Speaker 1: All right, you guys. Hi, I'm here with Frank Rogala
Speaker 1: and he is, well, I don't know, like a man.
Speaker 1: He's a renaissance man. He's like a musician, amazing producer
Speaker 1: of these kinds of things in real world life. But
Speaker 1: then he also is an ancient civilization researcher and he
Speaker 1: has a YouTube channel called Mortals of Earth, but he
Speaker 1: goes down all the good rabbit holes. So he's like
Speaker 1: a kindred spirit and somebody that you guys definitely need
Speaker 1: to go subscribe to and check out because he's got
Speaker 1: some really cool stuff. So welco board.
Speaker 2: Hey Frank, Hello, it's so great to see you. You know,
Speaker 2: you're one of those people that you're at a conference
Speaker 2: with thousands of people and I run into you seventy
Speaker 2: times because and I'm overjoyed every time I do. It's
Speaker 2: just like, uh, that school trip you get on and
Speaker 2: you've got that buddy, you know, and you just lock
Speaker 2: right in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I felt like I saw you everywhere at the we
Speaker 1: we saw I saw I saw you at Graham Hancocks.
Speaker 1: What was that thing called.
Speaker 2: It was, well, it was it was his only thing
Speaker 2: for the year, and it was basically it was basically
Speaker 2: basically what was the title of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, it's like I want to say
Speaker 1: blast through the Past. It's not that something like that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Graham Hancock had his own like little mini conference thing
Speaker 1: in Sedona in April, and we met each other there
Speaker 1: and then I saw you again at the Cosmic Summit
Speaker 1: and North Carolina, one of those Greensboro wherever that is.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so anyway, yeah, and we uh just
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you can kind of just tell
Speaker 1: when somebody's got their hand their finger on the pulse
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so, what's your thing, what's your what
Speaker 1: are you doing? And yeah, so okay, So Frank has
Speaker 1: got some recent access to these artifacts that he's he's
Speaker 1: going to do a little field trip, share and show
Speaker 1: us while he has access to them, a little bit
Speaker 1: about them. And they're some crazy cool artifacts from Mexico.
Speaker 1: And some people are kind of I've heard go online
Speaker 1: on the twitters or whatever. You hear people like kind
Speaker 1: of poo pooing them, saying that they're not real and
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But Frank says, otherwise, So I
Speaker 1: would like to see what you say, what do you think.
Speaker 2: So. The way I found out about these was I
Speaker 2: sat next down to sat next to somebody in a
Speaker 2: plane we have an NDA with. So I can't tell
Speaker 2: you his name, but let's just say he's extremely famous
Speaker 2: and it's going to be extremely more famous in the
Speaker 2: next couple of years. And it's a whole rabbital conversation.
Speaker 2: But it led to the he did a TV show
Speaker 2: and I had been in LA since nineteen eighty you know,
Speaker 2: I grew up in show business. And he was really
Speaker 2: bummed up because he had done a show with William Shatner.
Speaker 2: And William Shatner he says, you just like was nasty
Speaker 2: about everything I said, and I was just presenting data,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay. Number one, William Shatner is not
Speaker 2: a scientist. He's a ninety year old actor and he
Speaker 2: has a wire in his ear and there's a producer
Speaker 2: telling him what to say. And probably the format of
Speaker 2: the show was if he agrees with you, if they
Speaker 2: don't have a show, right, So anyway he goes. Well.
Speaker 2: The good thing was after it aired a couple months later,
Speaker 2: I was getting contacted by these really poor people in
Speaker 2: the middle of the desert and they were sending me
Speaker 2: these items they had. He goes and they had golden
Speaker 2: diamonds in them, and these people are really poor, and
Speaker 2: so him being a scientist, he got together with some
Speaker 2: other scientists and he started showing me photographs. And I
Speaker 2: don't know how it imprinted on me, because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm Adhd is the next person, but IM the people
Speaker 2: and I remember these artifacts. And he went through the
Speaker 2: whole discussion of what happened was these people had been
Speaker 2: finding them for generations and historically when you talk to
Speaker 2: them the Spanish, when they came through and made everybody Catholic,
Speaker 2: it's like this stuff is from the devil. And there
Speaker 2: were actual they said, there's temples and caves and things
Speaker 2: that were all blown up by the Spanish. You know,
Speaker 2: so thank you very much. But they still keep finding
Speaker 2: these and certain people find them. And after I kind
Speaker 2: of soaked that all in, I was at a conference
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas and it was just disorienting. There was
Speaker 2: so many things going on and I just kind of lost,
Speaker 2: and they're all simultaneous. I just wandered into a room
Speaker 2: and I went saw a picture of the person I
Speaker 2: can't talk about With the scientists, I can't talk about
Speaker 2: that I saw in the room. The scientists were in
Speaker 2: the room with the artifacts in the room, and when
Speaker 2: I let them know who our mutual friend was, we
Speaker 2: just hit it off. And one of them was from
Speaker 2: my home state, and so that began a friendship. And
Speaker 2: to actually know the guys on the ground who are
Speaker 2: finding them. Then to meet the scientists who are using
Speaker 2: techniques like thermo luminescence, carbon dating, and then there's also
Speaker 2: another technique which I'm not sure because there's ceramics involved.
Speaker 2: When you have ceramics, you can also date those as well.
Speaker 2: And these ceramics are not like pot shars. These are
Speaker 2: almost like porcelain. They're gorgeous. Now. Also, I had met
Speaker 2: people I could talk about. It's like Scott Walter, he's
Speaker 2: actually a geologist too. He had worked on a series
Speaker 2: and it was like great braided and the seem harmony
Speaker 2: and all these guys because they were fascinated because when
Speaker 2: they did this timeline research on these and it you know,
Speaker 2: carbonating can be a couple hundred years off, there could
Speaker 2: be issues whatever, right, thermal luminescence is pretty deadly well.
Speaker 2: Everything lined up. So there was a whole TV series
Speaker 2: done about these. It was for the Discovery Channel or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what exactly happened, but they say
Speaker 2: it changed ownership and the CEOs and you know, changed
Speaker 2: direction anyway, So one episode of this thing aired and
Speaker 2: the rest never aired. Now, also, the people in this area,
Speaker 2: they were getting this acknowledgment, and scientists interested in the
Speaker 2: government came in and built a museum and they were
Speaker 2: thrilled because wow, they're so broken. It's going to bring
Speaker 2: in some tourism. And then the government closed the museum.
Speaker 2: And then these people all had been finding these things
Speaker 2: over the years, and they had donated a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: There was like ten thousand items in this museum. Everything disappeared,
Speaker 2: everything the museum was gone, and so they're like, do
Speaker 2: not trust anybody anymore? Right, And also they have a
Speaker 2: sense for how important these are and to them, I mean,
Speaker 2: just the dirt poor people you could even imagine, you know,
Speaker 2: they have such a higher purpose that they're working with
Speaker 2: some people to make sure that these things get out.
Speaker 2: Now I've seen these for sale and EBA, which doesn't help,
Speaker 2: you know, and like I know what they are, and
Speaker 2: some what I've seen looks real because there's thousands of these,
Speaker 2: and I only guess that maybe because the area is
Speaker 2: controlled by drug cartels.
Speaker 1: And you know, I first saw I had a woman
Speaker 1: who was telling me about an artifact that was speaking
Speaker 1: to her in her head. In twenty seventeen, I went
Speaker 1: to Taos and I was building these ship things, and
Speaker 1: she was showing me the artifact, like pictures of the artifact,
Speaker 1: and she wouldn't take it out of her house and
Speaker 1: she said it was scaring her. And it was like
Speaker 1: a little gray, a little I alien looking one and
Speaker 1: it almost looked like it was on some kind of
Speaker 1: you know, white porcelain stuff with etching on it on it.
Speaker 1: And and then I kind of just was like, yeah, cool, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, like I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: was just information I in took and then I didn't
Speaker 1: think anything of it. And then in twenty eighteen, my
Speaker 1: friend didn't Yelle. She's from Wahawka. She lives in Mohawka, Mexico.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if she was digging some construction
Speaker 1: project or if it was after that. I can't remember
Speaker 1: this situation, but her husband ended up digging up a
Speaker 1: little porcelain figurine and she was he came out and
Speaker 1: showed her and I was like, this isn't so cool.
Speaker 1: This is so crazy, you know, And they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is I wonder how much this like this
Speaker 1: is like what is this? You know? And she said
Speaker 1: that they they put it on their bookshelf and then
Speaker 1: it within like a week or two, it was just
Speaker 1: gone gone, Like she's is that. She's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if like how he would have lost it, or
Speaker 1: if someone came in and still in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night, or if it she's like, or if it
Speaker 1: literally phased out of existence for us, I don't really understand.
Speaker 1: But it just was gone. It was there, and then
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later just nobody was there. It
Speaker 1: wasn't there. So, I mean, I hear these kind of
Speaker 1: stories about it, and then some of the stuff you
Speaker 1: were telling me, I was like, well, let's get let's
Speaker 1: start talking about these things. What's going on.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a long conversation. I have
Speaker 2: seven things to say about that. Wow, Okay, Well, number one,
Speaker 2: if you're still in touch with her, the woman that
Speaker 2: was afraid of hers at all, they do talk, I mean,
Speaker 2: they do communicate, but the fact the person I can't
Speaker 2: talk about called one his girlfriend. It was a big
Speaker 2: figure like this, and he sleeped with it. He slept
Speaker 2: with it in his bed. And when I saw him
Speaker 2: a couple of years later, I talked to his girlfriend
Speaker 2: who'd been with him that time. I Sai, does he's
Speaker 2: still sleep with that because I know he doesn't do
Speaker 2: anything for no reason? Right? She goes, yeah, And so
Speaker 2: some of these artifacts came into my proximity. I had
Speaker 2: told you about this story. I said, you can tell
Speaker 2: me stuff, right, and I can send you if you
Speaker 2: want to insert it the video, like okay. So I
Speaker 2: said that, and I'm in bed, and I looked down
Speaker 2: at my watch Apple watch, and Apple watches don't do
Speaker 2: anything unless you do something right. It was typing messages
Speaker 2: to me, and I've got to like, I've grab my
Speaker 2: camera and I'm taking pictures. So it's not perfect. Because
Speaker 2: it was so fast, I couldn't even read it. And anyway,
Speaker 2: a few other things happened, and we decided. I just
Speaker 2: told him, I said, stop with electronics. We'll find another
Speaker 2: way to talk. Because they ended up. I think maybe
Speaker 2: it's a struggle for them. I talked to another physicist
Speaker 2: who was explaining to me how on a quantum level
Speaker 2: you can imprint knowledge or consciousness into things. And then
Speaker 2: there's a guy that I know that can read these
Speaker 2: like that. They directly talked to him and he said,
Speaker 2: they have been left for us to lear where we're from,
Speaker 2: and they're imprinted with this knowledge. And so because I'm
Speaker 2: also thinking, like when I start showing you these, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you think you've seen something, I've got crazy. This
Speaker 2: is crazy stuff here that we have here.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's yeah tell.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, let's let's not okay. I'm going to
Speaker 2: start off with this is the first things I saw.
Speaker 2: And they call them potatoes, right so. And I thought
Speaker 2: unless that they're like a marble, right so. And they're
Speaker 2: beautifully uh marked with this dark and they don't know
Speaker 2: what the ink is yet right now, these are very iridescent.
Speaker 2: And I have a series here today that have this
Speaker 2: kind of thumb print that's been scratching in them. And
Speaker 2: my nephew said, you know, if you put your thumb
Speaker 2: in that position where like that, he goes, they fit
Speaker 2: in your hand. And like every single one that has
Speaker 2: like the thumb thing it does that. It's almost like
Speaker 2: it's a way of and if back on some of these,
Speaker 2: some of these actually has a figure with the thing
Speaker 2: that hand, which could be one of these, right, But
Speaker 2: I mean all over these are and it gets even
Speaker 2: more so as we go Egyptian kind of looking things.
Speaker 2: But they're also this kind of proto language. And trust me,
Speaker 2: I've had like every ancient language expert. We're all looking
Speaker 2: at this and trying to we don't have a Rosetta
Speaker 2: stone for these yet because we didn't really get into
Speaker 2: the age of this, but when they did, whenever there's
Speaker 2: a stone embedded, the adhesive in there is carbon based.
Speaker 2: So what they have to do is go in completely
Speaker 2: dark laboratory, they pry the stone out and they get
Speaker 2: a sample from underneath, and they can do thermal luminescence,
Speaker 2: which actually tells them the last time the sun hid it,
Speaker 2: which also could be backed up by because this adhesive
Speaker 2: can be analyzed for the carbon dating, and that also
Speaker 2: gives you that to go by. And they lined up
Speaker 2: they were eight thousand. Okay, wait, so let'st your civilization
Speaker 2: is like, you know, there's a line. You're right, so
Speaker 2: we're here, let's start over here. We're here supposedly six
Speaker 2: thousand years ago here we started civilization, right, So already
Speaker 2: we're at eight thousand, right, and then there's twelve thousand
Speaker 2: and twenty thousand over here off camera is like how
Speaker 2: old these go? Now? We were supposed to be, you know,
Speaker 2: drooling in caves with spears at that point, right, So
Speaker 2: I'm going to start. There's a lot to go through.
Speaker 2: So because there's gonna be people, this will trigger things
Speaker 2: in when they see these. A lot of them do
Speaker 2: not look very human. In fact, most of them do
Speaker 2: not look human. They've been very beautifully crafted, and every
Speaker 2: surface of them has some kind of iconography on it.
Speaker 2: This one you can vaguely see this kind of a
Speaker 2: saucer with rays coming down, and I'm that's not paradilla.
Speaker 2: You'll see, like we get more and more obvious as
Speaker 2: we go. This is another one with a thumbprint and
Speaker 2: it again, if you put it there, it kind of
Speaker 2: sits in your hand and it's kind of like, but
Speaker 2: you know that looks human, right, you know? Then we
Speaker 2: got these footprints, and then there's a lot of these
Speaker 2: kind of things with heads without feet. I always look
Speaker 2: at the feet and the fingers, and then the other
Speaker 2: thing is I've got is like another kind of saucer
Speaker 2: looking thing, right, and then we've got a feathered or
Speaker 2: perhaps scale kind of serpent dude, and then this head
Speaker 2: in the middle of it, and then his mouth is open.
Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of these spirals on things. Now.
Speaker 2: Mike Grickseeker, he's an author researcher. He's been doing a
Speaker 2: lot of work with portals, and he notices the portals these.
Speaker 1: And I've gotten to downloads that the spirals have something
Speaker 1: to do with time travel, time that it's a way
Speaker 1: to manipulate time.
Speaker 2: There's like a head like that's an eye, and the
Speaker 2: head inside the mouth of this of this, and then
Speaker 2: another kind of like skull that doesn't look quite human there. Now,
Speaker 2: what do I These tend to come in waves, like intuitively,
Speaker 2: the guys that find him go they think it's time
Speaker 2: travel involved with these because they tend to have messages
Speaker 2: and be found in waves. Now, this is one of
Speaker 2: my favorites, is the It's the tiniest one I have,
Speaker 2: and there's ones that are tiny. Year it looks like
Speaker 2: a little sombrero, right, and it has the symbology and
Speaker 2: this is like a really like it's like a porcelain
Speaker 2: so like, and so you've got that way to date
Speaker 2: it and the symbols are all over it. But you know,
Speaker 2: as with many of these, when you look, there's like
Speaker 2: a little dude in their riding, you know, and uh.
Speaker 1: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that's it's like a little saucer.
Speaker 2: All right. So now we got and what do we.
Speaker 1: Think this is? Like what is the white stone?
Speaker 2: Well, this white stone will show up in here. It
Speaker 2: actually is has some it's gonna be weird on the camera,
Speaker 2: but it has these iridescent qualities. It's a marble that
Speaker 2: Scott Walter says. It's a marble. And they've done some testings.
Speaker 2: Some of these don't seem to quite be from here.
Speaker 2: I don't have that information, but I have had friends
Speaker 2: that have told me. They said when they touched them,
Speaker 2: and said, why are they always cold? They always still cold,
Speaker 2: the matter what the temperature is. So they do have
Speaker 2: some strange properties. And you'll see, I'm sure you're.
Speaker 1: Very similar to a thing called loadstone, which is smaller
Speaker 1: than that. But loadstone is like almost like a meteorite
Speaker 1: white carbon. But they look similar to that.
Speaker 2: It's interesting and that's normal, right. Wow, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: when we get through even half of these, I just
Speaker 2: think about what that time must have been like that
Speaker 2: they were doing so many of these. Right, So this
Speaker 2: is one. I have a lot of hybrid they called
Speaker 2: the guys that are into this, you know, they have
Speaker 2: little nicknames, right. But see that faces split this side,
Speaker 2: the teeth are different than the mouth. Here, this eye
Speaker 2: is different than this one. And then there's like one
Speaker 2: of these little worm kind of like dudes. And then
Speaker 2: we've got this iconography again with the shiny thing. And
Speaker 2: then on the back this kind of feels vaguely Mayan
Speaker 2: to me. But then we've got you know, again this
Speaker 2: proto language whatever this is, right, Okay, now this one
Speaker 2: Scott Walter wanted it, and I told him he could
Speaker 2: have custody whenever he wants. But I'll show you why
Speaker 2: in a second. Now again, every surface, you know, not
Speaker 2: quite of a human. And we have like it's a
Speaker 2: templar kind of you know, they're finding this in the
Speaker 2: bottom of the lake van and these crosses, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean they predate Christian history. And then I'm always
Speaker 2: looking at the number of fingers and the postures of
Speaker 2: the figures, and look there's another face there in the bottom.
Speaker 2: I mean kind of just as a piece of art.
Speaker 2: Now do you see this? So I'm sure that's an accident, right,
Speaker 2: And then again we have another thumb print and if
Speaker 2: you put it like that in it it's just sits.
Speaker 1: I don't know the side that one on the other
Speaker 1: side of the phone.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got this guy and he looks real human, right,
Speaker 2: and he's holding something. It's interesting we've got half of
Speaker 2: the face there, you know, and uh, the thumb prints
Speaker 2: are you know, they're they're made to look like a print,
Speaker 2: but you know they're not a print. They're actually carved in.
Speaker 2: So now I've got a second one that has DNA
Speaker 2: on it as well. Okay, this is another one with
Speaker 2: a thumb print that if you put it it fits
Speaker 2: like this and it actually has like a little knobby
Speaker 2: thing and you can see we got kind of reclining
Speaker 2: looking over his shoulder with kind of like a snailly
Speaker 2: kind of looking thing. Right, and then this is just
Speaker 2: a kind of beautifull graphically, but I'm sure it means something,
Speaker 2: but it's part of this face. And then again like
Speaker 2: there's something there and if anybody's watching this, and then
Speaker 2: you know, you see it, just stop the video and
Speaker 2: look at it. Because there's so many angles on it,
Speaker 2: it's hard to pick the right one. So I got
Speaker 2: the best camera I could get so that you guys
Speaker 2: could stop it because we're if it's a dream, it's
Speaker 2: an impression, you know, we're all looking for for what
Speaker 2: what these things are telling us? And this one's got
Speaker 2: the gemstones, it's more of a cruder one. You can
Speaker 2: see this kind of a being with this kind of
Speaker 2: head and then okay the back is a little bit
Speaker 2: rough to see, but it has that spiral on it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is like just just deadly, like I have horrce
Speaker 2: kind of thing, you know. Yeah, yeah, and this is
Speaker 2: the beautiful purple little gemstone. And okay, give me, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm giving me a break.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah, totally Egyptian.
Speaker 2: But this is that doing the I mean, okay, so
Speaker 2: so if Egypt only goes back six thousand years, give
Speaker 2: me a break. This is like predates that by thousands
Speaker 2: and thousands of years on a totally different continent. Now,
Speaker 2: this is a was just recently found and it's got
Speaker 2: the hybrid kind of look to it, right, so each
Speaker 2: eye is different. The mouth is different and each side
Speaker 2: it has kind of an interesting split. But the interesting
Speaker 2: thing about this one, I can't really demonstrate it here,
Speaker 2: but there's a couple of these, but this this will
Speaker 2: probably show up. See it's very that that's light's just
Speaker 2: right up. And I've gotten another one that is that
Speaker 2: ceramic with.
Speaker 1: The two little white things in it? Like, is the
Speaker 1: brown part ceramic or stone?
Speaker 2: This feels to be a stone. I would probably have
Speaker 2: to ask Scott. But Scott's like, well, you can test
Speaker 2: it with mradic acid. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that, Scott.
Speaker 1: You know I need to come see these in person
Speaker 1: because I was a geologist too.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, look and listen, you were invited anytime. All right.
Speaker 1: That's very Egyptian looking in a weird way.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now we're going to move to god, I
Speaker 2: don't even know what. Okay, let's grab this guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I think we I don't know if I've shown
Speaker 2: you this one, but there's another thumbprint one that did
Speaker 2: I show you this one? And this has got the
Speaker 2: hybrid face right, Okay.
Speaker 1: So fascinating to me. I'm just like, if this is
Speaker 1: a hoax, it's the biggest hoax ever, Like somebody's just
Speaker 1: gone like way, like they're all stylized the same. You
Speaker 1: can tell that they're made by the same stylization.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I see, you're already catching on. Like that's
Speaker 2: why I say, when I look at them on eBay,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that's real. That's real. Like the scientists
Speaker 2: that are involved in this are not jokers, man, I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's a group of them too, and they're all
Speaker 2: completely freaked about it because because nobody's paying attention. I mean, this,
Speaker 2: this alone, along with everything else we know about, re
Speaker 2: writes the whole narrative of human history. Another another thumbprint
Speaker 2: where if you hold it, but the okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: There's some weird contortion stuff.
Speaker 2: Too interesting, And then the face is yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And what's sticking the ruby or whatever? That gemstone too,
Speaker 1: that is it almost like a porcelain or a glue
Speaker 1: or a mortar.
Speaker 2: Well, this is this one is very you can kind
Speaker 2: of tell it lights, it's super iridescent, and then around
Speaker 2: it is like a black substance that they said is
Speaker 2: it came from a type of a pine tree, kind
Speaker 2: of a sack, and that's what allows them to carbon
Speaker 2: date it because it's you know, got that organic quality
Speaker 2: to it, the organic source of it.
Speaker 1: So okay, this is those are the handheld ones, but then.
Speaker 2: You have biggers. Just trust me, I'll be happy if
Speaker 2: we get through them all today. Because all right, so
Speaker 2: this is this is another would be considered potato size
Speaker 2: one with some you know, just nice work. It's a
Speaker 2: little bit rougher on the rock. And then of course
Speaker 2: we've got again they get that spiral and then this is.
Speaker 2: This looks like a nasca lined or something, doesn't it
Speaker 2: as it really does?
Speaker 1: So and are there any that you've felt are You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this this one's not real well, because I know that
Speaker 1: there are supposedly replicas that people are making.
Speaker 2: The problem is is I know the people that find
Speaker 2: them in their dirt, and I see the picture of
Speaker 2: them in the dirt before I see them, So like,
Speaker 2: this one's crazy. I'm not even sure I can show
Speaker 2: you this because it's a little bit got some gravity. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to hold it together because it's held.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, that's like a clock.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's all stone. And then each of these
Speaker 2: turn and move and there's different writing on all the surfaces,
Speaker 2: and it's a little bit difficult to come across, but
Speaker 2: you can see it's all engraved with that proto language,
Speaker 2: and there are beings on it that don't look quite human.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can get right like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's nice, very almost centurion looking in a
Speaker 1: weird way.
Speaker 2: And then on this side there's a lot of that language.
Speaker 2: And then these there's a lot of the like holding
Speaker 2: looking like a helmet or a head or something on
Speaker 2: these things as you will see.
Speaker 1: And like little saucers.
Speaker 2: And what's interesting about this is on each level of this,
Speaker 2: these circles they turned each side, it has quadrants. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take these little time pieces off, see and it
Speaker 2: comes this comes out of here. It's a little pegg
Speaker 2: I'm going to take off each of these discs. There's
Speaker 2: carving on this side and then.
Speaker 1: Oh on both sides. Wow. So how do you even
Speaker 1: know which side goes down and which side goes up?
Speaker 2: You just have to go, okay, I think it goes
Speaker 2: like this, and wow.
Speaker 1: And what kind of stone do we think this is?
Speaker 1: Because it's got like an iridescence to it.
Speaker 2: This one is peculiar. I haven't asked that the geologists
Speaker 2: specifically about this one. Getting to be pretty friendly with
Speaker 2: Scott and he lives on it over, so maybe we'll
Speaker 2: get him over some time and he can go through
Speaker 2: this with me. But this is the next one I'm
Speaker 2: going to show you is don't have them all in
Speaker 2: one section, but there there's a bunch that were like this,
Speaker 2: and they're beautifully made. I mean there and and the
Speaker 2: and the markings on them are just so vivid, and
Speaker 2: this is like a constellation. And then they.
Speaker 1: Egyptian like where they keep their organs in the what
Speaker 1: you call those like the alabaster like cases they keep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see that this is a kind
Speaker 2: of translucent. There's a few of these that they were
Speaker 2: all kind of happened to be found at once, and
Speaker 2: I didn't put them on the same pot. Yes, Charlie, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's see. I'm just gonna grab one. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: This is a Yes, there's nobody out there, buddy, Nope, Nope,
Speaker 2: nobody's out there. Okay, pardon me, Hey, baby, come here,
Speaker 2: they come here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Charlie's dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Well Charlie wants to make an appearance. Say yes,
Speaker 2: say hello, yes, okay, hello Charlie, Okaya, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: Oh you're okay. I'm going to open the door. Just
Speaker 2: let him go. Look this he's he's these things that
Speaker 2: I don't see, so I have to let and chase
Speaker 2: them away. Yes, now we have Actually I've just been
Speaker 2: showing pictures that are coming in my sphere a couple
Speaker 2: of these that are going to be like thirty inches
Speaker 2: in diameter.
Speaker 1: They're huge at that little one you have, but it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know one of the guys that has
Speaker 2: been down finding them, he has literally like dozens of
Speaker 2: these saucer shapes. But you know, again, we've got like
Speaker 2: our little rider in there. And uh, even where he's
Speaker 2: at is very GMA trick. And you can see like
Speaker 2: the stones are put together. So I always excited when
Speaker 2: I see the gemstones inlaid and I see different stones
Speaker 2: put together because I know that they can be dated.
Speaker 2: But I'm not super worried about it because you just
Speaker 2: you handle a few of these and you just you know,
Speaker 2: you know what's what it is. This is one of
Speaker 2: the more unusual ones that.
Speaker 1: Oh it looks like a foot or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like four toes. It's like strange, right, and
Speaker 2: then you can see it's got ah, there's like a being.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a Mayan looking thing, right, like you
Speaker 2: see that person. And then okay, in the back we've
Speaker 2: got and then this is like a head it is
Speaker 2: holding this, and then these kind of disky kind of
Speaker 2: ship things.
Speaker 1: All right, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now this is there's a bunch that have been
Speaker 2: popping up that are like books, but they're not. They're
Speaker 2: like stone books, right, So this, oh they liked.
Speaker 1: Something would have connected them.
Speaker 2: This connects it like goes. It's hard to show you here,
Speaker 2: but it goes. It binds. Okay, so ione to put
Speaker 2: that there. But and then in the book, we've got this. Now,
Speaker 2: this is the one that I was telling you about.
Speaker 2: If I hit it with that light and go into
Speaker 2: the dark, it glows for ten minutes. That stone is gorgeous.
Speaker 2: It's this gorgeous blue. And when I have geologists walk
Speaker 2: by because they checked them for luminance or whatever, and
Speaker 2: they're just they're shocked by how not all of them glow,
Speaker 2: but the ones that do really glow. So again that
Speaker 2: proto language. And then we've got mh. This one's a
Speaker 2: little probably hard to see on camera, but just that
Speaker 2: it's you know, just basically that proto language. And then
Speaker 2: but I mean, you can't imagine the trouble you would
Speaker 2: go to to make that out of stone to bind this, right,
Speaker 2: and then the way when you hold these they're so
Speaker 2: smooth and finished in the and beveled. You know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of unbelievable. All right, he's gonna get crazy.
Speaker 1: They already are.
Speaker 2: So this one you don't have the rider for it,
Speaker 2: but it's another one of the of the saucer ones, right,
Speaker 2: and then if you can see some of the carving
Speaker 2: on it, we got like a little guy there on
Speaker 2: the top. And then again beautiful, we got another piece
Speaker 2: of stone that's been inlaid there. And then I start
Speaker 2: seeing these people like they have like similar insect looking
Speaker 2: somewhere like uh yeah, aban yeah, and we've got this
Speaker 2: sits over it. And then there's literally a bunch of
Speaker 2: minis that are coming from my inspection. They call minis,
Speaker 2: which is those little guys like the guys at ride inside.
Speaker 2: They make a lot Like my friend that has been
Speaker 2: down there found one. It was just like it was
Speaker 2: just barely bigger than a few grains of sand. It
Speaker 2: was completely carved. I'm like, whoa, Okay, let's see how
Speaker 2: crazy you do. What I want to go. We're going
Speaker 2: to start these crazy most crazy Okay, so this kind
Speaker 2: of fits in the hybrid. Let's start with the side
Speaker 2: hybrid area. We got two sides. The eyes are different, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then the ear.
Speaker 1: Coming on and there's different spaces this.
Speaker 2: Odd thing, right, and then like look at the he's
Speaker 2: trailing out. It's like a look almost like a sea
Speaker 2: creature or something.
Speaker 1: It's like a jackal and an octopus.
Speaker 2: Or something like yeah, and you think, okay, how do
Speaker 2: they even know about octopuses, Like if they if we
Speaker 2: take our timeline in our academic you know, Okay, and
Speaker 2: then look at this sun or whatever.
Speaker 1: It looks like octopus and it looks like a.
Speaker 2: And this is one of the more crude ones, Like
Speaker 2: it's it's got, it's well done and finished, and there's
Speaker 2: areas that are polished, but it isn't as smooth as
Speaker 2: some of the ones. Okay, and you.
Speaker 1: Think that's that's just like wear and tear from it
Speaker 1: just wasn't preserved very well in the ground.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, when they when they first find them
Speaker 2: and they there they have a saying they say they
Speaker 2: they reek right, and they have the smell of like
Speaker 2: mesquite charcoal or something. You know, It's like, all right,
Speaker 2: this is beautiful.
Speaker 1: One that's definitely got some more Mexican a Mayan head
Speaker 1: dressed kind of culture thing.
Speaker 2: And see the sun has these little holes, you know,
Speaker 2: like these are these are holes there wasn't even put
Speaker 2: in them. And uh then you know, of course this
Speaker 2: looks entirely human right here, right, and then we got
Speaker 2: this side of course we've and then holding that kind
Speaker 2: of spiral looking thing smell pet and then I'm looking,
Speaker 2: you know, always looking for legs, feet and the number
Speaker 2: of fingers and things like that. But also like the
Speaker 2: shape is interesting, it's beautiful. It's you know, I mean
Speaker 2: everything about this, the way it's laid out and this
Speaker 2: way this goes across it, and then these three coming up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely looks very like our cosmic origin story
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, now this one is very unique with sexon one
Speaker 2: will show you because it's one of the crude or
Speaker 2: unfinished ones. I've never seen one like this before that
Speaker 2: was unfinished and kind of crude. There's like this thing
Speaker 2: was they put went to a lot of effort to
Speaker 2: put this into it. And there's the sment is still
Speaker 2: on it, like it's not wiped off or finished. However
Speaker 2: they did it. And these these are drilled out for
Speaker 2: or however they did it. And they put these like
Speaker 2: pegs in like the little legs right, which interesting.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there was something else was stacked on
Speaker 1: top of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and it's got that it has it's very thin,
Speaker 2: it has a like how perfect that is? Like how
Speaker 2: do you do that? You know? Okay, now check this out?
Speaker 1: Ooh whoa.
Speaker 2: I mean we're getting quantum here. You know. It's like
Speaker 2: almost like portals and DNA. And then that ring is
Speaker 2: that like a saturn helping energy or prisoning or And
Speaker 2: then the way the stars are drawn in there. I've
Speaker 2: seen that in Egypt, you know, they just kind of
Speaker 2: draw stars like that. So this one.
Speaker 1: Crazy, that's like my favorite.
Speaker 2: Wait do you see this?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is one I've gotta be really well, let's see,
Speaker 3: I already drop one. This one has sentinels on it.
Speaker 3: Somebody just have sentinels. Let me see if I can
Speaker 3: bring it over. And one before I knock it all over,
Speaker 3: you put the guy back on there. That's kind of
Speaker 3: why I was thinking would be good to do this
Speaker 3: with the phone. All right, I think I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: hold town. All right, so this everything on this moves
Speaker 3: and turns. Okay, wow, oh no jumping. Okay, it's okay
Speaker 3: because they're stone and the hill on my keyboard. But
Speaker 3: all right, so I'm gonna just take the Okay, you
Speaker 3: saw it like in one piece.
Speaker 1: The individual pieces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they have these I have two pieces
Speaker 2: that have sentinels. I've got a couple more than I'm
Speaker 2: going to be seeing. You can see that they have
Speaker 2: like these distinct personalities like this one has like a
Speaker 2: face mask thing on, or this the two eyes and
Speaker 2: that size head. And then this guy's got a complete
Speaker 2: covering face mask thing. And then there's this guy right,
Speaker 2: and there's another one four sentinels on and they have
Speaker 2: the same personalities as these guys, which is strange. Right now,
Speaker 2: this thing was in the middle. This was the thing
Speaker 2: that that turns in the middle, and it's completely like like.
Speaker 1: The sun's face or like a big star looks look
Speaker 1: at volcanoes or something like if you go on the
Speaker 1: other way, like oh so yeah, the sun has like
Speaker 1: a face or.
Speaker 2: Something or yeah, it's got quadrants to like four stars
Speaker 2: or whatever, and that does look like a face, right,
Speaker 2: And then the back, of course they don't leave any surface,
Speaker 2: so the back has got uh.
Speaker 1: Oh, some weird alien being thing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so and you see this little this was
Speaker 2: put in here so that it would rotate on the
Speaker 2: on the bed right, I'm in the bed. It goes
Speaker 2: into this very look at that thing goes into that.
Speaker 2: And then let's see if we can get where you
Speaker 2: can see the Okay, there's I don't know if you
Speaker 2: can see there's two beings on either side of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then on the back of it, we've got this
Speaker 2: gorgeous Oh that's cool. And then the proto language all
Speaker 2: around that being, right, and then we have another we
Speaker 2: have an anc there, which I'm sure that's a coincidence. Right,
Speaker 2: let me.
Speaker 1: See the anc. It's like that, that's that's a total ank. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then we've got like a little ship here and
Speaker 2: then uh yeah, and it's interesting because you holding her
Speaker 2: hand on top of this and then her hand down
Speaker 2: towards the ankh so like like what the hell, like,
Speaker 2: what the hell? You know you've got these these ancient
Speaker 2: cross looking uh Night's templar.
Speaker 4: You know they're finding those in the bottom of Lake
Speaker 4: van too Verry Egyptian. Kay, so we haven't gotten crazy yet,
Speaker 4: by the way, Oh no, no, because so literally we have.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me start, let me start smaller, all right.
Speaker 2: So this is some more of the pim saucer like guys, right,
Speaker 2: And this is like a little bit cruider of a
Speaker 2: stone and symbology on it. And then this is another
Speaker 2: one of those kind of like coaster looking guys, but
Speaker 2: it has a whole all the way through it, I mean,
Speaker 2: and look how perfect that's made. And then this again
Speaker 2: we got a spiral you know that means something, right,
Speaker 2: Like what does that mean? Okay, Now this.
Speaker 1: One just.
Speaker 2: Was found, it's been it's completely like like put together
Speaker 2: like these pieces. And then what's crazy is in the
Speaker 2: back of it. It's got like this saucer over this
Speaker 2: guy reclining holding like it an thing. And so the
Speaker 2: guy that reason says that those are like those potato
Speaker 2: things that that they're showing us.
Speaker 1: Oh right, Like so he's holding one of the thumb
Speaker 1: print stones.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Okay, so that looks very Mian to me or something, right,
Speaker 2: And then what's it like that beard?
Speaker 1: Whoa, that's weird. It's like like a beard stair set
Speaker 1: thing and it's weird that has the thing coming out
Speaker 1: of its.
Speaker 2: Head like you know, is that like uh so many things.
Speaker 2: It's like your spirit guide, your possession is that you know?
Speaker 2: Is it hybridizing it that? What is that on a triangle?
Speaker 1: So maybe it's the monad and the overstail that's weird.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that spiral at the top. That's cool.
Speaker 1: And then that's like a little ticle bending his head
Speaker 1: down or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like it's gotta be like glass or something,
Speaker 2: you know. And then okay, and then I mean this
Speaker 2: is like very stylized. And then it's just and you
Speaker 2: got you know, look at the posture, the legs, the
Speaker 2: U is that the helmet and he's holding on to
Speaker 2: that and okay, and I can't they're completely smooth. They're
Speaker 2: so beautiful their surface.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: And it's like so like perfect and beautiful and smooth,
Speaker 2: you know, and look at it.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So for everybody out there that says they're fake,
Speaker 2: yeah they're fake. Yeah, just go away.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can think they're fake. That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and check this. Ok there's a lot of
Speaker 2: this genie kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a genie in a bottle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's holding and then it's got this
Speaker 2: other being here, and then I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like that thing and the other one where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another one that was similar to that. I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's says.
Speaker 2: I just wish you could feel the way it feels.
Speaker 2: It's like there's a heavy yeah, Okay, check out this chick.
Speaker 1: Whoa Yeah, that's like a weird oh and I see
Speaker 1: the boob. At first, I was like, how do you
Speaker 1: know it's a chick?
Speaker 2: Well, my plumber is completely insane. It's like that's a
Speaker 2: chick man, you know. Okay, and then like like look
Speaker 2: at them. It's like a platypus face or something, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a weird duck face. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2: And again like beautiful and just perfect and smooth and
Speaker 2: that the lines on this right, Okay, all right, this
Speaker 2: is this is one of the craziest ones I have.
Speaker 1: It's like, is she birthing him or is someone kicking him? There?
Speaker 2: It looks like that, doesn't it. I mean and the
Speaker 2: beat it's got but it's coming. It's got that genie
Speaker 2: look to it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also yeah, it's also gone a femeral.
Speaker 2: And then the eye of horse right like unmistakable eye
Speaker 2: horse right over top of.
Speaker 1: It, and the squatterman position.
Speaker 2: And like, okay, if you're skilled enough to do this,
Speaker 2: you're not making it by mistake to look like that.
Speaker 2: And then we've got.
Speaker 1: Oh see, that looks totally like like a spirit body.
Speaker 2: Or like a you know. And then again we had
Speaker 2: a spiral right over at the top, and then we
Speaker 2: have this little symbol at the bottom.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, that's that's interesting. How they it's like a
Speaker 1: conglomerate or like you know, a mixed marble stone that
Speaker 1: they used for the jackal. That's really pretty.
Speaker 2: You can tell that nishes on it, right, yeah, and
Speaker 2: the uh and then the trouble to go to you know,
Speaker 2: put the stones here, and then this proto language, you know,
Speaker 2: and then of course there's always every surface you've got.
Speaker 1: Well, that's very that's very like how the Egyptians are
Speaker 1: always feeding, you know, on their higher glyphs. But that's
Speaker 1: super weir. That's like a that looks like a space.
Speaker 2: Helmet and look at this, it's got like little wings
Speaker 2: or something, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay with that, Okay, this is just like hurting
Speaker 1: my brain because I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 2: So this is what blew my mind is when I
Speaker 2: saw this one, it was like like unmistakable onc right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's got I have horse over top of it,
Speaker 2: and then this other being and then a mummy and
Speaker 2: it's in a pyramid.
Speaker 1: Ship You've pally got it.
Speaker 2: A mummy on a pyramid, it's like, and then the
Speaker 2: proto language all around it, so that so far I've
Speaker 2: seen two of them with the mummies on them. And
Speaker 2: then this chick you know, she's like got this like
Speaker 2: staff with a head on it that doesn't look quite right,
Speaker 2: you know, and then we got the proto language around it.
Speaker 2: Now okay, so kind of rushed through it. So go.
Speaker 2: You know, Atlantis, right, is supposed.
Speaker 5: To have parraculum, and in Egypt, Muhammad it showed me
Speaker 5: where there was a formula on the wall, but it
Speaker 5: would have been damaged, so they didn't have the whole
Speaker 5: formula for raculum.
Speaker 2: Is how you said, you know, the Atlantis gold and
Speaker 2: for years they said it was a myth well they
Speaker 2: didn't Atlantis a myth too, and then they found some
Speaker 2: on a Phoenician ship or something or whatever. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I might have someone in my hand. Right here, this
Speaker 2: is this is nickname. They call him a mask. They
Speaker 2: go like this right so you can see the shiny
Speaker 2: This is a ratulum here, and this is it here.
Speaker 2: And I've had it read with a meter, you know,
Speaker 2: like when you go to gold shops, and it gave
Speaker 2: the elements and it's got the it has the most
Speaker 2: of gold, but it has about twelve other things in
Speaker 2: it as well. And you can see that it's being symbolic.
Speaker 2: It's like that being. It's like being handed, like it's
Speaker 2: levitating up and going to it.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, and like ones in like solid form and
Speaker 1: the other ones like etherically like just etched, you know.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: And then behind this being is another one kind of
Speaker 2: like floating on something, okay, And then there's like the constellations,
Speaker 2: like the dots and things. Now, I've just been in
Speaker 2: a big catfight with people over the Gospard glyphs, and
Speaker 2: so I'll tell you something about this one after we
Speaker 2: we just look over some thing, as I noticed because
Speaker 2: of that. But this is another ratulment right there that
Speaker 2: she's handing, and she's got like behind her, you know,
Speaker 2: three other beings and the kind of bird very avian looking,
Speaker 2: and then the being that they're handing it to is
Speaker 2: kind of looks like something out of Star Wars, you.
Speaker 1: Know that, Yes, but it was.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing, like this finish on these is perfect, right,
Speaker 2: but all these little puckers here. Yeah, So that reminds
Speaker 2: me of a spot at the Gosford Glyphs that they
Speaker 2: haven't identified yet, but they call it a master star map.
Speaker 2: And I now there are constellations like you can see
Speaker 2: that they're marked on here, like the lines between them. Uh,
Speaker 2: but I just after I had seen that, because this
Speaker 2: has been I'd seen this before in the background, it
Speaker 2: didn't really register that it could be, you know, actually
Speaker 2: telling us something. So anyway, now so that we kind
Speaker 2: of raced through them all. But that that's that's most
Speaker 2: all of them. There's a hue that aren't here, like
Speaker 2: I do not have the access after the handbag. There
Speaker 2: is a handbag and it does not have anything human
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 1: So and then you said, there's like there's ones that
Speaker 1: are as big as like a car hood or a table.
Speaker 2: I just there's one in Kingman, Arizona waiting for me
Speaker 2: to see it. That is not just a table. It's
Speaker 2: like they put a tape measure on. It's like twelve
Speaker 2: feet long and it's got pieces that go into it.
Speaker 1: Right, oh, interesting, okay.
Speaker 2: And they were like, hey, well, you know, we'll ship
Speaker 2: it you can see and I'm like, don't ship it,
Speaker 2: just leave it there. I will come and see it
Speaker 2: because these things oh okay, two more.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 2: Now you can see that in these segments there's polished
Speaker 2: and then there's rough, right, yeah. So they went to
Speaker 2: trouble to do that for some reason, to change the texture,
Speaker 2: and it's like so unusual, kind of like almost mpiece
Speaker 2: or something, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And is this turquoise?
Speaker 2: Is that I believe that, I mean it looks like
Speaker 2: turquoise that this doesn't aridesk, but the other gemstones in it,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It would be something that Scott could
Speaker 2: probably tell me. And then you can see the mummy
Speaker 2: another mummy, yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's they're taking its spirit out or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, you are just yes, perfect, yes. And then this
Speaker 2: is the only one I saw kind of like like
Speaker 2: asteroidy kind of things floating above it, you know, and uh,
Speaker 2: unless they were trying to the thing is, I don't
Speaker 2: think there anything was they drew what they saw because
Speaker 2: it's so well done, you know, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think that this is like any kind of like fever dream. Right,
Speaker 2: all right, another one, let.
Speaker 6: Me see if something to do. Take him a two piece.
Speaker 6: This one's very unusual.
Speaker 2: Okay. He's big, he's a big guy, and he's full sculpture,
Speaker 2: and he's holding this which has the proto language and
Speaker 2: this is like a marble, right, and he holds it
Speaker 2: like this, and he's got this thing to hold that
Speaker 2: in place, like an offering, and he's got that face,
Speaker 2: like the face mask guy that I was showing you
Speaker 2: the sense to. Yeah, and then he's he's kind of
Speaker 2: a cruder stone. I was really weirding. And it's the
Speaker 2: if you the clothing is like drawn on, it's almost
Speaker 2: like very kind of Mayan looking clothing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay. And then what's on his ears is
Speaker 1: those stones.
Speaker 2: It's like been a different kind of stone has been
Speaker 2: put in there, and what's just some trouble for that, right,
Speaker 2: and then they want some trouble for this. But you're
Speaker 2: just a he's cool. Yeah, Okay, I think that's all
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Have you I feel like you could literally take a
Speaker 1: picture of every single one of those glyphs and then
Speaker 1: get the AI to like write you a language or
Speaker 1: to like start seeing where the where the same glyphs
Speaker 1: are represented twice or.
Speaker 2: Well between like me and the person that is downstate,
Speaker 2: and then there's a some of the people that are
Speaker 2: in Mexico, and then some of the other well, you know,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen like Scott Walter's collection or Greg Braden's
Speaker 2: collection or whatever, but so they have.
Speaker 1: These two.
Speaker 2: Possibly. Okay, here's the thing is, they don't acknowledge them
Speaker 2: as being artifacts, right, but they are, and they are
Speaker 2: really important to all of humanity. You know. They should
Speaker 2: not be sitting in my house. You know, they should
Speaker 2: be in a museum. People should be studying them. But
Speaker 2: you can't trust them because they're not treated with any respect.
Speaker 2: And as I have learned, and our mutual acquaintance friend
Speaker 2: Jimmy has learned, just like that, there's no energy for
Speaker 2: really getting to the bottom of what's going on in
Speaker 2: the ancient world, you know, and there.
Speaker 1: Is like some sort of systematic cover up for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: and I don't understand it, but it's there, and like
Speaker 1: we can go on. We've gone on to many different
Speaker 1: ways in which we could prove it's there, but it's there.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so it's like, you know, I've dealt like
Speaker 1: this same subject matter has come up before. It's like
Speaker 1: I know somebody who has a ruined site on their
Speaker 1: land that they've like excavated and they don't want to
Speaker 1: make it into the museum or have the major museums
Speaker 1: come because it's like like there's just horror stories of
Speaker 1: what actually ends up happening when any kind of official
Speaker 1: narrative gets involved.
Speaker 2: So I was on the island of Delos in Greece,
Speaker 2: and you always talk to the local people and and
Speaker 2: then you find the people that don't really want to
Speaker 2: talk to you, and you kind of you know, confounding
Speaker 2: of tongues is not working anymore because I have Google Translate,
Speaker 2: you know. So what I'm saying is like I learned
Speaker 2: this from Freddy Silva, because you know, he hangs around
Speaker 2: long enough where you get to you know, the baby's born,
Speaker 2: and the gramma dies and you're you're dancing at the
Speaker 2: wedding and you get to know people and and you
Speaker 2: find out what you know, The knowledge is going back.
Speaker 2: So in Greece, on the island of Delos, which has
Speaker 2: crazy ruins, like it was just this abundance of we
Speaker 2: have this, you know, experts whole different fields, and so
Speaker 2: many people had gone through Greece, Like there's better shit
Speaker 2: from Greece and the Louver and in the British Museum
Speaker 2: in Turkey than there is in Greece because it's has
Speaker 2: been raised over so many times. But you're going through
Speaker 2: these ruins and it's incredible. You know that you've got
Speaker 2: the mosaics and oh you know the key things in
Speaker 2: the in this between stones they look like they look
Speaker 2: like in the Findament, every part. Yeah, so I'm talking
Speaker 2: to famous guy. I can't tell you his name at
Speaker 2: the moment, but and he said, and I they This
Speaker 2: is what got me really upset with archaeologists was I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, what is archaeology? Is a degree? So
Speaker 2: I start looking it up and it's really loose. It's
Speaker 2: like basically from humanities. So it's like, oh, well this
Speaker 2: they married this tribe and then they did this, and
Speaker 2: then they had that war, and it's like all the
Speaker 2: stories right, it's not sciences, it's not physics, it's not geometry,
Speaker 2: it's not any of those things. And so but whenever
Speaker 2: something kind of overlaps with it, they just they do
Speaker 2: not want you know, you're not an archaeologist, right, so, and.
Speaker 1: It's compartmentalized to a site specific thing. They don't seem
Speaker 1: to do a lot of global, broader macro picture of
Speaker 1: what's going on. Then there's not a lot of that,
Speaker 1: which is weird.
Speaker 2: Well, so generally this is kind of like my book
Speaker 2: what happened was I went to enough places, I saw
Speaker 2: enough things, I talked to enough people, I'm going, what
Speaker 2: is going on here? Like this is it's ridiculous. I mean,
Speaker 2: sitting right here in my room is the proof of
Speaker 2: you know, incredible advanced civilization from you know, twenty thousand
Speaker 2: years ago on this continent connecting to Egypt right right here.
Speaker 2: We just saw it. Okay, and it's all like scientific
Speaker 2: we can prove it, right, and we can go down. Well,
Speaker 2: the problem all my friends that are finding these are going, dude,
Speaker 2: we know you could find them because the only certain
Speaker 2: people could find them. They're like, well you should come.
Speaker 2: But it's okay, so.
Speaker 1: Explain that to me, like you're saying only so like,
Speaker 1: because I know Sean Bond is finding artifacts and he's
Speaker 1: and he has claimed that it has to do with consciousness.
Speaker 1: You have to be of a certain frequency for them
Speaker 1: to reveal themselves to you.
Speaker 2: So this is what they tell me as well. And
Speaker 2: uh there there's like I also know from Trevor Grossi
Speaker 2: that William Brown his wife was responsible for every major
Speaker 2: find that he made because she could sense it with
Speaker 2: dowsing rods, right, And it's similar down there. The thing
Speaker 2: is is that if you show up down there and
Speaker 2: you're a stranger, it's a small enough area completely controlled
Speaker 2: by drug cartels. And right now, you know, we're things
Speaker 2: are a little tense with the cartels because it's just
Speaker 2: going to take one little thing and we're going to
Speaker 2: have you know, Trump's been talking talking about sending troops down,
Speaker 2: so things are I did not want to be the
Speaker 2: guy that gets captured by the cartels start the war
Speaker 2: with the cartels with the United States, you know, I
Speaker 2: mean that's what's going on right now. It's like they've
Speaker 2: they've had it. You know, they don't want organized crime
Speaker 2: like running that huge amount of that economy there and
Speaker 2: those guys. You show up down there, and my friend
Speaker 2: that this is called Anthony, said that, you know, jeep
Speaker 2: pulls up with a guy on machine gun in the
Speaker 2: back and they're checking you out, you know, and they
Speaker 2: just soon look at you as murder you. And then
Speaker 2: the person I can't talk about has like a drone
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars drone that does ground penetrating radar.
Speaker 2: He could do a pattern, he could find those underground
Speaker 2: temples and caves that were dynamited, you know. And but
Speaker 2: God help you if you have a drone in that
Speaker 2: area and the cartels find out, you know, you're not
Speaker 2: going to probably survive. So it seems like a lot
Speaker 2: of these ancient spots are in really tricky areas. There's
Speaker 2: a couple I know about from my Knight's Templar Peals
Speaker 2: that are if I just set it to you and public,
Speaker 2: they would start a war, you know. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: how sensitive these things are. So let's just rewind here
Speaker 2: that my book. What happened was is I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what's going on? And so I was standing with Hopefully
Speaker 2: some day I can say his name because I owed
Speaker 2: this book to him, But I by the way this book.
Speaker 2: I am not smart enough to have written this book.
Speaker 2: These artifacts wrote this book, because.
Speaker 1: Okay, you wrote, he just wrote a book, and then
Speaker 1: you're you're you're done with the book, but you're now
Speaker 1: in the process of publishing it, okay. And would you
Speaker 1: say that you channeled it from the artifacts?
Speaker 2: It was I just told him they could tell me stuff, right,
Speaker 2: And then the electronic thing wasn't working out. I mean,
Speaker 2: things would happen like I would wrap one up in
Speaker 2: a cloth and put it in my pocket, go out
Speaker 2: to dinner with my brothers and their kids and their girlfriends, whatever,
Speaker 2: and we'd sit down at the table and the light
Speaker 2: of the table start blinking and the light's going on,
Speaker 2: and I'm going, no, that's not that's not what's happening, okay,
Speaker 2: And I would just say just wait, please, at least
Speaker 2: till we're done eating, and the light would stop blinking
Speaker 2: and they'd all look at me. I'm going, I'll explain later, okay.
Speaker 2: So then I would take it out, I would show
Speaker 2: it to everybody. I would talk to them about it,
Speaker 2: and then the last person would take a bite and
Speaker 2: the light would start again, and you know, my brother's
Speaker 2: girlfriend would go, I think I'm gonna have a seizure.
Speaker 2: Could you tell it to stop? I'm like, okay, that
Speaker 2: was the figure of speech. Please just don't. None of
Speaker 2: us knows Sos or morse Quarde or whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: that is. Okay, so just please stop. And it stopped.
Speaker 2: I mean, the super cooperative like I've had just like
Speaker 2: that kind of quick kind of interactions with them, and
Speaker 2: I think, so, what's what I've noticed? This came to me.
Speaker 2: I'm with so I wish I could tell you because
Speaker 2: this is the sweetest, most brilliant person. But he's got
Speaker 2: some papers coming out that are going to change the world.
Speaker 2: And it's for for everybody's good that we don't talk
Speaker 2: about who he is. But ah, I said, you know
Speaker 2: right now, like everything, it has to fit on this line.
Speaker 2: You know. It's it's this mainstream. It's been and it's
Speaker 2: been around for a thousands, it's been around for as
Speaker 2: long civilization has been here. It's like it has to be.
Speaker 2: If it's not doesn't fit there, it's an anomaly, it's pseudoscience.
Speaker 2: It's wrong. But we all know things that we were
Speaker 2: told that we're wrong, that we not know are right.
Speaker 2: We all know things that were you know right that
Speaker 2: we're now we know we're wrong. This not knowledge is dynamic.
Speaker 2: It doesn't fit on that line. And so what happens
Speaker 2: with the stuff that's you know, been disregarded is it
Speaker 2: gets pushed away. People are embarrassed of it. Oh it's wrong,
Speaker 2: it's a fraud, you know, it gets it gets hidden.
Speaker 2: And what I realized was is that it's sastrely from this.
Speaker 2: This person was talking about how everything imprints on space time.
Speaker 2: It's all information and it's happening all the time, and
Speaker 2: we are all expressions of this main divine force, and
Speaker 2: we're learning about ourselves, and we're all creating these lines.
Speaker 2: And it gets into things like, okay, there'll be some
Speaker 2: left turns here. But you've heard the story about the
Speaker 2: little girl that tragically was murdered and then the parents
Speaker 2: donated to her organs and the little girl who got
Speaker 2: a heart transplant from her remembered enough details of the
Speaker 2: murder they convicted the murderer. There's a couple of other
Speaker 2: you can look at that one up. It's actually in
Speaker 2: the mainstream. You can find that they took a bunch
Speaker 2: of neurons from the brain, and neurons are just connected connections.
Speaker 2: They're not processors. And they grew them in a pre
Speaker 2: Petri dish and then they put electrodes all the way
Speaker 2: around the Petri dish and they hooked it up to
Speaker 2: a game of pong. I don't know if you know
Speaker 2: remember pong? Right, These neurons like learned to play pong,
Speaker 2: and there's video of them. They play it better than
Speaker 2: I do, right, And they don't have a processor. They're
Speaker 2: pulling from you know, yeah, this or space time because
Speaker 2: they don't have a way of thinking, and they sat
Speaker 2: they learned how to do this, and there's like example
Speaker 2: after example example of this. We are not in this
Speaker 2: head were people that Okay, list, I'm sure if you're
Speaker 2: watching your channel, you'll accept me saying this, but at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: If they've made it through this point, you can get
Speaker 1: it as you want, because I mean, I'm basically just
Speaker 1: saying like they may be like data like microchips of
Speaker 1: the Acostia record. You know.
Speaker 2: So my friend so I ended up getting a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of friends in this that are MK Ultra Survivor's
Speaker 2: secret space program guys whatever, and they're I love them all,
Speaker 2: but they're a mess because they're morphogenic fields are just
Speaker 2: they've they've erased memories on them. They've done things to
Speaker 2: them that are just harmful as a being to that
Speaker 2: that they're damaged. And after about eleven years or so,
Speaker 2: no matter what they've done, that memory starts coming back,
Speaker 2: and you know, they'll be in a store and see
Speaker 2: somebody else go wait.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: And so the the the whole the way that they
Speaker 2: got people to cooperate and go along with it to say, well,
Speaker 2: they're not going to remember. You know, we could do
Speaker 2: these horrible things to them because they're not going to
Speaker 2: remember any of it anyway. Right, But that's not true
Speaker 2: because we are not here, we're out there.
Speaker 1: And it comes back localized.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So imagine now we've got all these cultures
Speaker 2: that mummified, We've got pictures of it here. Right now.
Speaker 2: We know that DNA adapts. We were told that when
Speaker 2: I was kid, they told us that it was static,
Speaker 2: and now we know that it will adapt and change,
Speaker 2: and and it has an incredible amount of data. It's
Speaker 2: like from terra flops of datas in DNA. Right, So
Speaker 2: you've got these mummies that are basically their DNA is
Speaker 2: intact and they're an antenna to the space time of
Speaker 2: the memory of that being. And you know in the
Speaker 2: past they were like grinding them up for health concoctions
Speaker 2: and they were learning them. Yeah, yeah, and so but
Speaker 2: we have all these cultures that took the time. And
Speaker 2: what hit me was when I was in Easter Island
Speaker 2: and I came back and I went to the big
Speaker 2: museum in Chile, Santiago, and there were mummies there and
Speaker 2: they were like not like they're basically like pancakes of mummies,
Speaker 2: Like they just basically had hair and sculp. I mean,
Speaker 2: they had their own way of doing it, but there
Speaker 2: was DNA that could be harvested from that. Right, So
Speaker 2: we potentially have this huge, you know, compendium of knowledge
Speaker 2: going back in time from all of these mummies that
Speaker 2: are everywhere, along with everything else has been left for
Speaker 2: us as well, like these things. So let's get back
Speaker 2: to this. So basically, since at least the beginning of civilization,
Speaker 2: if you're a chief and you're a pulpe, you're uh,
Speaker 2: you know, a king, it benefits you to have people
Speaker 2: thinking along your mainstream, right because if they go outside
Speaker 2: of this, they get crazy ideas and your status quote
Speaker 2: doesn't hold very well. But it's a control system. And
Speaker 2: it's basically the way that we've been talking about here
Speaker 2: is like why why does nobody talk about this Why?
Speaker 2: And it's enforced. It's enforced through academics. And my favorite
Speaker 2: people are autodidacts, which are the people that learn things
Speaker 2: on themselves without going through the system. You know. Like
Speaker 2: I was trying to make some peace between Jay, you know,
Speaker 2: from Project Unity and Ashton Forbes because they gotten this
Speaker 2: this thing online and you know, and Ashton will go
Speaker 2: right to the gamer like, you know, insults and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like and and Jay was like, I just want
Speaker 2: to punch him on the nose. I'm like, dude, you
Speaker 2: have Project Unity, right, you know, I said. And He's like, well,
Speaker 2: stuff has all been debunked. It's thick. I said, no,
Speaker 2: it's not. I said, I'd been doing digital you know,
Speaker 2: video for years. I said, yeah, stock assets were put
Speaker 2: on it before it came out in order to make
Speaker 2: it debunkable. But it's not. His stuff is real. And
Speaker 2: what's really good is he's got people talking about physics
Speaker 2: and talking about the advance and covered up physics you
Speaker 2: know that we've had for a hundred years as we
Speaker 2: haven't allowed to have and then just I don't know,
Speaker 2: I just did a video on Epstein and Harvard. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw any of that, but he's
Speaker 2: basically was infiltrated. He had Jeffrey's office, he gave money
Speaker 2: to programs, he had you know, Stephen Hawking to his island,
Speaker 2: like every major physicist. They basically were compromising and they
Speaker 2: have destroyed Physics is not right. Physics is like.
Speaker 1: There's the there is the sexual honey pot moussaud element,
Speaker 1: but then there's a deeper element because even that what's
Speaker 1: her name, Jasey Max, Well, it's like they call her
Speaker 1: like Janet Atlantis, and like she has a submarine driver
Speaker 1: and they were going down to like them any road
Speaker 1: and seeing stuff like they're there, they were messing with.
Speaker 1: There's an Atlantis element to the Epstein story that no
Speaker 1: one's talking about too, Like there's like that that what's
Speaker 1: his name?
Speaker 2: Uh, you're right, you're right. This is right where I
Speaker 2: was going with. You know, you are my best friend
Speaker 2: that never lived next door. You know, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: like I sit with you in a room or on zoom,
Speaker 2: and we're like immediately locked into the same channels. I
Speaker 2: don't know how that happens, but I do know how
Speaker 2: that happens. But uh, yes, So I think these control
Speaker 2: systems call pre cataclysmic, and I think that it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily all humans involved. It's a very complicated universe. Right now,
Speaker 2: I have a lot of contact with multiple friends that
Speaker 2: know the same people that aren't from here, and there's
Speaker 2: a possibility that we might be introducing one of the
Speaker 2: first people that are not from here, maybe sometime in October,
Speaker 2: a public event where everything's very quiet yet And because
Speaker 2: you think humanity is complicated, you mix up this other
Speaker 2: stuff and it gets really complicated, right, and the other
Speaker 2: thing is okay, metaphor here for you. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're olding to remember DOS computers, it was
Speaker 2: just like, hey, you have to type the codes in.
Speaker 2: You got dots, right, And then we got Windows three
Speaker 2: point one, and it was kind of like, oh, you
Speaker 2: can click and you can just do a file and
Speaker 2: then you can type it. And then we got you know,
Speaker 2: it evolved until we had to plug it into a
Speaker 2: phone line, and then we had to get a a virus.
Speaker 2: We had to get an anti virus, you know, and
Speaker 2: then we got to Windows like XP or whatever. Then
Speaker 2: we got a different browser, and then we had to
Speaker 2: get an anti malware right. And then we got to
Speaker 2: Windows eleven, we got on the internet, we had to
Speaker 2: get like a firewall, right, So there was an evolution
Speaker 2: and then protections. Right. So I happened to be friends
Speaker 2: with a guy who can't be public about this because
Speaker 2: he's brilliant and he has other things, but he's basically
Speaker 2: identified the part of the human genome where we were
Speaker 2: artificially spliced to double our neural capacity. It's completely fault fake.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like just yeah, we're GMO. We're
Speaker 2: completely GMO. And you know, he can't be public because
Speaker 2: if he released that, everybody else could see that was
Speaker 2: true as well. Now that's that's one of a hundred
Speaker 2: smoking guns of that. I mean, you look, okay, this dog, right, Charlie,
Speaker 2: all right, plants outside, the bugs on the wall, the
Speaker 2: fish in the sea. Every other creature on Earth besides
Speaker 2: humans has six to twelve genetic defects. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of look at the standard thing, you know, except for octopuses.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what the hell's going on the octopus. This
Speaker 2: is they don't match up for anything, right, but humans
Speaker 2: have close to six thousand. They keep finding more genety defects.
Speaker 2: So how does that happen from one species on the earth.
Speaker 2: I mean you could come up like, well, our maker
Speaker 2: was a little sloppy, or maybe we were artificially downgraded,
Speaker 2: like in all the stories that say these guys are
Speaker 2: gonna these monkeys are gonna be trouble. You know, we
Speaker 2: gotta gotta turn them down a little bit. So there's
Speaker 2: a hidden element behind things, and like, I uh, and
Speaker 2: it's not all we have been put under stress. We
Speaker 2: have been put in a situation where there's lack and
Speaker 2: the missing element of physics is basically consciousness. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people are coming up with this, but I
Speaker 2: know the paper's coming up that actually are will scientifically,
Speaker 2: mathematically even prove this right. So imagine you're controlling media,
Speaker 2: you're controlling schools, you're controlling academia, you're controlling medicine, and
Speaker 2: you've got your line and if you go outside of that,
Speaker 2: you lose your license, you're fired, you don't of a job,
Speaker 2: you're crazy or whatever. Right, So it's a control system
Speaker 2: to keep us from understanding our own power. You if
Speaker 2: you raise a child like, Okay, I'll get crazy. So
Speaker 2: but my friends that have been in the secret programs,
Speaker 2: they said, a human being who has been trained psionically
Speaker 2: like to use their other abilities, their intuition and other abilities.
Speaker 2: There are other races of intelligent beings that are from
Speaker 2: the time they're born or hatched or come out of
Speaker 2: a bottle, are trained at this. But one human that
Speaker 2: they said can like can knock back twelve drac or reptilians,
Speaker 2: you know, and those are those are that's not a joke.
Speaker 2: Those things are nasty. There's some good ones, but they
Speaker 2: can walk into a room and make you just have
Speaker 2: so much fear you're wet your pants. And part of
Speaker 2: my book talks about it starts off with you don't
Speaker 2: realize our bias. We are blind. We look at a beach,
Speaker 2: as far as you can see that beautiful beach, right,
Speaker 2: you take one grain of sand off that that's literally
Speaker 2: equivalent to what we're perceiving. And we think we know
Speaker 2: what's going on. But we know we can use like
Speaker 2: X ray or ultrasound or different technologies to kind of
Speaker 2: branch it out. Yet everybody walking around trying to keep
Speaker 2: you know, the lights on on their house and pay
Speaker 2: their bills or whatever, has no idea what's right in
Speaker 2: the same dimension with them. You know, in the Vietnam
Speaker 2: War they had those very first version of the night
Speaker 2: vision goggles that were read. I think we talked about this.
Speaker 2: You know, get this helicopter dude, and he's like, they're
Speaker 2: flying at night, and he's looking and he looks out
Speaker 2: and he sees like this gargoyle flying with wings thangs,
Speaker 2: it looks and somehow when you see them, they can
Speaker 2: see you. It saw him and snarls at them, and
Speaker 2: he like firing machine gun, and everybody else in the
Speaker 2: helicopters one, what the hell are you doing? And they
Speaker 2: had they had to pull all of those glad that
Speaker 2: you cannot get a pair of them. The technology, you
Speaker 2: can't find anything odd about them. But basically you're just
Speaker 2: seeing into that other vibration, that dimensioned that's right next
Speaker 2: to us.
Speaker 1: So and I think, like I think what we're being
Speaker 1: fed about NASA and the way that they describe space
Speaker 1: to us and the light years away and all these
Speaker 1: aliens from out other planets and stuff, I think that's
Speaker 1: all a distraction from I think we're in a frequency
Speaker 1: pancaked timeline war and I think a lot of we
Speaker 1: have interdimensional beings and some of them and we're creating.
Speaker 1: I think the Internet in general at large and or
Speaker 1: all AI is a portal to other frequencies. And I
Speaker 1: think we're also like we're dealing with all time is
Speaker 1: one too, Like we have this like thinking like okay,
Speaker 1: are like time isn't as linear as we think, Like
Speaker 1: it's spirals and changes and it's malleable. It's not as
Speaker 1: set in stone as we also have been led to believe.
Speaker 1: So we have all these really crazy, weird limitations and
Speaker 1: like when I've been trying to figure out is like
Speaker 1: what I can say, I know the one little grain
Speaker 1: of sand that I do know am on my beach
Speaker 1: is that it's the amount of forgetting we have as
Speaker 1: an incarnated soul is not natural, Like we have forgotten
Speaker 1: to a level that's manipulated. It's like we're in some
Speaker 1: sort of like we have to get our remembering back.
Speaker 1: Like that's what a whole, big part of this is.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm thinking, like your artifacts and things
Speaker 1: like this are a.
Speaker 2: Way to.
Speaker 1: Mend what if you want to call it the Acasia
Speaker 1: record or vela forgetting or something like that. I see
Speaker 1: little lights at the end of the tunnel in that element,
Speaker 1: and and I see that coming back a lot. But
Speaker 1: that's our The biggest issue, if you want to call it,
Speaker 1: that we have going on, is we have forgotten more
Speaker 1: than is beneficial for our experience here.
Speaker 2: You are, so my tribe, I'm okay. So I mean, basically,
Speaker 2: to simplify that, there's some bullshit going on, you know,
Speaker 2: and the first time, which might be in a few weeks,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting with somebody from Federation, I'm going to be like, really,
Speaker 2: you know, let us go through this for this long,
Speaker 2: you know. And I mean the other thing is okay.
Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing from a lot of different sources
Speaker 2: is that the bullshit that was going on here about
Speaker 2: two hundred years from now started affecting them out there.
Speaker 2: So that's when they got serious and they started going
Speaker 2: back and into our timeline and salting things in and
Speaker 2: doing things to change it and help fix it. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what it took. You had to let
Speaker 2: us go through all of this crap before you did that,
Speaker 2: you know, because it had to. It seems very selfish
Speaker 2: to me, right because I get Some of the really
Speaker 2: most brilliant people I know privately will tell me about
Speaker 2: their interactions with these other beings, you know, and they
Speaker 2: they won't even hear me talking about, well what about
Speaker 2: this bad thing or that bad thing, and to go, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, if they wanted to wipe us out, and
Speaker 2: they're so high okay, and I'm thinking windows three point one, right.
Speaker 2: You know, you can have a valiant thor comes into
Speaker 2: the room and you feel like he's perfectly you know,
Speaker 2: a great guy. Maybe he is, but we are so
Speaker 2: easily you know, there can be a stinking, slimy, scaly
Speaker 2: thing going through the room and we look at it
Speaker 2: and we see a little girl with brown hair. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's how easy we are to fool. So number one,
Speaker 2: we need to get wise to the control system, which
Speaker 2: is that. That's what my book is about. Basically, it
Speaker 2: takes every buddy, I don't care what muggle they are.
Speaker 2: You know, they read this book, they'll go wow, I
Speaker 2: didn't know. Then they can look it up and go,
Speaker 2: well that's true. Wow, well that's true. And then by
Speaker 2: the time they get to where I'm proposing the solution,
Speaker 2: they're gonna they'll be pissed off like anybody should be.
Speaker 2: And then basically what it comes down to is if
Speaker 2: we realize what's going on as a human community, and
Speaker 2: we take back our consciousness and we use it, we
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 7: You know, it's I think there's somebody we're being led
Speaker 7: more and more into systematic control and like, you know,
Speaker 7: like and I think COVID was a brilliant example of
Speaker 7: how people will self police and how it's almost like
Speaker 7: they're choosing slavery, like they want more control, more control,
Speaker 7: more control.
Speaker 1: But it's like we really just need to be monad
Speaker 1: to monad, like speaking to somebody's oversoul, being like wake
Speaker 1: the fuck up, Like you don't want to go down
Speaker 1: this like super mad Max or like this. You don't
Speaker 1: want to go down like this ultra enslave kind of system,
Speaker 1: which is what we're like self electing into over and
Speaker 1: over again.
Speaker 2: So at your level, your level of awareness of this,
Speaker 2: because I'm relating to this, right, it's hard to remember,
Speaker 2: like it's not their fault, you know, they're everybody's trying
Speaker 2: to be the best person they can. They're operating on
Speaker 2: information they have. Right, For some reason, some of us
Speaker 2: it didn't penetrate and we're seeing through it, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of our job to put up with
Speaker 2: the bullshit of them calling us names and yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's and it is bad and it's hard. And
Speaker 1: now I've started to just like I bypass their NPC
Speaker 1: overlay structure and I just go straight to their I
Speaker 1: talk to their higher self or their whatever, their oversoul,
Speaker 1: their mom d or whatever. And I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: pleading with people's over souls.
Speaker 8: To like get like remove some of this vela for getting,
Speaker 8: give them some light, like like literally the let the
Speaker 8: light of consciousness come through all these vessels a little
Speaker 8: bit more like they like we they're too closed off,
Speaker 8: like they're too calcified.
Speaker 2: Well, so in your power to do that, Charlie, nice kisses,
Speaker 2: thank you, Okay, Charlie's telling me it's a good okay,
Speaker 2: good good job. All right, your power too, because you
Speaker 2: God help you. If you're my uber dropping, if you're
Speaker 2: if you're if you're sitting next to me and play,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna hear shit, you know, and you can
Speaker 2: think I'm crazy, but things are going to be in
Speaker 2: your head later, and I'm going to make a crack
Speaker 2: in that in that you know exactly.
Speaker 1: That's that's and that's what we do with the YouTube
Speaker 1: is I mean, like, I don't know, I probably get
Speaker 1: like right now, I'm getting a couple hundred people to
Speaker 1: watch it if I'm lucky, and maybe seven people will
Speaker 1: make it this long in the video. But if if, if,
Speaker 1: like it could permeate the subconsciousness of seven people, that
Speaker 1: can have a ripple effect.
Speaker 2: That's powerful. That's super powerful. You don't realize how powerful
Speaker 2: it is, that butterfly effect. I just had this conversation
Speaker 2: like online with one of the activists in Australia about
Speaker 2: the Gosford glypts and they take so much crap down there.
Speaker 2: Oh that's been debunked. Oh that's graffiti. Oh that's blah
Speaker 2: blah all that. You know. This guy with like fifteen
Speaker 2: bucks says it's not not real, you know. And and
Speaker 2: the thing is is it's that's a site where it's
Speaker 2: not just one thing, it's a lot of things. It's
Speaker 2: like the Aboriginal Place. There's all there's so many things
Speaker 2: to that site. So I'm just Trevor and I are
Speaker 2: working on the Italian guys to see if we get who.
Speaker 1: I also think you need to work on is the
Speaker 1: Icho stones, the ica Ica stones in Peru I have.
Speaker 1: We went to like a looter's house and we saw
Speaker 1: like twelve different big boulders, and they have like dinosaurs
Speaker 1: doing like open heart surgery. They have a ton of
Speaker 1: those UFO iconography. There's a lot of core between what
Speaker 1: you've showed me and those. And then there's a museum
Speaker 1: down there called the Echostone Museum. And then the guy
Speaker 1: like won't let you take pictures. He's like insane, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, like there's pictures of like the
Speaker 1: Queen of England visited that place. And I'm the elite
Speaker 1: know more about this stuff than we know than we've
Speaker 1: been allowed to know well, and you need to break
Speaker 1: into those because I think if you could compare and
Speaker 1: contrast that you could probably get some interesting correlations.
Speaker 2: I'm just it's interesting you say the elite, because I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's that's the control system. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to see, Like I don't
Speaker 2: know that anybody even reads books anymore, but I mean literally,
Speaker 2: and I'm like I said, I didn't write this book.
Speaker 2: If people read this book and they understand it it
Speaker 2: could change everything, because it's like once you realize that
Speaker 2: we are just being fed how we think, and it's
Speaker 2: not good for anybody. It's not good for our civilization.
Speaker 2: And we're getting to a point now where we need
Speaker 2: to I mean, number one, we're either coming up on
Speaker 2: another cataclysmic moment or there's been some really strange things
Speaker 2: that have happened, Like you know that those solar expulsions
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve would have taken us out. They just
Speaker 2: happened to go in the right direction, you know. And
Speaker 2: I think that we had some help. And I also
Speaker 2: think that these magnetic excursions could be much worse and
Speaker 2: much more violent, but I think somebody's working on that too.
Speaker 2: I think that we are on the timeline. Congratulations, you're
Speaker 2: on my timeline, because my timeline's a good one, right.
Speaker 2: So I want to tell everybody that if you're watching this,
Speaker 2: this is something you can do. It's incredible. It's really easy.
Speaker 2: When you go to bed at night, you just tell yourself,
Speaker 2: I'm going to wake up tomorrow my best possible timeline,
Speaker 2: and then when you wake up in the morning, try
Speaker 2: to remember and go I just walk up on my
Speaker 2: best possible timeline. And you just do that as a
Speaker 2: habit and just watch what happens you meet Nikki. It's
Speaker 2: what happens, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, which is very very fun. And I also
Speaker 1: I've been playing with timelines for a couple of years
Speaker 1: now and I've and I've been on bad ones and
Speaker 1: now I want a good one. And I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like you can. You can. You can shift your
Speaker 1: timeline that you're in. You really can.
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's like a really good message. I mean
Speaker 2: that didn't plan to go there on this, but okay,
Speaker 2: time is flexible everybody, and time is not what you
Speaker 2: think it is. And we aren't the only beings that
Speaker 2: have can control. We just have been told that we
Speaker 2: don't have the power, and we've been told that we're limited,
Speaker 2: and we're told that we have to have some priest
Speaker 2: bless our water. I'll I'll help bless water with a
Speaker 2: priest any day. Like I've measured it, I can do
Speaker 2: it better, you know, right, Fuck your holy water. My
Speaker 2: holy water is better than yours. You know. I can
Speaker 2: structure it, you know, with my energy, and we can
Speaker 2: freeze it and we can measure it. You know, you
Speaker 2: don't need the Mulah. You don't need the Reverend, don't
Speaker 2: need the pre connected to source. You know, that's the
Speaker 2: biggest illusion there. That was why all those books were written,
Speaker 2: and that they were written in ways to make us
Speaker 2: conflict with each other too. So because when we're not
Speaker 2: in the same page, we're not as dangerous to the
Speaker 2: status quo and the you know, the elites. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a reason they call them blue bloods, and it's
Speaker 2: not because they're completely human.
Speaker 1: I agree with that for sure. So Okay, we have
Speaker 1: to do this again because like we have, there's so
Speaker 1: many other subjects we could talk about. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: we've already been doing it for like an hour and
Speaker 1: a half, so I'm like this is a bit. Let's
Speaker 1: like let's like wrap this up and then like we
Speaker 1: I I feel like we could do lives together. That
Speaker 1: would be fun.
Speaker 2: Sure, you know the Uh let me think I'm good.
Speaker 2: I got to go to that. I'm going to Pyramid
Speaker 2: conference in Chicago. Okay, So this is like I just
Speaker 2: got to tell this really quickly. I met Trevor Grossi
Speaker 2: like years ago, and he was like the broke guy
Speaker 2: that everybody seemed to know, and but he didn't have
Speaker 2: a book out, and you know, was kind of like
Speaker 2: finding his place or whatever. And he would tell me
Speaker 2: about conferences and things going on, and I didn't so
Speaker 2: I registered, and he couldn't afford to go, so I go,
Speaker 2: you know, he stay on my couch, you know. Fine.
Speaker 2: Then he would he knew everybody, so he would introduce
Speaker 2: me to people. And then all of a sudden, like
Speaker 2: last March fifteenth, he became like the most famous guy
Speaker 2: in that space for being connected to the Italian team,
Speaker 2: and they gave him more scans than they released. And
Speaker 2: so I'm so used to being in Hollywood, you know,
Speaker 2: for all those years and you have a friend and
Speaker 2: they'd get a break and you'd never hear from them again,
Speaker 2: you know. And here's Trevor calling me and go, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm speaking at this conference now and they're giving me
Speaker 2: a plus one. You want to you know, like paying
Speaker 2: me back. So he calls me and he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: are you going to Pyramid thing? Because the conference was
Speaker 2: going to rent a car, but you know, if you're
Speaker 2: going to be there, do you want to give a
Speaker 2: ride with me and Christopher Dunn and the Italian team.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yes, so you know, and when you're
Speaker 2: hanging with people at that level, there's this whole other
Speaker 2: world that exists that that most of the world has
Speaker 2: no idea of, and it's so crazy that it's so
Speaker 2: acknowledged and so ubiquitous. I don't know if you've had
Speaker 2: this experience I've been. I've had a really kind of
Speaker 2: charmed last couple of years with this. You know, where
Speaker 2: I seem to where I'm getting the position where I'm
Speaker 2: introducing that famous person to that famous person, and then
Speaker 2: they're doing a conference, and then are this person that
Speaker 2: person and they're doing a thing together, and uh uh.
Speaker 2: It's like these synchronicities are just getting to be crazy.
Speaker 2: So I've gotten to the point now where I'm just insufferable.
Speaker 2: You know, you stop me in the post office and
Speaker 2: I'm going to start telling you about pyramids, fans or
Speaker 2: you know, are about mummies and space, time, memory and whatever,
Speaker 2: because I just feel like we're at this typic point
Speaker 2: right now and all these little ripples and little cracks
Speaker 2: that we make into the NPCs are really important, no
Speaker 2: matter how tiny there girl, And I.
Speaker 1: Mean like there were times where all of us were MPCs.
Speaker 1: You know, there were times when all of us were
Speaker 1: or at least for me, there was a time when
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I mean I did the whole
Speaker 1: go to college, good job, do the thing you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do for a minute, you know, like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's really hard to bust out and become your own thinker.
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it was kind of hard to
Speaker 1: stay not being my own thinker. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: can see how it's it's not built in our favor
Speaker 1: to basically bust out of it. So I'll give them that.
Speaker 2: The hardest, the hardest thing for us is to just
Speaker 2: remember that at breath and go, Okay, they don't know
Speaker 2: any better, Okay, so we just got to you know,
Speaker 2: they're gonna call me names, and they're gonna be mean,
Speaker 2: or they're gonna be whatever, you know, And it's kind
Speaker 2: of like the most difficult and challenging people are our masters,
Speaker 2: and we're here to learn from them, and if we don't,
Speaker 2: we're going to just get them again. Right, So there's
Speaker 2: no fun. But that's why we set it up somewhere.
Speaker 2: Ye all right, So thank you so much. I would
Speaker 2: love to talk again. And we've got so many things
Speaker 2: we haven't covered and there's a bunch more artifacts that
Speaker 2: we'll be coming through at probably Trevor. And once we
Speaker 2: go to we're gonna go to Dubai and do a
Speaker 2: thing right, and if we can get this royal family
Speaker 2: to introduce us to this royal family, we might be
Speaker 2: able to see some cool stuff in Saudi and then
Speaker 2: go over to Egypt. And I want Trevor to me
Speaker 2: some secret places that only Trevor could take me, so
Speaker 2: could end up. And then in December, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be in Guatemala with Cliff Dunning and Lydia did Leon
Speaker 2: because I introduced them and they're doing a trip and
Speaker 2: I thought I should go. But it's one of places
Speaker 2: you can still go to, you know, the ancient structures
Speaker 2: and bring a shaman and do a ceremony. Where in
Speaker 2: Mexico like they think it's devil worship or whatever, you
Speaker 2: can't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're going to to call? Was that you
Speaker 1: going to to call?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We're going everywhere and I got to get an
Speaker 2: a helicopter, which will be you know, this is the
Speaker 2: only time. Well I'm going to go. I can tell
Speaker 2: you about Graham. We're going to go to over the
Speaker 2: Nosca lines and the helicopter too, So I mean I'll
Speaker 2: make a.
Speaker 1: Lot of plans going on and yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: you'll have a lot to talk about. I Cliff dunning
Speaker 1: to Egypt with Muhammad. That's so I met Cliff before.
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. But yeah, uh, and I've done
Speaker 1: I've done my fair share of at them all is amazing.
Speaker 1: At a Comma Lake, It's like, yeah, there's UFOs coming
Speaker 1: out of it and stuff. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I spent my whole morning like, uh, defending Mohammad's honor
Speaker 2: on the Gospord glyphs. I was just like self pissed,
Speaker 2: like don't with my friends, man, because like like you,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you have no idea who I am and
Speaker 2: what I know and you know and I know who
Speaker 2: you are, so I can.
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like you said where you were like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I think these are fake. Then think like
Speaker 1: if people want to want to want to throw shade
Speaker 1: and think that, like about any kind of subject, I'm like, okay, good,
Speaker 1: then like all these things actually have codes for our memory.
Speaker 1: And if if they're gonna like then they don't get
Speaker 1: the they don't get the dessert. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like they can just they can just go do whatever,
Speaker 1: go watch football. Then I don't care. But I'll then
Speaker 1: leave it to me. I'll go see the Golford Gosford glyphs.
Speaker 1: I'll compare with something else. I'll figure it out. Like
Speaker 1: even if you're throwing shade in it, that puts it
Speaker 1: on my radar because because it'll like more people be
Speaker 1: talking about it and it pops up to me. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: throw all the shades you want. And if you really
Speaker 1: want to be that much of a naysayer, that's cool.
Speaker 1: But like I'll go ahead and I'll take the sucker,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'll go have the dessert and you
Speaker 1: get deuces.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I start feeling about it now.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, you can be a naysayer about
Speaker 1: everything if you wanted.
Speaker 2: To, but football, alcohol, these are all spells put over us.
Speaker 2: That's a whole subject there too, So that'll be for
Speaker 2: another time.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, bye, Frank, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you,