1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,199 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three, 2 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:17,760 episode thirty seven of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Mockler, 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,519 joined by Adam Os and Will Updike has incredibly slow 4 00:00:21,559 --> 00:00:24,280 internet and rule Montana, so he is not joining us, 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,839 but he does send us love from Montana. Adam looks 6 00:00:27,879 --> 00:00:31,160 like he's in rural Montana right now. We are Clips 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,320 in Dip. Thank you for listening to us. Thank you 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,159 for subscribing to everyone who was on the live stream 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,719 after the game on Thursday when my power went out. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,119 Thanks for hanging out until he's going you three episode 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:53,640 we are gonna talk joined credible. He is in that 12 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:56,560 Send us love. How the heck are you doing? From Montana? 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,439 Adam looks like people are bopping around town. We are Clips. 14 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:02,039 Thank you for listening. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,879 Speaker 2: I have better Internet in my car. Everyone who was all. 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: O Clippers Beanie the Light Blue Clips Podcast. 18 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: We're going to talk the Clippers splitting in the Sallas. 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: I love. Probably going to be pretty. 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,439 Speaker 1: Game before we get into that. I think that that 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,599 looks good. I will say people are like they have 22 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,000 hasn't that in that color? The light blue? 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I have better Internet in my car than 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Will does in Montana. That's pretty crazy. Alright, clips, just. 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,439 Speaker 1: Let's get right in. 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,439 Speaker 2: The Clippers split in Dallas. They look the City Edition 27 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,680 stuff this season. 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,319 Speaker 1: Not the same I will, I think that is good. 29 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,719 I will. They played the maths. There was no Kyrie 30 00:01:56,959 --> 00:01:59,640 like they have the good to go in that color 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,879 the light the world six or looks like something that's 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 uh torching them offensively, which was good to see. The 33 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:08,039 trailer parks. How do we feel? That's all I'm getting. 34 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,000 There was some concerning things I may want to I 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,199 feel I'm just not. I think we all were happy 36 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:15,120 with the split. Right, let's get right into it. The 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,599 Clippers split in Dallas. 38 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:20,199 Speaker 2: They went on Thursday, Yes, but we also didn't know 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,319 at that time, and Minco was going to play. He 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,319 didn't play out of the game, missed one of the games. 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,000 And when we contextualize it and Kyri goes six for 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,360 twenty five like that in game two, that's a winnable game. 43 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:35,280 That's just a game where you could have gotten greedy 44 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:35,759 and one. 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Feel about this split. Want to bring up the. 46 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:42,719 Speaker 2: Point in that respect, I think we were happy with this. 47 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:44,599 They at least are not going to get swept on 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,199 this round trip no matter what happens against Memphis on Monday. Yes, 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:54,039 and there didn't play either game right now, missed one 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,840 of the games. Yeah, I want you contextualize it. Kyrie 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,919 goes six or twenty five like that in game two, 52 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:03,479 that's a winnable as that, that's just a game. 53 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: Where in game one. 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit disrepported to support in that respect. 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: From law Murray, the Clippers are thirteen at least. 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: Actually get stepped on this road trip no matter what 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,120 happens against Monday. Are you concerned there? I was like 58 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:23,800 the last games in the team right now and James Harden. 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: Over the world. Yeah, so I wanted to bring that. 60 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:30,599 I didn't know whether to be. I havented to. But 61 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:31,400 they're not as big. 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,159 Speaker 2: As he just had eight days off on So in 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,000 game two that's what about like from three held up. 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,479 Speaker 1: Normal? The Clippers are third, I mean better than thirty 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,759 different three and three and ten when they don't like 66 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:50,680 are you concerned about the had his last four. 67 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,639 Speaker 2: Games, if anything over. 68 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: The last it would be which is not good to me? 69 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:00,639 Speaker 2: Okay, I am concerned. I don't know he was doing better. 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,520 He just had eight days off four, he didn't play 71 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:06,319 for eight straight days, missed one game, the game against 72 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:07,840 the Houston Rockets during that time. 73 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Because these are crazy schedule he's not getting. 74 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,599 Speaker 2: But I know coach Lou talked about him rocking slower 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,199 last night. But I'm just saying, like, I don't know. 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,879 He just had six and a half turnover over the 77 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:25,399 game Latour, where only one of them I think he had. 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,800 I were learns that that's ru I don't know, nine 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,120 turnover better than over and over then turnovers last night. 80 00:04:32,319 --> 00:04:34,519 He didn't play for the straight days, you only missed 81 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:37,360 one sister game against Rockets during that It's not like 82 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:40,199 he's had crazy assists to seven turn that I know 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,720 coach talked about him look slast night and worries, but 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,480 and I don't know. You're right, Maybe it is six 85 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:51,519 and a half turnovers fiftee a guy that one game 86 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,360 off where which would be even more alarming, guess because 87 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,000 that time off and also that's nine turnovers, six turnovers 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,160 haven turnovers. It's not like he's piling up of a 89 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,920 sister And this looks like it's gonna be a tough 90 00:05:05,959 --> 00:05:10,759 game against not for him to assist to set so 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,519 we're gonna find something out off, So I don't know. 92 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:22,199 Maybe I think bigger issue is they still secondary ball handled, 93 00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:26,759 which would be even more along I guess because Star 94 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,600 break and now there isn't a real guy that's an 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,279 rhythm tim. It looks like it's gonna be a tough 96 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:38,279 game against the Memphis defense for him because they have 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,399 plenty of guys they can throw on them. So we're 98 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:42,639 gonna find something out tomorrow, and then they have another 99 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,759 three days off, So I don't know. I think the 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,399 bigger issue is they still don't have a more liable 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,600 secondary ball handler. And we've talked about KPg a little bit, 102 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,959 but there isn't a real guy that's an obvious choice 103 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:02,160 to take more of the burden off of James Harden 104 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:04,959 that you can depend on right now for the Slippers team. 105 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:08,879 Speaker 1: Not only that you can kind of depend on, excuse me, 106 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,240 from a ball handling perspective, from a shooting perspective, right Like, 107 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,639 if it's Norm initiating the offense, obviously you have to 108 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:19,040 respect the shooting. If Chris Dunn or KPJ are initiating 109 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:23,199 the offense, no team's defense has to respect either of 110 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,079 those guys. Outside shooting right now, which makes it, you know, 111 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,720 even harder for them to initiate the offense because of that. 112 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:33,600 Do we just I mean, until Kawhi comes back, which 113 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:37,680 hopefully is in five days, we kind of just have 114 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:43,360 to live with the hardened not growing pains, aches and pains, 115 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,720 I guess, just as we go on trying to get 116 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,720 his body a little more right, I don't know, Yeah, Yeah, 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,240 it just doesn't feel they're getting less and less these 118 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,920 types of games, right, these high turnover games, they're getting 119 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:04,680 less and less easier to shove aside and not worry about. 120 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, the further you get into the season, the more 121 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:12,560 evidence you get at these aren't you know, a fluke. 122 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:16,879 This is likely what we've been talking about all season long, 123 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,439 from the beginning. A guy who is asked to do 124 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,079 far too much. His workload is taxing and it's not 125 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,079 going to improve. I don't think until Kawhi comes back 126 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,639 and can be on the floor consistently for this team. Now, 127 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,600 his outside shooting has gotten better. He's been well over 128 00:07:37,639 --> 00:07:41,240 forty percent over the last ten to fifteen games or so, 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,040 so his three pointers have been falling more regularly, but 130 00:07:45,519 --> 00:07:48,000 the turnovers can be a sign of fatigue. It can 131 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:52,240 be mental lapses, it can be just miscues out there 132 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:55,079 for a team that has to be so fine with 133 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,160 it with making you know, passes that get the defense 134 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 off balance that they're trying to thread the needle a 135 00:08:02,079 --> 00:08:04,959 little bit too much and they're turning into turnovers. But 136 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,720 it's mostly just James right now having the excess of 137 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,120 turnovers now he has the ball in his hand. 138 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Is the system? 139 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it makes sense. But they they've been of 140 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,839 the lasa daisical variety the last few games. Now. I 141 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:25,199 haven't enjoyed watching that. 142 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,199 Speaker 1: I agree, Well said that's kind of what gets me 143 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,279 with the Is it just tiredness, Like that's you know, 144 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,639 the the lacks of daisical turnovers, Like are you just 145 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,279 kind of like having a brain fart there or something? 146 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,240 But I mean, maybe they make a move, Maybe they 147 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:44,360 make a move with the trade deadline for someone else 148 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,519 who can back up. But I don't know if that's 149 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:50,200 in the cards because the we're kind of strapped salary wise. 150 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wonder if they can wait that long. The 151 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:57,440 calling Sexton rumors are out there and Kevin Porter Junior, 152 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,480 it's still up and down. It's still a it hasn't 153 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:05,200 gotten you know, more steady or more balanced with him. 154 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:06,799 It feels like you don't know what you're going to 155 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:11,720 get from game to game, quarter to quarter, possession to possession. 156 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:14,360 I understand why they're doing it. They don't really have 157 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,399 many better options going on, and Bones Highland's clearly not 158 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,559 going to get much run, so that's the guy they 159 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:23,120 kind of have to roll with as the backup playmaker. 160 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:26,360 But I think that's the biggest deficiency on this team 161 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,960 right now. It's not a power forward thing. It is 162 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,200 not having a secondary ball handler, a more traditional playmaker 163 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,480 type that can just ease the burden with James Harden. 164 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we kind of we pinpointed that coming into 165 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:45,279 the season. It was a gamble to have KPJ as 166 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,159 the backup. Everyone kind of knew, no matter how much 167 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,679 you love KPJ, that it was going to be, you know, 168 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,759 bringing a guy in who hadn't played at that level 169 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,240 in a while. That's difficult to be your back your 170 00:09:55,399 --> 00:10:01,799 true backup point guard. There. He did have nineteen points, 171 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,559 which hey prevented the last game for being a blowout, 172 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,600 but we'll get into that later. 173 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it did honestly, he was a 174 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,480 minus sixteen in his minutes. I did not feel like 175 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:16,240 those nineteen points were impactful. I don't like going off 176 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:19,879 one game plus minus numbers, but that was one I 177 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,039 was watching very closely, and it didn't feel like a 178 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,320 lot of those buckets led to Clippers runs where the 179 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Clippers actually gaining much of an advantage. I'm not trying 180 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,000 to be overly harsh, but I was talking about this 181 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,320 earlier on Clippers Talk. He's a minus thirty one on 182 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,440 the season in over five hundred minutes. They're not winning 183 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,600 his minutes very often. If you're chasing him hopefully improving 184 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:47,559 as the season goes long. I get it because he's talented, 185 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,159 but yeah, he hasn't turned much of a corner yet 186 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,600 either with his play. It's still erratic. It's still up 187 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:55,000 and down. 188 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like he had a couple. He had 189 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:01,720 at least one foul that kind of helped spark a 190 00:11:01,759 --> 00:11:05,559 MAVs little mini run in that second game where you 191 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,440 see him kind of you know, I don't. 192 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:10,399 Speaker 2: Know, it's he had four turnovers too. 193 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just one of those things where he's 194 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,759 a below average backup point guard, and that's where we're 195 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,960 at right now. The defense is better than Bones. We 196 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,000 need it. Sometimes he grabs, he crashes the boards. Well, 197 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:31,679 but your backup point shooting twenty six percent from three. 198 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,639 I'm not saying it's the end all be all of 199 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:36,879 his game, but it's it's not ideal. 200 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,919 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say at this point that 201 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,399 if Bones Hyland had gotten just as many minutes and 202 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,840 just as much of a leash as Kevin Porter Junior 203 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,799 so far this season, if he got the KPJ role, 204 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:54,440 things wouldn't be any worse, Like, yeah, right, yeah. 205 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: We'd still be it. We'd still be it. Concerned for 206 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,480 the backup point guard position. 207 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, but maybe Bones actually could be a little 208 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,960 bit better, Like maybe the floor is exactly the same 209 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,440 as what it's been with KPJ, and maybe Bones, with 210 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,000 this big of an opportunity like KPJ has gotten, would 211 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:14,399 have actually been a little bit better. 212 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:19,799 Speaker 1: It is interesting, and there are some people who you know, 213 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:22,639 they're they're they champion the things that KPJ does other 214 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,639 than scoring, which hey he had I said this on 215 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,840 the live stream before the LADWP cut my stream off 216 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,120 because they're Lakers fans. 217 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 218 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: He had a great contest at the rim In the 219 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,519 first MAVs game, Bomba, Batoom and KPJ. All three had 220 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,799 really good contests right at the rim to break up 221 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,559 easy baskets for the mass, which I liked. But but 222 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,559 but the shooting's just difficult. I want to ask you 223 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,200 how your I feel like we're on a bit of 224 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:59,799 a Norman Powell roller coaster right now when it comes 225 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:03,320 to outside shooting. And I don't know if it's just 226 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:06,720 him getting back into the rhythm of things. But his 227 00:13:06,879 --> 00:13:11,399 last five games from three point here are Norm Powell's percentages, 228 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:15,240 and I loved everything that Norm has done. There's I 229 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:17,200 think the Clipper should keep Norm for all the people 230 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,440 who are like pitching that we should trade Norm for 231 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,840 some big swing. Here's his last five games three point 232 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:28,200 percentage wise twelve percent, thirty percent, seventy one percent, fifty percent, 233 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,000 twenty seven percent. We're kind of getting into this men 234 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,159 We're in the middle of this kind of men max 235 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:41,480 mode with Norm Powell, which makes things difficult for the Clippers. 236 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,960 Just consistency of results wise. 237 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: I just I don't put a lot into shot numbers 238 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,759 like that when it's on so little volume. Like, for instance, 239 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:54,360 you look at a game where he goes three of 240 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:57,879 ten from three, man he went thirty percent from three. 241 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,679 We need one more and he's at forty p Like, 242 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:03,720 I don't put a lot into those numbers. I don't 243 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,799 think it's that meaningful, to be honest. That's that's kind 244 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:10,840 of how I look at it, because overall, what his 245 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:14,639 last seven games, he's forty four percent from three. Like 246 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,000 the numbers even out, they average out right, and they 247 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:21,279 often look bumpy when you look at individual game longs 248 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,840 when it comes to three point shooting, because you're typically 249 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,799 only taking ten shots at most or somewhere around there, 250 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:30,039 and some games is going to be less than that, 251 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,759 So making one shot or missing one shot can swing 252 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:34,759 something ten fifteen percent. 253 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's fair. You look at the teams that's been against. 254 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:39,799 You had the great game against the Abs, he was 255 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:42,559 four for eight, which is awesome. Second game against some Abs, 256 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,919 not super solid Nuggets and Rockets, just teams that are 257 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,399 in that echelon of very good playoff teams. I hope 258 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:54,279 it evens out. There's nothing to do about it other 259 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,480 than just hope it evens out, because who else is 260 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:59,039 going to be taking and who else do we want 261 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:02,559 to be taking? These three. During this time right now, 262 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,200 I thought Zoo had had two good games in Dallas. 263 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,679 The refs were letting a lot of shit go. In 264 00:15:08,759 --> 00:15:11,240 game two, he had his wrist wrapped. He mentioned the 265 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,600 physicality of the MAVs. Were the Clippers just too tired 266 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:18,000 on Saturday or like it just didn't seem like they were. 267 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,960 The MAVs were incredibly physical, I guess, and maybe the 268 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,799 Clippers were worried about the rest or something, but I 269 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:25,519 think it was pretty apparent that second game. 270 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:30,799 Speaker 2: The MAVs did outwork them in that second game, yeah, 271 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:34,480 which we don't see happen very often, So maybe that 272 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:38,480 puts I don't know. It amplifies the loss a little 273 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,120 bit because the Clippers got beat at their own game, 274 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:47,320 and that doesn't feel great. But I do think some 275 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,960 of this has to be a tip of the cap 276 00:15:49,919 --> 00:15:53,240 or beanie to the Dallas Mavericks with how well they 277 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,320 played defensively, good team and how they adjusted to a visa. 278 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:01,639 Zuboss playing so good on the third night, and he 279 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:04,759 was seeing more doubles and there's more attentionion going his way, 280 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,120 which led to I didn't check the sport VU camera data, 281 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,679 but it felt like the Clippers did well. They were 282 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:13,639 missing a lot of threes. I want to say a 283 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,759 lot of them were pretty good shots and wide open, 284 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:18,360 and they were creating them off the fact that the 285 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 MAVs attention and detail when it came to viaz Zubas 286 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:23,120 opened things up. The problem was the Clippers didn't make 287 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:26,720 them pay for it because they just kept missing. They 288 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,440 were under thirty percent heading into the fourth quarter, where 289 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,639 they ended up going I think four six from three, 290 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:33,399 so it kind of skewed the numbers a little bit 291 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:35,519 by the end of the game, but they were miserable 292 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:38,559 from the outside overall. And if just more of those 293 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:41,480 shots go down and it's just you know, that was 294 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:43,480 eight minutes at the end of the second quarter, so 295 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:46,240 the majority of the second quarter they scored just eight 296 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:49,200 points and they missed a ton of shots. They get 297 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,440 down by fourteen at the half, Like that's kind of 298 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,879 the game right there. You don't get down by fourteen there, 299 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:58,720 you just hit a couple more shots and you're down 300 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:01,519 by five or six of the half. It's a different game. 301 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:04,480 But some of the same stuff that's been bugging me 302 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:06,440 with the beats of Zoo Busnack getting in the basketball 303 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:10,359 definitely existed in that game last night because when he 304 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,519 comes out and has that seven to zero run by 305 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,680 himself or seven straight points for the Clippers and the third. 306 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Grabbing boards, that was such a cool sequence to watch. 307 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,519 He was just like, I need, I'm gonna be in 308 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,440 the right place and I'm gonna make things happen. It 309 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,200 was it was yeah, it was awesome to uh. I 310 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:28,359 was listening to it. It was awesome. 311 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: Here Carlo call that run because he had a self 312 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:34,640 created and two of them were on putbacks off of 313 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,200 missus probably from three, and then one was off a 314 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:40,680 nice pass from Norman pal a feet underneath where he 315 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,440 throws it down. It's like they call a time out. 316 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,279 They get back out there and there's a play in 317 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:50,960 the next possession or two. After Norm hits some free 318 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,039 throws where Zoo is running the floor hard straight to 319 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,400 the rim and instead of going to him, he beat 320 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,400 his man down the floor. They settle for a far 321 00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:04,119 side corner three from Dereck Jones Junior, who misses as 322 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,319 everybody was missing. It's like you have to reward him. 323 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:10,599 That is the perfect situation to reward your big man, 324 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,559 because I think he had just gotten the rebound that 325 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,880 led to that transition break. He was being the more 326 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,440 physical player, or at least matching the physicality of the 327 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:22,319 Dallas Mavericks and doing the little things and scrapping out there, 328 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,400 and that guy is not the one who ends up 329 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,599 touching the basketball on the other end. That type of 330 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,799 stuff does bother. 331 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Me, especially in a scenario where you need the points, right, 332 00:18:32,079 --> 00:18:34,920 like it take the two, we're not shooting, well, let's 333 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,319 take the two. Let's Yeah, maybe it's some overthinking, but yeah, 334 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:42,079 just and again, I want to also point out the 335 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:46,440 refs were letting, as they do against the MAVs and Zubots. 336 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:52,680 He's swatting gnats down there, like he's getting destroyed. It's 337 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,039 like he's getting hit a bunch. He didn't pop up 338 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:57,559 on the injury report, which is great because he had 339 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:00,640 that wrist taped after the game, so he's not on 340 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,519 the injury report. But just kind of annoying you mentioned 341 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:06,480 Derek Jones Junior. Felt really good to see him back 342 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,119 out there. Game one of this series, of this mini 343 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,319 series is exactly why the Clippers got Derek Jones Junior 344 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,680 Game two. Just you know, maybe he's just getting back 345 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,680 into it a little bit, but I was incredibly happy 346 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,960 to see Derek Jones Junior back out for the Clips. 347 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was awesome, obviously. In Game one, he hit 348 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,279 the kill shot at the end and blew a kiss 349 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,359 to the crowd afterwards. He had a great sequence. He 350 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,440 had five straight points for the Clippers at the end 351 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:37,960 of the first half in Game one. He made the 352 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,240 most of his twenty minutes for sure. Yeah, there was 353 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:44,160 a little something extra there for the Dallas Mavericks who 354 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,720 let him go, and you could tell he got up 355 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,039 for that game, and I'm sure there was some added 356 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,319 motivation to come back because they were going to be 357 00:19:51,319 --> 00:19:53,240 in Dallas and he wanted to show up. And I 358 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:56,200 love that about him, Like just like Chris Dunn, just 359 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,359 like a lot of guys on this team who have 360 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,720 felt slided in some way, shape or form by an 361 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:04,680 NBA team or just the NBA in general giving up 362 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,039 on them, And the case of Chris Dunn, I guess 363 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,000 they have a lot to prove and Derek Jones Junior 364 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:13,759 has outperformed his contract all season long and they need 365 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:16,200 what he provides, and he did it in Game one. 366 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:16,960 He was really good. 367 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,039 Speaker 1: I remember the contract came out, people were like, Oh, 368 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:22,440 it seems like the Clippers had to do a slight overpay, 369 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,720 and I'm like, not really not with the cap going up, Like, 370 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:29,119 it's not like he's making an absurd amount of money. 371 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,640 He's a starting level guy who's doing everything the Clippers 372 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,720 wanted for like what eleven MILLI year. 373 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: The one thing I was worried about is if they 374 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,839 bought high because of his three point shooting in the 375 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:44,799 playoffs last year on like sixty shots, right, and he 376 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,160 had never shot I think better than thirty four percent 377 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,200 or something like that in the regular season, and I 378 00:20:50,319 --> 00:20:52,759 was worried coming into this year. For this to really 379 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,039 be a slam duck of a contract, he's got to 380 00:20:57,079 --> 00:21:00,920 continue to get better from three and so far, so 381 00:21:01,079 --> 00:21:01,960 good in that area. 382 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's been awesome. Hope he kind of, 383 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,799 you know, just hits more of a stride against the Grizzlies. 384 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:13,000 Final point before we get into this Clippers Grizzlies preview, 385 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,039 we saw the duality of what this Clippers bench can 386 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:21,720 giveth and taketh away in Dallas, which is something that 387 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:23,319 we've kind of been I don't know if harping on 388 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,960 harping on feels too strong. We've been trying to make 389 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,119 people aware of these last couple of games. We talked 390 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,799 about it against the Nuggets, how we were a little 391 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:33,640 worried about the bench, but we saw like a mirror 392 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,000 was phenomenal. In Game one, it was perfect and mere 393 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:42,680 coffee basketball wasn't there. In Game two. It took KPJ 394 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:47,559 having in you know, Uh, the bench was horrible in 395 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:51,279 Game two, Like everyone other than KPJ couldn't score. It 396 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,599 was just a nightmare. We I cannot stress how much 397 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:58,880 I'm looking forward to the Clippers having a full roster 398 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,319 to play with. When you add Terrence Man into that bench, 399 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,640 it makes it just knocks everyone down one. Then you 400 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,480 add Kawhi knocks everyone down again, makes the roster look 401 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,200 so much more. I don't know if completes the right word, 402 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,200 but manageable for Tylou, so we don't have to run 403 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,400 out some of these lineups where it's just a pure 404 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,519 gamble if you're gonna treadwater or just sink completely. 405 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll definitely solidify things for the Clippers 406 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,480 once they get healthy. Hopefully that happens. There's been so 407 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,400 many teams making up so far this season, like it's crazy. 408 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Even with the Clippers not having Kawhi all season long, 409 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:35,200 I'm like they've kind of been fortunate with injuries so far, 410 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,079 even though they've had Terrence miss seven games. DJ's been 411 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,319 out some Terrence's Terrence has been out. Of course, I 412 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480 still feel like, you know, it could be worse. I 413 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,319 guess that's maybe what we typically deal with, worse the pals, right, 414 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,279 like or the Magic Like It's yeah, yeah, the Magic 415 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,480 just lose Mo Wagner Now, it's like crazy. So I 416 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,000 do think that's going to give a nice bump to 417 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,400 the bench unit, make them look like a much more 418 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,880 complete roster out there where people aren't, you know, after 419 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,400 losses screaming that we need to make this move or 420 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,599 that move. We aren't deep enough, or we need to 421 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,759 fill this part of the roster. Somebody needs this trait. 422 00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:17,599 It's like, well, they're missing key guys right now that 423 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,720 help them in those areas. So yeah, I can't wait 424 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:22,799 get healthy guys. 425 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:25,799 Speaker 1: I know, I have like no analysis for the bench 426 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,799 other than like, I guess they need to make their 427 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:30,839 shots more consistently. It spread out through the guys like 428 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:37,440 Bomba was I so Bomba was great in his second 429 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,359 stint of Game one, when he played that third to 430 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,000 fourth quarter, that was like he was physical every other 431 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,799 shift outside of that, it was just like okay, yeah, no, 432 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,400 this terrifies me for meaningful basketball minutes. This is not 433 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:54,640 that's just too there's just no consistency. 434 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,839 Speaker 2: It's it's what we heard about all summer. Well, we've 435 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,759 known about Mobamba. It's the lack of motor when he 436 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,920 has it and when he doesn't. He had it the 437 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,400 second stint in that game. He didn't the first stint. 438 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,000 I thought he was poor in Game two. Overall, the 439 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,680 level of activity is just not where it needs to 440 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,880 be from an energy aspect. And that's all you have 441 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,440 to do. Be a rim protector, be a rim runner. 442 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240 That's all you're asking from a backup center typically in 443 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,279 today's NBA. And if he hits threes, great, but he 444 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,559 hasn't so far as a member of the Clippers. He's 445 00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:34,039 been missing. Was he at a blow thirty percent? 446 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: He's well blow, he's at twenty three percent, and it 447 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,240 seems like some of the threes he's in the corner. 448 00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:44,759 So it's like, so this is something that they're either 449 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,559 telling him to do or he's just doing where they're fined, 450 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,640 Like every single look he gets from the corners open obviously, 451 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,240 because why would the defense commit a guy to standing there. 452 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:59,160 So it's like that's another thing that makes the bench 453 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,359 all wonky, where it's you have this weird stretch five 454 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,799 who is bad at shooting? Like I was critical of 455 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,680 daniel Tysons shooting. Daniel Tye made a lot more threes 456 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,640 than Obama did and like always had the motor right, Like. 457 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: I guess based off track record, he's due to start hitting. 458 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,680 I mean, he's taken almost eight hundred and three es 459 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,640 I think in the NBA. Yeah, and he's been a 460 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,720 thirty six point shooter last year. Yeah, he he should 461 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,960 be better than this. So maybe they're just betting on 462 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,359 the odds that it turned around. So keep shooting them 463 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,720 is the only way to get out of this funk, 464 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,400 and that would help the team out. But regardless, that 465 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,519 has nothing to do with his defensive activity out there. 466 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it feels pretty pick and choose for 467 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,000 him right now, which again is something that you know 468 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:54,200 you brought up. We've heard about, so I don't know. 469 00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:57,160 All in all, they get the split in Dallas at 470 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,599 this point with who the Clippers have out, I don't 471 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,119 care who we play. I said it in the postgame stream. 472 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,039 I'm like, it always feels good to be Dallas splitting 473 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:13,039 expected am I worried? Sure, but we need the wins 474 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,359 right now. Everything's so tight in the Western Conference. 475 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,839 Speaker 2: I just think regardless of who comes back, there's a 476 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,599 legitimate void right now. To me, when it comes to 477 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:29,880 just having a more traditional backup point card doesn't have 478 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,920 to be traditional. Anybody who's comfortable with creating for others 479 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,880 and getting their own. 480 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would add center to that too, if I'm 481 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,519 being honest. 482 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I just worry less because. 483 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: We can do Nico with the five or. 484 00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're going to go small. They'll have Kawhi 485 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:55,680 at the five at times. And even when the center 486 00:26:55,799 --> 00:27:00,880 is you know bad sometimes like it's still doesn't affect 487 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,599 the game as much. There's still a big body out there. 488 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,559 Speaker 1: Right But if the guy to. 489 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: Spell James Harden is a bigger long term thing to me, because, 490 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480 as you mentioned, if he looks tired now and he 491 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:22,559 just had eight days off, what's going on? They could 492 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:26,279 use somebody, and I like Collin sexon a lot. If 493 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,440 they could figure out a way to nab him from Utah, 494 00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:30,160 that'd be great. 495 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: What's the uh, I'm sure someone will send us this 496 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,400 the salary. What's he making? 497 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: He's like eighteen million and then nineteen next year. It's 498 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,279 similar to Norms contract kind of. And he's really efficient. 499 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,599 Speaker 1: I love no Colin and he it fits what the 500 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,559 Clippers are doing right now. He's a guy who Van 501 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,359 Gundy with Colin Sexon and Chris Dunn. Are you shitting me? Like, 502 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,640 come on now? That would be Yeah, he's an eighteen 503 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,000 to three in the nineteen next year and then he's unrestricted. 504 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: Hmmm, if you could get him for PJ. 505 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Tucker Bones, we don't have anything. 506 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:18,079 Speaker 2: I don't know sure, I mean yeah, would they have 507 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,440 to include, man. 508 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: They have to include something. I think, some kind of player. 509 00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: Value, not just a second, not. 510 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: Just a second, and not just bones who. 511 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, because many others probably offer more. Right, he's good, 512 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,720 Like his only problem is he's undersized. 513 00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 514 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: I was texting my buddy Bob Smith, who's a big 515 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,799 Cavaliers fan, and obviously he was there before being in 516 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,440 that big trade with Utah, and I was like, how 517 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,720 how bad of a defender is he? And I was 518 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:54,680 like He basically said, he's a tryhard guy. He's just limited, right. 519 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:58,079 Speaker 1: He tries incredibly hard on He's like any undersized point 520 00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,960 guard in the NBA who gets real time, which is 521 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880 he tries his ass off on defense. 522 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:07,319 Speaker 2: Like I'm good with that. You know, it doesn't sound 523 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:10,920 like he doesn't have a reputation of being matchup hunted 524 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680 all the time. I do think that's problematic if you 525 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,640 had him in the starting lineup right, And that's been 526 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,039 the issue and why teams haven't fully committed to him. 527 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,880 Even though he's a really efficient scorer. He can be 528 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,519 picked on if he's going up against the other team's ones, 529 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,960 but going up against other team second units, I think 530 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,440 Colin Sexon's perfect there. 531 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: Chris Dunn and Colin Sexon would be a nightmare for 532 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,839 other team second units and first units in some situations 533 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,359 with the other rest of the lineup around him. Colin Sexon, 534 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,720 Chris Done, Kawhi Leonard like that's a difficult one, two 535 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,640 three to get through, and he. 536 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: Gives them a speed element. You know that they're trying 537 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,680 to do more of this year, but do they have 538 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,880 the bodies. They're more athletic they are, but he could 539 00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:58,640 really like. 540 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,559 Speaker 1: Two guys were more athletic. Yeah, because of Derek Jones Jr. 541 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:02,640 And like that's about it. 542 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,799 Speaker 2: He could give him a jolt in that area. 543 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, something to keep an eye on. We will have 544 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:12,519 any news about Colin Sexton's scuttle butt or rumors here 545 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,599 on Clips and Dip. Come on up, we're gonna be 546 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,759 talking Grizzlies versus Clippers, which worried about this one. If 547 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,720 you're listening to us on audio, thank you so much. 548 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,000 Leave a review if you feel like it. We'd appreciate it. 549 00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:27,880 And if you're watching us, thank you for watching us 550 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,160 at YouTube dot complish at Clippers Podcast. We love the subscriptions. 551 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,119 You can see my sweater. If you watch us, you 552 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,359 can see Adam's hat and dark void of a background. 553 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:38,960 If you're listening on audio, there's gonna be a quick 554 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000 ad break and then Clippers versus Grizzlies preview coming up 555 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,599 in three two one. 556 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,759 Speaker 2: Welcome back in US Clips and Dip. I'm medamazin. We 557 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,880 got Chuck Mockler here. No, we'll Updyke unfortunately, but the 558 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,559 Big three will be we'll ride again. 559 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,599 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll be back. 560 00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:59,279 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. As the holidays. Things are tough 561 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,119 right now, but thanks for tough for the Clippers going 562 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,480 to Memphis to try to bounce back, because the Grizzlies, 563 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,519 regardless if they have JA or not, are a tough 564 00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:11,759 team to play against. They are the only team in 565 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,559 the NBA that's top five in both offensive rating and 566 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,599 defensive rating. Damn, they have been that good. They're twelve 567 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400 to three in their last fifteen games. That's tied for 568 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,400 the best record in the NBA, next to OKC, Dallas 569 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:26,960 and Boston over that span. 570 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: So good. 571 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,279 Speaker 2: I don't know how the Lakers beat him the other night, 572 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,240 but anyways, they're starting to play a little bit better, 573 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,000 I guess themselves. This Memphis team is serious. 574 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: They're very good. Jaw will be available for the game 575 00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:45,240 against the Clippers, per lot Murray Marcus Smart is out. 576 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,000 Not only are they top five and O rating and 577 00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:53,480 D rating, Adam, they are top five in field goal attempts, 578 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160 which worries me when you think about the Clippers team 579 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,599 and how we can get beating that sometimes. They are 580 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 second field goal attempts, first in defensive rebounds per game, 581 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680 second in total rebounds per game, second and assists per game, 582 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:10,079 third in blocks per game, third and opponent field goal percentage, 583 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,480 second in opponent three point percentage, and fourth in their 584 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,400 own personal field goal percentage. Some stats that are lining 585 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,039 up to make me worried about this matchup. I would 586 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:28,000 say they do, however, turn the ball over slightly more 587 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,240 than the Clippers do. This is two bottom three teams 588 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,920 and turnovers. So I hope that we don't turn the 589 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,759 ball over as much as we usually do against this team. 590 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,000 We might get I'm worried about this matchup. 591 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, A lot of the stats 592 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,359 with them are influenced by the fact that they play 593 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:54,160 at the fastest pace, so they have more possessions. So 594 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,119 totally they'll turn the ball over because there's more opportunities 595 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,480 to same with field goal attempts, defensive rebounds and stuff. 596 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:07,680 But it's not a great yeah, and the Clippers are 597 00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:12,160 twenty third in pace, so it's definitely contrasting styles. And 598 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,759 if Memphis gets you playing their way, that's probably how 599 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:17,880 the Clippers end up having more turnovers than them. They 600 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,839 try to play too fast for their own liking. 601 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: That's a good call. That's a thing that we've noticed. 602 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,720 You know what's funny. I feel like that happened against 603 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,319 the Blazers when we lost. We were kind of playing 604 00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:31,599 to that that way earlier in the season, I know, 605 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,359 but just that getting caught up and then let's keep 606 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,920 up with these guys you can do. You know, you 607 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,839 feel it in the beginning of the game, You're you're 608 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,359 kind of going shot for shot and then things start 609 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,920 to go awry and you're kind of locked into that 610 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,319 that pace. Yeah, that that's why I kind of, you know, 611 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,319 I wanted to highlight the field goal attempts thing because 612 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,359 that is a weird That's just a stat for me 613 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,160 that I kind of I try and keep track up 614 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,960 because that's pretty indicative of like half things are going. 615 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160 If the Clippers are trying to match a team that 616 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,400 has a bunch of field goals, it's it's just a 617 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,400 crapshoot because it's not the Clippers offensive system to have 618 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,199 that happen. So you're kind of just hoping for the 619 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,960 best with that. 620 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: And they're a good offensive rebounding team, which helps that 621 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,679 staff in him. 622 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are helping their offensive rebounds. Jaron Jackson Junior 623 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,599 is having an incredible season, and I was worried about 624 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,960 this matchup if John Morant was out, but now he 625 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,880 is available. This is I mean, they're what second in 626 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,920 the West. This is a nice time for Zoo to 627 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,480 continue to cement how good of a season he's been having, 628 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,719 depending what we see matchup wise, because maybe we start 629 00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:51,800 the Toomb and we have him on Zoo and or 630 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,639 we have him on Jaron Jackson Junior and Zoo kind 631 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:58,239 of plays that weird free safety role. But I would this, 632 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,280 I'm worried about this matchup. Uh, just because he's been 633 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,199 playing so well. 634 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: Who is your starting lineup? Then if they start a 635 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,320 Tomb in this game, who do you got? 636 00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I would go Harden Norm. Oh that's tough. 637 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,679 It's tough with jaw Harden. I mean yeah, hardened Norm. 638 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:28,599 But toom Derek Jones Zu, Yeah, because then you can 639 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,079 we have a little more flexibility. But it's tough because 640 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:33,440 that the backcourt is. 641 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: Troubles because they've also been starting Zach Edy. Right, So 642 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,599 when they when they beat Golden State one forty four 643 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:51,360 to ninety three, their starting lineup with Desmond Vane, jab Oran, 644 00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:55,239 Zach Edy, Jalen Wells, and Jaron Jackson Jr. There's a 645 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,239 big front line. So he started to yeah, they only 646 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,960 have to start Nico. 647 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like it feels like so they got the good 648 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,280 back court and then they have a gigantic front court. 649 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,880 And I don't like where the Clippers are sitting matchup 650 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,280 wise in between those two things. I get, Yeah, there's 651 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,159 a crunch. When there's a crunch with the starting lineup, 652 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,719 that's when things don't feel good for this Clippers team 653 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,159 because the bench, we don't know what we're gonna get 654 00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:34,039 from the bench. They're the number one The Grizzlies are 655 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:37,559 the number one bench scoring team. I think that's maybe 656 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,239 skewed how they're taking that stat because they've done so 657 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,039 much shuffling of the starting lineup, But they're the number 658 00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:49,559 one bench scoring team, and I just if the bench 659 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:55,079 isn't getting stops. Yeah, I don't know. There's a giant 660 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:56,800 game for Zoo and Derek Jones Junior. 661 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: I worry. I mean, in the starting lineup, it's probably 662 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,960 gonna be Zoo on Edie and Batoom on Derrick Jones 663 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,119 or on a triple J. 664 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: Do you start done? 665 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: Starting to do? 666 00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,199 Speaker 1: What do you start done? Instead of enormous to do 667 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,599 what you are? We just we've sailed past that variable being. 668 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: Changed man, this is tough because you want to cut 669 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,760 off the head of the snake. But actually Jared Jackson 670 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,920 Junior is averaging more points than John Morant this season, right, 671 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:37,239 But Morant does create a lot of havoc. And if 672 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,119 you don't start Chris Dunn, I just don't. 673 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,519 Speaker 1: Know, it's not a good idea. I don't know if 674 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,119 it's a good idea. It's just a question that popped 675 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:47,920 up in my head. 676 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,199 Speaker 2: It's like, if you don't start Chris Dunn, then John 677 00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:56,079 Morant gets it going. If you don't start but Toomb, 678 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,199 then Jared Jackson Jr. And E are going up against 679 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,239 who's Zoo and Derek Jones Jr. 680 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: I may, but he's smaller than Kauhi is. 681 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. I maybe they would try him on Jaron Jackson 682 00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:18,679 Junior because he does take five threes per game and 683 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,199 they think they can get away with it that he 684 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,079 won't try to punish him too much in the post. 685 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,280 But like Zoo's gonna have to be on eve you start, 686 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,719 so he can't play triple J. So do you either 687 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,519 have DJ or but Toom on Jaron Jackson Junior. And 688 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:40,400 if you have DJ or if you have the tomb 689 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,639 out there then Chris Dunn is going to be coming 690 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:48,519 off the bench, and therefore, uh, who's guarding Sam Moran. 691 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 1: Norm James because Desmond Baine is also Like That's what's 692 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,559 annoying is Desmond Baine is a perfect complimentary to job 693 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,920 this Clippers team. There's another matchup nightmare for the Clippers, 694 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,599 like the Houston We can put the Grizzlies in the 695 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:10,519 Houston Rockets category of shitty matchups personnel wise. 696 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: And they're like this against most teams, obviously their second West. 697 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,280 For the reason, Yes, I think I'm not gonna I 698 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,320 think I'm gonna have the tomb coming off the bench 699 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,920 still to keep Chris Dunne in. The more I think 700 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,920 about it, I'm gonna see if I can get away 701 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,599 with Derek Jones Junior on Triple J. So we're starting 702 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:36,360 three guards, yeah, but one of them is I mean 703 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,840 it's the same starting lineup they've been going with basically. Yeah, 704 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,360 And Chris Dunn just came off a game where there's 705 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,760 a reason Kyrie Irving went six for twenty five. Agreed, 706 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,239 he played unbelievable defense. I think I have to have 707 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,400 him out there against John Morant because even though he's 708 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,599 not leading them and scoring by like a fraction of 709 00:39:58,639 --> 00:39:59,199 a point. 710 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: Basically tied, right, they're both at like twenty one. 711 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so close. It's still stems from Jock creating 712 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:11,480 mismatches often and bending the defense. So I think I'm 713 00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:14,480 still gonna have to have Chris Dunn out there, which 714 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,679 means out do they They could go but too instead 715 00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:18,880 of Derek Jones Jr. 716 00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: I think they starting all year. 717 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they say, well, DJ's coming back from a 718 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,800 hamstring injury and that's our excuse for starting to zoom 719 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,760 over him. I don't know. 720 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,599 Speaker 1: I think the done thing. You're right though. Done guarded 721 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,440 Kyrie for nine minutes again per the incredibly wonky NBA 722 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,719 stats matchup data, he went two for eight against Dunn. 723 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,519 He's a great performance. That's a lot of time. 724 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,199 Speaker 2: That is a big number. 725 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: That's yeah, like. 726 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: That's just just when he was isoed against him. Basically, Yeah, 727 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,599 I think I have to go. I think I've talked 728 00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:10,480 myself into going with Chris Dunn. But is there a 729 00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,039 way that you could still have a tomb out there 730 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,079 instead of DJ to go up against Sharon Jackson Jr. 731 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,159 I don't know. I bet he, I bet he still 732 00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:22,880 goes with the starting lineup we just saw. 733 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worried about Norm and getting in terms of 734 00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,000 the physicality. I'm worried about a lot in this matchup. 735 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,639 Speaker 2: It gets worse, it really does. 736 00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,599 Speaker 1: I know. I put those stats up about what they're 737 00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,079 top five, and but once we've really been digging it. 738 00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,159 I haven't been thinking about it all day, and except 739 00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,119 for I did the breakdown. So like we you know, 740 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,920 teams have the blueprint for making things difficult for Norm, 741 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,880 which is be physical. It's not a crazy new thing, 742 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:59,599 but we've seen it happen kinda recently. Yeah, we're gonna 743 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,119 need kind of all the stuff we talked about that 744 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,280 was bad in the second game against Dallas to be 745 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,920 the opposite. We need James Harden to control the ball. 746 00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:11,239 We cannot give the Grizzlies free points or free possessions, 747 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,360 and we need both of those guys. We need Harden 748 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,880 and Norm to combine to shoot. They need to be 749 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,000 at like thirty seven percent from three together. 750 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,639 Speaker 2: I wonder if they just try to hide James Harden 751 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:33,239 and Jalen Wells, who is shooting well from distance, but 752 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,519 maybe they try to hide him there and Norm just 753 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,079 has to play well against Desmond Baan and just has 754 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:41,559 to take the challenge of guarding him. 755 00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish desden Vane wasn't as good as he is. 756 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,159 That would make me feel better about this. About this. 757 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:58,400 He's good, he's not, He's not bad. This one. It's 758 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,119 gonna be interesting. We need and we just we need 759 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:06,760 Harden and norm to combine for like sixty. I genuinely 760 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,079 feel that against this Grizzlies team, or pretty close to it, 761 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:12,599 let's call it fifty. 762 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: The Grizzlies are that good. I think that's fair. 763 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: And we need Zoo Becauzoo's gonna be tasked. Edie's incredibly physical. 764 00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:24,960 He's a physical guy that's gonna take some that's gonna 765 00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:28,960 tax Zoo a little bit. So, like we talked about 766 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,159 it in the first segment, but someone on the bench 767 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,199 needs to not only score but also play good defense 768 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,760 because the Grizzlies bench isn't really anything to sneeze at either, 769 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,039 and it's it has to be kind of a mirror. 770 00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,760 I think it's not gonna be a backup five. We're 771 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,320 not gonna have like a mo bomba game against the Grizzlies. 772 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: I felt like when they couldn't score in the second 773 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,440 quarter against Dallas, and a lot of that was with 774 00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:02,679 the starting unit. By the way, I was kind of thinking, 775 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,280 I'm trying Jordan Miller right now. I'm just trying to 776 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,760 get somebody that can get to the basket if. 777 00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:10,679 Speaker 1: We need a bucket when we when the Clippers need 778 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,760 a bucket specifically in that moment. Yeah, maybe he'll get 779 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,599 to the line, but he's probably gonna get to the rim. 780 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:24,079 Like that's yeah, I'm well, isn't uh Cam Christie's traveling? 781 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:34,280 Is he traveling with the clips for this game? Okay, yeah, 782 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,280 he'll be joining them. Yeah, no, I don't know. But 783 00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,599 that's how difficult this matchup feels. Is that we're talking 784 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,039 about like, hey, maybe you through Kim Christy. 785 00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,519 Speaker 2: It's really bad on paper? 786 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: Is really? It is? Not? Don't This one's not for 787 00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:54,559 the box score watchers. Do we have any other points 788 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:57,079 we want to bring up before we let people before 789 00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,000 we pick our players of the game, because I don't 790 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,039 know they do. They do a lot of stuff. Well, yeah, 791 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,519 people are out. Terrence Man's out, Kawhi's out, Kobe's aut 792 00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:12,119 Like that's there's no real change to the danger report. 793 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Clippers are gonna have to have it. 794 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,920 You're not winning this game if you're not playing at 795 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,519 least your B plus game. I guess a team like Memphis. 796 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,119 Speaker 1: I mean it'd be there. This would be the Clippers 797 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:33,360 best win of the season. I think pretty firmly. The 798 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,039 Nuggets wins look worse than worse as the Nuggets keep playing, 799 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,920 But this would, I think kind of maybe a head 800 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,760 and shoulders be the Clippers best win of the season. 801 00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:48,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think you're right, because the wins over 802 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,480 the Golden State Warriors aren't looking as good either right now. 803 00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: Bastards. Yeah, I don't know. So who will will is 804 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,599 not here to pick his player of the game. We 805 00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:02,800 picked Kevin Porter Junior for him in an effort to 806 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,400 light a fire under the young man. Didn't really work 807 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960 out Hot and cold. Let's just say let's call it 808 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:10,480 hot and cold. I'm sure we'll be yelled at for that. 809 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,320 Who is William picking for the player of the game 810 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,239 for this game against Memphis? 811 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 2: I think Will has I think Will has Mobamba for 812 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,159 this game. 813 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,559 Speaker 1: Get that productive nine minute shift, five boards, two points 814 00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:32,719 plus plus side. 815 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 2: With Memphis calls for big Mobamba. 816 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's fair. Who is your pick for player 817 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,440 of the game, And if you're new to the show, 818 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,440 we cannot We are not allowed to pick James Harden, 819 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,880 Norm Power of Viatza Zubots because we would just rotate 820 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,599 between those three guys every game. 821 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,639 Speaker 2: I will go with I picked him recently, but I 822 00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,119 still like him. You know what I'm gonna go. I'm 823 00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,400 gonna go. But hey, I'm gonna gono. 824 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: Three threes and good defense, So you're going, Nico, I 825 00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:21,119 gotta go done, man, This is this is a game 826 00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:25,920 to showcase just how good he is defensively. I don't 827 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,360 care if he goes one of four from three. If 828 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,280 he plays good defense against Joah w and they're matched 829 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,440 up and he holds them to below his averages, I'm 830 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,199 happy with it. Then it's on everybody else to do 831 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,599 their job. But I would be I would be a 832 00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,360 static with them. 833 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of terrified right now. 834 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:49,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel very good. I'm it's gonna be interesting. 835 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,320 That about wraps things up for this episode of Clips 836 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,719 in Dip. If there should be with all the smoke 837 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,519 going towards Kawhi Leonard's return, if there is any news 838 00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:06,119 in regards to it, we will be live. Perhaps I 839 00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,639 will be annoying my family by being live during a 840 00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:12,320 special moment. I don't know. The next injury report will 841 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,880 come out for those of you who look for those things. 842 00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:19,440 On the twenty sixth will be I believe the next 843 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,119 injury report for the Clippers ahead of their matchup with 844 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,599 the Warriors on the twenty seventh. We'll have content for you. 845 00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,079 Reviews and subscriptions really help us out. If you'd like 846 00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,440 to review us wherever you listen to podcasts, we would. 847 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,880 We need it, We appreciate it. If you saw the 848 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,360 power go out last stream, that's what happens when you 849 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,519 don't give us reviews. I can't pay my bills. I 850 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,159 have a real job. It's not that big a deal, 851 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,280 but we would appreciate them. You can find us on 852 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,559 YouTube at YouTube dot complish at Clippers podcast Adam. One 853 00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:56,519 positive thing after we just maybe did the opposite for 854 00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,119 the game preview against the Grizzies. One positive thing to 855 00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:04,079 send these listeners out on one of the big holiday weeks. 856 00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,559 Speaker 2: I mean, even if the Clippers lose, there's still sixteen 857 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:12,199 and fourteen and Kawhi might be back on Friday. 858 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: Hey, I'll take it. We should all take that. That's 859 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:15,480 not bad. 860 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,559 Speaker 2: If the Lakers can beat Memphis, the Clippers can beat Memphis. 861 00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:24,119 Speaker 1: Come on, I love it all. All the transit and 862 00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:29,119 property logic is working here. We're feeling good. We will 863 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,000 have maybe we'll have a post game for you tomorrow. 864 00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:32,840 I'll see where I'm at on that. I did pay 865 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,840 my light bill, so the power's back on. Thank you 866 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,559 everyone for hanging out. Yeah, let's hope we let's get 867 00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:41,840 through this holiday. Let's get through this game in Memphis. 868 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,840 And here's to Kawhi returning hopefully on Friday. We will 869 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,360 have any any news coming from that will have some 870 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,760 content for you. Thank you for hanging out, and as always, 871 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,639 let's go clips