Speaker 1: It's a big night.
Speaker 2: It's a big, big night for fans of local sports
Speaker 2: television programs, maybe even a historic night as the final
Speaker 2: edition of Talking Jazz for this season, not ever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but still it's a big night as we huge welcome
Speaker 2: in the off season Talking Sports and the man, not
Speaker 2: the goat, but the man over there is Dave Fox.
Speaker 3: Although Dave, how are you good? How are you normally?
Speaker 3: Not normally? But over the last few years Locke has
Speaker 3: wrapped up Talking Jazz. Yeah, but come on, but you
Speaker 3: set me straight last year and so now it's you. Yes,
Speaker 3: Plus he wasn't available.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, ultimately, people just want top shelf talent
Speaker 2: for the closer.
Speaker 3: That's true, That's that's isn't I mean, that's where your
Speaker 3: hardest throwing pitcher is, right, he's the closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, so you bringing the talent to close out
Speaker 2: the season tonight ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Five, Cam Yu, Yeah, I'm excited. Care to give us
Speaker 1: a little primer? Well, we're gonna talk a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know, we talked so much about Cooper flag, you know,
Speaker 3: the capture the flag.
Speaker 1: But what if that doesn't happen?
Speaker 3: Spence is gonna tell you why you know, it's this
Speaker 3: guy is not falling and kind of take you through
Speaker 3: the next few And then the question I always have
Speaker 3: is this group of jazz players we just watched, you know,
Speaker 3: limp through this season. You know who's coming back that
Speaker 3: really excites you, that needs to step up, that needs
Speaker 3: to be the man?
Speaker 1: And Spence's gonna give you a couple of names for that.
Speaker 3: And I think we're gonna get your NBA predictions as well,
Speaker 3: East and West champions and the overall champions. So what
Speaker 3: more could you ask for? And Timmy Peterson's gonna drop
Speaker 3: in the top five jazz place.
Speaker 2: My guy, Yeah, my guy, Timmy Peter, you go, how
Speaker 2: is my guy doing?
Speaker 3: He's you know, I just left the studio to walk
Speaker 3: over here, and he's hard at work putting it all
Speaker 3: together for you.
Speaker 1: Right, because he puts together all the shows.
Speaker 2: He writes the five questions with Spence, what exactly what what?
Speaker 1: What exactly do you do you do over there? I
Speaker 1: read it. That's what you say.
Speaker 2: You're a professional reader. I mean you do it at
Speaker 2: a high level that you are. You are my life
Speaker 2: mentor forty years in this business whatever, with never having
Speaker 2: worked to in your life I can remember back in
Speaker 2: the day when you would take a helicopter to high
Speaker 2: school football games.
Speaker 1: Was that before the Fox is Den? No?
Speaker 3: That was after Okay, but now what I do is
Speaker 3: even more time consuming, as you know, because I'm calling
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: Right in two a week. But do you take a
Speaker 1: helicopter to those games? No? But that would be cool.
Speaker 1: You need to get that. You might be onto something.
Speaker 1: Who do you negotiate your contract with our guy? Can't
Speaker 1: you know what? Leave that to me. I'm gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna handle that. I'm gonna negotiate your work in a helicopter.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2: Helicopter transportation every high school football and basketball game.
Speaker 3: There's a reason we don't have a helicopter anymore. You
Speaker 3: know what much it costs to operate those things?
Speaker 1: A lot for it. Yeah, so, but I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to drive. But refresh my memory. Once upon a time,
Speaker 1: weren't you taking a helicopter?
Speaker 3: We called it the Touchdown Report, and I hit three
Speaker 3: games a night on Friday. I'm the helicopter. We'd fly
Speaker 3: in back then a lot. You know, the kids still
Speaker 3: watch television, so they'd have shines for you in cakes
Speaker 3: and all treats and everything, and we would get we'd
Speaker 3: hit three games in about ninety minutes and then come
Speaker 3: back and put together report on it. It was so
Speaker 3: much fun. I love flying, loved it. It was just
Speaker 3: a blast. What a setup that is? Oh it was great.
Speaker 3: Why did you guys stop doing is expect Well, because
Speaker 3: we didn't have the helicopter anymore. That's you know, first
Speaker 3: of all, you need a helicopter. Problems, you know. I
Speaker 3: will tell you a funny story though, the first year
Speaker 3: after we didn't have the helicopter, somebody the station tried
Speaker 3: to get me to do what we call the chopper report.
Speaker 3: But it was it was a Harley with a side car.
Speaker 1: That would be awesome.
Speaker 3: They actually did. I drove into what I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: It was a Bingham High school. Did it once and
Speaker 3: then it was like, yeah, we're not doing that again.
Speaker 2: Were you driving the motorcycle in the sidecar? Who was
Speaker 2: driving the bike? Our GM at the time. All right,
Speaker 2: he's not there anymore. But his brilliant idea. And I
Speaker 2: was like, this is a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: Hear that again?
Speaker 2: Moving forward? Mikelic on the bike, Yes, and I think
Speaker 2: that I think we need to.
Speaker 1: Bring that back.
Speaker 3: No, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Just a hard no. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And here's a funny thing talk about. This is just
Speaker 3: you know, Hollywood, right. I drove to the game and
Speaker 3: then got in the sidecar around back behind the school
Speaker 3: and then we drove around. Oh okay, it wasn't even
Speaker 3: reality was behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Hey, show business, show business. It was horrible.
Speaker 2: Tell me what it's been like as the Jazz TV partner.
Speaker 2: You know, when when when Quinn had his best teams
Speaker 2: with Gobert and Mitchell and they're winning fifty five or
Speaker 2: whatever games every year and they're advancing to the postseason.
Speaker 2: The Jazz were the second highest rated NBA team from
Speaker 2: a local standpoint. Number one was Golden State. I remember
Speaker 2: this because I was over at the team of the
Speaker 2: time and the Golden State Warriors team that I believe
Speaker 2: they're number one again this year in local TV ratings.
Speaker 2: But back then that was peak Steph, that was peak Durant,
Speaker 2: that was peak playing peak Draymond. So they're winning NBA titles,
Speaker 2: but the Jazz from a local standpoint were number two,
Speaker 2: and of course when the winning stopped. The attendance has
Speaker 2: been good, but the TV have been turned off a
Speaker 2: little bit. So what's it been like to call them
Speaker 2: as the TV partner?
Speaker 1: A couple of things.
Speaker 3: First of all, remember when the Jazz back in the
Speaker 3: days you were talking about, they weren't on local TV.
Speaker 3: They were on cable. They were on what was that channel?
Speaker 3: Was a Rocky Mountain something network?
Speaker 1: Yeah, some rs they all went back exactly. It doesn't
Speaker 1: even exist anymore. Root Sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it became a number of those things. It was
Speaker 3: always the same thing. They had like some ten year
Speaker 3: deal that was absurd. So in that respect, I don't
Speaker 3: even know. We weren't able to measure that against overnight
Speaker 3: normal television over their ratings.
Speaker 1: But and then two other things.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the ratings have actually been People still
Speaker 3: watch the Jazz more so than the hockey, but the
Speaker 3: hockey doesn't have as many television viewers because.
Speaker 1: The station the hockey is on is not on Comcast.
Speaker 1: Oh you're aware of that. I did not know that.
Speaker 3: So that hurts a little bit. So that you know
Speaker 3: the numbers of it's kind of like the fan base.
Speaker 3: I mean, what they have gone through this year is difficult,
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, whether you're a player, whether you're
Speaker 3: a fan, whether you're a broadcaster. I mean, it's tough,
Speaker 3: but they're still there. And it's the same thing with viewership.
Speaker 3: They're still watching. So we don't get the overnights quickly
Speaker 3: as we used to. But I'm sure at the end
Speaker 3: of the season we'll do some big breakdown on exactly
Speaker 3: how good they those are and I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: Did you hear?
Speaker 2: I did not mean to have a ratings conversation because
Speaker 2: I know you guys do a good job, but when
Speaker 2: teams lose, fans are going to turn the TV off.
Speaker 1: But did you hear justin xanik yesterday? Did your Xana?
Speaker 1: I heard part of it? Yeah, Porter, can we bring back?
Speaker 2: Is the biggest highlight from xanax pressure yesterday for Dave, Like,
Speaker 2: let's do you tell me when you're ready for that?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 1: Everyone?
Speaker 3: Ow?
Speaker 1: Are you Spence? Good to see you? All right?
Speaker 2: That's okay, good? Now, that's enough. No, I just wanted
Speaker 2: it in case you.
Speaker 1: Got a Spence mentioned I missed that part.
Speaker 2: Dave, don't overthink it. Game recognizes game. It's not a
Speaker 2: big deal. It's just like when your two basketball minds
Speaker 2: in the same room. You just kind of have this
Speaker 2: synergistic thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got a text Timmy right now, I just
Speaker 3: got a new idea for the open of Time night show. Well, look,
Speaker 3: did that make the feed that they because sometimes.
Speaker 1: They edit those.
Speaker 2: But I mean, obviously I'm beging tongue in cheek because
Speaker 2: Justin's I'm not the first thing that Justin said after
Speaker 2: greeting a fellow basketball simon again I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about it was he praised the fan base for
Speaker 2: sticking with them during this process. And Justin's point, which
Speaker 2: is correct, is if you go across the landscape of
Speaker 2: pro basketball and if you attend games in other markets
Speaker 2: where they're doing what the Jazz are doing, those buildings
Speaker 2: are maybe half full, maybe, and those TV ratings are
Speaker 2: in the toilet. What does this say to you about
Speaker 2: the culture that has been built here for fifty years?
Speaker 2: The Jazz fans are so intensely connected with this team,
Speaker 2: even when they're not serious about winning.
Speaker 1: Well, two things.
Speaker 3: First of all, there are some decent teams in the
Speaker 3: NBA that don't have full buildings, So don't forget that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not I'm obviously, you know, the Lakers
Speaker 3: fill it up, and the top teams do, There's no
Speaker 3: doubt about that. But secondly, if you go back over,
Speaker 3: the Jazz have been through a couple of these, never
Speaker 3: as bad as this, obviously they have. They have more
Speaker 3: losses this year than they've ever had before, but they've
Speaker 3: been a couple of through a couple of rebuilding process.
Speaker 3: Remember when Jerry Sloan left and Ty Corbin took over
Speaker 3: and the team really struggled, and even then they were
Speaker 3: still filling up.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of things are the Jazz have.
Speaker 3: Been the pro sport for so long that you know,
Speaker 3: everyone just has embraced them. You know there's more now obviously,
Speaker 3: and it's growing, but from the word go, now, first.
Speaker 1: Couple of years, it wasn't so good. Right.
Speaker 3: Your dad was involved in helping turn things around, so
Speaker 3: he remembers those days. You remember the old Frank Laden
Speaker 3: line when Yeah, someone called up with time the game is,
Speaker 3: I said, what time can you be here?
Speaker 1: Things like that. Shout out to Fran classic line, shout
Speaker 1: out absolutely.
Speaker 3: But I I just I think when you adopt the
Speaker 3: team and you're that invested for that long, your heart
Speaker 3: just doesn't leave it. And kids were raised on it,
Speaker 3: and now they're raising their kids on it, and maybe
Speaker 3: it'll change when we get more and more.
Speaker 1: We've got a hockey team now, we have soccer.
Speaker 3: In the sun, and what happens when the Millers get
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball, which I think will happen. Maybe that
Speaker 3: dilutes some things, but I just think, you know, there's
Speaker 3: there's a loyalty, a level of loyalty that you just
Speaker 3: don't see with other markets that have way more choices
Speaker 3: than we used to have. It's you know, it's getting
Speaker 3: better now and they've just stuck with it. It's very impressive,
Speaker 3: really impressive. So I don't know how much longer they
Speaker 3: can do it.
Speaker 2: And that's where I want to go next, because and
Speaker 2: Justin alluded to this and Will was kind of asked
Speaker 2: about it loosely as well, And the reality is it's
Speaker 2: just like people ask me like, hey, how will Alex
Speaker 2: Jensen's first team be.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know who's playing for him.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, And so we get into a
Speaker 2: conversation like what do the Jazz look like next year?
Speaker 2: And the reality is we don't know because there are
Speaker 2: so many dominoes that have to fall and pieces that
Speaker 2: could fall into place, and if they get one, and
Speaker 2: if they get Cooper, we have a different conversation.
Speaker 1: But they their.
Speaker 2: Floor is five as a result of being the worst
Speaker 2: in the NBA because of a strange echosystem, ecosystem that
Speaker 2: is incentivizing losing, and that's what pro basketball does, which
Speaker 2: needs to change. But if you're going to incentivize losing
Speaker 2: for teams in certain situations, if I'm Xanic and Age,
Speaker 2: I'm doing the same thing they're doing, so I'd get it.
Speaker 2: But as a result of being the worst team in
Speaker 2: the NBA, your prize is a top five pick, but
Speaker 2: it could be five.
Speaker 1: And if it's five, we get into VJ.
Speaker 2: Edgecomb and Trey Johnson and and players that have some promise.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's fair to expect them to
Speaker 2: land on the ground to do what Cooper could potentially do.
Speaker 2: So if the lottery luck doesn't go their way, the
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is next year could look a
Speaker 2: lot like this year, and we could be sitting here
Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty six having the very same
Speaker 2: conversation we're having right now.
Speaker 1: So my question for you, David Fox, is how long.
Speaker 2: Does this fan base stick around if there's no tangible
Speaker 2: proof they're moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think you could maybe could survive another year with
Speaker 3: a little bit of a drop off.
Speaker 1: But Spence, let me tell it to the next level here.
Speaker 3: I think if the Jazz somehow lady luck shines on them,
Speaker 3: they get the number one pick and they end up
Speaker 3: with Cooper Flag, I don't see how you can do
Speaker 3: anything but go full speed ahead and let me let
Speaker 3: me ask you this. Tell me if you disagree with
Speaker 3: me on this, if they had not played the tank
Speaker 3: game and had not sat all the players that they did,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, you know, they weren't actually hurt,
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying, if.
Speaker 1: If maybe they win, David, they weren't actually hurt. Okay,
Speaker 1: never mind, I'm trying to be I've tried to be
Speaker 1: Adam Michel. That's what I said. So let's say they
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 3: Would you agree with me that this, if everyone plays
Speaker 3: when they're supposed to play all the time, this might
Speaker 3: be another ten or fifteen win plus team, which puts
Speaker 3: them over thirty, which means they're knocking on the door
Speaker 3: being a playoff team. So next year, if you if
Speaker 3: you do get Cooper Flag and he goes into your
Speaker 3: starting lineup, I say, you're all in, You're done with that.
Speaker 3: But I have a feeling that anything but Cooper flag
Speaker 3: could mean another year of this. I don't agree that
Speaker 3: if you get Flag, you do one more year of this.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If they win fifteen more games this year, they win
Speaker 2: thirty two games and that's not enough for the.
Speaker 1: Of the playoffs, but it's getting close. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: no man's land, Dave, Like, that's where you don't your
Speaker 1: improving though, that's what you're trying to do. It took.
Speaker 3: It took Oklahoma City and Houston and Detroit the same
Speaker 3: kind of improvement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about Kaid, Cunningham and SGA. You're talking
Speaker 2: about teams that actually legitimately have cornerstone pieces.
Speaker 1: The Jazz have to find one of those. What if
Speaker 1: they do get him in flag, Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If they do get Cooper Flagg, then I think we
Speaker 2: have a different conversation about what next year could look like.
Speaker 2: And we'll talk about this tonight on the show. Because
Speaker 2: if you put Cooper Flag next to Walker and next
Speaker 2: to Lowry, now you also have to hope that this
Speaker 2: offseason brings incremental improvement to Kyante and Isaiah, because if
Speaker 2: we operate off the premise that hypothetically the Jazz get lucky.
Speaker 2: Their front court is stacked, but they need guard play
Speaker 2: and they need shooting. They're not just Cooper Flag away
Speaker 2: from being good. But if they approach next year and
Speaker 2: there's no incremental resting of veterans, and they bring other
Speaker 2: pieces back and they're able to add some ancillary pieces
Speaker 2: to a good front court, then yes, you see a
Speaker 2: tangible step forward. But how good is that roster juxtaposed
Speaker 2: to Luca and Lebron and Jokic and Okasee. And that's
Speaker 2: why I do think there is this possibility out there
Speaker 2: that even with Cooper Flag, they look at a draft
Speaker 2: next year with the Boozer twins and aj debantsa in
Speaker 2: like five or six generational pieces, and we do see
Speaker 2: this again next year. I'm not saying that's what will happen.
Speaker 2: I'm saying there's a world that that's a possibility.
Speaker 3: Well, I to circle back then to the original question.
Speaker 3: I don't think the fans are going to suddenly abandon
Speaker 3: for one more year of this If they see some
Speaker 3: sort of progress, and that doesn't even necessarily mean a
Speaker 3: number of wins, because what, like you said, if you win,
Speaker 3: what was there between.
Speaker 1: Winning thirty games and seventeen games?
Speaker 3: Either way, you're a lottery team, only you're you get
Speaker 3: a worse pick. But maybe it looks a little better
Speaker 3: to the fan base to not finish dead last and
Speaker 3: be very you know, competitive throughout it. It's a hard one.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one, Spence. I think they're going to
Speaker 3: stay with them as long as they can. If if
Speaker 3: you weren't shown it progress, if you were just a
Speaker 3: terrible team, you're not even tanking, you just stink, and
Speaker 3: there have been teams like that throughout the history of
Speaker 3: the NBA, then that's maybe where you start to lose
Speaker 3: a fan base. But at least they can see progress.
Speaker 3: The next thing you have to worry about it is
Speaker 3: players that lose engagement. Like Lowry's been extremely patient. Now
Speaker 3: he also has a nice pig fat contract, so that helps,
Speaker 3: but you know, how much more does he want to
Speaker 3: do this this kind of thing? And you know, I'm
Speaker 3: calling Sexton he's he's so determined and loves to play.
Speaker 1: I don't see that being an issue.
Speaker 3: But there are probably some guys that are like, let's
Speaker 3: you know, Clarkson maybe, uh, Colin say, I don't need
Speaker 3: another year of this, Let's let's move on for me.
Speaker 2: I wonder how it resonates with their coach. I think
Speaker 2: you heard him yesterday. What did he say yesterday?
Speaker 1: I'm all in, what's he gonna say? Dave?
Speaker 2: Because I thought Andy asked a pretty brave question. I mean,
Speaker 2: the attention in the room was pretty palpable when Andy
Speaker 2: asked him that. When he said, Hey, if there's a
Speaker 2: team that actually wants to win, to want you, what
Speaker 2: would you say?
Speaker 1: Well, you're right. He can't say, well, heck, I'm gone.
Speaker 2: If they fire Mark Dagnold, I want to coach o
Speaker 2: Case tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: The weird thing about this Will Hardy dynamic, and nobody
Speaker 2: ever talks about it because Will never would. I think
Speaker 2: he's been asked about it, but he brushes over it.
Speaker 2: The head coach of the Boston Celtics should.
Speaker 1: Be Will Hardy. Yeah, you're absolutely right. He was emy
Speaker 1: Udoka's lead assistant.
Speaker 2: He takes the Jazz job, and like two weeks later
Speaker 2: they fire Udoka because of all the stuff that was
Speaker 2: happening beyond the scenes. Now Mozilla gets the job. They've
Speaker 2: won a championship, so they're finding Boston. But that job
Speaker 2: should be Will's. And I often wonder, and really, if
Speaker 2: I knew him better, I would ask him off the record,
Speaker 2: like dude Tatum Brown, you know, like champion porzingis, because
Speaker 2: I will talk about it tonight. I think they're winning
Speaker 2: it again this year, and coaches, whether they like it
Speaker 2: or not, their win loss record is attached to them forever.
Speaker 2: And Will has won thirty three percent of his games.
Speaker 2: I wonder how this lands with him.
Speaker 3: You know, just neither one of us know him all
Speaker 3: that well, but from what we hear out of him
Speaker 3: night tonight, if he practices what he preaches, I think
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where he's reconciled that and
Speaker 3: he's moved on, And he moved on pretty quickly, That's
Speaker 3: what I believe. And I think he's appreciates what Danny
Speaker 3: Angel's done in terms of bringing him in, and I
Speaker 3: think he understands what's going on here. And maybe maybe
Speaker 3: he's you know, the Missoula, the Boston Celtics of four
Speaker 3: or five years from now. Who knows well, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't say they're gonna win a title.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, like, I don't care if it's
Speaker 2: Joe Missoula, Will Hardy or Timmy p as the head coach.
Speaker 2: When you have Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown and Chris
Speaker 2: Tapsporzingis and Derek White and for the holiday. And that's
Speaker 2: why my genuine hope for Will and my hope for
Speaker 2: all of us who care about the jazz and cover
Speaker 2: the jazz is we get to see what it looks
Speaker 2: like when Will Hardy as a roster really really good players.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Dave, They've got two years they're
Speaker 2: on the clock. He's got an option next year. Then
Speaker 2: he's got an option year five. And I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what after five years, if they don't get the lottery
Speaker 2: luck that we're hoping they get, and if next year
Speaker 2: they go all in on a tank and once again
Speaker 2: the ping pong balls don't go there, and it's five
Speaker 2: years of Will Hardy as the head coach where he's
Speaker 2: won thirty percent of his games because he doesn't have players.
Speaker 2: That question Andy asked him yesterday will be answered much differently.
Speaker 3: You know, you hit on something really important, though, if
Speaker 3: you want to absolutely guarantee once again you finished dead
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 1: Make Timmy p your head coach, our guy.
Speaker 2: I wonder how Timmy would handle the stress of being
Speaker 2: the coach of the jazz. How does Timmy handle stress?
Speaker 2: He addles it pretty well, but he is all in
Speaker 2: on the jazz.
Speaker 3: He and I had a little gentleman's bet and it
Speaker 3: cost him sixty five dollars.
Speaker 2: Dave Fox counted. You get right with your maker. You're
Speaker 2: betting money.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's sixty five too late. Sixty five too late. Porter,
Speaker 3: Make sure you're saving this clip. Shame on you for
Speaker 3: taking Timmy's money.
Speaker 1: Well he hasn't paid yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well then you're not in trouble yet because we
Speaker 2: know I got Timmy likes a wager from time to time.
Speaker 3: Oh it was a good It was a really brilliant idea.
Speaker 3: The way we did this too. Love it, Love it so.
Speaker 1: Jazz.
Speaker 2: Next exciting date for the Utah Jazz is made the twelve.
Speaker 2: I can't wait when we'll see if Lady Luck shines
Speaker 2: their way and we'll talk more about the jazz tonight.
Speaker 2: What else is spinning the beanie? Did you guys cover
Speaker 2: Roy McElroy making history.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 3: It was you know, I mean we all sat there,
Speaker 3: Washington missed that button thing. Here we go again, a
Speaker 3: couple of them. Actually, there's so many side stories all
Speaker 3: that Rory being paired with d Chambeau. I mean, could
Speaker 3: you have asked for a bit and and and Bryce
Speaker 3: had even said they did not talk the entire round,
Speaker 3: which is maybe a little unusual.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if if there's if there's two
Speaker 1: guys pair that.
Speaker 3: Are somewhat closer, have a good relationship, they may chat
Speaker 3: a little bit. But there was nothing there at all.
Speaker 3: Good for him, you know, the grandson. There hasn't been
Speaker 3: a ton of them. Tiger is the last, but there
Speaker 3: have been a few, so that I'm happy for him
Speaker 3: in that respect. How did Tommy freestone or freestone back?
Speaker 1: Of course, you know it's funny.
Speaker 2: Tony has this really cool story about playing the final
Speaker 2: round in twenty nineteen with Tiger. Yes, when Tiger won
Speaker 2: the Masters, and Tony said, after they both hit their
Speaker 2: drive on one, they're walking down the fairway and he
Speaker 2: walked up to him and asked him about his kids
Speaker 2: and now, and Tiger wouldn't I didn't want to have
Speaker 2: any of it.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Tiger knew what was at stake history at
Speaker 2: sake Again, I don't know that you want the extra
Speaker 2: out of distraction when you're trying to win a championship,
Speaker 2: just mucking it up with your buddy.
Speaker 1: Well and you're and we all know where Roy stands
Speaker 1: on the whole Live thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what Bryson was thinking he was going
Speaker 3: to get out of him if he was going to
Speaker 3: have a conversation with somebody who wasn't going to be
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, Spring Football Forever twenty two game coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 3: You told me I'm nuts, but I'm kind of excited
Speaker 3: for this game because I want to see what this
Speaker 3: offense is going to look like.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You said you don't think that Dann Pierre is going
Speaker 3: to play at all. I would surely. I'd love to
Speaker 3: see him get a series. They're not going to show anything.
Speaker 1: No, no, but okay, I just want to see him
Speaker 1: drop back and throw a ball in rece like you
Speaker 1: can do that at spring practice.
Speaker 3: It's not like it's gonna I want to see it
Speaker 3: in a little more organized situation.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see that on Saturday, and I hope because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and watch it.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think these spring games are going
Speaker 2: the way of ultimately exhibitions.
Speaker 1: I think at some point I think they'll be gone.
Speaker 2: I think at some point, I don't think they'll be
Speaker 2: gone gone already go there.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be gone gone.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of schools will have some sort
Speaker 2: of fan celebration where you can show up and they're
Speaker 2: gonna do like a Pro Bowl skills challenge, you know,
Speaker 2: as opposed to like because there's so much the beause, No,
Speaker 2: it's not. There's so much at stake, certainly for Utah football,
Speaker 2: you do not want to risk injury at all. So
Speaker 2: some sort of fan celebration I think is a good idea,
Speaker 2: and I think Utah buy you. Every school should do that.
Speaker 2: But as far as the days of a spring game
Speaker 2: that's real, I bet you know.
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: At on it's way out, But while it's still there,
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go and watch it and see
Speaker 3: if maybe we can see something. And You're right, they're
Speaker 3: not gonna unload any great plays that I get that.
Speaker 3: I just want to see a little bit of something,
Speaker 3: So we'll see you just you just want to be
Speaker 3: The football is still here. I love football, as you
Speaker 3: well know. I've almost got my high school schedule done
Speaker 3: for next fall. I've got one more game to fill
Speaker 3: out and I'm done.
Speaker 1: What about our braves, They're gonna be good next year.
Speaker 1: They'll drop a little bit.
Speaker 3: Emerson guy, I'm a great quarterback and just a great kid.
Speaker 1: But he's graduated. Took him to state championship.
Speaker 3: But I think they'll be you know what, they have
Speaker 3: a great coaching staff and a good just They've got
Speaker 3: something going on there.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for him, all right, before I say
Speaker 1: you lose.
Speaker 2: Tonight is the final game for the Utah Hockey Club,
Speaker 2: year one now in the rear view.
Speaker 1: No playoffs this year, which is all right.
Speaker 2: They only had one eighty plus point season in Arizona
Speaker 2: the last decade they were there.
Speaker 1: They win tonight, they'll break ninety.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know the Jazz as far as
Speaker 2: they're rebuild, there are a lot of fans frustrated that
Speaker 2: it's not going better. This is a honeymoon phase for
Speaker 2: the hockey club, right Like I didn't feel some massive
Speaker 2: letdown when the playoffs were no longer a possibility.
Speaker 3: Well, and I believe if they went well, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if this is absolute, but I think they might
Speaker 3: be able to keep Saint Louis out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you still have a soft spot
Speaker 3: in your heart for the Blues since your dad was
Speaker 3: involved there, but.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's motivation, something to play for.
Speaker 3: You know, they looked off the good last Nights Manson
Speaker 3: and how about Keller, you know, the captain, what did
Speaker 3: he have too?
Speaker 1: I think he had two goals and to assist in
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 3: There's just it's been fun to get to know these guys, Krause, Keller.
Speaker 3: You know, they're just on and on there. It's just
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And you're right you talk about
Speaker 3: honeymoon and they were close. You know, they were in
Speaker 3: the same situation last year where they were a playoff
Speaker 3: team in what December January, and then everything collapsed when
Speaker 3: the whole were rumor about them moving came up and
Speaker 3: it really hurt them.
Speaker 1: But I like the that they're on. They seem to
Speaker 1: be on the right track.
Speaker 3: So they are lottery team just like the Jazz, but
Speaker 3: completely opposite ends of the lottery, so we'll see where
Speaker 3: that shapes up.
Speaker 2: Blues on ninety four points the second wildcard team, one
Speaker 2: point behind Minnesota, but only two ahead of Calgary, so
Speaker 2: it's still technically possible they could keep them out.
Speaker 1: So we'll see the bottle game. Are you gonna be
Speaker 1: in a better mood tonight? When am I not in
Speaker 1: a good mood? I tell? What did I do not
Speaker 1: in a good mood? I can tell when you're surly? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in a great what's going on?
Speaker 1: Are you good? Nah? I'm great. Sure you have no
Speaker 1: reason to complain day. You are misreading me? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for hopping in. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 3: I went to the Tulip Festival today with with cath
Speaker 3: and for my daughters and grandkids.
Speaker 1: That's why I will never stay married. The tulip festival. Okay,
Speaker 1: good for you, good things you do. Good to see
Speaker 1: I'll see in a couple of hot days. Thanks buddy,
Speaker 1: A Tulip festival goodness