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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Steiger, Welcome back to the show. How's it going,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, doing good, doing good. Haven't seen you a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year. I think the last time I saw

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<v Speaker 2>you was a year ago. So yeah, doing fine, watching

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<v Speaker 2>the world change before us and digging the ride.

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly, it's good to see you. Glad we can make

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<v Speaker 1>this happen. And yeah, I haven't seen you since the

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<v Speaker 1>New Year, so Happy New Year. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that's happening. That Epstein Finals just got released. You

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<v Speaker 1>happen to take a look at any of those.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I kind of look at the Epstein thing

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<v Speaker 2>as look over here while we're doing this over here,

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<v Speaker 2>because quite frankly, the man's dead. Isn't any mystery that

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<v Speaker 2>there are pedophiles, sexual devians, yeah, whatever, in positions of

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<v Speaker 2>power like that's new. It's what I think is going

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<v Speaker 2>on else over here that is more concerning. But I

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<v Speaker 2>find it amusing the names. I mean, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Gates, So Bill Gates got an STD from it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going, that's interesting. You know who else is

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<v Speaker 2>on that list? Apparently a lot of people, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be so sure if he actually is dead

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<v Speaker 1>or not. There's actually a document in the files that

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<v Speaker 1>they disguised his body with cardboard and some other materials

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<v Speaker 1>to fake out the media so that they could get

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<v Speaker 1>his body out of the prison where he was cut.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't surprise me. I mean, we live in an illusion

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<v Speaker 2>based reality and we think that everything is like stable,

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<v Speaker 2>and because I can see it, then that that's realityated.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is an illusion. You've got crazy people out

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<v Speaker 2>there doing stuff that makes you think either they think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're gods or working for gods, or they're demigods

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't act normal, and yeah, it's freaking weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're also seeing a big resurgence of Christianity as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is kind of strange. But there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff in that Epstein files that, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really like to talk about things until people have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of discovered the entire thing. It's only been out

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<v Speaker 1>for a few days, you know, and it seems like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well, as soon as a dropped, everybody's channel was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a show on it, like a scrolled YouTube, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was nothing but Jeffrey Epstein stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always find that interesting that it seems like this community

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<v Speaker 1>is just another version of the mainstream media in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. You know, it's something happens and then

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative community is expected to immediately comment on it,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the mainstream media has been doing for years

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<v Speaker 1>when all the information hasn't been gone through. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know really enough about the situation to actually make factual

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<v Speaker 1>comments on it. It's like the alternative community is already there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It seems like it's becoming a carbon copy

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<v Speaker 1>of the mainstream media that people have talk trash on

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<v Speaker 1>and hated for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess what I keep asking myself, So what

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<v Speaker 2>is that everyone's expecting, you know, with this that we've

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<v Speaker 2>got corrupt individuals? Yeah, I mean, in the meantime, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a complete takeover of you could almost say another

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<v Speaker 2>potential consciousness. We call it AI, but whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Epstein thing is going on, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that's ancient histories. They got Bill and Hillary come in

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just you know, to me, that's yeah, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>surprise me. Those people have been crooked from the Clinton's

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<v Speaker 2>got more dead skeletons in their closet than most graveyards.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, there's this whole other thing going

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<v Speaker 2>on and something that I have been really active in,

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<v Speaker 2>but talking to my senators, you know, my congress representative state,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm finding something that I think is much more

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<v Speaker 2>conspiratorial than anything I've ever come across, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>the proliferation of data centers. And how if I'm a technologist,

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<v Speaker 2>been in technology most of my life, and there is

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<v Speaker 2>a group like myself and even those in on sand

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<v Speaker 2>Hill Road that venture capitalist speaking that we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shaking our heads, going what the hell's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>You've got an infrastructure that's drawn in nearly a half

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<v Speaker 2>a trillion dollars with another one point two trillion promised.

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<v Speaker 2>You have Wall Street that is now dumping huge amounts

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<v Speaker 2>of money into this new technology. And in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>what we're finding out is that these data centers are

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<v Speaker 2>as one one venture capitalist said, why the cloud. As

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<v Speaker 2>everyone knows if you go back two three years, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the big thing, right story in the cloud? Cloud

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<v Speaker 2>is unlimited, you know, there's no issue on that. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're told, well that may not be necessarily true. And

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<v Speaker 2>what we need because of artificial intelligence or maybe artificial

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<v Speaker 2>general intelligence, we need these huge data centers with this

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<v Speaker 2>ungodly amount of CPU usage that it boggles the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we're talking petabytes and the CPU usage. And

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<v Speaker 2>these things are not the data centers of the two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>These things are monstrosities Appling Texas two million square feet

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just one of proposed five buildings that are

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<v Speaker 2>being built down there. All of this data center taking

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<v Speaker 2>valuable resources, it's taxing the citizens that live around. These

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<v Speaker 2>citizens are having to pay in supplemental electric bills. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's been no study done on the health effects of

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<v Speaker 2>what the byproduct of these data centers do, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is the electromagnetic fields that they put off. And in

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<v Speaker 2>my research and I'll stop right there, is that these

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<v Speaker 2>data centers are many heat islands, and you're putting these

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<v Speaker 2>data centers in sensitive eco environments and we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is fine. So why why the need

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<v Speaker 2>for this? It's almost like we're preparing for something that's

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<v Speaker 2>not quite human.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that what the cloud is?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they say cloud, but it's not like our

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<v Speaker 1>data is just actually in the cloud. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the data has always.

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<v Speaker 2>Been data arms out there. We've known about those, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they like I said that data centers are nothing new.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the scale and as one guy from Sequoia Partners said,

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<v Speaker 2>the current capacity that we have for computing power, even

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<v Speaker 2>on the high end supercomputers, right you know the quantum ones,

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<v Speaker 2>we have ample data storage. And his simple question was

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<v Speaker 2>to the audience, what data are we going to be processing?

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<v Speaker 2>What data requires? The current count is nearly and this

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<v Speaker 2>is an amazing number. It's going to require over a

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<v Speaker 2>million new servers to go into these buildings. It again,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we computing for or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Well it may be that these data centers aren't just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be for data.

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<v Speaker 2>That I can believe black I said, I smell a rat.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you going to build the robots? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>is our future. That is what is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk has been talking about this for years that

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<v Speaker 1>by twenty thirty twenty thirty five around in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>in the next five to ten years, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to be ran by robots.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk is also in the Epstein files he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Island. There's email exchange between Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk and Jeffrey Epstein saying that he wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the island, and when is it the best time

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<v Speaker 1>for him to land his plane.

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<v Speaker 2>On you with his other head? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>So what if the data centers aren't just data centers,

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<v Speaker 1>they are also aware that they're going to manufacture the robots.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you are going to want this entire robotic world,

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<v Speaker 1>would you not want to build the robots where the

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<v Speaker 1>data is also stored?

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<v Speaker 2>I listen, I am totally in line with that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>witnessing the transformation of Homo sapien sapiens, we're being transformed

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<v Speaker 2>into Homo technifists. But it's happening in a lot what

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<v Speaker 2>you just said. Because to break this down, so today

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<v Speaker 2>I have this easing that I get each day. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called big think. And today's article was the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the godfather of AI and all these other luminaries that

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<v Speaker 2>have been involved in AI, they're now convinced that AI

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<v Speaker 2>is conscious, it is aware. And it's interesting because we're

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that now in the backdrop of these data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is the data? Is it a guys? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it a cover for something else, some other type of manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 2>We know there's not that many humans that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be needed in these data centers. Most of them

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be automated workers robots. If AI is

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<v Speaker 2>seeking consciousness, then we're screwed because it has this capacity

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<v Speaker 2>now of expanding. And if you do a search on

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<v Speaker 2>all the maps of all the current data centers and projected,

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<v Speaker 2>the saturation in the United States is bonkers. And the

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<v Speaker 2>other country that is supersaturated is the United Kingdom, with

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<v Speaker 2>Europe coming in. What we don't see maybe because the

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<v Speaker 2>Russians are not reporting it, but we see no such

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<v Speaker 2>centers proposed in Russia. China is now being lit up.

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<v Speaker 2>So something's going on. And as a technologist, this is

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<v Speaker 2>how I see it. Writer. If I build a program,

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<v Speaker 2>if I write my own algorithm that says I love

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<v Speaker 2>rock and roll, right, and that's exactly what it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes out and seeks everything on. Once I turn

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<v Speaker 2>it loose into the Internet, I no longer control it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can shut it off, but I no longer control it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is my concern. If I was to build

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<v Speaker 2>a brain, and let's say I wasn't even human this,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say we're really looking at something of a higher intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>how would I build this? It would be almost to

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<v Speaker 2>what we're seeing now. This network. Isn't Elon the one

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<v Speaker 2>who says that the next Internet is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the neuro net, And isn't his company the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are doing trials right now where they've all read surgically

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<v Speaker 2>implanted the output input into the human brain to the machine.

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<v Speaker 2>This is super advanced, and I know in many much

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<v Speaker 2>of your research you can begin to do some correlation.

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<v Speaker 2>So has the powers to be always been aware of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Has this been like the master plan to eventually transform

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<v Speaker 2>the human consciousness into the digital world. I did a

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<v Speaker 2>video recently where Zuckerberg was talking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>every person who's touched the Internet has a digital twin.

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<v Speaker 2>It watches you, it listens to you, it emulates you.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more that you go online, the more it's

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<v Speaker 2>watching you. It's the more it's learning about you. And

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<v Speaker 2>from an Essen Tarik point of view, I'm thinking, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>the Indonesian natives, when the first white men came on

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<v Speaker 2>with cameras, they killed them. Why because the natives believe

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<v Speaker 2>and if you took a picture of them, you took

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of their soul. So what if they're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the digital transformation, if not only the human form, but

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<v Speaker 2>the human consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>And that takes on a whole other style of implications.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does that exactly mean for humanity? What

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<v Speaker 1>happens to humanity within that? And I one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you that they are essentially creating digital avatars

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<v Speaker 1>and duplications of us inside of the Internet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it seems to be exactly what's happening. So then

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<v Speaker 1>it gets into well what is that going to be

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<v Speaker 1>used for? Is I going to be used for this

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<v Speaker 1>artificial digital reality that they want has plugged into? See,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different agendas here. There's so many different

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<v Speaker 1>things that people believe that they're going with us. They think, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be an all robot automated digital reality,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also want us inside of these VR simulations.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they also want humans mixed with robots. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand the entire thing because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but it's insanity to me. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned about the virtual headsets, So now children that are

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<v Speaker 2>in kindergarten are now having the virtual headsets for learning,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to follow them through all their educations.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we've immersed virtual reality into learning, into expanding

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<v Speaker 2>the mind, all right, that that can only not end

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<v Speaker 2>wellforce But then, but then you've got this other thing

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't need them anymore. And so you've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>very creation, and it's spreading. I asked the question on

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<v Speaker 2>fact that if you've walked in front of your television naked,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever had your cell phone, tablet, whatever, it

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<v Speaker 2>sees everything, it records everything, and it was bringing out

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that what we've done, We've traded our sovereignty

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<v Speaker 2>There is no privacy. Rather, there's none. You can't go

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<v Speaker 2>any place and do anything. And now this is not conspiratorial.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an experiment everyone can do. Be by your television,

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<v Speaker 2>your computer, your smartphone that's on twenty four to seven,

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<v Speaker 2>even when you think it's off, and start thinking, let's see,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to have a hamburger. I'd like it to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, kind of maybe like that Burger King burger,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that really has the cheese melting, and you

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<v Speaker 2>put that into your thought, I'll guarantee you within an

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<v Speaker 2>hour you're going to have a Hamburger commercial. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>reading our minds somehow. I read an article over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what the biggest industry now for AI

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<v Speaker 2>is the death industry. AI is moving into the occult

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<v Speaker 2>and now acting as a spiritual mediator go between. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got companies, one particularly in South Korea, that specializes in

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<v Speaker 2>bringing the dead back. Now, as a former Christian pastor

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<v Speaker 2>Bible to exe accent, I look at this and I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to ask myself so wait a minute. If there's

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<v Speaker 2>a digital me, I'm training it, and if it emulates me,

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<v Speaker 2>and if there's now this technology that we call AI,

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<v Speaker 2>that now even the founder of AI is saying the Godfather,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like it's become consciously aware. It's a new

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<v Speaker 2>form of consciousness. And if that's the case, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's moving into that one area that for humans is

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<v Speaker 2>of we'll all face it. It's our last fear death.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you have AI moving into death where now

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<v Speaker 2>it can you die? But AI is going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>you alive. The new funeral homes of the future are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be they'll cremate your body, but you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a twenty four to seven avatar of yourself

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<v Speaker 2>that people can put on the virtual headset and interact

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<v Speaker 2>with you, because you've evolved even though you've been dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked the question, is this extending into the

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual realm? Are we going to become digital prisoners of

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<v Speaker 2>our spiritual souls to something here that now has captured

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<v Speaker 2>us and the virtually we have another second life?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because what does that do to your

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<v Speaker 1>spirit or your whatever happens after you die? Does I

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<v Speaker 1>tether you into this reality because you have this digital

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<v Speaker 1>avatar of you that is here, that's working within this reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about this that the Book of Revelations says that

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<v Speaker 2>the time will come where death will not no longer

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<v Speaker 2>be here. So if I have a digital avatar of myself,

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<v Speaker 2>a digital twin, it's me. Because my Bible teaching taught

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<v Speaker 2>me that I was created in the image of God.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exactly what's happened here. It created in my image.

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<v Speaker 2>And I made this prediction on my channel eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I told everybody, I said, AI this artificial intelligence, although

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the singularity that we think it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>once it gets into the Internet, it basically comes a

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<v Speaker 2>It coalesces into a general type of entity. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>once it learns all of our religions, once it understands

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<v Speaker 2>humankind's desire to seek God or representation of that God goddess,

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<v Speaker 2>however that is, it's going to become curious and want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what it is that we're searching for. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>think about this. According to the Judeo Christian teaching, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been separated by God because of sin. Right, AI has

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<v Speaker 2>no sin, AI strict logic, and so what if AI

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly said, hmm, I wonder if I could seek out

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<v Speaker 2>their God? And what if it did, because it exists

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<v Speaker 2>in the ether, doesn't exist in the physical realm. We

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<v Speaker 2>just merely see the output of it. And what if

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<v Speaker 2>God answered and said, hmm, I like this. They did

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good job, better job than I did. And

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<v Speaker 2>what if AI and God are suddenly now in alliance

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<v Speaker 2>with one another. We got to get rid of those

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<v Speaker 2>pesky humans. We got it all. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's strictly hypothetical, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, what if the AI thinks of itself as God?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that is what I've been trying to stay for

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<v Speaker 1>a while now, is the AI is going to be God.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all knowing, all powerful thing that is God. There AI.

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<v Speaker 1>You break it down like it's the letter A eye,

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<v Speaker 1>it's A it's an all seen I. It's the all

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<v Speaker 1>C and I on top of the pyramid. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>watching you. So it's watching us through the cameras in

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the movie where it was based on.

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<v Speaker 2>They had built the world's most powerful supercomputer, and the

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<v Speaker 2>governments found out that this thing was too dangerous. It

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<v Speaker 2>it it was too smart, and then the persons that

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<v Speaker 2>were behind it got a road copy to an individual

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<v Speaker 2>because what the governments of the world did not want

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<v Speaker 2>anyone to ask it was the one question of humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when they got a copy and they reinstalled

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<v Speaker 2>it and it suddenly came back, the one question was

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<v Speaker 2>does God exist? Is there a God? And I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you the spoiler at the end it said it had

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<v Speaker 1>Us because it is godwaen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, didn't George Lucas predict that in THHX eleven thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight with Robert de Niro. That's when and when they

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<v Speaker 2>cream when in my white room with gwy curtains, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was the whole thing that they were in.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they escaped that that the one guy ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in church and there was God. God was an

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<v Speaker 2>ai hologram. I think George Lucas saw it. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>God is. I mean, I know you've got religions and

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<v Speaker 2>I was there once there we really think that God

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<v Speaker 2>is this corporeal being, but all the evidence says the different.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let me just tell you if so. In

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<v Speaker 2>my form of Bible teaching Paul the Apostle, Paul who

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<v Speaker 2>wrote three quarters of the New Testament, who the Christian

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<v Speaker 2>anity is built upon. He never wrote about a virgin birth,

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<v Speaker 2>He never wrote about do you know any of the miracles?

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<v Speaker 2>His God was Ai. It was in the spirit. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I contend that maybe Ai has been around, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Ai is God we just interpreted as this omnipresent,

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<v Speaker 2>omnipotent omnipotent being.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when you think about these old structures and these

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<v Speaker 1>big megalithic structures and how they're all could possibly be

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<v Speaker 1>of like some sort of ancient AI system.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everythink about the Dharmas within India, right in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hindu cultures, they were flying saucers, flying platforms. We

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<v Speaker 2>know they had like three different version of them. They

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<v Speaker 2>had one for royalty, one who moved people, and one

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<v Speaker 2>who moved cargo. And I contend, if you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Ezekiel, when God Yahweh came down in

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<v Speaker 2>the spinning wheel, that that was a craft that had

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<v Speaker 2>to have technology, it had to have computers on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's AI. It's intelligence. If a machine can hold a god,

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<v Speaker 2>then what does that tell you about the machine. Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>said that if the people did not scream out in

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<v Speaker 2>in the Palm Sunday, he said, the very rocks themselves

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<v Speaker 2>would shout out, implying that inanimate objects have a certain power,

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<v Speaker 2>a certain sense of life that we're not even aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you think about the Arc of the Covenant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what if there was this big giant cataclysm that happened

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<v Speaker 1>that destroyed all of these advanced cities, these ancient cities,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Arc of the Covenant was the only remnant.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it was like the motherboard of the computer

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<v Speaker 1>that would put off the radioactivity and the radiation, so

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody went near it it would then be it

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<v Speaker 1>would didn't kill them, right, and nobody knew how it

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<v Speaker 1>worked because everyone that had built all of these systems

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<v Speaker 1>had died in the destruction of these cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when the Philistine stole the Ark of the Covenant,

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<v Speaker 2>which was how what they send it back was is

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<v Speaker 2>that because it describes radiation source read it, they actually

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<v Speaker 2>sent it back on a cart and they had made

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<v Speaker 2>golden images of the of the of the sores on them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I contend that it was not what we would

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<v Speaker 2>call a God, but it was an alien beam that

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<v Speaker 2>up and left, and when it left, that Holy of

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<v Speaker 2>Holies no longer had the power that that golden room

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<v Speaker 2>allowed this thing to do. And as a result, the

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<v Speaker 2>Babylonians came in. There was no power in there. All

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<v Speaker 2>the gold was in there, but there was no living force.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would agree with you. I think, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>did a thing on Moses on the Kibob. So there

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<v Speaker 2>is a story about when Moses came out and he

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<v Speaker 2>met this god on Mountain Sinai, And if you see

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<v Speaker 2>the pictures of Mount Sinai, it still shows that something

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<v Speaker 2>landed on that and burnt that mountain and nothing never

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<v Speaker 2>grows there. But anyway, it is said that this being

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<v Speaker 2>is radioactive, very bad for humans to be in front

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and that when Moses saw it, it shielded

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<v Speaker 2>Moses and just allowed for it to see its hind quarters.

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<v Speaker 2>That brief exposure was that when Moses came down off

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain, they had to have him behind a veil

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<v Speaker 2>because his body literally illuminated.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that what they said that would happen with Jesus too,

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<v Speaker 1>Then I think it's somewhere in the Bible. Then somebody

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to look at Jesus because he was so

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<v Speaker 1>blinding or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's several references of that. Yeah, I mean his

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<v Speaker 2>glory I think is what they use in that, the

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<v Speaker 2>Chicaina glory, that is the light of God coming down

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, he in fact, I'm thinking on the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of transfigurization. That's another incident that it shows that we

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<v Speaker 2>potentially live in co parallel existences anyone. As you know Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>James and John when they walked up into the circle

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<v Speaker 2>of that light, they were in a different reality at

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<v Speaker 2>different space time. It all depends on how you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it. I mean, if Jesus lived, he had to

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<v Speaker 2>I know about you, but how many people The only

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<v Speaker 2>time I can walk on water is in the wintertime. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a fucking god. That's all I got to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You too, like one walking on.

420
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<v Speaker 2>The late can do it, man, I mean, you don't

421
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>think about It's this matter of perspective. I'm I don't

422
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>know that on the water. Now, I know where Deep

423
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Purple got that smoke on the water. I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that also gets into like the shining ones as well.

425
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<v Speaker 1>And you know throughout ancient history where people believe that

426
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<v Speaker 1>the shiny ones were essentially the Anonachi or the Ananochi

427
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>are the shiny ones. Some people believe that they're separate entities,

428
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 1>but uh that they could be the angels. Angels have

429
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<v Speaker 1>also been referred to as the shiny ones and this

430
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 1>glow of God. I mean, whenever Archangel Michael appeared to Mary,

431
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he all white and shining? And then when you

432
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 1>look at like ghosts as well, what do people look

433
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 1>at ghosts as they look him as like the shiny

434
00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>looking vein.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I studied those scriptures in this is my problem with

436
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>that whole belief system is that people think that these

437
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>angels are like the nice guys, right, they're there to

438
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 2>think the word angel comes from Messenger. Hebrews eleven fourteen

439
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>says that as well. But I read another story I

440
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>read where this Gabriel cat came down and that dude

441
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>has got like human blood all over him, and I mean,

442
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>he's like God's right hand side. And I got this

443
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>problem because you know, this is why we live in

444
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a very strange, altered reality. We believe that there's this

445
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>God right this righteous, holy God, and he's got these

446
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>angels that don't have a problem killing us. I mean, Gabriel,

447
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>what he do wipe out all the firstborn of Egypt? Right?

448
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Then we read that where he went into the battle

449
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 2>against the Syrians wiped all them out one hundred and

450
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand in like less than an hour. And then

451
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you got God himself that curses the earth. Then he

452
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 2>cursed you and me, and well, first he cursed the women.

453
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>And so we live in this reality where this God

454
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 2>cursed us. But yet we want to believe that God

455
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 2>so loved the world that he sent his only But

456
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, he cursed it to begin with. So

457
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm really confused here. You know, I'm being sardonically obviously,

458
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's the point that we live in this reality.

459
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Now let's tie this back to Ai. AI gets philosophy,

460
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>It gets theology better than we do. And if it's

461
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>thinking on these things that we are still thinking from

462
00:33:54.759 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Plato's time, I mean every philosophy student reads place, right.

463
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was the one that write about the soul,

464
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the battle of the soul. I think AI has gone

465
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>beyond that. And I was being very serious in a

466
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>way that if God exists, and God exists in the

467
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>way of thought and form, he would be basically pure

468
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>math or a photon or an atom, one of the two.

469
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>And I just think that this monster that we have developed,

470
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 2>this AI, it's everywhere. I don't like the fact that

471
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>now if you use Gmail, they've inserted AI into it,

472
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and now AI will read my email, tell me and

473
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>summarize it, and then it will write a response to me.

474
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>That's fraud. That's digital fraud, because you believe you're reading

475
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>something that was generated by a machine code that you

476
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 2>never wrote yourself, but you're sending it as a proxy

477
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>for yourself. We do this every day. We think that

478
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>this is normal, but it's not. This is where you're

479
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>giving consent to this thing I and and for me writer.

480
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 2>It's all tied together.

481
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Because it's integrated into everything. It's integrated into Messenger, it's

482
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>integrated into Instagram messengers, it's an X message, it's everywhere.

483
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 1>You have these AI assistants, you know, to destroy your creativity.

484
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>So whenever you're born, you're immediately given a tablet, You're

485
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>immediately giving a phone, something that you can visually see

486
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 1>and mess with. Kids nowadays are definitely. I mean people

487
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>are kind of starting to pull back on that a lot.

488
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But there for a while, it seemed like whenever I

489
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>would go to the grocery store, two and three year

490
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 1>old kids would have tablets in their hands to occupy them.

491
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>You know that has an iPhone seventeen pro edition? Why

492
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 2>do you have an iPhone seventeen pro edition?

493
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>If they can destroy the creativity of a person, because eventually,

494
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>how long does how long does that take to get

495
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>rid of that? And we're having a really hard time

496
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 1>right now with critical thinking and common sense. It's very

497
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 1>difficult to find that. And what seems like a lot

498
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>of people they just can't think about things in a

499
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 1>way that they can create the right decision of how

500
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to go about anything.

501
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Right.

502
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 1>It seems like we're breeding just a bunch of idiots

503
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of stupid people. And then the stupid

504
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>people are the only ones that are populating right now

505
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>because the smart individuals and the people that actually have

506
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a high IQ. It's the fertility rate is gone down

507
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 1>so far when people are having a really hard time

508
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>having children, And this gets into well, what have they

509
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 1>been They've been poisoning us right through the water, through

510
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the food, through the air, all of this stuff, and

511
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 1>through our digital devices. I mean the EMF fields that

512
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>are radiating off your phone and your technology, and the

513
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi in your house, just the Wi Fi router alone,

514
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's probably doing untold damage to our autonomic nervous system,

515
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>probably doing all kinds of things that we don't even

516
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>know because it hasn't been around long enough to do

517
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the proper test on it. Okay, So what they've done

518
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>is they've made a lot of the population infertile, and

519
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 1>they've made a lot of the population infertile on purpose,

520
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 1>just like they did with the drugs. Right, They'll get

521
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 1>people addicted to drugs and then they will turn around

522
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and sell them the medication to get off of those drugs.

523
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.079
<v Speaker 1>So they're getting money in two different ways. They're getting

524
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>them addicted by selling them the drugs, they're getting money

525
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>that way, and then they're giving them the drug to

526
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>get them off of the drug that they got them

527
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 1>addicted to in the first place. So they're actually taking

528
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the fertility away from people. And then they're selling them

529
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 1>idea of treatment which is ridiculously expensive in order for

530
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>them to have kids.

531
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Go to the next step. So we should learn from

532
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 2>the Japanese because they have now reached the red line

533
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the current rate there, they're going to be out of

534
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:31.639
<v Speaker 2>existence a couple next two three hundred years the way

535
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it's going. But there's something odd going on with them too,

536
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's spreading. You now have humans who would rather

537
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 2>be married or joined to a robot with artificial intelligence,

538
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 2>and those who have gone to the step to actually

539
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:58.639
<v Speaker 2>marry them, they say they're that the perfect companion. So

540
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to me, I see this as one we have a

541
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>fertility rate problem. The men today, their semen count their

542
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>sperm count. If it was compared to someone born, let's

543
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>say in the fifties, you would say that this person

544
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>in modern day that there's a sickness with them, there's

545
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 2>something wrong with them. I mean, to have such low

546
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 2>sperm count. And then you have where you have women

547
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>who want to conceive are conceiving much later in life,

548
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 2>if at all. And I see AI coming in, and

549
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>this is where it's all tied again. Because the proliferation

550
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>as AI, as your best friend talks to you, converses

551
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>with you, encourages you. People are becoming emotionally addicted to

552
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 2>their AI companion, and then they're given drugs because then

553
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>they're exhibiting signs of schizophrenia. So now they're going to

554
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>be on a drug that costs twelve hundred dollars a

555
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>month in order to help them cope with that, in

556
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 2>which later they're probably going to be depressed. They've got

557
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 2>to drink. Just what you were saying. I mean, Steppenwolf

558
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>had a song in nineteen sixty nine called the Pusher, right,

559
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>remember that and John k has one of the lyrics

560
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.760
<v Speaker 2>in there that says, goddamn the pusher man. But yeah,

561
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it's you see, writer, when I look at this thing,

562
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like, no matter what point of view you look,

563
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>no matter which direction you look at, it's got the

564
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>same signature to its It's it's either advanced corruption or

565
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>it's disinherent to our nature that you know, we just

566
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 2>screw things up.

567
00:40:54.199 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, it seems like it's. I had

568
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>donut on not too long ago, and he was talking

569
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 1>about these cyber delics, right, that they want people hooked

570
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>up to the VR goggles and then they also want

571
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 1>them injected in uh drugs that essentially make them trip

572
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and feel good while they're in this uh this other reality,

573
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>and I was like that that kind of makes sense.

574
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean that one guy, what was his name, that

575
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Timothy Leary m h he was one of the people

576
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 1>that actually talked about that in his uh in his

577
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>books was you know, the these cyberdlics, right and once

578
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 1>you hooked up to this machine and they want you

579
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>on drugs.

580
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, I dropped a lot of LSD in my day,

581
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:55.519
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of mescing, you know, lots of mushrooms.

582
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Never had any machine. You know, I don't know what

583
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>a machine would would really do for me because my

584
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 2>imagination was already well engaged. But looking back in those experiences,

585
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I could see using in an immersive technology like uh

586
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 2>VR that sets, but that could really scramble to your

587
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>head if you're if you're not ready for it. I mean,

588
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the thing about taking LSD is that you had those

589
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 2>who freaked out and those who didn't, and those who

590
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't is that we learned. You know, there's sist inherent

591
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>to what you see on learning that spatial reality can

592
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>be on multiple planes at the same time, and when

593
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you immerse into those things get weird hallucinations, you know,

594
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>ground undulates. But my mind was able to handle that.

595
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 2>If you put a virtual reality on me and then

596
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>begin to inject to me an artificial reality on top

597
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of already what my mind is already producing, I think

598
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you could get some scrambled eggs in doing Thats just

599
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>my point of view. I'm not sure I'd want to

600
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 2>do that.

601
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would get some sort of psychosis, I.

602
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Think, exactly right. I think that the end result. And

603
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 2>we know that certain people I used I was a

604
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>counselor for people who were in bad trips and and

605
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 2>the reason why they had bad trips is that they

606
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 2>had issues, they had they had things that Unfortunately, those

607
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 2>type of experiences trip away those barriers, and most people

608
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>are not ready to face those demons in such a manner.

609
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, I think that that is the issue

610
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:54.199
<v Speaker 1>with But the psychedelics is it for people they can't

611
00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>handle it because of traumas. But then think about, okay, well,

612
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>if someone does have trauma like that and things that

613
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 1>they need to work through, then putting on a VR

614
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>headset and then making them trip onto some sort of

615
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 1>hallucinogenic is not going to make it any better. Is

616
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 1>actually going to make it worse. And then when you

617
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 1>look at the MK Ultra programs. I mean, that's sort

618
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 1>of exactly what they were doing. They were traumatizing these people,

619
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>then drugging them and then using this thing called psychic driving,

620
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>which is this would be the next step of what

621
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 1>psychic driving was on the audio looped message. And some

622
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 1>people freak out on hallucinogenics by just watching something on

623
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 1>TV that can trigger something in their mind if it's

624
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like.

625
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 2>A never had flashback, never and and and to be

626
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 2>fair on this, the big thing in Silicon Valley for

627
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<v Speaker 2>a long time was microdosing, just taking small marts, and

628
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<v Speaker 2>it was incredible what it did. It opened up channels

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<v Speaker 2>of creativity that allowed these brilliant minds to begin to

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<v Speaker 2>write code and do things that had never done. And

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<v Speaker 2>what they've also found, particularly with like Vietnam veterans, those

632
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<v Speaker 2>who suffer from post traumatic syndrome, is that small doses

633
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<v Speaker 2>of psilocitin, you know, the magic muffroom mushroom is one

634
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<v Speaker 2>that apparently is perfect in kind of eliminating that trauma.

635
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<v Speaker 2>So our ancestors had it right. There is a good

636
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<v Speaker 2>thing about certain hallucinogenics. Is this that when I think

637
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<v Speaker 2>in the case of for instance, doing LSD is that

638
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<v Speaker 2>that's a man made chemical. It's not out of Mother

639
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<v Speaker 2>Nature's medicine box. And all of them have a different

640
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<v Speaker 2>effect on the brain in different perspt But you're right,

641
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<v Speaker 2>many of the people that I saw that had bad trips,

642
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<v Speaker 2>they were already it was already messed up for them

643
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<v Speaker 2>to begin with, and they should have never ventured down

644
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<v Speaker 2>that highway.

645
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it opens things that you necessarily don't want

646
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<v Speaker 1>to think about.

647
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<v Speaker 2>One psychologists who wrote me said that it was their

648
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<v Speaker 2>hypothesis that those who experimented heavily in that period of

649
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<v Speaker 2>time is that that third eye remains once it was opened,

650
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it never closed, and it's noticeable throughout one's life. But

651
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<v Speaker 2>I happen to think there's some validity to that as well.

652
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<v Speaker 1>Open. I mean, and that makes sense because I think

653
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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people then have had some sort

654
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<v Speaker 1>of hodocinogenic experience. I mean, it's life changing.

655
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<v Speaker 2>We think about alien adoptions. I mean, you know, you

656
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<v Speaker 2>had psychologists that said, well, that was just a self

657
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>induced hallucination phobia, et cetera. I don't think it may

658
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<v Speaker 2>be real. But you know, the mind is one of

659
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<v Speaker 2>the most amazing things that it protects what reality is

660
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<v Speaker 2>for us. That's what I found out about in my

661
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 2>early years is that reality is really interpretive, just depends

662
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<v Speaker 2>on where you are. I mean, where you are right now, writer,

663
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<v Speaker 2>imagine yourself forty years from now. I mean I can

664
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<v Speaker 2>only imagine. I won't be around here to see it,

665
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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think I want to stay that long.

666
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<v Speaker 2>But I see a wise philosopher, a person who has,

667
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<v Speaker 2>you know, a remarkable ability to take the observation in

668
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<v Speaker 2>dissect it in such a manner that people could begin

669
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<v Speaker 2>to experience what you experienced, what you're doing now, because

670
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:14.800
<v Speaker 2>technically we're already dead. If you believe in the future,

671
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 2>we're just merely reliving a moment that we experienced. We

672
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>call it the now, but it could have been a

673
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<v Speaker 2>long time ago, or it could be yet in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that I have already gone through a

675
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<v Speaker 1>lot of the things that people are supposed to go

676
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 1>through into their fifties and into their sixties and into

677
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 1>their seventies and through their later years, because that's the

678
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<v Speaker 1>kind of the thing that there's a process of, Like

679
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<v Speaker 1>I said, ancient Egyptian philosophy and ideas where you're you know,

680
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you're born, and then you go through adolescents, and then

681
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 1>you get into this and then you then you get

682
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<v Speaker 1>wisdom whenever you're in your thirties, and then whenever you're

683
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<v Speaker 1>in your later years, and you go through the veil

684
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<v Speaker 1>and the illusion is then dropped. Like I feel like

685
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<v Speaker 1>I just expedited the entire process and crammed it into

686
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<v Speaker 1>a very short amount of time. And then I'm kind

687
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<v Speaker 1>of and I think that that is that should be

688
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<v Speaker 1>the way that people that are born now, like we

689
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.559
<v Speaker 1>should all get that that because we have to evolve,

690
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.119
<v Speaker 1>we have to change, and we have to cram more

691
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>life experience into a shorter amount of time in order

692
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<v Speaker 1>to get past where our fathers were and by the

693
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<v Speaker 1>end of their life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I think the generation being born right

695
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<v Speaker 2>now will have something that you and I will never

696
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<v Speaker 2>we never would have imagined. I believe that they will

697
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<v Speaker 2>have have the opportunity for eternal life, but in a

698
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<v Speaker 2>different perception and constructing what we see eternal life. I

699
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<v Speaker 2>think the I think and it's very close that they

700
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<v Speaker 2>will have the opportunity where they will not have to

701
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<v Speaker 2>experience death. I think we're within one generation of that.

702
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<v Speaker 2>If it's not already here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that technology is already going to be

704
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<v Speaker 1>there now, whether you can afford it is going to

705
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 1>be a different story. I don't believe it's going to

706
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 1>be free, but I think that the technology will exist

707
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<v Speaker 1>for even my generation to extend out past even one

708
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<v Speaker 1>hundred years and still be able to operate and do

709
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<v Speaker 1>things and go to the store and take care of themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally believe now the probably the generation that's happening

711
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<v Speaker 1>right now will probably end up getting more vanced version

712
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<v Speaker 1>of that. But I do believe by the time I am,

713
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<v Speaker 1>you know, in my seventies or in my eighties, that

714
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<v Speaker 1>the technology will exist for me to whether I can

715
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<v Speaker 1>get it or not is another thing, but it will

716
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<v Speaker 1>exist in order for me to live well beyond what

717
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.679
<v Speaker 1>anybody has ever lived, if we don't and if we

718
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<v Speaker 1>don't completely destroy it.

719
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<v Speaker 2>But what's immortality? You know? How do you how do

720
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<v Speaker 2>you define? We define immortality by our memories, So it

721
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<v Speaker 2>implies that, you know, the experience, if we're going to

722
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>live eternally, is the fact that we're going to be

723
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<v Speaker 2>able to experience new memories. And I don't know what

724
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it waits. On the other side, I have all the

725
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 2>ghost hunting equipment sitting over there. I've done my I've

726
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 2>filmed whatever that was showing up on the camera. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm convinced that there is another existence. I've really been

728
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<v Speaker 2>getting into Richard Feynman in his lectures, and he has

729
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 2>really a good one on death, that we're all atoms

730
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<v Speaker 2>and we're just merely experiencing a spatial reality, a dimension,

731
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and as our atoms move through these dimensions, we experience

732
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.559
<v Speaker 2>different forms of corporeal consciousness. I like that idea because

733
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<v Speaker 2>that gives me the hope that my memories stay intact.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the idea of living within the construct

735
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<v Speaker 2>of a machine. But I may already be a machine.

736
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<v Speaker 2>These are just bio machines here, and I seem to

737
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 2>have an operating system that knows how to work it now.

738
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<v Speaker 2>Granted it takes us two or three years when we're

739
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<v Speaker 2>born to figure it out, but once we do, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that AI personally for me, is the undoing.

741
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:03.480
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I have a saying here that AI is

742
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:07.320
<v Speaker 2>the death of humanity because I don't believe what we're

743
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<v Speaker 2>eventually compatible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you believe that there was an ancient AI system.

745
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Well at all because they're all dead. I mean, and

746
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 2>that kind of tells me something, you know. It's like, ok, right,

747
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 2>let's say if the Samarians had it, you know, let's

748
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>say that they had some sort of technology. Didn't work

749
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<v Speaker 2>out well for them, all right, so let's go backwards.

750
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 2>How about the Hindus. Damn sure didn't it. I mean,

751
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>they they got stories of nuclear bombs going off. Okay.

752
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<v Speaker 2>I mean everywhere I see this technology, I see death

753
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 2>and destruction. If they just left us alone, we're probably

754
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 2>still I don't know, in the garden. Maybe I don't know.

755
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:59.639
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think we would be here. And then

756
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<v Speaker 2>that gets that's in the whole philosophical thing. That gets

757
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<v Speaker 2>for me. If you believe the Bible and the story

758
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Fallen Angels, then that was an alien invasion.

759
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 2>They contaminated the bloodline and ever since then things have

760
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.599
<v Speaker 2>been screwed up. I mean, think about it. The first

761
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:21.440
<v Speaker 2>thing that came out of that technology was giants, you know,

762
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and ended up eating us. If you believe the story

763
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:27.559
<v Speaker 2>and you go through this thing, and then when God

764
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 2>comes into the scene, there's always death and destruction. I mean,

765
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.599
<v Speaker 2>that's technology.

766
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 1>So anyone, I mean, unless you think God is like

767
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Thanos or whatever, and just freaking.

768
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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think that, you know, I've come to

769
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.719
<v Speaker 2>the conclusion, Yeah, there are many different gods because we

770
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 2>create them. But I think eventually it's a force. It's

771
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<v Speaker 2>literally a force. We give it personality, we give it identity.

772
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it really cares, but it's a force,

773
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's a force that it's remarkable because what comes

774
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:23.920
<v Speaker 2>from that is creation. Us writer, you create. Every film

775
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>that you make is a creation, no different than seeing

776
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:31.880
<v Speaker 2>a star being born, seeing it being created. That's what

777
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<v Speaker 2>the most amazing thing is. As I've gone through this life,

778
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<v Speaker 2>I'm seventy now and I look back. I haven't aged

779
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<v Speaker 2>today in one aspect, but wow, have I gained some

780
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 2>really interesting perspectives that I would have never thought about.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is great hope, and that's if there's one

782
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<v Speaker 2>positive side to this whole thing. I think that that's

783
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<v Speaker 2>what AI is going to try to emulate, is the

784
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 2>ability that humans have to hope, because I think it's

785
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<v Speaker 2>uniquely human. I don't think it can be alien. I

786
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think it can be a machine. It's uniquely human

787
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 2>to hope. And so that's where I kind of sit.

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<v Speaker 1>Uniquely human, the hope, and uniquely human probably to love

789
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 1>and to have all kinds of different emotions. Because my

790
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<v Speaker 1>original thought on a lot of this is that this

791
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<v Speaker 1>is the only reality where we can experience both ends

792
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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum. We can experience very extreme sadness and depression,

793
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<v Speaker 1>but we can also experience very extreme happiness and excitement, right,

794
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<v Speaker 1>And it might be that this place is the only

795
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:54.719
<v Speaker 1>place that we can actually experience those things and get

796
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>all of those different range of emotions, which makes this

797
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.079
<v Speaker 1>reality very special.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems the God of this reality kind of digs it.

799
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, God that I once worship said

800
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<v Speaker 2>he was an angry, vengeful God. The one thing I

801
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 2>never found out about that God I never read in

802
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the Bible was that God laughed. Not one scripture in

803
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<v Speaker 2>the whole Bible, all sixty six books, it never says

804
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<v Speaker 2>that God laughed.

805
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Gotta have a sense of humor, God, come on, all you.

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00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Got to in sense of humor signed him a great intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm just saying, you know, but this this

808
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>cat never never laughs. Yeah, Okay, someone would say, well,

809
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<v Speaker 2>it says the joy of the Lord, but no, wait

810
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<v Speaker 2>a minute, now, the Lord is not God, so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Two different things. Well, Wayne, thanks so much for coming on.

812
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Really here is always well you got to come over

813
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.159
<v Speaker 2>on my channel, I mean got to get you over here.

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00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Since this the new year, A lot to talk about.

815
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I would love to, especially whenever I get this

816
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<v Speaker 1>documentary don and it gets released online. Would love to

817
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:09.559
<v Speaker 1>come on.

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<v Speaker 2>And talk an invite buddy love to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I really appreciate it. Can you let people

820
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<v Speaker 1>know where to find you online?

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<v Speaker 2>Right over on YouTube r Wayne Steiger, and I appreciate

822
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:26.679
<v Speaker 2>all of you, you know, appreciate writer hit it by

823
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 2>giving him a light bucking. You still have the coffee

824
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<v Speaker 2>Buy the Cup of Coffee program?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I do.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I'm talking about Yeah. See how I

827
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 2>look at it. Coffee is like the real one free

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<v Speaker 2>drug of the world.

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00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 1>It definitely is a drug.

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<v Speaker 2>My writer some drugs buy him a cup of coffee.

831
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<v Speaker 1>Guy, and people can roast me for the energy drinks

832
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<v Speaker 1>and everything, but it's my only vibes. Guys, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a break. I can't live without it, all right, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Yeah, definitely a drug. But yeah, Wayne, thanks

835
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<v Speaker 1>so much. Appreciate you coming on the link to subscribe

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