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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to The Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Tuesday edition of our program. We are live

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<v Speaker 1>on tape back in the saddle here in the garage

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<v Speaker 1>after some time off my last vacation week of the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you did enjoy the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. It's always kind of fun to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and cherry pick some of those interviews. But we

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<v Speaker 1>were back at it, and while I was gone, I

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<v Speaker 1>was up at Saratoga Racetrack with friends and family. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about that coming up a little bit later

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<v Speaker 1>on Great Place you Gotta go if you're a racing fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course it happened during the Olympics the second week,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we weren't at the racetrack. Honestly, we spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time. We rented a house or eight

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<v Speaker 1>of us in Airbnb, and we spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time watching the Olympics, both live and what they call

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<v Speaker 1>the encore presentations. So we had a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>and cheering on. You know, the locals. You know, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys in my group were from Louisville, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were appreciative of the fact that UK athletes current

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<v Speaker 1>and former. We're racking of gold medals and there were

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<v Speaker 1>people there with Louisville connections winning medals, so that really

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<v Speaker 1>made it a lot more fun as well. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course you can't knock the basketball, I mean, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>think it belongs in the Olympics or not. It was spectacular,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Steph Curry of course. But right now there are

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<v Speaker 1>some controversies that are following the games, including Jordan Schilds.

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<v Speaker 1>She has to return her bronze medal. USA Gymnastics appealed

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like she got hosed.

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<v Speaker 2>But the appeal was overturned.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a question about a score, and I'll try

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<v Speaker 1>to boil it down for you as best I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord knows, I don't know much about it. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a question about scoring, you have one minute

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<v Speaker 1>to make that known to judges. There is a protocol

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<v Speaker 1>and you have one minute now. According to the powers

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<v Speaker 1>that be, the decision came four seconds too late, four

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<v Speaker 1>seconds beyond the time limit for scoring inquiries. The US

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<v Speaker 1>says it has video evidence that the inquiry became became

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen seconds prior to the deadline, so it's been a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an appeal the USA won it and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Court of Arbitration voided the appeal. So now they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying you got to give the medal back, and the

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<v Speaker 1>USA says, we will fight this to the very very

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<v Speaker 1>and she has another medal, but she wants this one,

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<v Speaker 1>and from what you can tell, earned this one. The

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<v Speaker 1>USA says it will go as far as it can

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<v Speaker 1>to keep her from having to give that medal back.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay tuned for that. If you're interested in the gymnastics.

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<v Speaker 1>What's next for Australia's tremendous, sarcastically break dancer. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you like it or not? Does it belong in the Olympics. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make the argument that it's athletic, that it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to do properly, and that the athletes train,

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<v Speaker 1>or that the dancers train like athletes, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that any activity that needs a judge should not

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<v Speaker 1>be called a sport, okay, But what about boxing? What

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<v Speaker 1>about gymnastics? What about synchronized swimming? Nobody complains about that,

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<v Speaker 1>And what about the diving, you know, which is gymnastics

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<v Speaker 1>going into the water. So you know they've had ballroom

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<v Speaker 1>dancing before. I'm not sure why they do this. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is they added this and dropped baseball, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an international sport, and basketball something basketball doesn't belong. Ours

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<v Speaker 1>about golf being in the Olympics, those are all international sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We taught the world basketball, there's no question about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we taught the world baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>But the world has.

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<v Speaker 1>Caught up with us, or at least is challenging us.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a very difficult run for men's basketball

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<v Speaker 1>to win the gold break dancing, you know, it is incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no question about that. Some of the things these

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<v Speaker 1>folks do. But the controversy revolves around a woman from Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>She's thirty six, has a PhD. Her name is Rachel Gunn.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes by b Girl Ray gun She's a college

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<v Speaker 1>professor and she's now famous, but not for how good

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<v Speaker 1>she is, but for how terrible she was compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the women that she was competing against, who were half

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<v Speaker 1>her age. Swept out of a round robin stage, did

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<v Speaker 1>not score a single point, and her performance has been

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<v Speaker 1>called embarrassing. And you've got to wonder how did she

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<v Speaker 1>even get that bar in this competition? And if you're Australian,

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<v Speaker 1>are you embarrassed by this. She said, I was never

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<v Speaker 1>going to beat these girls and what they do best

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<v Speaker 1>their power moves. What I bring is creativity. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>now here's my standard. And I'm sixty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching what she's doing, and I'm thinking, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, I could do that, and forgive my grammar.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't pass the me test, if she's not

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<v Speaker 1>better than me, she shouldn't be out there. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there are things she can do that I can,

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<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, she in no way even

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<v Speaker 1>came close to what her competitors were doing. It just

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like she was making a mockery of what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And I'm talking more about breakdancing than I

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought I would on this show. But this, again

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<v Speaker 1>is residue from the Olympics, So that's out there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The discussion is out there as well. Next games are

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. Back in LA in twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>way different from nineteen eighty four. Back then the city

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<v Speaker 1>had seven point nine million. Now LA has nine point

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<v Speaker 1>seven million, and of course a gazillion people are coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the Olympics. The folks who run the LA Games

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<v Speaker 1>say they're studying what happened in Paris looking for improvements. Naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>Paris made ambitious pledges about sustainability and clean up of

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<v Speaker 1>the River Seine. Sustainability meaning if you had to build anything,

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<v Speaker 1>does it fall into disrepaarity you keep using it because

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<v Speaker 1>in Rio a lot of the sites where they built

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<v Speaker 1>are now overgrown with weeds. In Paris they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>clean up the river. You know that story by now,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the swimmers got sick afterwards they're still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn you know, if it was because of the pollution,

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<v Speaker 1>come on now. But La has got different issues of

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<v Speaker 1>course with water. But they claim that they will have

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<v Speaker 1>a car free Olympics, meaning if you go to the games,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the mayor, you will have to take the

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<v Speaker 1>bus to the events. He said, we're a car dependent city,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're going to attend any of the sports venues,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to take public transportation. That's ambitious,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also a great move. They're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>more than three thousand buses from across the country to

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<v Speaker 1>help in that endeavor, and they're going to hope for

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<v Speaker 1>more help from eligible workers remote eligible workers to reduce traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>So LA's got a big job ahead of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty four the Olympics made money because then

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<v Speaker 1>as they are now, they're not gonna build anything. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use the UCLA campus for the Olympic village. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use Sofi Stadium, of course, which has hosted the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl for crying in Atlanta's hosted Taylor Swift. Surely

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<v Speaker 1>he can handle the Olympics opening ceremony. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>swimming events BMX racing in the San Fernando Valley, Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades between Santa Monica and Malibu for golf, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about water long beach triathlon and marathon swimming

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<v Speaker 1>that area as according to the AP, a quote mixed

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<v Speaker 1>history on water cleanliness, but lately the ocean waters there

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<v Speaker 1>have scored high when it comes to cleaning. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be really ambitious, but they got the head start.

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<v Speaker 2>On it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna come back and talk Kentucky football,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit later on Jeff Piicor and Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Gersham will join us here in the garage. Jeff is

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<v Speaker 1>shooting for a preseason special on SEC football and UK

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<v Speaker 1>football and the Big Blue Insider will be featured. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that here in the garage, and we'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about the SEC on ABC after the break. You've already

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<v Speaker 1>heard some of the music and it has been underwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>according to the folks who weigh in on such things.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we'll talk a lot more football, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>our number two with Jeff and Aaron Gershon of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cats Balls, but we'll hear from the Football Cats next.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue and Sider coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes. Well here from the Football Wildcats. They

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmaged on Saturday, and of course I wasn't Darrows out

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<v Speaker 1>of town, but generally the media we don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>go anyway. But we'll hear from the Cats and their coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>And now number two, as I mentioned, we'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Picorrel and Aaron Gershan Here in the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk a lot of Kentucky football.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to talk about the SEC on ABC

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<v Speaker 1>because Jeff now, the sports director of WTVQABC thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>is preparing pregame programming for the upcoming season. Thing I

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<v Speaker 1>used to have to do at Thede KYT. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>handed off the mantle to him and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that coming up. While I was gone, Mark Stoops spoke

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time about the penalties handed down before,

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<v Speaker 1>right before I left on my vacation, where Kentucky has

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<v Speaker 1>to vacate ten wins and now UK fans are finding

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<v Speaker 1>out what it feels like that other schools have got

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that vacating wins. Of course, uove La

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<v Speaker 1>had to take down a banner. UK fans got a

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<v Speaker 1>big kick out of that. I personally never believed that

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<v Speaker 1>the penalty fit the crime on that, but that's a

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<v Speaker 1>different issue. I understand why Kentucky is vacating wins because

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<v Speaker 1>the guys who were involved, the eight players of the

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<v Speaker 1>eleven who played in games while they were being paid

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<v Speaker 1>for work they didn't do by rule that made them ineligible.

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<v Speaker 1>And people like to say, well, now with nil, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that wouldn't be. Yeah, it would have been because

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<v Speaker 1>clocking in and accepting money for work you don't do,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at a university which involves federal funding.

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<v Speaker 2>That's serious stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have an NIL deal where a company or

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<v Speaker 1>an employer a booster, whatever you want to call him,

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<v Speaker 2>And I know these are the times.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in now they say everything's legal now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>no it's not, but much much more of it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is the Kentucky athletes will help

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody at the Med Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Did wrong, got away with it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>UK says it's internal investigation turned it up. Bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>is they got caught. They had to pay the price.

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<v Speaker 1>And you remember now Chris Rodriguez sat for four games.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned this when this first came out, that

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<v Speaker 1>people were blazing away at Mitch Barnhardt for dragging his

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<v Speaker 1>feet on nil And I don't know that he did

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<v Speaker 1>or he didn't, but I know this on a panel

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<v Speaker 1>discussion show that I did on k ET with Mitch.

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<v Speaker 1>We were both guests. He did a lot more talking

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<v Speaker 1>than I did, thankfully because obviously he had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to deal with. But his bottom line was, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do everything right so we don't come back

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<v Speaker 1>and have to answer for things after the fact. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what's going on. And UK is not the

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<v Speaker 1>only school where this has happened. I don't know of

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<v Speaker 1>any other schools that the vacate wins. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>know that there was there have been some schools who

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<v Speaker 1>have been penalized because in the early stages of NIL,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of Kentucky when it comes to football, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. Some are, but for the most part, an

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming majority of college athletic programs lose money. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are programs unlike UK that are supported at least in

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<v Speaker 1>some part with tax dollars. Reminder, UK is athletic budget,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what one hundred and fifty million or something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all independent of tax dollars. People used to love

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<v Speaker 1>to see my tax dollars are paying for bad football. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying form with your tickets, but you're not paying

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<v Speaker 1>form of tax dollars. So there's a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>being thrown around out there, but most of it is

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<v Speaker 1>being spent and not a lot of it is coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>So any school, I think the last count I heard

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<v Speaker 1>this is old for like forty schools of the three

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<v Speaker 1>is U of l IS and other than that, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I haven't seen numbers lately. So anyway, Stoops

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it, and we'll hear more about that coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in our number two. Also, as I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>ABC music that will be used in some way on

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<v Speaker 1>SEC football comes out there calling it the anthem. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>this looks like a promo and people are comparing it

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<v Speaker 1>and complaining based on what CBS used to use. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you'll recognize this music. This was the CBS music. If

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the SEC on CBS and WKYT here in

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<v Speaker 1>town or wherever, that's the music that brought you into

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<v Speaker 1>the ballgame. So it was music that made you feel

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<v Speaker 1>good because you knew you were about to watch Uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Vern and Gary Danielson and whatever teams you wanted to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>So when a different network takes over ESPN, which you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see at times on ABC and you'll see every week

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<v Speaker 1>on ABC, you know, they come up with their own music.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I'm hearing, though, is what I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a promotional campaign that you'll see a lot, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the columns described it. Here's the music we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be getting sick of. But I don't believe this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to hear going into ballgames. Probably some

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<v Speaker 1>of the musical elements, yes, but it can't be. It

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<v Speaker 1>just can't be what they're going to use. Because well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't heard a listen for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the SEC.

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<v Speaker 4>Every walk is a parade, every song is symphony, Every

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday is a celebration, every game a spectacle.

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<v Speaker 3>The SEC takes us into the wild and it always

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<v Speaker 3>feels like home.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the SEC on ABC, and this is how

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<v Speaker 4>it's done.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's that's well done.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've tried to coin a new phrase and they're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that.

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<v Speaker 2>It overtakes, It just means more in popularity. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you there was a room full of people

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around throwing ideas and hoping that the one would stick.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what they came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you imagine going into a ballgame and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build up hype and emotion and reach into people

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<v Speaker 1>and pull their emotions out of them with that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we're criticizing or judging it in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way. I want to hear the music they run

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<v Speaker 1>going into and up to kickoff, or coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of breaks, that kind of thing. You know ESPN's

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<v Speaker 1>got down N that has become iconic. I worked for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while for IMG and they wrote their own

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<v Speaker 1>music that they have coming in and out of breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't work, in my opinion, doesn't work. They

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<v Speaker 1>firmly believed it would take over as another version of

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't. I don't care how many times you

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<v Speaker 1>play it. It didn't work. So I'm curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>what ABC and ESPN come up with. And I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you they are sparing no dollars. They will pay top dollary.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the guy who wrote the sec theme

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<v Speaker 1>song as a composer from New York and they have

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<v Speaker 1>been using that music. It's nineteen eighty seven, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is kind of cool. And if you recall back

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<v Speaker 1>during the Final Four, we did a commentary on One

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<v Speaker 1>Shining Moment. I saw the story on the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote One Shining Moment. It was actually written I think

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<v Speaker 1>for the Super Bowl. They never got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>use it, and somebody suggested they reposition it, repurpose it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they use it on the Final Four. And I

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<v Speaker 1>brought it up because every year now it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>there are complaints that people try to become relevant, but

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<v Speaker 1>they need to stop showing that. They need to do

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<v Speaker 1>away with One Shining Moment. It's old, it's tired of stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>My suggestion has been, don't watch it if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Most of us ere e least many of

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<v Speaker 1>us love it. And again it always runs at like

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<v Speaker 1>twelve forty five am on the night of the championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you don't like it, go to bed, turn

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<v Speaker 1>your TV off and go to bed. But music matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really really want to see you. And like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Jeff Picrow is going to be here a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later on, maybe he can shed more light

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<v Speaker 1>on that. All right, Coming up next stoops in the Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 1>on the scrimmage, and more here on six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>hour number two, Jeff Pikorro Aaron Gersham will join me

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<v Speaker 1>here in the garage and we'll talk Kentucky football. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing that Jeff got a chance to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the scrimmage on Saturday. He often does, but we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>the UK Football Network, although now also sports director at WTVQ,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, maybe they decided to not let him

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<v Speaker 1>in because he's in regular media along with Aaron of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cash Boss. We'll find out coming up at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the hour, but we will find out more

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<v Speaker 1>about the scrimmage. Of course, I was on vacation and

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance to see it or hear from the coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's been a lot of media coverage since then,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was interested in some of the comments that

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of the players made After the scrimmage was over,

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<v Speaker 1>and JJ Weaver came out and spoke for the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about the fact that he is basically going

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy this senior year by just setting himself free

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<v Speaker 1>and not putting any pressure on himself except for like

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way. But he just wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to play fast and not worry about things. And

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<v Speaker 1>with that said, he was asked, what do you tell

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<v Speaker 1>the young people on the defensive side of the football

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<v Speaker 1>about just how to execute and how to compete?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Just be competitive?

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<v Speaker 5>Show coach White, show coach US officers of coordinated what

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<v Speaker 5>y'all can do? Just be competitive, play fast, play physical,

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<v Speaker 5>everything that's gonna take place. If you messed up, at

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<v Speaker 5>least you did it fast. Only the first scrimmage, so

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<v Speaker 5>next week we actually erase the names and put the

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<v Speaker 5>names on the boards.

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<v Speaker 1>You're only as good as your last scrimmage. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say the same about practices. If he keeps screwing up

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<v Speaker 1>the same drill, you're gonna get that rep.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the defense usually outshines the offense and the first

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage because their execution levels are different. But the next time,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems every year the offense gets a leg up

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<v Speaker 1>on the defense. But as Weaver said, the key is

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<v Speaker 1>make a mistake at full speed. If you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>screw up, make it at full speed, because at least

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and I'm kind of paraphrasing here, you show

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<v Speaker 1>the commitment you have to trying to make the right

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<v Speaker 1>play and do the right thing. So make a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>at top speed. If you're gonna make one at all, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>at least you look better, right brock Vandergriff came out

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<v Speaker 1>and spoke for the offense, and of course one of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions he answered was about the offensive line, and

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<v Speaker 1>the word was the old line look pretty good. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're never going to air a quarterback come out of

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<v Speaker 1>a scrimmage, a practice, a drill, a dinner party and

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<v Speaker 1>speak poorly of the offensive line. Those guys have got

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<v Speaker 1>to be his best friend. But he did go a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit deeper when people asked him about how the

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<v Speaker 1>old line has been doing, not just Saturday, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the camp in general.

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<v Speaker 3>They've had a good fall camp.

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<v Speaker 6>The best thing with O line is all just chemistry

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff and making sure they're working together on some

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<v Speaker 6>of the different stuff that the D line brings and

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<v Speaker 6>brings on us and make sure they're on the same page.

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<v Speaker 6>So just building that chemistry with them has been great

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<v Speaker 6>with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach Wolf spin on them. That's good.

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<v Speaker 6>And the O line's been having a good fall camp

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<v Speaker 6>and we're looking forward to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Season with them.

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<v Speaker 1>By all accounts, they should be better. This offense should

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<v Speaker 1>be a little less complicated in terms of verbiage and

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<v Speaker 1>ability to get plays off and things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>also the helmet comes, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio and the helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be a big deal this year throughout

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<v Speaker 1>college football. There will be a lot said, written and

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<v Speaker 1>spoken about it, and it's gonna take some getting used to.

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<v Speaker 1>They've had it in the pros for a while now,

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<v Speaker 1>but Rock Vandergriff talked about the helmet come and just

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<v Speaker 1>getting used to that and how it's gonna make his

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<v Speaker 6>I can get the whole play whatever, I only gonna have

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<v Speaker 6>to look to the sideline, So I'm getting it to

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<v Speaker 6>the O line to play, and I can go ahead

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<v Speaker 6>and do my pre snap whatever my little routine is

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<v Speaker 6>whatever one high two high man's own blitz coming yes

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<v Speaker 6>or no, stuff like that, and being able to see

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<v Speaker 6>that I don't even have to get my eyes to

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<v Speaker 6>the sideline. Those are basically just for the skill guys,

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<v Speaker 6>so I hear it, bam, tell them to play, and

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<v Speaker 6>it just gives me a lot more extra time into

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<v Speaker 6>line while other guys are getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Lined up and stuff. And then if we have.

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<v Speaker 6>Any like cans or checks plays, obviously it cuts out

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<v Speaker 3>Think fifteen or sixteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 6>But if we get it in and we get on

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<v Speaker 6>the ball before that, then obviously being able to have

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<v Speaker 3>So that's really good.

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<v Speaker 6>But at the end of the day, I got to

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<v Speaker 6>know the checks and the cans and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 6>for if it's after fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what stuck out to me, jumped out really from

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<v Speaker 1>the call, and it was clear in the Rich Skangarillo

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<v Speaker 1>era that one year there wasn't a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>that went on, And there might have been things like

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<v Speaker 1>that going on when Devin Leary was the quarterback last

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<v Speaker 1>year under Liam Cohen, and maybe there was was Skangarello,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just seemed like the Scangorello offense dragged so

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<v Speaker 1>much and it was so mired in burbage that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a chance to do much of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always go back to something that Tom Leech would

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<v Speaker 1>would bring up that Rich Brooks talked about with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to Andre Woodson. As Andre developed as a quarterback, he went,

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<v Speaker 1>if you we recall as a starter sophomore year and

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<v Speaker 1>really through maybe the middle of his junior year, he

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<v Speaker 1>would come to the line and then look to the

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<v Speaker 1>sideline to Randy Sanders, the offensive coordinator, quarterbacks coach, and

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<v Speaker 1>early in his stay Andrea, because I'm on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I could see him, eyes bugging out of

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<v Speaker 1>his head, nervous, didn't want to make a mistake, short

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<v Speaker 1>on confidence. But the more he worked and the harder

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<v Speaker 1>he worked, the better he got at it. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it works with great athletes. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>about midway through the six year, remember that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first Music City Bowl year. I could tell that Andrea

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<v Speaker 1>was more relaxed, body language, expression on his face, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would come to the line and look to the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>not looking for help desperately, but just checking to make sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe looking for a suggestion. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>went back to what rich Brooks said about him. Andrea

449
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<v Speaker 1>became so good. He said, and not necessarily checking us

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<v Speaker 1>into a good play, but getting us out of a

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<v Speaker 1>bad play. You know, you might check to a play

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<v Speaker 1>that gets you a couple of yards, moves the chains

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but what it does also do is

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<v Speaker 1>keep you from going backwards, getting off schedule, negative yardage,

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<v Speaker 1>and just keeps things going. And Andre Woodson became really

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<v Speaker 1>good at that. You didn't get a chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>much of that really the last couple of years. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much will Levis did. Didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to, but I'm sure he did. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell if you're down there, if you're watching TV

461
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<v Speaker 1>for listening to the radio, oftentimes you'll hear them barking

462
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<v Speaker 1>out signals sometimes yell check, check, or things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I always liked during the.

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<v Speaker 1>Air raid was watching Tim Couch and then Dusty Bonner

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<v Speaker 1>and to a degree Jarrel Lorenzen making eye contact. Every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then I see Dusty drop a hand down

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<v Speaker 1>behind the centers rear end and kind of wiggle it

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, whatever receiver was on the outside, but

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of nod or acknowledge it, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>do something fun. But when they can go to the

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<v Speaker 1>line as Vandergiff said, with enough time and knowledge to

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<v Speaker 1>read the defense and then rattle off what he wants

473
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<v Speaker 1>him to do, that's going to be a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every quarterback is good at that, As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Woodson became good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>No idea about.

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Leary because I don't know what he was dealing with,

478
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<v Speaker 1>but it just seemed like there was too much confusion

479
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<v Speaker 1>at times offensively, and this is Liam Cohen's offense, which

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<v Speaker 1>works so well with Will Levis.

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<v Speaker 2>That one year.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing to remember is Skangarello subtracted the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback run forbid it basically from will Levis, So not

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<v Speaker 1>only was it not part of the game plan, he

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<v Speaker 1>was encouraged to stay in the pocket way too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, it was obvious in hindsight us got hurt

487
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<v Speaker 1>too much, and most of it came, ironically enough, from

488
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<v Speaker 1>not running the football but padding the football and getting

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<v Speaker 1>clocked when he was in the pocket. VANDERGRIFFI has said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically, and I'm paraphrasing, he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be known as a running quarterback. Who doesn't, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every quarterback in college ball wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to sling the football, get the opportunity, get the

494
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<v Speaker 1>rip as a guy who can throw the football, and

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<v Speaker 1>quote un what make all the throws? Why, well, it's

496
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<v Speaker 1>because what the scouts want to hear and see. If

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<v Speaker 1>you tag running quarterback on a guy, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall down some draft boards. But Vandergriff, and what I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in practice, is a thrower but can also run.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, the most important thing is run away from trouble. Yeah,

501
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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a quarterback running a game plan like there

502
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<v Speaker 1>was with Levis against Louisville to a two and four touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>But I believe Vandergriff can make the throw.

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<v Speaker 2>And run the football all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, we'll share some vacation experience a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later. Jeff Pecorrel, Aaron Gershaane. I want to come

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<v Speaker 1>on a Big Loon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big Blue Insider. Coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes an hour number two Jeff Picaorrel and Aaron

510
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 1>gershan right here in the garage. Aaron's never been here.

511
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<v Speaker 1>Aaron's been on the show many many times, and in

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<v Speaker 1>fact he will join me along with Billy Rutledge coming

513
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 1>up in a couple of weeks when the Mark Stoop

514
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<v Speaker 1>Show cranks up, and then of course we'll have BBN

515
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<v Speaker 1>Radio and the live version statewide of The Big Blue Insiders.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be talking Aaron each week on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is joining Jeff here and I talked earlier

518
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<v Speaker 1>about this, Jeff actually shooting a feature story. Yeah, the

519
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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider is going to be featured on a

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<v Speaker 1>preseason pregame football show on ABC thirty six. ABC, of course,

521
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>is now the home for SEC football. It's gonna be weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We played the new anthem for you. I guess that's

523
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<v Speaker 1>how they're starting to broadcast that. You know, they release

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<v Speaker 1>incidents their anthem. I just don't think you're going to

525
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<v Speaker 1>start a show with that kind of low key voiceover.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we'll all find out. I guess maybe Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>can shed some light on us. So anyhow, they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in just a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoyed the best of The Big Blue Insider. I have

531
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<v Speaker 1>a good time putting those together. You know, I know

532
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>some people aren't crazy about it when I hear reruns,

533
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>but when we can go back and pull out some

534
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 1>of the best interviews we've done over the last several months.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of fun for me and I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed them as well. And I saw some retweets, which

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate on Twitter when we announce each night what's

538
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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the show. I was on vacation.

539
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<v Speaker 1>I went up to Saratoga again with my brother and

540
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<v Speaker 1>some friends. This was the fourth year we've done this

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<v Speaker 1>trip and it is a lot of fun. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a horse racing fan, I highly highly recommend it. I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you it is a commitment if you're going

544
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<v Speaker 1>to drive, especially and if it gives you fly. Of

545
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<v Speaker 1>course there's expense, but it's a about a twelve thirteen

546
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>hour drive. We break it up and I recommend this

547
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>being the summertime, especially if you're a baseball fan. Three

548
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<v Speaker 1>to four years we stopped and saw baseball. We have

549
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>seen games in Philadelphia. We saw a minor league game

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<v Speaker 1>in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, where one of my friend's daughter lives,

551
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<v Speaker 1>and the one year we stopped to visit her, but

552
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<v Speaker 1>there was no game. This team was out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at a Class A team, maybe for the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Nationals. This year we stopped in Cleveland and got

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<v Speaker 1>an airbnb.

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<v Speaker 2>Which are great if you get the right one, as.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and unfortunately Hurricane Debbie messed with us. We

558
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<v Speaker 1>got a great airbnb two blocks from the Guardians Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>We could see the lights to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ballpark right through our window, and we walked over in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a sprinkle, but we knew there

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<v Speaker 1>was rain on the way, but there also appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be a win there between fronts where they might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get the game in. So we go into

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<v Speaker 1>the ballpark beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd not been there, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It was absolutely what I had hoped it would be,

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<v Speaker 1>with a downtown vista behind centerfield wall. But the game

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start on time. It didn't start and didn't start,

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<v Speaker 1>and two hours later they said the game has been

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<v Speaker 1>postponed and the next day they were going to play

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<v Speaker 1>a doubleheader, which did us no good because that was

573
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<v Speaker 1>a travel day for us. So we go off to

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant to grab a bite, and would you know,

575
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<v Speaker 1>while we're at the restaurant, the rain stops and might

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<v Speaker 1>have been that might have been the window we are expecting,

577
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<v Speaker 1>but we wondered maybe because the game would have pushed

578
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<v Speaker 1>through midnight, they weren't going to play so anyhow, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is available to you depending on what route you take,

580
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<v Speaker 1>and of course we went up through northern Ohio and

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<v Speaker 1>then over into New York State. Saratoga is beautiful. It's

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<v Speaker 1>different than Keenland, and people who have been to both

583
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<v Speaker 1>tell me they prefer Keenland, but Saratoga is just a

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous facility and different from Keenland in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest way is that basically the area for

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<v Speaker 1>the fans and I'm not talking about the apron down

587
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<v Speaker 1>by the track. If you don't want to sit there,

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<v Speaker 1>you sit. And what's basically a picnic area near Union Street,

589
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<v Speaker 1>which is where the track is located, and it backs

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<v Speaker 1>up to the walkway that leads from the barns on

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<v Speaker 1>the backside all the way around the track, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way around the far turn into the paddock, which is

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<v Speaker 1>huge where they saddle the horses and the horses stalls

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<v Speaker 1>are way back away from the fans, but there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of room to walk them when they're saddled, and for

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<v Speaker 1>fans to get up to the fence, not unlike the

597
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<v Speaker 1>hedge at Keenland and see the horse as they walk

598
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<v Speaker 1>out onto the track. But in that area shy of

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<v Speaker 1>the walkway are picnic tables and stands with monitors and

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<v Speaker 1>speakers for the PA. There are booths where you can buy,

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00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 1>of course food and cigars and merch and photographs. There

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<v Speaker 1>are at least a couple, and one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>owned and operated by a man named Richard Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, no relation.

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<v Speaker 1>I met the guy, and my family name going back

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<v Speaker 1>to Italy as an E on the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if anybody's last name is Gabriel, like Roman Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 1>or who's the wide receiver for the Raiders a couple

609
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<v Speaker 1>of years ago. Anyway, they if it's if the name

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<v Speaker 1>is Gabriel, I know they're not related to us because

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<v Speaker 1>our name has an E on the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>which my father dropped be more American. But it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>and we set up our collapsible chairs around the picnic table,

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<v Speaker 1>the lunch you can bring in, you can bring in

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<v Speaker 1>anything but glass, and just made a day of it

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<v Speaker 1>or several days of it. Now, we got there on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday evening, so we went to the track on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's another cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to camp out like we did, not

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<v Speaker 1>camp out, but set up for the picnic area. They

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<v Speaker 1>allow you the gates don't open until eleven thirty, but

622
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<v Speaker 1>they allow you to come in, grab a spot, reserve

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<v Speaker 1>a picnic table if you can get one, and set

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<v Speaker 1>up your stuff, set up your cooler, set up your chairs, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then leave. And there are people there to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you don't just sit there the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you can get there at seven am and

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<v Speaker 1>there is a line down the street to do this

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<v Speaker 1>and people rush in like it's open air seating at

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<v Speaker 1>a concert and set up, which we did, some of

631
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<v Speaker 1>us did. I did, as there were volunteers who did that,

632
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 1>and then we come back at eleven thirty when the

633
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 1>gates open. So it's a great set up up and

634
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of fun. We started on Thursday. We

635
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>lost a day on Friday because it was raining so

636
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>hard by the end of Thursday and the forecast was terrible,

637
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, they were taking races off the

638
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>turf and all this, and they decided we can't safely

639
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 1>race on Friday, and why should we even staff the

640
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>track when it's going to drive patrons away. There still

641
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 1>would have been people there, but the track shut down

642
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 1>and in one newspaper estimate, NIRA New York Racing Association

643
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>lost between fifteen and twenty million dollars in betting handle

644
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 1>that day because sarah Toga was not open. But we

645
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>went back Saturday Sunday. Whether it was wonderful. I made

646
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of money, believe it or not. I

647
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit.

648
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 2>On Thursday, roasted.

649
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, I mean got crushed, came back and won

650
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>almost all of it back on Sundays.

651
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 2>That was great.

652
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>My brother hit a big race, big race, so good

653
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for him and wonderful time. So I recommend Saratoga. And

654
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 1>by the way, we got a chance to go over

655
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 1>to Kenny mcpeak's. Barney invited us to come over. He

656
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 1>wasn't feeling well, so he wasn't there that morning, but

657
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 1>we got a chance to see Torpedo Anna. Now, when

658
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I was hanging out by her stall, she had her

659
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>back to us, so you saw those hindquarters. But what

660
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>those were was a reminder of why she's so good.

661
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Powerful hind quarters, big horse, and she'd run against the

662
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 1>boys in the Haskell.

663
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 2>So we're rooting for her. And I was with some

664
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Speaker 2>folks who had never done that. Two of my friends

665
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>are owners.

666
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>They were together on the Thracky Queen, a horse that

667
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>ran what was it eight years ago in the Breeders'

668
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Cup here and I think got third.

669
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.559
<v Speaker 2>But then they've got other horses.

670
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>But some of the other folks had never been around

671
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the backside, so that was pretty cool. They got to

672
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>see the horses in the barn at a respectful distance,

673
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and then we went over what they call the Oklahoma Track,

674
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 1>which is a training track across the street from the

675
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 1>main track, and just as we got there, it seemed

676
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like everybody. It was about eight am, and I guess

677
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the brake was over. I'm not sure what time they break.

678
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>They break I guess earlier than they do at Keenland,

679
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 1>But there was just a parade of horses coming out

680
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to train, and it was nice and cool and a

681
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 1>perfect morning, and we had a wonderful time at Saratoga.

682
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Highly recommend it at least once if you're a racing fan.

683
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Put that on your bucket list and check it off.

684
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>But be prepared if you don't sit in the grand stand,

685
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 1>and you can get tickets to the grand stand. Some

686
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of my friends did that, but be prepared for a

687
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>picnic if indeed, that's the way you're going to go.

688
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it's something you need to do if

689
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 1>you're a racing fan, and.

690
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of you already have.

691
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<v Speaker 1>All right, Ever, Number two is coming up next with

692
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Jefpicor and Aaron Gershaum live and in color on tape

693
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 1>right here in the garage and the Big moone Cider

694
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>six point thirty wlap. Welcome back to the Big Blue

695
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and Cider. I remember two of our show. As promised,

696
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we are here in the garage, live on tape and color.

697
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Biccorrel, Sports Director WTVQ. And of course this is

698
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>your third decade now, right, you got at least twenty

699
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.599
<v Speaker 1>years behind you on the UK radio network. And Aaron

700
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Gershawn just a callow child like comparison, but a veteran

701
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 1>of the UK beat with the Cats Bows. Now, but

702
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 1>how many years did you cover football and basketball for

703
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the Colonel?

704
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:37.920
<v Speaker 7>I didn't do Colonel.

705
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 8>I worked with you and then Sea of Blue, so

706
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 8>I went a route, yeah, and then obviously I worked

707
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 8>for you for three years. So yeah, this is this

708
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 8>gonna be year, I believe season six or seven on

709
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 8>the Wow twenty.

710
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 9>Four for me twenty twenty eighteen for me.

711
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 8>See you'll have me a little beata. It was a

712
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 8>good year to start though, well, you know, and.

713
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>The one thing it does is, no matter how many years,

714
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it gives you perspective. And I'm trying to wrap my

715
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>head around this one. Of course, once the season begins,

716
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>that'll help, but it just seems like, Jeff, every time

717
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 1>you start a season with a new coordinator, you know,

718
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>what kind of perspective does they give you?

719
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Right?

720
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 9>It's It's really interesting because the game has changed so

721
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 9>much from a player standpoint in the intricacies of how

722
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 9>plays are called, the different offenses and defenses that are run,

723
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 9>for instance. And this is something I asked Bush and

724
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 9>I asked Liam this as well. And I think the

725
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 9>biggest problem with Scangarello was the professional verbiage. And it

726
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 9>just took ten to fifteen seconds to call the play.

727
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 9>So I said, when I played back in the you know,

728
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 9>the early eighties, it was a pass. Play, was a

729
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 9>right zz past eighty six x corner. Okay, that's it.

730
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 9>That was the whole call. Eighty That meant it was

731
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.519
<v Speaker 9>a drop back pass and the line blocked that way.

732
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.559
<v Speaker 9>Fifties were different. Sixties or different series. Seventies was different

733
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 9>than eighty. Was this seventh step drop for the quarterback,

734
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 9>so Bill Ramsa would take the snap, take his regular

735
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 9>drop and turn and the the stuff I was the

736
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:19.119
<v Speaker 9>other words or what the pass play is Now it's range, flipper,

737
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 9>paramount packers, you know, algebra, waggle crazy, it's it just

738
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 9>takes foreffort. And I think that has changed, and I'm

739
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 9>really interested in seeing how much it helps. With the

740
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 9>microphones in the headset of the quarterback and the linebacker

741
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 9>like they do in the NFL, it's gonna be real

742
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 9>different because now there were times in years past where

743
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 9>they'd come to the sideline in the offense quarter What

744
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.159
<v Speaker 9>are you doing? He goes, well, that's huge, Collis. No,

745
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 9>I didn't. I called this because well, that's not how

746
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 9>it got to me.

747
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:53.320
<v Speaker 7>You know.

748
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 9>I saw, you know, they do the hand signals of

749
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 9>the He goes, yeah, they do.

750
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 7>They still are yeah, yeah.

751
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.119
<v Speaker 9>No, I saw a Nabisco. I did not see Lucy

752
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 9>from Charlie Brown.

753
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's like all right, they still was a fun signs. Yeah, okay,

754
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.440
<v Speaker 8>that's good. I was worried we were losing that in

755
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 8>college football.

756
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

757
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>No, you know, And I had a comment from Brock

758
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.679
<v Speaker 1>vandergriff on the show earlier, and he sounds erin this

759
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>this game after the scrimmaging. You might have been there too, Jeff.

760
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:26.039
<v Speaker 1>He sounds like he's not only confident in that communication system,

761
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but looking forward to using it.

762
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, I would agree one hundred percent. I just again,

763
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 8>I think it makes life so much easier. You have

764
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 8>the plays in your head, you have to run up

765
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 8>to the sideline, get all the hand signals, look at

766
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 8>every sign make sure you have it perfectly. It's right

767
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 8>in your head. You're listening and you're relaying it. And

768
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 8>also I think this offense too, the way they're going

769
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 8>to operate with a no huddle, there's gonna be less

770
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 8>not I wouldn't say less thinking, but just less more

771
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 8>going out and playing football.

772
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 7>I think that's something.

773
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.199
<v Speaker 8>The last two years of this offense with the verbigs,

774
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 8>it just got overly complicated. I mean it's twenty twenty two.

775
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 8>With rich Gangarillo, it was just a nightmare getting plays in.

776
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 8>And last year it just was much better. And I

777
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 8>think part of that was the quarterback and just being

778
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 8>used to a spread tempo compared to Pro style. But

779
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 8>I do think between the communication and the way they're

780
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 8>going to operate this offense, it'll be easier for that.

781
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Ken Spencer and our path from over in Louisville,

782
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but he was Jeff's predecessor as sports director at WTVQ

783
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a while back, one of the predecessors, and again he

784
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 1>played at more at stage, so I like to get

785
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>his opinion on things. And we talked about the changes

786
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 1>in offense through the years, and I said, well, at

787
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 1>least with Stoops, they haven't changed much in terms of style.

788
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 1>But as Kent pointed out, when you're changing verbiage, it

789
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 1>really puts a burden on players. And Jeff, you were

790
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 1>talking about verbage earlier and how they've kind of whittled

791
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 1>it down much more than you know. But Mark Stoops

792
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>talked about this at the kickoff lunch and you were

793
00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>both there. He made a conscious decision bringing in yet

794
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>another OC to use Hamden's verbiage and not ask him

795
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 1>to adjust. He has asked the players to adjust again,

796
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>but what does that mean to a player?

797
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 9>Well, I think the biggest difference is those last two

798
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 9>we've talked about. Skangarella and Liam both brought an NFL

799
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.519
<v Speaker 9>perspective to things, and so they're teaching it as they

800
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 9>would teach it to twenty three, twenty five, twenty eight

801
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:33.599
<v Speaker 9>year old guy. Now comes Bush Hampden, who's done his

802
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.960
<v Speaker 9>entire career basically it's been college football, correct, and I

803
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 9>think that he understands. Look, kiss, keep it simple, stupid.

804
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know that's the But to that end, would

805
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 1>it not have been simpler to keep the verbage they

806
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 1>already had, They already knew, they already somewhat comfortable.

807
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>With yes and no and stuff said, because we had

808
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 2>time to change.

809
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, but Brock never played under that. Well, that's true,

810
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 9>so it's a whole new qu Yeah, none of those

811
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 9>guys have remember every guys, and I just remember in

812
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 9>this I think is before your time. But Jared Lorenz

813
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 9>remember he had was it three different coordinators? Oh yeah, four,

814
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 9>and he was like, I'm just getting this down in

815
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 9>this play right, Yeah, but one guy. But he's like,

816
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 9>it's the seventh or eighth game, I'm finally comfortable, and

817
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 9>all of a sudden, I got a change again the

818
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:24.400
<v Speaker 9>next year. So that's really hard. But but bringing Wolford back,

819
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:27.360
<v Speaker 9>I think, you know, I think that helps a little

820
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 9>bit too, because again another college guy, So you're bringing

821
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 9>two college guys in instead of two pro guys which

822
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 9>you had in Yinzer and Liam.

823
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and let's face it, with running backs, they they

824
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>just take the ball and go. You know, they know

825
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 2>what hole they had, they know what the yeah, you know.

826
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think probably you've got to be on the

827
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>same page, of course with your wide receivers.

828
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But quite a bit of the burns on the old line.

829
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 8>Oh it's I mean, at the end of the day,

830
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 8>that's what's kind of derailed then the last two seasons.

831
00:45:57.920 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 8>Last year the quarterback had a lot to do with it,

832
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.119
<v Speaker 8>but twenty twenty two, the offensive line. You couldn't operate

833
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 8>with that offense line. I think forty seven sacks allowed

834
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.760
<v Speaker 8>last year. They were better in pass pro, but Ray

835
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 8>Davis created a lot of those run plays. The offensive line,

836
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 8>you know, one of the worst graded run blocking old

837
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 8>lines in the country. So that's why you feel better

838
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 8>not only with coach Wolford, who I think gets the

839
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 8>best out of his players and demands it, but this

840
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 8>group is so experienced. I mean, I forget the exact

841
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 8>number starts combined Marcus Cox and Eli Cox have. It's

842
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 8>an obscene amount. I mean, Marcus is a seventh year guy.

843
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 8>Eli's a sixth year guy. Jager Burton is going into

844
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 8>his third year starting. You really need to make him,

845
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 8>have him take a jump. Gerald Minci started the last

846
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 8>two years at Tennessee, and then Jalen Farmers the least

847
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 8>experienced guy in the line. But apparently it has been

848
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 8>awesome since he's gotten here. He's kind of took over

849
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 8>that job from Dylan Ray. I thought actually played pretty

850
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 8>solid last year. So and that's the big thing too,

851
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 8>you know, mixing Dylan Ray there's actually death, if there's

852
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 8>an injury, it's not gonna be as catastrophic as it

853
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 8>would be the last two years.

854
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth.

855
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:58.960
<v Speaker 9>Dylan is a guy that we've seen. He play both

856
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 9>sides and a guard, right, and Jagger is a guy

857
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 9>that could play both sides of a center.

858
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 8>And I think keenum that he's cross cunning at guard

859
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 8>and center.

860
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 9>But he's I think he's the air parent at center.

861
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:12.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for sure.

862
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 9>I think they really like the way he's been playing. Uh.

863
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 9>And then Malachi, he looks like a whole different dude.

864
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 9>I remember when he first got there, and I was like, man,

865
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 9>that's a basketball player to learning to play football, right,

866
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 9>because he's what six eight? He was six, but now

867
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 9>he's just a tall football player, you know. Now he's

868
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.480
<v Speaker 9>got the part. Yeah, and he's still been Yeah, he's

869
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 9>still got to add more, but he's close to fifteen. Yeah,

870
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 9>but they really like the way that he's been progressing.

871
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 9>So now we've talked about seven eight guys and the

872
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 9>experienced so and that's something they just haven't had the

873
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 9>last couple of years.

874
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I got a minute or two before the first break,

875
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 1>But how about I tossed this one out? Will we

876
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 1>see them throw much to.

877
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>The tight end this year?

878
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 1>So?

879
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean that's everybody else. Yeah, I don't.

880
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 8>I think Jordan Dingles as that athletic of the pass

881
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 8>catchers they had since Conrad, honestly, so you'd like to

882
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 8>see him get the ball. I'm not sure about Caddis.

883
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 8>I think he's more of a blocker. He's been dinged

884
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 8>up in camp. Uh, you know, Kamara Anderson's guy. I

885
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 8>really want to see him ball. I mean that hurdle

886
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 8>he had against Louisville that was all I needed to see, right,

887
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 8>So we'll see, we'll see uh at the end of

888
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 8>the day, when you're five deep at receiver six, if

889
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.920
<v Speaker 8>Hartley Gilmore comes back and may be challenging, it's all

890
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.000
<v Speaker 8>been depending on if they can get those extra snaps

891
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 8>that they've been working hard to get.

892
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Willie the freshman cupcaff Willy is a monster. He

893
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 9>is a big boy. He's got a college body.

894
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

895
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 8>They posted a highlight that he had in that scrimmage.

896
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 8>It looks like he ran over three dudes. Will really

897
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:40.719
<v Speaker 8>like him.

898
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 9>Cup CAAF is a great program up in northern Kentucky

899
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 9>and they're just churning out really nice football players. And

900
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 9>he's he is a bigger version I think of Katis

901
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 9>and blocking. He's a dog and that's what coach says.

902
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 9>But to your point of will they throw to him,

903
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 9>I think that's more of a quarterback thing, I really do.

904
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 9>I think one problem with Learry is he was smallish

905
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.400
<v Speaker 9>and he just couldn't really see the middle of the field,

906
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.159
<v Speaker 9>and that's why most of his throws were to the outside.

907
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 9>My whole thing was then moving, move the pocket.

908
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Game out said, that's.

909
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.519
<v Speaker 7>How they did not play.

910
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 8>It was a combination of he didn't know the offensible

911
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 8>enough and they didn't play to a strength.

912
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was just a bad marriage.

913
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

914
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh. The thing about tight ends is, and I've said

915
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 1>is more than once, it's either a design play for

916
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the why for the for the tight end, or it's

917
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a safety valve, which is often why the quarterback can

918
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>stay alive in a pocket and dump it.

919
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>A tight end already.

920
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Has at least a one step advantage on a linebacker

921
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's why people love it.

922
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.199
<v Speaker 9>But to get back to Air's point, do I want

923
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 9>Macklin with the ball down the field or do I

924
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 9>want a six yard eight yard pass to the tight

925
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:52.880
<v Speaker 9>end and maybe break break a tackler.

926
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Two. That's why on.

927
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 7>The outside, that's why it is.

928
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 2>It's a safety valve thing you call to play every

929
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 2>once in a while to keep them honest.

930
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 9>Right, yep, plush. I think you're gonna see him in the

931
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 9>backfield blocking a lot too.

932
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I agree.

933
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:08.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they're gonna make fun stuff.

934
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 8>There were some sets they did in the open scrimmage

935
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 8>where I forget which one that they lined. I think

936
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 8>if they lined Willie as a full back a couple

937
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:16.400
<v Speaker 8>of times. So they're they're gonna do some funky things there.

938
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershan from the cast Pause, Jeff Piicorrel from the

939
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>UK Network, live on tape here in the garage, and

940
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come back with more football chatter and just

941
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a minute on the Big Moon Siders six thirty WLAP.

942
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back our number two of our program. We're in

943
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the garage with Jeff Piicarel of the UK Radio Network,

944
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershan from the cast Paws. Naturally, we're talking about

945
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky football. You'll hear Jeff's coverage alongside Tom Leach coming up,

946
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>and you will also read Aaron Gershaan's and the pages

947
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of the cast pause in online. If just typingcastpaus dot com,

948
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>it'll take you to the website. We spent the entire

949
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.039
<v Speaker 1>first segment talking about offense, because, as Jet pointed out,

950
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 1>that was the mystery. Uh, defensively, I know there are

951
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>questions marks, but Jeff, we've seen a lot of good defenses,

952
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 1>especially in the twenty eighteen team.

953
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>With Josh Allen.

954
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there's a Josh Allen. There might

955
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:16.800
<v Speaker 1>be in terms of draft status and notoriety and maybe

956
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>even in a different way impacting the game in Dion Walker,

957
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 1>but overall could his defense.

958
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Be as good or better?

959
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think they can. I think JJ Weaver came

960
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 9>back for a reason. It was because you just had

961
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.320
<v Speaker 9>a so so season last year and a lot of

962
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 9>the NFL people are like, we can't take him. He

963
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 9>has to show us more. You know, he's not huge,

964
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 9>he's good sized, he's long, he's long. I don't know

965
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 9>how good he is in coverage in open field. So

966
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 9>there's some things that he has to improve on. And

967
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 9>I think this is a huge look. When you get

968
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 9>to be twenty twenty one, twenty two years old and

969
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 9>you're playing football, you start thinking do I have a

970
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 9>future in this? Because the one thing you tell kids

971
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.440
<v Speaker 9>you go to high school or something. Look around this room.

972
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 9>How many of these guys get college scholarships?

973
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Two?

974
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 9>Three, four on a good team? Right, you went to

975
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.000
<v Speaker 9>turn it's a little different, but still, then of those guys,

976
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 9>how many of them make the pros?

977
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>That's right?

978
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 9>Maybe one every two years, every three years.

979
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 7>Many.

980
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.719
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so he has an opportunity to go to the

981
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 9>next level he does. Can he get better?

982
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:23.679
<v Speaker 7>Dion?

983
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 9>You know what he got? You know what his He

984
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 9>doesn't have a ceiling. He's a ceiling. Is the Moon.

985
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 2>He might.

986
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 7>He might be. He might pass Allen as the highest

987
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.000
<v Speaker 7>draft pickery he could. Sarah think you might.

988
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.199
<v Speaker 9>I think it. If we're talking about the front, everything

989
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 9>hinges to me on Silver. If Keithshan silver five star

990
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 9>recruit came here from North Carolina, if he plays like that,

991
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 9>this defensive front is going to be really really good.

992
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Agree, Jeff.

993
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you because you were at the scrimmage

994
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Saturday while I was investing at Saratoga.

995
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 9>Second play eighty R touchdown pass?

996
00:52:57.800 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

997
00:52:58.280 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 9>About that?

998
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>From whom to whom?

999
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 9>Brought to Dane Nice?

1000
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Well?

1001
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Who do they burn? Is that a good news things? Yeah?

1002
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 9>Jansen Dunne, it was a he just got inside of

1003
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.920
<v Speaker 9>him and at his length, you've got to stay over

1004
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 9>the top with him. You can't if he gets over

1005
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 9>the top of you. As a defender your beat. You know,

1006
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 9>Jansen took one bad step and and he went by him.

1007
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>But well, that kind of answers my question a little bit.

1008
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 1>But we always talk about how in scrimmage's defense generally,

1009
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 1>when's the first one?

1010
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Was that the case?

1011
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 9>I thought they played pretty even coach even said it afterwards.

1012
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.360
<v Speaker 9>I think the coaches saw it was it was pretty even.

1013
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 9>There were some shock plays that we call, you know,

1014
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 9>the long plays like that, but I thought both sides

1015
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 9>of the ball played pretty well. You could see the

1016
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.320
<v Speaker 9>defense is really good. But I think the difference is

1017
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 9>the offense is much better than last year. They're just better.

1018
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>So it was that apparent.

1019
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I mean there was some room

1020
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 9>to run on certain plays.

1021
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I was tempo.

1022
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.079
<v Speaker 9>It was good that. That's the one thing you like,

1023
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 9>and the one thing you see at practice, and I

1024
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.440
<v Speaker 9>know you know is the coaches employing them. Get set,

1025
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.679
<v Speaker 9>Get set, Get up there and get set.

1026
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1027
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 9>They're not trying to be Tennessee. They're not snapping it

1028
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 9>at a you know, ridiculous seting. It's just get set.

1029
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:21.519
<v Speaker 9>So because he gets twenty five seconds to talk to him.

1030
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 9>At fifteen seconds, communication stole between the coaches in the

1031
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 9>box and the quarterback and the linebacker. So he's calling

1032
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 9>in a play and watching what's the defense doing. Okay,

1033
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 9>they're bringing a nickel. Okay, we're gonna do this. Blah

1034
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 9>blah blah blah, bah bah blah blah. Whatever the play

1035
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 9>is called, and they want everybody set. So if he

1036
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 9>calls something, if he sees that they're bringing somebody in

1037
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 9>or taking somebody out. He can shift that, you know,

1038
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:53.159
<v Speaker 9>call it audible to his headset to him. So you

1039
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 9>just want to get get there, don't care where you

1040
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 9>just get up, get to the line. We're not gonna

1041
00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 9>call the play, but just get there.

1042
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>You may have said this, Aaron, but hamed in going

1043
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to be in the booth. I think he.

1044
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:05.920
<v Speaker 8>I think he think he said that it was his

1045
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:07.199
<v Speaker 8>preference back when.

1046
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I asked, because oh, she usually are Cohen did both.

1047
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, col switched, he gamed a game.

1048
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:16.199
<v Speaker 8>Well, his first tenure here was exclusively on the field.

1049
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:16.679
<v Speaker 7>This year.

1050
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 8>I think he was on the field to start the

1051
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 8>year and then he had that issue the health health geah,

1052
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.679
<v Speaker 8>and then he stayed up there a last season and

1053
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 8>then Skang Guerrilla, same thing where he started, not health issue,

1054
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 8>same thing, but he started the year on the field,

1055
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.840
<v Speaker 8>decided to go on the booth. So uh yeah, I

1056
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:31.800
<v Speaker 8>think it sounds like a was gonna be upstairs. And

1057
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.239
<v Speaker 8>that's how personally I always think is the best for no.

1058
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I talked earlier in the show and Aaron, I'm not

1059
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 1>sure where you were in life when Andre Woodson was

1060
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 1>starting to.

1061
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, he was drafted by the Giants, so I knew.

1062
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I knew that.

1063
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm just saying I did my research on him

1064
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 8>back then when I was when you playing, well, I

1065
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 8>was eight years old.

1066
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:54.079
<v Speaker 9>But I'm saying his first two years he was like

1067
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 9>you out there, yeah, and then all of a sudden,

1068
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 9>his third year, we were like.

1069
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, wow, that's what I just That's what I'm

1070
00:55:59.400 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>getting to.

1071
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned this earlier, is that Rich Brooks his

1072
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>best compliment was, it's not that Andre gets us into

1073
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 1>a good play, he gets us out of a bad play.

1074
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 1>By the time that confidence, you remember when he stopped

1075
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.719
<v Speaker 1>looking to the sidelines, like help me, and then he

1076
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>was almost like overnight, I got this, you know. And

1077
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I gotta think the helmet comms will be

1078
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a huge help there.

1079
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>It is.

1080
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 9>I always this always was intriguing to me because I'm

1081
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 9>very good friends with Kenny Anderson, the former quarterback for

1082
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 9>the for the Cincinnati Bengals, and we talk about this

1083
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.480
<v Speaker 9>all the time. And the guys that he played with,

1084
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 9>the Terry Bradshaws and Burt Joneses and Dan Fouts and

1085
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 9>all them, they wanted to call their home plates. They like,

1086
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 9>I'm on the field. I know what's working. I know

1087
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.480
<v Speaker 9>you know, so you almost want that in your quarterback too.

1088
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.360
<v Speaker 9>It got to a point when you have a guy

1089
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 9>that started a year or two, it's usually that second

1090
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 9>year that they can almost tell the coach I want

1091
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 9>to do let's do this. Yeah, you know this is working.

1092
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 9>It's almost And I think you're going to see that

1093
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.119
<v Speaker 9>in Dian Walker on the defensive side, where they're gonna

1094
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 9>use him a lot like Bruce Smith or Reggie White,

1095
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 9>where he might be in the two hole, like between

1096
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:17.880
<v Speaker 9>the garden center, and then the next play he might

1097
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 9>be outside the tackle, and the next one he might

1098
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 9>be on the left side instead of the right side.

1099
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Probably not coverage, but he's gonna move around mound, but

1100
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 1>he wants to be in coverage.

1101
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 8>Yes, he's pre I mean, was it last year of

1102
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 8>the Florida again. Yeah, that's still one of the coolest

1103
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 8>plays I've ever seen.

1104
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's what he keeps going back to, because the

1105
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 1>joke here is, if you haven't heard it, is that

1106
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 1>he begged, begged him, and.

1107
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 7>He put in one play and it worked.

1108
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 2>And that was the play, and you've seen it over

1109
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and over where he absolutely destroyed.

1110
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 8>The end and it turned into a pick for Trevin Wallace. Yeah,

1111
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 8>and a touchdown on the other end.

1112
00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 1>And apparently, and Brad just mentioned this to us the

1113
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 1>other day. He comes back to the sidelan Dion does celebrating.

1114
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Stoops went up to Brad White. Don't you ever do?

1115
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But can you imagine going over the middle and seeing

1116
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a guy terrified? I can't imagine.

1117
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, he he wears wide receiver shoes.

1118
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:21.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, what he wears wide receiver shoes. Yeah, he's that

1119
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 9>defensive line.

1120
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 8>Yes, Stope said that after that game. We why because

1121
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:30.039
<v Speaker 8>he says he nimble, nimble, I mean he is like and.

1122
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.519
<v Speaker 2>My other question is what wide receiver has feet that shyye.

1123
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 8>That Well, that's why the last segment. I think he

1124
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.079
<v Speaker 8>might end up going higher than Josh Allen because of that.

1125
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 8>I mean, he's six six three forty eight and moves

1126
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 8>like a outside backer. And in the NFL nowadays, more

1127
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 8>than ever, interior defensive tackles are getting paid and they're

1128
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.119
<v Speaker 8>making impacts. I mean, as johnsid Dexter, Lawrence is our

1129
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.480
<v Speaker 8>best player. He's a I saw a stat where he's

1130
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 8>eighty one pressures to sixteen to the next closest guy

1131
00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:58.519
<v Speaker 8>the last two years.

1132
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.280
<v Speaker 7>Well, that's a guy who's been compared.

1133
00:58:59.960 --> 00:59:04.079
<v Speaker 9>To Donald Aaron Donald, and he only barely scratches three hundred.

1134
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 9>Not a monster.

1135
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>No, you know what it reminds me of As we

1136
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 2>get to the break, Jeff, this goes back away, but

1137
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Robertson. Yeah, you know it was the third or fourth.

1138
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Player taking yes, yes in the draft, and and the

1139
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Jets had to and you're from New York. The Jets

1140
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>had to make sure people understood this guy is not

1141
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be sacking the quarterback. He's going to be

1142
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 1>commanding double teams and everybody else.

1143
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Have more fun.

1144
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 7>Nowadays, these guys are getting to the quarterback too.

1145
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean when I talked to Octavi so Oxen down

1146
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>about playing alongside and yeah.

1147
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.599
<v Speaker 2>We love it when he's doing this thing, which you

1148
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:39.760
<v Speaker 2>can on everybody. That's right.

1149
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Aaron gershawan, Jeff Pacoro in the garage right now, we're

1150
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>talking football. More to come on six thirty w l

1151
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.239
<v Speaker 1>A P Welcome back. We're live on taping the garage

1152
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 1>with Jeff Pcorol the UK Sports Network, Aaron Gershwan of

1153
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 1>the Cats Boss and Jeff, why don't you shamelessly plug

1154
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the project you've got coming up. We already shot video

1155
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:03.039
<v Speaker 1>for a special and as I mentioned in the first

1156
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 1>hour of the show, Jeff's station WTVQ now has the

1157
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 1>SEC through ABC and ESPN. So now Jeff has to

1158
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:13.719
<v Speaker 1>put together the same sort of shows that I used

1159
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to have to put together. And before you went to

1160
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>work for a competing TV station, you anchored a lot.

1161
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 9>Of those shows over at C.

1162
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but now you're a producer and probably do some

1163
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of the editing. Yeah, the chief cook and bottle washer.

1164
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 9>But the twenty fourth, which is a week from this

1165
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 9>coming Saturday.

1166
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it a UK show as Yeah, it's.

1167
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:35.880
<v Speaker 9>Just a it's it's our preseason show for the for

1168
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:37.559
<v Speaker 9>the the start of.

1169
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:39.400
<v Speaker 2>The foot Networks. I'm sure gonna have something.

1170
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and we're actually having a big bash that Wednesday

1171
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.719
<v Speaker 9>of the opening weeks. That would be twenty four until sixth.

1172
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.199
<v Speaker 9>What date is that, I don't know, But anyway, the

1173
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.559
<v Speaker 9>Wednesday before at Double Dogs out there and it's the

1174
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 9>SEC on ABC twenty first.

1175
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 2>The next week, yeah, twenty eight.

1176
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 9>Twenty at Double Dogs and yeah, and we got a

1177
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:10.320
<v Speaker 9>bunch of stuff from like ABC and and SEC and ways.

1178
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:15.280
<v Speaker 9>Jeff Ruby's gift certificates, all kinds of stuff out there,

1179
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 9>So coming out the Double Dogs will be it'll be

1180
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.039
<v Speaker 9>a lot of fun. I'm gonna try to get some

1181
01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 9>guys out there, uh, Bill Ramsdells and Dusty Bonders of

1182
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:25.760
<v Speaker 9>the world to come out. You got that right, A

1183
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 9>lot of specials.

1184
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I also played earlier these they're calling it the

1185
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:35.719
<v Speaker 1>sec on ABC anthem, Yes, but I think there's a

1186
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:39.440
<v Speaker 1>difference between that and the theme music, you know, the

1187
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 1>theme that CBS said, you know, going in and out of.

1188
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Break bringing a vern and all that. Do we know

1189
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 2>yet what ABC is doing.

1190
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 9>I've not heard it yet. I've just heard the song.

1191
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Ye what did you think of that? And I know

1192
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a company man, but.

1193
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:57.760
<v Speaker 9>Oh, you know me, it'll take I'm like the same

1194
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:02.000
<v Speaker 9>thing with Monday night football tanks from one hundred years.

1195
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 9>So just let it play.

1196
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's got to be different, got to be different,

1197
01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:06.960
<v Speaker 2>gotta be different.

1198
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously we're looking at the Wildcats, but also this

1199
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.360
<v Speaker 1>is going to be what might be aaron the toughest

1200
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 1>season in the history at SECA, not just for Kentucky

1201
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:22.159
<v Speaker 1>but every Florida schedule.

1202
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna pull that up. I mean, I think they're the.

1203
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>First day you think Napier's not going to survive well

1204
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:29.239
<v Speaker 1>through the entire year.

1205
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 9>He's probably in the hotest seat right now and maybe

1206
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:33.239
<v Speaker 9>in all the college football I didn't.

1207
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 8>I think, yeah, here you go, now that you have

1208
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.639
<v Speaker 8>the ap top twenty five Pole came out. They start

1209
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 8>with number nineteen Miami. They have a Samford game, and

1210
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:44.039
<v Speaker 8>then they play number nineteen A and M also on

1211
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 8>their number fourteen Florida. I lost the Pigs, but I

1212
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.039
<v Speaker 8>know Florida's on Tennessee. I'm sorry, Number fourteen Tennessee is

1213
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:52.920
<v Speaker 8>on there. They have to go to they have to

1214
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 8>play All miss at home. Who else is on there

1215
01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 8>in Florida State. At the end of the year, they

1216
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 8>gave Kentucky at home. They have Texas on the road.

1217
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 8>What I believe, I mean, their schedule is brutal. I

1218
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:05.639
<v Speaker 8>think they played eight or nine ranked teams in the preseason,

1219
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 8>like and the Kentucky's I saw it was ranked the

1220
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:09.159
<v Speaker 8>fourth hardest in the country.

1221
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Like They've got Mississippi State in Starkville September twenty first,

1222
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you see.

1223
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 2>F which won't be easy. Nope, that's in games. But

1224
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.559
<v Speaker 2>but after that they head for Florida. I'm sorry, they

1225
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:23.559
<v Speaker 2>head for Tennessee.

1226
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.199
<v Speaker 8>Had for Tennessee, and then they have Kentucky coming in

1227
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 8>the next week for their homecoming.

1228
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Game, and then Texas Georgia, Texas Georgia year.

1229
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ls, I mean, and that's the thing for Kentucky.

1230
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 7>And Florida State, who should have been in the playoff list.

1231
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky falls for them between Tennessee and Geordan.

1232
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.840
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky's got that's either a or a bed.

1233
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.800
<v Speaker 8>Well, it should be well Kentucky theoretically they're gonna have

1234
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.440
<v Speaker 8>bye week Vandy Florida.

1235
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 2>There you go, and we've seen them compete in Gainesville.

1236
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you guys think keep winning?

1237
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.519
<v Speaker 9>Like you just said, Florida State should have been in

1238
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 9>the playoff last year? Do you think that having twelve

1239
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.159
<v Speaker 9>because their bowl game was ridiculous shouldn't have been played? Yeah,

1240
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 9>I mean that it was just horrible that what thirty

1241
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:11.880
<v Speaker 9>players something like that didn't didn't said we're not going

1242
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:16.599
<v Speaker 9>that can't happen. But now that you've at least expanded

1243
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.880
<v Speaker 9>to twelve teams, I'm one of these guys that there's

1244
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:23.519
<v Speaker 9>always going to be the thirteenth team. There's always there's

1245
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 9>always the sixty fifth or now what is at sixty ninth?

1246
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:28.800
<v Speaker 9>And now they're going to expand that even more. Come on, Yes,

1247
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:30.000
<v Speaker 9>it set a limit.

1248
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 7>To me, Well it should, I like twelve. I think

1249
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:32.920
<v Speaker 7>it will stay.

1250
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:34.039
<v Speaker 2>It needs to be true.

1251
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 1>But I'm exactly with you, but it's not going to

1252
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:38.199
<v Speaker 1>be just the thirteenth team.

1253
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:39.920
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be the thirteenth through the.

1254
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Twentieth because there will be teams, of course, with multiple

1255
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 1>losses playoffs. So any team with two losses, depending on

1256
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 1>their schedule, will be able.

1257
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:52.480
<v Speaker 2>To point there are far fewer teams.

1258
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>If you lost two games and you're not LSU and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting into a fourteen playoff. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>lost one game, there's a chance that you won't be

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>State lost zero games, didn't, Yeah, exactly, And it was

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<v Speaker 9>all because their quarterback, because he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I said no, because I did not

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<v Speaker 2>believe they were the same team. I agree, And there

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<v Speaker 2>were other Somebody brought up Ohio State won a big

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01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.599
<v Speaker 2>game with a backup quarterback, Well, so what.

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<v Speaker 9>You Yeah it was Cardill Jones, Yeah, but the running

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<v Speaker 9>back was Ezekiel Elliot. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, uh no, but I think it'd be better

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<v Speaker 1>for college football.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think the chasm is widening.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh I mean it is. Yeah, never been bigger than

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<v Speaker 9>what it is now.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's gonna be like I was having this, they're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna be three team, three loss teams in the SEC

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<v Speaker 8>where you're gonna be like they should probably. I was

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<v Speaker 8>having this argument in a conversation, not argument, but talk

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<v Speaker 8>with someone the other day. Like if Kentucky goes nine

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<v Speaker 8>and three with the schedule and hypothetically steals an Old Miss, Texas,

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<v Speaker 8>Georgia or what's the other one, h that's in there, Tennessee, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 8>Old Miss Georgia or Texas, if they steal one of

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<v Speaker 8>those at nine and three, do they have an argument?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do. You've got to assume in there is

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<v Speaker 2>and win over Louisville.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, if they handle their business, which the point

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<v Speaker 8>is Louisville may, Yes, yes they might.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's like if they steal one of those games,

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<v Speaker 8>which more so Texas, Ole Miss or Georgia, like that's

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<v Speaker 8>a legitimate right.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's gonna be fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeap, And it's going to be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because you know, they got the TV

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<v Speaker 1>show and this and that, and and I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have been frustrated by that through the years,

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<v Speaker 1>not just a number of teams, but just the whole

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01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 1>process in general. But I said, keep in mind now

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<v Speaker 1>that while everybody's arguing about college football, they're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the NFL. Right, And your network is affiliated of

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01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:52.960
<v Speaker 1>course owns the ESPN, and their research top to bottom,

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01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.239
<v Speaker 1>as you know, shows how popular the NFL is. That's

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01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 1>why it's when the season begins, especially for NFL nuts

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01:06:58.840 --> 01:06:59.679
<v Speaker 1>like you, Aaron.

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01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Every hour on there there's a there's an NFL show

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01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:02.719
<v Speaker 2>on the air.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think the difference in it is right now,

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01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.800
<v Speaker 9>it's so much fun to be a college fan because

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01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.840
<v Speaker 9>in the NFL, for instance, Joe Burrow played what the

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01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.559
<v Speaker 9>first series in the last game. They're saying here in

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01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:20.119
<v Speaker 9>game two, none of the starters you can pay, they're

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01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.760
<v Speaker 9>not even gonna play. So why talk about Jeff Bacoro

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01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 9>playing wide receiver for the Bears this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Who?

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<v Speaker 9>No one cares because it's not it has nothing now

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01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.320
<v Speaker 9>when the season starts, forget about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Any who cares?

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<v Speaker 9>Bananas the gamblers, Yeah, and fantasy player. Well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 9>it's interesting because now it brings up the thing that

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<v Speaker 9>we've heard about college football and the injuries. Are they

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<v Speaker 9>gonna make it where they have to become more black

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<v Speaker 9>and white with these injuries?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember college level? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I could keep going back to twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 8>The only reason anyone found out that Will Levis was

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01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:02.079
<v Speaker 8>herd is because the line dropped from seven and a

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<v Speaker 8>half to two for that South Carolina game out and

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01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:07.079
<v Speaker 8>everyone's like, what the hell's going on? It's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 8>well Levis and everyone thought he was his finger, remember

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01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.199
<v Speaker 8>his finger at all missed me before like snapped, Oh

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01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.119
<v Speaker 8>he's out for the game. Oh ends up being a

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01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.560
<v Speaker 8>foot and it's more serious injury. But yeah, it's got

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<v Speaker 8>to be the Big ten. Did it last year?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know why it's not universal at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and Jeff and I talk about this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Brooks first practice at Kentucky, We're all grouped around

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01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:28.279
<v Speaker 1>him and the first thing he does.

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<v Speaker 9>Pull out his paper, pulls out a.

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01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Piece of paper and goes okay injuries. Then he stopped himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he said he looked around and goes, ah,

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01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it's an NFL thing, and he wade off the injuries

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, because.

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<v Speaker 7>He was like some coaches doing.

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01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:43.399
<v Speaker 2>The sun came up the next day and Kentucky won

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01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I mean Florida. I remember looking through

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01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:47.960
<v Speaker 8>their game notes. They have an injury report on their

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<v Speaker 8>South Carolina does.

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<v Speaker 2>It, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with Stoops say if why not everybody

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01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:54.319
<v Speaker 1>does it, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 7>He's always said, why should I do it?

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<v Speaker 2>If everybody no? No, I get that.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I have no issues with what he does. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>just saying it needs to just I agree. Rip the

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<v Speaker 8>bandit off.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and here's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you're a college sports commissioner, a president or whatever,

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01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the NFL does it? Why gamblers gambling information?

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<v Speaker 1>That's why there are deadlines. Yes, and you can't play

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<v Speaker 1>games within the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, on Saturday afternoon or evening with injuries or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So now with all these betting services around, did the

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<v Speaker 2>college powers would be do exactly what Aaron is.

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<v Speaker 9>I was stunned. I watched a Penn State game last

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01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:36.159
<v Speaker 9>year and their ribbon board all the way around it said,

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<v Speaker 9>you know draft Kings special, you know, twenty five dollars,

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<v Speaker 9>you know for one hundred whatever, you know, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know. We're we are not allowed to do that,

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<v Speaker 9>but I'm just I was like, you got to be

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<v Speaker 9>kidding me. And then the net went up. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>it used to be the All State Good Hands right

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<v Speaker 9>and it was draft whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was extra point at.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, I mean so it's another avenue. Well, what the

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01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 9>college chancellors and presidents and eighties are thinking is if

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<v Speaker 9>Draft Kings is going to pay me a million dollars

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01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 9>to raise that, that goes right to my nil till

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<v Speaker 9>that I've got to have at you know, because facilities, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean that against that's the difference is you've got

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<v Speaker 9>there has to be a media. We could talk all

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<v Speaker 9>day on this because it's it's just horrible, because it's

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<v Speaker 9>just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And

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<v Speaker 9>when I was talking chasm, I think you were talking

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<v Speaker 9>about the losses and who gets in. I was talking

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01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:44.560
<v Speaker 9>about the chasm between the haves and the have not.

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<v Speaker 9>Miami of Ohio, Ohio, University, Western Michigan, all those schools,

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01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 9>e K. They're they're done, They're finished. They're irrelevant now.

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<v Speaker 9>All you are now is a feeder system to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 9>It took Walt Wells ninety five percent of his nil

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01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:04.039
<v Speaker 9>money to keep Parker last years his quarterback because all

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01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:06.439
<v Speaker 9>these Division one teams one name is their backups, right,

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01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.600
<v Speaker 9>and we're going to pay him hundreds of thousands of

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01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 9>dollars to come as a backup.

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<v Speaker 7>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back and solve more problems in just a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Here on the Big Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Insider, jefp Picorro, Aaron Gershan you were surely on six

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty wlap welcome Back final segment with Aaron Gershawan

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<v Speaker 1>and jefpicorl right here in the garage because Jeff, prior

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01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:29.199
<v Speaker 1>to us taping our show, shot a little TV feature

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01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.720
<v Speaker 1>so that will appear on the pre season special.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a name for this alleged show yet?

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01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:37.199
<v Speaker 9>Just our Solid Blue preview.

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01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Show, gotcha? Okay?

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01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 1>When I was doing this sort of thing at KYT,

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01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:47.159
<v Speaker 1>naming shows was my by far weakest weakest traits. So

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01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.720
<v Speaker 1>anybody who can come up with a clever name, you know,

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01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll tip the BBI cap to them. As we wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up our discussion about Kentucky football, we talked about where

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01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.600
<v Speaker 1>we think they're they may end up with possibly eight

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01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 1>nine whatever. But Aaron, you talked about growing up. I

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01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:09.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much you paid attention to Kentucky football,

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01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:15.039
<v Speaker 1>but I feel certain that it wasn't then clearly as

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01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.720
<v Speaker 1>relevant as it is now, which to me is fascinating. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up for the most part here in Kentucky,

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01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you played at UK. This is got to help us

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01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the fortieth anniversary season. If you're all his eighty four

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01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:31.399
<v Speaker 1>bowl game team, the team that won the Which Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you win? Back then?

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<v Speaker 9>It was called the Hall of Fame Bowl.

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01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:34.960
<v Speaker 1>The Hall of Fame Bowl, which went on to become

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01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 1>back the out Back Bawl in Tampa Weak Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 9>Then finished the year sixteenth in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to back winning seasons after a winless season, not far,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, But relevance for Kentucky then it's sagged.

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<v Speaker 2>But ever since Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Stoop's got here, it's been climbing. Now where it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the conversation, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron?

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<v Speaker 9>I think you might know the number here, but what

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01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:00.239
<v Speaker 9>is it? Eight bowls in a row that he and

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<v Speaker 9>there's only there's only like four teams in the country

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01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.479
<v Speaker 9>that have done more in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm yes, it's only it's only Bam and Georgia. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, roj Obama, that's it Tennessee, not Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when people scoff, well, you have to do

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01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a schedule your way to a bowl game.

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01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's that easy.

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<v Speaker 9>Everybody would be doing. That's exactly. And you got to

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<v Speaker 9>remember too. I know a lot of people say, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, they have an easy Louisville has. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 9>face it's been on a roller coaster at Louisville, right,

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01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.199
<v Speaker 9>I mean, they were good, they're bad, They're good, they're bad,

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01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.119
<v Speaker 9>They're good, they're bad. Jeff Brawm has brought them back

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01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:42.119
<v Speaker 9>to prominence. They're very good. You really have three games, yes,

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01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:45.640
<v Speaker 9>and Louislle. Louisville's totally different that that should not be

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01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:49.800
<v Speaker 9>counted as a a automatic win like Eastern Kentucky, and.

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<v Speaker 1>People chalk up non conference exactly, you know, and sadly

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<v Speaker 1>when they add the ninth game, I think we'll see the.

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<v Speaker 2>End of a regular game with.

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<v Speaker 9>I agree, I think and I thought. For all that

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01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:06.800
<v Speaker 9>you love or hate about Mitch Barnhart, the one thing

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<v Speaker 9>that he talked about was here's what you have to remember.

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<v Speaker 9>With that one extra game. That means every team in

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<v Speaker 9>the SEC is going to get a loss. Texas isn't

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01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:17.359
<v Speaker 9>going to be nine or half the teams at least. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean that's who I met. Yeah, half the team

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<v Speaker 9>could get lost. So let's say you have to add

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<v Speaker 9>that game, and now Texas has to play Alabama. Alabama

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01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:28.760
<v Speaker 9>has to play Georgia. Georgia has to play L s U.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's that one extra game. Now you might have

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<v Speaker 9>to play Oklahoma L s U and Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>You every other year, we'll have to go on the road.

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<v Speaker 9>And right, that's what I mean. So that extra loss,

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<v Speaker 9>it's good if you if you come through the SEC undefeated,

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<v Speaker 9>you're the number one in the in the playoffs, you

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<v Speaker 9>have to play and probably the Big probably the Big

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<v Speaker 9>Ten too. If you're undefeated, that up top the top.

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<v Speaker 9>You know you've got Oregon is what third to Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jeff Kelly, Rick Patino were the first.

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<v Speaker 1>But many have said, just give the football power conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>let them do their own thing with football, leave everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else alone, and.

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<v Speaker 9>The world would be a better pay year exactly right,

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<v Speaker 9>not it definitely would definitely. I think you should have

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<v Speaker 9>four sixteen team conferences in football, and then that's sixty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And all the other sports men and women go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the original geographic Yes, traditional.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, did you see what came out about UCLA today?

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<v Speaker 9>They're traveling twenty two thousand miles this year in the

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<v Speaker 9>football games because they have a game in Hawaii, which

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<v Speaker 9>is only one hundred miles further than I think it's

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<v Speaker 9>Wisconsin that they're playing something. So what really, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 9>twenty two hundred miles.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't if they go to figure Southern calill do

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<v Speaker 2>something similar. You would, YEA in Washington.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, but they're not playing Hawaii, Like you said.

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<v Speaker 8>It sucks even more faller sports. I mean you're talking.

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<v Speaker 8>You're talking a soccer game between Rutgers and UCLA on

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<v Speaker 8>a Thursday night and them got to be in class

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<v Speaker 8>Friday morning.

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<v Speaker 9>Or tennis or golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I guarantee you in sane. Jeff and I

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<v Speaker 2>are privileged to fly with the team.

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<v Speaker 9>On the charter.

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<v Speaker 7>Not all those people new they're on American.

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<v Speaker 2>Airlines and your luggage to somebody and you see it

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<v Speaker 2>at the hotel. Not that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the smallers PLoP Nope. So yeah, it's ridiculous, fellas.

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<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate you coming by, Jeff one more time

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<v Speaker 1>shamelessly plug your show.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's our Solid Blue preview special the twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>So and there will be a little segment, little feature

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<v Speaker 2>on the BBI.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron and I will be with Billy Rutledge the night

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<v Speaker 1>of the first March Stoops Radio show and then after

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<v Speaker 1>bb AND Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>But Darren Hedrick, the three of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Will jump on board and chat things all football. But

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<v Speaker 1>where can folks find your work?

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<v Speaker 7>Yep castpalls dot com, pigres of the Cats Paws.

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<v Speaker 8>We have an issue that will be printed today in

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<v Speaker 8>the Football Yearbook has been out for about a month

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01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:55.159
<v Speaker 8>and a half. They'll still time to grab that.

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<v Speaker 2>What do they need to look for in the yearbook?

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<v Speaker 8>Feature story me one on one Dean Walker six seven pages.

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<v Speaker 8>I did an interview with him back in June.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know what I like about the high school

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<v Speaker 9>coverage in there too? Oh yes, last forty pages.

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<v Speaker 7>Of high school and all writers from across the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, and who puts all? Who

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<v Speaker 1>does the lions work?

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<v Speaker 8>Eryl bird Man, Caryl bird He busts his butt and

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<v Speaker 8>we're already we're in a we're ahead of where we

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<v Speaker 8>usually are with the basketball y your book, and he's

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<v Speaker 8>knee deep in that too, so he doesn't And.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Harrold' is the one who got the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines rolling with his interview of Mark Stoops and Stoops' comments.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well that's been churned up. It'll hang over the

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<v Speaker 2>program for a little while.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, fellasp.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'll do it for this special edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Cider as Aaron and Jeff joined us here

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<v Speaker 1>in the garage and again watch for us on Jeff's

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<v Speaker 1>special coming up tomorrow night. We're back in our usual

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday routine. It's anything but with the unforgettable guard Sean Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and talk about the basketball tournament, but

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<v Speaker 1>also Olympic basketball as well. Gary More, Western Bureau Chief

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<v Speaker 1>will join us and priced from the UK network. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who digs up all those cool numbers. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good night from the garage in lexingon
