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Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out

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of there.

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Speaker 2: I was done.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult

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is one of the things that turned me.

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Speaker 2: Away the quickest.

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Speaker 1: When I turned my head lights on, it turned and

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looked at us.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things I remember the most, where

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the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.

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Speaker 1: It is just circling these steps like it is waiting

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for me.

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Speaker 4: And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO.

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They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven

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foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's

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where I saw.

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Speaker 2: The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As

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soon as I made eye contact with this thing. I

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don't like death.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Tedfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Tonight.

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We are joined by my guest Jay, Jay. Thanks for

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coming on here and talking with me.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to let the audience know a little

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bit about yourself before we get into it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Well, I used to be a dairy farmer. Well,

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he's lived out in the country. Uh, I've had a

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very strange life. I know that their extraterrestrials are real,

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and I've had not a near death experience. But I

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died from pneumonia when I was young, and I was

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shown and told, I was given a message, and I

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was showing an image. Image was a image of an

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extraterrestrial and I was told, so you will not be afraid.

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And when I turned sixteen years old, I got abducted

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three times, and in the second a function the image

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I was shown when I was when I died, i'd

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met it a race of that species of aliens.

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Speaker 3: M Well, if you want to start from the beginning,

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you can dive on into it and I'll just turn

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it over to you, and if I have any questions,

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I'll last towards the end.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Uh.

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Speaker 2: When I was sixteen, when I was one and a

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half years old, I caught pneumonia. I didn't pay attention

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to my mother because it was wintertime out, and I uh.

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and she'd tell me to keep my coat zipped up

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in my fruits buckled, and I'd grasped the.

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Speaker 1: Unto the porch and go outside.

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Speaker 2: As soon as I got out of her sight, I

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would unzipped my coat, unfuck with my boots, Uh take

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my gloves or emittings on, whatever I happened to have on.

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But I would hear this soft voice in my head

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telling me to do it, and I'd get cold, and

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I'd go in. Of course I'd had snow down my boots,

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my feet would be cold, my hands would my gloves

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was off, My hands were cold and rading. My mother

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used to fold me and tell me, she says, she

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called she called me junior. He says, what did I

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tell you about unzipping your coat and unbuckling your boots

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when you went out?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how.

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Speaker 2: Many times it happened, but anyways, I remember, Oh, I

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got awful sick. I chested hirt and stuff and got

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to the point where I he stopped eating.

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Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was sleep. Well. I remember.

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Speaker 2: My mother waking me up and getting me dressed, and

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my father carrying me out to the car and going out.

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to the car. He opened the door and got in.

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to the back of the car and got in the

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driver's seat, put the key in the ignition, which was

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on a dashboard because this is back in nineteen fifty six,

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and I remember him putting the car in the gear

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and starting to drive out, and I fell asleep, I

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think before the te even got to the road. Our

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driveway was kind of long. And next thing I remember,

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I was looking off to my right and my father

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was standing there and it sounded like they was in

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a heated argument with somebody, maybe with a couple of people.

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and I seen a man standing behind a desk. He

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was in a white gown like a hospital yeah jacket,

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and a toughoscope he had around his neck, and.

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Speaker 1: I could hear my mother she was crying.

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Speaker 2: Then I must have fell back to sleep, because next

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thing I remember was I was leaving my body. I remember,

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I just couldn't leave it. I had to prepare myself

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to leave the body. First thing I did. My eyes

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was disconnected from the vessel's eye. The vessel is what

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I call my body, and it went back to my

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brain and my brain disconnected from the vessel's brain, and

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I started going down towards the net. I could see

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going down through the throat, I could see like Adam's apple,

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uh windpipe and all that stuff. And once I I

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was my head was down into my chest. I had

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to retrieve my arms up out from the vessel's arms.

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to my chest, and same with my my legs and

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stuff my toes coming up through the beating up the

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legs and end of the vessel. Then I left out

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through the chest and I was as I was passing

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through that I could see flashing bones, I saw flushed

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skin and going through the blankets that was covering the vessel.

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foot of the bed at an angle. And as I

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was doing doing that, I was.

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Speaker 1: Happy.

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Speaker 2: I felt good because I was cramped in the vessel.

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knew as I got to the foot foot of the bed,

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I was probably like three or four feet above it,

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and I knew somebody was supposed to meet me to

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take me back.

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Speaker 1: I got to.

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Speaker 2: Guide me back where I came from. Well, they wasn't there.

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then I thought, I said, no, I better not, I

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better stay here. And then I started remembering that from

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from what I was, I knew where I came from.

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I knew why I why I was here in a

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third dimension, uh hum, I knew that I could shape

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shift into anything I wanted to look like. And so

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after that, I kind of looked down and I could

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see what I looked like, and.

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Speaker 1: I did a ninety.

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Speaker 2: Degree return to my right, and I could see my

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bedroom wall, but I could see right through it. I

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could tell it was dark out black. I could thought

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I knew it was nighttime. Also, I looked down again

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and I could see the rest of what I looked like.

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one eighty I could see a cabinet. I could see

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objects in it, but I could see through the stuff.

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wall I could see out through.

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Speaker 1: The wall, and.

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Speaker 2: The hallway I couldn't see past, and the next wall

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Speaker 1: Then I did.

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Speaker 2: Another eighty degree turned to my left, and I could

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see the another wall. Then I could see a room

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out there it was the living room. I could see furniture,

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and I seen the door which that door led to

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the porch and another door, but I couldn't see past

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the door that led outside. Then I looked down and

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I seen the vessel I was in. I knew I

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came from that vessel. It was laying there. It was

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the blankets were covered up to its neck, and its

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head was turned to its right should arm over its

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right shoulder. I could see its mouth was open a

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little bit, and I I could see the tongue ticking out,

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and I knew it was lifeless.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Had no feeling of sorrow or pity for it. It

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was nothing more than a vessel to me. And I

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remembered its parents, and they meant nothing to me. So

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I filled it back up and I did H one

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eighty back to my left, and as I got there,

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Speaker 1: A doorway and way back in it, I could see

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a bright light.

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Speaker 2: The color I was in that light, we were the

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same color, the same light, really bright, and.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was the way home.

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Speaker 2: So I it's already to move to it, because I

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was not going to wait no longer for whoever was

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supposed to be there.

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Speaker 1: I was going to go through it.

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right in the doorway, I see a little black dot.

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stopped and I watched as it come closer, I could

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see it take a shape. And as it's moving forwards,

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it's coming real slow. I start to see a porsol,

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then legs, arms and a head, and it moves forward.

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Speaker 2: Doorway aways and I, now I don't ask this, I

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just think that. I thought, why am I being shown

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this image? And I received the message. Now this message

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I received, I heard it through every bit of what

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I was, the whole of me. Anyways, it said, so

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you will not be afraid. Well I wasn't afraid of it,

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but I couldn't understand why it would tell me that.

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Speaker 1: Then it told me says, you have to go back. Oh.

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I didn't want to go back.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go back home to where I come from,

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which I my inner south, as I call it, is

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an interdimensional sen.

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Speaker 1: And it wanted to go back. Then it was like

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something grabed the whole of the whole of what I was.

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Speaker 2: And it made me turn around, and it pushed me

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down back into the vessel. I want in the vessel.

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I had to reverse through the things like my I

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had the shape shift. I had my legs into the

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legs and armed into the arms, and the head up

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into the head, and the eyes back to the head.

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I remember, I started to wake up and I was

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still in a lot of pain in my chest bad.

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sit up and take the jar off the table and

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eat it all. And I responded back by saying, I'm

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too sick. In two weeks, I can't do it. Then

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it said through me, I will give you the strength.

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without no problem. I reached it was my night table

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was on the left of me. I reached over and

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took the jar. It was there now, I don't remember

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if it was in a box or if it was

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just sitting there on a.

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Speaker 1: Night table.

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Speaker 2: I grabbed it with my left hand and I took it,

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and it was an unopened jar with my right hand.

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Speaker 1: I opened it up.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was like nothing, and I put my

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right index finger I stuck it in the air. I

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got as much as I could get get onto it.

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I put it in my mouth and on my tongue,

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and oh my god, it was the worst taste and

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stuff I ever had tasted. Well, I ate the whole

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jar of it, and I remember setting it back down

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on the table and I started to lay back down

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because I was still feeling terrible. Well, I think before

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my head even touched the pillow, I must have passed

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out or just fell back to sleep. Next thing, I remember,

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my mother was shaking me. She said, Junior, She said,

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did you eat that? How did you get it open?

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And I don't know if I answered her because I

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was still so sick and told me She says, you

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gotta wake up. He says, I got to change your

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The jam is in your underwear. She said, you feed

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and pooped them. And after that, I don't I don't

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know if I just was just out of it still,

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but that anyways, Uh, that's what saved my life was

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eating that jar of stuff. Now what that jar was,

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it was the biggest jar of vicked paper rub they saw.

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I ate that whole jar, and I tell her that

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was the most terriblest stuff I ever ate in my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh after I got better.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to tell my mother and father what happened

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and what I was told, and soft again I heard

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this soft, soft voice in my head telling me the

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time's not right, over and over again times night right

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or not now. So when I got about I think

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about nine years old, I drew a picture of what

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I saw and I was going to show it to

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my mother. Well, when I went to throw it to her,

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she looked at it and she told me never talk

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about this to anybody or show it to anybody. First,

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I didn't understand why I but now I do, and anyways,

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I just.

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Speaker 1: Let it go.

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Speaker 2: Then when I turned sixteen, I had three strange nights.

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I would it was summertime and it was hand season,

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our busiest time of the year, and my bedtime, my

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bedtime in the summer was nine o'clock every night, and

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I went to bed at nine o'clock and I would

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turn off my light because the light switch was on

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the wall, so I had to turn that off because

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it wasn't reachable by my where my bed was my

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bed was in the middle of the room, and this

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was off by the door. Anyways, I would turn my

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right off and get in bed, and I had a

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routine I did. I called it my thing. And my

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mother always used to ask me, how do you get

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your bed such a mess? And I don't think i'd

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ever asked her. I'd say, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know when.

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Speaker 2: Any Ways, I would lay on my back, cover myself up,

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picked my feet up into the air until almost, you know,

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like a ninety degree my feet up way up in

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the air to pull pull the blankets out from underneath,

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out between the mattress and the box springs. Then what

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my feet didn't pull out, I pulled out with my hands.

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Now I had to sleep on either my left the

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right side because when I was I think somewhere is

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around the twelve thirteen years old, I had a tumor

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in the back of my mouth and part of my

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throat and I had to have operated on or just

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right after I got out of for summer break from school,

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I had to have it done and got I had

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a hundred stitches in my mouth, and I remember when

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the doctor that put him in when I went there

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every time he pulled one out, he would count it

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and he said, oh, he said one hundred.

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Speaker 1: And he said that's I took out a hundred and

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I put.

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Speaker 2: One hundred in. And because of that, I kind of

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had to learn. I had to learn how to talk

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all over again. Anyways, But what it did, because my

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mouth produced so much saliva, if I laid on my

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back to sleep, I would have drowned it in my

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own saliva. So I had to sleep on my sides.

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And from when that happened and doing that, I even

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to this day, I still sleep on my sides. Well, anyways,

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back to the strange night, Well, i'd be in bed,

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Well i'd wake up because I was freaking comb like

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I just come out of a meat locker. I was

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so comb shivering. And the bed would be made so perfect.

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The butting was cup between the mattress and the box springs,

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all the way around the bed, all the way up

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to where all my armpits were, and the over top

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of my chest. My hands would be. Well when I

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when I stopped, I put my either my right or

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left arm up under my pillow, so my head is

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like on it. Well, my arms should be to my

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side palm down on top of the blankets, and the

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blanket should be folded down like maybe five or six inches,

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but but I was still comb and I would sit

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up and I noticed my T shirt was wet, and

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I said, what the hell? And I put my hands

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up to my chest to grab it, and I could

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see like I thought it was fodder. Between my fingers

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and my thumb and my first index finger, I'd let

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go and the water would just like just jump right

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back into my T shirt. I don't figure out what

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the hell's going on, but get up out of bed

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and take my T shirt and I would feel it,

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and I mean, my T shirt was just totally wet,

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not one guy spot on it, but yet my underwear

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were dry. My hair wasn't white. I had kind of

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like I had a little semi long hair. It was

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down past my ears that should have been wet, but

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it was dry. I con't forget out what the heck's

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going on. I would put a new T shirt on,

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or a dry T shirt lean and I would check

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my bedding because I thought, god it it would have

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to be wet too, my back being on it. But

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it was it was. Everything was dry except for my

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T shirt. Well, I just I turned my love and

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my light was turned on, and I know I turned

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it off because I turned it off every night. Well,

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my light was on, so I went turned it off,

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got back in bed, did my thing, pulled the blankets

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out again, and I thought to myself, what the heck,

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I said, I must I must have been dreaming, and

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I don't remember what it was.

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Speaker 1: So got called.

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Speaker 2: I'd get called it swix in the morning so it

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could be helping with Milton. By six thirty. Well, I

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just thought I remembered, you know, getting up when I

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got when I got called, I got up and I

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remembered being up earlier. It was like I would get

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off the ground. There was fire around between three and

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three thirty in the morning. Well, I'd go back to

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bed so I could get a couple more hours sleep. Anyways,

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I remember taking the T shirt off and it being

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so wet, like where I threw it on the floor.

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Well it was where I threw it on the floor,

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and I picked it up, and I was going to

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show everybody how wet it was. But it was bone dry,

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it wasn't wet. And being ball up as well as

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it was, it still should have been wet, and that's

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when I thought, man, I must be dreaming, just don't

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remember it, so I.

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Speaker 1: Just let it go at that. Well, it was like

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a week after that the same thing happened.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, let me back up a little bit here,

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I'm getting ahead of myself. Well, the first time I

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did it, or it happened to me, it was like

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like two days later. We was I was in the

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back of our pickup truck and we was going to

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go bail. Hey. Well, I was sitting on a tire

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in the back of the truck. Well, just out of

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the blue, I seemed like a vision. I was walking

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up this spiral ramp and I was being married. I

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was being controlled to walk up.

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Speaker 1: I had no.

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Speaker 2: Control of my my motor control my body functions.

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Speaker 1: Like walking and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And as I'm walking up this ramp, it kind of

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the only thing I can move is my eyes and

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my head just a little bit. I looked off to

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my left and there's this wall. It's a bright, shiny

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silver color. And at first I thought I was in

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a grain bun and I was looking for where like

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the panels would be boulded together, to see bolts and stuff,

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But there was nothing I mean, it was perfectly smooth,

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and I noticed it had a curved for it as

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as I looked and looking down it was curved in,

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and looking up it started to get curved in towards

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the top. And I'm still walking why this is going on?

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And I kind of looking at my left and in

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the center of this spiral ramp. Uh, they were kind

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of like.

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Speaker 1: In front of me.

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Speaker 2: They weren't exactly in the center of the spiral ramp.

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They was at one side of it, like towards the

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front of it. The way I was walking, there's all

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these different size pipes from like maybe a half inch

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up to I don't know afoot or better that. I mean,

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some of them were really good. And I can feel

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whatever is controlling me, it's grip on me is loosening.

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I can start to move my head more. I'm trying

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to see where I'm at. And I looked off to

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my right, over my right, older and kind of down,

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and I saw this little I thought it was a

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small person. I thought it was a child because it

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was only like three and a half four foot paul

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and I could I could feel what it was thinking

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in my mind. It didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: Be, I call it.

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Speaker 2: It didn't want to be my chaperone. It wanted to

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be doing something else. It wanted to be sitting down

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with feets popped up. And the first thing it popped

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into my mind, I said, it's lazy. Well, when I

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said that, or thought that, it kind of looked towards

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me and seeing that I was looking at it, and

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that was the end of the division. And I still

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had no no clue what it was. Now this thing

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had kind of like almond shaped eyes, no hair on it.

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It was cray and I didn't know what the hell

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I was looking at. I thought at first I thought

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it was a child, and I told myself, that's not

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a child. But I had no idea because back then

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I didn't have about what extra cresturals look like or

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even people being abucted. So a week later, it was

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just like a repeat of the first time where I

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was in bed the wet T shirt. At this time

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I made sure I put the wet t shirt right

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by the foot of my bedpost.

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Speaker 1: So although I.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't dreaming, and the same thing, it was dry and stuff,

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and I just keep telling myself, I'm dreaming.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what it is, so.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happened after that when there so a week later,

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the same thing happened. Well, this time, when I woke up,

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I had a feeling like I had been in the military.

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I can't figure that out, but it never was in

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the military. And I had this haunting feeling I had killed.

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Then after I got called and got up in the morning,

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like I wanted to slew everybody every time somebody said something.

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And also one other thing I remember is I was

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in this tube and I was in my just my

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T shirt and my underwear, and my T shirt was

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wet too, and I was freezing. I mean, I thought

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I was going to freeze the death ball. I was

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in this tube. It was clear, and it had white

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patches in it. Now, these white patches remind me of

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a big white, fluffy, fuff buffy fluffy cloud. And I

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was moving extremely fast in this tube. And I looked

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out and I could see I knew they were stars.

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They were long, white streaked. There would be a lot

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of them, but they were all along streaks. I knew

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they were stars. And also this tube, it reminded me

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kind of of a child roller coaster had real gentle

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bends in it like gentle bend to the left, were

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right up and down, and I could see where out

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the tube, and I mean I could see.

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Speaker 1: It for miles miles and I could see it.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of bending around to the right because

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I was going through it, but I mean I was

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moving extremely fast. Well, anyways, after the third time I

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come up with this idea, it happened.

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Speaker 1: The fourth time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna move, I'm gonna start righting button.

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I'm gonna start hollering as well as i can to

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have everybody come in and see how I am in

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my bed.

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Speaker 1: The fourth night.

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Speaker 2: Fourth time never happened, So I kind of more or

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less just talk myself in too.

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Speaker 1: It was dreamed and I can't remember what they were.

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I let it go with that.

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Speaker 2: Now, I was sixteen at the time. I just happened

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to turn sixteen in June eighteenth, and just happened started

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happening at right after end of June, early July.

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Speaker 1: Well, I let that. I let that go. Well, I

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was dating a skull.

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Speaker 2: And it was in nineteen seventy two. It was in

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the fall. We had gone. It was on a Saturday

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night because I had the following some day it was

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my turn to have a day off. She'd want to

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go see this movie late late, No, I don't know.

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It probably started like midnight or something. So when it

482
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was over, it's like one point thirty two o'clock. Well,

483
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,720
she she lived on this uh she lived in the

484
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,000
country like I did, and she lived on a like

485
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,799
a crossroad. At one end was the main road and

486
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,440
the killin was a Another main.

487
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:38,319
Speaker 1: Road road she lived on was called mass Hill Road.

488
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:39,640
That was in.

489
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: Uh Omar in New York. In the it was called

490
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:52,319
the town was called Horse SAIDs. Anyways, it was a

491
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,200
mountain and I took her home. Well, I called it

492
00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:01,119
the backway replace. Anyways, you had to go up a

493
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,279
hill quite steep, and as you got up there you

494
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,759
had to turn and a bear off. It beared off

495
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,720
to the right, and it straightened out and went up

496
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,079
to the top of the mountain. But he wasn't on

497
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:14,960
the top of it. You're still off to the side

498
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,480
of it. Then the road as it started to go

499
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,640
down and turned into a dirt road, it wasn't paved anymore.

500
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,680
That went for like I don't know mile mile and

501
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,759
a half where it wasn't paved, going down and there

502
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:33,400
was a nice flat spot and the cat As he

503
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,319
got to the end of it, it curved off to

504
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,079
the loft and had to go up the hill a

505
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,160
little bit more. Well, anyways, on this flat section of

506
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,799
the road, I felt like something tapped me on my

507
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,279
left shoulder. And first thing that popped in my mind was, oh,

508
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,200
must be when I was when we was in the theater.

509
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,599
Somebody might have gotten my car was in the back seat,

510
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,839
so I looked around to see.

511
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Well, as I turned my head.

512
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: To the left, I noticed the I'd go right right

513
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,839
light out the window, but I didn't look at it

514
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,559
because I was more concerned about if somebody was in

515
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:12,960
my back seat, Like, look back there, and I couldn't

516
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,640
see anybody. And so as I was turned around, I

517
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,079
looked and the.

518
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Light was still there.

519
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't watch it because on this road, if

520
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,200
you went off to the way I was born, it

521
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,079
was north. If he went off to the right, I

522
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,319
was going to go down the hill, and it was

523
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,079
quite far and the road wasn't very wide, and you

524
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:36,039
had to be careful if somebody come with them up

525
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:37,279
the other way.

526
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Fast.

527
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: You didn't want to be in the way. Anyways, then

528
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,279
I realized, well, I told my day, I said, must

529
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:48,680
be an airplane coming in the land at our the airport,

530
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,960
because our airport was word for that light was coming,

531
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,880
but it was a real small airport. Then I realized,

532
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,920
wait a minute. Our airport was so small it closed

533
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,480
down at nine o'clock. I mean after nine o'clock. There

534
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:09,160
was no flights coming in or out of it. So

535
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,079
I said, that can't be an aeroplane. Plus because I

536
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,160
thought it was its landing light. But there was only

537
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200
one light, and I said that lot of neuroplane. So

538
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,480
I stopped the car. We get out one front of

539
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,400
the car. Now this is coming from the west. That

540
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,279
was still to the west to watching it, and it comes.

541
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Almost over top of.

542
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,599
Speaker 2: Us directly, just a little bit maybe fifteen degree angle

543
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,519
in front of us. Now I couldn't say how fast

544
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,680
it was gone because it was up so high. It's

545
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,359
hard to take judge, you know how fast something is going. Anyways,

546
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,960
this isn't got over over top of us there in

547
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:53,599
front of us, that did a ninety degree slide north.

548
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:59,480
As soon as it did that, I do it wasn't

549
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,240
any of our aircraft. We don't have an aircraft that

550
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,640
could do that stuff back in nineteen seventy two. We

551
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,519
kept watching that and it went to where it was, oh,

552
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,480
I would say, about the size of a ping pong ball.

553
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:16,760
I mean almost couldn't see it.

554
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,079
Speaker 1: But it didn't stop. It just made a reverse.

555
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: The same course it did want did the ninety degree

556
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,639
slide nor Us, And as it was getting closer, we

557
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,760
both received the message telepathic message. It said, we're not

558
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,559
interested in you. And we looked at each other like

559
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:40,599
saying what And it goes right over top of us directly,

560
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,679
and it goes south and it goes probably the same

561
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,119
distance because it was almost out of psych a little ball.

562
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,039
It started back and as it comes back, it was

563
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:52,960
coming back the same thing again. We got another telepathic message.

564
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:59,360
I said, we're not interested in your planet. Then as

565
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,320
soon as I heard that, I knew they wasn't talking

566
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239
about me and her, because at first when I heard it,

567
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,039
I thought they mount us two.

568
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:10,199
Speaker 1: Anyways, as it.

569
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: Got real close to where it did the ninety degrees

570
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:18,039
slide nor we received another telepathic message.

571
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: It said, watch what we can do, and we just wait.

572
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,159
Speaker 2: Both of us had our eyes blew down it because

573
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:28,159
we knew something was going to happen before they told us,

574
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:33,519
and it got worked did to turn and without slowing

575
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:37,320
down or anything, stopped Bednet's tracks just for a split second.

576
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,679
Then it took off so fast.

577
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: To the east.

578
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean, if you had a camera in your hand

579
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,599
and you knew when it was going to take off,

580
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:48,920
you couldn't react fast enough, and it was gone out

581
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,599
of sight. I mean before you could blink your eye

582
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,119
and we could tell it was headed out into deep space.

583
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,159
Then after that was over, I knew what happened to

584
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:06,920
me in sixty nine. What weren't dreams. I knew I

585
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:13,239
was being abducted. So that left me with a big question.

586
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:19,480
What was going on? What was happening in these abductions?

587
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't.

588
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: I never watched working on living on a farming country.

589
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,400
We never watched television very much. I mean that was

590
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:34,079
maybe on a rainy day and on Sunday nights we

591
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,119
used to watch Walt Disney. That was about as much

592
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:41,159
TV as I watched. I never seen anything on TV

593
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:49,639
about extraterrestrials or people being abucted until way later in life. Well,

594
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:57,800
in seventy five, I got married and I put all

595
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,599
that stuff behind me, had an instant family and at there.

596
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:07,000
Well it went on, and then in the eighties I

597
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:13,320
got out of farming. I got tired of it. Anyways,

598
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:18,880
I had started. Oh, I think it was Ronald Reagan

599
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,440
in the late eighties. He was given a speech at

600
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,119
the UN and he was talking about some bad aliens

601
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,400
coming to Earth and like Russia and China we're all

602
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,159
working together. Well, that triggered something. I knew something about

603
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:40,639
ed aliens. Now, this is what put me on the

604
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:44,280
the hunk. I called because I wanted to know what

605
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,400
was going on. So I started watching trying to find things.

606
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,360
And through the nineties I started seeing, you know, a

607
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,480
lot of stuff about abductions and things like that. But

608
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,840
once in a while something would trigger something like seeing

609
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,800
things about the moon landings and stuff like that. And

610
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,679
I knew the moon had three colors to it.

611
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: It was I call it.

612
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,559
Speaker 2: I call it like an off white or an antique

613
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:19,360
white color, a gray color, and orange or rusty color.

614
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,880
I kept thinking, why do I know about this? Then

615
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,480
I kept a base on the moon. I said, what

616
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,519
why would I know this? So I didn't know who

617
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,199
to turn for for any help. I didn't know nothing

618
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,199
about move on. All that of course I did learn

619
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,079
about them, but there was so many years I just

620
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,320
ordered you know, they would just not do anything about

621
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000
it or nothing they could do with check on it.

622
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:56,159
So anyways, in two thousand, my wife and I we

623
00:38:56,679 --> 00:39:01,840
finally we decided we wanted to go different directions. So

624
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,239
in seventy two weeks or ninety two, we got a

625
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,679
divorce and I kept the house that we had, and

626
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,639
I had a brother that was living in Florida while

627
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:18,960
he he wanted me to come down there with him.

628
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,280
So I decided, Yeah, I'll go down with him.

629
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: And he and him and his wife.

630
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 5: So I uh and on just a second, So so

631
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,559
I uh.

632
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Decided I would sell my house and go down with him.

633
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,840
So the people that I was selling the house to,

634
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,400
they they was the son of one of my neighbors

635
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:20,639
I was friends with. Well, anyways, I I sold it

636
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:24,639
to Diamond. They let me stay there for a couple

637
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:29,039
of months. I could get all my personal information I've

638
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:33,159
taken care of for my personal things, taking care of well.

639
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,480
The last month I was there, Oh, this real strange

640
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,880
thing happened. I mean I thought it was actually sleep

641
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,480
at me because when I tried to go to sleep,

642
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,719
it was like something was folding me down. I couldn't move,

643
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,079
you know. I read up on it and it was

644
00:40:52,440 --> 00:41:00,280
all the signs of having that uh whatever just called

645
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:07,039
it anyways, Uh, I was being helped down as on

646
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:08,880
my back, I was on the table.

647
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:14,599
Speaker 1: And there was a big right leg above me.

648
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,559
Speaker 2: About oh it was probably between my waists and my

649
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,639
knees up in the in the fort the ceiling like

650
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:29,039
operating room in the hospital. Well, as I was laying there,

651
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:34,199
I thought I must be wounded. I thought, why am

652
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,480
I thinking thinking that?

653
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: Well?

654
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Is that there these four objects would come out of

655
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:48,440
the dark into the white, and they reminded me of dominoes.

656
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,400
As one would move forward a little bit, another one

657
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,599
would come behind it. This was happening all four. There

658
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:03,280
was one on each side toward my shoulders and one

659
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:09,159
on each leg between my knees and my ankles. Well

660
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:13,760
as the first one. For the first one of them

661
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:18,599
would get up towards my shoulders my legs. Shortly after

662
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:22,719
that another one would be moving forward and another one

663
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,119
behind that, and each one would go into the first one,

664
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:30,599
and they would start to take a shape, but never

665
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,880
take a full shape, because there's a couple of them

666
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,599
got there, I could. I was free, you know, and

667
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,199
it was gone. Well this one for a whole month,

668
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,840
and I just I couldn't take it no more. I

669
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,840
was going to call. It was on a Friday night,

670
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,400
and when it happened, I said, this is no more

671
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:56,440
of this. I says, I'm going to call a psychiatrist.

672
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,199
Speaker 1: They knew.

673
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: First thing Monday, because I knew he was closed on

674
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,639
the weekends.

675
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: I know. Sleep paralysis is what I thought I had.

676
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:09,840
That was a sleep paralysis.

677
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: Anyways, when Saturday came, and it happened when I went

678
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,519
to bed again, and so I said Sunday, when I

679
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:28,960
got up, I thought to myself, I'm gonna come up

680
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,320
with this idea. As I said, I'm just gonna when

681
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:34,480
they come, I'm just gonna wait there. I'm not gonna

682
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,559
try to fight to get loose and see what happened.

683
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,639
So Sunday night came, of course it came.

684
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,119
Speaker 1: This time I tried not to fight. Now I have

685
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,840
I have two bottles going on.

686
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: One is trying to fight loose and one is for

687
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:53,239
me fighting not to fight, try to get loose.

688
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: I just laid there the best I could and they come.

689
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,639
Speaker 2: Well, as they joined now the shape is more than

690
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,639
when all of them got into each one of them,

691
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:11,760
all four of them there It was the same bean

692
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,599
I seen in my first abduction. On the other side

693
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:19,440
of the ramp. There was four of them, the ones

694
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,119
on my shoulder or up by my shoulder that they

695
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,880
had their hands on each my my left and right shoulder,

696
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,480
and a hand on my on my just above my elbow,

697
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:34,679
and my hand was on table with my my palms down,

698
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,000
and the same ones with on my legs.

699
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: They had their hands a hand just above my knee pushing.

700
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: Down and a whold of my ankles, and I'm picking

701
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,320
my head up looking the thing. I got wounded, but

702
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,840
I still think, why am I thinking I've been wounded? Anyways,

703
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:58,960
after a short period of time, the stall extraterrestrial comes

704
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,679
out of the dark. It was about, oh is it come?

705
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,519
It was just below my I would say, my waist.

706
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,440
And when it gets under the light, I can see

707
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,480
it to its kind of blacks the light now because

708
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,880
before the light so where I can't look directly up

709
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,440
the same one I seen when I was out of

710
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,360
the body, and I was told, so you will not

711
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:29,880
be afraid. So it comes up to me just at

712
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,719
my waist, takes its left hand, puts it.

713
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: On my chest. It's calm of the Tan. It's just

714
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,360
below my.

715
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,679
Speaker 2: H sober plot shakes here below the chest, and its

716
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,159
fingers are all the way up, just below my Adam's

717
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:51,480
apple and only three fingers, just like what I was

718
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,760
shown the image of. Well, anyways, it takes its right

719
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,960
hand and it reaches up and I can see this

720
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,599
instrument of here or it grabs it and it starts

721
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,480
to pull it down, pulling it down, I can see,

722
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:10,360
Oh my god, it's a huge syringe.

723
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: It's got a needle for it. It's getting closer. I said,

724
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,119
oh my god, it's gonna stick me in the eye.

725
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna hurt like hell. And I kind of like

726
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,519
preparing for it because I know it's gonna hurt when

727
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:24,320
it sticks me in the eye with it. Well, as

728
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,920
it gets closer, does it's not coming towards my eyes,

729
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:34,880
going towards my forehead, and it touches me just before

730
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,039
just above my eye, with the corner of my eye

731
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:44,320
would be the fridge of my nose, and none of

732
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,239
it touches me. It's like an avalanche of information coming

733
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,400
into my head. I mean, there was so much of it,

734
00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:01,400
I couldn't absorb it all. Well, anyways, after it happened, Oh,

735
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,079
my head hurt so bad. I thought I was going

736
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:04,920
to explode. And they were gone.

737
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,639
Speaker 1: There was no more.

738
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: I was right away, and I remembered what happened in

739
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,519
each of the abductions. Okay, the first time I was abducted,

740
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,000
they took me to the to the Moon on a

741
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:22,599
base on the back side of the Moon as we

742
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,119
call it now. When I was walking down the ramp

743
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:34,199
from the ship, it was close to a crater maybe

744
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,840
where the ramp was maybe three foot it was the crater,

745
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,719
and I could see above me. I could see the

746
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,639
shape of the ship. It was saucer shape. Now I

747
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,440
have a chaperone with me.

748
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: But also.

749
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm not just walking down this ramp. I'm in a spacesuit.

750
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,519
And as I step off the ramp, because I'm kind

751
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:03,119
of like being and maid to walk down it, step

752
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:06,119
on the Moon's surface and I sink down into it.

753
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,360
My other foot goes on and I sink more and

754
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,039
kind of take my feet and shuffling back and forth,

755
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:18,440
and I'm sinking right down and I probably want above

756
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:22,920
my ankles a little bit It reminded me of well,

757
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,760
just like walking in flower and that's where I seen

758
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,199
the different colors, the off white, the grayish color.

759
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: And the orange and red.

760
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,639
Speaker 2: Well, anyways, after I did that, I kind of whipped

761
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,440
out and I could see the crater. Down in the crater,

762
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,519
I can see, I don't know, there's maybe two or

763
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,760
three tall buildings, and there's like blood lights coming off

764
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,519
of two of them, and they're shining down and I

765
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:59,559
can see on my left and my right side there's

766
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:05,239
like these quants some hunts coming off these buildings. And

767
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,480
the next thing I remember, I was at the end

768
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,079
of the one quantum hunt that was to my left.

769
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,559
There's a light flashing down. There's a platform there, and

770
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:20,000
told to go up onto the platform and go through

771
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:25,559
the doors and stop. I went through the doors and

772
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:28,679
I stopped geors mother set. They were like swinging doors

773
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,840
if they only swung one one way, And as I

774
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,480
was stopping there, this missed. It like a fog came down.

775
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:42,920
It probably lasted like thirty or forty five seconds. Then

776
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,679
I was told to wait until it cleared and go

777
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,400
through the other doors, and it probably like thirty seconds

778
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:53,679
or so it cleared and I went through the door

779
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,159
and I was told to turn go left and go

780
00:49:56,199 --> 00:50:00,599
into that room. Well, it didn't have the room didn't

781
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:02,920
have no door. It was part of the quantum haut.

782
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,079
It was the end of it. And UH topped the

783
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:11,800
roofwork down to the ground. Well, there was a man there.

784
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:18,119
He told me to stand there and he was going

785
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:21,000
to help me out of my face suit. Well he did.

786
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,639
The first thing he took out, he unhooked some hoses.

787
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,119
Then he took off my helmet and helped me out

788
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:32,199
of the suit. Then I was there. He took and

789
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,039
he got got me undressed. I was still just my

790
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:39,679
T shirt and underwear. Well, he told me to take

791
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,639
him off. He put like a hospital down on me.

792
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:45,280
He had me turn around and he tied it in

793
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,360
the back for me. Then he took my underwear T shirt.

794
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,079
He fulled him up, put him on his clipboard that

795
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,440
had some paperwork on it, and he put more I

796
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,119
think they were more down because the pile was quite high.

797
00:50:58,159 --> 00:50:59,679
When he handed me the saying, he told me to

798
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:01,400
go out and go to my left. He said, go

799
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:04,599
down to the other set of doors down there. Some

800
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,000
doors would have been underneath the buildings. He said to

801
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,800
your left will be another gentleman down there.

802
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: For you to see. So as I'm going down, I'm looking.

803
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:17,639
Speaker 2: To see if there's any windows and the crops some huts,

804
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:20,639
see if I could see outside. Well, there wasn't any,

805
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,960
and I got my eye looked up and I could

806
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,920
see stars.

807
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,039
Speaker 1: It was clear. It was like it wasn't a windows.

808
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: It was long, but it was like I was just

809
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:40,440
looking through the quantum Hunt material itself. And as I

810
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:43,119
walked down through there, and I could, like I said,

811
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:44,679
I could see the stars and it was kind of

812
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,760
like an S shape even back left and right stuff. Well,

813
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,400
I got down to where the other gentleman when he

814
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,760
told me come in, he said, have a seat, and

815
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,880
he took the footboard from me with the clothes on,

816
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,559
and he took the clothes off of it and he

817
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:05,400
sold out one or two papers. Then he put the

818
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,320
clothes back on footboard handed to me, told me to

819
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,239
go out there, go out.

820
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,119
Speaker 1: And got the doors to.

821
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: The left of me, which would have been underneath the

822
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,519
two buildings. Well, anyways, as I went through that one,

823
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:23,559
I had to go to the right a little bit,

824
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,639
so that way, well, just before I got to them doors,

825
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:33,199
I blacked out. I don't remember anything, so anyways, on it.

826
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:38,960
That's that's an abduction. It was a test for fear. Now,

827
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,559
when I woke up, I was standing up and I

828
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,960
was opening my eyes real slow.

829
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean I was.

830
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:52,559
Speaker 2: Being controlled to open my eyes slow, and I could feel,

831
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:58,599
Oh my god, I never had anything like like it before.

832
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,800
Since then something was right in my mind. I mean,

833
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:08,519
it was like two minds together. And as I'm opening

834
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:12,880
my eyes slowly, it's not a telepathic message, I mean,

835
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:19,000
it's more than that. And it tells me you're forbidden

836
00:53:19,039 --> 00:53:25,679
to turn around and look at them. And I'm pops

837
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,079
into my head right away. Who's them? Why can't I

838
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:32,239
look at them? Who's them? And it tells me this

839
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,800
is a test for fear. And now all this is

840
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,239
going on at the same time. Now, as I'm looking

841
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,559
out looking, I'm trying to see where I'm at. I

842
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,599
see a window in front of me, but it's not

843
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:52,440
a window, just like it's looking right through the wall

844
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,800
of the ship and I could see it's really brock

845
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,719
out there. But I'm still looking around and see where

846
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,519
I am. Well, this thing is telling me this is

847
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:03,519
a test for fear. They want to see your reaction

848
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,719
to No One, you're in space and you're not on

849
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,280
your planet. And as I look looking out the window

850
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,239
and look down to my left a little bit, I

851
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,000
see this planet. Oh it's a beautiful blue color, and

852
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:22,000
I realized it was Earth. Now, it was somewhere between

853
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:26,960
the size of a copper ball and the basketball. But

854
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,920
even that far away, I mean, once you see Earth

855
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,960
with your own eyes from space, no picture does.

856
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,119
Speaker 1: It just well?

857
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:39,599
Speaker 2: Anyways, I keep asking it, I keep thinking, why can't

858
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:40,199
I see these?

859
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: And it told me. It says it was a group

860
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:47,159
of five beams from other planets.

861
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: They want to see and know your reaction, and one

862
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,280
human military person. They all want to see what you're

863
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:05,079
reaction to no one knows. Two things. Then it continues

864
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:11,760
to tell me that they they be in that group

865
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,239
of five extraprescials.

866
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,599
Speaker 1: They want.

867
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: All humans to know about them. But they have rules,

868
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,440
and one of the rules is before they make full

869
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:33,639
contact with any planet, all ruling powers. That's what it

870
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,280
told me. Ruling powers for a fear on Earth is

871
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,679
governments have to agree on it, and if just one

872
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,159
says no, they won't make full contact.

873
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:52,679
Speaker 1: And that was that was the end of the second one.

874
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:59,679
Speaker 2: Now, the third time they took me, well, they took

875
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,599
me to and when I was going down to the

876
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:10,280
ramp of the ship, I see to my left now, well,

877
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:12,960
I was looking around to see where I was at,

878
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:17,400
and it was a big cave, I mean really big,

879
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,000
and off to my left, I see a bunch of

880
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:27,199
people standing the line like for military inspection. And there's

881
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:32,519
this man. He's in front of him. He's pacing back

882
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:36,800
and forth and looking at him, and as he gets

883
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,880
to the end towards me, he looks over and looks

884
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,920
at me, and he starts at the top of his

885
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:47,119
voice giving the speech. He says, welcome to Mars. Now

886
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:49,719
why he's saying this. He's walking back and forth in

887
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,960
front of front of everybody and looking at me.

888
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: At times he says, like I said, he said, welcome

889
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,400
to Mars. He says, you've been drafted into a secret

890
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,320
space program. Huh.

891
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,639
Speaker 2: He says it's called the Secret Space Force. And he

892
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,119
continues to say. He says, you're going to be here

893
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,000
for a while. He says, we have one mission for you,

894
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:21,199
and one mission only, And he says you don't have

895
00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:26,760
to worry about being missed. And I thought to myself,

896
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,960
what the hell does he mean? I won't be missed?

897
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,679
I said, as soon as they call me for milking

898
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:33,280
and I'm not there, they're going to know that I'm missing.

899
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,320
So that was what happened in the third debuction. Now

900
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,440
I'm going to stop here for now. The next part

901
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:47,000
is is quite long. So what do you think about it?

902
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: So far?

903
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,079
Speaker 3: It's very interesting and I have questions about some of

904
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:57,119
the stuff. But do you still have experiences today with

905
00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:59,280
them or do they have that kind.

906
00:57:59,159 --> 00:58:06,239
Speaker 1: Of stopped Well, yes, I do. I don't have nothing

907
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,519
like that. Now. After after all that.

908
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 2: There, I found out that I can call him craft.

909
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,199
Now I've showed people, so I have witnesses to that.

910
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,280
And my partner now I told her about it.

911
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,159
Speaker 1: They're in the Philippines. That's where I'm staying right now.

912
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:27,599
He told me.

913
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: She says, oh, you're dreaming. So one night after supper,

914
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,719
we got done with supper, probably maybe seven thirty or so.

915
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:40,840
I after supper, she did dishes and stuff, so it's

916
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,840
probably close to like nine o'clock now, So I told

917
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,639
her to come outside with me and I do what

918
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:49,719
I do to call him in.

919
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's nothing, really simple.

920
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:57,719
Speaker 2: And I went out and I sat down in a

921
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,760
chair and she was there, and I did my thing

922
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,840
and no time at all. I mean it only takes seconds.

923
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,679
I mean, it don't take very long. It just takes seconds,

924
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:13,840
and not one but two drafting and you seeing after

925
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:16,519
after she saw him. She kind of shocked me what

926
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:19,760
she said, because nobody ever said anything. Most people just

927
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:23,280
I don't know. It's maybe it's big shock on them.

928
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,360
They don't still don't believe it and stuff like that.

929
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,840
But anyways, he told me, says, oh, your hurt and

930
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,519
your hearts must be close. I mean, it kind of

931
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:34,679
shocked me because I've never had anybody say anything like

932
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:35,119
that to me.

933
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: Now she believes me.

934
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: And I told people, if you don't believe me, if

935
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,639
you want to pay for going on their hip narsiss

936
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,760
or even truth for them, I'll do it and they'll

937
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,159
find out I'm telling the truth.

938
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: Did you ever understand why they chose you?

939
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, let me let me finish up one

940
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,639
other other thing on that.

941
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,519
Speaker 1: You said. It's some now I haven't.

942
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:05,639
Speaker 2: That was the last time when I called them men.

943
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,480
That's the last time I called called any craft. And

944
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:11,760
I just because I just felt that I was doing

945
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:17,599
it for my own game. So I stopped doing it.

946
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:20,719
Well about a year later, I kind of kind of

947
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:23,119
missed it doing it, so I said, I'm going to

948
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:23,920
try something else.

949
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: So I.

950
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,559
Speaker 2: Alls I did is I asked them. But what I

951
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,519
do is all I do is ask him. I said,

952
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:38,280
just show me that you're real, and like the craft

953
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,920
will show right up. And so I said, well, show

954
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,079
me that you yourself are real, in other words, you know,

955
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,280
the alien itself. Well I did that one one day,

956
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,920
and two days later I had one show right up

957
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,400
in our apartment. Now I don't know if that was

958
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related to me saying that for them to show me

959
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,239
proved me that the real or if it was just

960
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,760
someone else, But it looked like a It.

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01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: Looked like a really young alien. To me.

962
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:17,039
Speaker 2: It was only like, well, I don't know here in

963
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:21,320
the Philippines, I don't know if the the striker plate

964
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,559
for the door is at the same height, probably like

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01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:27,000
three and a half feet off the floor.

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:33,079
Speaker 1: Its head was only there a height, but it looked young.

967
01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the skin was real tight on it, and

968
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,320
it just I don't know, just to me, it just

969
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,679
looked like a really young. Alien done done one time.

970
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:49,320
Oh it was Christmas eve, Like I don't remember what

971
01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:53,679
year it was in, maybe four years now. Anyways, here

972
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,079
they play their music extremely loud. I mean you can

973
01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:59,840
hear it a mile away. They play their music so loud.

974
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:04,119
He when it was at New Year's they didn't stop

975
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:07,480
playing it. It was about a quarter after three or so. Well,

976
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I went to bed, yeah, exactly three twenty five, right,

977
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,400
I set the clock and I went to bed. Well,

978
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,639
I was laying on my left side, and I was

979
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:24,760
just laying there that not thinking about anything, just kind

980
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,760
of like trying to clear my mind so.

981
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Speaker 1: I could fall asleep. Close my eyes. Well, it was.

982
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: Ahead of a actually pressure I could see it like

983
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,719
on my eyelids, out my eyes because like what the

984
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,559
heck oot my eyes? Then on the wall, well, we

985
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:49,599
kept a bathroom light onto like a night light, and

986
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:52,199
it let off enough light that I could see my

987
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:57,440
room because it was painted white. And I seen, like

988
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,280
I seen that one, but it was on the wall,

989
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,960
and maybe five or six other ones. There was one

990
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,280
that was a little smaller now the one I the

991
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,639
one I saw like on my inside of my eyes

992
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:12,519
there my eyelids that looked like a male.

993
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was a male.

994
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: Then there was another one, just not right behind it,

995
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,760
but off to its uh, it would be its right

996
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,719
side a little bit. I was looking at it to

997
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:26,719
be left and my left. Anyways, its head was bigger,

998
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,280
but it had a look of a female. Then there

999
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,440
was like four or five other small ones. I know

1000
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:36,880
they were young, like children, And I don't know what

1001
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,239
they was trying to tell me. They ain't say nothing

1002
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,280
or anything, because as long as I kept my eyes open,

1003
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,719
they was there. But it looked like they was crying.

1004
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,880
I don't know if they were trying to tell me

1005
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,440
there was something wrong with them, or if it was

1006
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:56,119
going to be something happening to me. Anyways, I closed

1007
01:03:56,119 --> 01:03:57,760
my eyes and when I closed my eyes, they'd all

1008
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,679
disappeared except for the one.

1009
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:01,639
Speaker 1: Male adult.

1010
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:05,119
Speaker 2: So I started pointing my eyes real fast. It just

1011
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:06,800
would be on the wong.

1012
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:07,199
Speaker 1: My eye like that.

1013
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: So I closed my eyes and I rolled to my

1014
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:09,960
right and they were gone.

1015
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: It was gone.

1016
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: That was a kind of a strange thing. Then here

1017
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,000
are a couple of weeks ago, I was laying in bed.

1018
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,599
At this time, I was in a boat, like on

1019
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:27,000
a river or something like that, and they came and

1020
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:30,599
it was the same ungs that one male and female

1021
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:35,119
and a bunch of young ones. And I don't know

1022
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:37,719
if they're trying to give me a message telling me something,

1023
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,880
or if something's wrong with them.

1024
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well we can pick this back up here again

1025
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,400
soon and we can get this all finished up. But

1026
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,840
I do appreciate you talking with me to here tonight,

1027
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,320
And like I said, once I figure out a time,

1028
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,159
I will let you know.

1029
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:59,039
Speaker 1: Okay, And thank you.

1030
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: Yep, thank you. You have a good night. If you'd

1031
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,840
like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tells, remember to

1032
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,639
send an email to Tenfoil Telles Podcast at gmail dot

1033
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:08,840
com or go to Tinfoil Tales dot com and go

1034
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,119
to the contact section. Make sure to follow me around

1035
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:14,360
on all the social media's and just remember truth comes

1036
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,639
at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price?

1037
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,679
Speaker 4: I've heard a story lay last night about something alert

1038
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:31,920
along a wood line, huge foot prints, strange lights in

1039
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:36,119
the sky. They claim it's nothing, but I know they

1040
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:41,480
light it sees theer last to lap in my face.

1041
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,280
But something about this makes me say, what if it's real?

1042
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,280
What if they knew? What if the answers are coming

1043
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:59,480
from you, spending story, wasting my time, hearing boics? Is

1044
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:03,199
it all in their minds? They can call me crazy,

1045
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,079
but I just want some froom. What if it's true?

1046
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:12,320
What if it's really? What if it's true? What if

1047
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,599
the worlds not what we do?

1048
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: Tim All tales blend me a story.

1049
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:24,719
Speaker 4: That starts where the line is get what if it's real?

1050
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,840
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're waiting

1051
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:33,960
for you. They see if the dog man walking, or

1052
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:38,400
maybe am offman flies? I love the fairy giants hidden

1053
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,400
beneath the lies. They say, it's just stories, It's all

1054
01:06:42,599 --> 01:06:47,199
they believe, the fairy tale sport of things we can't perceive.

1055
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,639
They want to keep us blindly, They want to break

1056
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:54,280
our wheel. But I'm not buying it. I'm not stowing

1057
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,840
another pill forest sped poison. The lines were made.

1058
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: To what if the truth could set us free?

1059
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:09,119
Speaker 4: The aliens suos traveling through time, secret space programs, racing

1060
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,239
their minds. They call them crazy, but I just need

1061
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,840
some fruit. What if it's true? What if it's real?

1062
01:07:18,679 --> 01:07:22,679
What if it's true? What if the worlds not what

1063
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:28,719
we do? Till Ooil tells fulieve me in a story

1064
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,760
that starts where the logic iss What if it's real?

1065
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:38,599
What if it's true? The answers are waiting, They're weighing

1066
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:44,800
for you. They lie, We all can die. The signs

1067
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:45,880
are there if.

1068
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: You open your eyes.

1069
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 4: Aliens cricked its demon's ghost the leveled them too.

1070
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: What if it's me or.

1071
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: What if it's real?

1072
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: What if it's real? What if it's true? What if

1073
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:06,960
the world's not? What way to do? Tenfoil tells fullyeve

1074
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:13,159
me a story that starts wearing the logic? What if

1075
01:08:13,199 --> 01:08:17,800
it's read? What if it's true? The answers are waiting,

1076
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:22,680
They're waiting for you. It's all in our heads, it's

1077
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,600
always our binders. These voices can be silence.

1078
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,079
Speaker 3: The truth must rise.

1079
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 4: Timple tell it's pulling me through. What if it's reading?

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01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:42,039
What if it's true,

