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As always, listener discretion 4 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:12.119 is advised. 5 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:20.199 We got someone or something crawling around out here? 6 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:27.039 Does a legend walk among us working in the forests 7 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:28.120 of our world? 8 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:32.119 Did you see what it was? 9 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:34.799 Was it a person or an animal? 10 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:35.799 Or I can't go? 11 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:37.880 Oh, I know that if my thunder light came on 12 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:39.960 and I get happened to glen and see this thing 13 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:41.200 running across. 14 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.799 The yard, a good fight man or something works like 15 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:44.079 a man. 16 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:44.920 I don't know what it was. 17 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:55.039 For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, 18 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:59.200 and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the 19 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.439 existence of this mysterious entity. 20 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:04.120 Jesus quite. 21 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:10.920 Hello, get the body out here? What's going to announce 22 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.959 their amc about sex? For? I don't know? 23 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:15.480 Is he announce yes? 24 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:21.920 I'm walking right out? Oh? Okay, hang on, yeah, got 25 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.120 it's bigger. Okay, what's he doing in your yarn? We're 26 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:25.760 gonna do you. 27 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:37.599 Join us as we continue into the investigation, of the 28 00:01:37.640 --> 00:02:00.400 Sasquatch Experience. Good evening, I'm Bill Curtis. No good, folks. 29 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:06.840 You're listening to The Sasquatch Experience on Monday night, March thirty. First, guys, 30 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.400 can you believe March is almost gone? 31 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.000 It's done, and we're done. 32 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.960 It is already a quarter of the way through the year. 33 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:20.159 The time is flying. Of course, speaking of flying, we 34 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.560 were just talking about Henry's flight on the way to OBC. 35 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:27.919 We're getting there. It's getting to be time, Henry m hmm. 36 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:29.599 Indeed it is. 37 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:33.240 It's Henry's one of Henry's favorite time of year, and 38 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:35.639 it's a game of Russian Roulette where he's gonna end up. 39 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.159 Will he land at the airport he's supposed to, will 40 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.520 he make it on the bus he's supposed to. Stay 41 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:44.159 tuned for more on this channel on travel Day, so 42 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:48.039 you too can find where in the US is Henry Ray? 43 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:57.560 Where in the world is Henry May near Little Rocapella. 44 00:02:57.759 --> 00:02:59.759 Well, guys, we got a good show tonight. It's been 45 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.960 a couple of weeks since our last programer we talked 46 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.479 about shooting Big Floot. We talked about justin Smea and 47 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:10.000 that scenario We're going to revisit that again soon. What 48 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.120 a great conversation we had around that And if you 49 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.599 guys get a chance check back. It's the last episode 50 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.120 we had not a subject we tackle him before, but 51 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.439 we're probably going to do it again at some point 52 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.960 in the near future. But that was the past. Today's 53 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.879 the present. We got my good friend Chuck Larson joining us. 54 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:31.159 Chuck is somebody I've rubbed elbows with at many conferences 55 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.479 and conventions. He's just an all around good dude. I 56 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.879 have a lot of fun with Chuck. He's also you know, 57 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:38.599 he usually ends up going to dinner with us, so 58 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.360 he's always there for those fiascos and let us tell 59 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:43.080 you we can eat this. 60 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:45.800 Yeah, but is he ever paid for all your dinners? 61 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:46.080 No? 62 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.280 Thank god, Yeah yeah yeah. 63 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:52.199 We would not want to do that to him because 64 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:52.960 it's a big bill. 65 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:54.680 It screws up the rotation. 66 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:58.879 Rotation. But Chuck, thanks for taking the time. We know 67 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.199 your traveling. Thanks for taking the time and coming on 68 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:01.879 with us tonight. 69 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.319 It was my pleasure. Thanks for having me on. Sewan. 70 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:06.879 Good to see you guys, and that will be you 71 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:08.159 got you got you'all going. 72 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.199 I'm gonna yeah, we're all gonna be there, including Matt, 73 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.439 who can't be with us tonight because he's suffering a 74 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:16.680 bit of laryngitis. 75 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:22.600 So yeah, that was on the on that uh pas 76 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:27.279 quity a small Town Monsters thing we did. He did 77 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:28.560 a little cameo on there. 78 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:33.600 Yeah, right, yep, Matt, Yeah, we're going to talk about that, Chuck, 79 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.680 because actually, you know, you're the One thing I love 80 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:41.199 about the Small Town Monsters UH programs is that they 81 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.959 put on a lot of researchers that folks aren't too 82 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:48.000 familiar with. And uh, I found your segment on the 83 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:51.720 episode really interesting because I didn't know how you got 84 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.720 into this, and I didn't know you had a sighting 85 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.160 of something until I watched that episode. So that was 86 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.360 so tell us a little bit about how you got 87 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.160 involved with and then we can go into your sightings. 88 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.160 All right, cool? Well, all right, so I how I 89 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.199 got involved? Well, I've always been interested in Bigfoot, but 90 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.279 when you live in an hour from Manhattan, you know, you 91 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:12.639 get you get a lot more a lot of the 92 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.560 stretch and uh, you know, they come up, especially in 93 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.439 my twenties, you know, I you know, big Foot was 94 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.360 like the last thing on my mind but it was 95 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.920 like in the seventies when you know, he had the 96 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.319 Search show, you had uh, you know Steve, you know, 97 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.920 six million Dollar Man with Bigfoot, you know, Andrea and 98 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.839 the Giant playing big Foot. Obviously, you know Star Wars 99 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.240 with Chewbacca. You know. See, there's always been a cool 100 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.560 you know, just kind of normally just you know, just 101 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:41.120 to be interesting, interested in. And then we had I 102 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.079 mentioned in the Small Town Monsters. There was actually an 103 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.120 incident in my county in the late seventies, mid to 104 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.560 late seventies when there was a tall Harry beef that 105 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:55.120 it decided to destroy some families rabbit pens. And that 106 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.040 kind of hit home because that's right around the time 107 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.639 when the Passion Gimmon film was was getting a little 108 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:02.480 bit of a you know, get a little bit of pressure. 109 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.040 Obviously it was ten years after the fact, but you 110 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.680 know you always saw it on like these different scientific shows, 111 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.360 and it was kind of you know, you always thought, Okay, 112 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:12.959 that's the West Coast. I don't worry about it. And 113 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.040 then this article pops up and it's you know, twenty 114 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.360 minutes from my house. I'm like, you know, so I've 115 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.160 always been interested in big but then I kind of 116 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.279 went away from it for a while, and then you know, 117 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:27.920 just recently by five six years ago, seven years ago, 118 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:32.480 I started getting back into it. And now my sighting was, 119 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:35.240 you know, you said, I can't confirm what I solved, 120 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.959 So like I said, it's just I could just use 121 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.560 some you know, deductive reasoning and just be you know, 122 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.120 like what you know, No, it's not that, it's not that, 123 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.959 So I guess it's this. I tried taking a picture, 124 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.800 but you know, it kind of duck down before it 125 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.639 could take a picture. But basically I was in this 126 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:57.759 restaurant in northwest New Jersey called walk Back In. It's 127 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.680 one of my favorite restaurants, and basically it's a beautiful, 128 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.959 rustic restaurant with like a lot of windows and overlooks 129 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.959 the pasture and then the mountain behind it or actually 130 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.399 say hell, because there's never really down. It's in New Jersey. 131 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.000 The hill behind it, the ridge is the apple is 132 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:17.040 the Appalation Trail, or you know, leads to the Appalation Trail. 133 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:20.680 So this one night I was there with my aunt 134 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:22.959 and it was in this it was in June, I remember, 135 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.439 like the first or second week in June, and it 136 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.680 was hot. You know, it was humid, hot and humid. 137 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:32.399 And I'm walking in and you know, I'm basically gonna 138 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:34.800 repeat what I said on the on the Small Time Monsters, 139 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.759 but I'm walking into this restaurant. I dropped my aunt 140 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:38.399 off so she can get a table, and I parked 141 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.759 the car because you know, the parking lot is like 142 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.240 fifteen football fields along, you know, so it's a massive. 143 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.680 So you know, I'm walking back. I'm smoking at the time, 144 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.839 cigarettes and I see these two couples, like kind of 145 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:52.519 over couples, looking at each other, and they're kind of 146 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.720 looking like kind of weird at each other, like, and 147 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.279 I'm thinking, like, oh, maybe the fighting you made, maybe 148 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.079 someone you know, walked out of the chair, you know, 149 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.680 not mad, And so I'm kind of curious, and I'm 150 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.639 sitting there and I'm watching and watching these people, and 151 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.160 all of a sudden, there's like a tree gets pushed 152 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.879 down and the woods across the street. And it was 153 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:13.759 weird because it was like it was, you know, it 154 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.199 was hot out and humid, but there was no wind, 155 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.720 there was nothing, there was no le like you there's 156 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.360 no reason why this tree should be getting you know, 157 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.600 falling down, And it was weird because the tree, like 158 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.279 the hill across the way from the restaurant, it's like 159 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:31.360 a forty five degree angle. So this tree, if it's 160 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.200 gonna fall down, gravity should fall down the hill, you 161 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.600 know what I mean. This tree fell sideways, you know, 162 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.600 it was kind of like, you know, to the side, 163 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.159 and I'm like, that's kind of weird. And then you 164 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.759 hear like these heavy footfalls going up the hill and 165 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:48.200 I'm like, well, I'm thinking, I'm like, well, if those 166 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.480 were rocks getting disturbed by this tree, would they be 167 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.320 rolling down the hill with you know, with gravity? And 168 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.519 it was it was kind of rolling going up and 169 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.600 away from the you know, the roadway. So that's what 170 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:02.440 was kind of kind of weird. And like I said, 171 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:04.519 I was just basically getting back in the big Foot way. 172 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.039 I really didn't do much, you know, I was watching 173 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.759 my Finding Bigfoot and on the TV, and you know, 174 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.720 I wasn't really doing any research. I was just kind 175 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:15.679 of enjoying myself being a fanboy. So why We're at 176 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:17.279 dinner and I'm looking over, you know, out in this 177 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.519 beautiful pasture and I see and they you know, the 178 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:23.279 pastor's got like tall grass pass I'd be like three 179 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.600 three and a half four feet tall, you know, they 180 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.440 haven't mode in a while. And I see this thing 181 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:34.039 stand up in this tall grass and I'm looking at 182 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:38.799 it and it was like an argish brownish looking you know, 183 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:41.480 it was just what it looked like a guy in 184 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.000 a gilly shuit. But I'm like, why is there someone 185 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.440 in a gilly shoot and June, you know what I mean? 186 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.639 When it was hunting seasons in the fall. So I'm 187 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:51.799 looking at it and I'm I'm going to reach for 188 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:54.840 my phone so I can take a picture. And as 189 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:57.080 I'm as I look down to grab my phone, I 190 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.320 look back up and this thing kind of just it 191 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.320 kind of just like kneels back down, like it doesn't 192 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.879 fall forward. And it didn't, you know, it didn't look 193 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.679 like a deer. It didn't have a snout, didn't look 194 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:09.759 like a black bear, because the black bears are jet 195 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.519 black in Jersey, I'm sure in Pennsylvania other you know, 196 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:15.600 there's no There was no black, nothing black about this 197 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.120 there was. It wasn't greenish can like gillie suits are. 198 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.799 It was like an orangish brownish, you know color, And 199 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.159 I'm thinking, I'm like, you know, and then the thing 200 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.080 then this thing disappears and then I never see it again. 201 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:31.879 So I'm like, why would you know, why would a 202 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.039 hunter be dressed like that and then be crawling through 203 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:38.200 this tick infested, snake infested field, you know what I mean? 204 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.440 And you know ninety degree weather, you know what I 205 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.720 mean with nine ninety percent humidity, that's just awful, terrible. 206 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:46.039 It was terrible album. 207 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:49.240 Yeah, that's not going to be a comfortable uh, a 208 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:51.200 comfortable endeavor, no. 209 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:55.159 So but so and then then I remember the tree 210 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:57.399 being you know, the tree falling down in the front. 211 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.720 I'm like, oh, maybe this is you know, for the 212 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.320 few things I did watch on TV and I did 213 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.799 the the little research that I did that I'm like, well, 214 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:07.440 maybe that might be uh, you know, it might be 215 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:10.840 you know, bigfoot. But like I said, I can't confirm 216 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.399 or deny. But like I said, that's the closest thing 217 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.799 I've had to a class A sighting. 218 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:22.159 So but with all this happening, you know, initially, did 219 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.360 it come to your mind that you know, crap, I'm 220 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.879 experiencing a big foot or did you really have to 221 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.159 think on it, like was your first thought bigfoot? Or 222 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.320 was it like, man, this is weird it was weird. 223 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:35.960 It was weird. Like I said, I was just I 224 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.159 was just getting back into Bigfoot so I could have 225 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.159 you know, I was hoping it was big but mebing 226 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:43.679 you know what I mean, Like I said, you're always 227 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:47.679 you know, he always uh you know. But my first 228 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.200 thing was like, that's why would there be someone you know, 229 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.000 in a Gillie suit in summer? You know, and basically 230 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.759 this crappy weather, you know what I mean? That was 231 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.799 my first thing. And then where the heck did he 232 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:02.240 go after? After? You know, decided to like, you know, 233 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.240 why would you crawl through these you know, just walk 234 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.639 out and walk into go to the parking lot. I mean, 235 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:10.120 so you know, like I said, it was kind of weird, 236 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.279 just very very weird to me. And you know, I was, 237 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.679 I was just starting out with another group and I 238 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.120 don't want to mention his name, but he lives, you know, 239 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.559 kind of close to me, uh you know, starting to 240 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.440 do some investing with him, so like it would on 241 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.840 my mind. But but then again, but I'm like, you know, 242 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.879 I'm still kind of like, you know, well, I'm an 243 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:33.399 hour from Manhattan. You know, this can't be this can't 244 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:34.039 be happening. 245 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.279 So so I have a question for you, Chuck. 246 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.559 Do you assume that the elderly couple that. 247 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:45.320 You saw that was having this discussion was witnessing the 248 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.879 same thing and maybe saw more than what you saw. 249 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:51.399 Yeah, it was the oh, the two couple of DACA. 250 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.480 I think they were. I think they might have heard 251 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.080 something or they might have you know, something must have 252 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.799 happened because they were looking at each other there, like 253 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.840 the dumb founded looks like someone said something real rude, 254 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:05.919 you say, you know what I mean. But then they 255 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.639 kept on looking across the street to the to the woods, 256 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:10.559 you know, to the ull right. I mean that was 257 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:13.720 really heavily wooded. So like you said, they heard a grunt, 258 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:18.720 heard like something you know, definitely was was off with 259 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.480 you know, with all four of them, They've all four 260 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:25.000 four of them heard something, you know what I mean. Right, Yeah, 261 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:27.360 so I was you know, but like I said, I 262 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.399 it wasn't. That was the last thing on my mind. 263 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.919 I'm thinking that every day they had a couple of 264 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.120 couple on board and they said something that at dinner, 265 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:34.360 you know. 266 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:38.320 Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what they saw or heard 267 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:40.960 that was a little bit more. 268 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:44.759 Encompassing to what you witnessed. 269 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:49.000 I'm assuming it much. It must have maybe maybe like 270 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:52.399 a guttural growl, or must have been something that would 271 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.360 have shot you know what I mean, like something like 272 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:57.080 you know, you I don't think it would have been 273 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.840 a wood knock because you know, you hear you know 274 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.840 here treasons, you know, you know, branches hitting each other 275 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.240 all the time. I mean, I think it might have 276 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.799 been maybe like a good role you know, just grunt 277 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.919 or something that was you know, kind of because they 278 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:16.159 looked like they were kind of, you know, not not scared, 279 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.639 but they just looked very confused, you know what I mean, 280 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.840 like what the hell was that? You know? So I 281 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:23.279 don't thinking it might have been. 282 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.159 No, I think you make a good point on that. 283 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:27.759 You know, I think a wood knock to anybody else 284 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:32.039 besides us would just be a sound, right, you wouldn't 285 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:33.879 really put a lot of thought into it, but it 286 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.159 had to have been something that caught their attention. Did 287 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.159 you go up to them at all? Did you're like, man, 288 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.159 I don't want to wear these people out, you know, 289 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:41.639 like I. 290 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.720 Said, I would if I was a little more into 291 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.320 you know, into bigfoot and add a little more knowledge 292 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:51.080 of investigations, I might have gone up and started questioning them. 293 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:56.759 But I'll like new jerrys like you talking to them. 294 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.720 I'm that's that's the town boy and me there chuck. 295 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.080 You know, I'll go up and talk to anybody. 296 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:07.720 Well too. But it's like but then ultimately then you 297 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:09.759 gotta be worried about getting master. 298 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.519 Like you know, yeah that's true. 299 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:14.559 Yeah, So but like I said, I I was a 300 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.759 little more knowledgeable and a little more like you know, 301 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:19.799 if I had maybe a year or two in you know, 302 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:23.799 of investigations in in me, then yeah, I probably would 303 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.720 have been questioning them. Like I said, I was just 304 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.320 like fresh. I was like maybe two months into it, 305 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:32.919 you know what I mean. So like right, yeah, I 306 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.000 didn't know what that was either. 307 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.840 So Baker's got a great list of convos starters. If 308 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:37.600 you need them for. 309 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.399 A bring bring to the Obie Stale at the bar. 310 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:45.720 He'll bring you all his lines to get some time. 311 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.519 Hey, hey, hey, honey, did you see that hairy thing? 312 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.559 I saw you guys looking across the looking at me 313 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:56.519 from across the thing. 314 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:02.440 Music and we just down the toilet. 315 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.200 We're gonna have to call him the Riz here. You know, 316 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:08.600 no one's got charisma like James Baker, He's got them. 317 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:12.159 I try, he's got them. So you were you know, 318 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.960 you said you had these these stories happening in the 319 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:18.960 like around the Patterson Gimblin time. And you know what's 320 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:23.080 interesting about that, Scott is even to our Scott when 321 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:28.080 I say Scott, Chuck, we have a lot of reports 322 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:34.720 still coming through of chickens, rabbits, small livestock that are 323 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.080 even Gwen, you know, our good friend Gwen, She's been 324 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:42.000 on the program as something's always harassing her chickens. Uh, 325 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:47.200 you know, do you think there's merit and trying to 326 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.639 find some way to capture some I mean it would 327 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.960 be gory if it is. And I'm not saying we 328 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:57.159 use sacrificial chickens, you know, but is there like a 329 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:01.600 camera trap around some of these some these dens or 330 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.160 areas are I don't call them corrals, but you know. 331 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:07.920 I think so. I mean, especially in the areas that 332 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.839 are more populated, like you know, like you know New 333 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:16.160 Jersey where you know, there's not that much space for 334 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:20.640 a big boat sasquash or family of them to sustain 335 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:22.599 you know, a living, you know what I mean, like 336 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.240 sustained food, you know what I mean it's you know, obviously, 337 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:29.920 if there's one hundreds and thousands of acres millions of acres, 338 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:31.480 then yeah, probably you know, you probably want have to 339 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:34.000 do it. But if there's a bunch of farms, you 340 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:38.039 know that are like lining where the Appalachious Trail is 341 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.440 or where you know, these protected lands are, I think 342 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:44.160 that would definitely definitely be a But then then but 343 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.599 then you get the people saying, well, the camps they 344 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:48.440 don't you know, they don't go close to cameras or 345 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.240 they know where the camera is and they stay away, 346 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:50.880 you know what I mean. 347 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:52.359 So we don't know that. 348 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.559 People. That's always people's opinion. 349 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.559 I mean we've talked about that many times, right, even 350 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.000 with all the presentations you and I have m seed 351 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.160 and stood by. You know, we talk about that a lot. 352 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.240 And I think even as researchers we use that. But 353 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.839 you know, at the end of the day, Roger Patterson 354 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.599 and Bob Gimmon may have got one on film, you know, 355 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:17.079 And but you know, when you go into that a 356 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.480 little bit more, and Vance and I have talked about this, 357 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.200 an awful lot with the Sierra Sounds wasn't because they 358 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.720 weren't using digital equipment. It was analog equipment, so it's 359 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:31.960 not you know, the noise is different noise. You know, 360 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:36.720 we don't know, it's just all things that we you know, 361 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.079 I guess we could call it supposition at that point, assumptions, right, 362 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.160 But I think it's a good place to start and vance. 363 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.359 And I have kind of thought about incorporating that in 364 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.599 some of the research we do. I know, Matt and 365 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.640 I have talked about it up there, Chuck in the 366 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:52.720 as we start, you know, our research area, which spans 367 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.039 across the entire northern part of the state into your 368 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.240 neck of the woods. I think it'd be worth trying 369 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.640 if we get enough of us out there with some 370 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.000 analy equipment. But we're going to be going to change 371 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:08.119 a lot of tape, right you can you get tape anymore. 372 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:12.240 That's kind of hard to find. But you know, like 373 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:14.559 Sean just said. 374 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:19.799 We've had these conversations where it seems though that non 375 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:26.519 digital seems to be far more successful than the you know, 376 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:31.759 our analogue seems to be far more successful in capturing 377 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:37.799 any kind of evidence over digital. Yeah, and I'm going 378 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:40.000 to kind of stay with that because it seems to 379 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.319 be the case, well. 380 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:44.920 It could be the way that it processes too, because 381 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.400 analog has a. 382 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.119 Larger waveform where digital cuts it off the top and 383 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:54.119 the bottom to make the wave which can adjust how 384 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.440 you hear things. That's like MP three is aren't the 385 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.839 best if you really want a solid listen of what 386 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.000 actually went on, a record player actually does better than 387 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:06.000 a CD player, right. 388 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:08.559 You know that's a good point, you know, and that's 389 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:09.640 a good point. 390 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:16.400 No, and I give you that go ahead, Vance, I'm sorry, 391 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:17.160 I'm just trying to. 392 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.599 No, I'm just going to say, I'll give James that. 393 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:21.079 You know. 394 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:28.279 Uh, depending on the technology of data recording. Uh, it 395 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:33.680 seems to me that some of the older technology seems 396 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:38.720 to be more significant in capturing than newer technology. 397 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:43.960 Well, you lose quality for data space if you can, 398 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.119 you know, so, in other words, you can get more 399 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.119 songs on something, but you lose quality. Unless you're like 400 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:54.119 talking about a DVD, like a VHS tape compared to 401 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:54.799 a Blu ray. 402 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:56.200 There's a lot more. 403 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:57.960 Work into that, you know, you get. 404 00:20:57.839 --> 00:20:59.640 Them into the different conversion rates. 405 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.079 But if you honestly hurt let's say, well, we'll take 406 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:04.359 Pirates of the Caribbean. 407 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:08.160 If you if you heard the song on a BLU 408 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:12.200 ray before it was enhanced. It actually would be sound 409 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.200 better on a VHS tape because of the way the 410 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:16.240 system works. 411 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.960 Okay, food for thought. 412 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:25.319 Sorr, No, No, that that's why I take your opinion 413 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:26.960 as gold. 414 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:29.000 Liquid gold. 415 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:31.400 We got extra money if you took tests. 416 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:35.240 Is where it was? Henry? Do you have are you 417 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:39.079 still there with us? I'm here? What question do you 418 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:45.799 have for Chuck? Well, I don't know if I caught what. 419 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.119 Here this was. 420 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.079 Listen how big the area was when you saw this thing? 421 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:57.680 Okay, yeah it was. It's gotta be like five six 422 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:03.039 years ago now, so it's probably right after Uh was 423 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:04.759 it right after COVID? Now? It was right probably right 424 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.359 before COVID, right before COVID because everyone wasn't like we 425 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:10.200 weren't all masked up and we were actually able to 426 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.559 out to go out and have a good time. And 427 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.680 it was where it was is. It's right next to 428 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:21.880 New Jersey. We have High Point State Park, we have 429 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.240 Stoke State Forest and then goes into the Delaware Water 430 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:30.400 Gap National Recreation Area. It's not National Parks Recreation Area. 431 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.079 And that's all Like the whole area is probably about 432 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:41.400 ninety thousand square trying to think acres and so it's 433 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:43.599 you know, not a massive area, but you know, for 434 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:46.440 New Jersey, it's probably one of the largest you know, 435 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:51.480 protected areas we have so and you know, it borders 436 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.519 right up on the Delaware River, and like you said, 437 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.480 it does have al running through it. But yeah, it 438 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.319 was probably around it was inside of this area or 439 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:02.200 right next to next to this area. That's probably you know, 440 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:03.640 in total, about. 441 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.079 Ninety thousand square I think, you know, New Jersey kind 442 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.359 of gets the same wrap that Pennsylvania and New York does. 443 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:14.319 They only think about the big cities. They don't think 444 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.960 about the rural and the wooded areas that encompass you know, 445 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.119 you know a great part of Pennsylvania, but a decent 446 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.160 part of New Jersey and upstate New York, you know. 447 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:30.039 And that's why I think there's such a rich pool 448 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.440 of sightings in those areas and some that we we 449 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.160 don't get. I also wonder, Chuck, and you've been doing 450 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.279 this research now for a little while and going out 451 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:42.039 and being part of different groups, how many reports from 452 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.759 New Jersey New York are out there that nobody's talked 453 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:46.759 about yet. What's your thoughts on that? Do you think 454 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:48.839 there's a lot more out there that people haven't reported. 455 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:52.599 Yeah, I definitely do, especially up where I'm in in 456 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.079 Susas County and Warren County, which is I think compasses 457 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.160 a lot of the able War Gap recreation area. Do 458 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.440 we have there's a lot of and I said this 459 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.400 in the in the in the uh you know, in 460 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.720 Alex's show, but I said, we're very conservative up there, 461 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:13.839 and politically yes, but people just they keep to themselves, 462 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.599 you know what I mean, Like they don't want people 463 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.759 showing up at the doorstep, you know, if something happens 464 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.000 in there, you know, on their property that they're not 465 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.240 telling everyone that they're going to keep to themselves. I mean, 466 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:31.160 I've heard stories, numerous stories of pig farmers and different 467 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:34.319 farmers that have had something tall and harry, you know, 468 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.200 climb over there for step over their fence, grab a 469 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.880 pig and step back over and leave, you know what 470 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.839 I mean. And the farmers it doesn't shoot, it doesn't 471 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.640 go to the police about it. It's just like, all right, 472 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.039 you can take that one. Just leave these alone, you 473 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.000 know what I mean. And then it's like that, and 474 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.839 you know, so I think there's a lot more sightings 475 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.599 that people just haven't mentioned and you know fact that. 476 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.759 No, Chuck, I was just gonna say, I heard what 477 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:07.920 a week and a half ago, uh, that there were 478 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:12.759 wildfires in the pine barrens, and I'm wondering what that 479 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:13.920 may have stirred up. 480 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.039 Yeah, well, Pie Barnes, that's a whole other monster down there. 481 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.759 That's uh, you know, there's big pacieties down there. That's 482 00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:26.599 actually that's his Jersey Devil's territory down there. But yeah, 483 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:31.920 that's I'm sure that it's you know, whatever whatever down there. 484 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:35.119 It probably pushed it into you know, I'm sure that 485 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.440 you'll you'll probably hear some more sightings pop up, you know, 486 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:39.599 and like you know, a couple of months, maybe a 487 00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:41.880 year from now, people are more comfortable with it that 488 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.440 they'll uh you know, yeah, I was in my backyard 489 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.480 and that's all this thing running in mine, you know, 490 00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.440 just because it's getting pushed out of words you know 491 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:54.599 where it lives. But I'm sure, you know, with a little 492 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.400 wildfires going on in out west to last year and 493 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.680 you know recently, you're gonna be hearing a lot more 494 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:01.079 of that. 495 00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.799 Too, right Well, And you know, I wondered, I wondered 496 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.720 why we haven't heard as much, and I thought we 497 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.119 would be a buzz with it, and either folks are 498 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.720 you know, really dealing with their own traumas, and you know, 499 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.480 Bigfoot is not the thing they're thinking of, you know, 500 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:16.440 because a lot of people lost a lot of homes 501 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.480 and we lost a lot of acreage. But you know, 502 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.079 I think inevitably we will start getting some reports of 503 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.240 some of the stranger things that may have occurred during 504 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.680 that time, and even maybe up in the pine or 505 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:29.519 down in the pine barrens Toochuck. But one of the 506 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.400 things I wanted to appreciate that you said, and you 507 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.599 made it pretty clear what you meant was when we 508 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.799 talk about conservative areas of the state, we talk about 509 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.440 just exactly what you said, those hunters outdoorsmen, that it's 510 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:44.759 not a political affiliation, by what we mean, it's a 511 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:49.440 lifestyle affiliation, like the folks that really keep to themselves 512 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.559 and they don't want that way of life intruded upon. 513 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:57.200 And it's very prevalent in these areas still. But you know, 514 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:01.359 maybe almost like a more of a mid Western mentality, Chuck, 515 00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:06.359 I would say, with the UH way they protect the 516 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:11.880 hunting and the fishing, and I think that's very important 517 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.440 for people to understand why some of these areas where 518 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:20.720 we have a lot of reports that just don't get reported. 519 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:24.240 Yeah, people don't want to be known as They don't 520 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.480 want to be known as the crazy neighbors. They don't 521 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.440 be known as this. I mean they just you know, that's. 522 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:36.359 Get it, because you're kicked out of the hunting club. 523 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:37.799 Exactly. 524 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.000 They don't want people and they don't want people in 525 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.680 their hunting out fishing in their strange I mean they 526 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.279 found a nice honeymole. I don't want to bring people 527 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:46.640 to them. 528 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.440 No, No, absolutely, go ahead, Vance, you were going to 529 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:50.319 say something I stepped on. 530 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.440 No, I really wasn't. I was just in total agreement 531 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.720 with what he was saying that. 532 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:00.440 Yeah, I don't think, uh, you're you're not included in anymore. 533 00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:04.599 We go ahead and take that mid hour break and 534 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.039 give everybody a chance to stretch their legs smoking if 535 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.039 you got them, and folks who are listening to Sasquatch experience. 536 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.359 Sean Falker Vance and has been Henry mate with our 537 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.240 guest tonight, Chuck Lorson. We'll be back right after this. 538 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:20.119 Stay tuned team A symbol. 539 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.440 Hey, this occurred to me today I D I D, 540 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.960 which I had to show to you. That is a 541 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.599 strange abbreviation when you think about it. I is short 542 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:45.240 for I and then D is short for identification. 543 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:52.559 Because split down. 544 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:55.079 Ah. 545 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.799 Yes, well you know the proper pronoun for identification is 546 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:05.240 miss misidentification. I did not need to explain that to you. 547 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.319 I know you're all smart enough to have figured that 548 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.160 one out. Well, Happy last day of March to you all. 549 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.359 I hope you're having a wonderful springtime and surviving severe storms, 550 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.559 which seems to be quite often this time of year. 551 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:26.000 But speaking of misidentification. During a recent National Weather Service 552 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:31.240 investigation into damage caused by severe weather, something unusual was 553 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:37.079 spotted behind a fallen tree, the appearance of what many referred. 554 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.920 To as Bigfoot. 555 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:44.279 The sighting occurred in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, an area nestled 556 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.680 with hills and higher terrain of the Allegheny Mountains north 557 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:54.000 of West Virginia. The figure appeared to be human sized, 558 00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.839 if not larger, as it walked through the wooded landscape, 559 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:02.480 but according to the National Weather Service meteorologist, there is 560 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.519 no need to worry as to what was spotted was 561 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:09.519 likely something purposely staged to add a bit of fun 562 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:14.519 to people's lives. Locals said it's rather common for residents 563 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.680 to create figures out of iron or similar materials, either 564 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.839 for decoration or to spark the curiosity from passerbys. Now 565 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.240 while the recent sightings may not have been an actual 566 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:31.680 living creature, there had been historical reports of similar sized 567 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:36.519 entities in the region. According to the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society. 568 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.640 Back in nineteen seventy seven, a family driving along a 569 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.759 dark stretch of road spotted a six foot tall figure 570 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.359 covered in shaggy, reddish brown hair. When they shine their 571 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.400 headlights on it, the creature reportedly disappeared over a forty 572 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.599 foot embankment, never to be seen again. And in two 573 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:01.119 thousand and four in nearby Green County, two friends reported 574 00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:05.519 seeing a seven foot tall creature making catlike noises during 575 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:09.640 their bike ride, and in twenty thirteen, a man reported 576 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:14.319 seen an eight foot tall creature with caveman like features 577 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:19.279 in the far distance. According to the BFRO, Pennsylvania is 578 00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.440 often a hotspot for sightings and ranks in the top 579 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:27.680 ten of states with the most reports. The earliest reports 580 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.680 of sasquatch sightings date back to at least the eighteen hundreds, 581 00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.319 according to the State of Washington. Many of these early 582 00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:39.680 cases lacked photos or video. Wait there was no video 583 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.039 back in the eighteen hundreds. Oh come on, that's just 584 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:47.039 as fascinating as a bigfoot itself, so they were often 585 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:54.079 dismissed as misunderstandings or gags. Advancements in technology have led 586 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:58.480 to numerous modern sightings captured on video or in photos, 587 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:02.519 fueling ongoing to bay about the existence. 588 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:03.759 Of these creatures. 589 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:14.519 When we come back, let's put our hoods on. 590 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.519 You listen to the big football run right here on 591 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:15.799 the Sasquatch experience. 592 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.559 It's not Dockers, It's God Knockers. Hey, have you been 593 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.440 to the squatch field site on the interweb that has 594 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.039 it all? Introducing got Knockers dot Org. Stop on buy 595 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.759 for an intriguing story of the encounter that started it all. 596 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.880 But wait, there's more. 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Thanks 613 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.880 again for listening to. 614 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:25.039 This edition of The big Foot Bullhorn exclusively and always 615 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.440 on the Sasquatch experience, and as your car seat always 616 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.280 says to your ass, I'm. 617 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:32.320 Tearing we meet again. 618 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:33.960 Keep your toe in the mind. 619 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:38.679 Thanks Vance. 620 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:46.679 Even though the camera has moved, we sean, I don't 621 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.000 know what the hell it was doing. I was waiting 622 00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.440 for it to come back live anyhow, Welcome back, folks, 623 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:54.599 Sasquatch Experience, Sean Falker, Vincent, Chuck Larson, Henry May, James 624 00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.400 Baker is being cock blocked by Microsoft apparently, so he's 625 00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.360 not going to be with us. 626 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.280 Had the train hit him? 627 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.920 That he got hit by a train. Anyhow, Vance, thank 628 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:09.760 you for the big football this week. Appreciate that not 629 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.239 only is Vance available for rent, he is full of 630 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.639 dad jokes. So reach out to Vance NESB for your 631 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.840 for your all all your event narration needs. But before 632 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.639 we went to break, we were talking with Chuck about 633 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.440 his big foot sighting he had in Jersey about six 634 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.440 years ago, and we were just getting into some of 635 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.199 the other things that he's been involved with. So, Chuck, 636 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.920 some you joined the c r C. You can talk 637 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.760 about that you founded, and so talk about that a 638 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:44.960 little bit. How did that come about? 639 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:48.360 One of the founders, one of the founders, well, the 640 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.159 Ferston that I want to mention before, I was in 641 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.599 that group with guy with Brendan Brown, Sean Wagner, and 642 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.400 we just got to a point where like we need 643 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.440 to separate and we decided to start our own, start 644 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:08.360 our own group. And I live in New Jersey, seaw 645 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.320 lives in Pennsylvania and Brenda lives in like the Catskills. 646 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:16.440 So that's the Cat's Collopelation Research Collective was born. And 647 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.000 then the first move we made was getting Mike Lucci, 648 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:26.079 who's who I do the Big Fort Journal with. He's 649 00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:28.719 the host of the Big for Journal, but he's he's 650 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.320 a great investigator, so we got him on board. And 651 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.400 then obviously through through Sean, we had you know, Gwen. 652 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.519 Gwen is a part of the Cats Collopolation Research Collective 653 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.239 and it's u you know, now it's just basically Gwen's 654 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.280 basically running and she's she's you know, she's amazing. Mike 655 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.639 and I have been kind of jammed up with the 656 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.280 with the Big Journal, which is awesome and I love 657 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.480 Brindon decided to go some you know, he decided to 658 00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.239 not be part of pick for thenaymore, which is fine. 659 00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.239 You know, we still we're still great friends with him. 660 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.079 You know, we just you know, you just got to 661 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.599 a point where he's like, yeah, we're step away from 662 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.920 big Foot for one, which is it happens people get 663 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.639 fronts out and you know, so it's uh, yeah, so 664 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.400 I am one of the founders of that group and uh, 665 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.760 you know, we we we started off small and you know, 666 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.679 we got we we we've been growing and you know 667 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.199 it's like the town with the town of Mike and 668 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.760 you know, with the town of Gwen, you know, investigating 669 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.519 and doing this stuff. You know, it's we we've grown 670 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.599 and we we we we've had some pretty good uh evidence. 671 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.440 We you know, we we did a investigation now in Alleghany. 672 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.360 Uh we actually were gonna we're gonna do it in 673 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:42.000 the New York side in Alleghany State Park, but we 674 00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.360 ended up in that Allegany National Forests in Pennsylvania, and 675 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.599 we got these the Sugar Run House, which is Brendan 676 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.519 who's you know, one of the founders. He was awesome 677 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.440 with video editing, and he was awesome with just I 678 00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.440 don't know if you ever saw our show this week 679 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.360 in Bigfoot, Yeah, you know, he did all the video 680 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.039 editing for that and he's just amazing. So we're put 681 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.360 we put this we have against twelve minute little docu 682 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.920 movie or docu docu thing and called the Sugar Run 683 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:14.280 House and we uh we sent them out to David 684 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.199 Ellis out of the Olympic Project and he put him 685 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.480 through the spectrograph early the other thing he's got. And 686 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.559 he came back he's like, listen, yeah, we you know, 687 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.000 we don't, we don't, we don't know what this is. 688 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:28.519 Oh and there's not one of them, but there's two 689 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.400 of them. There's two different right, Yeah, we got two 690 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.840 different Holls and uh. And it was just it was 691 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.480 it was just, you know, we were supposed to be 692 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.239 in New York State, like I said, we they decided 693 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.000 to go to to uh, Pennsylvania. So it worked out. Well. 694 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.000 It's really interesting, Chuck, because that whole area has a 695 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:47.320 lot of rich history. 696 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:48.960 Yes it does. 697 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.320 And you know thanks to you, Chuck that you you know, 698 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:59.320 went to Ellis UH to send that information to because man, 699 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.199 I'm telling knew that guy. 700 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:03.400 He is spot on. 701 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:10.000 He is so spot on to identify what is already 702 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.519 a known creature and what is throwing the arms up 703 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.840 to the air and say, I I don't know what 704 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:17.360 that is. 705 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.000 Yeah, I don't have it. Yeah, And it was actually 706 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.440 made like you know, he made an official statement and 707 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.199 we had like a letter from it. It was it 708 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:25.800 was really cool, it was it was really nice for 709 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.920 him taking the time time out. I'm sorry Canada with 710 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.840 the thousands of people? What is this? What is he? 711 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.159 I mean? So it was the fact that he helped 712 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:43.599 us out. Was it was pretty cold, and yeah, David, yeah, absolutely, 713 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.800 so yeah, we yeah, we were initially like we're investigations 714 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.519 and productions. And now, like I said, well, hopefully this spring. 715 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:53.960 I mean, I lost like seventy pounds, so we're gonna 716 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:55.599 be a little a little bit more and more spry 717 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.559 in the woods. See the red going into the woods, 718 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.159 because I was just like fast, it was like a 719 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.920 frigging train wreck in the woods. But now I think 720 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.199 it'll be a little more spry and not have to 721 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.840 stop every fifteen seconds to a breathe. So I hope 722 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:11.360 to get out and do some more of boots on 723 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.119 the ground investigation and you know, going to New Jersey 724 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.639 and Pennsylvania where and obviously you know, if we have 725 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:19.639 the opportunity to go to to Allegheny, yeah, we're gonna 726 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.480 do that, or go to Salt Fork and do that, 727 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.039 you know, go with some of the hotspots. But I 728 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:26.280 told Michael Mike, let's let's let's try to like own 729 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.960 our area and uh, you know, let's see what we 730 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.800 can find here. Because Mike lives in Westchester County, which 731 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.159 is you know, just north of the Bronx. And you know, 732 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.320 so I'm like, let's let's own this area and try 733 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.119 to you know, prove, prove that lives here or it 734 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.480 doesn't live here. But I'm I'm assuming in a vacations 735 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.320 in New Jersey. Yeah, I done. We have a Yeah. 736 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:51.880 That's Matt Night's philosophy. 737 00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:52.000 You know. 738 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.880 That's why we've put so much emphasis on where we're at. 739 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:55.559 Uh. 740 00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.639 It's not a heavily trafficked area, right, not a whole 741 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.320 lot of history that people know about, but it's an 742 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.280 area we feel like we can work, we can get 743 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.519 to quickly if we need to, and you know, build 744 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.599 something from it. So I respect the thought that you 745 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.840 have there, own your area. And when you don't broadcast 746 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.880 it out to everybody, you know, it makes it a 747 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.320 little easier too. You can you can kind of keep 748 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:22.320 it a little bit more pure. And that's really important too. 749 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:26.440 I think we just ran into the situation with a investigation. 750 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.719 Matt and I were going to really get involved in 751 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.320 Chuck and we went, we started making plans to get 752 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.519 out there, contacted the witness, go to go out with 753 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.079 the witness, and then the next thing, you know, the 754 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:41.079 whole area is posted all over the internet from another 755 00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.280 research group, and that you know, now all of a sudden, 756 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:44.400 I'm not interested in going. 757 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.599 No, you can. You know it's like, you know, we 758 00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.400 went up to White All a couple of years ago, 759 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.840 and you know, you want to investigative. You know, you're 760 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.960 going to investigative the doing a festival or after or 761 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.519 right after, right before MeTL there's gonna be so many 762 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.119 people in the woods there. I mean, you know, you 763 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:08.000 gotta and New Jersey. You know, what's the summertime. If 764 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.199 you know that we just get such an influx of 765 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.000 people from from the city and just move down below that, 766 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.400 you know, it's not worth it worth to do investigating 767 00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.320 after Memorial that, I mean, you get the way until 768 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:20.400 the Yeah. 769 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.599 You have the way you're strategic about when you're deploying 770 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.400 out in those areas. Most definitely, it's kind of that. 771 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.039 That's kind of how I feel about Salt Fork too. 772 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:30.000 Yeah. 773 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.280 You know, I think there's so many that show up 774 00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.440 in that area. Uh yeah, I don't think you're going 775 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.719 to get a whole lot of activity, especially during the conference. 776 00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.440 But yeah, I just don't know that that's gonna happen. 777 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.239 It's neat to go to those areas so you can 778 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.559 kind of connect with them. You get those areas into 779 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:56.760 your mental frame and your mental picture, and but to 780 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.159 go out there and really think you're going to get 781 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.400 any kind of evidence or have any kind of encounter, 782 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:05.840 it's just very slim to none. Maybe years ago before 783 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.280 the Salt, the uh East Ohio Bigfoot Conference became so big, 784 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.480 like it was just a couple of hundred, you know, 785 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.599 maybe one hundred people that would attend it. Maybe Now, 786 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.039 I mean, if you've been to OBC, and you know, 787 00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.599 all of us have been to at least one here, 788 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.480 and if you're a listener, you've probably been. If you've not, 789 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.079 it is literally like a comic con for Bigfoot at 790 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.800 this point, it's huge. 791 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.559 There's nothing else around there either. You here, you're there, 792 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.639 and you're you know what I mean, And it's and 793 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:41.679 I tell you because I kicked myself. I always sorry, 794 00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:43.119 go ahead. 795 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.400 I always say it's our WrestleMania. 796 00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.639 It is all right, it is absolutely but uh yeah, 797 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.119 I told you I was, you know, in my twenties, 798 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.159 I kind of got away from the whole Bigfoot thing, 799 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:02.079 and and uh, I'm kicking my shell because when I 800 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:03.880 was like twenty five or twenty six, I was working 801 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:05.760 at a private school and I was able to have 802 00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.079 like a few weeks off in the summertime because the 803 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:11.559 school closed down, and the buddy of mine drove across country. 804 00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:14.079 You know, he was uh and it's just you know, 805 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.440 trying to be just short and sweet, but he basically 806 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.360 he wanted to get on TV as a reporter. So 807 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.320 he made twenty eight tapes of him doing news reports. 808 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.920 And we basically drove to like Denver and all these 809 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.719 different cities out west, and we'd stopped both you know, 810 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.639 we'd be like we'd pulled to it down, we'd see 811 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.360 a TV station. He popped in for like fifteen minutes, 812 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:32.639 he got an interview, We got a interview. If not, 813 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.679 we moved on. But I remember we went over we 814 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.960 went over the the we camped a big sur went 815 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.039 over Golden Gate. We took the pch up to Eureka, 816 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:44.519 and we took that right because his family lived in 817 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:50.039 Mount Shasta, and we drove right through Willow Creek. We 818 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.280 probably drove right over like where Bluff Creek was, and 819 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.360 I'm like, man, I should have stopped just at least, 820 00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.000 you know, taking the picture with the big f R somelthing, 821 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:00.960 you know what I mean. And it's like, you know, 822 00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:02.760 but that area that you know, just to bring in 823 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.719 full circle, that area is probably you probably can't go 824 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.679 there ever a gole big footing because it's just there's 825 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.559 so many super enthusiasts that are there year round because 826 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:12.760 the weather's nice all you around. 827 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.039 You know, you gotta wait till it dies down a 828 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.880 little bit again, Chuck, when the bigfoot mania tends to 829 00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.639 start rolling back and it becomes a little bit more 830 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.480 for the researchers again, not the publicity and the I 831 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:29.599 guess the fanfare around it, which is okay. I mean 832 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.920 it keeps things like us in business like. I don't 833 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.719 begrudge anybody having fun with it. I really don't, because 834 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.840 it brings attention to the subject, which is important. But 835 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.800 if you're doing it from a research perspective, makes a 836 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:46.519 big difference. And for your intentions, yeah, I think it's. 837 00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.519 A good scri even good scrown even more now in 838 00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.679 pop culture. I mean, look, you got mount new commercials 839 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.599 with the Yetty playing kickball, you know what I mean. Obviously, 840 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.239 Jack Lynx, you know, you know, back in the seventies 841 00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.480 was the big Foot, the Monster Shock ran Elis and 842 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:03.559 also others why I got I love Bigfoot, but uh yeah, 843 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.280 it's h yeah, I'm hoping that you know, he maybe 844 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:08.840 he does have a little bit of loals. We can 845 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.480 do it some investigation. But then again, I hope it starts, 846 00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:15.079 you know, really starts booming and people more. People are 847 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.639 more open to the fact that there could be something 848 00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:19.639 out there. They know, they just don't pass it off 849 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.079 as you know, we're all nuts, you know what I mean? 850 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:23.239 Right right? 851 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:25.400 A couple of my friends think I'm a flat earth 852 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.280 there because they're you know, because I read Bigfoot. A 853 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.000 family members think I'm you know, wacky. 854 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:30.360 You know. 855 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.679 You first I can really talk to about with my family, 856 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.960 the Bigfoot is my eleven year old nephew or ten 857 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.320 year old nephew. I mean, so that's about it. Yeah, 858 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.920 everyone else think I'm nuts. But then yet again, but 859 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.760 then no one wants to come into the woods and 860 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.039 go looking for. 861 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:48.480 Bigfoot though, So Chuck, I have taken a lot of 862 00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:50.719 people that would dismiss it and make a joke out 863 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.239 of it, and turn them into people that will at 864 00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.119 least entertain the possibility, you know, just having them sit 865 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.760 down and well, you and I have MC together at 866 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:03.440 Central Pennsylvania, a big you know, Bigfoot Encrypted festival coming 867 00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:05.000 up again this August. Cheap plug. 868 00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.719 But you know you're doing You're doing the U m 869 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:08.920 C and again again. 870 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:09.519 Yep. 871 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:11.559 I mean yeah, brother, let me know. 872 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.039 You know, I always need help. It's a it's hot 873 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.360 in that building, but they're putting air conditioning in now 874 00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:18.800 this year. 875 00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.159 Yeah, there's gonna be a whole new system in there 876 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:23.679 and everything it would be. I think it's gonna be. 877 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.400 Yeah, guys, Yeah, it's a great event, but it is 878 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:30.480 hotter than they'll in there. It is awesome, it is, 879 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.000 I mean, but it's great because one of the things 880 00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.760 we don't get is, in fact, all the times we've 881 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.119 been there, Chuck, we've not had one Heckler, No, wee. 882 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:43.320 They spend the money, they spend the money to go 883 00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.840 in and listen, and they're gonna listen. I mean they're not. Uh, 884 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.559 And that's and that's you know, but it's the area too, 885 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.039 because I think there's a lot of people in the 886 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.320 area that probably had something happen to them or you 887 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.559 know what I mean, and they're it's building. Well, that's 888 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.320 right by such Grahatta. And you know I did North 889 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.559 South has the Alba which. 890 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.559 South down in the Columbia. Yeah, I go to that 891 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.039 now pretty religiously. But to your point, you know, that's 892 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.639 another area of Pennsylvania that didn't historically have a lot 893 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.280 of sightings, and it's an area I've spent a lot 894 00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.079 of time researching and investigating. You know, I just do 895 00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.480 little presentations in towns like Katawissa. I had one in 896 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.559 October that had a decent turnout where folks or people 897 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.719 that you wouldn't think would be interested in the subject, 898 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:34.880 or people that would you know, people that you would 899 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.000 think would probably be more along the lines of hecklers 900 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.639 that really have a lot of questions, and they don't 901 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.960 come to you until after the event, when you're packing up. 902 00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.719 That's when they pull you aside and and ask you say, hey, 903 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:46.880 you know, do you mind if I tell you the 904 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.320 story or uh? And that's what's cool about what we do, 905 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.199 because even if you're bold enough to stand up in 906 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.000 the room and tell everybody, somebody comes to find you. 907 00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.760 And it wasn't the best one too, because you'll see, 908 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.760 like their their airs, they're standing up on their arms 909 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.920 or their eyes start to water, and you know, you're like, 910 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.440 you can't fake that, you know, I mean, and yeah, 911 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:13.000 if I was one of the one of the people, 912 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.280 one of the cats that finding big but you know, 913 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:17.840 or one of the people EXPERTI you know, someone's coming 914 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:19.760 up to you know, I'm not that person. I'm just 915 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.440 a guy that was either em seeing or just had 916 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.000 a big for sure eye. And they want to talk 917 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:25.639 to you about it, you know what I mean. It's 918 00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.239 you know, because they know they want to get off 919 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.800 their chest, right, you know what I mean, and they 920 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:32.719 want to know that's crazy, right. 921 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.840 You get that air credibility about you when you talk 922 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:36.760 to folks, you know, in a comfort that they build 923 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:38.400 a rapport that's built. 924 00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:38.559 You know. 925 00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:40.440 One of the people that I credit a lot to 926 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.119 help and get the word out about this in our 927 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:49.280 area is Craig Long, the magistrate in Kadawissa, you know, 928 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.559 Columbia County. And when you have somebody who's a judge, 929 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.119 you know, a magistrate and judge that is willing to 930 00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.159 put his stamp on this and talk about entertainment, that's 931 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:02.559 pretty special, you know. And I think the work that 932 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.920 we do, you know you're doing investigate. You guys have 933 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.559 investigated that area out in that part of Pennsylvania. You've 934 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.440 got Gwen out there. You know, you've hit some of 935 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.199 these really popular spots. 936 00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:14.440 You know. 937 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.639 The A and F is just a stone's throw for 938 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:21.400 where I had my encounters. So like, you know, you're 939 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.519 you're getting the boots on the ground in the right areas. 940 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:25.800 And if there's a place you could go that you 941 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.119 haven't gone to research yet, what's on your research list 942 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.800 of the place you have to go, Chuck, where's your 943 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:32.760 have to go place? 944 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.519 I'd like to get up to, Uh, I'd like to 945 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:41.360 get up to Olympic you know, the Olympic Peninsula. I'd 946 00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.800 like to get down to like kind of like where 947 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.280 Lyle is down to, like the Texarcane area, and then 948 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.880 maybe down into where our RPG is down in Florida 949 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.599 down there, and then it's watchwatchers to where they are 950 00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:58.639 too in western western North Carolina. 951 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:04.239 You know what from those areas, Chuck that snakes. 952 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.719 We know Sean likes snakes. 953 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.800 Yeah, we got stations Jersey too in Pennsylvania though. 954 00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.719 Yeah, the area that Matt and I do our research 955 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:21.039 in Chuck has the highest concentrations of rattlesnakes. 956 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.119 So well. Luckily, luckily they have rattled though. 957 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:29.599 Yeah, I got a story for you about a copperhead 958 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.280 someday that will in person. 959 00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.079 Yeah, I know the story and it's fun. 960 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.800 Van's Henry. You guys got questions for him? 961 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:41.800 Uh. 962 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.639 My only question is, uh, and I don't think it's 963 00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:51.639 even so much a question. Is the welcoming of your 964 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.519 intelligence and your knowledge into this whole community. 965 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:02.119 Uh, looking at it in the perspective that we all look. 966 00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.719 At it as. So, you know, thumbs up to you. 967 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.800 I think that's fantastic that you're looking at all of 968 00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:11.960 this in the same perspective. 969 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:12.559 Uh. 970 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:17.199 Is this a real entity or is this a hoax entity? 971 00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:20.800 And that's how I see that you're looking at this 972 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.880 at and I greatly appreciate it. 973 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:26.880 So you got to go in and being humble, you 974 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:28.480 know what I mean. You got to go in and 975 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.760 you got to listen to everyone's experiences. You got to 976 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.039 listen to both sides, and you know every side of 977 00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.000 the You know, it's the flush and blood. Is it alien? 978 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.360 Isn't this? And that? I mean you know, because we 979 00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.800 really don't know, you know, and tell me know obviously 980 00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:48.599 there's no experts in this field, a big experts. There's 981 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.679 experts and how to research, and there's experts you know, 982 00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.840 different state, but there's no real experts in the actual Yeah. 983 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.079 There's three sides to every story. 984 00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:04.280 There's there's their behalf, there's the other's behalf, and then 985 00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.239 there's the truth. 986 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:09.000 And I appreciate the fact that you said that. I 987 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:10.719 greatly appreciate that. 988 00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:13.639 Yeah, and if you know, you just you know, the 989 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.360 main thing is about integrity and being humble, you know 990 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.159 what I mean. It's an honor to be on the show. 991 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.360 It was an honor for Alex to ask me to 992 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.239 be part of the small town Monsters thing. And it's like, 993 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:25.920 you know, I'm not going to go out and try 994 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.559 to grab me, know, you know, get more than fifteen seconds. 995 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.199 I mean, it's like, listen, I appreciate the fact that 996 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:33.039 you guys had me on. I appreciate Linda, you know, 997 00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:35.159 Linda East for having me on, and I appreciate you. 998 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.320 It's like, you know, but I'm not going to go 999 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.199 out striving like, oh I need to speak here. It's like, listen, 1000 00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:42.519 I appreciate you guys asking me and if you want 1001 00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.880 to hear my two cents and that absolutely, you know, 1002 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:46.559 if I can join you showing and be an MC 1003 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.840 again at the Central PA thing, would let let's do it. 1004 00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.480 And but it's just it's all, you know, you enjoy 1005 00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.440 the community and it just just listen to everyone and 1006 00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.679 don't try to be like, don't try to make your 1007 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.760 point you know, heard louder than someone else point. I mean, 1008 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:05.440 you just listen and you enjoy it and make mental 1009 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.519 notes and use some of the stuff that you can use, 1010 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.400 and you know, you find someone something really off the wall, 1011 00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:13.119 then yeah, but then just don't use it as part 1012 00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.639 of your your research, you know. But yeah, you got 1013 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:17.960 all these people that are out there and they're doing 1014 00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.119 things right and they're doing things wrong. So take the 1015 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.039 stuff that you think might work and help it help 1016 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.039 with your you know, with your investigations. 1017 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:29.519 Well, Chuck, I have to embrace that entire opinion, Uh, 1018 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.639 totally to myself, and I assume the others of the 1019 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:39.599 SaaS squatch experience, but for me personally, I totally embrace 1020 00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:41.199 that opinion altogether. 1021 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:43.599 Absolutely. 1022 00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.119 I like being wrong. I love being wrong because it's 1023 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:52.719 an opportunity to learn and learning is important and you know, 1024 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:55.159 like you said, Chuck, we go back to this time 1025 00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.800 time again. There are no experts on this topic. There's 1026 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:02.360 experts in certain applications of things in the field, but 1027 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:06.480 there's no expert on a field of something that, uh 1028 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:11.000 just we still can't exist and chucked, we didn't ask you. 1029 00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:12.639 What's your thoughts on it? 1030 00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:13.280 Do you think? 1031 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:13.559 What? 1032 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.519 What do you think this is? What do you think 1033 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:16.360 bigfoot is? 1034 00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:19.920 Okay? I always I answered this way. What do I 1035 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:24.239 hope it is? I hope it's flesh and blood because 1036 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.840 if it's an alien, probably will I probably hang up 1037 00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:29.119 my boots. So I'm not going to go out and 1038 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:33.000 looking for something that, you know, I see, I saw 1039 00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.000 fire in the sky, I see different alien movies. I 1040 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:36.679 know what aliens do, do you guys, you know, to 1041 00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.159 do to people? I really don't need an eight foot 1042 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.960 pryting with long fingers, you know, deciding to do probing stuff. 1043 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:47.559 So yeah, right, So. 1044 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.039 I'm hoping it's it's uh, it's flesh and blood. I'm 1045 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.239 trying to drop it down a rabbit hole with uh, 1046 00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:00.199 you know, he saw and and with you know, the 1047 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.840 Book of Enoch and just you know, it's kind of 1048 00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.239 tied into the Bible. And you know, so you know, 1049 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.159 maybe it's you know, I don't want to say they're damons, 1050 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:09.800 but maybe maybe they're angels, you know what I mean? 1051 00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.719 Or maybe they're just something else. I mean, I really don't. 1052 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:15.760 Well, it might not be someone's cup of tea. There 1053 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:18.480 might be something we can pull from that information that 1054 00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:20.519 we can pull from that that can be added to 1055 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:24.599 the repertoire of of what we use or how we 1056 00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:26.960 explain it, or bring other people closer to it. 1057 00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:32.079 And I'll listen to you using fancy French words repertoire. 1058 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.960 I gotta fix this, Mike, he keeps hitting me in 1059 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:35.480 the face. 1060 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.039 I mentioned that I was on another podcast and I 1061 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.079 mentioned it, just like you know, people like, well, what's 1062 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.840 big put on the Noah's our But if you if 1063 00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:46.280 you watch, if you read, and you've got Nimrod in 1064 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:48.880 the Babylon and Babylon Now he was doing all this 1065 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.519 crush reading, maybe it wasn't you know, because. 1066 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:53.519 That's true. 1067 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:54.880 This is true. 1068 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.079 Yeah, it was this great great grand son or something 1069 00:56:58.119 --> 00:56:58.239 like that. 1070 00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:04.000 So I stand with you on that whole concept. Yep, 1071 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:04.360 I do. 1072 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:09.039 We don't know, We don't know. It's good to good 1073 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.400 to investigate nonetheless, Henry, did you have anything you wanted 1074 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:21.880 to chime in? Yes, what's happened? 1075 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.239 And what I want to say it What I want 1076 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:29.599 to say is is that what gets me is now, 1077 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:33.880 most big footers don't call themselves experts, but when they go. 1078 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:36.159 On a. 1079 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:41.920 Show that's not a big they're not experts. 1080 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.599 They're not any more big experts than. 1081 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.639 You are, right, So why call them that? Well, I 1082 00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.639 think it gets people attracted to the subject, that if, 1083 00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:54.800 because a lot of people take flak for that when 1084 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:56.760 you go and get promoted the goll this is the 1085 00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.480 bigfoot expert. Well, now we're not experts, but people that 1086 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:05.559 promoted don't. Don't say that too often, right a promotional tactic. 1087 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.880 Yeah yeah, I'll make that statement right now. There is 1088 00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:15.719 no such thing as a bigfoot expert. That does not exist. 1089 00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:22.159 Yeah no, And you know there's there's people that have 1090 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.800 had more experiences than others, so you know, their experiences 1091 00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:28.400 might you know, it doesn't make them an expert, but 1092 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.199 it we just make some more knowledgeable of what happens, 1093 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:35.840 you know what I mean? Uh, we do the show, 1094 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.159 We do a big Foot journal. Actually, Mike does a 1095 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.440 wonderful job with it. We scour. He scours. I scoured 1096 00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.840 some of the time when I'm not worth two jobs. 1097 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.159 But it's uh, we you know, he scoured in and 1098 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:52.639 we and we tie things into, you know what with 1099 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.719 big Foot. I mean, we're actually we're thinking about with 1100 00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.000 the NFL draft coming up. You know, there's a guy, 1101 00:58:58.039 --> 00:58:59.880 there's a there's a guy from the University of Florida. 1102 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.960 Four to sixty four pounds. You ran the forty in 1103 00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.320 like five point nine to seven seconds. I mean I 1104 00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.119 can't and drive that fast, you know. So we're going 1105 00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.440 to tie in. You know, we're gonna try to you know, 1106 00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.280 different things going on in the world to kind of 1107 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:15.840 try it tie it in too, big Foot, you know, 1108 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.039 with technology and all this different stuff. So it's, uh, 1109 00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:21.920 you know, I just want you know, it was a 1110 00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.199 little quick plugged head. I mean too, but I want 1111 00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:26.960 to give Mike his props about this show. 1112 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.440 And uh, you know, Mike's a good dude. We got 1113 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.360 to get Mike on the program. I've I've been in 1114 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.719 the field with Mike. I love Mike. He's a good dude. 1115 00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:38.239 He is a student, definitely a student of the game. 1116 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.079 Like much like Henry May He's probably this generation's version 1117 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:42.800 of Henry may. 1118 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:45.960 Allclopedia. 1119 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.039 Hey, Chuck, I got a quick question for you. 1120 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:53.039 Sure. 1121 00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.199 Are there any events or conferences that you're going to 1122 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:02.119 be attending in the twenty twenty five. 1123 01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:07.599 Year. Yes, uh, well, you know, obviously a couple of 1124 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.639 weeks were going. I'm so agraby I met. I went 1125 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.440 to be good to go to the Old I wanted 1126 01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.320 to go to the Penalhio this past weekend, and just 1127 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.480 with my work schedule, I couldn't get out there. But 1128 01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:20.159 I was agra. I went there. I was there last year, 1129 01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.360 and you know, I know Bill and I know I 1130 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.800 know Bill well and he's great. And then Gwenn was speaking. 1131 01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.280 I'm just pissed that I wasn't able here to speak. 1132 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:32.599 But so yeah, it'll be OBC in May and then 1133 01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:36.119 I think, oh yeah, I'm gonna be there, and Micha 1134 01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.559 will be there until we'll be there, so we're we're 1135 01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:41.719 all gonna be there. I think in June we have. 1136 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:46.719 There was the Forest County one n PA Marionville. 1137 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:46.960 Yep. 1138 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:49.960 Yeah, I want to get out to that one this 1139 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.519 year because that's that's a that's a big you know, 1140 01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:54.760 that's a big one. Last year I was in that 1141 01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.480 I was at. I went to the one in uh 1142 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:01.559 Mary in North Carolina and in May, so it was 1143 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:03.880 tough to get out in June because I was and 1144 01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:06.760 I actually went to one in uh the encounter request 1145 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.159 last year in North Carolina. So it was by the 1146 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:11.800 time June came around, I was like, I got at 1147 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:13.519 my lawns like three feet high. 1148 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.199 I got the moment there so many Yeah, and. 1149 01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:21.079 Then July I'm trying. I think there's this one in Farmingdale, 1150 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.239 New Jersey that actually there's gonna be like, uh Lyle 1151 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.280 is gonna be at it, and I think Myra Mayor 1152 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:32.639 is gonna be there. August. Uh, I am open for anything. 1153 01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.800 In August. I'll probably do August is like when Central 1154 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:41.400 pier right first yep. And then September I think I 1155 01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.440 want to get back up to Whitehall. And then October 1156 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:48.760 we have the Park City one in Kentucky that Toby 1157 01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:50.440 the guy, one of the one of the guys that 1158 01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.760 does a big the jar with with me. He's helping out, 1159 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:57.159 he's being you know, he's helping the organizers with that one. 1160 01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:58.519 So I think I want to take a trip down 1161 01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:02.639 to uh Kentucky and you can go back in November 1162 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:04.480 to Kentucky, Kentucky. I want to get down to cryptic. 1163 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:05.159 Very cool. 1164 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.840 Yeah, so hopefully that's what my that's what I do 1165 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.079 on the chalkboard, to my whiteboard, and you know, hopefully 1166 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:14.239 you'll be able to post, you know, sell them off, 1167 01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:15.079 have them off. 1168 01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.039 Well, I think we'll all be able to give each 1169 01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:24.360 other a big bro hug at OBC this year. I'm 1170 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:28.119 looking forward to it because i'm there. I think five 1171 01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.599 of us are going to be there, right Sean, Yeah, 1172 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.079 as far as I know, the internet, so you consider. 1173 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:38.280 Our table and you will have a microphone for you 1174 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.280 and I'm sure we'll do a couple of live events 1175 01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:43.159 and that'll be fun. 1176 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.880 So definitely get Mike and Toby on you know, get 1177 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:50.960 them on that because like I said, they're they're so knowledgeable. 1178 01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.760 And Toby, he's just turned eighteen and the amount of 1179 01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:58.800 experiences this guy's had, you know, being only eighteen, it's incredible. 1180 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:03.719 And then like, well that's awesome, Yeah, that's awesome. 1181 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.239 Yeah, but yeah, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be hopeing 1182 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.000 to be exciting. Here. Have to hire someone to mow 1183 01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:11.400 my lune. 1184 01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:16.679 There you go, there you go, Chuck, I'm looking forward 1185 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.559 to meeting you at OBC and I'll be there and 1186 01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.840 the rest of the five of the Fast Squatch Experienced 1187 01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.639 crew we're going to be there too, So that'll be. 1188 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.960 Fun, absolutely exciting. 1189 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.920 Man, very cool, Chuck, Thanks. 1190 01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:36.320 So much for stopping by with us tonight. Folks check 1191 01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:39.440 out Chuck's show. When can they Where can they find 1192 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:40.679 your show? And when can they listen? 1193 01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:44.599 Alright, so it's ah the pre recorded show. Actually the 1194 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:48.280 last show we did was live, but it's it's usual 1195 01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:51.039 on Friday nights at seven fifteen until the Big Big 1196 01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:55.480 Journal and it's on the Untold Radio Network. And like 1197 01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:58.480 I said, Mike does an awesome job just scaring internet. 1198 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:02.119 We say, we're trying to make it news, a news show. 1199 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:03.920 You know, we'll do like, we'll do the you know 1200 01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:08.320 different uh you know recent sightings, we'll do recent like. 1201 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.719 So it's just I can't Sorry, I'm drawing a blanket. 1202 01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.000 But it's just a making show. Watch it's ten fifteen 1203 01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.360 Friday nights, every other Friday. We do it twice twice 1204 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.360 a month. And then our group, you know, the catch 1205 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.599 Colopillation Research Collective. You can find us on the Facebook 1206 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:29.119 page and then also we're on YouTube. Gwen does a 1207 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:32.480 great job with her show from Behind Told Trees, and 1208 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:34.559 I think she's actually partnered with the Agents of the 1209 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:37.920 Unknown Bill. I think he's part of the channel now. 1210 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.880 So yeah, and then if you see me at one 1211 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.440 of these events, please, you know, come up and say, hey, 1212 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.320 how you doing. I'll give you business cards to you. 1213 01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:48.239 Very friendly. He doesn't bite. 1214 01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:52.440 I don't, I don't. I'm hears a big hug right, 1215 01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:53.559 he's a big hugger. 1216 01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:56.800 He's a big hugger. Henry take us out with those 1217 01:04:56.920 --> 01:04:58.239 dulcet tones, my friend. 1218 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:02.519 Yeah, I'll be good or be good at it. 1219 01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:05.400 Folks, We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening with you. 1220 01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:14.679 You've been listening to Sasquatch Experience. Please rate and interview 1221 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.960 where this podcast has been consumed. To share your experience, 1222 01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.920 visit us on Facebook, our website, or email us info 1223 01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:23.760 at sasquatchexperience dot com. 1224 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:26.320 Keep on squatching.