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Speaker 2: Uh. Doctor Stephen Natherwick is here with us. Yeah, Doc.
When the big voice lady says deny science, it's.
Speaker 3: More like, you know, we're not denying. Yeah, yeah, it's
not medical science. It's not medical science.
Speaker 2: It's it's more sunscreen.
Speaker 3: Sunscreen denier a little bit. That's me carbon dating more
than anything. Yeah, definitely question carbon dating. All this thing's
millions and millions of years old.
Speaker 2: Okay, hell, yes, dirt of course it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just they kind of push or said dirt together
like a couple, you know, one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's appropriate. Yeah, So what's up, doc? Have you
doing doing well? Doing well? How about y'all? Strong to
quite strong.
Speaker 3: I did wake up kind of sad that I told
him because I was dreaming that we were just beating
Baneville fourteen to three. But then when I realized it
was a dream, I felt much better about it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a great reference. It's funny.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit old than y'all.
Speaker 5: So that movie came out my freshman year in college,
and I'm untile, and so they had the apartment.
Speaker 2: Oh what about your recruitment to Florida State? Yeah, whole
theater goes matched down and sit there, and so where
was going scholarship the Florida State? So it was it
was a good memories for sure, all right.
Speaker 3: Uh, LSU coming off of a bye week, so before
we get into some of the injuries across the country, Uh,
a little vibe check maybe across on the Ponderosa.
Speaker 5: It's been good, you know, the the energy going back
to last week. You know, obviously a lot of a
lot of stuff going on. We've had a lot of changes,
a lot of movements, but I think the guys are
embracing it. Uh, definitely a lot of energy around the facility.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes change is good.
Speaker 5: It can it can kind of bring in some needed momentum,
some needed kind of shifting. And at least that's how
it feels right now. You know, we'll we'll see Saturday,
but at least the vibes are very good.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: That's kind of like why you get the air quote
interim bump, if you will, because like anytime there's some change,
especially when things are going poorly, you get hope, right,
you get a little bit of hope, a little bit
of extra energy, and it doesn't like guarantee that you're
gonna play great or guarantee that you're gonna But there's
an interim bump for a reason because like there's not
there's not not less talent in the building, right. You
see in the NFL too, there's not less talent on
a team. It's just like guys get new hope, they believe,
they get some more energy and just and I think
from all the reports including you like have said it,
the people that have been over there last week, this week,
the prices have been great, the energy has been awesome.
So fired up for this team, fired up for those
young men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's still a great roster.
Speaker 5: You know, we've talked about the roster going back to
you know, preseason, and this is a great roster.
Speaker 2: You know. It's it's it's a hard league.
Speaker 5: We're gonna lose some games probably, but let's just kind
of see see what we can do for on Saturday.
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, let's you know, unfortunately, go ahead and
get to the injury for guy JD. Five elbows are
not supposed to go that way in the other direction.
When you see those like that, it's just terrible. And
we talked about with the camp scattered, but it's like
I don't need to see that replay. I saw it
live saw at once. That's that's good enough for me.
Same thing with Jayden and James was a little bit
harder to see live, and we were talking about it
almost felt like it was going to be a leg injury,
just because you could tell he was in some pain.
You weren't really sure, but man, when you watch, unfortunately
a replay found its way in front of me.
Speaker 2: That was very difficult to watch.
Speaker 3: And so what exactly you know do you think happened
and how long is that rehab?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's it's an elbow dislocation, and those
are those are outside of the shoulder. As far as
big joints, that the second most common joint that gets dislocated,
you know, Yeah, so we see a fair number of them.
If we want to look at bright side. At least
it was his left arm, right, it's if this is
a quarterback with their throwing arm, that could be a
potential career ender or at the very least a devastating injury,
something you're gonna have to really spend a lot of time.
Speaker 2: So we only the positives. It was his non non
dominant side, so that's a positive.
Speaker 5: You know, typically that elbow when it dislocates, it goes backwards,
it dislocates post.
Speaker 2: Here we kind of fall in that outstretched hand kind
of like you see.
Speaker 5: And and you know they're there are injuries that, just
like any other dislocation, the most important question then becomes
what structures were injured, and right now you not really
sure how far the injury went. There are ligaments that
hold your joint in place. You have your capsule, you
have a lot of structures around it. And for a
joint to dislocate, you're probably gonna tear something. I mean,
it's just because he's gonna happen because you know, if
you think about it's fewing something the elbow, Yes, yeah,
and so something probably tore, and most of the times
you're at least gonna end up what's called an LCL
the lateral ligament, the ligand on the outside of the
elbow pretty much always tears. Yeah, you know, it's not
as important ass of a stabilizer as some of the others,
still important and and and so you're gonna have to
kind of see how he does. You know they're gonna
get an MRI, and you know it's it's a discussion.
I've had a lot of times when a partner is
doctor Field, who he loves to talk about the m
RAY and he's one of our elbow gurus. He's fantastic,
but you know that first MRI is always a horrible
and he's like, you know, you really can't see what's
going on until the swelling has gone down, the bleeding
has gone down, because you get at the initial MRY
and that it's gonna look like a bomb went off
in that elbow. And then sometimes as the swelling goes down,
you're like, Okay, it's not so bad, right, so so
we're gonna have to kind of wait and see and
and it's gonna be something that if it's unstable, they
may have to repair it and fix it. But if
it's something that he was pretty good, you can put
him in a brace and see him back out there
in a reasonable timeline, maybe even a few weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean, Khalil magg did this for the Chargers.
Speaker 3: He did the same thing edge rusher, and he missed
six weeks. Maybe it's back playing right now and now
he's got the heavy cast home. But that's an edge
rusher is not a quarterback, even with it being his
off arm, probably gonna spend a little bit time, you know,
more time than six weeks, just because you know you're
taking heads and you're falling to the ground, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. He's your franchise guy, He's the future
of your franchise.
Speaker 6: Daniels there. I mean, I don't think they're gonna be
seasons going their way. You put him, you put some
bubble wrap around him. Right now, I think that's this
is a third injury, third different injury of the season.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's been getting beat up.
Speaker 5: It's not been a good year for our guys in
the league, at least art Heisman Trophy winners.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, like so when something like that happens and the
elbow just completely bends the wrong way, and like if that,
if that happens to a knee, right, that's that. I
think that's the comparable joint here from upper body lower body, Like,
if that happens to the knee, I mean we're talking ACM,
like all the all the ls that people know of
and hear of. But this doesn't happen to the elbow
a lot because the elbow it's a lot harder to
bend that way. You have to really hit it at
it right, the right amount of force, the right angle,
Like a lot of things have to go wrong, so
you talked about the outside ligament. But like you hear
a lot with throwers and elbows, a big elbow injury
a lot is like the nerve. Like so the oul
the nerve there is that like, is that a threat
to be?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What can happen to that? Can it be severed? Can
it be torn? Can?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What can happen to a nerve rather than a ligament?
Speaker 5: So most of the times the nerve won't tear, but
it can get stretched and pulled, and in which case
you can get an injury to that nerve. Fortunately it's
most elbow dislocations. We don't get that.
Speaker 2: But it is a risk.
Speaker 5: And you know, if you have a nerve injury, you're
gonna have some numbness, maybe even weakness going down in
the hand, and that could be a big deal. You know,
the onner nerve is the one that's on the inside
and it is the one that's gonna be injured. It
goes to you down to your your fourth and fifth fingers,
so the ring finger and little finger, and again if
you have a guy that's trying to hold a ball,
that's trying to do those things, and those those those
those fingers aren't really able to sense it or grip it.
That could be a problem. So you know, again that
is something you have to watch for. Like I said,
fortunately it's not super calm with the elbow, but it
does happen.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The other common injury sees the MCL the metal cloutteral ligament.
That's the Tommy John injury. Yes, you know, brock Perty
had that. U what's his face? The guy from Georgia's
now Miami. I'm drawing a blank. That's the injury he had. Yeah,
that's the injury he had. So so those are injuries that.
Speaker 6: Totally like yeah, so, but you're kind of saying that
with an elbow injury that we might really not know
the significance of it for a couple of weeks. I'm
assuming an injury like that, there's gonna be some swelling
that takes place and that's not gonna go anywhere for
a little while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, one percent. Like I said, they're gonna do
everything they can. They're gonna get the image and make
sure nothing broke. You're worry about fractures as well. If
the bony structures are good, you're gonna kind of watch it.
You're gonna let it, kind of let the swell and
go down. You're gonna reevaluate it, probably reimage it, get
a little better idea, and then you kind of move forward.
Speaker 3: I feel like my shoulder went out of place, like
not all the time, but all the time, and it
was just like, hey, put it back in and get
back out there. How can you do that with a
shoulder and not elbow, knee, ankle?
Speaker 2: You see it?
Speaker 5: Well, the shoulder sometimes when it becomes loosened, it becomes unstable,
and you know you'll sublux it or even dislocate it,
and you know every time that happens, you do run
the risk of further injury. So that's one of the
downside has had obviously. But you know, look, I had
the exact same injury my right shoulder. I didn't fix
it until it was done playing ball, probably paying the
price for it now, but uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would.
Speaker 5: It would pop out about every every few games at
the best case scenario. And you know, yeah, shoulder, though,
it is a little looser, so once you loosen it up,
each dislocation, while significant, maybe a little less. Not not
condoning said behavior, not recommending that for our people out.
Speaker 2: There, but uh, was the norm. Get it back in. Yeah,
you just gotta make that decisions. Yeah, we we watched
those a little bit. We realize the more times you dislocate,
the more damage. But you know, I would.
Speaker 6: Every time your shoulder goes somewhere it's not supposed to,
damage is a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Gosh.
Speaker 3: We had a big game in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I think it was Auburn at home. Yeah, Auburn at
home and just came out.
Speaker 3: But it was like one of those games where the
fullback was in the game plan a lot and I
had I was still playing fullback, had.
Speaker 2: Moved to tail back in, and I'm like, put this
thing back in. We got to get out there.
Speaker 3: Every time that I hit one of the linebackers, I
could fill at the bottom of my feet one of
those just tingles.
Speaker 2: But you know what, we got back out there. Do
what you gotta go. Yeah, okay, all right, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: I always wondered because like you hear shoulders going out
more than you hear almost anything going out, and get
them back in and then get back out. Well, not
for a quarterback, probably for a meat had fullback. Same
thing with the shoulders, though, I would. I would say,
or I would ask you, are stingers kind of in
that same vein Like, once you start getting stingers, they
they're more likely to keep happening. And because I have
a couple of friends that played fullback in the NFL
and they're like, I had to retire because I was
getting like three stingers a day at practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can be.
Speaker 5: More common once you have this stinger, and then it
goes down to the you know, the physiology of why
you're getting them, is it is it something in the
actual neck, which it's always a neck injury.
Speaker 2: It's a little burner, no deal.
Speaker 5: But if you have a spinal problem, then that's a
bigger concern. If there's something there, you know, that's causing
this repetitively. Sometimes there can be structural auttermalities in your
in your vertebrae that can cause these where you get
that nerve gets pinched, So that's a different injury. But
even if it's just a stretch injury that that can
once you do it, you're a little more prone to it,
especially in the short term after potentially what.
Speaker 2: Makes that burn.
Speaker 3: Feel like a stinger and a burner are different for me,
Like it was a different feeling.
Speaker 5: So it's a nerve injury. Nerve injuries we often associate
with that burning sensation. Yeah, you have the nerves that
come out of your neck just call the brachial plexus
here in the shoulder, and usually it's this kind of
your your your head gets stretched to the side kind of.
Speaker 2: In a lateral movement.
Speaker 5: That's usually when that the most common presentation, and that
nerves get stretched and then wherever that nerve goes, that's
why you feel it go down the arm into the
hands and tingling the numb.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 2: You know, we worry about it when guys are weak.
Speaker 5: So if you'll see us doing an assessment after a burner,
if a guy's weak, if his armed week, that for
me as a red flag. So those the injuries were
gonna probably hold you out. If you had a stinger
burner and it goes away, we're gonna let you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I watched NFL games like and I like watch in
between plays, especially like after big hits, big collisions, and
you see like a safety coming to clean up after
like throwing a shoulder in there, and like you see
him get.
Speaker 2: Up and they're kind of like they're kind of doing this.
Speaker 6: And shaking it out and they got their heads tilted
like towards their shoulder a little bit, and you can
see him just like trying to shake it off before
they get back on the head.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, it's a stinger. Huh, Yeah, that's exactly
what a stinger is. You'll be okay, stop being a baby.
It just burns there.
Speaker 6: It burns like there's a thousand degree played on my neck.
Speaker 2: But fine, it's gonna be okay. Exactly what it.
Speaker 3: Feels like, all right, Last one, Doc, want to ask you.
We just had the NFL trade deadline yesterday. So when
somebody gets traded like this, obviously like you've got some
wear and tear because you're in the middle of the season.
What what like, what are those physicals like compared to
maybe preseason physic.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, are the same and same physical like
what's the difference? It's gonna be similar. You're gonna focus
on what you know.
Speaker 5: You know at the NFL the rules with with their
injury you have to disclose everything. So and that's a
big part of you know, with with their injury updates
and all that, you have to have that information. Yea,
so you kind of know what the injuries are at
least you should. Now you're still gonna hopefully do your
due diligence. You're still gonna make sure that they're gon't
anything missed or whatever. But if you so, if you
had a guy and you know had a toe injury,
terf toe injury, you're gonna're gonna evaluate that.
Speaker 2: You're gonna say, is this healed? Because most of these.
Speaker 5: Trades are gonna have some kind of a clause. You know,
you have to pass the physical, you have to come
in and pass it or else we can kind of
avoid those those trades. So the guy is gonna come
in and you're gonna you're gonna definitely do a full physical,
but obvious you're gonna focus on those things you know
he has. You're gonna focus on the injuries that have
been on the injury reports. You're gonna focus on what
the other documentation has. Usually you're gonna get the records
from the other team's medical staff. That is something that
is traditionally shared, so you know it's not You probably
have a pretty good idea, but obviously want to put
hands on yourself to make sure, Hey, this thing really
is healed, this thing really is stable.
Speaker 2: Whatever that situation might be.
Speaker 6: How much of the decision, the final decision to make
a trade or to finalize it, it lies in the
hands of the doctor that gets the get the hands
on the athlete right there and do that physical. I mean,
I hear the stories and of you know that there's
a pain type injury or somebody coming, you know, out
of an injury. They'll take a bunch of anton flams
or painka because they want to be traded and they
want to pass the physical, so like they're juicing up
a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's it's and I think you're going
to find that it's going to be different with each organization.
I think some some of them are going to listen to
their medical staff more than others. Some of them are
going to say, hey, i've seen this guy play, he's
a baller, or hey we really need this guy. You know,
whatever the situation might be, everything else, you know, forget it.
But I think with each organization you will see there
have definitely been, you know, some classic situations. I mean,
probably the one we've all talked about the most is
with Breeze not getting cleared in Miami ends up here
in the Saints, you know, and that was a big deal,
and that was that goes back to the medical staff,
their opinions on what they thought he'd be able to
do moving forward. And and so I think, like I said,
you'll see different organizations that are gonna put very very
heavy reliance on their medical staff and others that you know,
you have a GM that or coach is gonna say, hey,
we're gonna go, We're gonna go with this guys. I
don't care what y'all said, you know, it was it
was interesting. I had the benefit of going to Combine
one year and just seeing how that works. And it
is crazy on the medical side because you know, we're
you all been through you see that the physical, but
then hearing the conversations in the room and it's and
it's it's the same type of thing these medical staffs
and we may not all agree.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: I was there.
Speaker 5: We were working with the Saints and we're talking about
these guys and it's like, hey, we want you to
give them a grade, and then we want you to
give them a number. So the grade would be like
a which nobody had an except for a punter. That
means you've never had an injury, so maybe a punter,
somebody had an A. Most guys were b's and c's,
but even with the c's then they wanted you to
give me a number. So if you were a C five,
that means you had some medical stuff coming in. With
that medical stuff, I think you make five years. And
so we had to make our best guess. I mean,
these are these are your guestimates. And you know we
might give you a C five, and you know that
the packers might have given you a C eight, and
you know the organizers might give you a B. You know,
and it's it's so it's not all read upon. But
we're even though we're all there together doing these exams
and and and for me to see that and get
a part of that, and you'd have to and you hear.
Speaker 2: How much stock is put into it like that one number.
Speaker 6: Like the decisions that I've been made on a guy's
future based on that one number.
Speaker 2: That yeah, and.
Speaker 5: Probably well, look, we had a A that same year.
We had an offensive lineman he was going through and
he had some bad knees.
Speaker 2: And I heard the guy's talk.
Speaker 5: Broke my heart because a good kid hearing the discussions
going on about him, and I was just like, man,
so and then the kid didn't get drafted, kid that
probably was a draftable talent. And and and to be fair,
I had a lot of medical stuff and and so
I understood the discussion. But to be a guy that
knew this kid, that cared about this kid, you know,
being there from the college side, it was it was
it was heartbreaking, you know. And so without a doubt,
every year there are guys whose careers are probably oh yeah,
yeah at the combine.
Speaker 6: And if we could tell your first sam from the
combine experience, Like I was coming off of ac joint
spring Day Sea joint like a month month and a
half before, and it felt great going into the combine.
But by the time the thirty second doctor had pulled
and tugged and whatever on my shoulder, I was like,
it hurts now, anything would hurt.
Speaker 2: Now get evaluated by everybody, and they're they're pulling it,
they're putting it. Yeah. I had this doctor name heavy Hands,
doctor Benson at the combine for the Saints. I was like,
doctor Mason, chill it on the knee, Chill, Chill, chill, chill. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've had a couple surgeries It's okay. They don't need
to know that, all right.
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Speaker 2: Bang got real.
Speaker 4: Posts Here we go post post dirty so dirty, out
post dirty dirty.
Speaker 1: Really from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Like the.
Speaker 1: Comis if we beat.
Speaker 2: These days.
Speaker 3: From the phone.
Speaker 2: See I've been holding back this from.
Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Miss how the telestrator? Where go yesterday? So God feel confident.
Speaker 2: I felt way more of it.
Speaker 7: I was on.
Speaker 2: I'll played with an hour and a half after. Yeah,
I go until noon, until noon till then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I left there and I came back at
like eleven fifty and he was still right in that
same seat.
Speaker 2: So I feel good about it. He was proud. He
was pretty good by the time I got back. Yeah,
I was. I had the tools loaded up. But the
problem is is.
Speaker 6: I still got to get clips downloaded on there to
do it. So we're not ready to go live yet.
Speaker 2: No, hopefully wait which clips are you trying to download?
I don't got the part got that far yet. We're
not ready to go live.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: I thought you said we're doing film today. Oh we can,
but just not with a telephone. It's kind of disappointing. Well, sorry,
I had I had meetings to go to. Some people
don't take the bye week as serious as they should,
and starting to show a little.
Speaker 6: Was just talking about how long I worked on the telestrade.
It took a while start getting used to them. Buttons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta familiarize yourself with it. Should send the
video of the film that you were breaking down yesterday
so he could play it. Took a video of that.
I don't know that that's alady. No, I don't know
that that's ready. I don't think Yeah, yeah, left tackle
here there. We don't have to play it anyway, because
I thought I did. Yeah, that's right on, all right,
it's okay, we'll get that. We'll get done.
Speaker 3: We are going to watch some Alabama tape if I'm
not mistaken, right, didn't you say that yeah mm hmm
our three all right, just making sure I didn't know
how much advance notice I had to give you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll watch a little bit.
Speaker 6: Like so, I've been watching the Bama Tennessee film quite
a bit because I would say the Tennessee offense from
a schematic standpoint, from a personnel standpoint, pretty similar to
what ls She tries to do. They do a lot
of eleven personnel. They do, oh my god, an noxious
amount of like wide receiver screens. So I wanted to
see how they defended that, you know, spoiler alert. I
think Tennessee game two yards one time, those their biggest
game on a wide receiver screen.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to that.
Speaker 6: That's how I wanted to watch their defense. And I
watched this Alabama team. I watched this Alabama defense and
just nothing, like there's nothing, there's not one thing to
put your like hold your hat on and say like
that is that's scary right there? Like they're really good
at that. They're they're a sound defense. They got some
pillars in the inside of the defensive linemen on the
in the running game that are just big, strong boys
and they can sit there and they can hold point
and it's tough to move them.
Speaker 2: That's a that. But they're not making a bunch of tackles.
They do a really good job.
Speaker 6: They're three techniques, they're one techniques is doing a good
job of just clogging up and making two people block
them in the running game.
Speaker 2: They do that well.
Speaker 6: Number forty two is there pass rusher. What's his name
something Pierre and then Pierre something like that. But he's
got four sacks. He's got four sacks. Like he's their
best pass rusher. He's not overly athletic. He's got a
high motor. He's got a good swim move, a rip
and dip move if you will.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: And he's like I said, he's got a high motor,
but he's not a game changer in the fact, like
your number one premier pass rusher traditionally is. I think
he's tied in the sixteenth in the SEC with sacks.
He's got four. I think he had two of them
against Tennessee. So there's not just one thing that you're like,
oh man, this is a scary defense there. We're gonna
have tough time putting up points. Their secondary sound really good.
They got a they got a one of their safeties
that plays down low. He's got a lot of tackles
on the year. He does a good job in the
running game, but there's just not like one thing, so
like it's not a fearful defense when you're going into
it in game plan.
Speaker 2: And so again it's Alabama playing sound. They're very well coached.
Speaker 6: They're not going to make any glaring mistakes and you know,
leave too many people just like sitting wide open. Do
a lot of his own coverage though they're not playing
a ton of man. They'll bring zero on you a
little bit, which is cover zero, which is they bring
blitz everybody man a man coverage, no help over there.
They'll do that against Selshue because people have done it
against ael A Shoe and we haven't had answers for it.
And when we have had answers, it just wasn't schematically
very sound. And playing a young running back as well,
you're gonna blitz them. It's just gonna happen. Yeah, you
put the young running back in because he's your best runner,
he's got the best vision, he's of the most success.
But that also comes with they're gonna challenge him with
different looks and they should and that's the way, and
he's had a bye week to work on that. So, yeah,
you're gonna get a lot of variants on the defensive
side of the ball with Alabama.
Speaker 2: But as long as we don't run, as long as
we don't.
Speaker 6: Complete close to half our passes behind the line of scrimmage,
I think will be okay. And if we do what
we haven't done in the past lates in the last
two games, we've completed only two passes in between the
hashes of past five yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, i' numbers probably got to go up a bet.
I would got to go up a bet. Yeah, you
gotta take the caution tape off that part of the field. Yep.
If you do that, you got a chance.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're gonna catch up with the interim
head coach, Frank Wilson of the Lshue Fighting Tigers when
we come back here on OTB off the bench.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in ot be here live from
the Raisin Kane Studio. Very excited for our next guest,
it is our guy, the interim head coach for the
LSU Fighting Tigers. Coach Frank Wilson joins us. Now, coach,
what's going on? How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 7: I'm doing well? How you doing, Matt?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Jacob doing fantastic?
Speaker 3: Glad to have you on, Excited to have you on,
Excited about the opportunity for LSU this weekend and Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 2: So coach just kind of want.
Speaker 3: To, you know, go back and look at the time
when you find out you're going to be the interim
head coach for the LSU Tigers, just because coach, I've
known you for a long time.
Speaker 2: I know what this place means to you, I know
what this state means to you.
Speaker 3: So when you found out that you were going to
be in charge of this football program moving forward for
the rest of the season, what was that moment.
Speaker 4: Like for you?
Speaker 7: It was gratifying. My immediate thought was, Okay, what's the
first thing we need to do to hold this team together.
What's the first thing we need to do to give
us stability and understanding that we're going to be all right?
And so my immediate concern turned to our try student athletes,
to our kids in preparation to give them mindset, to
give them understanding and answers because they were confused and
they were surprised, and so we're an emotional being and
all those array of feelings happen, and so I just
wanted to serve our student athletes and then also to
meet with our staff and support staff because it affects
them as well. To have conversation with those guys, this
is where we're at, this is what we're trying to accomplish,
and here's what we can control, and there's some things
we can't control, you know. And so to have those
conversations was the most most important thing for me. And
you would think it would be a time of jubilation,
but didn't have time for it.
Speaker 3: We'll coach, and that's where I was going to go next. Like,
what has maybe been the main focus this week? Is
it resetting your mindset? Is it scheme or is it
just reminding the guys what else you football is supposed
to look like?
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so it is mean, tough and nasty. Yep,
let's get back to DNA. Let's let's let's let's remember
who we are. Let's not forget who we are.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: And not that those things has not been preached and
said to them, because they have. But here's how I
believe that looks for us. All Right, So we're not
gonna just talk it, We're gonna walk it. And and
here's the style of play, here's the methodology of it.
Uh to to earn that, to get that, so that
we we go into this game with a mindset knowing
that the most physical football team is going to win
this football game.
Speaker 2: Coach the.
Speaker 6: When something like this happens, when when there's a change
mid season, I think it's easy to forget in this
day and age in college football, with you know, contracts
the way they are, with with nil the way it is,
it's easy to get kind of lost in the whole
business side of things that there's a there's a human
aspect to all of this, from support staff to coaches
that you you single out individually the players now in
this world, like it's hard to avoid the outside noise
right when, especially when things are going poorly, and the
message is easy to say, like we got to control,
we control, we got to be together, But how do
you put that into practice of telling the kids, telling
the players like, don't look at what everybody else is saying,
don't look at that outside noise, and just focus on
what we're doing no matter because it's hard to avoid
the social media, is the interviews, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: How do you put that into practice each and every day.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's there's a way that you would
articulate that, and then there's a way that you live it. Right,
and so from the time we get together at two o'clock,
let's let's take care of the business at hand. This
is our emphasis today, this is our dress.
Speaker 1: Of the day.
Speaker 7: This is not just what we're doing, this is why
we're doing it. And so it's our responsibility to equip
you with not just what we're doing, but the why
and how we're going to do it. And I think
the more information and the more that we're able to
act it out, to model it, to show it, the
greater buying it is. For the student athletes. You know,
you can say be tough, or you can say don't
worry about it. Well, you're human, right, and in the
humanistic world, you're going to have these feelings. That's okay,
that's not abnormal. Here's ways that you can help cope
with that. Here's a piece that when you have player
interview at the end, at the end of practice, here's
our unified voice and our message to our loyal fans
and where we're at now. You put that in your words,
but we have one voice in how we're going to
go about conducting our business. It's going to start here
and it's going to matriculate all the way down from
the training room to the weight room, to sports medicine
to the cafeteria. This is us, this is who we are.
This is all in and it's our theme, and we're
all in and we're going to live it. We're gonna
act it, and we're going to show our players by
being demonstrative and the way that we live and do
our business.
Speaker 3: Catching up with LSU interm coach Frank Wilson here on
OTB Coach, You've always been known as one of the
best recruiters in the country. How important is it right
now to keep that Louisiana wall strong. I'm sure there's questions,
but this is a class that has a lot of talent.
It's got five stars, it's got guys from Louisiana already
committed to LSU. What has it been like on the
recruiting from trying to make sure that wall stay strong.
Speaker 7: You know, every situation is unique, you know. So some
of them are conversations with the student athlete, some of
them are conversations with the high school coach. Some in
the world that we live in as a conversation with
their agents, you know, or their grandparent or whatever it
may be. Understanding identifying who are those people that are
most impactful, influential to the student athlete, giving them information.
Yet again, no different than our current team, our current staff,
that we can't and won't allow somebody to speak on
our behalf that in the midst of all that's going on,
that they can't have a void in communication because then
it creates chaos, and so we have to handle the
communication piece. We have to fill in and then say
to them, you have a direct line, all right, so
you don't have to wonder. They don't have to speak
for us. You have a direct line to the source.
So all your questions are your concerns lim here, bring
them here so that we can give you comfort and
equip you also with a knowledge base. Up now, I
understand what happening with my school. No that's not true.
I talked to coach. Here's what he said. And as
we we moved through this, this what we call thirty
count down the signing Day, thirty days away. Just our approach,
we've been doing it, tightening it. Tonight is our big
power hour where we will continue to do so. And
there's a game plan that involves everybody from our n
I LSU to our to our sports medicine department, our
training department, admissions and applications. As we move forward to
these kids who are mid year graduates, what does that
look like? And so we're going about business and we're
positioning ourselves what every viable part, every branch that's in
this process of transition of onboarding so that they have
answers and there's no void there And nope, I did that. Nope,
but yeah, I got my flu shot. I talked to
my counselor, we got the transcript. Ordered. Oh no, Coach
sent me the link. So I'm gonna make applications for
school today and on and on and on and so
we're very conscientious, very strategic in our approach and getting
them to the finish line, which is National Signing Day.
Speaker 6: Could you mentioned the words earlier, mean, tough, and nasty.
Those are three words that I think every LSU fan listening. Man,
it gives you a little chillbumps, makes the hair on
the back of your next sand up, and unfortunately sometimes
it feels a little nostalgic.
Speaker 2: When we think about those words with LSU football.
Speaker 6: Well, this week we heard the reports Blake Baker talking
to you about, Hey, let's pract this little mean, tough
and nasty.
Speaker 7: You got you guys. You guys would have loved practice. Yes,
I know, come out listen, man, it was it was.
It was one Uh you would have been proud of.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Your your your tigers fought like tigers.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: They competed, Uh with the physicality. Uh, that that we've
been built upon. So we had a great day of practice.
They sorry about that.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: That's exactly where I was going, Coach. I wanted to
know about practice. I wanted to see how those kids compete.
I mean, we're talking about mid season, coach, we're talking
about resetting the standard with mean, tough, and nasty. And
I love hearing those words from me, and I love
hearing the practice report.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they they embraced it. Uh, certainly you know,
it was controlled. We didn't take people to the ground,
but in the trenches, in that box and in spaces,
there's opportunity to be sincere with contact, as we say,
kissing with your face mask, call your hips, you fit
them and let him run. And so it was thud,
but it was it was one that our kids enjoyed,
had fun in doing so. And you know what we
can do that we can block, that we can run,
that we can fit that at warp speed. And so
we challenged our team to do so and they responded
in a very positive.
Speaker 6: Manner because we saw media had some availability yesterday and
we saw some pictures and some looks at the all
in drum in the team meter and tell us a.
Speaker 2: Little bit about that, you know.
Speaker 7: So, so here's the buy in for us. There's one
year that there's an offense, there's a defense, and then
there's a combination of offense and defense that comprise and
make up our special teams with our specialists. But the game,
the game doesn't start until the official put that ball
in play. When that ball goes in play, it breathes
life into the game. And so we call it the heartbeat,
the heartbeat of our foot. At the end of the game,
when the official takes that ball and raises in the air,
the time have expired. It's deceased. There's no more football
to be played. And so when we on certain days,
when we start our special teams, it starts with the heartbeat,
and it's it's not something I came up with. It's
something that Pete Carroll came up with many years ago,
and I learned from d oseron and have carried it
with me for years, and so I just think it's
it's resounding, it's it's very direct for our players, for
our team to understand that when you go out there
for the first snap, you set the tone. It's the
heartbeat of what we do. And so we just gave
it life. We wanted to breed life into our team,
into our special teams with the heartbeat, with the drum
being symbolic of that of a heart palpitating, and so
it's a boom boom boom, boom, boom boom, and then
as it gets faster and faster, it's almost at a
cardiac rate to allow us to explode on the kickoff
or kickoff return.
Speaker 2: Well, I love that, love that answer all right.
Speaker 3: Last one coach before we get you out here, and
we certainly do appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: When the Tiger fans watch your team.
Speaker 3: Take the field this weekend, what do you want them
to see and what do you want them to feel.
Speaker 2: About L s U Football?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like them. I think what they will see
is a team that's willing to fight, a team that's
willing to strain, a team that has no quit in them,
that's going to do everything in their power to position
themselves to be victorious. We're going, We're going to fight
this team. We're going We're going to pick a fight
and step the tones from the onset of the game.
I think I like our fans at the end of
the game to be proud and say, Okay, all right,
here we go. That's we've that's what we're you stuff,
that's our Tigers uh InStyle of play. I don't know
what the outcome will be. Here's what I can tell you, though,
We're going to pick a fight, all right. We're going
uh to talk with our helmets and our shoulder pads
in the right way, in the way that Tigers play.
Speaker 2: Let's go. I want to let go. I want to wait.
I'm glad I'm on the plane. Man. I can't wait
to get there, be in the atmosphere and call that game.
Speaker 3: Hey, coach, can't thank you enough, man, So happy for you,
Excited for this opportunity for you, for this football team,
and look forward to Saturday and seeing what the fighting
Tigers look like they're in Tuscaloos.
Speaker 7: Thank you guys for having me. Appreciate it very much.
Go Tigers, baby, Internet.
Speaker 3: Coach Frank Wilson good enough to join us here. Let's go,
let's go, Let's let's go. I want to be a
part of that fight. Yeah, you can come hang out.
You can hang on the booth with us. We're not
letting you talk, though, fight anyone in the booth.
Speaker 2: Let you talk.
Speaker 3: It's pretty small. It's like a phone booth fight, which is,
you know, sometimes the best one.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Matt on the call, Ah, what are
you doing? It's quarter quarter half? Yeah I can.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine being electrically Yeah, it would be electric,
It certainly would be. I can't thank coach Frank enough.
Obviously crazy, crazy time for him. But I reached out
to him yesterday, Matt, and He's like, of course, yeah,
Soaid of course I'll come on. He's like the other
day when I called on y'all during y'all showtime. We're like,
we're all there, Like yeah, he goes, all right, I'll
be there. Yep, that's right. I think that's what we
do for each other. Remember the in the movie.
Speaker 6: I hate to make this reference, but like in the
movie the Replacements, the first play of the second half
in the last game got eleven personal fails. Yeah, because
they went and picked the fight they did. Hey, there's
some penalties from aggression.
Speaker 2: I might with him. I'm okay with it to get
let's trade in all possibly, Let's.
Speaker 6: Trade exactly holding calls on water stream yard penalty.
Speaker 3: Let's go set the tone, let them know. All right,
we'll take a break. More O t B when we
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Speaker 6: Rouge Dot can I can I save a couple of
quotes from our I wrote a couple of things now
when Frank was talking, because that was here an elis
Tiger fan. If you are ready to roll, if you
wanted a little change, listen to that interview.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want some juice and you want the
juice meter to go up as you get ready for Tuscaloosa,
you ask them what we're going to see.
Speaker 6: Quote, You're going to see a team that is willing
to fight, a team that is willing to strain. We
are going to there to fight. We are going there
to pick a fight. That's the message you want right now,
that's the message you want. After all the dirty laundry
that's been aired since Kelly's been fired, all of that,
we kind of see the writing.
Speaker 2: On the wall of what was.
Speaker 6: We don't need to talk about that right now. Because
we had a head coach, an interim head coach Frank Wilson.
That is setting the tone, setting the message, and everything
that we've heard coming out of that building is all
positive vibes, and everybody, you got the buy in that
you've been wanting that you should have got from your
your high dollar head coach. We are going to fight,
and you're gonna see a team that's willing to strain.
I loved the use of words right there. Absolutely, and
we can't wait to watch coach.
Speaker 2: That sounded like Muhammed Ali.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go pick a fight and do it
the right way. He said, do it the right way.
Talk with our pads and our helmet.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Only only one thing.
Speaker 3: Left to do now, got my heart pumping, got a
racing more OTB when we come back.
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