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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. I am

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very excited today because today my guest is the Internet's boyfriend.

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He is a six foot six inch Avian Award winning

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Australian performer who's notorious for the wine bottle in his pants.

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Welcome the one and only girth Master.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: You're so welcome. So his name is also Ben, which

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I'm going to Can I call you Ben?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure, right, I don't. You don't want me to call

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you girth Master the entire time?

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Speaker 3: Right, you can call me whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Ben, let's start at the beginning. How did

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you get started in the adult industry.

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Speaker 3: So I've always been like a bit of an online exhibitionist,

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like posting pictures of my dick for attention on the

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internet all over the place, and like I mean, since

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I was a teenager on Tumbler, you know what I mean,

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I was, I post dick tis there they'd go a

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little viral. So I just like love the attention.

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Speaker 2: So we actually, let's go back a little bit. When

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did you realize that you had a large penis?

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Speaker 3: In high school? In the showers at school camp, Okay,

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I mean a few of the boys were in there.

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They saw my dick and like it was like, you know,

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semi hard at the time, uh huh, And they ran

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out screamed to everyone like get in here. Like half

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the grade was in the shower was looking at my dick. Really,

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I was like mured around the school for it.

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Speaker 2: How did that feel?

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Speaker 3: It was weird because also like I didn't know how

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big it was relative to other dicks because I hadn't

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seen any, right, So I thought that, you know, there's

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a guy in the grade above me. His nickname was Racehorse,

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and like, surely he's bigger than mine. It's like three

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coke cans something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm watching porn and there's Danny D. And

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I'm like, Danny D's got to be bigger than me, surely.

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So I didn't know how crazy big it was until

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I was about a year into my career and I

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shut with Joanna Angel and she told me it was

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the biggest shed scene. And that's when it really sunk

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in that like babe, I am girth pasta because it

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was just like a tongue in cheek joke of a name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So so literally, up until that moment in the showers,

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you you didn't know you thought like everyone's penis was

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that size.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew it was like above average because like

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you chatted to the boys and it's like, oh, mine's

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this big. You know mine fits you know, doesn't fit

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in a toilet paper roll, those kind of things, the

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classic toilet paper roll comparison.

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Speaker 2: I don't know this.

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Speaker 3: It's like guys to measure their dicks, like does it

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put it in a toilet paper roll to see like

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that's like a girth test, and like that doesn't fit

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over like half my tip. So I was like, I know,

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I'm like above average. I don't know how exceptional it was.

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Speaker 2: Wow, is this the moment? Okay, so big reveal. Guys,

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I have never seen his penis. I have no idea

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what it looks like. I who work in the adult industry,

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I have no clue because I stopped directing like two

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years ago, so I just don't look at porn anymore.

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And so I've never had the fortune of working with

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this gentleman, and so I've never seen it. So he's

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going to show it to me right now, and I'm

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very excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna bitch you here, ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: The live reaction to first live reaction to.

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Speaker 2: The first seeing it, get the fuck out of here?

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Is that Is that a miniature wine bottle?

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Speaker 3: That's a full size wine bottle?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean the camera angles are doing be favorus

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in that shoot in that photo, but it's.

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Speaker 2: No, this is photoshoped.

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Speaker 3: No, that's real.

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Speaker 2: I need to see it.

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Speaker 3: It's right now. I used to be so embarrassed of

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like my soft size.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, sorry, Wow, that is very girthy. Jesus Christ.

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How do girls get that in their mouth?

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Speaker 3: They don't. I mean they try the furthest anyone's gotten

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was like a little over halfway. And it's so cute

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when girls are like, oh, I have no gag reflex,

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I can do it. They're not getting past your teeth,

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Like the gag reflex doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: So do they just like nibble on it like a

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corn on the cob, Like, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't have fun with it, Like it's a novelty sized dick,

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like just you know, have fun, put both hands on it,

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try to deep thread it if you want.

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Speaker 2: It's a part of you like sad that you've never

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had like a real blood.

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Speaker 3: Not at all. I mean it'd be cool one time

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to get deep threated, I guess, But if the trade

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off is not having a giant dick that lets me

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live this kind of life, then I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna get back to like how you got

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started and everything. But are there any downfalls to having

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such a large penis? Like, are there times that you

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wish that you had like an average sized dick?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I want to get deep throated. Yeah,

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Otherwise there's no downside none. I mean there's been a

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couple of times well like it'll be too big for

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a girl to take regularly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Really, you know, I've been in like long term relationships

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and it's been fine.

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do they have to like get acclimated to it.

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Speaker 3: They're like an adjustment period for show. Okay, and if

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you don't have sex for like a few weeks, it

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goes back to you know, yeah day one again, got

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to readjust that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, girls have often said that they actually prefer girth

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to length because length, like if it's not that it's

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not long, because it is also that. But like if

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something's just like really long, it and like not necessarily girthy,

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it just like kind of post your cervix and can

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be painful, but like the girth is kind of preferable

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over that. So do you find that girls seem to

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prefer yours because of the girth versus like just the length.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I've heard that a lot. Like chicks love girth,

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yeah a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, like you said, this is the long

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pointy ones to stab the savix. Yeah, I'm glad mine

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isn't any longer than it is. Yeah, because as it is,

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I can usually get it all the way in. By

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the time that warmed up, I can get my entire

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dicka and just yeah, if it was any longer to

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be uncomfortable, I.

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Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, how long is it?

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Speaker 3: It's eight inches long?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's like.

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Speaker 3: Right at the upper level of like what people can accomodate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not like a crazy like twelve inches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, there are some dicks that I've seen on some

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guys that I'm just like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean you would have seen dreads, right, yeah, Jesus, Yeah,

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that is a thud like and he's a big guy. Yeah,

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and his dick looks huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's one other guy that I saw. I can't

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remember his name, but he was on blacked and it

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was just a picture of him like standing and his

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dick was like to his knee and.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he was also a shorter guy. But

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I was like, now, like that can be real. Yeah,

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how do you live life like that?

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Speaker 3: Insane? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's I like mine a lot.

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It's a lot of fun, soft, pretty good.

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Speaker 2: No no regrets, No, you're you're absolutely fine with the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, feel blessed. Not really any downsides. I can't wear

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gray sweatpants around family otherwise, but other than that, it's good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll go back to how you got started

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in the industry. So you've realized you have a large penis,

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You've been blessed with this gift, and you're maybe coming

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to the realization that you should do something with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I was just posting pictures of myself

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online and then a friend of mine was, you know,

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cheated only fans, and I told her that I had

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this Twitter page with like, I don't know, thirty or

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forty thousand followers. I'd started during like COVID lockdown. I

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just so I had to quarantine in a hotel for

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two weeks, had a camera phone, nothing else to do,

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started a Twitter page, started posting dick pics like just

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for funic joker videos, whatever. And then I told a

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friend of mine about it, and she's like, I do

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only fans. I make forty thousand dollars a month, Like

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you can. Why are you giving away for free? You

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can make money doing it. Yeah, So I started it

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just expecting it to be like a little bit of

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beer money, maybe help me out with the rent every

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now and then. And it took off pretty quickly to

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like making more than my day job. And yeah, like

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after a year, I quit my day job and just

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went full time in porn.

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Speaker 2: Why did it take you a year? If it like,

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how quickly did it take off? Was it the situation

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where you're like, I don't know if I want to

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go full time into porn?

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Speaker 3: Like I think it was about three months in I

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was making the same as my day job and then

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a year in when I quit my day job, I

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went to see an account and got myself properly set

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up and new taxes had to pay and everything realized

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I was making four times my salary and I really

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wanted to make sure that I was not taking too

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big of a risk, like quit my day job, do

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porn and that fails, and like you know what happens then, right,

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So I stuck at that for a year. The people

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I worked with in nice and like, there was a

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lady I worked with who hadn't been to see her

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family for like three years because of COVID. She couldn't

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leave Australia, and she had holidays booked for like two

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months in like I was December January something like that,

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and I was the personally could do her job. So

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I stuck it out until she went saw her family,

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and then as soon as she got back, I had

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my notice in already. I was like, good to see

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you again, goodbye and yeah, and then I just spent

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full time in Portland.

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Speaker 2: Did the people that you were working with a your

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day job, did they know what you were doing? I'm sorry?

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Speaker 3: And it was really funny because every other day they'd

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say like they'd say something like, oh, I hate this job,

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I'm going to quit new only fans. I'm sitting there

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doing well and only fans like you have no idea

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how hard it is. I'm gonna let her quit my

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self fit picks good luck.

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Speaker 2: So were you showing your face at the time.

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Speaker 3: No, I had my face hidden until I quit my

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day job.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's that makes it.

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Speaker 3: It was part of the reason I hit my face

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was I had my day job. My family didn't know

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at that stage, you know, a whole lot of things.

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And then I just worked on taking care of those things,

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like sorting that so I could start showing my face

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if I wanted to. And then, yeah, I hit a

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point my career where it's going well. I just I

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wanted to show my face. I was looking for a

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reason to do it. So, yeah, I'm glad I did.

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Speaker 2: Did you talk to your family about it first before

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you did that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that was like one of the things I

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wanted to do, Like I wanted to be the one

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to tell them. Yeah, mom knew I had a job

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in the adult industry online because I'd let her know.

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I'd I owed Mom like ten thousand dollars, I think,

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and as I started making OnlyFans money, I was a

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couple months there and I sent her like ten thousand

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dollars and I was like, hey, my good news, bad

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news just paid you the ten grand. Here's how I

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made it. I told her I had an online adult job,

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but she didn't know what it was, so she was

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a little like scared. She'd call me up and say

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things like, oh, I just watched a documentary about sex

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stortion where people get people's nudes and you know, blackmail them.

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And I'm like, mom, I'm not doing that. Oh thank god.

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So once I finally told her, she was relieved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I told my sisters and they were really good about it.

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You know, their questions are just like, how are you

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staying safe, how much money you're making, is it viable

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to quit your job? Stuff like that. Yeah, just you know,

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cautious family member things. But I'm glad I waited until

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I was successful to tell them. Yeah, it's the kind

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of thing that you're trying to talk someone out of.

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Speaker 2: Doing, right of course, And yeah it's great to like

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prove that this is a viable career. I can't make money,

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I can do well rather than like, I'm going to

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give this a shot, because you know, the thing is

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is that once you go there and you show your

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face and the stigma's there, you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't get it, you can'tundo it. Yeah yeah, and

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you can lose your job and anything for it.

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Speaker 2: So absolutely, so you were willing to show your face

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because you felt pretty confident that this was something that

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you could continue to do and you didn't feel like

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you had to go back to any kind of day job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I'd quit my day job and I

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was making like four times my salary at the time,

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and then I started working with some like really big names,

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and you know, the money went up even more. And

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at that point, I was just really confident that I

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could quit my day job, and not showing my face

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was holding me back from marketing myself a lot. Yeah,

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I can't really use TikTok or Instagram if I'm not

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showing my face.

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Speaker 2: It's a little way, right.

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Speaker 3: So, and also it just kind of felt like the

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women I work with the showing their faces, yeah, and

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I'm not showing mine. It just felt a little like

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I'm getting all the benefits without being a part of

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the team. Yeah, and I like that feeling of like

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the camaraderie and like, you know, I used to be

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in the union, like carrying the bena, being on the

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posts and stuff, and I love that feeling of like,

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you know, rolling it together, like sharing, like taking the

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blows together. So I kind of didn't want to just

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be taking the cream off the top. So I felt

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good to get involved as well.

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Speaker 2: I love that. And there's something you know, the adult

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industry is very much like a small community and like

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a family, and I think people don't really see it

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until they get into it. And I think part of

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that is because it is sort of there is a

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little bit of that us against them mentality, right because

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of the stigma, because of the blows that are dealt

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against us, like you mentioned, And so I appreciate that

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you felt like I want to be in there, like

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in the trenches with everybody else, you know what I mean, Like,

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if I'm going to benefit from this, I want to also,

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like you know, to put the skin in the game.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, Literally, you also have a lovely face,

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Like why wouldn't you want to show it?

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Speaker 3: People kept saying that to me. They're like, they show up,

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shoot with me. I hadn't seen me before, and they're like, oh, wow,

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you're actually cute. I'm like, oh, thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know right, because that's the fear, right that

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you're just like really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Frankenstein's monster in the face.

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Speaker 2: So your career really started when a man on the

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street interview about how much money you made went viral.

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Where were you when the interview happened and how did

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that go down?

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Speaker 3: So I was in Brisbane in Australia and it was

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this I'd seen them on TikTok before, this company called

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get Ahead, like a job finding app, and I knew

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what they'd asked and the questions are what do you

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do and how much money do you make? And I

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was walking down the street like running errands that day

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and I saw them and I was like, oh, you know,

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I'm doing social media a bit now, but I like

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passed them by and like I don't want to bother them.

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That's kind of cringe to like go up to them

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and say something, and that they were interviewing someone kept

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running errand a few minutes later, I'm welcome past them again.

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They had no one and I just walked up to

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them like, hey, I have a pretty cool job if

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you want to ask me about it, No screening questions, stuffing.

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They're like, yep, all right, camera's rolling, let's do it.

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And first I dodged the question about how much money

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do you make? If you watch the interview, they cliped

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that together from a bit at the end. But you know,

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I'm glad I did it because that went insanely viral.

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Yeah and yeah, it just blew me up. Was at

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that moment in my career was the most money I'd

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made in like a week. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, so how much was it?

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Speaker 3: So I said in the interview, I'm making forty to

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eighty thousand dollars a week. Month. Yeah, month, month, Yeah,

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And I.

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Speaker 2: Thought you were going to say a week and I

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was going to impress, but it's a month. Oh my god,

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get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Change jump change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But it's gone up since then as well a lot.

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And I'm like, I'm sure I've had a couple of

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viral moments since then, but yeah, No, it was an

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insane period of time in my life because all of

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a sudden, like Cardi b retweeted it, but Rolling Stone

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reached out to interview me along with Daily Beast and

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all the major Australian newspapers reached out. I ended up

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getting like a centerfold spread in the Australian Newspaper, which

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is like a pretty big newspaper and funnily enough, it's

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like a conservative newspaper. And they ran like a four

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page story on the girth Master pictures of me and everything.

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Speaker 2: Wow, how did that feel?

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Speaker 3: Totally surreal, like all of a sudden, like I was

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the topic of Twitter for three days. Yeah, I was

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the most googled person at the time. I think if

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you clicked the Google search bar, girth Master popped up. Yeah,

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like without typing anything. And it just it was totally surreal.

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And all the conversation around me was you shouldn't do it.

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But I'm searching myself on Twitter and reading every word

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written about me, and.

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Speaker 2: It's was there some stuff in there that was hard

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to read, like.

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Speaker 3: Not really know. Everyone was really nice to me, Like

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there were a couple like, of course there's a few critics.

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You know, people are saying things like if you look

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at like the Rolling Stone Articles comments section, it's you know,

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you choose guy to be the face of sex work

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and blah blah, blah, which are valid criticisms, you know

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what I mean, Like, I do have it much easier

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than a lot of the women in terms of like

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the level of scrutiny that I face and the comparison.

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I You're the reason I was comfortable saying how much

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money I made was because Kazumi did it and I

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saw it go viral for her. I was like, all right, well,

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Kazumi did it. It was good for her. I'll do the

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same thing. If you compare the feedback in the comment

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sections from Kazumi doing it to me doing it, it's

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night and day. I'm getting all this praise and like

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living every guy's dream. She was getting like constant hate

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for talking about much money she makes. Yeah, there is

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a definite double standard there, I think, Yeah, so that's

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reading those comments, I guess not hard to read because

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like I understand that it's frustrating and it's a valid

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criticism to make, so like, yeah, I understand, but hopefully

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the way that I try to do it, And like,

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but I spoke to CONSUMEI about exactly that. I'm like

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crazy to see how much hate you got and I'm

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getting praise, And she was like, well, it's good to

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see somebody getting the praise and like hopefully that helps

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to normalize that kind of thing, you know, like maybe

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next time they'll see that I did it, they're not

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going to hate women for doing it. Yeah, if someone's

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going to someone has to get I don't know, I

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don't know what I'm trying to say here, but like.

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Speaker 2: No, I totally understand. I Mean, the thing is is that,

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like it takes people like Kazumi who's willing to go

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out there and put themselves out there and take the

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criticism to move the needle, you know, like the opinion

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of society doesn't change overy night. Yeah, slowly.

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Speaker 3: I've been lucky to get things like the Rolling Stone

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straight newspaper, like brand deals and things like that, and maybe,

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you know, and probably definitely I'm getting these opportunities because

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I'm a straight white man that looks like the guys

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that are making these decisions on what to do. But hopefully,

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if I do a good job at it, I'm just

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going to be the first sex worker and I kind

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of keep the door open for other people to get

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those opportunities. Like next time, if they consider doing it

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with the female, they'll think, oh, you know, we had

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that guy that time and it went well, everything was

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good there, So we'll continue doing deals with sex workers.

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Speaker 2: The thing is like, just because is like you know,

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women face like vitriol and face that kind of negative feedback.

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Doesn't mean that like you don't get to enjoy like

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positive feedback, you know what I mean, Like it's not

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your fault that like society is misogynistic, you know what

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I mean, Like you're not a misogynist. It's just like

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the way that it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to tend on opportunities I'm getting

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beause it's good for my career. Yeah, I don't think

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it would help anybody else's career if I turn down

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these opportunities.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody faults you for it.

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Speaker 3: As the you know, half dozen people on Twitter that

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I find when I such my name, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there's always going to be there's

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always going to be angry people out there, And of

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course those are the comments that we remember, right, and

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that's the stuff that we internalize. The you know, you

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get one hundred positive comments and you get one negative one,

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and it's the negative one that we focus on. It's

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human nature, and that's why I never read the comments,

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so you can say whatever you want about me. Fuck you,

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I don't read it, okay. So Ben, and your goal

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going into the industry was to shoot with Angela White,

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which feels like a no brainer, right, fellow Azsie. How

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did that go?

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Speaker 3: It went so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't like when she followed me and message like

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I messaged her. I couldn't believe it, Like that is

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the biggest goal I had. And yeah, we line up

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a shoot date and it went really well. Like I

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I was definitely nervous at the time. If you watched

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the video, like I start off completely soft because I'm

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like panicked. Yeah, and then as soon as it started

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getting hard, I could feel the blood rushing from my

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head to like where it needed to be. Yeah, just

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a wave of relief. And the scene went really well.

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It was like fifty minutes long. We ended up winning

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an AVN for it as well. It was awesome. Yeah,

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it was really cool that Angela had seen a lot

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of my content before, you know, she did her homework

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on me before before we planned to shoot, and I suggested,

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you know, we can get a camera man if you want,

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because I'm thinking the less pressure on me to get

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the angles and the lighting and stuff the better. And

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she said, no, I've seen your work. I like it.

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I trust you to shoot it and do a good job.

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It'll sell well, am I only fans. So that was

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a huge vert of confidence and I like that. And yeah,

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now I've shut with her three times. We did that

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scene and then two threesomes.

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Speaker 2: She's lovely, isn't she.

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Speaker 3: She's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like I'm It's funny sometimes I joke about

475
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,279
this show. She's just called I love that I love

476
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,839
Angela White show because I'm such a big fan of hers.

477
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,839
She is one of those people who's just become like

478
00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:29,960
obviously enormously famous, and it hasn't changed her personality, like

479
00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:36,680
at all. She's still like the same person, incredibly like humble, personable,

480
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,480
you know, treats everybody on set with like respect and

481
00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:44,880
you know, down to like the lowest PA. She's you know, I.

482
00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 3: Find she's on set. It's like she's team captain, yes,

483
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,319
and she's just plugged in. She knows what's about to happen,

484
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,039
what she needs to do to help in the situation,

485
00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:55,599
what to say to the right person, and just things

486
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,200
just flow when she's around. It's great, And every time

487
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,680
we've shot it, I've like asked, like I can pick

488
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,319
a brain afterwards, and she'll hang out for a half

489
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,440
hour or more, just answering any questions I have, honestly,

490
00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:08,279
and yeah, really friendly.

491
00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a fantastic performer. She's just one of those

492
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,200
people that you can really tell isn't faking it, you

493
00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:17,480
know what I mean, Like when it comes to the sex,

494
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,960
like she do, Like I can just see it click

495
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,160
on her brain. She just devours you with her eyes

496
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,319
like she loves sex.

497
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's genuine, enthusiastic.

498
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,559
Speaker 2: Genuine, and it's so clear and it's such a joy

499
00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:32,279
to shoot someone like that. I mean, there's nothing better

500
00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:35,440
than working with someone who really loves their job. And

501
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,920
it's just like I mean, she's just like perfect in

502
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,839
every way. So I feel like there's no one's ever

503
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,839
had a bad scene with her.

504
00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, how could you? Yeah, she brings out the

505
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:44,799
best in everyone.

506
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. So next on the I Love Angela White Show.

507
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,559
What's my next question? So, how do you handle privacy

508
00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,759
and boundaries with being such a recognizable fissurey Right now?

509
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: It's strange because it's coming so fast It kind of

510
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,599
depends where I am, like how often I recognized, you know,

511
00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:03,640
when I'm at home back in Australia in my city,

512
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,359
Like if I go out safe to assume that most

513
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,039
people my age would know who I am. But as

514
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,319
far as boundaries go, like I love when people come

515
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,359
up to me and say get a I'll get a

516
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,000
picture with them, chat for a minute. It can be

517
00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:18,359
hard when people are drunk and they don't understand boundaries.

518
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,799
You have to be firm and you know, give them

519
00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:24,759
a handshake, say nice to meet you, and like turn

520
00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:28,839
away from them. But yeah, I find people are generally

521
00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:31,880
respectful and I don't I'm not involved in any drama.

522
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,440
I don't do anything controversial and that gives me a

523
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,960
peace of mind that you know, I don't really have

524
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,960
anybody out there trying to hurt me. Yeah, I just

525
00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,000
be polite but firm if I need to be. Yeah,

526
00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:44,279
and I haven't had any issues yet.

527
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,279
Speaker 2: You seem like a pretty down to earth guy. And

528
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,440
from what I've seen of you online, like you still

529
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,839
have a lot of like your friends from school, and

530
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,000
you seem to have a very strong like family and

531
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,640
home base that you really like to return to.

532
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm close with my family like it's and

533
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,079
my family is really close, Like my grandma and grandpa

534
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,000
did a really good job keeping everyone tight, kit and

535
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,599
you know, my auntie's and uncles do the same with

536
00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:09,079
their kids, and we're all just it's a good family unit.

537
00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:11,359
And my close friend's back home and mostly my boys

538
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,119
from high school or like you know, a few new

539
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,720
people since then, but yeah, just good solid people that

540
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:18,599
I can trust and I know they're good people.

541
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: So now you recently did a mainstream campaign back in Australia,

542
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:25,839
right for like a space.

543
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:26,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mingle Seasoning.

544
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,039
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that.

545
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was awesome. I got an email one days

546
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,119
because I've been looking to do a few brand deals

547
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,559
and I did one with a condom company in Australia

548
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,359
and then yeah, Mingle season He reached out to me

549
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,240
and asked if I wanted to be a part of

550
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,160
their new campaign they're doing. Yeah, they TV, I say,

551
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,359
in Australia right now, there's a TV commercial, billboards like

552
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,319
I'm on the radio, a whole bunch of online articles

553
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,599
all for being the chief satisfaction officer for Mingle Seasoning.

554
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,119
I was on the Today Show like the Morning Today

555
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,640
show doing like a cooking show with them.

556
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that must have been surreal.

557
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:04,599
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. Like my friend's girlfriend was in the dentist

558
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,279
chair and she saw me on the TV like above

559
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,880
the dentist and I had someone on my Instagram they

560
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,240
saw they were in prison and saw me on the

561
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,319
prison TV. And then when they got out, they sent

562
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,440
me a message like I saw you on TV in prison.

563
00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: Now do you get like crazy fan mail and dms? Now?

564
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have Like message request folder is like

565
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:27,160
to be avoided. Yes, it's full of butthole picks, dick picks,

566
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:31,799
unsolicited pictures of people's wives. Like it's just random weird stuff.

567
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,279
Speaker 2: What is like some of the craziest messages that you've gotten?

568
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:38,839
Speaker 3: Oh? I had one fan bless us whole. She'd sketch

569
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,039
me like every day she had sketch books full of

570
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,119
sketches of me and like, you know, pages and pages

571
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,960
of my eyes. And then one day she sketched like

572
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,519
an entire song and every page had one line from

573
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,400
the song with us acting out what the lyrics in

574
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,160
the song were saying, and like blessed us all, Like

575
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240
she's such a sweetheart. But I had to kind of

576
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:02,200
be like it's getting a little parasocial heel, like I

577
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,559
don't know where this is going, but I don't want

578
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,440
to go too far because but it was it was

579
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,440
really sweet. I loved it.

580
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:09,519
Speaker 2: Have you ever met her like at a convention?

581
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: No, this is like a fan on OnlyFans. Wow, she

582
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:14,720
may meet me one day at a convention or something.

583
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, I mean sometimes you it's hard to

584
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,559
set those bound.

585
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is fun and it is like kind

586
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,680
of funny as well, but I don't want it to

587
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,079
get too.

588
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: Far and yeah, yeah, yeah, how do how do you

589
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,680
set those boundaries? Because I've I've had to deal with

590
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,400
that too or sometimes it gets to a point where

591
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,519
you're like, well, yeah.

592
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: Well I don't shy away from you know, reminding my

593
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,960
fans that like of the dynamic, Like I've made videos

594
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,440
on TikTok, like I made one last week saying like,

595
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,079
if you find yourself getting in a parasocial relationship with me,

596
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,160
just remind yourself I'm a thirty one year old guy

597
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,319
making tiktoks. Like You'll get over it pretty quick about

598
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,319
all of that. But yeah, you know, and I try

599
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,359
not to lean too much into like I don't know,

600
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,359
pretending to be in relationships with fans and stuff like that,

601
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,279
it's just not really my vibe. I feel if it's

602
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:01,640
going to make me feel bad, I don't want to

603
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,920
do it for money, So I'm like, yeah, I'm happy

604
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,079
to reinforce a boundary, even if it means losing a

605
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,880
little bit income.

606
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: Right right now, you're in your single right yeah, and

607
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,200
that feels like the right move for you right now.

608
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: I'd say so definitely.

609
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, when do you are you somebody who wants

610
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,160
to get married and have a family later on in life?

611
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: I think one day? Yeah, Like where I am in

612
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,240
life right now, Like porn career is going great. Living

613
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,640
in La feels like I got like the world of

614
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,400
my feet right now, and introducing like a relationship dynamic

615
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,400
to my life right now would kind of complicate things

616
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,319
and maybe hold me back in some way. I'd kind

617
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,000
of prefer to just stay single, not break hearts, focus

618
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:44,039
on work, have as much fun as I can wile

619
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:48,200
I'm in La, disappear back to Australia and settle down

620
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,200
a bit once I'm back home.

621
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: Do you think that it would be hard to like

622
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,160
date the way I look at.

623
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: It, like because I decided this when I started doing porn.

624
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:59,119
I realized that there's a large demographic of people that

625
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,799
won't date me because I did porn. But I'm kind

626
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:04,039
of doing myself a favor in that I don't want

627
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:05,440
to date those people if they'll have an issue with

628
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,839
someone that does porn, so I've done it. Otherwise I'll compromise,

629
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,599
like get them out of the dating pool. I did

630
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:16,480
myself a favor, So I don't know. It's hard to

631
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:19,599
not date because like, dates are fun. I love women

632
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,880
going out for drinks and stuff like that. And then

633
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,400
you know, how do you reinforce Like I can't do

634
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,440
anything serious right now, but feelings inevitably get involved.

635
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: Right.

636
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: It's tough.

637
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,839
Speaker 2: It's complicated.

638
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,759
Speaker 3: It's hard because you want to be I want to

639
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,680
be sweet and nice and you know, I have fun

640
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,559
with people. But I don't know, it's a tricky situation

641
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:39,119
to navigate.

642
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:42,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then also have to yes at those boundaries.

643
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:42,720
That's really hard.

644
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so glad.

645
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: I am no longer in the dating pool. It's oh

646
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:51,200
my god, those were those days were rough? Absolutely, do

647
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,799
you ever plan on shooting any kind of studio porn?

648
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Are you going to only stick with like your own content.

649
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean doing my own content is great, and

650
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,599
I've kind of ticked every box that i wanted to

651
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,440
chick shooting my own content. I'm not opposed to doing

652
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,200
some studio porn. I think it could be fun.

653
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Are there potential offers on the horizon? Maybe you just

654
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,359
give me a look that suggests that there may be

655
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,799
something coming your way.

656
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,599
Speaker 3: I mean there's been some talks, Okay, some discussion.

657
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: H interesting. Just saw you get the porn have awards.

658
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,240
That means, okay, what does a typical day for you

659
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:33,599
look like if you're not shooting content Right now?

660
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,839
Speaker 3: It's chaos because I'm trying to furnish an entire apartment

661
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,599
and sort everything out that you need to sort out

662
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,039
when you move to a new country, you know there's

663
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,960
a lot to do. But typically, like once I'm settled in,

664
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,240
if I have nothing to do, not doing much, chilling

665
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,559
on the couch, play a bit of PlayStation, watch a movie.

666
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:53,839
I've always got something about it. I can't be like

667
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,000
idle for too long, Like I'll always have my laptop

668
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,720
on me chatting to fans stuff like that. But as

669
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:01,519
little was possible, like if I can get away with

670
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:03,240
doing nothing for a day. I will one d per.

671
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,839
Speaker 2: Do you have, like any sports or gym time or

672
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,920
anything like that to.

673
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Try to get again? When I'm not super busy, try

674
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:10,960
to get to the gym four or five days a week,

675
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:13,519
you know, take care of myself in that way. Not

676
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:17,640
a big sports guy, but yeah, just going to the gym, exercising,

677
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,319
doing a hike or something. It's always nice.

678
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: Obviously, now we're in LA. What are some of the

679
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,480
biggest differences between LA and Australia, Like any massive culture

680
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:26,319
shocks here.

681
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,759
Speaker 3: The tipping thing is strange to me and I still

682
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,359
don't know how to navigate it. Yes, because I could

683
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,920
go to the bathroom and there's a guy handing you

684
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,559
paper towels to dry your hands with, like you tip

685
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,519
him Like my hands are wet. I got to get

686
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:40,759
my wallet out. I just washed him and I'm touching money.

687
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160
That's true. You meant to tip your hairdresser. I didn't.

688
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960
I went to a hairdresser three times, didn't tip them,

689
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,319
and they stopped returning my phone calls. It turns that

690
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,599
I just I was stiffing them on payment. I didn't

691
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,039
They had to tip the hairdresser. I was already paying

692
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:54,480
for the haircut. I didn't they had to pay for

693
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,359
the tip as well. Tipping is a big one. I

694
00:29:57,359 --> 00:29:57,920
don't get it.

695
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and since COVID, they added like the tipping

696
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:05,880
thing to just going to get coffee, yeah, or going

697
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,759
to like the store coffee, Like, would you like to

698
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:12,039
add a tip? And it's like and it's built into

699
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,720
the things, and you literally have to deny the tip, yeah,

700
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,119
to like any in the way.

701
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,799
Speaker 3: They turn it around like, oh, just a couple questions

702
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,319
on the screen and they walk away. And then you

703
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:22,799
have to make your own. All they do is pour

704
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:24,039
it in the cup and then you go to the

705
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:26,200
little station and make your own coffee. You add the

706
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,599
milk and the sugar, and I'm doing more work than

707
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:28,880
you are.

708
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, that is one hundred percent new thing, and

709
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,880
that started in COVID.

710
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: And when you have to add like the price, isn't

711
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,559
the price Like the price on the shelf is a dollar, Yeah,

712
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:40,799
you go to the register, register it's a dollar fourteen

713
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,799
or a dollar seven whatever it is, Like, do.

714
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:44,079
Speaker 2: You guys not have sales tax?

715
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: No, we do, but it's built into the price, so

716
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,880
it's ten dollars. Do you have ten dollar note? That's it.

717
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,759
I think like the rest of the world is like that.

718
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,960
That America just adds money. The price isn't the price

719
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,839
because then you have to add the tax and the tip.

720
00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:59,240
And in my head as well, they exchange rate. When

721
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,079
I'm spending Australia money, Like if something's ten dollars, it's

722
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:03,759
like twenty five Australian dollars.

723
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: What you do when you're in a hotel and you

724
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,240
get room service and then they add like the room service,

725
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:10,759
like delivery fee.

726
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: Service fee at hotels as well, I think the resort

727
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,119
fee or whatever it is. Like I paid, you know,

728
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,680
one hundred dollars a night, and then I get to

729
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:18,640
the hotel and we have a fifty dollars a day

730
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,720
resort fee.

731
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: That's part of the price. Put it in the price.

732
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,799
Speaker 3: Why am I paying extra fees on everything?

733
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: It's because everyone in this country, especially in la is

734
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,480
full of shit. We're not any money anything.

735
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything has extra fees with it, Like you can't

736
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,680
do anything with that, you can't leave your house. So

737
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:40,839
that's spending money somehow.

738
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: Hey, No, it's crazy.

739
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, culturally, I mean, yeah, that's that's the biggest thing.

740
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,839
The tipping is what I'm like most unsure about. I

741
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,559
love that you can turn right on red lights here.

742
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,839
Love that about America.

743
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: I remember actually because I'm so used to the tipping thing.

744
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640
I remember going to England one year and I left

745
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
a tip for the drinks. Go into the bar and

746
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,440
I left a tip for the drink on the bar,

747
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,200
and I remember leaving and the bartender like, chase me out.

748
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,759
They're like, oh, you left your money on the counter,

749
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:07,279
And I was like.

750
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: I see people that work in restaurants in the stray

751
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:12,119
love Americans because they tip as well. Yeah, no one

752
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,920
else tips, but the Americans are tipping like free money.

753
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I know.

754
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,559
Speaker 2: And when it's so funny because I know that when

755
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:19,920
I go to other countries and I know that people

756
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,160
don't tip, I still tip, yeah, because I feel so guilty.

757
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: I mean, the US doll is pretty good right now, and.

758
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm just like I know that, like people don't do it,

759
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,799
but like if I don't tip, it's like ingrained me.

760
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,079
Now it's like I have to.

761
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they getting a wage. They good?

762
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: So that turning on red lights? What about the people?

763
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,279
Speaker 3: The people uh, surprisingly friendly in America, Like what you

764
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,200
see on the news. You know, you don't expect Americans

765
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,240
to be normal, and you come out here and Americans

766
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,319
are actually pretty normal. But then you do have those wdos,

767
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,480
like the ones that growing up, you see Americans on

768
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,880
TV and it's like point to you know, England on

769
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,799
a map and they can't do it. Like the crazy

770
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,799
videos from Walmart's of people just oh the people are

771
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,960
creature Walmart. Yeah, Like there's those kind of videos of

772
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,200
like genuine insane people.

773
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: You're like, that is it? Have you been to Middle America?

774
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:14,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like when you see that from outside, you're like,

775
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,599
that's just Hollywood stuff. Like no one's really like that. Yeah,

776
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Like they're not real people. And you go to Walmart

777
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,039
and you're like, oh my god, they are actually real

778
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:24,400
people like that. It's not made up there everywhere. So

779
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,119
the spectrum of people in America, like the way how

780
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,000
far to the crazy scale people go in America is interesting.

781
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:32,039
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.

782
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, those people are real.

783
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,079
Speaker 2: Is a culture show, Yeah, it is. It's funny because

784
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,160
like you know, here in La because all the beautiful

785
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680
people come here, right, you walk around and you're like

786
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,400
a six right, you know, I'm like I'm like a

787
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,839
month a six, and I go to some other state

788
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,880
and I'm just like, I'm a fucking damn yeah.

789
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: You know.

790
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,599
Speaker 3: Crazy thing to me about dating in LA is like

791
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,119
you're chatting to a girl and she'll say something crazy

792
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440
like you know, she used to live in Miami. I'm like, oh,

793
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,279
what you're doing, and she'll names are up like some

794
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,079
you know, like NFL player or famous musicians. She's like, oh,

795
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:08,519
I used to date him for a while, Like you

796
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,039
dated like an NFL player and now you're talking to

797
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:16,000
me like my competition is like famous musicians and sports

798
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:17,039
people and actors.

799
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, but the size of a wine bottle.

800
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's true.

801
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: They got crazy with you. Yeah yeah, I was.

802
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,159
Speaker 3: Like at dinner with the girl and I just like

803
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,039
at a bar and like accidentally in a peripheral vision

804
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,480
called like her Instagram dms just old blue ticks like

805
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,920
famous people. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. My competition in

806
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,800
Australia was local dudes.

807
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,559
Speaker 2: So what is the ratio of like male fans to

808
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,960
female fans By the way, because you know, generally like

809
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,280
men consume more important than women do. But obviously you're

810
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,639
a man, so like, yeah, so much more men.

811
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,079
Speaker 3: My demographics changed over time. Initially it was mostly men

812
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:06,800
because I used to use Twitter and Reddit to market

813
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,760
myself and that's mostly men on the platforms. And then

814
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
I started using a lot more TikTok on Instagram and

815
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,280
since then, my I say, my fan base is about

816
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,199
sixty percent women really, so like a fair few women. Yeah,

817
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,519
like men of the biggest consumers of porn for sure. Yeah,

818
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:22,400
but I've found as well a lot of women. It'll

819
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,159
be the first time they subscribe to porn and it's

820
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,800
mine and it's like they found me on TikTok and

821
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,000
I picked their interests and they've come across interesting.

822
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: What are the things that they say to you? Like,

823
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,599
is it just like do they are they attracted to

824
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,119
your penis size? Do they come for the deck? But

825
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:40,480
then they stay for the personality.

826
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: I think at least what they say is they come

827
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,360
for the personality. They get a lot of comments they

828
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,400
stay for the deck. So's I get a lot of

829
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,840
comments on my TikTok as well that they've never seen

830
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,440
my poor and they just like watching my videos and

831
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,760
the way I talk, which is like really cute and wholesome.

832
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:57,519
They've just never gone to Twitter, never gone to OnlyFans

833
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:00,719
and seen what I do. But then I've videos as well,

834
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,199
Like as my styles developed, you know, initially I wasn't

835
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:06,000
showing my face and all the focuses on my deck,

836
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,519
very like male gaze type porn. You know, I was

837
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,519
inspired by like Mike Adriano and Dread and those kind

838
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:15,239
of camera angles. And then as my I kind of

839
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,320
developed more of my own style, started showing my face,

840
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,199
but you know, my face and the scenes a lot,

841
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:22,880
and just I don't know, my focus kind of shifted

842
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,559
to just making like still good porn. My Dick's still

843
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:29,119
like the central focus, but also showing like the two

844
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:31,079
of us enjoying ourselves and the connection and that kind

845
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,400
of thing. I found a lot of women enjoy that. Yes,

846
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:37,119
so I've kind of I think my porn appeals to

847
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:40,239
men and women kind of equally. You know, anybody can

848
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,559
get something out of it. And luckily it's just a

849
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:46,239
style of porn that I've come to enjoy making. So yeah, yeah,

850
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,400
just make the porn that I like to watch and

851
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,360
it resonates with people.

852
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:53,599
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, women definitely really like that,

853
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:54,280
that connection.

854
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:57,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they like seeing your faces and seeing how you interact, yes,

855
00:36:57,679 --> 00:36:58,480
and all that kind of thing.

856
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,079
Speaker 2: And that's why they also generally like kind of like

857
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,480
more of a story or a narrative. They like to

858
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,920
know like why is this happening? Like why is this happening?

859
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,679
What's where men are more visually driven?

860
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, you haven't about to start doing some like awny

861
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,119
book reading type videos as well. I'm excited for that.

862
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,559
Oh so you get a lot of people on TikTok

863
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:20,519
that you know, they're into the smutty books, which is

864
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:21,480
a huge thing right now.

865
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:22,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

866
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,199
Speaker 3: So I've got a plan to like make a new

867
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,039
page and it's going to be just me, you know,

868
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,679
in a cool little setting reading a book like video

869
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,280
as well. Things are going to get steamy. I'll do

870
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,559
a little show as I'm reading whatever it is.

871
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:35,679
Speaker 2: Nice.

872
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: I think they'll enjoy it.

873
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,039
Speaker 2: Do you have any books or eerotic literature in particular

874
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:40,800
that you're going to read?

875
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna leave it up to them. Do you

876
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:44,480
know what do they want to see me read? Okay,

877
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:45,960
I don't want to do anything too crazy because a

878
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,880
lot of those books.

879
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: Are Yeah, the Yellow wil a little while.

880
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the book talk people like me because I'm

881
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,960
like the proportions of the people in the books.

882
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, tall guy with a.

883
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,599
Speaker 3: Comically big dick. Every time there's a video and TikTok,

884
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,800
if someone talking about like they're reading the size of

885
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,079
the dick in the book, it's like she couldn't fit

886
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,760
two hands around it. I get tagged in the comments

887
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,679
every time, like, look at his diick, this is the

888
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:11,519
one they're talking about.

889
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,519
Speaker 2: So they actually people do this on TikTok. TikTok, let's

890
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:14,800
that fly.

891
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they'll kind of like they'll read the passage

892
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,320
of the book, like they won't say dick, but they'll mention,

893
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,320
like they'll refer to it, and they'll be grabbing objects

894
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,559
to try to see like how big it would be. Yeah.

895
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,199
Speaker 2: So there's like a whole like like series on TikTok

896
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,039
about like reading erotic literature.

897
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,039
Speaker 3: Oh no, TikTok won't let me do that. I'm gonna

898
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,920
do it on a separate platform, Okay, but you can

899
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,639
talk about you know, direct traffic from TikTok to the.

900
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,599
Speaker 2: Platform and using ti talk's so tricky, they're so like

901
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,280
it's funny. Instagram lets you get away with a lot

902
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,679
more now, Yeah, I think.

903
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: People nake it on Instagram, like there's like a breastfeeding

904
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,639
loophole and girls just had their naked hits out. Yeah,

905
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:57,639
with like fake babies. There's a body point.

906
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: The body paint.

907
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 4: I was going to say that. And the lips, Yes,

908
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:04,039
I was the video that you're talking about, And I

909
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:08,760
was like, how how this incredible lips out in the breeze.

910
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: Lips out in the breeze with the view behind her. Yeah,

911
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,800
I know exactly which one you're talking about, And I'm like,

912
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,400
how was this?

913
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

914
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: Crazy?

915
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 3: Well, that was that time Tommy Lee uploaded a dick

916
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,039
pic and it was up for like eight hours or

917
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,760
something on his Instagram story. It's full dick.

918
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Picow damn Instagram. I mean, like, make up your mind.

919
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:30,480
Can we do it or not?

920
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: Like you know, TikTok, a swift with it had an

921
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,880
account with like two hundred thousand followers get banned just

922
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,519
like out of the blue night warnings just taken down.

923
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:41,199
Speaker 2: Do you know why did they give you a reason?

924
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: I've got a theory, but I mean, yeah, I don't

925
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,039
think it was anything I persced on TikTok. It was

926
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,800
you know, there's people that look in the shadows.

927
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, yeah, there's always those people.

928
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,559
Speaker 3: A wording you you internet mafia that want the money.

929
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,559
Speaker 2: Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, As

930
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,519
a straight guy who doesn't do gay for pay, what

931
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,599
kind of content do you do to you appeal to

932
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,880
your gay audience or do you just make the content

933
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,119
and they just come. You build it and they will come.

934
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: I build it and they come again. My view on

935
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,880
it is, I only want to make content that I

936
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,239
think looks good because if I know it looks good,

937
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,480
then I'm confident in what I'm doing. If I'm doing

938
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,920
things because I think it's what the audience wants, then

939
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,960
it's just guesswork and I don't know what I'm doing.

940
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,960
Does it look good? Is it not? I don't know

941
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,440
anything about foot fetishes or those kind of things, So

942
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,360
I don't do that kind of content that much unless

943
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,639
it's like a request and they're paying specifically for it.

944
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,639
But I just make content that I think looks good

945
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,920
and what I've done, Like I was saying, I was

946
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,280
always an exhibitionist, always showing myself off pictures of my

947
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,280
dick and whatever. Just like by myself. I have a

948
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,159
second only fans page. That's just solo content. So if

949
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:51,440
guys don't want to see me with girls, they go

950
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,480
there and it's just a content that I take as

951
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,119
I would back in the day and post to Twitter.

952
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,119
But now I have this platform to upload it too,

953
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,159
because I don't want to spare my Twitter page with

954
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:03,519
just dick pics every other day. Probably have my reach

955
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:06,000
on there, but yeah, I have the solo page. I

956
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:09,480
just post whatever I want, jerk off videos, pictures, and

957
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:11,360
that's I think that one, as well as about sixty

958
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,199
forty Men and Women becausetends that a lot of women

959
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,119
like watching dudes jerk off and enjoy themselves log as,

960
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,199
your faces in it, and you're making noise, they're into it.

961
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: I know. I hate the videos where the guys don't

962
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,400
make noise. That always makes me sad. I want to

963
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,639
hear the guy. I actually don't want to know.

964
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,559
Speaker 3: It's strange to learn because every guy starts jerking off

965
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,440
in complete silence in their bedroom, so the family doesn't hear.

966
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,440
So like, you're just women are probably the same, but

967
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,440
you're just like a solo like, yeah, you can come

968
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,480
like a ninja dead sign like, so you kin't have

969
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:41,159
to learn to like make the noises comfortable and confident

970
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,280
in doing it. Yeah, but it is fun when you do. Yes,

971
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,239
I had that solo page, although I do have a

972
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,880
lot of gay fans that are subscribed to my collaboration

973
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,840
page and they say, like, I'm the only straight porn

974
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,679
they'll watch. At the horn Hub Awards, someone came up

975
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,039
to me. They said, of have a twink army because

976
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,400
all these like, you know, twink gay guys, they just

977
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,280
love my content, like solo or not. They're like coming

978
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,679
up to me and Yeah, I.

979
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: Love Why that's so funny. Was it Liam who told

980
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,000
you that?

981
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, I love Liam.

982
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:12,639
Speaker 2: He is great.

983
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,639
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was him.

984
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like something you'd say. What do you

985
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,280
think there's the biggest misconception people have about sex work.

986
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,119
Speaker 3: I think people don't realize how much it's changed in

987
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,320
the last twenty years. You may be able to speak

988
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,440
more in it than I can, but I I know

989
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,159
growing up and like I'd read all the interviews and

990
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,519
see them behind the scenes of you know, as much

991
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:34,480
as I could see behind the scenes of porn sets

992
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:38,119
when I was, you know, a teenager. I'm reading interviews

993
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:40,920
with like Shuter stylis and people like that. I think,

994
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,719
correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to have

995
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,280
changed a lot since those days because you hear the

996
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,079
stories significantly, and I didn't really know what to expect

997
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,840
coming into it. I had no idea what the industry

998
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,280
in the US was like. But I haven't seen anything

999
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,800
at all like the old stories from the old days.

1000
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,880
It seems very above board with only fans. Now people

1001
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,800
make their own money, they're in control of their own content,

1002
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,639
so there seems to be a lot less coercion and

1003
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,440
control over the performers, whereas I guess back in the

1004
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:09,000
day the money might have been less there was no

1005
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,840
other alternative besides doing what the director says. I can't

1006
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,679
speak too much on that because i'd have experience with it.

1007
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,760
But from what I've seen, everyone seems to be, you know,

1008
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,559
thriving if they want to be in control of themselves

1009
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,280
and control their own content, happy with what they're doing.

1010
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,920
There's not as much shame about it, I guess, as

1011
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,679
you might think. And also what's weird is whenever a

1012
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,599
bunch of porn stars get together, less orgies than I

1013
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:37,480
thought they'd be. It's really strange that yeah. I mean

1014
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,000
there's been a couple around, but you go to a

1015
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:43,679
party and it's just everyone's fully clothed, talking normally, like

1016
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,679
more more team than a lot of other parties have

1017
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,000
been to that aren't porn people.

1018
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: I thought there would be more orgies important, So I thought.

1019
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: Every single party would just be a big orgy. You know.

1020
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,519
It's like we got a chance to not have to

1021
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:58,639
do that, like, which we can just hang out and talk. Great.

1022
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:00,679
Speaker 2: I think it's like one of the things when like

1023
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,840
your job is sex, like you don't actually want to

1024
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,920
do it all the time, right, it's just like you're tired. Yeah, Yeah,

1025
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,320
that's funny. Yeah, I know it's that's absolutely true. I

1026
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,480
mean you hit the nail on the head with all

1027
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,800
of those observations. It's absolutely true. I think now is

1028
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,599
like the best time to get into sex work. Like, yeah,

1029
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,519
performers have more control over their career than they ever have,

1030
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,920
they're making more money, they're more respected by the brands

1031
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,400
and the studios than they ever have been.

1032
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think there's still some like the belief

1033
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,079
in the stigma that it is is the way that

1034
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:37,000
it used to be. Yeah, but it seems to have changed.

1035
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,719
A lot. I don't know if I could have got

1036
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,880
into it the way it used to be, Yeah, especially

1037
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,199
with the pay for guys being solowly back then and

1038
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,480
the last till you'd have to live, I think I

1039
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,920
would have just stayed in Australia and worked a job.

1040
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you give one piece of advice to any

1041
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:54,079
guys looking to get into the adult industry, what would

1042
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:54,280
it be.

1043
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: I got this question all the time, Like every day

1044
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,159
guys ask me how do I get in the industry?

1045
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: I get that question all the time too.

1046
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:01,519
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, you've got to love it

1047
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,079
like you've got to do it because you want to

1048
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:05,079
show off. If you're doing it just for the money,

1049
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:07,360
you're not going to last. You know, you need to

1050
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,800
want to be seen because you've got to market yourself,

1051
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,599
especially with OnlyFans. No one's going to help you market yourself.

1052
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,119
You need to be a self starter. But what I'd

1053
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:18,119
say is start taking Dick pics, learn how to make

1054
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:21,960
yourself look good, post them on Twitter, build a following

1055
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,039
of your own like Twitter is a great networking tool.

1056
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,079
It's like LinkedIn for porn. Posted Dick pics on Twitter,

1057
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,880
follow pages that post dick pics and network with them,

1058
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,960
repost their stuff, they'll repost yours. Build an audience, and

1059
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,840
then once you have an audience and you know how

1060
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,480
to make yourself look good, then you can approach if

1061
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,079
you want. If your goal is to shoot porn to

1062
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:42,719
other people, then you can approach them. They'll see you

1063
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,119
have a following of your own. You're not just trying

1064
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,199
to lead off theirs. They see that you can make

1065
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:47,960
yourself look good, so they're going to trust you to

1066
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,119
make them look good and you can kind of just

1067
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:54,119
go from there, you know, learn marketing side, pick a

1068
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:55,880
style you kind of want to shoot, how you want

1069
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,960
to present yourself, and go from there. And it's going

1070
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,599
to it is a struggle. Like I know from personal experience,

1071
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:06,559
I wasn't sure in my face. It took six to

1072
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:08,480
nine months before I got to a point where people

1073
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,079
were even starting to reach out to me. So it's

1074
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:12,800
a lot of reaching out, a lot of you know,

1075
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,079
cold DMS, sending hundreds people messages like respectfully like hey, there,

1076
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,880
hope you will would love to shoot with you sometime

1077
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,000
if you're open to it, and like leave it at that.

1078
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,880
But yeah, it is a ground you have to love

1079
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,480
it to get through the hard work at first. But

1080
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,920
there is also a shortage of guys in the industry.

1081
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,719
So if you're respectful, can make yourself look good and

1082
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,480
build an audience and market yourself, you stand a chance.

1083
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,480
Yeah for sure. Yeah, but make yourself look good. Don't

1084
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:43,320
lay in bed with the curtains, draw on a grainy

1085
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,639
dick pic with your feet in frame and dirty laundry

1086
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,639
in the corner, and then send a hundred DMS to girls.

1087
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Obviously you're just trying to have sex with them. You

1088
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,280
don't care about the content. If you do get a

1089
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,559
chance to shoot content with someone, make them look good.

1090
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Get some lighting, make sure that lighting is important. Make

1091
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,800
sure you got a trip or make the care angles

1092
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,400
look good. Do your homework because amount of times, like

1093
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:05,960
guys have started getting in the industry, they'll work with

1094
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,360
the girl I know, So I ask her like, oh,

1095
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,880
how is it shooting with such and such? We got

1096
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,280
three minutes of footage. Every other angle is just his

1097
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,480
butt cheeks. The lighting is terrible. We can't sell it.

1098
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,159
It's the way I see it is like when you

1099
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:21,239
shoot with someone, it's kind of like you're putting a

1100
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,079
billboard on each other's page. You know, there on my page,

1101
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:27,480
and it's like, this is my style, my videography, and

1102
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,880
everything's on their page, and my dick obviously on their page.

1103
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:32,880
This is my style. You're kind of cross promoting. Look

1104
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,280
at it that way, like, how do you want to

1105
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,639
come across to potential new fans and customers and make

1106
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:39,119
yourself and them look as good as you can?

1107
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: I think that's like the most thorough and well thought

1108
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920
out advice anyone has ever given.

1109
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: I get asked all the time, and I'm always looking

1110
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,800
to give advice, but the people asking for advice have

1111
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,599
never tried to start themselves. You know, it's a blank page,

1112
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,400
Like how do I do what you do? If you

1113
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,079
haven't even tried yet, you can't make it.

1114
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Also the problem is, too, is that

1115
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:02,559
a lot of guys for of all, Unfortunately, this is

1116
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:05,199
a job that a very small percentage of men can

1117
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,840
do for two reasons, Like you have to be well endowed,

1118
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,239
like fairly well in dowed. You don't have to be you.

1119
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,320
And there are some guys that are definitely not huge

1120
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,000
that do well.

1121
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,639
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name names, but there's some big

1122
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,599
games with regular sized penises.

1123
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but being able to perform, stay hard in front

1124
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,039
of people on command. Come on, These things are not easy.

1125
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a huge barrier to entry for men. Like

1126
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,880
for women, there's a market for everybody type, every shape.

1127
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,079
You don't need to get hot or anything. It's there's

1128
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:41,360
like a low barrier to entry for men. Be at

1129
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,599
least average sized penis generally, which rules out health population,

1130
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,280
be able to get it up when you want, finish

1131
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,960
when you want is ruling out a whole bunch more

1132
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,320
as well. So it's a select few people can do it.

1133
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,360
And you have to be honest with yourself. Like I

1134
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,000
remember when I started, there were a couple of times

1135
00:48:58,039 --> 00:48:59,840
where I'm shooting and I'm like I was going to

1136
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,000
come way too quick, like three minutes of sex, and

1137
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,159
I was bad at coms. I was like, all right,

1138
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,480
I have to figure this out. Is if this is

1139
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,280
a problem I'm going to have every time I can't

1140
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:09,880
get the career that I want to go to, pick

1141
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,719
a different angle or stop doing it, like different trajectory'll

1142
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,760
stop doing it all together. Be honest with yourself. Can

1143
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,320
you cut it?

1144
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1145
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,519
Speaker 3: It's not easy.

1146
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you. Those are some very thorough pieces

1147
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,599
of advice. From the growth Master. Well, thank you so

1148
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,320
much for coming on. I do have some extra questions

1149
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,400
for you for my Peatreon members, which we will do

1150
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,480
in a separate segment lovely, But for now, can you

1151
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,599
tell everybody where they can find you online? Please?

1152
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,559
Speaker 3: If you google girth Master you'll find me. Look me

1153
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:45,559
up on Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, TikTok, gethmaster dot com as

1154
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:50,000
an extra R at the end, you'll find me. I'm

1155
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:50,800
not hard to find.

1156
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: He's everywhere and you guys can find me on Instagram

1157
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,719
and Twitter at Holly Randall. Of course, if you want

1158
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,840
to watch these episodes streamed live, get access to the

1159
00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:05,920
full episode because I do have to edit some of

1160
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,159
these for my YouTube channel, go to Patreon dot com

1161
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:12,199
slash Holly Randall Unfiltered, where you will also get access

1162
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,880
to these bonus Q and a's and be able to

1163
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,360
support the podcast so that I can keep this thing rolling.

1164
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:21,719
And I appreciate you guys so so much. Thank you

1165
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,360
so much for joining us, and I will see you

1166
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,960
on the next one.

1167
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: The Patreon gets it roll around cut.

1168
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: Yes, just like your deck actually is your

1169
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: It is rare for Australians, that is, huh.