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Speaker 2: rock and roll. I'll start with something that I said yesterday.
Speaker 2: I know at least a few times, but it's excited.
Speaker 2: It's excited to be excited because there's a big time
Speaker 2: Louisville basketball game tomorrow. And I mean I always knew
Speaker 2: that that was exciting, right, We love Louisville basketball around here.
Speaker 2: Of course, if you're a Louisville fan, if you're a
Speaker 2: Kentucky fan, you know you understand but it's you know,
Speaker 2: your love is for the other team, and your hate
Speaker 2: is for Louisville like our hate is for you. But
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, we care about college basketball
Speaker 2: around here more than most, maybe more than anybody, if
Speaker 2: you think about it. And I think when you really
Speaker 2: want to present evidence to anybody else out there, when
Speaker 2: it comes to just how petty, childish and just intense
Speaker 2: the rivalry is, I think the last twenty four hours
Speaker 2: have given us some good evidence as far as just
Speaker 2: the whole back and forth about ticket sales and all that,
Speaker 2: which we'll get into that later on. But anyways, there's
Speaker 2: a big game tomorrow at noon, Louisville and Tennessee, and
Speaker 2: I really don't remember the last time there was this
Speaker 2: kind of a buzz, And one of the big reasons
Speaker 2: is because there's a new era and Louisville basketball the
Speaker 2: last few years has really been nothing of what we
Speaker 2: know it to be and know it can be. And
Speaker 2: you know, I hadn't thought about this until I was
Speaker 2: talking to a friend earlier this week who has a
Speaker 2: younger kid that's, like, you know, a teenager, and he's
Speaker 2: a Louisville fan. But just because of how long it's
Speaker 2: been since Louisville was really like relevant. I mean, he
Speaker 2: doesn't know what it feels like, meaning his son, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, if you're a teenager, then sure you
Speaker 2: you know, you were probably pretty young. But man, you know,
Speaker 2: Louislle basketball is a big deal, and I'm sure they
Speaker 2: do know that it's a big deal despite how bad
Speaker 2: things have been lately. But like you've you know, you
Speaker 2: probably don't remember like the last time Louisville went on
Speaker 2: a deep tournament run, because you know what, this will
Speaker 2: be the ten year anniversary since the last time Louisville
Speaker 2: went to the second weekend. Crazy to say, but it's
Speaker 2: the truth. So it's been a while, and that makes
Speaker 2: it even more awesome to be in this position where
Speaker 2: you've got a big time opponent coming to town and
Speaker 2: you've got a chance to knock off a good team
Speaker 2: and get a win with real value in just the
Speaker 2: second career game that your coach has coached. And you know,
Speaker 2: I felt like earlier this week and I did it yesterday,
Speaker 2: did it Wednesday? I don't know if it was Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I don't know when I put it out there, and
Speaker 2: I probably presented it incorrectly. And what I mean is that, like,
Speaker 2: I think Louisville's gonna win. I think they're better, and
Speaker 2: I feel I felt like that was gonna be some
Speaker 2: kind of like a big shocker, like a big surprise
Speaker 2: thing when it comes to throwing that out there, because again,
Speaker 2: Louisville hasn't won a game against a good team and
Speaker 2: how long, like a long time. So just because maybe
Speaker 2: it hasn't happened in a while, maybe, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: that's why I assume that people would be taken aback, like, wait,
Speaker 2: he thinks they're going to win, But a lot of
Speaker 2: people think Louisville is either going to win or that
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a close game. Because right now, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you go to I checked DraftKings earlier, if you
Speaker 2: go to FanDuel Sportsbook, right now, Louisville in this game tomorrow,
Speaker 2: they opened up as one point underdogs, and I don't
Speaker 2: think there's been any change since then, but I am
Speaker 2: gonna double check because you know, it wouldn't shock me
Speaker 2: if there's already been been some movement here. Let's see,
Speaker 2: I gotta scroll all the way down, and that's one
Speaker 2: of the you know, I love the amount of college
Speaker 2: basketball games that we get to bet on, it's awesome,
Speaker 2: but if you're looking for one specific game any day
Speaker 2: of the year, really you're gonna have a tough time
Speaker 2: finding it because there's so many games going on, and
Speaker 2: maybe they don't have it yet here at Fandel. But
Speaker 2: I know on DraftKings Louisville opened up as a one
Speaker 2: point underdog, and if that ends up being what it
Speaker 2: tips off at, I mean that tells you that the
Speaker 2: expectation is that it's going to be a pretty it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a pretty close game. However, I'm wrong, so
Speaker 2: it's now up and maybe it opened up here at Fandel.
Speaker 2: I'll pull up DraftKings and see what it is now.
Speaker 2: But right now Tennessee is two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2: So if it did open up at minus one, it's
Speaker 2: now minus two and a half for Tennessee, which, hey,
Speaker 2: that's still tells you that the expectation is that it's
Speaker 2: going to be a close game. And I think it'll
Speaker 2: be a close game, but I think louis is going
Speaker 2: to come out on the winning side. My confidence has
Speaker 2: grown as we get closer to the game, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure some of that is due to you know the
Speaker 2: fact that I'm excited. It's wishful thinking a little bit
Speaker 2: on my end, but I also don't think it's any
Speaker 2: kind of crazy stretch to see Louisville going out there
Speaker 2: playing pretty well and knocking off a Tennessee team that
Speaker 2: I don't really know how good they are. Now again,
Speaker 2: we don't know how good Louislle is either. Let's be honest,
Speaker 2: they haven't played anybody that is going to challenge him
Speaker 2: the way Tennessee probably will. But real exciting. Again, it's
Speaker 2: exciting to be excited. And I knew that the good
Speaker 2: vibes would feel better than they typically do because of
Speaker 2: what's going on the last few years, but it's even
Speaker 2: it's exceeded that, to be honest with you, all right again,
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Speaker 2: fun show. It's a Friday, good vibes, no doubt, and
Speaker 2: we are gonna have one guest join us. Coming up
Speaker 2: here at four point thirty. We'll talk to Ben McKee.
Speaker 2: He covers the Tennessee Volunteers for the twenty four to
Speaker 2: seven Sports Network. We'll get his thoughts on this matchup.
Speaker 2: He obviously can tell us much more about this Tennessee
Speaker 2: team than most And you know, I I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: get it right out of the way as soon as
Speaker 2: we bring him in. I'm just gonna ask, are you
Speaker 2: surprised to see this spread where it is? And I
Speaker 2: feel like it's gonna be and I don't know Ben
Speaker 2: at all. In fact, I talked to him for the
Speaker 2: first time today. We've never spoke other than hey, you
Speaker 2: want to come on the show. But I kind of
Speaker 2: feel it's gonna be one of the other. He's either
Speaker 2: gonna be oh no, not at all. I think the
Speaker 2: Louisville can win, or he'll be like, yeah, really surprised
Speaker 2: that Rick Barnes and the Balls aren't, you know, double
Speaker 2: digit favorites. But you know, really that wouldn't make sense
Speaker 2: because you know, I think when you stop for just
Speaker 2: a millisecond and like consider where we are in college
Speaker 2: sports and what Pat Kelsey was able to do. And
Speaker 2: it's not to say that he put together the dream team,
Speaker 2: but like if he stopped for just a second and
Speaker 2: consider that, you would say, yeah, wouldn't be a shocker
Speaker 2: if it's close game, but Tennessee's probably the better team,
Speaker 2: so they'll win. So yeah, that they'll be favored by
Speaker 2: you know, a few points, Like that's not some crazy
Speaker 2: thing to come to when it when you talk like
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what you think is gonna happen
Speaker 2: in a game, but a lot of people don't, right,
Speaker 2: it's recency biased. It's you know, out of sight, out
Speaker 2: of mind, meaning that if you're just thinking of Louisville lately,
Speaker 2: you're probably thinking about how bad they stunk, which is true,
Speaker 2: but now you can flip it really quickly. And Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey didn't just go out and you know, hit the
Speaker 2: streets of Louisville asking kids locally to walk on. He
Speaker 2: went out and put together a pretty damn good team
Speaker 2: with the help of h with some innile money. So
Speaker 2: again we'll talk about it coming up here at around
Speaker 2: four point thirty. No Louisville football game this weekend, in fact,
Speaker 2: no Kentucky football game either. I don't think I think
Speaker 2: they're off. Then they have Murray, then they have then
Speaker 2: they have Texas, and then of course you know it's
Speaker 2: the it's the Governor's Cup game. But we are still
Speaker 2: going to talk some college football because there's still some
Speaker 2: games to wager on. I'm not going to leave John out.
Speaker 2: His Hoosiers have a big game coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2: I'll just ask you real quick as we get the
Speaker 2: party started. I feel like there's more confidence in this
Speaker 2: one than there was against Michigan State. Not with just
Speaker 2: you specifically, but like I think Indiana dominating after being
Speaker 2: down to nothing, has made it to where there's now
Speaker 2: an expectation like, no, we're gonna go beat Michigan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do feel that way, so much so
Speaker 1: that I am actually taking the minus fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1: So am I against the Michigan And I usually don't
Speaker 1: bet on my Hoosiers. I have been the metrics say
Speaker 1: everything they cover spreads. The only time that they didn't
Speaker 1: technically was the opener against FIU. But until they prove otherwise,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna start riding the train of them
Speaker 1: covering the spread.
Speaker 2: I meant when I was talking yesterday to Brian Edwards,
Speaker 2: and I said, the safest thing in the last month
Speaker 2: for me specifically is Kurt Signetti to cover like he's
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you could make the case. And
Speaker 2: again it's all you know, each individual person's perspective, how
Speaker 2: they see it. I mean, after they got down ten
Speaker 2: oh and then you know, gradually climb back in. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was a pretty demoralize And again I know Michigan
Speaker 2: State's not great, in Michigan is better, but like you know,
Speaker 2: that was you don't know what you're gonna do in
Speaker 2: certain situations until what you end up in certain situations
Speaker 2: and they fell behind double digits and then just you know,
Speaker 2: kept rolling and completely demolished the state rest of the way.
Speaker 1: They held Michigan State to minus thirty six rushing yards
Speaker 1: last week.
Speaker 2: Insane. And again I was gonna bet on them before
Speaker 2: I knew that. Now that I know that, I feel
Speaker 2: even better. I mean, I kind of expect Indiana to
Speaker 2: win out like I'm well aware of the schedule and
Speaker 2: that when they get to Ohio State. Ohio State's going
Speaker 2: to be substantially different than any other team on.
Speaker 1: Their schedule, it'll really show if they belong in the
Speaker 1: elite team or not.
Speaker 2: That's really what it comes down to. And I think
Speaker 2: that's going to be one of the more fascinating matchups
Speaker 2: in college football this season, not just for Indiana fans,
Speaker 2: not just for Big Ten fans, but because Indiana has
Speaker 2: given you nothing visually to make you think that they're
Speaker 2: not really really good. But yes, their schedule is what
Speaker 2: it is, and they're Indiana. You've never seen this from
Speaker 2: them before, so there's going to be anticipation, I think,
Speaker 2: to just see, Okay, it's how real is this? And
Speaker 2: I can't wait? And I think they will be unbeaten
Speaker 2: when they get there, and hopefully they win by fifteen
Speaker 2: or more on Saturday. All right, so real quick, before
Speaker 2: we get to our first break, how about Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: last night? How about I mean, down twenty one to
Speaker 2: seven early in the third quarter, and he finds a
Speaker 2: way to will his team back, and Lamar is making
Speaker 2: his MVP seasons look pretty blag considering what he's doing
Speaker 2: this year. I mean, he's been spectacular, and that's not
Speaker 2: really a surprise. He set that standard. But if you're
Speaker 2: not watching closely, which a lot of people probably aren't.
Speaker 2: A if you're not a Ravens fan and you just
Speaker 2: don't really consume a lot of NFL, you just kind
Speaker 2: of keep up with it, maybe just because of fantasy
Speaker 2: football or whatever, you wouldn't. I mean, you may just
Speaker 2: think this is a Louisville Homer telling you this because
Speaker 2: you know he loves Lamar, which both things can be true.
Speaker 2: I do love Lamar, but also like it's not about
Speaker 2: that he's I mean, everybody's saying it. The guy has improved,
Speaker 2: like it's a scary thing for the NFL. The guy
Speaker 2: collected two MVPs and then had a lot better and
Speaker 2: it's little things. I'm not someone that can tell you,
Speaker 2: you know, each quarterback how great everyone in the NFL
Speaker 2: is in particular order, and who's good at this, who's
Speaker 2: bad at that. I mean, I think we kind of
Speaker 2: know who gets it done, who's pretty good, who's not.
Speaker 2: But like Lamar, I mean, he's making plays now with
Speaker 2: his arm. He's making decisions now that he didn't make
Speaker 2: in previous seasons. Again when he won the MVP. He's
Speaker 2: got clearly some good weapons around him. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: about that. I mean, Flowers was a great draft pick
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Bateman came through big last night.
Speaker 2: And then obviously Derrick Henry is special. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: still getting it done at an ancient age when you
Speaker 2: consider running backs, although he really isn't that old. It's just,
Speaker 2: you know, it's crazy that nobody else thought there was
Speaker 2: much juice left in the tank for him. And the
Speaker 2: Ravens were willing to pay big money because of their
Speaker 2: window here being, you know, in the now, like if
Speaker 2: they're going to win a Super Bowl, the Ravens need
Speaker 2: to get it done here sooner rather than later. So
Speaker 2: they paid. But man, I think they're getting their money's worth,
Speaker 2: no doubt, so the ending. Clearly there was some controversy
Speaker 2: as far as some no calls late, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'm glad it worked out the way it did because
Speaker 2: I wanted that win. I mean, the Bengals and the
Speaker 2: Ravens have given us the two most entertaining NFL games
Speaker 2: of the season so far. I don't even think it's
Speaker 2: a debate. Maybe there's a game I'm forgetting about, but
Speaker 2: they were electric in their first meeting where it was
Speaker 2: just a back and forth shootout, and then last night
Speaker 2: it was kind of that as well. I mean, Lamar
Speaker 2: was on the set with the Amazon crew and asked
Speaker 2: to kind of describe it, and he said it remind
Speaker 2: him reminded him of a video game, which is true.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just back and forth, back and
Speaker 2: forth as impressive as Lamar Jackson was igniting that comeback
Speaker 2: and making big plays. I mean, Jamar Chase is unguardable
Speaker 2: in space. I mean, it's it's it was almost and
Speaker 2: clearly he did a little taunting, a little celebrating last night,
Speaker 2: as both sides did. I don't have any issue with it,
Speaker 2: but on a couple of those plays, you got guys
Speaker 2: running next to him, and he's just like toying with him,
Speaker 2: like knowing I'm gonna make him think that they might
Speaker 2: get me. But nope, we're going if we're if I'm
Speaker 2: in space and we're next to each other, you ain't
Speaker 2: catching me. I mean, he's look, Joe Burrow is really good.
Speaker 2: He's playing really good football. You know, clearly he's he's
Speaker 2: He's now one and six against Lamar all time. And
Speaker 2: this is not a this is not a shot at
Speaker 2: Burrow in any way, because again, he's really good. But
Speaker 2: I don't know why there's not more talk about how
Speaker 2: they need Chase just as much as they need Burrow.
Speaker 2: I think, I mean again that maybe nobody talks about
Speaker 2: it because everybody thinks that's a crazy take and that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But quarterbacks matter, I know that, and finding a really
Speaker 2: good quarterback that can be your franchise is harder than
Speaker 2: finding a really good receiver. But Jamar Chase isn't just
Speaker 2: a really good receiver. He's insanely good. And when they
Speaker 2: made that run to the super Bowl, it was all
Speaker 2: about Burrow being the face for the franchise and the future,
Speaker 2: and he had so much Memorentum coming out of college
Speaker 2: and all that stuff's legit, and I think it was worth,
Speaker 2: it was deserving, but there wasn't enough, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: acknowledgment that Jamar Chase was a big part of that
Speaker 2: two breaking all kinds of records. So look, the reality
Speaker 2: is they both benefit from each other in a major way.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you take Chase off that team, Burrows
Speaker 2: still good, but how I mean Jamar Chase puts puts
Speaker 2: that offense in places that you know, maybe you could
Speaker 2: claim no other quarterback could could get it to Chase
Speaker 2: the way Burrow does, But I don't really know if
Speaker 2: I believe that. Like with Chase, it's just I mean,
Speaker 2: he can get open. He's electrifying when it comes to
Speaker 2: speed and athleticism, and he's not that big, but if
Speaker 2: you can just get him the ball in space, he's
Speaker 2: gonna go make a play. Now, obviously, his numbers and
Speaker 2: his performance last night looked a lot better than I mean,
Speaker 2: I might've been a career performance for him because he
Speaker 2: was playing against the Ravens defense and their secondary is
Speaker 2: just god awful. I mean, I was asking myself this
Speaker 2: last night, who do you think Lamar Jackson in his career,
Speaker 2: trusts more the offensive line that nearly got him killed
Speaker 2: the season he won a Heisman, or this secondary, this
Speaker 2: defense essentially for the Ravens. Who I mean, really the
Speaker 2: game would have been over in the Ravens covered if
Speaker 2: it not been for just, you know, some blatant penalties
Speaker 2: that like you just can't do. I mean, just inexcusable
Speaker 2: was some of the mistakes they made. And they got
Speaker 2: bailed out too. Let's be real. The helmet to helmet
Speaker 2: was a was a real penalty that probably should have
Speaker 2: been called the whole. I think it's a little debatable,
Speaker 2: but if they called it, I don't think you could
Speaker 2: claim it was you know, egregious. I don't think it
Speaker 2: had an impact on the play. But that's not really
Speaker 2: what reffs are supposed to do. They're supposed to just
Speaker 2: call it like it is. Well we all know that's
Speaker 2: not I mean, clearly, there's some things they'll call early
Speaker 2: in a game that they won't call late. And I
Speaker 2: think that's just a reminder that they're human beings, they're
Speaker 2: not robots. That it's tougher to call those things late
Speaker 2: when the game's on the line. But Lamar I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's so good and he was already so good
Speaker 2: and now he got better and it's it's really a
Speaker 2: scary thing. Mouse stayed up with me last night, way
Speaker 2: past his bedtime. We watched the whole game, and he
Speaker 2: wasn't he wasn't very happy early on with that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I mean again they got off to a rough start.
Speaker 2: But speaking of growth for Lamar and just you know,
Speaker 2: him doing things that you know, and maybe he's always done,
Speaker 2: but now because he's been around long. You know, he's
Speaker 2: been in the NFL for gosh. I mean, he won
Speaker 2: his Heisman eight years ago. Crazy to think that it's
Speaker 2: been that long. But he's got a couple of MVPs.
Speaker 2: He's clearly a veteran, but he's still a young veteran,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. But like in the
Speaker 2: locker room, I think it was Bateman who said after
Speaker 2: the game, like what was said, and he just said,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. I mean, he got us right. And like,
Speaker 2: Lamar's always been somebody that I think people respect the
Speaker 2: hell out of him because of his talent, the way
Speaker 2: he carries himself. He's a competitor, and his leadership I
Speaker 2: think has been something that has always been there, but
Speaker 2: I think it's evolved now to where he clearly will
Speaker 2: I mean, he could probably tell the coaches to get
Speaker 2: out of the locker room and halftime. I got this now.
Speaker 2: I doubt that happened, and that wouldn't be ideal because
Speaker 2: you know, I just don't think that's normal, But like,
Speaker 2: that's his that's his franchise, and these guys respect him,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what he said, but clearly it
Speaker 2: worked because that was a heck of a comeback for
Speaker 2: the Ravens. And how about how about a Thursday night
Speaker 2: game that is easily one of the best Thursday night
Speaker 2: games we've ever had as far as just the back
Speaker 2: and forth. Maybe I'm exaggerate reading in a little bit,
Speaker 2: maybe it's some recency biased on my end, but really,
Speaker 2: really hell of a game. Now, if you're a Bingals fan,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a punch to the gut. But
Speaker 2: still if you watch that with no rooting interest, or
Speaker 2: as a Ravens fan or a Lamar fan, it was awesome.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, We'll try to give you guys
Speaker 2: an awesome show here on a Friday afternoon. We obviously
Speaker 2: need to discuss the whole ticket back and forth between
Speaker 2: Louisville and Kentucky fans. I love it. Also, some big
Speaker 2: news on a Friday that I'm sure it's getting a
Speaker 2: lot of national attention. But Todd Golden at Florida, I mean,
Speaker 2: if what is alleged by the student newspaper that he
Speaker 2: was doing as far as stalking, sexual harassment, like, yikes, big, yikes.
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Speaker 2: a Friday afternoon, a beautiful, beautiful afternoon here in Louisville,
Speaker 2: and should be a really good weekend. And that's exciting, right.
Speaker 2: I worked out perfect here with the bye week for Louisville,
Speaker 2: the second bye week, which typically you would never have
Speaker 2: a bye week this late in the year. But again,
Speaker 2: it times out perfectly because there's a big basketball game
Speaker 2: that clearly I mean, if you're a Louisville fan, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think we'd all agree that this is the first time,
Speaker 2: probably since the Michigan game in twenty nineteen, where you know,
Speaker 2: there was a buzz in regards to like, man this
Speaker 2: big time, like let's let's go, let's I mean big
Speaker 2: opportunity that you felt good about meeting. You felt like
Speaker 2: your team was going to be able to take advantage
Speaker 2: of said big opportunity. When I say the Michigan game,
Speaker 2: I mean the one when you got back from playing
Speaker 2: WKU and Nashville over the Thanksgiving weekend. Michigan just wrapped
Speaker 2: up the I think they won the Battle for Atlantis
Speaker 2: and Juwan Howard's second maybe first year, and they ended
Speaker 2: up and I don't remember I should remember this. Did
Speaker 2: Michigan end up number one in Louisville. No, Here's what
Speaker 2: it was. Louisville ended up being number one because other
Speaker 2: teams lost, and then Michigan ended up jumping from like
Speaker 2: being unranked to winning the Battle for Atlantis to being
Speaker 2: like a top ten team. And it was your first
Speaker 2: real challenge. And of course Louisville, you know, came through
Speaker 2: in the atmosphere was crazy. It wasn't a sellout. But
Speaker 2: if you go back and look at that game, it
Speaker 2: was Chris Max's second year. Obviously they were a preseason
Speaker 2: top ten with Britain, they brought everybody back and you
Speaker 2: know that team was really good, and we'll never know
Speaker 2: how good they would have been in the tournament because
Speaker 2: there wasn't a tournament. But you know, that's the last
Speaker 2: time I can remember, you know, something similar to this.
Speaker 2: But I think this is a little bit different. Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't get the type of crowd that we
Speaker 2: had at that Michigan game, and we'll see tomorrow. But
Speaker 2: you know, let's be real here, because of what's gone
Speaker 2: on from then until now, I think it's ramped up
Speaker 2: the anticipation and the excitement, and that's awesome. You know,
Speaker 2: nobody wanted to go through as a Louis basketball fan
Speaker 2: what's happened in the last few years. But if there
Speaker 2: is a silver lining, man, now that you're in this
Speaker 2: position again, and I'm not saying they're gonna win, I
Speaker 2: mean I think they will, and I'm I've said it.
Speaker 2: I believe they're going to win, but you know, obviously
Speaker 2: they could lose, and that hopefully wouldn't do rail a
Speaker 2: whole lot as far as the momentum. But I mean
Speaker 2: the scenario here where you are two games into your
Speaker 2: tenure and you can pack the Young Center really not
Speaker 2: totally full, but you know, a good crowd that if
Speaker 2: you're watching at home rather you're just a stranger watching
Speaker 2: college basketball on a Saturday at noon, or if you're
Speaker 2: watching at home as a Louisville fan or a Tennessee fan,
Speaker 2: here's something I do feel good about. I have no
Speaker 2: clue when it comes to the actual number as far
Speaker 2: as the amount of people that are going to show up,
Speaker 2: but it's going to be full enough that the lower
Speaker 2: Bowl probably doesn't have many empty seats at all, and
Speaker 2: the people that are going to be there are going
Speaker 2: to be into it, and that's going to give Louisville
Speaker 2: a really good atmosphere, a really good home court environment
Speaker 2: to give them, you know, an advantage. So you know
Speaker 2: that is that's exciting, no doubt. Now, yesterday, towards the
Speaker 2: end of the shows in the five o'clock hour, I
Speaker 2: played sound from a video that probably you know, the
Speaker 2: visual was a bigger part of it than than the audio,
Speaker 2: but it was still worth I think letting you guys here,
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey as he was walking around campus getting students
Speaker 2: fired up about the game, asking them to come, encouraging
Speaker 2: them to come and show up and fill up the
Speaker 2: student section, and it got a lot of attention nationally.
Speaker 2: In fact, Front Office Sports posted something about it, which
Speaker 2: is a huge publication covering sports, business, sports media. Other
Speaker 2: college basketball accounts posted it, you know, prop it up
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey, and then of course, you know, the rival
Speaker 2: used it as I mean, that's what they do. The rival.
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans, you know, used it as an opportunity to
Speaker 2: just you know, I guess act like Louisville. You know, God,
Speaker 2: look how sad it is. This is what has to
Speaker 2: be done to get people to come to a game.
Speaker 2: So I'm not at all surprised that that was twisted
Speaker 2: by our rival to make it appear that way, like,
Speaker 2: because even they know that that's not what that was.
Speaker 2: But when you get a chance to find even a
Speaker 2: teeny tiny thing that you could potentially, in your own
Speaker 2: mind manipuel late, you know, just turn it into something
Speaker 2: that it's not, you're gonna do it because that's what
Speaker 2: a rivalry does. That's what you know. I will say
Speaker 2: this and let me back up a second here to
Speaker 2: to kind of go a little deeper the rivalry here
Speaker 2: between Louisville and Kentucky fans when it comes to really
Speaker 2: anything in Louisville. But we're talking about basketball specifically here,
Speaker 2: you can't relate to it unless you're a part of it.
Speaker 2: So it is difficult to you know, to to to
Speaker 2: understand it in that aspect. But well, let me let
Speaker 2: me back up, let me let me, let me carefully
Speaker 2: reword it. You can't. It's more about not being able
Speaker 2: to relate. Like you know, you see that we're lunatics
Speaker 2: about every little thing, right, No better example than the
Speaker 2: way they filled up Freedom Hall for the TBT game.
Speaker 2: You know, you can go back to twenty twelve the
Speaker 2: dialysis clinic, like you know, I mean, we we get
Speaker 2: into the petty levels around here as far as the
Speaker 2: rivalry that I don't know where else they come even
Speaker 2: close to it when it comes to matching our petty
Speaker 2: So a lot of people can't relate. But when it
Speaker 2: comes to understanding it, it's really simple. It's not that complicated.
Speaker 2: We will make fun of each other and rib each other,
Speaker 2: go back and forth, right, throw in jabs, rivalry jabs,
Speaker 2: back and forth. We will go to great links to
Speaker 2: make fun of the other side. And if we did
Speaker 2: have any moment of like reflection where we could like
Speaker 2: hit pause and the rivalry energy that is just wired
Speaker 2: in you. It's part of your DNA. Like if you
Speaker 2: could just do something to like pause that for a second,
Speaker 2: you would realize, oh wow, Like we're making fun of
Speaker 2: them for this, but if we did it, we would
Speaker 2: we would love it. Like that's really how simple it is.
Speaker 2: It's petty, it's childish, it's petty. I wouldn't have it
Speaker 2: any other way. So, like, if you really consider some
Speaker 2: of the things that we've gone back in with as
Speaker 2: fan bases, it's it's ridiculously patty. And you know Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans like today they're making fun of the way in
Speaker 2: which U of L and their partners are doing everything
Speaker 2: they can to try to make it a packed atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Rick Kieber buying up a bunch of tickets giving them
Speaker 2: away for free yesterday. Rick Kieber, of course, for those
Speaker 2: who don't know, the CEO of glob Brands, Think Suntan
Speaker 2: City and Planet Fitness, always been a big time supporter
Speaker 2: of u of L and has shown that many instances
Speaker 2: that he will support u of L in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways with nil with corporate don't I mean just
Speaker 2: being a good partner to the school's athletic department. And
Speaker 2: then yesterday just buying up a bunch of tickets and
Speaker 2: you know, giving them away to people who signed up
Speaker 2: Planet Fitness. You know they're now you know, other than
Speaker 2: what Rick did as far as just buying them up
Speaker 2: and providing a link for people to claim them. If
Speaker 2: you're a member at Planet Fitness, you could have signed up.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's still act if you could
Speaker 2: have signed up to get two free tickets, complimentary tickets,
Speaker 2: and then I think UPS bought a bunch of tickets
Speaker 2: and is going to give them away to some of
Speaker 2: their employees. I don't know the specifics of that, but
Speaker 2: clearly a lot being done for Pat Kelsey in this
Speaker 2: program by u of L, the community, their partners to
Speaker 2: make sure that this is a rocking atmosphere, which again
Speaker 2: like this is there. If they have the ability to
Speaker 2: do that where it's not, I mean clearly they do
Speaker 2: or they wouldn't do it, then that's awesome. That's something
Speaker 2: that can help speed up the process of getting this
Speaker 2: thing back to where for big games you've got close
Speaker 2: to twenty two thousand people there. So like it's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's not something that I think most would view,
Speaker 2: even people who don't give a flying rats ass about
Speaker 2: Louis of basketball. Probably wouldn't bat an eye to see
Speaker 2: that after three disastrous seasons, there's some need for community,
Speaker 2: you know, there's some there's some needed push to get
Speaker 2: a place full on a Saturday in November in the
Speaker 2: second game of the regular season. Like it's not that
Speaker 2: it's it's not a big deal. But Kentucky again, I
Speaker 2: get it. It's the rival They're gonna use it as
Speaker 2: Oh look, how sad they are. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: what they have to do to give people to go
Speaker 2: to games. And again, like I don't it doesn't do
Speaker 2: anything to me, Like I know that, Like you know,
Speaker 2: it fires people up and they get angry, and you know,
Speaker 2: if anything, I guess that's just a reminder how crazy
Speaker 2: the rivalry is. But like maybe you could, you know,
Speaker 2: not get so worked up about what a U of
Speaker 2: UK or U of L fan says that if you
Speaker 2: just realize how this works and how I laid it
Speaker 2: out like we will, it's not about what's right or
Speaker 2: wrong or what you think is laying what you think
Speaker 2: is cool. It's just if it's your team, you're gonna
Speaker 2: support it, defend it to the death. Of you seemingly
Speaker 2: at times, and if it's the rival, you're gonna do
Speaker 2: anything you can to try to weaponize that against them
Speaker 2: and make fun of them, because that's what rivals do.
Speaker 2: But not just any rivals, rivals to this level where
Speaker 2: it's this crazy and this petty. So you know, John,
Speaker 2: you're an outsider here or you don't have I mean,
Speaker 2: I do think you probably have a you probably have
Speaker 2: a side that you prefer, but I don't, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you just do that because you like working with me,
Speaker 2: But like you know, you're not a Louisville fan per se,
Speaker 2: not a Kentucky fan. Like, am I wrong there? Like
Speaker 2: from the outside, like we we just love to rib
Speaker 2: each other because we're that crazy as far as rivals,
Speaker 2: But really it's about petty stuff and that, Like deep down,
Speaker 2: I don't really think the Kentucky fans are taken aback
Speaker 2: because wow, I hope Louisville basketball can one day get back,
Speaker 2: because man, it's just sad that they're having to have
Speaker 2: some people donate tickets, like it's it's just what we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's always it's always kind of fascinated me,
Speaker 1: and I think maybe even more so now because up
Speaker 1: until this point, you're almost kind of fishing for ways
Speaker 1: to kind of be petty with each other in basketball
Speaker 1: because there's really no reason to do so. Over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, now you have two totally different
Speaker 1: scenarios where you have two brand new head coaches and
Speaker 1: you're kind of rekindling the fire of this rivalry into
Speaker 1: something that it hasn't been in a long time.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. And the reason I say that you would
Speaker 2: make fun of somebody for because again, like Louisville got
Speaker 2: crushed when they hired Pat Kelcey because you know, Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans were laughing that that's who Louisville went out and hired.
Speaker 2: And it was really really emphasized in the first few
Speaker 2: days of the hire how he'd never won a tournament game.
Speaker 2: How could Louisville hire somebody who never won a tournament game.
Speaker 2: Well then they did the same thing, what two weeks later,
Speaker 2: three weeks later, how long ago, however long it was
Speaker 2: after that, and they accepted it, right, I mean they
Speaker 2: didn't initially, but like again, it's just that's how much
Speaker 2: we are loyal to our side and how much we
Speaker 2: hate the other, because again, the rivalry is just that intense.
Speaker 2: So Matt posted the Planet Fitness email and I'll read it.
Speaker 2: Planet Fitness sent out an email to members that said,
Speaker 2: as a value Planet Fitness, Louisville member were policed to
Speaker 2: offer you the opportunity to claim two free tickets to
Speaker 2: the Saturday, November ninth Louisville Tennessee game. Click below to
Speaker 2: claim up two tickets while supplies last. And Matt shared
Speaker 2: it and just said presented without comment because Matt loves
Speaker 2: making like out And again, I'm friends with Matt talked
Speaker 2: about earlier today like this doesn't get in the way
Speaker 2: of our friendship. I know what he's doing, I know
Speaker 2: how it works, like it is what it is. But
Speaker 2: he's definitely been on the attendance thing more than I
Speaker 2: would have expected. But you know why, he's probably paying
Speaker 2: more attention to Louisville now because the rivalry has been reset.
Speaker 2: I mean, both are starting new, starting fresh, and who
Speaker 2: knows how good either of them are going to be.
Speaker 2: But you know, he posted a picture of the attendance
Speaker 2: at the Moorhead State game and it led to you know,
Speaker 2: mostly Louisville fans just jumping down his throat about how
Speaker 2: you know this is just not true at all. The
Speaker 2: crowd was awesome. There were empty seats up there at
Speaker 2: the top, but the lower bowl was pretty full, mostly full,
Speaker 2: and that atmosphere was and it was the atmosphere was great.
Speaker 2: But you know, the atmosphere can be great to everybody
Speaker 2: on television. But if there's some picture that shows five
Speaker 2: empty seats, somebody, maybe probably even probably Matt is going
Speaker 2: to post it and be like, oh, Louisville fans are sad,
Speaker 2: nobody goes games anymore, what's happened to our rival? Like
Speaker 2: that's just what he does. So maybe because he got
Speaker 2: so much pushback the last time, he just said presented
Speaker 2: without comment when he shared the picture of this email
Speaker 2: the screenshot. Well, you know, I don't know this for certain,
Speaker 2: but Matt. In twenty seventeen, as you know, Kentucky was
Speaker 2: fresh off of a an Elite eight appearance. Like they
Speaker 2: were coming off of an Elite eight appearance where if
Speaker 2: they didn't lose to Luke May and North Carolina on
Speaker 2: a buzzer beater, they probably win the national championship. So
Speaker 2: they were in a good spot. Well, cal Perry bought
Speaker 2: two thousand tickets for UK fans to go watch them
Speaker 2: play Morehead, because you know what, people weren't people weren't going,
Speaker 2: like they weren't buying tickets. So like you know, a
Speaker 2: guy that they worshiped for a long time and then
Speaker 2: of course, you know, things got sour. He did the
Speaker 2: same thing, and he did it whenever you shouldn't have
Speaker 2: ever needed to do that. Whereas Louisville, like it makes sense,
Speaker 2: like it's not gonna be a snap your fingers. Oh
Speaker 2: they got a new coach and he's he's really winning
Speaker 2: people over and then they beat Morehead staate, Oh wow,
Speaker 2: twenty two thousand are going to show up, Like that's
Speaker 2: not realistic. So doing these kind of things makes it
Speaker 2: a little bit more. You know, it's it's needed. And
Speaker 2: if people go and Louisville plays hard, it's a competitive game.
Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully they win, but even if they don't win,
Speaker 2: and the atmosphere is great, like getting doing this, you know,
Speaker 2: relying on you utilizing the help from great partners like
Speaker 2: Rick Keyber and Planet Fitness and whatnot, and whoever at
Speaker 2: ups is apparently going to help out, Like that's that's
Speaker 2: to be expected given the recent years. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if Matt knew that tweet was sitting
Speaker 2: out there, somebody kept receepts from that tweet in twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen whenever Cow bought two thousand tickets and he was
Speaker 2: praised for it. But like, I don't know, if Matt
Speaker 2: knew that he'd put that out there before, would he
Speaker 2: still have posted the Planet Fitness thing. He probably would have.
Speaker 2: He's a really good lawyer, or he was a really
Speaker 2: good lawyer. He doesn't do law anymore, so, like you know,
Speaker 2: he probably he's probably gonna be able to talk his
Speaker 2: way around it. But it is I mean again, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. Cal Perry was fresh off of
Speaker 2: an Elite eight with a really good team having moment,
Speaker 2: and yet he had to buy two thousand tickets so
Speaker 2: peop would show up to see Morehat State. Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: is inheriting a program that won twelve games total in
Speaker 2: two years. So anyways, I love it. I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: it any other way. We are petty, childish, insane and
Speaker 2: probably not good for our health, but I love it.
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