ownership structure
of Bank of America. It's an Italian and French bank
that moved into the US. Bank of America and City
Bank are wealth child Bank.
Speaker 6: It used to be Bank. It used to be Bank
of Italy out of San Francisco. I think, yep, that's
what it was originally called.
Speaker 4: This is why it's always Bank of America that's on
board with all the Davos shit. So, yeah, Bank of America.
Since City Banks fall from grace, Bank of America really
was we'll just call them. Can call it like City
of London, you can call it World Jewelry, whatever you
like it. Really, they are interchangeable, have been since the
seventeen hundreds when they thoroughly took over. Really they completely
controlled the British financial system by the end of nineteen
fifty the euro dollar, and then by the end of
nineteen sixty they took this unfair advantage, this privilege that
was supposed to go to the Bank of England and
the Crown hijacked it through some Jeffrey Epstein's shit into
a private institution called Midlands Trust Bank. Midland's Trust Bank
was owned entirely by the Rothschild family right, and the
privilege to print or basically issue dollar denominated loans as
in like London dollars, create dollars was given to this
private institution. And at that point in time the US
had already gone home and forgotten about it. They didn't
forget about it, and they used this artificial system to
basically undercut all the regular, you know, banks in Europe.
So when I say like European comedy, Fagots, World Jewelry,
like these Davos people, I'm all talking about the same people.
They're all the same people. Because for the last New
York makes no difference. Eighty years, the global financial system,
using the offshore dollar market, the euro dollar system has
been controlled by five or six Jewish private banking families
in Europe. One of those private banking families are on
all of Israel's money, all right. They created the Balfour Declaration,
and the Balfour Declaration was repayment from the British state
to this private banking family that convinced the British crown
that they could get America into World War Two on
the side of the UK. And they did because Roosevelt.
Well watch Pete and I show on The Robber Barons.
I think episode one pretty much hammers that issue out,
all right. So these people are the people that founded Israel.
The Kanesset building, all right. Their parliament building is named
after this family, this family's and all their money, and
they're more Wrothchild Streets in Israel. And there are Martin
Luther King Boulevards in America. So it really is all
one fucking thing. And that's fucking l after l lately
since the inauguration.
Speaker 1: Also at Davos, Jamie Diamond said he backs Trump's tariffs,
that they're good for national security.
Speaker 4: He didn't just say that, he said sometimes national security
supersedes economics. What banker would tell you that. It's almost
like he has a counterpart in the defense establishments, not
an individual. But we're talking coalitions, right, Why would you
fuck about national security over global banking?
Speaker 6: Oh, I know that it was the first time you
ever contacted me. You asked me to look at the
board of JP Morgan Chase and tell me what was there,
what was so?
Speaker 4: What was there and what wasn't there?
Speaker 6: Well, the only people who are part of a certain
tribe are lawyers who don't get to make decisions. She
was former intelligence and for and former like Pentagon Military.
Speaker 4: That's who's on the board of JP Morgan Chase along
with Jamie Diamond.
Speaker 6: Why.
Speaker 4: Because JP Morgan is the financial arm of US foreign policy.
JP Morgan is I won't get into too much about it,
but JP Morgan controls ninety five percent of the global
bullian market. So when Jerome Powell started raising rates, Jerome Powell,
the guy that used to work for Jamie Diamond, right,
not at JP Morgan Chase. JP Morgan owns and is
or primary in hundreds of funds, hundreds of private equity funds,
hundreds of hedge funds, and all these other different financial institutions.
So I believe Powell ran a pe fund that was
under the JP Morgan wing, which is a very big wing.
And Jerome Powell started cranking up the interest rates. And again,
if you know, you're aware that the global monetary system
is fake, when you start cranking up the interest rates,
money starts pouring into the country that has the highest
interest rates because money will go where it's treated best.
So even half a percent more interest in let's say
Treasury is over European sovereign debt or Chinese sovereign debt. Whatever,
whatever's got the pay in the highest viig is going
to get the most dollars. And Jerome Powell made sure
the highest big was America. And when Jerome Powell first
raised the interest rate even a quarter of a percent,
he drained the world of four trillion dollars in capital
in a month and a half. So he's been having JP.
He's been having Jerome Powell crank that interest rate lever
because he knew that everyone was swimming naked. And when
the money rolls away, all these people that are over extended,
all these countries that have been overextended. An astrolom your
podcast that I that we went on after our show
with Thomas I talked about how this mechanism works. But
basically he made every central bank basically show its hand
that it was insolvent. And you've seen central bank gold
buying off the fucking charts more in the last year
than in the last sixty years. Central banks are desperate
for collateral because their ass is hanging out in the
breeze and they've got way too much debt and not
enough there's there's it's like a one million dollar mortgage
on a hundred thousand dollars house. That makes lenders real
fucking scared and want their money back. So they've been
trying to backstop their reserves, and the only way you
do that is with gold. Well, if JP Morgan and
Jamie Diamond controlled ninety five percent of the global bullion market,
that just makes Jamie Diamond the most important man in
the world. And now he can decide whose central bank
gets gold and who doesn't. Yeah, it's fucking brilliant, man,
it really. I wish I was that smart, but this
has been obviously been planned for several years. Now.
Speaker 1: What about unlimited immigration in the financial situation? What were
you saying about that before?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought I thought you, and I
I was trying to convince you that Trump wasn't going
to import a million h one b visa immigrants from
India for Elon Musk. How does that look now?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know for sure, but you were saying
earlier that the financial situation because in that Tooker interview
with Kurt Mills, he said that there should have been
higher inflation in America after COVID, but there wasn't. And
I think he said he doesn't really understand why that happened.
Speaker 4: I do, because all those treasury bonds were scooped up
by Europe through British version islands and a couple of
those little tax haven islands, and the U and the
Eurozone officially bought some, but they bought about eight times
as many unofficially. So all those treasuries instead of going
to create new loans which would cause inflation, right, because
you know how reserves work, right, So the bank takes
a treasury bond, puts it on its balance sheet and
it says, this is reserves now, and I'm going to
go lend nine times or ten times whatever I have
in reserves. So when treasuries go out the door, new
dollars get printed through loans. But if you have tens
and tens and tens of trillions of dollars in bad loans,
those treasuries are going to be going and covering up
all those bad loans to backstop those bad loans, and
they're not going into new loans. That's why.
Speaker 1: What about Yeah, what about immigration? Why why do they
need to run their schemes? Why do they need unlimited immigration?
Speaker 4: Unlimited immigration is unlimited government spending. Also, it is political instability. Right,
if you were afraid of Donald Trump, well, yeah, we
can go into all the reasons that that that immigration
is bad for nationalism. I think many other people have
hammered that out there. Really, but the things that Trump
needs to do are going to be inflationary, not just
right now but down the road. So how do you
stop inflation from hurting America? Well? I can either a
force every company in the country to give Americans a
raise and higher Americans only right, increase their quality of
living and their quality of life. Or I can just
end the way that they have been using to undercut
Americans and destroy their quality of life. Yeah. Did what
did Stephen Bessant say to the Senate when he was
getting confirmed specifically about immigration to any of you guys,
remember no, pe I know you do.
Speaker 6: I don't. It's escaping me right now. I forget.
Speaker 4: Well. One of the senators is asking like, oh, well,
we need immigration to this, you know, because the GDP,
and Steve goes, yeah, I can't remember if somebody remembers
it better than me. I hate to quote him horribly
or butcher the quote, but he basically says, oh, well,
if immigration is what drives GDP, why don't instead of
a wall, why don't we just build a big bridge
over Tijuana, a big one, and then we just have
everybody in the whole world come to America right now
and live here. We'll have the greatest GDP in the
whole world. And he's being sarcastic, and he goes, we
may have the greatest increase in GDP in history, but
the Americans that live here, they will have the most
rapid decline in quality of life and in I can't
remember how he said it, but basically, you will collapse
the financial condition of the American people that live here,
and you will destroy their quality of life. And that's
why trying to drive immigrate and trying to drive GDP
through immigration is a terrible idea and basically shame on
you for doing it. So basically, the Treasury is now
saying the same thing as Trump is.
Speaker 2: It seems like a short term thing too. They can't
go on forever.
Speaker 1: So okay, So why do you think we're not getting ah,
why do you think.
Speaker 4: To legal immigration or legal immigration doesn't matter. It's the
same thing Steve Besson is telling you that you can
no longer drive fake GDP numbers. Fake GDP numbers allow
the government to print more money. If GDP goes up,
that means the government gets to borrow more and spend more.
Trying to make the government spend less borrow less, you're
shrinking the balance sheet, You're shrinking the supply of treasury
bonds around the world. So if you're shrinking, you don't
need to pump GDP through fucking immigration because immigrants provide
two things. A they need money in government programs. Okay,
So right now I think thirty percent of our total
GDP is government spending, which means it's fake. Where does
that government spending go? Each one of these fucking brownoids
coming across the fucking border gets ten thousand dollars amonth
debit cards. Right, we spend a trillion dollars a year
giving them free health care at the state and the
federal level. Obviously the state is then paid for by
the federal government. Right, so you have to add the
state and the federal together. Right. California spends what eight
hundred billion dollars and fucking free shit to my or
eight sorry, ninety billion dollars, one hundred billion dollars something.
That that's just in free hospital care, not the free
childcare that they get. Right, because every h one B
person brings their entire family, that's the racket. Everyone's been
seeing the shit on Reddit, right, Pete, have you been
seeing the stuff on Reddit where the Indians are crying
like I can't have kids now, my little anchor baby
scheme isn't going to work. So me and my eight
aunties can get free healthcare and all get welfare. Yeah,
so what h one person? Yeah, this is the government's numbers.
For every H one B person they bring on average
five additional family members.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so basically eighty percent of those people brought over.
So basically, out of those six people, the H one
B and the other five assholes that they brought. It's
only the H one B person that isn't signing up
for welfare the very first day. So if every one
h one B person, you're bringing in five welfare recipients
on average about seventy thousand dollars in government benefits per person.
It's not just you take jobs away from Americans, it's
you ever notice.
Speaker 6: You ever notice the businesses and the corporations don't complain
about that? Why because those people are spending that money
at their businesses.
Speaker 4: Bingo, that's the that's how you crank fake GDP through immigration.
Pete just hit the nail right on the head. For
every dollar the government gives the these scumbags, they go
spend out.
Speaker 6: On Walmart's not going to come out against mass immigration.
No corporation, no big business is going to come out
against immigration because they know that they're coming here, they're
getting free money, and they're going to spend it with them.
That is why the whole libertarian it's a private company, bro,
they can do what they want. M Yeah, well look
what they're doing. Look what they're doing. Go ahead, defend that,
defend that. Just then the state, bro.
Speaker 4: Pe just hit the nail on the head. That's exactly
that answers the question ask for that's why.
Speaker 1: So why don't you think the H one B things?
I mean, I know why you think the H one
B thing is not going to happen. But what what
has happened recently? Vvek is no longer part of Doze,
which is nice. I mean, that guy's fucking he's fired. Well,
I know, but supposedly the story is there he's going
to run for governor of Ohio, and I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then Trump wouldn't have come out publicly and
said that he fired him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what evidence do you see though, that the
thing is going to be reformed?
Speaker 4: Do I need to spell this out to you?
Speaker 2: Well, you did, but I'm just saying that something happens.
Since then, Yes, something happened.
Speaker 4: Treasury is telling you that they're on board, which means that.
Speaker 2: The Jamie Diamond thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well so not just Jamie Diamond, Stephen Bessant was
Jamie Diamond's pick, obviously, Scott Besson, Scott Besson, I keep
on saying, Steve Bessant, all right, So this is basically
telling you that Trump doesn't give a fuck about the
drop in GDP numbers.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: That's because all the GDP was fake. Right. The goal
is to stop government spending, and that means that they
the administration is aware that admitted that the the immigration
thing just is a purpose of draining wealth out of America. Yes,
but when we drain our wealth and spend it on immigrants,
we create more debt that gets turned into treasury bonds
that the rest of the world can use to backstop
their currencies with the rest of the world needs. So
this is the thing. The rest of the world needs
the US government to not just not reduce spending, but
increase spending. This is what globalization is. Right. None of
this works unless the US government keeps spending an insane
amount of money more than it can afford. Right. You
cannot decrease the government's balance sheet without sending all these
Globalization was fake. China didn't pull half a billion people
out of poverty. We did. South Korea didn't turn itself
into a bombed out shithole into a first world country.
We did. Sorry, Japan, But you two Europe, same thing.
And now that we've built up all these economies, they
need us to keep spending and impoverishing our people. For
theirs for them to continue working. So literally, the rest
of the entire world is against US nationalism. And Trump's
telling you, who doesn't give a shit? Right, If GDP
goes down, that means the amount of treasury bombs going
out the door in government debt goes down, Trump shrinks
the government, that means the amount of treasure rebombs going
out the door, right that these people then turn into
you know, fake money goes down. And since this is
all debt driven, not only can the system not slow
down without breaking, but if it backward dates at all,
it seizes like convulses. Right, some people on the right
have correctly said that in a perpetual growth right debt
driven economy, which is what was created after World War Two,
that the system has to continue growing every single year.
It cannot go backwards because it needs to because everyone
needs to get paid interest. If you and I live
on an island and it's only the two of us,
a it would be terrible. But b if I lench
you ten dollars at ten percent interest, and it's the
only ten dollars I have and you don't have any money, right,
I give you the ten dollars, Where are you going
to find at the end of the year the one
dollar in interest to pay me. If there's only ten
dollars on the island, you have to go somewhere else
to find it. The system can't go backward at all.
And that means Trump knows what he's doing. He knows
what the economic chaos is going to fucking he knows
what's happening. This is the biggest white pill for me
because I was afraid that the sovereign debt collapse. Right,
it's not going to be the US, but I am
seriously saying that most of the developed economies of the
world are going to fucking have a sovereign debt default.
They're either going to have a sovereign debt default or hyperinflation.
Some of them are going to get both. This is
why every government was on board with COVID. Every government
was down because that was the only way the system
could continue. We're gonna switch for the CBD system, and
now it doesn't really matter what happens in the US
because we get to control the CBDC system. Right, we
get to control global money no matter what the US does.
This is why every from Papua New Guinea to fucking everywhere.
They were on board, right. But what I was afraid
is that Donald Trump wouldn't know this going in, that
this was happening. But knowing Jamie Diamond has been advising
him from the very beginning means that not only does
he know this is going to happen, but he's going
in and he's structuring his administration. And as Pete and
Jay and you can go on and continue, so I
can drink water. It seems that he's brought a whole
bunch of people from private industry, right, Guys like Musk,
guys like uh, Jamie. I mean, those are the ones
I pay attention to. But he's got a whole bunch
of people from industry on board and on his campaign
or on his on his team. So that means he's
bringing in business leaders that also now know what the
score is. That's why you're not getting any more h
one bs.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're right, man.
Speaker 4: Do you want me to go through the list of
all the things that I'm right about? M H.
Speaker 2: I think we did mostly Jamie Diamond.
Speaker 4: But anyways, let's let's move on. We spend enough time
on h one bs, and I talked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I'm it's almost midnight here.
I think I'm done, But I want to if anybody's got.
Speaker 4: There's a ton of stuff that happened.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Hey, pardon the jase. He nuked all the deis.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's literally turning turning back the civil rights era.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think that that's a really
interesting point.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: In addition, right, there are several other things that I
don't think he's done yet, but he said he will.
For instance, he said he's going to release the files
on JFK, RFK and MLK, which is a confusing number
of people to try and list out in order. But
I mean, look, guys, I know my audience. How deep
do you have to go into the Kennedy assassinations before
you get to our favorite Middle Eastern democracy?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Not particularly deep, as Ryan Dawson can tell us now.
On the other hand, Right, so that's that's one part
of it. The other one is MLK is like the
saint of the kind of like liberalism of yesteryear. He's
still like very deeply buried in our civic religion. But
even just knowing what we do now right with the
limited amount of declassified information that does not survive, you know,
that kind of like rosy picture of him with any
actual like contact with the man, right, and if those
documents get out, right, in addition to the repealing a
lot of the Civil Rights Act, I mean, that's a
very interesting kind of shift to the shift to the discourse.
One other one which we haven't mentioned yet and I
think is actually pretty interesting, is Trump pardoning the twenty
sum pro life protesters, right that the Biden DOJ went after.
So he gave a speech to the March for Life,
which I think had one hundred and fifty thousand people
at it this year, and he spoke about a woman
who's seventy three years old who was sent sentenced to
jail for two years. The judge made fun of her
for believing in God and then laughed at her husband
because he asked to be sent to jail with her
because he was worried his wife would die in prison.
And not only did Trump pardon her, but Trump basically said, like,
this is done. The DJ is not coming after you anymore.
I'm ending it now. And Pam Body, I think that's
her name, who he is nominated for age that has
been at the forefront of her speeches. And look again,
my point in all of this is, you know, not
to to overemphasize Trump himself as a man, but also right, like,
what is power. Power is the ability to punish your
enemies and reward your friends. And what is Trump doing.
He is punishing our enemies, right, whether it's through fore
and aid, whether it's through you know, forcing these you know,
government workers to either get new jobs or to actually
come into work. You know, he's punishing our enemies, and
he's rewarding our friends.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: He rewarded the j six guys, he rewarded these pro
life protesters. And again we're not done. We don't need
to kick up our feet and say the West is saved.
But this is a win. And you know, I was
dming back and forth with with Jeremy carl right, the
guy who wrote The Unprotected Class The War.
Speaker 2: I think the.
Speaker 3: Subtitle is something alongline of the War on White Americans.
Speaker 2: Yes, and go ahead.
Speaker 3: And what was really interesting is he included a number
of policy provisions in that book. I think it was
roughly like eight or nine of them. We're basically directly
lifted by the Trump campaign, Like they're like, Yep, we're
gonna do that. And again, like I said, I I
sort of feel like it's it's Christmas morning. It would
have been Christmas morning if we got any one of
these things right, we're sort of we're sort of spoiled now, right.
We got you know, like like we were talking about earlier,
we got ninety percent of what we could have reasonably expected.
And I think that we need to just take stock
of like the situation we're in and compare and contrast
that to the mood in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
really up until just a few short months ago. And
I don't know, take stock. It's it's a dramatic, dramatic reversal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't want to stop at AHw NGB's
because this is literally the most exciting time I think
I can remember in my.
Speaker 2: Life politically, one hundred percent, Like this is.
Speaker 4: The most massive pete. Have you ever thought that anything
like this would be possible? Now?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: You know, I know that guys on our side are
going to have different opinions on Ross Saltbrook, but yeah,
M pardoning Ross Olbrook. But you know, I've known Lynn
Olburke for almost ten years now, and I remember Tom
Woods and I were talking the other day about her
and one of the things that we said privately was
like I met her. I remember being with her in
New Hampshire in like twenty nineteen, February twenty nineteen and
just talking to her and in my head, I'm going,
she's going to this is her life trying to get
her son out of jail until the day she dies,
and he is going to die in jail. It was
just it was a foregone conclusion. There was no hope
at all. And just seeing that is like, I mean,
I can't believe that that actually happened. And the January
sixth prisoners too, It's like I thought that if he
got back in he might pardon some of them, but
not all of them. Apparently at the last minute he
was just like fuck it, you know, part them all.
And you know I didn't I didn't think yeah, and
I didn't think i'd see you know, things like affirmative action.
You know, the the the the executive order. It was
an executive order. Any president since then could have overturned it.
Any president could have done it. And I think, I mean, this.
Speaker 4: Is affirmative action. Was a fucking executive order.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was an LBJ. It was an LBJ executive order.
It was I think I think it was. It was
eventually put into it was eventually codified, but I think
it was eventually codified into some some you know, some code.
But striking yeah, yeah, case a lot of president. Yeah,
but striking that executive order down now just eliminates all
that just negates at all.
Speaker 3: So this is I think kind of that.
Speaker 4: That includes disparate impact.
Speaker 6: Right, I don't think desparate. There's the desperate impact. This
is separate, is separate, and I don't think he's addressed
that one yet.
Speaker 3: So I think this is a really interesting point about
Trump that, you know, as someone who's you know, doesn't
have necessarily a long political career but grew up in
Red America, I remember decades of you know, think pieces
both from you know, the left and also from like
the cuck right right, the David French types that basically said, abortion,
mass migration, gay marriage is inevitable. You can't do anything
to change it, so just accept it. And you know,
I think probably the most important thing Trump has done
is completely smashed that narrative, because it turns out no,
mass migration isn't inevitable. You can just decide to say no.
Like that, all of these things with just a you know,
a relatively small amount of political will can be ended.
You can say no. The adults are back in the room, like, uh,
I don't know if you heard. Mel Gibson basically said,
you know, dad's back and he took his belt off, right,
And that's really all it took. You know, it didn't
and again it's not done right. We didn't fix it fully.
But so many of these things were presented as insurmountable issues,
but effectively, you know, in many of these cases, we're
drowning in a bathtub. And all you need to do
is stand up and say no.
Speaker 4: Because like this whole.
Speaker 3: Great liberal myth of progress right forever going one way,
and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Well,
guess what that myth is fucking over. No, you can
say no, and I think even for that, right, even
just for shifting the bounds of what is seen as possible,
like Trump is easily the most like the most important
political figure of our age.
Speaker 4: Without question, I mean, just thinking about thinking about it,
how these things work. Because Trump is a showman if
this is what you did for your opening act, Yeah,
how you you have to step it up like it's
not going to be just like, oh, well I did
all the things the first two weeks. I guess you
guys have to hang out and love me for three
and a half years. I guess just you know, we
can keep replaying my greatest hits again and again and again.
No where does it this is. I mean, yeah, I
can say, oh, it's not over, but that's not how
Trump works. Trump keeps upping and upping and upping the ante.
And I think what also has been changed is the
most dramatic cultural shift I've ever witnessed in my life.
I mean, I think that we had a lot more
friends than we even knew about, and people that didn't
even know that they were our friends because they probably
thought we were crazy because all the things we thought
we needed were to them impossible, So being our friends
would be pointless, you know, engaging in you know, go
you're basically LARPing or playing dungeons and dragons if you believe,
you know, any of these things that these guys believe,
because it will never fucking happen. Yeah, it'd be great
to fucking live in a neighborhood with just white people.
That'd be amazing, but that's never going to fucking happen.
Like people are thinking differently.
Speaker 1: Well, call me crazy, maybe I'm missing something, but it
even looks like the liberal meltdowns aren't aren't as extreme
as expected.
Speaker 2: I mean there is not.
Speaker 1: I think everybody's just kind of collectively like, yeah, it
got crazy.
Speaker 6: Performative, their performative. If you watched the meltdown's like on Twitter,
the people who are melting down their performative. There, it's
everything you've heard before. It's nothing new under the sun.
It's just no one cares.
Speaker 1: It's I don't even yeah exactly totally. I don't think
it's like it's not as much as you expected, or
at least not as much as I expected.
Speaker 4: I think it's TV is very important. I think what
CNN just had to lay off another third of its workforce.
Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry, yesterday whatever it would be Friday
this past week. You fire people on Fridays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the nation.
Speaker 1: I think Trump is going so fucking hard on truth
social He's going so he's tearing everyone a new asshole.
He was mocking CNN. I think That's how I learned
about CNN.
Speaker 4: Was true social it was it was it the was
it the old Glory Club stream the other night because
you guys went through all the executive orders. It was brilliant.
But I think somebody on the show said that you
guys had more listeners than the average like CNN Morning Show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we had, we had more. We had more
views at that time than the average CNN Morning Show
has on YouTube a that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I've been saying it for a while.
Astrol I said it to you when I think I
first reached out to you that the zeitgeist is coming
to where we are, or to where this is. Yes,
and this is the place with the hot new ideas,
and I think this is going to be the place
of cultural primacy, and you want to get in on
the ground floor. Now that it's now that it is
self evident that this is the place with the winning ideas,
because that's what Trump's done. Trump's has done the impossible
ten times in a row, twenty times in a row
in a week. So not only is he like are
his ideas de facto correct? He is able to make
because people, the average person's not going to sit down
with me for two hours and learn how the global
fucking economy works and why Trump doing this is going
to make this happen, and this happen and this other
thing happened, and the third thing is going to be
what's good for them. They don't have time to do that,
But what they've never seen in their fucking life is
an executive wave his hand and then get things done. Yeah, Like,
when was the last time you saw a politician say
I'm going to do this and the very first chance
he gets he does it and then does more Like
I don't think people have seen executive action like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he just keeps it going, man, bro, I.
Speaker 4: Mean this is going to make the normy so trump
pilled right that I don't think that. I don't think
there's any political fend sitters anymore. But I think people
are going to want to be a part of it,
right because like, Okay, the reason you want to get
in onto the right is because I like, this is
where cultural primacy is going. Nobody knows it yet, but
this is where it's going because this is the place
where new ideas are happening. But now that Trump is
in and now that things are actually happening, everyone in
their fucking mother is going to want to be a
part of it. I think I told each one of you,
at least separately, that the real estate you occupy is
about to become fucking fifth Avenue, the audience you have
is going to be it's just going to grow. Yeah,
because where we are is now the place to be,
and all those people in normally, I mean, fucking how
easy is it to ratio Joel Berry with like zero effort?
Rufo still is trying to make up for that fucking
Panda Express bullshit like it just flatly won't fly anymore. Yeah,
they hung out.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Ruffo Moore, but it's too
late now.
Speaker 1: But I think I saw in a while he's trying
to claim victory, saying that the DEI initiatives are because
of him.
Speaker 4: A little digging on him.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But we gotta save it. We gotta,
we gotta save it because.
Speaker 6: I got I gotta tap out, and.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about the Manhattan Institute. So can
we we do? Do we reconvene soon?
Speaker 4: Yeah? What did what did Thomas say? Later the next
later this week.
Speaker 2: Or the weekend, by next weekend, all right?
Speaker 4: I mean that is Is it not the most exciting
time to be talking about politics, because it's the most
exciting time in politics. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I the one thing I didn't get to was
Manhattan Institute. I meant to bring that up and I
forgot about it. So let's start with that. Let's make
that our next thing.
Speaker 4: Oh Jack, that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very relevant, It's extremely relevant.
Speaker 2: It's important.
Speaker 4: And I think it is a lens that we can
look through a lot of these pied pipers on the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we need to put him at
Jay if Jay's still there. We me and Jay talked
a lot about James Lindsay kind of pretty early on
in his whole Woke Right crusade. I mean, I don't
want to say we we put our episode out before
the Woke Right Crusade started, but it was right at
the beginning and based on what we're seeing now, remember
the Panda Express gate. I want to put Rufo right
next to Lindsay. Man, it's just an op. It's just
an op.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: But that's all I want to say about it tonight,
because we're two and a half hours in I got
it out of bed.
Speaker 4: How much of all of Republican and conservative dialogue for
the last twenty years has been an op?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and they all they do, right is they
just jump from a platform to platform and they find
new people.
Speaker 2: But it's all the same shit. It's all the same.
Speaker 4: Why is Chris Rufo telling me the same shit that
I need to accept the same quality of life as
the fucking American Enterprise Institute.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the last thing I'll say is because
American Enterprise Institute Neo cons are the fucking money behind
the Manhattan Institute.
Speaker 4: There's not much American about the American Enterprise Institute. But
like what Jay Burden was saying, how his entire life
following conservative politics, people were telling him that mass migration
is inevitable and you need to accept it. And I
can't remember what the other three things were, but it
just sounded like something a think tank person would say.
I think that.
Speaker 6: There was another thing that just before we leave, that
was on Tucker, something that I caught that was remarkable
because now he sounds like us. He brought up David
He brought up David Wormser, and he said, David Wormser
he's he's not even he's not even an American. He said,
he's not from this country. And David Wormser was born
in Switzerland. He is Jewish arch neocon that he is
an American citizen. So Tucker is actually saying the same
things we say. We don't care that he's in These
are American citizens, they're not from here, their loyalties are
not too here. I thought that was I picked that
up and hours when he said that, I was like,
this episode is going is going to go certain places,
and it certainly most certainly did. If you want to
give anyone listening homework, go if you haven't listened to
that Kurt Mills episode with Tucker, go listen to it.
It's gonna be one of the one of your top
podcasts of all times.
Speaker 1: It's going in the show notes, it's my favorite Tucker episode.
And man, let's saying a lot because Darrel Cooper was
on there. That's the fucking homie. But this episode with
Mills is ridiculous. I mean, it's like it's like us,
I mean, we we say whatever the fuck we want
on here, and those guys are on that level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not exactly being as harsh as we are.
Speaker 2: No, but they go all the way though, Yeah, they
go all the way.
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta sign off, But we're gonna reconvene
in a SAP and it's gonna be Manhattan Institute.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'd be funny to take a peek
at some of the other people. Like I think Serno
is saying he's producing a movie. I'd love to know
who's financing.
Speaker 1: Its different, though we gotta is a little different. He's
a little bit more of a free agent. He's a
free radical from what I understand. I mean, I don't
fuck what what the fuck do I know? But based on.
Speaker 2: Totally controlled RUFO is totally fucking controlled for anyone at home.
Speaker 3: H If you want to be instantly blocked by Mike Cernavich,
I just mentioned the phrase it tastes like pennies drives him.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, apparently it does taste like pennies and chemicals.
But I'm not brave enough to find out. But luckily
he was. He treaded where.
Speaker 3: He Yes, I'll put it this way, Maybe you could
wrap up on this. Yeah, Like Cernovich seems like the
kind of guy who eats a Snickers bar, upside down.
I'll put it like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least you know, I'm gonna have to
google that, but that can me very bad.
Speaker 6: And oh man, you didn't know if snickers bar, then
the vamy part feels like it's on your tongue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, if you have if you have the if you accidentally,
you know, find yourself dancing with a transvestite man, at
least have the common courtesy to suck her off. Right,
Oh good, Mike Cernovich, conservative leader, also trans pen enthusiast.
Speaker 1: You know, I have to say I've seen him give
several different excuses for that.
Speaker 4: Uh how many excuses you got for sucking tran pine?
I don't know. He's done it.
Speaker 2: He said it's satire. He said someone else wrote it.
He said it's a story someone told him. He said
it was a fucking I mean, one of the he's whatever, whatever,
I don't even care. He's a relevant man, He's irrelevant.
Speaker 4: He seems to be showing up the parties and talking
to all the leading conservatives.
Speaker 2: He has been.
Speaker 1: He was, he was in that Trump documentary that came out,
Remember that Trump Trump doumentary.
Speaker 4: He's trying to cozy up with our guys, I think
Keeper is important right now.
Speaker 6: He shows up to those parties where you think that
probably at the door you're going to be handed at kippa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for the most part, like David Worms,
they're not American, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Gens, I gotta wrap up.
Speaker 6: I gotta wrap up everyone. Take care of that.
Speaker 2: More. Stay tuned for more