1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans Welcome for Season three, 2 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:18,320 episode twenty three of Clips and Dip. The Clippers are 3 00:00:18,359 --> 00:00:22,679 two and one. They look unstoppable after this opening three games. 4 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:24,600 We're gonna talk about all the great defense we saw 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,839 in the back to back wins. We're gonna talk about 6 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:30,280 what to expect from yet another back to back. Like 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,759 I said, I am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Osland 8 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:37,439 and Will Updyke Fellas. How are you doing after that 9 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:41,520 fantastic Clippers weekend that we had. Will, We'll start with you. 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: You're asking now now you care again about how we're. 11 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Gonna Yeah, I was out after game one previously, Previously 12 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:49,479 you did not. 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Now, man, I'm feeling great. 14 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:54,479 Speaker 3: Like, look, you know what I've been saying, I've been 15 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:57,159 banging the drum. I've been banging the drum off season. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,280 It's looking very real. It's looking like some green moves. 17 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:02,679 Speaker 1: There we go. 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just extrapolate this over the restless season, follow. 19 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: The multiply it by whatever. We're good. Also, is that 20 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:16,280 an og Jake Burns Clipper shirt? Hell? Yeah, that's what 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,239 Rondo was on the team. That's awesome. Adam, how are 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,319 you feeling after that weekend. 23 00:01:24,239 --> 00:01:28,719 Speaker 4: Uh good, but I still have many concerns about this team. 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,439 Speaker 1: We'll talk about them. 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,599 Speaker 2: That's fair, Childish year. 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it could still be our year even with 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,079 these concerns. 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean sure, ceeding doesn't matter, as we were told, 29 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:45,480 So the initial eleventh you're still in. We're gonna talk 30 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:47,840 about some good and some bad that happened over the weekend. 31 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:51,599 To all the new watchers and listeners, Welcome to the pod. 32 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:54,120 You can find us on YouTube if you want to 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,879 watch the whole thing at YouTube dot com, slash at 34 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:59,159 Clippers podcast, you can find us anywhere you listen to podcasts. 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,239 Let's just get into it, I think, I mean the 36 00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:07,480 biggest takeaway from this weekend for me personally was the 37 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,960 defense still feels real. We held both We held the 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Warriors and the Nuggets to one hundred and four points, 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,479 which is pretty difficult in the modern NBA. And the 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,879 rebounding has been real. They're top ten and pretty much 41 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:25,240 every rebounding statistic except for offensive rebounds, where they're eleventh. Yeah, 42 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:27,280 what do we think, Adam will start with you, what 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,319 do we think that we saw happen in These back 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,759 to backs can carry over? To the rest of the season. 45 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the defensive effort is stellar, it's incredible. I 46 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:42,919 can't see them letting up with whatever they have in 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,759 the tank. I am worried about how much they will 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,120 have because it's draining to have to play this hard 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,360 defensively and it's only three games. I just want to 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,800 point out that it was the first back to back, 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,800 it was the third game of the season, and by 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,400 the the end of the fourth quarter, to get him 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,159 more rest, Derek Jones Junior was bringing the ball up 54 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:08,360 the floor instead of James Harden. He was on the court, 55 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:12,840 but he was playing off ball, which turnovers ensued. He 56 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:14,680 threw it into the back court out of a time out, 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,919 looking for a beach zubots like. That's how desperate they 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,599 were to try to figure out how to make sure 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,159 James Harden has enough left to finish this game. And 60 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:27,520 it's game three, so I'm not trying to sound alarm bells. 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,520 They're two and one, they can go three and one. 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,240 They're taken on Portland, they can go four. 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: Did he have three twenty point double doubles like in 64 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:36,960 that stretch, I don't know, man, Like. 65 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about I'm talking about Derek Jones Junior 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,639 bringing the ball up the court instead of James Harden. 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't like it. Like James had three huge games too. 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,039 Speaker 4: He's shooting thirty eight percent. He shot like two of 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,879 twelve from three. It is obviously taking something out of him. 70 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,360 My man. Yeah, it's been tough. 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,879 Speaker 1: I mean you can tell at the end there's some 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,960 times where Harden is looking a little a little ghasted. 73 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:06,599 Will you brought it up? A Viza Zubots leading the 74 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:10,120 league in boards? Somehow people are just now, some people 75 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:13,879 are just realizing that this man can be very good offensively. 76 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:17,560 How hype do you feel about? I mean, Zoo had 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,040 a huge weekend. He went toe to toe with Yoki Jokic, 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,399 obviously scored forty two. Whatever it was, I was great. 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,319 But he came in and he kind of finished the 80 00:04:24,399 --> 00:04:25,600 game against the Warriors. 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those one of the actual. 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,959 Speaker 3: Good aggregate accounts on Twitter. I think it was like 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,480 NBA University. I didn't get sentel, I tellt you that much, 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,680 but they posted a bunch of the just pick just 85 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,399 all the pick and roll plays of Hard and Viza 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,399 zu Bots, and I could watch that all day. 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,759 Speaker 2: It's it's a thing of beauty. They've really got that 88 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,399 thing worked out. 89 00:04:46,439 --> 00:04:48,319 Speaker 3: It's you know, we talked about a leading end of 90 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:50,199 the season, they're gonna have to lean into Zoo a 91 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:53,759 little bit more offensively, and so far, Uh, you know what, 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,920 it was a little I thought out the gate, he 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,160 struggled a little bit, but since then he's really hit 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 his stride. And another guy, you know, you talk about 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,879 James Harden needing to be off ball to get some rest. Adam, 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,480 who's been very skeptical of Zoo's cardio, called him, called 97 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:10,720 him beats the zoos off. 98 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: I believe I. 99 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: Don't know if that. 100 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: Characterization. 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,399 Speaker 2: I don't know really tis Zoo. 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: I believe you said, Uh, should I bring up coach 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,079 about the last season in his cardio? 104 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? That's yeah. Read the quote you really want me 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,480 to read. It's not a good question. 106 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, look in the mirror. Don't you have a tattent 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,000 on your classical? 108 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,199 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you have my receipts somewhere there, 109 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Like it's not momento or anything. 110 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: Uh, waking up as you trying to figure out where 111 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:45,879 you got back is very funny. 112 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: I think it's fair to ask if it beats the 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,920 Zoo boss could keep up playing thirty seven and thirty 114 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,639 nine in back. 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: To back games. 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:56,439 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 117 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,399 Speaker 4: It's an a question what we've seen the last couple 118 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:01,759 of seasons from him. Do I think he should be 119 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,079 playing over thirty minutes per game? Yes, I've been saying 120 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:07,000 it forever. Absolutely, thirty nine and thirty seven on a 121 00:06:07,079 --> 00:06:11,160 back to back not sustainable probably, And sure I mentioned 122 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:14,240 in media day he looks young, lost ten pounds. 123 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: I look. 124 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: I think Zoo at seventy percent at the end of 125 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,959 a game is still way better than your backup center options, 126 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:24,759 So I would play him. I'm just saying it is 127 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,639 something worth watching right now with how much how many 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,920 minutes some of their two key guys are playing. 129 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're more than one and two right now for 130 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,959 getting Clippers buckets, so that that fatigue. And I think 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,040 this kind of was like this back to back. If 132 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:41,959 the Clippers are going to win most back to backs, 133 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:45,600 I think both Harden and Zoo are gonna have to 134 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,160 be over thirty ish minutes a game back to back, 135 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,040 right like if they're really going to sell out, which 136 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 is again the way this team is constructed, we're going 137 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,240 to talk about done who I think also showed Clippers 138 00:06:57,319 --> 00:07:01,040 fans a lot of great stuff this weekend. He's got 139 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:05,120 some legs. But for offense, like Zoo and Harden, kai 140 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,560 Jones didn't get very much run in that game yesterday, 141 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,720 so it's it's gonna be interesting how they managed that 142 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:15,240 going forward. 143 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: It was good they got two days off, that's for sure. 144 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:23,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Chris Dunn I think was a huge bright spot 145 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:26,759 over this weekend. I was looking up some lineup stuff. 146 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,439 Every two man lineup that Chris Dunn is a part 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,120 of is a plus except for him and Kai Jones, 148 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:35,480 which I'm not putting that on Chris Dunn's shoulders, but 149 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,639 I think that shows he's a plug and play guy 150 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,279 for a team that desperately needs a really defensively minded, 151 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,240 chunky statline getting plug and play guy. He was phenomenal 152 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:47,040 against the Warriors. 153 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:51,879 Speaker 4: He had some of the I mean, he baited Steph 154 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:56,160 into a turnover that I couldn't believe, where he hedged 155 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,759 over like he was going to double in case step. 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: The tip. 157 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just completely baited him and then took the 158 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,439 ball away. That stuff is so rare. I knew when 159 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:12,519 they brought him in. That's that's your best probably specialist 160 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:16,000 point of attack defender, even better than Dereck Jones junior. 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,480 But you know, we can get to Terrence Mann a 162 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:21,079 little bit here. 163 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:24,079 Speaker 1: I just we can talk about Terrence now. It's kind 164 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:26,720 of a weird hot topic with Yeah, the first fans 165 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:28,199 after three games in which we're two and. 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,439 Speaker 4: One, it's awesome to see Chris Dunn. They'll be this 167 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,600 good immediately, and he hasn't been hesitating. He's gotten a 168 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:37,720 couple of fourth quarter buckets where he just had to 169 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,600 do it yourself. That's been big. The floater against Golden State, 170 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,039 backing down Sarach against Denver over the weekend on Saturday, 171 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,080 Like he has given them everything they could ask for 172 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,279 so far. Doctor Shapps guy has been bawling out. 173 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about obviously, James Harden phenomenal. He's leading 174 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,320 the league in assists, he's leading the team and total minutes, 175 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,159 total points, total assists, total turnovers. We'll get to some 176 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:07,679 of that maybe previewing this this next back to back, well, 177 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,399 you were on Clippers talk kind of telling people rightfully 178 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:16,240 so to like give Darnce Man some time. After that 179 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,360 second game, it still feels like we just got to 180 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,600 keep giving him some time. It's just it's the shooting 181 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:26,080 that's not there. Everything else, the point of attack defense 182 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,879 has been good to the good. Plus like people are 183 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,639 clamoring for a starting lineup change that I don't. I 184 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,559 think we're just really excited that the team is two 185 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,759 and one. But like I think there's a move, Yeah, 186 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,000 is it? I think the movie, like, what's the move? 187 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,919 Speaker 3: I mean, like I could see an argument for I 188 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,799 could see an argument for Don, but I think that 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,840 that completely screws over your second unit, like in a 190 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:51,519 way that I just don't really think is necessary. You 191 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,840 could just stagger more minutes with him in there versus 192 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:57,200 having him in the starting lineup, if that's the route 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,320 you want to go. And we are still one and yeah, 194 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,360 I look, I understand fans frustrations when we see Terrence 195 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:07,480 fall into the same things, pranalyzing stuff on the floor, 196 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,039 refusing to take shots like the offensive things that are 197 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:15,039 bad habits. Yes, it's frustrating, but we do also know 198 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,360 that he shoots a little bit slow to start, he 199 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,120 has last season, and you know his averages, his career 200 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,679 averages are still you know, there's still low forties, high thirties, 201 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Like it's still there as a three point shooter, So 202 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,320 I yeah, I'm just not on board of immediately switching 203 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:35,360 a piece out. Like we talked about how many question 204 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,480 marks there are already with this team and this starting 205 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,840 lineup you know, was already coming in completely retooled. We 206 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,200 don't know what it's going to look like once Kawhi returns. 207 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,440 We have a pretty good idea. I mean, in that instance, 208 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:50,559 I could definitely see Terrence being the odd man out. 209 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:54,080 That makes a lot of sense. I yeah, agree, it 210 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,120 makes the most sense. But for right now, if it 211 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:02,240 ain't broke, don't fit like I guess, I just I don't. 212 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,720 I don't fully understand, like he's not losing US games 213 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,279 being a starter, Like would I mean, do you think 214 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,440 you could you honestly say that Terrence Man is losing 215 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,519 US games as a starter currently? 216 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:15,279 Speaker 1: Well, I like what you said. If it ain't broke, 217 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,600 too fix it. You gotta give it some time, right Like, 218 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,440 especially in terms of expectations, like look at who's coaching 219 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,240 this team, There's gonna be some time given to this 220 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,919 starting lineup with Kawhi out. And if you think that 221 00:11:28,039 --> 00:11:31,320 Terrence Man's confidence isn't good now, I wonder what putting 222 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:34,120 him to the bench would do three games, Like, there's 223 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,960 other things you gotta kind of figure out. And also 224 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:40,679 he played eighteen minutes against the Warriors. Chris Dunn played 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,519 twenty eight, Tylu. It's not like Tyleru is like, oh, 226 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,679 you're starting, so I guess I have to play you 227 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:50,200 thirty minutes. Like Tyleru mitigated that very he coached those 228 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,440 rotations for the most part in that Golden State game, 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,840 great Tyleru game, I thought. 230 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: I think he's been pretty special so far this season. 231 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:02,080 We talk about Fan Gundy and what he's done defensively, 232 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,639 but the rotations have been tight. The group, the second 233 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:10,360 unit to start second quarters in fourth quarters has been 234 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,799 killing it. And it's KPJ done a mer but toom 235 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,120 and Aviatsa Zubats both last two games, the fourth cores 236 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,279 start by them has been phenomenal. It's been unbelievable. And 237 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:29,360 to your guys' point, like, why are we so fixated 238 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,480 on who's starting? Sometimes when Chris Dunn played ten more 239 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:35,159 minutes at twenty eight to Terrence Man playing eighteen, right, 240 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,720 and it wasn't a problem, It didn't upend anything, it 241 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,799 didn't throw everything off, Guys, weren't We said afterwards, like, 242 00:12:42,039 --> 00:12:43,000 what are we talking about? 243 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: Well, and we've seen a mirror be in place in 244 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 the closing lineup, Like there there's clearly like it's it's 245 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,840 clearly a very fluid situation. 246 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Like I yeah, in the preseason, they're like, there's gonna 247 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,919 be a lot of different lineup, you know what I mean, 248 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:58,679 Like there's a there's a ten man rotation. There's inherently 249 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:00,440 gonna be a ton of shuffler around. 250 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: And I agree with you, Chuck, if you think his 251 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:06,240 confidence is shot right now. If you take him out 252 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 of the starting lineup three games in after he got 253 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,279 that contract deal, he's probably gonna be feeling even more 254 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,440 pressure and more of the weight of the world on 255 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:15,879 his shoulders. I just would like to point out to 256 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 what Will was saying earlier. It's like, guys, we have 257 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:21,200 a pretty healthy sample size at this point. People always saying, well, 258 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,919 it's on how many shots per game with this three 259 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,039 point shooting where he's at thirty seven percent for his career. Okay, 260 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:29,919 why don't we look at over seven hundred takes in 261 00:13:30,039 --> 00:13:32,840 his career from three and forget about how many per 262 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:37,399 game he's at thirty seven percent like he clearly the 263 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:41,080 issue for him is about attempts and being aggressive out there. 264 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,519 And if you're gonna have a problem, it should probably 265 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,600 be that like the worst, yeah, or just a bad 266 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,000 three point shooter. He's above league average. He needs to 267 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,080 get more up. They're clearly these confidence issues right now. Offensively, 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 we've seen it before. But you know, I'm old enough 269 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,960 to remember how the last fifty games of last season 270 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,519 he shot forty four percent from three and shot forty 271 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,039 five percent from three against Dallas and held Luca to 272 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,919 thirty eight percent shooting in the one on one matchup data, Like, 273 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,440 I'm not giving up on that guy three games in. 274 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:12,279 Speaker 3: I'm just not. 275 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: And look, I see the argument for Chris Nunn. I 276 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:17,240 made it this summer, Like you can say that he's 277 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:20,080 the Pat Bev next to James Harden like he had 278 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:23,080 back in Houston. But in three games you're gonna make 279 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,480 the move that quickly when it's not that big of 280 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:28,159 a deal to get him more minutes than Terrence Man. Anyways, 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,320 like we just saw last game, I don't see why 282 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,440 there needs to be this sense of urgency. People are 283 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,159 looking at the lineup data and seeing that the starters 284 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,000 have been outscored by twenty two points so far. But 285 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,440 when it's that small of a sample size right now, 286 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 I'm just not gonna put everything into it and let 287 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,200 things play out a little bit longer. 288 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Ten games sample size. 289 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:52,159 Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean, maybe less. It depends. Did two and 290 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:54,279 one give them a little bit longer of a leash 291 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,960 to figure stuff out, to do more stuff with Terrence Man, 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,840 to see what KPJ has. Does the Portland Trail Bleasures game, 293 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:02,240 if they can go up three and one, does that 294 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,480 give them more time to figure things out? Maybe? I 295 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,159 think it It is record dependent because I agree that 296 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:13,679 there have to be an onus on winning games and 297 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:15,919 staying in front of the Houston Rockets this season and 298 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,919 trying to keep your pick. That's a big deal. 299 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:21,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I like what you mentioned about that second most 300 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,639 played lineup, KPJ Done a mere Nico Zoo. They're plus ten. 301 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Think how much better they'd be if KPJ was making shots. 302 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,279 I think that would be fantastic. Another fun lineup I like, 303 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:38,480 it's only nine minutes in, but it's plus ten, hardened 304 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,639 Norm Done, Derreck Jones Junior in zu Bots. That is 305 00:15:42,679 --> 00:15:45,000 a lineup that I think we're going to see more 306 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,480 of possibly the new Power Rangers. 307 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:49,399 Speaker 4: But see, that was what everyone would say, that's why 308 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,799 you put Done in for Terrence Man in the starting lineup. 309 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,799 That's the starters plus Done instead of the right the 310 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Doun Rangers. Yeah, well maybe somebody said this was interesting 311 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,240 there said Power Rangers turbo, Powell Rangers turbo, which was 312 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:06,559 another iteration later on, because they're playing a little bit 313 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:09,200 faster and having more outlet passes I guess, and more 314 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,440 high flying dunks. But yeah, I get the argument. I 315 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,799 just think as far too early, guys to give up 316 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,639 on Terrence Man. It's not going to help him. 317 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:21,279 Speaker 1: Well, what's the fun what's the updike fun check? After 318 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:24,720 three games? I've never done one this early, but it's 319 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:27,120 been a pretty fun couple of well, a great time. 320 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's like we you know, talked about 321 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:29,960 in the preseason. 322 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:33,519 Speaker 3: It seems like the team is leaning into this defensive 323 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,240 identity they have and just an identity at all is 324 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,159 something that's very new for this team as a whole, 325 00:16:40,559 --> 00:16:43,480 and then just just bringing in some youth and athleticism. 326 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,679 This is like a look in a brand of basketball 327 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,240 that I think has been very much missed by Clippers 328 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 fans as great as great as the highs of the 329 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:55,320 two and three earrow, where this is a this is 330 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,039 a fun brand of basketball, and like you know, I 331 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,759 talked about it. I think we've got it in every 332 00:17:01,159 --> 00:17:04,559 game like postgame preview, but like this, this team is 333 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,400 gonna play it there. They're gonna be top ten and 334 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,400 clutch minutes all season long. Most of the games are 335 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,079 gonna come down to the wire. And if that doesn't 336 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,160 if that doesn't excite you, if that's not fun to you, 337 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,279 then I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you. 338 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,319 Watch reruns of the of the of the Warriors with 339 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,000 KD back in their reign. You know who's gonna win, 340 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,640 Like if like, if you want to have some fun, 341 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,039 it's it's right here. 342 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,039 Speaker 2: It's it's right here. 343 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Shaky, spotty offense, committed defense equals close games, good time. 344 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: They are leading the league currently in clutch time minutes 345 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:41,640 was seventeen. Clutch time minutes last five minutes of a 346 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,200 game within five points. I think we'll it's right like 347 00:17:44,319 --> 00:17:47,160 top ten, they may end up top five. It's gonna 348 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,039 be a lot of cardiac clips we're going through this season. 349 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:53,599 Speaker 1: I guess and we love it. I'm I'm here for it. 350 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: It is. 351 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,839 Speaker 1: It was incredibly exciting to watch. 352 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: What was the Vegas prediction thirty three to thirty five 353 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,119 wins or whatever? 354 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: Thirty eight I think it was. Thirty six was kind 355 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,480 of if you aggregated all of them, it was. 356 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like around thirty six to thirty eight. 357 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:11,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see. I think there is a price time it's. 358 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: Supposed to be here. 359 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: There's a wall. There's a wall. 360 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: I oh, there is. 361 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Without react, there are no pun intended. The wall is 362 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:22,559 coming at some point for this Clippers team. 363 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,559 Speaker 4: There is there is a fatigue tax when you play 364 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,680 defense to this level every night. And I just don't 365 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,680 know what would happen if they didn't have James Harden 366 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:35,519 running the offense. Maybe I do know it's Derek Jones 367 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:38,200 Junior bringing it up and it looks miserable at times. 368 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,319 I think they would. I don't know why they didn't 369 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,720 try done in those situations more. I just this is 370 00:18:43,759 --> 00:18:46,519 why I think they're chasing KPJ to see if he 371 00:18:46,599 --> 00:18:49,440 can do something, because if they don't have James Harden, 372 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,119 I just and for some reason, they've given up on 373 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,240 bones and maybe that's made us give up on them ever, 374 00:18:55,319 --> 00:18:58,160 given Bones a real shot, but clearly KPJ is getting 375 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,200 the shot first. Yeah, find another ball handler in case, 376 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,400 you know, they really need a ramp down minutes quick 377 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,240 with James Harden. 378 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good call. I mean, like, yeah, it was. 379 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,400 We saw the wall rise up a little bit at 380 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,519 the end of that that that turnover out of the 381 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,799 inbounds pass. I was like, oh this, oh shit, like 382 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:21,279 this this doesn't feel very good. But they pulled it 383 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:22,799 out because Box was the closer. 384 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: As fun as this has been, and they easily could 385 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,599 have won Game one, they also easily could have lost 386 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,559 the game to Denver and the game to the Golden 387 00:19:31,599 --> 00:19:34,759 State Warriors, where I think both came down to them 388 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,519 being up by about one point at some point in 389 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,000 the fourth quarter. It got really dicey. But it is 390 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,720 fun when they pull through and show some poise down 391 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:45,920 the stretch. It's a lot of fun, especially when they 392 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,759 do it on the road against two teams that you know, 393 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,759 or trying to get off to a quick start at 394 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:53,200 home and to get their season going. I think that 395 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:56,200 it was really impressive weekend. Honestly, guys, those two wins 396 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,160 they had won in Denver in almost four years. Yeah, 397 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,279 I want to be too much of a down or 398 00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:03,960 I'm just looking ahead a little bit and saying like, Okay, 399 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:06,200 this is all great. You need to bank these ones 400 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:09,359 right now because March's coming, tax could. 401 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: Come, March is coming. 402 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:12,279 Speaker 4: March too. 403 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: The Clippers have yet another back to back coming up 404 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,799 against the Blazers and the Suns at starting a winsor 405 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:22,319 we're going to talk about that in just a couple 406 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,640 of seconds. If you're watching us, thank you for hanging 407 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,480 out at YouTube dot com slash At Clippers Podcast. If 408 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:30,200 you're listening and you don't want to deal with these 409 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:32,559 audio breaks, check us out on YouTube. But if you 410 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:34,240 are listener's going to be a quick audio break and 411 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:36,119 then the back to back preview coming up in three 412 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,119 two one. 413 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clips and Dip, your favorite 414 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,400 podcast that's about the Clippers. Uh William Mufdyke, joined as 415 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,119 always by Chuck Mockler and Adam Osland. We talked a 416 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,359 little bit about how the season's going as far, but 417 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,079 it keeps on going, as you know. The profits of 418 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,359 smash Mouth once said that the years start coming and 419 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,920 they don't stop coming. So the Clippers are taking on 420 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 the Clippers are taking on the Suns again after they 421 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,839 get through the Portland Trail? 422 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,759 Speaker 4: Are they walking on the Suns this time? 423 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,839 Speaker 1: That's the first That was the best UH intro to 424 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920 in reference we've ever had on this show, and the 425 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,319 first time we've referenced smash Mouth. I think that was 426 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,559 just it was seamless. We're in mid season four. It's 427 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:22,319 a baby. 428 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: It's here all year long. 429 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: So the Blazers are weird. They have two losses and 430 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,200 a huge win over the Peals, which is classic early 431 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:38,319 season like bad team behavior. They're an okay rebounding team, 432 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:41,279 they can't really shoot that well. They get a bunch 433 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:42,559 of field goal attempts up. 434 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: What do we. 435 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: This is where the fatigue maybe can get the Clippers 436 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,720 in trouble against a young team like this. Adam, would 437 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,160 you agree? 438 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,599 Speaker 4: I it could have the makings of a trap game. 439 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,279 But two days off, God, I hope they don't have 440 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,599 fatigue after two days off play to two days off again. 441 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,759 I just it was a little bit alarming to see 442 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,759 James Harden look that tired at the end of that 443 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,759 game against Golden State three games into the season. But 444 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,279 this is a handle your business type of game because 445 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,039 you know the Sons are coming the very next night, 446 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,359 and that's the one you're chasing to get back. Chasing 447 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,599 the Suns to get a win back that they lost 448 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,920 opening night and into a dome when they were up 449 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,920 by nine with three fifty two left and easily could 450 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,400 have had that game. So I hope they're focused. We're 451 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359 gonna find something out about this team. I think against 452 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,759 Portland basically like. 453 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: Will there be to after birth? 454 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:40,559 Speaker 4: Perhaps something born? Someone said in the chat. 455 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,799 Speaker 2: The other night. He's in there, he's delivering this thing. 456 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: Someone said the Clippers Talk chat the other night. My 457 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,640 wife just told me we're having a girl. It was like, 458 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,119 was something born out of this Clippers Talk episode? 459 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: What a day for that Clippers fan. Congratulations to the 460 00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:57,880 Clippers fan. 461 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. Good, But a big game I think against Portland 462 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,480 to see where their focus is at, to not have 463 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,119 that let down after a big weekend. 464 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: I think, yeah. I mean if they split, I'll be happy. 465 00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:12,000 You know, the Suns are a good team. 466 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, and I think how they start this Blazers game 467 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:17,920 is gonna say, like you know, it's it's really going 468 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,920 to determine if that energy and that and that whole 469 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,480 sort of thing is there because we've seen them set 470 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:26,839 the tone in you know what I would call mid 471 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,240 day energy against some of these teams and some of 472 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:32,440 these matchups and really get into trouble, so. 473 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: That this would be this would would have to be 474 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:36,680 a different look for this Clippers team. 475 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I wonder what punting on a game looks 476 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,799 like for this Clippers team. Because so the bench is good, 477 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:47,079 you know what I mean, Like it's just oh, play 478 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,079 the bench bar, but the bench doesn't quit Like It's 479 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,319 not like the bench is full of like streaky scorers. 480 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,039 The bench is full of guys who like to be 481 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,039 dickheads on defense. I say that lovingly. 482 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: Are they scoring points? 483 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: Right? I mean that's the only other issue, the other 484 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:09,000 essential part of the yeah points the Blazers game. I'm 485 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:11,759 so kind. I'm just like, I'm interested to see what 486 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,359 they look like like. I wonder if we're gonna see 487 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,799 some different lineup combinations. You know who I hope gets 488 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:21,400 some run in this Blazers game. Kai Jones give Zoo 489 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,279 should not have to play thirty four to thirty six 490 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,200 minutes against this Blazers team. I know they have Jander Eyton, 491 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,200 who I believe is healthy. He shouldn't Zoo should not 492 00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,480 need be needed for thirty six minutes in this game. 493 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: Well, and Kai Jones has a game winning oop against 494 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,599 the Blazers in the preseason, like this is his team, 495 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,680 this is not their number. 496 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope and again same with Harden, right like 497 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:51,839 I think all Clippers fans are hoping Harden Zoo get 498 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,480 a little bit. 499 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: Of rest in this first game. It should be a team. 500 00:24:57,559 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll still be a close game. I'm not going 501 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,119 to pretend that, but they need the rest. Maybe they 502 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,559 dropped the one to the Blazers because they're resting guys 503 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,079 Like you mentioned a little more for the Blazers or 504 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,839 for the Suns game. 505 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: I mean it was basically Anthony Simons and Jeremy Grant 506 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,519 went off and combined for over fifty points efficiently against 507 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,079 the Pelicans, which I guess was a home and home 508 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,000 or no, it was a two game mini series where 509 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:27,319 Portland was hosting the Pelicans. They lost the first game 510 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,519 by two, they won the second game one twenty five 511 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,440 to one oh three, or they just feasted on them. 512 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,960 So I don't know, it's hard to you know, we 513 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,000 don't expect them to be good, but you also do 514 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,400 not want to take a team lightly. Yeah, it's early 515 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,440 in the season, and not only are all NBA teams talented, 516 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,119 they may have youth and inexperience that works against them, 517 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,160 but they also have hope. This time of the year, 518 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,799 you know, everybody feels like, hey, we could be a 519 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,319 playing team. The playing team opened up a lot of hope. 520 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,640 I think, you know, once you got ten teams that 521 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,079 can quote unquote make the playoffs to play in I 522 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,160 don't know, they may. That's probably what they're aiming for 523 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:04,200 this year, to be tenth. 524 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,759 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see too, because Jeremy Grant is a 525 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,359 guy that a lot of Clippers fans want the Clippers 526 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,599 to try and trade for. He's been rumored, but like, 527 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,440 I mean, that's not happening. His contract, dude, I don't 528 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,960 was like, could be though, could be the move? Will 529 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,759 they take PJ. Tucker and Bones? I mean sure, that's 530 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,640 thirty million dollars right, Yeah, that's that money that covers 531 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,839 it extra at fifteen mil. Every year. 532 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,319 Speaker 2: This is a cash kicker every year from Balmer. 533 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: The Sun's game is on Thursday. The Suns are thirtieth 534 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,440 in field goal attempts per game, which surprised me. I 535 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:47,000 just didn't think they would be dead last. I know 536 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:50,319 they're very efficient, but and it's early. I do we 537 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,960 think the Clippers will look better or worse than Opening Night? 538 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,599 And will they make more than eight threes this time? 539 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,119 I think that I expect them to look better. 540 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,079 Speaker 3: I mean I thought the turnovers were a huge issue 541 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,519 and they just kind of looked not as coordinated on 542 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,359 an offensive end. But then again, like you do have 543 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,680 the fatigue. I just I still really like the way 544 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,720 this team matches up against the Suns. Like if that 545 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,119 was gonna be a playoff series, I obviously be very, 546 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,880 very tough. 547 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,759 Speaker 2: But I like the way these teams match up to 548 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,160 the clip. 549 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Adam. 550 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:28,759 Speaker 4: So they're last in attempts and it makes me think, Okay, 551 00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,680 where are they in pace? They're only eighteenth. I mean 552 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,720 it's not fast, but I would have thought they'd be 553 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:36,839 like twenty eight through thirtyth there in pace. So are 554 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,599 they taking a ton? Are they taking a ton of 555 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480 free throws? Are they just the worst rebounding team? 556 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: They're trying to take a lot of free throws? 557 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: They did against the Clippers, right, So there's six and 558 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,079 three throw attempts. They're at twenty nine. I think they 559 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,200 had thirty five or thirty six against the Clippers in 560 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,839 that game that went to overtime. Yeah, so that's part 561 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,039 of it. 562 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,519 Speaker 1: And rebounding their twenty ninth and offensive rebound sixth in 563 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:05,440 defense of rebounds percentage wise offensive Yeah, tenth in defensive 564 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,920 rebounding percentage, twenty ninth in offense. So like kind of 565 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,319 middle of like if you're not like being bad offensive 566 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,000 rebounds is one thing, but they're not horrible with defensive rebounds. 567 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 4: Well, they're turning it over seventeen times a game that 568 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,519 that plays into it. That's about twentieth, I guess. But regardless, 569 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,319 I like the matchup two. They should have beat them 570 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,240 opening night, O Greed, take care of business against Portland, 571 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,400 get ready for revenge game against the Phoenix Suns, and 572 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,279 Phoenix could shoot better in that game. Sometimes they have 573 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,799 the jump shooters and the talent that there's not a 574 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,720 lot you can do if guys are on and they're 575 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,039 really hot, just like that shot late with kd over 576 00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:46,039 a double team. Sometimes they make those and it's their night. 577 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,759 But I mean that's how when you talk about the 578 00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:51,519 Clippers and what it looks like when they have a 579 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,920 punt game. I assume the effort's still gonna be pretty good. 580 00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,200 It's just gonna be a team knocking down everything. 581 00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:57,759 Speaker 1: You know. 582 00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:01,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what if that's your only worry. I mean, 583 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,400 you're a pretty decent spot defensively. Is there's nobody that 584 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,200 can do anything about some of the hot shooting in 585 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,640 today's league once it gets going. 586 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: That's true. I'm speaking of hot shooting. Devin Booker hasn't 587 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,880 started the season exactly on fire shooting wise. He's at 588 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,400 like forty three from the field. A little worried that 589 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,000 might come into play here for the Clippers. I love 590 00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:24,519 that it's a home and home back to back, right 591 00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,640 at least it's the first back to back into it. 592 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,920 That's got to make things easier, right, right, anybody? I 593 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:37,559 think it does. But it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna 594 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:40,799 be difficult. Do you think they're splitting or do you 595 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:41,640 think we're going to and no? 596 00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:46,559 Speaker 4: I want to be helpful and say too and oh, 597 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640 because I really want them to beat the Suns. But 598 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:51,920 if they lose to the Blazers, because they're thinking like 599 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:55,000 I am right now, and overlooking them to get to 600 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,599 the Suns. That's a problem. I mean, it's most like. 601 00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I hope not. 602 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: I thought there was a chance they could start zero 603 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,720 and three. After they lost to the Suns, it was like, 604 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,400 oh crap, this weekend's gonna be rough. They pulled it 605 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:13,839 out late game, situational basketball. They have to execute, just 606 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,160 like they did the last two games. They figured it out, 607 00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:21,039 they absorbed some adversity, and they punched back. So I 608 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920 really love the fact the way they won those two games, 609 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,359 even the way they played against Phoenix, like there's something 610 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,200 you can at least learn from that. Losing a game 611 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:31,000 like that opening night. These are all really good learning 612 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:34,079 experiences early in the season to figure out what you're 613 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,279 made of and to have that reservoir of confidence to 614 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,839 draw from because you've been there and the team has 615 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720 come back and you still you know, they they probably 616 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:43,720 we talked about it, I think last night, Chuck, but 617 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,720 they withstood I think three runs quality runs by the 618 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,680 whole State Warriors, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter. Every 619 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,880 time they were able to get that you know, answer 620 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160 in and I'm excited about that for this team. But 621 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:00,920 they probably will be tested point in the next couple 622 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,119 of games in that way again. 623 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: All right, now the most important part of the episode. 624 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,119 Who is our pick? We've had to extend the name 625 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,440 of this award because of how the Clippers are. 626 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:13,599 Speaker 2: I think it's only natural. 627 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Who is our pick for the Kawhi Leonard James Harden 628 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:25,480 of Vizzi Zobots Player of the Game. Not yet, then 629 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:28,880 I'm going Norm Powell say we can't add Nordony yet, 630 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,359 because then we can. Then we're all picking Chris done basically, 631 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:35,640 So it's Norm Powell fantastic. Hope he's shooting a little 632 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,559 better from three. We hope we get a consistent Norm 633 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:47,039 maybe in these two games. What money, Adam? Who is 634 00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,000 your pick for the Kawhi Leonard of vitz Zu Bots 635 00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:53,319 James Harden Player of the Game Clippers Basketball twenty four 636 00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:54,640 to twenty five season, back to back. 637 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: First, I post some highlights of this guy earlier today 638 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,759 to uh defend his honor with the way he's been 639 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:05,200 defending even though his SHOT's not falling and he's just 640 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,680 not taking enough. I'm gonna go with Terrence Man and 641 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,119 go out on a limb and just say I'm hoping 642 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,640 Terrence Man turns things around at into it dome he needs. 643 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,519 He's the type of guy that it can be one 644 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,039 game or one instance, because it literally flipped when the 645 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,839 calendar did for him last season and Paul George said, 646 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,759 twenty twenty four, we shooting the shit out. 647 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: Of the ball. 648 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: Terrence Man was like, oh, light bulb went on and 649 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,160 it just last fifty games forty four three. So I 650 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,440 don't want to wait that long. I want him to 651 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:38,319 get it together right now in game four or five. 652 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,440 He needs to have that outbreak. He needs to have 653 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,160 that performance that gives him confidence because he is a 654 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,799 guy that just ridses the wave of confidence. It seems like. 655 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Rides the wave, no pun intended. So we got Norm 656 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,960 Powell Terrence Man. That's two starters. I was gonna say 657 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,359 Derek Jones Junior, because if you look at the shooting stats, 658 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,119 they have been very good percentage wise. His defense has 659 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,559 been good. But I want to give some love to 660 00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:03,200 the bench. I think I have to go a guy 661 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,119 who's been pretty quiet. I think we're gonna get multiple 662 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,680 three pointers in each game from Niko Batoum in this 663 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,200 back to back and talk about a guy who maybe 664 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,960 doesn't need a bunch of minutes on his legs. But 665 00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:19,160 if you're gonna have games, we got a lot of 666 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,279 bench units playing and trying to get some guys some rest. 667 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,880 The guy who can make things easier is Nicobatu. So 668 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,039 I think it's gonna be Nico. 669 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: He is an ax to grind against Portland. I can 670 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:29,559 see that. 671 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:33,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he does a French axe. It's shaped oddly. 672 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: It's very dull. Now, yeah, the velvet axe. I he's 673 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920 been getting a tough whistle, right yeah, like going back 674 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640 to the Phoenix game, and I felt like over the 675 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,599 weekend he also has gotten a tough whistle. I hope 676 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,920 there's no reputation thing happening right now with officials. He's 677 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,960 a dude not letting him. 678 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: Play international basketball or something where he's just like shutting 679 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,559 guys down. He's like high he's just more high profile. 680 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 4: I almost feel like he's playing the same way he 681 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,840 did in the Olympics and he just hasn't adjusted back 682 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,360 to NBA ball. I don't know. But also he's just 683 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,599 gotten some bad calls on him just I don't know. 684 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,480 The Phoenix game was especially weird wonky day. 685 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll leave it out. He's gonna be the best 686 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,920 player on the floor for both of these games. Other than. 687 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: James Hardener, the Triumviran, the Triumphant. 688 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: One last thing before we get out of here, Kobe 689 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:34,519 Brown got his third year option exercised by the Clippers. 690 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,119 Makes sense, Let's hope he can just that he should 691 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,480 take I mean, yeah, you got to pick it. 692 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,039 Speaker 2: Up, Okay, just like what. 693 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: They've invested so much. Yeah, you would. They gotta give 694 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,920 him some run, right like I mean you would hope. 695 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:52,559 Speaker 2: Is he gonna be able to grow three inches? 696 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 4: Well, he has a younger player that they. 697 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: Drafted, right, Is he twenty five? 698 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 4: I've turned twenty five, yeah, b at the end of 699 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:03,800 this year. 700 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: Well, he's turned in twenty five at the beginning of 701 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,280 next year, because his birthday is January first. 702 00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:11,199 Speaker 4: By the end of this season. 703 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,159 Speaker 1: Is well, I thought you meant literally year. I only 704 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,760 said that because his birthday right literally the first. Yeah, 705 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,440 we'll see what happens with that. Also, we haven't mentioned him. 706 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,519 Jordan Miller might get some running one of these games. 707 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 4: Who knows, that'd be great, right, I'd just love to 708 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,280 see it blow out Portland. Get Jordan Miller some minutes, 709 00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:33,360 that would be cool. 710 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:34,679 Speaker 2: Don't want to. 711 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 4: Look past them, but obviously one of the lesser teams 712 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,960 in the West, and if the Clippers play like they 713 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,159 have the first three games of the season, they have 714 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,360 an advantage. 715 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: Entirely true. Okay, I am on a hard stop. I 716 00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:50,519 have to leave. You guys can keep doing the episode 717 00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,960 if you want, or we can end it. Let's get 718 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,079 out of here. We have some double dips coming your way, 719 00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,840 maybe this weekend or maybe this week on Clippers Talk 720 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,400 if you're not familiar, that's when we get to go 721 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960 on the postgame with Adam and chop it up. We're 722 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,880 also he's also streaming all of those on the Clippers 723 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,559 Talk YouTube. We're gonna have a full episode probably on 724 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,760 Friday for y'all. Reviews, help, subscriptions, help will Where can 725 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,599 these people review our podcast to help us out? 726 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can now review this podcast over on Apple 727 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,679 Podcasts or Spotify. You can now comment, I believe, on 728 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,920 every episode on Spotify, and you can for sure comment 729 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,480 on every episode over at YouTube dot com slash at 730 00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,480 Clippers podcast. Subscribe over there if you hit the little 731 00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:33,679 bell thing, you'll get notified when we have a new 732 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,239 stuff coming out, which is I mean now that the 733 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,920 seasons and swing a few times a week. 734 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,159 Speaker 2: So uh yeah. However, you however you can see the show, 735 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,480 just know we appreciate you. 736 00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,119 Speaker 1: We absolutely do. We're almost a two thousand subscribers on YouTube, 737 00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:48,920 which is pretty cool. Adam, Before we get out of here, 738 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480 one positive thing for these Clippers faithful to go into 739 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:53,599 the rest of their work week. 740 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:59,679 Speaker 4: With Clippers have faced three solid to very good teams 741 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,599 and two and one and they outdueled Jokich. And I 742 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,960 know Steph Curry left the game around the seven minute 743 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,599 mark of the fourth, but I want to say they 744 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,599 were up by almost double digits to that point. I 745 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:11,400 think they were gonna win that game anyways, with the 746 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,519 job they were doing on him. The Clippers defense is 747 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,440 third right now in the league three games in. But 748 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:21,199 more importantly, it just matches. You know. The eye test 749 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,880 tells you the level of effort is. It's otherworldly. And 750 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,719 they have the defensive personnel. We talked about it as 751 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,079 soon as they brought in Derreck Jones Junior. Oh, they're 752 00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:34,159 pivoting to defense. They're going all in, bring back the Toom, 753 00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:38,159 bring in Chris Dunn. Here we go, and it's played 754 00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,320 out like that so far. So even though they're twenty 755 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,119 third on offense. They are two and one against some 756 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:44,440 good competition. 757 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,199 Speaker 1: And third in defensive rating in the league. We absolutely 758 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,880 love to see it. I've been Chuck Bockler, Adam Os 759 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,840 and William Updyke as well. We'll see you Friday and 760 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,440 as always, let's go Clips.