Speaker 1: Yo, What is up? Boys?
Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode of the One Piece
Virgin Podcast. We are so back and we're covering the
newest chapters one forty all the way up to present
or one and forty seven is where I'm up to
with me today.
Speaker 1: We got the boys, Animac, what's up yo?
Speaker 3: I'm back?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah? And we got Goes and what's up dude?
Speaker 4: Yo? I never left? What's up?
Speaker 1: Back?
Speaker 2: Like he never left? So do we want to just
go chronologically? Do you want to start with like some
genuine chronologically?
Speaker 4: Well, I actually that's a good idea. Yeah. I think
I think we're at a point right now in the
story where we're having that part of the arc that's
like building up to the epic nos but with highlights
here and there. That's my overall opinion. Like I wouldn't
I wouldn't go crazy anything in this section, Like I
don't think it was like game changing. It is game changing,
but it's not like those moments like Paramount War and
stuff where we're gonna like remember forever. But I think
where it's leading us to that point because Loofy and
Loki haven't even entered the fight really yet. So I
think that's what we got to wait for to really
get into some craziness.
Speaker 3: Bro, Loki's like half dead yeah.
Speaker 4: No, no, not even anymore. No, Like he was shown
eating its.
Speaker 3: Feeding him meat, right, But this is one.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure in one of them, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah,
this is one piece. I'm pretty sure one of them.
One of the chapters they briefly stopped at Loofy and
Loki and they were both like already and eating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it'll be. But it was also
mentioned that it would take months for Loki to fully recover,
so I don't know if that was just BS or.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's not at full strength, but even
him at like twenty percent is still a beast, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it'll take as long for
him to cover as you think. But sure, yeah, they
could always be the argument he's not one hundred percent,
But will he do crazy shit this arc? And will
he be well enough to do crazy shit this arc?
I think definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even read one piece prob reading like Dune
right now this guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got the book before he did.
Speaker 2: Bro, so in for general thoughts before we go chronologically.
I do think it's starting to pick up this arc.
We obviously got the reveal in the previous episode that
we talked about where we got like the mural, which
was big, and now we're getting more more stuff with Loki,
more stuff with the Knights, and things are finally heating
up on Elbath. We still haven't seen USOP really do much,
but yeah, I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I agree with you. I do expect some
OOSOP character development for sure.
Speaker 3: When the Giants kids saw Louvis for the first time
and they're like.
Speaker 4: Lisan al gaib lisn al gaib Okay, that was a
dun reference this guy.
Speaker 1: I love you, dude.
Speaker 4: He's like me though, like it's like you're reading something
at everything else you do is like you reference to that.
Speaker 3: But you get it because Nika is also foretold to have.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's I hear, like there's that arc type
happens in like so many, so many different works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would in mind if you ever bothered to read it. Anyways,
So Explosion Tennis Ana Matt gets that man, this goosing guy,
he needs to be retired inside.
Speaker 1: No one understands it so bad it's a bad episode.
Speaker 3: Of no one thing like since we're not going just
like chronological job about child, which I don't also love
doing either, because, like like I said, I think it
goes and is right that this is a build up
part of an arc, which every arc has to have
can just be all like you know, ten out of
ten fights. There are some really interesting moments though, like
obviously we can we'll talk about the the God's knights
and crazy powers and like dreams and shit becoming reality,
and like I thought that was cool. But there are
some like individual moments that I thought were really interesting,
such as I think it was one dred and forty
four when they just casually come across an old building
that even the people in Elbaf don't know anything about,
and then Girl Punk says that it's a building that's
three thousand years old.
Speaker 4: Is that the one that looks like the ancient Giant?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like the robot said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is insane because remember the Void Entry is
eight hundred years ago, and then we have some stuff
older than that, like the Space civilization and stuff like that,
like hundreds of years before that, but three thousand years
into their past is way beyond anything we've even hinted
at in one piece. So that to me was super
super interesting, like that opened so many possibilities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love Iraba was actually in there with that.
Speaker 2: I think they're interrupted, of course, because we like to
bed it is teases us with everything.
Speaker 4: Does anyone else appreciate the irony that there's this like
ancient giant robot that's like three thousand years old, even
though robots you'd asso say with the future, No, but.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's been hinted at that the ancient cization was
actually more advanced. Right, But when we say ancient cization,
I thought we met a thousand years ago, like before
the Woid's entry. Now three thousand years ago, Like that's
a whole other ballgame, Like that opens up. You know,
who knows how many Niecas and joy boys there there
have been?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And yea, at least three according to the yes and
that too is only a recent phenomenon. That's only an
lbat that we were first hinted at that there was
at least three. And also now we're being hinted at
that this has been going on for potentially three thousand years,
not just since the Woid's entry, right, so it's like
it's opening up things even more instead of like what
winding down, which is classic Oda.
Speaker 2: Yeah for real because like, yeah, technically Alabasta I think
was like founded thousands of years ago, so the kings
and being passed down and all that, and even like
I think the tree not even the tree in Elbath,
like the tree of like O'Hara or whatever, with like
planted five thousand years ago. So this world has been
going on for a long time. So who knows how
many joy Boys and Nikas and like things have happened
since then and things that could be discovered.
Speaker 4: Agreed, Yeah, it's it's crazy stuff. And I think Oda
is is going to be remembered as the guy who
always short changed how much he thinks he has left
in terms of writing and then how much it's actually
gonna end up being. I think it's going to be
a George R.
Speaker 3: Martin situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to give everyone like some context
of like where this is starting. So at this at
the end of our last podcast and the start of
this one, I think Lufy was still fighting Gabin whatever
Scopper Gabon. I don't know how to pronounce his name.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say Scopper, so I avoid making a
mistake because I don't know either exactly.
Speaker 2: Like Lufy was still fighting Scopper the second Loofy goes
into Scopper's like okay, I give up, and he ends
up giving the key to Loofy because Lufy is hell
bent on letting Loki free, which everyone is just like, yeah,
you don't do that.
Speaker 1: He's a menace.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the chat we have, let's not forget that
Scopper is a lucky man. And yes, as we were
talking about last time he conquered Mount Ripley's so respect
for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could tell just from their interaction between
Loufy and Scopper, Scopper can still hang.
Speaker 1: He's still strong as fuck.
Speaker 4: It's insane, bro, Like I don't like Briggs hasn't read
the latest chapter, but he's getting way more love than Raley.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, really in my opinion.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, yeah, like from women or from Oda, well,
well from women from women from Oda. I mean in
the sense that I don't ever remember being like this
excited about Raley the way he's hyping up Scopper. Now,
maybe it's just because of the few moments he chose
to show up, Raley weren't the best designed as much
as these ones for Scopper, and he has to up
the ante. But I just think like ralely like saying like,
you know, he's no match for black Beard now, which,
like you know, it just seems like, I don't know,
I feel like I'm getting more hype from Scopper than
I've gotten from Raley, at least lately. Maybe his initial
introduction was different.
Speaker 3: But Raley was kind of a training guy, like he
was a training arc guy for Loofy, And then I
did think the him like kind of warding off the
Blackbeard Pirates was cool. But yeah, we're I feel like
Scopper is definitely playing a more active role in like
actually fighting important villains in this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was always like an assistant, we'll.
Speaker 3: Get to this event, you know, we'll get to this,
But essentially Scopper joins the fight against God's Knights within
the chapters that were covering cool.
Speaker 2: I do think I remember this is Scopper's introduction into
the series, like Rayley's introduction, like he was going up
against Kisuu and saving Loofy, and then the training and
like it was it was, it was hype at the time.
Now we're gonna remember that was for like five hundred
plus chapters ago.
Speaker 4: So like the reason he was not as big of
a deal today as he was back.
Speaker 1: Then, exactly right.
Speaker 2: So now it's like the new introduction of someone from
gold d Rogers Crew has to be fighting against relevant
characters at this time and for his introduction has to
be a flex I think the reason thing.
Speaker 4: I think right right now, if they left it at
what we had in these most in the last we
talked about last podcast, they left it at him just
joking and like they know they seeing his potential, but
him just like, oh just kidding, I'm not gonna fight
you guys. If they left it at that, I feel
like he would have had that respect, but it wouldn't
have been like crazy. But yeah, no, they're going back
and because his son was kidnapped. To keep in mind,
he's going to he's actually getting serious and him serious
is way stronger and way crazier than I expected it
to be at his age.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not of this generation, right, Yeah, And basically
how they kidnammed the giant children from the school is
by like a pied piper type power.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I think it's a combination of everything.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: They have the falling asleep, then the arrow I think
is directing their movements below them, and then you also
have the thorns around them so people can't stop them.
So I think everyone's actually using their power in order.
Speaker 3: To carry about the career. Nightmares are becoming reality and
attacking people, right, Yeah, their worst fears, I should say. So.
Speaker 2: I looked it up because while reading, like I knew
like the powers that they had, but I couldn't remember
the names and their powers. So killing Ham induces sleep,
gunk go leads with like has like the arrow power,
and Summers manifest fears apparently if he for they gotten.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. No, Summers, I don't. That doesn't
sound accurate. Was that, like AI generated? I think Summers
is thorns.
Speaker 3: Man manifesting Yeah, fears, Yes.
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Look it up?
Speaker 4: The thorn human? They said it, He's a thorn human.
Speaker 3: Look it up, bro.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'm wrong. I literally is googled it on
tragipt right now, so.
Speaker 4: Chat No, I think in my opinion from the reading,
it seemed that killing Ham is the one that can
not only put people to sleep, but take stuff out
of dreams. So if they have a nightmare, he could
take that creation out of their minds, and maybe he
can influence what they're dreaming about, so he can influence
what he takes out as well. That's when Summer is
like thought about the salt when he was sleeping, Like
killing him is the one that actually took it out.
Speaker 2: Killing him having the sleep induction makes sense with fears,
but I don't know why. I'm looking it up and
it's maybe it's a combination of their powers working together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think that that's what TADJPT might be
confused about. Because he was in as a thorn humans
as in the thorn thorn Fruit. So far we've seen
he can create invisible thorns around people. He rides a
thorn dragon or serpent, whatever you want to call it,
and everything seems to be related for him, specifically around thorns.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you're right. I don't know why. I don't
know if it's because of that dragon thing that he
created or something, but I got confused.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Also, like I think GPT was going off of
like one forty three and forty four or something, So
maybe in the recent chapters it was more clear.
Speaker 4: No, I think a. I think you got to give credit. Well,
you got to keep in mind that AI will take
everything written on the Internet and try to amalgamate it,
and some people could just be wrong or or it
could be drawing on when people are still speculating where
his powers could be, and like putting that in there
as well.
Speaker 1: Makes sense.
Speaker 3: So it's it's killing him the one. He's the one
that can draw fears out of dreams and make them
into reality.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: How do you guys feel about Oral fucking up Loki
while he was in the chain form?
Speaker 3: Hilarious? I love when when when they're like, bro, is
he dead, and ys like, well, if he's dead, then
he wasn't meant to survive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was ruthless, stoic, but like on behalf of others.
That's hilarious. He's stoic always and even when he's the
one getting the pain. But that's so funny. It's like,
if he dies from this, he wasn't meant to. No,
I love I love it, and I do think they're
gonna be bros. But so far, and I don't know
if this will be a stale trope, but hopefully they don't,
they don't overdo it, or hopefully I enjoy more than
I expect to. But it seems right now that getting
beat up is kind of kind of Loki's thing, you know,
everybody in the group has a thing. So but but
it could be just because of the context in the beginning,
but we'll see so far, like he does get beat
up a lot.
Speaker 2: Do we remember why Lufy wants is so adamant about
releasing Loki?
Speaker 1: Was it because Loki.
Speaker 4: Tell him about Shanks and worshs is? I think that's
the main thing, but I do. I do also think
he has an inkling that he's he's not as bad
as people say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lufy is a good judge of characters, so maybe
he's like this seems like a cool dude or a
good dude, and everyone else thinks that he's like Loki's
deceiving loofy, But Lufy is a pretty good judge of
character and doesn't want to think the ard guy die.
Speaker 3: Part of it is also Loki's reputation is being really
strong and also really like evil, So I think, you know, uh,
Lufy likes the challenge.
Speaker 1: Fair and beat him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. He's he's over confident, but it's not even
over at this point. Especially with Loki. I think he
could take him. But yeah, for sure, he's he's confident
that he could handle himself if need be.
Speaker 2: What else I'm trying to see what, like, what else
happens later in these chapters?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm wondering about? Though?
Speaker 4: It will there need to be more enemies showing up
at this point because I just feel like so right now,
Scopper's doing pretty good. Summers was super scared when he
saw him. Like, we can talk about that more later,
But then there's all the other Straw has to potentially
help with Gumko. I don't know, Like I just feel
like abzorrosany uh Loofy and Loki enter the fight, I
feel like it will be pretty one sided. I don't
know what do you guys think about them?
Speaker 1: I kind of agree.
Speaker 2: If Scopper's holding his own and then you bring these
boys into the equation, I think it's pretty one sided.
Maybe they're gonna all get pulled into different directions with
like Albaf being on fire, maybe some other people will
be summoned in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't. I don't see these three as
being the final villains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of this arc. I don't think so either.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And to give way especially is how killing Ham's
design is Goofy as fucked.
Speaker 4: Well his big mom not Goofy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, but that's kind of the point here.
Goofy is kind of the point. I feel like with
Shanks's brother, he's kind.
Speaker 4: Of like he's definitely made cool, so.
Speaker 3: I feel like he will likely be the final villain
or potentially the dad will also show up by the
end of the arc, so like you know, the leader
of the Gods Knights versus.
Speaker 1: True Where is shing Rock right now? Because he was here,
wasn't He.
Speaker 3: Was summoned back to Marie because Marie was in chaos
ever since the reverie and if you remember what's happening,
they've been located by the Revolutionary Army. The revolutionaries are
actually doing something is just off screen. They're basically cut
off all supplies to marije Yan because Marie is all
the way up there, like they need supplies to so
I guess. And also because everyone there is lazy, like
the Celestial Dragons don't make their own food, they don't farm,
they don't do anything, so now there's like chaos there.
Plus they had Kuma going invade briefly, so it's like
chaos over there. So he was summoned back. We didn't
we didn't hear what exactly he was supposed to do,
but it was kind of said like, oh, yeah, since
the revery, Maurice has been in chaos, we need you
to go back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think I'll come back or someone will
come back.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that they pulled him away, which makes me
think Oda doesn't want.
Speaker 1: Lufy to fight Shamrock right now.
Speaker 2: Maybe there needs like Shamrock going to maybe fight like
someone else first, or like some proaction.
Speaker 4: There needs to be. There needs to be something at
the end here, because I just don't see these three
holding their own against everybody. So I if not another
Holy Night, I feel like maybe one of the like
black Beer or something shows up, someone else shows up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also I introduce Shanks's twin brother. If you're
not gonna have Shanks play a role in this.
Speaker 2: Arc exactly, that's why I think teaches them away. I
think they pulled them away so that Shanks doesn't have
to be involved right now and he's been.
Speaker 4: He just Shanks. Oh my god, Shamrock. They literally pulled
a Shamrock Shanks with Shamrock. I just realized, because yeah,
they're like like, oh, we're gonna yeah, he's gonna participate.
No he's not. He's got They literally did that I
all the time.
Speaker 3: It's elbef it's the final saga. I think what I
really has got to stop teasing that Lufy and Shanks
reunion and make it happen in the climax of this arc.
You know, we have you know, the Shamrock and god
Knight situation, the Fank's family connection, so it makes perfect
sense for Shanks to come in and help defeat them
and then finally reunite with Lufy after that. And I mean,
Lufy is a freaking emperor. Now he's got Gear five.
Speaker 4: He's got to don't know if if it wants to
give people that emotional payoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until when it's the final SONGA is the yellbot
far like how many how much many more years are
gonna go well before the end for sure. The teasing,
like the teasing at one I thought was stupid. So
ever since then, I've been saying like it's time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it has to be paid. It has to
be a good payoff. At this point, it's been teased
for so long that it has to be a good payoff.
Where like maybe they're both involved in an arc separately
and they meet up at the end where like, yeah,
like Loufy ends up Let's say Shamrock is fighting against
Shanks somewhere or something, and then Lufy ends up having
to fight Shamrock in Shanks instead, which I do think
it's a good way. Like it's like Lufi has to
should be fighting all the aoncos, but he's cool with Shanks,
so this is a good way of him fighting Shanks
without really fighting Shanks.
Speaker 3: And I mean, you're kind of running out of go ahead.
We're kind of running out of the out of the
villains as well, because Okay, so the Gods Knights are
the villains in this arc, and eventually they will be defeated.
Then all you have left is em and the Gordo Sa,
the remaining ones after Saturn was killed, and you have
black Beard, right, So how many more arcs? Right?
Speaker 1: That's true?
Speaker 2: And I don't think Blackbeard or Emu are going to
be this arc, So it has to be the god
Knights and and Shamrock as well, and maybe so maybe
Shanks will be involved.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, it has to be something big here.
It's Albath.
Speaker 2: It can't just end with these three fucking god Knights,
and I don't I could see maybe the Gore Say
coming or a couple of them or something, but I
don't think it'd be like the end of the gor
Say or Emu Sama in Albath.
Speaker 1: I don't see that.
Speaker 3: At the very least Shamrock versus Shanks should happen. And
then at the end Shanks bluefy reunion or even maybe
Figureland Garling coming in and kind of like fighting Shanks
together with Shamrock and then Loofy backing him up and
then fighting together. I think that would be a good
wrap up to the Albath arc.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anything other than that, I think it was just dragging
it our way too long because I would have said
how many years ago now that it would be five
more years, Like I feel like.
Speaker 4: More than five years ago at this point. Sorry, go ahead, Yeah,
I just want to say I do feel like Shanks
and Black Bear are going to have to.
Speaker 3: Happen at some points.
Speaker 4: Losing this fight yeah, Like I'm just saying I do
think that has to happen because I think like they've
set it up, like the scars are caused reminder of it.
It would be crazy if if we don't get.
Speaker 3: That, and you have a theory that black Beer might
kill Shanks and then Lufi will have to avenge him.
But I think if that is supposed to happen, then
it makes more sense to happen after the reunion and
that gives you even more emotional you know.
Speaker 4: Through or he puts the straw hat on the grave.
But yeah, that that could It would be nice for
us to get that payoff because it was promised to
us kind of, and then afterwards anything can happen, right, I.
Speaker 3: Just remembered a moment. Then I wanted to talk about
Loki and white Beard.
Speaker 4: Hmm yeah yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Like Loki looked up the white Beard in a similar
way that Luke looks up the Shanks.
Speaker 4: No, not white Beard, Zebec Zebec?
Speaker 3: What Zebec wasn't white Beard the one that no Zebec?
Speaker 4: Because the white Beard was there in the was there? Okay, okay,
but he's the one that was Like, bro, aren't you
being too hard on him? He's a kid, and Zebec's like,
screw you, white Beard, shut up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, so I remember seeing white Beard and
then but Zebec was that was that was still under
Zebec's control, right, So Zebec was the one who was
like who Loki wanted to join them? And Zebec was like, no, bitch,
you're like a runt or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he just stabbed stabbed him.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because I remember seeing white Beard, but that's
when white Beard was under Zebec still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's like it's very much parallels Loofy and
and Shanks as a mentor. And they even made that
clear when Loki is like, I understand what it's like
to have a mentor you look up to, but it
would be like if Shanks was had the personality of
the bandit instead of Shank's because like you're a terrible
person but still powerful. So yeah, it's like almost Loki,
is what happens if everyone treats you like shit your whole.
Speaker 3: Life sort of thing. Yeah, and it seems I mean,
there was one moment where Loki was being a dick
to his brother, saying, oh look, my brother is such
a small bitch.
Speaker 4: My older brothers yeah, I know, dicks.
Speaker 3: But but at the same time, he's it's clear that
he's been railroaded and mistreated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's not a saint by any means, and
I'm sure he's said a lot of rude things to
a lot of people, including his brother. But at the
same time, like he's received it, he hasn't just given
it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's very little given it out, I feel,
and mainly received it based off of like he was.
Imagine receiving that your entire life, and I believe.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you just called Lokia bottom.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, at evac.
Speaker 4: I don't get it. Oh, like some kind of sex stuff.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, some type of sex stuff is crazy goes
and you're so funny.
Speaker 3: Tell it's a sexual reference, but it also it could
be extrapolated to an entire person's personality, right.
Speaker 4: I don't I'm a Christian.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, oh, did they already kind of extinguished the
the the atom tree or is it still on fire?
I know Jim Bay kind of took out the fire
a little bit, but it's assumed it already spread way
beyond that.
Speaker 3: The fire was put out, wasn't it. Hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's confusing to me as well, Briggs, because like
they almost made it make it seem like if it
catches on fire, it's over, like you gotta cut the limb.
But then I think they kind of said if it's
too old, so maybe there's a chance if it's not
too old. Because too old I assume means there's less
water in it to save it sort of thing, because
you know, trees hold water. So I would assume that
Olda is just gonna do what he wants with it.
Even if we saw a fire, I assume they could
deal with it unless Oda is like, oh this birt's
too old, we got to chop off this village or
something fair. He could deal with that anyway he wants,
is pretty much what I'm saying. And I don't think
just because the fire was started that there needs to
be like some crazy loss and unless Oda wants to
go for it.
Speaker 2: So what is happening in one and forty eight the
one that I mistakenly did not read before this episode,
Before this thing, anything cool with Gavin? I know Robin
and Gabon were like prepared to fight, yes, after like
rethinking that Scopergaban was not going to continue fighting.
Speaker 4: So Robin did a great job. And she didn't even
turn into her demon form. She just created a clone.
It's like something out of Naruto, and we know she
could do this right with her powers, but she used
it to pull a Kirby from Smash Bros. That's how
I explain it. So she grabbed she grabbed Summers. He
jumped off the edge, right, so like Kirby when you
when it swallows somebody and jumps off the playing arena
in Super Smash Ros. And then she revealed that, oh,
she was just a clone, and then he's falling, so
it kind of seemed like she kaoed him. Obviously she's
not going to get away with that ko but so
he ended up using his thorn powers to have a
thorn connecting him from like around the belly area all
the way way way way way up to where he
fell from. So he's gonna be fine, and he does
actually come make his way back up, but Robin had
to cool moment of actually one upping him for that
moment whatever. And then Scopper is the really crazy thing
because you know their regeneration, they keep talking about it, right,
and they can regenerate from every all the damage and
everything like that Scopper with his axe and he was
so quick that we didn't even see him when it happened,
but we know it was him. Cut his arm off,
summers his arm off, and it did not regenerate. He
commented on it not regenerating. So is it? And I've
heard a lot of bitch Yeah, I've heard a lot
of kind of theories from my own comment section. Like
I even I personally thought it would be something like
maybe an advanced use of conquerors hockey or something like that,
because it can't just be conquerors hockey because Lufi had
it against the Gotos. But some people think it's something
more simple, like straight up sea stone acts or something
like that. I think that would be less hype, but
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: What we do know a coopreck can infuse hockey into
objects really well, right, we saw that with a key.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so imagine infusing conquerors hockey into an object. I
don't know, like that was something around how long the
hockey would be more interesting because remember Kaido said, hockey
is what makes kings right, It's the king of all things.
It beats devil Fruits. So at the end of the day,
I think it'll be around hockey, not seastone, but we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 2: I have a question, where do you guys think then, Like,
obviously it's the last saga, but I just have a
feeling like it's not ending on Albaf? Are we going
to Mary joelenex is that.
Speaker 1: Where we're going.
Speaker 3: Something is definitely happening on Maria, because like I said,
they keep talking about it, and the revolutionaries are definitely
they have their sights a set on, right, So.
Speaker 2: Do you think they make separate thing where the revolutionaries
and Shanks and like Shamrock is going to have something
that happen there, separate to the straw hats, or do
you think the straw hats end up there?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess it depends which way the story goes, right,
because you could do where Marie is next, and you
build on the whole revolutionaries thing, and you know, Loofy
and the others after Albaf join the revolutionaries to fight
the Gorros and the and Emu, like you know, the
battle to overthrow the government blah blah blah, and then
after that you go for the one piece and then
maybe Blackbeard is the rival for trying to find the
one piece.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
Speaker 2: Obviously they would have to go to like to Laughtail afterwards,
and maybe that's.
Speaker 3: Yeah laugh fail. Right, So either that or they find
the one piece first and then they use the one
piece because it's a weapon or something to actually fight
the final battle.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, yeah, well.
Speaker 4: The one piece can't just be a weapon, but yeah,
why because it has to be everything, like it can't
it can't be one thing. Well, you could be that's
the way it was described.
Speaker 3: Spaceship that can be used as a weapon and that also.
Speaker 4: Preserved, you know, has like a spaceship would be a
good one because then it could hold like all the
gold and and everything like treasure.
Speaker 3: But the treasure is probably like all the knowledge and
technology from the people world world.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I thought you were gonna say just the
knowledge gain from the journey or something.
Speaker 3: No. No, no, it's like it's like, oh, how do you
create that artificial sun that powers things for free? Like
that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's powered by that energy that we were
talking about, and it could be a weapon. But also
something that like is able to like be on the sea,
in the skies, maybe even in space, making you truly
free or whatever, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: Ship is interesting and it's like powered by Loofy's rhythm,
because then that's why like they were too early and
Roger couldn't actually use it.
Speaker 3: The question is whether Olda wants the one Piece to
be discovered right at the very end, in which case
all the big Battlesull's happened before, or whether he wants
the one Piece of actually be used as a thing
in the final battle.
Speaker 2: Right, I wish I knew where Albaf is relative to
like Marine.
Speaker 1: HQ and married Mary Joe. I can't fucking say it.
Speaker 3: It would be on the other end of the.
Speaker 4: It kind of feel like we'd be going backwards if
they went to Marisa.
Speaker 3: I almost want then they probably won't be No, but no,
because they're so far into the new world now, they're
almost coming back to the other end. Right.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying like story wise, not even geographically,
Like I feel like we we've been to Marizio, and
I feel like I want to move towards the one
Piece personally, and since those guys can summon anywhere, like
that fight doesn't even need to happen in Mariza.
Speaker 3: I guess. But there are people who believe that Louvio
will somehow destroy the Red Line, right, So that would
presumably happen in Marisa because of the prophecy with Fishman Island. True, yeah,
because Fisherman Island, but you have the Noah, which could
have evacuated the people to the surface. So it's destroyed
because Mauricio and the Red Line is destroyed and the
all blue is created.
Speaker 2: Right, did we recently see something with the Noah and
like the.
Speaker 1: Those things again.
Speaker 3: Noah like ships were on that tapestry.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I need to find a nice map of the One
Piece world so I can understand. I remember like thriller
Bark and then it was like close to Oh my God,
and Marine HQ and Mary Joe.
Speaker 1: Was all kind of close there.
Speaker 2: But they've obviously went to Fishman Island, and they went
to a bunch of islands in the New World, so
I feel like they're very far from there now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, even you'll find if you look for maps that
they're unofficial. So it's still speculative. Yeah, there's a giant
where things are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a giant O map. I feel like so
many people, we don't love to have it like a
huge copy on our wall and just like look at
it and theorize all day.
Speaker 3: You have to create, like it seems like a bad
merch play, but you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no. And I think we didn't talk about Gumko much.
I do think it was interesting that he listens to
Brooks music and she wanted him to be her her
music slave, and he pulled a Zorro and he's like,
I'm loyal to Loofy. I would sooner die than live
without honor. Like that was That was pretty cool moment
from brook And interesting dynamic with Gooko how she's he
wants him for herself, right, And I think it's cool
that all these people want the Pirate Future Pirate Kings
crew members in different ways. I think it's it speaks
well to how good of a crew he created.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: I always love seeing those loyal moments from the crew. Also,
I just realized that for the recording of this one
piece version, I still I still have the nun from Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you said from fire Force. So I've
been recording, Okay, I thought you were gonna say, like
I didn't record.
Speaker 2: Different twich channels were fine, but yeah, I still have
what's your name Airiss from?
Speaker 4: No, it's not Airess like the red hair girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe what's what's his nun's name? Iris?
Speaker 4: Iris? Yes? Iris, you're right.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I thought it.
Speaker 4: I thought it were literally thought you just decided it's five.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Map would be unofficial, right because you don't know exactly
because like they're they're following the different.
Speaker 1: Not log keys what are they called?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my memory log poses, but the new
old log post. We don't know if they're going forwards
backwards like which they're not just going straight all the
time towards the end like like Elbath could have went
like brought us back closer to where we started, right,
They're not gonna be feel they're not perfectly linear.
Speaker 4: In my mind, I always imagine like potentially zig zagging,
but moving forward. I don't usually imagine backwards, like you know, yeah,
like a bit forwards, you know what I mean? But
maybe to the side. But we Yeah, you're right, we
don't know until until we find out, but no, I
think it's it's very exciting right now. I'm I'm impressed
by Scopper. I didn't think Odo would give him as
much love as he's doing because he is a member
of the old generation, but then he involved his son, right,
so like obviously it gets personal. So I was seeing
Scopper shine has been really cool, and honestly, at this point,
I'm just waiting for Zoro and Loofy and hopefully Loki
to get involved.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, I'm excited to see what Loki can
do and were his character go than his relationship with
the straw Hats go.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Loki's too big to ever be a straw hat.
He's not fitting on the sunny no man.
Speaker 4: But like it doesn't matter. They have a whole atom
three here to use, and and the giants build a
ship that that could contain all of them, and Loki
was a pirate before, so one they could create a
ship big enough for Loki.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the thing is they have the fleet now, right,
the straw Hat fleet. Yeah. When we when we talk
about the crew, we talk about like ten crew members,
but it's beyond that now, so Loki could be an
admiral in the fleet with his own ship.
Speaker 2: He could join his brother and they could all be
in the fleet together.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I just feel like I rooted. It
is like nowhere near Loki level. But Mary, we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got get like a new gen or
a new type of giant pirates Alba pirates joining the fleet.
Speaker 1: I could see that happening. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really see Loki joining, but I wouldn't mind
if he did.
Speaker 4: I like him so far, I would I feel like
Hi Rudin would be a better ruler from what we've
seen so far, and low Ki would be a cool
straw hat. But we'll see what happens. Obviously, I really
horrible Loki, right, we only know very little, Yes, but
it's been good.
Speaker 2: Does he still have a sea prism, like the ankle
still on like one part?
Speaker 1: Or is they're all off now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. Now since they started eating, I
haven't been paying attention to that.
Speaker 2: I know they took off like three of his chains
out of the four. I can't remember if they removed
his fourth.
Speaker 4: I'd assume so by now, because like they were folks
on healing him and everything. But I could have missed
it when he was eating. It might have he might
have still been had one just in case. But at
this point, I feel like, you know, there were more
folks on saving him versus containing him.
Speaker 2: Apparently they put them all back on him. I don't
remember that happening.
Speaker 4: Crazy anyway, how can you even enjoy himself? So like
that's the other thing, Like now it's these sea stone prisms.
Things are now seeming less effective than in the past,
because like, yo, if that's true, and he's he's eating
and chilling with like four of them, It's like, what's
going on?
Speaker 1: Maybe he's huge.
Speaker 2: Maybe because he's huge, he's like like less like a
surface area thing. Yeah, it could be a surface area thing.
It could just be like the same thing with getting drunk,
Like smaller things affect you more. When you're smaller, you
get affected more by certain powers and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess there's a lot more gray area there
than I expected would be. With the seastone.
Speaker 2: I feel like a giant can get stabbed and cut
and it's just less damaging because they're gigantic.
Speaker 1: Unless I'm still the area.
Speaker 4: I'm still now wondering like, how a fuck that mountain
Beard survive with that sword through his head? Like I'm
still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exhibit A. They're just different.
Speaker 4: Is it just a gag? Will it be relevant?
Speaker 1: Their brains are actually located in their stomach?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The helmet saved him. Man, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: That's my favorite response to that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, guys, I'm excited for where One Piece goes, and
I do want to see some Shanks.
Speaker 1: I want to see some Shamrock.
Speaker 2: I want to see I'm mainly focused on that I
feel right now, Like obviously black Beard is inevitable.
Speaker 4: Big one for we know that's coming, even with a
less hype for me than black.
Speaker 1: Beard the same right now, but we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 4: Or Dragon. I want Dragon action, yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, some revolution. I feel like Shanks and Dragon are
just the most teased characters.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just memes now there's they've become.
Speaker 4: Shanks and Dragon just kill each other off screen.
Speaker 2: I feel like Oda had an idea for those two
characters and how he wanted to like end them off
and their interactions to be with like loofy and like
their interactions in general, and he's like, I can't do
anything until then, otherwise it's gonna ruin that moment, which
ended up rooting our expectations a little bit because he
in his head he think that'll be like five years,
no big deal.
Speaker 1: Fifteen years later.
Speaker 4: Are you saying, gonna how I met your mother? Us?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's because I don't think it's like how
I met your mother, because those guys had no idea
how long, how many seasons they would have. I think,
I think what it does have a coherent story in mind,
but because of the the way the story goes and
so many characters, you know, certain plot points happen and
they need to resolve themselves in certain arcs and stuff.
So yeah, the big stuff that he has in, you know,
the big picture stuff gets pushed back. I understand that
as a writer myself that you know, you think, oh,
I just need one chapter to do this, and then
it's like five chapters later, you're like, I still haven't
gotten to the thing I was going to do in
that chapter because I forgot or like I didn't think
about all this other stuff that needs to fall into
place first. But at the same time, it is a
freaking thirty year story now, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I think they're just such important characters and he probably
had those big picture things in mind that you're talking about,
and he just can't do it until it gets there.
And like you said, these arcs are just taking longer
and longer and longer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's been an interesting development. But what I do respect,
and I know some people are irritated. I get a
sense from the comments that, like some people are like, oh,
I ended already and stuff like that. But I do
like the fact that Oda is taking his sweet ass time.
He doesn't need something groundbreaking to happen each chapter. It's
he deserves that finish at his own pace because of
how good one pieces best selling mang of all time, Like,
if anyone deserves to take their time with it, it's Oda.
And I hope he does exactly what he wants without
needing to compromise, because if any manga can do that,
it should be the best selling mang of all.
Speaker 3: Time, right, true? Yeah, and at least he's not Georgie R. Martin. Yeah, yeah,
he might. He might be taken a while, but at
least stuff is happening. He's coming out at.
Speaker 2: Least we're getting forty plus chapters a year, you know,
or whatever whatever it may be. We're getting content frequently.
It's not like we're getting two chapters a year, and
it's like, really, this chapter we spend on Brooks.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I imagine you know, people are like I
want to take some month off. People like fuckold, what
the fuck imagine? Fucking is like he was like Georgia R.
Martin's like, yeah, thirteen years later, I I don't know
how to do the next dar guy.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, dude. That's actually.
Speaker 2: Anyway, boys, I'm going to wrap this up. If you
have any final thought that you want to talk about.
Speaker 4: No, no, I gave mine pretty much. I'm excited. I
think we've been building up to the hype moments and
I think it'll really start when Loofy, Zoro and Loki
get involved.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm also excited to see what's gonna happen,
who's gonna end up being the final villain? And yeah,
I was really intrigued by that little detail about a
three thousand or three millennia old structure that to me
is a huge deal, like a small moment that's happening
during fight. So you don't really pay attention to necessarily,
but to me that's a huge deal, because, yeah, what
it is about to give us some crazy shit about
this world that we've been waiting for for twenty plus years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on that note, Dragon is probably still looking east,
Shanks is never meeting Loofy, and let's get hype for
more one piece. I'll see you all next time. Space Cowboys,
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