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Speaker 2: patient enough to work with me man and go through
Speaker 2: the growing pains with me while I figure this stuff out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks a lot.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I will say this that when I started going live
Speaker 3: back when YouTube first off for the feature, I thought
Speaker 3: it was so cool to see like maybe two or
Speaker 3: three people watching. I was like, Wow, this is so awesome,
Speaker 3: Like there's literally people watching me live right now. But
Speaker 3: the feature is so much better now on YouTube. I
Speaker 3: feel like YouTube really does favor the live algorithm quite
Speaker 3: a bit most times. And so but you got to
Speaker 3: be careful who you go live with, too, because some
Speaker 3: people will get you in trouble with their mouth. But man,
Speaker 3: you know, especially right now, getting in trouble in your
Speaker 3: mouth is kind of the topic of conversation. But this
Speaker 3: whole Charlie Kirk thing, Man, it's just such a sad thing.
Speaker 3: We were talking about before the show. How horrible it
Speaker 3: is that somebody just decided to delete this guy's life
Speaker 3: for something he said, you know, for an idea that
Speaker 3: he upholds. And I don't know everything about what Charlie
Speaker 3: Kirk believes. I really don't. I know that he was, uh,
Speaker 3: I think as the beliefs were very similar to mine
Speaker 3: from what I heard from people that knew him. He
Speaker 3: did the Sabbath, and he's a believer in Jesus like me,
Speaker 3: and all of those things. And he was really kind
Speaker 3: of able to stand and be bold in front of
Speaker 3: thousands of people at thirty one years old. Man, he's
Speaker 3: accomplished so much more than most people. I mean way,
Speaker 3: I'm forty almost forty three, and he's accomplished so much
Speaker 3: more than me. At his early age of thirty one
Speaker 3: and he's kind of become a martyr for all of this. Now.
Speaker 3: It's tragic, man, you know, to see what happened. I
Speaker 3: can't believe it. Everybody saw it. Everybody witnessed it. It's
Speaker 3: still on major platforms to see and just a sad moment.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know the guy, and I feel sad, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, so yeah, especially it's like, you know, he
Speaker 2: was a you know, he was a podcaster, but he
Speaker 2: was a Christian served up and he was going to
Speaker 2: all these places and trying to witness, you know, to
Speaker 2: these kids that are so impressionable and being indoctrinated in
Speaker 2: these colleges and stuff. And a lot of people like
Speaker 2: to look at it as these people just they like
Speaker 2: to argue. I mean, they might like to debate, but
Speaker 2: I mean I truly think a lot of these guys
Speaker 2: that they go to try to get through to these
Speaker 2: kids and you know, wash that that black peel off
Speaker 2: of them that these colleges try to put in their
Speaker 2: brain and try to plant that seed for Christ. And
Speaker 2: one thing that I thought was just crazy was as
Speaker 2: I was going through watching all the different clips online,
Speaker 2: the only thing that these news organizations kept bringing up
Speaker 2: is Oh he was a controversial figure. Oh he was
Speaker 2: a controversial figure. Oh he was always in hot water
Speaker 2: because he spoke out against LGBTQ and supporting the president.
Speaker 2: And it's like they always had to. I mean I
Speaker 2: listened to several different ones. I got to try to
Speaker 2: get different perspectives, but every single one of them felt
Speaker 2: like they had to preface that kind of like, ah,
Speaker 2: he had it coming.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just awful.
Speaker 3: I saw some of the comments were just so bad
Speaker 3: that I just couldn't believe. Actually, I you know, oddly enough,
Speaker 3: my algorithm didn't really show that side of it, but
Speaker 3: my wife's you know, she was looking at it, and
Speaker 3: she was showing me some of the comments that some
Speaker 3: of these people were making, like like you said, he
Speaker 3: had it coming, or you know, good for that. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm glad it happened. And I'm just thinking, like, where
Speaker 3: are we at in humanity where we're cheering the death
Speaker 3: of somebody just because they said something we don't like.
Speaker 3: It just shows me that there's a possibility that we're
Speaker 3: entering a new phase of existence because we're divided. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't believe that there's people that would be okay
Speaker 3: with this. I I can't imagine being okay. I don't
Speaker 3: care who it is, Like I don't know, Like I said,
Speaker 3: I don't really know what all that Charlie Kirk represents.
Speaker 3: But even if it was somebody that I didn't really
Speaker 3: care for, Let's say, what's that one girl that is
Speaker 3: always in the media issues, like a younger Amanda Cortes
Speaker 3: or something, you know whatever, one of these one of
Speaker 3: these politicians that everybody kind of hates. Even that, Like,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't cheer that on just killing somebody because of
Speaker 3: what they've said publicly, because I do believe that the
Speaker 3: tongue is often mightier than the sword, and that even
Speaker 3: though Charlie was killed, he is now probably his words
Speaker 3: are going to be sound louder than they ever have before,
Speaker 3: because now people are going to see, look at this,
Speaker 3: this guy got killed for saying this. What did he say?
Speaker 3: And they're going to look at it and they're going
Speaker 3: to see that he most likely, like I said, I
Speaker 3: don't know everything that he's talking about, but if you
Speaker 3: get killed for speaking, you're probably saying some things that
Speaker 3: you can't be refuted and you can't be shut down for.
Speaker 3: And people are just like, can't believe that you're able
Speaker 3: to go to that level and say those things in
Speaker 3: that high of stature and to a point to where
Speaker 3: something gets riled up and you have to die. That
Speaker 3: tells me that there's something worth hearing what that person says.
Speaker 3: That's my opinion. Maybe, of course the person on the
Speaker 3: opposite side would have a completely opposite opinion to me,
Speaker 3: but there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and honestly, Dane, it's just I know it's
Speaker 2: kind of cliche, but I mean, if the shoe fits
Speaker 2: wear it, I mean, that's how I like to look
Speaker 2: at things. But it's like it's a demonic thing. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: I mean, how disturbed is a person like you said,
Speaker 2: just to can't stand to hear someone that has a
Speaker 2: different opinion than you. And these shooters and most of
Speaker 2: them they ain't doing nothing. They're not real activists, you know.
Speaker 2: And the people that they're shooting and attacking are the
Speaker 2: ones that are boots on the ground, traveling everywhere and
Speaker 2: trying to get their message out. And it's like it's
Speaker 2: just you know, like you said, most of the time,
Speaker 2: it's really hard truth and the exposing the darkness. And
Speaker 2: then these demons, they get riled up and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna quieten down, then we will shut him down.
Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, what kind of person just
Speaker 2: here's an opinion they don't agree with and gets so
Speaker 2: enraged and infuriated that they have to go and.
Speaker 4: Take their life.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, that just shows I mean, a
Speaker 2: total lack of control. And it has to be, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, just demonic possession.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it either has to be that or and there
Speaker 3: and will probably there'll probably be a million conspiracy theories
Speaker 3: about this subject for years to come. I mean, because
Speaker 3: we don't know the guy that did it. We don't
Speaker 3: even know if if he did it. We know that
Speaker 3: he's being pinned for it, but we don't know who
Speaker 3: else was involved, if there was mental trauma involved that
Speaker 3: caused this guy Manchurian type candidate type things like you know,
Speaker 3: we're just now starting to find out things about the
Speaker 3: Kennedy assassination. And of course some people believe they know
Speaker 3: more than others, and maybe they do. But I just
Speaker 3: can't imagine that, I like you, I can't imagine that
Speaker 3: somebody would just get fired up enough like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: shoot this guy. He's doing too much for all these people.
Speaker 3: You know, he's saying too much. It almost has to
Speaker 3: be something orchestrated. Sometimes. I believe that it's possible that
Speaker 3: it has to be orchestrated. And I don't know for sure,
Speaker 3: but it's either orchestrated or like you said, it is
Speaker 3: a guy that's enraged so much that he can't stand
Speaker 3: it and we have to. I mean, there is a
Speaker 3: sent instance of this happening in history with Jesus. I mean,
Speaker 3: they were so enraged with what Jesus said that they
Speaker 3: put him to death. So it is a reality that
Speaker 3: that does happen, that they this guy was so enraged,
Speaker 3: hemonically possessed that he just had to end this guy's
Speaker 3: life because he couldn't stand to hear any more any
Speaker 3: more of whatever was coming out of his mouth to
Speaker 3: come out of his mouth. I mean, so, I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: I wonder what all the conspiracy theories from here on
Speaker 3: out are going to be, because I guarantee you there's
Speaker 3: gonna be people saying this is a false flag. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be people saying that this is didn't really happen,
Speaker 3: some people saying it did happen, but this it was
Speaker 3: contracted by this company. I mean, there's gonna be so
Speaker 3: many things. What's your if you had to guess on
Speaker 3: the next big conspiracy theory surrounding Charlie Kirk, what would
Speaker 3: your what would your guests be? This is a guest,
Speaker 3: not a prophecy, but I guess what is your guess?
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's just it's one of those things that it's
Speaker 2: so all over the place in so many different possibilities.
Speaker 2: But the one thing that I keep hearing from a
Speaker 2: lot of people is this is a it might be
Speaker 2: kind of like a like a false flag, you know,
Speaker 2: government implant kind of thing to take this guy out
Speaker 2: for a martyr and to scare the people enough to
Speaker 2: either the podcasters and stuff that are speaking out and
Speaker 2: being bold about this thing, you know, kind of like, hey,
Speaker 2: look what happened to this guy? You know, mind your
Speaker 2: p's and q's and you better fall in line. And
Speaker 2: then at the same time, it's like the whole gun
Speaker 2: rights thing, you know, just kind of like nine to
Speaker 2: eleven scared the people so much that they will trade
Speaker 2: all of their freedoms for a sense of security. And
Speaker 2: I think it was Benjamin Franklin that said, those who
Speaker 2: trade their freedom for security deserved neither. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of what they do, man, I mean, if it's not
Speaker 2: what they do.
Speaker 4: I mean, the.
Speaker 2: Patterns are just uncanny because there's always a huge problem
Speaker 2: and then a solution to that problem, but that solution
Speaker 2: always gives them a little bit of a upper hand
Speaker 2: on the people and takes away some freedoms. And right, so,
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people saying already that this
Speaker 2: is a thing for gun control, and that Trump's gonna
Speaker 2: come after the guns, and this is the you know,
Speaker 2: just another step on the way to disarming us and
Speaker 2: getting us closer to that new world order.
Speaker 3: I think that's super valid. I think that's probably the
Speaker 3: closest to the reality of all this because ultimately, anything,
Speaker 3: no matter what happened, how it happened, is going to
Speaker 3: be used for that, and we've seen it happen over
Speaker 3: and over and over again with Obama. I remember thinking that,
Speaker 3: I remember saying this at the time. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: this guy is the best gun salesman AMMO salesman in
Speaker 3: the world by far, because every time he opens his mouth,
Speaker 3: people rush and buy millions of dollars worth of AMMO
Speaker 3: and guns to the point it's almost all gone. And
Speaker 3: every time you know, anything would happen, this is what
Speaker 3: would happen. It's almost like they're priming us to buy
Speaker 3: more and more and more. So I'll often think too,
Speaker 3: it's like, yes, we're they want us to think that
Speaker 3: they want to take and grab, But what if they're
Speaker 3: preparing us for a mass war that we need to keep,
Speaker 3: you know, because people were buying. I mean there's there's
Speaker 3: people that got millions of dollars worth of AMMO and guns,
Speaker 3: and there's yeah, there's people everywhere that just are just
Speaker 3: you know, loaded down to bear and it's all been
Speaker 3: off of whatever they've seen on the news, you know,
Speaker 3: thinking Okay, Boom, it's time to get this, it's time
Speaker 3: to get that. And I really do see a division
Speaker 3: taking place big time. Like just before this happened, you
Speaker 3: saw the Ukrainian girl that was murdered by some monster
Speaker 3: in the subway, just some dude just straight up janktor
Speaker 3: right there. Boom killed her instantly, pretty much right there
Speaker 3: on the bus or subway. I don't even know. I
Speaker 3: saw the videos I see are haunting. That's why I
Speaker 3: can't even like I get on X and all that
Speaker 3: I like. I like to do like fight training and stuff,
Speaker 3: but I don't really like to watch fights. Like if
Speaker 3: I see a friend of mine doing MMA, like I
Speaker 3: had a friend do he had his one of his
Speaker 3: fights that he was getting his mm a thing for
Speaker 3: and like I was there, but I didn't even like
Speaker 3: to watch it. Well, like on X, you see all
Speaker 3: the videos. Well, I saw this girl murdered on X.
Speaker 3: I saw Charlie Kirk, you know, deleted on X, and
Speaker 3: I saw these things and it's kind of traumatic, which
Speaker 3: when you see it, but it feels like it feels
Speaker 3: like something it reminds me of of like a a
Speaker 3: trailer to a movie or to the next episode, what's
Speaker 3: coming next. You know, you have this poor little, sweet,
Speaker 3: pretty blonde girl who was murdered by a big black
Speaker 3: guy who had been to prison multiple times. And then
Speaker 3: you have this other instance where Charlie Clerk to people
Speaker 3: who have morals, looks like the just the model man, right,
Speaker 3: He's going around, he's got to beautiful wife to beautiful children,
Speaker 3: going around speaking about morals, connecting with children on campus,
Speaker 3: being somebody that probably society really needs right now. And
Speaker 3: then some mental monster comes and slays them in front
Speaker 3: of the entire world, and so it just feels like
Speaker 3: there's something there. And of course I don't believe all
Speaker 3: of these people were in on a skit. I believe
Speaker 3: it's very spiritual that all of this stuff is being
Speaker 3: spiritually portrayed on purpose, on time through people. And I
Speaker 3: even believe that there's people out there that aren't really people,
Speaker 3: that they're just you know, programmed type people that are
Speaker 3: out there set to do certain things to further the agenda.
Speaker 3: I do believe all that stuff, even though it sounds
Speaker 3: completely nuts to like the probably more than half the
Speaker 3: people listening, they're like, this guy's crazy. But ultimately I
Speaker 3: believe that, and I believe that we're going to see
Speaker 3: something wild take place. I just believe that peace and
Speaker 3: peace and safety are getting really even more and more
Speaker 3: unsettled with this happening. It's going to empower some crazy
Speaker 3: people to do this because of the the courage and
Speaker 3: the I wouldn't say courage, but the positive exaltation of
Speaker 3: this from some people online. There's people who are going
Speaker 3: to feel like heroes for doing something. Along those things,
Speaker 3: I just see it's a possibility that We're going to
Speaker 3: be start seeing some really monstrous, horrific things coming in
Speaker 3: the next few months. I could be wrong, but it
Speaker 3: feels that way. It just feels like when you're watching
Speaker 3: a soap opera. You see all the little, you know,
Speaker 3: the little commercials leading up to the next episode, A
Speaker 3: big switch is taking place, and boom, you got this,
Speaker 3: and then boom, this happens in this and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, boom, people change cash, change things happen,
Speaker 3: and it just feels like the end of a season,
Speaker 3: almost on a you know, political apprentice.
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: And for those that you know, I want to say,
Speaker 2: you're crazy. How you said, you know, people might think
Speaker 2: I'm crazy. Well, for those that are you know, Christians
Speaker 2: and say that, it's like to those people, I just
Speaker 2: want to point them right back to Deuteronomy thirty two,
Speaker 2: you know, verse eight. I mean, this is a cosmic
Speaker 2: chess match. You know, everybody looks at the Tower of Bible.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that was just a tall building and
Speaker 2: God confused the languages. It's like, no, when you go
Speaker 2: back to Judonomy thirty two, it says that not only
Speaker 2: the people were divided, it says that mankind the peoples
Speaker 2: themselves was divided amongst the Benahi Eloheim, the sons of God,
Speaker 2: and he said, but Jacob Israel is my allotted portion,
Speaker 2: and so like. Right after that, that's when he calls
Speaker 2: out Abraham. And that's it's significant here, and a lot
Speaker 2: of people miss it because they don't have that Deuteronomy
Speaker 2: thirty two worldview. But when he called out Abraham, what
Speaker 2: does he say? He says, through your name, all nations
Speaker 2: shall be blessed, because he's talking about the Messiah and
Speaker 2: he's going to call those nations back into himself. That's
Speaker 2: what he was signaling. At the top of Mount Hermont,
Speaker 2: where the rebellion took place, he threw down that spiritual
Speaker 2: battle flag and there they said, al and his seventy sons,
Speaker 2: his divining council reigned and passed out judgment.
Speaker 4: Well what did he do there?
Speaker 2: He sent out his seventy to go reclaim the nations.
Speaker 2: And there's so much foreshadowings too. Mike Kaiser's book Reversing
Speaker 2: Herman was so great because he talked about that a lot,
Speaker 2: and I think it was secut But that festival, when
Speaker 2: you look at all the sacrifices going down through there
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't pay attention, but it's like
Speaker 2: h on the first day they sacrifice and don't quote
Speaker 2: me on this number, but like four bulls and three lambs,
Speaker 2: and they have all these specific numbers, and each day
Speaker 2: it keeps increasing. But when you add all those up,
Speaker 2: they sacrificed during that week, seventy once again signaling the
Speaker 2: throwing down of these principalities that rule over the nations,
Speaker 2: like you were saying, pulling the strings of the people
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. And that's why I said at the cross,
Speaker 2: you know, the bulls of Bashan surround me. It's it's
Speaker 2: these seventy bulls, these authority principalities. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: it's in our texts for those with eyes to see.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're leaving it. We are on the chess.
Speaker 3: Board, absolutely. And the talks about in Psalms to these
Speaker 3: these uh council getting together and talking about, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of overthrow or whatever, and he talks about laughing,
Speaker 3: you know, in their conspiracy against him, and and how
Speaker 3: one day he's going to take over all people's those
Speaker 3: the divine Council is going to be cast down and
Speaker 3: be done. They're going to be done because they took.
Speaker 3: They they weren't judgment, they didn't do judgment correctly. They
Speaker 3: took more than they should have taken. They did killed
Speaker 3: more than their should have killed. They weren't there for
Speaker 3: the right people. I mean, they did unjustly in their land.
Speaker 3: And so we're looking at a time period to where
Speaker 3: I feel like God's people are getting ready to be
Speaker 3: in a war man and something crazy like that. I
Speaker 3: don't know that. I don't even know what to describe
Speaker 3: it as, because when you look at the Book of Revelation,
Speaker 3: you look at books like you know, Ezekiel, it's really
Speaker 3: hard to decipher exactly the way things and timeline of things,
Speaker 3: the way they're going to go down. I've and I
Speaker 3: know you have to. I've interviewed a lot of different eschatologists,
Speaker 3: people that really focus in maybe most of their ministry
Speaker 3: on prophecy, and a lot of them are very full
Speaker 3: of wisdom and full of knowledge, and but all of them,
Speaker 3: almost all of them disagree to some extent or another.
Speaker 3: I myself have studied eschatology, and I'm a panologist. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you know what that is, but you know,
Speaker 3: it all pan out right type thing, So you know,
Speaker 3: I don't understand at all, and I wish I did,
Speaker 3: and there's things that I think I understand, but I'm
Speaker 3: also open to the idea that it could be this way,
Speaker 3: because I think, really that's kind of one of the
Speaker 3: only ways to not be fully deceived is to be
Speaker 3: too panned down, pinned down on a idea that you're
Speaker 3: unwilling to accept the possibility that you're wrong. And because
Speaker 3: one of the ways I can really truly think of
Speaker 3: that there's going to be possibly people deceived is just
Speaker 3: this is an example, because this could be completely wrong.
Speaker 3: But if you believe that you're going to be lifted
Speaker 3: up out of here before the mark of the Beast,
Speaker 3: and let's say that's not the case, to say that,
Speaker 3: maybe you're wrong on that, Like, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people that believe that, but there's a lot
Speaker 3: of people that don't believe that. But let's say you're
Speaker 3: wrong and you decide to take the mark of the
Speaker 3: Beast just because you just can't believe that it is
Speaker 3: possible that you should be here at that time, you
Speaker 3: know that could be dangerous. Instead, you could be like, well,
Speaker 3: maybe I was a little bit wrong about the timing
Speaker 3: of this and maybe this is the mark of the
Speaker 3: beast because it fits and checks all the other boxes.
Speaker 3: So maybe I shouldn't deceive myself by being too strict
Speaker 3: on what I believe about that. And That's where I'm
Speaker 3: at on the on this all thing. Just you really
Speaker 3: should look and see what the other ideas are so
Speaker 3: that when they come, if things happen that way, you're
Speaker 3: you're kind of ready for You've seen it, you've thought
Speaker 3: about it. It's played down your head. You weren't like
Speaker 3: dogmatically tied down to this is the right thing. And
Speaker 3: if you don't, you know, you weren't tied down to
Speaker 3: you know how people are. Some people get like just
Speaker 3: dogmatically tied down to those things. And I get it
Speaker 3: because it's like you don't want to fall for deception.
Speaker 3: But I think it's okay to be, you know, knowing
Speaker 3: that just because we are in twenty twenty five doesn't
Speaker 3: mean we have to know everything about it all. Because
Speaker 3: even the church fathers, like the ones before, the nice
Speaker 3: seen church fathers, the antinessne church fathers in one hundred
Speaker 3: two hundred eight, they didn't all agree on all of
Speaker 3: those things. So if they didn't all agree and they're
Speaker 3: like right there, probably right around the time that John
Speaker 3: the Revelator was there around the earth, and so then
Speaker 3: why should we understand it all and agree? But they
Speaker 3: did have proper dialogue between each other to throw points
Speaker 3: of view, which is I think, you know, very important
Speaker 3: to do. But man, you know, almost everybody will agree
Speaker 3: on one thing, and that were seems like we're very
Speaker 3: close to coming to the end of something. Even the
Speaker 3: occultists agree with this, you know, you look at theosophy.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five was the year that the ascended Masters
Speaker 3: are the hierarchy of the Brotherhood of Hierarchy that was
Speaker 3: going to come down to Earth on twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: as they do. You know, I think she said every
Speaker 3: hundred years this happens, and that an interesting figure would
Speaker 3: be revealed in this year. And there's been a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff. Man, I don't know how many shows I've
Speaker 3: done about twenty twenty five, but oh my goodness, like
Speaker 3: this year has been unique and it still continues to
Speaker 3: be unique in a lot of ways. So no matter
Speaker 3: where you stand on that, I think everybody can agree
Speaker 3: we're coming to ahead of something.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I've done quite a few shows too,
Speaker 2: just on twenty twenty five, and we got into the
Speaker 2: whole Madame Levotski and Alice Bailey externalization of the hierarchy,
Speaker 2: and I've done it. The show was with this really
Speaker 2: great researcher. Her name was Chastity and she came on
Speaker 2: and kind of laid out some of her stuff. And
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the book now, but
Speaker 2: there was some kind of book about these guys talking
Speaker 2: about basically cycles and they've looked at history and all
Speaker 2: these repeating patterns and that's something really significant was going
Speaker 2: to happen in twenty twenty five, and of course she
Speaker 2: got Tom Horn. I read that book when it came out.
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty seventeen or something like that.
Speaker 2: It is a long time ago. But the Wormwood prophecies
Speaker 2: and had this dream about this astral and then right
Speaker 2: after that, you know, he says that the name of
Speaker 2: Popos came to him. And then NASA discovers this huge
Speaker 2: asteroid come in our way. They name it a Pofos,
Speaker 2: you know, and so he was talking about that, and
Speaker 2: so that thing was supposed to be I think it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be visible in our sky in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five or something like that, and then we have that
Speaker 2: where they called the Three eyed at lists. Now that
Speaker 2: there's thing could be a spaceship, but it wasn't supposed
Speaker 2: to hit I think into a it was I want
Speaker 2: to say it was Friday, April the thirteenth, like twenty
Speaker 2: twenty nine or something like that. And Tom was saying, so,
Speaker 2: if this is Wormwood, then Wormwood happened smack dab in
Speaker 2: the middle of the tribulation. So he was talking about
Speaker 2: timelines and stuff like that, and then Jamie Wilden, Man,
Speaker 2: have you just seen all his talks about that here recently?
Speaker 3: I've been trying to keep up, man, I haven't. I
Speaker 3: actually had Jamie on maybe like a month or two
Speaker 3: and we didn't talk about that, but I definitely would
Speaker 3: love to hear his take on that. I really do
Speaker 3: value some of his prophetic talks on those things. He
Speaker 3: does a great job. But I haven't heard what does
Speaker 3: he say on that?
Speaker 2: Well, see, I had him on the show. It was
Speaker 2: about two weeks ago, I think now. But he was
Speaker 2: talking about how what was it June or July when
Speaker 2: all the floods and stuff in Texas happened, and he
Speaker 2: talked about you know, a lot of people just focusing
Speaker 2: on that, he said, but when you go to looking online,
Speaker 2: he said, right around this time, he said, we had
Speaker 2: the flood in Texas, we had floods up north and
Speaker 2: like Chicago, out in the Philippines, he said, there's just
Speaker 2: so much flooding everywhere. That he said, the Lord told
Speaker 2: him it's the beginning of the birth pangs. The water
Speaker 2: has broken, the woman's about to deliver. And he's done
Speaker 2: so much research and talking about all the earthquakes that.
Speaker 4: We're just not hearing about.
Speaker 2: And he pulls up this website that you know, tracks
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and there's just thousands and thousands of
Speaker 2: earthquakes like every couple days, and how the Pacific rim
Speaker 2: is just lighting up and it's shaking that ring of
Speaker 2: fire and all those underwater volcanoes, and it's been a
Speaker 2: while since I looked at it, but it was like
Speaker 2: a month or so ago. But he was saying, like
Speaker 2: there's more active volcanoes in the world right now than
Speaker 2: any other time recorded, like at that time there was
Speaker 2: like eighty something active volcanoes. And he was just laying
Speaker 2: all that out. You know how Revelation talks about all
Speaker 2: that stuff. And even the magnetic poles from like July.
Speaker 2: I think it's either from June to July or July
Speaker 2: to August. But either way, it's just like a thirty
Speaker 2: day time frame. The magnetic pole had shifted I want
Speaker 2: to say five or six miles something like that. It
Speaker 2: was crazy towards Siberia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been shifting for a while too. I noticed.
Speaker 3: I remember talking about that. I think it was in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen maybe about how far this thing is shifted.
Speaker 3: It's crazy to think about because especially when you think
Speaker 3: about Graham. I think it's Graham Hancock's idea about the
Speaker 3: tilting of the axis causing basically a mass extinction level
Speaker 3: event to take place, which you know is possible. Actually,
Speaker 3: it might be Vilakowski that actually theorized that world's in collision.
Speaker 3: I believe, But yeah, dude, I mean, I did a
Speaker 3: broadcast about Leviathan and it's interesting because the research about
Speaker 3: the Pacific rim and about how all of these oarfish
Speaker 3: that are deep sea fish are appearing up and they
Speaker 3: call them doomsday fish in Japan. When they appeared this
Speaker 3: is when they had the big tsunamis and stuff. But
Speaker 3: they're appearing all over the beaches on like California and
Speaker 3: other parts of these Pacific rim areas. And man, I
Speaker 3: wish I had the graphic to show you right now,
Speaker 3: but I'll have to send it to you, so maybe
Speaker 3: you can just look at it. But there's this what
Speaker 3: looks like this giant snake that goes all the way
Speaker 3: around the Pacific grim it goes all the way down
Speaker 3: underneath South America, and it's called Drake's Passage. And if
Speaker 3: you look at it and you pull it up on
Speaker 3: Google Earth, you'll see what looks like this giant snake
Speaker 3: head there. And if you look at like pythons, pythons
Speaker 3: have these nostril holes that they all have. They're like
Speaker 3: a bunch of little holes that kind of surround the nostril.
Speaker 3: Well right there where it looks like this in Drake's Passage,
Speaker 3: which Drake is a name for like Draco, a serpent
Speaker 3: whatever this is. The Serpent mountains were aligned to Draco constellation.
Speaker 3: Well on these little pits on the nose I showed
Speaker 3: on this video where they are all of these are
Speaker 3: like little volcanoes, like little spots where what it would
Speaker 3: look like on a python's nose. And I mean this
Speaker 3: looks dead up like a python said. And if you
Speaker 3: trace the entire line of this, it goes all the
Speaker 3: way up down the side of America, all the way
Speaker 3: up through North Pole and everything through there. It looks
Speaker 3: like this giant serpent that's kind of embedded into the
Speaker 3: ground there and there's that's where all of that stuff's happened.
Speaker 3: Drake's passage is one of the most treacherous. It is
Speaker 3: the most treacherous place in the world for shippers to be.
Speaker 3: And when you look and line up versus of the
Speaker 3: Bible with like Leviathan, it says that you make the
Speaker 3: you make the oceans, or you make the waters like
Speaker 3: a bolt boiling pot where you lay and you you
Speaker 3: cause like basically it almost like talks like lava and
Speaker 3: fire coming from your from you, and you have all
Speaker 3: of these different things that make you think like what
Speaker 3: I'm looking out here might be what's described. And then
Speaker 3: in Genesis God has to separate the Leviathan and the
Speaker 3: Behemoth because the waters couldn't hold couldn't hold them together.
Speaker 3: And so it makes you wonder, like how big is
Speaker 3: this Leviathan? Is this what we're looking at? Is this
Speaker 3: what it talks about when it talks about Leviathan stirring
Speaker 3: or waking up. We're already filling the Leviathan spirit, I think.
Speaker 3: But you have this physical looking creature that where all
Speaker 3: of these things are taking place, just starting to pop up.
Speaker 3: It feels like and move and I don't know, there's more,
Speaker 3: there's more research on it. I just saw today people
Speaker 3: were talking about more stuff going on around that Drake's
Speaker 3: passage and I wanted to look it up. I didn't
Speaker 3: get a chance to actually see what they're talking about,
Speaker 3: but if you look at it, you'll see what You'll
Speaker 3: see what I mean, it's pretty pretty amazing, and it
Speaker 3: could just be all signs, it could be nothing, but
Speaker 3: it just feels like there's something to it.
Speaker 2: You know, too many things that are, you know, lining
Speaker 2: up to be coincidents. And I know I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that that Charlie Kirk, you know, was a prophet or
Speaker 2: anything like that, but honestly, when I've heard about this today,
Speaker 2: like one of the thoughts that come in my mind
Speaker 2: was the two witnesses, because the we're living in is
Speaker 2: kind of looking like that. I mean, if you look
Speaker 2: at I'm not saying this guy was a saint, but
Speaker 2: he was a Christian. He was out there proclaiming Christ,
Speaker 2: you know, on this huge platform, had all this you know,
Speaker 2: the followers and influencers, and was going all these places
Speaker 2: and talking about Christ. There's been so many videos and
Speaker 2: clips out about him and spreading this truth of the Gospel.
Speaker 2: And they killed him for it. And that's what we
Speaker 2: see that happens to the two Witnesses at the end
Speaker 2: times that they go and travel to the towns and
Speaker 2: stand out in the streets and proclaim the Gospel and
Speaker 2: they kill him for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, it it just seems so it seems
Speaker 3: like that's probably what it means when Jesus says, pick
Speaker 3: up your cross and follow me. And we it's hard
Speaker 3: for us to imagine that because we've never really been
Speaker 3: in a time where Christianity has been so hard on
Speaker 3: the chopping block in our country. But when you go
Speaker 3: to other countries, man, it's like this is the reality
Speaker 3: of how they live, you know, they live day to day.
Speaker 3: I when we were in Lebanon, I stayed with the
Speaker 3: guy for We stayed with him for a few days
Speaker 3: and there were he was actually looking for shelter because
Speaker 3: he had converted to Christianity and his wife's family wanted
Speaker 3: to kill him, and his family wanted to kill him,
Speaker 3: so he had to kind of hide out. And so
Speaker 3: he was hiding out where we were staying, uh fur there,
Speaker 3: and then we went ahead and went because we went
Speaker 3: ahead and went to another place because we didn't want
Speaker 3: to bring him around everywhere we were going, just because
Speaker 3: we're like, you know, if we for with this guy,
Speaker 3: when we're bringing him out, we my zone, the danger zone.
Speaker 3: So we let him stay there in that apartment. We
Speaker 3: went out and did our thing. But yeah, dude, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is the reality for people people in Africa getting
Speaker 3: slayd by you know, Muslims that hate them, and it
Speaker 3: goes on like that in every country. I mean, you
Speaker 3: have this kind of same scenario breaking out, and then
Speaker 3: you even have the immigrant crisis that they have going
Speaker 3: on in Germany and England and even in London. It's amazing,
Speaker 3: you know, Like when when we went over to Germany,
Speaker 3: when I was over there, I just was just last year.
Speaker 3: The main city was Frankfurt was not very safe at
Speaker 3: the moment. There was like a riot kind of thing
Speaker 3: going on, Trash all over the streets and some riots
Speaker 3: going down, and so we went to Heidelberg to stay
Speaker 3: for a couple of days because we're like, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I don't want to be in
Speaker 3: the middle of all that, Like I have no idea
Speaker 3: what's going on. I don't want to get caught up
Speaker 3: in some accidental crisis, you know that is there. So
Speaker 3: we were planned on staying in Heidelberg just because it's
Speaker 3: it's a nice little area. But the remnant of this
Speaker 3: even in Heidelberg was growing. And I mean, these are beautiful, beautiful,
Speaker 3: unique towns in Germany. They just have beautiful castles and
Speaker 3: wonderful cultures. Mark Twain stayed at the place that we
Speaker 3: actually roomed in, Like he literally stayed there overlooking the courtyard,
Speaker 3: and we stayed in that same room. We could hear,
Speaker 3: you know, the German people out there singing their anthems
Speaker 3: at the middle of the night. At midnight, it's like
Speaker 3: light out there. But there's still the element of antifa
Speaker 3: corners where you know, it says basically tells you not
Speaker 3: to go there. I me and my friend, you know,
Speaker 3: of course, wanted to travel through and check it all out.
Speaker 3: But then you have immigrants that own like half the
Speaker 3: businesses on there, and they you can tell there's a
Speaker 3: hostility and strange, man, strange the way the world is
Speaker 3: heading America. I feel like we've been, at least where
Speaker 3: I live and probably where you live. To you live
Speaker 3: in East Tennessee, somewhat sheltered from a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean where I live in Indiana. I mean, people
Speaker 3: here are great, man, They're salt of the earth type people,
Speaker 3: most of the people I know, not everybody obviously, but
Speaker 3: they'll do whatever. They'll give you the shore off your back.
Speaker 3: If you need help, they're gonna help. And your neighbors
Speaker 3: take care of each other and stuff like that. I
Speaker 3: live in an environ like that, but I know that
Speaker 3: this isn't the reality for everybody. Man, And like we
Speaker 3: see this now portrayed for all of us to see.
Speaker 3: Who are who like an environment of peace? And we
Speaker 3: like an environment of some sort of civilization, to where
Speaker 3: people are civilized enough to respect each other and you know,
Speaker 3: not hurt each other and be able to agree to
Speaker 3: disagree on things and yet still have relationships and help
Speaker 3: each other like humans should do rather than animals. We
Speaker 3: still see that, but this kind of portrays something that
Speaker 3: almost feels like like you're talking about the two witness
Speaker 3: type thing, Like it's almost like the sacrifice of that
Speaker 3: type person kind of happened. It feels like it happened live.
Speaker 3: It feels like a and I don't even know, like
Speaker 3: I said, I don't even know the guy that well,
Speaker 3: Like I just I know of some of the things
Speaker 3: he had. Now I felt like this this weird feeling
Speaker 3: like this represented something in some way, shape or form. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: the two witness thing is interesting because you're not the
Speaker 3: first person I've heard that say something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And well, honestly, what got me was I was
Speaker 2: thinking the same thing. But I had a friend of
Speaker 2: mine and uh, he reached out to me on Instagram
Speaker 2: and we got like a little group chat, me and
Speaker 2: my my buddies at podcasts and we all are Christian
Speaker 2: you know, podcasters, and he was like, you, guys, hear
Speaker 2: about Charlie Kirk And he was like yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, boys, he said, if he said,
Speaker 2: if it has slipped your mind, he said, this should
Speaker 2: be a stark reminder of how dangerous it is what
Speaker 2: we do, he said, and.
Speaker 4: You got it. He said, you have to ask yourself.
Speaker 2: You know, he said, we all pray that that we
Speaker 2: don't wind up like Charlie, But what we do, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a high likelihood.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Are you willing to pay the ultimate price too, to
Speaker 2: speak truth and call out you know, darkness and weakness
Speaker 2: and boldly standing your ground like he did, because I mean,
Speaker 2: you can say you agree with him or you don't
Speaker 2: agree with him, but you cannot say that that man
Speaker 2: was not bold. He said what he said and stood
Speaker 2: where he stood, and whether you liked it or not.
Speaker 2: And you know, with that kind of viewpoint, it's like,
Speaker 2: did that thought ever cross your mind? John, or does
Speaker 2: that ever cross your mind? Like you know, how you
Speaker 2: doing what I'm doing, there might be some crazy person,
Speaker 2: you know, try to to take me out.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a you know, it sleeps our mind
Speaker 2: a lot of times, but I mean that's a stark reality.
Speaker 3: I know that there's been people mad enough at me
Speaker 3: to do it. Like I mean, I get some emails
Speaker 3: that I'm just like, man, this person literally hates me
Speaker 3: and wants nothing more than to see me dead or
Speaker 3: just remembered, you know, like they just horrifying type stuff
Speaker 3: they say, you know, and I and now saying the
Speaker 3: things and translating into doing them are two different things.
Speaker 3: So I've seen and I've I've been threatened by people
Speaker 3: that are definitely a real threat in real life before
Speaker 3: I started doing all of these things. You know, people
Speaker 3: that are a real threat, they actually will follow through,
Speaker 3: they if they were to get their hands on me
Speaker 3: type thing. And so seeing this makes me a little
Speaker 3: bit more aware that it's a possibility that some of
Speaker 3: these guys might actually follow through that are just emailing
Speaker 3: or there might be demons in them, that this might
Speaker 3: be go time for them to do something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Like you know, when we did
Speaker 3: Spiracy con and we do conferences like that, I realized
Speaker 3: that there's always that possibility. I really do, because you know,
Speaker 3: when we're doing stuff like this is a lot less
Speaker 3: of a possibility can still happen, but a lot less
Speaker 3: of a possibility of this happening. But when we actually
Speaker 3: put ourselves on physical ground to where we make ourselves
Speaker 3: available physically to these monstrous creatures that are dwelling in
Speaker 3: people's hearts and minds, it could very well turn into
Speaker 3: something like that. But I've thought about this long and
Speaker 3: hard Man. I've thought about this, and I did live
Speaker 3: a pretty you know, I would say that my life
Speaker 3: was intensely bad before I started following Christ and started doing,
Speaker 3: you know, doing the things that I want to do
Speaker 3: for him, the good thing. I want to do good things.
Speaker 3: I want to help people. I want to love people.
Speaker 3: I want to try to do something. I want people
Speaker 3: to say thank you God because of their interactual met
Speaker 3: I want them to feel that like I did something
Speaker 3: and God was the reason for that person. That's what
Speaker 3: I want. I don't I don't want the opposite. I
Speaker 3: don't want people to feel like, you know, God hates
Speaker 3: them because of me, or Satan's you know, dwelling in
Speaker 3: their life because of me. You know. That's what I
Speaker 3: want to do more of my life like that than
Speaker 3: I did the other way. Not because I have to
Speaker 3: for salvation, but because I want to. I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm obliged as a son of God to do such
Speaker 3: a thing instead of living in that other way. But like,
Speaker 3: I can't think of a probably more noble way to die.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to die that way. Because I
Speaker 3: have children, I don't want them to be fatherless. But
Speaker 3: I know ultimately God has a plan for them as well.
Speaker 3: But I can't think I would rather die that way
Speaker 3: than maybe like sickly in a bed one day because
Speaker 3: I ate to me cheetohs in life or something, or
Speaker 3: or from just old old age, you know, dying of
Speaker 3: some kind of you know, crappy, slow moving disease. I
Speaker 3: think to be counted worthy, to be considered an enemy
Speaker 3: on the level that you have to be taken out
Speaker 3: just seems so cool, seems so bad to the bone,
Speaker 3: you know, like you're you're literally the system literally had
Speaker 3: to take you right on out of this thing. Bro.
Speaker 3: Like that's wow. You know, that's like Jesus level stuff.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not something that everybody gets to say
Speaker 3: they've accomplished. It's really not. It's really really not. And
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to get to that level.
Speaker 3: But man, that Charlie Kirk did it, I think, and
Speaker 3: whether no matter what we believe about it, like you said,
Speaker 3: the man had guts and he spoke and he said
Speaker 3: what he felt like he wanted to say, and he
Speaker 3: his life ended up being over for it. But man,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I think we should all
Speaker 3: be willing to do what's right, no matter the cost,
Speaker 3: especially if you really believe that we have eternal life.
Speaker 3: Because if you really believe that you have eternal life,
Speaker 3: really does it even matter, you know, in the long run,
Speaker 3: because by the time you're dead and realize what's going on,
Speaker 3: like everybody you loved is going to be right there
Speaker 3: back again, because it's because we're living in a endless reality,
Speaker 3: especially when you're lived forever, because you are, you know, forgiven,
Speaker 3: forgiven by the blood. You know, that's a really important
Speaker 3: aspect this man, We have to be forgiven and realize
Speaker 3: that this life is there's more to this than just
Speaker 3: being successful here. If it was all about seeing being
Speaker 3: successful here, then what good is it? You know, what's
Speaker 3: the point? Because I see successful people ending themselves really quickly,
Speaker 3: you know, eventually once they get there. I see them
Speaker 3: struggling with depression. Some of the richest people that I know,
Speaker 3: like I'm talking, I only know a couple, but billionaires
Speaker 3: that are just shells of people. Man, they don't even
Speaker 3: you know, they're just shells and not happy and they're
Speaker 3: trying to achieve happiness. But they didn't realize they probably
Speaker 3: had that back before all of this money, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like they're trying to get all this to get something,
Speaker 3: just to get people that love them around them and stuff,
Speaker 3: and they kind of go the backwards way around it
Speaker 3: all to make it happen. I think that we think
Speaker 3: people will love us more we have more money, but ultimately,
Speaker 3: you know, if we're not happy before we have money,
Speaker 3: or if we're not a person who is loving before
Speaker 3: all of that, then we will never be that person.
Speaker 3: I don't because you can't attain it the other way.
Speaker 3: That's why when the Bible says SEEKI first the Kingdom
Speaker 3: of God, and and then all these things will be
Speaker 3: added to you. Like I believe it really means that.
Speaker 3: Like I remember thinking so many times i'd be and
Speaker 3: just as just a old YouTubers remembering the early days. Okay, so.
Speaker 4: When I used to do used to Banjo's play, He's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's.
Speaker 4: We used to work out.
Speaker 3: Well, this is kind of like that, man. I felt
Speaker 3: like that. So there was a time period when I
Speaker 3: was doing a record label thing and I knew God
Speaker 3: was telling me I had to leave because there was
Speaker 3: things about it that there were kind of a a
Speaker 3: red line for me. Like I was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to cross that line. This is something that
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to bend on at this moment in
Speaker 3: my life. And so I'm going to I'm going to
Speaker 3: get away from all this. And so I remember thinking
Speaker 3: to God, I was like, you know, crying, really kind
Speaker 3: of crying out. I'm like, Father, like, I know I'm
Speaker 3: made to do something for you, but I just really
Speaker 3: don't even know what it is. Like I know that
Speaker 3: that I got to do something. You got it on
Speaker 3: my heart. You got this crazy anxiety. I got this
Speaker 3: crazy anxiety, and you're you're pushing me towards something, and
Speaker 3: I don't even know what it is. And I was like,
Speaker 3: just let me know what's going on here. And so
Speaker 3: I remember the YouTube thing kind of coming along. I
Speaker 3: was doing little videos, you know, prior to this, for
Speaker 3: local television people's testimonies. It was called Revelation twelve to eleven.
Speaker 3: And you might even be able to find some of
Speaker 3: those on YouTube. I have no idea, hope not. I'm
Speaker 3: not even on them. I'm just filming it. I'm just
Speaker 3: filming these testimonies, but they're out there somewhere. And so
Speaker 3: I'm crying out to God. I'm like you know what
Speaker 3: do I do here? Like, I don't even know. And
Speaker 3: as soon as I open my scriptures opened the Bible,
Speaker 3: that verse comes, you know, seek you first the Kingdom
Speaker 3: of God, and then all these things will be added
Speaker 3: unto you. And so then I went back in that chapter,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is he talking about? All these things
Speaker 3: will be added unto you? And I realized it said
Speaker 3: it was talking about don't worry about what you either drink,
Speaker 3: you know God or God prepares even you know these
Speaker 3: even the foxes are I can't remember all the different ones,
Speaker 3: but all of these different things, like I take care
Speaker 3: of all these things, like seek you first, the Kingdom
Speaker 3: of God, and then all these things are going to
Speaker 3: be added to you. And so like I remember thinking that,
Speaker 3: like I just need to like buckle down and really
Speaker 3: focus in on who is God? Who am I? Like,
Speaker 3: really need to understand this and in a way that
Speaker 3: is going to make sense to me. And I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean you take sometimes it takes time. Of course,
Speaker 3: you look at look at the timeframe of how long
Speaker 3: things take sometimes. But now looking back, I'm forty almost
Speaker 3: forty three years old, started doing it in twenty ten,
Speaker 3: twenty ten, but I really didn't start harder until later.
Speaker 3: But like, you go back that time and I think
Speaker 3: about all the time different things took. But I look
Speaker 3: now at a snapshot of all that and I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: it went like that. And if I would have had
Speaker 3: like instant growth quickly, then I probably would have fallen.
Speaker 3: I probably would have fallen right on my face because
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known how to handle the growth. I
Speaker 3: would have not known how to handle all of the
Speaker 3: whatever the praise. You know, you got a lot of
Speaker 3: praise and you get a lot of hate too. You
Speaker 3: get both of those, and if you don't know how
Speaker 3: to handle both of those, it can be detrimental as well.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known how to handle anything. I would
Speaker 3: have just been like, WHOA, I've got all this cool
Speaker 3: stuff here, God's given me at all. But but what
Speaker 3: I've noticed is growing slowly across the board and just
Speaker 3: slowly moving throughout the years, like I've been able to
Speaker 3: like hit different levels and kind of see where what
Speaker 3: those levels entail and how to you know, kind of
Speaker 3: navigate that. Man and humility is a big part of
Speaker 3: this too, And I think that a lot of us
Speaker 3: were very blessed in the ability to not be famous.
Speaker 3: I think that. I think that a lot of people think,
Speaker 3: oh man, I'd love to be famous. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I think some of us are just blessed not to
Speaker 3: be because the kind of stuff people have to sacrifice,
Speaker 3: the kind of stuff people have to to put forward
Speaker 3: in order to be at those highest, highest levels. I
Speaker 3: don't you know. I mean, I don't think I'm willing
Speaker 3: to do those things. I don't even know what those
Speaker 3: things are. But it's like some of those things, God
Speaker 3: puts us at levels where we need to be. But
Speaker 3: but like I said before, I think the whole point
Speaker 3: of what I was trying to say is like I'm
Speaker 3: I'm willing. I'm willing to throw me, throw me out there,
Speaker 3: hear mice in me. I know you're the same way.
Speaker 3: Like I'm willing to go and to the highest levels
Speaker 3: and say what needs to be said. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: you are too. We all should be there. I think
Speaker 3: we all should be in that mode to be able
Speaker 3: to be like you know, I'm willing to say what
Speaker 3: needs to be said. Of course, within reason, some people
Speaker 3: will be complete use that and just be a complete
Speaker 3: jerk and you know, do whatever. But I'm saying like
Speaker 3: the right things, like Charlie Kirk, he did a lot
Speaker 3: of the he was like trying to be a voice
Speaker 3: for young people and these liberal universities where they're getting
Speaker 3: toad horrible things. He was trying to do something to
Speaker 3: be a light in that situation. And I think what
Speaker 3: all I was trying to say. I don't know, I'm tired, bro,
Speaker 3: I've I've had to Like after Anspiracy Con, I went
Speaker 3: tent camping for three nights, all right, tent camping up
Speaker 3: near the near in Michigan, and then I went from
Speaker 3: there to Tennessee. I just got back the other day
Speaker 3: and like it's been one of those times where I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: I really feel like I'm running a race, and and
Speaker 3: I don't want to stop. I don't want to slow down.
Speaker 3: But so if I start rambling about something, forgive me.
Speaker 3: But I think it was just all of this to
Speaker 3: say like pick up your cross and follow him, do
Speaker 3: the best you can, and all of these things, because
Speaker 3: it really, ultimately we only get a chance, we get
Speaker 3: in a chance to like prove I don't know, I
Speaker 3: look at it as like I'm getting a chance to
Speaker 3: see what I can do on this earth. Like I
Speaker 3: I maybe I don't even know like what the rules
Speaker 3: were before I came, if there were any rules explained
Speaker 3: to me, which I if there were, I don't remember them.
Speaker 3: But you know, I do know that there are rules
Speaker 3: that I see, guidelines that I see through the Bible.
Speaker 3: And I look at that and I'm thinking, Okay, Like
Speaker 3: if I were playing a video game right now, would
Speaker 3: I just be sitting there at like a lump on
Speaker 3: the log, you know, if I'm playing GTA seven or whatever,
Speaker 3: if there is a gt there's not even GTS seven yet.
Speaker 3: But if I'm playing one of these games, am I
Speaker 3: going to go out there and try to hustle and
Speaker 3: make it happen? Or am I going to be like
Speaker 3: a CPU guy that's just kind of walking around talking
Speaker 3: to himself and going along. We're doing the same you
Speaker 3: can drive down the same road, see him down the
Speaker 3: same street every day. Or am I gonna like do
Speaker 3: something that's gonna push and try. I mean, I want
Speaker 3: to do something, you know, I don't want to be
Speaker 3: the the uh in what do they call them? MPCs?
Speaker 3: And I know I think we should all. I have
Speaker 3: to do something, even if it's even if it's just
Speaker 3: something a little different than the norm. I feel like
Speaker 3: we should all be like using our life that we've
Speaker 3: been given to do that. Man, I mean, even if
Speaker 3: we don't think our life's been that great. I look
Speaker 3: back on me and I'm like, man, there could have.
Speaker 3: Like there's better people than me. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: people that are just way better than me. Better looking
Speaker 3: than me, but more athletic than me, stronger than me,
Speaker 3: probably more charismatic than me. Even there's being I mean,
Speaker 3: I think of myself as like somebody who knows how
Speaker 3: to talk to people or whatever. But there's people out
Speaker 3: there that are just naturals. You know, they've been doing
Speaker 3: it their whole life. And I'm thinking, like how much
Speaker 3: further can I get than that person that way better
Speaker 3: than me? Like this person's way like they've got it
Speaker 3: all bro, Like they've got all these things. But can
Speaker 3: I outsurpass what they're doing based off God's blessed Yeah,
Speaker 3: they squander it? Like can we pass this based on
Speaker 3: what God's blessed us with and not just what the
Speaker 3: world sees as successful successful things? Like I mean, I
Speaker 3: get I take joy in being able to allow God
Speaker 3: to be my praise point. Like I you know, even
Speaker 3: I did this, Like people a lot of times people
Speaker 3: are like, man, if John John can do this, I
Speaker 3: know I can do it. You know, Like I like
Speaker 3: that because they don't really see what God is able
Speaker 3: to do. They think that, you know, everything is just
Speaker 3: simple or whatever. But God is the one who gets
Speaker 3: glory for everything that I do. I know that. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna take the smallest bit of credit.
Speaker 3: The only reason I have ambition to do what I'm
Speaker 3: doing is because of God. Otherwise I'd be doing something
Speaker 3: that makes a lot of money. That's where I would
Speaker 3: be put my faith in if I wasn't doing things
Speaker 3: for God. So he's the one that gives me the
Speaker 3: ambition to speak to you. And without him, I'm just
Speaker 3: another money chasing guy out there that you know doesn't
Speaker 3: do anything but be an MPC. I guess in this world,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And that's something to you, is you know, don't don't
Speaker 2: be crippled by fear. You know, so many of us
Speaker 2: are crippled by fear, and that can manifest in so
Speaker 2: many different ways. I mean, you know, speaking curses on yourself,
Speaker 2: even not just externally but internally. You know, you're not
Speaker 2: good enough, you're not smart enough, you're not good looking enough.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't speak well enough, any of those enoughs.
Speaker 2: Or I'm afraid of what this person's gonna think of me,
Speaker 2: or how they're going to look at me, or what
Speaker 2: they're going to say about me.
Speaker 4: Does this person like me?
Speaker 2: Or you know, if I say this, you know, all
Speaker 2: that stuff, it just it's it's fear, and it cripples people,
Speaker 2: and it keeps you from doing what God has planned
Speaker 2: for you, because I believe, honestly, he puts these desires
Speaker 2: in your heart for a reason, and it gives you
Speaker 2: your passions for a reason. And so you're to do
Speaker 2: those and to get in that lane and run in
Speaker 2: that lane the best you can and use it for
Speaker 2: his glory and to build his kingdom. Less Brown loved
Speaker 2: that man. Listened to a lot of his stuff, his
Speaker 2: motivational speeches and stuff. But one thing that honestly really
Speaker 2: sticks out to me, and he spoke to this. He said,
Speaker 2: a lot of treasure hunters, he said, go and buy
Speaker 2: these expensive maps, he said, and these detectors metal detectors,
Speaker 2: and go out search and so you know, hard for
Speaker 2: all these ancient sites and try to find this treasure
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, he said. He said, I can
Speaker 2: tell him right now, he said, We're the most treasure
Speaker 2: in the world is he said, that's a graveyard, he said,
Speaker 2: because those are filled with people that was crippled by
Speaker 2: fear and died with so many great ideas, so many
Speaker 2: great inventions, so many great books, influential speakers, just all
Speaker 2: these things, he said. The graveyards, he said, are filled
Speaker 2: with most valuable things in the world. But they took
Speaker 2: it to the grave with him because they let fear
Speaker 2: cripple them.
Speaker 4: And just like we do.
Speaker 2: You know, we can people I guess could easily look
Speaker 2: at what happened to Charlie Kirk today and be like, dude,
Speaker 2: it ain't worth it. I'm just I'm closing up shop.
Speaker 2: It ain't worth me losing my life over and and
Speaker 2: if we do that, that's letting fear gripple us. We
Speaker 2: you know, we should never let fear gripple us, because
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the other devil, you know, was the
Speaker 2: scripture say, you know, uh, fear is not of.
Speaker 3: God, absolutely man. And I think that a lot of
Speaker 3: people too, like just because you know, you look at
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk and here. You may not even be able
Speaker 3: to act on his level. Anyway. I don't think any
Speaker 3: of us could act on his level. He was. He
Speaker 3: was very good at what he did. He could debate anybody.
Speaker 3: But sometimes our job isn't really just to be right,
Speaker 3: it's just to be there for people in all of
Speaker 3: these things. Man, I've noticed that people are really responsive
Speaker 3: to like just people that love them and treat them real.
Speaker 3: Not always, but in some parts of the world, literally
Speaker 3: thousands upon thousands, if not millions, of people are putting
Speaker 3: their faith in Jesus. It's crazy because in America you
Speaker 3: see almost like the other way around. Sometimes it feels
Speaker 3: like anyway you know, there is a revival I think
Speaker 3: taking place, but it just media wized and stuff. You
Speaker 3: don't see it happening. But people are responding to that,
Speaker 3: like responding to it in other countries especially, And so
Speaker 3: I think that it's important for us to play a
Speaker 3: part in somebody's life, man, I really do. I said
Speaker 3: this earlier, but like to be able for somebody to say, like,
Speaker 3: praise God because of what you've done for them is
Speaker 3: a powerful thing. Man. I'll never forget the guy that
Speaker 3: felt a prompt he told me he came and visited
Speaker 3: me in jail. And this is after I had prayed
Speaker 3: to God and said, like, you know, show me that
Speaker 3: you care about me. I'll and I'll serve you forever.
Speaker 3: I just need to know you care, like I want
Speaker 3: to know. I'm tired of my way. This is what
Speaker 3: I said. And then this guy that's a detective said,
Speaker 3: God told me to come pray for you. Joan. I
Speaker 3: was in bed with my wife and God told me
Speaker 3: to come and pray for you. And he's like, it
Speaker 3: sounds crazy, But it didn't sound crazy to me. It
Speaker 3: sounded like that God was interacting with somebody else on
Speaker 3: my behalf to bring them to a place where I
Speaker 3: could see that he did care about what was going
Speaker 3: on in my life. And so I always think about
Speaker 3: that when I see somebody that is in need. Do
Speaker 3: you think about it, like think man, like maybe they
Speaker 3: were just asking God for help. I mean, if you're
Speaker 3: if I was in need, this is what I'd be doing.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, God, please like help me out, like
Speaker 3: I'm I'm in a place of bad things right now.
Speaker 3: I'm bad. And then somebody just coming along and saying, listen, look,
Speaker 3: I can see that you're in a bad place right now.
Speaker 3: Let me help you in the name of God. Like
Speaker 3: God's given me this excess, and I want to help
Speaker 3: you because I feel like God wants me to help you,
Speaker 3: and that right there could be enough to really just
Speaker 3: make somebody say Praise God. And ultimately in Matthew, when
Speaker 3: he separates the sheep from the goats, he doesn't say, like, man,
Speaker 3: you did a great job of speaking to all those people.
Speaker 3: You got them all hype. Did you see how hype
Speaker 3: they were? John, that was cool the way they said, live, Live, Live.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna say that. He's gonna say, like what
Speaker 3: he says in the Book of Matthew. He says, when
Speaker 3: I was hungry, you gave me food. When when I
Speaker 3: was in prison, you came and visited me, you know,
Speaker 3: visiting the orphans, doing all the different things that are
Speaker 3: being the hands and feet of Christ. That's what it
Speaker 3: means to be a believer. It doesn't always mean to
Speaker 3: be a Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's great, but he's one
Speaker 3: of a kind. There's not a lot of people like him.
Speaker 3: Some people can do it, some people can't. We're not
Speaker 3: all gifted in that arena. But I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: change my life. It wasn't a Charlie Kirk. It was
Speaker 3: somebody just being straight up obedient and telling me God
Speaker 3: told me to come and pray for you in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night, pull you out of your jail
Speaker 3: cell and pray for you. Like that's all it took,
Speaker 3: and that was enough to change my life. It wasn't
Speaker 3: an argument, it wasn't a debate. It was like, God
Speaker 3: put me in the right place at the right time,
Speaker 3: and so like, you guys could have more of an
Speaker 3: impact than me and justin me and Justin speak thousands
Speaker 3: of people a week, but and so did Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3: He spoke to millions probably, But you guys could have
Speaker 3: more influence on your family, friends, and maybe not even them,
Speaker 3: maybe people you don't even know, probably people you don't
Speaker 3: even know more just by being a light to the world.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how that man, it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people like to look at themselves metaphorically,
Speaker 2: you know, like you're a stone laying on the beach
Speaker 2: of this great lake and you're like, oh, I'm just
Speaker 2: this little stone. What could I do? But now that
Speaker 2: one stone, you know, that's Kentry. Boy, we know how
Speaker 2: to skip rock. You know, you get that rock, man,
Speaker 2: that thing will bounce four or five times and go
Speaker 2: halfway across the lake. And what happens every little time
Speaker 2: that thanks skips, it just sends that ripples. It goes
Speaker 2: all the way to the edge. So one little thing,
Speaker 2: one little rock, caused a lot of ripples and affect
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I ain't gonna keep you. I
Speaker 2: know it's getting late, and you said you was getting
Speaker 2: tired and stuff, and like I said.
Speaker 3: Mom, I'm always tried to slay dude. I'm an early
Speaker 3: bird sometimes, like I get up early and like so
Speaker 3: like by.
Speaker 4: The time I'm every day.
Speaker 3: Oh so you know, I don't see how you do
Speaker 3: it then, because man, oh man, that's early early one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Riley from Midwest Mythos and Steven from Biblical hit Man,
Speaker 2: they come up to Spiracy con with me. They got
Speaker 2: to experience the old man. I've told them, but I
Speaker 2: guess they just didn't believe me. We got back, you know,
Speaker 2: because we're I mean, we were going hard man sun
Speaker 2: up to sundown. Man, you did a banger of an event.
Speaker 2: What we didn't get home the long day flock at night,
Speaker 2: and so by the time we got back and maybe
Speaker 2: got a couple of pieces of pizza and stuff, and
Speaker 2: it was like, all right, boys, I'm going to bed.
Speaker 4: They're like, are you serious. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm serious.
Speaker 3: I hear you, brother. So you guys, you guys were like, hey,
Speaker 3: come over. I was like, man, I really want to,
Speaker 3: but I am an old man. I plus I had
Speaker 3: my son with me. I was like, I'm I'm normally
Speaker 3: in bed, you know, like I was. And I was
Speaker 3: trash from being there. You know, we went there like
Speaker 3: two days before and we're kind of setting up, so
Speaker 3: we were we were worn out too. It was a
Speaker 3: long day.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Next time, I think we'll make the days a little
Speaker 3: bit shorter.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But man, it was. It was. It was a great time,
Speaker 3: and it was really cool to meet you and all
Speaker 3: the other people. I just was really impressed about how
Speaker 3: like all these people were able to just kind of
Speaker 3: come together and really have a great time. Man. There
Speaker 3: was a lot of I don't even know if you
Speaker 3: knew some of this stuff, but there was even like
Speaker 3: somebody at this place that manifested like a demon at
Speaker 3: this Do you know about this? No, did you hear Oh,
Speaker 3: you didn't hear that there was somebody? Did you hear
Speaker 3: the screaming going on towards the end?
Speaker 4: Huh huh?
Speaker 3: I mean I'm talking about absolute screaming, guts out screaming,
Speaker 3: Like there was a lady that just started manifesting, bro,
Speaker 3: And they were like, and I was even like, towards
Speaker 3: the end, towards the midnight ride, towards the very end
Speaker 3: of it, they were still praying for this lady in
Speaker 3: the back room back there, and she was screaming and
Speaker 3: probably people thought it was kids screaming and playing around,
Speaker 3: but she was literally like manifesting for like three hours
Speaker 3: back there. And I never Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think that Mike Edwards's wife ended up, you know, finally
Speaker 3: praying over her and the demon being released from this lady.
Speaker 3: But wild stuff brought aspiracy con that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, it was nuts. I've witnessed at another events before.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anything like that happen at the
Speaker 3: end the events you've been to?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't, but I've heard stories and stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, one that stands out to me was Ala
Speaker 2: mar Zouli was talking about he was a conference in
Speaker 2: Orlando and said that basically the guy just started, Man,
Speaker 2: he went to go use the bathroom, and basically the
Speaker 2: guy was in the style and then he just started,
Speaker 2: you know, screaming and going nuts and like broke the
Speaker 2: door down and was just manifacing up there in the bathroom.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean that's wild.
Speaker 3: It's wild.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: This happened at another when I was at a tick
Speaker 3: on the World conference in twenty nineteen. It happened there too. Man.
Speaker 3: There's a squirrel that was literally rubbing her face into
Speaker 3: the concrete and the gravel, like over and over again,
Speaker 3: like like having this guttural growl going on, you know,
Speaker 3: like and just rubbing her face, and like it was crazy. Man.
Speaker 3: I grabbed her because, like I felt, everybody was really scared.
Speaker 3: I feel like everybody was because most people don't want
Speaker 3: to touch her. But like it was crazy because there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people around when this is happening. And
Speaker 3: I heard this voice in my head saying, perfect love,
Speaker 3: cast out all fear, and so when I heard that,
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm not afraid. Somebody's talking to
Speaker 3: me and it's a good sign. It's a good thing.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't afraid anymore. So I went and grabbed
Speaker 3: her by the head and she looked at me and like,
Speaker 3: you know, she could. It was kind of crazy, but
Speaker 3: I was like, are you do you want to be free?
Speaker 3: And like her voice barely slips out. You could tell
Speaker 3: the growling was like going, but her voice was slipping out,
Speaker 3: and she's like, yes, it hurts, it hurts. I want
Speaker 3: to be free. And I said, do you accept Jesus?
Speaker 3: And she's like yes, and so I was like, I
Speaker 3: cast it out and the name of Jesus, and actually
Speaker 3: I said, you're Shua and the name of your Shua
Speaker 3: and then boom gone and she gets up off the
Speaker 3: ground and people clean her up and she goes in
Speaker 3: there and all of that. But dude, that's that's two
Speaker 3: out of the conferences I've been to that that's happening.
Speaker 3: And it's weird. I don't know what manifested, but I
Speaker 3: was overeating across the whole property and people were screaming
Speaker 3: like hey, come over here, help help, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 3: this is nuts. Bro. Like you see sometimes these conferences,
Speaker 3: people manifest because it's almost like the demon either either
Speaker 3: the demon doesn't want to be there or like something
Speaker 3: leads them and the demons like trying to leave or
Speaker 3: something like that. I don't know what happens, but dude,
Speaker 3: is the first tract too? Yeah, disrupt Well, interesting enough.
Speaker 3: The lady that manifested was complaining. She was the only
Speaker 3: person that complained to me about one of the boosts
Speaker 3: that was there. There was a guy that had some
Speaker 3: boosts that had a little bit scary pictures or something
Speaker 3: on it, and she was the one complaining to me
Speaker 3: about it and claimed to be a deliverance minister. This
Speaker 3: is I mean, I'm not she said she was a
Speaker 3: deliverance minister complaining to me about one of the guys boosts.
Speaker 3: And I said that like this booth, you know, if
Speaker 3: they're not believers, I was like, we kind of want
Speaker 3: them here, like it's cool, like God sindem our way,
Speaker 3: so we're going to talk to these people. And I
Speaker 3: no problem like with them being here. I don't care
Speaker 3: how that this is not a Christian conference. It's just
Speaker 3: a conference that happens to be a lot of Christians
Speaker 3: at it. Like it's like mostly Christians at this conference.
Speaker 3: But these people were welcome, you know. I told her that,
Speaker 3: and I was like I always look at people that
Speaker 3: come to us as an opportunity. Like, you know, Jesus
Speaker 3: wasn't scared to sit with the tax collector collectors, He
Speaker 3: wasn't scared to sit with the prostitutes, like he wasn't
Speaker 3: scared to sit with them. In fact, he influenced them
Speaker 3: where everywhere he went because he also knew he wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna fall for their tricks either. He was just there
Speaker 3: to be the light as we should be. So that's
Speaker 3: kind of where my mind was with it. But she's
Speaker 3: kind of almost snarled at me when I said that
Speaker 3: to her, and sure enough, later later on that next day,
Speaker 3: Saturday night, she starts manifesting a demon for like four
Speaker 3: hours straight. So it goes to show you that sometimes
Speaker 3: the people that are the most judgmental actually are the
Speaker 3: ones that have the problem. It's really crazy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll man.
Speaker 2: Well, John, I know probably most of the people in
Speaker 2: the chat to not or some of your followers, they
Speaker 2: know who you are. But maybe if somebody just stumbled
Speaker 2: across you know, the live or this later and not
Speaker 2: familiar with you, just let everybody know where they can
Speaker 2: find you and your content, because you actually have started
Speaker 2: a new adventure you got another show that you've started
Speaker 2: here recently.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, so I've been doing Now You See TV
Speaker 3: for a while. Some of you guys might know me
Speaker 3: from the Midnight Ride or from just various interviews I've
Speaker 3: done over the years. I used to do a lot
Speaker 3: of them back in the day, and then I kind
Speaker 3: of calmed down from doing them for a while. I
Speaker 3: think since about twenty twenty, I kind of stopped doing them. Well.
Speaker 3: I decided to start doing more interviews now only because
Speaker 3: of the conferences coming up. I really wanted to give
Speaker 3: an opportunity for because there's so many people out there
Speaker 3: that aren't AI, believe it or not, that are out
Speaker 3: there doing the stuff kind of like justin here and
Speaker 3: just all the people. There's so many people that are
Speaker 3: doing a good job that aren't AI, and I want
Speaker 3: to feature a lot of that. And I also want
Speaker 3: to be able to put this spiracy coon make this
Speaker 3: something bigger because I feel like I have to do
Speaker 3: it on another channel too, because there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people that don't understand when I'm interviewing somebody that may
Speaker 3: not be believe exactly what they believe. So I've decided
Speaker 3: to do this on another channel called Pounder's Quest, where
Speaker 3: it's kind of like my little quest for truth, my
Speaker 3: quest to interviewing different people about different things. That kind
Speaker 3: of I mean, I'll be interviewing people about Crypto, I'm
Speaker 3: going to be interviewing people about Skinwalker Ranch, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be interviewing probably I'm gonna be earn you soon
Speaker 3: about Esau. I'm gonna be interviewing all of these different things.
Speaker 3: There are gonna be a variety of subjects. I don't
Speaker 3: really want to pigeonhole the topics that I'm going to do,
Speaker 3: but I really enjoyed interviewing people, and I just feel
Speaker 3: like now's the time to really kind of make that
Speaker 3: happen more. I've been, I've had I've had five children
Speaker 3: over the last few years, you know, over the last
Speaker 3: fourteen years, and a lot of time and effort I
Speaker 3: put into my family is really important to me to
Speaker 3: be there. That's kind of my first ministry is trying
Speaker 3: to just be there for my children. I grew up
Speaker 3: in a preacher's kid home type environment, and my dad
Speaker 3: was a great man, and most people would think of
Speaker 3: him as a professional. He was as doctor and arrow that,
Speaker 3: but I really didn't get to see my dad that
Speaker 3: much because he was always working, so I never really
Speaker 3: got to see him or really learned from him or
Speaker 3: and I kind of it kind of like was upsetting
Speaker 3: almost to me in a way. And I don't want
Speaker 3: to do that to my children. I want to be
Speaker 3: there for them. So I'm I'm okay with what level
Speaker 3: of fame I've got, Like if it happens more than that, great,
Speaker 3: I don't care. Like I'm good with it. Like I
Speaker 3: want to be famous to my children. I want to
Speaker 3: be famous to my wife. I want I want them
Speaker 3: to look at me and be like that, you know,
Speaker 3: less my dad, Like I'm happy to be either his
Speaker 3: son or whatever. You know. I want that more because
Speaker 3: like the Alcolades from the world, they'll love you one day,
Speaker 3: they'll hate you the next, Like it really is one
Speaker 3: of those games. And like I you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of people think I make a lot of money off
Speaker 3: of this because of how many followers I have, but
Speaker 3: I'm not even monetized on YouTube, bro like so like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's some people that probably have the amount of followers
Speaker 3: I have and they probably make a lot of money,
Speaker 3: but it's not me. That's not I'm not the one
Speaker 3: that makes a lot of money off of it. Just
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of people that know me doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that I make a lot of money doing this.
Speaker 3: I really really don't. I think that we you know,
Speaker 3: we just we try or do our best. We have
Speaker 3: some widows that we really like to take care of
Speaker 3: and we try to keep the lights on and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. There's other things that we like to do,
Speaker 3: but this is a venture that we enjoy doing because
Speaker 3: we want to serve the King. We want to be
Speaker 3: the light to the world. Now you see TV as
Speaker 3: one of them and Pounder's Quests, but there's a lot
Speaker 3: of other people that are associated with us and spiracy
Speaker 3: Con and stuff that are all out there doing their
Speaker 3: thing and so you know, be out there. I think
Speaker 3: that it's important to support real people and not AI videos.
Speaker 3: There's so many AI podcasts out there now that I
Speaker 3: think it's important to kind of ban against all that
Speaker 3: it's just a distraction. Half of it's fake, and so
Speaker 3: we need to stick to being in person together sometimes,
Speaker 3: which is why I started spiracy Con. And we also
Speaker 3: need to be able to know who's real and who's not.
Speaker 4: You know, no CPEs or what was that term he used,
Speaker 4: Uh n PCs.
Speaker 3: I think that means non player character.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, NPC's baby, no, NBC's So well, John, if
Speaker 2: you before we close out, you want to close out
Speaker 2: and some prayer for for Charlie and his family, I
Speaker 2: think that would would be good. And all the guys
Speaker 2: and guys watching listening, Uh, keep this guy, you know,
Speaker 2: his family and your prayers because he had two little
Speaker 2: five year olds, man, and those five year olds are
Speaker 2: without a father now. So I think that we should
Speaker 2: just keep them in our thoughts and prayers and try
Speaker 2: our best to pray for peace and come up with them.
Speaker 3: Guys, forgive our hair, by the way, but oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we're doing that. We're doing I still do the old
Speaker 3: fashioned thing to take off the hat for prayer. I
Speaker 3: see a lot of people don't do that, but I
Speaker 3: was always like, you know, get the switch after me
Speaker 3: if I didn't, So I still got the got the
Speaker 3: habit of doing it. But let's do this. If Father,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for just the ability to come
Speaker 3: together and speak openly and freely. But we want to
Speaker 3: pray right now for Charlie Kirk's family, his wife and
Speaker 3: his two little children that had to see this happened
Speaker 3: to him. They literally had to see it happen. We
Speaker 3: all saw it happen on TV, and it'll put a
Speaker 3: pit in most of our stomach's, Father, because we see
Speaker 3: somebody who's trying to stand up for the values that
Speaker 3: seem biblical, and we see them getting put down by
Speaker 3: evil people that what we just consider evil people. You're
Speaker 3: the one ultimate judge, Father, but we see them getting
Speaker 3: put down and it's disheartening to us as believers to
Speaker 3: see this. Father. We want to see truth prevail. We
Speaker 3: want to see justice rain, and we ask this for
Speaker 3: your people. I know that your plan is greater than
Speaker 3: our thoughts and what we want, but I ask for
Speaker 3: strength and supernatural protection for your people so that when
Speaker 3: we do encounter this, that you give us light to
Speaker 3: be able to shine in darkness, and that we have
Speaker 3: this just beautiful piece about us that the world desires
Speaker 3: and desires in a way that they're going to run
Speaker 3: to you. Father. Thank you for everybody listening to this
Speaker 3: broadcast tonight, and I pray there your blessings upon them,
Speaker 3: and may your face shine brightly upon them, Father, and
Speaker 3: you're sure
Speaker 2: In Jesus' name, Amen, guys, thank you for tuning in
Speaker 2: and being patient with us and figuring out all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and hey, until next time towards the TWW guys, there's
Speaker 2: time