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Speaker 1: I have no interest in proving they exist. I already

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know they do. You know, when I was face to

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face that pretty much submitted what I was looking at,

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And even though I didn't believe it, I had no choice.

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When you're two feet away from something that's about nine

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foot four four feet across the shoulders, three feet deep

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in the chest, and you're looking eye to eye with it,

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its eyes are illuminated, there was no light to illuminate

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them with. And it's a series in your mind pretty

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much guarantees that you're going to become a believer.

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Speaker 2: Like right now, this is Bigfoot Crossroads.

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Speaker 3: My name's Matt and joining me is William Morris. William

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is the founder of the Sasquatch puzzle Man. What a

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fitting name, William, Thanks for joining.

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Speaker 1: Me, Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: So we were talking a little bit earlier about some

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unfortunate news that seems to be spreading around about a

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man that seems to be your mentor, Tom Kintrell, someone

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who's very well known and well respected throughout the Bigfoot world.

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He's a come to the end of this journey and

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starting his new journey.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to talk about that? Absolutely well. I

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worked great yards. So when I got home this morning,

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I got the news that the Tom had passed. But

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I want to let you folks know he's still with us,

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but he's in and out. He's in the transition period.

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He made it through the night, but he's not expecting

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to make it through the day. Tom and I met

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when he was writing the book Sasquatch Face to Face.

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Somebody had posted a friend of mine had posted that

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another researcher that Tom was looking for stories of people

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that have had actual face to face adventures with the

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Sasquatch people. And well, mine was about as close as

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you get to face to face because I could reach

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out and touch him. That's how close we were. And that

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was in my second sighting. But Tom has been my teacher,

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my mentor. He's been there for when I thought I

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was going a little bananas because of some of the

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things I have witnessed in the presence of these majestic people.

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I call him force people because that's what they are.

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They are people. But Tom has held my hand through

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it all and guided me, and I just wish him

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God's speed that he goes quickly and easily with no pain.

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And his wish is to come back as a Sasquatch.

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So I hope to meaning before I transition as a Sasquatch.

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You know, that would be an amazing thing. That would be. Yeah,

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that's always been his wish is to become a Sasquatch

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in his next life. So we'll see. Should be interesting

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because they've told him absolutely, you know, I mean, he's

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you know. The whole thing is is when I met Tom,

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and I wrote chapter twenty six, which is my own

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chapter in Sasquatch Face to Pace. Thank god, that's been

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like seven years ago, I think somewhere around near six

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or seven years ago. And I never thought I would

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be doing what I'm doing right now. If there wasn't

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for Tom, you folks would not know anything about me.

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I've been having experiences with him since I was sixteen

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years old, and I wanted nothing to do with them.

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But things changed and later in life here and I

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was able to meet people like Cliff Perrikman, Ken Gerhart

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and you know, people in that top group that I

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was absolutely able to get my experiences off my chest

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and had somebody I could actually speak with that didn't

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look at me like a deer in the headlights and

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like I'm crazy and the risk has been history, you know,

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And I probably met with Tom, and about a year

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and a half after that, you know, after finally getting

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my story out to somebody, and actually it was Mark forself,

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our eight canyan expert that I actually first told my

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story other than anybody in my family, you know, is

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something that I kept secret for thirty eight years. And

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now I'm in a year forty five of experiencing these guys.

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And it is because of Tom that I decided this

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is something I'd like to do. So now I started

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as a researcher March twenty seventh, twenty twenty one, and

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it was actually to call BS on Tom, which I've

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told Tom many times. I said, you know, be honest

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with you. I was out there to call BS on

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you and your techniques and lo and behold. The first

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time I went out with the intention of seeing one,

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and one of them was the one that I saw

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when I was not when I was sixteen. It was

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a different one, but not soon about eight months later

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and I call him Big Sober. I asked for him

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to come and connect with me and they did. Wow.

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something to what Tom does. Instead of excuse me, call

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on him out and proven me wrong, I actually proved

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him right. And uh so I've been hooked ever since.

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I've had eleven sightings right now up to this point,

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and uh I hope to have a thousand more because

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I'm I'm very active in the field. If you go

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to the Sasquatch Puzzle on Facebook, uh you'll see the

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stuff that's on there. That's a new site. I just started.

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This started a team. Matter of fact, Ron Moorehead is

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one of my team members who has never been a

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part of the team in all the years. Believe it

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or not, he's going out with hundreds of different researchers,

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but he's never been part of a team. And uh

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so it's it's quite an honor to have him there.

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And it consists of me, my friend Stan Schumlick. Stan

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Shemlick worked in Hollywood, he worked in law enforcement, did

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a lot of things. Matter of fact, if you like

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Casper the Ghost I do you ever saw Casper was

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his baby? Oh wow? He designed Casper for the movie

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and did all the effects and everything and stands is

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an expert in lighting, shadowing, all that stuff. And one

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of the things that was great and what got him

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started in this was through to Todd Nice and they

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were in a conversation about infrasound. And you know, for

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him being in Hollywood and the things that he does,

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you know, he kind of has to be an expert

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in sound. And that's what brought him into the puzzle.

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And because Todd invited him out of the blue to

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the last to the last beach pot and that's where

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Stanton I'm at. Then I decided to teach him out

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for a day just for afterwards, you know, for a

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little lesson. I was going to teach him about tree

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breakstree structures, staying with a total skeptic, absolutely a total

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skeptic on the subject. Matter of fact, if you'd said

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anything to him before he got with me, he would

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have laughed, you know, if you told him your big

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Foot story and stuff, and you know it kind of

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mocked you. And you know he had he had no

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belief in it whatsoever. So I took him out for

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a class and we got together and was the first

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day we went out, well, he had two sightings. Wow,

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the second day. We went out. The very next day,

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he had two more sightings face to face with my

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juvenile JJ, and the rest is history. I started. I

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asked Tea months that, you know, they really like you.

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Four sightings of two days, they really like you, And

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so I invited him to start a team. And the

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Sasquatch Puzzle was born. So everything that's on that site

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is just since August early September. Wow, that's just the

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things that we found this year. There's five trackways in

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there that we found, and some of it I actually

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I found them for the most part, but we went

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and all casted them together here recently, and I've got

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so many prints sitting on my coffee table here there's

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no room for anything. Yeah, we've it's been quite an adventure.

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Speaker 3: How did this all start for you? You talked about having

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a sighting when you were just sixteen years old.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was sixteen years old. I lived in

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Myrtle Creek, Oregon, and I lived about three and a

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half miles from town out in the country. And my

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first experience it was during the hunting season of nineteen eighty,

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which is you know, between It was somewhere in October,

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either towards the end of October or early November, which

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is at the end of the season, and I was hunting.

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I had permission to hunt the property I was on

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out there, and I come over the hill right behind

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the place where I lived on the property is a

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big ranch called the s Diamond Ranch. And as I

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come over the hill, which is just fifty yards from

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my bedroom, and come down this little roadway that was there,

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I saw something move and I looked over and my

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brain did not want to believe I was looking at

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a sasquatch. My brain wanted to believe I was looking

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at a giant rabbit, like there was any such thing

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as that. Yeah, this giant rabbit is about seven and

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a half feet tall, and yeah, but I'm standing there

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with my hunting your right. I never raised it towards it,

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you know, because I've always learned, don't shoot in anything,

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and once you plan on eating, well, I didn't plan

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on eating a sasquash, but or a giant rabbit. So

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but that's where my whole adventure began. And I was

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at sixteen years old. Then my next sightings were back

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to back. Was about eight months later and last end

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of May early June nineteen eighty one. I was just

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getting out of school. For that I was in high

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school and I was actually my mother and I had

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gotten into an argument, and so I stormed off walked

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to town, which I often did. I walked everywhere. Even

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though I had actually owned fourteen cars at the time.

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I used to buy them, fix them, sell them. You

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know that I was quite I could talk in a

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little old lady out of her Faul's chief back. That

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was a great car salesman. Yeah. My next sighting was

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my face to face that is in Tom Cantrell's book

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Sasquashed Face to Face, and we started my adventure with Tom.

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But that one I was they had calmed down, decide

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I was going to head home. This is like eleven

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thirty at night, and I'm walking along. I get a

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mile out of town. I still got two and a

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half miles to get home, and I hear four footsteps

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and they were quite heavy. I was like, well, sounds

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like an elephant walking or a horse, or you know,

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a could be an elk. I don't know, you know.

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And the fourth step, I turned to my right and

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it was standing right there was a three about a

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three foot drop off a little over three feet off

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the edge of the roadway, and we were looking face

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to face and that was and I was close enough

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that I could reach out and touch him. Wow, I did,

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I didn't because I was terrified. I was absolutely terrified.

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I heard the phrase, and the phrase that sticks out

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in my mind is a bolt of fear. It's like

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something just hit you with lightning and you are frozen.

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I couldn't move, and all I can say is feet,

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don't fail me, now, you know. And it's like, Pete,

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you're failing me because I couldn't move and I'm just

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sitting there and we're staring at eye. It was probably

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for about two to two and a half minutes, and

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then he just turned and walked away. Never tried to

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hurt me or anything, never was aggressive. We just sat

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there and looked at each other and he took three

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steps off and I never heard another sound after that,

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I'm climbed in bed. My mom was at the other

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end of the place and she was in and I

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walked to my back window facing the hill that i'd

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walked over to saw the first one, and I saw

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the glowing eyes that I had seen when I was

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face to face, and it's like always right there. And

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he just squatting probably thirty feet from my bedroom window,

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up on the hillside, next to a tree, and apparently

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stayed there all night long. Well, I crawled in bed

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and got in a fetal position, and all I can

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say is Blue, don't kill us. Because I knew nothing

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about the Fast Watch people. Matter of fact, I wanted

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nothing to do with them at all. Even after these sightings.

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I wanted nothing to do with them. I was like,

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I know you're there, I know you're there. Just please

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leave me alone, you know, because who are you going

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to tell? First of all, this is back in nineteen eighties,

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you know, who are you going to tell? I go

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to the place to go report it. They're going to

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laugh me out of town because I do them all.

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Bill kind of went nuts, you know, And that's all there.

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and more people are accepting that, well, maybe there is

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something there and there's a lot of things out there

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we don't understand. But my mom that night on that

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third siding, when he was outside my window, this lasted

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all night long and just feeling watching, watching, watching, and

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she was actually frozen in her bed like she was

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being hit by infrasound. And she says, I couldn't move

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all night. And when she got up the next morning,

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I kind of rushed out there because the feeling kind

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of finally dissipated. And this is about six in the morning,

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and I'd heard my mom's stirring and she was finally

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able to move and get up, and I was like,

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how do you sleep? She says, I didn't And I

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said I didn't either. Let me tell you what happened.

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And then she understood that there was something there. Wow.

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Then about another week went by and her and I

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were in and out in the driveway and this is

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the fourth siding, and uh, my mom actually caught it

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because I told her about his eyes were green and

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they glowed, and it's it wasn't eye shine, they glow

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from within. You know, everybody talks about eyeshine. No eye

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shine is when you get a beer in the headlights, right,

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you know, there was no light. You know, when I

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was face to face with him, I was in a

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spot that was very dark, and the thing I'm looking

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at is glowing, and you know, I could just barely

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see the outline of what I was looking at. And

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probably because when I saw the first one, it's like, oh,

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you still don't believe. So he decided I'm going to

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make it really close to Paris so he can't deny

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what he saw. But we're standing in top of the

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driveway and it's dusk, but it's not dark yet, you know,

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it's just the sun that just crested it over the hills.

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And while I was sitting there talking with my mom,

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she she's like, oh, what that and drew my attention.

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That way as far across the field from the neighbor's place,

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across the way of their pasture, there's a tree line

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that goes across their pasture between the two properties, and

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it's about less than a quarter mile away, so you

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can still see pretty clear and just still very light out,

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and we watched him about every third step would turn

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back and look our direction as it was across the

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property that we were on, across the road and was

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going across the property the other side, but it was

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in the tree line, and I never seen anything move

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so smoothly through the forest. It's like there was no

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trees on the ground, no nothing in the way. They

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just glided. And we watched him across the through the

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tree line and across and then we washed him walk

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up the mountain on the other side, and you know,

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about every three steps he'd look back directly at it.

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And I felt a little different this time when I

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saw him. I wasn't as terrified, and it was kind

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of like they were saying goodbye. Yeah, you know, like, well,

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we'll see in thirty eight years. I got to say,

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they're pretty patient. But yeah, we watched him walk over

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the mountain. And then I was bodybuilding and I ran

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every day getting in shape and staying in shape, and

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I was all over those mountains. I used to matter

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of fact, there was a mountain I used to run

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to the top. I started out in a walk to

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get to the top, and I'd have to stop thirty

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times before I got there. Then I got to where

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I could walk and jog and walk and jog till

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you know, I'd get to the top of the mountain

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and then I got to where I could outrun my

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dog to the top of the mountain. Wow. Yeah, And

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so I got in some really good shape, especially running uphill,

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you know, because it was over a mile uphill, and

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it was not exactly it went to the back of

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my uncle's property, and I could not the way he

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moved and got over that mountain. That only took oh gosh,

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I'd have to say it was only about six or

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seven minutes. If I had done the same path, it

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probably would have taken me at least thirty to forty

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five minutes. Jeez. Yeah. So I was quite impressed. And

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then I just tried to forget about all that stuff

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after that for thirty eight years, just kept that inside.

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Even my mother and I didn't discuss it much, you know,

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it was just more like, you know, okay, we have

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a shared experience together. A matter of fact, we have

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a couple of them together. And because the first time,

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you know, when I told her, I said, you know,

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I didn't quite figure she believed me. Yeah, But after

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you know, she saw it for herself, it was a

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whole different story.

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Speaker 3: Do you recall anything previous to those events where maybe

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they were already around and you just didn't realize it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know about anything about tree knocks,

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structures anything like that, you know, a matter of fact,

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they were completely off my radar. We didn't have things

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like not finding Bigfoot. Sorry, Cliff, I love you, but

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you know, you know, to kind of help us kind

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of get into the mode of finding different things, which

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you know, they didn't even go into depth on a

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lot of those things, right, you know, but you know

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I learned a lot of it by just getting out

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there and doing and finding things going and what we

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do as a team especially is look for what doesn't belong.

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You know, what is what am I looking at? You know,

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I probably walked past a thousand structures and tree brakes

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and everything and never knew or even had any kind

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of understanding that there could have been something that built

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that It wasn't natural, happened naturally. Now I can't unsee

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it wherever I go, it doesn't matter. I've been find

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structures that have found structures in Canada, in Washington State

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with Tom Cantrell. A matter of fact, first time Tom

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and I went out, we went up to barber Shops

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area where she does one of her camps off the

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Green River, and I found footprints that were fresh tree

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breaks and some tree weaves and stuff right there. And

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what Tom was hoping I would see what He absolutely

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took me to. This one spot which is just above

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her camp, is just a short little road. It's blocked off.

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Is there's a tree, an arch tree. It's actually two trees,

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one from each side of the creek weave together in

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a large arch, which he did you see that? I said, yeah,

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but I got cooler stuff in that in my area

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as Tom, Wait, did you see my pictures? Let's put

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it this way. I have over fourteen thousand pictures on

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my hard drive of the past five years of me

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doing my research. Wow, just tree breaks, structures, tree twists.

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And you know, if we were live on video right here,

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I could show you the prints that I've found, which

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you've seen on my site tree breaks. I don't know

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if you got to see the really cool tree breaks

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that's got like five twists in it, I don't think. So. Yeah,

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there's a short little video on there. So anybody that

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goes there, school down there is got to understand that

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this is only this site isn't that old. It's very recent,

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Like I said, somewhere around the last of August or

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September is when I started the site, and all that

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stuff that's on there is everything from that point on,

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So it's just the last you know, six months or

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so or less.

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Speaker 3: How did you find that?

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Speaker 1: I just travel the roots. And the whole thing is

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is once you learn what you're looking at, you can

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unsee it. You can be going down the freeway at

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eighty miles an hour in spot a tree structure and

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be hitting the brakes going, well, I got to go

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check this out. It's that simple. Once you get the

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mindset and what you're doing and what you're looking for,

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it's actually everywhere. That's what people don't understand. They're everywhere.

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They're not just in one localized area. They're not just

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in little spaces here and there, but everywhere I go.

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A matter of fact, let me, I wrote down here

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just this last year. This is just this is just

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in the past year since July. Okay, rain Er, Oregon.

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That was Beachfoot. When I got to Beachfoot, I found

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my camp. I told Todd which one I wanted long

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before I got there, before the season started, and so

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I went down found my spot. Then I went from

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there up to pavilion where Todd was to check in

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and do everything for Beach Book. When I came back,

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there's a rock stack sitting at my camp that wasn't

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there when I got there. So just in the time

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that I went from the camp and it's probably was

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probably six hundred yards up to the pavilion, check in,

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get my hat, get all my beach foot goodies, and

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head back to camp. There's a rock stack there that

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happened in that period of time, just kind of like

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a welcome here. But Rainier was the first spot. Then

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I went from Rainier, I took Marie Dumont and her

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partner Bob, and a couple of the boys from the

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Red Dirt Cryptids in your neighborhood, Oh, mister h was

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Brian Treillah, and we all went out. I took them

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all out because Rae went rain and I have been

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friends and been talking for a long time and and

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she said, well, can you take us on an adventure

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after Beach Book because we're going to stay weak. I'ment, oh, absolutely,

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you know I will. So I took him out to

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Mount Hood Wilderness by near Trillium Lake. We were about

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a mile a little over a mile from Trillium Lake,

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and uh, I say, to camp because you know, this

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was an adventure I was giving to them. That was

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my gift to them. And they went out. They found footprints,

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they found tree twist and some little oddities and stuff

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through there, and uh the first night there wasn't much

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going on. But the second night, Bob and I were

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sitting up by the fire everybody else had go into bed,

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and uh, he thought he heard a dog barking, but

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it didn't sound quite like a dog. And he looked

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at me and he says, you hear that. I said, no,

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I did I miss that? And then I caught the

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next one. I went interesting. So we walked over this

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area on the other side of where I was camping

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to get a clearer listen of it. And what we

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heard was like that, and there was five vocalizations like that.

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I said, I looked at him. That ain't no dog.

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I said, that's a big foot sasquatch vocalization. And we

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heard tree knocks all the way back. And then things

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kind of settled down for a while, and uh, so

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he decided he's going to bed because we hadn't heard anything. Well, actually,

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in between there, we heard a nine hundred pound bullfrog.

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Because sasquatches like to mimic things, sure, and it sounded

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like a bullfrog, but it wasn't a bullfrog. And when

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it went off, Bob looks at me and I looked

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at him, and he said, gotta sound like a bullfrog.

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But that wasn't a bullfrog. It was a bad imitation.

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I said, yeah, it's a nine hundred pound bullfrog. We

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started laughing, and it's like probably seventy five feet from us,

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and so he decides to go to bed. After everything

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kind of settled down, I go laying my chant. Next

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thing I know, there's tapping. I had a cast iron

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pan out because I just bet everybody dinner, made a

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nice spaghetti dinner for them all, and I'm laying there

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and all of a sudden I heard a little shuffle outside.

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I'm like, oh, probably raccoon, you know, coming up because

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we're next to this little marshy area. And next thing

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I know is there's this tapping on my cast iron pan,

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and I consistent tapping, tapped for like thirteen times, and

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I was like, oh, it takes hands and nail or

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her fingers. Something do to with tapping like that. So

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I was like, okay, I got a visitor and he's

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right outside my tent, and so I started a conversation

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with him. You know, I was laying out. I was

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actually playing Soda Crush on my phone. So as soon

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as I set that down and everything got the light down,

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you know, and it all stopped. So I was like, okay,

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I waited a few minutes, Okay, nothing, So I started

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playing my game again. It lights up my tent, you know,

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because of my phone coming on and tap tap tap

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tap tap tap tap tap tap again. So I'm like

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to shut my phone down, get it dark, you know,

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And I started talking with him, start a conversation with him.

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And this let went on for half an hour, and

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this little thing back and forth with me and this visitor,

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which I pretty much have to assuming was a sasquatch.

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And the third time it happened, I'm playing my game again.

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I was like, okay, I'm playing my game. Do you

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mind if I play my game? And I guess they

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got frustrated, and when he went off, then I heard

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something hit my tent. It was something really light, and

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so I told Marie involved and everybody when we all

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got up the next morning, I said, yeah, I said,

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after all this, I said, something hit my tent. But

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it was really light, you know, and I'm out in

474
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,319
an area where there's no trees, you know, I'm right

475
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,359
at the end of the roadway and there's nothing around

476
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,400
me that could you know, hit my tent. You know,

477
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480
if it fell out of a tree, you know, it

478
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:16,279
would have to jump about you know, forty yards or so. Yeah,

479
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,359
And Marie and I explored around the back of my

480
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,640
tent and I found this crushed daisy and I picked

481
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,319
it up and I went, oh, that's interesting, I wonder

482
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,240
and I looked at Marie and I threw it up

483
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:32,000
on the top of my tent. That's the sound, I said. Oh,

484
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:38,440
Sasquatch gave me a flour as he was partying. So

485
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,279
I have that daisy still. I have every gift they

486
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,240
ever gave me. I've got little hearts, set of stone

487
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,960
and stones that and the whole thing is is the

488
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,720
stones that I have a very large quartz crystal stone

489
00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:01,559
that was gifted to me from my Sasquash group. And

490
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:06,319
then I've seen others post the same exact shape of stone. Actually,

491
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:11,319
uh Senate posted one and I went, Actually, I got

492
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:13,599
the same exact shaped stone, and I said, I know

493
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,039
a few other people that have the same exact shaped

494
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:20,079
stone and which kind of looks like them their head

495
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,200
in a side profile view, you know, with the sagittal

496
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,400
crest in the whole nine yards, but you can see

497
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,440
the nose, the eyes, you know, in the whole nine

498
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,319
yards that when you turn the stone sideways. I went,

499
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:37,240
that's pretty darn interesting that several of us have been

500
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,680
gifted something like that. So, but the next place I

501
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,759
went to after Mount Hood, well not right after Mount

502
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:49,400
The next thing I went to was a Sasquash summerfest

503
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,559
and Oakridge, Oregon, with Priscilla Roseman in the Rose and

504
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,519
Ron and I have become really good friends. In Priscilla

505
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:01,319
and I have been really good friends. And I was

506
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,039
sitting having coffee. My kids were on their way up

507
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,559
because it was the first camping trip. If my kids

508
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:07,920
are coming up and I get to a camp a

509
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,440
night with my grandkids and there my grandkids were really

510
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,680
interested in sasquatch. But I'm sitting there in the morning,

511
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:18,279
looking across the Wilamotte River and just enjoying my coffee

512
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,920
and getting myself awake and then out between two trees

513
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:30,680
across the river, my juvenile pops up. They followed me everywhere. Wow.

514
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,319
So and I have proof of that. There was something

515
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:39,079
that happened at Oakridge the year before with doctor Arianna Love.

516
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,680
She's one of the actually top naturropathic doctors in the world,

517
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400
and I'd met her there and there was a whole thing.

518
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,680
I did interviews, which Aeremiah Byron on it. Matter of fact,

519
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,319
to Jeremiah, I kind of helped him facilitate his per

520
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:02,599
sasquatch sighting on that weekend. So it's there was actually

521
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,240
five sightings generated and most of them were misas questions

522
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,680
that followed me up by the description that they gave me.

523
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,640
Then Uh I went to uh let us say, I've

524
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,519
been to uh Drew, Oregon, which is where my partner

525
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,799
or no true is where my research area is. It's

526
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,000
near Tiller, Oregon. It's pretty much as the Rogue Unquad divide,

527
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:31,279
so it's basically wilderness area and that's where I've had

528
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,720
all my stuff and that's where I started with my

529
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:38,880
fist siding calling Tom out and I had my sighting there.

530
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,640
I have stands, had five sidings there so far. Like

531
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,200
I said, they really like him. The last one was

532
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,799
that we were we had just filmed one of our

533
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,079
episodes for YouTube called Twist to Tuesday, and what he

534
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,720
did is he put it in a timeline on that

535
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,160
so you can check a timeline on it as to

536
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:09,720
every discovery we made that day, and people like Ron

537
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,559
that told us that, you know, my old partner al

538
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Berry would have looked at you guys and said, you're

539
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:19,039
full of it, that you can't find all this stuff.

540
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:23,160
So that's what inspired stand to when he did this

541
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,480
video to put timeline stamps on everything we found that day,

542
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,240
so you can see, well, one's like five minutes from

543
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,359
the other one, the other one was like ten minutes away,

544
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,240
the other one's about twenty minutes away, the other one

545
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:34,599
is another five minutes and this and so on and

546
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,599
so on and so on in only being out for

547
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,880
five hours. And this is my research. These are things

548
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,680
I hadn't even discovered yet that we're there. So it's

549
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:48,440
nice to have an extra pair of eyes, yeah, you know,

550
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:52,079
to find this stuff. So you know, because there's another

551
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,480
perspective I.

552
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,559
Speaker 3: Wanted to ask you. You mentioned the area being where

553
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,640
you went to originally Tom out on bs M.

554
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,759
Speaker 1: That's the one and Drew what happened?

555
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,359
Speaker 3: What did you do?

556
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: Exactly? And you know, it's what Tom calls in his books.

557
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,519
That was the whole thing is. You know, Tom wasn't

558
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:15,880
really showing me a lot of stuff. We're talking a

559
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,039
lot of stuff, but you know, we had lots of

560
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,360
conversations back and forth. But he has this thing called

561
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:26,480
armchair squatching, and this is his thing. That's where you

562
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,760
just kind of pack a lunch, take a book with you,

563
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,800
take a share, whatever you know, and you just go

564
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,760
out in the woods and just get one with the woods,

565
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,119
listen to all the sounds of the woods, everything that's

566
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,199
happening out there, and try to connect with them. And

567
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,639
so I get out there and this is what I'm

568
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,800
calling bs AUDI. And a matter of fact, there was

569
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,920
another guy that was up in the area and I'd

570
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840
stopped to talk to him because I thought maybe he

571
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,880
was lost or something. He said, I'm just looking for

572
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,760
places to write my quad And my intention was the

573
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,719
whole thing started the a week earlier. Actually, So what

574
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Tom had said in a podcast that they connect with

575
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,440
you mentally and that connection can last for life. And

576
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,400
I'm like, okay, sure. Now I spent an entire week

577
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,119
thinking going, okay, I'm going to really try this out.

578
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:24,079
I'm going to try to project and connect with them

579
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:30,880
somehow in my mind and consciously that okay, I want

580
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,199
to meet you. And I would review the sightings I had,

581
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,480
like my face to pace and the one where he's

582
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:40,920
behind my place, and the one that we watched it

583
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,800
across the field. Those were all three of the same

584
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,880
sasquatch and I call him big Silber now, but then

585
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,679
he was blacker than black. It is like looking into

586
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,440
a black hole because they just absorbed the light. It's

587
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,199
just a It's really a strange thing to see. And

588
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,119
my juvenile is the same way, just blacker than black,

589
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:03,159
and just it's like a light vacuum, no reflection to

590
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,239
the hair or anything. It doesn't shine, you know, It's

591
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,679
just it's just a black void. And so I decided, okay,

592
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,800
I'm going to go up there. So on my way up,

593
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,880
I got to experience my first mind speak, which kind

594
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,119
of freaked me out a little bit. I didn't know

595
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:23,760
anything about it. I was figuring, okay, this is telepathy.

596
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,079
Everybody calls it mine speak, which I didn't know until

597
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,760
you know, after this happened. But I was getting ready

598
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,199
to turn off on the main highway and I still

599
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,480
have another fifteen miles to drive. But as I'm turning off,

600
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,679
I hear the booming voice in my head, We're not

601
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,400
going to meet you where you want to meet, Because

602
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,840
I spent the whole week of rolling over everything in

603
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,880
my mind that I wanted to meet that particular Sasquatch

604
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,519
and that and where to meet. There's a place that

605
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:57,239
I've hunted. I've been up there since God, since I

606
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,639
was sixteen seventeen years old. I've gone. I know every

607
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,280
inch of the mountain. I walked every inch of it.

608
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,480
And there's a space, a prairie area that I was

609
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,440
concentrating on and picturing in my mind, you know, because

610
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:12,039
like I say, I know every square inch of this

611
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:16,079
mountain and this is where I want to meet you guys.

612
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,039
But as I turned onto that highway, that big booming

613
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:21,760
voice came out said We're not going to meet where

614
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,440
you wanted to meet. And I'm looking all over my friend,

615
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,000
going where the hell did that come from? Because it

616
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,360
kind of it kind of freaked me out. I was

617
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,159
not expecting that it's nothing that's everything never happened to

618
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:38,400
me before. Or I just thought, okay, Bill, calm down,

619
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,679
you're starting to lose it. Something very strange is going

620
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,480
on here, and so, you know, I just kind of

621
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,159
put it in the back of my mind. But when

622
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,159
I got up there after I talked to this gentleman,

623
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,519
you know, I drove up as far as I could,

624
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,880
and I hit a wall of snow, you know, about

625
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,360
five feet deep and uh because which means at the

626
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000
top there's it was probably fifteen feet deep. So the

627
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:06,159
road didn't go through yet things hadn't melted off because

628
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,320
it goes all the way up over five thousand feet

629
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,679
on this mountain where I'm at, and there's another area

630
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,159
called that I called the truck. I dubbed it's a

631
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:20,840
triangle marsh because it's a triangle shape little marsh, and

632
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,400
I was like, well, okay, this looks like the place.

633
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,519
The other guy caught up with me, and so we

634
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:28,840
chatted up for a little bit and stuff, and then

635
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,840
he took off. But at the time he and I

636
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,199
were chatting, there was another truck that flew by, and

637
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,039
we're laughing as he goes by and go out, he'll

638
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,719
be back in a minute. Sure enough he's turned around

639
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,400
headed back the other way. Yep, you're not getting through.

640
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,679
So we finished our conversation. I well, I guess this

641
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,280
isn't a good place as any So I grab my

642
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480
lunch because I'm doing everything that Tom instructed me to do.

643
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,880
And another thing that he instructed me to do is

644
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,920
don't pay attention to him when they're there. You know

645
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,760
they're there. You can look over once in a while,

646
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,000
you know, you said, But the more you ignore them,

647
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,159
the longer your sighting will be. My signing lasted forty

648
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:11,719
five minutes. Wow that day. Oh well, I've had longer ones.

649
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,880
But so I grabbed my lunch. I went down through

650
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,119
the woods and stuff, and I'm looking around. Okay, worre

651
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,320
it's a good spot. Well, you know, I want to

652
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,000
look out over the marsh, so I have a good

653
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,360
view of the area and everything. And there's this Douglas

654
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,599
spur root that comes out. The thing's geez, probably i'd

655
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:35,480
say ten inches in diameter that came out into like

656
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:37,880
a little bench. I went, oh, this is perfect. I

657
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,719
can sit here, I can look out over the field.

658
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,760
And guess what book I brought with me, sasquatch face

659
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,239
to Face by Tom Cantrell. I hadn't completely read it yet,

660
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,159
so I pay, oh, well, this is a good opportunity

661
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:52,360
to read it while I'm out there. So I sat

662
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,960
down and relaxed for a minute or so, went yeah,

663
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,880
this is a good spot. Kick back on that little bench.

664
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,639
And the first thing in my head is and I

665
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:05,480
thought this. I didn't say it out loud. I just

666
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:09,199
thought it, Okay, give me a tree knock. Damn it wasn't.

667
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,280
Just half a second later I got a tree knock,

668
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,159
and it was seemed like it was probably about a

669
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:20,880
quarter mile away to my southwest. Okay, maybe that was

670
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,440
an anomaly. So I started reading a book. I'm relaxing there.

671
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,599
Then the next thing I know, I hear a whistle

672
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:33,480
to the south of me, and then I hear another

673
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,800
one to the west of me. Then I heard one

674
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,480
directly to the north of me, behind me on the hillside,

675
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:44,039
and uh, it was like a tactical whistle, you know,

676
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:47,199
them telling each other, Okay, I'm here, i'm here, I'm here.

677
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,079
You know, they've got me surrounded on three sides. But

678
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,719
they left aside to my vehicle open. So if I

679
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,719
wanted to make a mark, if they wanted to march

680
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,840
me out of there. They had no problem doing that,

681
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,119
you know, they could just direct me back towards the vehicle.

682
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:02,960
So here the hell out of me. But by this

683
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,199
time I've already lost my pharaoh, you know. And what

684
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,239
did that was a podcast I've seen that guy said

685
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,280
they never tried to hurt me. And I thought about

686
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,079
it and perseverated on that, which is, you know, overthinking

687
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,719
about it. And I went, you know what, I had

688
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,400
four sightings. Every time there was no aggression. They never

689
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,199
tried to hurt me. Why am I so terrified? And

690
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,400
I dropped the fear And that's what made all the

691
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,199
difference in the world. So I'm sitting on that bench.

692
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:38,800
The whistles went on, and I'm like, okay, and I

693
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,000
look up and I've looked out field and there's wait

694
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,400
a minute, what is that. I see this sill relooking

695
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,159
bush there, and I'm going, now, I know there's no

696
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:54,199
bush there? What am I looking at? And I got over,

697
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,960
I got up, stood up and looked at it about

698
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,280
three different times. By the third time, I went, oh,

699
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:03,280
you're here. Is hairy turned silver? You know it still

700
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,039
has black. You can see both colors it's like the

701
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,679
ends were silver and the inner part closest to his

702
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,599
body were still black, and which would make sense because

703
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,679
we're both probably he's probably been older than me, probably

704
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:22,679
at least ten or fifteen years, if not more. So

705
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,880
it made sense to me, Well, you know the hair

706
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,760
is going to change color. You know, their's is like

707
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,159
cars or they've reported every color that you could, you

708
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:37,559
know the humans have of the sasquatches. So I thought, okay, well,

709
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:41,920
what he was kind of sitting on his heels with

710
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840
his knuckles dragtly in front of him. And one of

711
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,320
the questions I had was how do they hide in

712
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,519
plain sight and not be seen? Well, he's showing me,

713
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:55,480
and he showed me. He had his knuckles to the

714
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,280
ground in front of him and his head down so

715
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,199
you couldn't see his eyes, and he just looked like

716
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,719
a bush. If I'd been out there walking, I could

717
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,840
have come within feet of him still wouldn't have recognize

718
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,440
that there's a sassoure sitting there. So that kind of

719
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,159
amazed me. Yeah, I went, oh, I understand, now, okay,

720
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,000
this is how you that's where these people are going. Yeah,

721
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440
I was watching a tree stump and it got up

722
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,840
and walked away. I understand that, you know, because they

723
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,800
consider for hours like a statue. He never moved one

724
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,960
single hair, you know. That's in the forty five minutes

725
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,920
he was sitting there. But once I recognized it was him,

726
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,280
I sat down, well, okay, And next thing I know,

727
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:42,800
directly to my west was three super fast tree knocks.

728
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,079
I mean it was like machine gun knocks. And I

729
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,000
was like, whoa. I should have been able to see

730
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,360
what was knocking. It was that close, you know, because

731
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,960
I can see him and through the woods, and I

732
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,840
didn't see it. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. So the

733
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,480
next time, you know, because I'm still trying to ignore him,

734
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,199
were there, you know, I'd get up every few minutes

735
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:05,960
to stretch my back and stand up and kind of

736
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,880
look over him. He's still there. And the next time

737
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,239
I got up, I looked over and his juvenile was

738
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,440
standing next to him. And I had to call Tom

739
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,760
after that because I'd never seen a juvenile. I never

740
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:27,320
even thought about a juvenile, I said Tom. I thought

741
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,920
it'd be bigger. He's like, well, you know, they got

742
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,559
to start out small. You know, he's a kid, you know.

743
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,159
Estimating me was probably about eight years old in sund

744
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,320
squash years, in which Tom agreed, you know, that's about

745
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,760
the age he would have been. Right now, he's right

746
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,960
around preteen or right just turned teenager, and he's filling out.

747
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,840
He's taller than I am, but at the time, it's

748
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,280
about five foot tall, standing next to his head on

749
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,400
his shoulder, and got that little rock back and forth,

750
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,880
you know, left or right, and and uh I look

751
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:09,360
up and I'm like, wow, sky hmm, that's a juvenile. Okay,

752
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:14,320
looks like a stick figure with hair because of hair

753
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,519
rut off the bottom of his arms about six inches,

754
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,679
you know. And and I swear you know, if you

755
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,199
ever see these these kids that live in their parents'

756
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:25,239
basement and the only thing they've ever lifted was a

757
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,559
video game controller, you know, their arms are like the

758
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,599
size of a pencil. And right, you know, that's what

759
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:34,840
he looked like, except you had hair. And I'm like,

760
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,920
oh wow. You know, I'm being introduced to the juvenile.

761
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,119
And that's the one I interact with most, is the juvenile.

762
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,199
And the citing lasted for forty five minutes, So after

763
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,239
it was over, I walked up th Road because I

764
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,039
knew the juvenile came from the west. So I walked

765
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:53,519
up the road to go look for Prince and I

766
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,800
found three prints and uh, you know, not a dig step.

767
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,320
The first step from foot the foot heel to heel

768
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:05,280
was a thirty two inch step. The next one was

769
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,239
thirty four inch and the next one was thirty four inches,

770
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,840
so I could see where he came from and you know,

771
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,119
and then hit it out to where you know, he

772
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,039
ended up with the other side of the marsh there,

773
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,119
which was only about it's about seventy five eighty yards

774
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:25,360
away and the rest is history. I mean, I was hooked.

775
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,920
I'm like, Wow, Tom's stuff really worked. It's what he

776
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,599
calls armchair squatching, but it works. And this is what

777
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,760
I'm going to be teaching people on the puzzle is

778
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:40,039
what happens is if you had a siding, they've already

779
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,400
chosen you. And that's the whole thing is. I don't

780
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,039
think she reveals themselves to people unless they choose them,

781
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,199
you know, and that's when they kind of show themselves

782
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,400
and they're kind of fishing poor a reaction like they

783
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,320
did with me when I was sixteen and seventeen, and

784
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,679
you know, my reaction was terror, which it is with

785
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,960
most people. And what I understand about that now is

786
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,079
that it's your own perception. You know. I was raised

787
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:09,280
with monster movies and everything. I couldn't wait to get

788
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,800
home from school because they were monster movies on. You know.

789
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,280
It was there were a show that was on and

790
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,079
they showed monster movies, you know, at a particular time.

791
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,440
And uh, you know, I watched all the utterly mins

792
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,800
and things growing up. And I'm not sure about your age,

793
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,000
but you know, we had a lot of monster shows

794
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:29,679
when I was growing up, for sure. And you know,

795
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
that's what gives me is everybody calls them, you know,

796
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,440
a monster, and it's like they're actually far from it.

797
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,079
They're so much like us, it's amazing. But they're not us,

798
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,440
you know, they think differently, but they can communicate with

799
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:46,000
you in any way they wish. They can do it

800
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:51,840
through mental telepathy, mind speak, they can do it with thoughts.

801
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:57,920
Because I'm constantly connected to them. They know everything that

802
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,960
I'm doing. And anytime they visit me in my house

803
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,159
and I live in town. They come into my house,

804
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:07,320
they moved things around to let me know they were there.

805
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,000
They deep gifts and I never thought that'd be happening either,

806
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:14,599
and Tom never mentioned that part. I actually learned that

807
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,760
from ar Le Collette Williams. You know that, you know,

808
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,480
because they're always leaving her gifts, and I have other

809
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,719
friends that they lead gifts. They've been into their car,

810
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:30,199
they've taken stolen their snacks. That little turn stole my sacks. Uh,

811
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,679
my son. Even in California, we found a trackway up here.

812
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,840
I had taken squashing them for the first time, and

813
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,599
we found a trackway over four hundred frants in the snow.

814
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:42,920
It was my entire Sasquatch family. It was from the

815
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:46,360
smallest one, which I call Toddles because it's toddler. I

816
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,760
still haven't met that one yet. I met the alpha

817
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,880
female and the juvenile, and I've known the other one

818
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,920
for you know, the whole forty five years. So it's uh.

819
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
And they've always been there whenever I'm out hunting in

820
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,440
the woods everything, even though I didn't want nothing to

821
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,719
do with them. I've heard them chatting in the woods

822
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,880
when I know there's nobody else out there, tree knocks,

823
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,639
I've had things tossed across my path many many times,

824
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:15,719
and you know, it's the time I never understood the

825
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,400
tree bricks, but I didn't know the tree knocks were them,

826
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,679
you know. I figured that out with before finding Big

827
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,039
Put and Expedition Big Put and all this stuff. I

828
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,599
already knew that that was them. And I hear that

829
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,440
and has heard it my entire life. Everywhere I go

830
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:37,039
in the woods, I get tree knocks. So it's quite amazing.

831
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:41,519
And I took a video recently called on my YouTube,

832
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,559
When and How I Became a Sasquatch Researcher, which tells

833
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,119
this particular story. While I was filming it, I was

834
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:53,199
out there solo. My partner now is going through it

835
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,960
right now and re edited in and what he's doing

836
00:49:56,039 --> 00:50:00,000
is taking out my ms. Dell, you got too many

837
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:03,559
ums there with a pause, and I'm cutting that stuff out,

838
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,719
you know. He said, I'm trying to make you look intelligent.

839
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,079
I said, you know what, I'm watching the Senate hearings

840
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:12,639
and these senators out there doing the same thing. I said,

841
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,199
you know why we do it. It's because we're collecting

842
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,639
our thoughts, right So the next thing we're going to say,

843
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,760
you know, So I take this video and it ended

844
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,920
up a two parter. And the weird part is is

845
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,639
he's finding what is most likely infrasound. While I was

846
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,400
videotaping this, there was no wind, and he's looking at

847
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,280
the leaves behind me, going, well, it was windy you.

848
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,320
I said, do you hear wind on the microphone? He

849
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,519
said no, absolutely none. I said, there was no wind

850
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:44,079
at that time. The leaves behind me were vibrating. Oh wow.

851
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:48,239
My recorder actually shut off at one point towards the end.

852
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,639
That's why it ended up a two parter. And as

853
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,000
soon as it came back on, it should not have

854
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,559
come back on. Once you turn this thing, shut this

855
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:59,559
thing down, it stops period. You know, you have to

856
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,119
physically restarted and everything. And I didn't restart it. It

857
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,280
came on automatically, and just after it came back on,

858
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,400
I heard a tree knock. You know, I had no

859
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,400
idea I was getting hit with infrasound or anything else.

860
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,480
But he's working on getting through this one because there's

861
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:17,519
more stuff he's finding as far as the infrasound goes

862
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:21,480
and the sound anomalies. So we'll be uh reposting a

863
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,840
newer version of that that's been edited for this to

864
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,159
show the sound bars and everything when the sound went

865
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,840
crazy and he only found it because he was rewinding

866
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,760
and he watched the the sound bars go bananas. He's like,

867
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,960
what was that? And he started playing it back and forth,

868
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:42,079
going there's something here and it's inaudible. You can't it's

869
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:45,719
blow our hearing. And that's when he discovered, well, I've

870
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,800
got infrosound on that. So that's what he's working on

871
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,920
right now as well, and that should be out here shortly.

872
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,679
But I did that one several months ago, and that

873
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,360
was when I first started the puzzle because I wanted

874
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,440
people know this is you know where my restart started.

875
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:09,119
Speaker 3: Do you have any answers? So, like, obviously you're talking

876
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:15,000
about things that many people have repeated and said in

877
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:19,119
the past. You know, there's people out there experiencing these

878
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,800
things that have no explanation.

879
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: We don't.

880
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:26,039
Speaker 3: I mean, how do they do the things they do?

881
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,519
How do they go from this spot in Oregon to

882
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,360
your house to California?

883
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,119
Speaker 1: Well they now they go all the way down. My

884
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:41,280
son lives just out of the Mahabi Desert in Landers, California.

885
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:46,000
Stan lives in Winston, or not Winston, but ten mile, Oregon,

886
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,320
which from here is right around ninety five miles from

887
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,039
my driveway. Beach Foot was in Rainier, Oregon, way up

888
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:01,519
towards the Oregon border, across from Vancouver, know than oak Ridge.

889
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:04,840
They followed me everywhere and they kind of act as

890
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,159
my bodyguard. But as far as answers go, man, every

891
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,920
time we get an answered a question answered, we have

892
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,119
a thousand more. Yeah. That's just the way this is it.

893
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:19,400
It is a bottomless rabbit hole. And that's the first

894
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,519
thing I told Stan the first day I took him out.

895
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:24,119
I looked at him, I said, are you ready for this?

896
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,199
And so yeah, yeah, I said, this is a very

897
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,320
cheap rabbit hole that really has no bottom. Oh, I've

898
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:39,360
been down rabbit holes before. Well oh boy, you said, yeah,

899
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,760
he's got a whole different opinion of the ex now

900
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:44,239
he's like, yeah, he said. The amazing part is that

901
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,960
once one questions answered, I got a thousand more. I said, exactly.

902
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:52,039
I said, this is endless, and it's going to be endless,

903
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,920
you know, as long as we do this for the

904
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,119
rest of our lives. But that's the reason I started

905
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:00,639
the Sasquatch puzzle. It's so hopefully people that work with

906
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,440
us to everybody has a piece of the puzzle. And

907
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,239
I've been saying this for years, and that's where the

908
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,519
name comes from. I've always said everybody has a piece

909
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,840
of this puzzle, and if we all start to communicate together,

910
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:17,360
we can put it into a bigger picture where we

911
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,519
can better understand them and maybe, you know, form better

912
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,039
relationships with them. And you know, because there aren't a

913
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,679
lot of people that have the type of relationship I have,

914
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:30,679
Tom had Arla has, you know, and other people have

915
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,599
with them. There aren't a lot of people out there

916
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,760
that are, but they don't talk about it. You know,

917
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,599
they help them on their property, They you know, been

918
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:42,280
interacting with them a long time, but they don't tell anybody.

919
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,159
You know. There's so many people out of there about

920
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,480
for probably every one siding, there's at least ten that

921
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,920
don't get reported, right or more. I would have to

922
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,840
say more than ten. I would be probably more of

923
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,480
the lines of twenty one in twenty is probably reported.

924
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,000
And who fort it to BFRO? Let me tell you

925
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:11,239
about this. The BFRO has over sixty six thousand sightings registered.

926
00:55:11,679 --> 00:55:15,920
What do they let us see about six thousand? That's it?

927
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:19,719
What are they hiding and why are they doing that?

928
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,320
I think a lot of it is one thing you

929
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,639
don't find in their sight and in their sightings is

930
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:27,960
the wu part. They don't believe in any of that.

931
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:31,639
And the only way you get introduced to that part is,

932
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,320
first of all, if they're comfortable with you, they show

933
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:40,519
you more things, things that they can do. Why there's

934
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:44,199
two separate groups, It's ridiculous, it really is, you know.

935
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:46,199
And I used to be the same way. I was,

936
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,639
flesh and blood all the way. King Gerhart will tell

937
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:51,440
you he's like, no, no, Bill. And I s out

938
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,280
there and picked apart these other people's little things that

939
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,199
the conferences and stuff. We're laughing out and go, yeah,

940
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,559
other these guys are nuts, you know. L it happening

941
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:08,639
to me and I'm like, you know, just grabbing the throws.

942
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:10,639
That's when I started calling Tom, Tom. I think I'm

943
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:13,760
going banana, I said, you know, Tom, for three months,

944
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,480
I've been hearing my name called in the woods by

945
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,039
a woman. And this led up to my six siding,

946
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:24,480
which lasted an hour and a half. I actually sat there,

947
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,880
played my guitar to him and chatted with him. And

948
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,440
I actually have a photograph, actually two photographs from that day,

949
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,039
my Sasquatch female and her juvenile my little buddy JJ,

950
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:41,400
but I haven't had That was taken on a crappy

951
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,320
camera on my phone, my last phone, which was really

952
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,719
not a top of the line phone. But it is

953
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,159
actually fairly crisp and clear. And uh, I've got a

954
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:53,480
couple of people that are going to work on enhancing

955
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:57,159
that bring out more detail. I know there's a monkey

956
00:56:57,199 --> 00:56:59,320
business you can do with gray scale and stuff, and

957
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,239
different things said it'll bring it out, but I've given

958
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,320
it actually to four different people and nobody's come through yet.

959
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: But you did something that most people don't and that

960
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:15,599
is you know, you're talking about how much it would

961
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:20,840
benefit the entire Bigfoot community if everybody had just work

962
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,880
together and share information. And one of the key things

963
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,880
that you did that a lot of people don't do

964
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:35,400
is you ignored your preconceived opinions and theories and you

965
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:38,639
just tried it. You just listened and tried it just

966
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:41,440
to see for yourself. Hey, I'm just going to find

967
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,199
out if this really works or not. And it slammed

968
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:46,480
open barn doors for you.

969
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's it. And the thing of it is is

970
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,519
I watched Not Finding Bigfoot for ten years. You know

971
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,239
that Cliff and Bobo and I've never sorry, but I'm

972
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,440
not a moneymaker. Fan. Renne and I you know, chat

973
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:08,199
on occasion and uh, but all the stuff that they did,

974
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:10,800
I was sitting here. I'm a critical thinker, you know.

975
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,440
I use reasoning logic, you know. And that's the whole thing.

976
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,559
If you if you don't, you know, there's no point

977
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:19,119
in doing this right because I'd never do say when

978
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:21,079
I put out the videos and stuff that this is

979
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,760
actually Sasquatch. It's like I wasn't here. I didn't see

980
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,639
this being built, you know, So I can't say that

981
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:31,480
this is absolutely Sasquatch. Now I can see the footprints

982
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,960
are and I got plenty of them. But other than that,

983
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,320
you know, as far as proof goes, it's like I

984
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,480
didn't see it being made. So you'll you'll see me

985
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,400
in the video. Well you know, I'll always say, well

986
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,840
what do you think? You know? And that's the whole thing.

987
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Is I put out one this morning. I don't know

988
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,679
if you saw it, but what it is is one. Uh.

989
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,119
It was from one of our videos called dream Weaver

990
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:05,559
and another researcher in Cottage Grove, her name is Anette Smith,

991
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,880
and the Nett pointed out when we first put that out.

992
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,719
She says the bill you need to go into about

993
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,320
the one minute ten mark. There's something there you need

994
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,199
to see, and we think we got photo bombed. So

995
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,840
Stan actually went in and he blew all that up.

996
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,159
It's only a couple of minutes long to video, and

997
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,480
you can definitely see this thing movie. It pops up

998
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:33,239
from the side of a tree. You can see the

999
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,679
heads and shoulders, you can see it move you can

1000
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:39,119
see movement and and everything. It's like it wasn't something

1001
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:42,119
we were expecting, and but we've been asking for We've

1002
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,760
been telling them, Hey, guys, anybody we want a photobombas

1003
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,400
that would be cool. You know, it'll go a long

1004
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,400
ways to showing that you know, you are real, you know,

1005
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:54,599
And I think we actually got one. So you'll have

1006
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:56,039
to watch that and tell me what you think.

1007
00:59:56,159 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Do you think they have any interest

1008
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:03,719
in being proven to exist?

1009
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no interest in proving they exist.

1010
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,119
I already know they do. You know, when I was

1011
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:13,360
face to face, that pretty much submitted what I was

1012
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,079
looking at. And even though I didn't believe it, I

1013
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:20,079
had no choice. You know. It's like when you're two

1014
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:25,000
feet away from something that's about nine foot four, it's

1015
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,119
four feet across the shoulders, three feet deep in the chest,

1016
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:32,000
and you're looking eye to eye with it. Its eyes

1017
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,719
are illuminated, there was no light to illuminate them with.

1018
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,760
And it's a series in your mind pretty much guarantees

1019
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,480
that you're going to become a believer. Like right now,

1020
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,960
there's no incensor. Buts He's like, now you believe it? Now?

1021
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:52,280
Yes I do. Matter of fact, I was terrified, but yes,

1022
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,239
I believe it.

1023
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 3: Why do you think that one chose to show itself

1024
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,519
to you like that?

1025
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,039
Speaker 1: Well, probably because of the way I am. I'm very

1026
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:08,480
open minded, very calm, you know. You at the time,

1027
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:11,000
you see, you know, fairly high vibing. It's the time,

1028
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:12,960
you know, life changed me for a long this time.

1029
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,199
But now I'm getting back up there and building my

1030
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,239
own personal frequencies by changing my outlook on things and

1031
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,840
the way I look at things. And I think they

1032
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,519
understand that. And I think a lot of their stuff

1033
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:31,440
when they want to interact with somebody is way pre planned.

1034
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000
They already know what's going on and when it's going

1035
01:01:34,039 --> 01:01:36,480
to happen, and where you're going to be, and you know,

1036
01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:42,320
it's it's not by accident. It is all with purpose.

1037
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,039
So if folks are having a sighting, do you want

1038
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:52,800
to have a relationship with him? Number One, lose your fear.

1039
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:59,119
Lose your fear and triggering in for curiosity, and don't

1040
01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:03,159
be afraid. They've never tried to hurt me. You hear

1041
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:07,480
all these horror stories, but you kind of realize people

1042
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,639
are explaining things from their own perception and their own fears.

1043
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:13,360
I have no fear. The only fear I ever had

1044
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:16,159
was the Sasquatch. I used to be afraid of heights

1045
01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:19,159
and different things, and I faced them. I learned a

1046
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:21,800
long time ago. I've read a lot of psychology growing up,

1047
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,440
and it's like, you need to face your fears. We

1048
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,039
make them up. We make up our own fears. That's

1049
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:29,480
why everybody has different fears because you made it up.

1050
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:33,039
Something happened along the line in your life, or you've

1051
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:35,800
got an example from somebody else that caused you to

1052
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,639
fear something like oh spiders, Oh no, you know they're

1053
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:40,159
gonna eat me. No, I catch them up and let

1054
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:44,639
them go outside, you know. So you know, I'm a

1055
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,599
lot closer to nature than a lot of people are.

1056
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,480
As well, you know, some people are couch surfers. They

1057
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:53,000
live in the city and they never get themselves off

1058
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:55,239
the couch and out in the woods, you know. So

1059
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,880
and those are the ones the trolls that we get,

1060
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,320
you know, that are calling bs on us because you know,

1061
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,239
they don't believe in anything. And there's these people that

1062
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,440
i spent my entire life in the woods and I've

1063
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,480
never seen anything. Well, you know, first of all, maybe

1064
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,440
they don't like you, you know, yeah, you know, you

1065
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,599
know they have to. They choose you, you don't choose him.

1066
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:22,519
I never thought I'd be doing this at this point

1067
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:25,800
in my life. Ever, this was not on my radar

1068
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,559
whatsoever at all. Sam too, Sand's whole life has changed.

1069
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,320
That poor guy Kay has come a long ways in

1070
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,679
a short period of time. I've taught him well, and

1071
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:38,840
he's one hell of an asset because he used to

1072
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,760
do you know, investigations for you know, the Sheriff's department,

1073
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,079
and he's very stup, very observant and just amazing.

1074
01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:52,719
Speaker 3: Well, tell everybody where they can find your stuff. I'm

1075
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,719
sure the listeners are going to want to check out

1076
01:03:54,760 --> 01:04:01,519
these videos. You've got some amazing track way evidence posted

1077
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:04,760
on your Facebook page that I was looking over. I'm

1078
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,440
particularly fond of the tracks, and I guess we're stalking

1079
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:11,079
a goose.

1080
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,559
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I looked up what type of bird? And

1081
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:19,519
everybody's going, well, you know, I'm like, well, what large birds?

1082
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:23,119
Was a print this size? It never mentioned Canadian geese.

1083
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,119
It said it could have been an egret, It could

1084
01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:29,159
have been a heroine. It could have been a wild turkey,

1085
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:33,239
you know, a very large wild turkey. But we were

1086
01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:37,199
there a few weeks ago and we actually found another trackway,

1087
01:04:37,239 --> 01:04:40,119
which that'll be up here whenever Stan gets to it.

1088
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:43,960
And that one was a fifty two inch step, fifty

1089
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,440
four inch step, fifty four inch step, and we tried

1090
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,519
to step it, step it off to see if we

1091
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,239
could do it. I was first one to do it.

1092
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,440
He filmed it, and I can't do it now. If

1093
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,440
I was running, that would be a different thing. But

1094
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:02,119
it was actually a another researcher friend of mine, Mark Gould,

1095
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:04,639
who used to live here in Salem, but he's moved

1096
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:08,679
back to I say, Arkansas. He's not that far from Todd.

1097
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:13,440
Todd d and uh he said, uh, you know, Bill,

1098
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:16,320
I saw that video and it looks like they're stalking

1099
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:20,159
the bird. I'm like, well that makes sense, you know.

1100
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,519
And and so we were out a few weeks ago,

1101
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,880
Sat and I and uh we were down there. We

1102
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,119
found that one track way, but there was some geese

1103
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,760
down there, and uh so I'm looking at fresh tracks

1104
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,679
from the geese because we kind of chased them off

1105
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:37,440
a little bit because we were looking for tracks. And uh,

1106
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,760
I looked down at the footprint the foot and I

1107
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,519
went and I measured it, and that's it. He's like

1108
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:46,199
what I said, they were tracking a goose. The goose

1109
01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:48,800
makes an imprint just like that. And I said, there

1110
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,039
it is right there, that's the same exact imprint, and

1111
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,960
so we had ascertaining it. Well, that's it's likely that

1112
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:58,000
they were stalking a goose. Well, you know, we like

1113
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:03,440
to eat goose. They are cuite cristy. So and that's

1114
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,400
what it looks like is they were they were probably

1115
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:10,760
stocking a goose, because just after that we're the tracks disappear,

1116
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,199
which the goose was probably flying off or you know,

1117
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,320
started to leave the ground, and a lot of the

1118
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,920
cast we have a lot of toe slips from them,

1119
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,039
you know, running or accelerating to maybe running catch the thing.

1120
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,599
You know, so it was probably starting to take flight

1121
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,960
when the tracks of the goose disappeared. But their tracks

1122
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:32,079
all of a sudden you could see all the toe

1123
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:35,199
slips and everything that was happening. Is they're they're going

1124
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:38,519
after it. So it made sense to us to you know,

1125
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,239
looking at things and putting it all together, that that's

1126
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:46,079
probably what happened. So it was really interesting. But as

1127
01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:50,519
far as finding me, folks on Facebook, just go to

1128
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:56,119
the Sasquatch Puzzle, uh, like and follow. We appreciate it

1129
01:06:57,199 --> 01:06:59,960
because we don't charge anybody for our site, our video

1130
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:02,159
or anything else. What we're trying to do is get

1131
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:05,159
up enough people that are on our sites to where

1132
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,480
Facebook will pass and YouTube will pass, you know, once

1133
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:11,400
we get up to a certain membership and stuff, and

1134
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,239
all you got to do is like and subscribe on

1135
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:19,800
the YouTube channel the same name, the Sasquatch Puzzle. There's

1136
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,719
not a lot of videos there because we're just like

1137
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:23,559
I said, we're just getting started with This is actually

1138
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,000
a new site and we're just starting from Winstan and

1139
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,039
I got together and started this whole thing. So I

1140
01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:32,360
never thought I'd be taking on a partner, you know,

1141
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,320
But when they liked him, so much that he had

1142
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,119
poor sightings in two days. And all the things that

1143
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:41,320
he and I found that were in my own area

1144
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,960
that I've been going to for five years and I

1145
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,679
never found him. Yeah, and he started spotting all these

1146
01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:48,159
things because I taught him very well. He was a

1147
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:52,360
past study, very quick study, and he started seeing all

1148
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,760
these things and go, wait, wait, Rakes. You know, some

1149
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,039
days we get up there and we go fifty feet

1150
01:07:57,159 --> 01:07:59,519
and we found something else. Then we go one hundred yards,

1151
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,079
we find something else. You're another fifty feet something else.

1152
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,960
And it was just saying after thing after thing, and

1153
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,559
it was just incredible. But yeah, the sasquatch puzzle. And

1154
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:10,480
the reason, like I said, I named it is because

1155
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:13,360
we all have a piece of that puzzle. And the

1156
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,960
coolest thing is is if we all start to share

1157
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,000
and talk with each other about all these things, we

1158
01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:21,680
get a bigger picture, you know, because everybody has a

1159
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,880
different experience. I think they choose people for different missions

1160
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,720
to do things. And part of mine is debunking that

1161
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,279
they're monsters. They're not monsters, you know. They think that, oh,

1162
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:36,840
you know, the males wander and they gather somewhere for

1163
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,520
breeding season, all what a bunch of bs as far

1164
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,760
as I can tell, the ones that I have interacted with,

1165
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,319
and I've interacted with five different clans now of Sasquatch,

1166
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:51,600
and but the ones that I mainly go or the

1167
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,760
family unit that I study up in the jew area,

1168
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,319
and as far as I can tell, they're monogamous. They

1169
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:05,479
stay together. He was the same lady Sasquatch. And you

1170
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,199
know the coolest part is she looks like Patty. Oh wow.

1171
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,279
And the whole thing is is as far as from

1172
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,520
there to Bluff Creek is only around one hundred miles

1173
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:23,920
as the crow flies, so it's a good possibility she

1174
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,800
could be related to Patty. That would be something maybe

1175
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,359
one of her daughters or her granddaughter. I don't know.

1176
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,000
You know, I didn't ask her age. And you know

1177
01:09:32,079 --> 01:09:36,600
you've got yeah that's it. Oh yeah, Or you're in trouble,

1178
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,039
pack your bag, you camping with the dog. But yeah,

1179
01:09:43,039 --> 01:09:46,159
I've had some amazing experiences this year. This last year

1180
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:49,399
has just been totally off the hook. I got one

1181
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,479
trackway this on there which I had the prints here

1182
01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:58,119
from Blue River, Oregon up in the Lamba National Person.

1183
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:04,079
That's because of the the researcher Annett smith A Nette

1184
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:06,720
had a siding there of two juveniles, and she wrote

1185
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,520
me right away when she came back. They were up

1186
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,600
there camping with family, and she posted or sent me

1187
01:10:13,039 --> 01:10:19,520
several pictures of footprints as well as tree structures, and

1188
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,720
then just told me her story. So I went up

1189
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,439
there to go investigate it because I used to live

1190
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,199
in Springfield, which is, you know, about fifty miles away

1191
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,600
from Blue River. And I went up there to go

1192
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,079
do this on my own just after it was like

1193
01:10:33,279 --> 01:10:35,560
two days after she contacted me and said she just

1194
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,800
had the siding up there. So I went up to

1195
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,399
kind of corroborate the siding, but I never asked her

1196
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:43,439
where it was exactly. I know where it is now

1197
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:46,600
after the fact. But I thought, well, I know all

1198
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,520
the spots up there. I've been going up there for

1199
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,880
thirty years, you know, because I lived in the Springfield

1200
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,359
Eugene area for a long time. But so I went

1201
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,119
up there on my own. The first place I explored

1202
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:03,880
up there, I was hearing what I described as mouth pops.

1203
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,600
So there was a juvenile or maybe it could have

1204
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,520
been adult. I don't know, but you know, I'm assuming

1205
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,800
it was a juvenile because all the tracks. I found

1206
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,399
them were juvenile and three different sizes, the same as

1207
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:22,239
up here at the applegate. And I found trackaway probably

1208
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:28,079
over one hundred prince and I casted probably about fifteen

1209
01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:31,000
of them. I left several behind because all of a

1210
01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:34,439
sudden a thunderstorm opened up on me. I was trying

1211
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,000
to get up there before the thunderstorm started, and you know,

1212
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:40,279
so if I found anything, I could cast them with stuff.

1213
01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:43,359
And at the last spot, I'm at the backside of

1214
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,079
a coffer dam and I just said, well, you know, wow,

1215
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,640
when I pulled up there the first time, I looked

1216
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,279
down and go, man, that water's way down there, and

1217
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:55,479
it's down a boat launch, which you know, they're pretty

1218
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,520
darn steep, and I'm like, do I really want to

1219
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,960
go down there and go look around? And uh, well,

1220
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:03,920
I went up the road and I was looking for,

1221
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,079
you know, any other spots. It's like, man, that's the

1222
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:08,479
one logical place you know that I could find those,

1223
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,920
aside from a campground there, which was closed, you know,

1224
01:12:12,279 --> 01:12:14,399
and I didn't want to kind of break into That's

1225
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:19,000
where in that Hatter sighting was that campground, you come

1226
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:21,039
to find out? You know, So I was gonna just

1227
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:25,199
point I'd gone way down the road and turned around

1228
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:28,800
and came back up and went back up to this

1229
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,039
backside there, which is where me and my buddies used

1230
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:33,359
to always put the boat in, and we I got

1231
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,439
thousands of fish out of that place. But I said, okay,

1232
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:41,680
I'm looking down there, going that's a long ways down there. Okay,

1233
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,319
I'm going to do it. So I go hiking down

1234
01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:46,520
this thing, and it's like a quarter mile or more

1235
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,720
down actually, it's probably closer to a half mile down

1236
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:55,880
down the flats way below the launch area. And I said, okay,

1237
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,760
I'm going to take a run down there and go

1238
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,640
look around. And as soon as I got off launch

1239
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,239
started watering down to the first flat. I started as

1240
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,880
I found the footprints, and I found a lot of footprints.

1241
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,399
I found the trackways there, and then I was measuring

1242
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,640
away and I was like, well, I got three different

1243
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:21,039
sasquatches here, and they're all juveniles, and uh so I'm like, okay,

1244
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:22,760
now I got to walk all the way back up

1245
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,159
the hill, go get my casting supplies, then drag them

1246
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:29,840
all the way back down here, which I did, you know,

1247
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,319
as quickly as I could, because I know these storms

1248
01:13:32,319 --> 01:13:34,399
are coming in and I've got to get this done

1249
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,640
before I get out of there. And uh, most of

1250
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,479
the casts because they, you know, I couldn't wait long

1251
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,760
enough because the storm was hitting. I broke. But I

1252
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,199
put them all back together, and most actually most of them,

1253
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:51,159
you can't tell them I broke them. I did a

1254
01:13:51,239 --> 01:13:53,159
heck of a job of putting them back together, I'll

1255
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:56,600
tell you. But yeah, with the first crack of thunder

1256
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,880
that I actually felt in my chest, I knew it

1257
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,399
was time to get out of there, because I was

1258
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,520
the tallest thing out there.

1259
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's time to go at that point.

1260
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: So I was a little stressed and nervous and in

1261
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,199
a hurry. So I left about five or six prints behind.

1262
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,960
You know, I didn't wait, you know, for this thing

1263
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,439
to blow over anything else because they were still soft.

1264
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,199
They were soft to the touch, and I'm like, man,

1265
01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:22,359
you know, I'm just going to have to deal with

1266
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:25,479
what I got and sacrifice those and get myself out

1267
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,479
of here. You know, this is two hundred and fifty

1268
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:30,720
miles from my house, you know, for me to drive

1269
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,479
all the way up there from where I currently live

1270
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,399
in Medford. But yeah, it's like I got a beat,

1271
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,880
beat get myself out of here. But there was I

1272
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,760
counted over over one hundred prints in that trackway, a

1273
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,680
three individual, three juveniles, and that's where it started. And

1274
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,439
now I keep finding juvenile trackways. I have found in

1275
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:58,439
the past year six trackways, all juveniles, every one of them.

1276
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,359
We've found a few adult prints mixed in here and there,

1277
01:15:01,399 --> 01:15:04,800
but they were washed out or you know, you could

1278
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,039
just see that this is an adult print. You know,

1279
01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:09,680
we measure them and everything go, yeah, well that's an adult,

1280
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:15,880
you know, or you know, a young adult by the

1281
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,960
size and everything, and it's like, okay. Unfortunately, when I

1282
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:25,039
found the trackway at oh, you've heard of the big

1283
01:15:25,079 --> 01:15:28,800
Foot Trap, right, yeah, for sure, Okay, well this is

1284
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,039
less than a mile from the big Foot Trap. Oh yes,

1285
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,640
that Applegate Lake. But yeah, it's been an insane year.

1286
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,720
You know. I found the ones at Blue River, then

1287
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:46,319
see my juvenile at oak Ridge. Then been through Rogue

1288
01:15:46,399 --> 01:15:51,479
River National Forest, fine prints there Red Views Wilderness, which

1289
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,000
is near Applegate Lake. That's the backside headed towards California.

1290
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,479
Because I'm only from there. I'm only you know, about

1291
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:04,880
fifteen miles from the California and the Pacific Coast Trail

1292
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,640
it's the road that I was going on up there

1293
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,119
with some of the finds I found up there actually

1294
01:16:10,359 --> 01:16:12,960
is a drop off and pickup point for the Pacific

1295
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:20,159
Coast Trail, oh Wow, Rogue River National Forests, the Waima

1296
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:25,840
National Forest, Crater Lake National Park, plying evidence a Skylakes

1297
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:30,640
Wilderness excuse me, which is the backside of Crater Lake.

1298
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:34,840
If anybody knows, it's actually called Mount Masama is its

1299
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,880
proper name. But you know the lake they called Crater Lakes,

1300
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,800
so everybody knows it from by that of course, Rover

1301
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,560
National Holders and the Taie Unit in Douglas County, which

1302
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,319
is where Stand lives. As a matter of fact, my

1303
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:51,439
last sighting, which was my eleventh siding, I was spending

1304
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,960
the United Stands. We'd just done some filming that that

1305
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,720
previous day, and I was up at five am and

1306
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,720
I had to go. So I was camping in my

1307
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,960
vand and I stepped out and uh to get a

1308
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,640
little relief, And I look up across the backside of

1309
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:17,479
his property. There's a road back and then the neighbor's

1310
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,319
place on the other side of the road, and I'm

1311
01:17:20,359 --> 01:17:23,039
looking in the neighbor's yard and there's a sasquatch watching me.

1312
01:17:23,079 --> 01:17:26,520
I'm like, you mind, it's kind of a private moment.

1313
01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:31,000
And so there was my eleven siding right there at

1314
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,079
stands place. He's got footprints that they leave in his

1315
01:17:34,199 --> 01:17:39,159
yard almost daily. It's just been something for him. Yeah,

1316
01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:42,079
he's he just he still knew it just but he's

1317
01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:45,159
still just amazed at everything that happens from day to day.

1318
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:47,840
And he says, you know, I got I got two choices,

1319
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,319
either run away from this and let it go, or

1320
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,680
embrace it. And he chose to embrace it. And it's

1321
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:56,920
the rest of the history.

1322
01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:01,399
Speaker 3: If you've had any honor with sasquatch or something else

1323
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,199
you can't explain, you'd like to share your story on

1324
01:18:03,239 --> 01:18:06,640
the Bigfoot Crossroads podcast, Email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at

1325
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,439
gmail dot com. Check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com.

1326
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,640
You can find links to social media, past episodes, merchandise,

1327
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,119
everything you need all in one place. And until next time,

1328
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:19,760
remember there's something in the woods.