WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.359 single day on your favorite podcast platform. What do you 6 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:17.879 think the punishment should be here? And what do you 7 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.760 think is really going on here? I guarantee you don't 8 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:26.199 see this story coming. Castle Rock school bus driver accused 9 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:32.960 of abandoning forty elementary students miles from home. Brian, you 10 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.000 have not been moonlighting or anything here. Oh no, no, no, 11 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.840 I'm just asking. I'm just gathering facts. I'm in the 12 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.200 fact gathering stage here. Or Kelly, you're not doing a 13 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:46.799 little bus driving out in Castle Rock. Okay. So here's 14 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.439 the Denver Post story. A Castle Rock school bus driver 15 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:55.600 abandoned forty elementary schoolers Monday evening at a random intersection 16 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.840 miles away from their homes. Parents and school officials said. 17 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.320 Parents told nine News that the driver, who they claim 18 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.560 was a substitute for the route that day, forced their 19 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.480 Clear Sky Elementary School students off the bus near a 20 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.599 cemetery at East Wolfsenberger Road and Auburn Drive Douglas County 21 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:20.680 School officials would not confirm if the driver was a substitute, 22 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:22.879 and a video posted by nine news. Students said the 23 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.519 trouble started before they even left the parking lot. One 24 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.159 girl said the bus driver refused to move until they 25 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.640 all stopped talking. Come on, these are elementary school kids. 26 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.159 You're never gonna move, which caused them to leave the 27 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.920 school later than they normally would. Now, there's got to 28 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.480 be video of this, right, all these buses have video. 29 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.879 You could probably you know, pay for the remodeling of 30 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:51.400 every school by selling the cable rights to that video. 31 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:55.200 Multiple parents also said their children reported the driver threatening 32 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.040 them and using vulgar language. According to Fox thirty one quote, 33 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.000 we felt like when he was driving and missing our stops, 34 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.480 like we were getting kidnapped. Caitlin Zavadil, a ten year 35 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.800 old student. A Clearsky, told nine News the bus driver 36 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:12.360 eventually stopped around five pm, about two miles from the 37 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.599 school on the corner of Wolsenberger and Ubburn, and forced 38 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.400 all forty kids out of the bus. Students said many 39 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.840 of the children are miles from their home and had 40 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.000 no way to contact their parents. As temperatures dropped, and 41 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.199 it was cold out there. While some parents arrived quickly 42 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.719 at the intersection to rescue their kids, other students were 43 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:36.680 picked up by strangers desperate for a ride home. Parents 44 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:41.800 told both television stations. Now a quote from the school district, quote, 45 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:44.759 we are in contact with the families of the forty 46 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:49.439 students who were Get this language right. You just wonder 47 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.039 how many people gathered around a table with how many 48 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:54.759 lawyers to write this team and for the Douglas County 49 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:58.680 School District quote, we are in contact with the families 50 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:02.680 of the forty students who were dropped off at a 51 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:06.879 different area than the regular bus stop after school. Now, 52 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.560 come on, now, come on, man dropped off at a 53 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:15.560 different area than the regular bus stop. No, from what 54 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.280 the kids say. The one said it she felt like 55 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.520 she was being kidnapped. This isn't dropped off at a 56 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.400 different area other than the regular bus stop. Wait a 57 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.120 second school district, your regular bus stop, that's where you're 58 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.800 supposed to get off, and then you voluntarily get off 59 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.199 because Rover's there and your mom's there and you can't 60 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:39.560 wait to get home. They were dropped off, They were 61 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:42.960 forced off the bus out in the middle of nowhere. 62 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.479 So I'd love to meet whoever at the school district 63 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.479 put this statement together anyway, because I'm to say this 64 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.680 is incredibly concerning. Is the safety of our students has 65 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.639 always our priority. All I would suggest is, if that's 66 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:02.879 the case, then don't insult everybody's intelligence by saying, oh, 67 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.120 they were dropped off at a different area than their 68 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.919 regular bus stop. That implies that, oh, they were dropped 69 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:09.840 off down the block so they could see all their 70 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.800 friends on the walk home. The post story goes on 71 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.400 to say school district officials say they're working with the 72 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.839 Castle Rock Police Department and the bus drivers currently on leave. 73 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:25.240 Oh wow. Really, while they conduct any internal investigation, it's 74 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:30.879 not clear if criminal charges will be filed. Wow. Well, 75 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:36.319 I will bet you my golf clubs, every Tomahawk, Ryean 76 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:40.920 Owes me and a whole lot more that we not 77 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.279 only see criminal charges filed, we see a boatload of 78 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.879 criminal charges filed. Now, I do catastrophic injury work. I 79 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.560 don't do criminal defense, but I and I'm not a 80 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:54.160 criminal prosecutor. But I would bet you we see a 81 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:59.560 whole slew of child abuse charges, maybe kidnapping charges. I 82 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.079 don't know about the facts here, but that one kid 83 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.480 said she felt like they were being kidnapped. Yeah, So anyway, 84 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.120 what what do you think should happen to this guy 85 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.199 or gal? And what do you think is really going 86 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.040 on here? Eighty five for zero five A two five 87 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:18.759 five the number. But yeah, dropped off at a location, 88 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.439 dropped off at a different area than the regular bus 89 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:29.920 stop after school. Wow? Confidence inspiring right eight f five 90 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.160 for zero five A two five five text d A 91 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.800 N five seven seven three nine. One of my favorite 92 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.680 headlines of the year from the Denver Gazette, Colorado to 93 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:46.480 pay one point five million in same sex wedding website case. Yeah. See, 94 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:53.079 anti Christian bigotry is expensive, Governor, It's expensive, Phil It's 95 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:56.040 expensive all you lefties who are part of this open 96 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:01.199 hostility to Christianity in Colorado. And it's it's everybody, as 97 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.399 far as I can tell, everybody in power in that 98 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:10.560 Democratic Party, regardless of shape, size, race, gender, religion. This 99 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.480 appears to be just a foundational thing with the leadership 100 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.600 of the Democratic Party in Colorado, to the point where 101 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.600 you have Justice Kennedy commenting on it when Jack Phillips 102 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:25.920 won his case. Just this open aggression toward Christianity in 103 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.120 this case, Colorado would write the check. And I don't 104 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.480 think it's coming out of police's pocket. I bet it's 105 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:35.319 coming out of our pocket to Laurie Smith for her attorneys. 106 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.279 And you know Laurie, she's been on this show before. 107 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.879 Laurie Smith, who feared she would run a foul of 108 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.800 Colorado's Anti Discrimination Act if she refused to create websites 109 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.240 for same sex weddings through a graphic design company, Three 110 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.360 zero three Creative, sued the Colorado Civil Rights Commission and 111 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.480 the state's attorney general. The case made it all the 112 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.639 way to the US Supreme Court, which ruled last year 113 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.279 in favor of Smith, concluding that Colorado sort took quote 114 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.680 force an individual to speak in ways that align with 115 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.920 its views, but defy her conscience about a matter of 116 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:15.879 major significance, therefore violating her First Amendment rights. So yeah, 117 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:18.839 Colorado had to write a check for those attorney fees. 118 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:23.120 And not that I think that's going to discourage the 119 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:27.079 Left in Colorado, because, let's face it, I mean, their 120 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.920 whole existence it. Think about this for a second, the 121 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.279 entire existence of the left in Colorado, whether you're talking 122 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:41.480 about polist Johnston Weiser, Bennett hick and looprenium. I don't 123 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.839 even mention Griswold because I think she's becoming largely irrelevant, 124 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.560 except to the extent that she's being protected by what 125 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:52.439 I perceived as a major cover up. Anyway, the entire 126 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:56.879 existence of the left in Colorado depends upon a large 127 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:03.519 majority of Colorado's Ryan voting against their own faith. Think 128 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.639 about it. Literally, You've got a strong majority of Colorado's 129 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:12.560 who have to set aside their faith in order to 130 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:18.920 vote for these lefties. So that is in part why 131 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:24.319 the left is so openly hostile and aggressive toward Christians. 132 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.480 That's why Jared Paulus, the day after his elected governor, 133 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:29.800 comes out and says, forgot to mention it during the campaign, 134 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.799 but you really need to leave your faith outside the 135 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.759 public square, because the left knows if you vote your faith. 136 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:38.360 And I don't mean Catholics voting for Catholics. I mean, 137 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.039 as I've called them out on air, for some of 138 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:46.360 the absolute worst offenders out there are elected Democrats who 139 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.480 claim to be Catholics. No, I'm not talking about Catholics 140 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:53.360 voting for Catholics. I'm talking about people voting consistent with 141 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:57.200 their faith, their morals, their core beliefs and voting for 142 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:02.320 someone who will reflect those in office, and the left test. 143 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.759 That's why the left test to get people to set 144 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:08.279 their faith aside for the left to get votes, because 145 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.360 once the left takes office, in many, many different cases, 146 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.720 they're doing the exact opposite of what the faith of 147 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:20.200 most people calls for. So yeah, so yeah, anti Christian 148 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.639 bigotry is expensive, and the lefties in Colorado happy to 149 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.440 pay that price with your money. Eight five five for 150 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:29.759 zero five eight two five five takes d an five 151 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:31.120 seven seven three nine. 152 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.360 And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast. 153 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:37.360 Hey, we got a lot going on, but I really 154 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.480 want to get your take on this. It is fortunately 155 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.960 so unique. Good Denver post story. Castle Rock school bus 156 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:47.120 driver accused of abandoning forty elementary students miles from home. 157 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.519 I gave you the details to start the show. Wants 158 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.600 your take on What do you think is going on here? 159 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.759 What do you think cost this? I mean, literally, these 160 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.759 are elementary school kids. It's cold for to them all 161 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.200 off the bus two miles from school. Of course, the 162 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.639 bureaucrats at the school district chose to portray it this way. 163 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.679 The forty students were dropped off at a different area 164 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.120 than their regular bus stop. You could say that Texter 165 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:22.919 says Dan Boss metal breakdown slash illness. Yeah, it'll be 166 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:26.639 very interesting to see, you know, you would think so, right, 167 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.080 which goes to another issue, and listen, I understand lots 168 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.360 of things can cause psychotic breaks before drug use, besides 169 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.759 drug use. I have no idea who this driver is 170 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:36.600 or whether or not he or she was on drugs. 171 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:39.600 What I do know is we see all sorts of 172 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:44.840 horrific stuff happening in Colorado because of psychotic breaks caused 173 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:48.679 by people using high potency marijuana. So when people say, oh, 174 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.480 well wait a set you know, marijuana, it just gets 175 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.440 you high, it mellows you out. Nobody gets intoxicated enough 176 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.720 to do ABC or D, they're not understanding the science 177 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.159 that this science with this high potency pot is that, yeah, 178 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:04.360 you know, just intoxication causes all sorts of death and 179 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:08.519 misery and crashes and awfulness. But it's the psychotic breaks 180 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:12.399 that's different than an intoxication. The psychotic breaks that get 181 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:16.320 triggered that then cause this otherwise very happy family, the 182 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.559 husband to take out a gun and shoot the wife 183 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.440 in the head in front of the young children. You know, 184 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.279 a real case from Colorado, the Observatory Park case, for example. 185 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.159 So yeah, I don't know what went on in this example, 186 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.360 but the textures speculation of some kind of mental breakdown 187 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:36.720 illness would seemed to make sense. Dan, This bus driver 188 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:40.159 had to be mentally ill. The story is incomprehensible, says 189 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.600 a Texter boy in it. I think it's more than that, 190 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.320 my friend. I think you're looking at a ton of 191 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.080 criminal charges, starting with probably forty counts of child abuse. 192 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:51.440 Do you get kidnapping charges thrown in there? We'd call 193 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.399 George Brockler, but we can't because George is just won 194 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.000 the election. He's going to be sworn in as DA 195 00:11:58.080 --> 00:11:59.919 there in mid January, so he would have a con 196 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:00.840 flicked on that. 197 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:02.399 Dan. 198 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:04.840 Oh, this is one of the texts of the year. 199 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.279 The White House called and they would like their bus 200 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:11.840 driver back. Boy, I love our listeners, Dan, Why didn't 201 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:14.240 anyone call the police to go and wait with the kids, 202 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:18.799 take them home or call their parents? Good question, because 203 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:21.639 according to the post story, some of the kids ended 204 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.879 up getting picked up by strangers because they're standing out 205 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:30.320 there freezing. Uh, all right, so live long enough you'll 206 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.200 see everything. But one of these days it's going to 207 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:34.840 dawn on us as a people in Colorado. And I'm 208 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.679 not saying marijuana had anything to do with this, but 209 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:38.399 we need to get to the bottom of that, right. 210 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.080 But the problem is that way were set up in Colorado, 211 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:47.799 and I think it's intentional. You've got all this ugly, crazy, bloody, gory, 212 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:52.759 terrible stuff happening caused by marijuana that really isn't documented 213 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.759 or there's no central repository of such facts so that 214 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.639 the people as a whole could take out the old 215 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:04.159 scale and okay, legalized marijuana. Is it worth it or not? 216 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.279 Because I have no doubt if people could see all 217 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.960 the harms I gathered in one place that say, no, no, 218 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:14.080 way it's worth it. How about Matt Gates a couple 219 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:17.919 of things. There much more talk now about that taking 220 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:22.559 a recess appointment in order to get Gates confirmed with 221 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:25.399 some doubts out there that'll be able to get enough senators. 222 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.039 And the other related issue do you think there should 223 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:31.720 be a recess appointment? But the other related issue is 224 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.679 should the House Ethics report be released? Because as you know, 225 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:41.399 there was an ethics report underway after DOJ declined to 226 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.840 charge any crime, and then Gates resigned just a short 227 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.559 time before the ethics report was going to be released. 228 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.720 Resigned in order to become Donald Trump's ag nominee. So 229 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.679 my quick take on this, but I'm really anxious to 230 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.080 get yours because I don't have a good sense right 231 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.519 now of kind of where the electorate is at on this. 232 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.159 My guess would be the electorate saying, give me a break. 233 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.679 We elected Trump, we trust Trump, we want Trump to 234 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.159 have his people, give them a chance, which is exactly 235 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.440 where I'm at. Unless there's proof that Gates is guilty 236 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.320 of this terrible crime, then even though he wouldn't have 237 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.320 been my choice, I think Trump should have him. Trump 238 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.519 should get him, and if it takes a recess appointment, 239 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:27.519 so be it. And I understand why a lot of 240 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.720 people I respect say, no, wait a second. You know, 241 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:33.440 founders put this business of Senate confirmation in place for 242 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.399 a reason. And I get that argument. It's a darn 243 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:39.080 good argument that the problem we have is that there 244 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:41.399 have been a bunch of recess appointments by a bunch 245 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.519 of different presidents, Republican Democrat. So after all Trump's been 246 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.279 through and the voter's speaking loudly and clearly. They want 247 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.440 to give him another shot. They liked what they saw 248 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.039 the first time around. I think he's got to have 249 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:55.720 his folks again, even though it wouldn't have been my choice. 250 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:00.000 So yeah, unless there's proof, I mean proof that Gates 251 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:04.159 committed this crime and the allegation, because right now you've 252 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.000 got the lawyer for woman who was alleged at least 253 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:12.159 seventeen at the time, claiming that Gates had sex with 254 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.879 their paid for sex, et cetera, et cetera. Apparently DOJ 255 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.080 didn't put much stock in this witness, I'm guessing because 256 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:23.279 DODJ didn't charge in DJ obviously now to fan of Gates, 257 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.120 and when I say DOJ, I'm talking about the Biden administration, 258 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.519 which obviously politicized, you know, the enforcement of the law. 259 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.639 So unless there's actual proof that he's guilty, then I 260 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.279 think Trump's entitled to get his people and then see 261 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.600 what Trump and his team can do. It did a 262 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:43.480 darn good job the first time around. 263 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.879 And do all these congress members, both House and Senate 264 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.159 one us kind of opening up that can of worms 265 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.519 dan as to what they might have hidden in their 266 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.879 personal lives. Non disclosure agreements, hush money payments, et cetera. 267 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:58.840 You're talking about the report, the House report. My guess 268 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:00.799 is they don't. But where I come down on that, 269 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.399 because where I come down clearly is Trump should have 270 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:07.879 his people unless there's proof. I'm talking about very high 271 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.440 level of proof that Gates is guilty of this crime, 272 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:13.720 which he has not been charged with. Innocent until proven guilty, 273 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:16.240 Trump should have his people. With that, said my friend Ryan, 274 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.480 I think that report should be released. I think the 275 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.919 report should be released and let the chips fall where 276 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:27.279 they may. Obviously, Gates's position is that's a false allegation. 277 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.639 It's pretty clear from what's out there in the reporting 278 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.639 right now that you do have one or more women, 279 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.720 young women, claiming that Gates did this. But it's also 280 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:42.840 clear that law enforcement chose not to charge. But why 281 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.799 shouldn't we just get the information on the table. All 282 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:48.840 these people work for us, right, Congress works for us, 283 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.279 The House Ethics Committee works for us. Apparently the report 284 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.879 was just about Dawn other than some spell checking type 285 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.879 of stuff. If that's true, why shouldn't it be released. 286 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.879 Let's see all of it done, not just Gates. 287 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.799 I'm with you all of it. Yeah, they all work 288 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.880 for us. Now listen, I can understand if there's an investigation, 289 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:13.920 there's an internal investigation that concludes, wait a second, this 290 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.400 is just a false allegation. Somebody's just trying to take 291 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:21.599 this gal or this guy down. No, that stuff shouldn't 292 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:26.640 be released because anybody can make a false allegation, and 293 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.039 you shouldn't be tarnishing anybody. I don't care if it's 294 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.720 the janitor in a school, if it's a school principal, 295 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.680 if it's a congressman. If it's been determined to be 296 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.880 a false allegation, then yeah, that in my mind, should 297 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:44.279 not be released. That would be very unfair to the 298 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:49.359 person that false accuser set out to harm. But if 299 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:51.759 it has not been determined to be a false allegation, 300 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:55.319 then yeah, I think the public should be able to 301 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:58.799 see it. My guess is there is not proof in 302 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.799 there that Matt Gates did or else he'd be criminally prosecuted. 303 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.000 And if there's not proof he committed a crime, I 304 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.559 think Trump should get his people, including Gates. But what 305 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:10.279 do you think about all that eight five five for 306 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:13.359 zero five eight two five five text d an five 307 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.799 seven seven three nine When we come back. We're going 308 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.160 to hear the statement Lake and Riley's stepfather read to 309 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.440 the court. All these lefties in office should be required 310 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:23.160 to listen to this. 311 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.680 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 312 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:30.400 Sonny host in on the few. 313 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:36.759 How could you nominate someone with allegations of child trafficking 314 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.839 across the or trafficking across state lines and having sex 315 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.319 with a seventeen year old my understanding. Further on in 316 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.160 the interview, they discussed the fact that once he finds 317 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.000 out that she's seventeen, he stops having sex with her. 318 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.640 Then Sonny Hosten a short time later. 319 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.759 Sonny, you have illegal I do have a legal No, 320 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:01.799 thank you, Wippy. Matt Gates has long denied all allegations, 321 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:05.640 calling the claims quote invented and saying in a statement 322 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.759 to ABC News that this false smear following a three 323 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:13.200 year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism. That 324 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:17.200 DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought. 325 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.440 We'll be right back, Yeah, didn't do that with the 326 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:25.759 same gusto. Ditchy, just didn't sound the same. Texter nails it. Dan. 327 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.119 They also said they had a witness for Brett Kavanaugh. See, 328 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.119 that's the thing, and I've said it a long time ago. 329 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:34.279 First of all, let's start with Gates. Okay, wouldn't have 330 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.319 been my nomination, but innocent until proven guilty. And come on, 331 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.960 anybody with the brain Biden administration hates this guy. Do 332 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.359 you really think that that DOJ after an investigation is 333 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.759 going to pass on a prosecution if they believe they 334 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.359 have any chance to convict him. Doesn't that say a 335 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:57.960 lot in addition to presumed innocent. So yeah, but here's 336 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:01.319 the thing, it's one of them, many many ways we've 337 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:05.400 documented on the show where the left is blatantly anti 338 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:10.279 woman because there are a lot, unfortunately, of real sex 339 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:13.960 assaults out there. But every time the left makes a 340 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.559 false claim of sex assault in order to try to 341 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.720 bring down a political opponent, you know, whether it's Brett 342 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.759 Kavanaugh or somebody else, what the left does is it 343 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.400 hurts the women who are victims of true sex assaults. Brett, 344 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:31.599 Brett Kavanaugh didn't sexually assault anybody. This was a political 345 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:36.519 assassination attempt of Brett Kavanaugh in that committee hearing. And 346 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:39.440 so this is what the left does. So it's another 347 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.960 way they hurt women because how is anybody supposed to 348 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:48.279 take any of these sex assault allegations seriously or give 349 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.559 them credibility when so often the left just lies to 350 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:55.480 try to take down political opponents. And in the Gates case, 351 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:59.839 where Biden's DOJ didn't prosecute, yeah, how do you do 352 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:02.920 it anything other than presume him innocent. Now at the 353 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.119 same time, hey, if there are facts, like actual, real facts, 354 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.519 somebody can produce to show he's guilty of that crime, 355 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:12.240 then he shouldn't be ag But I'm I'm guessing nobody's 356 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:14.319 going to be producing those facts or he would have 357 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.680 been criminally charged. Is there a flaw in that logic, 358 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:18.599 Young Ryan. 359 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:22.920 No, because they went after Trump with far less, oh 360 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.400 my lord, fabricating that and they saw how that worked 361 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:28.480 out for them. So they must have really had nothing 362 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:33.200 on Gates from a materialistic evidentiary standpoint to prove a 363 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.319 case beyond a reasonable doubt. A lot of this is conjecture, 364 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.839 and maybe something happened, but the truth lies between maybe 365 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:42.759 the two points of Gates's version of the events. Young 366 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.599 lady who knows and I don't know that the House 367 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:47.559 again wants to open up this can of worms. 368 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.039 I really don't well again if you just joined to 369 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.960 thank you. In terms of the House Ethics Committee report, 370 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.559 where I come down on that is, listen, if if 371 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:01.680 any ethics body is investigating a complaint and has determined 372 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.119 that it's unsubstantiated, I don't think that report should be 373 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:09.680 released because then you're just hurting an innocent person being 374 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:14.640 the accused, because false accusations are are a horrific form 375 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:20.119 of violence. And yeah, if an allegation has not been substantiated, 376 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.839 then then the target of that investigation should not be 377 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:27.039 harmed by the release of that report. So I think 378 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:30.839 it comes down to the nature of the report. But listen, 379 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.519 if you've got and I'm not saying this is a 380 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:35.440 case of Gates. I don't know what's in that report. 381 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:39.119 But if you've got a House Ethics Investigation Committee report, 382 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.160 you know, that concludes that that certain charges are supported, 383 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:47.720 then yeah, that that kind of report I think should 384 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:51.400 be released. Does that mean that if such a report 385 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.799 was released in the House Committee concluded that Gates did it, 386 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.799 that he really did it. Not necessarily, you'd have to 387 00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.799 see what's in the report. I just keep coming back 388 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:04.640 to the man was criminally investigated by an administration that 389 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:08.000 hates him and they didn't charge him. To me, that 390 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:10.759 just says a lot. And again I'm not a big 391 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.880 Matt Gates fan. Funny thing is, Ryan, I'm starting to 392 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.240 think that if he does take over his age, I 393 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.920 might end up really liking him as ag after a while. 394 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:23.920 But I think We're going to get the chance to 395 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.319 find out because Donald Trump's a fighter. Thank god he 396 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:30.319 fought for Brett Kavanaugh. I think any other president in 397 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.240 our lifetime, Republican or Democrat, would have abandoned Brett Kavanaugh. 398 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.359 That would have been a gross injustice to Brett Kavanaugh. 399 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.920 It would have set the precedent that proof doesn't matter anymore. 400 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:44.440 It's just how loud the howling is and how hot 401 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.039