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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Tuesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of August nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing with A Gentleman in Moscow, a limited series

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<v Speaker 2>on Paramount Plus based on a book. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>called an Assembly, and we had a lot going on

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of good spycraft, and you know, Alexander really

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<v Speaker 2>coming trying to trying to face the fact that this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a good situation and he needs to get

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<v Speaker 2>Sophia out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, especially if she's going to continue to just wantonly

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<v Speaker 1>play the Blues whenever she feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it, or right in front of the weasel?

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<v Speaker 1>How is it that he has not fallen a foul

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody. I mean, I feel bad for Osip and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that things will go very badly from him.

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<v Speaker 1>But does Krushev mean that we get rid of the weasel.

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<v Speaker 3>He's part of the old.

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<v Speaker 1>Guard, right, he is a picture of stolen in his office.

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<v Speaker 3>Drag that man away immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, but I was very worried when he

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<v Speaker 1>had Sophia come into her office and closed his door.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, never never a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it turns out he is he is just a

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<v Speaker 1>political weasel and not somebody who would harm a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman psychologically.

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<v Speaker 3>So right, I didn't your parents got killed? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like thanks that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, that guy? What is that guy still around?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta he gotta admire him though, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's aged all through the almost all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through this series in that hotel, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>thinks pretty highly of himself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who knows what's going to happen to him? But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody has read it out that he has

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of stolen in his office and was very

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<v Speaker 1>upset about the man's death, right right, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, I hope so, but it is you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel for Osip, who at the beginning was

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<v Speaker 1>such a foe and by the end he feels like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Alexander should have been a little nicer

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<v Speaker 1>to him there at the end, Right, it's your friend,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your movie, watch movies with him?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, he saved your daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like snippy with him now, like's some gratitude all

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<v Speaker 1>for Yeah, well, Osip did not appear to necessarily want it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did at least give him my heads up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And his wife, who was so snippy the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we saw her, looked truly like what do I pack

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<v Speaker 1>for the Gulag?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>This is not going to go well for us?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever is the is the horrible fate DuJour in the

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<v Speaker 1>new regime?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, Misha comes back, who I had assumed was

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<v Speaker 1>long ago shot and thrown off at the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the road somewhere, right, But when they when they previously

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<v Speaker 1>as had him all over them, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so at least for the light, at least for

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<v Speaker 3>part of this episode.

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<v Speaker 5>He's still live, I guess, right, but he has been

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<v Speaker 5>thoroughly broken physically and spiritually and mentally, and he.

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<v Speaker 2>He cannot stay.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly thought he was gonna go throw himself off

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<v Speaker 1>the backstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm I'm glad he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but isn't that what the girl did who alexander sister?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can't quite remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that would have been like a poetic right,

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<v Speaker 1>but just wanders off into the snow. I'm sure he's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna find himself a nice coffee shop and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have a pastry and then go right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, that was very sad, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Some very like tender moments with Alexander trying to help

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<v Speaker 2>him and trying to console him and wash.

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<v Speaker 1>His must have been very upsettingly awful feet. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was tragic.

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<v Speaker 2>But it certainly got him to be like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't I cannot just assume everything's going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to protect my kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, right right, Although I was thinking when he goes

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<v Speaker 1>wired up into this meeting. It's like, if this goes bad,

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to go bad for his kid too. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just hope everything. Yeah, and Anna was with Sophia like,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the rebellious stage, Honey, I really do, but

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<v Speaker 1>not tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Not oh dear oh man. Yeah. I feel like in

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<v Speaker 2>the book a couple of differences. One, Sophia was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more sort of innocent, and she wasn't she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>being so sassy to the weasel, you know, she just

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<v Speaker 2>she was just kind of this sweet little thing who

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<v Speaker 2>was a very talented musician. And and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing about the dress, that blue dress that she

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<v Speaker 2>had on. They basically changed it to when he had

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<v Speaker 2>that freak out about her sitting next to the boy

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<v Speaker 2>on the piano bench. He in the book it was

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<v Speaker 2>over that dress and how it was like backless and

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<v Speaker 2>he was all like clutching his pearls over that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was kind of expecting something like that, a

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<v Speaker 1>little fatherly, But something on those shoulders missed.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly that that for sure happened in the book. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I don't, I don't. I could be wrong because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not good at remembering specifics about books, but I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that the he didn't wear like a wire to

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<v Speaker 2>that to that dinner. He just took mental.

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<v Speaker 3>Notes that would make a lot more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know he he had like drew this

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<v Speaker 2>whole diagram of who was sitting where, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like very important to know who was sitting in what seats,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. He it was a whole It was quite

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<v Speaker 2>a long, you know scene. So that that was a

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<v Speaker 2>change that they that they had to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously so dangerous to have the wire, especially the relatively

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<v Speaker 1>primitive wire setup that they had.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, given they had a man whose whole job was

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<v Speaker 2>to be looking for yes, these things, seems like that

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<v Speaker 2>could have been anticipated.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, fortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>The people whose job it was to frisk and to

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<v Speaker 1>find the bugs were not good at their jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>So he made it through, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And they also in the book, you know, introduced that

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<v Speaker 2>character of the American spy slash ambassador guy way before this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was the first time we've seen him before.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, but in the book it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a very long.

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<v Speaker 1>I would wish for that, and I didn't think that

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<v Speaker 1>we had seen him before, but you needed to have

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to have built the same relationship with him

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<v Speaker 1>that he did with other people. And yes, this just

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<v Speaker 1>seems like out of the blue, this guy says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like you to.

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<v Speaker 3>Risk your life. Here's what you need to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, so that was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that for sure was something that would not.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been hard to insert that guy into like ten

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<v Speaker 1>scenes over the course of the series.

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<v Speaker 4>Right or three, Yeah, just like, well, a couple enough

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<v Speaker 4>that you remembered him, you know, Yes, a small conversation

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<v Speaker 4>at the bar in one episode of you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just would.

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<v Speaker 1>Not have to be much, but I he just like

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the you know, out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there's a few things like that that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously they had to condense for for a time because,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, anticipating the ending, there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who need to play a part, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>found them all yet. So really, yeah, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure how they're gonna make that all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're going to condense the number of people necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're gonna have rolls or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But right, yeah, I mean I was wondering. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>wondering all along, you know, like you can do things

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<v Speaker 2>in books that you can't do in TV and vice versa,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, so I'm curious to see how it all

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<v Speaker 2>it all ends up. So but uh, at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least uh Anna finally told the count that she loves him.

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<v Speaker 6>That it was a surprise to him, that was such

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<v Speaker 6>a great scene and he's just stunned, and she said, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to repeat it like you got one, buddy,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>They've pretty much raised a child together and known each

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<v Speaker 1>other for decades and decades under dangerous situations, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know his buddies apparently in his mind, right, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet relationship they've had. Yeah, I guess we did

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<v Speaker 1>not see Olga this time, so I guess you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>correct that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the voiceover saying we were all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, had to do with her no longer being around

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She's retired and taking it easy with vastly.

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<v Speaker 1>How many years are supposed to have passed between last

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<v Speaker 1>episode in this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Not it can be that many, right, because Sophia was

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<v Speaker 2>as a teenager at the end of the last one

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<v Speaker 2>and she's still a teenager in this one, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>only it's only been a short time. I think. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's nineteen fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they said what was it last time? They

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<v Speaker 1>need to give better signposts on I don't know they

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<v Speaker 1>put the numbers of days, but I mean being that

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<v Speaker 1>it's this, I think that she maybe was a younger

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<v Speaker 1>teenager in the last one. In this, she's an older

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<v Speaker 1>teen or early twenty something. I don't know, but it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like time had gone by for the others. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so presumably for her as well. Unless there's a place

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<v Speaker 1>on the roof where you don't age.

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<v Speaker 2>Time doesn't time doesn't pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's harder to it's harder to age a young

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<v Speaker 1>person into a slightly older young person than it is

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, make a young person look older and older

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<v Speaker 1>and older and older, right or not.

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<v Speaker 3>A young person in middle aged? How old is you?

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<v Speaker 3>And McGregor, Yeah, good question. Maybe the youth jim up

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<v Speaker 3>for the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Him up for the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's quite a long time span, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was worried that when they were doing all

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous about people having discussions, and how is

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<v Speaker 1>it that after all these all this time, nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>at will and nobody says, hey, uh, the Count doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>Where what could he be?

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<v Speaker 2>And where is he? Where is his his friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Periods of time completely and nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, only his friends know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I guess they don't have his room bugged,

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<v Speaker 3>which seems foolish. Why would you not?

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<v Speaker 1>But why would not have OSIP done that? Ages and

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they didn't have the technology at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you would think the weasel would have gotten

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<v Speaker 3>I bet he's talking about me.

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<v Speaker 2>What is he saying about me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed, enjoyed when he was giving a toast to

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<v Speaker 1>the fallen leader, and all the staff was just like

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<v Speaker 3>Eyes, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, great, Stalin missed, It's not really.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be careful, oh my.

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<v Speaker 1>The talk about the modern conveniences that we have in America.

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<v Speaker 3>Door open garage door openers, garage door openers, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all this stuff well, I'm gonna send you, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you sort of disapprove a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna send your kid there because that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>System.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have the conveniences. And of course that's right what

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was a kid, my mom would

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the car and open the garage door.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my dad would stay behind the wheel. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom would have to get out and yank the thing up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I imagined she was pretty psyched when garage door

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<v Speaker 1>openers became a thing. But you know, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>unmanly for my dad to not have done it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think his feeling was he would have to turn

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, he was the driver, I was the driver,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was always the driver, right, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess women maybe see the value of the conveniences.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like Anna said, you know, you see, he says

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<v Speaker 1>he's been in the most inconvenient place, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>he really hasn't been in the most inconvenient place, a

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<v Speaker 1>very very cushy spot, right, even under the limited circumstances, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Even though he has he has fallen from us, from

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<v Speaker 2>gentlemen to waiter. But he has always had enough to eat,

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<v Speaker 2>He's had a roof over his head, he's had a

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<v Speaker 2>secret room, he's he's never seemed to have a shower

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<v Speaker 2>or a bathtub, but he's managed to keep himself clean

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<v Speaker 2>somehows right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well maybe he uses anna as when he's over there,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you know, he's you make your you make

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<v Speaker 1>your best to what you got, and he has a

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<v Speaker 1>good place to make the best of raised raised one

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<v Speaker 1>kid there, sort of partially partially friendship wise, a second

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<v Speaker 1>so sad, he's had a surprisingly complete life for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else and in jail, right, so house arrested, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And now of course he comes to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>you have to let your kid go, right, that's very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>But even if it weren't the case that if she stayed,

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<v Speaker 1>she would have a life of problems, even so, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still hard to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still hardly.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bird, It's fine, it'll be fine. I can't go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to stay behind.

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<v Speaker 3>But you go, right, you know, And uh, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess Nina also flew off to have

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<v Speaker 1>her life and that didn't work out, so well, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully Sophia will you know, have a wonderful career as

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<v Speaker 1>a pianist and wear beautiful dresses and not end up

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<v Speaker 1>in a ditch it's frozen area. And we know she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't because she is narrating.

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<v Speaker 2>She's narrating exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of times in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going, oh no, oh, wait a minute, She's

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to talk about it, so that's a relief. And

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<v Speaker 1>also there's one more episode, so I'm pretty sure Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get killed in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well that'll lead us to Spence. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>next week we will discuss that finale. It's called adieu,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you know, a signal there, Yes we are

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<v Speaker 2>last episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we will also.

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<v Speaker 2>Kick off the next season of only Murders in the Building.

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<v Speaker 1>It's back the building to building related properties, one after

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<v Speaker 1>the other.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true, but I believe they are leaving the

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<v Speaker 2>building and this month that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't in the building, but they are not themselves

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<v Speaker 1>staying in the buildings. Right, everybody's fully in next.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, so since that show is going to be dropping

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<v Speaker 2>its episodes on Tuesdays, we are going to give ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>a day to collect our thoughts and discuss those episodes

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<v Speaker 2>on our Wednesday episodes. So then we're gonna switch lost

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<v Speaker 2>to Tuesdays, but for this week, our last chat will

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<v Speaker 2>still be on Wednesday, which is tomorrow, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you back here for that.

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