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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. I am
Speaker 2: very excited today because today my guest is the Internet's boyfriend.
Speaker 2: He is a six foot six inch Avian Award winning
Speaker 2: Australian performer who's notorious for the wine bottle in his pants.
Speaker 2: Welcome the one and only girth Master.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: You're so welcome. So his name is also Ben, which
Speaker 2: I'm going to Can I call you Ben?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, right, I don't. You don't want me to call
Speaker 2: you girth Master the entire time?
Speaker 3: Right, you can call me whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Ben, let's start at the beginning. How did
Speaker 2: you get started in the adult industry.
Speaker 3: So I've always been like a bit of an online exhibitionist,
Speaker 3: like posting pictures of my dick for attention on the
Speaker 3: internet all over the place, and like I mean, since
Speaker 3: I was a teenager on Tumbler, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I was, I post dick tis there they'd go a
Speaker 3: little viral. So I just like love the attention.
Speaker 2: So we actually, let's go back a little bit. When
Speaker 2: did you realize that you had a large penis?
Speaker 3: In high school? In the showers at school camp, Okay,
Speaker 3: I mean a few of the boys were in there.
Speaker 3: They saw my dick and like it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: semi hard at the time, uh huh, And they ran
Speaker 3: out screamed to everyone like get in here. Like half
Speaker 3: the grade was in the shower was looking at my dick. Really,
Speaker 3: I was like mured around the school for it.
Speaker 2: How did that feel?
Speaker 3: It was weird because also like I didn't know how
Speaker 3: big it was relative to other dicks because I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen any, right, So I thought that, you know, there's
Speaker 3: a guy in the grade above me. His nickname was Racehorse,
Speaker 3: and like, surely he's bigger than mine. It's like three
Speaker 3: coke cans something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I'm watching porn and there's Danny D. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, Danny D's got to be bigger than me, surely.
Speaker 3: So I didn't know how crazy big it was until
Speaker 3: I was about a year into my career and I
Speaker 3: shut with Joanna Angel and she told me it was
Speaker 3: the biggest shed scene. And that's when it really sunk
Speaker 3: in that like babe, I am girth pasta because it
Speaker 3: was just like a tongue in cheek joke of a name.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so literally, up until that moment in the showers,
Speaker 2: you you didn't know you thought like everyone's penis was
Speaker 2: that size.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew it was like above average because like
Speaker 3: you chatted to the boys and it's like, oh, mine's
Speaker 3: this big. You know mine fits you know, doesn't fit
Speaker 3: in a toilet paper roll, those kind of things, the
Speaker 3: classic toilet paper roll comparison.
Speaker 2: I don't know this.
Speaker 3: It's like guys to measure their dicks, like does it
Speaker 3: put it in a toilet paper roll to see like
Speaker 3: that's like a girth test, and like that doesn't fit
Speaker 3: over like half my tip. So I was like, I know,
Speaker 3: I'm like above average. I don't know how exceptional it was.
Speaker 2: Wow, is this the moment? Okay, so big reveal. Guys,
Speaker 2: I have never seen his penis. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what it looks like. I who work in the adult industry,
Speaker 2: I have no clue because I stopped directing like two
Speaker 2: years ago, so I just don't look at porn anymore.
Speaker 2: And so I've never had the fortune of working with
Speaker 2: this gentleman, and so I've never seen it. So he's
Speaker 2: going to show it to me right now, and I'm
Speaker 2: very excited.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna bitch you here, ready to go.
Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: The live reaction to first live reaction to.
Speaker 2: The first seeing it, get the fuck out of here?
Speaker 2: Is that Is that a miniature wine bottle?
Speaker 3: That's a full size wine bottle?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I mean the camera angles are doing be favorus
Speaker 3: in that shoot in that photo, but it's.
Speaker 2: No, this is photoshoped.
Speaker 3: No, that's real.
Speaker 2: I need to see it.
Speaker 3: It's right now. I used to be so embarrassed of
Speaker 3: like my soft size.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, sorry, Wow, that is very girthy. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: How do girls get that in their mouth?
Speaker 3: They don't. I mean they try the furthest anyone's gotten
Speaker 3: was like a little over halfway. And it's so cute
Speaker 3: when girls are like, oh, I have no gag reflex,
Speaker 3: I can do it. They're not getting past your teeth,
Speaker 3: Like the gag reflex doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: So do they just like nibble on it like a
Speaker 2: corn on the cob, Like, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't have fun with it, Like it's a novelty sized dick,
Speaker 3: like just you know, have fun, put both hands on it,
Speaker 3: try to deep thread it if you want.
Speaker 2: It's a part of you like sad that you've never
Speaker 2: had like a real blood.
Speaker 3: Not at all. I mean it'd be cool one time
Speaker 3: to get deep threated, I guess, But if the trade
Speaker 3: off is not having a giant dick that lets me
Speaker 3: live this kind of life, then I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna get back to like how you got
Speaker 2: started and everything. But are there any downfalls to having
Speaker 2: such a large penis? Like, are there times that you
Speaker 2: wish that you had like an average sized dick?
Speaker 3: I mean, if I want to get deep throated. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Otherwise there's no downside none. I mean there's been a
Speaker 3: couple of times well like it'll be too big for
Speaker 3: a girl to take regularly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Really, you know, I've been in like long term relationships
Speaker 3: and it's been fine.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do they have to like get acclimated to it.
Speaker 3: They're like an adjustment period for show. Okay, and if
Speaker 3: you don't have sex for like a few weeks, it
Speaker 3: goes back to you know, yeah day one again, got
Speaker 3: to readjust that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, girls have often said that they actually prefer girth
Speaker 2: to length because length, like if it's not that it's
Speaker 2: not long, because it is also that. But like if
Speaker 2: something's just like really long, it and like not necessarily girthy,
Speaker 2: it just like kind of post your cervix and can
Speaker 2: be painful, but like the girth is kind of preferable
Speaker 2: over that. So do you find that girls seem to
Speaker 2: prefer yours because of the girth versus like just the length.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I've heard that a lot. Like chicks love girth,
Speaker 3: yeah a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, like you said, this is the long
Speaker 3: pointy ones to stab the savix. Yeah, I'm glad mine
Speaker 3: isn't any longer than it is. Yeah, because as it is,
Speaker 3: I can usually get it all the way in. By
Speaker 3: the time that warmed up, I can get my entire
Speaker 3: dicka and just yeah, if it was any longer to
Speaker 3: be uncomfortable, I.
Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, how long is it?
Speaker 3: It's eight inches long?
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's like.
Speaker 3: Right at the upper level of like what people can accomodate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not like a crazy like twelve inches.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, there are some dicks that I've seen on some
Speaker 2: guys that I'm just like that.
Speaker 3: I mean you would have seen dreads, right, yeah, Jesus, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that is a thud like and he's a big guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and his dick looks huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's one other guy that I saw. I can't
Speaker 2: remember his name, but he was on blacked and it
Speaker 2: was just a picture of him like standing and his
Speaker 2: dick was like to his knee and.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think he was also a shorter guy. But
Speaker 2: I was like, now, like that can be real. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how do you live life like that?
Speaker 3: Insane? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's I like mine a lot.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun, soft, pretty good.
Speaker 2: No no regrets, No, you're you're absolutely fine with the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, feel blessed. Not really any downsides. I can't wear
Speaker 3: gray sweatpants around family otherwise, but other than that, it's good.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll go back to how you got started
Speaker 2: in the industry. So you've realized you have a large penis,
Speaker 2: You've been blessed with this gift, and you're maybe coming
Speaker 2: to the realization that you should do something with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I was just posting pictures of myself
Speaker 3: online and then a friend of mine was, you know,
Speaker 3: cheated only fans, and I told her that I had
Speaker 3: this Twitter page with like, I don't know, thirty or
Speaker 3: forty thousand followers. I'd started during like COVID lockdown. I
Speaker 3: just so I had to quarantine in a hotel for
Speaker 3: two weeks, had a camera phone, nothing else to do,
Speaker 3: started a Twitter page, started posting dick pics like just
Speaker 3: for funic joker videos, whatever. And then I told a
Speaker 3: friend of mine about it, and she's like, I do
Speaker 3: only fans. I make forty thousand dollars a month, Like
Speaker 3: you can. Why are you giving away for free? You
Speaker 3: can make money doing it. Yeah, So I started it
Speaker 3: just expecting it to be like a little bit of
Speaker 3: beer money, maybe help me out with the rent every
Speaker 3: now and then. And it took off pretty quickly to
Speaker 3: like making more than my day job. And yeah, like
Speaker 3: after a year, I quit my day job and just
Speaker 3: went full time in porn.
Speaker 2: Why did it take you a year? If it like,
Speaker 2: how quickly did it take off? Was it the situation
Speaker 2: where you're like, I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: go full time into porn?
Speaker 3: Like I think it was about three months in I
Speaker 3: was making the same as my day job and then
Speaker 3: a year in when I quit my day job, I
Speaker 3: went to see an account and got myself properly set
Speaker 3: up and new taxes had to pay and everything realized
Speaker 3: I was making four times my salary and I really
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that I was not taking too
Speaker 3: big of a risk, like quit my day job, do
Speaker 3: porn and that fails, and like you know what happens then, right,
Speaker 3: So I stuck at that for a year. The people
Speaker 3: I worked with in nice and like, there was a
Speaker 3: lady I worked with who hadn't been to see her
Speaker 3: family for like three years because of COVID. She couldn't
Speaker 3: leave Australia, and she had holidays booked for like two
Speaker 3: months in like I was December January something like that,
Speaker 3: and I was the personally could do her job. So
Speaker 3: I stuck it out until she went saw her family,
Speaker 3: and then as soon as she got back, I had
Speaker 3: my notice in already. I was like, good to see
Speaker 3: you again, goodbye and yeah, and then I just spent
Speaker 3: full time in Portland.
Speaker 2: Did the people that you were working with a your
Speaker 2: day job, did they know what you were doing? I'm sorry?
Speaker 3: And it was really funny because every other day they'd
Speaker 3: say like they'd say something like, oh, I hate this job,
Speaker 3: I'm going to quit new only fans. I'm sitting there
Speaker 3: doing well and only fans like you have no idea
Speaker 3: how hard it is. I'm gonna let her quit my
Speaker 3: self fit picks good luck.
Speaker 2: So were you showing your face at the time.
Speaker 3: No, I had my face hidden until I quit my
Speaker 3: day job.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's that makes it.
Speaker 3: It was part of the reason I hit my face
Speaker 3: was I had my day job. My family didn't know
Speaker 3: at that stage, you know, a whole lot of things.
Speaker 3: And then I just worked on taking care of those things,
Speaker 3: like sorting that so I could start showing my face
Speaker 3: if I wanted to. And then, yeah, I hit a
Speaker 3: point my career where it's going well. I just I
Speaker 3: wanted to show my face. I was looking for a
Speaker 3: reason to do it. So, yeah, I'm glad I did.
Speaker 2: Did you talk to your family about it first before
Speaker 2: you did that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that was like one of the things I
Speaker 3: wanted to do, Like I wanted to be the one
Speaker 3: to tell them. Yeah, mom knew I had a job
Speaker 3: in the adult industry online because I'd let her know.
Speaker 3: I'd I owed Mom like ten thousand dollars, I think,
Speaker 3: and as I started making OnlyFans money, I was a
Speaker 3: couple months there and I sent her like ten thousand
Speaker 3: dollars and I was like, hey, my good news, bad
Speaker 3: news just paid you the ten grand. Here's how I
Speaker 3: made it. I told her I had an online adult job,
Speaker 3: but she didn't know what it was, so she was
Speaker 3: a little like scared. She'd call me up and say
Speaker 3: things like, oh, I just watched a documentary about sex
Speaker 3: stortion where people get people's nudes and you know, blackmail them.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, mom, I'm not doing that. Oh thank god.
Speaker 3: So once I finally told her, she was relieved.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I told my sisters and they were really good about it.
Speaker 3: You know, their questions are just like, how are you
Speaker 3: staying safe, how much money you're making, is it viable
Speaker 3: to quit your job? Stuff like that. Yeah, just you know,
Speaker 3: cautious family member things. But I'm glad I waited until
Speaker 3: I was successful to tell them. Yeah, it's the kind
Speaker 3: of thing that you're trying to talk someone out of.
Speaker 2: Doing, right of course, And yeah it's great to like
Speaker 2: prove that this is a viable career. I can't make money,
Speaker 2: I can do well rather than like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give this a shot, because you know, the thing is
Speaker 2: is that once you go there and you show your
Speaker 2: face and the stigma's there, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't get it, you can'tundo it. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 3: you can lose your job and anything for it.
Speaker 2: So absolutely, so you were willing to show your face
Speaker 2: because you felt pretty confident that this was something that
Speaker 2: you could continue to do and you didn't feel like
Speaker 2: you had to go back to any kind of day job.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I'd quit my day job and I
Speaker 3: was making like four times my salary at the time,
Speaker 3: and then I started working with some like really big names,
Speaker 3: and you know, the money went up even more. And
Speaker 3: at that point, I was just really confident that I
Speaker 3: could quit my day job, and not showing my face
Speaker 3: was holding me back from marketing myself a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't really use TikTok or Instagram if I'm not
Speaker 3: showing my face.
Speaker 2: It's a little way, right.
Speaker 3: So, and also it just kind of felt like the
Speaker 3: women I work with the showing their faces, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm not showing mine. It just felt a little like
Speaker 3: I'm getting all the benefits without being a part of
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, and I like that feeling of like
Speaker 3: the camaraderie and like, you know, I used to be
Speaker 3: in the union, like carrying the bena, being on the
Speaker 3: posts and stuff, and I love that feeling of like,
Speaker 3: you know, rolling it together, like sharing, like taking the
Speaker 3: blows together. So I kind of didn't want to just
Speaker 3: be taking the cream off the top. So I felt
Speaker 3: good to get involved as well.
Speaker 2: I love that. And there's something you know, the adult
Speaker 2: industry is very much like a small community and like
Speaker 2: a family, and I think people don't really see it
Speaker 2: until they get into it. And I think part of
Speaker 2: that is because it is sort of there is a
Speaker 2: little bit of that us against them mentality, right because
Speaker 2: of the stigma, because of the blows that are dealt
Speaker 2: against us, like you mentioned, And so I appreciate that
Speaker 2: you felt like I want to be in there, like
Speaker 2: in the trenches with everybody else, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to benefit from this, I want to also,
Speaker 2: like you know, to put the skin in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Literally, you also have a lovely face,
Speaker 2: Like why wouldn't you want to show it?
Speaker 3: People kept saying that to me. They're like, they show up,
Speaker 3: shoot with me. I hadn't seen me before, and they're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 3: you're actually cute. I'm like, oh, thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know right, because that's the fear, right that
Speaker 2: you're just like really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Frankenstein's monster in the face.
Speaker 2: So your career really started when a man on the
Speaker 2: street interview about how much money you made went viral.
Speaker 2: Where were you when the interview happened and how did
Speaker 2: that go down?
Speaker 3: So I was in Brisbane in Australia and it was
Speaker 3: this I'd seen them on TikTok before, this company called
Speaker 3: get Ahead, like a job finding app, and I knew
Speaker 3: what they'd asked and the questions are what do you
Speaker 3: do and how much money do you make? And I
Speaker 3: was walking down the street like running errands that day
Speaker 3: and I saw them and I was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm doing social media a bit now, but I like
Speaker 3: passed them by and like I don't want to bother them.
Speaker 3: That's kind of cringe to like go up to them
Speaker 3: and say something, and that they were interviewing someone kept
Speaker 3: running errand a few minutes later, I'm welcome past them again.
Speaker 3: They had no one and I just walked up to
Speaker 3: them like, hey, I have a pretty cool job if
Speaker 3: you want to ask me about it, No screening questions, stuffing.
Speaker 3: They're like, yep, all right, camera's rolling, let's do it.
Speaker 3: And first I dodged the question about how much money
Speaker 3: do you make? If you watch the interview, they cliped
Speaker 3: that together from a bit at the end. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm glad I did it because that went insanely viral.
Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, it just blew me up. Was at
Speaker 3: that moment in my career was the most money I'd
Speaker 3: made in like a week. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, so how much was it?
Speaker 3: So I said in the interview, I'm making forty to
Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars a week. Month. Yeah, month, month, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: Thought you were going to say a week and I
Speaker 2: was going to impress, but it's a month. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 3: Change jump change.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But it's gone up since then as well a lot.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm sure I've had a couple of
Speaker 3: viral moments since then, but yeah, No, it was an
Speaker 3: insane period of time in my life because all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, like Cardi b retweeted it, but Rolling Stone
Speaker 3: reached out to interview me along with Daily Beast and
Speaker 3: all the major Australian newspapers reached out. I ended up
Speaker 3: getting like a centerfold spread in the Australian Newspaper, which
Speaker 3: is like a pretty big newspaper and funnily enough, it's
Speaker 3: like a conservative newspaper. And they ran like a four
Speaker 3: page story on the girth Master pictures of me and everything.
Speaker 2: Wow, how did that feel?
Speaker 3: Totally surreal, like all of a sudden, like I was
Speaker 3: the topic of Twitter for three days. Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: the most googled person at the time. I think if
Speaker 3: you clicked the Google search bar, girth Master popped up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like without typing anything. And it just it was totally surreal.
Speaker 3: And all the conversation around me was you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 3: But I'm searching myself on Twitter and reading every word
Speaker 3: written about me, and.
Speaker 2: It's was there some stuff in there that was hard
Speaker 2: to read, like.
Speaker 3: Not really know. Everyone was really nice to me, Like
Speaker 3: there were a couple like, of course there's a few critics.
Speaker 3: You know, people are saying things like if you look
Speaker 3: at like the Rolling Stone Articles comments section, it's you know,
Speaker 3: you choose guy to be the face of sex work
Speaker 3: and blah blah, blah, which are valid criticisms, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I do have it much easier
Speaker 3: than a lot of the women in terms of like
Speaker 3: the level of scrutiny that I face and the comparison.
Speaker 3: I You're the reason I was comfortable saying how much
Speaker 3: money I made was because Kazumi did it and I
Speaker 3: saw it go viral for her. I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: Kazumi did it. It was good for her. I'll do the
Speaker 3: same thing. If you compare the feedback in the comment
Speaker 3: sections from Kazumi doing it to me doing it, it's
Speaker 3: night and day. I'm getting all this praise and like
Speaker 3: living every guy's dream. She was getting like constant hate
Speaker 3: for talking about much money she makes. Yeah, there is
Speaker 3: a definite double standard there, I think, Yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: reading those comments, I guess not hard to read because
Speaker 3: like I understand that it's frustrating and it's a valid
Speaker 3: criticism to make, so like, yeah, I understand, but hopefully
Speaker 3: the way that I try to do it, And like,
Speaker 3: but I spoke to CONSUMEI about exactly that. I'm like
Speaker 3: crazy to see how much hate you got and I'm
Speaker 3: getting praise, And she was like, well, it's good to
Speaker 3: see somebody getting the praise and like hopefully that helps
Speaker 3: to normalize that kind of thing, you know, like maybe
Speaker 3: next time they'll see that I did it, they're not
Speaker 3: going to hate women for doing it. Yeah, if someone's
Speaker 3: going to someone has to get I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know what I'm trying to say here, but like.
Speaker 2: No, I totally understand. I Mean, the thing is is that,
Speaker 2: like it takes people like Kazumi who's willing to go
Speaker 2: out there and put themselves out there and take the
Speaker 2: criticism to move the needle, you know, like the opinion
Speaker 2: of society doesn't change overy night. Yeah, slowly.
Speaker 3: I've been lucky to get things like the Rolling Stone
Speaker 3: straight newspaper, like brand deals and things like that, and maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, and probably definitely I'm getting these opportunities because
Speaker 3: I'm a straight white man that looks like the guys
Speaker 3: that are making these decisions on what to do. But hopefully,
Speaker 3: if I do a good job at it, I'm just
Speaker 3: going to be the first sex worker and I kind
Speaker 3: of keep the door open for other people to get
Speaker 3: those opportunities. Like next time, if they consider doing it
Speaker 3: with the female, they'll think, oh, you know, we had
Speaker 3: that guy that time and it went well, everything was
Speaker 3: good there, So we'll continue doing deals with sex workers.
Speaker 2: The thing is like, just because is like you know,
Speaker 2: women face like vitriol and face that kind of negative feedback.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that like you don't get to enjoy like
Speaker 2: positive feedback, you know what I mean, Like it's not
Speaker 2: your fault that like society is misogynistic, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you're not a misogynist. It's just like
Speaker 2: the way that it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to tend on opportunities I'm getting
Speaker 3: beause it's good for my career. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: it would help anybody else's career if I turn down
Speaker 3: these opportunities.
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody faults you for it.
Speaker 3: As the you know, half dozen people on Twitter that
Speaker 3: I find when I such my name, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there's always going to be there's
Speaker 2: always going to be angry people out there, And of
Speaker 2: course those are the comments that we remember, right, and
Speaker 2: that's the stuff that we internalize. The you know, you
Speaker 2: get one hundred positive comments and you get one negative one,
Speaker 2: and it's the negative one that we focus on. It's
Speaker 2: human nature, and that's why I never read the comments,
Speaker 2: so you can say whatever you want about me. Fuck you,
Speaker 2: I don't read it, okay. So Ben, and your goal
Speaker 2: going into the industry was to shoot with Angela White,
Speaker 2: which feels like a no brainer, right, fellow Azsie. How
Speaker 2: did that go?
Speaker 3: It went so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I couldn't like when she followed me and message like
Speaker 3: I messaged her. I couldn't believe it, Like that is
Speaker 3: the biggest goal I had. And yeah, we line up
Speaker 3: a shoot date and it went really well. Like I
Speaker 3: I was definitely nervous at the time. If you watched
Speaker 3: the video, like I start off completely soft because I'm
Speaker 3: like panicked. Yeah, and then as soon as it started
Speaker 3: getting hard, I could feel the blood rushing from my
Speaker 3: head to like where it needed to be. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: a wave of relief. And the scene went really well.
Speaker 3: It was like fifty minutes long. We ended up winning
Speaker 3: an AVN for it as well. It was awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was really cool that Angela had seen a lot
Speaker 3: of my content before, you know, she did her homework
Speaker 3: on me before before we planned to shoot, and I suggested,
Speaker 3: you know, we can get a camera man if you want,
Speaker 3: because I'm thinking the less pressure on me to get
Speaker 3: the angles and the lighting and stuff the better. And
Speaker 3: she said, no, I've seen your work. I like it.
Speaker 3: I trust you to shoot it and do a good job.
Speaker 3: It'll sell well, am I only fans. So that was
Speaker 3: a huge vert of confidence and I like that. And yeah,
Speaker 3: now I've shut with her three times. We did that
Speaker 3: scene and then two threesomes.
Speaker 2: She's lovely, isn't she.
Speaker 3: She's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like I'm It's funny sometimes I joke about
Speaker 2: this show. She's just called I love that I love
Speaker 2: Angela White show because I'm such a big fan of hers.
Speaker 2: She is one of those people who's just become like
Speaker 2: obviously enormously famous, and it hasn't changed her personality, like
Speaker 2: at all. She's still like the same person, incredibly like humble, personable,
Speaker 2: you know, treats everybody on set with like respect and
Speaker 2: you know, down to like the lowest PA. She's you know, I.
Speaker 3: Find she's on set. It's like she's team captain, yes,
Speaker 3: and she's just plugged in. She knows what's about to happen,
Speaker 3: what she needs to do to help in the situation,
Speaker 3: what to say to the right person, and just things
Speaker 3: just flow when she's around. It's great, And every time
Speaker 3: we've shot it, I've like asked, like I can pick
Speaker 3: a brain afterwards, and she'll hang out for a half
Speaker 3: hour or more, just answering any questions I have, honestly,
Speaker 3: and yeah, really friendly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a fantastic performer. She's just one of those
Speaker 2: people that you can really tell isn't faking it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like when it comes to the sex,
Speaker 2: like she do, Like I can just see it click
Speaker 2: on her brain. She just devours you with her eyes
Speaker 2: like she loves sex.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's genuine, enthusiastic.
Speaker 2: Genuine, and it's so clear and it's such a joy
Speaker 2: to shoot someone like that. I mean, there's nothing better
Speaker 2: than working with someone who really loves their job. And
Speaker 2: it's just like I mean, she's just like perfect in
Speaker 2: every way. So I feel like there's no one's ever
Speaker 2: had a bad scene with her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, how could you? Yeah, she brings out the
Speaker 3: best in everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So next on the I Love Angela White Show.
Speaker 2: What's my next question? So, how do you handle privacy
Speaker 2: and boundaries with being such a recognizable fissurey Right now?
Speaker 3: It's strange because it's coming so fast It kind of
Speaker 3: depends where I am, like how often I recognized, you know,
Speaker 3: when I'm at home back in Australia in my city,
Speaker 3: Like if I go out safe to assume that most
Speaker 3: people my age would know who I am. But as
Speaker 3: far as boundaries go, like I love when people come
Speaker 3: up to me and say get a I'll get a
Speaker 3: picture with them, chat for a minute. It can be
Speaker 3: hard when people are drunk and they don't understand boundaries.
Speaker 3: You have to be firm and you know, give them
Speaker 3: a handshake, say nice to meet you, and like turn
Speaker 3: away from them. But yeah, I find people are generally
Speaker 3: respectful and I don't I'm not involved in any drama.
Speaker 3: I don't do anything controversial and that gives me a
Speaker 3: peace of mind that you know, I don't really have
Speaker 3: anybody out there trying to hurt me. Yeah, I just
Speaker 3: be polite but firm if I need to be. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I haven't had any issues yet.
Speaker 2: You seem like a pretty down to earth guy. And
Speaker 2: from what I've seen of you online, like you still
Speaker 2: have a lot of like your friends from school, and
Speaker 2: you seem to have a very strong like family and
Speaker 2: home base that you really like to return to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm close with my family like it's and
Speaker 3: my family is really close, Like my grandma and grandpa
Speaker 3: did a really good job keeping everyone tight, kit and
Speaker 3: you know, my auntie's and uncles do the same with
Speaker 3: their kids, and we're all just it's a good family unit.
Speaker 3: And my close friend's back home and mostly my boys
Speaker 3: from high school or like you know, a few new
Speaker 3: people since then, but yeah, just good solid people that
Speaker 3: I can trust and I know they're good people.
Speaker 2: So now you recently did a mainstream campaign back in Australia,
Speaker 2: right for like a space.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mingle Seasoning.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was awesome. I got an email one days
Speaker 3: because I've been looking to do a few brand deals
Speaker 3: and I did one with a condom company in Australia
Speaker 3: and then yeah, Mingle season He reached out to me
Speaker 3: and asked if I wanted to be a part of
Speaker 3: their new campaign they're doing. Yeah, they TV, I say,
Speaker 3: in Australia right now, there's a TV commercial, billboards like
Speaker 3: I'm on the radio, a whole bunch of online articles
Speaker 3: all for being the chief satisfaction officer for Mingle Seasoning.
Speaker 3: I was on the Today Show like the Morning Today
Speaker 3: show doing like a cooking show with them.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that must have been surreal.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. Like my friend's girlfriend was in the dentist
Speaker 3: chair and she saw me on the TV like above
Speaker 3: the dentist and I had someone on my Instagram they
Speaker 3: saw they were in prison and saw me on the
Speaker 3: prison TV. And then when they got out, they sent
Speaker 3: me a message like I saw you on TV in prison.
Speaker 2: Now do you get like crazy fan mail and dms? Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have Like message request folder is like
Speaker 3: to be avoided. Yes, it's full of butthole picks, dick picks,
Speaker 3: unsolicited pictures of people's wives. Like it's just random weird stuff.
Speaker 2: What is like some of the craziest messages that you've gotten?
Speaker 3: Oh? I had one fan bless us whole. She'd sketch
Speaker 3: me like every day she had sketch books full of
Speaker 3: sketches of me and like, you know, pages and pages
Speaker 3: of my eyes. And then one day she sketched like
Speaker 3: an entire song and every page had one line from
Speaker 3: the song with us acting out what the lyrics in
Speaker 3: the song were saying, and like blessed us all, Like
Speaker 3: she's such a sweetheart. But I had to kind of
Speaker 3: be like it's getting a little parasocial heel, like I
Speaker 3: don't know where this is going, but I don't want
Speaker 3: to go too far because but it was it was
Speaker 3: really sweet. I loved it.
Speaker 2: Have you ever met her like at a convention?
Speaker 3: No, this is like a fan on OnlyFans. Wow, she
Speaker 3: may meet me one day at a convention or something.
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, I mean sometimes you it's hard to
Speaker 2: set those bound.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is fun and it is like kind
Speaker 3: of funny as well, but I don't want it to
Speaker 3: get too.
Speaker 2: Far and yeah, yeah, yeah, how do how do you
Speaker 2: set those boundaries? Because I've I've had to deal with
Speaker 2: that too or sometimes it gets to a point where
Speaker 2: you're like, well, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I don't shy away from you know, reminding my
Speaker 3: fans that like of the dynamic, Like I've made videos
Speaker 3: on TikTok, like I made one last week saying like,
Speaker 3: if you find yourself getting in a parasocial relationship with me,
Speaker 3: just remind yourself I'm a thirty one year old guy
Speaker 3: making tiktoks. Like You'll get over it pretty quick about
Speaker 3: all of that. But yeah, you know, and I try
Speaker 3: not to lean too much into like I don't know,
Speaker 3: pretending to be in relationships with fans and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: it's just not really my vibe. I feel if it's
Speaker 3: going to make me feel bad, I don't want to
Speaker 3: do it for money, So I'm like, yeah, I'm happy
Speaker 3: to reinforce a boundary, even if it means losing a
Speaker 3: little bit income.
Speaker 2: Right right now, you're in your single right yeah, and
Speaker 2: that feels like the right move for you right now.
Speaker 3: I'd say so definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, when do you are you somebody who wants
Speaker 2: to get married and have a family later on in life?
Speaker 3: I think one day? Yeah, Like where I am in
Speaker 3: life right now, Like porn career is going great. Living
Speaker 3: in La feels like I got like the world of
Speaker 3: my feet right now, and introducing like a relationship dynamic
Speaker 3: to my life right now would kind of complicate things
Speaker 3: and maybe hold me back in some way. I'd kind
Speaker 3: of prefer to just stay single, not break hearts, focus
Speaker 3: on work, have as much fun as I can wile
Speaker 3: I'm in La, disappear back to Australia and settle down
Speaker 3: a bit once I'm back home.
Speaker 2: Do you think that it would be hard to like
Speaker 2: date the way I look at.
Speaker 3: It, like because I decided this when I started doing porn.
Speaker 3: I realized that there's a large demographic of people that
Speaker 3: won't date me because I did porn. But I'm kind
Speaker 3: of doing myself a favor in that I don't want
Speaker 3: to date those people if they'll have an issue with
Speaker 3: someone that does porn, so I've done it. Otherwise I'll compromise,
Speaker 3: like get them out of the dating pool. I did
Speaker 3: myself a favor, So I don't know. It's hard to
Speaker 3: not date because like, dates are fun. I love women
Speaker 3: going out for drinks and stuff like that. And then
Speaker 3: you know, how do you reinforce Like I can't do
Speaker 3: anything serious right now, but feelings inevitably get involved.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's tough.
Speaker 2: It's complicated.
Speaker 3: It's hard because you want to be I want to
Speaker 3: be sweet and nice and you know, I have fun
Speaker 3: with people. But I don't know, it's a tricky situation
Speaker 3: to navigate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then also have to yes at those boundaries.
Speaker 2: That's really hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so glad.
Speaker 2: I am no longer in the dating pool. It's oh
Speaker 2: my god, those were those days were rough? Absolutely, do
Speaker 2: you ever plan on shooting any kind of studio porn?
Speaker 2: Are you going to only stick with like your own content.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean doing my own content is great, and
Speaker 3: I've kind of ticked every box that i wanted to
Speaker 3: chick shooting my own content. I'm not opposed to doing
Speaker 3: some studio porn. I think it could be fun.
Speaker 2: Are there potential offers on the horizon? Maybe you just
Speaker 2: give me a look that suggests that there may be
Speaker 2: something coming your way.
Speaker 3: I mean there's been some talks, Okay, some discussion.
Speaker 2: H interesting. Just saw you get the porn have awards.
Speaker 2: That means, okay, what does a typical day for you
Speaker 2: look like if you're not shooting content Right now?
Speaker 3: It's chaos because I'm trying to furnish an entire apartment
Speaker 3: and sort everything out that you need to sort out
Speaker 3: when you move to a new country, you know there's
Speaker 3: a lot to do. But typically, like once I'm settled in,
Speaker 3: if I have nothing to do, not doing much, chilling
Speaker 3: on the couch, play a bit of PlayStation, watch a movie.
Speaker 3: I've always got something about it. I can't be like
Speaker 3: idle for too long, Like I'll always have my laptop
Speaker 3: on me chatting to fans stuff like that. But as
Speaker 3: little was possible, like if I can get away with
Speaker 3: doing nothing for a day. I will one d per.
Speaker 2: Do you have, like any sports or gym time or
Speaker 2: anything like that to.
Speaker 3: Try to get again? When I'm not super busy, try
Speaker 3: to get to the gym four or five days a week,
Speaker 3: you know, take care of myself in that way. Not
Speaker 3: a big sports guy, but yeah, just going to the gym, exercising,
Speaker 3: doing a hike or something. It's always nice.
Speaker 2: Obviously, now we're in LA. What are some of the
Speaker 2: biggest differences between LA and Australia, Like any massive culture
Speaker 2: shocks here.
Speaker 3: The tipping thing is strange to me and I still
Speaker 3: don't know how to navigate it. Yes, because I could
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom and there's a guy handing you
Speaker 3: paper towels to dry your hands with, like you tip
Speaker 3: him Like my hands are wet. I got to get
Speaker 3: my wallet out. I just washed him and I'm touching money.
Speaker 3: That's true. You meant to tip your hairdresser. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I went to a hairdresser three times, didn't tip them,
Speaker 3: and they stopped returning my phone calls. It turns that
Speaker 3: I just I was stiffing them on payment. I didn't
Speaker 3: They had to tip the hairdresser. I was already paying
Speaker 3: for the haircut. I didn't they had to pay for
Speaker 3: the tip as well. Tipping is a big one. I
Speaker 3: don't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and since COVID, they added like the tipping
Speaker 2: thing to just going to get coffee, yeah, or going
Speaker 2: to like the store coffee, Like, would you like to
Speaker 2: add a tip? And it's like and it's built into
Speaker 2: the things, and you literally have to deny the tip, yeah,
Speaker 2: to like any in the way.
Speaker 3: They turn it around like, oh, just a couple questions
Speaker 3: on the screen and they walk away. And then you
Speaker 3: have to make your own. All they do is pour
Speaker 3: it in the cup and then you go to the
Speaker 3: little station and make your own coffee. You add the
Speaker 3: milk and the sugar, and I'm doing more work than
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that is one hundred percent new thing, and
Speaker 2: that started in COVID.
Speaker 3: And when you have to add like the price, isn't
Speaker 3: the price Like the price on the shelf is a dollar, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you go to the register, register it's a dollar fourteen
Speaker 3: or a dollar seven whatever it is, Like, do.
Speaker 2: You guys not have sales tax?
Speaker 3: No, we do, but it's built into the price, so
Speaker 3: it's ten dollars. Do you have ten dollar note? That's it.
Speaker 3: I think like the rest of the world is like that.
Speaker 3: That America just adds money. The price isn't the price
Speaker 3: because then you have to add the tax and the tip.
Speaker 3: And in my head as well, they exchange rate. When
Speaker 3: I'm spending Australia money, Like if something's ten dollars, it's
Speaker 3: like twenty five Australian dollars.
Speaker 2: What you do when you're in a hotel and you
Speaker 2: get room service and then they add like the room service,
Speaker 2: like delivery fee.
Speaker 3: Service fee at hotels as well, I think the resort
Speaker 3: fee or whatever it is. Like I paid, you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars a night, and then I get to
Speaker 3: the hotel and we have a fifty dollars a day
Speaker 3: resort fee.
Speaker 2: That's part of the price. Put it in the price.
Speaker 3: Why am I paying extra fees on everything?
Speaker 2: It's because everyone in this country, especially in la is
Speaker 2: full of shit. We're not any money anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything has extra fees with it, Like you can't
Speaker 3: do anything with that, you can't leave your house. So
Speaker 3: that's spending money somehow.
Speaker 2: Hey, No, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, culturally, I mean, yeah, that's that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: The tipping is what I'm like most unsure about. I
Speaker 3: love that you can turn right on red lights here.
Speaker 3: Love that about America.
Speaker 2: I remember actually because I'm so used to the tipping thing.
Speaker 2: I remember going to England one year and I left
Speaker 2: a tip for the drinks. Go into the bar and
Speaker 2: I left a tip for the drink on the bar,
Speaker 2: and I remember leaving and the bartender like, chase me out.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you left your money on the counter,
Speaker 2: And I was like.
Speaker 3: I see people that work in restaurants in the stray
Speaker 3: love Americans because they tip as well. Yeah, no one
Speaker 3: else tips, but the Americans are tipping like free money.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: And when it's so funny because I know that when
Speaker 2: I go to other countries and I know that people
Speaker 2: don't tip, I still tip, yeah, because I feel so guilty.
Speaker 3: I mean, the US doll is pretty good right now, and.
Speaker 2: I'm just like I know that, like people don't do it,
Speaker 2: but like if I don't tip, it's like ingrained me.
Speaker 2: Now it's like I have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they getting a wage. They good?
Speaker 2: So that turning on red lights? What about the people?
Speaker 3: The people uh, surprisingly friendly in America, Like what you
Speaker 3: see on the news. You know, you don't expect Americans
Speaker 3: to be normal, and you come out here and Americans
Speaker 3: are actually pretty normal. But then you do have those wdos,
Speaker 3: like the ones that growing up, you see Americans on
Speaker 3: TV and it's like point to you know, England on
Speaker 3: a map and they can't do it. Like the crazy
Speaker 3: videos from Walmart's of people just oh the people are
Speaker 3: creature Walmart. Yeah, Like there's those kind of videos of
Speaker 3: like genuine insane people.
Speaker 2: You're like, that is it? Have you been to Middle America?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like when you see that from outside, you're like,
Speaker 3: that's just Hollywood stuff. Like no one's really like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like they're not real people. And you go to Walmart
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh my god, they are actually real
Speaker 3: people like that. It's not made up there everywhere. So
Speaker 3: the spectrum of people in America, like the way how
Speaker 3: far to the crazy scale people go in America is interesting.
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.
Speaker 3: I mean, those people are real.
Speaker 2: Is a culture show, Yeah, it is. It's funny because
Speaker 2: like you know, here in La because all the beautiful
Speaker 2: people come here, right, you walk around and you're like
Speaker 2: a six right, you know, I'm like I'm like a
Speaker 2: month a six, and I go to some other state
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, I'm a fucking damn yeah.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Crazy thing to me about dating in LA is like
Speaker 3: you're chatting to a girl and she'll say something crazy
Speaker 3: like you know, she used to live in Miami. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: what you're doing, and she'll names are up like some
Speaker 3: you know, like NFL player or famous musicians. She's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I used to date him for a while, Like you
Speaker 3: dated like an NFL player and now you're talking to
Speaker 3: me like my competition is like famous musicians and sports
Speaker 3: people and actors.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but the size of a wine bottle.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's true.
Speaker 2: They got crazy with you. Yeah yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: Like at dinner with the girl and I just like
Speaker 3: at a bar and like accidentally in a peripheral vision
Speaker 3: called like her Instagram dms just old blue ticks like
Speaker 3: famous people. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. My competition in
Speaker 3: Australia was local dudes.
Speaker 2: So what is the ratio of like male fans to
Speaker 2: female fans By the way, because you know, generally like
Speaker 2: men consume more important than women do. But obviously you're
Speaker 2: a man, so like, yeah, so much more men.
Speaker 3: My demographics changed over time. Initially it was mostly men
Speaker 3: because I used to use Twitter and Reddit to market
Speaker 3: myself and that's mostly men on the platforms. And then
Speaker 3: I started using a lot more TikTok on Instagram and
Speaker 3: since then, my I say, my fan base is about
Speaker 3: sixty percent women really, so like a fair few women. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like men of the biggest consumers of porn for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I've found as well a lot of women. It'll
Speaker 3: be the first time they subscribe to porn and it's
Speaker 3: mine and it's like they found me on TikTok and
Speaker 3: I picked their interests and they've come across interesting.
Speaker 2: What are the things that they say to you? Like,
Speaker 2: is it just like do they are they attracted to
Speaker 2: your penis size? Do they come for the deck? But
Speaker 2: then they stay for the personality.
Speaker 3: I think at least what they say is they come
Speaker 3: for the personality. They get a lot of comments they
Speaker 3: stay for the deck. So's I get a lot of
Speaker 3: comments on my TikTok as well that they've never seen
Speaker 3: my poor and they just like watching my videos and
Speaker 3: the way I talk, which is like really cute and wholesome.
Speaker 3: They've just never gone to Twitter, never gone to OnlyFans
Speaker 3: and seen what I do. But then I've videos as well,
Speaker 3: Like as my styles developed, you know, initially I wasn't
Speaker 3: showing my face and all the focuses on my deck,
Speaker 3: very like male gaze type porn. You know, I was
Speaker 3: inspired by like Mike Adriano and Dread and those kind
Speaker 3: of camera angles. And then as my I kind of
Speaker 3: developed more of my own style, started showing my face,
Speaker 3: but you know, my face and the scenes a lot,
Speaker 3: and just I don't know, my focus kind of shifted
Speaker 3: to just making like still good porn. My Dick's still
Speaker 3: like the central focus, but also showing like the two
Speaker 3: of us enjoying ourselves and the connection and that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. I found a lot of women enjoy that. Yes,
Speaker 3: so I've kind of I think my porn appeals to
Speaker 3: men and women kind of equally. You know, anybody can
Speaker 3: get something out of it. And luckily it's just a
Speaker 3: style of porn that I've come to enjoy making. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: just make the porn that I like to watch and
Speaker 3: it resonates with people.
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, women definitely really like that,
Speaker 2: that connection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they like seeing your faces and seeing how you interact, yes,
Speaker 3: and all that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And that's why they also generally like kind of like
Speaker 2: more of a story or a narrative. They like to
Speaker 2: know like why is this happening? Like why is this happening?
Speaker 2: What's where men are more visually driven?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you haven't about to start doing some like awny
Speaker 3: book reading type videos as well. I'm excited for that.
Speaker 3: Oh so you get a lot of people on TikTok
Speaker 3: that you know, they're into the smutty books, which is
Speaker 3: a huge thing right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I've got a plan to like make a new
Speaker 3: page and it's going to be just me, you know,
Speaker 3: in a cool little setting reading a book like video
Speaker 3: as well. Things are going to get steamy. I'll do
Speaker 3: a little show as I'm reading whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: I think they'll enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Do you have any books or eerotic literature in particular
Speaker 2: that you're going to read?
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna leave it up to them. Do you
Speaker 3: know what do they want to see me read? Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything too crazy because a
Speaker 3: lot of those books.
Speaker 2: Are Yeah, the Yellow wil a little while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the book talk people like me because I'm
Speaker 3: like the proportions of the people in the books.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tall guy with a.
Speaker 3: Comically big dick. Every time there's a video and TikTok,
Speaker 3: if someone talking about like they're reading the size of
Speaker 3: the dick in the book, it's like she couldn't fit
Speaker 3: two hands around it. I get tagged in the comments
Speaker 3: every time, like, look at his diick, this is the
Speaker 3: one they're talking about.
Speaker 2: So they actually people do this on TikTok. TikTok, let's
Speaker 2: that fly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they'll kind of like they'll read the passage
Speaker 3: of the book, like they won't say dick, but they'll mention,
Speaker 3: like they'll refer to it, and they'll be grabbing objects
Speaker 3: to try to see like how big it would be. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's like a whole like like series on TikTok
Speaker 2: about like reading erotic literature.
Speaker 3: Oh no, TikTok won't let me do that. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do it on a separate platform, Okay, but you can
Speaker 3: talk about you know, direct traffic from TikTok to the.
Speaker 2: Platform and using ti talk's so tricky, they're so like
Speaker 2: it's funny. Instagram lets you get away with a lot
Speaker 2: more now, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: People nake it on Instagram, like there's like a breastfeeding
Speaker 3: loophole and girls just had their naked hits out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: with like fake babies. There's a body point.
Speaker 2: The body paint.
Speaker 4: I was going to say that. And the lips, Yes,
Speaker 4: I was the video that you're talking about, And I
Speaker 4: was like, how how this incredible lips out in the breeze.
Speaker 2: Lips out in the breeze with the view behind her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know exactly which one you're talking about, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: how was this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 3: Well, that was that time Tommy Lee uploaded a dick
Speaker 3: pic and it was up for like eight hours or
Speaker 3: something on his Instagram story. It's full dick.
Speaker 2: Picow damn Instagram. I mean, like, make up your mind.
Speaker 2: Can we do it or not?
Speaker 3: Like you know, TikTok, a swift with it had an
Speaker 3: account with like two hundred thousand followers get banned just
Speaker 3: like out of the blue night warnings just taken down.
Speaker 2: Do you know why did they give you a reason?
Speaker 3: I've got a theory, but I mean, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think it was anything I persced on TikTok. It was
Speaker 3: you know, there's people that look in the shadows.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, yeah, there's always those people.
Speaker 3: A wording you you internet mafia that want the money.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, As
Speaker 2: a straight guy who doesn't do gay for pay, what
Speaker 2: kind of content do you do to you appeal to
Speaker 2: your gay audience or do you just make the content
Speaker 2: and they just come. You build it and they will come.
Speaker 3: I build it and they come again. My view on
Speaker 3: it is, I only want to make content that I
Speaker 3: think looks good because if I know it looks good,
Speaker 3: then I'm confident in what I'm doing. If I'm doing
Speaker 3: things because I think it's what the audience wants, then
Speaker 3: it's just guesswork and I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Does it look good? Is it not? I don't know
Speaker 3: anything about foot fetishes or those kind of things, So
Speaker 3: I don't do that kind of content that much unless
Speaker 3: it's like a request and they're paying specifically for it.
Speaker 3: But I just make content that I think looks good
Speaker 3: and what I've done, Like I was saying, I was
Speaker 3: always an exhibitionist, always showing myself off pictures of my
Speaker 3: dick and whatever. Just like by myself. I have a
Speaker 3: second only fans page. That's just solo content. So if
Speaker 3: guys don't want to see me with girls, they go
Speaker 3: there and it's just a content that I take as
Speaker 3: I would back in the day and post to Twitter.
Speaker 3: But now I have this platform to upload it too,
Speaker 3: because I don't want to spare my Twitter page with
Speaker 3: just dick pics every other day. Probably have my reach
Speaker 3: on there, but yeah, I have the solo page. I
Speaker 3: just post whatever I want, jerk off videos, pictures, and
Speaker 3: that's I think that one, as well as about sixty
Speaker 3: forty Men and Women becausetends that a lot of women
Speaker 3: like watching dudes jerk off and enjoy themselves log as,
Speaker 3: your faces in it, and you're making noise, they're into it.
Speaker 2: I know. I hate the videos where the guys don't
Speaker 2: make noise. That always makes me sad. I want to
Speaker 2: hear the guy. I actually don't want to know.
Speaker 3: It's strange to learn because every guy starts jerking off
Speaker 3: in complete silence in their bedroom, so the family doesn't hear.
Speaker 3: So like, you're just women are probably the same, but
Speaker 3: you're just like a solo like, yeah, you can come
Speaker 3: like a ninja dead sign like, so you kin't have
Speaker 3: to learn to like make the noises comfortable and confident
Speaker 3: in doing it. Yeah, but it is fun when you do. Yes,
Speaker 3: I had that solo page, although I do have a
Speaker 3: lot of gay fans that are subscribed to my collaboration
Speaker 3: page and they say, like, I'm the only straight porn
Speaker 3: they'll watch. At the horn Hub Awards, someone came up
Speaker 3: to me. They said, of have a twink army because
Speaker 3: all these like, you know, twink gay guys, they just
Speaker 3: love my content, like solo or not. They're like coming
Speaker 3: up to me and Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Love Why that's so funny. Was it Liam who told
Speaker 2: you that?
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, I love Liam.
Speaker 2: He is great.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like something you'd say. What do you
Speaker 2: think there's the biggest misconception people have about sex work.
Speaker 3: I think people don't realize how much it's changed in
Speaker 3: the last twenty years. You may be able to speak
Speaker 3: more in it than I can, but I I know
Speaker 3: growing up and like I'd read all the interviews and
Speaker 3: see them behind the scenes of you know, as much
Speaker 3: as I could see behind the scenes of porn sets
Speaker 3: when I was, you know, a teenager. I'm reading interviews
Speaker 3: with like Shuter stylis and people like that. I think,
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to have
Speaker 3: changed a lot since those days because you hear the
Speaker 3: stories significantly, and I didn't really know what to expect
Speaker 3: coming into it. I had no idea what the industry
Speaker 3: in the US was like. But I haven't seen anything
Speaker 3: at all like the old stories from the old days.
Speaker 3: It seems very above board with only fans. Now people
Speaker 3: make their own money, they're in control of their own content,
Speaker 3: so there seems to be a lot less coercion and
Speaker 3: control over the performers, whereas I guess back in the
Speaker 3: day the money might have been less there was no
Speaker 3: other alternative besides doing what the director says. I can't
Speaker 3: speak too much on that because i'd have experience with it.
Speaker 3: But from what I've seen, everyone seems to be, you know,
Speaker 3: thriving if they want to be in control of themselves
Speaker 3: and control their own content, happy with what they're doing.
Speaker 3: There's not as much shame about it, I guess, as
Speaker 3: you might think. And also what's weird is whenever a
Speaker 3: bunch of porn stars get together, less orgies than I
Speaker 3: thought they'd be. It's really strange that yeah. I mean
Speaker 3: there's been a couple around, but you go to a
Speaker 3: party and it's just everyone's fully clothed, talking normally, like
Speaker 3: more more team than a lot of other parties have
Speaker 3: been to that aren't porn people.
Speaker 2: I thought there would be more orgies important, So I thought.
Speaker 3: Every single party would just be a big orgy. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like we got a chance to not have to
Speaker 3: do that, like, which we can just hang out and talk. Great.
Speaker 2: I think it's like one of the things when like
Speaker 2: your job is sex, like you don't actually want to
Speaker 2: do it all the time, right, it's just like you're tired. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's funny. Yeah, I know it's that's absolutely true. I
Speaker 2: mean you hit the nail on the head with all
Speaker 2: of those observations. It's absolutely true. I think now is
Speaker 2: like the best time to get into sex work. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: performers have more control over their career than they ever have,
Speaker 2: they're making more money, they're more respected by the brands
Speaker 2: and the studios than they ever have been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think there's still some like the belief
Speaker 3: in the stigma that it is is the way that
Speaker 3: it used to be. Yeah, but it seems to have changed.
Speaker 3: A lot. I don't know if I could have got
Speaker 3: into it the way it used to be, Yeah, especially
Speaker 3: with the pay for guys being solowly back then and
Speaker 3: the last till you'd have to live, I think I
Speaker 3: would have just stayed in Australia and worked a job.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you give one piece of advice to any
Speaker 2: guys looking to get into the adult industry, what would
Speaker 2: it be.
Speaker 3: I got this question all the time, Like every day
Speaker 3: guys ask me how do I get in the industry?
Speaker 2: I get that question all the time too.
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, you've got to love it
Speaker 3: like you've got to do it because you want to
Speaker 3: show off. If you're doing it just for the money,
Speaker 3: you're not going to last. You know, you need to
Speaker 3: want to be seen because you've got to market yourself,
Speaker 3: especially with OnlyFans. No one's going to help you market yourself.
Speaker 3: You need to be a self starter. But what I'd
Speaker 3: say is start taking Dick pics, learn how to make
Speaker 3: yourself look good, post them on Twitter, build a following
Speaker 3: of your own like Twitter is a great networking tool.
Speaker 3: It's like LinkedIn for porn. Posted Dick pics on Twitter,
Speaker 3: follow pages that post dick pics and network with them,
Speaker 3: repost their stuff, they'll repost yours. Build an audience, and
Speaker 3: then once you have an audience and you know how
Speaker 3: to make yourself look good, then you can approach if
Speaker 3: you want. If your goal is to shoot porn to
Speaker 3: other people, then you can approach them. They'll see you
Speaker 3: have a following of your own. You're not just trying
Speaker 3: to lead off theirs. They see that you can make
Speaker 3: yourself look good, so they're going to trust you to
Speaker 3: make them look good and you can kind of just
Speaker 3: go from there, you know, learn marketing side, pick a
Speaker 3: style you kind of want to shoot, how you want
Speaker 3: to present yourself, and go from there. And it's going
Speaker 3: to it is a struggle. Like I know from personal experience,
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure in my face. It took six to
Speaker 3: nine months before I got to a point where people
Speaker 3: were even starting to reach out to me. So it's
Speaker 3: a lot of reaching out, a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: cold DMS, sending hundreds people messages like respectfully like hey, there,
Speaker 3: hope you will would love to shoot with you sometime
Speaker 3: if you're open to it, and like leave it at that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is a ground you have to love
Speaker 3: it to get through the hard work at first. But
Speaker 3: there is also a shortage of guys in the industry.
Speaker 3: So if you're respectful, can make yourself look good and
Speaker 3: build an audience and market yourself, you stand a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah, but make yourself look good. Don't
Speaker 3: lay in bed with the curtains, draw on a grainy
Speaker 3: dick pic with your feet in frame and dirty laundry
Speaker 3: in the corner, and then send a hundred DMS to girls.
Speaker 3: Obviously you're just trying to have sex with them. You
Speaker 3: don't care about the content. If you do get a
Speaker 3: chance to shoot content with someone, make them look good.
Speaker 3: Get some lighting, make sure that lighting is important. Make
Speaker 3: sure you got a trip or make the care angles
Speaker 3: look good. Do your homework because amount of times, like
Speaker 3: guys have started getting in the industry, they'll work with
Speaker 3: the girl I know, So I ask her like, oh,
Speaker 3: how is it shooting with such and such? We got
Speaker 3: three minutes of footage. Every other angle is just his
Speaker 3: butt cheeks. The lighting is terrible. We can't sell it.
Speaker 3: It's the way I see it is like when you
Speaker 3: shoot with someone, it's kind of like you're putting a
Speaker 3: billboard on each other's page. You know, there on my page,
Speaker 3: and it's like, this is my style, my videography, and
Speaker 3: everything's on their page, and my dick obviously on their page.
Speaker 3: This is my style. You're kind of cross promoting. Look
Speaker 3: at it that way, like, how do you want to
Speaker 3: come across to potential new fans and customers and make
Speaker 3: yourself and them look as good as you can?
Speaker 2: I think that's like the most thorough and well thought
Speaker 2: out advice anyone has ever given.
Speaker 3: I get asked all the time, and I'm always looking
Speaker 3: to give advice, but the people asking for advice have
Speaker 3: never tried to start themselves. You know, it's a blank page,
Speaker 3: Like how do I do what you do? If you
Speaker 3: haven't even tried yet, you can't make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Also the problem is, too, is that
Speaker 2: a lot of guys for of all, Unfortunately, this is
Speaker 2: a job that a very small percentage of men can
Speaker 2: do for two reasons, Like you have to be well endowed,
Speaker 2: like fairly well in dowed. You don't have to be you.
Speaker 2: And there are some guys that are definitely not huge
Speaker 2: that do well.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name names, but there's some big
Speaker 3: games with regular sized penises.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but being able to perform, stay hard in front
Speaker 2: of people on command. Come on, These things are not easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a huge barrier to entry for men. Like
Speaker 3: for women, there's a market for everybody type, every shape.
Speaker 3: You don't need to get hot or anything. It's there's
Speaker 3: like a low barrier to entry for men. Be at
Speaker 3: least average sized penis generally, which rules out health population,
Speaker 3: be able to get it up when you want, finish
Speaker 3: when you want is ruling out a whole bunch more
Speaker 3: as well. So it's a select few people can do it.
Speaker 3: And you have to be honest with yourself. Like I
Speaker 3: remember when I started, there were a couple of times
Speaker 3: where I'm shooting and I'm like I was going to
Speaker 3: come way too quick, like three minutes of sex, and
Speaker 3: I was bad at coms. I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I have to figure this out. Is if this is
Speaker 3: a problem I'm going to have every time I can't
Speaker 3: get the career that I want to go to, pick
Speaker 3: a different angle or stop doing it, like different trajectory'll
Speaker 3: stop doing it all together. Be honest with yourself. Can
Speaker 3: you cut it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It's not easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you. Those are some very thorough pieces
Speaker 2: of advice. From the growth Master. Well, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for coming on. I do have some extra questions
Speaker 2: for you for my Peatreon members, which we will do
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Speaker 2: tell everybody where they can find you online? Please?
Speaker 3: If you google girth Master you'll find me. Look me
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