Speaker 1: The Boundless Authenticity Podcast.
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to the Boundless Authenticity Podcast You
Speaker 2: Guessed It, where we discuss everything related to the evolution
Speaker 2: of human consciousness. Today, our return guest Heidi, who is
Speaker 2: a cult survivor X Mormon as well as a researcher
Speaker 2: and host of the Unfiltered Rice podcast, we'll be answering
Speaker 2: a fundamental question. Is there a connection to the CIA
Speaker 2: and the Mormon faith? Now, the connection between the CIA
Speaker 2: and the Mormon Church or the Church of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: the Latter day Saints or LDS Church, or whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it. It's a topic that has been
Speaker 2: speculated upon by researchers and critics, but it's not widely
Speaker 2: discussed in mainstream sources.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I wonder why that could be.
Speaker 2: So, if you're exploring this connection, it's essential to approach
Speaker 2: the topic with critical thinking and open mindedness. HEDI, how's
Speaker 2: it going.
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to
Speaker 3: talk to you about this. And we were kind of
Speaker 3: talking before we went on about Sola's corporational greed. Right,
Speaker 3: we're going to get into Sola's corporational greed. I want
Speaker 3: you to check out these photos I present later and
Speaker 3: their eyes, yeah, because I'm pretty sure they got some
Speaker 3: issues going on. But as always, I love to bring
Speaker 3: a slide show because I feel a picture is worth
Speaker 3: a thousand words. You have to understand the Mormon community
Speaker 3: to understand the fact that they are in a cognitive
Speaker 3: dissonance perpetually and they do not really like to accept
Speaker 3: things that are negative, and it's just been bred into us.
Speaker 3: And I was once one of those people that would
Speaker 3: have said, if somebody presented me some information, even with facts,
Speaker 3: even with you know, go google it, go check this,
Speaker 3: I would have still said, hmm, that's not real, Like
Speaker 3: it's a spell. I truly believe it is a spell.
Speaker 3: But you know me and my crazy theories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what I talk about, and I
Speaker 2: mean I say these things with love, and people don't
Speaker 2: see it that way because there's also a lot of
Speaker 2: compassion and empathy applied to it. Because I've been a
Speaker 2: human being my whole life too, and I know that,
Speaker 2: especially with the people that I encounter, there is a
Speaker 2: level of mind control involved in the reason why they
Speaker 2: are over here, but they want to be over there,
Speaker 2: and it's just like that in every arena of life.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Where you're from, what your culture is, what you believe.
Speaker 2: You are probably under mind control. You are probably denying
Speaker 2: the reality of something in your life. And every religion
Speaker 2: seems to have that same basic fundamental subconscious framework where
Speaker 2: in order for you to buy into it, you must
Speaker 2: be asleep to a whole other side of things that
Speaker 2: you don't even understand. You don't know if they're true.
Speaker 2: You probably deny some part of your own human existence.
Speaker 2: You probably deny things that are painful in your own life.
Speaker 2: But the reason that you get involved in something on
Speaker 2: such a strong level is either because you were born
Speaker 2: into it or you experienced crisis. And crisis as a
Speaker 2: word sounds worse than it is, but crisis in the
Speaker 2: context of any psycho therapeutical or counseling or helping modality
Speaker 2: means there's a disconnect between how you feel and where
Speaker 2: you are your life circumstance, and the situation you're in
Speaker 2: and where you actually want to be with your emotional
Speaker 2: state of being. But people have been brainwashed. We all have,
Speaker 2: and the only person that is responsible for fixing that
Speaker 2: is us. Because when it comes to the deep rewiring
Speaker 2: and the questioning of beliefs. Only you can do that.
Speaker 2: No one else can do it for you. There's no
Speaker 2: podcast on the Internet that has the answers for you.
Speaker 2: There is no book in any bookstore or on audible
Speaker 2: or any of those things that has the answer for you. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: you have to come to grips with the truth of
Speaker 2: what's going on. I'm going to end my speech there
Speaker 2: and let you talk.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I actually think it's really important what you said today
Speaker 3: because we are going to get into a little bit
Speaker 3: of mental health problems here, and it's just the way
Speaker 3: it went on this journey, which I'll hurry and push
Speaker 3: present because I think that it's so important for people
Speaker 3: to understand that people do not comprehend what other people
Speaker 3: will do to actually.
Speaker 1: Try and semi fix their life. Right, this guy is
Speaker 1: that we're going to speak of, and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: share here. It just says I have to have your permission.
Speaker 1: Let's see there we go.
Speaker 3: So I feel like this all started because of the
Speaker 3: fact that this guy had a really screwed up life.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately it's funny that we can't go back in
Speaker 3: time and be like, oh, sorry about it, you know,
Speaker 3: we we would love to help you, but we just
Speaker 3: simply can't. Okay, let's see if we can. Can you
Speaker 3: see this, okay, okay?
Speaker 1: Perfect?
Speaker 3: So this is the Nuclear National Nuclear Security Administration, and
Speaker 3: this is going to come into play later. I like
Speaker 3: to post these old photos because, like I said, a
Speaker 3: picture's worth a thousand words. But when we get into
Speaker 3: why this coming up person got into the whole Mormon mafia,
Speaker 3: which isn't the real mafia when people, well, it has little,
Speaker 3: it touches. The Mormons touch with everything. They're always touchy, touchy, touchy.
Speaker 3: Their fingerprints are on everything in the universe, I swear
Speaker 3: to you. But again, here we are with a situation
Speaker 3: where Mormons actually built the first settlement that was permanent
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, and this happened the first time in
Speaker 3: eighteen fifty five. But it was a horrible situation. They
Speaker 3: couldn't get anything to grow. I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: ever been to Vegas, it's like one hundred and seventeen
Speaker 3: in the summer. It's insane. So it's not a great
Speaker 3: place to go do a settlement. And also it's curious
Speaker 3: to me, just as the settlement and Salt Lake City
Speaker 3: was curious to me. We have brig I'm Young running
Speaker 3: for his life. He's trying to get away and have
Speaker 3: his fifty five polygamous wives, and he wants away from
Speaker 3: the government. And as soon as he gets to Salt
Speaker 3: Lake what does he do. He's like, Hey, let's build
Speaker 3: a railroad.
Speaker 1: Hah.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what come on? Joseph Smith dies. Then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Brigham Young, who is a huge
Speaker 3: money guy. I'm pretty sure he had black eyes, but
Speaker 3: the pictures are black and white, right, But he was
Speaker 3: greedy and he was, you know, very corporatized in his thinking. Now,
Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with wanting a little bit more in life,
Speaker 3: but when you get too much, we have never seen
Speaker 3: a good outcome with people that have so much they
Speaker 3: don't know what to do with it. And I truly
Speaker 3: believe this happened with Brigham Young. He approaches the railroad,
Speaker 3: he uses his people for free labor to make that happen.
Speaker 3: And what is Salt Lake City, Utah? We have California,
Speaker 3: we have the East Coast, and what is kind of
Speaker 3: in the middle of this, Okay, we have Utah. Utah
Speaker 3: is a good place to say, can I go north south?
Speaker 3: East and west from Utah. Now you can because there's
Speaker 3: uh oh da Dah, there's a railroad, and so Promontory
Speaker 3: Point is actually in Utah where the railroads combine, and
Speaker 3: so all of this stuff is happening, and he is
Speaker 3: still continuing to settle things that don't make any sense, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: go settle a freaking desert like that sounds like a
Speaker 3: fantastic idea. And they came back and said, yo, it
Speaker 3: is not it's not good. And all they built this
Speaker 3: outpost four was for supplies, which even further makes me
Speaker 3: know they are supplying and trying to make money off
Speaker 3: of the people traveling from one side of the country
Speaker 3: to the other side of the country and back again.
Speaker 3: So their first attempt did fail and it was abandoned.
Speaker 3: And then in eighteen fifty seven they left and kind
Speaker 3: of settled some of the little towns circling that area.
Speaker 1: Why I do not know. I've been to these towns.
Speaker 3: My uncle lived in Bunkerville, that's one that's specifically mentioned.
Speaker 3: It is just dust and despair. I don't I don't know,
Speaker 3: but they did. They settled it, and this still stands today,
Speaker 3: this outpost. So they did at least know how I mean,
Speaker 3: they were Amazons after all, but it stands today in
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. So this brings us to our next curious
Speaker 3: player in the Mormon saga that shouldn't be long. Okay,
Speaker 3: the touch, touch, touch, This is Howard Hughes. And Howard
Speaker 3: Hughes is such a curious, curious person. He there has
Speaker 3: been movies built on Howard Hughes. I dare say to
Speaker 3: people that this United States of America without Howard Hughes
Speaker 3: and the CIA would not exist the same today without
Speaker 3: him and his a quote unquote influence. But I don't
Speaker 3: know we'll get there. This is Howard when he's younger,
Speaker 3: I'm guessing middle aged. And the sad thing about Howard
Speaker 3: Hughes is, this is why I mentioned mental help is
Speaker 3: by nineteen seventy four, Howard Hughes was a huge recluse.
Speaker 3: This is kind of a drawing of what has become
Speaker 3: of Howard Hughes. He went to Vegas and they could
Speaker 3: not get him out of his room. So they say, now,
Speaker 3: do I think that that's the truth. You know me,
Speaker 3: I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I will tell you this.
Speaker 3: He didn't come out of that room for nearly a year,
Speaker 3: and he was actually so bad that he would run
Speaker 3: around naked and all these things in this hotel. So
Speaker 3: we've got the pre Let's go crazy and the post.
Speaker 3: But he bought the Desert in because they said, bro,
Speaker 3: you can't be running around naked being crazy in our hotel,
Speaker 3: and said, good, get out.
Speaker 1: I'm going to buy it then, So he did, and
Speaker 1: that was his first purchase.
Speaker 3: And it's actually curious that it even went through because
Speaker 3: he refused to have any He wouldn't fill out any
Speaker 3: financial disclosures, he wouldn't give any form of ID.
Speaker 1: He was super super super OCD.
Speaker 3: And his mom, I believe, in my nursing opinion, had
Speaker 3: Munchausen by proxy because she was really really crazy when
Speaker 3: he was young about him getting sick, and she was
Speaker 3: constantly talking about him getting sick, and it leads to
Speaker 3: this in later life. This is a reenactment from a film,
Speaker 3: but this is really what was going on with Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3: He was held up for a year in this hotel room.
Speaker 3: He got so wild that he wouldn't cut his nails,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't cut his hair. He started wearing clean xboxes
Speaker 3: on his feet. He was a germaphobe. He was completely
Speaker 3: freaked out about germs he hated. In fact, he never
Speaker 3: hardly ever met with any of the people that he
Speaker 3: worked with, which leads to some major problems here. So
Speaker 3: when you are a broken person and you recluse inside
Speaker 3: yourself and you trust others to run things, look, people
Speaker 3: are going to be people in and boy did they
Speaker 3: people it up like it's a mess. If you notice
Speaker 3: this is an actual real photo of him, he wouldn't
Speaker 3: cut his weird fingernail, like I don't know if he
Speaker 3: was going to stab somebody in the eye with that
Speaker 3: if they came for him. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: was a parent on what, but very strange behavior. He
Speaker 3: also was down. He was almost six foot three and
Speaker 3: he was down to like ninety eight pounds when they
Speaker 3: got him, and so they actually couldn't fully recognize who
Speaker 3: he was, and he had to be fingerprinted to confirm
Speaker 3: that it was actually him. After he died, he supposedly
Speaker 3: had round the clockner sin cared. This is one of
Speaker 3: the richest people in the world, okay, And he died
Speaker 3: full of bed sores and emaciated, and he actually had
Speaker 3: to be flown out of Las Vegas on a stretcher,
Speaker 3: never to return. And this happened on Thanksgiving Day in
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: He was extracted from there, they literally said, extracted to
Speaker 1: the Bahamas.
Speaker 3: And then he never returned to Las Vegas. And he
Speaker 3: died in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 1: And supposedly this rich, rich, rich guy that's this savvy businessman,
Speaker 1: and will get into how savvy he was, left no will. Okay,
Speaker 1: my eye, he left no will.
Speaker 3: I do not believe that for one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3: I really and it was way more than that that
Speaker 3: he left. Huh So, Howard Hughes, why is he even important?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Why does he matter? He was this drug addicted guy. Well,
Speaker 1: I also want to mention one thing.
Speaker 3: He was so quote unquote drug addicted that when he
Speaker 3: died they found multiple and I mean copious amounts of
Speaker 3: broken off hypodermic needles inside of his arms. Okay, let
Speaker 3: me explain something, people, and not just his arms, his
Speaker 3: body in general. You don't break off syringes in your
Speaker 3: own arm when you're doing it and you're a professional
Speaker 3: drug addict, that doesn't happen by the first time. You
Speaker 3: might blow a vein you might mess it up, but
Speaker 3: by the fifth time you got this down. If you
Speaker 3: ever doubt me, go watch the show Intervention and see
Speaker 3: how quick they can tap a vein. These people know
Speaker 3: what they're doing. And when you're putting the needle in
Speaker 3: all the way, which you never do, ivy drug users
Speaker 3: only need to put in a tiny bit of that
Speaker 3: needle to get the hub in there where the little
Speaker 3: hole is, and that's it. Why would you be sinking
Speaker 3: a needle? Well, I can explain that to you because
Speaker 3: I work in mental health facilities. We sink needles when
Speaker 3: we have to control someone we think needles and possibly
Speaker 3: could have a needle break off when we are holding
Speaker 3: them against their will and have to do that because
Speaker 3: they are going to harm themselves or another person. Now
Speaker 3: do I think maybe he was going to harm himself,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He seems more of a passive recluse from what everybody describes.
Speaker 3: He wasn't described as violent, he wasn't described as a menace,
Speaker 3: and it's just completely sad that this all happened to him.
Speaker 3: And it's going to come into a reasoning as to
Speaker 3: why this is important. But he is intrical and not
Speaker 3: only the Mormon mafia, but this country in general even
Speaker 3: to this day. So one of the things that the
Speaker 3: CIA is associated with, in true James Bond fashion, right,
Speaker 3: was this Glomar explored open to the lower massive grappling clause,
Speaker 3: capable of bringing up parts of a submarine. And he
Speaker 3: was the one that funded this, and this was an
Speaker 3: actual project that is now declassified, and he was the
Speaker 3: one that backed this project. In fact, he backed many
Speaker 3: projects for the CIA, which I find super interesting because
Speaker 3: why on earth does a movie star care about a
Speaker 3: CIA operation?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: That doesn't even that doesn't make sense. And he's involved
Speaker 3: with the CIA. Uh lot. That project, in case anybody
Speaker 3: wants to look it up, is called Project A Zorion
Speaker 3: Azo r ia N. And he was completely like in
Speaker 3: the midst of it, and he was, you know, they
Speaker 3: were trying to pick up the submarine off the bottom
Speaker 3: of the ground. Not only that, but he owned the
Speaker 3: Spruce Goose. He also owned multiple other strange things that
Speaker 3: were like kind of associated with flying and boats and
Speaker 3: all this stuff. And he becomes an owner of multiple
Speaker 3: companies and with that he he needs help because this
Speaker 3: guy is completely you know, he's a recluse, he's not
Speaker 3: going to meet with anybody. He's not going to talk
Speaker 3: to anybody in person hardly at all, ever, And so
Speaker 3: he ends up hooking up with this guy right here.
Speaker 3: And this guy's name is Bill Mayhew, and he is
Speaker 3: the only non Mormon in the Mormon mafia. So Mayhew
Speaker 3: was a detective firm history, but he had also been
Speaker 3: in the CIA.
Speaker 1: And the FBI. And I have to tell you guys,
Speaker 1: his life. Mayhew's life is actually what Double O seven
Speaker 1: is based off of. And so can you hear me? Okay? Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can hear you? Just find oh okay good.
Speaker 3: So his life was based off of double or Double
Speaker 3: O seven was based off of him. That's how intecol
Speaker 3: of CIA, FBI ops we have here. So he was
Speaker 3: originally hired by Hughes and introduced to him because of
Speaker 3: his wife Jean. His wife Jean, he was he was
Speaker 3: kind of obsessed with her, and I think I did.
Speaker 1: Include a picture, but let me look really quickly, and
Speaker 1: he but he couldn't.
Speaker 3: It's so strange. He wouldn't be around her and he
Speaker 3: just wanted to look at her for twenty minutes a
Speaker 3: day and then let her go on her way.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: But she's really pretty, and so if she would let
Speaker 3: him just look at her for twenty minutes, he would
Speaker 3: let her go. I don't he's never had children, he
Speaker 3: was never like that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know with his severeness of OCD if
Speaker 1: he would be able to have actual physical contact. But
Speaker 1: I'm not in his bedroom, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just know that he was really strange with her,
Speaker 3: and she lived like in a different room, she lived
Speaker 3: in different area, like all the things and so, but
Speaker 3: he was so obsessed with her that literally when he
Speaker 3: had moved to Vegas, the first place he stayed I
Speaker 3: think was one of the places Let's see with her,
Speaker 3: and it's called the green let me see it's pretty
Speaker 3: weird story the green Room or something like that, And
Speaker 3: he ordered it to never be changed ever again and
Speaker 3: kept it that way for the rest of time, like
Speaker 3: it was like a time capsule. And that's really like
Speaker 3: just because like they had time there together. It was
Speaker 3: super crazy, and so he lived there for a year
Speaker 3: then ordered it to be kept exactly the same and
Speaker 3: never returned. So that was actually called a small five
Speaker 3: room cottage near the desert in called the green House, so,
Speaker 3: and I don't even know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's still like that for all we know, it
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 3: But this Mayhew, like I said, he he was in
Speaker 3: the CIA. He goes clear up, you guys, I have
Speaker 3: to tell you, this guy goes into Saudi Arabia, king
Speaker 3: on Nassas Nixon. This guy's a former spy. He delivered
Speaker 3: a ton of politicians and Nixon, and I'm telling you, guys,
Speaker 3: he's all over the board. Well at first, when he's
Speaker 3: introduced to Howard Hughes, he's intrical because he's undercover with
Speaker 3: the mob and you can't just come, you know, into
Speaker 3: Las Vegas at this point and be like, yo, we're
Speaker 3: gonna just take you know, on another little casino or whatever,
Speaker 3: because the mob was running it and the mob had
Speaker 3: to pay homage to the people. And we've all probably
Speaker 3: seen casino that was real. They were skimming off the top,
Speaker 3: everybody was taking a cut.
Speaker 1: It wasn't organized. It was all crazy.
Speaker 3: And so for this he was with and associated with
Speaker 3: Sam g and Conna. And Sam g and Conna is
Speaker 3: not a huge mobster, like he's just not.
Speaker 1: I'll pull his picture. Sam g and Conna is really
Speaker 1: kind of an unknown. I mean, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: known of him, but he's not overly excitingly known. His
Speaker 1: nickname was Momo, and you know, you can look up
Speaker 1: a little on him. But he was from Chicago.
Speaker 3: He was part of that whole CIA or a mobster branch,
Speaker 3: while Mayhew's part of the CIA trying to infiltrate it.
Speaker 1: And so he kind of brings them together. And also
Speaker 1: the only other thing sam Gy and Kanna is known
Speaker 1: for is he directly helped JFK get into office.
Speaker 3: And so, I mean there's ties with Watergate, all kinds
Speaker 3: of things here, but this gets into, like I said,
Speaker 3: some weird stuff. So when he comes in, Sam kind
Speaker 3: of helps Hughes obtain some of these casinos. But Sam
Speaker 3: kind of disappears rather quickly. He kind of screwed himself.
Speaker 3: He kind of shot himself in the foot because once
Speaker 3: this guy got involved, this Mayhew, he brings in some
Speaker 3: other people and one of them is gay. This guy's
Speaker 3: named Kay, not that he's Kay, and this guy we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about here soon, but he's also intecral
Speaker 3: in them basically making a huge monopoly out of Las
Speaker 3: Vegas and corporatizing it.
Speaker 1: Well, once it's corporatized and under this Sumacre corporation, which
Speaker 1: we will talk about, it turns into something that I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody ever could have foreseen. But Mayhew also
Speaker 1: brings some contracts for Hughes with a different situation in
Speaker 1: the CIA, because Hughes owned so many companies at this point.
Speaker 1: He owned a helicopter company, he owned a plane company,
Speaker 1: he owned a tool company, he owned I mean, this guy,
Speaker 1: like even to this day, there is so many companies
Speaker 1: owned and or started by Howard Hughes that I think
Speaker 1: people would be actually shocked. So I have a tiny
Speaker 1: list here, and so the first one is Hughes Aerospace Group,
Speaker 1: formed in nineteen forty eight, and then that was from
Speaker 1: a tool company that he started that was small in
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two. Then in nineteen fifty three he starts
Speaker 1: the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. Then he also forms a
Speaker 1: helicopter division called the Aircraft Division inside of the actual
Speaker 1: plane company. And then he starts Hughes Space and Communications,
Speaker 1: which I found was super interesting because it was formed
Speaker 1: bringing together Hughes Space and Communication Group and space systems
Speaker 1: and that has to do with like satellite formation and
Speaker 1: all kinds of things well, then he starts Hughes Research
Speaker 1: Laboratories and then the Suma Corporation comes up, and so
Speaker 1: that includes the tool Co Aircraft property and that turns
Speaker 1: into Hughes Helicopters. And so this goes down the line
Speaker 1: clear until this gets taken on by Raytheon, And actually
Speaker 1: to this day, these Hughes companies are acquired by some
Speaker 1: of the biggest things in the world, including the Hughes
Speaker 1: Electronics was merged on the satellite part for the what
Speaker 1: was it, Direct TV and GM and aerospace defense technicians.
Speaker 1: Hughes Aircraft, like I said, turned into Boeing eventually through Raytheon.
Speaker 1: This gets crazy, like you would never believe this, like
Speaker 1: this seemingly like Okay, he's a movie star, like who cares? Right, No,
Speaker 1: I'm almost certain that he himself was CIA. He's CIA affiliated,
Speaker 1: but he.
Speaker 3: Wasn't confirmed CIA and the CIA won't comment on it. Well,
Speaker 3: Samy Hugh brings in these mobsters, they eventually run them
Speaker 3: out of town, and I'll tell you how that happens.
Speaker 3: But also he brings in these contracts for the helicopter
Speaker 3: business through them for the CIA, and they are like
Speaker 3: exclusive for the CIA. So when we're talking about this stuff.
Speaker 3: Like he he was kind of the integral side guy.
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, this other guy pops in
Speaker 3: and the E Perry Thomas and Frank Gate and they
Speaker 3: kind of kick him out. And those two are Mormons,
Speaker 3: so they basically said, oh, he was stealing. Mayhew's stealing
Speaker 3: from you. You should fire him. He's causing all kinds
Speaker 3: of problems. And so actually he was disparaged out in
Speaker 3: front of everyone, basically said he couldn't get another job
Speaker 3: because Howard hughesa disparaged him so bad and basically said
Speaker 3: he was a thief. And so after that happened, it
Speaker 3: got really ugly for him as far as being able
Speaker 3: to get a job or anything. So this gets into E.
Speaker 3: Perry Thomas, and I have to tell you his nickname.
Speaker 3: E Perry Thomas was a Mormon. He was from Selics
Speaker 3: and he actually was the first banker to open up
Speaker 3: lending to casino operators. He acted as a buyer for
Speaker 3: Hughes and he is known as the silent Kingmaker. He's
Speaker 3: in control of everything at this point, and honestly, like
Speaker 3: he took over in such a huge level that Howard
Speaker 3: Hughes ended up like buying up so many things. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was buying like all kinds, like the Golden Nugget
Speaker 3: and like all these other casinos, and it just like
Speaker 3: led into this crazy finance.
Speaker 1: Like basically empire. It wasn't even just a corporation. This
Speaker 1: is an empire at this point. And so you know,
Speaker 1: this other guy comes in to help out. This is
Speaker 1: the banking side of things. Oh, I hate when it
Speaker 1: does that.
Speaker 3: And e Perry Thomas again there's an updated photo. And
Speaker 3: then he also is going to be integral and later
Speaker 3: at where Vegas goes because this is Steve winn Or
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Stephen when is the last name. I
Speaker 3: can't remember the first name. So he actually ends up
Speaker 3: helping him a bunch with everything. And remember he's the
Speaker 3: one that gets to decide who goes where, what, how
Speaker 3: why because he's kind of over everything. He's integral in
Speaker 3: the Sumacore Corporation. And you have to know that actually
Speaker 3: he has a history of being in the CIA as well.
Speaker 1: So these people.
Speaker 3: Are all made, they're being aligned with him on purpose.
Speaker 3: They're all just basically taking mad advantage of this guy.
Speaker 1: And I just think it's strange that, you know, they
Speaker 1: even cared. I mean, why why would they care about
Speaker 1: this movie stars Empire?
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. But we're going to get
Speaker 3: into another guy. This one. This is he actually was
Speaker 3: a senator until he passed away. I think because they're
Speaker 3: forever right, and it's Bennett. He was involved in everything,
Speaker 3: and he was one of the first Mormon senators that
Speaker 3: was able to serve like for them, and so it
Speaker 3: was very strange that all of a sudden he comes
Speaker 3: into play on this and I'm sure that e. Perry
Speaker 3: Thomas hooked them up together. The thing about this guy
Speaker 3: is not a lot of people knew, but he was
Speaker 3: also CIA. It came out in the Watergate scandal because
Speaker 3: he was a part of.
Speaker 1: The whole thing.
Speaker 3: And really Howard Hughes wanted Nixon in and he wanted
Speaker 3: to control him. And so this guy here is a
Speaker 3: big part of the Zuma Corporation.
Speaker 1: He actually ran it for four years. And like I said, again,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the CIA. So we've got another guy
Speaker 1: that comes on the scene. Oh, let's read this really quick.
Speaker 3: So it just tells you about not the whole thing,
Speaker 3: but just how he kind of got in. He had
Speaker 3: originally been a chaplain and then he got into Chief
Speaker 3: Congressional Liaison in Department of Transportation, and then he ends
Speaker 3: up with Howard Hughes with that clientele, and then later
Speaker 3: was discovered a company was CIA Agency Front Organizations. So
Speaker 3: these companies aren't even necessarily quote unquote real, right, so
Speaker 3: they buy companies, they're making tons of money. Everybody's just
Speaker 3: using this guy's name literally, And so this is one
Speaker 3: of the people leaving the Senate Watergate Committee hearings. I
Speaker 3: believe that was May Hugh or Chester Davis, Oh, SUMA Council,
Speaker 3: SUMA Core. So this is another one on SUMA Core.
Speaker 3: And we'll get to this one in a minute. We
Speaker 3: gotta get to where did it go? Let me go
Speaker 3: back out.
Speaker 1: We got to get too gay and so I know
Speaker 1: his last name is funny, but that's actually his last name.
Speaker 1: So we've got Perry Thomas, and then we've got Gay,
Speaker 1: who is also an integral part of things, not necessarily
Speaker 1: on the banking side.
Speaker 3: But he becomes he was an errand boy, which is
Speaker 3: so wild. He just becomes this errand boy and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, next thing, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Think that's Perry Thomas again. Maybe I didn't put his
Speaker 1: photo in. I'll be sad if I didn't.
Speaker 3: So anyway, he becomes part of this whole corporation. He
Speaker 3: works his way up from being just like an errand
Speaker 3: boy literally, and he was a huge problem when it
Speaker 3: comes to Frank Gay when it comes to the will.
Speaker 3: We're going to get to the will here in a bit,
Speaker 3: but it was a mess. And so you have to
Speaker 3: remember how much money this guy is basically amassing with
Speaker 3: all of these corporations. He's not only got CIA connections
Speaker 3: through these two Mormon men that are basically running his companies.
Speaker 3: In fact, Gay kicked Howard Hughes off his own board.
Speaker 1: Frank W. Gay was on the board.
Speaker 3: His stenographer ended up on his board, which somebody must
Speaker 3: have had the hots for her. I don't know how
Speaker 3: that happens, and multiple other people, but he was literally
Speaker 3: running this show.
Speaker 1: And he is the CEO of Sumacor and so he
Speaker 1: also was in the CIA unbeknownst to them.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he used to be a paratrooper and he
Speaker 3: started his own companies later with Enzign Peaks, but he
Speaker 3: also started like other like umbrella companies. Underneath this situation
Speaker 3: with Howard Hughes's name that he didn't even know he had,
Speaker 3: Like he didn't even know anything about these companies.
Speaker 1: So I mean, talk about talk about some swindlers. These
Speaker 1: are supposed to be people that are, you know, upstanding
Speaker 1: in the government, Like Mormons are not known for their
Speaker 1: naughty behavior like this, like this is something different than
Speaker 1: what we're used to seeing, right, Like when you hear
Speaker 1: of a Mormon, do you think like all this stuff
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know what I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying right taking it all in it
Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa, it is wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, Las Vegas would not exist without these men.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about Howard Hughes. Howard Qes
Speaker 1: was probably drugged and held hostage in his hotel room
Speaker 1: at this point, Like these two Mormon guys are running
Speaker 1: the show. They even kicked Mayhew, the main guy that
Speaker 1: was in the CIA that brought all these contracts out.
Speaker 1: They kicked him out and they said, you know, you're
Speaker 1: a piece of crap whatever, whatever. They just wanted him
Speaker 1: out of the way.
Speaker 3: And so when that happened, he took them to court
Speaker 3: because he's like, you know what, you don't own my contract.
Speaker 3: The only person that owns my contract is Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3: So I want to hear it from Howard Hughes's mouth. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, he's a recluse. He's definitely not going to
Speaker 3: do it. He didn't do it, and he wouldn't comply.
Speaker 1: So he ends up paying him a ton of money,
Speaker 1: like millions of dollars, like so much money it was crazy,
Speaker 1: And so he ends up winning. He won, He went
Speaker 1: and got that money back because of this all and
Speaker 1: so it was just a strange like a strange whole
Speaker 1: thing of events. But the weirder part is is how
Speaker 1: it goes on in the future. So you guys have
Speaker 1: to know that this stuff is passed down. This is
Speaker 1: Gay's son and his name is Robert Gay. He ends
Speaker 1: up in the Quorum of the seventy, which is okay.
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about Mormons, like there's the Quorum
Speaker 1: of the twelve and then the Qualm of the seventy.
Speaker 1: This is a big, huge deal. This is like not
Speaker 1: just some little thing that just happens, like you have
Speaker 1: to basically be made to even make it. Like I
Speaker 1: used to think when I was in there, like oh,
Speaker 1: they just pray about who they're supposed to have and
Speaker 1: it could be anybody, right, you could have like the
Speaker 1: most nicest guy in there that God just like put them.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: So these people all come up, they have them basically
Speaker 3: come up through the Boy Scouts. As they're coming up
Speaker 3: through the Boy Scouts, they start kind of help seeing
Speaker 3: how they're doing with like programming, and then by the
Speaker 3: time they get to college, they either end up in
Speaker 3: Sigma Kai or one of these fraternities, and then it
Speaker 3: ends up in Skull and Bones at the University of Utah,
Speaker 3: which no big surprise. I mean, this is not These
Speaker 3: people that run the Mormon Church are not there by
Speaker 3: accident at at all. These people are made men inside there.
Speaker 1: And so when we'll get to more connects on that
Speaker 1: even okay, so like I said.
Speaker 2: We'll stop you there quickly because okay, so just to
Speaker 2: keep everybody in the loop, what we've done is we've
Speaker 2: answered some pretty serious questions, which is, what is the
Speaker 2: history of Mormons serving in the CIA. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's possible to answer the question how many individuals are involved,
Speaker 2: because it's probably hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah, all
Speaker 2: the top also kind of gotten into like how the
Speaker 2: CIA because you just mentioned skull and Bones. We all
Speaker 2: know that that's just a funnel to the CIA. But
Speaker 2: you've pretty much answered the question how has the CIA
Speaker 2: recruited members of the Mormon faith? So, I mean, we
Speaker 2: know in politics this is going to be rampant because
Speaker 2: that's one of the places that they go to.
Speaker 1: But I wonder where else.
Speaker 3: I know another place I was gonna mention this. So
Speaker 3: you have to understand that when you're talking about the Mormons,
Speaker 3: what do Mormons do at age of So we get
Speaker 3: these boys and we know what they're like, we know
Speaker 3: how they behave, we know if they're overachievers, we know
Speaker 3: what's happening with them because they get them in these
Speaker 3: programs like the Boy Scouts and whatnot early on. Well,
Speaker 3: then what happens is we send them on a mission.
Speaker 3: And we do this very early. We do this at
Speaker 3: eighteen years of age, and every boy is actually not required,
Speaker 3: but like, if you don't go on a mission, your
Speaker 3: family is going to have.
Speaker 1: Some things to say about it. Let me tell you what.
Speaker 1: So you're basically expected to go. And once they get
Speaker 1: on these missions, they have to have absolute like they
Speaker 1: have to mind exactly. The programming is finished with these
Speaker 1: missions because you cannot question anything. If somebody tells you
Speaker 1: something and you're on a mission, that's what you do,
Speaker 1: and you don't have any autonomy. You can't even go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom by yourself, like basically you're you're escorted
Speaker 1: and your partner waits right outside. So you guys are
Speaker 1: together like spying on each other, and basically you're taught
Speaker 1: as a missionary like, oh, if my partner was looking
Speaker 1: on the internet or texting his mom and he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have you tell on them. So they teach them this
Speaker 1: big brother type situation, you know, and then they always
Speaker 1: have one that's been in the mission longer than the other,
Speaker 1: so they're over them. So this teaches them, and then
Speaker 1: they all report back to a zone leader basically, so
Speaker 1: that even teaches them more. This is what happens, and
Speaker 1: you can get sent home from your mission, and if
Speaker 1: you do and you're not medically sick, that is a
Speaker 1: huge embarrassment to you and your family. So this is
Speaker 1: all being taught at an early age.
Speaker 3: Well, we know they're using this not only to use
Speaker 3: CIA agents and get them into other countries because they
Speaker 3: can get into places that other people can't. They can
Speaker 3: get in under philanthropic reasons, just like we watch it
Speaker 3: happen with the un And believe me, the Mormons and
Speaker 3: the un are are symbiotic. But I'm telling you guys,
Speaker 3: like this is a bigger thing than people really realize.
Speaker 3: Like all of these people I'm talking to you guys
Speaker 3: about today, almost every single one has been confirmed that
Speaker 3: they were in the CIA or working specifically with the
Speaker 3: CIA most of their lives for over seventy years. We've
Speaker 3: got a senator that's in the CIA, Like, what are
Speaker 3: you talking about?
Speaker 1: What kind of intrusion is that? In general?
Speaker 3: Like this and this Howard Hughes stuff hasn't ended yet.
Speaker 3: Even though I don't have a whole ton of pictures
Speaker 3: of it, I will tell you this goes into Bane
Speaker 3: and Company.
Speaker 1: This isn't it Romney.
Speaker 3: This trickle down, this trickle down effect to these other
Speaker 3: companies goes clear deep to this day. Steve Winn was
Speaker 3: financed by Mormons. He's owners over and actually it's been
Speaker 3: said that E. Perry Thomas said Steve Wynn was like
Speaker 3: a son to him, and this is from his own family.
Speaker 3: So anybody that's making it has been made by these
Speaker 3: silent king makers.
Speaker 1: These are not an accident. This company alone, the Huntsman's.
Speaker 1: If anybody's from Utah, you know what the Huntsmans are
Speaker 1: because the Huntsman's own hospitals, the Huntsman's own all these things.
Speaker 1: This company alone merged with another company and the Huntsman
Speaker 1: Gay noticed the last name Huntsman Gay. Yeah, they merge
Speaker 1: together and they have over seven billion of capital commitments.
Speaker 1: Like we're not the aggregate transaction value fifty billion. This
Speaker 1: firm is huge. And this is only one of a
Speaker 1: few that continue on to this day. Not only but
Speaker 1: also fun fact, George H. W. Bush worked with Howard Hughes.
Speaker 1: And we'll just go back to a Howard Hughes picture
Speaker 1: because that's it for these But Howard Hughes owned island
Speaker 1: that they used to actually spy on other people through
Speaker 1: CIA raids and that was through Zapot of oil. And
Speaker 1: actually the Mormon mafia leased these islands to them to
Speaker 1: the CIA from Hughes to raid on Cuba. This is
Speaker 1: like way bigger than people can ever comprehend. This is like,
Speaker 1: this is wild.
Speaker 3: This is stuff that you would hear and you would say, oh,
Speaker 3: that can't be true.
Speaker 1: No, it's true.
Speaker 3: And then on top of it, we're talking about Okay,
Speaker 3: we go outside of Vegas, we get into the profit
Speaker 3: that's coming up here soon after, which is Spencer W. Kimble.
Speaker 1: Spencer W.
Speaker 3: Kimble actually left a really important activity. He was that
Speaker 3: for the prophet and he went to go meet with
Speaker 3: thee NAA. I wrote it down people that were there visiting,
Speaker 3: like all of a sudden, just boom, went went to
Speaker 3: go meet with them.
Speaker 1: I'll look at the name. I have it written down here.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, what is going on? Like why?
Speaker 3: I get that the prophets have to go meet with
Speaker 3: important people all the time, but that seems really out
Speaker 3: of pocket. You know, it doesn't seem like something necessarily
Speaker 3: that the profit of the church should care about. Like
Speaker 3: why is he leaving meetings to go see these people?
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't make sense. It's all very highly connected,
Speaker 3: and I have to tell you it's connected also through
Speaker 3: the Rotary Club because Spencer W. Kimball was one of
Speaker 3: the top rotor Rotarian members and when he became called
Speaker 3: to that position, he actually said, I'm super upset with
Speaker 3: happen to do this because I'm I'm going to miss
Speaker 3: all my rotarian stuff. And LDS Abuse does a great
Speaker 3: podcast on this. I just had it on my podcast.
Speaker 3: He's done a lot of deep dives on the rotarian
Speaker 3: side of things, like it's crazy, like under the Rotary Club,
Speaker 3: the people that you would never think meet, right, they
Speaker 3: shouldn't meet together like in normal life, like the Catholics
Speaker 3: and the Mormons, Like why would they be meeting Or
Speaker 3: there's another guy that's involved in this that's Jewish. Why
Speaker 3: would the Meyer family care to meet with Mormons? Why
Speaker 3: would this be happening. Well, it's all underneath these other
Speaker 3: you know things, it's underneath these brotherhoods where you take
Speaker 3: what death os. The current prophet is a skull and
Speaker 3: bones member, what does he you know? This is crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean we are talking about people that have no
Speaker 3: business saying they're all about like God and this is
Speaker 3: about God, when really, truly it's a corporation. This is
Speaker 3: a corporation and it's all going into Washington, DC. And
Speaker 3: this didn't end when he died, like Howard Hughes's empire
Speaker 3: was taken over because the will took thirty four years
Speaker 3: to resolve. People if you don't have a will, hear
Speaker 3: me again thirty four years to resolve this because it
Speaker 3: was such a mess. Gay was actually fingered as trying
Speaker 3: to destroy the company. He was actually the one that
Speaker 3: said the Mormon will because people said he left everything
Speaker 3: to the Mormon Church and there was this fake will,
Speaker 3: and a bunch of fake wills came forward. Well they
Speaker 3: they found out that now they were probably all fake.
Speaker 3: They weren't for sure. But Gay could have gone on
Speaker 3: and testified. No, I saw him write that for the
Speaker 3: Mormon Church. And maybe he did and maybe he didn't.
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, he had a better standing
Speaker 3: taking over the health part of it. Like I told
Speaker 3: you he started the health institute thing.
Speaker 1: Gay went there and took over that until he died,
Speaker 1: like he had more power and money saying no to
Speaker 1: the Mormon Church, like no, I'm I'm gonna do this
Speaker 1: because if he bows down, then he loses some of
Speaker 1: his you know, money, And so he did not back
Speaker 1: the church with any of that. So I have to
Speaker 1: tell you guys, like this goes into nowadays too. And
Speaker 1: this is also super interesting when you look at the
Speaker 1: philanthropic side of things, and I mentioned the New World
Speaker 1: order when you start looking at all of this stuff
Speaker 1: that I bring forward. Okay, and even Spencer W. Kimball,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's I have not dug deep into him.
Speaker 1: But in the CIA journals it was mentioned nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: You guys can look it up or watch LDS abuse.
Speaker 1: He goes into this a little bit. But these people
Speaker 1: are in constant contact with the government. This is like
Speaker 1: a government committee. These people are not placed there by accident.
Speaker 1: But to this day, the top ten holdings of the
Speaker 1: Church Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints are
Speaker 1: the following. Microsoft is number one, Number two is Apple,
Speaker 1: number three is Alphabet, number four is Amazon, number five
Speaker 1: is Navidia, number six is Meta, number seven United Health Group,
Speaker 1: number eight is MasterCard, number nine is JP Morgan, and
Speaker 1: number ten is Tesla. And since I mentioned Tesla, I
Speaker 1: just want to mention to you guys, Jared Birchall, the
Speaker 1: CEO of Neuralink since twenty sixteen. Oh, he's a Mormon.
Speaker 3: Two the Birchall family, they have no business being over
Speaker 3: as a CEO. It makes no sense. He doesn't have
Speaker 3: the education or the backing to even be in that position.
Speaker 1: So why is he there. Why was he even there?
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder, you know. And guess what they
Speaker 1: also were over. They were also over something called the
Speaker 1: Boring Company b O RI I NNG for Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 1: This was founded by Musk. They met at Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 1: Then they started this boring company founded by Musk. And
Speaker 1: guess what They built tunnels tunnels. The boring Company isn't
Speaker 1: boring out a hole, not boring, isn't go to sleep boring? No,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so these people like that people want to trust.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but like, especially with the Mormon Church. Do
Speaker 3: you know who the number one landowner in America is
Speaker 3: right now for farming?
Speaker 1: I do not. It's Bill Gates. Do you know who
Speaker 1: the number two is? I do not. It's the LDS Church.
Speaker 1: And what is their number one shareholding? Oh, that's right Microsoft.
Speaker 1: So is it one big corporation in one world order already?
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you guys something. The Eldest Church is
Speaker 1: worth a hundred and sixty plus billion that was just
Speaker 1: found in a hedge fund and they said, we're saving
Speaker 1: it for the end of the world. And I quote
Speaker 1: the end of the world. Now, when you've got.
Speaker 3: These people that have money like this, and that's just
Speaker 3: what they found. If they're admitting to that much, get
Speaker 3: the heck out of here. It's way more. I speculate,
Speaker 3: and I speculate this really with quite a bit of
Speaker 3: backing behind my research and everything, that the Mormon Church
Speaker 3: has actually rose almost to equal playing field with the Catholics,
Speaker 3: and or they are actually above it because Rome, for
Speaker 3: the first time ever, the Vatican is there. They've never
Speaker 3: allowed the Mormons to build a temple there or buy there.
Speaker 3: And guess what they just did very recently. They just
Speaker 3: built a temple right right next door. It's literally right
Speaker 3: next door to the Vatican. So of course they didn't
Speaker 3: take it over, but they sure our neighbors. And I'll
Speaker 3: show you this picture where you can see the profit
Speaker 3: of the church and he is the skull and Bones
Speaker 3: slash Alan key member and he is holding this Peter's key.
Speaker 3: And you tell me what's going on here, like he
Speaker 3: is holding the keys to the Kingdom with a Masonic grip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: These things are so oh intricate in detail, like you
Speaker 3: have to notice the small things. The one thing the
Speaker 3: Mormon Church certainly did, and I will tell you guys.
Speaker 3: This for a fact is they saw things that the
Speaker 3: Catholics did and they copied it, like opu stay like missionaries,
Speaker 3: like you know, getting their way into certain areas that
Speaker 3: they really shouldn't be at and monopolizing them. Like they'll
Speaker 3: go in with a relief check for people and they'll say, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: you had.
Speaker 1: An earthquake, Well here's some money. But by the way,
Speaker 1: why we're here. You know, we know a guy that
Speaker 1: does concrete and he can come here and build your
Speaker 1: buildings better. And we know a guy that you know
Speaker 1: does food and he'll donate food if you let him
Speaker 1: do this here. And you know, we know a guy
Speaker 1: that builds hotels like the Marriotts that's a Mormon owed
Speaker 1: branch that's Mormon owned, and we can have him come
Speaker 1: and help you. And all of this goes in one
Speaker 1: big circle. No wonder the Rotary Club has a circle
Speaker 1: in it, let alone Masons. You have to understand, it's
Speaker 1: not just Rotary, it's Masonry, Rotary, Mormonism. All of this
Speaker 1: stuff goes together.
Speaker 3: And people keep saying, I wonder when the One World
Speaker 3: Order will come, And I'm like, it's here.
Speaker 1: You missed it. It's been here for a long ass time, yep.
Speaker 3: And now we're really screwed because the people that are
Speaker 3: feeding you, the people that are growing your food are
Speaker 3: Microsoft and the Mormon Church, which I don't trust either
Speaker 3: one of them. And even if you grow your own food,
Speaker 3: say you grow your own food, okay, they're still spraying
Speaker 3: the skies with crap constantly, like you're not going to
Speaker 3: escape it. They're polluting water, they're polluting food, They're polluting everything.
Speaker 3: And these people are almost too too powerful to fail,
Speaker 3: like you've heard that in banking, right, They're too big
Speaker 3: to fail and they're not going to let them fail.
Speaker 3: But i'll tell you what, it doesn't look like they're
Speaker 3: failing one single bit, not even a little nope, Nope.
Speaker 3: They have made it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something that.
Speaker 2: It's just been annoying me lately, especially with all this
Speaker 2: Trump stuff, and you got all of these super Christian
Speaker 2: people and new Agers and everybody, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: the matrix is crumbling, and I'm like, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: A matrix doesn't crumble and doesn't do that.
Speaker 3: The problem is is even you know, everybody always says, well,
Speaker 3: my grandma's a Mormon and she's the best lady ever,
Speaker 3: and she's super nice.
Speaker 1: So blah blah blah blah blah. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about your grandma. I'm talking about people at the top.
Speaker 1: And whenever you get at the very top of something,
Speaker 1: it isn't going to be what you know. They're keeping
Speaker 1: you dumb and blind in the middle. They don't want
Speaker 1: you to know this stuff. They want mormonston A. Microsoft
Speaker 1: is their number one, you know, shareholding. I highly doubt
Speaker 1: that most people don't trust Bill Gates as far as
Speaker 1: they can throw him. I mean, let's be real.
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, Bill Gates looks like somebody's grandmother.
Speaker 2: Yeah he looks evil.
Speaker 1: No, like an evil grandma, like in a crazy evil story. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, scary.
Speaker 2: But that is a fundamental point for people to really
Speaker 2: put their minds to. Yes, they often get involved in
Speaker 2: this concept that oh, they're big fish and so you
Speaker 2: can't outrun them. They'll just eventually gobble you up. But
Speaker 2: as far as I know, if a shark is coming
Speaker 2: at you and you punch that sucker in the face
Speaker 2: hard enough, it'll run away.
Speaker 1: It'll be stunned. Right.
Speaker 2: People are afraid to even challenge the system because they've
Speaker 2: just been so dumbed down. And you know people tend
Speaker 2: to shut down now when they hear that phrase dumb down.
Speaker 2: But that essentially that's what's happening. There's so many distractions
Speaker 2: and like you said, Granny Smith around the corner, she's
Speaker 2: not trying to hurt anybody, So how can it be
Speaker 2: a bad thing. Well, that's just the way that the
Speaker 2: structure is set up in every religion, in every arena,
Speaker 2: like the medical complex. You know, Bert down the road
Speaker 2: is a veteran and he's harmless. He served this country,
Speaker 2: so the army can't be doing anything insidious.
Speaker 1: All that stuff. Yeah, and it's all infiltrated and this stuff.
Speaker 3: I could go further, but like at some point it
Speaker 3: sounds crazy and I need to add a few more things,
Speaker 3: like to make it solidified. But like when you're talking
Speaker 3: about the military industrial complex. I just gave you a
Speaker 3: bunch of examples about how President Bush was using a
Speaker 3: movie star to rent his eyes islands to spy on
Speaker 3: a country in Cuba. What this stuff goes to the
Speaker 3: JFK assassination. I could take this all the way up,
Speaker 3: but I had to stop because it sounds insane. It
Speaker 3: also sounds insane that this goes to Watergate, but it's
Speaker 3: been proven. The guy I showed you that was the senator.
Speaker 3: They freaking made him go testify in court. And people
Speaker 3: will still tell you, oh, probably not. You know what,
Speaker 3: he's a senator, why is he in the CIA?
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's the most interesting thing about trials is that
Speaker 2: these people try themselves. Those things aren't real trials. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's actually people out there, like let's use
Speaker 2: Trump for example, that actually think that those trials were real.
Speaker 1: Right, No, they weren't. He's want of them, No, exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem is that you're never you know,
Speaker 1: I always tell my husband because he really he really
Speaker 1: likes Trump, and I'm always like, look, I'm I hate
Speaker 1: to be the black pilled person here, but I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna tell you and we can stop sharing whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know, well where up there it is.
Speaker 3: I hate to be the black pillar that goes around
Speaker 3: like with her head kind of down on this. Because
Speaker 3: would I like Trump to save the world? Yeah, sure, cool.
Speaker 1: I would love.
Speaker 3: Anybody to save the world. But like, I don't think
Speaker 3: billionaires save worlds. I don't think billionaires give a shit
Speaker 3: about you or me like, they don't. We're in the way,
Speaker 3: you know, that's all we are. They don't care.
Speaker 1: Most of the time.
Speaker 2: You know, I'd be happy if Baby Jesus showed up
Speaker 2: or right, you know, the real Superman Clark, wherever the
Speaker 2: hell you are get here.
Speaker 1: But exactly like, yeah, it isn't going to happen.
Speaker 2: And that's why people like us become secluded. You know,
Speaker 2: we eventually withdraw from the population at large because nobody's
Speaker 2: thinking really rationally and logically about it. They're just thinking
Speaker 2: based on their own denials and repressed information that they
Speaker 2: know is there, but they don't want to look at it.
Speaker 2: And they're just hoping and praying that some of this
Speaker 2: is going to come to an end. And I get it.
Speaker 2: It's scary. But at the same time, what do I
Speaker 2: always say? The only pathway to total freedom is personal empowerment.
Speaker 2: That's the only way. But I don't think we'll ever
Speaker 2: really reach a critical mass. I'm still out here trying
Speaker 2: to reach as many people as I can. But look
Speaker 2: at how many people have come and gone with the
Speaker 2: same fundamental messages as all of us, and they've just
Speaker 2: all been laughed at or ignored.
Speaker 1: Right, and we get called conspiracy theorists, right, we're crazy
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 2: You. Yeah, And even before that was a word, even
Speaker 2: before that was a thing, there have always been people
Speaker 2: who have tried to what was going on out there
Speaker 2: and it just it just doesn't work well.
Speaker 3: And they're all, yeah, it's like, these are operations, Like
Speaker 3: I can tell you guys. Go look up up Operation Gladio,
Speaker 3: Go look up that other operation project I told you,
Speaker 3: Go look up Project at Zorion. Go look up the
Speaker 3: hues Dynamic co with IBM. You want to know how
Speaker 3: it goes to Hitler. It goes through Hitler through IBM.
Speaker 3: IBM is connected to Hitler. And guess who worked at IBM.
Speaker 3: Hitler's mom, not Hitler's mom, Gates mom may as well
Speaker 3: be Hitler. And they focus on his dad. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: focus on his dad because he's the eugenicist. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's always the quiet one in the background. Don't look
Speaker 3: at him, Go behind that, Go behind that to the
Speaker 3: mom who's quietly working underneath like some really sketchy crap.
Speaker 3: And you know, I tried to find the IBM paper,
Speaker 3: the nineteen eighty four cia Ooya document that I know exists.
Speaker 3: I've seen it before. I can't find it, not even
Speaker 3: on Russian Google. Because the Mormons. Yeah, the Mormons came
Speaker 3: in and wanted to look at the IBM stuff and
Speaker 3: they were like, and you don't even want to get
Speaker 3: into and we could someday. The connection between the Nazis
Speaker 3: and the Mormons, it is crazy. One of the only
Speaker 3: people that showed up to help Nazi Germany after it
Speaker 3: happened was guess who, Oh, that'd be the Mormons.
Speaker 1: That'd be the Mormons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the ig Farban connection, everything is really
Speaker 2: strong there too.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's the way that they sneak in
Speaker 1: their people, Like they gather up all their CIA peeps
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna go help Germany because we're
Speaker 1: good people. No you're not. You're gonna smuggle out all
Speaker 1: the best and brightest let alone, you know, operation paper clip,
Speaker 1: And you can prove this to people like you can.
Speaker 1: I just showed you how all of these companies went
Speaker 1: into every single thing that we run the world, with airplanes,
Speaker 1: with healthcare, with all these things. And who did the
Speaker 1: report on that? You want to know the Rockefellers. Look
Speaker 1: at the Rockefeller Report on this stuff.
Speaker 3: You guys, like this is this is insane to me
Speaker 3: when you start learning like all the rich people are
Speaker 3: in on it if they have more than a million dollars,
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit who you are. You're in
Speaker 3: on it, like unless your grandma died and gave it
Speaker 3: to you. I'm yeah, and then they're still coming for you,
Speaker 3: creating I don't know, money from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your grand right. I'm like, that is scary.
Speaker 3: And there's a reason why the Bible says it is
Speaker 3: super hard for rich people to go to heaven. Right,
Speaker 3: It's easier to threat a camel through an eye of
Speaker 3: a needle.
Speaker 1: And why is that?
Speaker 3: That's some wisdom there, you know, whether you guys are
Speaker 3: biblical or not, that is a wisdom statement because that
Speaker 3: is telling you something like there's a reason why we
Speaker 3: aren't jetting around the world because jetting around the world
Speaker 3: and having money just literally they literally burn it. Sometimes
Speaker 3: the mob will burn cards and money and whatever. They
Speaker 3: don't care when they're doing all their weird stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, look, you're talking about nefarious people with
Speaker 3: white collar crime, and who's worse, if you take my
Speaker 3: take on it, white collar people because they're running shit.
Speaker 3: That's just me though, Yeah pretty much.
Speaker 2: And I mean yeah, that's a great place to end
Speaker 2: the podcast because you have pretty much answered any question
Speaker 2: that anybody could ask about this.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm super passionate about this.
Speaker 2: The great podcast because I just had to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: here's this thing, and go and you.
Speaker 1: And my notes, I think I dropped them right before
Speaker 1: I came downstairs, so I had a few other things.
Speaker 1: But you know, you could go on forever. You know.
Speaker 1: It's also please you guys. Check out LDS abuse.
Speaker 3: He does a lot on the rotarian side of things
Speaker 3: on the Rotary Club. I just dropped an episode with
Speaker 3: him and it will go even deeper into the hole
Speaker 3: like it's it's a lot. I don't even go to
Speaker 3: Rotary much because he's covered.
Speaker 1: It so well. Right, Well, where can we find you?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I do have my
Speaker 3: own website and it's Unfiltered Rise podcast dot com.
Speaker 1: I think it's podcast. Yeah, just put an Unfiltered Rise
Speaker 1: and then put the podcasts. It'll pop up.
Speaker 3: And then also I have my own Patreon that we
Speaker 3: released twice a month extra shows that nobody else will
Speaker 3: ever get I've never released them ever and I won't.
Speaker 3: And they're about murders, Mormons and Mayhem, and a lot
Speaker 3: of times we do Mormon murderers and you might be surprised.
Speaker 1: Ted Bundy was a murderer and he was also Mormon.
Speaker 3: But also you know somebody that gets really skipped on,
Speaker 3: which is Israel Keys And I'm going to be doing
Speaker 3: an episode on him soon. He was a Mormon, so
Speaker 3: and he's one of the scariest. I feel like he
Speaker 3: is so underrated. He is so much scarier than any
Speaker 3: of the rest of them. He planted kill kids two
Speaker 3: years in advance. Like he is a scary guy, scary
Speaker 3: smart person, scary.
Speaker 2: Well, Heidi, thanks for being on a Boundless Authenticity podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I love coming on and chatting
Speaker 1: with you. Sorry, I'm super intense.
Speaker 2: All right, you will be back though, you will return
Speaker 2: a third time.
Speaker 1: I love it, all right,