Speaker 1: Our resident draft analyst, has returned from his travels and Mobile,
Speaker 1: Alabama for the Senior Boys. Is gonna give us all
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Speaker 1: and my intention was to play for the New York
Speaker 1: Jets or Good morning, beautiful people. I'm Paul Listed Paul
Speaker 1: Esdon in Junior aka Boy Green. I'm the New York
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Speaker 1: weeks and all the way through the draft. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: for the majority of the season that will be dom
Speaker 1: C project Prospect, one of the best of the business,
Speaker 1: and he is back from Mobile. He was down there
Speaker 1: live for the Senior Bowl covering it us. I'm doing
Speaker 1: bonus shows and all over the place. He's he's awesome,
Speaker 1: and let's bring him on the show. Dom C joins us, Now,
Speaker 1: what's up, town, Paul?
Speaker 3: How are you, Bud?
Speaker 1: You know, Dom, I'm doing great, And you know, I
Speaker 1: just had a couple of insiders on over the last week.
Speaker 4: You know what I've knowing to to rep you. I yeah,
Speaker 4: you didn't get it. I've been crazy since I've been home,
Speaker 4: but I didn't get a chance. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 4: really watching the interview with Jesse and Anderson. It's a
Speaker 4: little clip where she talks about some of her word play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting because like just on that one randomly,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people say that, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of an awkward thing to bring up,
Speaker 1: which we'll get into a little bit with you know,
Speaker 1: like conversations with players and stuff. You can ask them anything,
Speaker 1: I guess, but you know some things you're like that
Speaker 1: might be a little tender. Not sure if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: want to answer, And she walked herself there. I'm like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about it, I think fans
Speaker 1: would like an insight into that. So, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a really fascinating conversation. And one of the things you
Speaker 1: said at the end of the show, she almost like
Speaker 1: hopped on a soapbox and gave a rant about it is.
Speaker 1: She says she hates because one of her other jobs
Speaker 1: she's done in her past is like an NFL sideline reporter.
Speaker 1: Like it's postgame at the end of the game, she's
Speaker 1: talking to Patrick Mahomes on the field, and she said
Speaker 1: one of her pet peeves is that when a sideline
Speaker 1: reporter is asking questions to the player that someone at
Speaker 1: home would ask so like there was no benefit to
Speaker 1: that person being there in certain situations. So I want
Speaker 1: to spin that to you. What benefits do you get
Speaker 1: from being at the Senior Bowl and what do you
Speaker 1: try to maximize that. There's plenty of people have been
Speaker 1: covering the Senior Bowl from like my house, like other
Speaker 1: places hundreds of miles away. They cover it in the
Speaker 1: way they can. How can you cover it differently being
Speaker 1: there in person, well.
Speaker 4: Again covering it and and really solidifying my evaluations or
Speaker 4: really apples and oranges.
Speaker 3: I go down there truth, truth be told.
Speaker 4: I go down there to solidify all the work that
Speaker 4: I do from from Junior July through January on the
Speaker 4: prospect class. You know, So I watch a lot of tape,
Speaker 4: I evaluate, I write up my evaluations, and then the
Speaker 4: guys that are down there, you know, you'll you'll hear.
Speaker 4: And this is not said judgmentally, so please don't take
Speaker 4: it that way. But I don't know a better way
Speaker 4: to say it. You're gonna see a lot you'll hear
Speaker 4: and see a lot of guys all over the place,
Speaker 4: print media, Twitter, you know, so on and so forth,
Speaker 4: where you know they'll say, oh, you know Paul. You know,
Speaker 4: Paul Esden Jr. Had a great week at at Mobile.
Speaker 3: He kicked it.
Speaker 4: You know, he's moving up my rankings from you know,
Speaker 4: the tenth overall punter to the second. I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: like buy into that modality. I I you know, if
Speaker 4: there's somebody that I don't know about a lot like
Speaker 4: and you know, in specifics for me, there there's a
Speaker 4: there's just a couple guys. I mean, you can't watch everybody,
Speaker 4: you know, when you're when you're in the evaluation process.
Speaker 4: I would love to say that I get through six
Speaker 4: hundred players, don't you know what I mean. So there's
Speaker 4: a couple of small school guys. Gray's Abel for one.
Speaker 4: Maybe that the guy who you know, performed the best,
Speaker 4: the single best performance at the Senior.
Speaker 3: Bowl this week.
Speaker 4: I didn't get to watch a lot of tape on him,
Speaker 4: you know, Jackson Slater, another small SCS kid from Sacramento State.
Speaker 3: I watched zero tape on him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Willie Lampkin, the center from North Carolina, I watched zero
Speaker 4: tape on him. So getting to see those guys is important,
Speaker 4: but more so it's important for the other guys, the
Speaker 4: the Jackson Darts of the world, the Jalen Mill of
Speaker 4: the world, you know, the the all the guys that
Speaker 4: I did watch, because now I can confirm that either
Speaker 4: you know, my eyes and my evaluation of their film
Speaker 4: is correct, or if they're better or worse, you know,
Speaker 4: I earmarket and go back and watch, you know, and
Speaker 4: watch them again to see what I missed or or
Speaker 4: you know, what.
Speaker 3: Was different on film. Because for me, and again this
Speaker 3: is just me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those Senior Ball practices are They're fabulous. There there's
Speaker 4: so much fun, They're so informative, but there's you know
Speaker 4: that the film is still king you know, what they're
Speaker 4: doing in a game situation with you know, in true
Speaker 4: eleven v. Eleven full contact situations, paramounts what what happens
Speaker 4: in you know, in underwear and shoulder.
Speaker 3: Pads, which.
Speaker 1: You know it's uh, it's interesting because, for for instance,
Speaker 1: I've gotten to know Jim Naggy over the years. He's
Speaker 1: the executive director of the REESA Senior Bowl. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that people do a very popular thing
Speaker 1: coming out of the Senior Bowl, they say winners and losers.
Speaker 1: Here are the people that want here the losers. Jim
Speaker 1: Naggy hates that. He hates the label of losers for
Speaker 1: people because it's an opportunity for people to do it
Speaker 1: in a different light. And one of the players you
Speaker 1: mentioned that has gotten unbelievable hubbub and it seemed inevitable.
Speaker 1: It's like something you see and you're like, I know
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. Let you see who it is
Speaker 1: when you talk about this draft class, or if people
Speaker 1: had said, ah, it's a two quarterback race, it's the
Speaker 1: cam Or people out of Miami, or the Sudur Sanders
Speaker 1: people out of Colorado. But the question seemed to be
Speaker 1: who's going to be the inevitable QB three that surges
Speaker 1: up the board because the supply versus demand conversation comes up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and name, according to you know people out there, is
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, the old quarterback, and people have said that
Speaker 1: he went from a second or third round pick to
Speaker 1: maybe he's a top ten pick. Now, Tom, what is
Speaker 1: going on here? Is that real? Is that legitimate? What
Speaker 1: was your takeaway from jack Guart down there?
Speaker 3: Ammobile?
Speaker 4: My takeaway from Jackson Dart and Mobile was exactly.
Speaker 3: Similar to what my listen.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say. I don't want to speak negative.
Speaker 4: These kids are all fabulous, They're they're all ridiculous. They're
Speaker 4: gonna be in the NFL. They're thirty times the athletes
Speaker 4: that you and I are, and and they're gonna make
Speaker 4: a lot of money. And I wish them all the best.
Speaker 4: And I think Jackson Dart has a lot of potential.
Speaker 4: I mean that whole heartedly.
Speaker 3: I really do. I just don't know. I don't see him.
Speaker 4: You know, there's some questions that I have, and some
Speaker 4: of those questions were answered at the Senia Bowl.
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks never come out and light the world on
Speaker 3: fire down there. They got to adjust.
Speaker 4: They're they're installing a new offense, pro style, offense, pro vernacular.
Speaker 4: They got to get you know, rapport with the receivers
Speaker 4: and so on. So yeah, some of them haven't thrown
Speaker 4: since November. You know, it's it's that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So you got to take it with grand as salt.
Speaker 4: I thought overall the group of quarterbacks this year, where
Speaker 4: that you know, the bar was kind of low. You
Speaker 4: can argue that Jackson Dart might have been the best
Speaker 4: one there. Some people like Tyler Shuck, the twenty five
Speaker 4: year old reclamation project out of Louisville, some thought he
Speaker 4: had the best week. I happen to think Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 4: played pretty well, you know, with you know, with some
Speaker 4: warts in his game as well. But you know, Jackson
Speaker 4: Dart has an NFL arm. Jackson Dart has very, very
Speaker 4: sneaky athleticism similar and not component the player play style,
Speaker 4: but very similar to Daniel Jones. You know, one of
Speaker 4: those guys where you don't think he's going to really
Speaker 4: hurt you, but then you look back and you know
Speaker 4: he accumulated eighty you know, eighty yards and a touchdown
Speaker 4: with his legs in the ground. You know, you know
Speaker 4: he's got an NFL arm. Like I said, I don't
Speaker 4: I don't think arm strength is a problem. Is it
Speaker 4: in the elite arm? No, but it's a very good
Speaker 4: one that the problem is mechanically. You watch a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff off his back foot. You watch him kind
Speaker 4: of float in the pocket, not not kind of step
Speaker 4: through and drive. His feet don't match his hips, which
Speaker 4: don't match his shoulder, which really is a testament to
Speaker 4: his you know, his true arm strength because he uh,
Speaker 4: you know, he could still zip it, you know in there.
Speaker 4: I question how he's going to translate from that ole
Speaker 4: miss offense, which is far from pro style.
Speaker 3: You know, Link.
Speaker 4: Kiffin does a good job of of getting guys in
Speaker 4: mismatches in space. So so Jackson Dark just has to
Speaker 4: make a throw, you know. So so I think Jackson
Speaker 4: Dart has a has the potential to really to be
Speaker 4: an NFL quarterback, but it's he's gonna need the Jordan
Speaker 4: Love treatment and and and I'd say his you know,
Speaker 4: senior year or him coming out of college. This process
Speaker 4: for him is very similar to where Jordan Love was.
Speaker 4: Jordan Love had all the athletic talent and the arm
Speaker 4: talent in the world, but he needed to really you know,
Speaker 4: he needed to really rebuild.
Speaker 3: From the ground up.
Speaker 4: His mechanics, and it took him, you know, he needed
Speaker 4: to fall on the right spot, which he did, you know,
Speaker 4: and he got to sit and he got to learn.
Speaker 4: You got to learn how to play quarterback. You got
Speaker 4: to you know, take all the time in the world
Speaker 4: to get his mechanics right. And after three years, look
Speaker 4: at that. You know, now he's a fifty million dollars quarterback.
Speaker 1: So all right, good, yeah, just let me be blunt.
Speaker 1: I guess. So is the Jackson Dart top ten draft
Speaker 1: stock bullshit or the him even in the first round?
Speaker 1: Is any of that? Is that bs? Because that I saw, like,
Speaker 1: for instance, for Jordan Schultz said that he is legitimate busted.
Speaker 1: I'll be a top ten pick out of nowhere wherever
Speaker 1: you had him before. Is that all bullshit?
Speaker 3: I don't listen.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's a top ten quarterback, but
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he's a
Speaker 4: first round quarterback.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So I got Jordan Love to your point.
Speaker 1: Packers traded up at the back end of the first
Speaker 1: round to ultimately j Jordan Love, and I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think we have to leave the inevitable door open
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson, the Raven Straighter back into the first
Speaker 1: round to get him. That fits your options super important.
Speaker 1: So if it's close fit, why not go get your guy?
Speaker 1: I get it. So, yeah, that's where I could see.
Speaker 1: I could totally see back into the first round. Something
Speaker 1: happens on moving the top ten pick. Stuff just seems
Speaker 1: whoa good lord. I see Alan in here in the
Speaker 1: chat saying if the Jets considered dart at seven, that
Speaker 1: we hired a group of absolute fools. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people on Twitter that are saying, Hey, Jackson darts seven.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell, where did all this come from?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little rich for my blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. So one player that certainly stood out, there's
Speaker 1: no question about it, down there at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and had one of those highlight plays, the Marshall thundering
Speaker 1: herd is what it seemed like there dom Ce and
Speaker 1: it reminds me in a much different way obviously. You know,
Speaker 1: Jenavian Clowney had that crazy play in college and everyone
Speaker 1: talks about and a lot of people say it surged
Speaker 1: him to the number one pick. You see this Marshall
Speaker 1: play at the Senior Bowl practice that went crazy. I'll
Speaker 1: pull up the clip for people to they can see it. Haven't.
Speaker 1: But what did what did he do for is he
Speaker 1: secured himself as a top SCORENTY pick in this class.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably higher, Paul, probably higher.
Speaker 4: So Mike Green was was There was tons of guys
Speaker 4: that were good.
Speaker 3: You know, we can sit here and pinpoint a bunch
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 4: But Mike Green, not only with his play on the field,
Speaker 4: but really with his measurements. He came in a little
Speaker 4: bit longer, he came in a little bit heavier, you know,
Speaker 4: ten playing ten pounds more than his listed weight in college,
Speaker 4: you know, in the mid two fifties, mid to high
Speaker 4: two fifties.
Speaker 3: I'll let you play this play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just play at a background wire talking.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know it didn't affect you know, the added
Speaker 4: weight and the length was good, but it didn't affect
Speaker 4: that twitch and that bend that he plays with. He's
Speaker 4: very you know, he's very sudden with his movements. You
Speaker 4: see how he transfer transfers his speed to power here
Speaker 4: and goes right through the chest of of Josh Connery,
Speaker 4: who you know himself is a top fifteen, you know,
Speaker 4: probably a top fifteen top twenty prospect, you know, and
Speaker 4: it's and it's funny. You know, I had a chance
Speaker 4: to talk to Josh Connery, you know, him and I
Speaker 4: sat down for ten to fifteen minutes and really, you know, talked,
Speaker 4: you know, really.
Speaker 3: Got to know him.
Speaker 4: I have a small you know, on my Twitter, there's
Speaker 4: a small you know, three or four minute segment of
Speaker 4: our conversation that I did put on film and off
Speaker 4: the film.
Speaker 3: You know, he brought up this play. Now, what you
Speaker 3: don't know about Josh.
Speaker 4: Connery is he hasn't played right tackle right He had so,
Speaker 4: you know, but he wanted to show it. You know,
Speaker 4: he did it a little bit here and there younger
Speaker 4: early in his career, but you know, he's been primarily
Speaker 4: on the left side. And they asked, you know, the
Speaker 4: the NFL teams and the senior Bowl staffs, they they
Speaker 4: want these guys to line up at all certain of
Speaker 4: course guards right tackle, so and so forth, to show
Speaker 4: a little versatility. The really, you know, you got three
Speaker 4: years of left tackle film on Connory, so let's see
Speaker 4: what else he can do. So, you know, you get
Speaker 4: a guy like Mike Green and you get a guy
Speaker 4: like Josh Connelly, who are arguably in this draft class
Speaker 4: both you know, with top five prospects, you know at
Speaker 4: their position, and you see how quick how Connory is
Speaker 4: concerned about getting to the outside because he's worried about
Speaker 4: that twitch on Mike Green thing and being from moving
Speaker 4: from the left to the right. You do everything opposite, right,
Speaker 4: so your footworks, your footwork's opposite, and he just got
Speaker 4: a little too narrow. He was trying too fast to
Speaker 4: get to the outside, and Mike Green identified it. And
Speaker 4: right when his feet are at the most narrow spot,
Speaker 4: he transforms that speed around the edge to power right
Speaker 4: through his chest and catches them all balanced, I mean,
Speaker 4: and so so Josh talked about that, and you know,
Speaker 4: he said, listen, he said, I'm not going to sit here.
Speaker 4: And he's like, my intention every single play I play
Speaker 4: is to dominate. He's like, but the reality is you
Speaker 4: don't win every single rep. He's like, the the big
Speaker 4: tap away is you know that rep is over, it's
Speaker 4: you gotta keep you gotta keep it moving right. So
Speaker 4: that's the mindset that I loved about a kid like that, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, he's got a viral rep where he gets
Speaker 4: you know, three hundred and twenty pounds. Man gets blown
Speaker 4: three yards off the ball onto his you know, onto
Speaker 4: his tookes, and you know it's such a small portion,
Speaker 4: of course, you know, it's such a fraction of what
Speaker 4: he does, not only on film, but during the whole week.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was one of the few reps that
Speaker 4: Josh Connolly really lost all week, you know, but it's
Speaker 4: the one everyone's gonna talk about. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: in a nutshell after that practice, Mike Green just packed
Speaker 4: it in. You know, his his people told them, you
Speaker 4: put enough on tape. There's nothing more you can do
Speaker 4: but hurt your jas stock and.
Speaker 1: You hate that. I mean, it's an honest thing, which
Speaker 1: I don't blame Mike Green in theory for the thought process, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we check what we need to check off. But you
Speaker 1: as a person that came all the way down there.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of fans criticized against social media.
Speaker 1: He's not the first, by the way, but I saw
Speaker 1: It's happened for years. At the Senior Bowl, You've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of fans go, ah, man, that that sucks.
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean it is what it is like.
Speaker 4: You know, these guys are here showcasing themselves, you know,
Speaker 4: he's met with everyone, he did everything, he put on film,
Speaker 4: everything they needed to do.
Speaker 3: Why why risk it? Why risking injury? Right? Why risking injury?
Speaker 4: What happens if he's on the you know, he's on
Speaker 4: the next rep the next day and he twists and
Speaker 4: ankle or something like that, and now he can't run
Speaker 4: in the combine where it's really gonna effect the stock.
Speaker 3: So I I personally have no problem with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, uh Dom, let's do it. We're teasing it, baby,
Speaker 1: it's time for your very first We did our first
Speaker 1: mock draft last week. Shout out to Russell Brown of
Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros and Betting Pros. He gave us a Will
Speaker 1: Campbell pick. But now we're gonna expand it out for
Speaker 1: old Tom. Let's dive into the deep end of the
Speaker 1: bowl with the old cannon ball. Baby. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: a three round New York Jets specific post Sedior Bowl
Speaker 1: mock draft. Will be using the PFF mock Draft tabularier.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the PFF GUIDs over there, and everything
Speaker 1: on the board will fifty to fifty outside of randomness,
Speaker 1: because I've seen some very weird stuff happen when that occurs,
Speaker 1: I would do can you go yah, I could go back,
Speaker 1: we could go back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just the one thing I would do
Speaker 4: in the randomness, I'd move it up one.
Speaker 1: Tick one tick.
Speaker 4: Ok Yeah, I liked everything else even like you had it.
Speaker 4: And then that the randomness can stay right there because
Speaker 4: otherwise it's just gonna go straight down the Oh.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Okay, So let's let's invite
Speaker 1: a little bit of crazy.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, I'm not craziness, but that's perfect, okay, because
Speaker 4: otherwise it's just gonna go literally right down the board.
Speaker 1: You want to have a little variation, Okay, absolutely, So
Speaker 1: here we go. Three round mock for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Let's get this puppy going. And as far as yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Before we start, I do have a question. You gotta
Speaker 4: you gotta, you gotta give me the premise. You gotta
Speaker 4: give me the hypothetical. Two questions are going to have. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Aaron is Aaron Rodgers back? Are we under the under
Speaker 4: the assumption that Aaron Rodgers is coming back?
Speaker 3: I would say, yes, okay, Are we.
Speaker 4: Under the assumption if Aaron Rodgers coming back? That Tay
Speaker 4: Adams renegotiates and is on.
Speaker 1: The team one hundred percent. I think it's all in
Speaker 1: or all out. If Rogers gone, I think him and
Speaker 1: Devantae gone. If Rogers back him at Devantaira back.
Speaker 4: That and that that makes a difference for me and
Speaker 4: where I'm going to consider seven. So we're playing We're
Speaker 4: playing this game with Rogers and DeVante Adams both back
Speaker 4: and and I want to say into the chat, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to say it right now, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's February third.
Speaker 4: This is not this is not written in stone. There's
Speaker 4: going to be so much. It's an exercise. So don't
Speaker 4: get at me in the don't don't get at me
Speaker 4: in the comments, don't get at.
Speaker 3: Me in the chat. It's just an exercise of what
Speaker 3: could happen.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely right. And you are the GM, so you
Speaker 1: tell us where to go. It'll be up to you.
Speaker 1: Let's just start the draft, and I'm sure everyone will
Speaker 1: make sure they don't do any of those things to you.
Speaker 1: By the way, I will read it real quick. Camp
Speaker 1: Or the quarterback of the Miami went first overall. Sreder Sanders,
Speaker 1: quarterback of Colorado, went second over all to the Browns.
Speaker 1: Came ward to the Tennessee Titans. Travis Hunter, the two
Speaker 1: way player went to the New York Giants at third overall,
Speaker 1: Tech mcmill and the Arizona wide receiver went to the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Abdul Carter pass Rusher extraordinary for Penn
Speaker 1: State with to the Jackdville Jaguars, and Maison Graham of Michigan.
Speaker 1: The interior defensive lineman went to Las Vegas, which puts
Speaker 1: us on the board at seven. What's a thought process here?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: My thought process is that this is probably the worst
Speaker 3: case scenario for the Jets.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah, Now.
Speaker 4: Listen, you're still gonna get You're still gonna get some
Speaker 4: good guys here. Sure, but if the board felt like
Speaker 4: this and you're not, you know, trading back, the board
Speaker 4: didn't fall too well. So my thought process is, and
Speaker 4: you guys got to understand that this class the sweet spot.
Speaker 4: The value is really between you know, picks forty and.
Speaker 3: Eighty.
Speaker 4: That's where the that's where the true value is. There's
Speaker 4: not a lot of value here at the top of
Speaker 4: the board. It's it's just not a top heavy class, right,
Speaker 4: I personally don't think that there's you know, I think
Speaker 4: Bill Carter is the one soul, true elite blue chip
Speaker 4: if you will. That's a that's a terminals to get
Speaker 4: thrown around.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he's the true elite talent in this class.
Speaker 4: I think that there's other real talented guys. Ashton gentis one,
Speaker 4: you know, Ashton Gent is the fifth, my fifth player.
Speaker 3: On the board.
Speaker 4: Yeah, overall, I think he's I think he's phenomenal in
Speaker 4: all aspects of the game.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get spicy here, bres Alvez in the last
Speaker 1: year of his contract.
Speaker 4: Now, well, you know what we'll we'll talk about. We'll
Speaker 4: talk about those kinds.
Speaker 1: Of situator weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, later weeks.
Speaker 4: We'll play this one by the by the uh you know,
Speaker 4: by the by the board if you will.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: So my thought process is, I don't know if there's
Speaker 4: and there. I don't think personally, I don't think that
Speaker 4: there's an offensive lineman worth taking seven here. I also
Speaker 4: don't think that the Jets need to invest high first
Speaker 4: round capital.
Speaker 1: For right tackle for for a right.
Speaker 4: Tackle for alignment again, especially since the depth and the
Speaker 4: juice of this classes rounds two and three. So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna pass on the offensive Lineman. I happen to be
Speaker 4: a real big fan of a mecha Buka, and I
Speaker 4: personally would consider him here. Oh wow, Yeah, But I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna do that either. I think defensive end, defensive
Speaker 4: tackle or both in consideration. And I think Will Johnson
Speaker 4: is a phenomenal, phenomenal player. He's just got to prove
Speaker 4: that he's, you know, back from that lower leg injury
Speaker 4: that they were very vague on before anything. So for him,
Speaker 4: the medicals and the test.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna are gonna matter.
Speaker 4: So he might be my pick if all those things
Speaker 4: clear right here. But I'm gonna go ahead and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take the six player off my board here. People
Speaker 4: are gonna people are gonna get upset about this. It's
Speaker 4: a position that that Joe, the Joe Douglas regime has
Speaker 4: not really valued. I'm gonna take Malachi Starks. And there's
Speaker 4: there's a couple of reasons here, Okay. One, the athleticism
Speaker 4: is is through the roof. I mean, he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: he's gonna test out the way he moves, you know,
Speaker 4: the way he anticipates, the way he breaks, the way
Speaker 4: he plays down hilly. He he's you know, he's violent
Speaker 4: in his movements and in his physicality. He's a ball hawk, right,
Speaker 4: He's he's a he he offers that ability to to
Speaker 4: really turn a game on its head with with you know,
Speaker 4: his playmaking ability.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that he's versatile.
Speaker 4: You know, at six two two hundred, you know, six
Speaker 4: one and a half six two two hundred five pounds,
Speaker 4: he's he's got a really good stocky build that can
Speaker 4: probably take on a couple more pounds even but it
Speaker 4: doesn't have it doesn't hurt that athleticism. You can play
Speaker 4: him single high, you can play him kind of in
Speaker 4: that rover position as a as an overhang safety, in
Speaker 4: the post. You can put him in the box. I
Speaker 4: think he's a you know, he only had a mistackle
Speaker 4: rate under five percent last year. You know, he takes
Speaker 4: a lot of risks, you know, which sometimes turn out
Speaker 4: you know turn out you know to be negative. And
Speaker 4: sometimes he plays a little too over aggressive in over pursuit.
Speaker 4: But when you look at this defense, Aaron, Aaron Glenn
Speaker 4: and especially Steve Wilkes really rely on the back end
Speaker 4: of that defense to to to really.
Speaker 3: Work.
Speaker 4: In Unison, you have got you You're gonna see a
Speaker 4: lot of you know, showing one thing pre snap and
Speaker 4: you know, showing something else post snap. A lot of movement,
Speaker 4: a lot of safety, a lot of safety lightning blitzes
Speaker 4: and zone dogs and stuff like that, which I think
Speaker 4: Malachi Starts is going to excel at. He can even
Speaker 4: line up in the slot and and take out a
Speaker 4: wide receiver. So people won't like the safety pick this high.
Speaker 1: But definitely just Jamal Adams and that may not be fair.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing that Jordan Reid has
Speaker 1: said for a long time. Again, he's always a scout,
Speaker 1: the player, not the helmet. Like you know, when certain
Speaker 1: universities have certain histories with certain positions and you take him,
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, geez, now we're screwed. But everyone obviously
Speaker 1: is individual, everyone is different. But yes, I would assume
Speaker 1: if I was to guess the pulse of fans when
Speaker 1: they see this pick, it will be not good because
Speaker 1: of Jamal Adams safety and that sort of thought process.
Speaker 1: But boy, did the Jets need some safety help.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the room is barren. So you know, as
Speaker 4: we stand here February third, you know, not knowing what
Speaker 4: will Johnson is, not knowing the status and the outlook
Speaker 4: of where Breis Hall lines up in the offense coming
Speaker 4: into his walk year. I'm going to go with a
Speaker 4: guy who I think is going to be a really
Speaker 4: good player. Okay, the sticks overall on my board in
Speaker 4: Malchi Starks.
Speaker 1: All right, Now we jump to the second round here,
Speaker 1: the Jets have the forty second overall draft choice. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'll only read the picks that happened in front of
Speaker 1: the Jets for the first round. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: read all forty eight players that happen here. But what
Speaker 1: position should we be looking through here?
Speaker 4: I you know you can, you can touch on I
Speaker 4: think now is a good time to touch on the seat,
Speaker 4: I mean the the tackle room. You might be able
Speaker 4: to find somebody at the right tackle And I'm curious
Speaker 4: to see who's on the board here. Okay, can you
Speaker 4: scroll down a little bit for me there there's still
Speaker 4: a lot of good guys here on the p so
Speaker 4: I might even pass at this point and hope that
Speaker 4: one of these guys falls to the third But I
Speaker 4: do like I I'm a big fan. Actually, you know what,
Speaker 4: I changed my mind. I'm gonna stick and pick here.
Speaker 3: All right, and one of the guys that you know
Speaker 3: I liked on film, but really really played very well
Speaker 3: during the during the Senior Bowl. A guy who's long.
Speaker 4: You know, you know that, you know that he's definitely
Speaker 4: going to stay at tackle. You know that he's played
Speaker 4: a lot of right tackle, right tackle during his career,
Speaker 4: and he really impressed not only with his movement skills
Speaker 4: being six seven and a half, but really with his
Speaker 4: power that and that was one thing I really enjoyed
Speaker 4: to see. That's gonna be Azzi Trappillo out of Boston College.
Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's one of the few
Speaker 4: pure tackles that can come in and plug and play.
Speaker 1: Isn't he one of the people you talked down there?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a great guy Patriots fan, grew up a
Speaker 4: Patriots fan grass But but but again, a guy that
Speaker 4: I think is really really nuanced in in every aspect.
Speaker 4: And I love the fact that he can come in
Speaker 4: and he can play right tackle.
Speaker 1: Hey, I love that there's a lot of people having
Speaker 1: all these conversion conversations. If this guy could be a
Speaker 1: guard tackle, this that this the other A guy that
Speaker 1: could just get the job done, plug and play. That's
Speaker 1: something we'd like. Now we jump here to the third round.
Speaker 1: The Jets have the ninety second overall pick. Fans note
Speaker 1: this is not the jets original third round pick that
Speaker 1: was traded to the Las Vegas Raiders for dvont Adams.
Speaker 1: This is the Lion's third round pick that they acquired
Speaker 1: in the middle of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: So they have the Lion's third round draft choice here,
Speaker 1: which again is at ninety two. So we got a
Speaker 1: right tackle and we got a safety. Now where are
Speaker 1: we looking down?
Speaker 3: This is where.
Speaker 4: And listen, we might have missed the mark on it,
Speaker 4: and that's fine, and I'll talk about it. Probably the
Speaker 4: deepest right tackle class, I mean, a tight end class
Speaker 4: that I've seen in a long long time.
Speaker 3: So I'd like to look at the tight ends here.
Speaker 1: Just ooh okay, I like that? All right, here we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was, you know, it fell as I
Speaker 4: was hoping. I was hoping that the Texas tight end
Speaker 4: Gunner Helm would slip through. But it looks like he's
Speaker 4: off the board. He's a guy that I've kind of
Speaker 4: pegged as as one of my guys in this class.
Speaker 3: I think he's arguably the.
Speaker 4: Best blocking tight end, but can offer something in the
Speaker 4: past game, very very game, similar to a little bit
Speaker 4: of a faster Mark Andrews.
Speaker 3: I I really like, really like, I really like gutter Hilm.
Speaker 1: And what about my boy, Aronde Gadgett. We're here in
Speaker 1: Syracuse town, Roddy Gadgett. Baby, he's listen. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: an interesting one. I think he needs to show a
Speaker 1: little bit more that he's that he developed and he's
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a willing blocker.
Speaker 3: What I'll do here though, I will stick on the board.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a guy.
Speaker 4: I'm take a guy that I think is a really
Speaker 4: big buzz name here over the past month or so.
Speaker 3: And that's Harrold fan of JR.
Speaker 1: Now all right, tied out out of Bowling Green tight
Speaker 1: end out.
Speaker 4: Of Bowling Green set the NCAA record and receptions in
Speaker 4: yards for tight end seventeen touchdowns over eighteen hundred yards.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that you know can come in and
Speaker 4: work in the past game right away. He's a guy
Speaker 4: that is you know it is a willing but still
Speaker 4: has to develop more so as in Rond blocker. If
Speaker 4: you're if you're rebuilding the tight end room, or even
Speaker 4: if you wanted to bring back Tyler Conklin as your
Speaker 4: inline tight end and Harold Fannon as your as your
Speaker 4: flex guy or working as an h back. I think
Speaker 4: that what Harold Fannon, the mismatches that he can create
Speaker 4: off of linebackers and safeties is a is a real advent,
Speaker 4: is real advantageous to any offense.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So so at.
Speaker 4: This point, like I said, I would like to see
Speaker 4: one of these other guys go, and you can go
Speaker 4: with a bunch of different ways.
Speaker 3: I could have taken the defensive tackle. I think the
Speaker 3: class is deep. I could have taken a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: But again in our situation where we where we have
Speaker 4: Ronty Adams coming back, I don't know if you're going
Speaker 4: to spend a one or two, a first or second
Speaker 4: day pick on a tight end, I mean a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: So I address needs that we have. And you guys
Speaker 4: also got to remember, don't worry about the grades. The
Speaker 4: grades are based off of what F ranks them, so
Speaker 4: on the correct yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, that's important. These are their own
Speaker 1: grades and they're like, ah, you didn't grab the best
Speaker 1: available player according to our systems and you do it yourself.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing a lot of these different simulations. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Thanks for participating, and thanks for
Speaker 1: going down there to mobile For folks that did not
Speaker 1: see it. Again, I'll take this off the screen. We'll
Speaker 1: get back to it in a moment. But right there,
Speaker 1: DC Underscore n Y Jets. You put a lot of
Speaker 1: your videos there as well. I assume you're gonna have
Speaker 1: even more stuff at Project Prospect as well. So yeah,
Speaker 1: live great coverage here, Tom.
Speaker 4: And a lot of stuff out and you know a
Speaker 4: lot of draft talk happened on the Talking Jets Network
Speaker 4: where I you know, have a show at eight pm
Speaker 4: every Monday from now through the draft season where we
Speaker 4: will we will get into these draft classes.
Speaker 3: We'll break them down, so on and so forth.
Speaker 4: So you can catch me on you can catch me
Speaker 4: on my channel, you can catch me on the Talking
Speaker 4: Jets Network.
Speaker 1: Beautiful Tom, Thanks as always, brother, We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1: All right, well bye bye, All right, there he is
Speaker 1: dom C. We'll stay on. Of course we can react
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Speaker 1: it's fair or unfair. I know a lot of fans
Speaker 1: are going to have that Jamal Adams take with Malchai Starks.
Speaker 1: He is a much different player than Jamal Adams. Now
Speaker 1: again me saying that may mean nothing to some of you,
Speaker 1: but positionally here safety obviously, the Jet safety room sticks.
Speaker 1: I mean, Chuck Clark ash to Davis everyone, that whole
Speaker 1: room is going to blow up. So that'd be a
Speaker 1: little rich for me with the seventh overall pick. But
Speaker 1: I like that. You go offensive tackle, Hey, give me
Speaker 1: a right tackle. Sure, I'm all aboard packing up this
Speaker 1: offensive line four of our five starters. Rounder Contract just
Speaker 1: dropped an article this morning from our mock draft Monday
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Speaker 1: We only did a first round mock draft for that scenario,
Speaker 1: but I love that. And then getting a tight end.
Speaker 1: Our tight end room is going to blow up, so
Speaker 1: our safety room is going to blow up. Our tight
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Speaker 8: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: My man?
Speaker 8: So don't be having some interesting takes? Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 10: When Jamal I had first got drafted by us, he
Speaker 10: was good at the beginning.
Speaker 1: He was an all pro yeah, so he want the.
Speaker 10: Five hundred billion dollars and right his way out wanted
Speaker 10: to go to that. It's like a little girl, I
Speaker 10: remember that stuff. But I would not draft the safety
Speaker 10: at number seven if I do, if a game changer
Speaker 10: ain't there, like a Carter right, that's really the main dude,
Speaker 10: I would love to have put him on the library
Speaker 10: McDonald and them. But if he's not there, I don't
Speaker 10: mind trading back to a round between picks nine through
Speaker 10: twelve and grabbing a tight end. Warren, and I'm gonna
Speaker 10: tell you why. Okay, Warn Warren is a throwback tight
Speaker 10: end who can stretch the field. He reminds me of
Speaker 10: Jeremy Shockey, So he can.
Speaker 8: He can, he can jump. You see them games.
Speaker 10: He can jump, he can run after the catch, and
Speaker 10: he helps stop with blocking on the line.
Speaker 8: But here's the main point.
Speaker 10: Where I would like him or Jets fans are talking
Speaker 10: about the future draft a quarterback maybe later next year. Well,
Speaker 10: quarterbacks best friend is two people, the running back who
Speaker 10: can come out the backfield and catch your little little
Speaker 10: drop off or the tight end who's typically working a field.
Speaker 8: Five to ten years in we have had.
Speaker 10: A legitimate to rent at tight ends since I don't
Speaker 10: even remember maybe Dutch, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 10: I've seen Warren with my ice pare. Of course I
Speaker 10: wasn't down there in mobile or none of that stuff.
Speaker 10: But the kid is a baller, and why I lack
Speaker 10: about him? He looks for contact before he runs out
Speaker 10: of bounce.
Speaker 1: He had to.
Speaker 8: And remember, let's not forget this jet fans. Tanner comes
Speaker 8: from Detroit.
Speaker 10: You seeing what they did last year with the tight
Speaker 10: end was hurt all year this year, but last year,
Speaker 10: look what they.
Speaker 1: Did with the tight end y quartering crazy last year
Speaker 1: make Detroit.
Speaker 10: So imagine Warren and this. You know, with these weapons,
Speaker 10: somebody's gonna be open. Garrett Davonte, Warren Breist Hall, my god,
Speaker 10: a tight end would change the dynamic of this team.
Speaker 10: So I would go tight end, maybe not at seven,
Speaker 10: but let me ask.
Speaker 8: You this, Baul.
Speaker 10: After the Master seven, let's just apathetically speaking, they draft
Speaker 10: the Mass and has a year like the Porter had
Speaker 10: the first year in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you gonna be.
Speaker 8: Mad at that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Hellmo? And to be honest, you know again that we're
Speaker 1: drawing back to uh Dustin Keller, which was fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: For God's sakes, you know, we just haven't. It's just
Speaker 1: been it's been dumping tight end. I love Tyler Conckle.
Speaker 1: He's joined my show multiple times, So I like Tyler
Speaker 1: conckleor the person. And he was the best of what
Speaker 1: we had, but we didn't have much. So take that
Speaker 1: for what you will. I would love a pass cutcher.
Speaker 1: To your point, folks, just turn onto the tape for
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren and he is a heat seeking missile. He
Speaker 1: could go out of bounds and then he just peeks
Speaker 1: ahead and he says, oh, there's somebody, and he runs back
Speaker 1: in bounds, trucks somebody, and then you just like he
Speaker 1: is a he is a proponent for contact. He is
Speaker 1: a physical guy. He's a massive dude. He does a
Speaker 1: little gives you a little bit of the block and
Speaker 1: gives you the receiving. It's really intriguing. So no, I
Speaker 1: would not be upset. And obviously there's a lot of
Speaker 1: Jet fans last year that really wanted brock Bowers and
Speaker 1: some people wanted them, some people didn't. And obviously had
Speaker 1: the most historic tight end season we've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people point out that the Raiders didn't
Speaker 1: win many games, but the Raiders suck. I don't think
Speaker 1: that should affect you in any way. Get a player
Speaker 1: that impacts the game, and to me, tight end can
Speaker 1: pass protect, he can run, block, he can catch passes.
Speaker 1: He just affects the game in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: I'd be very compelled if the Jets said, hey man,
Speaker 1: we're rocking with Tyler Warren. It's hard to get mad
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 8: I like him, and you.
Speaker 10: Know, and that's seven, Okay, at seven, it should be
Speaker 10: a no miss prospect. There's really nobody else aside from
Speaker 10: abduw CARDI. Yeah, I know the Mason Graham.
Speaker 8: He's good.
Speaker 10: I think by By Williams he'll be good. He's not
Speaker 10: my favorite type of player. I like the cornerback for Michigan,
Speaker 10: this Gulb. Yeah, well, already coming into the league with
Speaker 10: injury issues. I don't like cast lipping into the NFL.
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know, it's kind of suspect. I
Speaker 8: don't like that.
Speaker 10: So then who else is really out there? You know,
Speaker 10: we're not gonna get the quarterbacks. They're gonna order smoking
Speaker 10: the smoke screens they go. I got shut or going
Speaker 10: to the Giants. I thou pass up on him, came
Speaker 10: in Tennessee. So who's really out there? I like Warren
Speaker 10: to me, he's the To me, he's as close to
Speaker 10: aenmous draft pick as anybody in his class, aside from Carter.
Speaker 10: Like I said, because of his physicality, and he has
Speaker 10: the hands of a wide receiver typically tight ends like
Speaker 10: to body catch, no not water. He he statches out
Speaker 10: the air. Give me warmn you know. Let me ask
Speaker 10: you a question, portal. Yeah, how do you feel about
Speaker 10: I really like the passing game coordinator that we picked them.
Speaker 8: It's the North Turner son.
Speaker 10: For those that don't know North Turner, listen, forget about
Speaker 10: him being an HC. He's the perfect example of a
Speaker 10: coach who should always stay, you know, as an assistant.
Speaker 10: North's a disgusting, downright dirty play call.
Speaker 8: I've seen him have teams in disarray before. Would you
Speaker 8: like him?
Speaker 10: What do you think about his son being the o
Speaker 10: C pairing them up with Tanner. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to exactly what you just said. Scott Turner,
Speaker 1: the son of North Turner again people. For those who
Speaker 1: aren't old enough to remember North Turner again, look up
Speaker 1: some of the North. Turner work with the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: and those Super Bowl teams. He's a he did a
Speaker 1: pretty nice job. But no, the fact that what people
Speaker 1: forget is Scott Turner was in the running to be
Speaker 1: the Jets OC. He was in that conversation and while
Speaker 1: obviously didn't get the job, that obviously went to Tanner Angstrand.
Speaker 1: The thing that I love is at Scott Turner as
Speaker 1: the Jets passing game corner of this happened yesterday. He's
Speaker 1: forty two, He's called plays for multiple teams. He last season,
Speaker 1: with all the firings that happened to Las Vegas the
Speaker 1: middle of the year, he was promoted to interramoec So
Speaker 1: I think with Tanner Angstran, a guy that has not
Speaker 1: called plays at the NFL level, he has called plays before,
Speaker 1: He's called him in college, he's called him in the
Speaker 1: now defunct XFL that's now the UFL, but it's not
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. To have a guy at Scott
Speaker 1: Turner who's the son of an NFL legend, who has
Speaker 1: called plays at the league level, having him in the room,
Speaker 1: I think is exactly what we're talking about here. Now
Speaker 1: we don't have to go crazy. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: the greatest higher of all time. I don't have to
Speaker 1: go there. But he was in the running for the
Speaker 1: jets o seed job. The fact that they got both
Speaker 1: two guys that a lot of Jet fans software attractive,
Speaker 1: a Tanner Angstrand and Scotcher I think helped so one
Speaker 1: hundred percent bring him in to surface.
Speaker 8: They got three guys.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but let me bring up the Seattle quarterbacks Coase.
Speaker 10: Not him, not him, mister North, because you know Pop
Speaker 10: Dukes is gonna be.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true. Yeah, Norm's thing. I'm pretty sure they
Speaker 1: had him officially on the staff. Let me confirm. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure the had him officially on the staff last
Speaker 1: year as a consultant. Let me confirm, Yes, they had
Speaker 1: him as a senior advisor. So it sounds like we
Speaker 1: could be bringing in North turn to two. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's been official yet, but he was a
Speaker 1: senior advisor for the Raiders last year and he is
Speaker 1: just again people look up. He was a two time
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. He had all kinds of success, had
Speaker 1: been coaching in football since nineteen seventy five, with little
Speaker 1: breaks in between. He did have like a middle a
Speaker 1: mini retirement for lack of a better word. He served
Speaker 1: as a special assistant to the Carolina Panthers in twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen that he didn't He didn't have an NFL gig
Speaker 1: until this past season, where he linked up with the
Speaker 1: Raiders again as a senior advisor, obviously to work with
Speaker 1: his son. So I like a guy with the play
Speaker 1: calling experience to be in the room again. I don't
Speaker 1: think we have to overreact and called the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1: But I like that he has experienced.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think that was a very nice
Speaker 10: hire by Avon Glenn. I like the way things are looking.
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna lie. I'm very I'm getting more excited
Speaker 10: by the day. And so far, you know, Moojie still
Speaker 10: hasn't this. You know, Mojie's collabing with him with Glenn.
Speaker 10: So far, I can't wait to see what Moogie does
Speaker 10: in the draft. I'm really excited about that because I
Speaker 10: think we got the pieces. I think the staff is
Speaker 10: basically in place. But like I said, I'm gonna pound
Speaker 10: the table for warming. Oh by the way, before I leave,
Speaker 10: remember I told you when Jake about my quarterback sneaky pick.
Speaker 8: The kids from Canada.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yesterday Jake cast someone on his show who was
Speaker 10: at the Senior Bowl. Okay, and I didn't agree with
Speaker 10: his take on Aaron Rodgers. It wants Aaron Rodgers out almost.
Speaker 8: I was shit to bed.
Speaker 10: I was so pissed off at him. So I got
Speaker 10: on and I scoed him a little bit for his behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did ask him.
Speaker 10: I said, out of all the Senior Bowl people, who
Speaker 10: did you like as the secondary and who would you
Speaker 10: say as a good late round developmental quarterback?
Speaker 8: He me and my boy from Canada.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 10: Okay, so I'm trying to Jets fans just look into him,
Speaker 10: six ' six with a gun on him.
Speaker 8: He's second.
Speaker 10: He was inconsistent because of course nerves. He's from Canada
Speaker 10: coming down here with the big dogs. But yes, six
Speaker 10: with a gun, so check him out.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll do Jude, great call and as passionate as always,
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Wonderful. Let's get to another call, and
Speaker 1: I'll also get to something about you know, o optimism
Speaker 1: and positivity and things of the coaching staff. I have
Speaker 1: something to say about that. We'll get to that in
Speaker 1: a second. Not from something June said so when someone
Speaker 1: else out on social media that went sort of viral
Speaker 1: on the jets. We'll get into that. Let's get back
Speaker 1: to the fellow's hap joy to hear on the show.
Speaker 1: What's upp Good morning.
Speaker 8: Hey Paul, good morning. I wouldn't mind Warren.
Speaker 7: I mean I like him actually better than I think
Speaker 7: he has then Bowers. I think he could actually block
Speaker 7: better than Bowers.
Speaker 1: I'm all about that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and I think that would be Briest would
Speaker 7: love that. Have a nice tight end out there and
Speaker 7: check down. As far as dom C, I think dom
Speaker 7: C deserves his own uh, dom Z deserves his own
Speaker 7: like little song before when he comes.
Speaker 1: On, Hey, I'm all aboard.
Speaker 7: I think I'm thinking dom C should be is the
Speaker 7: is the Godfather of the draft. We should play the
Speaker 7: Godfather theme every time he comes on. It should be
Speaker 7: like and here he is. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I love the dom What.
Speaker 5: Do you take?
Speaker 1: That'd be terrific. I love interest for people. That's a
Speaker 1: that's that's wonderful. I love that.
Speaker 7: All right, guys, I'll see you on the rebound.
Speaker 1: Just check it out right, all right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your pal. Thanks for calling in and we
Speaker 1: got more calls and I'll get to all you guys
Speaker 1: for the second. But I saw this yesterday at social media,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 5: What is this?
Speaker 1: Now? This person has to me blocked, so I I
Speaker 1: couldn't interact with this person directly, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: throw it up here on the scrip. Uh Glenn Notton.
Speaker 1: He does a Jet Nation radio and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So JN Radio underscore Glenn again, he has me blocked
Speaker 1: from a bunch of years ago. I guess I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what I did, but any who, he tweeted this out.
Speaker 1: I envy any New York Jets fan who can look
Speaker 1: at this and feel any degree of optimism. The head
Speaker 1: coach has never coached a game. The GM has never
Speaker 1: picked a player, and skipped the Senior Bowl. The OC
Speaker 1: has never called plays. The special teams coach has never
Speaker 1: called players. The quarterback coach has a horrible record and
Speaker 1: played RB. The online coach is a horrible limited record
Speaker 1: and played tight end. The DC is a solid history.
Speaker 1: And basically, like, if any Jet fan is optimistic, you're
Speaker 1: a boob. And I just want to come out and
Speaker 1: say that this is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Speaker 1: And we could go piece by piece, but the overall
Speaker 1: theme here is again I get it. I'm an optimistic guy.
Speaker 1: I look at the world glass half full. No one
Speaker 1: else has to do that if they don't want to.
Speaker 1: So I try to see the best in situations if
Speaker 1: I can. There's no question, and I get it. And
Speaker 1: some people hate that. Some people are like, come on, Paul,
Speaker 1: let's be a little more negative. And it is what
Speaker 1: it is. But some of these things that are being
Speaker 1: criticized or ridiculous. For instance, right the GM skipped the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, skipped quote unquote, Glenn is painting it as
Speaker 1: if Darren Mujie skipped it because he doesn't think it's important.
Speaker 1: Darren Mugie skipped it because he was introduced on Monday
Speaker 1: and Senior Bowl practices were the next day. He had
Speaker 1: to put the rest of his staff together. People, what
Speaker 1: are we talking about, Glenn. We're going to criticize Muji
Speaker 1: for quote unquote skipping the Senior Bowl when he said
Speaker 1: he wanted to go but he had to do staff fires.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I'm all for being negative, and there's
Speaker 1: something to be negative about. We're just making things to
Speaker 1: be upset about his Jet fans. The OC never calling
Speaker 1: plays at the end of the level is true, but
Speaker 1: not at all. He called plays from twenty eleven to
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen at San Diego where he was linked up
Speaker 1: with Hardbaugh. There he called plays, So check that one off.
Speaker 1: And if you just want to say, the head coach
Speaker 1: has never coached a game, so like bood, that sucks.
Speaker 1: You know, you haven't coached a game is an eight
Speaker 1: C until you've coached the game is an EIGHTC. Everyone
Speaker 1: in the league at some point had never coached a
Speaker 1: game until they coached a game. So so, and plus
Speaker 1: let's just be honest, right, have you hired a head
Speaker 1: coach that has done it before? That doesn't guarantee shit?
Speaker 1: Adam Gasee, what's a head coach before? And then he
Speaker 1: came to the Jets and then he sucked? So what
Speaker 1: did that do? I thought there was a guarantee you
Speaker 1: guaranteed piece of shit in a box like the Tommy
Speaker 1: Boy reference. What are you talking about here? Guarantee piece
Speaker 1: of shit? Like again, I get it if you don't,
Speaker 1: And like getting upset over positional coaches, the quarterback up sucks, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that just seems like a weird rant. And
Speaker 1: by the way, like picking on that the O line
Speaker 1: coach played tight end. You know, Bill Callahan, the greatest
Speaker 1: offensive line coach in the history of this league. Do
Speaker 1: you know what he did before? Let me pull up
Speaker 1: the reds here because I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking at a turn here again, Bill Callahan,
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach? Extraordinary? Who have been with the Jets?
Speaker 1: No interesting here? Oh, former tight ends coach? That's odd.
Speaker 1: I wonder how that transition happened. What's happening there where
Speaker 1: he's worked with tight ends before. Switching from tight ends
Speaker 1: to oh line is a very common flip that happens
Speaker 1: with people. So what are we talking about, Glenn?
Speaker 10: Come on, come on, come on, come out, come on,
Speaker 10: come on, come on, What are.
Speaker 1: We talking about? Jesus so again some negativity out there
Speaker 1: in the universe? God bless All right, let's go back
Speaker 1: to the phone Lodge. I've got Indie Jets here on
Speaker 1: the show. What's up in.
Speaker 6: Good morning? Good morning man? How you doing?
Speaker 1: Not too shabby?
Speaker 6: I was. I was really hoping to get on there
Speaker 6: with June because you know, I just wanted to I
Speaker 6: just like to just see him just lose his marbles
Speaker 6: over over Aaron Rodgers not being on this team next year.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: So here speaking of Aaron Rodgers, you know, we don't
Speaker 6: know if he wants to come back, and we also
Speaker 6: don't know if if if Glenn wants him back.
Speaker 1: Correct correct, yep, yep, no and no update on that yet, yep.
Speaker 6: Right, So what is the cutoff date before Aaron Glenn
Speaker 6: and and Moviie have to make the decision for him,
Speaker 6: because you know you've got you know, is it is?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 6: Is it the draft day? Are we talking to Combine?
Speaker 6: When do they say, Okay, if you can't tell us,
Speaker 6: then we're going to have to move on because we
Speaker 6: have to our whole draft changes based on whether he's
Speaker 6: him and and Davante are there right?
Speaker 1: I would say this month because the NFL scout and
Speaker 1: Combine is at the end of this month. We're in
Speaker 1: the month of February. Now today is February third. I
Speaker 1: think you need to know before then because right after
Speaker 1: that is free agency and if the Jets need to
Speaker 1: go chase some competition for Tyron Taylor, right, are they
Speaker 1: swimming at Sam Darnold water? So are they going after
Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson. Are they going after some schlub to
Speaker 1: just throw in with Tyrod Taylor? Like your entire plan change.
Speaker 1: If Aaron is back, then your quarterback room is pretty
Speaker 1: set outside of you drafting a rookie because it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Aaron, it's gonna be Tyrod, and then whatever rookie
Speaker 1: is gonna be battling out with Jordan Travis. If Aaron
Speaker 1: is not there, you're finding another guy to compete with
Speaker 1: Tyron because Tyron's not getting the starting job handed to
Speaker 1: him on a silver platter. So I would say the
Speaker 1: tail end of this month, somewhere in the next two
Speaker 1: or three weeks, I would say, you know, would be
Speaker 1: a comfortable time, but they need to know before free agency,
Speaker 1: which is like the second week of March. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of over this next month and a half,
Speaker 1: but specifically here over these next like four weeks, that's
Speaker 1: when a decision truly has to be made.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's almost gonna come down to a countdown
Speaker 6: because you know, Rogers has never been one to you know,
Speaker 6: give the information early.
Speaker 1: That is true, okay, And so.
Speaker 6: You know we're literally as fans as you guys, content
Speaker 6: creators are gonna have this countdown because you know, if
Speaker 6: we don't have a decision by you're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 6: have to. They're gonna have to make the decision for him,
Speaker 6: you know, pick up the phone and say today's your day.
Speaker 6: You either say yes, you commit to the Jets for
Speaker 6: one hundred percent, or we're going to have to move
Speaker 6: in a different director.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And the good news is is that
Speaker 1: the Jets control the narrative here. So like in past
Speaker 1: years where Aaron is holding teams hostage, like he has
Speaker 1: this player option and all these other things that are
Speaker 1: going on to this contract that the team has to
Speaker 1: beck and call the Rogers they have to wait on him. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: in this scenario, whether he's here or not here, relatively speaking,
Speaker 1: the contract is the same. So the Jets control the narror.
Speaker 1: If they just want to move on for Rodgers or
Speaker 1: just put them on the back seat, we're gonna assume
Speaker 1: he's not gonna come, we're gonna go after a different option.
Speaker 1: They can do that. So I think there one hundred
Speaker 1: percent will be that sort of coming to God moment
Speaker 1: and that call if somehow they didn't get the information
Speaker 1: from Rodgers. I think that happens before Freencie Allen says
Speaker 1: before the combine, which again combine is like an end
Speaker 1: of February.
Speaker 6: So that's and that's kind of where I was at
Speaker 6: is I think you know that we said that. I'm
Speaker 6: hoping that the general manager sets the date and says, okay,
Speaker 6: the day of whatever day the mind starts the day
Speaker 6: before Rogers. If we don't have an answer, you're no
Speaker 6: longer yet and I mean we're not even going to
Speaker 6: have a discussion. You just you and you and Deavante
Speaker 6: go off to wherever you need to go, and we
Speaker 6: will go on to u you know, become you know,
Speaker 6: building this team without him.
Speaker 1: That the calendar year of it, Yeah, players report on
Speaker 1: the like twenty four to twenty fifth of February, and
Speaker 1: then the first practice is that practice, for lack of
Speaker 1: a better word, their drills and things. Now, that first
Speaker 1: one is the twenty seventh, So Thursday of February twenty
Speaker 1: seventh is the first drill day where all the positional
Speaker 1: groups and over the what is that one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four days twenty seventh through March second is all the
Speaker 1: workouts the Quarterbacks Office climb and every positional group and
Speaker 1: the days before some of the interviews and lifting and
Speaker 1: some of those sorts of things. So yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: right around the corner here.
Speaker 6: So we got we just market February twenty sixth. I
Speaker 6: think that's what we'll send that to send that to
Speaker 6: the Jets and say here, Rogers, here to your date.
Speaker 6: If you don't give us, then with by the twenty sixth,
Speaker 6: then we you know, we we move on from you.
Speaker 6: I'm happy. I think we'll get an actually.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we'll see and do I appreciate the call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see. To me, I think he is going. He
Speaker 1: has said this. We'll see if he's made of his word.
Speaker 1: He said he doesn't want to drag the Jets along,
Speaker 1: you go this, that or the other. We'll see if
Speaker 1: honestly that's true. But I think we will be getting
Speaker 1: that decision from Rogers. Mike Gut says he does not
Speaker 1: want to retire, and then the decisions up to the Jets.
Speaker 1: Do you want Tom back? Are you moving on? Let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. All right, let's go back to the
Speaker 1: phone lines here, appreciate it. Everybody got five hundred people
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Speaker 1: over to Easy in the car. What's up, Easy, I'm
Speaker 1: in the truck. Wait a second, do we have a haircut? Easy?
Speaker 5: Yep? Got mes lowered?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, there you go. Wow a new adjust new
Speaker 1: Easy here on the show, fresh February version.
Speaker 5: Nice, the same old Easy, just less hair.
Speaker 1: Okayeh, there you go. There must be a little lighter
Speaker 1: to kind of move and groove, you know. Very nice
Speaker 1: aero dynamic.
Speaker 5: I yeah, takes two seconds to blowdy, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Hey, there you go. Nice? All right, welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show. Easy. Great to have you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, Yeah, I finally got my Corvette back after
Speaker 11: this guy hated for nine months.
Speaker 5: No, not nice.
Speaker 11: There isn't a two square insection of that paint job
Speaker 11: that isn't fucked up.
Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh I got it.
Speaker 11: I gotta I gotta take his ass to small claims court. Yeah,
Speaker 11: oh yeah, fuck him? Anyway, Enough about that ship.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I mean he didn't even he didn't even.
Speaker 5: Put paint on the rocker panels, underneath base or clear.
Speaker 1: Coat and held it for nine months.
Speaker 5: Nine months?
Speaker 11: Is there's there's fish eyes and solving pops and curtains.
Speaker 5: And drips all over the cars.
Speaker 11: I mean a blind chimp could have done it. I
Speaker 11: could have done a better job with a rattle, can
Speaker 11: you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Bad? Yep.
Speaker 11: And then he held and then after given him four grand,
Speaker 11: he you know, I still owed him twenty five hundred,
Speaker 11: you know. And then he held the hostage until I
Speaker 11: gave him another twel hundred dolls. He wouldn't eve give
Speaker 11: me the keys, even though my my friend and my
Speaker 11: son were pointing out every.
Speaker 5: Trip and everything all over.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it was that bad.
Speaker 5: I mean it was that bad my freaking Corvette no less.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, Corvette.
Speaker 11: But but my buddy that went there with me to
Speaker 11: pick it up, he's actually painted cars for Barrett Jackson
Speaker 11: and for Meekham. So I mean we're gonna after I
Speaker 11: take him to court, we're gonna strip the car down
Speaker 11: and it's gonna be worth a million dollars after we
Speaker 11: paint it.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's there's.
Speaker 5: No repairing that.
Speaker 11: There's no repair in this paint job. It's got to
Speaker 11: come come down. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: Anyway, in the draft, I was listening to what's his
Speaker 5: first name, you're talking about Dom? Yeah, I was listening
Speaker 5: to dom.
Speaker 11: If we have the seventh pick and all those other
Speaker 11: six guys in front of us are gone, yeah, I'll
Speaker 11: still take that safety, but I'll trade back to get them.
Speaker 1: There you go, he'll be there.
Speaker 5: He'll be there at fifteen or seventeen or something. You know.
Speaker 11: Of course, we I know how everyone's saying, you got
Speaker 11: a trading partner.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Yeah, right, But.
Speaker 11: My dad always said, if you don't ask the answers already, no,
Speaker 11: so you know, he said, he would say that would
Speaker 11: pretty girls he goes. Never be afraid to ask a
Speaker 11: pretty girl out? He said, what's the worst they could say?
Speaker 11: I said, no, he goes, Yeah, And what happens if
Speaker 11: you don't ask him? You ain't gonna date him anyway.
Speaker 1: So I ask you pot man, all right, words wise words.
Speaker 11: If you don't ask the answers already, no, so, uh yeah,
Speaker 11: we need a safety.
Speaker 5: I don't know about that safety.
Speaker 11: I mean I don't I don't know what Aaron Glenn
Speaker 11: is looking for as far as whether he wants a
Speaker 11: run a run support cover safety, or whether he wants
Speaker 11: a ball hawk safety.
Speaker 5: Or you know, I don't know it all. See, everything
Speaker 5: depends on on free agency.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's gonna change a lot of conversations.
Speaker 11: Mock drafts this early in the season are purely well,
Speaker 11: if this guy's there, who do you know? They're just
Speaker 11: complete speculation, is not even any rhyme or reason, because
Speaker 11: depending upon free agency, the teams in front of us
Speaker 11: might not need.
Speaker 5: The guys that we want. That's true, it's all free agency.
Speaker 11: I do have my concerns over this staff because of
Speaker 11: the inexperience. I know, I know they're good at what
Speaker 11: they've been currently doing. But then the flip side of
Speaker 11: that is Mike Tomlin never was a head coach.
Speaker 5: He's never had a losing season.
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh with Baltimore was never a head coach before
Speaker 1: you never he was.
Speaker 5: A special teams coordinator, wasn't he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean mcvne. I mean, we could go through the
Speaker 1: whole list. There are plenty of successful failures. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's automatic, it's gonna work out, but
Speaker 1: then it's automatic failure. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5: The one good thing is I don't see Aaron On
Speaker 5: being a failure.
Speaker 11: He's never failed at anything he's ever done, and I
Speaker 11: don't think he would have wanted this job if he
Speaker 11: thought it was going to be a failure situation.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, he's a legacy and he's a jet through
Speaker 5: and through.
Speaker 11: I still in my gut, I still my gut feeling
Speaker 11: things that Rex Ryan would have been the best choice
Speaker 11: at least if even if it was only for two
Speaker 11: three years, just to get this franchise turned around, because
Speaker 11: at least you know what you have with Rex.
Speaker 5: He can take good players and make them great players.
Speaker 11: And I got to give Robert salah ordeally departed good
Speaker 11: luck back in San Francisco. He did a good job
Speaker 11: developing players who were out of position.
Speaker 5: He really did.
Speaker 11: Nobody thought Jamien Sherwood was going to become the player
Speaker 11: he did.
Speaker 5: I did, he did. He did a great You got
Speaker 5: to give the man credit. He did a great job.
Speaker 11: I think his achilles was the act offense often not
Speaker 11: having a not having a good quarterback, and that I
Speaker 11: gotta blame Joe Douglas on Joe should have made sure we.
Speaker 5: Had if we would had Tyrod last year, different season.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe. And now I don't mean.
Speaker 5: I don't mean this past year. I meant, you know,
Speaker 5: the season with Zach Haddis.
Speaker 11: They should have had Zach's third string and had tyrod
Speaker 11: behind Aaron Rodgers the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could have given us a better hope easy
Speaker 1: for that specific season. I'll say this the one buggaboo
Speaker 1: with Robert sala is, he sucked at his job. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, clock management, I mean, he just
Speaker 1: fucked up so much stuff again, developing town sure, Winsy Williams,
Speaker 1: Jamian Sherwood, developing talent and getting them to this next
Speaker 1: level like hey, so lout, but again as a head
Speaker 1: coach got off. He's twenty to thirty six, sixteen games
Speaker 1: below five hundred, just not gounding.
Speaker 7: Know.
Speaker 1: Kuka Lake fan coming in here again. Every time we
Speaker 1: get a super Chat shout out, we hear from my
Speaker 1: daughter's Rye Luna. It's been a member for three months.
Speaker 1: I appreciate. By the way, my son turned three months
Speaker 1: tomorrow month, three month old. So cuculate jetsman, appreciate you,
Speaker 1: he says. This freaking circuit start with Rex again. Everyone
Speaker 1: remembers the good time, speople often forget the bad times.
Speaker 1: Rex was fired ultimately with how that all worked out,
Speaker 1: but again, I remember the playoffs. Those are good times.
Speaker 1: It just has been good times in a while. So
Speaker 1: back to the phone lines. Ny jets of Fould joins
Speaker 1: here on the show.
Speaker 9: A good morning as a number two leader of the
Speaker 9: Bowers boy clan. On the Jakeasmins Show, Gary, I'm glad
Speaker 9: people are finally coming around to how great a tight
Speaker 9: end can be, you know, on a successful offensive team.
Speaker 9: So my two draft choices last year were Bowers and
Speaker 9: I wanted to trade up Philad McConkie.
Speaker 3: You can go back and look at all the tea wow.
Speaker 1: But regardless, but it is right, pretty nice.
Speaker 5: Let me say that.
Speaker 9: Yeah right, let me say this, there's no way with
Speaker 9: taking I respect Dom's skill or whatever he does. I
Speaker 9: looked at the last two years of draft picks in
Speaker 9: the NFL and there was not one number one draft
Speaker 9: pick in the first round for safety the last two years.
Speaker 9: Let's just say that, not saying maybe the classes were weak,
Speaker 9: but I think.
Speaker 1: That the last one was probably Kyle Hamilton or something. Right.
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe if you go back to you, yeah, maybe
Speaker 9: I'd have been on the top fifteen.
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton. I think he's like in the teens somewhere.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it depends on the year.
Speaker 9: Of course, But I mean I when he said Ashton
Speaker 9: Genty that that got me excited because you know, and
Speaker 9: every well hate hate my takes, So I don't care.
Speaker 9: Kenneth Grant is my number one, and and if gent's
Speaker 9: on the board, you know, like I said, Bryce Hall
Speaker 9: is not quite an elite talent.
Speaker 1: He's in a contract year. You might be tempted.
Speaker 9: And to get a guy like that on the you know,
Speaker 9: especially if we move on from Rogers, you know, to
Speaker 9: get a guy an explosive running back like that, similar
Speaker 9: to what I said the other day with Jamier Gibbs,
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be disappointed personally. The trade down that Edward
Speaker 9: suggested was good. If you want to take starts in
Speaker 9: the teens, maybe that's a great that's fine.
Speaker 3: Seven at number seven. Who you know, Ah, I just
Speaker 3: it'd be tough to swallow.
Speaker 9: You know, a lot of people didn't want to take
Speaker 9: Bowers last year because it's a tight end and all that.
Speaker 3: But he's a rare specimen.
Speaker 9: Let's just say that you knew he was a rare
Speaker 9: If you watched any college football, you would know that
Speaker 9: Bowers was like a hybrid wide receiver, more of a
Speaker 9: wide receiver and a tight ends body.
Speaker 1: That's basically what he was quite honestly. And look at
Speaker 1: the numbers. The greatest rookie Titan season in the history
Speaker 1: of the National Football League. Pretty pretty good.
Speaker 9: Yep, yep, that's all I got, Paul. You probably have
Speaker 9: a lot of time. But let's see, uh when he
Speaker 9: maybe in a couple of weeks, he'll come. He'll bring
Speaker 9: up the gent thing again because he said to save it.
Speaker 3: So that was a bit of a taser.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe Jets fan looking forward to it.
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe he wants to get the Jets fans riled
Speaker 9: up because he wants to take a tight end sorry
Speaker 9: a safety at seven. He wanted to get some some
Speaker 9: people to get.
Speaker 3: On his page and stuff.
Speaker 1: So anyway that works, I guess you know, I love it,
Speaker 1: Ny jetsfl thiks with the call, and yeah, Alan was
Speaker 1: bringing this up. But yeah, so Kyle Hamilton, he was
Speaker 1: the fourteenth of were all pick. But that was in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, so Ted said that he looked over
Speaker 1: the last two years, so obviously that goes further back
Speaker 1: than that. But yes, Kyle Hamilton was there and he
Speaker 1: could get paid this offseason. So Ted was one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right on that fun fact Kyle Hamilton dates back
Speaker 1: even further than that. But yeah, long story short, safeties
Speaker 1: have not gone in the first round a long time.
Speaker 1: The big safety draft. I remember back in the day,
Speaker 1: this is gonna this is going to age me, but
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and Eric Barry were like two of the
Speaker 1: best players in that class. I remember, all which safety
Speaker 1: did you prefer? I think both those guys probably one
Speaker 1: of the top fifteen, maybe both one of the top ten,
Speaker 1: maybe even more than that. I'd have to double check
Speaker 1: that class. But interesting. All right, let's get one more
Speaker 1: caller here on the show. I got a few minutes
Speaker 1: here before I jump over to the radio station. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to and why JKO returns here on the showing.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I know I saw the whole you know who
Speaker 12: you're gonna grab in the first round. Honestly, I can
Speaker 12: see Aaron Glenn grabbing Mason Grant from from the UH
Speaker 12: from from Michigan, and would I would be all in
Speaker 12: on the pick if Will Johnson isn't there, or let's
Speaker 12: go Will Campbell, because you know we need helping the trenches,
Speaker 12: you know, on both sides of the board. Honestly. So
Speaker 12: if I saw of the Ashley gen thing, I don't
Speaker 12: I don't think it would be a good pick if
Speaker 12: our office alignment already like you know, molded yet into
Speaker 12: him because brees Hall, you know, Isaiah Daves know they
Speaker 12: mean something happening or nothing, you know, especially Bridge, you know,
Speaker 12: having a brick tack was in the backfield and it
Speaker 12: was it was. It was a mess up for us man,
Speaker 12: you know.
Speaker 1: So it's tough.
Speaker 3: It really was.
Speaker 12: It was hard to watch, it really was. But you know, listen,
Speaker 12: you know, I like im Win's energy. I think Moji
Speaker 12: is gonna. I think they're gonna turn things around. And
Speaker 12: he said something that really stood out. I don't know
Speaker 12: if people pay attended to the press. He's big on
Speaker 12: you know, the measurements of places. He really died sex players,
Speaker 12: you know, from the top to the bottom, which is
Speaker 12: you know, because and listen he put that that that
Speaker 12: young team together out there in Denver. You know, people
Speaker 12: people got you know, they they have a good young
Speaker 12: defense over there. They had that one first round on
Speaker 12: that defense and they were tough, and they were tough.
Speaker 1: The only first rounder I think they had was PS
Speaker 1: two Patrick everyone else.
Speaker 12: And them guys ball together like they were a strong unit.
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna take them. You know, he lost them,
Speaker 12: but there was a strong unit. So you know, and
Speaker 12: we got have some good young, you know, bright pieces.
Speaker 12: We could add maybe one or two, you know the
Speaker 12: DJ read you know, him leaving. I hope Will Johnson honestly,
Speaker 12: because we need we need some might opposite of the
Speaker 12: souls we will cover and you know and do everything else.
Speaker 1: He was in in our scenario that little mock draft
Speaker 1: we did. Mason Grandma unfortunately was off the board. He's
Speaker 1: been off the board in a lot of these marks,
Speaker 1: but Will Johnson was on the board. He's been on
Speaker 1: the board in most of the scenarios.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I've been seeing Yeah, you know, who knows, man,
Speaker 12: you know, you never know, you might Will Johnson might
Speaker 12: really go higher.
Speaker 3: And then we'll.
Speaker 1: Expected espec after the combine too.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And you know another tight end. Who's who's a sleeper
Speaker 12: that I hope that they do that and they do
Speaker 12: their homework on the time from it from bowling is
Speaker 12: it bowling green?
Speaker 3: Harold Finn?
Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, that's a kid. Uh Atopson just drafted his
Speaker 1: name escapes me. It's a no, have it right here,
Speaker 1: Harold Fan and Jr.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, he's he was, he was the beast. Of
Speaker 12: course he can play. He know, he might not be
Speaker 12: a first rance, but he can play. I would I
Speaker 12: would love to have him. I don't know if he's
Speaker 12: gonna bring back content. Hopefully we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I hope so too. I
Speaker 1: hope if there's a reasonable contract that he had. He
Speaker 1: was a good guy, good locker room guy, and he
Speaker 1: was solidly productive. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's who we need to need more more
Speaker 12: good locker room guys. That's something else that that spoke.
Speaker 12: So I'm hoping, you know, I'm praying, you know, we
Speaker 12: can't mess this up. We had a we had a
Speaker 12: good spot number seven. Let's make it right. Let's do
Speaker 12: the right thing. Hopefully, you know, hopefully Woody Johnson isn't overpowering,
Speaker 12: because come on, man, let the guy work like.
Speaker 1: You just hired him. Let them do their jobs.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 12: I think that's a lot of the coaches, you know,
Speaker 12: is you know, Woody Johnson want to have his input, like,
Speaker 12: you know, let these guys build this team, let them
Speaker 12: put like they know what they're doing this, they know
Speaker 12: they went quite higher, they went to whatever it was
Speaker 12: to get hit. Let them, let them work, had patience,
Speaker 12: you know. So and I think I think, you know,
Speaker 12: we have a good young defense. We'll be forced to
Speaker 12: be working with. We had a couple of pieces were
Speaker 12: not faulting, no that far, but with ray Vid, you know,
Speaker 12: and he was right there. In a lot of games
Speaker 12: they we should have won, but we was how many
Speaker 12: games by at least one in two points?
Speaker 1: Now, it was brutal. All those one score losses really
Speaker 1: hurt the Jets and it put them in a bad spot.
Speaker 1: I will say with the Will Johnson conversation that people
Speaker 1: bring up. People are talking about I just saw a
Speaker 1: comment here, uh somewhere, they're injured. So let's shut this up.
Speaker 1: From Jojo townswell the injuries with Will Johns our concern
Speaker 1: and there's nothing I can say about that that's true.
Speaker 1: But there have been other corners that had it quote
Speaker 1: unquote injury issues in college that turned around. Look no
Speaker 1: further than Derek Stingley. Look what he's done with the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans this year, and he had all kinds of
Speaker 1: injury issues. Remember Houston took him over saus And we're like,
Speaker 1: what a loser. They didn't pick sauce, and then we
Speaker 1: get sauce and sauce. That has been great. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anything about it, but Derek Stingley has been putting
Speaker 1: up the interception numbers pro bowler and he's due for
Speaker 1: a big contract. He's probably gonna become the highest base
Speaker 1: corner in football this offseason. So just because someone who's
Speaker 1: injuries in college doesn't mean they necessarily won't. But hell,
Speaker 1: look at like d Milner. I'm sorry to bring up
Speaker 1: those memories he had injuries in college, got to the
Speaker 1: pros more injury issues. It could totally happen. It could
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