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Speaker 2: We got someone or something crawling around out here?
Speaker 3: Does a legend walk among us working in the forests
Speaker 3: of our world?
Speaker 4: Did you see what it was?
Speaker 5: Was it a person or an animal?
Speaker 6: Or I can't go?
Speaker 7: Oh, I know that if my thunder light came on
Speaker 7: and I get happened to glen and see this thing
Speaker 7: running across.
Speaker 1: The yard, a good fight man or something works like
Speaker 1: a man.
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,
Speaker 3: and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the
Speaker 3: existence of this mysterious entity.
Speaker 6: Jesus quite.
Speaker 4: Hello, get the body out here? What's going to announce
Speaker 4: their amc about sex? For? I don't know?
Speaker 8: Is he announce yes?
Speaker 4: I'm walking right out? Oh? Okay, hang on, yeah, got
Speaker 4: it's bigger. Okay, what's he doing in your yarn? We're
Speaker 4: gonna do you.
Speaker 3: Join us as we continue into the investigation, of the
Speaker 3: Sasquatch Experience. Good evening, I'm Bill Curtis. No good, folks.
Speaker 3: You're listening to The Sasquatch Experience on Monday night, March thirty. First, guys,
Speaker 3: can you believe March is almost gone?
Speaker 6: It's done, and we're done.
Speaker 3: It is already a quarter of the way through the year.
Speaker 3: The time is flying. Of course, speaking of flying, we
Speaker 3: were just talking about Henry's flight on the way to OBC.
Speaker 3: We're getting there. It's getting to be time, Henry m hmm.
Speaker 9: Indeed it is.
Speaker 3: It's Henry's one of Henry's favorite time of year, and
Speaker 3: it's a game of Russian Roulette where he's gonna end up.
Speaker 3: Will he land at the airport he's supposed to, will
Speaker 3: he make it on the bus he's supposed to. Stay
Speaker 3: tuned for more on this channel on travel Day, so
Speaker 3: you too can find where in the US is Henry Ray?
Speaker 7: Where in the world is Henry May near Little Rocapella.
Speaker 3: Well, guys, we got a good show tonight. It's been
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks since our last programer we talked
Speaker 3: about shooting Big Floot. We talked about justin Smea and
Speaker 3: that scenario We're going to revisit that again soon. What
Speaker 3: a great conversation we had around that And if you
Speaker 3: guys get a chance check back. It's the last episode
Speaker 3: we had not a subject we tackle him before, but
Speaker 3: we're probably going to do it again at some point
Speaker 3: in the near future. But that was the past. Today's
Speaker 3: the present. We got my good friend Chuck Larson joining us.
Speaker 3: Chuck is somebody I've rubbed elbows with at many conferences
Speaker 3: and conventions. He's just an all around good dude. I
Speaker 3: have a lot of fun with Chuck. He's also you know,
Speaker 3: he usually ends up going to dinner with us, so
Speaker 3: he's always there for those fiascos and let us tell
Speaker 3: you we can eat this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but is he ever paid for all your dinners?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Thank god, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: We would not want to do that to him because
Speaker 3: it's a big bill.
Speaker 9: It screws up the rotation.
Speaker 3: Rotation. But Chuck, thanks for taking the time. We know
Speaker 3: your traveling. Thanks for taking the time and coming on
Speaker 3: with us tonight.
Speaker 4: It was my pleasure. Thanks for having me on. Sewan.
Speaker 4: Good to see you guys, and that will be you
Speaker 4: got you got you'all going.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna yeah, we're all gonna be there, including Matt,
Speaker 7: who can't be with us tonight because he's suffering a
Speaker 7: bit of laryngitis.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was on the on that uh pas
Speaker 4: quity a small Town Monsters thing we did. He did
Speaker 4: a little cameo on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yep, Matt, Yeah, we're going to talk about that, Chuck,
Speaker 3: because actually, you know, you're the One thing I love
Speaker 3: about the Small Town Monsters UH programs is that they
Speaker 3: put on a lot of researchers that folks aren't too
Speaker 3: familiar with. And uh, I found your segment on the
Speaker 3: episode really interesting because I didn't know how you got
Speaker 3: into this, and I didn't know you had a sighting
Speaker 3: of something until I watched that episode. So that was
Speaker 3: so tell us a little bit about how you got
Speaker 3: involved with and then we can go into your sightings.
Speaker 4: All right, cool? Well, all right, so I how I
Speaker 4: got involved? Well, I've always been interested in Bigfoot, but
Speaker 4: when you live in an hour from Manhattan, you know, you
Speaker 4: get you get a lot more a lot of the
Speaker 4: stretch and uh, you know, they come up, especially in
Speaker 4: my twenties, you know, I you know, big Foot was
Speaker 4: like the last thing on my mind but it was
Speaker 4: like in the seventies when you know, he had the
Speaker 4: Search show, you had uh, you know Steve, you know,
Speaker 4: six million Dollar Man with Bigfoot, you know, Andrea and
Speaker 4: the Giant playing big Foot. Obviously, you know Star Wars
Speaker 4: with Chewbacca. You know. See, there's always been a cool
Speaker 4: you know, just kind of normally just you know, just
Speaker 4: to be interesting, interested in. And then we had I
Speaker 4: mentioned in the Small Town Monsters. There was actually an
Speaker 4: incident in my county in the late seventies, mid to
Speaker 4: late seventies when there was a tall Harry beef that
Speaker 4: it decided to destroy some families rabbit pens. And that
Speaker 4: kind of hit home because that's right around the time
Speaker 4: when the Passion Gimmon film was was getting a little
Speaker 4: bit of a you know, get a little bit of pressure.
Speaker 4: Obviously it was ten years after the fact, but you
Speaker 4: know you always saw it on like these different scientific shows,
Speaker 4: and it was kind of you know, you always thought, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's the West Coast. I don't worry about it. And
Speaker 4: then this article pops up and it's you know, twenty
Speaker 4: minutes from my house. I'm like, you know, so I've
Speaker 4: always been interested in big but then I kind of
Speaker 4: went away from it for a while, and then you know,
Speaker 4: just recently by five six years ago, seven years ago,
Speaker 4: I started getting back into it. And now my sighting was,
Speaker 4: you know, you said, I can't confirm what I solved,
Speaker 4: So like I said, it's just I could just use
Speaker 4: some you know, deductive reasoning and just be you know,
Speaker 4: like what you know, No, it's not that, it's not that,
Speaker 4: So I guess it's this. I tried taking a picture,
Speaker 4: but you know, it kind of duck down before it
Speaker 4: could take a picture. But basically I was in this
Speaker 4: restaurant in northwest New Jersey called walk Back In. It's
Speaker 4: one of my favorite restaurants, and basically it's a beautiful,
Speaker 4: rustic restaurant with like a lot of windows and overlooks
Speaker 4: the pasture and then the mountain behind it or actually
Speaker 4: say hell, because there's never really down. It's in New Jersey.
Speaker 4: The hill behind it, the ridge is the apple is
Speaker 4: the Appalation Trail, or you know, leads to the Appalation Trail.
Speaker 4: So this one night I was there with my aunt
Speaker 4: and it was in this it was in June, I remember,
Speaker 4: like the first or second week in June, and it
Speaker 4: was hot. You know, it was humid, hot and humid.
Speaker 4: And I'm walking in and you know, I'm basically gonna
Speaker 4: repeat what I said on the on the Small Time Monsters,
Speaker 4: but I'm walking into this restaurant. I dropped my aunt
Speaker 4: off so she can get a table, and I parked
Speaker 4: the car because you know, the parking lot is like
Speaker 4: fifteen football fields along, you know, so it's a massive.
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm walking back. I'm smoking at the time,
Speaker 4: cigarettes and I see these two couples, like kind of
Speaker 4: over couples, looking at each other, and they're kind of
Speaker 4: looking like kind of weird at each other, like, and
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, like, oh, maybe the fighting you made, maybe
Speaker 4: someone you know, walked out of the chair, you know,
Speaker 4: not mad, And so I'm kind of curious, and I'm
Speaker 4: sitting there and I'm watching and watching these people, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, there's like a tree gets pushed
Speaker 4: down and the woods across the street. And it was
Speaker 4: weird because it was like it was, you know, it
Speaker 4: was hot out and humid, but there was no wind,
Speaker 4: there was nothing, there was no le like you there's
Speaker 4: no reason why this tree should be getting you know,
Speaker 4: falling down, And it was weird because the tree, like
Speaker 4: the hill across the way from the restaurant, it's like
Speaker 4: a forty five degree angle. So this tree, if it's
Speaker 4: gonna fall down, gravity should fall down the hill, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. This tree fell sideways, you know,
Speaker 4: it was kind of like, you know, to the side,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's kind of weird. And then you
Speaker 4: hear like these heavy footfalls going up the hill and
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm thinking, I'm like, well, if those
Speaker 4: were rocks getting disturbed by this tree, would they be
Speaker 4: rolling down the hill with you know, with gravity? And
Speaker 4: it was it was kind of rolling going up and
Speaker 4: away from the you know, the roadway. So that's what
Speaker 4: was kind of kind of weird. And like I said,
Speaker 4: I was just basically getting back in the big Foot way.
Speaker 4: I really didn't do much, you know, I was watching
Speaker 4: my Finding Bigfoot and on the TV, and you know,
Speaker 4: I wasn't really doing any research. I was just kind
Speaker 4: of enjoying myself being a fanboy. So why We're at
Speaker 4: dinner and I'm looking over, you know, out in this
Speaker 4: beautiful pasture and I see and they you know, the
Speaker 4: pastor's got like tall grass pass I'd be like three
Speaker 4: three and a half four feet tall, you know, they
Speaker 4: haven't mode in a while. And I see this thing
Speaker 4: stand up in this tall grass and I'm looking at
Speaker 4: it and it was like an argish brownish looking you know,
Speaker 4: it was just what it looked like a guy in
Speaker 4: a gilly shuit. But I'm like, why is there someone
Speaker 4: in a gilly shoot and June, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: When it was hunting seasons in the fall. So I'm
Speaker 4: looking at it and I'm I'm going to reach for
Speaker 4: my phone so I can take a picture. And as
Speaker 4: I'm as I look down to grab my phone, I
Speaker 4: look back up and this thing kind of just it
Speaker 4: kind of just like kneels back down, like it doesn't
Speaker 4: fall forward. And it didn't, you know, it didn't look
Speaker 4: like a deer. It didn't have a snout, didn't look
Speaker 4: like a black bear, because the black bears are jet
Speaker 4: black in Jersey, I'm sure in Pennsylvania other you know,
Speaker 4: there's no There was no black, nothing black about this
Speaker 4: there was. It wasn't greenish can like gillie suits are.
Speaker 4: It was like an orangish brownish, you know color, And
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I'm like, you know, and then the thing
Speaker 4: then this thing disappears and then I never see it again.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, why would you know, why would a
Speaker 4: hunter be dressed like that and then be crawling through
Speaker 4: this tick infested, snake infested field, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And you know ninety degree weather, you know what I
Speaker 4: mean with nine ninety percent humidity, that's just awful, terrible.
Speaker 4: It was terrible album.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not going to be a comfortable uh, a
Speaker 3: comfortable endeavor, no.
Speaker 4: So but so and then then I remember the tree
Speaker 4: being you know, the tree falling down in the front.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, maybe this is you know, for the
Speaker 4: few things I did watch on TV and I did
Speaker 4: the the little research that I did that I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: maybe that might be uh, you know, it might be
Speaker 4: you know, bigfoot. But like I said, I can't confirm
Speaker 4: or deny. But like I said, that's the closest thing
Speaker 4: I've had to a class A sighting.
Speaker 3: So but with all this happening, you know, initially, did
Speaker 3: it come to your mind that you know, crap, I'm
Speaker 3: experiencing a big foot or did you really have to
Speaker 3: think on it, like was your first thought bigfoot? Or
Speaker 3: was it like, man, this is weird it was weird.
Speaker 4: It was weird. Like I said, I was just I
Speaker 4: was just getting back into Bigfoot so I could have
Speaker 4: you know, I was hoping it was big but mebing
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I said, you're always
Speaker 4: you know, he always uh you know. But my first
Speaker 4: thing was like, that's why would there be someone you know,
Speaker 4: in a Gillie suit in summer? You know, and basically
Speaker 4: this crappy weather, you know what I mean? That was
Speaker 4: my first thing. And then where the heck did he
Speaker 4: go after? After? You know, decided to like, you know,
Speaker 4: why would you crawl through these you know, just walk
Speaker 4: out and walk into go to the parking lot. I mean,
Speaker 4: so you know, like I said, it was kind of weird,
Speaker 4: just very very weird to me. And you know, I was,
Speaker 4: I was just starting out with another group and I
Speaker 4: don't want to mention his name, but he lives, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of close to me, uh you know, starting to
Speaker 4: do some investing with him, so like it would on
Speaker 4: my mind. But but then again, but I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm still kind of like, you know, well, I'm an
Speaker 4: hour from Manhattan. You know, this can't be this can't
Speaker 4: be happening.
Speaker 10: So so I have a question for you, Chuck.
Speaker 9: Do you assume that the elderly couple that.
Speaker 7: You saw that was having this discussion was witnessing the
Speaker 7: same thing and maybe saw more than what you saw.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the oh, the two couple of DACA.
Speaker 4: I think they were. I think they might have heard
Speaker 4: something or they might have you know, something must have
Speaker 4: happened because they were looking at each other there, like
Speaker 4: the dumb founded looks like someone said something real rude,
Speaker 4: you say, you know what I mean. But then they
Speaker 4: kept on looking across the street to the to the woods,
Speaker 4: you know, to the ull right. I mean that was
Speaker 4: really heavily wooded. So like you said, they heard a grunt,
Speaker 4: heard like something you know, definitely was was off with
Speaker 4: you know, with all four of them, They've all four
Speaker 4: four of them heard something, you know what I mean. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I was you know, but like I said, I
Speaker 4: it wasn't. That was the last thing on my mind.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking that every day they had a couple of
Speaker 4: couple on board and they said something that at dinner,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what they saw or heard
Speaker 7: that was a little bit more.
Speaker 6: Encompassing to what you witnessed.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming it much. It must have maybe maybe like
Speaker 4: a guttural growl, or must have been something that would
Speaker 4: have shot you know what I mean, like something like
Speaker 4: you know, you I don't think it would have been
Speaker 4: a wood knock because you know, you hear you know
Speaker 4: here treasons, you know, you know, branches hitting each other
Speaker 4: all the time. I mean, I think it might have
Speaker 4: been maybe like a good role you know, just grunt
Speaker 4: or something that was you know, kind of because they
Speaker 4: looked like they were kind of, you know, not not scared,
Speaker 4: but they just looked very confused, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like what the hell was that? You know? So I
Speaker 4: don't thinking it might have been.
Speaker 3: No, I think you make a good point on that.
Speaker 3: You know, I think a wood knock to anybody else
Speaker 3: besides us would just be a sound, right, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: really put a lot of thought into it, but it
Speaker 3: had to have been something that caught their attention. Did
Speaker 3: you go up to them at all? Did you're like, man,
Speaker 3: I don't want to wear these people out, you know,
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 4: Said, I would if I was a little more into
Speaker 4: you know, into bigfoot and add a little more knowledge
Speaker 4: of investigations, I might have gone up and started questioning them.
Speaker 4: But I'll like new jerrys like you talking to them.
Speaker 3: I'm that's that's the town boy and me there chuck.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll go up and talk to anybody.
Speaker 4: Well too. But it's like but then ultimately then you
Speaker 4: gotta be worried about getting master.
Speaker 6: Like you know, yeah that's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So but like I said, I I was a
Speaker 4: little more knowledgeable and a little more like you know,
Speaker 4: if I had maybe a year or two in you know,
Speaker 4: of investigations in in me, then yeah, I probably would
Speaker 4: have been questioning them. Like I said, I was just
Speaker 4: like fresh. I was like maybe two months into it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So like right, yeah, I
Speaker 4: didn't know what that was either.
Speaker 3: So Baker's got a great list of convos starters. If
Speaker 3: you need them for.
Speaker 4: A bring bring to the Obie Stale at the bar.
Speaker 3: He'll bring you all his lines to get some time.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, hey, honey, did you see that hairy thing?
Speaker 11: I saw you guys looking across the looking at me
Speaker 11: from across the thing.
Speaker 6: Music and we just down the toilet.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to call him the Riz here. You know,
Speaker 3: no one's got charisma like James Baker, He's got them.
Speaker 3: I try, he's got them. So you were you know,
Speaker 3: you said you had these these stories happening in the
Speaker 3: like around the Patterson Gimblin time. And you know what's
Speaker 3: interesting about that, Scott is even to our Scott when
Speaker 3: I say Scott, Chuck, we have a lot of reports
Speaker 3: still coming through of chickens, rabbits, small livestock that are
Speaker 3: even Gwen, you know, our good friend Gwen, She's been
Speaker 3: on the program as something's always harassing her chickens. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, do you think there's merit and trying to
Speaker 3: find some way to capture some I mean it would
Speaker 3: be gory if it is. And I'm not saying we
Speaker 3: use sacrificial chickens, you know, but is there like a
Speaker 3: camera trap around some of these some these dens or
Speaker 3: areas are I don't call them corrals, but you know.
Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, especially in the areas that
Speaker 4: are more populated, like you know, like you know New
Speaker 4: Jersey where you know, there's not that much space for
Speaker 4: a big boat sasquash or family of them to sustain
Speaker 4: you know, a living, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 4: sustained food, you know what I mean it's you know, obviously,
Speaker 4: if there's one hundreds and thousands of acres millions of acres,
Speaker 4: then yeah, probably you know, you probably want have to
Speaker 4: do it. But if there's a bunch of farms, you
Speaker 4: know that are like lining where the Appalachious Trail is
Speaker 4: or where you know, these protected lands are, I think
Speaker 4: that would definitely definitely be a But then then but
Speaker 4: then you get the people saying, well, the camps they
Speaker 4: don't you know, they don't go close to cameras or
Speaker 4: they know where the camera is and they stay away,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we don't know that.
Speaker 4: People. That's always people's opinion.
Speaker 3: I mean we've talked about that many times, right, even
Speaker 3: with all the presentations you and I have m seed
Speaker 3: and stood by. You know, we talk about that a lot.
Speaker 3: And I think even as researchers we use that. But
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, Roger Patterson
Speaker 3: and Bob Gimmon may have got one on film, you know,
Speaker 3: And but you know, when you go into that a
Speaker 3: little bit more, and Vance and I have talked about this,
Speaker 3: an awful lot with the Sierra Sounds wasn't because they
Speaker 3: weren't using digital equipment. It was analog equipment, so it's
Speaker 3: not you know, the noise is different noise. You know,
Speaker 3: we don't know, it's just all things that we you know,
Speaker 3: I guess we could call it supposition at that point, assumptions, right,
Speaker 3: But I think it's a good place to start and vance.
Speaker 3: And I have kind of thought about incorporating that in
Speaker 3: some of the research we do. I know, Matt and
Speaker 3: I have talked about it up there, Chuck in the
Speaker 3: as we start, you know, our research area, which spans
Speaker 3: across the entire northern part of the state into your
Speaker 3: neck of the woods. I think it'd be worth trying
Speaker 3: if we get enough of us out there with some
Speaker 3: analy equipment. But we're going to be going to change
Speaker 3: a lot of tape, right you can you get tape anymore.
Speaker 6: That's kind of hard to find. But you know, like
Speaker 6: Sean just said.
Speaker 10: We've had these conversations where it seems though that non
Speaker 10: digital seems to be far more successful than the you know,
Speaker 10: our analogue seems to be far more successful in capturing
Speaker 10: any kind of evidence over digital. Yeah, and I'm going
Speaker 10: to kind of stay with that because it seems to
Speaker 10: be the case, well.
Speaker 12: It could be the way that it processes too, because
Speaker 12: analog has a.
Speaker 8: Larger waveform where digital cuts it off the top and
Speaker 8: the bottom to make the wave which can adjust how
Speaker 8: you hear things. That's like MP three is aren't the
Speaker 8: best if you really want a solid listen of what
Speaker 8: actually went on, a record player actually does better than
Speaker 8: a CD player, right.
Speaker 7: You know that's a good point, you know, and that's
Speaker 7: a good point.
Speaker 3: No, and I give you that go ahead, Vance, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to.
Speaker 6: No, I'm just going to say, I'll give James that.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 10: Uh, depending on the technology of data recording. Uh, it
Speaker 10: seems to me that some of the older technology seems
Speaker 10: to be more significant in capturing than newer technology.
Speaker 11: Well, you lose quality for data space if you can,
Speaker 11: you know, so, in other words, you can get more
Speaker 11: songs on something, but you lose quality. Unless you're like
Speaker 11: talking about a DVD, like a VHS tape compared to
Speaker 11: a Blu ray.
Speaker 4: There's a lot more.
Speaker 3: Work into that, you know, you get.
Speaker 12: Them into the different conversion rates.
Speaker 8: But if you honestly hurt let's say, well, we'll take
Speaker 8: Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 12: If you if you heard the song on a BLU
Speaker 12: ray before it was enhanced. It actually would be sound
Speaker 12: better on a VHS tape because of the way the
Speaker 12: system works.
Speaker 6: Okay, food for thought.
Speaker 7: Sorr, No, No, that that's why I take your opinion
Speaker 7: as gold.
Speaker 3: Liquid gold.
Speaker 12: We got extra money if you took tests.
Speaker 3: Is where it was? Henry? Do you have are you
Speaker 3: still there with us? I'm here? What question do you
Speaker 3: have for Chuck? Well, I don't know if I caught what.
Speaker 2: Here this was.
Speaker 9: Listen how big the area was when you saw this thing?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah it was. It's gotta be like five six
Speaker 4: years ago now, so it's probably right after Uh was
Speaker 4: it right after COVID? Now? It was right probably right
Speaker 4: before COVID, right before COVID because everyone wasn't like we
Speaker 4: weren't all masked up and we were actually able to
Speaker 4: out to go out and have a good time. And
Speaker 4: it was where it was is. It's right next to
Speaker 4: New Jersey. We have High Point State Park, we have
Speaker 4: Stoke State Forest and then goes into the Delaware Water
Speaker 4: Gap National Recreation Area. It's not National Parks Recreation Area.
Speaker 4: And that's all Like the whole area is probably about
Speaker 4: ninety thousand square trying to think acres and so it's
Speaker 4: you know, not a massive area, but you know, for
Speaker 4: New Jersey, it's probably one of the largest you know,
Speaker 4: protected areas we have so and you know, it borders
Speaker 4: right up on the Delaware River, and like you said,
Speaker 4: it does have al running through it. But yeah, it
Speaker 4: was probably around it was inside of this area or
Speaker 4: right next to next to this area. That's probably you know,
Speaker 4: in total, about.
Speaker 3: Ninety thousand square I think, you know, New Jersey kind
Speaker 3: of gets the same wrap that Pennsylvania and New York does.
Speaker 3: They only think about the big cities. They don't think
Speaker 3: about the rural and the wooded areas that encompass you know,
Speaker 3: you know a great part of Pennsylvania, but a decent
Speaker 3: part of New Jersey and upstate New York, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think there's such a rich pool
Speaker 3: of sightings in those areas and some that we we
Speaker 3: don't get. I also wonder, Chuck, and you've been doing
Speaker 3: this research now for a little while and going out
Speaker 3: and being part of different groups, how many reports from
Speaker 3: New Jersey New York are out there that nobody's talked
Speaker 3: about yet. What's your thoughts on that? Do you think
Speaker 3: there's a lot more out there that people haven't reported.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely do, especially up where I'm in in
Speaker 4: Susas County and Warren County, which is I think compasses
Speaker 4: a lot of the able War Gap recreation area. Do
Speaker 4: we have there's a lot of and I said this
Speaker 4: in the in the in the uh you know, in
Speaker 4: Alex's show, but I said, we're very conservative up there,
Speaker 4: and politically yes, but people just they keep to themselves,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like they don't want people
Speaker 4: showing up at the doorstep, you know, if something happens
Speaker 4: in there, you know, on their property that they're not
Speaker 4: telling everyone that they're going to keep to themselves. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've heard stories, numerous stories of pig farmers and different
Speaker 4: farmers that have had something tall and harry, you know,
Speaker 4: climb over there for step over their fence, grab a
Speaker 4: pig and step back over and leave, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And the farmers it doesn't shoot, it doesn't
Speaker 4: go to the police about it. It's just like, all right,
Speaker 4: you can take that one. Just leave these alone, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And then it's like that, and
Speaker 4: you know, so I think there's a lot more sightings
Speaker 4: that people just haven't mentioned and you know fact that.
Speaker 7: No, Chuck, I was just gonna say, I heard what
Speaker 7: a week and a half ago, uh, that there were
Speaker 7: wildfires in the pine barrens, and I'm wondering what that
Speaker 7: may have stirred up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Pie Barnes, that's a whole other monster down there.
Speaker 4: That's uh, you know, there's big pacieties down there. That's
Speaker 4: actually that's his Jersey Devil's territory down there. But yeah,
Speaker 4: that's I'm sure that it's you know, whatever whatever down there.
Speaker 4: It probably pushed it into you know, I'm sure that
Speaker 4: you'll you'll probably hear some more sightings pop up, you know,
Speaker 4: and like you know, a couple of months, maybe a
Speaker 4: year from now, people are more comfortable with it that
Speaker 4: they'll uh you know, yeah, I was in my backyard
Speaker 4: and that's all this thing running in mine, you know,
Speaker 4: just because it's getting pushed out of words you know
Speaker 4: where it lives. But I'm sure, you know, with a little
Speaker 4: wildfires going on in out west to last year and
Speaker 4: you know recently, you're gonna be hearing a lot more
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 3: Too, right Well, And you know, I wondered, I wondered
Speaker 3: why we haven't heard as much, and I thought we
Speaker 3: would be a buzz with it, and either folks are
Speaker 3: you know, really dealing with their own traumas, and you know,
Speaker 3: Bigfoot is not the thing they're thinking of, you know,
Speaker 3: because a lot of people lost a lot of homes
Speaker 3: and we lost a lot of acreage. But you know,
Speaker 3: I think inevitably we will start getting some reports of
Speaker 3: some of the stranger things that may have occurred during
Speaker 3: that time, and even maybe up in the pine or
Speaker 3: down in the pine barrens Toochuck. But one of the
Speaker 3: things I wanted to appreciate that you said, and you
Speaker 3: made it pretty clear what you meant was when we
Speaker 3: talk about conservative areas of the state, we talk about
Speaker 3: just exactly what you said, those hunters outdoorsmen, that it's
Speaker 3: not a political affiliation, by what we mean, it's a
Speaker 3: lifestyle affiliation, like the folks that really keep to themselves
Speaker 3: and they don't want that way of life intruded upon.
Speaker 3: And it's very prevalent in these areas still. But you know,
Speaker 3: maybe almost like a more of a mid Western mentality, Chuck,
Speaker 3: I would say, with the UH way they protect the
Speaker 3: hunting and the fishing, and I think that's very important
Speaker 3: for people to understand why some of these areas where
Speaker 3: we have a lot of reports that just don't get reported.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't want to be known as They don't
Speaker 4: want to be known as the crazy neighbors. They don't
Speaker 4: be known as this. I mean they just you know, that's.
Speaker 3: Get it, because you're kicked out of the hunting club.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 4: They don't want people and they don't want people in
Speaker 4: their hunting out fishing in their strange I mean they
Speaker 4: found a nice honeymole. I don't want to bring people
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 3: No, No, absolutely, go ahead, Vance, you were going to
Speaker 3: say something I stepped on.
Speaker 6: No, I really wasn't. I was just in total agreement
Speaker 6: with what he was saying that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think, uh, you're you're not included in anymore.
Speaker 3: We go ahead and take that mid hour break and
Speaker 3: give everybody a chance to stretch their legs smoking if
Speaker 3: you got them, and folks who are listening to Sasquatch experience.
Speaker 3: Sean Falker Vance and has been Henry mate with our
Speaker 3: guest tonight, Chuck Lorson. We'll be back right after this.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned team A symbol.
Speaker 13: Hey, this occurred to me today I D I D,
Speaker 13: which I had to show to you. That is a
Speaker 13: strange abbreviation when you think about it. I is short
Speaker 13: for I and then D is short for identification.
Speaker 3: Because split down.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 1: Yes, well you know the proper pronoun for identification is
Speaker 1: miss misidentification. I did not need to explain that to you.
Speaker 1: I know you're all smart enough to have figured that
Speaker 1: one out. Well, Happy last day of March to you all.
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a wonderful springtime and surviving severe storms,
Speaker 1: which seems to be quite often this time of year.
Speaker 1: But speaking of misidentification. During a recent National Weather Service
Speaker 1: investigation into damage caused by severe weather, something unusual was
Speaker 1: spotted behind a fallen tree, the appearance of what many referred.
Speaker 6: To as Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: The sighting occurred in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, an area nestled
Speaker 1: with hills and higher terrain of the Allegheny Mountains north
Speaker 1: of West Virginia. The figure appeared to be human sized,
Speaker 1: if not larger, as it walked through the wooded landscape,
Speaker 1: but according to the National Weather Service meteorologist, there is
Speaker 1: no need to worry as to what was spotted was
Speaker 1: likely something purposely staged to add a bit of fun
Speaker 1: to people's lives. Locals said it's rather common for residents
Speaker 1: to create figures out of iron or similar materials, either
Speaker 1: for decoration or to spark the curiosity from passerbys. Now
Speaker 1: while the recent sightings may not have been an actual
Speaker 1: living creature, there had been historical reports of similar sized
Speaker 1: entities in the region. According to the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society.
Speaker 1: Back in nineteen seventy seven, a family driving along a
Speaker 1: dark stretch of road spotted a six foot tall figure
Speaker 1: covered in shaggy, reddish brown hair. When they shine their
Speaker 1: headlights on it, the creature reportedly disappeared over a forty
Speaker 1: foot embankment, never to be seen again. And in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four in nearby Green County, two friends reported
Speaker 1: seeing a seven foot tall creature making catlike noises during
Speaker 1: their bike ride, and in twenty thirteen, a man reported
Speaker 1: seen an eight foot tall creature with caveman like features
Speaker 1: in the far distance. According to the BFRO, Pennsylvania is
Speaker 1: often a hotspot for sightings and ranks in the top
Speaker 1: ten of states with the most reports. The earliest reports
Speaker 1: of sasquatch sightings date back to at least the eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: according to the State of Washington. Many of these early
Speaker 1: cases lacked photos or video. Wait there was no video
Speaker 1: back in the eighteen hundreds. Oh come on, that's just
Speaker 1: as fascinating as a bigfoot itself, so they were often
Speaker 1: dismissed as misunderstandings or gags. Advancements in technology have led
Speaker 1: to numerous modern sightings captured on video or in photos,
Speaker 1: fueling ongoing to bay about the existence.
Speaker 2: Of these creatures.
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Speaker 14: This edition of The big Foot Bullhorn exclusively and always
Speaker 14: on the Sasquatch experience, and as your car seat always
Speaker 14: says to your ass, I'm.
Speaker 4: Tearing we meet again.
Speaker 6: Keep your toe in the mind.
Speaker 9: Thanks Vance.
Speaker 3: Even though the camera has moved, we sean, I don't
Speaker 3: know what the hell it was doing. I was waiting
Speaker 3: for it to come back live anyhow, Welcome back, folks,
Speaker 3: Sasquatch Experience, Sean Falker, Vincent, Chuck Larson, Henry May, James
Speaker 3: Baker is being cock blocked by Microsoft apparently, so he's
Speaker 3: not going to be with us.
Speaker 6: Had the train hit him?
Speaker 3: That he got hit by a train. Anyhow, Vance, thank
Speaker 3: you for the big football this week. Appreciate that not
Speaker 3: only is Vance available for rent, he is full of
Speaker 3: dad jokes. So reach out to Vance NESB for your
Speaker 3: for your all all your event narration needs. But before
Speaker 3: we went to break, we were talking with Chuck about
Speaker 3: his big foot sighting he had in Jersey about six
Speaker 3: years ago, and we were just getting into some of
Speaker 3: the other things that he's been involved with. So, Chuck,
Speaker 3: some you joined the c r C. You can talk
Speaker 3: about that you founded, and so talk about that a
Speaker 3: little bit. How did that come about?
Speaker 4: One of the founders, one of the founders, well, the
Speaker 4: Ferston that I want to mention before, I was in
Speaker 4: that group with guy with Brendan Brown, Sean Wagner, and
Speaker 4: we just got to a point where like we need
Speaker 4: to separate and we decided to start our own, start
Speaker 4: our own group. And I live in New Jersey, seaw
Speaker 4: lives in Pennsylvania and Brenda lives in like the Catskills.
Speaker 4: So that's the Cat's Collopelation Research Collective was born. And
Speaker 4: then the first move we made was getting Mike Lucci,
Speaker 4: who's who I do the Big Fort Journal with. He's
Speaker 4: the host of the Big for Journal, but he's he's
Speaker 4: a great investigator, so we got him on board. And
Speaker 4: then obviously through through Sean, we had you know, Gwen.
Speaker 4: Gwen is a part of the Cats Collopolation Research Collective
Speaker 4: and it's u you know, now it's just basically Gwen's
Speaker 4: basically running and she's she's you know, she's amazing. Mike
Speaker 4: and I have been kind of jammed up with the
Speaker 4: with the Big Journal, which is awesome and I love
Speaker 4: Brindon decided to go some you know, he decided to
Speaker 4: not be part of pick for thenaymore, which is fine.
Speaker 4: You know, we still we're still great friends with him.
Speaker 4: You know, we just you know, you just got to
Speaker 4: a point where he's like, yeah, we're step away from
Speaker 4: big Foot for one, which is it happens people get
Speaker 4: fronts out and you know, so it's uh, yeah, so
Speaker 4: I am one of the founders of that group and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, we we we started off small and you know,
Speaker 4: we got we we we've been growing and you know
Speaker 4: it's like the town with the town of Mike and
Speaker 4: you know, with the town of Gwen, you know, investigating
Speaker 4: and doing this stuff. You know, it's we we've grown
Speaker 4: and we we we we've had some pretty good uh evidence.
Speaker 4: We you know, we we did a investigation now in Alleghany.
Speaker 4: Uh we actually were gonna we're gonna do it in
Speaker 4: the New York side in Alleghany State Park, but we
Speaker 4: ended up in that Allegany National Forests in Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 4: we got these the Sugar Run House, which is Brendan
Speaker 4: who's you know, one of the founders. He was awesome
Speaker 4: with video editing, and he was awesome with just I
Speaker 4: don't know if you ever saw our show this week
Speaker 4: in Bigfoot, Yeah, you know, he did all the video
Speaker 4: editing for that and he's just amazing. So we're put
Speaker 4: we put this we have against twelve minute little docu
Speaker 4: movie or docu docu thing and called the Sugar Run
Speaker 4: House and we uh we sent them out to David
Speaker 4: Ellis out of the Olympic Project and he put him
Speaker 4: through the spectrograph early the other thing he's got. And
Speaker 4: he came back he's like, listen, yeah, we you know,
Speaker 4: we don't, we don't, we don't know what this is.
Speaker 4: Oh and there's not one of them, but there's two
Speaker 4: of them. There's two different right, Yeah, we got two
Speaker 4: different Holls and uh. And it was just it was
Speaker 4: it was just, you know, we were supposed to be
Speaker 4: in New York State, like I said, we they decided
Speaker 4: to go to to uh, Pennsylvania. So it worked out. Well.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting, Chuck, because that whole area has a
Speaker 3: lot of rich history.
Speaker 9: Yes it does.
Speaker 7: And you know thanks to you, Chuck that you you know,
Speaker 7: went to Ellis UH to send that information to because man,
Speaker 7: I'm telling knew that guy.
Speaker 6: He is spot on.
Speaker 7: He is so spot on to identify what is already
Speaker 7: a known creature and what is throwing the arms up
Speaker 7: to the air and say, I I don't know what
Speaker 7: that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have it. Yeah, And it was actually
Speaker 4: made like you know, he made an official statement and
Speaker 4: we had like a letter from it. It was it
Speaker 4: was really cool, it was it was really nice for
Speaker 4: him taking the time time out. I'm sorry Canada with
Speaker 4: the thousands of people? What is this? What is he?
Speaker 4: I mean? So it was the fact that he helped
Speaker 4: us out. Was it was pretty cold, and yeah, David, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: so yeah, we yeah, we were initially like we're investigations
Speaker 4: and productions. And now, like I said, well, hopefully this spring.
Speaker 4: I mean, I lost like seventy pounds, so we're gonna
Speaker 4: be a little a little bit more and more spry
Speaker 4: in the woods. See the red going into the woods,
Speaker 4: because I was just like fast, it was like a
Speaker 4: frigging train wreck in the woods. But now I think
Speaker 4: it'll be a little more spry and not have to
Speaker 4: stop every fifteen seconds to a breathe. So I hope
Speaker 4: to get out and do some more of boots on
Speaker 4: the ground investigation and you know, going to New Jersey
Speaker 4: and Pennsylvania where and obviously you know, if we have
Speaker 4: the opportunity to go to to Allegheny, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 4: do that, or go to Salt Fork and do that,
Speaker 4: you know, go with some of the hotspots. But I
Speaker 4: told Michael Mike, let's let's let's try to like own
Speaker 4: our area and uh, you know, let's see what we
Speaker 4: can find here. Because Mike lives in Westchester County, which
Speaker 4: is you know, just north of the Bronx. And you know,
Speaker 4: so I'm like, let's let's own this area and try
Speaker 4: to you know, prove, prove that lives here or it
Speaker 4: doesn't live here. But I'm I'm assuming in a vacations
Speaker 4: in New Jersey. Yeah, I done. We have a Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's Matt Night's philosophy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: That's why we've put so much emphasis on where we're at.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's not a heavily trafficked area, right, not a whole
Speaker 3: lot of history that people know about, but it's an
Speaker 3: area we feel like we can work, we can get
Speaker 3: to quickly if we need to, and you know, build
Speaker 3: something from it. So I respect the thought that you
Speaker 3: have there, own your area. And when you don't broadcast
Speaker 3: it out to everybody, you know, it makes it a
Speaker 3: little easier too. You can you can kind of keep
Speaker 3: it a little bit more pure. And that's really important too.
Speaker 3: I think we just ran into the situation with a investigation.
Speaker 3: Matt and I were going to really get involved in
Speaker 3: Chuck and we went, we started making plans to get
Speaker 3: out there, contacted the witness, go to go out with
Speaker 3: the witness, and then the next thing, you know, the
Speaker 3: whole area is posted all over the internet from another
Speaker 3: research group, and that you know, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in going.
Speaker 4: No, you can. You know it's like, you know, we
Speaker 4: went up to White All a couple of years ago,
Speaker 4: and you know, you want to investigative. You know, you're
Speaker 4: going to investigative the doing a festival or after or
Speaker 4: right after, right before MeTL there's gonna be so many
Speaker 4: people in the woods there. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 4: gotta and New Jersey. You know, what's the summertime. If
Speaker 4: you know that we just get such an influx of
Speaker 4: people from from the city and just move down below that,
Speaker 4: you know, it's not worth it worth to do investigating
Speaker 4: after Memorial that, I mean, you get the way until
Speaker 4: the Yeah.
Speaker 3: You have the way you're strategic about when you're deploying
Speaker 3: out in those areas. Most definitely, it's kind of that.
Speaker 6: That's kind of how I feel about Salt Fork too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know, I think there's so many that show up
Speaker 7: in that area. Uh yeah, I don't think you're going
Speaker 7: to get a whole lot of activity, especially during the conference.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I just don't know that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It's neat to go to those areas so you can
Speaker 3: kind of connect with them. You get those areas into
Speaker 3: your mental frame and your mental picture, and but to
Speaker 3: go out there and really think you're going to get
Speaker 3: any kind of evidence or have any kind of encounter,
Speaker 3: it's just very slim to none. Maybe years ago before
Speaker 3: the Salt, the uh East Ohio Bigfoot Conference became so big,
Speaker 3: like it was just a couple of hundred, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe one hundred people that would attend it. Maybe Now,
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've been to OBC, and you know,
Speaker 3: all of us have been to at least one here,
Speaker 3: and if you're a listener, you've probably been. If you've not,
Speaker 3: it is literally like a comic con for Bigfoot at
Speaker 3: this point, it's huge.
Speaker 4: There's nothing else around there either. You here, you're there,
Speaker 4: and you're you know what I mean, And it's and
Speaker 4: I tell you because I kicked myself. I always sorry,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 15: I always say it's our WrestleMania.
Speaker 4: It is all right, it is absolutely but uh yeah,
Speaker 4: I told you I was, you know, in my twenties,
Speaker 4: I kind of got away from the whole Bigfoot thing,
Speaker 4: and and uh, I'm kicking my shell because when I
Speaker 4: was like twenty five or twenty six, I was working
Speaker 4: at a private school and I was able to have
Speaker 4: like a few weeks off in the summertime because the
Speaker 4: school closed down, and the buddy of mine drove across country.
Speaker 4: You know, he was uh and it's just you know,
Speaker 4: trying to be just short and sweet, but he basically
Speaker 4: he wanted to get on TV as a reporter. So
Speaker 4: he made twenty eight tapes of him doing news reports.
Speaker 4: And we basically drove to like Denver and all these
Speaker 4: different cities out west, and we'd stopped both you know,
Speaker 4: we'd be like we'd pulled to it down, we'd see
Speaker 4: a TV station. He popped in for like fifteen minutes,
Speaker 4: he got an interview, We got a interview. If not,
Speaker 4: we moved on. But I remember we went over we
Speaker 4: went over the the we camped a big sur went
Speaker 4: over Golden Gate. We took the pch up to Eureka,
Speaker 4: and we took that right because his family lived in
Speaker 4: Mount Shasta, and we drove right through Willow Creek. We
Speaker 4: probably drove right over like where Bluff Creek was, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I should have stopped just at least,
Speaker 4: you know, taking the picture with the big f R somelthing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: but that area that you know, just to bring in
Speaker 4: full circle, that area is probably you probably can't go
Speaker 4: there ever a gole big footing because it's just there's
Speaker 4: so many super enthusiasts that are there year round because
Speaker 4: the weather's nice all you around.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta wait till it dies down a
Speaker 3: little bit again, Chuck, when the bigfoot mania tends to
Speaker 3: start rolling back and it becomes a little bit more
Speaker 3: for the researchers again, not the publicity and the I
Speaker 3: guess the fanfare around it, which is okay. I mean
Speaker 3: it keeps things like us in business like. I don't
Speaker 3: begrudge anybody having fun with it. I really don't, because
Speaker 3: it brings attention to the subject, which is important. But
Speaker 3: if you're doing it from a research perspective, makes a
Speaker 3: big difference. And for your intentions, yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 4: A good scri even good scrown even more now in
Speaker 4: pop culture. I mean, look, you got mount new commercials
Speaker 4: with the Yetty playing kickball, you know what I mean. Obviously,
Speaker 4: Jack Lynx, you know, you know, back in the seventies
Speaker 4: was the big Foot, the Monster Shock ran Elis and
Speaker 4: also others why I got I love Bigfoot, but uh yeah,
Speaker 4: it's h yeah, I'm hoping that you know, he maybe
Speaker 4: he does have a little bit of loals. We can
Speaker 4: do it some investigation. But then again, I hope it starts,
Speaker 4: you know, really starts booming and people more. People are
Speaker 4: more open to the fact that there could be something
Speaker 4: out there. They know, they just don't pass it off
Speaker 4: as you know, we're all nuts, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Right right?
Speaker 4: A couple of my friends think I'm a flat earth
Speaker 4: there because they're you know, because I read Bigfoot. A
Speaker 4: family members think I'm you know, wacky.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: You first I can really talk to about with my family,
Speaker 4: the Bigfoot is my eleven year old nephew or ten
Speaker 4: year old nephew. I mean, so that's about it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone else think I'm nuts. But then yet again, but
Speaker 4: then no one wants to come into the woods and
Speaker 4: go looking for.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot though, So Chuck, I have taken a lot of
Speaker 3: people that would dismiss it and make a joke out
Speaker 3: of it, and turn them into people that will at
Speaker 3: least entertain the possibility, you know, just having them sit
Speaker 3: down and well, you and I have MC together at
Speaker 3: Central Pennsylvania, a big you know, Bigfoot Encrypted festival coming
Speaker 3: up again this August. Cheap plug.
Speaker 4: But you know you're doing You're doing the U m
Speaker 4: C and again again.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, brother, let me know.
Speaker 3: You know, I always need help. It's a it's hot
Speaker 3: in that building, but they're putting air conditioning in now
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's gonna be a whole new system in there
Speaker 4: and everything it would be. I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, Yeah, it's a great event, but it is
Speaker 3: hotter than they'll in there. It is awesome, it is,
Speaker 3: I mean, but it's great because one of the things
Speaker 3: we don't get is, in fact, all the times we've
Speaker 3: been there, Chuck, we've not had one Heckler, No, wee.
Speaker 4: They spend the money, they spend the money to go
Speaker 4: in and listen, and they're gonna listen. I mean they're not. Uh,
Speaker 4: And that's and that's you know, but it's the area too,
Speaker 4: because I think there's a lot of people in the
Speaker 4: area that probably had something happen to them or you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and they're it's building. Well, that's
Speaker 4: right by such Grahatta. And you know I did North
Speaker 4: South has the Alba which.
Speaker 3: South down in the Columbia. Yeah, I go to that
Speaker 3: now pretty religiously. But to your point, you know, that's
Speaker 3: another area of Pennsylvania that didn't historically have a lot
Speaker 3: of sightings, and it's an area I've spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time researching and investigating. You know, I just do
Speaker 3: little presentations in towns like Katawissa. I had one in
Speaker 3: October that had a decent turnout where folks or people
Speaker 3: that you wouldn't think would be interested in the subject,
Speaker 3: or people that would you know, people that you would
Speaker 3: think would probably be more along the lines of hecklers
Speaker 3: that really have a lot of questions, and they don't
Speaker 3: come to you until after the event, when you're packing up.
Speaker 3: That's when they pull you aside and and ask you say, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, do you mind if I tell you the
Speaker 3: story or uh? And that's what's cool about what we do,
Speaker 3: because even if you're bold enough to stand up in
Speaker 3: the room and tell everybody, somebody comes to find you.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't the best one too, because you'll see,
Speaker 4: like their their airs, they're standing up on their arms
Speaker 4: or their eyes start to water, and you know, you're like,
Speaker 4: you can't fake that, you know, I mean, and yeah,
Speaker 4: if I was one of the one of the people,
Speaker 4: one of the cats that finding big but you know,
Speaker 4: or one of the people EXPERTI you know, someone's coming
Speaker 4: up to you know, I'm not that person. I'm just
Speaker 4: a guy that was either em seeing or just had
Speaker 4: a big for sure eye. And they want to talk
Speaker 4: to you about it, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 4: you know, because they know they want to get off
Speaker 4: their chest, right, you know what I mean, and they
Speaker 4: want to know that's crazy, right.
Speaker 3: You get that air credibility about you when you talk
Speaker 3: to folks, you know, in a comfort that they build
Speaker 3: a rapport that's built.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: One of the people that I credit a lot to
Speaker 3: help and get the word out about this in our
Speaker 3: area is Craig Long, the magistrate in Kadawissa, you know,
Speaker 3: Columbia County. And when you have somebody who's a judge,
Speaker 3: you know, a magistrate and judge that is willing to
Speaker 3: put his stamp on this and talk about entertainment, that's
Speaker 3: pretty special, you know. And I think the work that
Speaker 3: we do, you know you're doing investigate. You guys have
Speaker 3: investigated that area out in that part of Pennsylvania. You've
Speaker 3: got Gwen out there. You know, you've hit some of
Speaker 3: these really popular spots.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: The A and F is just a stone's throw for
Speaker 3: where I had my encounters. So like, you know, you're
Speaker 3: you're getting the boots on the ground in the right areas.
Speaker 3: And if there's a place you could go that you
Speaker 3: haven't gone to research yet, what's on your research list
Speaker 3: of the place you have to go, Chuck, where's your
Speaker 3: have to go place?
Speaker 4: I'd like to get up to, Uh, I'd like to
Speaker 4: get up to Olympic you know, the Olympic Peninsula. I'd
Speaker 4: like to get down to like kind of like where
Speaker 4: Lyle is down to, like the Texarcane area, and then
Speaker 4: maybe down into where our RPG is down in Florida
Speaker 4: down there, and then it's watchwatchers to where they are
Speaker 4: too in western western North Carolina.
Speaker 3: You know what from those areas, Chuck that snakes.
Speaker 6: We know Sean likes snakes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got stations Jersey too in Pennsylvania though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the area that Matt and I do our research
Speaker 3: in Chuck has the highest concentrations of rattlesnakes.
Speaker 4: So well. Luckily, luckily they have rattled though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a story for you about a copperhead
Speaker 3: someday that will in person.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know the story and it's fun.
Speaker 3: Van's Henry. You guys got questions for him?
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: My only question is, uh, and I don't think it's
Speaker 7: even so much a question. Is the welcoming of your
Speaker 7: intelligence and your knowledge into this whole community.
Speaker 9: Uh, looking at it in the perspective that we all look.
Speaker 6: At it as. So, you know, thumbs up to you.
Speaker 7: I think that's fantastic that you're looking at all of
Speaker 7: this in the same perspective.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 9: Is this a real entity or is this a hoax entity?
Speaker 7: And that's how I see that you're looking at this
Speaker 7: at and I greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 4: So you got to go in and being humble, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. You got to go in and
Speaker 4: you got to listen to everyone's experiences. You got to
Speaker 4: listen to both sides, and you know every side of
Speaker 4: the You know, it's the flush and blood. Is it alien?
Speaker 4: Isn't this? And that? I mean you know, because we
Speaker 4: really don't know, you know, and tell me know obviously
Speaker 4: there's no experts in this field, a big experts. There's
Speaker 4: experts and how to research, and there's experts you know,
Speaker 4: different state, but there's no real experts in the actual Yeah.
Speaker 9: There's three sides to every story.
Speaker 7: There's there's their behalf, there's the other's behalf, and then
Speaker 7: there's the truth.
Speaker 9: And I appreciate the fact that you said that. I
Speaker 9: greatly appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you know, you just you know, the
Speaker 4: main thing is about integrity and being humble, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. It's an honor to be on the show.
Speaker 4: It was an honor for Alex to ask me to
Speaker 4: be part of the small town Monsters thing. And it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not going to go out and try
Speaker 4: to grab me, know, you know, get more than fifteen seconds.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, listen, I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 4: you guys had me on. I appreciate Linda, you know,
Speaker 4: Linda East for having me on, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, but I'm not going to go
Speaker 4: out striving like, oh I need to speak here. It's like, listen,
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys asking me and if you want
Speaker 4: to hear my two cents and that absolutely, you know,
Speaker 4: if I can join you showing and be an MC
Speaker 4: again at the Central PA thing, would let let's do it.
Speaker 4: And but it's just it's all, you know, you enjoy
Speaker 4: the community and it just just listen to everyone and
Speaker 4: don't try to be like, don't try to make your
Speaker 4: point you know, heard louder than someone else point. I mean,
Speaker 4: you just listen and you enjoy it and make mental
Speaker 4: notes and use some of the stuff that you can use,
Speaker 4: and you know, you find someone something really off the wall,
Speaker 4: then yeah, but then just don't use it as part
Speaker 4: of your your research, you know. But yeah, you got
Speaker 4: all these people that are out there and they're doing
Speaker 4: things right and they're doing things wrong. So take the
Speaker 4: stuff that you think might work and help it help
Speaker 4: with your you know, with your investigations.
Speaker 7: Well, Chuck, I have to embrace that entire opinion, Uh,
Speaker 7: totally to myself, and I assume the others of the
Speaker 7: SaaS squatch experience, but for me personally, I totally embrace
Speaker 7: that opinion altogether.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I like being wrong. I love being wrong because it's
Speaker 3: an opportunity to learn and learning is important and you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, Chuck, we go back to this time
Speaker 3: time again. There are no experts on this topic. There's
Speaker 3: experts in certain applications of things in the field, but
Speaker 3: there's no expert on a field of something that, uh
Speaker 3: just we still can't exist and chucked, we didn't ask you.
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 6: Do you think?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What do you think this is? What do you think
Speaker 3: bigfoot is?
Speaker 4: Okay? I always I answered this way. What do I
Speaker 4: hope it is? I hope it's flesh and blood because
Speaker 4: if it's an alien, probably will I probably hang up
Speaker 4: my boots. So I'm not going to go out and
Speaker 4: looking for something that, you know, I see, I saw
Speaker 4: fire in the sky, I see different alien movies. I
Speaker 4: know what aliens do, do you guys, you know, to
Speaker 4: do to people? I really don't need an eight foot
Speaker 4: pryting with long fingers, you know, deciding to do probing stuff.
Speaker 6: So yeah, right, So.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's it's uh, it's flesh and blood. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to drop it down a rabbit hole with uh,
Speaker 4: you know, he saw and and with you know, the
Speaker 4: Book of Enoch and just you know, it's kind of
Speaker 4: tied into the Bible. And you know, so you know,
Speaker 4: maybe it's you know, I don't want to say they're damons,
Speaker 4: but maybe maybe they're angels, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Or maybe they're just something else. I mean, I really don't.
Speaker 3: Well, it might not be someone's cup of tea. There
Speaker 3: might be something we can pull from that information that
Speaker 3: we can pull from that that can be added to
Speaker 3: the repertoire of of what we use or how we
Speaker 3: explain it, or bring other people closer to it.
Speaker 7: And I'll listen to you using fancy French words repertoire.
Speaker 3: I gotta fix this, Mike, he keeps hitting me in
Speaker 3: the face.
Speaker 4: I mentioned that I was on another podcast and I
Speaker 4: mentioned it, just like you know, people like, well, what's
Speaker 4: big put on the Noah's our But if you if
Speaker 4: you watch, if you read, and you've got Nimrod in
Speaker 4: the Babylon and Babylon Now he was doing all this
Speaker 4: crush reading, maybe it wasn't you know, because.
Speaker 9: That's true.
Speaker 6: This is true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was this great great grand son or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 6: So I stand with you on that whole concept. Yep,
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 3: We don't know, We don't know. It's good to good
Speaker 3: to investigate nonetheless, Henry, did you have anything you wanted
Speaker 3: to chime in? Yes, what's happened?
Speaker 15: And what I want to say it What I want
Speaker 15: to say is is that what gets me is now,
Speaker 15: most big footers don't call themselves experts, but when they go.
Speaker 6: On a.
Speaker 9: Show that's not a big they're not experts.
Speaker 15: They're not any more big experts than.
Speaker 3: You are, right, So why call them that? Well, I
Speaker 3: think it gets people attracted to the subject, that if,
Speaker 3: because a lot of people take flak for that when
Speaker 3: you go and get promoted the goll this is the
Speaker 3: bigfoot expert. Well, now we're not experts, but people that
Speaker 3: promoted don't. Don't say that too often, right a promotional tactic.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I'll make that statement right now. There is
Speaker 7: no such thing as a bigfoot expert. That does not exist.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, And you know there's there's people that have
Speaker 4: had more experiences than others, so you know, their experiences
Speaker 4: might you know, it doesn't make them an expert, but
Speaker 4: it we just make some more knowledgeable of what happens,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Uh, we do the show,
Speaker 4: We do a big Foot journal. Actually, Mike does a
Speaker 4: wonderful job with it. We scour. He scours. I scoured
Speaker 4: some of the time when I'm not worth two jobs.
Speaker 4: But it's uh, we you know, he scoured in and
Speaker 4: we and we tie things into, you know what with
Speaker 4: big Foot. I mean, we're actually we're thinking about with
Speaker 4: the NFL draft coming up. You know, there's a guy,
Speaker 4: there's a there's a guy from the University of Florida.
Speaker 4: Four to sixty four pounds. You ran the forty in
Speaker 4: like five point nine to seven seconds. I mean I
Speaker 4: can't and drive that fast, you know. So we're going
Speaker 4: to tie in. You know, we're gonna try to you know,
Speaker 4: different things going on in the world to kind of
Speaker 4: try it tie it in too, big Foot, you know,
Speaker 4: with technology and all this different stuff. So it's, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I just want you know, it was a
Speaker 4: little quick plugged head. I mean too, but I want
Speaker 4: to give Mike his props about this show.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, Mike's a good dude. We got
Speaker 3: to get Mike on the program. I've I've been in
Speaker 3: the field with Mike. I love Mike. He's a good dude.
Speaker 3: He is a student, definitely a student of the game.
Speaker 3: Like much like Henry May He's probably this generation's version
Speaker 3: of Henry may.
Speaker 6: Allclopedia.
Speaker 9: Hey, Chuck, I got a quick question for you.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 7: Are there any events or conferences that you're going to
Speaker 7: be attending in the twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Year. Yes, uh, well, you know, obviously a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks were going. I'm so agraby I met. I went
Speaker 4: to be good to go to the Old I wanted
Speaker 4: to go to the Penalhio this past weekend, and just
Speaker 4: with my work schedule, I couldn't get out there. But
Speaker 4: I was agra. I went there. I was there last year,
Speaker 4: and you know, I know Bill and I know I
Speaker 4: know Bill well and he's great. And then Gwenn was speaking.
Speaker 4: I'm just pissed that I wasn't able here to speak.
Speaker 4: But so yeah, it'll be OBC in May and then
Speaker 4: I think, oh yeah, I'm gonna be there, and Micha
Speaker 4: will be there until we'll be there, so we're we're
Speaker 4: all gonna be there. I think in June we have.
Speaker 4: There was the Forest County one n PA Marionville.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to get out to that one this
Speaker 4: year because that's that's a that's a big you know,
Speaker 4: that's a big one. Last year I was in that
Speaker 4: I was at. I went to the one in uh
Speaker 4: Mary in North Carolina and in May, so it was
Speaker 4: tough to get out in June because I was and
Speaker 4: I actually went to one in uh the encounter request
Speaker 4: last year in North Carolina. So it was by the
Speaker 4: time June came around, I was like, I got at
Speaker 4: my lawns like three feet high.
Speaker 6: I got the moment there so many Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Then July I'm trying. I think there's this one in Farmingdale,
Speaker 4: New Jersey that actually there's gonna be like, uh Lyle
Speaker 4: is gonna be at it, and I think Myra Mayor
Speaker 4: is gonna be there. August. Uh, I am open for anything.
Speaker 4: In August. I'll probably do August is like when Central
Speaker 4: pier right first yep. And then September I think I
Speaker 4: want to get back up to Whitehall. And then October
Speaker 4: we have the Park City one in Kentucky that Toby
Speaker 4: the guy, one of the one of the guys that
Speaker 4: does a big the jar with with me. He's helping out,
Speaker 4: he's being you know, he's helping the organizers with that one.
Speaker 4: So I think I want to take a trip down
Speaker 4: to uh Kentucky and you can go back in November
Speaker 4: to Kentucky, Kentucky. I want to get down to cryptic.
Speaker 6: Very cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so hopefully that's what my that's what I do
Speaker 4: on the chalkboard, to my whiteboard, and you know, hopefully
Speaker 4: you'll be able to post, you know, sell them off,
Speaker 4: have them off.
Speaker 7: Well, I think we'll all be able to give each
Speaker 7: other a big bro hug at OBC this year. I'm
Speaker 7: looking forward to it because i'm there. I think five
Speaker 7: of us are going to be there, right Sean, Yeah,
Speaker 7: as far as I know, the internet, so you consider.
Speaker 16: Our table and you will have a microphone for you
Speaker 16: and I'm sure we'll do a couple of live events
Speaker 16: and that'll be fun.
Speaker 4: So definitely get Mike and Toby on you know, get
Speaker 4: them on that because like I said, they're they're so knowledgeable.
Speaker 4: And Toby, he's just turned eighteen and the amount of
Speaker 4: experiences this guy's had, you know, being only eighteen, it's incredible.
Speaker 6: And then like, well that's awesome, Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be hopeing
Speaker 4: to be exciting. Here. Have to hire someone to mow
Speaker 4: my lune.
Speaker 16: There you go, there you go, Chuck, I'm looking forward
Speaker 16: to meeting you at OBC and I'll be there and
Speaker 16: the rest of the five of the Fast Squatch Experienced
Speaker 16: crew we're going to be there too, So that'll be.
Speaker 4: Fun, absolutely exciting.
Speaker 6: Man, very cool, Chuck, Thanks.
Speaker 3: So much for stopping by with us tonight. Folks check
Speaker 3: out Chuck's show. When can they Where can they find
Speaker 3: your show? And when can they listen?
Speaker 4: Alright, so it's ah the pre recorded show. Actually the
Speaker 4: last show we did was live, but it's it's usual
Speaker 4: on Friday nights at seven fifteen until the Big Big
Speaker 4: Journal and it's on the Untold Radio Network. And like
Speaker 4: I said, Mike does an awesome job just scaring internet.
Speaker 4: We say, we're trying to make it news, a news show.
Speaker 4: You know, we'll do like, we'll do the you know
Speaker 4: different uh you know recent sightings, we'll do recent like.
Speaker 4: So it's just I can't Sorry, I'm drawing a blanket.
Speaker 4: But it's just a making show. Watch it's ten fifteen
Speaker 4: Friday nights, every other Friday. We do it twice twice
Speaker 4: a month. And then our group, you know, the catch
Speaker 4: Colopillation Research Collective. You can find us on the Facebook
Speaker 4: page and then also we're on YouTube. Gwen does a
Speaker 4: great job with her show from Behind Told Trees, and
Speaker 4: I think she's actually partnered with the Agents of the
Speaker 4: Unknown Bill. I think he's part of the channel now.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and then if you see me at one
Speaker 4: of these events, please, you know, come up and say, hey,
Speaker 4: how you doing. I'll give you business cards to you.
Speaker 3: Very friendly. He doesn't bite.
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I'm hears a big hug right,
Speaker 4: he's a big hugger.
Speaker 3: He's a big hugger. Henry take us out with those
Speaker 3: dulcet tones, my friend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll be good or be good at it.
Speaker 3: Folks, We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening with you.
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