WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.839 By the power of grades goal. I have the power. 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:09.000 Yeah, that's our co host Lori Lee for hof topic 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:13.039 here today. Isn't that great, Big he Man. Yeah, that's 4 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:17.280 the open. That's absolutely the open Big he Man fan, 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:20.120 and that's gonna be That's gonna be evident throughout the 6 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:22.920 next however long we talk about this movie today, this 7 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.480 movie being Masters of the Universe. He manned the twenty 8 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:28.879 twenty sixth edition. Here this is off topic. Bulky's off 9 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.039 gallivanting in Florida somewhere. Larey, thanks for being here. 10 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.759 I wouldn't say I really was a big fan back 11 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.640 in the day. That's just I just think I was 12 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:39.920 a fan of cartoons. Yeah, that was one that I watched. 13 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.920 You did just yell the catchphrase for memory. I just 14 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.280 watched the movie yesterday and I didn't remember what the 15 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:46.159 touchbas was. 16 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:48.520 All right, well, maybe it's all right, we'll get into it. 17 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:52.159 But when I was when I was grilling Ben outside 18 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:54.960 of the movie theater about you know, his opinions, I 19 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.640 just you won't give me anything solid, So I'm really 20 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:58.920 interested to hear what you have to say. 21 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.880 Yeah, well, we'll get into a number of different factors here. 22 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:06.439 Uh not a remake. This was just a total retelling 23 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:08.840 of the story. Have you seen the Dolph Lunggren one? 24 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:09.480 I have not. 25 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:12.319 Yeah, again, not a big enough fan to really do that. 26 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.000 I've heard it's a miserable experience, don't. I don't know 27 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:17.879 that for a fact. I've heard it's awful. 28 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:20.319 You know. I was talking to our coworker John Jordan, 29 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:23.079 and he had mentioned because one of I told him 30 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.239 one of the things I liked was a lot of Eternia, 31 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.400 not a lot of Earth. Yeah, and the action. And 32 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:32.439 he's like, oh, He's like, so it's the complete opposite 33 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:34.159 of the first one. Sound like there was a ton 34 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:34.879 of Earth time. 35 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:40.079 Wow. Interesting, okay? And did the cartoon go to Earth? 36 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.079 And did they not even mess with that? For some reason, 37 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:44.319 they just want to make us feel invested in the character. 38 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:50.239 I think that was more for one. I don't know again, badam. 39 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.159 See well, I told you, you're like, oh, you just 40 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.120 like the nostalgia. It's like I like the nostalga of 41 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:58.359 eighty stuff. Yeah, but I think that, you know, he 42 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.519 was placed on Earth to there was a message in 43 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.280 that movie, just like there was a message in the 44 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:07.719 New Superman. Yeah, you know, yeah, The message in Superman was, 45 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.280 you know, don't be a dick. In The message in 46 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:12.080 he Man was be yourself, be you. 47 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.199 Yeah, who you are. I think there were a lot 48 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.120 of messages, and let's get to that first because that's 49 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:19.520 our first disagreement. So the basic plot of it is 50 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:22.159 without any spoilers. Of course, as per usual, you start 51 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.960 out seeing a young he Man not doing well in 52 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.520 his weapons training. Turns out it doesn't matter. More on 53 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:29.000 that later. 54 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.479 That's the whole message. 55 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:38.800 Bro. He ends up escaping Earth when crap kind of 56 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.439 hits the fan in what is It Hysteria? Yeah, he 57 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.719 ends up going to Earth. He spends fifteen years Eternia. Okay, 58 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.400 he ends up spending fifteen years on Earth before returning 59 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.759 and then coming back to rescue his homeland. There very 60 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.840 stereotypical hero's journey. Nothing wrong with that in the normal perspective. 61 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:01.120 And I will say in terms of positive finding colorful 62 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:04.400 movies in twenty twenty six is really difficult. There's a 63 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.039 lot of like dull colors out there, like even in 64 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.479 Marvel stuff. This was a really bright, vibrant Yeah, it 65 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.719 was a vibrant movie. I will say they definitely tried 66 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.120 to have fun throughout the entire movie, whether or not 67 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:17.919 they succeeded as in the eye of the beholder. 68 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.159 I mean, there was some jokes that fell flat, a 69 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:22.000 lot of where you knew that it was a joke, 70 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.319 and I couldn't even muster like right a pity. 71 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.000 I was right there with you know when I'd say 72 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.360 it was a small theater, but it was an almost 73 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:32.879 completely filled theater, and there weren't there were a lot 74 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:35.960 of miss jokes where the whole audience was sitting in silence. 75 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.520 And that's what I talked to John about it too, 76 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.479 because obviously it didn't do very well initially in the 77 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.840 box office, but that's the most pact we've been on 78 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.000 a cheap Tuesday, absolutely, And I know it's summer and 79 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:45.479 kids around stuff, but there weren't actually a lot of 80 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:46.960 kids in there. That was a lot of people our 81 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.560 age or older. Yeah, so I think people are getting 82 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.800 I think they're hearing that it's actually not bad, like 83 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:54.400 it's just a fun ride. To me, it was a 84 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.240 fun ride for two and a half hour, two hours 85 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:58.400 twenty minutes. Well, it went fast for a two hour, 86 00:03:58.439 --> 00:03:59.159 twenty minute movie. 87 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.199 I disagree, you disagree. I think I think that was 88 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.360 part of what did it for me. Maybe they just 89 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:07.960 did away with the Earth scene entirely, but I actually 90 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:09.039 didn't mind the Earth scene. 91 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:10.800 But I think you got to have the Earth scene 92 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.800 to I agree, I agree, but I thought it was perfect, 93 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.839 like they spent minimal time on Earth in my opinion. Yeah, 94 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.160 it was an action packed man. 95 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:22.959 I will tell you. There is a scene when he 96 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:27.560 Man goes for the first encounter with Skeletor played by 97 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:29.439 Darret Leto, who's probably the best part of. 98 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.199 The movie, super animated. 99 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:35.399 Yeah, I thought that was the final scene. And then 100 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.199 when I was like, oh, that was the end of 101 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.040 the second act. Oh, man, this is a long movie. 102 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:43.839 Well, because they're in the message there was a message there. Yeah, 103 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.079 you know, they had to. I thought they did do 104 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.240 a job with a message without beating you about the 105 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.240 heads and shoulders about it, much like Superman did. That 106 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:52.639 was a fun message. 107 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.759 Well, and I enjoyed you and I went One of 108 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.879 the first films we actually went to go see together 109 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.279 was Thunderbolts, and we both liked it very similar to 110 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:02.720 he Man. Not necessarily well attended like that kind of 111 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.160 caught on after the fact, but in the moment people 112 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:07.240 were like, I don't care about this cast of characters. 113 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.600 It was a well done movie. There's a line early 114 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:11.680 on in the Earth scene when he's like, just live 115 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.639 like everybody else, live for the weekends, right, and do 116 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.279 these things your bills, and it reminded me of Thunderbolts. 117 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:19.439 I'm like, oh, this is probably hitting close to home 118 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.439 with a lot of people right now. I was like, 119 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.839 this might be interesting. And they never visited that theme again, 120 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.959 and it was like, but they did, did they? 121 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.639 Because that was the whole Like he was just like comply, like, 122 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.439 just be like everyone else and be happy for your 123 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:39.279 saturdays and pay your bills and be a functioning person 124 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:44.480 in society. And but then at the end he finds 125 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:48.439 out who he truly is and that's not that okay, 126 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:50.439 you know, it's not like he I mean there again, 127 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:52.920 this is hard sometimes without spoilers, but there's a part 128 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:57.399 in the movie where it's kind of like revisited towards 129 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:01.079 the ends with his Earth stuff. Oh sure, and again 130 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.959 that is kind of getting past all of those barriers 131 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.000 and just being a normal, boring, proper human. 132 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.800 I get that, okay, I will say, and the Bulky 133 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:12.680 and I both have a role in this podcast where 134 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:14.639 you're not allowed to be mad when a movie is 135 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.120 something that isn't something that you wanted it to be. 136 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:19.399 Like when you're like, oh, I thought I wish it 137 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.519 were this instead, that doesn't count. You have to But 138 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.240 I will say when they revisited that at the end 139 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.000 of the movie and they make you think like, wait, 140 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.560 is any of this really happening, I was like, Oh, 141 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.720 this should have been the whole movie. Like I was 142 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.680 sitting there, I was like, I would have really liked 143 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:34.680 this movie where it turns out he wasn't he man 144 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:39.720 at all. He was trying to escape from a Monday resistence. 145 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.519 But the post the post credit scene is him in 146 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:45.839 a rubber room because made this all. 147 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.839 Up with the HR woman just still being like, we 148 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:52.040 need you to come back to reality for us if 149 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.879 you're gonna do these TPS report It's like that would 150 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:56.600 have been a movie where I'm like, oh, this is 151 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:57.639 this is a good movie. 152 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:59.839 Yeah. I thought they did a good job with what 153 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.279 his job was on Earth. It was so just generic 154 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.040 as far as okay, this is what humans do. They 155 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:08.680 go to work and they work in nine to five 156 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.279 and HR harasses them. Were silly, you know, it's like 157 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:16.040 it was very it was it was not specific, but 158 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.120 I think it really still touched a lot of people, like, 159 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.160 oh god, that's my life going to work and being 160 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:21.319 harassed by hr. 161 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:23.079 I bet I'm telling you the right thing. 162 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:23.680 You were. 163 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.920 You were begrudging the Earth scene between that stuff and 164 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.680 him training with the weapons, and they're like, you know, 165 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.399 there's different kinds of masculinity. Which I've always appreciated that message, 166 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:36.000 because like I always liked like Jack Sparrow, I liked 167 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.360 the action heroes who weren't big buff guys, who were 168 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:43.920 more like witty and charming obviously, so. 169 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.199 You pasted your life off of exactly. 170 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.600 And so when I saw that, I was like, oh fun. 171 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.319 And then they threw all that out the window and 172 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:54.319 they're like, actually, the muscles are very important to manhood. 173 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.399 And uh and if it weren't for the muscles, you 174 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.879 kind of would have been useless this entire movie. 175 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.079 How can I talk about this without this is tough? 176 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.000 I know, I know it's a skill. 177 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.240 Not pointlant, because I have to disagree with you there. 178 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:13.160 I think that who he is underneath the he man 179 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.959 exterior is what he had to he had to find. 180 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.240 I mean he man is I don't want to see 181 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.560 begrudgingly he man. But once he finds out he has powers, 182 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:23.000 he doesn't. 183 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.519 Well, he still does the hr shit even when he's 184 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:28.800 he man, which I enjoyed. He's like, we're gonna have 185 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.920 a team building exercise, and like, I enjoyed that element 186 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:32.240 of it. 187 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:36.600 But yeah, he he doesn't. I don't think he feels 188 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:38.200 the need to be he man when he's he man, 189 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.159 he still tries to be Adam. He still tries to 190 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.559 be Adam even when he has the muscle. So I 191 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.159 have to disagree. It's like it's an eighties cartoon. Of 192 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.600 course it's mascul like, of course he's gonna have the 193 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.039 big ripley muscles and the little loinclow. 194 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.320 Like, oh yeah, the outfit was on point. But I'm 195 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.120 saying if he couldn't stop a helicopter propeller with his 196 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:00.720 bare hands, he kind of was not relevant point of 197 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:01.799 the plot. 198 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.159 Well, you can't think your way out of that, you know, 199 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.360 the ten seconds that you'd have to figure out how 200 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:10.159 to stop it. I mean, do you have you done 201 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.759 any Marvel movies and then talk about all the masculinity 202 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:14.399 in there? 203 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:19.960 No? But but like for every Captain America, like Tony Stark. 204 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:22.360 You're not sitting there being like, oh, look at how 205 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:24.919 put together he is. Like he's there like building his 206 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.399 way out of scenarios, and there's like there's there's different 207 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.080 characters like that. And I think a major crux of 208 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.000 this and I'm interested in your thoughts. I don't know 209 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:36.000 if I'm going to say this right, Nicholas gallat Zine 210 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:37.000 gallant Zion. 211 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.159 I brought notes because I'm not quite sure either. 212 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.639 Yeah, I'm looking at his movies. The idea of you 213 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:46.519 red white and royal blue, purple, hearts unknown. I've never 214 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:47.879 heard of any of this, and I watch a lot 215 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.320 of movies. I've never heard of any of this. I'm 216 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.480 all for giving new actors a shot in Hollywood. I 217 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:55.759 think that's a necessary step to like getting the new 218 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:59.320 people out there. Wasn't particularly impressed with him. He got 219 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.720 the great muscle, he looked the part absolutely in terms 220 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.600 of like charisma and like and I'll be real, I 221 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.080 think that was my problem here. And as I accidentally 222 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:11.480 exd out Camilla Mendez played Tela, I thought a lot 223 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:14.960 of the leads I was like, eh, eh, in terms 224 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.200 of the performance from them. 225 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.840 I'll agree with you. With Nicholas, I thought kind of 226 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:23.279 the same thing. I mean, he's got a deadpan kind 227 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:27.080 of approach, which worked at times with his regular Earth persona, 228 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:30.759 I suppose, But yeah, you think that someone like once 229 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:34.200 you transform into he Man, Yeah, have a little and 230 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:38.000 I think towards the end he does like it comes 231 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:42.000 out obviously as he becomes more comfortable with becoming he Man. 232 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.600 But as an overall actor, I would agree that I 233 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:46.200 he looked the part. 234 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.399 He looked absolutely but absolutely. 235 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.200 Like you said, when we get to Jared Leto like, 236 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:57.080 he really stole the show. He made Skeletor just like, 237 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:01.200 I'm so glad how much time Skeletor had on the screen. 238 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.480 And I'd even argue I was gonna say it was 239 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:06.360 a matter of leaving the audience wanting more, because I 240 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.600 was like, oh, I would have liked to see more 241 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:12.240 of that, because again he was the most captivating and 242 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.120 I liked watching his little skeleton mouth move and I 243 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:17.440 was trying to sync it up with the other words 244 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:18.039 he was saying. 245 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.200 And without no spoilers here, but we'll let if you 246 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.600 go see it, there are actually three. 247 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:25.679 Yeah, we missed one. 248 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.159 We missed a post credit scene, yeah, which I sent 249 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.799 to you A yeah I did, so you know, who 250 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:36.600 knows what's gonna hap. It leaves it open for another 251 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.080 Masters of the Universe movie now because it did so 252 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.159 poorly in the theaters. Is z that could happen. I 253 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.799 hope they'll take another chance. But yeah, there's there's definitely 254 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:48.679 a storyline there. 255 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:52.279 Oh yeah, And I mean this is it's so common 256 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.480 that this stuff happens. Like the greatest example of this 257 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:55.960 for me, and I didn't see it in theaters. I 258 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.200 don't know if you're familiar with the movie John Carter. 259 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.279 It was a Disney movie where like a guy fights 260 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.440 Aliens on Mars, and I didn't go see it in theaters. 261 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.559 It was one hundred and fifty million dollar movie and 262 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:10.559 it was just on TNT one time, and I watched 263 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:12.679 it and I sat through the entire thing with commercials, 264 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:15.879 and I was like, this is the greatest action movie 265 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:17.799 I've ever seen. And then I'm there googling it and 266 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:19.320 I'm like, will we get a sequel? It was like, 267 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.799 of course not, dude. None of you came, so we're 268 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:25.679 not doing this. And I have a feeling this might 269 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:27.960 end up meeting the same fate. But whether or not 270 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.120 word of mouth kind of saves it. We'll see. And 271 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:34.840 again I am in the minority, I think technically as 272 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.840 far as people that were like, oh, I guess I 273 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:38.639 wanted that to be a little more fun. I think 274 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:41.519 seventy four percent of people in Rotten Tomatoes were like, 275 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:43.399 oh no, that was that was a solid romp. 276 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.159 Yeah, it was just fun. It's hot. I say, let's 277 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.399 go into a theater for two hours and cool off. 278 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.159 And what that tree and a half closer to three 279 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:53.840 County trailers? 280 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.799 I thought the action was there for Masters Universe. I was. 281 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.480 I walked out happy. 282 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.879 Yeah what I saw, I think. See, but you're a 283 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.759 you're a Marvel person in Balky and I have a 284 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:06.960 catchphrase it always comes back to Marvel, and it's going 285 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.200 to come back to Marvel here as well. I feel 286 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.879 like they've spoiled me a little bit because it's harder 287 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.720 for me to get as into the CGI action when 288 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.279 I'm not like, oh, this is that character from seven 289 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.519 movies ago that was doing things like for me to 290 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:23.720 kind of reinvest in this, it has to really captivate me. 291 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.000 And there's a lot of CGI, Like I even asked 292 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:27.720 you as we were walking out, like, so we're all 293 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.600 those things like bad guys from the cartoon or are 294 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.799 we supposed to know what those were? Because I didn't. 295 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.679 I saw like a brown furry thing and a red 296 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.159 faced devil. There was no I didn't ascribe anything to 297 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.039 those people outside of like, oh look at the colors 298 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.000 on that and like Marvel has almost spoiled me to 299 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.039 the point where it's like, yeah, I expect X y 300 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.519 Z to happen, you know, Yeah, now we're. 301 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.840 Talking about the use of the CGI or the actual 302 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:53.960 CGI itself. 303 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.600 The CGI. It's so I'm not anti CGI as long 304 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:58.200 like Fanos is phenomenal. 305 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.320 It has kind of capped out, you know, oh totally. 306 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:05.360 There was some There was some times during Masters of 307 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.879 the Universe where I'm definitely just I'm enjoying myself. But 308 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:10.720 then there's a few times where the CG I tried 309 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:14.200 too hard and it's like, uh, like there was one 310 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.039 part where I mean just it's part of the cartoon. 311 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:21.480 Battle Cat's there, and just yeah, doing the joining up 312 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.559 with battle Cat and going into into battle. It was 313 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.879 a little like, Okay, I feel like maybe at some 314 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.559 point they're like, we're spending too much money guys. 315 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.440 Yeah, just get a green stream, cut it. 316 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:35.240 Down to that CG down. So it is hard sometimes 317 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.039 to fully escape when you know. 318 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.000 And I liked a baby battle Cat more than a 319 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.000 full grown battle Cat. I wish you would have stayed 320 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.679 as a baby for the scene. I liked the baby version. 321 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:47.559 I will say, I think it was the same thing 322 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:51.960 about battle Cat as just regular cat versus when he's 323 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.080 in battle. I mean he was also it's funny. Battle 324 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:56.480 Cat was also a bit of comic relief. 325 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.919 Agreed too. I'd say when the humor was hitting at 326 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:05.639 its best is when it was parodying eighties action, like 327 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:07.639 when they were walking in the smoke and they all 328 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.200 start choking, or the belly laugh scene that actually killed me. 329 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:11.799 I loved that. 330 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:13.759 Yeah, it was like a joke in itself. 331 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.159 Yes, and they actually it was like a family guy 332 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.759 joke because they would drag it out like almost too long, 333 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.519 but it was the exact right length to drag it out, 334 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.440 and I was like, oh, where was this level of 335 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.440 humor for the entire movie? That would have also helped 336 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:27.960 it quite well. 337 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:29.600 I think that would have pushed to three hours, and 338 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:35.360 then you really would have been really upset about. 339 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:36.519 You eliminate the boring dialogue and you put the funny 340 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:36.960 shit in. 341 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:38.919 There, which I have to say there and I cannot 342 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:40.600 think of the scene right now. There's really only one 343 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.120 scene where I was like, let's go. I mean, besides that, 344 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.519 I thought it wanted a good clip. Okay, I know 345 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:47.000 you said it dragg John for you, but there was 346 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:48.759 only one instance where I. 347 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:51.639 Was like, you, also, you got some RBF when you're 348 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:54.279 watching movies. I would have guessed, just based on your 349 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.600 demeanor during the movie. I'm like, oh, she hates this movie. 350 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:02.919 No, I just have rest. I just have it's the 351 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.039 worst and no girl wants to hear. Hey, you'd be 352 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.279 pretty er if he smiled, And I've had that so 353 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:08.120 many times. 354 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:10.879 I the movie wasn't funny, so there was no reason 355 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:11.200 to smile. 356 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:13.159 I think, honestly, if I had, if you looked over 357 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:14.919 at any time and I had a stone face, I 358 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.960 might have been thinking, Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day. 359 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.080 If it was some sort like there's a part where 360 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.840 obviously the King and Queen in there, that's Adam's mom 361 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.519 and dad, and there's some you know scenes where it's 362 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:28.799 like get a little choky up as far as just 363 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:38.600 the the story and the message. What it's a okay, fine, 364 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:43.159 but it's not spoilers. But you said, you see young 365 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.759 Adam in the beginning, he's a tiny guy. Yeah, he's 366 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.039 just kind of dicking around with the swords and stuff, 367 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:54.679 not really taking it seriously. And his dad so like yeah, basically, 368 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:56.799 and then later in the movie when it becomes he man, 369 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.960 they have another dialogue and I mean, it's it's touch. 370 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:02.480 Do you know what he wanted his dad to hear 371 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:02.919 him say? 372 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.640 Was it just the catchphrase that I don't I meant 373 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:07.359 to ask you that. 374 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.839 Yeah, I had no idea what I was like, Wait, 375 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:11.279 what do you want to say? 376 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.359 Yeah, that doesn't say maybe he wanted it, because yeah, 377 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.079 I'm not quite sure. Okay, that's the only thing I 378 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:18.480 thought of. 379 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.440 Was And for the record, plot holes in a fun 380 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:23.920 action movie. I don't care, Like, I'm not a snob 381 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.680 by any stretch of the imagination. That doesn't bother me. 382 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.759 Was that a scene that there was another scene that 383 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:30.119 got cut that would have explained that? 384 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:34.839 Oh yeah, but I mean, as is true with a 385 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:36.960 lot of these movies, heroes, still the scene, I mean, 386 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:38.799 I'm a big Alison Bree person. I don't know if 387 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:40.640 you were in the Community at all when it was on, 388 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.319 but her character in that I always found hilarious. So 389 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:47.319 since she was in Community, her playing Evil Limb, she 390 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.680 I think she played that exactly how you're supposed to 391 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:50.359 play that role. 392 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.720 I mean really still was right away. But yeah, that's 393 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:55.160 really a branch out for she was like the one 394 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.039 of the daughters on mad Men was Madman as well, 395 00:17:58.119 --> 00:17:59.480 and that was a while. I was like, oh my god, 396 00:17:59.480 --> 00:17:59.960 she's grown. 397 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.920 Yeah. Yeah, that was a part of nineteen in Community 398 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.640 and she plays like an adderall addicted straight a student, 399 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.279 So this was a big jump for. 400 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.880 Yeah as well. Yeah know I was reading she enjoyed 401 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.000