Speaker 1: I have no interest in proving they exist. I already
Speaker 1: know they do. You know, when I was face to
Speaker 1: face that pretty much submitted what I was looking at,
Speaker 1: And even though I didn't believe it, I had no choice.
Speaker 1: When you're two feet away from something that's about nine
Speaker 1: foot four four feet across the shoulders, three feet deep
Speaker 1: in the chest, and you're looking eye to eye with it,
Speaker 1: its eyes are illuminated, there was no light to illuminate
Speaker 1: them with. And it's a series in your mind pretty
Speaker 1: much guarantees that you're going to become a believer.
Speaker 2: Like right now, this is Bigfoot Crossroads.
Speaker 3: My name's Matt and joining me is William Morris. William
Speaker 3: is the founder of the Sasquatch puzzle Man. What a
Speaker 3: fitting name, William, Thanks for joining.
Speaker 1: Me, Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 3: So we were talking a little bit earlier about some
Speaker 3: unfortunate news that seems to be spreading around about a
Speaker 3: man that seems to be your mentor, Tom Kintrell, someone
Speaker 3: who's very well known and well respected throughout the Bigfoot world.
Speaker 3: He's a come to the end of this journey and
Speaker 3: starting his new journey.
Speaker 1: Would you like to talk about that? Absolutely well. I
Speaker 1: worked great yards. So when I got home this morning,
Speaker 1: I got the news that the Tom had passed. But
Speaker 1: I want to let you folks know he's still with us,
Speaker 1: but he's in and out. He's in the transition period.
Speaker 1: He made it through the night, but he's not expecting
Speaker 1: to make it through the day. Tom and I met
Speaker 1: when he was writing the book Sasquatch Face to Face.
Speaker 1: Somebody had posted a friend of mine had posted that
Speaker 1: another researcher that Tom was looking for stories of people
Speaker 1: that have had actual face to face adventures with the
Speaker 1: Sasquatch people. And well, mine was about as close as
Speaker 1: you get to face to face because I could reach
Speaker 1: out and touch him. That's how close we were. And that
Speaker 1: was in my second sighting. But Tom has been my teacher,
Speaker 1: my mentor. He's been there for when I thought I
Speaker 1: was going a little bananas because of some of the
Speaker 1: things I have witnessed in the presence of these majestic people.
Speaker 1: I call him force people because that's what they are.
Speaker 1: They are people. But Tom has held my hand through
Speaker 1: it all and guided me, and I just wish him
Speaker 1: God's speed that he goes quickly and easily with no pain.
Speaker 1: And his wish is to come back as a Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: So I hope to meaning before I transition as a Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: You know, that would be an amazing thing. That would be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's always been his wish is to become a Sasquatch
Speaker 1: in his next life. So we'll see. Should be interesting
Speaker 1: because they've told him absolutely, you know, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: you know. The whole thing is is when I met Tom,
Speaker 1: and I wrote chapter twenty six, which is my own
Speaker 1: chapter in Sasquatch Face to Pace. Thank god, that's been
Speaker 1: like seven years ago, I think somewhere around near six
Speaker 1: or seven years ago. And I never thought I would
Speaker 1: be doing what I'm doing right now. If there wasn't
Speaker 1: for Tom, you folks would not know anything about me.
Speaker 1: I've been having experiences with him since I was sixteen
Speaker 1: years old, and I wanted nothing to do with them.
Speaker 1: But things changed and later in life here and I
Speaker 1: was able to meet people like Cliff Perrikman, Ken Gerhart
Speaker 1: and you know, people in that top group that I
Speaker 1: was absolutely able to get my experiences off my chest
Speaker 1: and had somebody I could actually speak with that didn't
Speaker 1: look at me like a deer in the headlights and
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy and the risk has been history, you know,
Speaker 1: And I probably met with Tom, and about a year
Speaker 1: and a half after that, you know, after finally getting
Speaker 1: my story out to somebody, and actually it was Mark forself,
Speaker 1: our eight canyan expert that I actually first told my
Speaker 1: story other than anybody in my family, you know, is
Speaker 1: something that I kept secret for thirty eight years. And
Speaker 1: now I'm in a year forty five of experiencing these guys.
Speaker 1: And it is because of Tom that I decided this
Speaker 1: is something I'd like to do. So now I started
Speaker 1: as a researcher March twenty seventh, twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 1: it was actually to call BS on Tom, which I've
Speaker 1: told Tom many times. I said, you know, be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I was out there to call BS on
Speaker 1: you and your techniques and lo and behold. The first
Speaker 1: time I went out with the intention of seeing one,
Speaker 1: I actually was in the company of two of them,
Speaker 1: and one of them was the one that I saw
Speaker 1: when I was not when I was sixteen. It was
Speaker 1: a different one, but not soon about eight months later
Speaker 1: and I call him Big Sober. I asked for him
Speaker 1: to come and connect with me and they did. Wow.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was like, Uh wow, Uh there's
Speaker 1: something to what Tom does. Instead of excuse me, call
Speaker 1: on him out and proven me wrong, I actually proved
Speaker 1: him right. And uh so I've been hooked ever since.
Speaker 1: I've had eleven sightings right now up to this point,
Speaker 1: and uh I hope to have a thousand more because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very active in the field. If you go
Speaker 1: to the Sasquatch Puzzle on Facebook, uh you'll see the
Speaker 1: stuff that's on there. That's a new site. I just started.
Speaker 1: This started a team. Matter of fact, Ron Moorehead is
Speaker 1: one of my team members who has never been a
Speaker 1: part of the team in all the years. Believe it
Speaker 1: or not, he's going out with hundreds of different researchers,
Speaker 1: but he's never been part of a team. And uh
Speaker 1: so it's it's quite an honor to have him there.
Speaker 1: And it consists of me, my friend Stan Schumlick. Stan
Speaker 1: Shemlick worked in Hollywood, he worked in law enforcement, did
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Matter of fact, if you like
Speaker 1: Casper the Ghost I do you ever saw Casper was
Speaker 1: his baby? Oh wow? He designed Casper for the movie
Speaker 1: and did all the effects and everything and stands is
Speaker 1: an expert in lighting, shadowing, all that stuff. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that was great and what got him
Speaker 1: started in this was through to Todd Nice and they
Speaker 1: were in a conversation about infrasound. And you know, for
Speaker 1: him being in Hollywood and the things that he does,
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of has to be an expert
Speaker 1: in sound. And that's what brought him into the puzzle.
Speaker 1: And because Todd invited him out of the blue to
Speaker 1: the last to the last beach pot and that's where
Speaker 1: Stanton I'm at. Then I decided to teach him out
Speaker 1: for a day just for afterwards, you know, for a
Speaker 1: little lesson. I was going to teach him about tree
Speaker 1: breakstree structures, staying with a total skeptic, absolutely a total
Speaker 1: skeptic on the subject. Matter of fact, if you'd said
Speaker 1: anything to him before he got with me, he would
Speaker 1: have laughed, you know, if you told him your big
Speaker 1: Foot story and stuff, and you know it kind of
Speaker 1: mocked you. And you know he had he had no
Speaker 1: belief in it whatsoever. So I took him out for
Speaker 1: a class and we got together and was the first
Speaker 1: day we went out, well, he had two sightings. Wow,
Speaker 1: the second day. We went out. The very next day,
Speaker 1: he had two more sightings face to face with my
Speaker 1: juvenile JJ, and the rest is history. I started. I
Speaker 1: asked Tea months that, you know, they really like you.
Speaker 1: Four sightings of two days, they really like you, And
Speaker 1: so I invited him to start a team. And the
Speaker 1: Sasquatch Puzzle was born. So everything that's on that site
Speaker 1: is just since August early September. Wow, that's just the
Speaker 1: things that we found this year. There's five trackways in
Speaker 1: there that we found, and some of it I actually
Speaker 1: I found them for the most part, but we went
Speaker 1: and all casted them together here recently, and I've got
Speaker 1: so many prints sitting on my coffee table here there's
Speaker 1: no room for anything. Yeah, we've it's been quite an adventure.
Speaker 3: How did this all start for you? You talked about having
Speaker 3: a sighting when you were just sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: I was. I was sixteen years old. I lived in
Speaker 1: Myrtle Creek, Oregon, and I lived about three and a
Speaker 1: half miles from town out in the country. And my
Speaker 1: first experience it was during the hunting season of nineteen eighty,
Speaker 1: which is you know, between It was somewhere in October,
Speaker 1: either towards the end of October or early November, which
Speaker 1: is at the end of the season, and I was hunting.
Speaker 1: I had permission to hunt the property I was on
Speaker 1: out there, and I come over the hill right behind
Speaker 1: the place where I lived on the property is a
Speaker 1: big ranch called the s Diamond Ranch. And as I
Speaker 1: come over the hill, which is just fifty yards from
Speaker 1: my bedroom, and come down this little roadway that was there,
Speaker 1: I saw something move and I looked over and my
Speaker 1: brain did not want to believe I was looking at
Speaker 1: a sasquatch. My brain wanted to believe I was looking
Speaker 1: at a giant rabbit, like there was any such thing
Speaker 1: as that. Yeah, this giant rabbit is about seven and
Speaker 1: a half feet tall, and yeah, but I'm standing there
Speaker 1: with my hunting your right. I never raised it towards it,
Speaker 1: you know, because I've always learned, don't shoot in anything,
Speaker 1: and once you plan on eating, well, I didn't plan
Speaker 1: on eating a sasquash, but or a giant rabbit. So
Speaker 1: but that's where my whole adventure began. And I was
Speaker 1: at sixteen years old. Then my next sightings were back
Speaker 1: to back. Was about eight months later and last end
Speaker 1: of May early June nineteen eighty one. I was just
Speaker 1: getting out of school. For that I was in high
Speaker 1: school and I was actually my mother and I had
Speaker 1: gotten into an argument, and so I stormed off walked
Speaker 1: to town, which I often did. I walked everywhere. Even
Speaker 1: though I had actually owned fourteen cars at the time.
Speaker 1: I used to buy them, fix them, sell them. You
Speaker 1: know that I was quite I could talk in a
Speaker 1: little old lady out of her Faul's chief back. That
Speaker 1: was a great car salesman. Yeah. My next sighting was
Speaker 1: my face to face that is in Tom Cantrell's book
Speaker 1: Sasquashed Face to Face, and we started my adventure with Tom.
Speaker 1: But that one I was they had calmed down, decide
Speaker 1: I was going to head home. This is like eleven
Speaker 1: thirty at night, and I'm walking along. I get a
Speaker 1: mile out of town. I still got two and a
Speaker 1: half miles to get home, and I hear four footsteps
Speaker 1: and they were quite heavy. I was like, well, sounds
Speaker 1: like an elephant walking or a horse, or you know,
Speaker 1: a could be an elk. I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1: And the fourth step, I turned to my right and
Speaker 1: it was standing right there was a three about a
Speaker 1: three foot drop off a little over three feet off
Speaker 1: the edge of the roadway, and we were looking face
Speaker 1: to face and that was and I was close enough
Speaker 1: that I could reach out and touch him. Wow, I did,
Speaker 1: I didn't because I was terrified. I was absolutely terrified.
Speaker 1: I heard the phrase, and the phrase that sticks out
Speaker 1: in my mind is a bolt of fear. It's like
Speaker 1: something just hit you with lightning and you are frozen.
Speaker 1: I couldn't move, and all I can say is feet,
Speaker 1: don't fail me, now, you know. And it's like, Pete,
Speaker 1: you're failing me because I couldn't move and I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting there and we're staring at eye. It was probably
Speaker 1: for about two to two and a half minutes, and
Speaker 1: then he just turned and walked away. Never tried to
Speaker 1: hurt me or anything, never was aggressive. We just sat
Speaker 1: there and looked at each other and he took three
Speaker 1: steps off and I never heard another sound after that,
Speaker 1: And so that was my second sighting. Then about week
Speaker 1: and a half later, I was getting ready for bed.
Speaker 1: I'm climbed in bed. My mom was at the other
Speaker 1: end of the place and she was in and I
Speaker 1: walked to my back window facing the hill that i'd
Speaker 1: walked over to saw the first one, and I saw
Speaker 1: the glowing eyes that I had seen when I was
Speaker 1: face to face, and it's like always right there. And
Speaker 1: he just squatting probably thirty feet from my bedroom window,
Speaker 1: up on the hillside, next to a tree, and apparently
Speaker 1: stayed there all night long. Well, I crawled in bed
Speaker 1: and got in a fetal position, and all I can
Speaker 1: say is Blue, don't kill us. Because I knew nothing
Speaker 1: about the Fast Watch people. Matter of fact, I wanted
Speaker 1: nothing to do with them at all. Even after these sightings.
Speaker 1: I wanted nothing to do with them. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know you're there, I know you're there. Just please
Speaker 1: leave me alone, you know, because who are you going
Speaker 1: to tell? First of all, this is back in nineteen eighties,
Speaker 1: you know, who are you going to tell? I go
Speaker 1: to the place to go report it. They're going to
Speaker 1: laugh me out of town because I do them all.
Speaker 1: You know, they all knew me. They're gonna go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bill kind of went nuts, you know, And that's all there.
Speaker 1: You know, people are gonna you're kind of crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: But now it's just it's a common thing, and more
Speaker 1: and more people are accepting that, well, maybe there is
Speaker 1: something there and there's a lot of things out there
Speaker 1: we don't understand. But my mom that night on that
Speaker 1: third siding, when he was outside my window, this lasted
Speaker 1: all night long and just feeling watching, watching, watching, and
Speaker 1: she was actually frozen in her bed like she was
Speaker 1: being hit by infrasound. And she says, I couldn't move
Speaker 1: all night. And when she got up the next morning,
Speaker 1: I kind of rushed out there because the feeling kind
Speaker 1: of finally dissipated. And this is about six in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I'd heard my mom's stirring and she was finally
Speaker 1: able to move and get up, and I was like,
Speaker 1: how do you sleep? She says, I didn't And I
Speaker 1: said I didn't either. Let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 1: And then she understood that there was something there. Wow.
Speaker 1: Then about another week went by and her and I
Speaker 1: were in and out in the driveway and this is
Speaker 1: the fourth siding, and uh, my mom actually caught it
Speaker 1: because I told her about his eyes were green and
Speaker 1: they glowed, and it's it wasn't eye shine, they glow
Speaker 1: from within. You know, everybody talks about eyeshine. No eye
Speaker 1: shine is when you get a beer in the headlights, right,
Speaker 1: you know, there was no light. You know, when I
Speaker 1: was face to face with him, I was in a
Speaker 1: spot that was very dark, and the thing I'm looking
Speaker 1: at is glowing, and you know, I could just barely
Speaker 1: see the outline of what I was looking at. And
Speaker 1: probably because when I saw the first one, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you still don't believe. So he decided I'm going to
Speaker 1: make it really close to Paris so he can't deny
Speaker 1: what he saw. But we're standing in top of the
Speaker 1: driveway and it's dusk, but it's not dark yet, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just the sun that just crested it over the hills.
Speaker 1: And while I was sitting there talking with my mom,
Speaker 1: she she's like, oh, what that and drew my attention.
Speaker 1: That way as far across the field from the neighbor's place,
Speaker 1: across the way of their pasture, there's a tree line
Speaker 1: that goes across their pasture between the two properties, and
Speaker 1: it's about less than a quarter mile away, so you
Speaker 1: can still see pretty clear and just still very light out,
Speaker 1: and we watched him about every third step would turn
Speaker 1: back and look our direction as it was across the
Speaker 1: property that we were on, across the road and was
Speaker 1: going across the property the other side, but it was
Speaker 1: in the tree line, and I never seen anything move
Speaker 1: so smoothly through the forest. It's like there was no
Speaker 1: trees on the ground, no nothing in the way. They
Speaker 1: just glided. And we watched him across the through the
Speaker 1: tree line and across and then we washed him walk
Speaker 1: up the mountain on the other side, and you know,
Speaker 1: about every three steps he'd look back directly at it.
Speaker 1: And I felt a little different this time when I
Speaker 1: saw him. I wasn't as terrified, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of like they were saying goodbye. Yeah, you know, like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see in thirty eight years. I got to say,
Speaker 1: they're pretty patient. But yeah, we watched him walk over
Speaker 1: the mountain. And then I was bodybuilding and I ran
Speaker 1: every day getting in shape and staying in shape, and
Speaker 1: I was all over those mountains. I used to matter
Speaker 1: of fact, there was a mountain I used to run
Speaker 1: to the top. I started out in a walk to
Speaker 1: get to the top, and I'd have to stop thirty
Speaker 1: times before I got there. Then I got to where
Speaker 1: I could walk and jog and walk and jog till
Speaker 1: you know, I'd get to the top of the mountain
Speaker 1: and then I got to where I could outrun my
Speaker 1: dog to the top of the mountain. Wow. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I got in some really good shape, especially running uphill,
Speaker 1: you know, because it was over a mile uphill, and
Speaker 1: it was not exactly it went to the back of
Speaker 1: my uncle's property, and I could not the way he
Speaker 1: moved and got over that mountain. That only took oh gosh,
Speaker 1: I'd have to say it was only about six or
Speaker 1: seven minutes. If I had done the same path, it
Speaker 1: probably would have taken me at least thirty to forty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Jeez. Yeah. So I was quite impressed. And
Speaker 1: then I just tried to forget about all that stuff
Speaker 1: after that for thirty eight years, just kept that inside.
Speaker 1: Even my mother and I didn't discuss it much, you know,
Speaker 1: it was just more like, you know, okay, we have
Speaker 1: a shared experience together. A matter of fact, we have
Speaker 1: a couple of them together. And because the first time,
Speaker 1: you know, when I told her, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't quite figure she believed me. Yeah, But after
Speaker 1: you know, she saw it for herself, it was a
Speaker 1: whole different story.
Speaker 3: Do you recall anything previous to those events where maybe
Speaker 3: they were already around and you just didn't realize it.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know about anything about tree knocks,
Speaker 1: structures anything like that, you know, a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: they were completely off my radar. We didn't have things
Speaker 1: like not finding Bigfoot. Sorry, Cliff, I love you, but
Speaker 1: you know, you know, to kind of help us kind
Speaker 1: of get into the mode of finding different things, which
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't even go into depth on a
Speaker 1: lot of those things, right, you know, but you know
Speaker 1: I learned a lot of it by just getting out
Speaker 1: there and doing and finding things going and what we
Speaker 1: do as a team especially is look for what doesn't belong.
Speaker 1: You know, what is what am I looking at? You know,
Speaker 1: I probably walked past a thousand structures and tree brakes
Speaker 1: and everything and never knew or even had any kind
Speaker 1: of understanding that there could have been something that built
Speaker 1: that It wasn't natural, happened naturally. Now I can't unsee
Speaker 1: it wherever I go, it doesn't matter. I've been find
Speaker 1: structures that have found structures in Canada, in Washington State
Speaker 1: with Tom Cantrell. A matter of fact, first time Tom
Speaker 1: and I went out, we went up to barber Shops
Speaker 1: area where she does one of her camps off the
Speaker 1: Green River, and I found footprints that were fresh tree
Speaker 1: breaks and some tree weaves and stuff right there. And
Speaker 1: what Tom was hoping I would see what He absolutely
Speaker 1: took me to. This one spot which is just above
Speaker 1: her camp, is just a short little road. It's blocked off.
Speaker 1: Is there's a tree, an arch tree. It's actually two trees,
Speaker 1: one from each side of the creek weave together in
Speaker 1: a large arch, which he did you see that? I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I got cooler stuff in that in my area
Speaker 1: as Tom, Wait, did you see my pictures? Let's put
Speaker 1: it this way. I have over fourteen thousand pictures on
Speaker 1: my hard drive of the past five years of me
Speaker 1: doing my research. Wow, just tree breaks, structures, tree twists.
Speaker 1: And you know, if we were live on video right here,
Speaker 1: I could show you the prints that I've found, which
Speaker 1: you've seen on my site tree breaks. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you got to see the really cool tree breaks
Speaker 1: that's got like five twists in it, I don't think. So. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a short little video on there. So anybody that
Speaker 1: goes there, school down there is got to understand that
Speaker 1: this is only this site isn't that old. It's very recent,
Speaker 1: Like I said, somewhere around the last of August or
Speaker 1: September is when I started the site, and all that
Speaker 1: stuff that's on there is everything from that point on,
Speaker 1: So it's just the last you know, six months or
Speaker 1: so or less.
Speaker 3: How did you find that?
Speaker 1: I just travel the roots. And the whole thing is
Speaker 1: is once you learn what you're looking at, you can
Speaker 1: unsee it. You can be going down the freeway at
Speaker 1: eighty miles an hour in spot a tree structure and
Speaker 1: be hitting the brakes going, well, I got to go
Speaker 1: check this out. It's that simple. Once you get the
Speaker 1: mindset and what you're doing and what you're looking for,
Speaker 1: it's actually everywhere. That's what people don't understand. They're everywhere.
Speaker 1: They're not just in one localized area. They're not just
Speaker 1: in little spaces here and there, but everywhere I go.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, let me, I wrote down here
Speaker 1: just this last year. This is just this is just
Speaker 1: in the past year since July. Okay, rain Er, Oregon.
Speaker 1: That was Beachfoot. When I got to Beachfoot, I found
Speaker 1: my camp. I told Todd which one I wanted long
Speaker 1: before I got there, before the season started, and so
Speaker 1: I went down found my spot. Then I went from
Speaker 1: there up to pavilion where Todd was to check in
Speaker 1: and do everything for Beach Book. When I came back,
Speaker 1: there's a rock stack sitting at my camp that wasn't
Speaker 1: there when I got there. So just in the time
Speaker 1: that I went from the camp and it's probably was
Speaker 1: probably six hundred yards up to the pavilion, check in,
Speaker 1: get my hat, get all my beach foot goodies, and
Speaker 1: head back to camp. There's a rock stack there that
Speaker 1: happened in that period of time, just kind of like
Speaker 1: a welcome here. But Rainier was the first spot. Then
Speaker 1: I went from Rainier, I took Marie Dumont and her
Speaker 1: partner Bob, and a couple of the boys from the
Speaker 1: Red Dirt Cryptids in your neighborhood, Oh, mister h was
Speaker 1: Brian Treillah, and we all went out. I took them
Speaker 1: all out because Rae went rain and I have been
Speaker 1: friends and been talking for a long time and and
Speaker 1: she said, well, can you take us on an adventure
Speaker 1: after Beach Book because we're going to stay weak. I'ment, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know I will. So I took him out to
Speaker 1: Mount Hood Wilderness by near Trillium Lake. We were about
Speaker 1: a mile a little over a mile from Trillium Lake,
Speaker 1: and uh, I say, to camp because you know, this
Speaker 1: was an adventure I was giving to them. That was
Speaker 1: my gift to them. And they went out. They found footprints,
Speaker 1: they found tree twist and some little oddities and stuff
Speaker 1: through there, and uh the first night there wasn't much
Speaker 1: going on. But the second night, Bob and I were
Speaker 1: sitting up by the fire everybody else had go into bed,
Speaker 1: and uh, he thought he heard a dog barking, but
Speaker 1: it didn't sound quite like a dog. And he looked
Speaker 1: at me and he says, you hear that. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I did I miss that? And then I caught the
Speaker 1: next one. I went interesting. So we walked over this
Speaker 1: area on the other side of where I was camping
Speaker 1: to get a clearer listen of it. And what we
Speaker 1: heard was like that, and there was five vocalizations like that.
Speaker 1: I said, I looked at him. That ain't no dog.
Speaker 1: I said, that's a big foot sasquatch vocalization. And we
Speaker 1: heard tree knocks all the way back. And then things
Speaker 1: kind of settled down for a while, and uh, so
Speaker 1: he decided he's going to bed because we hadn't heard anything. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: in between there, we heard a nine hundred pound bullfrog.
Speaker 1: Because sasquatches like to mimic things, sure, and it sounded
Speaker 1: like a bullfrog, but it wasn't a bullfrog. And when
Speaker 1: it went off, Bob looks at me and I looked
Speaker 1: at him, and he said, gotta sound like a bullfrog.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't a bullfrog. It was a bad imitation.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, it's a nine hundred pound bullfrog. We
Speaker 1: started laughing, and it's like probably seventy five feet from us,
Speaker 1: and so he decides to go to bed. After everything
Speaker 1: kind of settled down, I go laying my chant. Next
Speaker 1: thing I know, there's tapping. I had a cast iron
Speaker 1: pan out because I just bet everybody dinner, made a
Speaker 1: nice spaghetti dinner for them all, and I'm laying there
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I heard a little shuffle outside.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, probably raccoon, you know, coming up because
Speaker 1: we're next to this little marshy area. And next thing
Speaker 1: I know is there's this tapping on my cast iron pan,
Speaker 1: and I consistent tapping, tapped for like thirteen times, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it takes hands and nail or
Speaker 1: her fingers. Something do to with tapping like that. So
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I got a visitor and he's
Speaker 1: right outside my tent, and so I started a conversation
Speaker 1: with him. You know, I was laying out. I was
Speaker 1: actually playing Soda Crush on my phone. So as soon
Speaker 1: as I set that down and everything got the light down,
Speaker 1: you know, and it all stopped. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I waited a few minutes, Okay, nothing, So I started
Speaker 1: playing my game again. It lights up my tent, you know,
Speaker 1: because of my phone coming on and tap tap tap
Speaker 1: tap tap tap tap tap tap again. So I'm like
Speaker 1: to shut my phone down, get it dark, you know,
Speaker 1: And I started talking with him, start a conversation with him.
Speaker 1: And this let went on for half an hour, and
Speaker 1: this little thing back and forth with me and this visitor,
Speaker 1: which I pretty much have to assuming was a sasquatch.
Speaker 1: And the third time it happened, I'm playing my game again.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm playing my game. Do you
Speaker 1: mind if I play my game? And I guess they
Speaker 1: got frustrated, and when he went off, then I heard
Speaker 1: something hit my tent. It was something really light, and
Speaker 1: so I told Marie involved and everybody when we all
Speaker 1: got up the next morning, I said, yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: after all this, I said, something hit my tent. But
Speaker 1: it was really light, you know, and I'm out in
Speaker 1: an area where there's no trees, you know, I'm right
Speaker 1: at the end of the roadway and there's nothing around
Speaker 1: me that could you know, hit my tent. You know,
Speaker 1: if it fell out of a tree, you know, it
Speaker 1: would have to jump about you know, forty yards or so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Marie and I explored around the back of my
Speaker 1: tent and I found this crushed daisy and I picked
Speaker 1: it up and I went, oh, that's interesting, I wonder
Speaker 1: and I looked at Marie and I threw it up
Speaker 1: on the top of my tent. That's the sound, I said. Oh,
Speaker 1: Sasquatch gave me a flour as he was partying. So
Speaker 1: I have that daisy still. I have every gift they
Speaker 1: ever gave me. I've got little hearts, set of stone
Speaker 1: and stones that and the whole thing is is the
Speaker 1: stones that I have a very large quartz crystal stone
Speaker 1: that was gifted to me from my Sasquash group. And
Speaker 1: then I've seen others post the same exact shape of stone. Actually,
Speaker 1: uh Senate posted one and I went, Actually, I got
Speaker 1: the same exact shaped stone, and I said, I know
Speaker 1: a few other people that have the same exact shaped
Speaker 1: stone and which kind of looks like them their head
Speaker 1: in a side profile view, you know, with the sagittal
Speaker 1: crest in the whole nine yards, but you can see
Speaker 1: the nose, the eyes, you know, in the whole nine
Speaker 1: yards that when you turn the stone sideways. I went,
Speaker 1: that's pretty darn interesting that several of us have been
Speaker 1: gifted something like that. So, but the next place I
Speaker 1: went to after Mount Hood, well not right after Mount
Speaker 1: The next thing I went to was a Sasquash summerfest
Speaker 1: and Oakridge, Oregon, with Priscilla Roseman in the Rose and
Speaker 1: Ron and I have become really good friends. In Priscilla
Speaker 1: and I have been really good friends. And I was
Speaker 1: sitting having coffee. My kids were on their way up
Speaker 1: because it was the first camping trip. If my kids
Speaker 1: are coming up and I get to a camp a
Speaker 1: night with my grandkids and there my grandkids were really
Speaker 1: interested in sasquatch. But I'm sitting there in the morning,
Speaker 1: looking across the Wilamotte River and just enjoying my coffee
Speaker 1: and getting myself awake and then out between two trees
Speaker 1: across the river, my juvenile pops up. They followed me everywhere. Wow.
Speaker 1: So and I have proof of that. There was something
Speaker 1: that happened at Oakridge the year before with doctor Arianna Love.
Speaker 1: She's one of the actually top naturropathic doctors in the world,
Speaker 1: and I'd met her there and there was a whole thing.
Speaker 1: I did interviews, which Aeremiah Byron on it. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: to Jeremiah, I kind of helped him facilitate his per
Speaker 1: sasquatch sighting on that weekend. So it's there was actually
Speaker 1: five sightings generated and most of them were misas questions
Speaker 1: that followed me up by the description that they gave me.
Speaker 1: Then Uh I went to uh let us say, I've
Speaker 1: been to uh Drew, Oregon, which is where my partner
Speaker 1: or no true is where my research area is. It's
Speaker 1: near Tiller, Oregon. It's pretty much as the Rogue Unquad divide,
Speaker 1: so it's basically wilderness area and that's where I've had
Speaker 1: all my stuff and that's where I started with my
Speaker 1: fist siding calling Tom out and I had my sighting there.
Speaker 1: I have stands, had five sidings there so far. Like
Speaker 1: I said, they really like him. The last one was
Speaker 1: that we were we had just filmed one of our
Speaker 1: episodes for YouTube called Twist to Tuesday, and what he
Speaker 1: did is he put it in a timeline on that
Speaker 1: so you can check a timeline on it as to
Speaker 1: every discovery we made that day, and people like Ron
Speaker 1: that told us that, you know, my old partner al
Speaker 1: Berry would have looked at you guys and said, you're
Speaker 1: full of it, that you can't find all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So that's what inspired stand to when he did this
Speaker 1: video to put timeline stamps on everything we found that day,
Speaker 1: so you can see, well, one's like five minutes from
Speaker 1: the other one, the other one was like ten minutes away,
Speaker 1: the other one's about twenty minutes away, the other one
Speaker 1: is another five minutes and this and so on and
Speaker 1: so on and so on in only being out for
Speaker 1: five hours. And this is my research. These are things
Speaker 1: I hadn't even discovered yet that we're there. So it's
Speaker 1: nice to have an extra pair of eyes, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: to find this stuff. So you know, because there's another
Speaker 1: perspective I.
Speaker 3: Wanted to ask you. You mentioned the area being where
Speaker 3: you went to originally Tom out on bs M.
Speaker 1: That's the one and Drew what happened?
Speaker 3: What did you do?
Speaker 1: Exactly? And you know, it's what Tom calls in his books.
Speaker 1: That was the whole thing is. You know, Tom wasn't
Speaker 1: really showing me a lot of stuff. We're talking a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but you know, we had lots of
Speaker 1: conversations back and forth. But he has this thing called
Speaker 1: armchair squatching, and this is his thing. That's where you
Speaker 1: just kind of pack a lunch, take a book with you,
Speaker 1: take a share, whatever you know, and you just go
Speaker 1: out in the woods and just get one with the woods,
Speaker 1: listen to all the sounds of the woods, everything that's
Speaker 1: happening out there, and try to connect with them. And
Speaker 1: so I get out there and this is what I'm
Speaker 1: calling bs AUDI. And a matter of fact, there was
Speaker 1: another guy that was up in the area and I'd
Speaker 1: stopped to talk to him because I thought maybe he
Speaker 1: was lost or something. He said, I'm just looking for
Speaker 1: places to write my quad And my intention was the
Speaker 1: whole thing started the a week earlier. Actually, So what
Speaker 1: Tom had said in a podcast that they connect with
Speaker 1: you mentally and that connection can last for life. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, sure. Now I spent an entire week
Speaker 1: thinking going, okay, I'm going to really try this out.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to project and connect with them
Speaker 1: somehow in my mind and consciously that okay, I want
Speaker 1: to meet you. And I would review the sightings I had,
Speaker 1: like my face to pace and the one where he's
Speaker 1: behind my place, and the one that we watched it
Speaker 1: across the field. Those were all three of the same
Speaker 1: sasquatch and I call him big Silber now, but then
Speaker 1: he was blacker than black. It is like looking into
Speaker 1: a black hole because they just absorbed the light. It's
Speaker 1: just a It's really a strange thing to see. And
Speaker 1: my juvenile is the same way, just blacker than black,
Speaker 1: and just it's like a light vacuum, no reflection to
Speaker 1: the hair or anything. It doesn't shine, you know, It's
Speaker 1: just it's just a black void. And so I decided, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go up there. So on my way up,
Speaker 1: I got to experience my first mind speak, which kind
Speaker 1: of freaked me out a little bit. I didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about it. I was figuring, okay, this is telepathy.
Speaker 1: Everybody calls it mine speak, which I didn't know until
Speaker 1: you know, after this happened. But I was getting ready
Speaker 1: to turn off on the main highway and I still
Speaker 1: have another fifteen miles to drive. But as I'm turning off,
Speaker 1: I hear the booming voice in my head, We're not
Speaker 1: going to meet you where you want to meet, Because
Speaker 1: I spent the whole week of rolling over everything in
Speaker 1: my mind that I wanted to meet that particular Sasquatch
Speaker 1: and that and where to meet. There's a place that
Speaker 1: I've hunted. I've been up there since God, since I
Speaker 1: was sixteen seventeen years old. I've gone. I know every
Speaker 1: inch of the mountain. I walked every inch of it.
Speaker 1: And there's a space, a prairie area that I was
Speaker 1: concentrating on and picturing in my mind, you know, because
Speaker 1: like I say, I know every square inch of this
Speaker 1: mountain and this is where I want to meet you guys.
Speaker 1: But as I turned onto that highway, that big booming
Speaker 1: voice came out said We're not going to meet where
Speaker 1: you wanted to meet. And I'm looking all over my friend,
Speaker 1: going where the hell did that come from? Because it
Speaker 1: kind of it kind of freaked me out. I was
Speaker 1: not expecting that it's nothing that's everything never happened to
Speaker 1: me before. Or I just thought, okay, Bill, calm down,
Speaker 1: you're starting to lose it. Something very strange is going
Speaker 1: on here, and so, you know, I just kind of
Speaker 1: put it in the back of my mind. But when
Speaker 1: I got up there after I talked to this gentleman,
Speaker 1: you know, I drove up as far as I could,
Speaker 1: and I hit a wall of snow, you know, about
Speaker 1: five feet deep and uh because which means at the
Speaker 1: top there's it was probably fifteen feet deep. So the
Speaker 1: road didn't go through yet things hadn't melted off because
Speaker 1: it goes all the way up over five thousand feet
Speaker 1: on this mountain where I'm at, and there's another area
Speaker 1: called that I called the truck. I dubbed it's a
Speaker 1: triangle marsh because it's a triangle shape little marsh, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, okay, this looks like the place.
Speaker 1: The other guy caught up with me, and so we
Speaker 1: chatted up for a little bit and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: he took off. But at the time he and I
Speaker 1: were chatting, there was another truck that flew by, and
Speaker 1: we're laughing as he goes by and go out, he'll
Speaker 1: be back in a minute. Sure enough he's turned around
Speaker 1: headed back the other way. Yep, you're not getting through.
Speaker 1: So we finished our conversation. I well, I guess this
Speaker 1: isn't a good place as any So I grab my
Speaker 1: lunch because I'm doing everything that Tom instructed me to do.
Speaker 1: And another thing that he instructed me to do is
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to him when they're there. You know
Speaker 1: they're there. You can look over once in a while,
Speaker 1: you know, you said, But the more you ignore them,
Speaker 1: the longer your sighting will be. My signing lasted forty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Wow that day. Oh well, I've had longer ones.
Speaker 1: But so I grabbed my lunch. I went down through
Speaker 1: the woods and stuff, and I'm looking around. Okay, worre
Speaker 1: it's a good spot. Well, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: look out over the marsh, so I have a good
Speaker 1: view of the area and everything. And there's this Douglas
Speaker 1: spur root that comes out. The thing's geez, probably i'd
Speaker 1: say ten inches in diameter that came out into like
Speaker 1: a little bench. I went, oh, this is perfect. I
Speaker 1: can sit here, I can look out over the field.
Speaker 1: And guess what book I brought with me, sasquatch face
Speaker 1: to Face by Tom Cantrell. I hadn't completely read it yet,
Speaker 1: so I pay, oh, well, this is a good opportunity
Speaker 1: to read it while I'm out there. So I sat
Speaker 1: down and relaxed for a minute or so, went yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a good spot. Kick back on that little bench.
Speaker 1: And the first thing in my head is and I
Speaker 1: thought this. I didn't say it out loud. I just
Speaker 1: thought it, Okay, give me a tree knock. Damn it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Just half a second later I got a tree knock,
Speaker 1: and it was seemed like it was probably about a
Speaker 1: quarter mile away to my southwest. Okay, maybe that was
Speaker 1: an anomaly. So I started reading a book. I'm relaxing there.
Speaker 1: Then the next thing I know, I hear a whistle
Speaker 1: to the south of me, and then I hear another
Speaker 1: one to the west of me. Then I heard one
Speaker 1: directly to the north of me, behind me on the hillside,
Speaker 1: and uh, it was like a tactical whistle, you know,
Speaker 1: them telling each other, Okay, I'm here, i'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 1: You know, they've got me surrounded on three sides. But
Speaker 1: they left aside to my vehicle open. So if I
Speaker 1: wanted to make a mark, if they wanted to march
Speaker 1: me out of there. They had no problem doing that,
Speaker 1: you know, they could just direct me back towards the vehicle.
Speaker 1: So here the hell out of me. But by this
Speaker 1: time I've already lost my pharaoh, you know. And what
Speaker 1: did that was a podcast I've seen that guy said
Speaker 1: they never tried to hurt me. And I thought about
Speaker 1: it and perseverated on that, which is, you know, overthinking
Speaker 1: about it. And I went, you know what, I had
Speaker 1: four sightings. Every time there was no aggression. They never
Speaker 1: tried to hurt me. Why am I so terrified? And
Speaker 1: I dropped the fear And that's what made all the
Speaker 1: difference in the world. So I'm sitting on that bench.
Speaker 1: The whistles went on, and I'm like, okay, and I
Speaker 1: look up and I've looked out field and there's wait
Speaker 1: a minute, what is that. I see this sill relooking
Speaker 1: bush there, and I'm going, now, I know there's no
Speaker 1: bush there? What am I looking at? And I got over,
Speaker 1: I got up, stood up and looked at it about
Speaker 1: three different times. By the third time, I went, oh,
Speaker 1: you're here. Is hairy turned silver? You know it still
Speaker 1: has black. You can see both colors it's like the
Speaker 1: ends were silver and the inner part closest to his
Speaker 1: body were still black, and which would make sense because
Speaker 1: we're both probably he's probably been older than me, probably
Speaker 1: at least ten or fifteen years, if not more. So
Speaker 1: it made sense to me, Well, you know the hair
Speaker 1: is going to change color. You know, their's is like
Speaker 1: cars or they've reported every color that you could, you
Speaker 1: know the humans have of the sasquatches. So I thought, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what he was kind of sitting on his heels with
Speaker 1: his knuckles dragtly in front of him. And one of
Speaker 1: the questions I had was how do they hide in
Speaker 1: plain sight and not be seen? Well, he's showing me,
Speaker 1: and he showed me. He had his knuckles to the
Speaker 1: ground in front of him and his head down so
Speaker 1: you couldn't see his eyes, and he just looked like
Speaker 1: a bush. If I'd been out there walking, I could
Speaker 1: have come within feet of him still wouldn't have recognize
Speaker 1: that there's a sassoure sitting there. So that kind of
Speaker 1: amazed me. Yeah, I went, oh, I understand, now, okay,
Speaker 1: this is how you that's where these people are going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was watching a tree stump and it got up
Speaker 1: and walked away. I understand that, you know, because they
Speaker 1: consider for hours like a statue. He never moved one
Speaker 1: single hair, you know. That's in the forty five minutes
Speaker 1: he was sitting there. But once I recognized it was him,
Speaker 1: I sat down, well, okay, And next thing I know,
Speaker 1: directly to my west was three super fast tree knocks.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like machine gun knocks. And I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa. I should have been able to see
Speaker 1: what was knocking. It was that close, you know, because
Speaker 1: I can see him and through the woods, and I
Speaker 1: didn't see it. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. So the
Speaker 1: next time, you know, because I'm still trying to ignore him,
Speaker 1: were there, you know, I'd get up every few minutes
Speaker 1: to stretch my back and stand up and kind of
Speaker 1: look over him. He's still there. And the next time
Speaker 1: I got up, I looked over and his juvenile was
Speaker 1: standing next to him. And I had to call Tom
Speaker 1: after that because I'd never seen a juvenile. I never
Speaker 1: even thought about a juvenile, I said Tom. I thought
Speaker 1: it'd be bigger. He's like, well, you know, they got
Speaker 1: to start out small. You know, he's a kid, you know.
Speaker 1: Estimating me was probably about eight years old in sund
Speaker 1: squash years, in which Tom agreed, you know, that's about
Speaker 1: the age he would have been. Right now, he's right
Speaker 1: around preteen or right just turned teenager, and he's filling out.
Speaker 1: He's taller than I am, but at the time, it's
Speaker 1: about five foot tall, standing next to his head on
Speaker 1: his shoulder, and got that little rock back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know, left or right, and and uh I look
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, wow, sky hmm, that's a juvenile. Okay,
Speaker 1: looks like a stick figure with hair because of hair
Speaker 1: rut off the bottom of his arms about six inches,
Speaker 1: you know. And and I swear you know, if you
Speaker 1: ever see these these kids that live in their parents'
Speaker 1: basement and the only thing they've ever lifted was a
Speaker 1: video game controller, you know, their arms are like the
Speaker 1: size of a pencil. And right, you know, that's what
Speaker 1: he looked like, except you had hair. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh wow. You know, I'm being introduced to the juvenile.
Speaker 1: And that's the one I interact with most, is the juvenile.
Speaker 1: And the citing lasted for forty five minutes, So after
Speaker 1: it was over, I walked up th Road because I
Speaker 1: knew the juvenile came from the west. So I walked
Speaker 1: up the road to go look for Prince and I
Speaker 1: found three prints and uh, you know, not a dig step.
Speaker 1: The first step from foot the foot heel to heel
Speaker 1: was a thirty two inch step. The next one was
Speaker 1: thirty four inch and the next one was thirty four inches,
Speaker 1: so I could see where he came from and you know,
Speaker 1: and then hit it out to where you know, he
Speaker 1: ended up with the other side of the marsh there,
Speaker 1: which was only about it's about seventy five eighty yards
Speaker 1: away and the rest is history. I mean, I was hooked.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, Tom's stuff really worked. It's what he
Speaker 1: calls armchair squatching, but it works. And this is what
Speaker 1: I'm going to be teaching people on the puzzle is
Speaker 1: what happens is if you had a siding, they've already
Speaker 1: chosen you. And that's the whole thing is. I don't
Speaker 1: think she reveals themselves to people unless they choose them,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's when they kind of show themselves
Speaker 1: and they're kind of fishing poor a reaction like they
Speaker 1: did with me when I was sixteen and seventeen, and
Speaker 1: you know, my reaction was terror, which it is with
Speaker 1: most people. And what I understand about that now is
Speaker 1: that it's your own perception. You know. I was raised
Speaker 1: with monster movies and everything. I couldn't wait to get
Speaker 1: home from school because they were monster movies on. You know.
Speaker 1: It was there were a show that was on and
Speaker 1: they showed monster movies, you know, at a particular time.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I watched all the utterly mins
Speaker 1: and things growing up. And I'm not sure about your age,
Speaker 1: but you know, we had a lot of monster shows
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, for sure. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's what gives me is everybody calls them, you know,
Speaker 1: a monster, and it's like they're actually far from it.
Speaker 1: They're so much like us, it's amazing. But they're not us,
Speaker 1: you know, they think differently, but they can communicate with
Speaker 1: you in any way they wish. They can do it
Speaker 1: through mental telepathy, mind speak, they can do it with thoughts.
Speaker 1: Because I'm constantly connected to them. They know everything that
Speaker 1: I'm doing. And anytime they visit me in my house
Speaker 1: and I live in town. They come into my house,
Speaker 1: they moved things around to let me know they were there.
Speaker 1: They deep gifts and I never thought that'd be happening either,
Speaker 1: and Tom never mentioned that part. I actually learned that
Speaker 1: from ar Le Collette Williams. You know that, you know,
Speaker 1: because they're always leaving her gifts, and I have other
Speaker 1: friends that they lead gifts. They've been into their car,
Speaker 1: they've taken stolen their snacks. That little turn stole my sacks. Uh,
Speaker 1: my son. Even in California, we found a trackway up here.
Speaker 1: I had taken squashing them for the first time, and
Speaker 1: we found a trackway over four hundred frants in the snow.
Speaker 1: It was my entire Sasquatch family. It was from the
Speaker 1: smallest one, which I call Toddles because it's toddler. I
Speaker 1: still haven't met that one yet. I met the alpha
Speaker 1: female and the juvenile, and I've known the other one
Speaker 1: for you know, the whole forty five years. So it's uh.
Speaker 1: And they've always been there whenever I'm out hunting in
Speaker 1: the woods everything, even though I didn't want nothing to
Speaker 1: do with them. I've heard them chatting in the woods
Speaker 1: when I know there's nobody else out there, tree knocks,
Speaker 1: I've had things tossed across my path many many times,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's the time I never understood the
Speaker 1: tree bricks, but I didn't know the tree knocks were them,
Speaker 1: you know. I figured that out with before finding Big
Speaker 1: Put and Expedition Big Put and all this stuff. I
Speaker 1: already knew that that was them. And I hear that
Speaker 1: and has heard it my entire life. Everywhere I go
Speaker 1: in the woods, I get tree knocks. So it's quite amazing.
Speaker 1: And I took a video recently called on my YouTube,
Speaker 1: When and How I Became a Sasquatch Researcher, which tells
Speaker 1: this particular story. While I was filming it, I was
Speaker 1: out there solo. My partner now is going through it
Speaker 1: right now and re edited in and what he's doing
Speaker 1: is taking out my ms. Dell, you got too many
Speaker 1: ums there with a pause, and I'm cutting that stuff out,
Speaker 1: you know. He said, I'm trying to make you look intelligent.
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm watching the Senate hearings
Speaker 1: and these senators out there doing the same thing. I said,
Speaker 1: you know why we do it. It's because we're collecting
Speaker 1: our thoughts, right So the next thing we're going to say,
Speaker 1: you know, So I take this video and it ended
Speaker 1: up a two parter. And the weird part is is
Speaker 1: he's finding what is most likely infrasound. While I was
Speaker 1: videotaping this, there was no wind, and he's looking at
Speaker 1: the leaves behind me, going, well, it was windy you.
Speaker 1: I said, do you hear wind on the microphone? He
Speaker 1: said no, absolutely none. I said, there was no wind
Speaker 1: at that time. The leaves behind me were vibrating. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: My recorder actually shut off at one point towards the end.
Speaker 1: That's why it ended up a two parter. And as
Speaker 1: soon as it came back on, it should not have
Speaker 1: come back on. Once you turn this thing, shut this
Speaker 1: thing down, it stops period. You know, you have to
Speaker 1: physically restarted and everything. And I didn't restart it. It
Speaker 1: came on automatically, and just after it came back on,
Speaker 1: I heard a tree knock. You know, I had no
Speaker 1: idea I was getting hit with infrasound or anything else.
Speaker 1: But he's working on getting through this one because there's
Speaker 1: more stuff he's finding as far as the infrasound goes
Speaker 1: and the sound anomalies. So we'll be uh reposting a
Speaker 1: newer version of that that's been edited for this to
Speaker 1: show the sound bars and everything when the sound went
Speaker 1: crazy and he only found it because he was rewinding
Speaker 1: and he watched the the sound bars go bananas. He's like,
Speaker 1: what was that? And he started playing it back and forth,
Speaker 1: going there's something here and it's inaudible. You can't it's
Speaker 1: blow our hearing. And that's when he discovered, well, I've
Speaker 1: got infrosound on that. So that's what he's working on
Speaker 1: right now as well, and that should be out here shortly.
Speaker 1: But I did that one several months ago, and that
Speaker 1: was when I first started the puzzle because I wanted
Speaker 1: people know this is you know where my restart started.
Speaker 3: Do you have any answers? So, like, obviously you're talking
Speaker 3: about things that many people have repeated and said in
Speaker 3: the past. You know, there's people out there experiencing these
Speaker 3: things that have no explanation.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, how do they do the things they do?
Speaker 3: How do they go from this spot in Oregon to
Speaker 3: your house to California?
Speaker 1: Well they now they go all the way down. My
Speaker 1: son lives just out of the Mahabi Desert in Landers, California.
Speaker 1: Stan lives in Winston, or not Winston, but ten mile, Oregon,
Speaker 1: which from here is right around ninety five miles from
Speaker 1: my driveway. Beach Foot was in Rainier, Oregon, way up
Speaker 1: towards the Oregon border, across from Vancouver, know than oak Ridge.
Speaker 1: They followed me everywhere and they kind of act as
Speaker 1: my bodyguard. But as far as answers go, man, every
Speaker 1: time we get an answered a question answered, we have
Speaker 1: a thousand more. Yeah. That's just the way this is it.
Speaker 1: It is a bottomless rabbit hole. And that's the first
Speaker 1: thing I told Stan the first day I took him out.
Speaker 1: I looked at him, I said, are you ready for this?
Speaker 1: And so yeah, yeah, I said, this is a very
Speaker 1: cheap rabbit hole that really has no bottom. Oh, I've
Speaker 1: been down rabbit holes before. Well oh boy, you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a whole different opinion of the ex now
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, he said. The amazing part is that
Speaker 1: once one questions answered, I got a thousand more. I said, exactly.
Speaker 1: I said, this is endless, and it's going to be endless,
Speaker 1: you know, as long as we do this for the
Speaker 1: rest of our lives. But that's the reason I started
Speaker 1: the Sasquatch puzzle. It's so hopefully people that work with
Speaker 1: us to everybody has a piece of the puzzle. And
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for years, and that's where the
Speaker 1: name comes from. I've always said everybody has a piece
Speaker 1: of this puzzle, and if we all start to communicate together,
Speaker 1: we can put it into a bigger picture where we
Speaker 1: can better understand them and maybe, you know, form better
Speaker 1: relationships with them. And you know, because there aren't a
Speaker 1: lot of people that have the type of relationship I have,
Speaker 1: Tom had Arla has, you know, and other people have
Speaker 1: with them. There aren't a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: that are, but they don't talk about it. You know,
Speaker 1: they help them on their property, They you know, been
Speaker 1: interacting with them a long time, but they don't tell anybody.
Speaker 1: You know. There's so many people out of there about
Speaker 1: for probably every one siding, there's at least ten that
Speaker 1: don't get reported, right or more. I would have to
Speaker 1: say more than ten. I would be probably more of
Speaker 1: the lines of twenty one in twenty is probably reported.
Speaker 1: And who fort it to BFRO? Let me tell you
Speaker 1: about this. The BFRO has over sixty six thousand sightings registered.
Speaker 1: What do they let us see about six thousand? That's it?
Speaker 1: What are they hiding and why are they doing that?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is one thing you
Speaker 1: don't find in their sight and in their sightings is
Speaker 1: the wu part. They don't believe in any of that.
Speaker 1: And the only way you get introduced to that part is,
Speaker 1: first of all, if they're comfortable with you, they show
Speaker 1: you more things, things that they can do. Why there's
Speaker 1: two separate groups, It's ridiculous, it really is, you know.
Speaker 1: And I used to be the same way. I was,
Speaker 1: flesh and blood all the way. King Gerhart will tell
Speaker 1: you he's like, no, no, Bill. And I s out
Speaker 1: there and picked apart these other people's little things that
Speaker 1: the conferences and stuff. We're laughing out and go, yeah,
Speaker 1: other these guys are nuts, you know. L it happening
Speaker 1: to me and I'm like, you know, just grabbing the throws.
Speaker 1: That's when I started calling Tom, Tom. I think I'm
Speaker 1: going banana, I said, you know, Tom, for three months,
Speaker 1: I've been hearing my name called in the woods by
Speaker 1: a woman. And this led up to my six siding,
Speaker 1: which lasted an hour and a half. I actually sat there,
Speaker 1: played my guitar to him and chatted with him. And
Speaker 1: I actually have a photograph, actually two photographs from that day,
Speaker 1: my Sasquatch female and her juvenile my little buddy JJ,
Speaker 1: but I haven't had That was taken on a crappy
Speaker 1: camera on my phone, my last phone, which was really
Speaker 1: not a top of the line phone. But it is
Speaker 1: actually fairly crisp and clear. And uh, I've got a
Speaker 1: couple of people that are going to work on enhancing
Speaker 1: that bring out more detail. I know there's a monkey
Speaker 1: business you can do with gray scale and stuff, and
Speaker 1: different things said it'll bring it out, but I've given
Speaker 1: it actually to four different people and nobody's come through yet.
Speaker 3: But you did something that most people don't and that
Speaker 3: is you know, you're talking about how much it would
Speaker 3: benefit the entire Bigfoot community if everybody had just work
Speaker 3: together and share information. And one of the key things
Speaker 3: that you did that a lot of people don't do
Speaker 3: is you ignored your preconceived opinions and theories and you
Speaker 3: just tried it. You just listened and tried it just
Speaker 3: to see for yourself. Hey, I'm just going to find
Speaker 3: out if this really works or not. And it slammed
Speaker 3: open barn doors for you.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it. And the thing of it is is
Speaker 1: I watched Not Finding Bigfoot for ten years. You know
Speaker 1: that Cliff and Bobo and I've never sorry, but I'm
Speaker 1: not a moneymaker. Fan. Renne and I you know, chat
Speaker 1: on occasion and uh, but all the stuff that they did,
Speaker 1: I was sitting here. I'm a critical thinker, you know.
Speaker 1: I use reasoning logic, you know. And that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: If you if you don't, you know, there's no point
Speaker 1: in doing this right because I'd never do say when
Speaker 1: I put out the videos and stuff that this is
Speaker 1: actually Sasquatch. It's like I wasn't here. I didn't see
Speaker 1: this being built, you know, So I can't say that
Speaker 1: this is absolutely Sasquatch. Now I can see the footprints
Speaker 1: are and I got plenty of them. But other than that,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as proof goes, it's like I
Speaker 1: didn't see it being made. So you'll you'll see me
Speaker 1: in the video. Well you know, I'll always say, well
Speaker 1: what do you think? You know? And that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Is I put out one this morning. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw it, but what it is is one. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was from one of our videos called dream Weaver
Speaker 1: and another researcher in Cottage Grove, her name is Anette Smith,
Speaker 1: and the Nett pointed out when we first put that out.
Speaker 1: She says the bill you need to go into about
Speaker 1: the one minute ten mark. There's something there you need
Speaker 1: to see, and we think we got photo bombed. So
Speaker 1: Stan actually went in and he blew all that up.
Speaker 1: It's only a couple of minutes long to video, and
Speaker 1: you can definitely see this thing movie. It pops up
Speaker 1: from the side of a tree. You can see the
Speaker 1: heads and shoulders, you can see it move you can
Speaker 1: see movement and and everything. It's like it wasn't something
Speaker 1: we were expecting, and but we've been asking for We've
Speaker 1: been telling them, Hey, guys, anybody we want a photobombas
Speaker 1: that would be cool. You know, it'll go a long
Speaker 1: ways to showing that you know, you are real, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think we actually got one. So you'll have
Speaker 1: to watch that and tell me what you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Do you think they have any interest
Speaker 3: in being proven to exist?
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no interest in proving they exist.
Speaker 1: I already know they do. You know, when I was
Speaker 1: face to face, that pretty much submitted what I was
Speaker 1: looking at. And even though I didn't believe it, I
Speaker 1: had no choice. You know. It's like when you're two
Speaker 1: feet away from something that's about nine foot four, it's
Speaker 1: four feet across the shoulders, three feet deep in the chest,
Speaker 1: and you're looking eye to eye with it. Its eyes
Speaker 1: are illuminated, there was no light to illuminate them with.
Speaker 1: And it's a series in your mind pretty much guarantees
Speaker 1: that you're going to become a believer. Like right now,
Speaker 1: there's no incensor. Buts He's like, now you believe it? Now?
Speaker 1: Yes I do. Matter of fact, I was terrified, but yes,
Speaker 1: I believe it.
Speaker 3: Why do you think that one chose to show itself
Speaker 3: to you like that?
Speaker 1: Well, probably because of the way I am. I'm very
Speaker 1: open minded, very calm, you know. You at the time,
Speaker 1: you see, you know, fairly high vibing. It's the time,
Speaker 1: you know, life changed me for a long this time.
Speaker 1: But now I'm getting back up there and building my
Speaker 1: own personal frequencies by changing my outlook on things and
Speaker 1: the way I look at things. And I think they
Speaker 1: understand that. And I think a lot of their stuff
Speaker 1: when they want to interact with somebody is way pre planned.
Speaker 1: They already know what's going on and when it's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and where you're going to be, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not by accident. It is all with purpose.
Speaker 1: So if folks are having a sighting, do you want
Speaker 1: to have a relationship with him? Number One, lose your fear.
Speaker 1: Lose your fear and triggering in for curiosity, and don't
Speaker 1: be afraid. They've never tried to hurt me. You hear
Speaker 1: all these horror stories, but you kind of realize people
Speaker 1: are explaining things from their own perception and their own fears.
Speaker 1: I have no fear. The only fear I ever had
Speaker 1: was the Sasquatch. I used to be afraid of heights
Speaker 1: and different things, and I faced them. I learned a
Speaker 1: long time ago. I've read a lot of psychology growing up,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you need to face your fears. We
Speaker 1: make them up. We make up our own fears. That's
Speaker 1: why everybody has different fears because you made it up.
Speaker 1: Something happened along the line in your life, or you've
Speaker 1: got an example from somebody else that caused you to
Speaker 1: fear something like oh spiders, Oh no, you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna eat me. No, I catch them up and let
Speaker 1: them go outside, you know. So you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: lot closer to nature than a lot of people are.
Speaker 1: As well, you know, some people are couch surfers. They
Speaker 1: live in the city and they never get themselves off
Speaker 1: the couch and out in the woods, you know. So
Speaker 1: and those are the ones the trolls that we get,
Speaker 1: you know, that are calling bs on us because you know,
Speaker 1: they don't believe in anything. And there's these people that
Speaker 1: i spent my entire life in the woods and I've
Speaker 1: never seen anything. Well, you know, first of all, maybe
Speaker 1: they don't like you, you know, yeah, you know, you
Speaker 1: know they have to. They choose you, you don't choose him.
Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be doing this at this point
Speaker 1: in my life. Ever, this was not on my radar
Speaker 1: whatsoever at all. Sam too, Sand's whole life has changed.
Speaker 1: That poor guy Kay has come a long ways in
Speaker 1: a short period of time. I've taught him well, and
Speaker 1: he's one hell of an asset because he used to
Speaker 1: do you know, investigations for you know, the Sheriff's department,
Speaker 1: and he's very stup, very observant and just amazing.
Speaker 3: Well, tell everybody where they can find your stuff. I'm
Speaker 3: sure the listeners are going to want to check out
Speaker 3: these videos. You've got some amazing track way evidence posted
Speaker 3: on your Facebook page that I was looking over. I'm
Speaker 3: particularly fond of the tracks, and I guess we're stalking
Speaker 3: a goose.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I looked up what type of bird? And
Speaker 1: everybody's going, well, you know, I'm like, well, what large birds?
Speaker 1: Was a print this size? It never mentioned Canadian geese.
Speaker 1: It said it could have been an egret, It could
Speaker 1: have been a heroine. It could have been a wild turkey,
Speaker 1: you know, a very large wild turkey. But we were
Speaker 1: there a few weeks ago and we actually found another trackway,
Speaker 1: which that'll be up here whenever Stan gets to it.
Speaker 1: And that one was a fifty two inch step, fifty
Speaker 1: four inch step, fifty four inch step, and we tried
Speaker 1: to step it, step it off to see if we
Speaker 1: could do it. I was first one to do it.
Speaker 1: He filmed it, and I can't do it now. If
Speaker 1: I was running, that would be a different thing. But
Speaker 1: it was actually a another researcher friend of mine, Mark Gould,
Speaker 1: who used to live here in Salem, but he's moved
Speaker 1: back to I say, Arkansas. He's not that far from Todd.
Speaker 1: Todd d and uh he said, uh, you know, Bill,
Speaker 1: I saw that video and it looks like they're stalking
Speaker 1: the bird. I'm like, well that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 1: And and so we were out a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Sat and I and uh we were down there. We
Speaker 1: found that one track way, but there was some geese
Speaker 1: down there, and uh so I'm looking at fresh tracks
Speaker 1: from the geese because we kind of chased them off
Speaker 1: a little bit because we were looking for tracks. And uh,
Speaker 1: I looked down at the footprint the foot and I
Speaker 1: went and I measured it, and that's it. He's like
Speaker 1: what I said, they were tracking a goose. The goose
Speaker 1: makes an imprint just like that. And I said, there
Speaker 1: it is right there, that's the same exact imprint, and
Speaker 1: so we had ascertaining it. Well, that's it's likely that
Speaker 1: they were stalking a goose. Well, you know, we like
Speaker 1: to eat goose. They are cuite cristy. So and that's
Speaker 1: what it looks like is they were they were probably
Speaker 1: stocking a goose, because just after that we're the tracks disappear,
Speaker 1: which the goose was probably flying off or you know,
Speaker 1: started to leave the ground, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: cast we have a lot of toe slips from them,
Speaker 1: you know, running or accelerating to maybe running catch the thing.
Speaker 1: You know, so it was probably starting to take flight
Speaker 1: when the tracks of the goose disappeared. But their tracks
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you could see all the toe
Speaker 1: slips and everything that was happening. Is they're they're going
Speaker 1: after it. So it made sense to us to you know,
Speaker 1: looking at things and putting it all together, that that's
Speaker 1: probably what happened. So it was really interesting. But as
Speaker 1: far as finding me, folks on Facebook, just go to
Speaker 1: the Sasquatch Puzzle, uh, like and follow. We appreciate it
Speaker 1: because we don't charge anybody for our site, our video
Speaker 1: or anything else. What we're trying to do is get
Speaker 1: up enough people that are on our sites to where
Speaker 1: Facebook will pass and YouTube will pass, you know, once
Speaker 1: we get up to a certain membership and stuff, and
Speaker 1: all you got to do is like and subscribe on
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel the same name, the Sasquatch Puzzle. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of videos there because we're just like
Speaker 1: I said, we're just getting started with This is actually
Speaker 1: a new site and we're just starting from Winstan and
Speaker 1: I got together and started this whole thing. So I
Speaker 1: never thought I'd be taking on a partner, you know,
Speaker 1: But when they liked him, so much that he had
Speaker 1: poor sightings in two days. And all the things that
Speaker 1: he and I found that were in my own area
Speaker 1: that I've been going to for five years and I
Speaker 1: never found him. Yeah, and he started spotting all these
Speaker 1: things because I taught him very well. He was a
Speaker 1: past study, very quick study, and he started seeing all
Speaker 1: these things and go, wait, wait, Rakes. You know, some
Speaker 1: days we get up there and we go fifty feet
Speaker 1: and we found something else. Then we go one hundred yards,
Speaker 1: we find something else. You're another fifty feet something else.
Speaker 1: And it was just saying after thing after thing, and
Speaker 1: it was just incredible. But yeah, the sasquatch puzzle. And
Speaker 1: the reason, like I said, I named it is because
Speaker 1: we all have a piece of that puzzle. And the
Speaker 1: coolest thing is is if we all start to share
Speaker 1: and talk with each other about all these things, we
Speaker 1: get a bigger picture, you know, because everybody has a
Speaker 1: different experience. I think they choose people for different missions
Speaker 1: to do things. And part of mine is debunking that
Speaker 1: they're monsters. They're not monsters, you know. They think that, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the males wander and they gather somewhere for
Speaker 1: breeding season, all what a bunch of bs as far
Speaker 1: as I can tell, the ones that I have interacted with,
Speaker 1: and I've interacted with five different clans now of Sasquatch,
Speaker 1: and but the ones that I mainly go or the
Speaker 1: family unit that I study up in the jew area,
Speaker 1: and as far as I can tell, they're monogamous. They
Speaker 1: stay together. He was the same lady Sasquatch. And you
Speaker 1: know the coolest part is she looks like Patty. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: And the whole thing is is as far as from
Speaker 1: there to Bluff Creek is only around one hundred miles
Speaker 1: as the crow flies, so it's a good possibility she
Speaker 1: could be related to Patty. That would be something maybe
Speaker 1: one of her daughters or her granddaughter. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't ask her age. And you know
Speaker 1: you've got yeah that's it. Oh yeah, Or you're in trouble,
Speaker 1: pack your bag, you camping with the dog. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had some amazing experiences this year. This last year
Speaker 1: has just been totally off the hook. I got one
Speaker 1: trackway this on there which I had the prints here
Speaker 1: from Blue River, Oregon up in the Lamba National Person.
Speaker 1: That's because of the the researcher Annett smith A Nette
Speaker 1: had a siding there of two juveniles, and she wrote
Speaker 1: me right away when she came back. They were up
Speaker 1: there camping with family, and she posted or sent me
Speaker 1: several pictures of footprints as well as tree structures, and
Speaker 1: then just told me her story. So I went up
Speaker 1: there to go investigate it because I used to live
Speaker 1: in Springfield, which is, you know, about fifty miles away
Speaker 1: from Blue River. And I went up there to go
Speaker 1: do this on my own just after it was like
Speaker 1: two days after she contacted me and said she just
Speaker 1: had the siding up there. So I went up to
Speaker 1: kind of corroborate the siding, but I never asked her
Speaker 1: where it was exactly. I know where it is now
Speaker 1: after the fact. But I thought, well, I know all
Speaker 1: the spots up there. I've been going up there for
Speaker 1: thirty years, you know, because I lived in the Springfield
Speaker 1: Eugene area for a long time. But so I went
Speaker 1: up there on my own. The first place I explored
Speaker 1: up there, I was hearing what I described as mouth pops.
Speaker 1: So there was a juvenile or maybe it could have
Speaker 1: been adult. I don't know, but you know, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: it was a juvenile because all the tracks. I found
Speaker 1: them were juvenile and three different sizes, the same as
Speaker 1: up here at the applegate. And I found trackaway probably
Speaker 1: over one hundred prince and I casted probably about fifteen
Speaker 1: of them. I left several behind because all of a
Speaker 1: sudden a thunderstorm opened up on me. I was trying
Speaker 1: to get up there before the thunderstorm started, and you know,
Speaker 1: so if I found anything, I could cast them with stuff.
Speaker 1: And at the last spot, I'm at the backside of
Speaker 1: a coffer dam and I just said, well, you know, wow,
Speaker 1: when I pulled up there the first time, I looked
Speaker 1: down and go, man, that water's way down there, and
Speaker 1: it's down a boat launch, which you know, they're pretty
Speaker 1: darn steep, and I'm like, do I really want to
Speaker 1: go down there and go look around? And uh, well,
Speaker 1: I went up the road and I was looking for,
Speaker 1: you know, any other spots. It's like, man, that's the
Speaker 1: one logical place you know that I could find those,
Speaker 1: aside from a campground there, which was closed, you know,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to kind of break into That's
Speaker 1: where in that Hatter sighting was that campground, you come
Speaker 1: to find out? You know, So I was gonna just
Speaker 1: point I'd gone way down the road and turned around
Speaker 1: and came back up and went back up to this
Speaker 1: backside there, which is where me and my buddies used
Speaker 1: to always put the boat in, and we I got
Speaker 1: thousands of fish out of that place. But I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm looking down there, going that's a long ways down there. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. So I go hiking down
Speaker 1: this thing, and it's like a quarter mile or more
Speaker 1: down actually, it's probably closer to a half mile down
Speaker 1: down the flats way below the launch area. And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a run down there and go
Speaker 1: look around. And as soon as I got off launch
Speaker 1: started watering down to the first flat. I started as
Speaker 1: I found the footprints, and I found a lot of footprints.
Speaker 1: I found the trackways there, and then I was measuring
Speaker 1: away and I was like, well, I got three different
Speaker 1: sasquatches here, and they're all juveniles, and uh so I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I got to walk all the way back up
Speaker 1: the hill, go get my casting supplies, then drag them
Speaker 1: all the way back down here, which I did, you know,
Speaker 1: as quickly as I could, because I know these storms
Speaker 1: are coming in and I've got to get this done
Speaker 1: before I get out of there. And uh, most of
Speaker 1: the casts because they, you know, I couldn't wait long
Speaker 1: enough because the storm was hitting. I broke. But I
Speaker 1: put them all back together, and most actually most of them,
Speaker 1: you can't tell them I broke them. I did a
Speaker 1: heck of a job of putting them back together, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you. But yeah, with the first crack of thunder
Speaker 1: that I actually felt in my chest, I knew it
Speaker 1: was time to get out of there, because I was
Speaker 1: the tallest thing out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's time to go at that point.
Speaker 1: So I was a little stressed and nervous and in
Speaker 1: a hurry. So I left about five or six prints behind.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't wait, you know, for this thing
Speaker 1: to blow over anything else because they were still soft.
Speaker 1: They were soft to the touch, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just going to have to deal with
Speaker 1: what I got and sacrifice those and get myself out
Speaker 1: of here. You know, this is two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: miles from my house, you know, for me to drive
Speaker 1: all the way up there from where I currently live
Speaker 1: in Medford. But yeah, it's like I got a beat,
Speaker 1: beat get myself out of here. But there was I
Speaker 1: counted over over one hundred prints in that trackway, a
Speaker 1: three individual, three juveniles, and that's where it started. And
Speaker 1: now I keep finding juvenile trackways. I have found in
Speaker 1: the past year six trackways, all juveniles, every one of them.
Speaker 1: We've found a few adult prints mixed in here and there,
Speaker 1: but they were washed out or you know, you could
Speaker 1: just see that this is an adult print. You know,
Speaker 1: we measure them and everything go, yeah, well that's an adult,
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, a young adult by the
Speaker 1: size and everything, and it's like, okay. Unfortunately, when I
Speaker 1: found the trackway at oh, you've heard of the big
Speaker 1: Foot Trap, right, yeah, for sure, Okay, well this is
Speaker 1: less than a mile from the big Foot Trap. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: that Applegate Lake. But yeah, it's been an insane year.
Speaker 1: You know. I found the ones at Blue River, then
Speaker 1: see my juvenile at oak Ridge. Then been through Rogue
Speaker 1: River National Forest, fine prints there Red Views Wilderness, which
Speaker 1: is near Applegate Lake. That's the backside headed towards California.
Speaker 1: Because I'm only from there. I'm only you know, about
Speaker 1: fifteen miles from the California and the Pacific Coast Trail
Speaker 1: it's the road that I was going on up there
Speaker 1: with some of the finds I found up there actually
Speaker 1: is a drop off and pickup point for the Pacific
Speaker 1: Coast Trail, oh Wow, Rogue River National Forests, the Waima
Speaker 1: National Forest, Crater Lake National Park, plying evidence a Skylakes
Speaker 1: Wilderness excuse me, which is the backside of Crater Lake.
Speaker 1: If anybody knows, it's actually called Mount Masama is its
Speaker 1: proper name. But you know the lake they called Crater Lakes,
Speaker 1: so everybody knows it from by that of course, Rover
Speaker 1: National Holders and the Taie Unit in Douglas County, which
Speaker 1: is where Stand lives. As a matter of fact, my
Speaker 1: last sighting, which was my eleventh siding, I was spending
Speaker 1: the United Stands. We'd just done some filming that that
Speaker 1: previous day, and I was up at five am and
Speaker 1: I had to go. So I was camping in my
Speaker 1: vand and I stepped out and uh to get a
Speaker 1: little relief, And I look up across the backside of
Speaker 1: his property. There's a road back and then the neighbor's
Speaker 1: place on the other side of the road, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking in the neighbor's yard and there's a sasquatch watching me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you mind, it's kind of a private moment.
Speaker 1: And so there was my eleven siding right there at
Speaker 1: stands place. He's got footprints that they leave in his
Speaker 1: yard almost daily. It's just been something for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he just he still knew it just but he's
Speaker 1: still just amazed at everything that happens from day to day.
Speaker 1: And he says, you know, I got I got two choices,
Speaker 1: either run away from this and let it go, or
Speaker 1: embrace it. And he chose to embrace it. And it's
Speaker 1: the rest of the history.
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