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<v Speaker 1>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you very much, Madison. Hope you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good weekend as well. My name's Dan Ray, the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the program called Nightside with Dan Ray, the aptly

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<v Speaker 1>named program. Just got back from out of the country

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of days. I'll talk about that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later, but I was up dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>very serious issue, which I will talk with you about.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank Gary Tangway who sat in with

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<v Speaker 1>us last night actually Wednesday night and Thursday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate Gary doing that. And without any further ado, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to a great guest talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>fabulous event upcoming next week here in Boston. I'm delighted

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<v Speaker 1>to be joined by none o than Jerry Greenfield. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>is the co founder of Ben and Jerry's ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>that needs no introduction at all. Jerry. Good evening, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am so excited about the annual Jimmy Fun scuper

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl coming up next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you guys, and because you're now an international phenomenon,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're a Vermont company, a New England company. How

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<v Speaker 1>many years have you been involved? You and Ben been

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<v Speaker 1>involved with the Jimmy fun Scooper Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I can't even remember. We weren't one

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<v Speaker 3>of the original companies. We probably came in the third

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<v Speaker 3>or fourth year. But it's something we look forward to

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<v Speaker 3>every year. I don't know if people know about this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the biggest ice cream event in the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fundraiser for the Jimmy Fund and Dana Farber

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<v Speaker 3>Cancer Institute, and it happens in Boston every summer. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the official beginning of the summer season. It's three days

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday June third, Wednesday June fourth, and Thursday June fifth

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<v Speaker 3>at Boston City Hall Plaza. There's not just Ben and Jerry's.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like ten other ice cream companies h and you

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<v Speaker 3>pay one fee twenty bucks for adults, fifteen bucks for kids.

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<v Speaker 3>All the money goes to the Jimmy Fund. All the

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream companies donate their ice cream and you can

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<v Speaker 3>eat as much as you want.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an unbelievable event. It began in nineteen eighty three

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<v Speaker 1>and so far the Scuper Bowl, of which you have

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<v Speaker 1>been such an integral part, has raised for the Dana

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<v Speaker 1>Farber Cancer Institute seven and a half million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>support cancer care and research. And it is a fabulous event,

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<v Speaker 1>no question about it. I happen to think that Ben

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry's is the best ice cream is. Actually, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a TV reporter, you will not remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>We went up to do a story with you in

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Jerry. I'm thinking it's like nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>or something maybe, and we actually flew in by helicopter

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<v Speaker 1>onto the company. We made it kind of an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>arrival and the helicopter land and safe and got us

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<v Speaker 1>back home safely. But yeah, Ben and Jerry's will be there,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be a whole just many of the other ice

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<v Speaker 1>creams manufacturers will be there. And I don't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you how much ice cream you have contributed

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, but you focus, well, can I.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk a little about all the other ice cream companies,

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<v Speaker 3>because as you say, it's not just Ben and Jerry's,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to plug all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give them all a plug.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Wigghams is going to be there, EDI's Friendlies

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<v Speaker 3>hogandas Holy cow Hood, Lactade, McConnell's, Tillamook is there for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time, and all the companies bring at least

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<v Speaker 3>fall four flavors, so you are guaranteed to find something

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to knock your socks off. And as I say,

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<v Speaker 3>you can eat as much as you want. And most

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<v Speaker 3>people say there are no calories when you eat ice

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<v Speaker 3>cream at the Jimmy Fun scuper Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to be a believer in that, to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, I have ice cream down. Is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite health foods because it's refreshing, it's dairy based,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those food pyramids that I saw growing

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<v Speaker 1>up as a kid always said dairy was right at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. And I know they weren't lying to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just makes all the sense in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And again next Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you can buy tickets

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<v Speaker 1>in advance. I guess you can buy them there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also one a Scoopid Night within a twenty one plus

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<v Speaker 1>happy hour event on June fifth. I'm not even going

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<v Speaker 1>to what's going to be going on there, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of fun as well. This

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<v Speaker 1>is this is just just a great event for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>for all that you've done for the for the Jimmy Fund.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, you know, and so it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>raising money, it's not just eating ice cream. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>real sense of community and people pulling together. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pretty much all of us have been touched

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<v Speaker 3>in one way or another by family friends we know

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<v Speaker 3>who've had cancer, and it's nice to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>come together and celebrate, eat ice cream and also raise

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<v Speaker 3>some money for a great cost.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, again, you guys have been great over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that some of your fans want me to

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<v Speaker 1>ask this question. I don't want to put you in

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<v Speaker 1>the spot, but will you be there at the Scooper

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl on any of the days? I'm sure you got

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<v Speaker 1>a business to run your copy there all three days.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be there Monday, the day before to

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<v Speaker 3>try to get things set up, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>see if I can stick around, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm going to make sure everything is looking good

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<v Speaker 3>for when we start on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Also, I looked at the long range weather forecast

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<v Speaker 1>and the weather's the forecast is there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>rain tomorrow because it's a Saturday here in New England.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we do with it rain.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely early in the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to be moving into some ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream weather and the lines Ben and Jerry's are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great. The ice cream is going to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thanks. We did this a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago. I think it's wonderful when a company like

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<v Speaker 1>yours is so much part of the community and participates

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<v Speaker 1>and helps a lot of people along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>That's thank you for your kind where you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we're happy to do it with all these

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<v Speaker 3>other ice cream companies who all do a great job,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's nice I can promote them as well as

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<v Speaker 3>Ben and Jerry's because they really deserve it well.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. That's great a great competitive spirit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always good to acknowledge the other guy. But I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be lined up for the Ben

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry. So anyway, thank you so much. Jerry. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate as always your cooperation and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>when we're plugging an event like this, we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>one of the principles, and you've always been very accessible

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<v Speaker 1>and available. I just want to say thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 3>It is my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Right on beginning Tuesday, the scuper Bowl, Jerry Greenfield and Jerry's.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get back. Not exactly sure we were going

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<v Speaker 1>into lineup. I think we're going to go to our

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<v Speaker 1>first guest. We had a little bit of a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the phones. It's on us, not on them. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be talking with Jack Zach Dowell Doell from US World

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<v Speaker 1>and News Report about the safest cars. This is the teenagers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a time of year which can be very

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<v Speaker 1>scary for parents because the young people want to drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and in many cases they're going to be getting their

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<v Speaker 1>heading off to college. They want to make sure it's safe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get a lot of great information for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you are a teenager or you are a parent

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<v Speaker 1>or a grandparent of a teenager, stay with us. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be providing you with all the information and

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<v Speaker 1>the safest cars this year's edition of US News and

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<v Speaker 1>World Report. My name is Dan Ray. Rob Brooks is

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<v Speaker 1>juggling things back in the control room as always. He's

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<v Speaker 1>at the headquarters, the iHeart headquarters in Medford, Massachusetts. Reminds

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<v Speaker 1>you that if you haven't already procured the new and

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, you'll want it this weekend, make a point,

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<v Speaker 1>make a point of getting the new and improved iHeart app,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in touch with all of us here in New England.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that, take a quick break. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be back in just a couple of minutes with Zach Dowell.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that I'm pronouncing that name correctly from the

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<v Speaker 1>US News and World Report.

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. By the way, I didn't ever get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance in our scramble there at the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock hour. Before we get to our next guest,

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<v Speaker 1>the market basket feud family feud market Basket? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>a repeat of twenty fourteen? We will find out, But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that at nine o'clock and then tonight

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<v Speaker 1>at ten o'clock we'll be talking with the futurist Kevin Surrily.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke with Kevin a couple of weeks ago talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the future of medicine. There's some amazing things going

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<v Speaker 1>on in medicine which we're going to talk about, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>things that maybe not all, not all of you have

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<v Speaker 1>heard about these things, and some of these things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be predictive, meaning you'll be able to take

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<v Speaker 1>some tests which will be able to tell you going

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<v Speaker 1>forward whether you may be vulnerable to this disease or

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<v Speaker 1>that disease, which raises some interesting moral questions as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you even want to know. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that during the ten o'clock hour and probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit in the eleven o'clock hour tonight. But I

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<v Speaker 1>am delighted to welcome Zach Dole. Zach, I mispronounced your

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<v Speaker 1>name because it was spelled d e L. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's spelled like I guess it's pronounced like Bob Dole

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<v Speaker 1>or Elizabeth Dole.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, no relationship, Yes, yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having welcome. Sorry about our confusion we had

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<v Speaker 1>some trouble with our phone lines. It was not on

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<v Speaker 1>your end whatsoever. So US News and World Report does

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<v Speaker 1>so many surveys, and the one that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>tonight is very timely, and that is the Safest Automobiles

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five Best Cars for Teens. What what? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What actually standards did you use to decide not you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't going like the fastest cars, the car that could

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<v Speaker 1>kick it up to ninety five and twenty seconds already day.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume right, safety must be a young factor.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, So we created these Best Cars for Teams

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<v Speaker 4>awards to help parents and teams make an informed first

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<v Speaker 4>car purchase, and we focused on safety, affordability, and reliability.

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<v Speaker 4>So to even be considered for an award, these vehicles

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<v Speaker 4>have to rate highly for crash test safety. They have

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<v Speaker 4>to have advanced safety features like forward collision warning, automatic

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<v Speaker 4>emergency braking, things like that. They have to have a

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<v Speaker 4>good reliability rating, which we get from our partner Jdpower,

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<v Speaker 4>and they also have to be affordably christ So all

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<v Speaker 1>And these are new cars. We're not talking about used cars.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about new cars here, So let's let's kind

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<v Speaker 1>have both SUVs and more traditional models. You have small SUVs,

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<v Speaker 1>small cars, mid size SUVs, and mid size cars. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just start off with the twenty twenty five best New

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<v Speaker 1>Cars for teens. So in the category of the least

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<v Speaker 1>expensive but one of the safest cars is a Kia Soul.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not familiar with that car. Tell us what makes

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So in the basically going from cheapest to the

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<v Speaker 4>And like you said, the Soul is a great starting

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<v Speaker 4>option for kids starting out. And in the new car category,

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<v Speaker 4>we have the Toyota Corolla Hybrid, day A Lantra, the

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<v Speaker 4>Honda Civic Hybrid, and Toyda Camera. So again a great

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<v Speaker 1>that is that whenever I get a new car, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I've driven for many years, it's a little overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with a lot of the electronics that are now

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<v Speaker 1>almost standard on some of these cars. Are these cars

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<v Speaker 1>that you've identified which are safe and reliable in all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, Are they also, I guess, consumer friendly for

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<v Speaker 1>kids who are getting in a car. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have They're gonna have to pay attention on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>computer literate. We're talking kids now eighteen to twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>lottery of their parents are going to be very nice

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Are any of these cars sort of knew

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<v Speaker 1>what cars might have been when you and I were younger,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe when I was younger and there was very

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<v Speaker 1>is this a factor at all in your decisions?

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<v Speaker 4>So yes and no. All these cars are going to

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<v Speaker 4>have features that that we think we'll keep driver's attention

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<v Speaker 4>up instead of looking down at their phone. So you

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<v Speaker 4>have Apple car Play and Android Auto, which are a

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<v Speaker 4>of the car. So you know, it's good to stay connected.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good to have your gts right where you can

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<v Speaker 4>or what have you. So yes, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of new technology in any new vehicle nowadays.

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<v Speaker 4>But we feel very confident that these are are more

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<v Speaker 4>approachable than most. But as a personal note, I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>just see what feels right to you. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>they can both be great, safe, reliable vehicles, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>Now. One are the things I think. What are the

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<v Speaker 1>tips I would give to anyone who's getting in the

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<v Speaker 1>car behind the car for the first time. Are your sidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon you know where you're more comfortable looking, what

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<v Speaker 1>is precluding your your line of vision? I think sitelines

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<v Speaker 1>are just really important when you when you fimiliar your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes yourself with a car, tell me I'm right, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me I'm wrong. What do you say?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, one hundred percent. And you know there are

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<v Speaker 4>features nowadays like blind spot monitoring that can sort of

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<v Speaker 4>the equation and you can just you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. But absolutely it's good to get behind the wheel,

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<v Speaker 4>see what you can see, see what you can't, and

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<v Speaker 4>identify those blind spots because if you, you know, buy

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<v Speaker 4>a car today, drive it for ten years, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you also have four cars A Best

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five Best Used Cars for teams, a small suv,

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<v Speaker 1>a mid sized suv, a small car and mid sized car,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of them. They're twenty twenty two cars

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<v Speaker 1>except for one, which is a twenty twenty one. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about let's say the small suv, the small suv

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<v Speaker 1>or the best suv is the as you have listed

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<v Speaker 1>is the Hyundai to Sun Hybrid, that yeah, twenty five version,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to run anyway between thirty and thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>If you drop back three years and get used Hondai

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson Hybrid, drop back to a twenty twenty two used

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<v Speaker 1>what will that cost you?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really going to depend on mileage and where you

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<v Speaker 4>are in the in the country park, but you can

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<v Speaker 4>usually knock you can probably knock ten thousand dollars at

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<v Speaker 4>least off off the stick or that. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty good savings of over just three years of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the lifespan of the new vehicle. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>in our use category, we're highlighting the twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 4>Hondai Tucson Hybrid, the twenty twenty two Hondai a launch

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<v Speaker 4>A Hybrid, the twenty twenty two Hondai Santa Fe Hybrid,

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<v Speaker 2>So Honday's really.

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<v Speaker 4>Hondai's really had a good showing in that category, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that really stands to show that they have

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's funny. I'm looking at these cars, both the

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<v Speaker 1>best new cars and the best used cars. So I

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<v Speaker 1>see Hyundai, I see Toyota, Subaru, a Honda, and a Kia.

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<v Speaker 1>Kia is a Korean car, correct, Yes, Toyota is. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a car expert. Toyota is that Japanese?

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<v Speaker 1>Hyundai is Korean?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep. You're beatty thousands so far right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna keep rolling there. Subaru Subaru is that Japanese?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I've heard all of these that I'm really guessing here.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is, you don't have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>American car You don't have any American cars here, which

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<v Speaker 1>says a lot about where we are in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking at the best and the safest, which I respect.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not asking you why American cars aren't included,

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<v Speaker 1>but are American cars. We have a ways to go

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with some of these foreign automobile manufacturers, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't think so. You know, we had eight spots to

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<v Speaker 4>fill in this, and we took the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you have, you know, hundreds of vehicles really

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<v Speaker 4>on sale and only eight spots to highlight the best

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<v Speaker 4>of them, it's kind of going to be a look

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<v Speaker 4>at the draw sometimes. These are all fantastic vehicles.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Chevy Tracks is another great small suv. It didn't quite

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<v Speaker 4>make the top here, but you know, if you're going

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<v Speaker 4>out you want to buy an affordable, safe, reliable, small

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<v Speaker 4>TV Chevy Tracks. There you go. Okay, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>American brands have shifted away from some of the smaller cars,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, by nature they're just not participating in

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's great. Look, this was a good interview because

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot from it, and if I learned

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<v Speaker 1>something from it, my audience will as well. Jack Dole

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<v Speaker 1>US News and World Report. This was released just this

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<v Speaker 1>week of mistake in May twenty eighth, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>hot off the presses and it's available. What's the website

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<v Speaker 1>where can people go?

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<v Speaker 4>It's cars dot usnews dot com. You can read about

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<v Speaker 4>all these cars and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds great, Zach. I appreciate your time tonight, your great interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it so much. We'll talk again.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome when we get back on to talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Dougherty, the CEO of College Hype, celebrating Dorchester Day

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday. For those of you in Dorchester listen up,

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<v Speaker 1>or those of you who might be going to Dorchester

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<v Speaker 1>on this Sunday you want to listen up. We got

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<v Speaker 1>some really interesting news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Way Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Delighted to welcome a friend of many years, the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of College Hype, which provides all sorts of assistance to

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<v Speaker 1>the Shadow Fund and to everyone here on Nightside, Jack Dougherty. Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome going to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, sir, Dan?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing excellent and as always, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 5>having me on the show. Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you you're a great company. You

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<v Speaker 1>produce wonderful products. Dorchester Day is this Sunday, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>been participating as a Dorchester based company in Dorchester Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess now for what thirty five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thirty five years. You got it, Dan, What were

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty five years ago? It was a little different college

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<v Speaker 5>And then on the back it said Dotchester Day two am.

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<v Speaker 5>And the coffee was spilling. Might have had a little

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<v Speaker 5>Bailey's and the coffee was spilling everywhere, and they were

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five years ago, off first Douchesterday T shirt, and

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<v Speaker 5>since then we've been we've been, we've been selling shirts

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<v Speaker 5>when it came time to pay them. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 5>know much about business. I was a history major coming

421
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<v Speaker 5>out of school. So we'd get them a free T

422
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<v Speaker 5>shirt and a beverage and on we would go. And

423
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<v Speaker 5>then another year we would do it all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this year's going to be a little bit different,

425
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<v Speaker 1>so you won't have the college high tent out on

426
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<v Speaker 1>Dorchester Avenue or anything like that. But tomorrow, no tomorrow,

427
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<v Speaker 1>if people decide to stop by your business, which is

428
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<v Speaker 1>right on Gallivan Boulevard, I think everybody in Dorchester, right

429
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<v Speaker 1>near Adam's Corner, if they you got a deal. So,

430
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<v Speaker 1>if anybody still has one of the Dorchester Day shirts

431
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<v Speaker 1>from the nineteen nineties.

432
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<v Speaker 2>This goes back to nineties.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, George Bush and Bill Clinton president, and they either

434
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<v Speaker 1>wear that shirt or bring that shirt in. You got

435
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<v Speaker 1>a deal for them. What's the deal?

436
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So the original there was thirty five percent off.

437
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<v Speaker 5>But if they are nice enough to so they get

438
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<v Speaker 5>thirty five percent off of anything in the store, because

439
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<v Speaker 5>we've been doing this for thirty five years. But if

440
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<v Speaker 5>they come in in they wear wearing a shirt that

441
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<v Speaker 5>they purchased and they still still have it, we'll give

442
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<v Speaker 5>them thirty five percent off, but we'll also take an

443
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<v Speaker 5>additional fifteen percent off if they mentioned the godfather of

444
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<v Speaker 5>talk radio, Dana, so they could get fifty percent off.

445
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<v Speaker 5>So you could spend a couple hundred bucks with ha.

446
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<v Speaker 5>Somebody spend four hundred dollars today in the store. So

447
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<v Speaker 5>if you spend four hundred, you're really paying a two

448
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<v Speaker 5>hundred because you're getting fifty percent off. So again, you

449
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<v Speaker 5>have to have a shirt.

450
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<v Speaker 1>They have to wear too.

451
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<v Speaker 4>Godfather.

452
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they have got to wear it.

453
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<v Speaker 5>Okay, they have to wear Yeah, they have to wear it.

454
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<v Speaker 6>If they want to bring it in, that's.

455
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<v Speaker 5>Fine too, but it has to be one. From nineteen

456
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<v Speaker 5>ninety to nineteen ninety nine, and back then we did

457
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<v Speaker 5>some funny t shirts. One was Bears Bears, Bouts.

458
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<v Speaker 2>And the Boys.

459
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<v Speaker 5>The other was a perception reality shirt. The perception was

460
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<v Speaker 5>all these big strong men on the on the front

461
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<v Speaker 5>and on the back. The reality was they they were

462
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<v Speaker 5>a little bit, a little bit out of shape and

463
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<v Speaker 5>they were having a long, long day on Dutchester today

464
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<v Speaker 5>back in the day. So if they wear one of

465
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<v Speaker 5>those shirts, we'll we'll take again fifty percent off. And

466
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<v Speaker 5>if but they have to man the godfather of talk radio,

467
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<v Speaker 5>Dan Rey and and it will be a great, great,

468
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<v Speaker 5>great great discount for them.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a moniker. I might adopt that. I've always

470
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<v Speaker 1>thought of myself as No.

471
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<v Speaker 2>We talked about that. I thought, yeah, we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jack, your company has been a huge success as

473
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<v Speaker 1>a Boston based company. You you now have a significant

474
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<v Speaker 1>number of people who you employ. I'm not going to

475
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<v Speaker 1>have to go into the UH to the to the

476
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<v Speaker 1>specifics of the company, but you're growing. You you provide

477
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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of services, just encapsulated real quickly so people

478
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<v Speaker 1>UH refresh their recollection. You'll you have a I know

479
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<v Speaker 1>a place in Weymouth, a printing area in Weymouth. Do

480
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<v Speaker 1>you also have a store down there at this point

481
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<v Speaker 1>or no.

482
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<v Speaker 5>No, So what we have in in Weymouth is we

483
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<v Speaker 5>have our screen print facility. We have four two automatic

484
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<v Speaker 5>machines and a couple of manual machines, and then we

485
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<v Speaker 5>also have six embroidery machines which we were able to print.

486
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<v Speaker 5>We're able to sew out eighteen shirts at the time.

487
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<v Speaker 5>So we do a lot of work with corporations, we

488
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<v Speaker 5>do work with charities, and we do a lot of

489
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<v Speaker 5>work with sports teams as well.

490
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<v Speaker 1>And of course for you, the mothership is right there

491
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<v Speaker 1>on Gallovan Boulevard.

492
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, five Fony Galvin Boulevard and you can get

493
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<v Speaker 5>there a number of ways online too, with Dorchester Apparel

494
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<v Speaker 5>dot com or College Hype dot com.

495
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<v Speaker 1>And it goes. I always pushed my listeners to go

496
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<v Speaker 1>to Nightside gear dot com because Nightside sweatshirts and the

497
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<v Speaker 1>Nightside hats and hooded sweatshirts and T shirts and coffee mugs.

498
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<v Speaker 1>You've been a great partner for us over the years,

499
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<v Speaker 1>and the proceeds of any Nightside material sales goes to

500
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<v Speaker 1>help out the Shadow Fund, which is I know a

501
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>charity that you guys have have helped out a lot,

502
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and the charity that my listeners have contributed to and

503
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 1>helped out, and it says that's a great, great success

504
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>story for a guy to come out of Westfield State.

505
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>When you were at Westfield State, that's when your business

506
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>really started, right.

507
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Yeah, we had some you know, like I said,

508
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 5>we were doing some work with the football team and

509
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 5>we did some shirts towards the end of our senior

510
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 5>year and one of the shirts was the potties over

511
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 5>Now what do we do? And that was a big seller.

512
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 5>And that's what, you know, kind of fueled us getting

513
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 5>into selling the Dotchester Day shirts and also then we

514
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, threw it into sealthy apparel dot com selling

515
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.480
<v Speaker 5>shirts and sealthy. But but I will say Dan this weekend,

516
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 5>we have a lot of nice shirts for people for

517
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 5>all over Boston, but the parishes of Dorchester is a

518
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 5>big success. The all roads lead to Dorchester t shirts,

519
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 5>the mugs, the Triple Decker T shirts and one of

520
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 5>our biggest shirts right now that's selling as well as

521
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 5>Dorchester Day shirts is our gas tank shirts where we

522
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 5>were able to donate five thousand dollars to the Boys

523
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 5>and Girls Clubs of Dorchester for their new Dorchester Field House.

524
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 5>So every shirt that's sold there we raise a few

525
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 5>pennies for the the organization to help out.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've been very supportive. I know of Martin Richards

527
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>family and Bill Richards. Richard you work very closely with

528
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and you're very charitably inclined. Jack. And by the way,

529
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you played football at Westfield State, so it wasn't you

530
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>were you. You not only were a participant, but also

531
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<v Speaker 1>you were printing some t shirts for the football teams.

532
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<v Speaker 5>And the reason I printed shirts, I think I told

533
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 5>just before. The reason is I was always the third stringer.

534
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 5>When I made it the second string, it was like

535
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 5>hitting the number. I think I started one game my

536
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 5>senior year. So for all your listeners, if you try

537
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 5>to google me, you probably won't find anything. I did

538
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 5>have ten tackles on special teams, but other than that,

539
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 5>we don't we don't talk about us.

540
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Anyone who has ten tackles and special teams is considered

541
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<v Speaker 1>sort of a special sort of player.

542
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<v Speaker 6>That's sure that over four years, Dan, that's what.

543
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>No, No, still, that's that's sort of like the Kamakazi squad,

544
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, what I mean you were, Yeah, that was

545
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you can survive anything.

546
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<v Speaker 5>I know. I do want to give a quick shout out.

547
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<v Speaker 5>Our friend Joe Fuley turned fifty today. People thought he

548
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 5>was I think you thought he was party you said,

549
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 5>but yeah, he turned fifty. So we had a big

550
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 5>party from at Weymouth facility.

551
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You say how to Joe, and say ha to Kathleen

552
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Hickey and all everyone else over there who treats me

553
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 1>so well.

554
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 5>So will Kathleen. Kathleen and Margaret. Kathleen's only fIF forty eight,

555
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.240
<v Speaker 5>and Margaret, I think is forty nine so and Jody's

556
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 5>Jody's going to be fifty soon. So we get a

557
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 5>lot of people under fifty. Joe's one of the older.

558
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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have stuck with you times as well. Jack,

559
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of friends. Because everybody will say

560
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 1>to me when I when I mentioned in the show

561
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 1>that they'll say, do you really know Jack Dougherty. I'll say, yeah,

562
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I know Jack Dougherty, trust me.

563
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<v Speaker 5>Base Thanks man, Yeah, Dan, thank you so much. Great chat,

564
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.960
<v Speaker 5>and we'll talk to him all right, Thanks very much.

565
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<v Speaker 1>We get back. We're going to talk about a very

566
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>serious situation that you need to avoid. This weekend and

567
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>actually later on during the month of June. That is

568
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the reconstruction of the Newton Wellesley Bridge at the intersection

569
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<v Speaker 1>of one twenty eight and the Massachusetts Turnpike. We're going

570
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<v Speaker 1>to be talking with Jonathan Golliver of the Massachusets Department

571
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<v Speaker 1>of Transportation about why why everyone should stay at least

572
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty miles away from that intersection if you're smart and

573
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>can avoid it. We'll be all with Jonathan Galliver right

574
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<v Speaker 1>after this.

575
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<v Speaker 2>It's nice eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

576
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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have a traffic alert. Hearken close to your radio,

577
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 1>keep your eyes on the road, but you want to

578
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<v Speaker 1>listen to with Jonathan Golliver, my guest. He is the

579
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<v Speaker 1>Massachusete Department of Transportation Highway Administrator, and in about thirteen

580
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<v Speaker 1>minutes the Turnpike is going to be impacted, as will

581
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<v Speaker 1>one twenty eight. Jonathan, I'm sure this is an evening

582
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 1>that you've looked forward to for some time. Welcome back

583
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<v Speaker 1>to night's side.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey Dan, thanks for having me on. And yeah, we

585
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 6>are counting down the minute. Just right about nine o'clock,

586
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 6>things are going to get pretty tight out there on

587
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 6>the turnpike. Things are going to down in one lane

588
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 6>each direction.

589
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I watched one of the reports that I with

590
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<v Speaker 1>my old colleague Ted Weyman, and he had some people

591
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.759
<v Speaker 1>who said they had not heard about this. That has

592
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to be your greatest fear. I mean, there's been plenty

593
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 1>of publicity about it. Where are these people been that

594
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard about what's going to happen? And for those

595
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>who haven't, let's go one as you hit it for me?

596
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 1>What happens in about twelve minutes from right now? And

597
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>how long would it last?

598
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<v Speaker 6>All right, Well, hopefully we're only talking to the stragglers

599
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 6>at this point, and everybody has heard about it. We've

600
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 6>got a pretty big media blitz at this point.

601
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<v Speaker 2>But the.

602
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is so, this is part of a bigger project.

603
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<v Speaker 6>There's a four hundred million dollar project. This is a

604
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<v Speaker 6>train tunnel that passes underneath the turnpike for the It's

605
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 6>the train that runs from the Western Line into Boston

606
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 6>and the South station, and that particular train tunnel needs

607
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 6>to be replaced. It's at the end of its life.

608
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<v Speaker 6>So we are going to be just right at nine pm.

609
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<v Speaker 6>We're going to be deploying zipper lanes that have been

610
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<v Speaker 6>pre staged out there, going to constrain the pike down

611
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 6>one lane in each direction. That's going to be in

612
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<v Speaker 6>place throughout the weekend and right up until five am

613
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<v Speaker 6>Monday morning so that we can demolish the first half

614
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 6>of that train bridge train tunnel. We're going to come

615
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<v Speaker 6>in and bring new prefabricated units into place and restore

616
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<v Speaker 6>the road all back to its conditioned by five am

617
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<v Speaker 6>on Monday.

618
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<v Speaker 2>That's half of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Then we're going to be coming back in three weeks

620
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<v Speaker 6>on June twentieth and doing it again for the other half,

621
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<v Speaker 6>for the other side. So this week this weekend is

622
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<v Speaker 6>all about getting the westbound side of the turnpike on

623
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<v Speaker 6>that train tunnel done next time when it's going to

624
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<v Speaker 6>be getting the east outside done.

625
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<v Speaker 1>How much is the bad weather, particularly the bad weather

626
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<v Speaker 1>in the next twelve hours going to impact this effort,

627
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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be.

628
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<v Speaker 6>In good shape the big the next the next few

629
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<v Speaker 6>hours are going to be doing the demolition and actually,

630
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 6>if anything, the water helps us a little bit. So

631
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<v Speaker 6>the if it was if it was winds, especially tomorrow,

632
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<v Speaker 6>we'd be very concerned, but we're not seeing anything like

633
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<v Speaker 6>that in the weather. We really are contractor this is

634
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 6>obviously a really big thing when you have cranes out

635
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 6>there when you have bad weather. So they have a

636
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 6>special service just to get them make sure that they're

637
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 6>going to be in the clear. And they made that

638
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 6>call earlier this week that things were going to be

639
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 6>We're going to be a green light for them and

640
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 6>we we we're looking forward to it. We're going to

641
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 6>be happy to get this done.

642
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<v Speaker 1>So the key for everybody, the word has to people

643
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have to understand this is real, This is this is

644
00:33:54.039 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>not scaring people. If they're crazy enough to not take advice,

645
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 1>they could be tied up on one twenty eight is

646
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 1>the Is the pike also going to be impacted as

647
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>well or is it just primarily one twenty eight, So.

648
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 6>It's actually primarily the turnpike. Yeah, one twenty eight will

649
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 6>be impacted as well, but the turnpike is the big one,

650
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 6>so that that's where this that's where the main impacts

651
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 6>will be. So either if you're going east east to

652
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 6>west on the turnpike is when you're going to be

653
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 6>really in trouble. But you're going to see one twenty

654
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 6>it's going to get a lot of congestion around it too.

655
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 6>So people that would normally get off and on that

656
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 6>on that exit from one twenty eight to the pike

657
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 6>are going to you know you're going you're going to

658
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 6>see some serious congestion. So but the turnpike itself, that's

659
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 6>where it really is, and we we've done some projections.

660
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 6>You get about one hundred thousand vehicles a day going

661
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 6>through there on a weekday, and on the weekend it

662
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 6>drops off a little bit, but it's still very very

663
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.719
<v Speaker 6>busy roadway. It's still around seventy five eighty thousand vehicles

664
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<v Speaker 6>and if everybody shows up, you're you're looking at delays

665
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 6>that that are easily into the two or three hour range.

666
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>We've got a really.

667
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 6>Good track record asking with the public, asking them to

668
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 6>stay away from areas like this during these critical times,

669
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 6>and we're hopeful that people are going to take our advice.

670
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 6>They've again we've done this a number of times now,

671
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 6>and that they will they will stay away and that'll

672
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 6>leave it manage all for people that do actually have

673
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 6>to be on the roadway.

674
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Now. I know people have nightmare memories of the Big

675
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 1>dig which lasted for years and was cost overruns. This

676
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 1>is nothing like that. This is a dramatic impact over

677
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's going to be somewhere around a sixty

678
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hour period beginning in about eight minutes from now until

679
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Monday morning, five am, So if you all can avoid

680
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the one twenty eight mass Pike area. How long has

681
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>this tunnel that's about to be demolished, How long is it?

682
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>What was its life span? How many years did it

683
00:35:58.840 --> 00:35:59.639
<v Speaker 1>provide service?

684
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 6>So this was put in place right at the beginning

685
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 6>of the turnpike when the turnpike was put in, So

686
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 6>it's you know, creeping up on seventy five years old, so,

687
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 6>which is about what we try to get most infrastructure.

688
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 6>We try to get it about between a fifty and

689
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 6>a seventy five year lifespan. So it's done its job.

690
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 6>We've done a lot of maintenance on this interchange, in particular,

691
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.400
<v Speaker 6>if you drive this interchange on a regular basis, we've

692
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 6>done a lot of work on it over the years

693
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 6>to keep it open. And it's just the whole thing,

694
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 6>not just this tunnel, but that whole interchange. It's why

695
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 6>we're replacing. It is just really at the end of

696
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 6>its life and that needs this work done.

697
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then when you wrap it up on Monday morning,

698
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.039
<v Speaker 1>at five am. At some point it'll get back to

699
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 1>normal relative normal on the pike in on twenty eight

700
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and then later in June. You do it, you do

701
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the other side. What is the weekend in June? And

702
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>we should talk in advance of that as well, but

703
00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>go when is that?

704
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 6>So that's the weekend of June twentieth, and it will

705
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 6>be the exact same thing, just on the opposite side

706
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 6>of the roadway and again going in at nine pm

707
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 6>on a Friday and opening up by five am on Monday.

708
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 6>And you know, one thing to one thing to note

709
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 6>da in that's that's that's Uh. We put a ton

710
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 6>of work into picking the weekends, not not just planning

711
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 6>for the work, but making sure that the weekends that

712
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 6>we're picking have the least amount of impacts going on.

713
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 6>There's always something going on in the region. You know,

714
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 6>there's this is this is like planning a wedding. There's

715
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 6>there's it's going to inconvenience somebody no matter what you do.

716
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 6>But this these two weekends that we've picked have the

717
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 6>least amount of events going on and therefore the least

718
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 6>amount of traffic statistically, so we know it's going to

719
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 6>be an inconvenience for some people, and and and for

720
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 6>those people that are inconvenice, we hope that they take

721
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 6>a lot of extra time to get to where they're going.

722
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 6>But this these are the two best weekends that we

723
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 6>could pick to get this work done.

724
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the graduation season, I believe is pretty much over,

725
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and obviously you want to get that done before we

726
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 1>start for the summer driving season. And fourth of July

727
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and every weekend in the summer. Ideally, last question, Jonathan, Ideally,

728
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 1>if all of this worked perfectly, and I realize that

729
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>when I asked your question, your answer is going to

730
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>be zero. But realistically, if you could cut it down

731
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 1>from one hundred thousand cars a day, you know, tomorrow

732
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and Sunday, if you could get it down to what

733
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand cars, would that be considered a success or

734
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 1>would still have fifty there's going to be a lot

735
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 1>of backup.

736
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 6>Well, even with fifty, there's going to be a lot

737
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 6>of backup. We'd honestly like to get it closer to

738
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 6>somewhere around twenty five thirty. So if we could get

739
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.239
<v Speaker 6>about a sixty percent diversion, that about sixty percent of

740
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 6>the people that are normally there'd be someplace else. We're

741
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 6>going to consider that a success. And again, it's not

742
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.119
<v Speaker 6>going to be without congestion no matter what you do there.

743
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 6>When you reduce it by two thirds, you're going to

744
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 6>see it. But we want to keep it manageable for

745
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 6>the people who have to use the road. We're really

746
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 6>asking if you don't have to be in that area,

747
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 6>go be someplace else, take an alternate route, but really

748
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 6>don't don't go passing through there if you don't need to.

749
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Jonathan, I really appreciate it. You have sounded the

750
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 1>alarm now twice on night side. Any of my listeners

751
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 1>who get caught there anytime, we'll throw them one twenty eight. Now,

752
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 1>good luck with that, folks. But get off if you can,

753
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and stay off it tomorrow and Sunday, and don't even

754
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.280
<v Speaker 1>think about getting back on it until sometime sometime on

755
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Monday morning.

756
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 5>I know this.

757
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of coordination, and you're in We

758
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>talked a couple of years ago about all the work

759
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.079
<v Speaker 1>that was done on the tunnels. You know, you're always

760
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in these high traffic areas doing very critical work. And

761
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I know that a lot of people who are not

762
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 1>going to pay attention are going to end up instead

763
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.039
<v Speaker 1>of taking four and a half hours to drive to

764
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 1>New York, they end have taken eight hours to drive

765
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to New York or something like that. But they will

766
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>only have themselves to blame. So this is the real deal, folks.

767
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Gulliver is a pretty serious guy about this stuff,

768
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's not overstating it whatsoever. You won't find me

769
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near these locations in the next sixty hours, Jonathan,

770
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and I wish you. I wish you all the best

771
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 1>to you and everyone out there. It's got to be miserable,

772
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>particularly if you get rainy weather tomorrow. So good luck

773
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 1>with it. I hope it goes if far exceeds your expectations,

774
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 1>let me put it like that, and if we've had

775
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 1>a little bit to do with it, I'm very happy

776
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to have contributed.

777
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

778
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Thanks Dan, all right.

779
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.119
<v Speaker 1>My friend, we will we'll talk soon, Okay, we'll talk

780
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.599
<v Speaker 1>in advance of the June weekend as well. Jonathan Gulliver,

781
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>he is with the Massachusetts Department of Transportation. He's the

782
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>highway administrator. He's very clear, stay away, stay absolutely away

783
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 1>from that intersection of one twenty eight in the Massachusetts Turnpike.

784
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 1>You don't even want to go near it. Please take

785
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>his caution, and take his caution seriously. Or right, we

786
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 1>get back to talk about another big fight, another big

787
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 1>fight for the Demulis Supermarket. And I'm a huge fan

788
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 1>of Demoulis Supermarkets, and therefore I'm a huge fan of

789
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the CEO, Arthur Demolis. But maybe some of you look

790
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.119
<v Speaker 1>at it differently. We're going to open it up and

791
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>talk about that right after the nine o'clock news here

792
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>on Nightside. Stay with us. We've got a good night

793
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>coming up for you folks.
