WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:18.039 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.120 All right, Our last hour here on a Thursday afternoon, 4 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:24.000 coming to you a lot from Charlotte at the ACC 5 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.519 basketball tip off is most people have packed up their stuff. 6 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:29.640 They're heading out of here. As you know, the TV 7 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:33.159 coverage has ended. Everybody's done their you know, I think 8 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:35.640 once it hits six o'clock, they're gonna, you know, probably 9 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:37.759 be over our shoulder waiting for us to pack up 10 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:42.520 and leave. But of the four tables that are still 11 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.600 here with people working, the person to my direct left 12 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:47.240 is the one and only cl Brown, who, of course 13 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:49.479 I know you guys are familiar with. He's he covers 14 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:52.359 uf L hoops and actually covers a lot of things 15 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.920 are locally as a columnist for the Courier Journal, but 16 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:56.560 used to be the beat writer. You guys know, cl 17 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.679 He's directly to my left, and I'm telling you I've 18 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:01.520 not seen a more made man at this event in Cel. 19 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:03.320 I mean, he's just sitting here working his ass off. 20 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:05.560 He's got his headphones on, he's typing away doing what 21 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.280 he does. And you know he's not seeking anybody out. 22 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.040 He's hard at work. And you know there's coaches, you know, 23 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.799 walking by Michael Shrewsbury. I mean they want to dapt 24 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:15.599 they want to dap him up. Like usually it's the 25 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.159 coaches or the players or you know, I don't know 26 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.480 the big name media guys that are you know that 27 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.200 everybody's seeking out. But Cel's the star today. So I'm 28 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.920 kind of envious. I mean, Michael Shrewsbury tapping him up, 29 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:33.079 Hubert Davis, uh Seth Greenberg, which Seth Greenberg looks a 30 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:34.680 little different in person than what I was than what 31 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:36.640 I was expecting John. I mean that's I don't mean 32 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:37.760 that as a good thing or a bad thing. 33 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.359 It's just does he look older or younger or what 34 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:40.640 is it? 35 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.200 He looks older, I guess. But I will give him credit, 36 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:46.159 you know, I would assume that, you know, I shouldn't 37 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.159 mean I don't know. Let me find the right way 38 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.920 to say this without sounding like I'm being mean about him. 39 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:54.920 But I'll put it this way. I'm surprised he's carrying 40 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:56.239 all his bags by himself. 41 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:57.200 Okay, that makes. 42 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.200 Sense, And and there's a lot of bags, Like you know, 43 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:01.599 I was just walking up the steps there, I went 44 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:03.120 to grab a red Bull because I'm trying to, you know, 45 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:07.400 finish strong here before I you know, I'm not. I 46 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.240 don't know why, but I'm like really tired. I don't 47 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:09.439 you know. 48 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:11.120 I mean, you just did back to back to back 49 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:12.479 interviews all in the same hour. 50 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:14.560 Yeah, but I mean, you know that should make me tired. 51 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:15.800 But I kind of hit a wall there right, just 52 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:17.080 we got to five. So I went and grabbed a 53 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:20.360 red Bull and on my way up, I'm going I'm 54 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:22.960 going up the steps. He's going down and he's carrying, like, 55 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.400 you know, a backpack looks like two suitcases, one of 56 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.800 them like way bigger than a suitcase, certainly not something 57 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.360 you would just have as like carry on luggage. And 58 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:34.879 you know, he was struggling with it, and he was 59 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:36.240 looking he kind of looked like a badass, to be 60 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.639 honest with you, but yeah, I was just talking to 61 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.800 see during the break just about the overall, you know, 62 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.800 the league itself, and I was telling him because he's 63 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.240 you know, when he when cl left Louisville, he became 64 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.879 a college basketball reporter for for ESPN and then covered 65 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.280 Carolina specifically for quite some time. And really he's one 66 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.120 of the guys who's covered ACC hoops maybe as long 67 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:57.879 as nearly anybody that is here today. We've been lucky 68 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.560 to have him in Louisville now twice. But you know, 69 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.000 I was telling him, like, I know why the ACC 70 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.960 coaches are out here talking about the league needs to 71 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.960 get more respect and that you know, they they should 72 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.599 get the benefit of the doubt more. And I don't 73 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.039 even I mean, I doubt benefit of the doubt is 74 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:15.759 the way they worded it. But you know, that's been 75 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:18.319 a big emphasis today is that, you know, we need 76 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.479 to stand up for the league, and it's mostly coaches, 77 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:22.120 and coaches are going to do that. The commissioner is 78 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.800 going to do that. That that's really, honestly what you're supposed 79 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:24.879 to do. If you are a coach and you've got 80 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:27.479 a platform and you're going to use it for something productive. 81 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.120 It may not work, but it's certainly there's no harm 82 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:33.080 in trying to advocate for your league. Every coach does it. 83 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:35.879 Some people do it, you know, and it's almost it's almost, 84 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.520 you know, a joke, right, Like there are leagues out 85 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.120 there that, like everybody knows, is not the best league 86 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.319 in the country. But each week there's a press conference 87 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.800 and they got a conference matchup. Don't be surprised if 88 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:48.520 more than half the coaches in the league will make 89 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:50.520 a reference that we have we have the toughest conference 90 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:51.759 in the country. We have the toughest, you know, most 91 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.919 competitive league in the country, and like we we all 92 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.360 know it's bs, but it's become such a constant thing 93 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.159 that they say that we really don't bat an eye. 94 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.080 So again, I'm not even really I'm not like surprised 95 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.560 or bothered by coaches and even Phillips advocating for the 96 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.360 league claiming it's better than people give it credit for. 97 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.199 What do we got to do to get it more respect? 98 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:13.919 So I understand because I get it, But to me, 99 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:15.719 it's about like you got to go earn it, you 100 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.879 got to go win. Like I think, outside of Duke 101 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:23.839 in Carolina this year in the ACC, you know, maybe 102 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:26.959 Miami takes a big step forward because you know, they 103 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.720 certainly never lack talent. They they and I think they've 104 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:31.560 got a pretty good coach in Laronega, but they're coming 105 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.240 off of a year where I believe they were honestly 106 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:37.959 maybe the most disappointing team in college basketball. So outside 107 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:41.160 of Duken Carolina. Maybe it's Miami, maybe it's wake Forest, 108 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.680 maybe it's Louisville. I mean, we talked with act. We 109 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.240 haven't talked to him, but we usually talk college basketball 110 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.240 with him. Vin Sweeney, who covers college hoops for Sports Illustrated, 111 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.199 he put his a SEC preview out earlier this week 112 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.480 and he has Lovell at number three, and like, you know, 113 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:55.199 I looked around just to kind of see what the 114 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.399 reaction was, and we'll have him on next week to 115 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.079 kind of he can he can give us a better 116 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.360 answer to this. But like as far as were people 117 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.240 like stunned and bothered that a team that has finished 118 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:07.839 dead last in the ACC, you know, the last couple 119 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.120 of years when the league wasn't great now being a 120 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:12.519 top three team, like, you know, did you get a 121 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:13.800 lot of you I'm gona ask him, did he get 122 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:15.639 a lot of pushback? And it didn't really seem like 123 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.560 it when it comes to, like, you know, the reaction online. 124 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.519 But I bring all this up to say, if you know, 125 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.920 if Louisville or Wake Forest, because I think Steve Forbes 126 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:25.160 has a really good team and I think he's a 127 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.040 really good coach, they probably should have gotten in last year. 128 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.040 To be honest with you, well, I kind of lied 129 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:31.279 to you because if you go back and look like 130 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:32.720 the resume made it to where it was gonna be 131 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.199 tough to put him in. However, you know, I've actually 132 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:39.240 thought the ACC at times has teams that if they 133 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.680 get in the tournament, they have the pieces and the 134 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.759 personnel to beat not anybody, but like they could make 135 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:46.759 the second weekend and I wouldn't be shocked. But it's 136 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.120 not about what you're seiling is It's not about what 137 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:53.759 you can do. It's about what you do. Results ultimately matter. 138 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.639 So whenever these like when people say, and you hear 139 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:59.920 this a lot, you can't tell me if you want 140 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.759 these two teams play that these aren't tournament teams, Well yeah, 141 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:05.439 I can look at the records, look at what they 142 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.480 lost too. Like, it's not about like you, if you 143 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:12.079 were going to field the NCAA tournament based off of 144 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:14.439 what you know a team can do as far as 145 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.519 their ceiling, then why would we have a season. So 146 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:20.519 you got to go win, and you got to go 147 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.560 you gotta be competitive in the non conference. That way 148 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.759 you can somewhat get the benefit of the doubt when 149 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:29.040 you beat up on each other in league play. They 150 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:30.680 used to get the benefit of the doubt because they 151 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.199 used to deserve it. And this is what I was 152 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.319 telling cl There was a time where you could be 153 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.160 fourth or fifth in the ACC but still be a 154 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.519 top twenty, top twenty five team. That was an annual 155 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.399 thing in the ACC. Now, no, it's not. I mean, 156 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.680 we're so far from that as a league, and maybe 157 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.879 you get back there, but I don't know. I mean, 158 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:53.879 first time I came to this event was not that 159 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.000 long ago. We're talking maybe five six years. I think 160 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:58.959 it was six years, which is crazy to say because 161 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:00.759 it was twenty nine. It was the fall of twenty nineteen. 162 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.720 Was the first year I came to this and you know, 163 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.120 many months later Louisville had a really good team and 164 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.759 COVID happened. But I remember as a college basketball junkie myself, 165 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.439 and at that point in my life and in my career, 166 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.680 I've been fortunate to be, you know, to cover some 167 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.680 pretty big events with college hoops, and you know, it's 168 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:20.399 always a lot of fun. But I remember thinking to myself, 169 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:22.600 because it's not just hey, you're on the road to 170 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:26.279 watch Duke and you're seeing coach k or Beheim is 171 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.399 bringing QS into town. But it was the event where 172 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.040 all of the guys were together and you see such 173 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.800 big names, and I remember kind of being not necessarily starstruck, 174 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.759 but just like you know, you're Ruben Elbows. I mean 175 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:39.959 not really, I'm not one of their peers, but you're 176 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.120 you're covering an event that features college basketball coaches that, 177 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.120 for the most part, a handful of them will go 178 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.879 down as the best ever and now you know they're gone, 179 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.319 and asking anybody to be the new coach, k asking 180 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.680 anybody to be the new Roe Williams or even Mike 181 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.959 bray who was larger than life personality and you know, 182 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:59.680 really struggled at the end, but like he was a 183 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.480 guy that you know, Beaheim, I give him a lot 184 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.759 of crap, but Bayham's a big name in college hoops historically, 185 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.600 you know, even Leonard Hamilton, who has kind of fallen 186 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.040 off as of late, but you know, the league has 187 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.000 just you know, it's the one guy that's still left 188 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:16.120 that I thinks, you know, at that time had a 189 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:19.920 presence about him in college hoops that was, you know, elite. 190 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.600 I mean, he's fallen off a cliff and that's Tony Bennett. 191 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.519 So you know, I'm a little worried that the ACC 192 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.439 never gets back to where it once was, and that's 193 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.560 you know, that's a bummer. And you know, we can 194 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.039 still say historically, yeah, we're in the best league ever. 195 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:35.440 I mean, I don't even know if there's any numbers 196 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.200 or facts that back that up. But you know, I 197 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:40.519 don't belie, you know, I don't. I don't think that 198 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:43.480 the ACC is a top three league in college basketball 199 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.840 right now. I mean I really don't. So hopefully, you know, 200 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.600 all this year happened about getting more respect and it 201 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:51.759 being better than anybody gives some credit for. Hopefully this 202 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.000 year the league goes out and proves that, because, to 203 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.159 be honest with you, I mean, if they do that, 204 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:00.200 that's going to help everybody, including Louisville, right, I mean, 205 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:01.919 you want to be able to you know, if you've 206 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.519 got a spotty record, that scenario where you still reviewed 207 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:08.840 as a tournament caliber team is when you you know, yeah, 208 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:11.960 you lost three games in January, but man, they were 209 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.480 all top fifteen teams. And yeah, after you lost two 210 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.080 games in a row to top fifteen teams, then you 211 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.720 turned around and you beat a top twenty team, and 212 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:23.200 you know that has a lot of value. You know, 213 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:25.919 what's happened here lately is that there's so much pressure 214 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.559 when you do play the elite teams. And look, louisval 215 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.240 has not been in the in the mix for a 216 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:32.480 tournament spot in a long time, so trust me, I'm 217 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:35.320 well aware of that. But you know, you don't want 218 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:38.600 to be in a situation to where eighty five percent 219 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.240 of your league games you get no value in winning 220 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:44.039 and if you lose, it's a huge black eye. And 221 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.279 then pressure mounts when you play the elite team and 222 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.000 they may be one of the only two elite teams 223 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:50.480 in your league, and if you don't win, you kind 224 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.480 of feel like, yeah, we finished fifteen and five in 225 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.240 the league, but we're not snipping the tournament. So you know, 226 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.039 as they're tearing down everything and making a lot of noise, 227 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:00.240 I'm sure it's coming across here. 228 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.759 It's really not that. Did you hear it? 229 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:02.960 Though? 230 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.399 Like that there there's more going on than the last 231 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:06.120 couple of hours. 232 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.559 Yeah, so you know that that that's my overall thoughts 233 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:10.720 on you know, the league as we get set for 234 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.960 for college basketball season, and if you missed our conversation 235 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.440 with Coach Kelsey as well as Javon Hadley and Chucky Heburn. 236 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:17.120 That'll be up on the podcast coming up here when 237 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:20.840 the show ends. You know, Uh, Coach Kelsey, you can tell, 238 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.519 you know, I could tell. He's done countless interviews really 239 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:26.279 since he got here. I mean he's I mean, it's 240 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.960 been NonStop. And you know, that's why I asked him initially, like, 241 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.200 do you do you enjoy this? Is it? Is it 242 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.679 something you know you have to do and you know 243 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.080 it's important, but you hate doing it? And he was 244 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:36.360 probably never going to tell me that he hates it, 245 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:37.639 But I know a lot of coaches don't like it. 246 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:39.639 In fact, some coaches probably will tell you, yeah, this 247 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:41.480 this is not something I want to do, but it's 248 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:42.799 what I got to do. But that's why you mentioned 249 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:44.960 he'd rather be at the keeper center because he knows 250 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.720 that the task at hand here. But you know he 251 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.399 could tell that, you know, And again, this is this 252 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.240 is corny to some and I totally get it. But 253 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.840 for what Louisville basketball has has had in recent years, 254 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.440 the fans, you know, being alveless with the previous regime, 255 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.240 you now have a group of players seemingly especially Chucky 256 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:08.679 and Javon and even coach Kelsey that you know, like 257 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.759 love that they're here at Louisville, Like they know what 258 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.960 the program is. And not only are they excited to 259 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.639 go out and compete, and you know, that's why they're here. 260 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.039 That's why they're high level college basketball players and a 261 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.200 high level coaches because their competitors is what they do. 262 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.200 But you know, Louisville means a lot to them already, 263 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.799 and that's you know, it's something you would just expect. 264 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:30.360 But you know, I can just only speak for myself 265 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:32.120 as a fan. It's just nice and refreshing to be 266 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.399 reminded of what the program can be in once was given, 267 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:39.320 what's happened you know in recent years. All Right, it's 268 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.159 coffee and company. Fel By Thorton's here on Sports Talk 269 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.240 seven ninety. We had about forty five minutes left here 270 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.919 before we wrap it up and call it today. We 271 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.759 also chatted earlier in the show with a beat writer 272 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:53.639 who covers Virginia that is Pete Madea. He works for 273 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.399 the Daily Progress. And you know, I kind of been 274 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.600 checked out a little bit as of late. When it 275 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.679 comes well this week, I'll just like the college football 276 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.320 content that I consume as a college football fan. Some 277 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.080 of the podcast I listen to, some of the you know, 278 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.799 some of the writers that I read, and you know, 279 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.039 sometimes just getting you know, getting lost on Twitter, just 280 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.440 you know, enjoying everything that comes with college football on 281 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:17.279 the internet. I've been checked out maybe a little bit, 282 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:18.879 A little bit of his A little bit of it 283 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:20.879 is because I've been here the last two days and 284 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:23.720 I traveled yesterday. But honestly, I think the root of 285 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.879 it is because I'm sad that Louisville's gotten off to 286 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.480 such a disappointing start. They're three and two. The two 287 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.279 teams that have beaten them in the in the last 288 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.840 two weeks are certainly good teams. They're both ranked, but 289 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:35.840 it's not about that. It's just about how they've looked. 290 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.720 And with all that said, it kind of it kind 291 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.879 of made me not realize until just right before the show, 292 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:43.000 and I knew we were going to be bringing on 293 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:44.559 a guest to talk Virginia that they're off to a 294 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:46.279 good start. I can't lie and say they're a really 295 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.320 good team, because I don't believe that they are. But 296 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.240 they're four and one, and they have momentum not only 297 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.240 for them, but you know, they probably look at this 298 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.080 as an opportunity to you know, and I mean, Louisville 299 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.039 is not the team now that everybody thought they'd be 300 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:00.919 before the season started, But let's be real, this would 301 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.080 still be a huge victory for a program like Virginia. 302 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.200 And they've got momentum and Louisville doesn't. So you know, 303 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:12.039 you hear, you hear taking care of business quite a 304 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.639 bit when it comes to sports, and I think it 305 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:17.759 can have a few different meanings. This is a take 306 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.440 care of business game for Louisville, but for you know, 307 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.000 I think more than anything, it's just take care of 308 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.679 business and avoid a third straight loss and don't lose 309 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.240 to Virginia. I would love for them to come out 310 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:34.360 and like look sharp and avoid avoidable mistakes, and I 311 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:35.759 hope they do. And I think if they do that, 312 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.440 then they might win this thing big. But they haven't 313 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.240 been able to do that yet this year, and you know, 314 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.720 I'm just more worried about them losing in any way. Again. 315 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:46.519 If they win and they still look ugly, we'll have 316 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.919 to talk about it. We'll know that the result was 317 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.159 better than losing, but we'll still be probably concerned about 318 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.120 the rest of the season, especially when you got Miami 319 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.000 come into town next week. But I just hope they 320 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.000 you know, take care of business and you know, get 321 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.039 out of there with a win. To you know, it 322 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.759 sounds a little dramatic and a little over the top 323 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.519 to say, get the win to stop the bleeding, but 324 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:08.320 I kind of feel like we're there. If they follow 325 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:12.879 to three and three and Jeff will move to it, 326 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:17.480 would it be six and one in his last seven 327 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.440 games against power four teams. Like that's a nightmare scenario. 328 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.759 It doesn't mean that, you know, people are gonna panic 329 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.840 as if they got to move on from him, that's ridiculous, 330 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.559 But like it, I think you'll see a fan base 331 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.240 probably as not dejected, because there's gonna be interest there, 332 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:34.919 but I think they will be, you know, probably in 333 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:36.720 a place that they really didn't never expect to be 334 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:40.080 in with Jeff, And maybe that was unrealistic. Maybe we 335 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:44.279 should have viewed last year as a special season that 336 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.360 with four plays or five plays throughout the entire year, 337 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:51.399 if they go a different direction, you're not ten and two, 338 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.399 maybe you're six and six. Like I'm not taking credit 339 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.000 away for games they did win, but like I'm trying 340 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.559 to figure out myself because after the Sea You game, 341 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.639 I'm just I'm still puzzled as to how they're they're sloppy, 342 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:10.240 how they are so organized defensively, And you know, that's 343 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.120 just one thing I did not expect this year. I 344 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:13.720 didn't know if they'd go ten and two again or 345 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.559 if they'd win a ton of games. I thought they could, 346 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.200 but to see them be in this position because of 347 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:21.440 the reasons, it's just it's a head scratcher. So in 348 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:23.120 a weird way, I kind of have more nerves for 349 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:26.240 this Virginia game than I've had for for really any game. 350 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:28.960 Not because you know, don't take my nerves as like 351 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:32.039 fear that like I think they're gonna lose, But I 352 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:33.919 guess more than anything, it's because I do know that, 353 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.919 like a loss couldn't be chalked up as some like 354 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:40.799 huge surprise. So I hope that they that they don't, 355 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:43.759 but we'll find out on Saturday at at three thirty. 356 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.600 That's what I do know, all right. So not to 357 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.600 make matters worse here, but I do want to reference 358 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:51.559 this because I'm going to choose to present this statistic 359 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:56.559 to you in a positive way. Not as much as 360 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.519 a oh my gosh, this this pisses me off, because again, 361 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.799 there's two ways to look at it, and I'm gonna 362 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:04.759 try to be positive here, but if you don't hear 363 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:06.600 it and think anything positive about totally get it. So 364 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:11.600 Kelly Ford is a college football analytic guy. I think 365 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:14.759 Kelly's a guy, but there's no face with the profile. 366 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.240 But he's got over twenty thousand followers and he's one 367 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.440 of the many college football guys that has his own formula, 368 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:24.320 you know, big into analytics, and each week he cranks 369 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.600 out just different stats and facts about teams in college 370 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.480 football that I find to be interesting. But what he 371 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.519 has here that features Louisville, again, I'm gonna choose to 372 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:35.039 look at this as a positive and that hey, this 373 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.200 is just a reminder that if they tighten things up 374 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.600 and they stop hurting themselves, not only would they have 375 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:42.440 a better record, they can end up being a really 376 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.480 good team that you know, maybe messes around and wins out. 377 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:47.000 Like I'm not saying that's gonna happen at all. I'm 378 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:49.440 just trying to, you know, trying to find that positive 379 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.600 angle here to look at this. But what was put 380 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:54.879 together at k Ford rankings on Twitter if you guys 381 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:56.639 want to check it out, but it says, what if 382 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:01.799 everyone possession and overtime game had the opposite results the 383 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.680 most does. These are the rankings of most deserving and 384 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.279 these are these are the teams that have had you know, 385 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:13.160 one loss, maybe three losses, you know, maybe you know, 386 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.119 I don't know, maybe heck, maybe five losses. But it 387 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:20.519 literally came down to one play that that gave you 388 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:24.440 that result of an L and Louisville is number one, 389 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.839 and you know, I kind of feel like that does 390 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.119 mean again I'm trying to you know, I guess again 391 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:32.559 to go back to what I said, Hey, if they 392 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.319 just stop, you know, hurting themselves and maybe those maybe 393 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.359 those those plays that are again just one play at 394 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:38.599 the end of the game that doesn't go your way, 395 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.039 that that you know at that point, gives you the result. 396 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:44.319 Right if you didn't you know, you didn't get the 397 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:47.000 h the first down against against Notre Dame, you didn't 398 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.519 get the first town against SMU and you lost. So 399 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:51.279 like if you did and you kept going like yeah, 400 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:54.440 you know, but it's all the factors leading up to 401 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.839 those big moments late that that have you here so 402 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.240 you know, you eliminate a few of those, then maybe 403 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.119 you're not even in a position where you're having to 404 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.559 go forth on fourth down because you're desperate to try 405 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.559 to tie it up and potentially win the game. But 406 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:13.079 you know, it's maddening to know that you know you're 407 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:15.400 losing these games and you're not playing well, but one 408 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.599 mistake here, one mistake there, and you know you could 409 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.039 be five and oh. And if you're five and oh, 410 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.559 I mean, think about how much differently we're talking about 411 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.480 everything right now. And by the way, on this the 412 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:29.680 number two team is Virginia Tech. They are currently three 413 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:34.039 and three, but they you know, they've got three plays 414 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.400 on the year for them in each of those games 415 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:38.720 that they've lost, that that that you know, decided it. 416 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:40.799 So it's not to say that, you know, you're just unlucky, 417 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:42.839 because again, sometimes if you're in a position to where 418 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.400 you you know it's down to that, it's probably because 419 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.400 you did some things along the way they got you there. 420 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:51.880 But man, they just need to win on Saturday. They 421 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:55.039 just need to beat Virginia and hopefully if they do 422 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:56.920 and they look good doing it, we can, you know, 423 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.279 get excited about Miami because you know Miami is is 424 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:02.000 due for a loss. If you watched them in their 425 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.079 last couple of games. I happen to think they still 426 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:05.960 have a lot of talent and maybe they're going to 427 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.079 come off of a buy, re energize knowing that they 428 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:10.799 avoided two losses and need to clean some things up. 429 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.000 So you know, we'll see. But I do know that 430 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:16.640 if Louisville comes out takes an l to Virginia, I 431 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.799 mean a game that is easily the biggest home game 432 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:22.440 on your schedule this year, one that you know you 433 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.039 thought could be a prime time opportunity for you to 434 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.279 make a statement nationally. And I guess that still could happen. 435 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.319 But if you lose to Virginia one and then you 436 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.279 beat Miami would be more. And I mean, by the way, 437 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.680 that would kind of be Jeff Brohm, because I mean 438 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:38.240 a lot of times that Purdue, that's what he would do. 439 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:42.359 But anyways, we'll have our pregame coverage starting at two thirty. 440 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.480 It's louis Football. Louisville Football pregame show persent up up 441 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:48.200 Pellow Windows and Doors of Central Kentucky and Jefferson Animal 442 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:50.319 Hospital will go from two thirty to three thirty and 443 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:51.920 then as soon as the game ends, we will go 444 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.960 live for the Louisville Football Postgame Show presented by alex Arwhite, 445 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:58.400 Lawyer's Suit Distracted Driver dot Com. Before we get to 446 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:00.759 our first break here in the five o'clock let me 447 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:02.559 talk to you really quickly about my friends over at 448 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:05.440 Jefferson Animal Hospital. Their blood bank event is coming up 449 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.880 here in a matter of nine days, folks, so you've 450 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.240 heard me talking about it. We actually had a representative 451 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.480 from Jeffersonnimal Hospital on to talk about it. So if 452 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.759 you've not made arrangements major plans, get them in order, 453 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:17.519 because don't let it sneak up on you to where 454 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.599 you forget and then you've already got something else going on. 455 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:22.920 So keep your Saturday open October nineteenth, between ten am 456 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.400 and two pm. They're gonna have their Pints for palls 457 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:27.160 and people event. It's their very first event. It's the 458 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.839 Jefferson Animal Hospital on outer Loop. You can bring your pets, 459 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.000 bring your family. They're gonna have food and they're gonna 460 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.839 do live demonstrations to show you how pet blood donation works. 461 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.559 And you can honestly donate blood yourself with the American 462 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.599 Red Cross. So it's pines for Pauls and people. October nineteenth, 463 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.039 from ten to two. All pets are welcome, All people 464 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:46.599 are welcome. You can get more info at five oh 465 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:48.880 two nine hundred Pets again the number five O two 466 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.039 nine hundred Pets, or you can visit pet bloodbank dot com. 467 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.880 All right, let's get a quick break out of the way. 468 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:55.759 A lot I want to get into before we before 469 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:59.960 we wrap it up. The reasoning that some Alabama fans 470 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.640 are using as to why they lost to Bandy and 471 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.400 why things are not the same as they were with 472 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.640 Saban makes me laugh in a major way. We'll get 473 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.279 to that. Also, there's a new nil company that is 474 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.240 raising some real red flags and nobody can be surprised. 475 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.240 Speaking of Nick Saban, he's got a chance to do 476 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:19.480 something that I think would be one of the greatest 477 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.519 things ever in college football. Highly unlikely, but I'll tell 478 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:24.400 you what it is. On the other side, as we 479 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.519 keep this thing rolling along again, it's coffee and company. 480 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:28.680 We are fueled by Thornton's ready here on Sports Talk 481 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:33.759 seven ninety. There's just three of us left here. It 482 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.039 looks like, as far as you know, people still broadcasting 483 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:39.559 live they're tearing everything down. And now I went from 484 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:41.680 the beginning of the show feeling as if I just 485 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.279 start yelling like I usually do, I project and I'm 486 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.079 going to be, you know, in the background of everybody 487 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:49.799 else's show. And I've done shows in this situation before, 488 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:52.240 just never with it being you know, with people that 489 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:54.079 close to us. But now I feel like I'm just 490 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.799 going to be yelling and you know, interrupting everybody that's here. 491 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.880 Although they're still tearing stuff down, so it's it's still 492 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:00.759 kind of loud, but we got to thirty minutes left 493 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.000 here on a Thursday afternoon. Appreciate you guys hanging out 494 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:04.799 with us. Don't forget anything that you might have missed today. 495 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:06.359 We'll have it up on the podcast. You can find 496 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.480 it on the IHET radio app or at seven ninety 497 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.359 Louisville dot com or on the Apple podcast app if 498 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:12.920 you want to you want to listen to your podcast 499 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:16.680 that way. All right, So, this this news broke this morning, 500 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.799 got a lot of attention, and most of the attention 501 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:24.599 seems to be negative. But Kendrick Perkins has founded a 502 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:27.400 company that is going to be offering college and high 503 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:30.720 school athletes upfront money in exchange for a portion of 504 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:35.319 their nil earnings. So I mean this is basically like 505 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:39.759 a high interest you know, payday loan. All right, you've 506 00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:44.119 got And by the way, anybody given these dudes meeting 507 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.359 these players upfront money in nil Like if if that's 508 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.119 the game and you got to play the game to 509 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:51.920 get players, I mean, I guess you gotta do what 510 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.519 you got to do. But as a you know, as 511 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.920 an industry that is college sports, like you should all 512 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.839 kind of like the brown Whenever Deshaun Watson got that 513 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.519 contract and Lamar wanted all that money because he just 514 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.039 wanted to make sure he was going to be making 515 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:10.160 more than Deshaun Watson, the NFL collectively said, yeah, we're 516 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.720 not doing that, Like, yeah, we know he got that deal, 517 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:16.079 we know he got that much guaranteed. But that's the Browns. 518 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.359 They're an NFT organization, and nobody else is going to 519 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.960 do that. That's what the college the high level college 520 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:25.839 university college programs. It's not just basketball's not just football, 521 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:27.920 it could be any sport. Like there needs to be 522 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.359 a collective understanding that you can't give everybody all their 523 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:33.319 money up front. And I don't know how many do. 524 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:38.039 But if they do, they're stupid. I mean, because Jeff 525 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:40.039 Walls actually said it last week in their press conference 526 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.720 leading up to the Louisville liive that you know, if you 527 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.119 knew you showed up to work and the pay they 528 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.200 gave you was the last payment you're ever going to 529 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.480 give from him, you're gonna stick around. You're gonna keep 530 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.440 coming to work. And if you do, you're gonna keep 531 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:55.839 working your ass off. No, because the job is essentially 532 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.799 done because you've been paid. And it's still weird to 533 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:03.000 kind of, you know, to see college sports this way, 534 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.440 but that's what it is. It's the new world. You know, 535 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.960 these these these aren't kids out here playing for the 536 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.559 love of the game anymore. I mean some of them are, 537 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:13.880 and I guess some of them and I'm sure a 538 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.119 lot of them love the game, but they've got to 539 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.279 treat themselves. I mean, it's a business now for them. 540 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.519 This is a job, and I you know, I know 541 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.519 it hasn't looked great, you know, since he left, because 542 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:27.480 UNLV has has, you know, I mean, they did take 543 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.519 their first loss, but like I still feel like the 544 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.240 majority of the reaction from that UNLB quarterback that decided 545 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.119 to walk because the money wasn't wasn't what he was 546 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:35.480 told it was going to be. I feel like the 547 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.920 majority of the reaction, maybe not overwhelmingly, but it was negative. 548 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:40.960 And I still think that, like people have yet to 549 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:45.680 really view it in you know, his his position if 550 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.720 he you know, if he was going to I mean, 551 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:51.960 in fact, he probably wouldn't even be playing college football 552 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:53.839 if he couldn't make money because he's not that good. 553 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.160 He's taking advantage of a chance to go play quarterback 554 00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.240 one more year, something he doesn't really view as a job, 555 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:00.960 but it is a job now, and he can go 556 00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.000 make way more money in a year than he'd make 557 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.839 it any entry level position he would get after college. 558 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:09.039 So like, you know, you can't pay him upfront. It's 559 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.279 got to be something that's spread out. But again, these 560 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.640 collectives and whatnot, like they're not a payroll company. This 561 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:19.680 is everybody's just figuring it out as we go, and 562 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.680 it seems like throughout there have been some massive things 563 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.920 that pop up that you realize, oh yeah, this could 564 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.279 be problematic. This is going to be an issue, and 565 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.200 the reason we're here. It all goes back to the NCAA. 566 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.359 Had they been able to wake up and realize what 567 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.039 they were doing was you know, wrong, And you know, 568 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.480 I'm not even talking morally, but Congress legally told him 569 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.559 it's illegal for you to with to keep these student 570 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.480 athletes from being able to make money from who they are, 571 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:48.920 so like it was wrong, they got in trouble for 572 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:53.119 so they settled a billion dollar lawsuit recently, earlier this week. 573 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.759 So you know, this whole thing with Kendrick Perkins's company, 574 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:01.240 I think what it is is actually a another one 575 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:02.799 of the many things that you're like, oh, yeah, these 576 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.000 kids could probably really get taken advantage of here. And 577 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.559 you know the fault of that is because there's not 578 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:13.079 a regulated system in place for how student athletes can 579 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:17.240 be compensated for nil. And I can't tell you that 580 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.400 I've got the perfect plan, but being stubborn and not 581 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.240 adjusting as long as they did, and then having Congress 582 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.960 step in and get involved has been a nightmare for 583 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.160 the NC DOUBLEA. And it's it's actually hilarious at times 584 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:35.400 because you know they'll come out, we've got our new 585 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.240 rules and I don't know our new bylaws when it 586 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.160 comes to this and that, and you know they'll publish 587 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.440 it legitimately within the NC doublea's website and put out 588 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.000 a press release about it and really get it out there, 589 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.000 only for people to read it and have to tell 590 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:51.079 the NC DOUBLEA, Hey, don't you realize what you just 591 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:55.480 put in there? As a bylaw, you're legally not allowed 592 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.319 to do, Like it's against the law for you to 593 00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:58.880 say that they have to do this, and that it's 594 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:02.799 just it's an absolute mess. But anyways, Kendrick Perkins his company, 595 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.279 I don't know the name of it, but yeah, it's 596 00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.960 gonna be called Nilly, you know, hence the name you 597 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.759 know from nil I guess. But it's going to offer 598 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.759 upfront payments ranging from twenty five thousand into the hundreds 599 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:16.759 of thousands, said Perkins. His co founder is a Wall 600 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:22.119 Street veteran, Chris RICKYARTI And and in turn for this 601 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.839 this company, Nilly is going to get exclusive rights to 602 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.759 use and sell their athletes those athletes name, image and likeness, 603 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:31.799 and you know, maybe there'll be some success stories from it. 604 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.960 But it's it. I mean, it's just it looks like 605 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.400 a money grab. I mean, that's that's what it is. 606 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.880 I mean, if you think about, you know, the free market, 607 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:48.839 people seeing something that they realize they could potentially tap 608 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.680 into in some way and make money. I mean, that's 609 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.680 what this is. And I wouldn't, you know, just my 610 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.200 just a guess here. I don't. I don't think it's 611 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:01.359 gonna end up being super successful, but who knows. I mean, 612 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.880 it also is wild because you see Kendrick Perkins on ESPN. 613 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:08.039 Not every day, but he's on there talking NBA, and 614 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.799 you know, I kind of think he's funny, Like I 615 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.440 actually find him to be a pretty you know, not 616 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.240 in me. I wouldn't say he's a character. Put it 617 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.640 that way. You know, sometimes he makes good points, but 618 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.000 sometimes he you know, can't what was the name of 619 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:20.960 that player he couldn't say on Draft night that was 620 00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.960 so hilarious. Played for Arkansas, Miles Moody and he called 621 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.519 him Mamudama. He called him like eight different names. But 622 00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:30.160 he works for ESPN. And this story was broke by 623 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.759 Dan Murphy of ESPN, and it you know, it's it's 624 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:35.640 not a hit piece, but it's not a flattering piece. 625 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.480 But like one of your own, you know, coworkers at 626 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:39.480 ESPN is writing an article about one of your business 627 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.319 ventures and including quotes from UH Financial experts who claimed 628 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:44.799 this is a this is a red flag, and this 629 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.079 is not going to be good. So I mean, one 630 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.279 day maybe these new and il stories and situations won't 631 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.640 be as interesting. I still find him interesting, but more 632 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:56.599 so just because it's a reminder that it's like it's 633 00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.519 a circus, all right. So Alabama losing the Andy still 634 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:01.960 is something that when I say it out loud, I 635 00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.200 can't believe it happened. But it did. And as you 636 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:08.880 could expect, Alabama fans are really, you know, struggling with that. 637 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.319 I'm sure some of them have decided to, you know, realize, hey, 638 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.000 this is just start first. This is this is where 639 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:16.039 it felt real. We lost Nick Saban. We don't have 640 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.359 Nick Saban, and no matter who we get, even if 641 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.400 he's great, he's not gonna be Nick Saban. You'd like 642 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:21.759 to be able to learn that, not with a loss 643 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.759 of Andy. That's really embarrassing. But that's what happened. But 644 00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.920 one of the factors that Bama fans and even one 645 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.400 of their own writers, I say their own writers. I mean, 646 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.960 he doesn't work for Bama, but he's a beat writer 647 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.119 I believe working for al dot com. I'll get the 648 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.759 specifics because he wrote a piece on it, and he 649 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.960 referenced fans making these complaints. I think somebody had called 650 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.319 I don't know if they called the Coaches Show, but 651 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:50.799 Alabama fans are bothered by Kaylin de Boor's wardrobe. Have 652 00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.519 you heard this, John, I've not heard this. No, they 653 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.839 they you know, let me see if I can find 654 00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.000 the uh. It all started with this article that came 655 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:01.839 let me find the right let me find the actual 656 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.680 piece here. But he wore like a like a he 657 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.640 wore T shirt during the Vandy game and it wasn't like, 658 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.599 you know, just a you know, cotton T shirt, but 659 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:11.319 it was like one of those probably one of those 660 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.640 Nike like draft fit, but it was a T shirt 661 00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.400 and you know, that's not something you typically see a 662 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.480 coach where and Alabama fans were bothered by it, and 663 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.480 it so much so that you know, he had Kaylen 664 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:27.720 Debora had to talk about his outfits because al dot 665 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.319 Com wrote wrote a lengthy piece about how it could 666 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.200 be a little thing. However, it could also be a 667 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.079 sign that he doesn't have, you know, the attention to 668 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.079 detail and he's not as polished. And I'm paraphrasing here, 669 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.839 but like that's why college football is great, right. I 670 00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:48.880 mean these stories where fans who who their teams, their 671 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.920 team loses a game, they start thinking that the coach's 672 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.960 wardrobe might be, you know, a sign as to why 673 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.000 the team is struggling. I mean, it's it's it's hilarious. 674 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:02.720 I mean, I don't know if I've ever really noticed 675 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.799 what a coach wears on the sideline in football. 676 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.160 The only thing that ever stands out to me is 677 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.079 is PJ. Fleck from Minnesota wearing those those ties and stuff. 678 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.680 Yeah, and and what I don't know, does he wear 679 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.039 this every week? Like I'm gonna have to look up 680 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.400 you know, pictures of of if Kaylin Gore before he 681 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.200 you know, before this Bandy game, because there's a picture 682 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.880 of him. He wore a Alabama golf looking polo to 683 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.599 his press conference earlier this week, and he looks like 684 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.559 he looks uncomfortable, like you know, you ever, you know, 685 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:35.960 like like for example, like I don't ever wear hats. 686 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:37.640 If I wore a hat into the studio one day 687 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.000 to John, like most people wearing hats, it's normal. You've 688 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.319 never seen me in a hat. You would say, oh 689 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.880 my god, you look like a you look like a pedophile. 690 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.400 Call the cops, like you know, hopefully you wouldn't say that, 691 00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.599 but like I peep, I'm not kidding you. Undefeated at 692 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.920 this people tell me, why don't you wear hats? I look, 693 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.680 I look insane. Oh come on now, you everybody wears 694 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.480 hats and can't be that bad. Yeah, and then I'll 695 00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:57.880 put the hat on and they say take it off 696 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.920 now like it's it's it's scary, Tom. So you know 697 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.960 if me, you know, I don't follow Bama that closely, 698 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.039 certainly didn't follow him at Washington, but I am curious 699 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.559 if like he's wearing a polo for the first time 700 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.519 ever because he realizes that the fans are worried about 701 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.759 what he wears. If you win, nobody cares what you wear. 702 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:18.160 I mean, that's just the truth and him losing the 703 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.680 vand he had nothing to do with his polo. Yeah, 704 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.880 you're right. There's you know, PJ Flex, somebody that clearly 705 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.599 wears a much different type of uniform than than any 706 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.359 not uniform. But you know, game day, a game day 707 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:30.480 fit with with his. 708 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.000 It's like a suit, right, it's like a like a 709 00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.960 vest with a Yes, it's very weird. 710 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.759 What it's like old school football guy. 711 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.240 But he's also not old school in any way, shape 712 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.720 or form, which is interesting. 713 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.559 So I'm looking here and he looks like I mean, 714 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.480 I'm looking at pictures of him when he first got 715 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.480 to Bama, and he's got like a like a pullover on. 716 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.240 He wore polos at Washington. It looks like when with 717 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.200 the quarters hip at Washington as well. But yeah, I'll 718 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.519 be honest with you, looking at all of these, I mean, 719 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.640 if you just search his name and Google and go 720 00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.559 to images, you know, the majority of what he's wearing 721 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.319 is honestly, it's like a hoodie pull like a like 722 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.960 a light. And then I do see the occasional polo, 723 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.200 but not during games. It's like at a presser, So 724 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:18.759 maybe he's a polo at a presser T shirt, you know. 725 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:22.279 And again like these are things no one notices unless 726 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.319 you lose, and only Alabama fans would notice because you know, 727 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.119 they they they're they're trying to figure out how they 728 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.319 could ever lose to a team like Vanderbilt. All right, 729 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.559 real quick, Nick Saban, the guy who you know stepped 730 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.519 down and retired which led to Kaylyn I. But we're 731 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:40.200 getting the job at at at at Alabama. I don't 732 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.920 think he'll ever come back and coach again, because you know, 733 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.759 he had it. I mean, I just don't know. Maybe 734 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.519 he ends up being the guy that realizes like he's 735 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.799 a football coach to his at his core and that's 736 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.559 all he's ever gonna want to do until he dies. 737 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.400 I don't think he's enjoying it, and I think he's 738 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:56.079 doing a really good job with the media coverage as well. 739 00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.680 I really enjoy him on game day. I mean he's 740 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.240 not you know, doesn't have like super big personality, but 741 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.279 you know, he's been a good addition to where I 742 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:06.599 feel like that show. For me, it's never really I 743 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.280 wouldn't say it's bad, but it's just never really been 744 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.480 my cup of tea. But he makes it to where 745 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:11.719 like I do. In fact, I want to make sure 746 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.679 I catch a little bit of it because you know, 747 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.239 when you're talking about one of the best or maybe 748 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.800 the best college football coach of all time, he's somebody 749 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.880 that I do want to hear insight and his thoughts 750 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.239 into certain matchups and whatnot. But anyways, if he ever 751 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.079 does want to coach again, let me tell you where 752 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.760 he needs to coach. His alma mater, you know where 753 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:31.000 he went to school, John, I do not Kent State, oh. 754 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.239 Man, And Kent State's a terrible program too. 755 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.719 Oh dude, they're worse than terrible. Kent State is currently 756 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:41.360 dead last in yards per game on both offense and defense. 757 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.119 Hear me out. They are the worst team in the 758 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.719 country on offense and they're the worst team in the 759 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.960 country on defense. Think about that. I mean, I feel 760 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.360 like that's kind of hard to do. So, I mean, 761 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.159 if he really wanted a challenge he didn't need, by 762 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.440 the way, he could go there and he would, he 763 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.199 would give them And I mean it'd be deon all 764 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.039 over again if Nick Saban did that, which he wouldn't. 765 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.440 And again I'm just throwing some silly hypothetical thing that'll 766 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.039 never happen. But like maybe Saban does get does get 767 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.360 bored and he you know, wants a challenge, and because 768 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.239 you know, he I think he went out on top 769 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.039 of Bama despite you know, not winning a championship in 770 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.800 the in the recent years. But hey, he's won enough 771 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.159 of them, and not winning a championship recently for Saban 772 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:26.960 is like you know, two years not not winning one, 773 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.920 So it's unlikely but he would give them so much attention, 774 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:31.519 and if he really wanted to challenge, it would be 775 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.519 a school that he played for, that he cares about, 776 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.519 and he certainly I mean I guarantee he believes in 777 00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.559 his ability, so it won't happen. But it would be 778 00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:42.280 like if you are if you are Kent State right now, 779 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:47.320 and you know you're asked to talk about your program historically, currently, whatever, 780 00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.199 the only thing you could probably just say right now 781 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.599 that'll give you any bit of credibilities. Well, Nick Saban 782 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.119 went here, right, I mean, like to see a team 783 00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.679 that bad, I mean, good god, they're they're only they're 784 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.800 only putting up two hundred and eighteen yards per game 785 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.960 on offense and they're getting up five hundred and eighty 786 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.400 two yards per game on defense. I mean, have they 787 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.320 fired the coach yet? This has second year. 788 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.599 He won one game last year and he's obviously completely 789 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.239 defeated this year zero to five. 790 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.800 Yeah, have they lost Okay? Have they lost any like 791 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:18.599 bad teams? 792 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:20.599 Not aware of who they've lost to? 793 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.039 Okay, because I'm because I'm I'm thinking like maybe he 794 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.239 does get another year, but I feel like, I yeah, yeah, 795 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.519 they're I mean, maybe you keep him around in hopes 796 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.159 that he breaks through for for a third year. But 797 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:34.719 I mean, if you go from one, oh, dude, they lost. 798 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.920 They lost to Saint Francis, a school on Pennsylvania team. 799 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.760 Oh yeah, and they lost to pitt by a bunch. 800 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.679 They got beat seventy one to zero. They lost back 801 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.239 to These are both top ten teams, so it's a 802 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.880 little unfair to use these use these as examples, but 803 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.119 this is how you end up dead last in both 804 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.880 because you played Penn State and Tennessee and back to 805 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.079 back weeks. You lost one game seventy one and nothing. 806 00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.960 You lost the other one fifty six to nothing. So 807 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.039 those numbers are clearly inflating the you know the stats. However, 808 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:02.920 you still lost to it. I mean, I don't even 809 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.960 have seen Francis as FCS. I think they might be 810 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.440 like D two or something. Man, yikes, all right, quick 811 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.079 break will come back on the other side. One of 812 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.000 the things you heard Pat Kelsey say about recruiting, he 813 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.119 can't talk about recruits specifically, but he did say, we're 814 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:18.119 really we're in on the guys we really really like, 815 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.400 and one of those guys trimmed his list today. It's 816 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.079 one of the best players in the country, and Louisvill's 817 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:23.280 in the mix will tell you who that is. On 818 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.320 the other side. As we wrap this thing up, it's 819 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.360 coffee and company feel by Thornton's right here on Sports 820 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.880 Talk seven ninety. Just a few minutes left here before 821 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:33.599 we have to end the show. But I do want 822 00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:35.679 to tell you some good recruiting news. And I can 823 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.320 certainly tell that there's not as much interest in high 824 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.519 school recruiting as there ones was, and I think most 825 00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.119 of it is just due to you knowing that you 826 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.320 can go build a great roster every year and you 827 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:48.920 really don't even have to use the high school ranks. 828 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.519 You can just do it in the portal. But also 829 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.840 Louisville hasn't really been hasn't been active in the high 830 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:55.960 school recruiting scene as far as like a big time 831 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.280 player in quite some time. And actually when they did 832 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.079 with Kenny, I mean actually just confirmed like how big 833 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:03.480 of a mess everything else was, because I think they 834 00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.159 brought in some decent talent last year, but this guy's 835 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.159 much better than decent. Shelton Henderson a five star Top 836 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.519 twenty player. He has eliminated three schools from his list 837 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.039 of six in Louisville is now one of those three. 838 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.880 So he's from Texas. He visited unofficially, I think, or 839 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:20.320 I think he might have been an official visit a 840 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.440 few weeks ago. Maybe was I think might have been 841 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.039 right around when the football season started. So Lowivell has 842 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.199 been on him since April, right after Pat got the job. 843 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.440 And you know they're gonna have some some you know, 844 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.719 some some tough competition here to to to essentially land 845 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.639 this kid. I mean, he's still considering Duke in Texas 846 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.599 and he's from Texas, and they've obviously got a hell, 847 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.079 you know, a whole lot to sell there and then 848 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.719 obviously Duke is Duke. They seemingly get any recruit they want. 849 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.320 But to see that you're one of three, you know, 850 00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:50.480 it's good sign. He's a six to six wing and 851 00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:53.360 he's really really good and would be a big time edition. 852 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.880 So fingers crossed. All right, one more time before we 853 00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.159 wrap it up, let's talk about Jefferson Animal Hospital. Keep 854 00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.400 him in mind, folks, when it comes to your pets, 855 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:02.599 you want them to be safe, right, you want them 856 00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:04.360 to be taken care of. And if your if your pet, 857 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.400 you know, isn't showing you any signs of anything bothering them, 858 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.719 your cat or your dog. You know, that may make 859 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.159 you think that everything's a okay, but it's always worth 860 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.039 getting them checked out, getting them looked at, just to 861 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.480 check up, just to see how things are. That way, 862 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.400 you don't have to end up in a situation where 863 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.000 he waited too long and maybe you found something way 864 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.559 late in the process, and you know it could be devastating. 865 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:28.760 So again, Jefferson Animal Hospital. They've been around for forty 866 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.760 four years. They're open twenty four hours a day, three 867 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.119 hundred and sixty five days a year, even on Christmas. 868 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.400 They've got a doctor on site in case of an emergency. 869 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.039 So again, keep them in mind. It's Jefferson Animal Hospital. 870 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.760 You can check them out online at Jefferson Vets dot 871 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.639 com or give him a call at five O two 872 00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:42.519 nine hundred. 873 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:43.039 Pets. 874 00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.320 All right, that'll do it for us. We're out of here. 875 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.079 I'm gonna pack up head of the airport and hopefully 876 00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.599 not have any airport issues Fingers crossed travels. Yep, thank 877 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.360 you sir, and then I'll be back at it tomorrow. 878 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.880 John's gonna be down the hall with Terry, and I 879 00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.280 think Austin's going to be in so I'm sure I'll 880 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.800 see you tomorrow, John, But of course you'll be with 881 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.920 us in spirit, right, just say absolutely. So I'm not sad, 882 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:05.840 I'll be jealous. 883 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.559 You're all gonna be having more fun over here. We 884 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.159 got to talk about news. 885 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.519 Yeah, and it's not fun, right. We want to talk 886 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.079 about nonsense. That's what this show is. We pride ourselves 887 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.320 in all the nonsense. But again, thanks to everybody for 888 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.960 hanging out today. Back at it in Louisville tomorrow right 889 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.599 here on Sports Talk seven ninety