Speaker 1: In October of twenty twenty, a young pregnant mother was
Speaker 1: found murdered in her texts home, her unborn baby cut
Speaker 1: from her womb and taken. Just hours later, Taylor Parker
Speaker 1: was pulled over miles away, claiming she had just given
Speaker 1: birth on the roadside. But Taylor wasn't a new mother.
Speaker 1: She was a woman desperate to keep up a lie
Speaker 1: that had spiraled into bloodshed. This is the chilling story
Speaker 1: of deception, obsession, and one of the most shocking crimes
Speaker 1: in recent memory. This is the story of Reagan and
Speaker 1: Braxlin Hancock.
Speaker 2: My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked
Speaker 2: and Grim, a true crime podcast.
Speaker 1: The following podcast material more mature audience listener. How did
Speaker 1: I sound on that intro?
Speaker 2: Pretty good?
Speaker 1: Did I okay? Things sound different to me. I got
Speaker 1: my new headphones and it's not I'm not used to it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: You got some fancy new gear over there, Look at you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's fancy as my last ones.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like my other ones. I had them
Speaker 1: for a long time and they don't make those ones anymore.
Speaker 1: So I had to go with a different style or
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Speaker 2: That does suck. So many companies do that. They have
Speaker 2: a good product or good item and then they just
Speaker 2: change it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta, I don't know, it's consumerism, right, just
Speaker 1: try and get people to get the newest the l
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I should have like scouted eBay
Speaker 1: to see if I could have found a pair or
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they might have had them on there. Mine.
Speaker 2: I got new ones too, because I have like a
Speaker 2: ticking I can think. I can't remember if we talked
Speaker 2: about this in apprecio or apps or are regular episodes.
Speaker 1: I think it was a regular episode.
Speaker 2: We and so I have like some like tapping ticking
Speaker 2: in my ear and it's quite quite annoying. But we
Speaker 2: got new ones for me too, But it didn't come
Speaker 2: with a chord, so I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're Bluetooth only, don't have an OX cord. So
Speaker 1: that's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I gotta wait for some new ones
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you still hear the ticking right now?
Speaker 2: Periodically? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Dang, but my brain has just gotten used to
Speaker 2: do it. I think a little bit fair enough. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that says about my sanity.
Speaker 1: Maybe the ticking isn't in the headphones, it's just in
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just no, it's definitely the headphone.
Speaker 1: You sure it's not just the ticking down to the
Speaker 1: day that you snap.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I hear this before I fall asleep
Speaker 2: at night. Can you imagine?
Speaker 1: It's just like Captain Hook from Peter Pan and you know,
Speaker 1: hear the tick tick right of Yep. Anyways, we got
Speaker 1: quite the show today for you guys, No kidding, if
Speaker 1: you didn't hear the intro, Yeah, this is This is
Speaker 1: gonna be another one of those trigger warning episodes because
Speaker 1: we have a woman who had her unborn child stolen
Speaker 1: from her and yet yeah, it was taken out of
Speaker 1: her body. So let's put it that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're all every single episode needs to have
Speaker 2: a trigger warning, which is why we have our generic
Speaker 2: one at the start. Yes, but I guess this one
Speaker 2: may affect a little bit more some more people than
Speaker 2: the average I guess like anyone that's a mother, really.
Speaker 1: Pretty much anyone with a who's a mother, anyone who
Speaker 1: has you know, children of a young age or expecting
Speaker 1: or want. The list goes on. It's just a very
Speaker 1: sensitive topic. Not that we don't discuss sensitive topics, but
Speaker 1: it's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was just gonna be like anyone that
Speaker 2: has a heart. But that's that's pretty much all of them.
Speaker 1: Too, fair enough. Yeah, specifically warning on this one because
Speaker 1: it is very sensitive to that topic. So if you're ready,
Speaker 1: we can keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay. So Reagan Hancock was just twenty one years old
Speaker 1: when her life was stolen in the most brutal and
Speaker 1: unimaginable way. She wasn't a public figure or someone who
Speaker 1: was a living a high profile life. She was a
Speaker 1: young mother, a wife, a daughter, and a sister who
Speaker 1: radiated kindness and warmth. What happened to her not only
Speaker 1: shattered her family, but also deeply unsettled the community of
Speaker 1: Boston New Boston, Texas. She was born on November fourteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Reagan Simon's Hancock was her full name.
Speaker 1: She grew up in New Hope, Arkansas, and later settled
Speaker 1: in New Boston, Texas, a quiet, tight knit town with
Speaker 1: a population of just under five thousand people. Her parents,
Speaker 1: Jessica and Brandon Simmons, divorced when she was young, but
Speaker 1: Reagan remained close with both sides of her extended fe family.
Speaker 1: She had siblings, step parents, and a huge support network
Speaker 1: surrounding her. Her home life was full of laughter, shared meals,
Speaker 1: and a constant communication. She and her mom texted every day,
Speaker 1: the kind of bond that was unshakable, you know. Reagan
Speaker 1: was known for being gentle, nurturing, and most importantly, welcoming.
Speaker 1: Friends and family described her as someone who made other
Speaker 1: feels They feeled safe, They felt safe and included when
Speaker 1: they were around her. She had a way of making
Speaker 1: friends very fast with anyone, and she gave people the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt even when maybe she probably shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: In her late teens, Reagan met Homer Hancock and they
Speaker 1: quickly fell in love. The couple married in September of
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and were already raising their daughter, Kinley together.
Speaker 1: Reagan embraced motherhood wholeheartedly. Her social media was full of
Speaker 1: pictures of her daughter with you know, baby giggles, birthday cakes,
Speaker 1: and sunny days at the park, and in August of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, she shared the news that she was pregnant
Speaker 1: with her second child, a baby girl. They planned to
Speaker 1: name Braxlin Sage Hancock.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a.
Speaker 1: Cool name, Actually it is. She was thirty four weeks
Speaker 1: pregnant in October twenty twenty. Excited to welcome her second
Speaker 1: daughter into the world. She had her hospital bag packed,
Speaker 1: the nursery was almost done. She was glowing, not just
Speaker 1: because of the pregnancy, but because she was full of hope.
Speaker 1: Now let's sidetrack a little bit and introduce another person
Speaker 1: into the story. Her name is Taylor Parker and she
Speaker 1: was born in nineteen eighty nine and raised in Texas.
Speaker 1: Her parents, Snoah Prior and Mark Morton, divorced in two
Speaker 1: thousand and five. During the early years after they split,
Speaker 1: her family tried a fifty to fifty custody arrangement, each
Speaker 1: parent alternating you know, weeks at the family home with
Speaker 1: the kids. You know that sort of thing, right. It
Speaker 1: didn't last long, though, tensions ran high and arguments were
Speaker 1: witnessed by the children. Eventually, Taylor began spending more time
Speaker 1: with her father and grandmother. According to those close to her,
Speaker 1: Taylor struggled with weight issues from a young age, she
Speaker 1: reportedly used food as an emotional crutch, and much like
Speaker 1: her grandmother. You know it seemed to like run into
Speaker 1: the family because her grandmother relied on food just like
Speaker 1: the same now. By the age of fourteen, she weighed
Speaker 1: over two hundred and fifty pounds and was deeply unhappy
Speaker 1: with her appearance. However, in twenty fourteen, she underwent a
Speaker 1: gastric bypass surgery in Mexico to address her obesity. Regardless,
Speaker 1: though Taylor's problems weren't limited to her body and body image,
Speaker 1: she as she grew older, a pattern of deception began
Speaker 1: to emerge, small lies at first, but they grew more
Speaker 1: elaborate over time. She often fabricated stories about her health,
Speaker 1: family life, and accomplishments to gain sympathy or attention, whichever
Speaker 1: she really seemed to prefer at the time. Friends and
Speaker 1: acquaintances would later describe her as someone who is always
Speaker 1: seeking validation, often in manipulative ways. By her late teens,
Speaker 1: Taylor had dropped at a high school, and soon she
Speaker 1: became pregnant. She gave birth to her first child, a daughter,
Speaker 1: at just seventeen years old. The child's father was reportedly
Speaker 1: not involved in their lives, and later she married Tommy
Speaker 1: Sells and had a second child, a son, But after
Speaker 1: his birth, she made a significant and permanent decision. She
Speaker 1: underwent tubule legation, or she had her tubes tied, preventing
Speaker 1: further pregnancy.
Speaker 2: Right, so she decided she didn't want any more kiddos.
Speaker 1: Correct. That wasn't the end of her reproductive surgeries, though.
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, after being hospitalized for pelvic pain, doctors
Speaker 1: discovered an ectopic pregnancy and performed an emergency hysterectomy.
Speaker 2: Dang.
Speaker 1: So what this means basically is it's a pregnancy which
Speaker 1: occurs with a fertilized egg that implants and grows outside
Speaker 1: of the main cavity of the uterus. So most likely
Speaker 1: it's typically found within like a fallopian tube.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so not a healthy pregnancy whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, super dangerous. Kind of scary for sure.
Speaker 1: So with her emergency hysterectomy, she had a complete removal
Speaker 1: of her uterus. The procedure, though necessary for her safety,
Speaker 1: left Taylor unable to carry any more children. While her
Speaker 1: mother and then husband approved of the surgery while she
Speaker 1: was under anesthesia at the time, Taylor would later express
Speaker 1: anger over this decision.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yes.
Speaker 1: So it was one that she technically was not did
Speaker 1: not make. Okay, so she was under anesthesia they discovered
Speaker 1: this and it's like, okay, we got to do this,
Speaker 1: and they approved did the surgery. So she woke up
Speaker 1: to the hysterectomy being proved.
Speaker 2: Whitch I mean they were making that decision for her benefit,
Speaker 2: like to save her. And but and it makes sense
Speaker 2: too because she did have her.
Speaker 1: Her tubes tied, which, if I'm not mistaken though it is.
Speaker 2: A reverse I think it is. Yeah. So but they
Speaker 2: probably were like, oh, like she doesn't want to have
Speaker 2: any more kids or whatever, but clearly that had changed
Speaker 2: in her mind at some point.
Speaker 1: Potentially, Yes, And honestly, it's basically a life saving decision
Speaker 1: that they made. I can understand her being upset for
Speaker 1: not having that autonomy on herself, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's someone looking out for like this could kill you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that's that's why they made that decision.
Speaker 1: So I understand both sides of the coin in that situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they made it out of love to
Speaker 2: save her.
Speaker 1: So yes, regardless of how she felt when she first
Speaker 1: woke up or whether she developed those feelings a little
Speaker 1: bit later on. It didn't matter because despite what had
Speaker 1: actually happened, despite the surgery she went through, she kept
Speaker 1: that fact of that surgery secret from any future partners.
Speaker 1: So she did not tell them that she had a
Speaker 1: hysterectomy and that she was unable to carry children.
Speaker 2: Okay, so clearly this destroyed her her current relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, overtime tale lies intensified. She told people she
Speaker 1: had multiple scolerosis, a history of strokes, blood clotting disorders,
Speaker 1: and even cancer.
Speaker 2: Whoa.
Speaker 1: She joined support groups for conditions she didn't have, and
Speaker 1: faked medical paperwork to back up those claims. This wasn't
Speaker 1: just for sympathy. Taylor also used these lies to manipulate
Speaker 1: people financially and emotionally. She also repeatedly faked pregnancies in
Speaker 1: multiple relationships. She would claim to be expecting, then fabricate
Speaker 1: miscarriages or stillbirths, which in itself is fucked up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, what was she doing, like just trying to
Speaker 2: look for sympathy, I'm assuming her.
Speaker 1: A lot of the times? Yeah wow? Yeah, Now, each
Speaker 1: time she managed to elicit care and concern from those
Speaker 1: around her, and each time the truth eventually came out.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, Taylor began dating a man by the
Speaker 1: name of Wade Griffin, a horse trainer she met at
Speaker 1: a rodeo. As with previous relationships, Taylor painted herself as
Speaker 1: someone's success full, wealthy, and eager to start a family.
Speaker 1: She told Wade she came from oil money, had expensive properties,
Speaker 1: and was set to inherit large sums of wealth, none
Speaker 1: of which were of course true.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, she's poor pretty much.
Speaker 1: And then once again she said she was pregnant, and
Speaker 1: this time it would go further than any of the
Speaker 1: other lies had gone before. Taylor spared no effort in
Speaker 1: crafting the illusion of a pregnancy. She posted ultrasound photos online,
Speaker 1: which were of course doctored, bought a prosthetic pregnancy belly,
Speaker 1: and attended fake doctor appointments. Her social media showed maternity photos,
Speaker 1: due dates, and even baby name announcements, and Wade believed it,
Speaker 1: so did much of her inner circle with her friends.
Speaker 1: But by mid twenty twenty, cracks were starting to show
Speaker 1: her body didn't match the pregnancy claims. Her behavior became
Speaker 1: a radic and Taylor had boxed herself into a corner.
Speaker 1: Now As I mentioned, she convinced her boyfriend Wade, that
Speaker 1: she was pregnant with this child. It was a lie
Speaker 1: that was at this point beginning to reach an expiration date.
Speaker 1: With the HYS direct me now five years behind her
Speaker 1: and a fabricated due date that's fast approaching, Taylor began
Speaker 1: to spiral deeper into a fantasy that she could no
Speaker 1: longer sustain from the outside. Yeah, she appeared to be
Speaker 1: another expecting mother. She posted on her socials with her
Speaker 1: whole journey of being pregnancy, with all the photos, the ultrasounds,
Speaker 1: do dates, all the things that I've already mentioned. In fact,
Speaker 1: she even had a baby shower, inviting friends and family
Speaker 1: to celebrate the upcoming birth of the baby girl, who
Speaker 1: she claims she was going to name Clancy Gaale.
Speaker 2: Oh my word, hey, like, how can you just do that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It's collecting gifts and shit from people, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, she's collecting gifts, She's posting fake ultrasounds
Speaker 1: onogram like all this sort of stuff, and she's continuing
Speaker 1: to do it and knowing that there's going to be
Speaker 1: a point where there is a point of no return,
Speaker 1: will figure this out?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm imagining too. If she already had mental
Speaker 2: health issues, this is only going to make them just worse.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and everything she's going through, any question someone has,
Speaker 1: she's fabricating another lie to cover that trailang And I
Speaker 1: believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said it to quote,
Speaker 1: no man has a good enough memory to be a
Speaker 1: successful liar, and by man, of course human. So yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever sex you want to be or gender doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: you still fall in that category. And this is definitely
Speaker 1: the same case. She is not going to be a
Speaker 1: successful liar because you do not have a good enough memory.
Speaker 1: You can't cover all these trails.
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna slip, you will.
Speaker 1: So friends and her boyfriend, everyone they were starting to
Speaker 1: grow weary and suspicious that something was up. Wade's family
Speaker 1: in particular, noticed that Taylor's body wasn't looking like a
Speaker 1: pregnant woman's body typically does, especially in the final stages
Speaker 1: of pregnancy. Her stories didn't quite add up, especially when
Speaker 1: she seemed reluctant to let anyone accompany her to appointments
Speaker 1: or see any official paper. But Taylor just doubled down.
Speaker 1: She told Wade that she had a condition causing the
Speaker 1: baby to sit high inner abdomen, which explained why she
Speaker 1: didn't quote look very pregnant because you know, in the
Speaker 1: later stages of pregnancy, the belly starts to drop right,
Speaker 1: things like that. She also claimed she was receiving specialized
Speaker 1: prenatal care from a high risk OBG. How do you
Speaker 1: say that, obgyn? Or do you? Is like, do you?
Speaker 2: How do you? Obgyn?
Speaker 1: Okay? I wasn't sure if you actually say every letter
Speaker 1: or if like you read it like obigin or something.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm pretty sure it's like obgyn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, you can tell we haven't had kids before.
Speaker 1: So but she yeah, claimed she had this high risk
Speaker 1: obgyn and convinced him that everything was just, you know,
Speaker 1: progressing normally. As her frank pregnancy neared its supposed conclusion,
Speaker 1: Taylor's Internet history revealed a chilling amount of signs of
Speaker 1: the things to come now. Of course, these are things
Speaker 1: that would come out later in an investigation, but her
Speaker 1: search history included things like how to face pregnancy, how
Speaker 1: to perform a C section at home, how to make
Speaker 1: yourself look pregnant, fake baby ultrasound images, women near me
Speaker 1: do October twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Yeah, that's disturbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's actually actively searching for expecting mothers in her area,
Speaker 1: especially those close to her fake do date. Now, at
Speaker 1: some point in mid twenty twenty, her attention turned towards
Speaker 1: a woman named Reagan Hancock. She was a young Bunner
Speaker 1: mother of you know, someone that she kind of knew
Speaker 1: a little bit, and her pregnancy was about thirty three
Speaker 1: weeks in for her second child. Now, the two women
Speaker 1: had cross paths before in a casual way, but they
Speaker 1: weren't really friends enough to like follow on social media
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Okay, so they connected briefly when Taylor
Speaker 1: had offered to do a maternity session for Reagan at
Speaker 1: one point and had canceled. Yeah so a maternity photos shoot?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is she for talkographer in some way? I guess? Okay,
Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware, she's not a professional photographer,
Speaker 1: but maybe a hobbyist who does some photo sessions or
Speaker 1: maybe you know, looking to become professional build her portfolio
Speaker 1: or yeah. Yeah, but regardless, the photo session never happened,
Speaker 1: but it was enough for them to know who each
Speaker 1: other are at this point, so Taylor kept tabs on
Speaker 1: Reagan's social media. She knew Reagan's name, her family set
Speaker 1: up her address, and most importantly, her due date. Those
Speaker 1: close to Taylor later described how she became increasingly fixated
Speaker 1: on her own fake pregnancy and on other women who
Speaker 1: were truly expecting. She was spending hours looking through pregnancy forms,
Speaker 1: tracking people that she did not know, and there was
Speaker 1: a strange intensity behind her interest in maternity, babies, in motherhoods.
Speaker 1: Right with of course Reagan becoming the center of all
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: Well does she not work? How does she have time
Speaker 2: for all this? And didn't she already have? She already
Speaker 2: had two kids, didn't she?
Speaker 1: She did, But I'm not too sure how they play
Speaker 1: into her life. I don't by the sounds of it,
Speaker 1: they weren't living with her. And this is purely my speculation.
Speaker 1: I didn't dive into where her children were or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but it seems to me like her children
Speaker 1: are probably not in her full custody, just from an assumption.
Speaker 2: Okay, which maybe there's a good reason for that.
Speaker 1: Hey, Yeah, Now I do know that she was working.
Speaker 1: I don't know what she was doing as a profession,
Speaker 1: but she was working at times, and many times she
Speaker 1: was phoning and sick because Hey, you know what pregnancy is, right,
Speaker 1: things happening, doctor's appointments, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, she's just at home obsessing over the internet and
Speaker 2: other people who are pregnant.
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Now, when all this is going on, her
Speaker 1: boyfriend Wade began pressuring her to finalize baby preparations. You know,
Speaker 1: her due dates approaching. It's coming fast. He was excited
Speaker 1: to become a father, and Taylor, by now was fully
Speaker 1: entrenched in this deception, and she realized her lie couldn't
Speaker 1: stretch any further. She was out of time, out of
Speaker 1: excuse uses, and out of options. And that's when she
Speaker 1: went and shifted things from pretending to planning her next
Speaker 1: move would turn from a compulsive liar to her being
Speaker 1: a cold blooded killer.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I guess there comes a point where
Speaker 2: you're just so desperate that you need this sly to
Speaker 2: be true.
Speaker 1: And that's what it was from her. It just like
Speaker 1: the other fake pregnancies before they're gonna find out, they're
Speaker 1: gonna find out, But this time she's determined to make
Speaker 1: it a reality.
Speaker 2: But geez, to just go about you know, hurting someone else,
Speaker 2: that's such a turn.
Speaker 1: That's what she's about to do so. On the morning
Speaker 1: of October ninth, twenty twenty, it began like any other
Speaker 1: quiet day in the town of New Boston, Texas, the
Speaker 1: community of just under five thousand people about one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty miles northeast of Dallas. Reagan Hancock was home
Speaker 1: with her three year old daughter, Kinley. She'd been up
Speaker 1: early preparing for the day. Reagan's mother, Jessica Brooks, had
Speaker 1: tried to call and check in, but she got no response, and,
Speaker 1: feeling uneasy, she decided to drive over. Meanwhile, Taylor was
Speaker 1: already on the move, carrying a scalpel, a fake pregnancy belly,
Speaker 1: and a twisted plan. She just headed directly for Reagan's house.
Speaker 1: Just after nine am, Taylor entered Reagan's home. The exact
Speaker 1: events of what happened inside are pieced together from blood
Speaker 1: evidence and forensics, and the horrifying scene that the investigators
Speaker 1: would later document. Reagan was bludgeoned and stabbed repeatedly inside
Speaker 1: her own home. She suffered over one hundred injuries, including
Speaker 1: blunt force trauma to her head believed to be caused
Speaker 1: by a hammer, and numerous defensive wounds on her hands
Speaker 1: and arms. Investigators determined that she fought for her life,
Speaker 1: moving through the house trying to escape, all while her
Speaker 1: daughter Kin was inside as well.
Speaker 2: Shoot, she was fighting for her life and her unborn
Speaker 2: baby's life. Correct for the love of Oh my gosh. Okay.
Speaker 1: At some point during the attack, Taylor used a scalpel
Speaker 1: to slice open Reagan's abdomen, cutting her from hip to
Speaker 1: hip in a crude attempt to remove the unborn child.
Speaker 1: Despite the trauma, it is believed Reagan may have still
Speaker 1: been alive and awake during the procedure.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, from hip to hip. Yes, okay, this
Speaker 2: is just this is a frickin' This isn't worse than
Speaker 2: a nightmare. I don't even think anyone could dream this shit. Right,
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's fucked up.
Speaker 2: That is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Now, they're not exactly sure how she gained entrying to
Speaker 1: the home. It's they assume most likely Reagan let her in,
Speaker 1: probably because she's such a welcoming and kind individual and
Speaker 1: trusted her and she's liked, oh, what do you do,
Speaker 1: I'll come on in for coffee something like that, right.
Speaker 2: Like she would ever imagine what was about to happen
Speaker 2: exactly so.
Speaker 1: Taylor likely though we don't know for sure, likely knocked
Speaker 1: on the door. She opened the door, was greeted and
Speaker 1: was kind, and then when she entered the home, the
Speaker 1: assault began.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is this is.
Speaker 1: Just unreal now. Once she had extracted the baby girl
Speaker 1: from her abdomen, later named Braclin Hancock, Taylor fled the home,
Speaker 1: leaving Reagan's body laying there on the floor in.
Speaker 2: A pool of blood, with her other child still just
Speaker 2: running around.
Speaker 1: With her other child still in the house man, she
Speaker 1: carried the baby a bilical cord still attached out to
Speaker 1: her car and began driving north, crossing into Oklahoma. At
Speaker 1: around ten thirty am, just a few hours after the
Speaker 1: brutal attack in New Boston, Texas, Taylor was pulled over
Speaker 1: by a State Texas trooper in DeKalb Texas, about ten
Speaker 1: miles from Louisiana and the border. She was driving erratically
Speaker 1: and speeding, prompting the traffic stop by a state trooper,
Speaker 1: and what he saw when he pulled her over was disturbing.
Speaker 1: He approached the vehicle, Taylor was there behind the wheel,
Speaker 1: covered in blood, appeared frantic and claimed that she'd just
Speaker 1: given birth on the side of the road, and in
Speaker 1: her arms was a newborn baby girl, unresponsive and pale.
Speaker 2: Oh man, okay, yeah, because I'm like, is this baby
Speaker 2: gonna survive? It's young.
Speaker 1: She told the trooper the baby was struggling to breathe
Speaker 1: and it needed urgent medical care. Emergency responders rushed to
Speaker 1: the scene, but something didn't feel right. The baby's condition
Speaker 1: didn't match her story. There is no amniotic fluid in
Speaker 1: the car, no signs of labor, and the baby was
Speaker 1: already cold to the touch.
Speaker 2: Oh no.
Speaker 1: Still, paramedics began performing CPR and rushed both Taylor and
Speaker 1: the infant to McCurtain's Memorial Hospital in Idabel, Oklahoma. While
Speaker 1: this was happening, Reagan's mother, Jessica, arrived at the family home.
Speaker 2: Oh Boy.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, she couldn't get in touch with her daughter,
Speaker 1: and she instinctively knew something was wrong. What she found
Speaker 1: confirmed her worst fears. There was blood on the driveway,
Speaker 1: blood on the door, and bloody fingerprints on the handle. Inside,
Speaker 1: she found her daughter face down in the living room,
Speaker 1: soaked in blood. Reagan was already dead and her abdomen
Speaker 1: sliced open, with her baby gone.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. I cannot even imagine a mother coming across
Speaker 2: like coming into a scene like that.
Speaker 1: I know now Kinley, her three year old daughter, thankfully
Speaker 1: was found alive and unharmed. She was hiding under a
Speaker 1: blanket in her bedroom. Traumatized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she would have been trauma. Hopefully she doesn't remember
Speaker 2: any of that, but.
Speaker 1: So Jessica immediately called nine to one one and soon
Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers and local police were on the scene,
Speaker 1: and it didn't take long to realize they were dealing
Speaker 1: with not just a homicide, but also a kidnapping and
Speaker 1: possibly a second murder. Meanwhile, Taylor's story began to fall
Speaker 1: apart quickly as she's talking to you. The first responders
Speaker 1: and the park ranger at the scene. She was brought
Speaker 1: to the McCurtain's Memorial Hospital, and the emergency personnel and
Speaker 1: doctors noted several critical inconsistencies in her story. No physical
Speaker 1: signs of childbirth, there were no contractions that she was having,
Speaker 1: there's no after birth, and no trauma to her uterus.
Speaker 1: Lab tests showed no recent pregnancies. Her hormone levels were
Speaker 1: consistent with someone who had not been pregnant for a
Speaker 1: very long time, if ever at all. In fact, she
Speaker 1: even refused internal examination, which immediately raised red flags for
Speaker 1: both medical and law enforcement staff. The umbilical core of
Speaker 1: the baby was not properly cut or clamped, and there
Speaker 1: was no medical equipment or supplies in the car, which
Speaker 1: I mean may show that it was an unexpected situation
Speaker 1: of giving birth, but still there was no sign showing
Speaker 1: she had actually given birth. What so ever. When hospital
Speaker 1: staff called the investigators from the Texas Rangers, the story
Speaker 1: began to shift. Under pressure from investigators, Taylor finally admitted
Speaker 1: that no, she had not given birth, but rather than
Speaker 1: tell the truth, she spun another wild lie.
Speaker 2: Well, of course she did. She can't possibly say what
Speaker 2: she actually did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What she told investigators was that Reagan had invited
Speaker 1: her over, they got into an argument, and that Reagan
Speaker 1: had somehow injured herself in a freak accident and then
Speaker 1: begged Taylor to take her baby before she died.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Okay, that is probably the worst lie I've
Speaker 2: ever heard in my whole entire life. That is just I'm.
Speaker 1: Real, it's beyond far fetched.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, that doesn't even make any sense.
Speaker 1: No one believed it, of course, of course, and the
Speaker 1: evidence pointing towards something much more sinister was overwhelming. Despite
Speaker 1: the best efforts of first responders and the staff at
Speaker 1: the hospital, baby Braxlen would not make it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, are you serious.
Speaker 1: Braxlin died shortly after arrival at the hospital. She never
Speaker 1: stood a chance.
Speaker 2: Oh dang, I was so hopeful that it would have
Speaker 2: been a miracle. There.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Back at reaganhand Cox's home, investigators were arriving at
Speaker 1: the scene and it was beyond gruesome. Blood covered the walls, floors, appliances.
Speaker 1: It was clear Reagan fought hard to survive and protect
Speaker 1: herself and her unborn child. She had been beaten, she'd
Speaker 1: been stabbed and ultimately cut open, and they were now
Speaker 1: looking at the aftermath. Investigators quickly ruled the death of
Speaker 1: homicide in a kidnapping, and when they matched the timeline
Speaker 1: and the identity of the baby in Taylor's care at
Speaker 1: the hospital, it was clear to authorities what had happened.
Speaker 1: She murdered Reagan, cut her baby from her womb, and
Speaker 1: tried to pass it off as her own.
Speaker 2: Imagine Reagan's husband, he just probably at work and to
Speaker 2: even comprehend this story in his mind. I know of
Speaker 2: what just happened to his wife and baby.
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, both men in the situation. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they have it worse off than well, no.
Speaker 2: I agree to with what perspective. Shit going on there too, Wade.
Speaker 1: Wade's expecting that he's now a father and he just
Speaker 1: realizes his girlfriend, who is supposed to be carrying his daughter,
Speaker 1: is a murderer who cut open another woman to steal
Speaker 1: a child and kill them both in the process. And
Speaker 1: then on the other hand, you have Reagan's husband, who, yeah,
Speaker 1: at work now just learns that your wife was just
Speaker 1: killed and your newborn baby, who hasn't even been born
Speaker 1: yet was also killed and stolen stolen. That is two
Speaker 1: completely different fucked up things.
Speaker 2: To happen both of those. I just I don't even
Speaker 2: think that you could comprehend what was going on.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I think.
Speaker 2: I would be like, is this a joke? Like? Are
Speaker 2: you serious?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, is Ashton Kutcher punking me right now?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I just freaking aged myself, you did, But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: unbelievable to think of being in that situation for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, by the afternoon of October ninth, Taylor was formally
Speaker 1: arrested and charged with capital murder and kidnapping. Her online
Speaker 1: activity of searches on how to perform c section, instructions
Speaker 1: on how to fake a pregnancy, articles of abduction of infants,
Speaker 1: and how to avoid detection. It all painted the gruesome
Speaker 1: picture of a premeditated attack, and it was all done
Speaker 1: to maintain the lie that she had told her boyfriend
Speaker 1: Wade and others as well, that she was pregnant with
Speaker 1: his child. The trial of Taylor Rhianne Parker began in
Speaker 1: September of twenty twenty two in Bowie County, Texas, nearly
Speaker 1: two years after the brutal murder of Reagan Hancock and
Speaker 1: the abduction of her unborn daughter, Braxon Sage. It was
Speaker 1: a case drenched in deception, grief, and horror, and it
Speaker 1: would soon become one of the most whole ye profile
Speaker 1: cases that the state has seen in years. Taylor was
Speaker 1: formally charged with capital murder, kidnapping, and tampering with a
Speaker 1: human corpse. Officially, given the premeditated nature of the crime
Speaker 1: and the death of not just Reagan but also Braxln,
Speaker 1: prosecutors sought the death penalty.
Speaker 2: Whoa okay.
Speaker 1: The defense hoped to spare Taylor's life, pushing for a
Speaker 1: sentence of life in prison without parole instead. Now, during
Speaker 1: the trial, a fellow inmate of Taylor's because members she
Speaker 1: sat behind bar for a couple of years. Yeah so,
Speaker 1: a fellow inmate of Taylor's at the Bowie County Jail,
Speaker 1: Shay Yeager, testified that Taylor had admitted details to the
Speaker 1: crime while in custody. According to Shay, they revealed she
Speaker 1: originally tried to use a kitchen knife from Reagan's home. However,
Speaker 1: it was ineffective, so she went back to her car,
Speaker 1: retrieved the scalpel that she had brought with her, then
Speaker 1: iced open Reagan, and after removing her infant, she placed
Speaker 1: Braxln next to Reagan to say, quote goodbye for her.
Speaker 2: Oh what.
Speaker 1: So? Reagan most likely still alive at this point, though
Speaker 1: I'm not sure conscious or unconscious, had her unborn child
Speaker 1: placed next to her. The murderer, this monster mocked a
Speaker 1: goodbye to your mommy sort of situation, then took her
Speaker 1: child and left her to die, and then killed her
Speaker 1: unborn child in the process. Because of lack of medical
Speaker 1: care and what she just fucking.
Speaker 2: Did Oh, okay, that is that is just a terrible visual.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a detail that left the courtroom stunned
Speaker 1: in silence during the trial.
Speaker 2: Oh shit.
Speaker 1: Now, while the defense later tried to question the motive
Speaker 1: behind Shay Yeager's testimony on this, there was no compensation
Speaker 1: or plea deals that were to it, so her claims
Speaker 1: had no weight. She had no reason to be saying this,
Speaker 1: you know, like to try and get herself out of
Speaker 1: jail sooner or anything. And it aligned disturbingly well with
Speaker 1: the forensic evidence that was left behind of the scene.
Speaker 1: So it is very likely that this is a true
Speaker 1: picture of what happened.
Speaker 2: Gosh, that is so sad. I wonder if Reagan was conscious.
Speaker 2: I feel like she probably wouldn't have been, but h.
Speaker 1: I mean most likely not. Even if she was conscious
Speaker 1: when the cutting began, most likely she would have passed
Speaker 1: out due to the pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still now.
Speaker 1: The autopsy report also confirmed what investigators already suspected. This
Speaker 1: was a cold methodic killing. Reagan suffered over one hundred injuries,
Speaker 1: including blunt forced trauma to the head and face, stab
Speaker 1: wounds on her neck, chest, abdomen, a deep horizontal incision
Speaker 1: across her stomach, not medically executed, but violent and crude
Speaker 1: defensive zuns on her hands and arms, which indicated a
Speaker 1: fierce attempt to fight back. The official cause of death
Speaker 1: was a combination of blood loss and trauma from the assault.
Speaker 1: Baby Braxlin was delivered alive, but likely suffered severe oxygen
Speaker 1: deprivation during the assault or shortly afterwards, and despite life
Speaker 1: saving efforts at the hospital, she was pronounced dead the
Speaker 1: same day.
Speaker 2: Reagan was also probably terrified too for her other kid.
Speaker 2: That was oh definitely no, I bet you she thought
Speaker 2: she was quite in danger too. Now.
Speaker 1: The prosecution's case was methodical and relentless. Lead prosecutor Kelly
Speaker 1: Crisp laid out a detailed timeline of how Taylor spent
Speaker 1: months building up an illusion and how when the truth
Speaker 1: threatened to unravel, she made a horrific decision to commit
Speaker 1: the murder. They painted Taylor as a manipulative liar with
Speaker 1: a long history of deception, a woman who studied how
Speaker 1: to fake pregnancies and perform a sea section, and someone
Speaker 1: who deliberately chose a victim Reagan and executed a calculated
Speaker 1: plan to kill her and still steal her unborn baby.
Speaker 1: The jury was shown photos of the blood soaked crime scene,
Speaker 1: Reagan's defensive wounds, the baby's trauma, and the items found
Speaker 1: in Taylor's possession, including the scalpel she brought with her
Speaker 1: to the home. They also showed the Internet search history,
Speaker 1: which was a digital smoking gun. Taylor's defense team faced
Speaker 1: an uphill battle. Their strategy hinged on mental instability, in
Speaker 1: the idea that Taylor was a troubled woman pushing pushed
Speaker 1: to the brink by infertility, rejection, and years of emotional trauma.
Speaker 1: They argued that she had a history of complex migraine,
Speaker 1: some possible brain damage, specifically from the frontal lobe, which
Speaker 1: influences decision making and impulsive control. She was raised in
Speaker 1: a chaotic home. They argued that she suffered emotional issues
Speaker 1: from an early age. The crime, while horrific, was not premeditated,
Speaker 1: they said, but they suggested that it was the result
Speaker 1: of a sudden psychotic break impulsive act.
Speaker 2: I think it was premeditated, oh, one hundred percent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe not for you know, it seemed like it was
Speaker 2: for at least like a week span, Oh definitely, don't know,
Speaker 2: probably even a little longer.
Speaker 1: Put it this way, even if you take the account
Speaker 1: of all the search history out the fact that she
Speaker 1: drove to Reagan's home with the scalpel. Yeah shows intent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, it does.
Speaker 1: Now this argument clashed sharply with all the prosecutions mountains
Speaker 1: of evidence. Like I said, the scalpel alone, there's the
Speaker 1: month's long charade of her saying that she's pregnant, not
Speaker 1: the search histories. I mean, there's several key moments from
Speaker 1: this trial that struck in her with jurors and the public,
Speaker 1: like and they knew one hundred percent that this being
Speaker 1: quote unquote not premeditated was bullshit. Now. Jessica Brooks, Reagan's mother,
Speaker 1: testified about the day she found her daughter's mutilated body.
Speaker 1: Her raw and emotional description of seeing Reagan's face down,
Speaker 1: Reagan face down in a pool of blood and it, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It left the courtroom in tears. I'm just
Speaker 1: going to cut short of that. Her husband, Homer Hancock,
Speaker 1: he could barely speak at his statement when he was
Speaker 1: reading it aloud. He described holding Braxlin for the first time,
Speaker 1: already gone cold and lifeless, and how the future he
Speaker 1: and Reagan had planned was stolen from him.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that I couldn't imagine sitting there and having
Speaker 2: to listen to these I.
Speaker 1: Know there was corrections officers and jail staff who testified
Speaker 1: to Taylor's manipulative and confrontational behavior behind bars. Because she
Speaker 1: went on too fake medical symptoms and threats. And we'll
Speaker 1: get into that.
Speaker 2: A bit, she like continued, Yes, whatever game she was
Speaker 2: playing in jail.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'll touch on it here. Don't worry. Then,
Speaker 1: of course, the fellow inmate, Shay Yeager, who went on
Speaker 1: to tell the court the details that Taylor talked about
Speaker 1: while behind bars.
Speaker 2: Imagine having to share a cell hearing these stories of
Speaker 2: what this person did.
Speaker 1: Surprise she survived because people like that generally don't really
Speaker 1: survive in jail. Yeah, because even criminals look at you
Speaker 1: and like you did what to a child?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So now, throughout the trial, Taylor's behavior drew scrutiny. She
Speaker 1: often cried, especially when photos were shown, but prosecutors argued
Speaker 1: her tears were self pity and not remorse. She never
Speaker 1: testified in her own defense either. When the guilty verdict
Speaker 1: came out on December third of twenty twenty two, Taylor
Speaker 1: showed no visible reaction. Then on November ninth, twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: After just over an hour of deliberation, the jury in
Speaker 1: Bowie County reached their final decision for sentencing. Taylor Reen
Speaker 1: Parker was sentenced to death for the capital murder of
Speaker 1: Reagan Hancock and her unborn daughter, Braxln Sage. It was
Speaker 1: the first death sentence handed down to a woman in
Speaker 1: Texas in nearly a decade. Jurors were attasked with answering
Speaker 1: two critical questions during the Senate. Was Taylor likely to
Speaker 1: commit future acts of violence that would pose a threat
Speaker 1: to society?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: And were there any mitigation circumstances that were warranted a
Speaker 1: sentence of life in prison instead of death. They answered
Speaker 1: yes to the first and no to the second.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: In the end, the evidence, the planning, the tools that
Speaker 1: she brought with her, the callousness that she acted upon,
Speaker 1: her behavior after room afterwards, it left little room for
Speaker 1: any sort of mercy. Taylor was expressionless as a sentence
Speaker 1: was read outloud. The witnesses noted she began to shake
Speaker 1: and quietly cried when her fate was officially finalized. The
Speaker 1: most powerful voice in the courtroom that day came from
Speaker 1: Reagan's family, the victims, you know. Impacted statements were heart wrenching, furious,
Speaker 1: and full of grief. Though I have many, I'm going
Speaker 1: to only just read one here. Oh manned.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Jessica Brooks, Reagan's mother, face Taylor and said this, you
Speaker 1: watched her die. My baby was alive, still fighting for
Speaker 1: her babies when you tore her open and ripped her
Speaker 1: baby from her stomach. Jessica Brooks vowed to never speak
Speaker 1: Taylor's name again, except to remind people of her evil.
Speaker 1: She spoke to Reagan's beauty, her joy, and how Braxleln
Speaker 1: had every right to take her first breath in love
Speaker 1: and not in violence.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Reagan honestly just sounded like just an angel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Taylor Parker was transferred to Mountain View Unit in Gatesville, Texas,
Speaker 1: where all female Death Row inmates are housed. Her life
Speaker 1: now consists of twenty three hours a day in solitary
Speaker 1: confinement in a sixty square foot cell, four visits per
Speaker 1: year conducted behind glass, and four phone calls per year,
Speaker 1: each no longer than five minutes in length. Though Taylor
Speaker 1: was never formally diagnosed during the trial, her behavior years
Speaker 1: matched several traits commonly found in antisocial and narcissistic personality disorders,
Speaker 1: including pathological lying, lack of empathy, manipulative tendencies, grandiose self image,
Speaker 1: and disregard for others' rights and safety. There are also
Speaker 1: traits someone associated with psychopathy. Taylor continued to show these
Speaker 1: same behaviors behind bars. She made frequent, dramatic medical complaints
Speaker 1: that were never backed up by tests. She accused jail
Speaker 1: staff of mistreatment. She allegedly threatened other inmates, and even
Speaker 1: claimed to hear voices, but of course only ever after
Speaker 1: being denied privileges.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, the life that she's living is like no
Speaker 2: life at all anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and which is still too good for her in
Speaker 1: my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that would I feel like that
Speaker 2: would make anyone just go mad completely right. She was
Speaker 2: already she already was, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now. In short, she acted like someone still trying to
Speaker 1: stay in control, even when she she had none herself none.
Speaker 1: The murder of Reagan Hancock and the abduction of her
Speaker 1: unborn child left deep scars on her family, the community,
Speaker 1: and the wider public. This was more than just a
Speaker 1: shocking crime. It was a case that challenged how we
Speaker 1: understand trust, maternal safety, and the dangers of unchecked deception.
Speaker 1: This case is a painful reminder that sometimes the most
Speaker 1: dangerous threats don't come from strangers. They come from people
Speaker 1: we believe we can trust. Taylor Parker didn't just take lives.
Speaker 1: She stole joy, peace, and the future from an entire family.
Speaker 1: But through their grief, Reagan's loved ones have shown extraordinary strength,
Speaker 1: and by telling this story and by continuing to speak
Speaker 1: her name, they're making sure that what was lost that
Speaker 1: day will never be forgotten. And that's the story of
Speaker 1: Reagan and Braxlin Hancock.
Speaker 2: Hmm, that is just so shitty. Also, terrible timing of
Speaker 2: this story being that it's like Mother's Day on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even think of that. Yeah, oh shit,
Speaker 1: Yeah not bad.
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean any like thoughts of stories involved
Speaker 2: like kids and moms and stuff.
Speaker 1: But frigg. Oh, that was really bad timing. Actually shit,
Speaker 1: I should not have done this case when I did. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's on me.
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's yeah, I don't know it. I was
Speaker 2: thinking about that a lot through it. But anyway, happy
Speaker 2: Mother's day, just kidding, just kidding, Oh that's so bad,
Speaker 2: it's so bad.
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, no, it's it's a reminder, you know, like
Speaker 1: you you never you never guaranteed anything, No, so celebrate
Speaker 1: those little things with your loved ones when you can.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and enjoy like every day, every moment you
Speaker 2: have with your kids and stuff. So yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 2: that Reagon just seemed like just such a star, like
Speaker 2: she just like, I don't know your descriptions and other
Speaker 2: people's descriptions, she just liked, and this piece of garbage
Speaker 2: just took that completely away from everyone.
Speaker 1: Worse than garbage obviously, like worse.
Speaker 2: Then worse then Yeah. Yeah, I could say a lot
Speaker 2: of things, but people are like you Smar too much.
Speaker 1: So I love we fucking hate this bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly. And it's interesting. One other thing I kind
Speaker 2: of thought too, is like she's she's googling, you know,
Speaker 2: how to do a C section and all this shit,
Speaker 2: But did she google like what would happen to her
Speaker 2: if she got caught or like anything afterwards? Yeah, she
Speaker 2: didn't think this through whatsoever. And I'm assuming she's just
Speaker 2: like waiting, sitting there on death row. She's probably not
Speaker 2: even gonna actually get killed.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I guess the fact that she's just
Speaker 1: in solitary confinement and stuff, yet she's not gonna I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone has access to her, probably for that reason.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, like oh man, I okay, yeah, I just
Speaker 2: and probably the guards having to deal with her and
Speaker 2: stuff too, right, is not because she's saying that she's
Speaker 2: not being treated well, but she is probably terrible to
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 1: Probably. I also just don't understand, like okay, and I
Speaker 1: mean I kind of understand to some degree because she's
Speaker 1: not thinking of the future. She's taking it like as
Speaker 1: it comes, because that's how you do when you lie.
Speaker 1: You just deal with it as it comes, and you're
Speaker 1: not thinking about repercussions or future scenarios or anything. But
Speaker 1: you just, quote unquote to her fake story, gave birth
Speaker 1: to a child. What's gonna happen when you know your
Speaker 1: mom is like, but you had a hysterectomy. What's gonna
Speaker 1: happen when that comes out? Yeah, what's gonna happen when
Speaker 1: you know what? You take the dot the quote unquote
Speaker 1: your daughter, which fuck you, it's not to the hospital
Speaker 1: get checked up, and it's like you know, you don't
Speaker 1: have a uterus, you can't bear children, like.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and like, yeah, this kid,
Speaker 2: I mean she the baby probably would have survived if
Speaker 2: she was born that early, but in like a hospital
Speaker 2: and stuff with like medical care, right, But did she
Speaker 2: just think that she could just traumatically take this baby
Speaker 2: out and it would just live and they, yeah, they
Speaker 2: would go on their merry way and like happily ever after.
Speaker 2: Like what the actual shit?
Speaker 1: Like some massive delusions in this person's mind. None of
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's completely fucked up. If you guys
Speaker 1: have listened to many episodes, you know, like I try
Speaker 1: to play Devil's Advocate when I can. I cannot place
Speaker 1: play Devil's Advocate for this individual, like at all. It
Speaker 1: does not make sense. She's fucked up. She did something
Speaker 1: I can't even wrap my mind around. And I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: She's a bitch beyond beyond a bitch.
Speaker 2: Hope she rots, well, yeah, like Reagan left her, let
Speaker 2: her in the house. I know, I've heard stories before.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because we've covered one similar
Speaker 2: where someone was like picking up baby clothes or something
Speaker 2: that they were like selling on KGGI or marketplace or something,
Speaker 2: and that's how that person got access to this lady. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just picked up something from marketplace that I bought yesterday,
Speaker 2: and like the lady was like, come in, and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, what are you doing? Don't invite me in?
Speaker 1: Did you tell her that?
Speaker 2: No, But I'm thinking that in my head because gosh,
Speaker 2: what if I was psychotic? Yeah, it would have been
Speaker 2: like such easy access for me. I'm not clearly and
Speaker 2: I but I in my mind, I was like, I
Speaker 2: wanted to help this lady, don't do this.
Speaker 1: But then if you started saying don't invite me in,
Speaker 1: I might kill you. You would have looked like a
Speaker 1: psychotic place.
Speaker 2: And I probably would have scared the shit out of her.
Speaker 2: But then she probably would never have let anyone in
Speaker 2: going forward, which so that's a win.
Speaker 1: But you probably also would have had the cops following
Speaker 1: you one way home.
Speaker 2: So I know, I don't know. We're just so trusting, right,
Speaker 2: because I mean, these stories are rare, but they do happen.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's we should be able to be trusting,
Speaker 1: is the thing. We should be able to sell something
Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace and have a stranger come up to our
Speaker 1: door and no problem. We should be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: have our door unlocked in the afternoons when we're sitting
Speaker 1: at home. We should be able to leave a window
Speaker 1: open on a hot summer night with a bleat breeze
Speaker 1: rolling in as we sleep in our bedroom. We should
Speaker 1: be able to do those things. Yeah, but unfortunately there's
Speaker 1: some fucked up people out there, like this chick who
Speaker 1: just I swear or like devils mm hmm, Like how
Speaker 1: can you be anything but when you do something like this,
Speaker 1: No kidding anyways, as Nicole said, happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 2: No, honestly, we do hope you guys have a good
Speaker 2: Mother's Day. This was the timing may have been poor,
Speaker 2: but like any other story could have, like you know,
Speaker 2: also hit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but like I said, that's on me because
Speaker 1: I did not think about that, So totally my bad.
Speaker 2: I just call you on at the end day, at
Speaker 2: least I didn't do it. I almost did it halfway
Speaker 2: through and then you would have felt like an asshole
Speaker 2: going forward. So at least I saved Itelli end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least you made me only feel like an
Speaker 1: asshole at the very end.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is paid back. If you guys are a
Speaker 2: patron uh or patron member. You're gonna know that I
Speaker 2: deserve this, so fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Anyways, short out for today, all the things in the
Speaker 1: description of this podcast. We love you. You're amazing, Thank
Speaker 1: you for being here, and until next time, stay wicked.