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<v Speaker 1>In October of twenty twenty, a young pregnant mother was

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<v Speaker 1>found murdered in her texts home, her unborn baby cut

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<v Speaker 1>from her womb and taken. Just hours later, Taylor Parker

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<v Speaker 1>was pulled over miles away, claiming she had just given

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<v Speaker 1>birth on the roadside. But Taylor wasn't a new mother.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a woman desperate to keep up a lie

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<v Speaker 1>that had spiraled into bloodshed. This is the chilling story

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<v Speaker 1>of deception, obsession, and one of the most shocking crimes

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<v Speaker 1>in recent memory. This is the story of Reagan and

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<v Speaker 1>Braxlin Hancock.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast material more mature audience listener. How did

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<v Speaker 1>I sound on that intro?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I okay? Things sound different to me. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my new headphones and it's not I'm not used to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>You got some fancy new gear over there, Look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's fancy as my last ones.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't like them as much. I don't too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really like my other ones. I had them

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time and they don't make those ones anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to go with a different style or

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<v Speaker 1>a different you know, make model, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That does suck. So many companies do that. They have

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<v Speaker 2>a good product or good item and then they just

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<v Speaker 2>change it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you gotta, I don't know, it's consumerism, right, just

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<v Speaker 1>try and get people to get the newest the l

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<v Speaker 1>that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe I should have like scouted eBay

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<v Speaker 1>to see if I could have found a pair or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they might have had them on there. Mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I got new ones too, because I have like a

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<v Speaker 2>ticking I can think. I can't remember if we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this in apprecio or apps or are regular episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a regular episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We and so I have like some like tapping ticking

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<v Speaker 2>in my ear and it's quite quite annoying. But we

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<v Speaker 2>got new ones for me too, But it didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>with a chord, so I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're Bluetooth only, don't have an OX cord. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now I gotta wait for some new ones

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<v Speaker 2>to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you still hear the ticking right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Periodically? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Dang, but my brain has just gotten used to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I think a little bit fair enough. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that says about my sanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the ticking isn't in the headphones, it's just in

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<v Speaker 1>your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just no, it's definitely the headphone.

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<v Speaker 1>You sure it's not just the ticking down to the

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<v Speaker 1>day that you snap.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I hear this before I fall asleep

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<v Speaker 2>at night. Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like Captain Hook from Peter Pan and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hear the tick tick right of Yep. Anyways, we got

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<v Speaker 1>quite the show today for you guys, No kidding, if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't hear the intro, Yeah, this is This is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be another one of those trigger warning episodes because

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<v Speaker 1>we have a woman who had her unborn child stolen

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<v Speaker 1>from her and yet yeah, it was taken out of

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<v Speaker 1>her body. So let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're all every single episode needs to have

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<v Speaker 2>a trigger warning, which is why we have our generic

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<v Speaker 2>one at the start. Yes, but I guess this one

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<v Speaker 2>may affect a little bit more some more people than

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<v Speaker 2>the average I guess like anyone that's a mother, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much anyone with a who's a mother, anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>has you know, children of a young age or expecting

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<v Speaker 1>or want. The list goes on. It's just a very

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive topic. Not that we don't discuss sensitive topics, but

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I was just gonna be like anyone that

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<v Speaker 2>has a heart. But that's that's pretty much all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, fair enough. Yeah, specifically warning on this one because

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<v Speaker 1>it is very sensitive to that topic. So if you're ready,

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<v Speaker 1>we can keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So Reagan Hancock was just twenty one years old

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<v Speaker 1>when her life was stolen in the most brutal and

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<v Speaker 1>unimaginable way. She wasn't a public figure or someone who

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<v Speaker 1>was a living a high profile life. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>young mother, a wife, a daughter, and a sister who

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<v Speaker 1>radiated kindness and warmth. What happened to her not only

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<v Speaker 1>shattered her family, but also deeply unsettled the community of

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<v Speaker 1>Boston New Boston, Texas. She was born on November fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight. Reagan Simon's Hancock was her full name.

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<v Speaker 1>She grew up in New Hope, Arkansas, and later settled

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<v Speaker 1>in New Boston, Texas, a quiet, tight knit town with

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<v Speaker 1>a population of just under five thousand people. Her parents,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica and Brandon Simmons, divorced when she was young, but

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan remained close with both sides of her extended fe family.

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<v Speaker 1>She had siblings, step parents, and a huge support network

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding her. Her home life was full of laughter, shared meals,

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<v Speaker 1>and a constant communication. She and her mom texted every day,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of bond that was unshakable, you know. Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>was known for being gentle, nurturing, and most importantly, welcoming.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends and family described her as someone who made other

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<v Speaker 1>feels They feeled safe, They felt safe and included when

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<v Speaker 1>they were around her. She had a way of making

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<v Speaker 1>friends very fast with anyone, and she gave people the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of the doubt even when maybe she probably shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>In her late teens, Reagan met Homer Hancock and they

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<v Speaker 1>quickly fell in love. The couple married in September of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen and were already raising their daughter, Kinley together.

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan embraced motherhood wholeheartedly. Her social media was full of

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of her daughter with you know, baby giggles, birthday cakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and sunny days at the park, and in August of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, she shared the news that she was pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>with her second child, a baby girl. They planned to

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<v Speaker 1>name Braxlin Sage Hancock.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool name, Actually it is. She was thirty four weeks

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant in October twenty twenty. Excited to welcome her second

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<v Speaker 1>daughter into the world. She had her hospital bag packed,

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<v Speaker 1>the nursery was almost done. She was glowing, not just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the pregnancy, but because she was full of hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's sidetrack a little bit and introduce another person

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<v Speaker 1>into the story. Her name is Taylor Parker and she

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<v Speaker 1>was born in nineteen eighty nine and raised in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents, Snoah Prior and Mark Morton, divorced in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five. During the early years after they split,

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<v Speaker 1>her family tried a fifty to fifty custody arrangement, each

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<v Speaker 1>parent alternating you know, weeks at the family home with

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. You know that sort of thing, right. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't last long, though, tensions ran high and arguments were

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed by the children. Eventually, Taylor began spending more time

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<v Speaker 1>with her father and grandmother. According to those close to her,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor struggled with weight issues from a young age, she

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly used food as an emotional crutch, and much like

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<v Speaker 1>her grandmother. You know it seemed to like run into

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<v Speaker 1>the family because her grandmother relied on food just like

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<v Speaker 1>the same now. By the age of fourteen, she weighed

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<v Speaker 1>over two hundred and fifty pounds and was deeply unhappy

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<v Speaker 1>with her appearance. However, in twenty fourteen, she underwent a

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<v Speaker 1>gastric bypass surgery in Mexico to address her obesity. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>though Taylor's problems weren't limited to her body and body image,

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<v Speaker 1>she as she grew older, a pattern of deception began

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge, small lies at first, but they grew more

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<v Speaker 1>elaborate over time. She often fabricated stories about her health,

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<v Speaker 1>family life, and accomplishments to gain sympathy or attention, whichever

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<v Speaker 1>she really seemed to prefer at the time. Friends and

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<v Speaker 1>acquaintances would later describe her as someone who is always

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<v Speaker 1>seeking validation, often in manipulative ways. By her late teens,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor had dropped at a high school, and soon she

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<v Speaker 1>became pregnant. She gave birth to her first child, a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>at just seventeen years old. The child's father was reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>not involved in their lives, and later she married Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>Sells and had a second child, a son, But after

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<v Speaker 1>his birth, she made a significant and permanent decision. She

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<v Speaker 1>underwent tubule legation, or she had her tubes tied, preventing

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<v Speaker 1>further pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so she decided she didn't want any more kiddos.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct. That wasn't the end of her reproductive surgeries, though.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty fifteen, after being hospitalized for pelvic pain, doctors

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<v Speaker 1>discovered an ectopic pregnancy and performed an emergency hysterectomy.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang.

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<v Speaker 1>So what this means basically is it's a pregnancy which

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<v Speaker 1>occurs with a fertilized egg that implants and grows outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the main cavity of the uterus. So most likely

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<v Speaker 1>it's typically found within like a fallopian tube.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so not a healthy pregnancy whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, super dangerous. Kind of scary for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So with her emergency hysterectomy, she had a complete removal

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<v Speaker 1>of her uterus. The procedure, though necessary for her safety,

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<v Speaker 1>left Taylor unable to carry any more children. While her

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<v Speaker 1>mother and then husband approved of the surgery while she

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<v Speaker 1>was under anesthesia at the time, Taylor would later express

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<v Speaker 1>anger over this decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was one that she technically was not did

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<v Speaker 1>not make. Okay, so she was under anesthesia they discovered

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<v Speaker 1>this and it's like, okay, we got to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they approved did the surgery. So she woke up

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<v Speaker 1>to the hysterectomy being proved.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitch I mean they were making that decision for her benefit,

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<v Speaker 2>like to save her. And but and it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>too because she did have her.

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<v Speaker 1>Her tubes tied, which, if I'm not mistaken though it is.

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<v Speaker 2>A reverse I think it is. Yeah. So but they

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<v Speaker 2>probably were like, oh, like she doesn't want to have

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<v Speaker 2>any more kids or whatever, but clearly that had changed

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<v Speaker 2>in her mind at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially, Yes, And honestly, it's basically a life saving decision

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<v Speaker 1>that they made. I can understand her being upset for

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<v Speaker 1>not having that autonomy on herself, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's someone looking out for like this could kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so that's that's why they made that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand both sides of the coin in that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure they made it out of love to

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, regardless of how she felt when she first

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on. It didn't matter because despite what had

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<v Speaker 1>actually happened, despite the surgery she went through, she kept

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<v Speaker 1>that fact of that surgery secret from any future partners.

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<v Speaker 1>So she did not tell them that she had a

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<v Speaker 1>hysterectomy and that she was unable to carry children.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so clearly this destroyed her her current relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, overtime tale lies intensified. She told people she

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<v Speaker 1>had multiple scolerosis, a history of strokes, blood clotting disorders,

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<v Speaker 1>and even cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>She joined support groups for conditions she didn't have, and

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<v Speaker 1>faked medical paperwork to back up those claims. This wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>multiple relationships. She would claim to be expecting, then fabricate

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<v Speaker 1>miscarriages or stillbirths, which in itself is fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, what was she doing, like just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the times? Yeah wow? Yeah, Now, each

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty nineteen, Taylor began dating a man by the

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<v Speaker 1>She told Wade she came from oil money, had expensive properties,

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, she's poor pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once again she said she was pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 1>this time it would go further than any of the

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<v Speaker 1>other lies had gone before. Taylor spared no effort in

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<v Speaker 1>crafting the illusion of a pregnancy. She posted ultrasound photos online,

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<v Speaker 1>which were of course doctored, bought a prosthetic pregnancy belly,

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<v Speaker 1>and attended fake doctor appointments. Her social media showed maternity photos,

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<v Speaker 1>due dates, and even baby name announcements, and Wade believed it,

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<v Speaker 1>so did much of her inner circle with her friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But by mid twenty twenty, cracks were starting to show

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<v Speaker 1>her body didn't match the pregnancy claims. Her behavior became

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<v Speaker 1>a radic and Taylor had boxed herself into a corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Now As I mentioned, she convinced her boyfriend Wade, that

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<v Speaker 1>she was pregnant with this child. It was a lie

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<v Speaker 1>that was at this point beginning to reach an expiration date.

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<v Speaker 1>With the HYS direct me now five years behind her

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<v Speaker 1>and a fabricated due date that's fast approaching, Taylor began

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<v Speaker 1>to spiral deeper into a fantasy that she could no

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<v Speaker 1>longer sustain from the outside. Yeah, she appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>another expecting mother. She posted on her socials with her

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<v Speaker 1>whole journey of being pregnancy, with all the photos, the ultrasounds,

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<v Speaker 1>do dates, all the things that I've already mentioned. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>she even had a baby shower, inviting friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate the upcoming birth of the baby girl, who

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<v Speaker 1>she claims she was going to name Clancy Gaale.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my word, hey, like, how can you just do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's collecting gifts and shit from people, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yeah, she's collecting gifts, She's posting fake ultrasounds

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<v Speaker 1>onogram like all this sort of stuff, and she's continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to do it and knowing that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a point where there is a point of no return,

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<v Speaker 1>will figure this out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I'm imagining too. If she already had mental

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<v Speaker 2>health issues, this is only going to make them just worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and everything she's going through, any question someone has,

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<v Speaker 1>she's fabricating another lie to cover that trailang And I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said it to quote,

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<v Speaker 1>no man has a good enough memory to be a

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<v Speaker 1>successful liar, and by man, of course human. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever sex you want to be or gender doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>you still fall in that category. And this is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the same case. She is not going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>successful liar because you do not have a good enough memory.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't cover all these trails.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're gonna slip, you will.

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<v Speaker 1>So friends and her boyfriend, everyone they were starting to

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<v Speaker 1>grow weary and suspicious that something was up. Wade's family

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, noticed that Taylor's body wasn't looking like a

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant woman's body typically does, especially in the final stages

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<v Speaker 1>of pregnancy. Her stories didn't quite add up, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>she seemed reluctant to let anyone accompany her to appointments

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<v Speaker 1>or see any official paper. But Taylor just doubled down.

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<v Speaker 1>She told Wade that she had a condition causing the

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<v Speaker 1>didn't quote look very pregnant because you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>later stages of pregnancy, the belly starts to drop right,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. She also claimed she was receiving specialized

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<v Speaker 1>prenatal care from a high risk OBG. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, obgyn? Or do you? Is like, do you?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you? Obgyn?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? I wasn't sure if you actually say every letter

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<v Speaker 1>or if like you read it like obigin or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm pretty sure it's like obgyn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, you can tell we haven't had kids before.

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<v Speaker 1>So but she yeah, claimed she had this high risk

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<v Speaker 1>obgyn and convinced him that everything was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>progressing normally. As her frank pregnancy neared its supposed conclusion,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor's Internet history revealed a chilling amount of signs of

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<v Speaker 1>the things to come now. Of course, these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that would come out later in an investigation, but her

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<v Speaker 1>search history included things like how to face pregnancy, how

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<v Speaker 1>to perform a C section at home, how to make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself look pregnant, fake baby ultrasound images, women near me

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<v Speaker 1>do October twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, Yeah, that's disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's actually actively searching for expecting mothers in her area,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those close to her fake do date. Now, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in mid twenty twenty, her attention turned towards

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Reagan Hancock. She was a young Bunner

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<v Speaker 1>mother of you know, someone that she kind of knew

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and her pregnancy was about thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks in for her second child. Now, the two women

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<v Speaker 1>had cross paths before in a casual way, but they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't really friends enough to like follow on social media

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Okay, so they connected briefly when Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>had offered to do a maternity session for Reagan at

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<v Speaker 1>one point and had canceled. Yeah so a maternity photos shoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she for talkographer in some way? I guess? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm aware, she's not a professional photographer,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe a hobbyist who does some photo sessions or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, looking to become professional build her portfolio

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah. Yeah, but regardless, the photo session never happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was enough for them to know who each

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<v Speaker 1>other are at this point, so Taylor kept tabs on

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan's social media. She knew Reagan's name, her family set

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<v Speaker 1>up her address, and most importantly, her due date. Those

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<v Speaker 1>close to Taylor later described how she became increasingly fixated

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<v Speaker 1>on her own fake pregnancy and on other women who

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<v Speaker 1>were truly expecting. She was spending hours looking through pregnancy forms,

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<v Speaker 1>tracking people that she did not know, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a strange intensity behind her interest in maternity, babies, in motherhoods.

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<v Speaker 1>Right with of course Reagan becoming the center of all

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well does she not work? How does she have time

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<v Speaker 2>for all this? And didn't she already have? She already

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<v Speaker 2>had two kids, didn't she?

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<v Speaker 1>She did, But I'm not too sure how they play

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<v Speaker 1>into her life. I don't by the sounds of it,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't living with her. And this is purely my speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't dive into where her children were or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but it seems to me like her children

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<v Speaker 1>are probably not in her full custody, just from an assumption.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, which maybe there's a good reason for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Yeah, Now I do know that she was working.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what she was doing as a profession,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was working at times, and many times she

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<v Speaker 1>was phoning and sick because Hey, you know what pregnancy is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>things happening, doctor's appointments, that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, she's just at home obsessing over the internet and

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<v Speaker 2>other people who are pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much. Now, when all this is going on, her

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend Wade began pressuring her to finalize baby preparations. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>her due dates approaching. It's coming fast. He was excited

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<v Speaker 1>to become a father, and Taylor, by now was fully

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<v Speaker 1>entrenched in this deception, and she realized her lie couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stretch any further. She was out of time, out of

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<v Speaker 1>excuse uses, and out of options. And that's when she

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<v Speaker 1>went and shifted things from pretending to planning her next

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<v Speaker 1>move would turn from a compulsive liar to her being

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<v Speaker 1>a cold blooded killer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, I guess there comes a point where

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<v Speaker 2>you're just so desperate that you need this sly to

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<v Speaker 2>be true.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what it was from her. It just like

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<v Speaker 1>the other fake pregnancies before they're gonna find out, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find out, But this time she's determined to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a reality.

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<v Speaker 2>But geez, to just go about you know, hurting someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>that's such a turn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she's about to do so. On the morning

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<v Speaker 1>of October ninth, twenty twenty, it began like any other

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<v Speaker 1>quiet day in the town of New Boston, Texas, the

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<v Speaker 1>community of just under five thousand people about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty miles northeast of Dallas. Reagan Hancock was home

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<v Speaker 1>with her three year old daughter, Kinley. She'd been up

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<v Speaker 1>early preparing for the day. Reagan's mother, Jessica Brooks, had

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<v Speaker 1>tried to call and check in, but she got no response, and,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling uneasy, she decided to drive over. Meanwhile, Taylor was

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<v Speaker 1>already on the move, carrying a scalpel, a fake pregnancy belly,

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<v Speaker 1>and a twisted plan. She just headed directly for Reagan's house.

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<v Speaker 1>Just after nine am, Taylor entered Reagan's home. The exact

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<v Speaker 1>events of what happened inside are pieced together from blood

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<v Speaker 1>evidence and forensics, and the horrifying scene that the investigators

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<v Speaker 1>would later document. Reagan was bludgeoned and stabbed repeatedly inside

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<v Speaker 1>her own home. She suffered over one hundred injuries, including

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<v Speaker 1>blunt force trauma to her head believed to be caused

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<v Speaker 1>by a hammer, and numerous defensive wounds on her hands

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<v Speaker 1>and arms. Investigators determined that she fought for her life,

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<v Speaker 1>moving through the house trying to escape, all while her

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<v Speaker 1>daughter Kin was inside as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot, she was fighting for her life and her unborn

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<v Speaker 2>baby's life. Correct for the love of Oh my gosh. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point during the attack, Taylor used a scalpel

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<v Speaker 1>to slice open Reagan's abdomen, cutting her from hip to

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<v Speaker 1>hip in a crude attempt to remove the unborn child.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the trauma, it is believed Reagan may have still

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<v Speaker 1>been alive and awake during the procedure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, from hip to hip. Yes, okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just this is a frickin' This isn't worse than

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<v Speaker 2>a nightmare. I don't even think anyone could dream this shit. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>That is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, they're not exactly sure how she gained entrying to

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<v Speaker 1>the home. It's they assume most likely Reagan let her in,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because she's such a welcoming and kind individual and

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<v Speaker 1>trusted her and she's liked, oh, what do you do,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come on in for coffee something like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she would ever imagine what was about to happen

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<v Speaker 2>exactly so.

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor likely though we don't know for sure, likely knocked

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<v Speaker 1>on the door. She opened the door, was greeted and

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<v Speaker 1>was kind, and then when she entered the home, the

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<v Speaker 1>assault began.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, this is this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just unreal now. Once she had extracted the baby girl

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<v Speaker 1>from her abdomen, later named Braclin Hancock, Taylor fled the home,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Reagan's body laying there on the floor in.

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<v Speaker 2>A pool of blood, with her other child still just

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<v Speaker 2>running around.

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<v Speaker 1>With her other child still in the house man, she

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<v Speaker 1>carried the baby a bilical cord still attached out to

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<v Speaker 1>her car and began driving north, crossing into Oklahoma. At

425
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<v Speaker 1>around ten thirty am, just a few hours after the

426
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<v Speaker 1>brutal attack in New Boston, Texas, Taylor was pulled over

427
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<v Speaker 1>by a State Texas trooper in DeKalb Texas, about ten

428
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<v Speaker 1>miles from Louisiana and the border. She was driving erratically

429
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<v Speaker 1>and speeding, prompting the traffic stop by a state trooper,

430
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<v Speaker 1>and what he saw when he pulled her over was disturbing.

431
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<v Speaker 1>He approached the vehicle, Taylor was there behind the wheel,

432
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<v Speaker 1>covered in blood, appeared frantic and claimed that she'd just

433
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<v Speaker 1>given birth on the side of the road, and in

434
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<v Speaker 1>her arms was a newborn baby girl, unresponsive and pale.

435
00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, okay, yeah, because I'm like, is this baby

436
00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna survive? It's young.

437
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.839
<v Speaker 1>She told the trooper the baby was struggling to breathe

438
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 1>and it needed urgent medical care. Emergency responders rushed to

439
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the scene, but something didn't feel right. The baby's condition

440
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't match her story. There is no amniotic fluid in

441
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<v Speaker 1>the car, no signs of labor, and the baby was

442
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<v Speaker 1>already cold to the touch.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Oh no.

444
00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Still, paramedics began performing CPR and rushed both Taylor and

445
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the infant to McCurtain's Memorial Hospital in Idabel, Oklahoma. While

446
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<v Speaker 1>this was happening, Reagan's mother, Jessica, arrived at the family home.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Oh Boy.

448
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:05.759
<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, she couldn't get in touch with her daughter,

449
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<v Speaker 1>and she instinctively knew something was wrong. What she found

450
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 1>confirmed her worst fears. There was blood on the driveway,

451
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>blood on the door, and bloody fingerprints on the handle. Inside,

452
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<v Speaker 1>she found her daughter face down in the living room,

453
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<v Speaker 1>soaked in blood. Reagan was already dead and her abdomen

454
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<v Speaker 1>sliced open, with her baby gone.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit. I cannot even imagine a mother coming across

456
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<v Speaker 2>like coming into a scene like that.

457
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I know now Kinley, her three year old daughter, thankfully

458
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>was found alive and unharmed. She was hiding under a

459
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<v Speaker 1>blanket in her bedroom. Traumatized.

460
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she would have been trauma. Hopefully she doesn't remember

461
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<v Speaker 2>any of that, but.

462
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.519
<v Speaker 1>So Jessica immediately called nine to one one and soon

463
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<v Speaker 1>the Texas Rangers and local police were on the scene,

464
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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't take long to realize they were dealing

465
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<v Speaker 1>with not just a homicide, but also a kidnapping and

466
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>possibly a second murder. Meanwhile, Taylor's story began to fall

467
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>apart quickly as she's talking to you. The first responders

468
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and the park ranger at the scene. She was brought

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<v Speaker 1>to the McCurtain's Memorial Hospital, and the emergency personnel and

470
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<v Speaker 1>doctors noted several critical inconsistencies in her story. No physical

471
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<v Speaker 1>signs of childbirth, there were no contractions that she was having,

472
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<v Speaker 1>there's no after birth, and no trauma to her uterus.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Lab tests showed no recent pregnancies. Her hormone levels were

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<v Speaker 1>consistent with someone who had not been pregnant for a

475
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<v Speaker 1>very long time, if ever at all. In fact, she

476
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<v Speaker 1>even refused internal examination, which immediately raised red flags for

477
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>both medical and law enforcement staff. The umbilical core of

478
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the baby was not properly cut or clamped, and there

479
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.079
<v Speaker 1>was no medical equipment or supplies in the car, which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean may show that it was an unexpected situation

481
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>of giving birth, but still there was no sign showing

482
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:06.319
<v Speaker 1>she had actually given birth. What so ever. When hospital

483
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 1>staff called the investigators from the Texas Rangers, the story

484
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>began to shift. Under pressure from investigators, Taylor finally admitted

485
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<v Speaker 1>that no, she had not given birth, but rather than

486
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<v Speaker 1>tell the truth, she spun another wild lie.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course she did. She can't possibly say what

488
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 2>she actually did.

489
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What she told investigators was that Reagan had invited

490
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 1>her over, they got into an argument, and that Reagan

491
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>had somehow injured herself in a freak accident and then

492
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>begged Taylor to take her baby before she died.

493
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Okay, that is probably the worst lie I've

494
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>ever heard in my whole entire life. That is just I'm.

495
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Real, it's beyond far fetched.

496
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, that doesn't even make any sense.

497
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>No one believed it, of course, of course, and the

498
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>evidence pointing towards something much more sinister was overwhelming. Despite

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<v Speaker 1>the best efforts of first responders and the staff at

500
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the hospital, baby Braxlen would not make it.

501
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, are you serious.

502
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Braxlin died shortly after arrival at the hospital. She never

503
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 1>stood a chance.

504
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh dang, I was so hopeful that it would have

505
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 2>been a miracle. There.

506
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Back at reaganhand Cox's home, investigators were arriving at

507
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the scene and it was beyond gruesome. Blood covered the walls, floors, appliances.

508
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It was clear Reagan fought hard to survive and protect

509
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 1>herself and her unborn child. She had been beaten, she'd

510
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>been stabbed and ultimately cut open, and they were now

511
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 1>looking at the aftermath. Investigators quickly ruled the death of

512
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 1>homicide in a kidnapping, and when they matched the timeline

513
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and the identity of the baby in Taylor's care at

514
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the hospital, it was clear to authorities what had happened.

515
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 1>She murdered Reagan, cut her baby from her womb, and

516
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>tried to pass it off as her own.

517
00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Imagine Reagan's husband, he just probably at work and to

518
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 2>even comprehend this story in his mind. I know of

519
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 2>what just happened to his wife and baby.

520
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly, both men in the situation. Don't get me wrong.

521
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that they have it worse off than well, no.

522
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 2>I agree to with what perspective. Shit going on there too, Wade.

523
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Wade's expecting that he's now a father and he just

524
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>realizes his girlfriend, who is supposed to be carrying his daughter,

525
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 1>is a murderer who cut open another woman to steal

526
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 1>a child and kill them both in the process. And

527
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>then on the other hand, you have Reagan's husband, who, yeah,

528
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 1>at work now just learns that your wife was just

529
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>killed and your newborn baby, who hasn't even been born

530
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>yet was also killed and stolen stolen. That is two

531
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>completely different fucked up things.

532
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 2>To happen both of those. I just I don't even

533
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>think that you could comprehend what was going on.

534
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I think.

535
00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I would be like, is this a joke? Like? Are

536
00:28:58.880 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 2>you serious?

537
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like, is Ashton Kutcher punking me right now?

538
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

539
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I just freaking aged myself, you did, But yeah, it's

540
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable to think of being in that situation for real.

541
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

542
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>So, by the afternoon of October ninth, Taylor was formally

543
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 1>arrested and charged with capital murder and kidnapping. Her online

544
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 1>activity of searches on how to perform c section, instructions

545
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>on how to fake a pregnancy, articles of abduction of infants,

546
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and how to avoid detection. It all painted the gruesome

547
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>picture of a premeditated attack, and it was all done

548
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to maintain the lie that she had told her boyfriend

549
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Wade and others as well, that she was pregnant with

550
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>his child. The trial of Taylor Rhianne Parker began in

551
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>September of twenty twenty two in Bowie County, Texas, nearly

552
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>two years after the brutal murder of Reagan Hancock and

553
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 1>the abduction of her unborn daughter, Braxon Sage. It was

554
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 1>a case drenched in deception, grief, and horror, and it

555
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 1>would soon become one of the most whole ye profile

556
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>cases that the state has seen in years. Taylor was

557
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 1>formally charged with capital murder, kidnapping, and tampering with a

558
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 1>human corpse. Officially, given the premeditated nature of the crime

559
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 1>and the death of not just Reagan but also Braxln,

560
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>prosecutors sought the death penalty.

561
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Whoa okay.

562
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>The defense hoped to spare Taylor's life, pushing for a

563
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>sentence of life in prison without parole instead. Now, during

564
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the trial, a fellow inmate of Taylor's because members she

565
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 1>sat behind bar for a couple of years. Yeah so,

566
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a fellow inmate of Taylor's at the Bowie County Jail,

567
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Shay Yeager, testified that Taylor had admitted details to the

568
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>crime while in custody. According to Shay, they revealed she

569
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.119
<v Speaker 1>originally tried to use a kitchen knife from Reagan's home. However,

570
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it was ineffective, so she went back to her car,

571
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>retrieved the scalpel that she had brought with her, then

572
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 1>iced open Reagan, and after removing her infant, she placed

573
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Braxln next to Reagan to say, quote goodbye for her.

574
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh what.

575
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 1>So? Reagan most likely still alive at this point, though

576
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure conscious or unconscious, had her unborn child

577
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>placed next to her. The murderer, this monster mocked a

578
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>goodbye to your mommy sort of situation, then took her

579
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.519
<v Speaker 1>child and left her to die, and then killed her

580
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>unborn child in the process. Because of lack of medical

581
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>care and what she just fucking.

582
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Did Oh, okay, that is that is just a terrible visual.

583
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was a detail that left the courtroom stunned

584
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in silence during the trial.

585
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit.

586
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Now, while the defense later tried to question the motive

587
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>behind Shay Yeager's testimony on this, there was no compensation

588
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 1>or plea deals that were to it, so her claims

589
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 1>had no weight. She had no reason to be saying this,

590
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, like to try and get herself out of

591
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 1>jail sooner or anything. And it aligned disturbingly well with

592
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the forensic evidence that was left behind of the scene.

593
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>So it is very likely that this is a true

594
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>picture of what happened.

595
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, that is so sad. I wonder if Reagan was conscious.

596
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 2>I feel like she probably wouldn't have been, but h.

597
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean most likely not. Even if she was conscious

598
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>when the cutting began, most likely she would have passed

599
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:36.599
<v Speaker 1>out due to the pain.

600
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still now.

601
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>The autopsy report also confirmed what investigators already suspected. This

602
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was a cold methodic killing. Reagan suffered over one hundred injuries,

603
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>including blunt forced trauma to the head and face, stab

604
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>wounds on her neck, chest, abdomen, a deep horizontal incision

605
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 1>across her stomach, not medically executed, but violent and crude

606
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 1>defensive zuns on her hands and arms, which indicated a

607
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>fierce attempt to fight back. The official cause of death

608
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was a combination of blood loss and trauma from the assault.

609
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Baby Braxlin was delivered alive, but likely suffered severe oxygen

610
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>deprivation during the assault or shortly afterwards, and despite life

611
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 1>saving efforts at the hospital, she was pronounced dead the

612
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 1>same day.

613
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Reagan was also probably terrified too for her other kid.

614
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 2>That was oh definitely no, I bet you she thought

615
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>she was quite in danger too. Now.

616
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>The prosecution's case was methodical and relentless. Lead prosecutor Kelly

617
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Crisp laid out a detailed timeline of how Taylor spent

618
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>months building up an illusion and how when the truth

619
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>threatened to unravel, she made a horrific decision to commit

620
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the murder. They painted Taylor as a manipulative liar with

621
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a long history of deception, a woman who studied how

622
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to fake pregnancies and perform a sea section, and someone

623
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>who deliberately chose a victim Reagan and executed a calculated

624
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>plan to kill her and still steal her unborn baby.

625
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>The jury was shown photos of the blood soaked crime scene,

626
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Reagan's defensive wounds, the baby's trauma, and the items found

627
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 1>in Taylor's possession, including the scalpel she brought with her

628
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to the home. They also showed the Internet search history,

629
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>which was a digital smoking gun. Taylor's defense team faced

630
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>an uphill battle. Their strategy hinged on mental instability, in

631
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the idea that Taylor was a troubled woman pushing pushed

632
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to the brink by infertility, rejection, and years of emotional trauma.

633
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 1>They argued that she had a history of complex migraine,

634
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>some possible brain damage, specifically from the frontal lobe, which

635
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>influences decision making and impulsive control. She was raised in

636
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a chaotic home. They argued that she suffered emotional issues

637
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>from an early age. The crime, while horrific, was not premeditated,

638
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they said, but they suggested that it was the result

639
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden psychotic break impulsive act.

640
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it was premeditated, oh, one hundred percent. Yeah,

641
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe not for you know, it seemed like it was

642
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>for at least like a week span, Oh definitely, don't know,

643
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 2>probably even a little longer.

644
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Put it this way, even if you take the account

645
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of all the search history out the fact that she

646
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>drove to Reagan's home with the scalpel. Yeah shows intent?

647
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, yeah, it does.

648
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Now this argument clashed sharply with all the prosecutions mountains

649
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of evidence. Like I said, the scalpel alone, there's the

650
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>month's long charade of her saying that she's pregnant, not

651
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the search histories. I mean, there's several key moments from

652
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>this trial that struck in her with jurors and the public,

653
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 1>like and they knew one hundred percent that this being

654
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote not premeditated was bullshit. Now. Jessica Brooks, Reagan's mother,

655
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>testified about the day she found her daughter's mutilated body.

656
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Her raw and emotional description of seeing Reagan's face down,

657
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Reagan face down in a pool of blood and it, yeah,

658
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it was. It left the courtroom in tears. I'm just

659
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 1>going to cut short of that. Her husband, Homer Hancock,

660
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.559
<v Speaker 1>he could barely speak at his statement when he was

661
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>reading it aloud. He described holding Braxlin for the first time,

662
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>already gone cold and lifeless, and how the future he

663
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and Reagan had planned was stolen from him.

664
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that I couldn't imagine sitting there and having

665
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>to listen to these I.

666
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Know there was corrections officers and jail staff who testified

667
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to Taylor's manipulative and confrontational behavior behind bars. Because she

668
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 1>went on too fake medical symptoms and threats. And we'll

669
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 1>get into that.

670
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 2>A bit, she like continued, Yes, whatever game she was

671
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>playing in jail.

672
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I'll touch on it here. Don't worry. Then,

673
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>of course, the fellow inmate, Shay Yeager, who went on

674
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to tell the court the details that Taylor talked about

675
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 1>while behind bars.

676
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Imagine having to share a cell hearing these stories of

677
00:36:57.960 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 2>what this person did.

678
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Surprise she survived because people like that generally don't really

679
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 1>survive in jail. Yeah, because even criminals look at you

680
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and like you did what to a child?

681
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

682
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So now, throughout the trial, Taylor's behavior drew scrutiny. She

683
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>often cried, especially when photos were shown, but prosecutors argued

684
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>her tears were self pity and not remorse. She never

685
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>testified in her own defense either. When the guilty verdict

686
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>came out on December third of twenty twenty two, Taylor

687
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>showed no visible reaction. Then on November ninth, twenty twenty two,

688
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 1>After just over an hour of deliberation, the jury in

689
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Bowie County reached their final decision for sentencing. Taylor Reen

690
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Parker was sentenced to death for the capital murder of

691
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Reagan Hancock and her unborn daughter, Braxln Sage. It was

692
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the first death sentence handed down to a woman in

693
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Texas in nearly a decade. Jurors were attasked with answering

694
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 1>two critical questions during the Senate. Was Taylor likely to

695
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 1>commit future acts of violence that would pose a threat

696
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to society?

697
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

698
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>And were there any mitigation circumstances that were warranted a

699
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>sentence of life in prison instead of death. They answered

700
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>yes to the first and no to the second.

701
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

702
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>In the end, the evidence, the planning, the tools that

703
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>she brought with her, the callousness that she acted upon,

704
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>her behavior after room afterwards, it left little room for

705
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>any sort of mercy. Taylor was expressionless as a sentence

706
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was read outloud. The witnesses noted she began to shake

707
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 1>and quietly cried when her fate was officially finalized. The

708
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>most powerful voice in the courtroom that day came from

709
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Reagan's family, the victims, you know. Impacted statements were heart wrenching, furious,

710
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and full of grief. Though I have many, I'm going

711
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to only just read one here. Oh manned.

712
00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

713
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Brooks, Reagan's mother, face Taylor and said this, you

714
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>watched her die. My baby was alive, still fighting for

715
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>her babies when you tore her open and ripped her

716
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>baby from her stomach. Jessica Brooks vowed to never speak

717
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Taylor's name again, except to remind people of her evil.

718
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 1>She spoke to Reagan's beauty, her joy, and how Braxleln

719
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>had every right to take her first breath in love

720
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and not in violence.

721
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, Reagan honestly just sounded like just an angel.

722
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Taylor Parker was transferred to Mountain View Unit in Gatesville, Texas,

723
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>where all female Death Row inmates are housed. Her life

724
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 1>now consists of twenty three hours a day in solitary

725
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 1>confinement in a sixty square foot cell, four visits per

726
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 1>year conducted behind glass, and four phone calls per year,

727
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>each no longer than five minutes in length. Though Taylor

728
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>was never formally diagnosed during the trial, her behavior years

729
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>matched several traits commonly found in antisocial and narcissistic personality disorders,

730
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>including pathological lying, lack of empathy, manipulative tendencies, grandiose self image,

731
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and disregard for others' rights and safety. There are also

732
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 1>traits someone associated with psychopathy. Taylor continued to show these

733
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>same behaviors behind bars. She made frequent, dramatic medical complaints

734
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.039
<v Speaker 1>that were never backed up by tests. She accused jail

735
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>staff of mistreatment. She allegedly threatened other inmates, and even

736
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 1>claimed to hear voices, but of course only ever after

737
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 1>being denied privileges.

738
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, the life that she's living is like no

739
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>life at all anymore.

740
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and which is still too good for her in

741
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 1>my opinion.

742
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think that would I feel like that

743
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 2>would make anyone just go mad completely right. She was

744
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>already she already was, I guess. Yeah.

745
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Now. In short, she acted like someone still trying to

746
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>stay in control, even when she she had none herself none.

747
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>The murder of Reagan Hancock and the abduction of her

748
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 1>unborn child left deep scars on her family, the community,

749
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and the wider public. This was more than just a

750
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>shocking crime. It was a case that challenged how we

751
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 1>understand trust, maternal safety, and the dangers of unchecked deception.

752
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>This case is a painful reminder that sometimes the most

753
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>dangerous threats don't come from strangers. They come from people

754
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>we believe we can trust. Taylor Parker didn't just take lives.

755
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>She stole joy, peace, and the future from an entire family.

756
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>But through their grief, Reagan's loved ones have shown extraordinary strength,

757
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and by telling this story and by continuing to speak

758
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.760
<v Speaker 1>her name, they're making sure that what was lost that

759
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>day will never be forgotten. And that's the story of

760
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Reagan and Braxlin Hancock.

761
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, that is just so shitty. Also, terrible timing of

762
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.559
<v Speaker 2>this story being that it's like Mother's Day on Sunday.

763
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't even think of that. Yeah, oh shit,

764
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah not bad.

765
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Well no, I mean any like thoughts of stories involved

766
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>like kids and moms and stuff.

767
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>But frigg. Oh, that was really bad timing. Actually shit,

768
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I should not have done this case when I did. Okay,

769
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's on me.

770
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, it's yeah, I don't know it. I was

771
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 2>thinking about that a lot through it. But anyway, happy

772
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Mother's day, just kidding, just kidding, Oh that's so bad,

773
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>it's so bad.

774
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly, no, it's it's a reminder, you know, like

775
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you you never you never guaranteed anything, No, so celebrate

776
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 1>those little things with your loved ones when you can.

777
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and enjoy like every day, every moment you

778
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>have with your kids and stuff. So yeah, yeah, because

779
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that Reagon just seemed like just such a star, like

780
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>she just like, I don't know your descriptions and other

781
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>people's descriptions, she just liked, and this piece of garbage

782
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 2>just took that completely away from everyone.

783
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Worse than garbage obviously, like worse.

784
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Then worse then Yeah. Yeah, I could say a lot

785
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 2>of things, but people are like you Smar too much.

786
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So I love we fucking hate this bitch.

787
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, honestly. And it's interesting. One other thing I kind

788
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 2>of thought too, is like she's she's googling, you know,

789
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>how to do a C section and all this shit,

790
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But did she google like what would happen to her

791
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>if she got caught or like anything afterwards? Yeah, she

792
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't think this through whatsoever. And I'm assuming she's just

793
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 2>like waiting, sitting there on death row. She's probably not

794
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 2>even gonna actually get killed.

795
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean, I guess the fact that she's just

796
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>in solitary confinement and stuff, yet she's not gonna I

797
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone has access to her, probably for that reason.

798
00:43:56.440 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, like oh man, I okay, yeah, I just

799
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and probably the guards having to deal with her and

800
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff too, right, is not because she's saying that she's

801
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 2>not being treated well, but she is probably terrible to

802
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 2>deal with.

803
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Probably. I also just don't understand, like okay, and I

804
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I kind of understand to some degree because she's

805
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>not thinking of the future. She's taking it like as

806
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it comes, because that's how you do when you lie.

807
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.639
<v Speaker 1>You just deal with it as it comes, and you're

808
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.599
<v Speaker 1>not thinking about repercussions or future scenarios or anything. But

809
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you just, quote unquote to her fake story, gave birth

810
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to a child. What's gonna happen when you know your

811
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 1>mom is like, but you had a hysterectomy. What's gonna

812
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 1>happen when that comes out? Yeah, what's gonna happen when

813
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what? You take the dot the quote unquote

814
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.559
<v Speaker 1>your daughter, which fuck you, it's not to the hospital

815
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 1>get checked up, and it's like you know, you don't

816
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>have a uterus, you can't bear children, like.

817
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, and like, yeah, this kid,

818
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean she the baby probably would have survived if

819
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>she was born that early, but in like a hospital

820
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 2>and stuff with like medical care, right, But did she

821
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 2>just think that she could just traumatically take this baby

822
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 2>out and it would just live and they, yeah, they

823
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 2>would go on their merry way and like happily ever after.

824
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Like what the actual shit?

825
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Like some massive delusions in this person's mind. None of

826
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. It's completely fucked up. If you guys

827
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>have listened to many episodes, you know, like I try

828
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>to play Devil's Advocate when I can. I cannot place

829
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 1>play Devil's Advocate for this individual, like at all. It

830
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>does not make sense. She's fucked up. She did something

831
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't even wrap my mind around. And I'm sorry.

832
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 1>She's a bitch beyond beyond a bitch.

833
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Hope she rots, well, yeah, like Reagan left her, let

834
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 2>her in the house. I know, I've heard stories before.

835
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because we've covered one similar

836
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 2>where someone was like picking up baby clothes or something

837
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that they were like selling on KGGI or marketplace or something,

838
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 2>and that's how that person got access to this lady. Yeah,

839
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I just picked up something from marketplace that I bought yesterday,

840
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and like the lady was like, come in, and I'm

841
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>just like, what are you doing? Don't invite me in?

842
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you tell her that?

843
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 2>No, But I'm thinking that in my head because gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>what if I was psychotic? Yeah, it would have been

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<v Speaker 2>like such easy access for me. I'm not clearly and

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<v Speaker 2>I but I in my mind, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to help this lady, don't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But then if you started saying don't invite me in,

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<v Speaker 1>I might kill you. You would have looked like a

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<v Speaker 1>psychotic place.

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<v Speaker 2>And I probably would have scared the shit out of her.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she probably would never have let anyone in

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<v Speaker 2>going forward, which so that's a win.

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<v Speaker 1>But you probably also would have had the cops following

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<v Speaker 1>you one way home.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know, I don't know. We're just so trusting, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, these stories are rare, but they do happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it's we should be able to be trusting,

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing. We should be able to sell something

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook marketplace and have a stranger come up to our

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<v Speaker 1>door and no problem. We should be able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have our door unlocked in the afternoons when we're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at home. We should be able to leave a window

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<v Speaker 1>open on a hot summer night with a bleat breeze

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<v Speaker 1>rolling in as we sleep in our bedroom. We should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do those things. Yeah, but unfortunately there's

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<v Speaker 1>some fucked up people out there, like this chick who

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<v Speaker 1>just I swear or like devils mm hmm, Like how

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<v Speaker 1>can you be anything but when you do something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>No kidding anyways, as Nicole said, happy Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>No, honestly, we do hope you guys have a good

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<v Speaker 2>Mother's Day. This was the timing may have been poor,

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<v Speaker 2>but like any other story could have, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>also hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but like I said, that's on me because

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<v Speaker 1>I did not think about that, So totally my bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I just call you on at the end day, at

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<v Speaker 2>least I didn't do it. I almost did it halfway

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<v Speaker 2>through and then you would have felt like an asshole

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<v Speaker 2>going forward. So at least I saved Itelli end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at least you made me only feel like an

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<v Speaker 1>asshole at the very end.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, this is paid back. If you guys are a

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<v Speaker 2>patron uh or patron member. You're gonna know that I

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<v Speaker 2>deserve this, so fair enough, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, short out for today, all the things in the

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<v Speaker 1>description of this podcast. We love you. You're amazing, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being here, and until next time, stay wicked.
