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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Fellasiko's I am Nana Valley coming at you with the

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only fans celebrity. We're onto another NBA trade deadline primer.

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We're I think we're inside the final five. This might

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be one of the final three that are coming up.

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It's New Orleans Pelicans time. Mort How the heck are

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you doing? Are you excited to talk about the Pelicans

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who will not be trading Derek Queen?

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Speaker 1: So stop asking?

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Speaker 3: Right? That is smart? That is smart to not trade. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I would like to know who asked though, because I

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respect the boldness of calling and asking about about him.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's one team. I think a lot

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of teams just call because again, if this is an

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organization that makes you an offer that makes you redial

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and go, really, is that is that what you're offering us?

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Then why not try your luck? Honestly?

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Speaker 2: May I guess it doesn't hurt to ask any team?

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Is what you could say? Trade deadline vitals time for them?

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So they are about one point nine million dollars below

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the luxury tax, which this will surprise nobody. They are

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not going to pay something to file away there. As

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of right now, they're under four million dollars inside the

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tax for next year, so they might be looking to

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try and cut some money off their books from next summer.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: First, I don't know if anyone has heard this is

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going to the Atlanta Hawks or the Milwaukee Bucks. Some

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twenty twenty seven draft pick manusha on them. The Pelicans

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are gonna get the more favorable of Milwaukee's pick and

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their own pick, and then the less favorable one goes

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to Atlanta. However, if both of those picks fall in

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the top four, which given the Yahnis rumors, is not

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outside the realm of possibility, the Pelicans get.

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Speaker 1: To keep both of them.

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Speaker 2: They only have one of their own seconds to trade

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in twenty thirty two, which is just weird for a

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team that's in their position right now. And finally, they

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have two notable trade exceptions. Thirteen million dollars from the

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bread and ingram trade that'll expire basically at the trade deadline,

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and then thirteen point four million from the olynic trade

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that will expire in July on July seventh, to be

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more exact more, let's start here.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you buy the idea that.

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Speaker 2: The Pelicans won't sell, which is the message that they

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have been putting out there.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I don't buy it. I mean, look, this

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is our organization that's so bad right now and have

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so many contracts where you're kind of looking at it

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going what is the future of this player and what

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is the future of this contractual status? Like they can

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go into this and say, well, we won't be sellers,

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which is fine and dandy, but when offers start coming

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in on certain guys, if they do, I'm pretty sure

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they'll be open minded. Like sign Williamson for example. Are

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we absolutely sure that a good offer comes in there?

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Speaker 2: Let's tackle what does it take you. Let's try to

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figure out a baseline for these guys. What is the

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minimum you need to consider moving Zion Williamson as the Pelicans.

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Speaker 3: So before I answer that question, I am going to

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ask you do you think NBA teams care about what

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is going on off the court and do you think

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that is going to affect you.

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Speaker 2: You know the answer to that question that these teams

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are not run in that way.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares.

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Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, So what's what's this going to take?

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That's that is your question. So here's the thing. He

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is not a guy who is going to lead your franchise,

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if anything like, he is going to be someone who

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should be your score, but not your most important player.

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So which, like, what category do you like fall into there?

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If you're that type of player? Do you? Is that

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like a we'll give you the form or is that no?

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I will give you some some assets, but not the

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entire farm. I mean Camp two on that one, I like,

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I will be willing to relinquish something, but not everything

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for Simon Williamson. So what is that something? Is it

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a couple of draft picks with some level of protection

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and a young player? I think?

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you because the way Zion is playing

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at the moment, he's absolutely like this a mortgage the

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farm guy. He's not always playing like this, and he

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hasn't always been playing, and the recency bias just doesn't

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Now the ship has sailed on, will the Pelican's.

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Speaker 1: Just trade him for expiring contracts?

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen if they were ever even considering it.

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But I'm from my perspective, I think the equivalent of

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what I would say is two first.

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Speaker 1: Round picks to wear. Am I just getting two picks?

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Speaker 2: Or is it a pick and then just a young

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player that I think really fits here over the long term.

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Speaker 1: You're not. But it's not gonna be.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking Giannis where you could get You could

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ask San Antonio, Dylan Harper or Steph Castle with a

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straight no, that's not that's not happening here. I do

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with Zion, though more so than the other guys we're

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going to talk about, struggle to think of teams that

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should just go do it. I would like the idea

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of him in Phoenix Suns. Fans hated me for saying that,

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but the Sons just don't have They don't have enough

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from my perspective as New Orleans because even if they

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threw in common mala watch, I just I have Derek Queen,

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He's Mesi's there too. That's not that's not doing it

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for me, Ryan Dunn as a tent poll. And when

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you don't have first round picks to include, is there

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a team that you could just envision Zion really working

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for you?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Look, we just talked about the Clippers. You wanted them

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to get a scoring forward. Are you giving up a

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first round.

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Speaker 1: Pick for Zion?

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Speaker 3: He would fit that mold? Like that is the John

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Speaker 2: So would you do a pick and a swap just

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because they don't have the young I like Kobe Sanders

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and Jordan Miller. I don't know if that's gonna do

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it for New Orleans? Do you do the pick in

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a swap plus salary for Zion? Who says that probably do?

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I probably do? If it's it's or Sion's that's at

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least interesting, like can I get him to not hold

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the ball as much? And there is one thing though,

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that does concern me. If we're looking at it through

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the perspective of the Clippers, Zion is still not a

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floor spacer like whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: And I think in part that's also why I hesitate

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on Zion frankly, as someone who like the If the

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Pelicans call me up and they say, well, we're open

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to moving him, you know we're looking for a lot though, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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My first thing coming back is I can't support a

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player who is just a complete non spacer. In the

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year twenty twenty six, so your asking price is probably

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going to be too high. Like, I would not be

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surprised if there are multiple NBA teams out there who're

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just flat out not interested because they understand the value

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of spacing and how they have to tailor so much

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of their offense around him. Which then also if you

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do that, then he has to be available, and then

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you're looking at it when going, oh, he played Freddy

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Games last year, Like, this is not an easy player

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to Like you said, we had to find a baseline

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he's we might I could might make the argument he

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might be the toughest player in the NBA to find

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like a value baseline on.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that he has shown though that

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he in the past and even some of the moments

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he's had with Derek Queen, that he can still be

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effective without a top line floor spacer in the front

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court next to him. My my bigger concern with the

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Clippers specifically would be he's never had to play I

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guess I don't want to say Brett, but him and

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brand and Ingram were never an intuitive fit. Doesn't it

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feel like you're dialing that up to eleven with James

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Zion isn't setting.

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Speaker 1: Screens and rolling to the rim in a high volume

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and he can't.

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Speaker 2: He can't pick and pop like a John Collin zer

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a brook Lopez, and he's not gonna play like a

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Viza zu Bots. So that would be my cause. But

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the talent is undeniable. What about what about Brooklyn? Would

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you give like two of the Well I actually went

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through this. I think they actually only have high, higher

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end first round picks. So never mind, I was gonna say,

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which you give away some of your lower end first

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round picks. But so like, let's say the Knicks first

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round pick in twenty twenty seven. And then does Brooklyn

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have anybody that would interest the Pelicans, because that's the baseline.

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Pelicans would save a bowload of money too if they wanted,

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because they have Brooklyn has fifteen plus million in cap space.

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Speaker 3: What is the incentive off the Brooklyn Nets trade for

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Speaker 2: Porter Junior killing it, They don't own their pick next year.

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the trade value both him and MPG, then you flip

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them at the deadline next year. Like this, you could

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Speaker 1: What about like I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not giving up Drake Powell, but when I give up

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Danny Wolf. But let's just say you're doing something like

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a prosper. You're not giving up Joeman. Maybe it's Ben Saraf.

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that next pick. Maybe you're just betting that Zion Williamson

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in a trade either over the summer or next season,

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you could get more for him than that, Or you're

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trying to be good and Zion Williamson and Michael Porter

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Junior plus some cap space this summer might be a

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way to do that.

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Speaker 3: I guess is somewhat interesting. I would probably prefer to

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go in a different direction, if you know, in terms

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of a team, because I don't think it makes a

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lot of sense overall for Brooklyn now Charlotte Hornet's, on

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Speaker 2: Hand, we're just gonna lean all the way into the

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league's best offense basically.

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Speaker 3: At this point, why not? I mean Look, so Miles

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Bridges I think is someone who has trouble integrating himself

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into like the fabric of an offense. I think he

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takes a lot of shots that are weird. You say,

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I'm sorry, I have to interject here. There was a

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war in our comment section on the Hornets trade deadline

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primer because we had the nerve to suggest that Jared

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Jackson Junior was better than Miles Bridges. That's interesting, are Okay.

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Speaker 1: I didn't partake in it, but I did see it.

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Speaker 3: It was just so like Hornets fans were like, Miles

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Bridges better than Jaron Jackson Junior.

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Speaker 1: Not I'm not. I'm not painting the broad brush.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a It wasn't just one person.

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I can tell you that much. It's like, wait, wait,

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did Charlotte Hornets have more than one fan? Okay, that's great.

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Speaker 3: No, I had to sorry, Look, he's not Can we

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just can we close the door on that immediately? Like

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Miles Bridges is not better And that's.

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Speaker 1: Coming from the pre eminent Jaron Jackson Junior hater.

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Speaker 3: Come on, that's that is cruel and unnecessary. I am

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critie seeking parts of his game, and I am critiquing

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his playoff performances with Miles Breeches. I am also critiquing

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his play because I do not think that he fits

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well within the flow of the offense. I like the

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LaMelo Brandon Miller, Conko Nipple trio far more. I would

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love to see someone else in Miles Breeches' role, Like

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would it have to be Sion? No. I actually think

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personally that it wouldn't be a bad thing to have

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more of a connector in that spot instead of Miles preaches.

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at least give me someone who is highly efficient, who

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can also move the basketball, who is going to attack

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the rim like there's no tomorrow, like LaMelo Sion.

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Speaker 2: That's insane, will be fun now here's And honestly, I

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Charles Lee, because if you this hasn't gotten a lot

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of shine because Hornets are setting the world on fire. Offensively,

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I think opponents are shooting under thirty five percent on

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wide open threes since Thanksgiving or whatever against them. But

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since Thanksgiving, basically they have this. They have a top

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seven defense, And I think what's gone into that is

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when your offense is so good, it gives your defense

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a chance to get set. And so if you're disciplined

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enough to get back and get set, that gives you

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a leg up. Do you think that integrating Zion is

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playing with fire there?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: To where it's well, now, Conkin Nipple probably has the

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ball in his hands even less, Brendon Miller the ball

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in his hands even less.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want that too. That's that's where it

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would be interesting, right or concerning. Rather, it's just I'm

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trying to identify teams that could use someone of that

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ill Like Hell, I could bring on another Eastern Conference

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team that would use a scoring power forward that dejoined Pistons. However,

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they're pretty short on spacing themselves, mister Valley, That's an

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issue here.

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Speaker 1: I like the Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: I like the Charlotte idea, but I think if I'm

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the Hornets, I also need to just get herb Jones

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in that deal, Like what does it take to do both?

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Because I think I think we're pushing the defense of

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like the Bill too far away. From defense at that point,

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what about the heat.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they miss out on Giannis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's the deal? There's Hero? No, it has

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to be wigging and something else, right, Like, you're not

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moving Hero in that deal.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine, well you maybe is it yakacions and

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a pick and then you have Terry Rozier's salary so

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you could play around with maybe you could get there

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without Wiggins or or Hero.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that would be interesting. Like if I can

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use Rosher's contract to finagle this, I'm absolutely exploring that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what about this is some kind of it's a

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bizarre construction, other moving parts involved. But would you do

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de Jonte Murray and Zion Williamson for Karl Anthony Towns

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and it's salary? So Gershan Jappucelli's in there, I think

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to get to make the math work.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wow, that's so.

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Speaker 2: You're getting off the Dejonte Murray deal. Carl Anthony Towns

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is shorter term. He can play next to Derek Queen,

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but your defense, you know, not gonna be great upfront

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with those minutes.

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Speaker 3: I feel as though if I'm training for Sion Williamson,

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I would once retain Carl Anthony Towns because of the

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spacing presence that he allows you.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, Zion Williamson gives you a ball

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handler against pressure that the Knicks don't have. And Jalen

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Brunson is no stranger to working within confined spacing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not advocating. I'm just asking questions.

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Speaker 3: You're just asking questions. Uh yeah, I don't love it

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is going to be my immediate feedback. Oh hell, I

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had a team.

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Speaker 2: I was at Memphis because that would be fun him

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and Jared Jackson Junior.

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Speaker 3: It was not. It was it was a young team.

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What about And you're gonna hate this and it's fair.

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It is fair. This takes a particular stomach to hold.

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What if Trey Young was step one of a large.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Well you saw the report that the Wizards are interested

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in Walker Kessler, Right, so I guess they want another

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big next to Sar But this is a completely different

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Washington can't do that. That would be I would question

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the vision or or they're doing the thing out I

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would maybe they're trying to do the thing outlined with Brooklyn.

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We're just gonna rehabilitate all these vets and get more

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value for them, like but.

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Speaker 3: At least like, I mean, it would be fun. I'm

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not saying you'd be smart, but I mean tray training

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for Trey Young and signed Williamson virtually at the same time,

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like Trey hasn't played yet, Like, right, that could be fun.

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Speaker 2: I think we may have reached the point where we

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move so Zion, the baseline is we want the equivalent

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of two for where they're not. I don't think you're

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gonna get a prime time like the Clippers if they

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put a pick on the table that feels like the

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best possible draft pick you could get for Zion Williamson, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Like you're not gonna get top shelf draft

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picks for Zion at this point.

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Speaker 1: No, what about Trey Murphy? What does it take to

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get him out of your.

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Speaker 3: World top shelf draft picks? I mean again, assuming, of course, uh,

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you know, the front office in New Orleans understand his value,

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which you better hope because in my perspective, I understand

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people will argue that Derek Queen might be the most

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you know, the guy with the most trade value because

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if he's on cost controlled cost contract and whatnot. But

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in terms of like who's the best player and who's

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on I also think a reasonable contract, a very reasonable contract.

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I think Trey Murphy is the guy who probably has

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the most trade value.

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Speaker 1: He has the bink.

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Speaker 2: I think you could argue Derek Queed is New Orleans'

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most important player long term, but Trey Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Clearly has the most trade value of anyone on the

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roster now.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this is the one player aside

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from Derrek Queed I think is New Orleans. I'm just

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looking at and saying, it's a minimum of four first

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round picks or we're not moving him. And I don't

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think they're gonna get that offer because his floor spacing

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and the pressure he puts on defenses both on and

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away from the ball, his ability to fit alongside basically

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any lineup construction. There's no point, Like, I don't even

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want to talk because is there a team that you

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would endorse right now? Because even the Pistons, Trey Murphrey

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is a great fit for them. Let's say you could

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get Ron Holland and three first round picks. I don't

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know if Detroit is gonna do that, and if I'm

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New Orleans, that's the minimum of what it's taken to

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getting you in the door.

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Speaker 3: I would, oh my god, immediately if I can get that,

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Like so that would be with Spice Harris right, so

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it would be like Harris and Ron Holland could.

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Speaker 2: Also I think you could probably make it work with

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Duncan Robinson, Jay and Ivys in there too. They got

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Carousel avert doesn't have to be Tobias Harris like to use.

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Speaker 3: I would like to use that Bias Harris contract eventually

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because they're going to be expensive next year anyway, when

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Jalen Duran is gonna come up for a new deal

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and Jade and Ivy who unless they trade him, So

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like Tobias Harris, I think is like the chip that

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needs to fall. I would do that immediately because that's

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the player for Detroit, right, Like we're talking about Lauren Markinen,

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We're talking about a both bunch of guys, like marketing

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is what twenty one million more expensive at this point?

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Yea than Trey Murphy. Like if Trey Murphy is in

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like Detroit and have control of like all most of

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or all of their.

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Speaker 1: Draft I think all of their draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like this is a team that absolutely should

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go in for it, Like if if it's Harris and

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picks like three picks, and I don't even care if

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they're unprotected. If those are, if that's the price tack

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for trade.

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Speaker 2: Is Ron Holland and three three unprotected? Well it's it's

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this year's pick, which is going to be bad, and

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then twenty eight and thirty that's the offer. Fine, fine,

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Like are you doing that as New Orleans? Though I

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might not do it because think about how good the

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Pistons and by the way, that might be unreasonable. But

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Trey Murphy's so good that if if New Orleans' plan

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is to be good before twenty thirty, right, it's so

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I that's just the stance on their team, Like the

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Spurs could come in with four first round picks.

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Speaker 3: The Spur So I'm glad you brought them up because

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it was reported by Tim McMahon. I think it was

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that the Spurs just do not have interest in Gianni

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Sano and so I've kind of like mentally just said,

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all right, that ship is Saled. Who is the next

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up for San Antonio? Because the Spurs have one more

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move in them for sure, And you and I have

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talked about Trey Murphy being like perfect for that system.

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I still agree with that, So like that is the guy.

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If it's because like we've kidden around and talked about

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Denny appduo before, that's not gonna make serialize because the

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Blazers are going to ask for the freaking the moon,

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and rightfully so, Trey Murphy. Trey Murphy is like the

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guide to put into that system. So again they should

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ask for a bunch like Detroit. And if you can

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get into a bidding war between the Pistons and Spurs

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for Trey Murphy, hell yeah, do it, New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: You know what team I would like to see.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't normally advocate when they're this firmly in the

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middle and I don't know when the tides are going

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to turn for them, because it still feels like Denny

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Avia has been great, but I wonder if they need

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their best passer still and we don't know what's happened

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with Scoot Portland.

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Speaker 1: Going in for Trey Murphy would.

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Speaker 2: Be you have you have Drew Clinging, Sharp, Murphy, Denny Avia,

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Tamani Kamara there you have ways to make them like

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Jeremy Grant could be used as the primary salary, and

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they have now that pick that's encumbered to Chicago. They

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can't really promise the first until twenty thirty, but they

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have Orlando's pick in twenty twenty eight, they have the

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Bucks's pick in twenty twenty nine, and they have those

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two swaps with Milwaukee as well in twenty eight and

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twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a team.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're at the right point in

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their competitive life cycle. But that's Trey Murphy on that team.

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My god, I think that would that's like my favorite.

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I think my favorite Trey Murphy destination would be Detroit,

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but the Portland might be my second favorite one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I mean he would come in

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and be a much better version of Jeremy Grant at least,

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I mean, and younger would fit the timeline.

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Speaker 2: More cheaper because you're paying sharp Scoot is technically extension eligible.

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But is that that feels like I would say it's

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a three first round pick situation.

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Speaker 3: Right, and I still wonder what the upside is after that,

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Like he makes them better. Don't get me wrong, obviously

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he does. What is the ceiling of that team? Though?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it still feels like you would have a

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dearth of creation, but like I don't. Sometimes I feel

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like we're underestimating Shade and Sharp And if Scoot just

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gets healthy, he did show a bunch of improvement last year,

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and you have, like again Danny Avvia, they've had, their

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offense is decidedly above average when he is basically their

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point guard. It's the problem is when he's off the court,

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and that assuming Scoot gets healthy or Damian Lillard next year,

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that's a temporary problem.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Donovan Klingon is gonna get better. Sharp

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is gonna get better. All right. I buy it. I

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buy it. I can see the vision. Like hell, Trey

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Murphy is probably gonna get better.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's I don't know what the but as

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New Orleans, if you're getting let's say the Orlando pick

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in twenty eight, the Bucks pick in twenty nine, and

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then what else do we need to throw? Is it

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both bucks swaps? Do you need that to get the

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deal done? Or is it one buck swap?

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Speaker 3: Does that if you're a competent from office in New Orleans,

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that is what you would ask for.

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Speaker 2: At least what both you're saying it needs to be

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both yeah, yeah, you would ask for both, Well, you

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would ask for both. I'm saying minimum. Would you consider

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it for a swap the the Orlando pick, yeah, and

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the and the Bucks pick in twenty nine?

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Speaker 3: I probably would, like, do I go all in and

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pull the trigger? I don't know, but that's at least.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it as New Orleans. I wouldn't as Portland.

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I would as New Orleans, I wouldn't do it. And

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you know what, if you told me they needed both

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swaps as Portland, I start to go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it.

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Speaker 2: This is the problem, But let's move on. I think

474
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,839
the Pelicans keep Trey Murphy, but we've established that. I

475
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:42,079
would say the absolute bare minimum to get New Orleans

476
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,960
to even have like a negotiation is if your offer

477
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,200
doesn't include three real first round picks.

478
00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a non starter.

479
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,759
Speaker 3: I agree.

480
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,279
Speaker 1: Next guy up, Herb Jones.

481
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: His extension is not kicked in yet, but you know

482
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,279
how much he costs moving forward?

483
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,319
Speaker 1: Always a benefit?

484
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: Ah, that is see. I hate that you bring it

485
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,279
up because I'm this is a guy who I struggle

486
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,079
finding like a baseline trade value for as well. Like

487
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,920
so we had the year where he was, you know,

488
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:19,680
a fantastic floor spacer, and we kind of thought, oh, oh,

489
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:22,720
this this might be the new him. If he's a

490
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,720
guy who gives us this switchable defense every single night

491
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:30,279
and he can's forty from three, Holy moly, this this

492
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:34,599
could be like a top tiers, high end starter and

493
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:39,359
like you, probably even more the three point shot has

494
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,880
come back to earth. He so offensively, he's still very raw.

495
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,559
We don't really know fully what his role is offensively speaking.

496
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,039
He's twenty seven, so I think it's fair to say

497
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,359
he's probably not going to take like a substantial leap

498
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,839
from here moving forward, just in terms of like his

499
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,759
offensive evolution. So where does that leave him as a

500
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:08,160
trade asset? Because if he is only a defense like

501
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,400
a great though, but only a defensive player and just

502
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,920
more or less an opportunistic offensive score, what the hell

503
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,839
is that worth in today's NBA?

504
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,039
Speaker 2: See, I think he's the jump shot concerns are just

505
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:29,119
they're real, and that is like definitely a problem. But

506
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,960
I think that he on a different team, there's just

507
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:35,920
and we've seen it too, when he gets going downhill,

508
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,960
like he can be more of a connective type on offense.

509
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't just.

510
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Have to be oh, we need him to shoot forty

511
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,279
two percent or like, what was he at thirty seven

512
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,240
percent on above the break threes in the year you're

513
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:51,680
talking about twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. So for him,

514
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,400
there is limitations there. But I mean, you look at

515
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200
some of the defensive lineups, like that he props up

516
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,400
in New Orleans. That guy is like an on court

517
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,359
culture changer. And so he's twenty seven and I don't know,

518
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,440
how do you feel about the extension that he signed specifically,

519
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,160
because I've seen a lot of different people they're like

520
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,039
they're either I was pretty high on it. I thought

521
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,799
it was fine, or everyone's oh, over twenty million dollars

522
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,559
a year for herb Jones and to contextualize it, it's

523
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,160
going to average out to be less than thirteen percent

524
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,640
of the salary cap.

525
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:33,519
Speaker 3: I liked it when it was signed. But look, look, no,

526
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,880
I mean I'm not hating on it, like I haven't

527
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,680
done a one to eighty. I'm just a little less

528
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,640
high on it now because I thought that like last

529
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,400
year's shooting, you know, I thought it was a blip

530
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,559
last year. I thought it was like, oh, okay, thirty

531
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:50,480
percent from three. You know, he was struggling with the jumper.

532
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,279
I thought, you know that that could just be a

533
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,799
one year thing. The fact that it now seems like

534
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:58,279
it's not just that soured me a little bit. Like

535
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,960
I'm not gonna say it's like an egregious overpay or anything,

536
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:05,720
but it's like it it could have been better now

537
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,759
than what we know. Right. But like at the point

538
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:12,920
in time when you extend him, you're buying into everything.

539
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,960
You're buying into the hope of him also being a

540
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,599
reliable score. Like you, I do agree with you, connecting wise,

541
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,079
there's something there. He might actually be the forward the

542
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Hornet should be going for. Actually, oh that I actually

543
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,559
wrote about this or no, I pitched it.

544
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: I went on the Real GM Radio podcast with Wes Goldberg,

545
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:36,640
and my proposal was Pat Conatan's expiring deal. Yeah, plus

546
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,160
a twenty twenty six first round pick. It's essentially going

547
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,720
to be the least favorable from Phoenix, Orlando or Memphis

548
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,200
plus a twenty twenty seven first round pick. I would

549
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,039
say the second most favorable from Charlotte, Dallas or Miami.

550
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,960
That work financially nine point yeah, because Charlotte has all

551
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,519
that room under the tax that it heard Jones only

552
00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,960
making fourteen million bus.

553
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,039
Speaker 3: Yeah here so cheap right here? Okay, I like that. Yeah.

554
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:06,359
See that's because then you have the connecting piece in

555
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,960
that lineup, right. I like that a lot.

556
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that Charlotte does that. I think they should.

557
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: But I wonder if they would say, we're only going

558
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,720
to give you the least favorable of Dallas, Miami and

559
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:22,400
our own and I don't know if that would be

560
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,640
a deal breaker. Maybe you could sweeten it with seconds,

561
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,359
but I think that's sort of the Herb Jones baseline

562
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,599
for me is I need the equivalent of more than

563
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,559
one first round pick. And that's like, because I'm the

564
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,599
picks that I'm sending out from Charlotte right now, none

565
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,759
of them are elite, and so if you're getting too,

566
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,839
I don't think they will or should be elite.

567
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:42,759
Speaker 1: Just if we're realistically speaking.

568
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. I can get along with that lineup

569
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,559
thinking Again, that's also why it irks me whenever someone

570
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:53,480
says two first round picks, like that's you're saying nothing

571
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,200
like you there are protections like in terms of like

572
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,119
a first round pick is the first overall and it's

573
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,279
the thirtieth overall. Like, let's be specific here, if it's

574
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,160
a lower end first round draft pick, or like a

575
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,400
middle to low end first round draft pick, and two

576
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,119
of them, Yeah, I think.

577
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: That's a fair I think in this case, looking at

578
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240
SO this year, it's the least favorable of Memphis, Orlando

579
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,519
and Phoenix.

580
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: I think you're so.

581
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,599
Speaker 2: I think you're look at two top twenty selections. I

582
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960
don't think any of them are falling or like the

583
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,359
like or averages out to be like. I bet you

584
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,799
one of those picks at least conveys in the teens

585
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:33,039
would be my prediction.

586
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that's not bad for a guy who

587
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:41,119
does change the culture, who defensively is so elite.

588
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,119
Speaker 2: Yes, Now would you do it for DeAndre Hunter? There

589
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,079
probably needs to be another team involved, because the Pelicans

590
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:51,000
want to stay out of the tax. DeAndre Hunter and

591
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:55,759
Cleveland can trade. They're twenty thirty one first round pick?

592
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,400
Is that far out? And what if they say, we'll

593
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,559
give you, let's say a twenty thirty swap and a

594
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,839
twenty thirty one first round pick from Cleveland for Herb

595
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Jones and DeAndre Hunter.

596
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:14,319
Speaker 3: Hmmm, all right, that's that's interesting. So you I'm trying

597
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:16,519
to figure out, like what DeAndre Hunter's role would be

598
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,000
impell in New Orleans.

599
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: You would hope that he just makes threes.

600
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,759
Speaker 2: He's not going to replace Herb's defense, I mean positionally, right, sure,

601
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,279
But I just.

602
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: Maybe it's me. I just don't understand why the pel

603
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,440
what the Pelicans would use DeAndre Hunter for? Like I

604
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,480
don't wouldn't understand what their motivation would be to trade

605
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,240
for Deantre Hunter.

606
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Specifically, he's not part of the value.

607
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: The value as you're getting the pick in the swap

608
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:47,960
is really help? Like why would they trade for pac

609
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,359
Contan would be the same question.

610
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. And the only reason I'm asking is

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,119
because Hunter does require minutes. He's like, he's not bad enough.

612
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,519
You can just spend if.

613
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: Someone needs to play Herb Jones's minutes.

614
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,119
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true, all right, Yeah, okay, I could get

615
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,480
along with that if it's for the picks.

616
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:07,599
Speaker 1: Do you have any other Herb Jones teams that you

617
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,319
find interesting?

618
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,319
Speaker 3: I do not. I think my favorite was Charlotte.

619
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: Charlotte.

620
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him for sure, you know what, And

621
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:15,359
I probably wouldn't have loved him as Charlotte wasn't playing

622
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,960
so well right now our final player. There are other ones,

623
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Sadiq Bay, Jose Alvarado. It's rumored that the Pelicans won

624
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,319
a first round pick for eves Mec. He has one

625
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,480
year left on his deal. They do have Derek Queen.

626
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,119
There doesn't sound like they're itching to trade's ion either.

627
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,880
I don't think they're getting a first round pick, especially

628
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200
because they're not in a position to take back bad money.

629
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,759
Would you trade him for two? What if the Knicks

630
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:42,480
is an example? If one of the seconds they're giving

631
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,079
you is Washington's this year, which is number thirty one,

632
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
is that enough for you to consider as eves Mec

633
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,880
when you're looking at the offensive rebounding, the improvements he's

634
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,640
made defensively, is that just not enough for you to

635
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,319
move off him.

636
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,759
Speaker 3: I just need to be absolutely clear because you said

637
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:00,880
he had one more year. He's a same you're a guy, right,

638
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,400
he's got two more years left?

639
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,559
Speaker 1: Uh? Does he have two more years left on his

640
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:07,039
dealt He only one more year left?

641
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,119
Speaker 3: Yes? He's is he not?

642
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Are you looking at his contract?

643
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Eavest Missy was a yeah, yeah, first

644
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,480
round pick, like four year contract four year rookie deal.

645
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know why I have it as noted.

646
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:25,559
Oh sorry, that was because it's a team off you

647
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,000
use it. He has two more years of cost control

648
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:28,640
left on this deal.

649
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: Okay, BT, Yeah I was. I was just because when

650
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,319
you said, I was like, did they decline four year

651
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,319
option or like?

652
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:34,839
Speaker 1: What?

653
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: Because I like him a great deal because that would

654
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,039
have shocked me. But again, the Pelicans are generally shocking.

655
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,720
So first as first round from me sie as young

656
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:51,920
as he is twenty one, the wingspan is just ridiculous.

657
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,319
He's six eleven. He's got a touch, a great rebounder,

658
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:59,240
a great rookie season compared to expectations. Yeah, he's not

659
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,240
played up to part this year like he you know,

660
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,160
Durry Queen took his spot more or less. That doesn't

661
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,799
mean he's bad. That doesn't mean anything. Really.

662
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean he has it's the touch and hands around

663
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,799
the basket, really, and I'm just wondering if if he

664
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,640
has better or i'll say more conventional playmakers around him

665
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160
in better spacing, does that change.

666
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is just so.

667
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Among everyone's who's logged at least five hundred minutes this season,

668
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,279
MESI and Mitchell Robinson are the only players who rank

669
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,799
in the ninetieth percent. Tyler better of both offensive rebounding

670
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,319
impact and their block rate on shots that they can test.

671
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,400
I maybe it's so like Boston if you can get

672
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720
their twenty twenty six first round pick, maybe that's like

673
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:49,039
a realistic because that's what in the twenties at that point.

674
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: That would be fun. I didn't even so this is

675
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,960
an interesting thing. Like I knew that Messi had a

676
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,440
good reputation as an offensive rebounder dating back to his

677
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:03,480
rookue season. I had not fully acknowledged just how beastly

678
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,599
he's been on the offensive last this year in limited minutes.

679
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,639
Jesus Christ, Okay.

680
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: I think you can make the case. Now, what does

681
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,719
he look like if he's your starter? I think it's

682
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,800
I think team context would just matter a bunch there.

683
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,920
And I mean the bigger thing for me is just

684
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,000
I don't know what the scoring upside is with him.

685
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,599
It's just because like he's not someone who scores or

686
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,400
makes i'll say, great decisions when he is coming down

687
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,360
with an offensive rebound necessarily.

688
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow.

689
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,039
Speaker 2: I just looked at a thirty eighth percentile of efficiency

690
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,199
after on his put back attempts not.

691
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,639
Speaker 3: Great, but that is that is a problem, Like I

692
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,280
will say it, you kind of you kind of said it,

693
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,719
So I'm gonna piggyback off of that. In terms of

694
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,360
the contextual the roster, the roster has to make sense,

695
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,199
Like wherever he ends up, it has to be tailored

696
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,599
to be able to carry his archetype of player for sure,

697
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,400
because otherwise giving up at first is expensive.

698
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Would you do it?

699
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,639
Speaker 2: What does like three seconds, like three real seconds that

700
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,639
maybe two of them have a chance of conveying in

701
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:12,159
the thirties.

702
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: Does that make you consider it? Or no?

703
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: I would? I would? I mean that's that's at least interesting. Yes.

704
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,639
Speaker 2: So the just the final thing, what do you think

705
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,039
when you're building out this team, not that they should

706
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:29,079
go out and actively buy. What's the one like functional

707
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,039
aspect that they need more of.

708
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: This is going to sound so harsh, but like just

709
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,960
cost controlled assets that are reliable And what I what

710
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I mean by that is, you know, Deyonce Murray obviously

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on the hook for thirty point eight million this year,

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for two point seven million next year, got a player

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option to boot the year after injured. You can't really

714
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rely on him being fully healthy at any point. Jordan

715
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Poole is also in the thirties. He's been dreadful, Like

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you just think. I think the biggest need is just

717
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getting cleaner books. Honestly, moving forward, the books are not cleaned.

718
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,079
This is a pretty big shit show of a roster,

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Like the money you've allocated to certain players are just

720
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not worth the squeeze at all. So I think that's

721
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the biggest need is streamline your freaking books. Pelicans, They're

722
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,519
not streamlined at all. They're they're a mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get and they don't really get cleaned up

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until twenty twenty eight unless you think, I mean, if

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you think Murray might decline his player option, maybe after

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next season, but after those centuries like, no way, that's

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a good call out, I would say, functionally speaking, I

728
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want to see them if they can just get shooters,

729
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and I had them as when I thought when we

730
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thought Michael Porter Junior was on a net negative deal,

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I thought he would have been great here. I'm more

732
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so talking like I want wings three and d wings

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or just pure shooters.

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Speaker 1: And so give me Sam Hauser.

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Speaker 2: If Boston's trying to do something, especially if they're you

736
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know you're sending out Mesi to them, Corey Kispert when

737
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we shout out your guy there, Moses Moody even like

738
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,920
depending on what the warriors we're looking to do, those

739
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,239
type just go out and get Can you get Shima

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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Kayle Luke from Utah at this point, Uh, there's like

741
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a just name you're a shooter and you'll I'll be

742
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:27,679
hard pressed to say that. I don't want them on

743
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,079
the Pelicans. I want if you're keeping Zion, if you're

744
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,800
keeping Queen, you need more Trey Murphy's. They don't have

745
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,480
to be as good as Trey Murphy's, but you need

746
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,480
someone who can provide a comparable level of offensive bankability

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as a as a floor spacer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 2: Do you have anything else on the Pelicans? How many Eves, mecI,

750
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:53,000
Herb Jones, Uh, Trey Murphy and Zion over under zero

751
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:56,800
point five of those four getting traded over.

752
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not convinced.

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00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,599
Speaker 2: Me see, makes it a wild card, makes it maybe

754
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:03,880
easy a little easier to go over, But I'm not convinced.

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Speaker 1: I might I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: To need the wild card sig on.

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, I mean, I'm I'll be if they

758
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:15,360
do move him, I'll be curious to see what it's for. Honestly,

759
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:17,760
we did all this, they're gonna end up buying. They're

760
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,119
gonna trade for Grannis or something. It's Can you just

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tell everyone where they can find you and all your work?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, you can find a work of right Yahu

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Speaker 2: Until next time, please remember to rate, review, subscribe. Wherever

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Speaker 2: And finally, but not leastly, shout out to mister Frank

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