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Speaker 2: All right, Our last hour here on a Thursday afternoon,
Speaker 2: coming to you a lot from Charlotte at the ACC
Speaker 2: basketball tip off is most people have packed up their stuff.
Speaker 2: They're heading out of here. As you know, the TV
Speaker 2: coverage has ended. Everybody's done their you know, I think
Speaker 2: once it hits six o'clock, they're gonna, you know, probably
Speaker 2: be over our shoulder waiting for us to pack up
Speaker 2: and leave. But of the four tables that are still
Speaker 2: here with people working, the person to my direct left
Speaker 2: is the one and only cl Brown, who, of course
Speaker 2: I know you guys are familiar with. He's he covers
Speaker 2: uf L hoops and actually covers a lot of things
Speaker 2: are locally as a columnist for the Courier Journal, but
Speaker 2: used to be the beat writer. You guys know, cl
Speaker 2: He's directly to my left, and I'm telling you I've
Speaker 2: not seen a more made man at this event in Cel.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just sitting here working his ass off.
Speaker 2: He's got his headphones on, he's typing away doing what
Speaker 2: he does. And you know he's not seeking anybody out.
Speaker 2: He's hard at work. And you know there's coaches, you know,
Speaker 2: walking by Michael Shrewsbury. I mean they want to dapt
Speaker 2: they want to dap him up. Like usually it's the
Speaker 2: coaches or the players or you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: the big name media guys that are you know that
Speaker 2: everybody's seeking out. But Cel's the star today. So I'm
Speaker 2: kind of envious. I mean, Michael Shrewsbury tapping him up,
Speaker 2: Hubert Davis, uh Seth Greenberg, which Seth Greenberg looks a
Speaker 2: little different in person than what I was than what
Speaker 2: I was expecting John. I mean that's I don't mean
Speaker 2: that as a good thing or a bad thing.
Speaker 3: It's just does he look older or younger or what
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 2: He looks older, I guess. But I will give him credit,
Speaker 2: you know, I would assume that, you know, I shouldn't
Speaker 2: mean I don't know. Let me find the right way
Speaker 2: to say this without sounding like I'm being mean about him.
Speaker 2: But I'll put it this way. I'm surprised he's carrying
Speaker 2: all his bags by himself.
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes.
Speaker 2: Sense, And and there's a lot of bags, Like you know,
Speaker 2: I was just walking up the steps there, I went
Speaker 2: to grab a red Bull because I'm trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: finish strong here before I you know, I'm not. I
Speaker 2: don't know why, but I'm like really tired. I don't
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you just did back to back to back
Speaker 3: interviews all in the same hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, you know that should make me tired.
Speaker 2: But I kind of hit a wall there right, just
Speaker 2: we got to five. So I went and grabbed a
Speaker 2: red Bull and on my way up, I'm going I'm
Speaker 2: going up the steps. He's going down and he's carrying, like,
Speaker 2: you know, a backpack looks like two suitcases, one of
Speaker 2: them like way bigger than a suitcase, certainly not something
Speaker 2: you would just have as like carry on luggage. And
Speaker 2: you know, he was struggling with it, and he was
Speaker 2: looking he kind of looked like a badass, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, but yeah, I was just talking to
Speaker 2: see during the break just about the overall, you know,
Speaker 2: the league itself, and I was telling him because he's
Speaker 2: you know, when he when cl left Louisville, he became
Speaker 2: a college basketball reporter for for ESPN and then covered
Speaker 2: Carolina specifically for quite some time. And really he's one
Speaker 2: of the guys who's covered ACC hoops maybe as long
Speaker 2: as nearly anybody that is here today. We've been lucky
Speaker 2: to have him in Louisville now twice. But you know,
Speaker 2: I was telling him, like, I know why the ACC
Speaker 2: coaches are out here talking about the league needs to
Speaker 2: get more respect and that you know, they they should
Speaker 2: get the benefit of the doubt more. And I don't
Speaker 2: even I mean, I doubt benefit of the doubt is
Speaker 2: the way they worded it. But you know, that's been
Speaker 2: a big emphasis today is that, you know, we need
Speaker 2: to stand up for the league, and it's mostly coaches,
Speaker 2: and coaches are going to do that. The commissioner is
Speaker 2: going to do that. That that's really, honestly what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do. If you are a coach and you've got
Speaker 2: a platform and you're going to use it for something productive.
Speaker 2: It may not work, but it's certainly there's no harm
Speaker 2: in trying to advocate for your league. Every coach does it.
Speaker 2: Some people do it, you know, and it's almost it's almost,
Speaker 2: you know, a joke, right, Like there are leagues out
Speaker 2: there that, like everybody knows, is not the best league
Speaker 2: in the country. But each week there's a press conference
Speaker 2: and they got a conference matchup. Don't be surprised if
Speaker 2: more than half the coaches in the league will make
Speaker 2: a reference that we have we have the toughest conference
Speaker 2: in the country. We have the toughest, you know, most
Speaker 2: competitive league in the country, and like we we all
Speaker 2: know it's bs, but it's become such a constant thing
Speaker 2: that they say that we really don't bat an eye.
Speaker 2: So again, I'm not even really I'm not like surprised
Speaker 2: or bothered by coaches and even Phillips advocating for the
Speaker 2: league claiming it's better than people give it credit for.
Speaker 2: What do we got to do to get it more respect?
Speaker 2: So I understand because I get it, But to me,
Speaker 2: it's about like you got to go earn it, you
Speaker 2: got to go win. Like I think, outside of Duke
Speaker 2: in Carolina this year in the ACC, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: Miami takes a big step forward because you know, they
Speaker 2: certainly never lack talent. They they and I think they've
Speaker 2: got a pretty good coach in Laronega, but they're coming
Speaker 2: off of a year where I believe they were honestly
Speaker 2: maybe the most disappointing team in college basketball. So outside
Speaker 2: of Duken Carolina. Maybe it's Miami, maybe it's wake Forest,
Speaker 2: maybe it's Louisville. I mean, we talked with act. We
Speaker 2: haven't talked to him, but we usually talk college basketball
Speaker 2: with him. Vin Sweeney, who covers college hoops for Sports Illustrated,
Speaker 2: he put his a SEC preview out earlier this week
Speaker 2: and he has Lovell at number three, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: I looked around just to kind of see what the
Speaker 2: reaction was, and we'll have him on next week to
Speaker 2: kind of he can he can give us a better
Speaker 2: answer to this. But like as far as were people
Speaker 2: like stunned and bothered that a team that has finished
Speaker 2: dead last in the ACC, you know, the last couple
Speaker 2: of years when the league wasn't great now being a
Speaker 2: top three team, like, you know, did you get a
Speaker 2: lot of you I'm gona ask him, did he get
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback? And it didn't really seem like
Speaker 2: it when it comes to, like, you know, the reaction online.
Speaker 2: But I bring all this up to say, if you know,
Speaker 2: if Louisville or Wake Forest, because I think Steve Forbes
Speaker 2: has a really good team and I think he's a
Speaker 2: really good coach, they probably should have gotten in last year.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, well, I kind of lied
Speaker 2: to you because if you go back and look like
Speaker 2: the resume made it to where it was gonna be
Speaker 2: tough to put him in. However, you know, I've actually
Speaker 2: thought the ACC at times has teams that if they
Speaker 2: get in the tournament, they have the pieces and the
Speaker 2: personnel to beat not anybody, but like they could make
Speaker 2: the second weekend and I wouldn't be shocked. But it's
Speaker 2: not about what you're seiling is It's not about what
Speaker 2: you can do. It's about what you do. Results ultimately matter.
Speaker 2: So whenever these like when people say, and you hear
Speaker 2: this a lot, you can't tell me if you want
Speaker 2: these two teams play that these aren't tournament teams, Well yeah,
Speaker 2: I can look at the records, look at what they
Speaker 2: lost too. Like, it's not about like you, if you
Speaker 2: were going to field the NCAA tournament based off of
Speaker 2: what you know a team can do as far as
Speaker 2: their ceiling, then why would we have a season. So
Speaker 2: you got to go win, and you got to go
Speaker 2: you gotta be competitive in the non conference. That way
Speaker 2: you can somewhat get the benefit of the doubt when
Speaker 2: you beat up on each other in league play. They
Speaker 2: used to get the benefit of the doubt because they
Speaker 2: used to deserve it. And this is what I was
Speaker 2: telling cl There was a time where you could be
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth in the ACC but still be a
Speaker 2: top twenty, top twenty five team. That was an annual
Speaker 2: thing in the ACC. Now, no, it's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're so far from that as a league, and maybe
Speaker 2: you get back there, but I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: first time I came to this event was not that
Speaker 2: long ago. We're talking maybe five six years. I think
Speaker 2: it was six years, which is crazy to say because
Speaker 2: it was twenty nine. It was the fall of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Was the first year I came to this and you know,
Speaker 2: many months later Louisville had a really good team and
Speaker 2: COVID happened. But I remember as a college basketball junkie myself,
Speaker 2: and at that point in my life and in my career,
Speaker 2: I've been fortunate to be, you know, to cover some
Speaker 2: pretty big events with college hoops, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: always a lot of fun. But I remember thinking to myself,
Speaker 2: because it's not just hey, you're on the road to
Speaker 2: watch Duke and you're seeing coach k or Beheim is
Speaker 2: bringing QS into town. But it was the event where
Speaker 2: all of the guys were together and you see such
Speaker 2: big names, and I remember kind of being not necessarily starstruck,
Speaker 2: but just like you know, you're Ruben Elbows. I mean
Speaker 2: not really, I'm not one of their peers, but you're
Speaker 2: you're covering an event that features college basketball coaches that,
Speaker 2: for the most part, a handful of them will go
Speaker 2: down as the best ever and now you know they're gone,
Speaker 2: and asking anybody to be the new coach, k asking
Speaker 2: anybody to be the new Roe Williams or even Mike
Speaker 2: bray who was larger than life personality and you know,
Speaker 2: really struggled at the end, but like he was a
Speaker 2: guy that you know, Beaheim, I give him a lot
Speaker 2: of crap, but Bayham's a big name in college hoops historically,
Speaker 2: you know, even Leonard Hamilton, who has kind of fallen
Speaker 2: off as of late, but you know, the league has
Speaker 2: just you know, it's the one guy that's still left
Speaker 2: that I thinks, you know, at that time had a
Speaker 2: presence about him in college hoops that was, you know, elite.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's fallen off a cliff and that's Tony Bennett.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm a little worried that the ACC
Speaker 2: never gets back to where it once was, and that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's a bummer. And you know, we can
Speaker 2: still say historically, yeah, we're in the best league ever.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if there's any numbers
Speaker 2: or facts that back that up. But you know, I
Speaker 2: don't belie, you know, I don't. I don't think that
Speaker 2: the ACC is a top three league in college basketball
Speaker 2: right now. I mean I really don't. So hopefully, you know,
Speaker 2: all this year happened about getting more respect and it
Speaker 2: being better than anybody gives some credit for. Hopefully this
Speaker 2: year the league goes out and proves that, because, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I mean, if they do that,
Speaker 2: that's going to help everybody, including Louisville, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: you want to be able to you know, if you've
Speaker 2: got a spotty record, that scenario where you still reviewed
Speaker 2: as a tournament caliber team is when you you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you lost three games in January, but man, they were
Speaker 2: all top fifteen teams. And yeah, after you lost two
Speaker 2: games in a row to top fifteen teams, then you
Speaker 2: turned around and you beat a top twenty team, and
Speaker 2: you know that has a lot of value. You know,
Speaker 2: what's happened here lately is that there's so much pressure
Speaker 2: when you do play the elite teams. And look, louisval
Speaker 2: has not been in the in the mix for a
Speaker 2: tournament spot in a long time, so trust me, I'm
Speaker 2: well aware of that. But you know, you don't want
Speaker 2: to be in a situation to where eighty five percent
Speaker 2: of your league games you get no value in winning
Speaker 2: and if you lose, it's a huge black eye. And
Speaker 2: then pressure mounts when you play the elite team and
Speaker 2: they may be one of the only two elite teams
Speaker 2: in your league, and if you don't win, you kind
Speaker 2: of feel like, yeah, we finished fifteen and five in
Speaker 2: the league, but we're not snipping the tournament. So you know,
Speaker 2: as they're tearing down everything and making a lot of noise,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's coming across here.
Speaker 3: It's really not that. Did you hear it?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: Like that there there's more going on than the last
Speaker 3: couple of hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that that that's my overall thoughts
Speaker 2: on you know, the league as we get set for
Speaker 2: for college basketball season, and if you missed our conversation
Speaker 2: with Coach Kelsey as well as Javon Hadley and Chucky Heburn.
Speaker 2: That'll be up on the podcast coming up here when
Speaker 2: the show ends. You know, Uh, Coach Kelsey, you can tell,
Speaker 2: you know, I could tell. He's done countless interviews really
Speaker 2: since he got here. I mean he's I mean, it's
Speaker 2: been NonStop. And you know, that's why I asked him initially, like,
Speaker 2: do you do you enjoy this? Is it? Is it
Speaker 2: something you know you have to do and you know
Speaker 2: it's important, but you hate doing it? And he was
Speaker 2: probably never going to tell me that he hates it,
Speaker 2: But I know a lot of coaches don't like it.
Speaker 2: In fact, some coaches probably will tell you, yeah, this
Speaker 2: this is not something I want to do, but it's
Speaker 2: what I got to do. But that's why you mentioned
Speaker 2: he'd rather be at the keeper center because he knows
Speaker 2: that the task at hand here. But you know he
Speaker 2: could tell that, you know, And again, this is this
Speaker 2: is corny to some and I totally get it. But
Speaker 2: for what Louisville basketball has has had in recent years,
Speaker 2: the fans, you know, being alveless with the previous regime,
Speaker 2: you now have a group of players seemingly especially Chucky
Speaker 2: and Javon and even coach Kelsey that you know, like
Speaker 2: love that they're here at Louisville, Like they know what
Speaker 2: the program is. And not only are they excited to
Speaker 2: go out and compete, and you know, that's why they're here.
Speaker 2: That's why they're high level college basketball players and a
Speaker 2: high level coaches because their competitors is what they do.
Speaker 2: But you know, Louisville means a lot to them already,
Speaker 2: and that's you know, it's something you would just expect.
Speaker 2: But you know, I can just only speak for myself
Speaker 2: as a fan. It's just nice and refreshing to be
Speaker 2: reminded of what the program can be in once was given,
Speaker 2: what's happened you know in recent years. All Right, it's
Speaker 2: coffee and company. Fel By Thorton's here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety. We had about forty five minutes left here
Speaker 2: before we wrap it up and call it today. We
Speaker 2: also chatted earlier in the show with a beat writer
Speaker 2: who covers Virginia that is Pete Madea. He works for
Speaker 2: the Daily Progress. And you know, I kind of been
Speaker 2: checked out a little bit as of late. When it
Speaker 2: comes well this week, I'll just like the college football
Speaker 2: content that I consume as a college football fan. Some
Speaker 2: of the podcast I listen to, some of the you know,
Speaker 2: some of the writers that I read, and you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes just getting you know, getting lost on Twitter, just
Speaker 2: you know, enjoying everything that comes with college football on
Speaker 2: the internet. I've been checked out maybe a little bit,
Speaker 2: A little bit of his A little bit of it
Speaker 2: is because I've been here the last two days and
Speaker 2: I traveled yesterday. But honestly, I think the root of
Speaker 2: it is because I'm sad that Louisville's gotten off to
Speaker 2: such a disappointing start. They're three and two. The two
Speaker 2: teams that have beaten them in the in the last
Speaker 2: two weeks are certainly good teams. They're both ranked, but
Speaker 2: it's not about that. It's just about how they've looked.
Speaker 2: And with all that said, it kind of it kind
Speaker 2: of made me not realize until just right before the show,
Speaker 2: and I knew we were going to be bringing on
Speaker 2: a guest to talk Virginia that they're off to a
Speaker 2: good start. I can't lie and say they're a really
Speaker 2: good team, because I don't believe that they are. But
Speaker 2: they're four and one, and they have momentum not only
Speaker 2: for them, but you know, they probably look at this
Speaker 2: as an opportunity to you know, and I mean, Louisville
Speaker 2: is not the team now that everybody thought they'd be
Speaker 2: before the season started, But let's be real, this would
Speaker 2: still be a huge victory for a program like Virginia.
Speaker 2: And they've got momentum and Louisville doesn't. So you know,
Speaker 2: you hear, you hear taking care of business quite a
Speaker 2: bit when it comes to sports, and I think it
Speaker 2: can have a few different meanings. This is a take
Speaker 2: care of business game for Louisville, but for you know,
Speaker 2: I think more than anything, it's just take care of
Speaker 2: business and avoid a third straight loss and don't lose
Speaker 2: to Virginia. I would love for them to come out
Speaker 2: and like look sharp and avoid avoidable mistakes, and I
Speaker 2: hope they do. And I think if they do that,
Speaker 2: then they might win this thing big. But they haven't
Speaker 2: been able to do that yet this year, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just more worried about them losing in any way. Again.
Speaker 2: If they win and they still look ugly, we'll have
Speaker 2: to talk about it. We'll know that the result was
Speaker 2: better than losing, but we'll still be probably concerned about
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, especially when you got Miami
Speaker 2: come into town next week. But I just hope they
Speaker 2: you know, take care of business and you know, get
Speaker 2: out of there with a win. To you know, it
Speaker 2: sounds a little dramatic and a little over the top
Speaker 2: to say, get the win to stop the bleeding, but
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like we're there. If they follow
Speaker 2: to three and three and Jeff will move to it,
Speaker 2: would it be six and one in his last seven
Speaker 2: games against power four teams. Like that's a nightmare scenario.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that, you know, people are gonna panic
Speaker 2: as if they got to move on from him, that's ridiculous,
Speaker 2: But like it, I think you'll see a fan base
Speaker 2: probably as not dejected, because there's gonna be interest there,
Speaker 2: but I think they will be, you know, probably in
Speaker 2: a place that they really didn't never expect to be
Speaker 2: in with Jeff, And maybe that was unrealistic. Maybe we
Speaker 2: should have viewed last year as a special season that
Speaker 2: with four plays or five plays throughout the entire year,
Speaker 2: if they go a different direction, you're not ten and two,
Speaker 2: maybe you're six and six. Like I'm not taking credit
Speaker 2: away for games they did win, but like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out myself because after the Sea You game,
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm still puzzled as to how they're they're sloppy,
Speaker 2: how they are so organized defensively, And you know, that's
Speaker 2: just one thing I did not expect this year. I
Speaker 2: didn't know if they'd go ten and two again or
Speaker 2: if they'd win a ton of games. I thought they could,
Speaker 2: but to see them be in this position because of
Speaker 2: the reasons, it's just it's a head scratcher. So in
Speaker 2: a weird way, I kind of have more nerves for
Speaker 2: this Virginia game than I've had for for really any game.
Speaker 2: Not because you know, don't take my nerves as like
Speaker 2: fear that like I think they're gonna lose, But I
Speaker 2: guess more than anything, it's because I do know that,
Speaker 2: like a loss couldn't be chalked up as some like
Speaker 2: huge surprise. So I hope that they that they don't,
Speaker 2: but we'll find out on Saturday at at three thirty.
Speaker 2: That's what I do know, all right. So not to
Speaker 2: make matters worse here, but I do want to reference
Speaker 2: this because I'm going to choose to present this statistic
Speaker 2: to you in a positive way. Not as much as
Speaker 2: a oh my gosh, this this pisses me off, because again,
Speaker 2: there's two ways to look at it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: try to be positive here, but if you don't hear
Speaker 2: it and think anything positive about totally get it. So
Speaker 2: Kelly Ford is a college football analytic guy. I think
Speaker 2: Kelly's a guy, but there's no face with the profile.
Speaker 2: But he's got over twenty thousand followers and he's one
Speaker 2: of the many college football guys that has his own formula,
Speaker 2: you know, big into analytics, and each week he cranks
Speaker 2: out just different stats and facts about teams in college
Speaker 2: football that I find to be interesting. But what he
Speaker 2: has here that features Louisville, again, I'm gonna choose to
Speaker 2: look at this as a positive and that hey, this
Speaker 2: is just a reminder that if they tighten things up
Speaker 2: and they stop hurting themselves, not only would they have
Speaker 2: a better record, they can end up being a really
Speaker 2: good team that you know, maybe messes around and wins out.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying that's gonna happen at all. I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to, you know, trying to find that positive
Speaker 2: angle here to look at this. But what was put
Speaker 2: together at k Ford rankings on Twitter if you guys
Speaker 2: want to check it out, but it says, what if
Speaker 2: everyone possession and overtime game had the opposite results the
Speaker 2: most does. These are the rankings of most deserving and
Speaker 2: these are these are the teams that have had you know,
Speaker 2: one loss, maybe three losses, you know, maybe you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe heck, maybe five losses. But it
Speaker 2: literally came down to one play that that gave you
Speaker 2: that result of an L and Louisville is number one,
Speaker 2: and you know, I kind of feel like that does
Speaker 2: mean again I'm trying to you know, I guess again
Speaker 2: to go back to what I said, Hey, if they
Speaker 2: just stop, you know, hurting themselves and maybe those maybe
Speaker 2: those those plays that are again just one play at
Speaker 2: the end of the game that doesn't go your way,
Speaker 2: that that you know at that point, gives you the result.
Speaker 2: Right if you didn't you know, you didn't get the
Speaker 2: h the first down against against Notre Dame, you didn't
Speaker 2: get the first town against SMU and you lost. So
Speaker 2: like if you did and you kept going like yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's all the factors leading up to
Speaker 2: those big moments late that that have you here so
Speaker 2: you know, you eliminate a few of those, then maybe
Speaker 2: you're not even in a position where you're having to
Speaker 2: go forth on fourth down because you're desperate to try
Speaker 2: to tie it up and potentially win the game. But
Speaker 2: you know, it's maddening to know that you know you're
Speaker 2: losing these games and you're not playing well, but one
Speaker 2: mistake here, one mistake there, and you know you could
Speaker 2: be five and oh. And if you're five and oh,
Speaker 2: I mean, think about how much differently we're talking about
Speaker 2: everything right now. And by the way, on this the
Speaker 2: number two team is Virginia Tech. They are currently three
Speaker 2: and three, but they you know, they've got three plays
Speaker 2: on the year for them in each of those games
Speaker 2: that they've lost, that that that you know, decided it.
Speaker 2: So it's not to say that, you know, you're just unlucky,
Speaker 2: because again, sometimes if you're in a position to where
Speaker 2: you you know it's down to that, it's probably because
Speaker 2: you did some things along the way they got you there.
Speaker 2: But man, they just need to win on Saturday. They
Speaker 2: just need to beat Virginia and hopefully if they do
Speaker 2: and they look good doing it, we can, you know,
Speaker 2: get excited about Miami because you know Miami is is
Speaker 2: due for a loss. If you watched them in their
Speaker 2: last couple of games. I happen to think they still
Speaker 2: have a lot of talent and maybe they're going to
Speaker 2: come off of a buy, re energize knowing that they
Speaker 2: avoided two losses and need to clean some things up.
Speaker 2: So you know, we'll see. But I do know that
Speaker 2: if Louisville comes out takes an l to Virginia, I
Speaker 2: mean a game that is easily the biggest home game
Speaker 2: on your schedule this year, one that you know you
Speaker 2: thought could be a prime time opportunity for you to
Speaker 2: make a statement nationally. And I guess that still could happen.
Speaker 2: But if you lose to Virginia one and then you
Speaker 2: beat Miami would be more. And I mean, by the way,
Speaker 2: that would kind of be Jeff Brohm, because I mean
Speaker 2: a lot of times that Purdue, that's what he would do.
Speaker 2: But anyways, we'll have our pregame coverage starting at two thirty.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get a quick break out of the way.
Speaker 2: A lot I want to get into before we before
Speaker 2: we wrap it up. The reasoning that some Alabama fans
Speaker 2: are using as to why they lost to Bandy and
Speaker 2: why things are not the same as they were with
Speaker 2: Saban makes me laugh in a major way. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that. Also, there's a new nil company that is
Speaker 2: raising some real red flags and nobody can be surprised.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Nick Saban, he's got a chance to do
Speaker 2: something that I think would be one of the greatest
Speaker 2: things ever in college football. Highly unlikely, but I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what it is. On the other side, as we
Speaker 2: keep this thing rolling along again, it's coffee and company.
Speaker 2: We are fueled by Thornton's ready here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety. There's just three of us left here. It
Speaker 2: looks like, as far as you know, people still broadcasting
Speaker 2: live they're tearing everything down. And now I went from
Speaker 2: the beginning of the show feeling as if I just
Speaker 2: start yelling like I usually do, I project and I'm
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, in the background of everybody
Speaker 2: else's show. And I've done shows in this situation before,
Speaker 2: just never with it being you know, with people that
Speaker 2: close to us. But now I feel like I'm just
Speaker 2: going to be yelling and you know, interrupting everybody that's here.
Speaker 2: Although they're still tearing stuff down, so it's it's still
Speaker 2: kind of loud, but we got to thirty minutes left
Speaker 2: here on a Thursday afternoon. Appreciate you guys hanging out
Speaker 2: with us. Don't forget anything that you might have missed today.
Speaker 2: We'll have it up on the podcast. You can find
Speaker 2: it on the IHET radio app or at seven ninety
Speaker 2: Louisville dot com or on the Apple podcast app if
Speaker 2: you want to you want to listen to your podcast
Speaker 2: that way. All right, So, this this news broke this morning,
Speaker 2: got a lot of attention, and most of the attention
Speaker 2: seems to be negative. But Kendrick Perkins has founded a
Speaker 2: company that is going to be offering college and high
Speaker 2: school athletes upfront money in exchange for a portion of
Speaker 2: their nil earnings. So I mean this is basically like
Speaker 2: a high interest you know, payday loan. All right, you've
Speaker 2: got And by the way, anybody given these dudes meeting
Speaker 2: these players upfront money in nil Like if if that's
Speaker 2: the game and you got to play the game to
Speaker 2: get players, I mean, I guess you gotta do what
Speaker 2: you got to do. But as a you know, as
Speaker 2: an industry that is college sports, like you should all
Speaker 2: kind of like the brown Whenever Deshaun Watson got that
Speaker 2: contract and Lamar wanted all that money because he just
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure he was going to be making
Speaker 2: more than Deshaun Watson, the NFL collectively said, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: not doing that, Like, yeah, we know he got that deal,
Speaker 2: we know he got that much guaranteed. But that's the Browns.
Speaker 2: They're an NFT organization, and nobody else is going to
Speaker 2: do that. That's what the college the high level college
Speaker 2: university college programs. It's not just basketball's not just football,
Speaker 2: it could be any sport. Like there needs to be
Speaker 2: a collective understanding that you can't give everybody all their
Speaker 2: money up front. And I don't know how many do.
Speaker 2: But if they do, they're stupid. I mean, because Jeff
Speaker 2: Walls actually said it last week in their press conference
Speaker 2: leading up to the Louisville liive that you know, if you
Speaker 2: knew you showed up to work and the pay they
Speaker 2: gave you was the last payment you're ever going to
Speaker 2: give from him, you're gonna stick around. You're gonna keep
Speaker 2: coming to work. And if you do, you're gonna keep
Speaker 2: working your ass off. No, because the job is essentially
Speaker 2: done because you've been paid. And it's still weird to
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, to see college sports this way,
Speaker 2: but that's what it is. It's the new world. You know,
Speaker 2: these these these aren't kids out here playing for the
Speaker 2: love of the game anymore. I mean some of them are,
Speaker 2: and I guess some of them and I'm sure a
Speaker 2: lot of them love the game, but they've got to
Speaker 2: treat themselves. I mean, it's a business now for them.
Speaker 2: This is a job, and I you know, I know
Speaker 2: it hasn't looked great, you know, since he left, because
Speaker 2: UNLV has has, you know, I mean, they did take
Speaker 2: their first loss, but like I still feel like the
Speaker 2: majority of the reaction from that UNLB quarterback that decided
Speaker 2: to walk because the money wasn't wasn't what he was
Speaker 2: told it was going to be. I feel like the
Speaker 2: majority of the reaction, maybe not overwhelmingly, but it was negative.
Speaker 2: And I still think that, like people have yet to
Speaker 2: really view it in you know, his his position if
Speaker 2: he you know, if he was going to I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, he probably wouldn't even be playing college football
Speaker 2: if he couldn't make money because he's not that good.
Speaker 2: He's taking advantage of a chance to go play quarterback
Speaker 2: one more year, something he doesn't really view as a job,
Speaker 2: but it is a job now, and he can go
Speaker 2: make way more money in a year than he'd make
Speaker 2: it any entry level position he would get after college.
Speaker 2: So like, you know, you can't pay him upfront. It's
Speaker 2: got to be something that's spread out. But again, these
Speaker 2: collectives and whatnot, like they're not a payroll company. This
Speaker 2: is everybody's just figuring it out as we go, and
Speaker 2: it seems like throughout there have been some massive things
Speaker 2: that pop up that you realize, oh yeah, this could
Speaker 2: be problematic. This is going to be an issue, and
Speaker 2: the reason we're here. It all goes back to the NCAA.
Speaker 2: Had they been able to wake up and realize what
Speaker 2: they were doing was you know, wrong, And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking morally, but Congress legally told him
Speaker 2: it's illegal for you to with to keep these student
Speaker 2: athletes from being able to make money from who they are,
Speaker 2: so like it was wrong, they got in trouble for
Speaker 2: so they settled a billion dollar lawsuit recently, earlier this week.
Speaker 2: So you know, this whole thing with Kendrick Perkins's company,
Speaker 2: I think what it is is actually a another one
Speaker 2: of the many things that you're like, oh, yeah, these
Speaker 2: kids could probably really get taken advantage of here. And
Speaker 2: you know the fault of that is because there's not
Speaker 2: a regulated system in place for how student athletes can
Speaker 2: be compensated for nil. And I can't tell you that
Speaker 2: I've got the perfect plan, but being stubborn and not
Speaker 2: adjusting as long as they did, and then having Congress
Speaker 2: step in and get involved has been a nightmare for
Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA. And it's it's actually hilarious at times
Speaker 2: because you know they'll come out, we've got our new
Speaker 2: rules and I don't know our new bylaws when it
Speaker 2: comes to this and that, and you know they'll publish
Speaker 2: it legitimately within the NC doublea's website and put out
Speaker 2: a press release about it and really get it out there,
Speaker 2: only for people to read it and have to tell
Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA, Hey, don't you realize what you just
Speaker 2: put in there? As a bylaw, you're legally not allowed
Speaker 2: to do, Like it's against the law for you to
Speaker 2: say that they have to do this, and that it's
Speaker 2: just it's an absolute mess. But anyways, Kendrick Perkins his company,
Speaker 2: I don't know the name of it, but yeah, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be called Nilly, you know, hence the name you
Speaker 2: know from nil I guess. But it's going to offer
Speaker 2: upfront payments ranging from twenty five thousand into the hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands, said Perkins. His co founder is a Wall
Speaker 2: Street veteran, Chris RICKYARTI And and in turn for this
Speaker 2: this company, Nilly is going to get exclusive rights to
Speaker 2: use and sell their athletes those athletes name, image and likeness,
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe there'll be some success stories from it.
Speaker 2: But it's it. I mean, it's just it looks like
Speaker 2: a money grab. I mean, that's that's what it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about, you know, the free market,
Speaker 2: people seeing something that they realize they could potentially tap
Speaker 2: into in some way and make money. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what this is. And I wouldn't, you know, just my
Speaker 2: just a guess here. I don't. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: gonna end up being super successful, but who knows. I mean,
Speaker 2: it also is wild because you see Kendrick Perkins on ESPN.
Speaker 2: Not every day, but he's on there talking NBA, and
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of think he's funny, Like I
Speaker 2: actually find him to be a pretty you know, not
Speaker 2: in me. I wouldn't say he's a character. Put it
Speaker 2: that way. You know, sometimes he makes good points, but
Speaker 2: sometimes he you know, can't what was the name of
Speaker 2: that player he couldn't say on Draft night that was
Speaker 2: so hilarious. Played for Arkansas, Miles Moody and he called
Speaker 2: him Mamudama. He called him like eight different names. But
Speaker 2: he works for ESPN. And this story was broke by
Speaker 2: Dan Murphy of ESPN, and it you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: not a hit piece, but it's not a flattering piece.
Speaker 2: But like one of your own, you know, coworkers at
Speaker 2: ESPN is writing an article about one of your business
Speaker 2: ventures and including quotes from UH Financial experts who claimed
Speaker 2: this is a this is a red flag, and this
Speaker 2: is not going to be good. So I mean, one
Speaker 2: day maybe these new and il stories and situations won't
Speaker 2: be as interesting. I still find him interesting, but more
Speaker 2: so just because it's a reminder that it's like it's
Speaker 2: a circus, all right. So Alabama losing the Andy still
Speaker 2: is something that when I say it out loud, I
Speaker 2: can't believe it happened. But it did. And as you
Speaker 2: could expect, Alabama fans are really, you know, struggling with that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of them have decided to, you know, realize, hey,
Speaker 2: this is just start first. This is this is where
Speaker 2: it felt real. We lost Nick Saban. We don't have
Speaker 2: Nick Saban, and no matter who we get, even if
Speaker 2: he's great, he's not gonna be Nick Saban. You'd like
Speaker 2: to be able to learn that, not with a loss
Speaker 2: of Andy. That's really embarrassing. But that's what happened. But
Speaker 2: one of the factors that Bama fans and even one
Speaker 2: of their own writers, I say their own writers. I mean,
Speaker 2: he doesn't work for Bama, but he's a beat writer
Speaker 2: I believe working for al dot com. I'll get the
Speaker 2: specifics because he wrote a piece on it, and he
Speaker 2: referenced fans making these complaints. I think somebody had called
Speaker 2: I don't know if they called the Coaches Show, but
Speaker 2: Alabama fans are bothered by Kaylin de Boor's wardrobe. Have
Speaker 2: you heard this, John, I've not heard this. No, they
Speaker 2: they you know, let me see if I can find
Speaker 2: the uh. It all started with this article that came
Speaker 2: let me find the right let me find the actual
Speaker 2: piece here. But he wore like a like a he
Speaker 2: wore T shirt during the Vandy game and it wasn't like,
Speaker 2: you know, just a you know, cotton T shirt, but
Speaker 2: it was like one of those probably one of those
Speaker 2: Nike like draft fit, but it was a T shirt
Speaker 2: and you know, that's not something you typically see a
Speaker 2: coach where and Alabama fans were bothered by it, and
Speaker 2: it so much so that you know, he had Kaylen
Speaker 2: Debora had to talk about his outfits because al dot
Speaker 2: Com wrote wrote a lengthy piece about how it could
Speaker 2: be a little thing. However, it could also be a
Speaker 2: sign that he doesn't have, you know, the attention to
Speaker 2: detail and he's not as polished. And I'm paraphrasing here,
Speaker 2: but like that's why college football is great, right. I
Speaker 2: mean these stories where fans who who their teams, their
Speaker 2: team loses a game, they start thinking that the coach's
Speaker 2: wardrobe might be, you know, a sign as to why
Speaker 2: the team is struggling. I mean, it's it's it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I've ever really noticed
Speaker 2: what a coach wears on the sideline in football.
Speaker 3: The only thing that ever stands out to me is
Speaker 3: is PJ. Fleck from Minnesota wearing those those ties and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and what I don't know, does he wear
Speaker 2: this every week? Like I'm gonna have to look up
Speaker 2: you know, pictures of of if Kaylin Gore before he
Speaker 2: you know, before this Bandy game, because there's a picture
Speaker 2: of him. He wore a Alabama golf looking polo to
Speaker 2: his press conference earlier this week, and he looks like
Speaker 2: he looks uncomfortable, like you know, you ever, you know,
Speaker 2: like like for example, like I don't ever wear hats.
Speaker 2: If I wore a hat into the studio one day
Speaker 2: to John, like most people wearing hats, it's normal. You've
Speaker 2: never seen me in a hat. You would say, oh
Speaker 2: my god, you look like a you look like a pedophile.
Speaker 2: Call the cops, like you know, hopefully you wouldn't say that,
Speaker 2: but like I peep, I'm not kidding you. Undefeated at
Speaker 2: this people tell me, why don't you wear hats? I look,
Speaker 2: I look insane. Oh come on now, you everybody wears
Speaker 2: hats and can't be that bad. Yeah, and then I'll
Speaker 2: put the hat on and they say take it off
Speaker 2: now like it's it's it's scary, Tom. So you know
Speaker 2: if me, you know, I don't follow Bama that closely,
Speaker 2: certainly didn't follow him at Washington, but I am curious
Speaker 2: if like he's wearing a polo for the first time
Speaker 2: ever because he realizes that the fans are worried about
Speaker 2: what he wears. If you win, nobody cares what you wear.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the truth and him losing the
Speaker 2: vand he had nothing to do with his polo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. There's you know, PJ Flex, somebody that clearly
Speaker 2: wears a much different type of uniform than than any
Speaker 2: not uniform. But you know, game day, a game day
Speaker 2: fit with with his.
Speaker 3: It's like a suit, right, it's like a like a
Speaker 3: vest with a Yes, it's very weird.
Speaker 2: What it's like old school football guy.
Speaker 3: But he's also not old school in any way, shape
Speaker 3: or form, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking here and he looks like I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at pictures of him when he first got
Speaker 2: to Bama, and he's got like a like a pullover on.
Speaker 2: He wore polos at Washington. It looks like when with
Speaker 2: the quarters hip at Washington as well. But yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: be honest with you, looking at all of these, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you just search his name and Google and go
Speaker 2: to images, you know, the majority of what he's wearing
Speaker 2: is honestly, it's like a hoodie pull like a like
Speaker 2: a light. And then I do see the occasional polo,
Speaker 2: but not during games. It's like at a presser, So
Speaker 2: maybe he's a polo at a presser T shirt, you know.
Speaker 2: And again like these are things no one notices unless
Speaker 2: you lose, and only Alabama fans would notice because you know,
Speaker 2: they they they're they're trying to figure out how they
Speaker 2: could ever lose to a team like Vanderbilt. All right,
Speaker 2: real quick, Nick Saban, the guy who you know stepped
Speaker 2: down and retired which led to Kaylyn I. But we're
Speaker 2: getting the job at at at at Alabama. I don't
Speaker 2: think he'll ever come back and coach again, because you know,
Speaker 2: he had it. I mean, I just don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: he ends up being the guy that realizes like he's
Speaker 2: a football coach to his at his core and that's
Speaker 2: all he's ever gonna want to do until he dies.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's enjoying it, and I think he's
Speaker 2: doing a really good job with the media coverage as well.
Speaker 2: I really enjoy him on game day. I mean he's
Speaker 2: not you know, doesn't have like super big personality, but
Speaker 2: you know, he's been a good addition to where I
Speaker 2: feel like that show. For me, it's never really I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's bad, but it's just never really been
Speaker 2: my cup of tea. But he makes it to where
Speaker 2: like I do. In fact, I want to make sure
Speaker 2: I catch a little bit of it because you know,
Speaker 2: when you're talking about one of the best or maybe
Speaker 2: the best college football coach of all time, he's somebody
Speaker 2: that I do want to hear insight and his thoughts
Speaker 2: into certain matchups and whatnot. But anyways, if he ever
Speaker 2: does want to coach again, let me tell you where
Speaker 2: he needs to coach. His alma mater, you know where
Speaker 2: he went to school, John, I do not Kent State, oh.
Speaker 3: Man, And Kent State's a terrible program too.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, they're worse than terrible. Kent State is currently
Speaker 2: dead last in yards per game on both offense and defense.
Speaker 2: Hear me out. They are the worst team in the
Speaker 2: country on offense and they're the worst team in the
Speaker 2: country on defense. Think about that. I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like that's kind of hard to do. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: if he really wanted a challenge he didn't need, by
Speaker 2: the way, he could go there and he would, he
Speaker 2: would give them And I mean it'd be deon all
Speaker 2: over again if Nick Saban did that, which he wouldn't.
Speaker 2: And again I'm just throwing some silly hypothetical thing that'll
Speaker 2: never happen. But like maybe Saban does get does get
Speaker 2: bored and he you know, wants a challenge, and because
Speaker 2: you know, he I think he went out on top
Speaker 2: of Bama despite you know, not winning a championship in
Speaker 2: the in the recent years. But hey, he's won enough
Speaker 2: of them, and not winning a championship recently for Saban
Speaker 2: is like you know, two years not not winning one,
Speaker 2: So it's unlikely but he would give them so much attention,
Speaker 2: and if he really wanted to challenge, it would be
Speaker 2: a school that he played for, that he cares about,
Speaker 2: and he certainly I mean I guarantee he believes in
Speaker 2: his ability, so it won't happen. But it would be
Speaker 2: like if you are if you are Kent State right now,
Speaker 2: and you know you're asked to talk about your program historically, currently, whatever,
Speaker 2: the only thing you could probably just say right now
Speaker 2: that'll give you any bit of credibilities. Well, Nick Saban
Speaker 2: went here, right, I mean, like to see a team
Speaker 2: that bad, I mean, good god, they're they're only they're
Speaker 2: only putting up two hundred and eighteen yards per game
Speaker 2: on offense and they're getting up five hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: two yards per game on defense. I mean, have they
Speaker 2: fired the coach yet? This has second year.
Speaker 3: He won one game last year and he's obviously completely
Speaker 3: defeated this year zero to five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have they lost Okay? Have they lost any like
Speaker 2: bad teams?
Speaker 3: Not aware of who they've lost to?
Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm because I'm I'm thinking like maybe he
Speaker 2: does get another year, but I feel like, I yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're I mean, maybe you keep him around in hopes
Speaker 2: that he breaks through for for a third year. But
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go from one, oh, dude, they lost.
Speaker 2: They lost to Saint Francis, a school on Pennsylvania team.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they lost to pitt by a bunch.
Speaker 2: They got beat seventy one to zero. They lost back
Speaker 2: to These are both top ten teams, so it's a
Speaker 2: little unfair to use these use these as examples, but
Speaker 2: this is how you end up dead last in both
Speaker 2: because you played Penn State and Tennessee and back to
Speaker 2: back weeks. You lost one game seventy one and nothing.
Speaker 2: You lost the other one fifty six to nothing. So
Speaker 2: those numbers are clearly inflating the you know the stats. However,
Speaker 2: you still lost to it. I mean, I don't even
Speaker 2: have seen Francis as FCS. I think they might be
Speaker 2: like D two or something. Man, yikes, all right, quick
Speaker 2: break will come back on the other side. One of
Speaker 2: the things you heard Pat Kelsey say about recruiting, he
Speaker 2: can't talk about recruits specifically, but he did say, we're
Speaker 2: really we're in on the guys we really really like,
Speaker 2: and one of those guys trimmed his list today. It's
Speaker 2: one of the best players in the country, and Louisvill's
Speaker 2: in the mix will tell you who that is. On
Speaker 2: the other side. As we wrap this thing up, it's
Speaker 2: coffee and company feel by Thornton's right here on Sports
Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety. Just a few minutes left here before
Speaker 2: we have to end the show. But I do want
Speaker 2: to tell you some good recruiting news. And I can
Speaker 2: certainly tell that there's not as much interest in high
Speaker 2: school recruiting as there ones was, and I think most
Speaker 2: of it is just due to you knowing that you
Speaker 2: can go build a great roster every year and you
Speaker 2: really don't even have to use the high school ranks.
Speaker 2: You can just do it in the portal. But also
Speaker 2: Louisville hasn't really been hasn't been active in the high
Speaker 2: school recruiting scene as far as like a big time
Speaker 2: player in quite some time. And actually when they did
Speaker 2: with Kenny, I mean actually just confirmed like how big
Speaker 2: of a mess everything else was, because I think they
Speaker 2: brought in some decent talent last year, but this guy's
Speaker 2: much better than decent. Shelton Henderson a five star Top
Speaker 2: twenty player. He has eliminated three schools from his list
Speaker 2: of six in Louisville is now one of those three.
Speaker 2: So he's from Texas. He visited unofficially, I think, or
Speaker 2: I think he might have been an official visit a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Maybe was I think might have been
Speaker 2: right around when the football season started. So Lowivell has
Speaker 2: been on him since April, right after Pat got the job.
Speaker 2: And you know they're gonna have some some you know,
Speaker 2: some some tough competition here to to to essentially land
Speaker 2: this kid. I mean, he's still considering Duke in Texas
Speaker 2: and he's from Texas, and they've obviously got a hell,
Speaker 2: you know, a whole lot to sell there and then
Speaker 2: obviously Duke is Duke. They seemingly get any recruit they want.
Speaker 2: But to see that you're one of three, you know,
Speaker 2: it's good sign. He's a six to six wing and
Speaker 2: he's really really good and would be a big time edition.
Speaker 2: So fingers crossed. All right, one more time before we
Speaker 2: wrap it up, let's talk about Jefferson Animal Hospital. Keep
Speaker 2: him in mind, folks, when it comes to your pets,
Speaker 2: you want them to be safe, right, you want them
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Speaker 2: you know, isn't showing you any signs of anything bothering them,
Speaker 2: your cat or your dog. You know, that may make
Speaker 2: you think that everything's a okay, but it's always worth
Speaker 2: getting them checked out, getting them looked at, just to
Speaker 2: check up, just to see how things are. That way,
Speaker 2: you don't have to end up in a situation where
Speaker 2: he waited too long and maybe you found something way
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Speaker 1: Pets.
Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for us. We're out of here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pack up head of the airport and hopefully
Speaker 2: not have any airport issues Fingers crossed travels. Yep, thank
Speaker 2: you sir, and then I'll be back at it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: John's gonna be down the hall with Terry, and I
Speaker 2: think Austin's going to be in so I'm sure I'll
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow, John, But of course you'll be with
Speaker 2: us in spirit, right, just say absolutely. So I'm not sad,
Speaker 2: I'll be jealous.
Speaker 3: You're all gonna be having more fun over here. We
Speaker 3: got to talk about news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not fun, right. We want to talk
Speaker 2: about nonsense. That's what this show is. We pride ourselves
Speaker 2: in all the nonsense. But again, thanks to everybody for
Speaker 2: hanging out today. Back at it in Louisville tomorrow right
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven ninety