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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Transformation Station podcast. I'm Christina, owner, operator,

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<v Speaker 1>and founder of the Transformation Station, and this is where

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about getting stronger while navigating real life. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to stay consistent through the ups and the

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<v Speaker 1>downs and everywhere else in between.

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<v Speaker 2>This is for you, hey, listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we have an exciting guest. We have doctor Liz

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<v Speaker 1>in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, thank you for having me. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I followed you on Instagram for like a short while now,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, yeah, but I've always been intrigued, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know a few of our members here also visit you,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's and they've told me that information. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super excited to have you today on the show. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we dig in, tell the listeners and myself a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about you, if you would.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I'm My name is doctor Liz doug Leish,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a nature path and working mom of to

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful little kiddos. I have been an atropath for six

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<v Speaker 2>years and I primarily work with women in midlife and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond to help with their gut and hormones and metabolism

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<v Speaker 2>so they can live, love, work parent the way they've

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<v Speaker 2>always intended to. I love my job. I'm very passionate

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and I feel very grateful to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the space. I'm also a mom, and I have commitments

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<v Speaker 2>on the home front as well, so I and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a relatively new mom, so I'm learning myself, along with

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<v Speaker 2>my patients, how to juggle both sets of responsibilities, both

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<v Speaker 2>sets of like love and commitment. And my goal in

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<v Speaker 2>life is to be generous, right, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be generous for my community and my family and my patients.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of my modus operandi, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that you said that, like midlife and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's primarily who we serve at the Transformation station

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So we hear so many conversations about like

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<v Speaker 1>hormones and actually, someone who recently just left the gym

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<v Speaker 1>this morning as I was coming in and said like

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<v Speaker 1>the menopausal sleep, where I was like, oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that was a sign of that. Oh okay, interesting. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I hear so many different things in conversations, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I can help assist you with your

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<v Speaker 1>workouts and stuff like that, and like your prioritize protein

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<v Speaker 1>and water and all those things, but there comes to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where it's like there's more, there's more answers

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<v Speaker 1>to problems. I guess I'm going to say beyond just that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if there's one thing that you're dealing with right now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, like in the general scope of your practice,

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<v Speaker 1>what is like a common thing that you face almost

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, like the most predominant reason why people

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<v Speaker 1>come and see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask that question? Yeah, of course, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd say it's twofold. I can't just give a

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<v Speaker 2>straight answer. It's those two sets of things. So I

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<v Speaker 2>see women usually thirty five plus, and I see people

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<v Speaker 2>into their sixties, seventies, eighties as well, And I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that the big thing is like for the perimenopause experience, like,

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<v Speaker 2>are are the symptoms that they are having related to

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<v Speaker 2>that or not? Because sometimes depending on your like depending

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<v Speaker 2>on the individual, they could experience metopause or perimenopause symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>as early as they're like late thirties, right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out like, Okay, what do we have to do

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<v Speaker 2>in order to feel better? Like what are we dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with hot for dealing with hot flashes, night sweats, like

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy insomnia that sometimes people can get with those

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<v Speaker 2>Are you dealing with like things like vaginal dryness or

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<v Speaker 2>different like mood irritability swings that you've never experienced before?

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<v Speaker 2>Those questions, I would say, like a woman, if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not coming in with that directly, they know they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be experiencing it, and they've heard from their friends

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<v Speaker 2>or their mom or you know, other female relatives or

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<v Speaker 2>relatives that this could happen to them, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, is this going to be Like what's what's

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<v Speaker 2>it going to be like for me? Because every experience

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<v Speaker 2>is different, So that's definitely like number one, and then

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<v Speaker 2>number two. I would say, I deal a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>the gut health universe. So I see like tons of

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<v Speaker 2>like chronic consumpation. People are like, is this bloating normal?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I not pooping? You can tell me how

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<v Speaker 2>to get that get in here too? Yeah, yes, And

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes that can be tied to hormonal like changes throughout

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<v Speaker 2>your mental cycle and then as you transition into perimenopause

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<v Speaker 2>and menopause. So from my experience, those are like my

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<v Speaker 2>two like big like two biggest areas of expertise that

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<v Speaker 2>I see every day when I work with my patients,

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<v Speaker 2>the hormone piece and then the gut health.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, that's so interesting. It's interesting to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>from a different perspective because those are conversations that I

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<v Speaker 1>hear in here all the time. They're like, how come

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<v Speaker 1>I have severe constipation and bloating? And I'm like, oh, dear, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so like it's just such a normal thing actually, Like

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<v Speaker 1>even when you talk about like public floor issues and

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, like in the four walls of the

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<v Speaker 1>Transformation station, and I would believe like any space that

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<v Speaker 1>women are comfortable to be, there's a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>different conversations that come up, and it's nice to have

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<v Speaker 1>different avenues of people. Like I know we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>earlier and you're like, oh, if they come to me

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<v Speaker 1>with this and I'm really great at this and this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that sets my soul on fire, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do it. Or if there's something that's like

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<v Speaker 1>one percent off chance and you're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't specialize in this, but I know someone who does.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I I when I meet someone who is

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<v Speaker 1>a professional and they say that, I'm like bingo, because

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<v Speaker 1>like I know, here we don't service everybody, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very much so community over competition or if someone

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and they're looking for something specific, like the

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<v Speaker 1>network is so big, especially in Ontario, we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually know someone who I know, love and trust

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes I also work with that person where I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>check this out because this is what it is. So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that shows me that A you're very good

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<v Speaker 1>at what you do and be You're very secure and

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<v Speaker 1>confident in that. Yeah, I feel very privileged to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the naturopathic community.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're a small profession. I think there's only about

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<v Speaker 2>three to four thousand of us practicing as working with

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<v Speaker 2>patients in Canada, right, so it's a small profession. If

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the person, I know of someone who

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<v Speaker 2>knows them, and I feel very confident in that I

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm really good at and what I'm passionate about.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's like you know what, I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if someone's talking to me and I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting a vibe and then they're also telling me

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<v Speaker 2>some facts, I'm like, I think you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a great fit for so and so, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is very like unique to the profession as well,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we all want to help people, and the profession

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<v Speaker 2>is primarily female dominated too, so i'd say like eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of us are women. So we also get like

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<v Speaker 2>the need to like serve people and serve our patients

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<v Speaker 2>and also have commitments to our community, our family being parents,

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<v Speaker 2>like raising kiddos and stuff like that too. So I

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<v Speaker 2>feel very like, very privileged and very like grateful to

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<v Speaker 2>be part of the naturopathic community to be a natural

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<v Speaker 2>path because it means a lot to me to work

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<v Speaker 2>with patients and serve people this way.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's gonna lead me to my next question, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you tell us about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get into this? Like this is all

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, So okay, So, as many as with many stories,

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<v Speaker 2>mine is very nonlinear. So growing up, I always wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to work with in the agricultural industry, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>And I worked with like horses and went to school

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<v Speaker 2>for that, went to and did like an egg undergrad

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<v Speaker 2>in biology and stuff like that, and I love working

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<v Speaker 2>in that industry. But there was a couple things that

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<v Speaker 2>weren't sustainable, primarily, like it really hurt my body right,

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<v Speaker 2>like farming is not for the faint of heart. Like

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<v Speaker 2>kudos to farmers out there who do this day and

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<v Speaker 2>day out for like for generations. It's not just like

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<v Speaker 2>one person, it's a it's all usually like family, a

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<v Speaker 2>family model of business. But I also felt like in

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<v Speaker 2>my heart something was missing and I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that was. And it was a real crisis of faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was in my early to mid twenties and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd worked so hard. I gotten the degree, I was

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<v Speaker 2>working in the industry. I was working like abroad, like

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<v Speaker 2>with like sport performance animals in like the equine industry. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>And I loved it, and but also part of me

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what, like can I swear on

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<v Speaker 1>this pocket?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like what the fuck? And it was like

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? Like a real like okay, she she

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<v Speaker 2>needs to do some thinking. So at the time, I

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<v Speaker 2>was working abroad and I came back and to home

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<v Speaker 2>and I hadn't lived at home for years and years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm just going to try different jobs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I like don't know what I don't know. So

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<v Speaker 2>I worked in industrial machinery and moving. I worked as

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<v Speaker 2>a marketing professional. I worked in property management for residential

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<v Speaker 2>and commercial commercial properties. I was an executive assistant. I

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<v Speaker 2>did like you know, like planning for like events, like

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<v Speaker 2>event planning for uh, did all sorts of things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just tried stuff because I was young, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I just said yes to things. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I have no I'm not I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a marketing background. Do you want to hire me?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like yeah, And I was like okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like it was the weirdest thing, the weirdest

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<v Speaker 2>experience ever. I was like, all right, I'll just do

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say yes and figure things out and be

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<v Speaker 2>honest and upfront saying like I have no experience, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try it. And they and people I had very

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<v Speaker 2>generous like mentors and bosses in my life from that perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and while I was doing all this, I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, Okay, what the heck do I actually want

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<v Speaker 2>to do with my life? And I had seen a

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<v Speaker 2>naturopath growing up or seen bearing naturopaths in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, I always had an interest

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<v Speaker 2>in like biology, right, and the effect of nutrition on

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<v Speaker 2>human health in particular, and I was like, well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've never heard of that, Like can I what

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<v Speaker 2>if I like, could I become a naturopath? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I probably don't have like the degree

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<v Speaker 1>And I certainly didn't want to go back and do

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<v Speaker 1>another undergrad Like I was just like, no, this is crappy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was enough the first time round.

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<v Speaker 2>But I checked with the admission requirements to like the

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh this is the exact way it went.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was going to go, it was not.

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<v Speaker 2>of hemming and hawing a lot of like uncertainty. But

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that perseverance piece. If I hadn't gone

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<v Speaker 2>not that's a tough slog, like it's a long haul.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also just the ups and downs of entrepreneurship

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<v Speaker 2>everything has a purpose and you look at Hindsight twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and sometimes you're like, oh, this is like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way it's supposed to happen, and it did. But

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<v Speaker 2>also I'm like, yeah, but life is uncertain and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm very grateful for all of that, all of

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<v Speaker 2>that messiness because it wasn't as it wasn't as clean

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<v Speaker 2>cut as my story as I'm telling you it is

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<v Speaker 2>always there's always a lot of gray, always, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yes, So I think too, like you have such

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<v Speaker 1>a good personality and this is the first time actually

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<v Speaker 1>we're meeting, this is the first time we've actually sat

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<v Speaker 1>down to have a conversation. Yeah, And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>and your videos and stuff that you post. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>what's the word I'm looking for, Like very real? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like very like you show up as yourself and you're

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<v Speaker 1>I find as you're talking, I'm like, I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of parallels, like a lot of correlation between your

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<v Speaker 1>story and my story, especially like I actually owned a

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<v Speaker 1>property in Orro for a hot second, and I had horses.

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<v Speaker 1>I had five horses. I had a couple of goats.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually birthed two goats by myself on my property.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't supposed to be by myself, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>not qualified for that, and I spent more time gagging,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did it. So as you're talking to like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you know this is this horse you

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos on my artist, And like even like the entrepreneurship

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<v Speaker 1>and the gray area and the ups and the downs,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I first started my first business. I started

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<v Speaker 1>when I was seventeen inems photography, and like it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see how much stuff goes ups and downs and ups,

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<v Speaker 1>and like how you said about the marketing and as

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking, I'm like, people gave you a chance because

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<v Speaker 1>you got a great personality and you're transparent, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think those two things actually coach Annie when she's just

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<v Speaker 1>about because we talked about like, oh, like different people's

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<v Speaker 1>skills and like her skills and like matching it with

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<v Speaker 1>the personality. And in the last few podcasts, I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>so much about like I come in with a level

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what it is. Yeah, And I'm like it's

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<v Speaker 1>good because like people that have the confidence and they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to say yes, they're the ones I find that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get those opportunities to increase their skill

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<v Speaker 1>to match their confidence. Whereas if someone has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of skill and they don't have that confidence. In the

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurial world, that's just like, that's doomsday because if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the confidence to step out and do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to keep spinning your tires and you're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to move forward. And I think that also lates

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<v Speaker 1>to Actually, before I go into that, I'm laughing in

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<v Speaker 1>my head because I'm like, because working with animals and

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<v Speaker 1>mammals and humans are mammals, and I'm like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had horses. Man, you don't know. There's sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 1>go up to your horse and you're like, are you

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<v Speaker 1>having a good day or not? You're gonna boot me off?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you're gonna kick me or what are you gonna

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<v Speaker 2>Or no? I sometimes working with metapuzzle women's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, And I think, like I think that that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're okay, you're allowed to have a ship day

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<v Speaker 1>and you're and you're allowed to have a great day,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're we're humans.

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<v Speaker 2>We are dynamic beings. We are not static, same thing

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. Stuff where we want change even if

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<v Speaker 2>it is uncomfortable, and uh uh, maybe if you're screaming

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<v Speaker 2>and kicking going into it. So that's so I love

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<v Speaker 2>the love the analogy of like.

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<v Speaker 1>The like the mare like that, like yes, in heat,

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<v Speaker 1>like Chestnut Mare, Who's like I'm with like it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like take out like an appendage versus women. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to Who's like I'm hot flashing right now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done, like like no, no, this is not this

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<v Speaker 1>is not what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of my night sweats.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. I think too, Like when you're around

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<v Speaker 1>like the atmosphere and people that you're around, it's normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I go into like like a paddic, I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see not having a day today. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. Or one time I walked into a field

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<v Speaker 1>of horses. I'm gonna say there's at least eight to

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<v Speaker 1>ten horses and warm bloods, huge horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is when I was first in my horsey

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<v Speaker 1>world and I walked in with a gigantic bag of carrots.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like whipping them, throwing them. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>To the door, I'm like, I'm never doing that again.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way and I got stung with freaking electric fens.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, today's the day, Like even on the

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<v Speaker 1>gym floor, like dealing with different client hewle and different

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<v Speaker 1>personalities and ages and everything, and like all the ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs of life. I tread lightly, but I almost

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<v Speaker 1>tread like it doesn't exist. And sometimes like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>people need, Like oh, I needed that so much today,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's sometimes I'll put a feeler out and be

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<v Speaker 1>like you're good, you know good, Okay, I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>a joke and keep on walking that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like learning who your who, your your client

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<v Speaker 1>heel is, but also allowing them a space that they

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<v Speaker 1>can be comfortable. Mm hmm, yeah yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like the yeah, because exercise in itself, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's such a movement, like you're there's a release, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like an energetic release of like endorphins and you know, sweat,

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<v Speaker 2>but also like you know, the emotions around the fight

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<v Speaker 2>that you just had with your like significant other, or

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, you didn't get that job promotion or

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<v Speaker 2>you have to work extra to like meet that deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like your kid like upturned like the entire box

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<v Speaker 2>of cheerios this morning, like and you're just like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just need to get all this out.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to like let this out in order to

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<v Speaker 1>like feel remotely Okay, it's just it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I just leave the house right now. Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And I find too just to correlate that with like

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<v Speaker 1>nutrition and health and gut health. When you feel good,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do better. Yes, yeah, So like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're when you have the proper nutrients and your fiber

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<v Speaker 1>and your proteins and all your stuff that's in your

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<v Speaker 1>in your body, I feel like that's gonna when people

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit extra bounce in their step, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what is for the most part, gonna keep them going. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if someone is they're not doing well in

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<v Speaker 1>their gut health, and their hormones are all out of

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<v Speaker 1>whack and they're not sleeping, chances are they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it to a morning workout probably And if yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they're not sustaining that during the day, or

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<v Speaker 1>if they are sustaining exactly that during the day, then

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna make it to an evening workout either.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting, like it's a full circle between like

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<v Speaker 1>what you're eating for your diet, all your micronutrients, your macronutrients,

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<v Speaker 1>and also what you're doing on the gym floor. And

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<v Speaker 1>push through a workout and then they're tired, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're binging at night. And I used to be queen

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<v Speaker 1>of that myself, and then they're like, oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>my hormones. So there's sometimes I know that people are

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<v Speaker 1>just slapping a label on it without actually assessing what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Like a triple triple iced coffee from Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Horton's and a bag old cream cheese maybe once in

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<v Speaker 1>a blue moon, if that's your thing, like whatever, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>But like if that's a regular habitual routine, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>like assess what it is that you're in taking and

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<v Speaker 1>putting in your body before you even like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>night without eating.

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<v Speaker 2>a chronic underfueling problem certainly that I see within my

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<v Speaker 2>patient pool of you know, people will at breakfast or

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<v Speaker 2>like just have a coffee, they might have a light lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and then by three pm they're like ravenous, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>then between like by five onward, they're just constantly at

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<v Speaker 2>can until ten o'clock when they have to go to bed. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always work with patients, I'm like, listen, like

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<v Speaker 2>There's no right or wrong like way to get your

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<v Speaker 2>those first two windows of time to eat, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>your body's like what the heck are we going through famine?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going through crisis? Like I'm hung, like we

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<v Speaker 2>need to compensate for this, right, it doesn't know any better.

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<v Speaker 2>that's when your brain will ride things and just be

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<v Speaker 2>like eat because I don't trust where the next meal

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<v Speaker 2>you have that, when you've been doing that for years,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be tough to override that system, right, or

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<v Speaker 2>override that those mechanisms, those signals that your body will

421
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<v Speaker 2>send to each other, because when you wake up in

422
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<v Speaker 2>the morning after you've like had all of that food

423
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<v Speaker 2>at night, you're probably not as hungry, right, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's uh. And there's different nuances to like why we

425
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<v Speaker 2>do that, Like is it diet culture, is it like

426
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<v Speaker 2>condition like PCOS or pms? Is it just like you

427
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<v Speaker 2>running around like a chicken with your head cut off

428
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<v Speaker 2>in the morning to try to get kids out the door,

429
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<v Speaker 2>or you have a long ass commute to work and

430
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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh crap, Like I just need to like

431
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<v Speaker 2>grab something and get on the road, right because you've

432
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<v Speaker 2>like spent forty five minutes in bed like doom scrolling.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

434
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<v Speaker 2>There's different there's different reasons why we can do why

435
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<v Speaker 2>that happens. And that's and that's a okay, but it's

436
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<v Speaker 2>the okay. I always tell me patients, like you need

437
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<v Speaker 2>to eat something before ten am. And even if it's

438
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<v Speaker 2>like a tim's like drink right with something that's actually

439
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<v Speaker 2>like food from tims. At least that's something, and then

440
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<v Speaker 2>you need to also have a meal like two maybe

441
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<v Speaker 2>three hours later, right after that first time you've eaten,

442
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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, we can and we can talk about how

443
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<v Speaker 2>do you optimize like protein and fiber and like what

444
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<v Speaker 2>are healthy fats and like carbs are good, right, Like

445
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<v Speaker 2>don't underfuel because that carves.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I'm like tired.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Of like the like low carb train. So that's a

448
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<v Speaker 2>that's a ted talk for another day. And it's there's

449
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<v Speaker 2>lots of nuances for how to how to do it.

450
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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have this like perfectly instagramble meal

451
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<v Speaker 2>like day in and day out. In fact, I would

452
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<v Speaker 2>say that's pretty exhausting, and don't you want to spend

453
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<v Speaker 2>your time doing something else instead that's more fun quite frankly.

454
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<v Speaker 2>But there is like a base level that you just

455
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<v Speaker 2>need to eat right, and if you eat, you're eating

456
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<v Speaker 2>more frequently, and if you're eating to fuel, you will

457
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<v Speaker 2>find naturally that you're not starving by three, four or

458
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<v Speaker 2>five PM, and you feel better and you don't feel

459
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<v Speaker 2>bloated and distended as much, and you don't get like

460
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<v Speaker 2>acid reflux from like heartburn from lying down at night

461
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<v Speaker 2>because you've just like overindulged, right, right. Yeah, So there's

462
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<v Speaker 2>lots of and and that's better for your all of

463
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<v Speaker 2>your gut down the line, right, So there's lots of Yeah,

464
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<v Speaker 2>there's I think people health is very nuanced, right, Like,

465
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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of ways to go about being healthy. And

466
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<v Speaker 2>what I would recommend for, you know, a mom who's

467
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<v Speaker 2>like thirty eight working full time with like kids, it's

468
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<v Speaker 2>not the same thing I would recommend for my retiree

469
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<v Speaker 2>who's an empty nester and has lots more like time

470
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<v Speaker 2>on the go, right or comparatively to someone who's like,

471
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<v Speaker 2>you know, recently like just survived like cancer survivorship, or

472
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<v Speaker 2>who has you know, like gone through like you know,

473
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<v Speaker 2>a majorly intense divorce, and they're like, I think I

474
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<v Speaker 2>might have TTSDS from this, and like there's everything is different, right,

475
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<v Speaker 2>Everything is treated a little differently, And I don't like

476
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<v Speaker 2>the one size fits all label for that. And I

477
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<v Speaker 2>think that's the beauty of what I do. I have

478
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<v Speaker 2>the ability to sit down with people actually get to

479
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<v Speaker 2>know them as well as know like what their diagnosi

480
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<v Speaker 2>is and like all their symptoms and stuff, but actually

481
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<v Speaker 2>figure out what that ticks, what makes them tick as

482
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<v Speaker 2>a person and what they actually want out of life

483
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<v Speaker 2>and what they want in their day to day. And

484
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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want to spend a lick of time cooking,

485
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<v Speaker 2>that's a okay because we can make that work for

486
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<v Speaker 2>you and we can still fuel you so that you

487
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<v Speaker 2>feel good and you can go out and do the

488
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<v Speaker 2>things you actually want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I love that you said that. We have

490
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<v Speaker 1>a lot like our beliefs are like right here.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Besides, it's so nice.

492
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<v Speaker 1>We were like, don't come at me with his little

493
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<v Speaker 1>car bullshit, Like yes man, yes, And that's something I

494
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<v Speaker 1>see all the time with our in body scans. Actually,

495
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<v Speaker 1>this is a print out. This is not mine. This

496
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<v Speaker 1>is someone left here. I know whose it is, but

497
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it here.

498
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<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

499
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<v Speaker 1>This is the in body scan. Actually this is a

500
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<v Speaker 1>freaking phenomenal cool read.

501
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<v Speaker 2>So this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Something so at the bottom it shows your your weight,

503
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<v Speaker 1>your skeleted muscle, which is your muscle along like your spine,

504
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<v Speaker 1>like your back, your joints, your hip, your knees, and

505
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<v Speaker 1>then body fat percentage. So this person specifically, it looks

506
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<v Speaker 1>like their weight is pretty much the exact same. But

507
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<v Speaker 1>if you look, their skeleted muscle has increased. Yes, so

508
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<v Speaker 1>it's actually gone up, and their body fat decreased over

509
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<v Speaker 1>a full percentage. So that means that their weight. Yeah,

510
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<v Speaker 1>Like the home scale will show that this person's weight

511
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<v Speaker 1>is the exact same, but the intricate part is that

512
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<v Speaker 1>they've actually put on lean muscle and strength in there.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Where it matters is to mees a line of longevity

514
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<v Speaker 1>your skeleton muscle. Yeah, And I like this for my patients.

515
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<v Speaker 1>When I'm doing an embodied I want this look like

516
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<v Speaker 1>an eye. It's like a I want the weight, the

517
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<v Speaker 1>skeleton muscle, and the body fat to be kind of

518
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<v Speaker 1>like almost like in a line as opposed to like

519
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<v Speaker 1>a se So when it's a see, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough skeleton muscle relative to your weight relative to the

521
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<v Speaker 1>body fat mass. So that I think, and again, like

522
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<v Speaker 1>the the scale is one metric of multiple that I

523
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<v Speaker 1>use when trying to achieve like optimal weight loss with

524
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<v Speaker 1>patients or weight management or whatever that looks like for

525
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<v Speaker 1>the individual. And sometimes I'm like, listen, it's actually you

526
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<v Speaker 1>might not see a change on the scale, but you're

527
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<v Speaker 1>going to see a change in how you're close fit.

528
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<v Speaker 1>You might see a change in measurements of like your

529
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<v Speaker 1>hips and waist, you will definitely see changes to the

530
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<v Speaker 1>embody before any other like metric that you would you

531
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<v Speaker 1>can test on your own. And that's I think important

532
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<v Speaker 1>for patients because if they're kind of like three to

533
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<v Speaker 1>six months in starting out like some sort of like

534
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<v Speaker 1>weight management plan whatever, that looks like you're not going

535
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<v Speaker 1>to see scale changes, or if you do see scale changes,

536
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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be sustained in a year from

537
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<v Speaker 1>that point, right, There's probably going to be some rebound

538
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 1>like weight gain. There's probably going to be like changes

539
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<v Speaker 1>to the changes. It won't be they won't They.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't last, unfortunately, And that's not a person's fault by

541
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<v Speaker 2>any stretching the imagination that it has a lot to

542
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<v Speaker 2>do with genetics, and that has a lot to do

543
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<v Speaker 2>with basically this concept called metabolic adaptation. Right, So when

544
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<v Speaker 2>a person tries to lose like, let's say thirty percent

545
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<v Speaker 2>more than thirty percent from like their starting weight whatever

546
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 2>that max was outside of pregnancy, your body is going

547
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<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh shit, are we going through famine?

548
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Are we going like are we going through war? Are

549
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<v Speaker 2>we going through like a starvation period where there's not

550
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<v Speaker 2>enough resources, and it will actively your brain will actively

551
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<v Speaker 2>tell you to uh lower your basal metabolically rate, which

552
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<v Speaker 2>is like the rate of you know what you're what

553
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<v Speaker 2>you burn energy wise, just like sitting essentially day in

554
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<v Speaker 2>and day out, regardless of any other activity that you do.

555
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Your body will lower that, like that basal rate to

556
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>try to conserve your energy so that you don't die. Right, Like,

557
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>that's things you dying because because you're like you're because

558
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<v Speaker 2>they're they're concerned in the wrong long run that you're

559
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<v Speaker 2>going to run out of fuel, right and resources.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not natural.

561
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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not natural. So I let patients know. There's

562
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.079
<v Speaker 2>there's the there's a lot of misconceptions around what it

563
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>means to lose weight sustainably. There's a lot of misconceptions

564
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<v Speaker 2>around you know, what healthy could look like, right, and uh,

565
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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of you have to there's a lot

566
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<v Speaker 2>of things to unpack around yo yo dieting. Like when

567
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<v Speaker 2>was the first time you were put on a diet?

568
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Was it as a teenager? Was it as a preteen?

569
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 2>When was the first time you were told you have to.

570
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Watch your weight?

571
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>There's so much like from like a like a from

572
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 2>the psychological perspective to consider, and you don't always need

573
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<v Speaker 2>to work with like a talk therapist, although I do

574
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 2>advocate for it when required. But you have to like

575
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that there's going to be limitations to what you

576
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can do if your head is like pre programmed to

577
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>thinking I have to lose weight all the time, I'm

578
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>not skinny enough, I have to do this, I have

579
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to that, Like you're setting yourself up for failure. Yeah. Right,

580
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 2>But I love the embody. I love that you guys

581
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 2>offer it as a as a part of the gym

582
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<v Speaker 2>experience or the client experience here at Transformation Station, because

583
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not a tool. It's not it's a tool that's

584
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<v Speaker 2>really like unique and goes above and beyond what you

585
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<v Speaker 2>can see on traditional scale at home. And I argue, like,

586
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<v Speaker 2>if you just have the scale at home, like pause

587
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<v Speaker 2>it and don't use it. If you're if it's the

588
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<v Speaker 2>only metric that you want to track, get someone else

589
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>to track it for you. Work with a healthcare professional,

590
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>work with a personal trainer, work with somebody else that

591
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>can track that stuff for you if you don't have

592
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the capacity to do it yourself. Totally.

593
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always say like when people are doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like people ask me, like how often do people do

595
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>their inbody scan? I'm like, well, for myself, I try

596
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<v Speaker 1>to do it once a month, but there's sometimes ignorance

597
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 1>is bliss and I'm going three months, yeah, because I

598
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:35.079
<v Speaker 1>focus on, Hey, how do I feel? Do I have

599
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>sustainable energy? Am I more irritable or no?

600
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<v Speaker 2>Which that's highs and lows.

601
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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other ballgame with me rat at this point. Yeah,

602
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but like where's the stress management coming from? That's what

603
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bigger than myself right now. But I love

604
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the inbody because it shows like there's so much more

605
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<v Speaker 1>beyond just that number, Like the scale of the muscle

606
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<v Speaker 1>is huge. This also I love how it reassures people

607
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<v Speaker 1>as well, because people are they like, I'm scared. I'm like,

608
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 1>this is not a scale of It's not going to

609
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<v Speaker 1>tell you whether your skin is good or bad.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's always things.

611
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<v Speaker 1>If you want to look for ways to improve, you can,

612
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<v Speaker 1>But there's always a high five somewhere in the in body.

613
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Like the scale of muscle is such a big thing,

614
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<v Speaker 1>especially as we're getting older, Like this line here is

615
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 1>technically the average line for each thing, so that's based

616
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<v Speaker 1>on average, not for that exact person, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what is suggested.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the top number in this graph, I always

619
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<v Speaker 1>tell people to take a picture of it. Or I

620
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<v Speaker 1>have a book from the dollar store that has like

621
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<v Speaker 1>clear sheets in it, so I put mine and I

622
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 1>write my notes up here because there's sometimes like eh,

623
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<v Speaker 1>one week after my period or like whatever like krabby

624
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<v Speaker 1>pants or eight breakfast first or like whatever. So the

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<v Speaker 1>top number is how much muscle is in each limb,

626
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 1>and then the bottom number is how that strength is distributed.

627
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<v Speaker 1>So I love when I can see when people are like, no,

628
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<v Speaker 1>I want to see what my graph is. I want

629
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<v Speaker 1>to see where my strength is increasing, so that can

630
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>give them a high five. And then there's sometimes people

631
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 1>are looking for injury recover, so they're like, oh, let's

632
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>see like usually if someone's scan has an imbalance of

633
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<v Speaker 1>like let's say five plus percent, especially like in their

634
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 1>legs or their shoulders, because a lot of people come

635
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 1>in with like a shoulder injury or they have like

636
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>sciatica and stuff like that. So I'm like, oh, this

637
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>shows that there might have been something that happened. Like

638
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I remember when person's like a ten or twelve percent

639
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 1>difference in their legs and I'm like, oh, I'm like,

640
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>did something happen. It was a couple that came in

641
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, did something happen in your left leg

642
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>or right like whatever leg it was. And she was like, no,

643
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.319
<v Speaker 1>not really. And then the husband was like, oh, remember

644
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that time you broke your foot and she was like

645
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that was like ten years ago. Did you ever do

646
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 1>any rehab or anything about that. She's like, oh no,

647
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I just felt better. I kept going and played soccer

648
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I was like, oh, okay, cool. She's like, yeah,

649
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.119
<v Speaker 1>you can tell from my scan and I'm like, well,

650
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 1>it's not a magic eight ball by no, no, no,

651
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>but there's like some insights that you can read where

652
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>things have gone on. And the basil metabolic rate is

653
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>also something that's huge. So this person specifically burns about

654
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred calories just sleeping. That's their body just sustaining themselves,

655
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>keeping themselves alive while they're sleeping. And then a lot

656
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of women like they say, like twelve hundred calories and

657
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 1>that's your weight loss, and I'm like, ooh, well you're

658
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 1>already burning fourteen hundred calories just keeping your body alive,

659
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 1>plus you have this person actually has two small kids

660
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 1>as well, plus you have two small kids, plus you

661
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>have not that she would ever eat twelve hundred calories

662
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and say that as an example of a lot of

663
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 1>things that I do here in here, it's like, well,

664
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 1>you're also chasing after your kids. You're also working out

665
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like five days a week. Like, if you're eating twelve

666
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred calories, you're doing yourself a disservice. And the magic

667
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 1>for me when I tell people like, no, you have

668
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>to eat, well, I'm eating too much, and I'm like,

669
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 1>you're not eating anything. If you just log for three days,

670
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the log for the rest of your life,

671
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>but just log so you can be aware of what's

672
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 1>going on, what's happening. And then sometimes they'll put their

673
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>two scans together and they're like, well, I didn't really

674
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 1>eat much and I was busy, and then all of

675
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, their skull of muscle drops, their body fact

676
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 1>goes up. And this actually people that are on GLP

677
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 1>ones I see that a lot is they end up

678
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>losing weight and water and muscle and some fat, but

679
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>then their skeletal muscle goes down and the strength starts

680
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to go down, and they're like, well, I don't understand

681
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>because look at I feel better because I'm thinner. Yes,

682
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh yeah, that's where it's like there, instead

683
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>of using it as a tool to eat more substantial

684
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>food or more food to I guess, it's to eliminate

685
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the food noise. A lot of the times they're using

686
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.039
<v Speaker 1>it as a tool to develop a different type of

687
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 1>disordered eating, whereas maybe it's like, well, I only eat

688
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>one cracker today because I want to be thin. It's like,

689
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 1>oh dear, And then they get mad because they're like,

690
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>well my bloody fat went up. I'm like, oh, sorry

691
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>about that. But also yeah, so it's really it's interesting

692
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 1>what the inbody says. But again, it doesn't measure value.

693
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't measure those things. It can be a good tool.

694
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Some people do it once a year, some people do

695
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it once a month. A lot of people here will

696
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 1>use it because it keeps her ahead above water from

697
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>being discouraged. Yes, yeah, so it's a different type of

698
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a tool, but ultimately it's not the end all and

699
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>be all. But if someone is very numbers driven, I

700
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people that book their scans as well,

701
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>who are doing like police training or they're preparing for

702
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like bodybuilding shows, like fitness competitors when it's a sport

703
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're tracking their macros to a t and theyre

704
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 1>this is their on season, like you know, there's on

705
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>season off season, and then like that's fine. I lived

706
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in that world for a hot second, and I would

707
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>never imagine going back to that ever, because that, to me,

708
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 1>was not sustainable. So now I'm more like this is

709
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>what like I practice balance eating, like I practice like

710
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>lift weights, be healthy. You don't have to over exercise,

711
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:43.119
<v Speaker 1>under exercise, Like it's trying to create a balance, which

712
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is such a pile of crap. And in the long

713
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>run to say that, because it's never always going to

714
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 1>be balanced depending on the season of life, Like there's

715
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>highs of life, there's lows of life, and everything else

716
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>in between. So when you said, like when you lose weight,

717
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not just like you lost weight, or when you

718
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 1>feel good, you just feel good and you have that forever.

719
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like when rent is due and you got to

720
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 1>pay it every month, every single time you wake up,

721
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>every time you have a choice. There's that pivoting moment

722
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, am I gonna choose this or that?

723
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And there's sometimes we're gonna choose this over here and

724
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be okay. Yeah. Yeah, you can choose the

725
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 1>good stuff.

726
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can, because you can choose your body.

727
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You can choose what it is that you want to do. Ultimately,

728
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 1>whatever you get back is what you're putting in. But

729
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>that restrictive like low fat diets, low carb diets, low this,

730
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.559
<v Speaker 1>low that, and also not even looking at the whole picture,

731
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like gut health, like micro nutrients like your fiber, like

732
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 1>all those things that are so incredibly important, and practicing

733
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>sign languages like that so funny.

734
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Great, I'll go and show it up everywhere my life

735
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:43.400
<v Speaker 2>right now.

736
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 1>And I already talk with my hands and I was like,

737
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a hand talker, and so if it makes sense,

738
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>this is how you say cheer in asl. Yeah. But

739
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 1>like there's so much more deeper than just a number

740
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>on a scale, just weight loss or fat loss.

741
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like there's.

742
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when people are like I just want to feel

743
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:58.079
<v Speaker 1>good and I don't care, Like I'm a plus sized

744
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>person and I'm healthier than I wasn't saying a pig

745
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a hit, I'm out there with a pick and chit

746
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>like I I know my blood work. I do my

747
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>blood work, and I feel good. People can look at

748
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>me and say, you want a gym. How come you've

749
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 1>been in the fitness industry for a decade. I'm not

750
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>going to pretend like that doesn't exist. Yeah, and you're chubby.

751
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Well it used to be four hundred pounds and totally immobile. Yeah,

752
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 1>and now I lead a step class for sixteen minutes

753
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>every Sunday and throughout the week where it's like, well

754
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it's night and date for what fitness and nutrition has

755
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 1>done for my body and starting from the inside.

756
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Yep. So it's interesting in that context, oh one hundred percent,

757
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 2>And like again, that's the nuance of health, Like it's

758
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 2>everything is relative, Like it's not one size fits all.

759
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 1>It's not.

760
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 2>It's just like people look for easy answers because life.

761
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Is complicated life.

762
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You're like, you've got all sorts of things pulling you

763
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 2>in different directions.

764
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Throughout your day, right, and people are like, I just

765
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>want an easy answer, like just tell me what to eat, Like,

766
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 1>just tell me what to do.

767
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, listen, like what do you want to eat? Like,

768
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 2>what do you want to do right, Like there's there's

769
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of ownership like that you have to

770
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 2>take when it comes to your health in order to

771
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 2>see changes that you want down the line, and that

772
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 2>taking ownership of that is not always easy. Uh, And

773
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be moments where you don't do is

774
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>get a job, and you have to be cool with that,

775
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 2>right because you're human and life happens and it's messy

776
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's uncertain and that's okay, right, And the more

777
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you kind of sit with that, I think serves the

778
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>patient best because it means Okay, regardless of whatever the

779
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 2>fuck throat is thrown my way from life, I have

780
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the capacity to get up on that bandwagon, jump back

781
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>on that horse, like do all the things to get

782
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 2>back up when life kind of knocks you down, right, Yeah,

783
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think, like again, I'm so, I always feel

784
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>very grateful to be that coach for people. And I

785
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 2>say coach because a lot of what I do is

786
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>health coaching in a way, like I have to talk

787
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 2>to people about like getting through all right, like this

788
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>is what we got to do and this this didn't

789
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 2>work this time, and let's troubleshoot this in the future.

790
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's reconvene back because that's not priority right now. Like

791
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.480
<v Speaker 2>figuring that out with people is such a like it

792
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 2>is such a calling, and I'm so grateful that I

793
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>can do it on a day to day basis, and

794
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that I found my job, Like I love

795
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 2>my job. I wouldn't I like, can't go back. There's

796
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 2>nothing else I would rather do than talk to people

797
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>about the stuff day and day out. So yeah, I'm

798
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>very very grateful, very lucky.

799
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you sounds so acknowledged. I love everything about you, Like.

800
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 2>You're just so great.

801
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I like myself a lot too. I'm not gonna lie,

802
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 1>it took me a little while to get there. Ye,

803
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 1>there's days where you know, you're like, ah, fuck this

804
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like this is just no, this is just sucked. But

805
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like, and I think that's a beautiful

806
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 1>thing about aging too, Like you just don't care as

807
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 1>much and it's so cliche and it's so like you

808
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.159
<v Speaker 1>hear it and you're like, oh, yeah, sure whatever, but

809
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 1>like genuinely like, oh is the day, Like with every moment,

810
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:21.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I don't care, Like.

811
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, we'll figure it out. Well, Like you know, yeah,

812
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>We've got this opinion from this one person in our lives,

813
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's like okay, like just like they're not here,

814
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 2>they're not in the inter now, like when we're all like,

815
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, dead and gone, No one's gonna care, right, Like,

816
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 2>just do what you gotta do, yeah, to make life better. Yeah.

817
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that pivoting. It's funny because I was eating

818
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>breakfast this morning and I was thinking of you, and

819
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.079
<v Speaker 1>then I got here and I was thinking of you

820
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 1>again because I'm like, oh, I've never actually like met

821
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 1>someone for the first time and was like, we got

822
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 1>to do a podcast. Yeah, like I hope that. I

823
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 1>was like, I hope we have the right like chemistry

824
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 1>and the same like belief system, because what happens if not,

825
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well then we're gonna have a really good

826
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 1>bad on the on this episode. Yeah, it's gonna be controversial,

827
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be fire, it's gonna be great. I will

828
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 1>have not but I love that so much. But I

829
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>looked at your Instagram. Oh also, what is your Instagram?

830
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 1>So listeners on how to find you?

831
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram at doctor

832
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<v Speaker 2>so d r dot Liz dot n d uh and

833
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm also on LinkedIn a little bit. I've just started

834
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<v Speaker 2>that up and you can search for my name, doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Liz Dalgleish. It's it's a tongue tie tongue twister my

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<v Speaker 2>last name, but D A L G L I S H.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a G sandwich between two wells. People are people.

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<v Speaker 1>People always struggle with it, and that's okay because it's

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's memorable. It is yeah and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always my dms are always open. I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>can't sometimes depending on the questions, I can't answer them

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like we have to just have a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>patient relationship and it's not an appropriate place to answer

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<v Speaker 1>some questions. But I'm like, always talk to me at

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen minute complimentary console. If you're on the fence

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I don't really know do I need

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<v Speaker 1>to work with an at your path or not? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you the right fit for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we just talk a little bit more about my

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<v Speaker 2>personal experience or like situation and I'm happy to give

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<v Speaker 2>some guidance on next steps if you book in with

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<v Speaker 2>me for a one to one appointment or figure something

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<v Speaker 2>else out instead, I'll be like, oh, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>do this first or hold off because you're like moving

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's probably if you're like packing up your house

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<v Speaker 2>and like trying to like move from A to B,

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<v Speaker 2>Like don't don't come see me up, come see me after,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have all come see me after that's all done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just yeah, like save yourself, save yourself distress. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, so thanks, thanks for talking. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up. Thank you so much for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners, and thank you so much for coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the Transformation Station and sharing your expertise with myself and

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for having me. I'll come back anytime

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think your next conversation should have about alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, stay tuned to the podcast. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed this episode. If this resonated with you, feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to share it with a coworker, a friend, shared

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<v Speaker 1>on your social media. Also, you know where to find

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Liz. You can also reach me at Christina Romita

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<v Speaker 1>or at the Transformation Station. Berry. Until next time,