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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in hour number two, O TV one,
O four five ESPN Ben.
Speaker 2: Ruthe, Hey, what's the song I've been meaning to ask.
Speaker 4: It's called Heads Will Roll by the the Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, shocked about it?
Speaker 5: Hands behind the line.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's past eight.
Speaker 5: That's a moffat.
Speaker 2: I can say, hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean you can say yeah, you know, you just
can't the things that tiny Bobby used to talk about.
He picked Anthony Hill, junior Texas linebacker win the Heisman yesterday?
Speaker 6: Did he really.
Speaker 5: What I think? Brandon Hollinsworth.
Speaker 4: Child, that's l s U fan raised, trying to get.
Speaker 2: Clicks, just trying to get clicks.
Speaker 3: Now I'm co hosting uh Engagement podcast on NBC later today,
and he is going to be my Defensive Player of
the Year.
Speaker 7: Okay, we have two players from the same team ever
won the Heisman in the same year because Archer is
winning it. We know that, so like is Anthony Hill
Junior also going to win it?
Speaker 2: That's a solid point, fair point.
Speaker 3: Yea a great kid though he came on off his
weekly last year, well every other week he was super solid. Yeah,
a great young man. He's gonna have a monster, monster year.
But you know what, they are the ninth best team
in the country because the OTB Top twenty five, twenty five,
Boise State twenty four, Memphis twenty three, Baylor twenty two,
Georgia Tech twenty one, Tennessee twenty, i Was State nineteen,
Texas eight and four eighteen, Indiana seventeen, Old Miss sixteen,
Florida fifteen, Texas Tech fourteen, SMU thirteen, Arizona State twelve,
Alabama eleven, Miami ten, Illinois nine, Texas in number eight taytay.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Today we got the Oregon Ducks at ASH.
Speaker 7: Overall, now, there's gonna be a lot of new faces
in new places. Only five starters returning, two quick quick,
three linebackers all back from last year's team. But that's
it on defense. On offense, you only have two returning starters,
so you have your center back now Evan Stewart is back,
but he's injured right now.
Speaker 6: Now he's going to miss some.
Speaker 5: Times, actually more than he played.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he's gonna he's gonna miss a lot. But
Dan Lanning did a great job in recruiting. They finished
with a top five recruiting class. They had a really
good portal haul as well. You got Decoryan Moore, number
one receiver in the country, coming in. You have Malie Benson,
the transfer from Florida State coming in. You could piece
that thing together at wide receiver. Obviously, the quarterback battle
Dante Moore Austin Novasad. I imagine this is gonna be
Dante Moore. I know it's not officially official yet, but
looks like he's going to be the guy. But even
if he struggles Austin Novasad, he could play a little
bit behind him. He was out there at the Manning
Passing Academy. All reports were that he looked really good.
So they did an excellent job in recruiting. They did
an excellent job in the portal. You brought in two receivers,
you brought in four dbs that were all four star
or higher. So again you're gonna have young guys but
their talented Dorian brew who you got to flip from LSU.
He's over there now, Brandon Finnie's over there. They had
a haul in recruiting. And then on defense, you got
Dylan Thinnaman, the number one rated safety out of the portal.
Speaker 6: He is a baller. Yeah, he was excellent.
Speaker 7: You got Emmanuel Pregnant, the big tackle from USC to
come play o line for you.
Speaker 6: Here's the name for you guys. How about Bear Alexander.
Speaker 7: Huh And he'll finally stick over there in Oregon and
had worked out in the two previous spots. But we'll see.
Their biggest addition for the Sea is Mackay Hughes. That
is by far their biggest edition. He's been at two
lane the last two years, twenty seven hundred yards and
twenty two touchdowns the last two years running the football
for the two lane Green Wave. I mean he's gonna
take over twenty two over the last two seasons. He's
had that basically back to back fourteen hundred yard season
thirteen seventy eight and then right at fourteen hundred a
year ago. McKay Hughes is a stud. He's gonna kind
of continue that tradition. You had Bucky Irv and you
had Jordan James. Now you got Mkay Hughes. But look
like I was saying, there's a lot of unknown with
this team. There's talent, but they're unproven. Thing I like
about them the most it's their schedule. You avoid Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Illinois.
You don't have any of those teams on your schedule
right now. You got two ranked opponents, So you start
Morgan State, Oklahoma State, Northwestern, Oregon State. I'm putting them
at four, and oh you're going two Penn State week five.
That is a heck of a game. And then you
turn around the next week play number twenty Indiana at home.
That is a tough two game stretch. But outside of that,
you don't play a ranked opponent the rest of the way.
You finish Rutgers, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, USC and Washington. All
of those schools have big time question marks around them
as well. I trust Dan Lanning as a coach, so
while the roster's young, it's talented. And I really love
this schedule for the Oregon Ducks. So I got him
here at number eight.
Speaker 3: I can get behind this. I think They've got a
good situation to quarterback. For not having a guy that
you know is returning after starting twelve games, you got
somebody that has starting experience from UCLA. Kind of humbled
himself a little bit, went back to Oregon where he
was originally committed, sat behind Dylan Gabriel. We'll see what
that does. We'll see what his development looks like there.
I mean the Bear Alexander stuff.
Speaker 6: It's so funny to me.
Speaker 5: So he's probably made like ten million dollars.
Speaker 7: I was looking at the portal yesterday and he was
like one of the featured.
Speaker 3: Play the condo that he was living in when he
was with USC. How about this. He's played twenty eight
games in three years in college football. He has three
and a half sacks total in his career. Two of
those sacks came against TCU in a National championship game
where it was a lot too a little. He had
one and a half sacks at USC in twenty twenty three.
He had no sacks a year ago in three games played. Remember,
he kind of took himself out red shirted, so he'd
have another year to go get some nil money. And
let's see, he's like there ten tackles. He has ten
solo tackles.
Speaker 5: Ten.
Speaker 3: He has ten solo tackles in his career, has probably
made again ten million dollars, so a million.
Speaker 5: He keeps. Look, it's actually impressive from him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you keep the player underperform and keep
getting paid?
Speaker 5: Just somebody, He's just a guy.
Speaker 7: He's probably got and everybody's like glue guy. He's played
at three big time programs and he's six four, three thirty.
Speaker 6: Let's pay him. Like, if you can't play, you can't play.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out.
Speaker 6: I think we've already found out.
Speaker 7: Again, if Dan Lanning can get that guy to just
start double digit games on that team, give him coach
of the year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, barre Lexander, he can't play.
Speaker 7: Anyways, a good name, a lot of talent outside of
bar Alexander.
Speaker 5: Leung is a really good edge rusher.
Speaker 3: They've got, really, they got two really good edge rushers,
but bear Alexander and the interior.
Speaker 5: I bet he doesn't finish the season as a starter.
Speaker 6: No, couldn't scare me at all.
Speaker 5: Now, then him in somebody that a lot of people
don't know who that is.
Speaker 6: Probably freebody wanted him. Yeah, e freebody.
Speaker 5: He was on the All Meathead team the last two years.
He's a heck of a break player.
Speaker 3: Like he he's one of the biggest portal additions and
nobody talked about it.
Speaker 5: That's a big big get for Oregon.
Speaker 3: So, uh, the schedule, Yeah, I mean schedule lines up
pretty nicely for him. Where he's talking like, now, these
conferences they're so big, there's sixteen there's eighteen teams, Like,
you're going to have some of these cycles where you
don't have the toughest schedule. Now, it's not going to
be easy, but what's the severity of your schedule compared
to somebody else in your conference? Like we talk about it,
like Texas has a better path certainly than Oklahoma, than Florida.
Missouri has a much easier path than an Arkansas. Like
within the same conference, you can't have a schedule that Again,
I'm not calling it easy. It's still in the SEC,
but it's more manageable than somebody else in your conference.
Speaker 5: Now, because these teams are in these conferences are so massive.
Speaker 6: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 7: And again, can we can go back to experience, they
don't have a ton of it as far as last
year's team, but they're probably more talented than everybody on
their schedule outside of Penn State Indiana.
Speaker 6: Those are the two ranked teams.
Speaker 7: Okay, you can lose both of those games if you
win out like you got Rutgers Wisconsin, Iowa Minnesota.
Speaker 6: Like you can lose to both of your ranked opponents.
Speaker 7: You're still sitting there, right there in the thicket things
for the college football playoff. Now, your strength to schedule
ain't gonna be great, your quality of wins ain't gonna
be great.
Speaker 6: You're ten and two in the regular season. You're right there.
Speaker 3: Let's see Thibodeau and said the Boy four chat, you'll
always mentioned this schedule. So I guess these rankings are
a prediction for the final rankings and not ranking teams
going into Week one.
Speaker 2: Kind of That's how I view it.
Speaker 8: You can view the preseason rankings based on roster race,
based on the eyeball test, how you think they are.
I think our ranking has kind of been based on
what we think the top twenty five will be at
the end of the season. Who's got the best shot
to manage a schedule make the playoffs?
Speaker 5: Who like I'll give you kind of predicting, like going.
Speaker 2: Through the schedule, where are the victories, where for sure losses?
Where are the close game?
Speaker 8: I think that's kind of been our philosophy towards us.
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, Thibodeau, Like, Oklahoma is one
of the twenty five best teams in the country. Actually,
I don't think it's close. I think they're probably top twenty,
like right on the edge of twenty. They're not in
our ranking because of the gauntlet that they have no yet, Okay,
they're not gonna show up. If you put them in there,
then you're just being click bait. Well you know, so, yes,
I mean this is and there's something that there's some
there's some that we took a shot, there'd be a
little bold in there. But yeah, schedule does matter.
Speaker 5: This is if you like, like.
Speaker 2: You go look at the end of the season, it'll
be exactly what we say.
Speaker 4: I think so too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Twenty four and twenty three might get flipped, but it's
gonna be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I I should have included Missouri somewhere in
this twenty five because of.
Speaker 6: What still seven spots.
Speaker 2: Okay, hey you don't. You can do what you want, buddy.
Speaker 5: It's true.
Speaker 9: If you have a Constal ball and you know Eli
putting your number one bud, you ready drink. It's called
the teas season. It's next Friday.
Speaker 5: Who wins a big ten.
Speaker 7: I want to say until they show. It's gonna be
until the trophy, right, like I want to say them.
Speaker 6: But they just I gotta see it.
Speaker 2: They're gonna wide out all the way to second place.
Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of conferences, did y'all see that
finally dB U is going to do the right thing
and enjoy the pac twelve?
Speaker 5: Did see that?
Speaker 4: Dallas is known for its sweeping views of the Pacific?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think that. Yeah. When I think Dallas, I
think Portland.
Speaker 2: Really smart.
Speaker 3: You know, did you know did you know Dallas Baptist
was good at college baseball?
Speaker 5: I did? Actually, okay I did, because pretty close to
your to your area.
Speaker 2: I do kind of say Dallas is like the l
A of the South.
Speaker 5: Was the tea bot that hated Dallas?
Speaker 4: T BO hates Texas, Texas as a whole.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Dallas hate out there.
Speaker 4: I love Dallas was great.
Speaker 6: I hate people hate dogs. O.
Speaker 8: The Cowboys didn't know, you know, there's some parts that
the are a little pretentious and yeah, got a little
bit of that l a player to it.
Speaker 4: It's like in Highland Park and that's yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of ridiculous cars driving
around there.
Speaker 4: When you go to Dallas, there's some pretty ridiculous I
love Dallas, though not a huge fan of Houston.
Speaker 2: What color is your ga wagon?
Speaker 3: Shout out to you, six Flags over Texas were there
many many times on vacation.
Speaker 2: That's in Arlington, though I.
Speaker 3: Didn't say where it was. It's called six Flags over Texas.
Speaker 2: Just a random shout out.
Speaker 5: Is Arlington in Dallas? That far away?
Speaker 3: No, an amusement park probably wouldn't say port.
Speaker 5: We just say the amusement park name.
Speaker 2: That's not like that. It's not like Shreeport Bowsure. Okay,
this is like a little bit bigger situation.
Speaker 3: Arlington's because there's not the Red River separating the two cities.
Tree Force, not bosure Bot.
Speaker 2: Why we gotta bring the red River into this.
Speaker 5: That's what separates the two cities is the red River.
Speaker 2: It's fine. Did you know that I did? I didn't.
I don't really care.
Speaker 3: Should you can't you can't get home unless you go
through the City of dreams Port City.
Speaker 2: Is there anything worse than a bright colored GA wagon?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bright colored like lamb over Ferrari's pretty bad.
Speaker 10: Like as it goes like electric green, like like a
candy red G wagon.
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I'm going G Wagon, I'm going like yeah,
Matt Black.
Speaker 2: Was, Yeah, I'm just not going it at all? Why
sick of my trip?
Speaker 5: I used to have one.
Speaker 2: Sick with a Toyota.
Speaker 4: Toyotas are great, reliable.
Speaker 2: Try going to the dealership or renting the GA wagon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you rent a Tundra yep. What about Tacoma?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 5: Exactly. All right, Oregon number eight, So Flynn, you're up next.
I am up next, number seven.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do the math here.
Speaker 5: We got to do two. On the last day we've
talked about this.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're trying to decide to decide who's available,
who's available?
Speaker 2: Because I know we had skipped where we're kicking Michigan
out of our top twenty five pretty sure. So I
was trying to think that left the gap or we're
gonna have to like throw a random team in the
top ten that we forgot out.
Speaker 5: No, No, I think we're good. We're good, We're good.
Speaker 2: I was just mathing, we are good. I was mathing
over here.
Speaker 5: The math is mathing.
Speaker 2: At this point. It's just going to be which teams
we don't like the most?
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much?
Speaker 5: Who's gonna all right? So seven?
Speaker 8: I mean already five or three, two.
Speaker 3: One, we at the bottom two in a laundry.
Speaker 5: Getting number one, say, national championship.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be. That's like, that's the biggest pick. But
it's probably the easiest one, right, It's probably because it's.
Speaker 6: Gonna be one one.
Speaker 4: The hardest was like starting off.
Speaker 2: Three and two is probably gonna be.
Speaker 3: I felt like two through nineteen, this is the hardest,
the hardest.
Speaker 7: You would kind of throw all of them up there
and be like, no, I'm putting them at twenty. Oh
well they're actually twenty three.
Speaker 6: Whatever.
Speaker 5: I would say.
Speaker 3: I don't have the number one pick, but my number
one would be completely different, I think than most polls
that I've seen out there. I will say that, Well, yeah,
because the number one I'm talking about like any I'm
talking about like anybody's top twenty five is doing it across.
Speaker 2: The country too, So no doubt I know who my
one is.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter because you don't get the pick number one,
Alandra does.
Speaker 2: Who gets two? Me and you kind of y'all both
get a pick number one.
Speaker 3: Though kind of all right, we'll take a break when
we come back talk about LSU football. Of course, it's Thursday,
so we've got chef Michael Johnson. We've got a big
deal or no big deal coming in hour number three.
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Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Baby, I just don't
get it.
Speaker 6: Do you enjoy being hurt?
Speaker 1: I'm blocked in on LSU football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 6: You don't believe his stories.
Speaker 11: You know that there are lies bad as.
Speaker 2: You walk, you stick around, and I just don't know
why your man, baby, you do. Don't worry about what
I do. I'll be coming holding back to you every night.
Speaker 11: Do when you write like a wama surf good thing
this phtaoma haad of the ring. I just want to
show you you are you should let.
Speaker 6: Me love you, let me be the one.
Speaker 5: It's Tier one right here?
Speaker 3: Huh, tier one, that's Tier Did y'all see the Bears
rookie tight end singing this in front of the team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Coleson love and he did a good job.
Speaker 3: He did a great job. And let me just tell you,
I don't know how y'all did in Green Bay. That
was our thing too. In San Diego, rookie get up there,
sing a song, entertain us, And it was.
Speaker 5: The way we did it.
Speaker 3: It was like right before like a team meeting, like
every rookie would kind of have you get up there,
name school, signing bonus, and then you gotta you gotta entertain,
you gotta sing getta go? Is that what y'all did?
Speaker 8: We didn't, actually, I know it was one of those
things we don't know. We did some other teams, but
yeah I did. We never did the talent show situation
kind of boring.
Speaker 3: I went with Ice Ice Baby, like everybody's gonna know this.
It's gonna get the people moving. And if you do
the running Man dance as you do it like Vanilla
did it in the video, you're gonna get the approval.
Speaker 5: So I went for it.
Speaker 3: You got ahead, nod got I got, I got standing
up and like had a boy.
Speaker 5: Good job. That's all.
Speaker 3: That's all you're looking for, to get everybody in the
room involved.
Speaker 2: I like it. So that's a good choice because you
gotta rap a little bit. But at the heart of things.
Speaker 8: You know every is everybody in the room in your
heart of hearts. You know all the lyrics, no doubt,
So there's no messing it up. There's no messing it up.
Speaker 3: Everybody in the room, whether they'd like to admit it
or not, knows the lyrics to Ice Ice.
Speaker 2: Baby what a cameo about him? And Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go Ninja Go, Ninja Go. But great Colson lovel
and singing this one, he had the whole room going.
Speaker 2: Did you ever seen Vanilla Ice flipping houses?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Have I seen what's that show called Vanila Eyes Project?
I think I don't know. It's Rob van Winkle to me, though.
Speaker 2: I do Kim flip a freaking house.
Speaker 3: Man, We're gonna put this aquarium as a basketball court,
can be fish underneath you.
Speaker 5: That kind of flips what he does.
Speaker 8: I hate those shows because they're like, all right, we're
gonna redo this bathroom and we're gonna do it, and
they put up what it costs and like it costs
seven hundred dollars and I'm like, the hell it did.
There's no shot I've redone a bathroom.
Speaker 2: It's like the opposite of I don't know.
Speaker 5: I heard. I'm like that, the opposite. All.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you get this false sense of security on what
it's like to, like, you know, renovate something.
Speaker 5: Yes, I actually had to. I had to learn pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie's flipped I think nine nine houses and it's like, hey,
you can keep paying this team or you can you know,
instead of paying seven team members, pay three and you
make up.
Speaker 5: For the other four. So you got to learn, and
you better learn quick.
Speaker 2: So like when do you do that? Like at commercial
breaks of all your shows that you do?
Speaker 3: Well, this was before I did two shows today. This
was like I retired. I did a show in Treeford
that started out like I did it once a week
and turned into three times a week and turned into
every day.
Speaker 2: So what do you do now you're paying the team
of seven?
Speaker 8: Uh, well, weekends are busy.
Speaker 3: This house doesn't need as you know used to be.
You buy a house that's in a great neighborhood. It
needs a little TLC. It's outdated and little by little
because capital gains. You don't want to do it all
at once, you know, so over time you do it,
you fix it up, and you sell it.
Speaker 2: Mitchell you laughing at Mitchell and the chat. The opposite
of spending money is saving money. Quote from me, nailed it. See,
we looked at you tune into this show. You learn
something every single day, learned something new every day.
Speaker 5: We looked up the stats yesterday. We won't harp on
that we did look those stats up. Though.
Speaker 8: Hey, if you're sitting here on your high horse thinking
that every now and then, you don't black out when
you're talking, you're lying to yourself.
Speaker 5: All right, I got Hunt Palmer.
Speaker 3: Louisiana sports dot Net put out the five most indispensable
players for the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 5: The five guys they cannot move forward without.
Speaker 3: The guys that are going to if LSU makes any
kind of run, are going to be the key force
behind said run. He goes Garrett Nussmeyert one, whatweaks it too?
Aj Halse at three, Braylen Moore at four, and Caden
Durham running back at number five.
Speaker 2: Initial thoughts here, Matthew well Nuts is going to be
the engine that drives this thing. His performance is going
to certainly be there. But we kind of talked about
Harold Perkins too, Like, if Harold Perkins at the.
Speaker 3: End of the year, the fact that Harold's not on
this list is shocking to me because I truly believe
Harold Perkins is the most I said it the other day,
the most important non quarterback maybe in the country. So
not just here at LSU, not just in the Southeastern Conference.
I'm talk about the entire country. If you get a
version of Harold Perkins that we saw a couple of
years ago, LSU's four and season is completely different than
if he is a non factor.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So if if Harold Perkins doesn't have the year, if
something happens and he doesn't have the year that we
hope for or that he, like his potential says he
could have, then else else, She's gonna be good. We're
still gonna be good. We're gonna be right like we're
gonna be We're gonna be in the thick of it.
But if Harold Perkins is on a trajectory towards the
end of the season where he's looking like an All American.
People are talking about him like they were his freshman year.
If they If he is on that trajectory and playing
like that, dude, we know we are guaranteed gonna be
one of the top teams in the country going into
the playoffs. We're playing for SEC championship. I believe have
a real good shot at being the SEC champion. If
that's the case, we will be one of the favorites
to win the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's how big of it like that. That's the thing
I think.
Speaker 8: If he's not, then we're gonna be We're gonna be
fighting the scrapping to get in potentially. But if he is,
I think it's a lock that we're gonna be a
top one or two team going in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And look, I can get behind some of the other
players in this yeah, Nessmer. Obviously, Caden Durham would be
higher on mine. I think he's actually number three. I
would go nuts Perk Cayden Durham Witweeks, and then I
would give you probably three dbs at number five, just
because I think they're all that important.
Speaker 5: He mentions Halsey.
Speaker 3: I'd have him on this list, I'd have to Marcus
Cooley and then have Delaine on this list as well.
I would have like those three players as like one
player because I think they all have to play really,
really well. But I would have Perkins number two because
of everything Matt said. It's kind of like we talk
about with Leonora Sellers. If Leonora Sellers in Novembers in
the Heisman conversations, South Carolina's having a great season. If
he's not, they're going to be a four lost team.
Like that's what he means to that team. I think
Harrol Perkins can mean that to this team if he
is striking fear in his opponents. If he is that
guy that every quarterback looks at right before the ball
snap because he's like, oh my god, number seven is
going to just be in the backfield before I even
get the ball in my hands again like he once was.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: He doesn't get to that point. If he's backpedaling into
the curl flat.
Speaker 5: He's going to do some of that.
Speaker 3: That's just that's going to be some of it because
he can't look, he can't live on the edge.
Speaker 5: He cannot do it. It's not his body type. He can't.
Speaker 3: He's not a three down edge rusher. He can rush
from the edge at the close your ears the star position.
Speaker 5: That can be done.
Speaker 3: I look as a running back when you've got one
of those guys coming out like Bob Sanders, he might
hear him. Remember Bob Sanders from the Colts. Okay, stud Yeah,
and he was like really cared about his body, like
a muscle hamster. Okay, that's what he was. Yeah, he
had no regard for his body. Now, he played safety,
so he was doing what you're talking about. He was
backpedaling at times. Obviously he plays safety. But man, when
he decided to get on that edge, when he decided
to come from depth like five yards and kind of
get that walking running start and he hit, good luck,
he's got.
Speaker 5: Leverage on you. Automatically, game changer.
Speaker 3: It's about two hundred and fifteen pounds, even though he
doesn't look like it, and he's coming like a silver
bullet and doesn't care if he breaks every bone in
his body.
Speaker 5: His job is to get to the quarterback right, So
you can still do those things.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I have Harold Perkins so high
on my list of LSU players.
Speaker 5: They cannot do without Caden Durham.
Speaker 3: Also, man if if you look at the depth of
running backs behind Caden Durham, there's a lot of hope.
There's no guarantee. It is hoping that they do well.
We talked about Kal Jackson, you know obviously Juwan and
in his situation and what he ends up doing. It's
gonna be some Q runs lined up at quarterback. Okay,
you know you've got Barry who's going to be a
true freshman. You don't know what's gonna happen with a
true freshman. You have no idea. Zaman Thomas is somebody
I love them getting him involved in the running game,
and I hope to see that. But all of that
is hoping that it works out, hoping it can be productive.
The only guarantee you have right now at the running
back position is Caden Durham. He had over seven hundred
yards last year. He was injured all the back half
didn't matter. He still went out there and played a
lot of grit. He's the only thing that you know
right now that you're going to get from the running
back position. There's no way in the world I can
have a list like this and not have Kaden Durham
in the top three.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm excited based on what we've seen in practice,
based on the reports coming out of practice, they are
Lsu is starting to throw in a little bit of
under center and so I don't know how much. I
don't even know if it's going to make it into
an actual game plan early on in the season. I'm
sure Garrett Nesmaar has not taken many snaps under center
in his life.
Speaker 3: Actually, if anybody though that hasn't done it in a game,
you know, Doug at him out there in the front yard,
no doubt, There's no.
Speaker 2: Doubt about that.
Speaker 8: But that to me, that gets that is exciting from
an offensive perspective because you're starting to do different things.
They're starting to kind of open open the playbook a
little bit more. And for the running back, it gets
you it's a whole different ballgame running from under center
than it is in the gun. And so like throw
a couple of different elements in there. I love when
the quarterback at least if you can be the majority gun.
But you know, I'm a big proponent of getting under
the center at least some as a changeup. But like
helps running in some cases, it's certainly a big time
helps running backs, but it helps the quarterbacks too, especially
in play action situations. Turning your back to a defense
as a quarterback is an advantage that not many people
discuss or talk about. It's an advantage for the offense
when you can turn your back to the defense and
hide a ball when they can't. When the defense cannot
see a ball, it creates confusion.
Speaker 2: It creates hesitation. Whether it's for a.
Speaker 8: Split second, it doesn't like a split second is all
you need in college football. So when you turn your
back and they cannot see where the ball is, it
creates hesitation. It allows tight ends, it allows receivers, allows
running backs, whatever it is to gain leverage and out
flank people. And then the defense has to react after
they see the ball again. Who has the ball? Doesn't
running back out the balls and quarterbacks through out the ball.
Whatever it is, it just creates confusion. In the gun,
it is hard to do that because you're never turning
your back. Yeah, unless you're in pistol, you're turning your
back for a second. But if you're under center and
play action, you're turning your back for good. Three to
four steps right, So that creates a lot of hesitation.
It's kind of a lost art in college football right
now the NFL, the best offenses in the league are
doing probably close to fifty to fifty, if not sixty
forty under center. Those are the best offenses in the
entire world. Are starting to go back and implement more
and more under center. So I'm excited for that aspect
on how it can help Garrett. And that's my the
offensive line. And yeah, of course Kane.
Speaker 3: Durham, Yeah, and Kan Durham being you know, obviously RB one,
but also Kal Jackson. And so what Flynn's talking about.
So Caleb's a big back, right, He's a power back.
And like if you look at like our running backs
in two thousand and seven, we had a lot of
power backs, like we have bigger guys. Certainly O six
I was six, might actually be a better examples. So
me as a power back, like I'm two hundred and
thirty pounds, one of my advantages is going downhill and
going downhill fast. Same thing with Caleb Jackson, right, he
has got the size, he's got the speed. So if
you're turning, they always tell you never turn your numbers
to the sideline and pass protection or really any situation
in football. But that's what you do when you're in gun.
You're getting the football, your numbers are towards the sideline.
You get it, and then you have to turn and
then try to go full speed after you've already turned.
But remember the defense has not turned. The defense is
going north and south the entire time, so they never stop.
You have to hesitate, turn and then continue to go
full speed. Look, everybody cross the country runs inside zone
at a gun. Now it's in vogus what they do.
So this isn't just picking on LSU's running game. It's
what happens across the country. But if I am somebody
that has the size and speed of a Caleb Jackson,
and does he need to continue to improve on reading
and running play out, absolutely, But for him you can
still being gun. All you gotta do. Hey, Nuss here,
give one of these. That means getting a pistol. You
get into pistol. So Nus Meyers at five, you're still
at seven and a half, just like you would be
in the eye formation. You open crossover, shoulders are still
square towards the defensive line. You're still running inside zone now.
But the problem for the defense, I'm not going sideways anymore.
Speaker 5: My shoulders.
Speaker 3: You always see the two and the eight, and I
get a chance to get the ball going downhill and
full speed.
Speaker 5: I still have that cut. I've got the backside cut.
Speaker 3: And if you want to keep some quarterback keep run
option open, which is what people do in inside zone,
you still have it.
Speaker 5: You still have it.
Speaker 3: He is still he can still read and do some
different things off of that, and it's just a different look.
Speaker 5: You can play action pass off of that.
Speaker 3: And if if you want to turn that's turning your
back to the defense, you can still do it out
of gun.
Speaker 5: You don't have to.
Speaker 3: Worry about center quarterback exchange, and you get all the
things that you want to get done done through getting
and pistol.
Speaker 2: It does eliminate a lot of the r POS situations.
But but you're.
Speaker 5: Not I mean that's not you're not an r PO
team right now.
Speaker 3: You don't have a quarterback that you want pulling the football,
right I mean, you can still run some things off
of it. Now, it's going to be probably a quick
pass into the flags.
Speaker 8: It'd be more of a pre snap read rather than
a post snap reed right, because most RPOs right now
are posting read. They're reading the linebackers or drop safety,
depending on whether they want to throw a slant or
a stop or whatever it is old school under center
or turning your back to the defense.
Speaker 2: R p O is a completely pre snap read. The
numbers don't look good, and I'm throwing a backside key, backside,
one step slant something like that. Well, yeah, what happened?
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Speaker 2: We can do hand missions.
Speaker 3: I'll try to find a clip of what I'm talking
about during the break, and we'll show you what we're
talking about.
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Speaker 8: Last week during Funky Friday, basically I'm gonna paraphrase here,
but basically said this is terrible, I hate it and
I don't want to do it. And then at the
end of the show, it's been pretty good.
Speaker 5: It was better than a thought. Y'all did better than
I thought. I was thinking. Y'all were going like disco.
Speaker 4: And it's gonna be tough doing it every Friday.
Speaker 6: It seems really well.
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the Funk on Fridays every time.
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Speaker 2: I agree a little bit of loud than that. Oh
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to be in Texas this weekend, so yeah,
maybe at the Long Branch.
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Ireland and it didn't like kind of early, man, I
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Speaker 8: I thinking it was like ten for some reason. I
don't think, so we better check that. Uh yeah, I'll
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week one we I won't be at the house. We'll
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Speaker 3: Eleven Ye, it's eleven o eleven so noon eastern though, yeah, yeah, sorry,
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Speaker 5: Over on the other show.
Speaker 3: We have to talk in Eastern time, which I hate,
but my brain's trained.
Speaker 5: To do it.
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the pre season games? This week used to be like
the last week used to be Thursday. I think it's
Saturday Thursday because he got two weeks. Yeah, because you
got multiple weeks. Now, yeah, it's not the same.
Speaker 3: It's not the Thursday. Did you make the team on Friday?
Walk through Saturday? Practice Sundays?
Speaker 6: So do you have two games tonight though?
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made the team to get cut on Monday. Yeah, and
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