WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:15.439 Welcome to the Marvel Lines Podcast, recover anything and everything 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.920 to do with the Marvel Universe, the comics, TV, in movies. 3 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:19.839 We'll go from er six one six to the Mojo 4 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.079 verse of the TVA in order to bring the Marvel 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:24.600 Unis right to you. I'm the Man without Fear, Chris. 6 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:33.359 Now I'm Travis Alliance seven, Volume two hundred and ninety nine. 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:38.920 So close, so close to three hundred. We're almost there, 8 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.200 and David decides, you know what, I don't want to 9 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:43.840 join this one. I'm only going to show up for 10 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:48.039 three hundred. So he jets out of town, you know, 11 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:51.679 doesn't leave a postcard, doesn't doesn't give me a hug 12 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.439 or kiss goodbye. No, he just leaves me high and drive. 13 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:57.840 But at least he finds a co host to join us, 14 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.960 the one, the only, mister Travis. How are you, sir? 15 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.880 I'm doing well, Chris. Thanks for having me, and it's 16 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:08.040 nice to be on two ninety nine. Congratulations already. I 17 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:12.120 guess for three hundred. Yeah, even though it'll be a week, right, 18 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:13.439 next week it'll come out, But. 19 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:15.879 Next week it'll come out. Yeah, we last night. Time 20 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:18.400 of Recording comes out on Friday, but Time recording. Yes, 21 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.280 we have already recorded episode three hundred because of scheduling 22 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.239 for our guests. It is a long episode, but it 23 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:28.079 is a very fun episode, so we hope you all 24 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:30.879 enjoyed at that point. For when it releases next week, 25 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.599 it will drop on audio feeds as usual on Friday, 26 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:40.000 and it will premiere at our normal time on YouTube 27 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.120 at nine ten, so we will we will not be there, 28 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.200 but it'll be premiering at the time, so that you 29 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.400 loyal viewers of the show at that point rest assured. 30 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.400 It will drops as usual. 31 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.560 So just don't spend too much time in the comment section. 32 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:56.680 I'll spend all the time in the commic. I'll watch 33 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.719 it later. But yeah, having a good week, sir. 34 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:03.959 Yes, it's nice that today was my Friday. 35 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.519 So today was my Friday. Today was my Friday too, so. 36 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:09.879 It helps with this podcast because as you know, at 37 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:11.599 the time, it's a little difference. It's a little bit, 38 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.719 but so yeah, it's nice to not have to really 39 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:18.599 worry about doing work tomorrow. So yeah, I'm really excited 40 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:20.000 to actually talkpit content too. 41 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.280 Yeah. We we start four day weeks here so with 42 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:28.560 summer and moving on, so it's four day, ten hour weeks, 43 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:31.199 ten hour day weeks, so I get Fridays off, so 44 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:32.960 it'll be nice having three day week and probably doing 45 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:35.599 a little work at home. Kids are at camp, you know, 46 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:37.240 so it'll be quieter housing and get a little bit 47 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:38.360 of work done, a little bit of what I think 48 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:41.240 I got some got my comics ready to read for 49 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:45.400 the weekly stack, so hopefully I can not work my 50 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.719 day away and enjoy a little bit of the day off. 51 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.400 So yeah, and you got a movie coming up in 52 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:52.159 a month and a half. We got one coming up 53 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.599 in three and a half weeks, so well three weeks, yeah, 54 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:56.360 three and a half weeks. 55 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:58.360 So we got and we got, we got X Men 56 00:02:58.439 --> 00:02:59.520 ninety seven July first. 57 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.840 I mean, yeah, you might see me back here Marvel 58 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.719 Alliance listeners, just a fyi as if you listen to 59 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.039 the first season. I was there a few times. Although 60 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.479 the first episode comes on Canadaday Line weekend is on 61 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.680 Canaday actually July first, so I can promise you I 62 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.039 won't be around for the premiere unfortunately. 63 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:18.719 Yeah, and yeah, we may have to heavy step in 64 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.639 for vacations that are sometimes planned within there too, so 65 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.080 stay tuned. Yeah, but yeah, so let us get the 66 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.199 lovely network plugs out of the way. So we are 67 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.360 part of the Geek Ultimate Alliance Network with six shows 68 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.240 covering the wide range of geek and nerdom. 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A few shows in the back 78 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.560 headlog for Marvel a Lines, we can watch this all day, 79 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.120 the Marvel Lines in Finny Desaga, Rewatch Tales from the 80 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:02.120 House of X where we rewalk our favorite movies from 81 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.719 the Fox era of X Men, and then the Backster broadcast. 82 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.039 Last summer we did the Fantastic Four retro film reviews 83 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.960 and as we announced the last week this month set 84 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.480 recording June fifteenth, we'll drop at the end of the month, 85 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:23.519 Cape Expectations, The Avengers, Earth Mighty as Heroes, Rewatch Slash 86 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.279 first watch. As I said last week, I've only seen 87 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:28.399 a few episodes of this show, not because I didn't 88 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:31.560 like it, but life happens and things move on. So 89 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.120 David has seen it a number of times. So each 90 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:40.000 month we will give our thoughts on five episodes of Avengers, 91 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.240 Earth's Mightiest Hero. So we are recording in two weeks 92 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.240 and it'll drop at the end of the month for patrons, 93 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.240 so Cape expectations, so now you can remember it for 94 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:51.160 when you promote it. 95 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:52.800 I tried to smack it in my head a few 96 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.399 times because yeah, I've already done this multiple times, which 97 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.959 is not know the name, but just promote that you're 98 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.000 going with that show. We have five episodes. I know 99 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.199 the detail to just yeah the name. 100 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:05.560 Hey, I love I love, I love a good pun, 101 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:09.120 I love a good play on words. You know, KPE expectations, 102 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.480 So yeah, you're you're in for a good one. Yep. 103 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.040 So I may start watching it with my kids this 104 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:16.639 week or maybe do the next week. We'll see how 105 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.000 it is. But I'm excited. So but uh, we want 106 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.319 to thank our patrons. Obviously we cannot do this out 107 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:24.680 your support. And you've got some content from the DC 108 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.279 alliance guys doing their DC's films through the years. 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I think you 152 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:45.399 were the first one to do that in the GUA 153 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.839 first four episode. What do you think overall the first four? 154 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:54.000 Overall, I really enjoyed this show so far, Chris. With 155 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:57.920 the first four, I I will say, I want to 156 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:02.160 say a little disappointment in the first episode kind of 157 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:03.879 made me think I might get a bit more Spider 158 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:10.120 Man swinging stuff. But I'm loving I had to realize, 159 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.959 like obviously where this source material is coming from, and 160 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:18.000 it's more detective than it is Spider Powers. So I've 161 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.360 really digging this. And Nicholas Cage is absolutely perfect for this. 162 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:27.000 He nails just the odd, weird he his personality fits perfectly, 163 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:32.559 and the other characters in his universe I'm digging those 164 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.879 as well. So yeah, with four episodes the end, I 165 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.440 was loving it. I watched five straight. Luckily, the Secure 166 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:42.399 network went down for the company I worked for and 167 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.120 took seven hours for it to come back, so I 168 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.960 got to watch five episodes in a row, and yeah, 169 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.879 I couldn't stop watching it. So it had me hoped 170 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:53.679 that I also can understand why you would release this 171 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.639 type of show on a binge model, because it's not 172 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:58.919 like you have a big event happening at the end 173 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.159 of the second episode, at the end of the fourth episode. 174 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.000 It's a linear story that you've just broken up in 175 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.360 episode episodic pirates, but it's not like Daredevil, for example, 176 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.320 where there's like a big event that happens in the 177 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.759 second episode and in the fifth episode. So like, I 178 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:14.159 can understand why the would drop this kind of similar 179 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:16.679 to like what they do with like Kate Crusaders, I 180 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:18.559 can understand why he would drop this the full thing 181 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:19.000 at once. 182 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.639 Yeah, this is now two shows and this year alone 183 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:25.639 that David and I have had to break it up 184 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.080 in order not to watch it all at once, just 185 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:32.679 because it was not stopping. It's it's I'm not a 186 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.799 fan of this, regardless of whether I'm a content creator 187 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.879 or not. I hope this is the last one for 188 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:41.799 the year that we have to do this, because it 189 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.039 just I don't I don't like creating. I don't like 190 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.840 how this it doesn't keep it in conversation, I understand 191 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.080 I get in a small way why they do it 192 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:57.039 like this, just because it's an untested They want to 193 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.440 see what they can get for it. And I'm not 194 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:04.000 sure if it's land but for just an audience person 195 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.720 it you kind of forget about it at that point. 196 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.279 It's and it doesn't live on. But you know enough 197 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:13.120 of that. At that point, let's get into these final 198 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:17.320 four episodes and break this down. Does the big question 199 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.519 is is we'll come to the end. Does it stick 200 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.679 the landing overall? So we're getting in a spoiler territory. 201 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.720 So if you've not seen the final four episodes of 202 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.960 Spider Noir stop Watch, come on back at that point. Otherwise, 203 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:33.080 spoiler wall is going over in three two one. So 204 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.799 the episode five is called Betrayal. And so we actually 205 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.000 flashed back to the Wars. This is World War One. 206 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.759 You know, Ben is a pow and he's no well 207 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:49.000 excuse me. He goes to a pow camp and they 208 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:53.080 they are able to free all these all these POWs, 209 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:57.799 but finds that a number of them are being experimented on. 210 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.879 We see some of are some of the ones that 211 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:06.279 are being experimented on hybriding a mantis, a snake, a lizard, 212 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:09.960 a spider hybrid's that's where we saw the man spider, 213 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.720 you know from the trailer at that point, and the 214 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:18.000 man Spider bites Peter excuse me, bites Ben in the 215 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.200 arm before they shoot him, and Ben gives the order 216 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.679 to burn the entire place down and they're all escaping 217 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:24.799 and we see the men assembling in for the photo. Well, 218 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:30.399 Ben collapses as he is getting his spider powers, you know, 219 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:34.039 he said he notes takes some time to relearn how 220 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:37.879 to be more human after the attack, and like he 221 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:42.159 the spider genetics were kind of taking over. So one 222 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.279 thing I want to ask your opinion on, because I 223 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.879 brought this up last week, I really enjoy and I 224 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.279 thought it was a good move for the showrunners of 225 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:55.320 the show to how they have organically brought up origins 226 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.399 and brought up discussion points instead of just going this 227 00:11:58.440 --> 00:11:59.919 is how it happened in the beginning and then going 228 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.360 way through. I like how we're peace mailing it through, 229 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.000 just like the mystery being unwoven in the and the 230 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.759 story and finding out who's who's gonna get one over on. 231 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:14.919 Silvermain. 232 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.679 Yeah, Silvermain, So what did you How have you thought 233 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:18.039 about that? 234 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:18.320 How? 235 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:20.080 What have you thought about this kind of structure? 236 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.639 It keeps you on your toes, Chris, so you don't 237 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.480 get too use to things. I really like this backstory too. 238 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:30.120 I'm so glad they didn't go with the Spider Total stuff, 239 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.200 which is what I thought when I heard Nicholas Cage 240 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.759 was announced. That was my first thoughts, like they're gonna 241 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.360 go so heavy into this Spider Total, but no, they 242 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.480 go to exact opposite and seeing him watching the movies 243 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:44.320 to learn how to act human again, and you can 244 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:46.559 even see in the way he talks and acts like 245 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.639 he's just copying those people. I loved it, and I 246 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:51.759 love the way they're going back and forth here because 247 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.360 again it just keeps you like not sure what's going 248 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:57.960 to come next. And I really appreciate it because I 249 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.480 was waiting for this backstory for a couple of episodes, 250 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.639 so to get it now and then, like you said, yeah, 251 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.639 just jump back and forth so you're not just stuck 252 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:08.519 in that basically a bottle episode. You're still moving to 253 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:09.600 van Selon as well. 254 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.519 Yeah, no, bears lay in the chest to charge for sewing. 255 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:17.039 Up late, good evening, Good evening bears. 256 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.320 So, yeah, so moving towards you know, his discussion with Kat, 257 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.879 he's talking about how, you know, we're learning to be 258 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.799 more human the spider, the irachna genetics are inside of it. 259 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.039 You know. It's kind of like I hear him kind 260 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.399 of talking like this, it's a little swamp thing esque, 261 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.320 and I say a little because swamp thing it's not 262 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.399 Alec Holland. It's a plant that thinks he's Alec Holland. 263 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.879 So it's almost like he's still Ben. But I kind 264 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:46.679 of got a little bit, oh, you're trying to kind 265 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.399 of tip of the hat to swamp thing there. 266 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:50.679 We get more of a look at that too in 267 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.639 a couple in the episode where he gets taken and 268 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.559 gets experimented on, right, Like, yeah, I tak that a 269 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:56.200 little bit more. 270 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:59.279 It almost He even refers to what happened to him, 271 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:01.639 like the army and experimented on him and they knew 272 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.279 something was up with him as well. 273 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:08.000 He does those weird spider hicks. 274 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.679 At which was a cool thing to look at in 275 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.519 the sense of like, what, you know, how he got 276 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:19.919 his powers and that it's not as you know, not 277 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:25.240 as clisto clear, you know, not as smooth as what 278 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:28.720 we see Peter later on in his version of his 279 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:30.200 power set. I mean, yeah, he goes through this tup 280 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.840 and he has and become like battling a racknet feelings. 281 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:34.480 But we'll see in brand new days some things may 282 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.000 be going on in that sense as. 283 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:40.759 Spiders go through life cycles. Chris voice, that's all. 284 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:43.919 But yeah, so Cat's saying, well, Flint's powers came from 285 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.240 the same place as Ben's, and he admits that the 286 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.600 case as he wanted to learn from Flint as something 287 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:53.039 that gave them the same powers could perhaps take them back. 288 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.519 Kat asked if he really would want that, and he 289 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.480 admits that all he thought about since Ruby died is 290 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:02.799 just being Ben Riley. So we flashed to Robbie. He 291 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:05.679 goes to Robert Walters at the Bugle. Robbie offers to 292 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:07.879 let the Bugle publish his latest story in one condition 293 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.360 they run the piece as is not like what they 294 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:13.799 did last time in Root and totally change everything that 295 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.559 he put out there. 296 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:18.240 Also his reputation with people he's trying to get stories too, 297 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:19.240 so and. 298 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:22.759 He wants a protraction to apologize to Flint and Lonnie. 299 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.159 So you know he's making all demands, but he has 300 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.120 the fun story. He has the good story. They wanted 301 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:31.159 to sell the papers. He has the high right, Yeah, yes, exactly. 302 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.480 Flint's making his way down the alley as he walks 303 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:38.080 into the building and finds Lonnie. Flint notes that Silvermain 304 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:40.600 takes care of his own and offers the job working 305 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.080 with Silvermain, and Lonnie just says, I don't want to 306 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.519 work for another white man. But Flint says they need 307 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.039 to take what they can while they can, and Flint 308 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:51.559 suggests that they take they take life by the you 309 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:55.080 know cohon is he has and and uh, while they 310 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.360 still have a life to live. But I like that 311 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.360 Lonnie points us out and it's of the time, and 312 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.480 I mean when you could say it's even still. But 313 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.240 it's very APROPOTHI that he said, I don't want to 314 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.519 you know, I fought a war for you know, white people. 315 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:09.279 I don't want to have to now work for another 316 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:11.399 white person that doesn't care about me. 317 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.840 And I was experimenting on by white people. And again, 318 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.679 I really love his character and I'm so clad with 319 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.480 his whole story in this first season. So it's one 320 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:25.240 of the bright spots of the like actually bright side 321 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:25.720 for people. 322 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.600 Sorry, Bearsley, I didn't mean to spoil something that was 323 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:32.639 out there, but you know, I can't tell if you're 324 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:35.360 sarcasm or anything like that because you didn't put here sarcasm. 325 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:42.919 But so across town we go back to silvermin Actually, no, 326 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:45.720 before that, we go to Ben's office and Ben Janet 327 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.360 Ronnie are reviewing the photos of the veterans and it was 328 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.200 all part of the failed super Soldier program that the 329 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.799 Germans were running. Ah super Soldier, who could what do 330 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:55.960 they do? They don't mention Captain America, but they're doing 331 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.960 a super Soldier broom. I like that little tip of the. 332 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:03.919 Hat, and yeah, it does open up potential windows down 333 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:05.519 the line, Like it doesn't have to be a cat 334 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.200 in America. It could just be a Sony Super Soldier 335 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.000 version in the second season. Like it's that get opens 336 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.400 up more possibilities for potential next season. 337 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.039 Yeh. And in corner Lani, they were seeking out this 338 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.759 doctor to excuse me, Cornelani, this doctor Fabe was seeking 339 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:24.160 them out at the hospital. So across town we get Silverman, 340 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:27.519 who questions what Spider the Spider's angle is it was, 341 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.839 and Kat suggests that he's just trying to get get 342 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.359 by like everyone else, and that's when Flint and Lonnie 343 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.200 go into the room. Kat congratulates Flint on his promotion 344 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.200 as Silverman excuses her away to talk business because he 345 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:40.440 can't have women around. 346 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:47.440 And this is right after when he saw her with Ben, 347 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:50.480 right like, yeah, okay, I just want to. 348 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:51.799 Make sure because he's a little giving her a lot 349 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:52.920 of the cold soldier. 350 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.240 And it's just a lot of tension in this moment too. 351 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:57.039 You don't know if the odds we're going to tell 352 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:57.559 on each other. 353 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:00.440 So yeah, So we go to Robbie's heading down to 354 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:02.839 the VA asked about doctor Faber. As doctor Faber comes 355 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.799 to see Robbie, Ben breaks into her office upstairs and 356 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:09.359 Robbie questions the connection of how four of her patients 357 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.240 have ended up having superpowers, and she notes that she's 358 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.640 not at liberty to discuss other patients information with anyone 359 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.440 other than the police, and she excuses herself as she 360 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.599 notes that the men only stated I started displaying the 361 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:25.880 powers after they entered her care, and he suggests that 362 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.039 she is to blame. This triggers her reaction to everything 363 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.039 and that she has done what's done is done for 364 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.279 a reason. And he threws like he's going to publish 365 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:38.519 a story. Upstairs, Ben pulls out several files as he 366 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.319 hears doctor Faber approaching, and Ben puts on an act 367 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.519 and sneaks away, having dropped the files out the window 368 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.440 with his webbing. As he exists, doctor Faber's right hand man, 369 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.319 Ogden recognizes Ben as the man who freed them in France. 370 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.359 She sends Ben, sends him after Ben, but when he 371 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:57.680 reaches them, Robbie and Ben are gone. So I did 372 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:00.119 like that kind of cool thing, as the webbing going 373 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.359 down and bringing down the files. 374 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.359 And him snatching at it try to get it right quick. 375 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.599 I did like that. I like the whole Ronnie running 376 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.160 interference like that was just I don't know, it just worked, 377 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.000 like a lot of stuff just works. I think it's 378 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.240 because we've known the characters for five episodes. 379 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:21.559 The yep Solni Inflant burst into the police precinct and 380 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.680 tossed the officers away until they reached Leyden, the man 381 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:28.000 with the electrical abilities as Silverman, enters the room and 382 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:30.400 to make a deal to have him join his team. 383 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.440 Once freed, Leyden takes pleasure in killing the detectives, who 384 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.160 has been interrogating him with a deadly kiss that electric 385 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:42.400 gets him, killing him instantly. So, you know, I originally 386 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.359 thought this was going to be like Electro, but he 387 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:47.680 calls himself a mega lot. 388 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.559 I think he's made one appearance ever in comics because 389 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.720 I looked him up after watching this and hear in 390 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:55.759 his name, because I thought like, they're going to say 391 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:58.920 Electro eventually, but no, Yeah, he's made one appearance and 392 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:00.920 like a Nonny's comic. 393 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.599 Nip, why not go for the deep polls? So what 394 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.839 we do learn is that the prisoners were injected with 395 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.680 irratated materials and had their genes altered. Ben tells Robbie 396 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:13.599 that the guy who bit him was dying but somehow 397 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:18.279 lived somehow. Ben asked Robbie to tell Kat about Flint 398 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.119 if he's going to die, as he doesn't want her 399 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:23.759 to hear about it from in the paper. He asks 400 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.720 how deep he is of the cat and Ben calls 401 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:28.839