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Speaker 1: our expert, and welcome back. After the Turkey Day, I
Speaker 1: hope everything went well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very well. Had a good time with the family.
Speaker 2: And you had the you had the granddaughter.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my granddaughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smiling. That that is a twenty four hour smile.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a child smile.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And she flew on the airplane and shit, actually loved it.
Speaker 5: She was looking out the window.
Speaker 2: I just thought that was great.
Speaker 5: I was fascinated by that at what eight months? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: so she's really taking it all in. So anyway, no
Speaker 5: problems on the airplane.
Speaker 3: Thing was for the airport.
Speaker 4: Didn't mama work on a nuclear sub Yes?
Speaker 5: It will not know at the time. They wouldn't let girls.
Speaker 5: She's on the aircraft carrier Nuclear and so was husband.
Speaker 5: They met each other on the USS George Washington.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: So cool.
Speaker 4: That was a while back.
Speaker 5: Anyway, God, this time of the year, the weather has changed, man,
Speaker 5: from one day to a next. Looks like we're going
Speaker 5: to have some fairly consistent weather this week.
Speaker 1: Yep, forties and fifties in the daytime, in twenties and
Speaker 1: thirties at night.
Speaker 5: That's about right this time of year. It was getting
Speaker 5: right close to December, isn't it. Yeah it is, yeah tomorrow, Yeah, yesterday.
Speaker 5: I put a new ring on the tree too. Getting older,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. It is one of the better times
Speaker 5: for landscaping and plant trees. Good time for plant and tree.
Speaker 5: So we got to have some trees on sale at
Speaker 5: the nursery. To come and pick them out. We'll just
Speaker 5: throw them in the ground for you.
Speaker 2: You do a little bit more than that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the shrubs and bulbs and landscaping is a
Speaker 5: good time for that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You get that ground ready, get all that compost in
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 4: Get it all chopped up, ready to go.
Speaker 5: We've got several projects online and we're in the middle
Speaker 5: of one right now, and more on the way.
Speaker 3: Just no end in sight, it seems.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so it's a good time here for that too,
Speaker 5: because the plants will get well established and get the
Speaker 5: roots out before spring hits and for the heat hits
Speaker 5: next summer. Now, you guys got all these little buttons
Speaker 5: over there, you can make next summer high in the
Speaker 5: eighties all summer long.
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So anyway, so anyway, it is getting a little bit
Speaker 5: dry after the rain, maybe here and there. So if
Speaker 5: you do have some plants that are in the ground,
Speaker 5: newly planted plants, you want to look at the soil
Speaker 5: and see if they're getting a little bit on the
Speaker 5: dry side, because all those roots are just right here
Speaker 5: when you first plant one, and it's going to use
Speaker 5: up that water quickly in that root mass, in the
Speaker 5: established root mass from the container whatever it was planted
Speaker 5: in first.
Speaker 3: And then you said, well, I just watered it, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you gotta water it down.
Speaker 2: Here, watered down and around close.
Speaker 3: To the plant when they or new like that.
Speaker 5: Now, once they're in the ground bout a month or so,
Speaker 5: their roots are stretching out and they're going to get established,
Speaker 5: so there's not so much of that evolved so on
Speaker 5: something new, and that's why we add a lot of
Speaker 5: mult when we plant.
Speaker 2: New stuff up and move around here.
Speaker 5: Well, it helps prevent water loss, evaporative water loss to it,
Speaker 5: so you might if you do want to get the
Speaker 5: tree or shrub, you might want to get some mulch too.
Speaker 5: That it creates kind of a flywheel effect on the
Speaker 5: dry and wet cycle, and some on kind of even
Speaker 5: set out a little it so you don't have to
Speaker 5: worry about it. Or if you like me planting in
Speaker 5: the ground and say you're on your own, buddy, yeah,
Speaker 5: planted a tree like that? Oh just hanging the poor thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I said, no, you have to grow some roots. I'm
Speaker 5: a tough old man. You have to grow some roots.
Speaker 2: Get out there, boy, grow some root.
Speaker 3: Now that the trunk is the size of a basketball big.
Speaker 5: Around than its big and its changed my truck in
Speaker 5: the afternoon doing very well. So you know, you don't
Speaker 5: want to In other words, you don't want to overdo
Speaker 5: it because then it becomes dependent on that. So you
Speaker 5: want to kind of as it is establishing.
Speaker 4: Like a brother in law, I guess I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 5: You want us roots to really go out, you really
Speaker 5: want to venture forth. And actually we found when we
Speaker 5: when we dig up trees the people's loss, it's either
Speaker 5: buried too deeply in the ground or the roots is
Speaker 5: never went past the rit mass. Right, So you want
Speaker 5: to go ahead and water it alternating days for a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks and back it off to every three
Speaker 5: days and slowly, slowly get it.
Speaker 3: Used to that soil that's around it.
Speaker 5: So overwatering is one of the biggest problems people have
Speaker 5: with their plants, and underwatering is the biggest problem people
Speaker 5: have with the plants.
Speaker 2: But just stay on top of it, folks, should be fine.
Speaker 5: What I like to do is to let it start
Speaker 5: to wilt a little bit, just a little, not a lot,
Speaker 5: then then water fairly heavily, and then let it dry
Speaker 5: out again so its riots will venture forth into the
Speaker 5: soil and take take hold.
Speaker 4: Okay, make it a strong wind, right.
Speaker 5: So, uh, we've had some weather patterns in the past
Speaker 5: and dry water.
Speaker 3: We don't have that problem right now.
Speaker 5: The soil is not really dry right now, so but
Speaker 5: we still want to conserve water. So anyway, this plant
Speaker 5: this weekend. This weekend to do some hopefully in my
Speaker 5: garden to dig up the elephant ears.
Speaker 2: You're going to do it this year.
Speaker 5: And yes, they're eight feet tall this year. They're huge
Speaker 5: elephant tie exactly. I took the thatch from the lawn
Speaker 5: and throw on top of the ground whenever and one
Speaker 5: foot layer of a and it's decomposed. Now it's really
Speaker 5: good stuff. And they've just huge things. And fertilize them
Speaker 5: and the little drips is in the water them too,
Speaker 5: so they're doing very well. I didn't have to water
Speaker 5: that much this year, really seems. But anyway, yeah, and
Speaker 5: so as the winter progresses, you want to make sure
Speaker 5: to watch the surface moisture content. And if you have
Speaker 5: a good layer of mulch on the ground, you really
Speaker 5: can't see that, but looking on the edge of the
Speaker 5: sidewalk and if the soil is peel pulling away from
Speaker 5: the sidewalk, it's being a little bit dry. So it's
Speaker 5: not a problem right now, but it can be because
Speaker 5: we don't have any rain forecasts, and I don't know
Speaker 5: about next week, but all this water we had is
Speaker 5: going to dry up here now.
Speaker 1: We got sunny, clear skies after today. Yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: the way through Friday.
Speaker 5: So don't let it get to the point where the
Speaker 5: soil is pulled away from the sidewalk and all that,
Speaker 5: or the bed edge anything you got like that, because
Speaker 5: it's difficult to re establish the moisture content. So even
Speaker 5: though the moisture seems to be pretty good, if you
Speaker 5: can possibly do it, don't stop watering, especially on newly planet,
Speaker 5: newly planted things. So okay, right, so the water level
Speaker 5: is a pretty good deep down, but on the surface,
Speaker 5: on your new plants, you might have some difficulties. So
Speaker 5: people have kind of gotten away from watering their stuff.
Speaker 5: You can run and run into some troubles with dryness,
Speaker 5: believe it or not.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: Most often asked question, what do I do to my
Speaker 5: tropical plants to bring them into the house?
Speaker 4: Cut it back?
Speaker 2: Cut them back?
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, things like fighters trees can be cut back.
Speaker 5: But when you bring a fiers tree in the house,
Speaker 5: all the leaves fall off of it anyway, and they'll
Speaker 5: put new ones on. They're kind of like a chat.
Speaker 5: They can't adjust to new environments very well.
Speaker 2: Stubborn.
Speaker 5: Instead of hiding in the corner under the couch, they
Speaker 5: just all the leaves just fall off, and there are
Speaker 5: some other plants that that do better than that. But
Speaker 5: if your fiers tree does defoliate, don't worry about it.
Speaker 5: It'll come back, okay. And we do have a good
Speaker 5: selection of tropical plants at the nursery, so come by
Speaker 5: and check those out. To the points that as are
Speaker 5: in looking really nice. We had to do some re
Speaker 5: roofing on the greenhouse just just for them, so come
Speaker 5: check it out. It's so nice to come in there
Speaker 5: and all the waterfalls going and all these tropical plants.
Speaker 5: It's pretty cool. So come check them out and see
Speaker 5: lawns right now. Don't get slickered into using a winter
Speaker 5: riser anyr bermudo grass, they won't use it.
Speaker 3: And dormant and.
Speaker 5: Or or zoiso grass it's kind of superfluous, so don't
Speaker 5: use it on your bermuta grass or yours grass.
Speaker 3: At this point. No, they don't need any fertilizer.
Speaker 4: If you get too much nitrogen in there, we get
Speaker 4: the five top four. You pretty bad.
Speaker 5: On the stems, and that's kind of the sort of
Speaker 5: like a spring dead spot, gotcha, And it comes from
Speaker 5: overnatrification of the soil and fungal growth and all that.
Speaker 5: So you want to avoid fertilizing your bermutigraphs at this point.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 5: If you want a pre emergent herbicide for the spring
Speaker 5: wage or too late, they're up.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Keep an eye on that.
Speaker 5: When the permuta grass is completely dormant, you can do
Speaker 5: a moderate application of round up to kill the weeds
Speaker 5: that are there without killing your bermutographs. I say moderate,
Speaker 5: don't don't make it too strong. Measure it this time.
Speaker 3: Don't just pour it in the bucket.
Speaker 4: And go measure exactly.
Speaker 5: So fescue grass, though it's doing just fine right now,
Speaker 5: that likes this cooler weather.
Speaker 3: And just kind of you can mow it fairly low
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 5: You can go down to an inch on it if
Speaker 5: you want to, and sort of keep it that way
Speaker 5: in the winter, and then as sprint progresses you want
Speaker 5: to increase the height. December, you don't want to fertilize
Speaker 5: your fescue grass. In January, you don't want to fertilize it.
Speaker 5: Come February, start to tign and fertilize it again. March
Speaker 5: and April and early part of May is the last
Speaker 5: time it has to get hardened. Off for the summer
Speaker 5: and also as the spring. As time progresses in the spring,
Speaker 5: you want to increase the height of the fescue grass. Also,
Speaker 5: what that does is create a larger surface area for
Speaker 5: transpiration the cooling effect that leaves have, and it also
Speaker 5: helps shade the ground a little bit better too.
Speaker 3: Getting so hot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so fesci grass right now, you can cut a
Speaker 5: little bit low.
Speaker 3: It looks pretty nice when it's got kind of low.
Speaker 5: But keep in mind you have to set the notch
Speaker 5: on the moor in the spring for it to tolerate
Speaker 5: the heat.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking And welcome back to the Green Country Gardener
Speaker 1: program and Larry Glasses are expert. If you have a
Speaker 1: question or com man, just give us a call. One
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Speaker 1: what's next?
Speaker 5: You bet let's see our sharp of the week has
Speaker 5: brittany bush. Yes, are you wanamus elidas?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Otherwise not as winged you want to us. It's in
Speaker 5: full color right now, red red leaves on it.
Speaker 3: I took a picture of my burning bush.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's on fire.
Speaker 4: It's on fire.
Speaker 3: Here we go there look that huh oh.
Speaker 2: Well, my goodness sakes flames of raging.
Speaker 5: For those of you with color radio, you can see
Speaker 5: it right anyway, it turns a bright red color.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 5: I do nothing to these plants, absolutely nothing. However, this this,
Speaker 5: there's one that's kind of close to the house. It's
Speaker 5: kind of outgrown. It's welcome. But the beauty of you
Speaker 5: want to as plants is you could cut them back
Speaker 5: all you want and they just come back just.
Speaker 3: Just good as good, you know, good as new.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 5: So it's going to get as soon as all the
Speaker 5: color's gone, it's going to get cut up and run
Speaker 5: through this redder.
Speaker 2: Good lord, from a little those things.
Speaker 5: From eight feet tall down to about two feet it,
Speaker 5: we'll come back anyway. They reach a height of up
Speaker 5: to fifteen to twenty feet tall if you let them.
Speaker 5: There's are some door dwarf for these are compact varieties
Speaker 5: of the burning bush that don't get quite so big.
Speaker 5: So uh and it uh. It's very dense bushy and
Speaker 5: many branch shrubs, so it does branch out when you
Speaker 5: do cut it back. So I have them in several
Speaker 5: instances in the yard, two of which have been permitted
Speaker 5: to grow just as they please. And the one on
Speaker 5: the back fence it's just un it's just a monster.
Speaker 4: There it is right there.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's a life of it.
Speaker 5: It's a six foot fence and it's twice as tall,
Speaker 5: and the color is just really brilliant. It pops and
Speaker 5: it's the color shows for I don't know, two or
Speaker 5: three weeks or so in the fall. But is it
Speaker 5: really not Other than that, it's it's a good, good
Speaker 5: shrub to be used for screening or a foundation planting,
Speaker 5: something like that. And it's very easy to manage because
Speaker 5: being a member of the Euanabus family. It's it's tough
Speaker 5: and it responds very well to heavy pruning. I don't
Speaker 5: like to use it as a hedgerow. It does not
Speaker 5: make a neat hedge. It doesn't, no, not at all.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't have a good not like a box
Speaker 5: wood or a privit edge or something.
Speaker 3: It kind of like Nandina.
Speaker 5: You just can't train them into a hedge formal hedge
Speaker 5: like that, So they're used in the background for screening
Speaker 5: and some color in the winter fall in winter, so's
Speaker 5: it thrives in full sun to almost full shade, and
Speaker 5: it seems to do best in partial shade and require
Speaker 5: more frequently watering. I's grown in the full sun as
Speaker 5: far as the water needs and all that were a
Speaker 5: little bit out of its league right in here, so
Speaker 5: we have to supplement it a little bit. And I've
Speaker 5: got mine own a drip thing, so it gets water
Speaker 5: when it needs it, and it it just has fairly
Speaker 5: different use of different uses in the in the landscape.
Speaker 5: There are several forms of the burning bush. The standard
Speaker 5: burning bush which just gets kind of large. There's a
Speaker 5: compact burning bush. But don't misconstrue the word. I'm packed
Speaker 5: for dwarf. No no, And as far as I know,
Speaker 5: the no dwarf burning bush anywhere. So the only way
Speaker 5: to make the dwarf is to get your hedge clippers
Speaker 5: out in the winter and cut them back real good.
Speaker 5: Or maybe Kevin could bring his diesel power the way I.
Speaker 4: Got back yet.
Speaker 5: So good thing is it's very tough, easy to grow,
Speaker 5: fair to insect resistant. I've seen some damage with spider
Speaker 5: mites on it, but that's about it. They don't seem
Speaker 5: to hurt it too much. But it doesn't like to
Speaker 5: drop very well. Oh, so be prepared to multi fairly
Speaker 5: heavily and watered occasionally in the wintertime.
Speaker 3: And we have a collar.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, and welcome to the Green Country Gardener program.
Speaker 1: How your question for Larry, Well, I have a comment.
Speaker 12: And Larry was commenting about how nice the greenhouse is now. Well,
Speaker 12: I was in there yesterday. I went into. I came
Speaker 12: to the green house to the nursery to buy some
Speaker 12: and some kale, and went in to check out. And
Speaker 12: I went in. I thought, wow, it's really nice. And
Speaker 12: the lady who checked me out catched me out, said, well,
Speaker 12: it's our new greenhouse and it is delightful. It's worth it.
Speaker 12: It's worth a trip almost. I just wanted to say,
Speaker 12: I couldn't figure out what it was. But when you
Speaker 12: said you had put a new roof on it and
Speaker 12: done some other things, why, I thought, that's it. It's
Speaker 12: paint off.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: So well, after thirty five years, I think it is paid.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it should, it should, it should.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I built that waterfall that I built the waterfall
Speaker 5: in there thirty years ago. It's still working.
Speaker 12: Thereah, it's still there. It's there. We've got a good
Speaker 12: selection of a panity still out there. I was I
Speaker 12: was gratified to see that. And I don't need a
Speaker 12: huge number, but I didn't need some, so it was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we grow those pansies.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we had a big old fleet.
Speaker 5: Of them out back and we exported a lot to
Speaker 5: other nurseries and tells and whatnot.
Speaker 12: Ood.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we did very well with our panzies this year.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we've got another caller and good morning. Welcome
Speaker 2: and please turn your radio down in the background. What
Speaker 2: do you have for Larry today?
Speaker 13: Well, I've gone for City as It's pretty decent five
Speaker 13: not huge, but I'm wanting to move it. And I
Speaker 13: was wondering about if can I cut this rent ball
Speaker 13: in half to divide it to put it into two spots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: For sas a pretty tough plant, so it's chances are
Speaker 5: it will survive when you when you do a replanet,
Speaker 5: give it a good sized root mass, good rootball, and
Speaker 5: then dig a fairly good sized hole and and then
Speaker 5: put some not really a heavy soil, but you might
Speaker 5: want to add some composts or some spark mulch.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and with me moving it now, it would be
Speaker 13: a good time still bloom in the spring.
Speaker 5: You think you'll get it'll pop on a few flowers
Speaker 5: here and there, but it might get it'll it'll pop
Speaker 5: on a few flowers here in there, but it'll probably
Speaker 5: aboard a lot of the blooms just because it takes.
Speaker 3: So much energy.
Speaker 4: Knock it back a little bit, Knock it back a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, for Cythia, golly, you can take a
Speaker 5: branch and bury half of it in the ground now.
Speaker 13: I've done that to get in a couple.
Speaker 4: More starts earlier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're pretty tough plants. But yeah, you've picked
Speaker 5: the right time yere to move it if you wanted
Speaker 5: to move it.
Speaker 13: Okay, alright, but.
Speaker 3: You should have.
Speaker 5: I would say seventy five to eighty five percent success
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 13: Okay, all right, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Very good you thanks for calling.
Speaker 2: All right there you are.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with
Speaker 1: more of your questions and a little bit more knowledge
Speaker 1: from Larry Glass here at one eight hundred seven three six.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to the Green Country Gardner Program. It
Speaker 1: is eight thirty two forty one degrees and our phone
Speaker 1: line is opened for the moment we had on eight
Speaker 1: hundred seven three six laring glass.
Speaker 3: What you got anyway?
Speaker 5: The Bernian bush or the wing Joanimus is a rather
Speaker 5: slow growing shrub and with a little pruning, can be
Speaker 5: up to a much smaller size than its potential maximum.
Speaker 5: When I say pruning, now's the time to get out
Speaker 5: those thirty two cylinder diesel powered hedge clippers.
Speaker 1: You could have done it on Thursday while Folks was
Speaker 1: napping from that trip to fan in.
Speaker 4: The turb Actually fall is delayed a little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's now fall. We had, you know, extended summer.
Speaker 5: They're there and they're kind of a little bit past
Speaker 5: their peak right now. They're still showing you some good color.
Speaker 5: They don't want to do it yet.
Speaker 1: I got carried away. You said thirty two cylinder. I
Speaker 1: was ready to go.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe sixty four.
Speaker 5: But anyway, I have a burning bush along the north
Speaker 5: fence or south fence faces south and every February they
Speaker 5: get cut down to about eighteen inches tall, and you
Speaker 5: have to consider their ultimate growth. They grow maybe twelve
Speaker 5: inches a year, and I don't really want them too
Speaker 5: tall in that situation, because you've got this weeping, big
Speaker 5: old weeping both cypress to the left of it, and
Speaker 5: a big old pride of Houston yopon, which is exhibiting
Speaker 5: a lot of red berries right now, so and I
Speaker 5: don't want them to crowd the landscape, so they have
Speaker 5: to be I do shoot my dowarf jopons to February,
Speaker 5: go through them. I borrowed Kebin's one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: eight cylinder.
Speaker 2: Oh big stuff.
Speaker 3: Hedge clippers and cut.
Speaker 5: You know, the number of cylinders are getting bigger as
Speaker 5: we talk.
Speaker 2: Happened after.
Speaker 4: Story the twenty eight.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it takes that much to get through that stuff anyway,
Speaker 5: and so so it's getting almost time to really start
Speaker 5: doing some serious prunium things now. Yopon holly's. A lot
Speaker 5: of people have these yopon holly's around their house. And
Speaker 5: when we when we moved into our house, it was
Speaker 5: two and a half feet away from the foundation. Well
Speaker 5: they get twenty feet.
Speaker 2: God goodness.
Speaker 5: If you do you want to cut back your yop on holly,
Speaker 5: you want to do it in spring, just before the
Speaker 5: leaves start to grow, typically late.
Speaker 3: February early March. Is you don't want to do it
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 5: If it does, if you do have a warm spill,
Speaker 5: it might spur on some growth and it'll be frozen back.
Speaker 5: So you do want to delay cutting back of your
Speaker 5: yop on holly's at this point too. Same thing with
Speaker 5: the box woods. If you cut them back rather sternly
Speaker 5: at this point, they and we have a like this week,
Speaker 5: an extended warm spell more or less that'll get nipped
Speaker 5: in the cold. So you kind of refrain from that. Now,
Speaker 5: your deciduous shrubs can be cut back, but don't cut
Speaker 5: back your deciduous shrubs.
Speaker 3: That have spring flowers on them.
Speaker 5: You're a li of lecture Forcythia's, your flowering quints, et cetera,
Speaker 5: it zalues. Don't cut them back at this point. Wait
Speaker 5: till after they bloom. Then it's time to cut back
Speaker 5: their growth. On the spring spring blooming plants, their growth
Speaker 5: occurs atturate blooms, and if you cut it back before that,
Speaker 5: you'll miss out on a lot of the flowers. So
Speaker 5: funny thing it wasn't a zilious customer wanted me to
Speaker 5: turn back her Azelius, this is God. This is twenty
Speaker 5: five years ago. In July, I said, July just the
Speaker 5: right time for that. Sure, they start setting their blooms,
Speaker 5: and late July and August it's time to do that.
Speaker 5: She said, Okay, just do what you need to do,
Speaker 5: I'll cut them back to their little hat racks.
Speaker 16: And she, oh, my gosh, what did you do. I said,
Speaker 16: cut them back like you should be if they're going
Speaker 16: to die. No, no, there, they'll be fine. She said, Okay,
Speaker 16: I'll pay you when they come back.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: So they started leafing out again in July and August,
Speaker 5: and they actually they set blooms and in the spring
Speaker 5: it was just a beautiful, massive white blooms. She paid
Speaker 5: her bill. So the timing on these shrubs and when
Speaker 5: their prune is very important. So absolutely, do not cut
Speaker 5: your exelles back at this point because you won't.
Speaker 3: Have any flowers.
Speaker 5: Don't cut back to lilacs, the versithias, the flowering quins,
Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera, viburnums and things that bloom in
Speaker 5: the spring. Do not cut them back at this point
Speaker 5: after they bloom. Immediately after they bloom.
Speaker 2: Roses go in with that or oh.
Speaker 5: Now that they actually you do need to cut back
Speaker 5: your knockouts at this point.
Speaker 4: You yeah, check it.
Speaker 5: And because they grow and develop so quickly in the spring,
Speaker 5: and if you cut them in the spring, all that
Speaker 5: new growth is wasted. So you want to cut them
Speaker 5: back now. So the new growth that comes is utilized
Speaker 5: by the plant to produce flowers and it doesn't have
Speaker 5: to go and regenerate after prime time for that.
Speaker 1: Well, now I know what I'm doing, Yeah, sleeping off
Speaker 1: that turkey, murdering some knockouts.
Speaker 5: So anyway, that's that's some tips and things on the
Speaker 5: wind to cut back your flower and your shrubs and things.
Speaker 3: And I get that, oh my lie, like plants too big,
Speaker 3: and I cut it back, and I.
Speaker 5: Tell them absolutely not a little after they bloom. Immediately
Speaker 5: after they bloom, then you got them back, Okay, So cool.
Speaker 5: That leads us to our annual the week, which is
Speaker 5: kind of one of our favorites around here because it
Speaker 5: does get rather hot here in the summertime. That's Cilusia,
Speaker 5: and it's considered a tender annual. And they had these
Speaker 5: spiky blooms on them and now they were blooming like
Speaker 5: troopers until it got cold the other day. Now they're
Speaker 5: they're they're kind of like a little shrinkage going on there,
Speaker 5: kind of like a wet paper towel right now. Anyway,
Speaker 5: these tender annuals come from tropical Asia and some other
Speaker 5: warm climates, and there are two kinds of Soilusia. One
Speaker 5: type bears brightly colored flowers that resemble a cocks of
Speaker 5: coomin appearance, and the flowers come in a yellow orange
Speaker 5: comes in the peak. The other type has a flower
Speaker 5: that is salt and flipped and fluffy and a feathery plume,
Speaker 5: and they are crimson scarlet or gold yellow tube. They
Speaker 5: blow them all summer and awful. This last late summer,
Speaker 5: this selicia put on a really big show this year.
Speaker 4: It was really quite showy.
Speaker 5: I had some in the backyard, in the front yard,
Speaker 5: we planted some for some customers and it's just a
Speaker 5: brilliant show of red. So they did very well in
Speaker 5: the heat we had this last summer and the drought.
Speaker 5: It didn't seem to mind it too much because I
Speaker 5: didn't go out of my way to water them, and
Speaker 5: he did to do anybody else giuse.
Speaker 2: They just kind of did what they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So they're and that's a good plant to use
Speaker 5: in a in a drought tolerant landscape. We can go
Speaker 5: further into that throughout the winter and drought tolerant plants.
Speaker 5: It seems to be the latest thing with the weather
Speaker 5: man is to give us a dry weather. So he
Speaker 5: needs to get his act together and make it rain
Speaker 5: a little bit more travers.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 5: That leads for our perennialll the week, which is a
Speaker 5: common plant around here and it grows everywhere, and it's
Speaker 5: showing some color right now too. That's a Virginia creeper
Speaker 5: and it's kind of around here, kind of considered a
Speaker 5: weed in some parts of the country, has kind of
Speaker 5: been dangered to so the Virginia creepers parthles is this
Speaker 5: king Cafolia q u i n meaning five five leaves.
Speaker 3: King Cafolia five leaves.
Speaker 5: And it's palmateley compound leaves are not similar to those
Speaker 5: of any other local bond. The only the only other
Speaker 5: woody plant here with palmateley compound leaves is a painted.
Speaker 4: Book eye, which is very rare.
Speaker 5: Actually, Virginia creeper has five leaflets and excellent fall color.
Speaker 5: If you've got structure on which you can grow, you
Speaker 5: can maintain it. Okay, it's h The seeds will attract
Speaker 5: the birds and in doing so you get Virginia.
Speaker 4: Creeper all over the yard.
Speaker 3: There's a want salt trialerant. It could be grown as
Speaker 3: a groundcover.
Speaker 5: They require average moisture and they here to brick, wood
Speaker 5: and bark with five uh curious looking little discs that
Speaker 5: have an adhesive on them, and they attached to your
Speaker 5: brick wall or your woodwall, or your fence or something
Speaker 5: with these five little discs, and if you pull it
Speaker 5: off there it looks like a little puppies round up
Speaker 5: the fence, the five spots on the fence. I have
Speaker 5: some of this in my yard and I kind of
Speaker 5: keep it under control when it grows up on the fence.
Speaker 4: I sort of like it.
Speaker 5: It's kind of a soft accent plant, and when it
Speaker 5: gets out of hand, I just give it a yank.
Speaker 5: There you go and throw it out and it comes
Speaker 5: back looks it's fine. So it's it's a really tough plant,
Speaker 5: and it does have some value in the landscape, but
Speaker 5: it is one that can get out of control. I've
Speaker 5: seen it covering people's houses. It's the point where you
Speaker 5: can't see the house. Yeah, exactly. So it doesn't ring
Speaker 5: quickly too. If you have, say a concrete wall or
Speaker 5: retaining walls like that you want to cover, this would
Speaker 5: be an excellent plant for that because it'll cover it
Speaker 5: fairly quickly, and it's tough. It is deciduous though in
Speaker 5: other words, there's no leaves in the winter time, but
Speaker 5: in the fall that has some pretty good killer on
Speaker 5: it too. You go up down the Adams or Silver
Speaker 5: Lake Road over here at the new part of Silver Lake,
Speaker 5: you can look into the woods over there, being careful.
Speaker 4: Not to drive off, no no, and.
Speaker 5: You can see it actually on the trees from very
Speaker 5: close to the trees. Now it has it doesn't have
Speaker 5: aerial roots to attach like poison ivy. It has these
Speaker 5: little sucker things that attach to the stem. So it
Speaker 5: really doesn't hurt the plant when it crawls out there
Speaker 5: because it doesn't invade the bark inside of it.
Speaker 2: Its a structure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a structure, and it gives you some some
Speaker 5: fall color here and there. But in the landscape it's
Speaker 5: it's difficult to say if this really has any value
Speaker 5: at all, because.
Speaker 4: It does get overdrown and you do have to watch it.
Speaker 2: You have to keep it under control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those pruning cheers in the back pocket.
Speaker 4: You gotta need them.
Speaker 5: I have some on that girl behind the burning bush
Speaker 5: grows up along the rock on the patio, and if
Speaker 5: it gets out of hand, I just take the pruiters
Speaker 5: and cut it and pull it off the wall and
Speaker 5: let it come back a little bit later, just so
Speaker 5: it doesn't get so out of hand. But this is
Speaker 5: one nick. And I've seen houses that are just covered
Speaker 5: with this stuff, absolutely out of hand if you let it.
Speaker 5: And it's so difficult to clear off the house after
Speaker 5: years ago. Yeah, and you get stems big around with
Speaker 5: this microphone.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's us.
Speaker 3: So they do. They can't get to be a bit
Speaker 3: of a pest.
Speaker 2: So let's take a quick break. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: after this two minute time out.
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Green Country Gardener and
Speaker 1: our school. Free number is one eight hundred and seven
Speaker 1: four three six. Learry what's on the agenda?
Speaker 5: Time to plan for your landscape, and it's very important
Speaker 5: I have a plan, uh, at least a well fought
Speaker 5: out plan before uh getting involved with the landscape. And
Speaker 5: that's one thing we offer is a plan. That we've
Speaker 5: done some rather extensive projects this year. Yeah, that's some
Speaker 5: technically complicated projects.
Speaker 1: Also, I saw one before the show and the one
Speaker 1: that you did with a lot of brick and rock
Speaker 1: and yeah, different levels and yeah, you know, you can't
Speaker 1: just walk in and say, oh, what something looks like
Speaker 1: that just throw it together.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. It's kind of complex.
Speaker 5: It is very complicated, and you know the factors we
Speaker 5: have to consider on this and and other projects too.
Speaker 3: Is how's this going to drain?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you different elevations?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then and then you have.
Speaker 5: The slope you have to calculate too from the downspouts
Speaker 5: a two percent slope by two percent because the water
Speaker 5: has a velocity in a carry debris out in other words,
Speaker 5: but not.
Speaker 1: Carry everything out, everything away, whole thing you need that slough,
Speaker 1: do you need a slope to carry it away?
Speaker 5: And make sure you have a two percent slope. What
Speaker 5: we do is we use a four foot level and
Speaker 5: to get two percent, use a half inch.
Speaker 3: Pizza pipe on.
Speaker 5: One end of the level and zero on the other
Speaker 5: and attach it to a big old ten foot long pipe.
Speaker 5: And then you do the scent line of your trench
Speaker 5: with the level sitting level, and that way you get
Speaker 5: your two percent. And likewise, when we do paving, we
Speaker 5: use a one percent. Then we use a half inch
Speaker 5: shim if you will, on there to get our one
Speaker 5: percent slope. So it's very simple and it's kind of Egyptian.
Speaker 4: But it works. It worked for them the pair level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?
Speaker 5: So anyway, so planning is very important, and you've got
Speaker 5: a plan for unforeseen circumstances. So if you do retain
Speaker 5: your walls, then you do patios and all that.
Speaker 3: You might want to go ahead and.
Speaker 5: Put some sleeves in there for some future irrigation, outdoor
Speaker 5: lighting and things like that.
Speaker 3: On the on the landscape, and on this one.
Speaker 5: Particular project we did, we provided for that, and there's
Speaker 5: there's still a few surplus little pipes going through for
Speaker 5: the other things with it too. So it helps to
Speaker 5: have a comprehensive plan that not only horizontally but vertically
Speaker 5: accounts for what's going on with the landscape. In other words,
Speaker 5: the water has to slope away from the house. Another
Speaker 5: thing we honor very stringently is the is the the
Speaker 5: floor elevation in the house. When we do a landscape,
Speaker 5: we go to the front door and follow the brick
Speaker 5: line or something, or do a level and we find
Speaker 5: out where the floor elevation of the house is, and
Speaker 5: we start below that and let it slope away so
Speaker 5: you don't get water in the house. I've seen that
Speaker 5: so many times where they do a landscape and they
Speaker 5: put a wallet next to the house without accounting for
Speaker 5: it for the floor elevation, and next thing you know,
Speaker 5: you have dry rot on your tuba.
Speaker 3: Fours cool.
Speaker 5: So all these things are count for to Another thing
Speaker 5: is also the soil type you have to.
Speaker 3: Account for, and the.
Speaker 5: Exposure sign or shade, and the trees are there, and
Speaker 5: the drainage also. And another thing you have to consider
Speaker 5: is how willing is the customer going to be to
Speaker 5: maintain these landscapes.
Speaker 3: You don't want to create one. It's just too hard
Speaker 3: for them to maintain.
Speaker 5: So it make it simple for them to do that
Speaker 5: and it'll come out just fine. I've seen some landscapes
Speaker 5: around these people who can barely walk and you have
Speaker 5: to do something with them every day, and we try
Speaker 5: to avoid that by using shrubs that don't get very
Speaker 5: large and make making sure the journe eage works, coming
Speaker 5: up with a good border an edge around it, either
Speaker 5: the steel edge.
Speaker 3: Or we don't.
Speaker 4: You like to use a rubber edge. It always pops
Speaker 4: up in the freeze.
Speaker 5: But one popular thing is a concrete and a stone
Speaker 5: edge too. That's a pop or brick edge. We've done
Speaker 5: some brick edge landscapes that really set the house off,
Speaker 5: depending on the architecture of the house, really set it
Speaker 5: off nicely. So there's a lot of factors to consider
Speaker 5: when doing a landscape. It's not just fairy dust and.
Speaker 4: And all that.
Speaker 5: You have to really do some heavy planning on it.
Speaker 5: And sometimes a landscape installation takes more time then you
Speaker 5: really think. And we ran into that this this fall
Speaker 5: with the project and golly what a mess. We got
Speaker 5: it done though, turned out very nice. So it's always
Speaker 5: a good time to plan your landscape so you know
Speaker 5: what's what's happening when it's coming up. And we do
Speaker 5: give you the option to choose what materials you might
Speaker 5: want to want for the walls or the retaining walls
Speaker 5: or paving or plant materials too. You can you can
Speaker 5: look at it and say I don't like that, and
Speaker 5: then get on the software and just change it out
Speaker 5: and get something that that you do.
Speaker 2: Like the next thing. You know, you're all good.
Speaker 5: But if you like it, and I'll say, well, that's
Speaker 5: going to be a lot of maintenance, do you really
Speaker 5: want to do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are right, Okay.
Speaker 5: So that leads us kind of to our another tree
Speaker 5: of the week, which is a dogwood tree.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty popular tree and actually at.
Speaker 5: My house on Mars, I do have a dog with
Speaker 5: tree that's doing very well. It's in the right right environment.
Speaker 5: It's shielded from the afternoon sun. And actually it's had
Speaker 5: some seeds come up, and last fall I transplanted them
Speaker 5: to other places in.
Speaker 3: The yard and they're doing very well.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: They're about the shoulder high.
Speaker 5: Now that the seed leagues are next week, I'm sure
Speaker 5: they'll be blooming there.
Speaker 4: That one of them looks like I might put on
Speaker 4: a flower or two.
Speaker 5: But the other, the other one isn't. It's still kind
Speaker 5: of small, I know. But the dogwood is a native,
Speaker 5: an Eastern native understory tree. It's got kind of some
Speaker 5: year round interested if you will. White blooms typically in
Speaker 5: April and May. And each flower is actually four bracts.
Speaker 5: What you see on the petals, they're not really petals.
Speaker 5: Those are what you call bracts, be r a ct s.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing with point setios. The point setia
Speaker 5: bloom we see. The red thing is not a true flowers,
Speaker 5: it's a bract. And yeah, with true flowers, a whole
Speaker 5: lot of little flowers in the center. It's totally with
Speaker 5: of about three inches the fruit of bright red maturing
Speaker 5: and fall, and the foliage is an attractive even a
Speaker 5: green color held in the fall. But it's a very
Speaker 5: attractive fall color anywhere from red to purple depending on
Speaker 5: the situation. And this plant does pretty well here. It
Speaker 5: doesn't like wet feet, it doesn't does not, and it
Speaker 5: doesn't like a lot of hot sun. This summer was
Speaker 5: a test for a dog with in the hot sun,
Speaker 5: and a lot of them didn't do too well.
Speaker 3: That traditionally in the past have done very well in
Speaker 3: the open.
Speaker 5: So they're going to have to do some recovery and
Speaker 5: some pruning necessary to pune out all the dead part
Speaker 5: of the branch got killed off in the and they
Speaker 5: so they do like some shielding from the hot afterning sun,
Speaker 5: then they'll do just fine.
Speaker 2: Very good.
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Speaker 6: Jane Phillips and Bartlesville.
Speaker 19: From the time Frank Phillips completed his magnificent Lodge home
Speaker 19: at Woolla Rock in nineteen twenty five until Jane's death
Speaker 19: in nineteen forty eight, they entertained the rich and the
Speaker 19: famous from all over the world. Their guests included wealthy
Speaker 19: business legends such as John D. Rockefeller and Henry Sinclair,
Speaker 19: politicians such as President Harry Truman and President Herbert Hoover,
Speaker 19: entertainers Rudy Valley, Will Rogers and Rubinoff, famous authors such
Speaker 19: as Edna Ferber, Pilot Wiley Post, Elliott Roosevelt, son of
Speaker 19: President Roosevelt. The list goes on and on. As we
Speaker 19: look back on the parties and the stories and the
Speaker 19: deals that were being done at the lodge, we realized
Speaker 19: that it truly was the Great Gatsby of the Midwest.
Speaker 19: To most of Frank's guests, who were visiting from the
Speaker 19: East or West coast, and many times from Europe, they
Speaker 19: were truly seen a glimpse of the wild West that
Speaker 19: they had heard so much about, while in fact that
Speaker 19: era was long over by then. Frank Phillips loved the
Speaker 19: history and wanted to do everything he could to make
Speaker 19: sure that his guests received there's money's worth during their
Speaker 19: visit to his lodge and to Woollarock. With that in mind,
Speaker 19: it was not unusual for a car load of his
Speaker 19: guests to arrive at the gates of Woolarock and their
Speaker 19: large black sedans and be stopped by masked bandits on horseback,
Speaker 19: taken from their cars and robbed of their wallets, jewelry,
Speaker 19: and purses, and then sent on.
Speaker 2: Their way by the thieves.
Speaker 19: What those guests didn't realize is that these were employees
Speaker 19: of Franks, who hurried back to the lodge on horseback,
Speaker 19: arriving well ahead of the cars. When the guests arrived
Speaker 19: at the lodge and burst into the house telling their
Speaker 19: wild and terrifying story to Frank, he would smile and
Speaker 19: point to the table in the living room where the
Speaker 19: stolen loot was on display, compliments of Uncle Frank. Once
Speaker 19: their blood pressure had returned to normal, they too enjoyed
Speaker 19: Frank's welcome to the Ranch joke. They came to see
Speaker 19: the wild West, and Frank Phillips obliged in true Oklahoma fashion,
Speaker 19: and they left Woollarock with stories that likely got bigger
Speaker 19: and bigger and bigger over the years. That same magic
Speaker 19: continues still today at this national treasure.
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Speaker 1: Alrighty folks, it is eight fifty seven. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Green Country Gardner Program. He's Larry Glass, I'm Tom Davis,
Speaker 1: and what you got on the.
Speaker 3: Anyway punt Setta's right now.
Speaker 5: They're actually very easy to care for house plants quote
Speaker 5: unquote in their native country of Mexico. They can become
Speaker 5: leggy bushes, reaching up to ten feet tall.
Speaker 2: Leggy bushes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you need to cut a hole in the
Speaker 5: ceiling so the thing will grow up. Ah, However, most
Speaker 5: people grow them as a seasonal fire plant during the
Speaker 5: holidays right now. And actually I have know the customers
Speaker 5: who have been able to keep theirs going for years and.
Speaker 4: Years and years.
Speaker 2: Really now, yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to work at
Speaker 2: a TV station. Those things get killed.
Speaker 3: I think it's because they.
Speaker 2: Didn't know what they're doing.
Speaker 5: Well, there are you for me Pulcherima genus and species
Speaker 5: or remember the Euphorbia family there. So they're kind of
Speaker 5: drought tolerant too. Anyway, they do pretty well outside and
Speaker 5: landscape in the summertime, but as soon as he gets
Speaker 5: you know, like thirty one point nine degrees, well they
Speaker 5: kind of kick over. They do not take absolutely, do
Speaker 5: not take any freeze at all.
Speaker 1: The thing was, we had a lady whose only job
Speaker 1: was to come in and water them as necessary, and
Speaker 1: then after like New Years, she stopped coming around.
Speaker 2: Next thing, things looking bad. They had to clear them
Speaker 2: off to the TV side.
Speaker 5: But anyway, they have a color for an extended period
Speaker 5: of time, so they're really quite showing the house, and
Speaker 5: then points that as the flowers, the red things just see.
Speaker 3: Are not really the blooms. Those are modified leaves.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: We talked about the dogs, same kind of thing. And
Speaker 5: what's in the middle, that yellow in the middle or
Speaker 5: the blooms.
Speaker 2: Actually that's it.
Speaker 5: At this point in time though, the blooms in the middle,
Speaker 5: she had just barely being opened. It's almost December, I
Speaker 5: see what tomorrow, Yeah, about twelve hours there. Okay, well
Speaker 5: popped and open. But but anyway, the flowers are in
Speaker 5: the middle, and you want to look at the how
Speaker 5: far along the flowers are in the middle, And if
Speaker 5: they're starting to shrivel up a little bit, well you've
Speaker 5: got a plant that's been around a little too long. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you might look at the don't look at the
Speaker 5: blooms themselves, but look at the actually the real booms
Speaker 5: in the middle. How far along the plant is. And
Speaker 5: we try to present plants that are very well ready
Speaker 5: to go into the house at any time this time
Speaker 5: of year, not something in you know, August.
Speaker 3: But well right now too.
Speaker 5: So they will get up to ten feet tall if
Speaker 5: you let them, but I don't think they'll do it here.
Speaker 5: It gets a little chili in the fall for them
Speaker 5: to do that. And typically what we have right now
Speaker 5: are the red ones. They seem to be the most
Speaker 5: popular ones, and some of the other colors are starting
Speaker 5: to lose a little popularity and people are going more
Speaker 5: traditional seems lately with the red points.
Speaker 3: That is, so, we got plenty of those. Keep them
Speaker 3: slightly moist, but makes sure it is well drained.
Speaker 5: And they should do okay, a whole lot of light
Speaker 5: and avoid cold spells and keep them away from the
Speaker 5: duck to heating ducts and all that.
Speaker 3: They should do just fine, and all they tom got
Speaker 3: what a week?
Speaker 5: Huh uh huh. Keep that shovel sharp. We will see
Speaker 5: you next week, all right.
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