WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.359 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.160 are your favorites, so like to subscribe and raid it 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:21.399 Lip story shoot and Rags on Yesterday and listening watching 4 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:24.920 always keep its watching. 5 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:30.399 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay. 6 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.079 Hello folks, bok with another episode of Bigfoot and Beyond 7 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:35.759 with usually Cliff and Bobo. 8 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:37.560 Todavid Cliff's night here. 9 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.359 He's out in the woods, he's doing some squatching, He's 10 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:41.399 got some stuff going on. 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.600 So I was apposed to do an episode of the 12 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:45.799 Day without Cliff, but their guests we have lined up 13 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.399 are so good. I just couldn't do it without them. 14 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:48.759 I mean, they're too important. 15 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.439 So I was talking to Matt Our producer Matt perut 16 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:54.560 or Uber producer Mask and the interview kind of got 17 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.320 to see some Bobo storytime stories and kind of get 18 00:00:57.359 --> 00:00:59.600 some more fine details out of me doing it. 19 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.600 That. So welcome to Bigfoot Beyond that. 20 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.680 Thanks for having me. Yeah, you know, since I handle 21 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:09.040 a lot of the social media requests, it had occurred 22 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.000 to me when we were talking about guests, it's like, oh, 23 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.200 the one person that people ask for the most is Bobo. 24 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.000 It's so you would be the perfect guest for this 25 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:18.280 week's episode. 26 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:20.560 Thank you, thanks for having me. 27 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:22.959 Like you said, there's so many stories that I've heard 28 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.400 that it had been years since I've heard them that 29 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.079 I kind of jot down, like, oh, we should talk 30 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.359 about these on the podcast. And then when I hear 31 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:31.959 you on other podcasts, there's always questions that come up 32 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:34.799 for me that I've never asked that I thought, oh, well, 33 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:37.159 we should just ask those questions. So you get to 34 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.439 be the guest on your own podcast this week. 35 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:39.959 All right. 36 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.000 Yeah, one of the things I was curious about, and 37 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:44.480 I think we could give a shout out to our 38 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.359 good friend Tony, because Tony merkel over at The Confessionals 39 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.480 just did a great deep dive interview with you on 40 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.760 his podcast, sort of the Origin story. But I always 41 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:56.560 love hearing about who were the first other researchers that 42 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.000 you met, like after you were tracking down Sasquatch stories 43 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.799 and meeting local witnesses, Like who were the first contemporary 44 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:04.760 people in the field that you met that were going 45 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:05.760 and doing the same thing. 46 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.960 Probably Ray Crow, I guess. 47 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:10.719 Oh, I didn't know that, So were you? Were you 48 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:12.840 logging in northern California at that time. 49 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.919 Yeah, and I was going up to Portland. 50 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:17.680 Anyways. I was going to go surf up in northern 51 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.400 Oregon and and I had friends. I loved going to Portland, 52 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.039 you know, back then, that was before Portland got totally 53 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:25.520 blown up. 54 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:26.400 You know, it was like a lot. 55 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.800 It wasn't the traffic and crowds, and it was a 56 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.639 really it was my favorite city for years and years. 57 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:34.759 So anyways, I was up there and I knew about 58 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:37.879 I had someone gave me a copy of the track 59 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.560 record somehow, and I got some I was subscribed to 60 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.960 that for a while, and I made it up there 61 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:43.560 for a meeting. 62 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.960 I remember, I'm going into that basement place, and I can't. 63 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:49.159 Remember all the people I met. I met a couple 64 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.280 of women that were there. There was a lot of 65 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.520 older people. There was no in my age there. And 66 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.960 that's when I got to know Ray a little bit. Yeah, 67 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.639 I met Ray and a few other people. I can't 68 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:01.719 remember who I was there now, knowing I stayed in 69 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.879 touch with I just Ray a little bit over the years. 70 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.280 And then who did I meet. I saw an article 71 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:10.400 on John Fredis in the in the paper in the 72 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:12.960 in the San Francisco Chronicle, and I think he said 73 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.639 it was ninety six or ninety seven, and I wrote him, uh, 74 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:18.879 and I didn't I didn't have an email back then. 75 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:20.159 I just called him and left him a couple of 76 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:25.199 messages and then we talked on the phone, or I 77 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.240 think we were just yeah, I never talked to him. 78 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.080 We were just kind of phone tagging because I was 79 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:31.639 gone fishing all the time back then. 80 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:33.520 You know, it was before I sell, before I had 81 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:34.439 a cell phone. 82 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.759 And I was I was just not home ever, so 83 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:41.400 I didn't come back once every two three four weeks 84 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:44.039 and check my voicemail on the phone. And I got 85 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:45.800 a couple of messages, but we never we never met up. 86 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.120 And then I saw another article with Robert Leiterman, the 87 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:51.000 ranger from Humboldt Redwood State Parking there, and I think 88 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:51.400 it might have. 89 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:51.719 Yeah. 90 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.599 I didn't really talk to him though, until the Grasshopper 91 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:56.960 trail story, which was like a big deal at the time. 92 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.680 It was the BFL website, it just started up. I 93 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.759 guess it was the VRB what was not VRB, the 94 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:05.919 what was that one. 95 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:09.080 Called again with the IVBC the Internet Virtual Bigfoot Conference. 96 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:12.479 Yeah, might might have still been it might have still 97 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.599 been during that time, or no, no, it was already No, 98 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:16.000 it was Bfrro by that time. 99 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:17.439 Yeah, it was Bfrro. Sorry. 100 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:20.560 So I called Robert and he was just like this 101 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.079 guy sounds like a nut. So never I never met 102 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.399 up with him either. And then I had my incident 103 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:33.040 where that story I told you know, my first encounter 104 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.920 I had for sure had a definitely, definitively had a 105 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.879 big Foot encounter, like no doubt about it whatsoever. It 106 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.839 was to this day, I was still like the most powerful, 107 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:43.959 like made the biggest impression on me, and not just 108 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:45.639 because it was the first. It's still the most intense 109 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:47.079 encounter I ever had by far. 110 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.519 I was going to ask you about that story because 111 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:51.800 one of the first, I mean the first time I 112 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.639 was ever aware of you was on Mysterious Encounters in 113 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.839 some of those episodes. But then if you remember back 114 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:59.639 in the days of blog talk radio, I think the 115 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.199 first or at least one of the first Bigfoot shows 116 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:04.240 was Let's Talk Bigfoot, and a little bit of that 117 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.160 story was in there, and I had that sort of 118 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.639 jotted down here because I know we've never talked about 119 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.240 that on Bigfoot of Beyond. So you got to tell 120 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:13.240 that's got to be the first Bobo story for the 121 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.279 listeners in this episode for sure, because I'd love to 122 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:15.959 hear it again too. 123 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.959 Yeah. So, I mean, I've been looking around for years 124 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.879 and years, you know, like this was two thousand and one, 125 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.240 and I've been in touch with John Fredish. 126 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:31.160 We've never we've never met, and he was an investigator 127 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.279 for the Districttorney's office up in del North County. And 128 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.399 I was down and humble. I was commercial fisherman and 129 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.040 logging and stuff, and so I was. I was gone 130 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.959 a lot. But he called me up one day and 131 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.240 he goes, Dude, he goes, I just talked to a 132 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.680 woman from the res from the Rocros. 133 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.279 She just had a sighting. 134 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.600 She just saw a bigfoot and I was like, no, 135 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.360 and it was it was a really broken up message. 136 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.839 It was when self, I mean, this is cell phones 137 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.800 were really chanky back then where we lived at least, 138 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:02.800 and it was really broken up and my reception was 139 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:04.480 terribleck and barely hear it. But he was saying it 140 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.360 was a year ago today that the woman had was 141 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.199 setting and I didn't know that. 142 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.639 I thought it was that day. I got all excited and. 143 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:11.439 I had to drive down and started Humboldt and borrow 144 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.360 my buddy's night vision scope was a Ukrainian model, I remember, 145 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.720 with a chen two nights scope and you know, just 146 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.160 pretty junky about today's standards, but it was the best 147 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:23.199 I'd ever seen in person. So I was all excited 148 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.759 and he let me borrow it. So I went up there. 149 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:27.160 I went to where he was talking about. It was 150 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.319 on the Bald Hills. It was just on the backside 151 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.279 of Roadway National Park above the Klamath River, and I 152 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.319 was almost due west of the PG film site a 153 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.439 little bit, well, not Doe west. I was west southwest 154 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.279 of there by about ten or twelve hour miles maybe, 155 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.839 And so I went up there and it was this 156 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:45.639 little bit of it. And when he told me this story, 157 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.240 I knew exactly what he was talking about. I'd been 158 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.720 there a bunch of times, and it was right where. 159 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.040 It is called Bald Hills Road. It goes from the coast, 160 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.480 it runs through the park and then it drops down. 161 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.240 It goes over the coastal range right and then the 162 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.560 drops on into the Clounth River Valley and then the 163 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.240 Hoop of Reservation and a lot of people are Fami 164 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.040 with the Hoop of Project book by Dave Polies. 165 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:12.879 Hoop is there, and then it. 166 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.079 Comes in the urok Res, which is from the confluence 167 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:17.160 of the Trinity, which is the Trinity River goes through 168 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.160 Hoopa and the Cloud River comes down from Oregon through 169 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.839 northern California. A lot of people have heard of the Klimath. 170 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.839 So you get up to the top, and my buddies 171 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:28.480 that lived out in Wichipec, they were telling me a 172 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.720 couple couple of them had seen and one of my 173 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.759 best friends had seen a really old, broken down, limping, 174 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:39.759 kind of patchy hair, looked like I was about to die, emaciated, 175 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.560 about a seven and a half foot tall bigfoot like 176 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:46.720 had the you know, classic male male baldness pattern to it, 177 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.000 gray along its head, so it was graying along its 178 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.480 chest like the its temples are all gray. 179 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.279 And it had kind of like a gray beard. 180 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.519 And gray chest and had like that silvery sheen of 181 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.240 the black, not really a sheen. It was black, but 182 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.480 you could see that it was not like that like 183 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:03.000 the one I saw was black and I had silver 184 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.639 SHENI was like young and healthy looking. This thing was 185 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.399 old like grit like, not silver shiny hair, but like 186 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:12.000 dull gray hair. And then it had patchy fur missing, 187 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:13.959 and he could see the ribs. They could see the 188 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.600 ribs on it, and it was limping really slow, and 189 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.720 it just he said, the look on its face. 190 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:19.600 It just froze. 191 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:21.279 And then they locked eyes with it and slowed down 192 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:24.040 as they drove passed it, like close, like thirty five feet. 193 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.319 It just like tried to do the freeze thing, like 194 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:27.800 you know, I'm a bigfoot all the street. It won't 195 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:29.800 see me. They just slowed down. They were staring at 196 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.720 it started them. It was just like, I'm old, I'm 197 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:35.399 broken up, about to die. Leave me alone. He busted 198 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.559 me and just leave me alone. And then it just 199 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:40.879 started limping off again. And so I was up there 200 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:44.679 for weeks. This has been going on for about at 201 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.879 that point two months, six weeks, had been getting reports 202 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:48.399 out of there, and then. 203 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:51.440 From Humboldt State University. 204 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.679 Graduation time, a lot of you know, a lot of 205 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.200 parents and stuff come up there. It's most of like 206 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.080 I think seventy eightiethh cent of the population of the 207 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.000 school from southern California. So when the families come up 208 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.000 for graduation in May, you know, they go around cruise 209 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.440 around the you know, look at the nature and all that. 210 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:10.320 And this is about where this happened, is about our 211 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.759 ten minutes hour hour ten minutes north of the university, 212 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:15.799 and you can do a loop road. You can go 213 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:17.440 up to where the museum is in Willow Creek, and 214 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:18.720 a lot of people know Willow Creek at the big 215 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.600 Foot Museum, the original one up there. Then you go 216 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.159 down the Trinity River through Hooper Reservation. You go to 217 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.440 the confluence of the Cloud in the Trinity and you 218 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.480 drive down a couple miles and below Witch Bag and 219 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:30.879 then you go back up and you go over the 220 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.759 Bald Hills and drop down a highay one on one 221 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:34.799 Reway National Park and then back down along the coast 222 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.200 back to Arcada. So a lot of people do that loop. 223 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:39.440 And I talked to two different car loads of people 224 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.519 that you know, were graduating their parents' up visiting, and 225 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.879 they saw the same thing within within about a mile 226 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:47.120 of each They were all within the same mile zone 227 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.679 of this thing about ready to trying to cross road, 228 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:53.000 this old gray limping Bigfoot. So I was like, oh 229 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.960 my god, like that's that's that's what you know. I 230 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.519 gotta find this thing and I that's when I started 231 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:00.679 calling Melgrum too. I didn't I didn't no Meldrum, but 232 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.200 I was telling him, Hey, these things. You know, it's 233 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.399 a it's around, it's it's old, it's about to die. 234 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:09.919 It might be a good place to focus on. I 235 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:11.840 think he sent sent him an email, and I think 236 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.759 he he emailed me back once and he sounded like, yeah, 237 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:17.159 he was excited, like that sounds really good. 238 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:18.639 I called Raycrow and I told him about it, and 239 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:19.080 he was like. 240 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.720 Oh man, that's uh, that's that's exactly what you're looking for. 241 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.200 Said, yeah, I know. So I was. I was getting 242 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:26.919 all excited about that. I was up there a lot, 243 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:29.480 didn't see anything, didn't hear anything. 244 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:34.360 And then so John John fredis the Dunark County District 245 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.799 Attorney investigator, you know, he's a law enforcement officer. 246 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.440 He called me up all excited about the sighting of 247 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:40.679 that you'ur ak woman. 248 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.600 He goes, you know, she's really responsible, she's great witness, 249 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:46.759 you know, real, real together a woman. 250 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:47.840 She works for the tribe. 251 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:51.279 You know, she's a senior kind of up there person, 252 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.399 well respected. And he goes, yeah, and she she sought 253 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.399 cross the road. And I knew exactly, and it was. 254 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.200 It was strange, man, because I've talked to her several 255 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:03.559 times since then. It was a smaller bigfoot and it 256 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.120 was dragging a rolled up piece of cardboard it had 257 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:08.919 in one hand, and the other hand it had it 258 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.919 was holding like the the cuff of a sleeve of 259 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.759 a long, a long sleeved kid's bright blue. 260 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.159 Child's top, like long sleeved shirt. There's dragon. 261 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.399 I was holding the cup of one sleeve and then 262 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.279 the rest of it was dragging behind her. 263 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:27.360 On the ground, or it heard him, whatever it was, 264 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:28.679 and then. 265 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.360 It saw her and it just took off just so 266 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.960 fast like a deer, just zoom zoomed off, kicked up 267 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.679 a cloud of dust behind it. It was just gone. 268 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.200 And so I was like, no, that just happened like today, 269 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:42.279 And I got that. So I got the night vision 270 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:43.879 scip and I was all said, I packed my stuff 271 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:45.600 up soon as so. 272 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:46.639 So I got the that vision scrip. 273 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.000 I go up there, I set my chair up in 274 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.200 the and it, mind you, at this point, I've been 275 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:53.600 looking for years and years, never had anything happened, never 276 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:56.039 heard anything that I knew, you know, in hindsight, I 277 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:57.799 did have some interactions with him. 278 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:58.639 But I just didn't know it. 279 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.120 I was ignorant the the signs sounds. 280 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.519 But so I went to the meadow. 281 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:07.639 And so the meadow is kind of like a crescent shape, 282 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.679 you know, like half moon shape, and it's gone now 283 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.159 got clear cut. But it was probably like I always 284 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.159 mess up the dimensions because it seems so big, but 285 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:19.200 I'm reckoning. It was about maybe one hundred and twenty yards. 286 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:21.440 It was a half moon shape starting from the road, 287 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:25.039 so the road around north south, So this meadow ran 288 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.000 parallel to the road on the east side of the road, 289 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.480 and the road around north south along the ridge, and 290 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.559 the road was the dividing line between the National Park roadway, 291 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:36.919 State National Park and private timberland and some ranch and 292 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:39.679 holdings in there. There's a few people live out there, 293 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.440 not many, like maybe six houses along it's eleven miles 294 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.759 of road, and they were mostly down at the end 295 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:48.879 of the road, down by the river, the Klamath. So 296 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:50.879 as you drive up along this meadow, you see the 297 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:53.279 middle on your right, and then alongside of the road 298 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.399 there's a patch of woods maybe thirty yards long by 299 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.679 about fifteen yards thick something like that. Both sides of 300 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:02.320 it was the meadow and in front of it was 301 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.440 the meadow, so it was like an island that backed 302 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:07.360 up to the road. So I pulled up there and parked. 303 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.919 There was a kind of a water spike park people 304 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.840 get buy no problem, and I let my dog out, 305 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.159 let him run around for a little. 306 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:14.440 Bit d day. 307 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.120 He was that big one hundred and five pounds piople 308 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.000 great dog, super mill. Everyone thought it was a black 309 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.600 live because he was so chill, and so I let 310 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.080 him run around for a while. Then I put him 311 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.080 back in the truck in the front seat, and I 312 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.120 got my I had one of those plastic you know, 313 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.799 picnic chairs, you know, the little cheap chair you get 314 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.120 from Costco whatever. I had one of those, had machety 315 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:41.000 for protection, had my nightscope and uh spotlight, and I 316 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.039 think when I had my extra clothes in case it 317 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:48.039 got cold or mosquitoes. And this was in May. It 318 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.279 was May twenty first, two thousand and one, and there 319 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:53.879 wasn't There wasn't. I don't think there was any moon 320 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:54.879 at all. It might have been a little bit of 321 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:56.840 a moon, but it was clear. It was warn it was, 322 00:13:57.639 --> 00:13:59.080 you know, it was in the eighties that day up 323 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.000 there at night. 324 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:02.240 I think I think at nine. 325 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.679 O'clock it was still like seventy four seventy five degrees. 326 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:06.720 But I'm sitting there and I go out there and 327 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.320 I started doing some really killer calls, like roars and howls, 328 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.080 and I'm doing then east end of the canyon. They 329 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.720 were carrying all the way down the river. I could 330 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.000 hear echoes going down. I was like, dang, my voice 331 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.000 is you know, I'm killing it tonight. It's going far. 332 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:22.240 It was going miles now. I was doing some roars. 333 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.240 I've seen some aggressive calls. In about seven forty five, 334 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:29.720 I think it was seven forty five, Yeah, it was 335 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:30.799 about seven forty five. 336 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.399 I hear this wolf. 337 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.399 I thought it was a wolf hybrid, like those husky 338 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.240 wolf they were popular back then tho. They were like 339 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.720 seven eights wolf in the eighth husky or malmeat whatever. 340 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.639 And I thought, well, it sounds like my buddy's wolf, 341 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.320 you know, wolf hybrid. It sounds like that, because it 342 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:47.879 was it was a howl, and it was just it 343 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.240 wasn't a kyo, you could tell, and it was a 344 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.120 dog that had more of a wolf tone to it. 345 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.200 It seemed like, I'm like, that's weird. And then it 346 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.039 does it again and I hear the hell. I'm like, god, 347 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.799 that's a strange how it keeps going on and on, 348 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:04.360 and then it starts changing it more into like a 349 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:08.840 screaming yell roar, And right then I was like, oh 350 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.080 my god, I just heard my first Bigfoot. I couldn't 351 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.279 believe it. I was like, no, wait, it was miles 352 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.360 due north. It was just due north to me. 353 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.679 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bobo. 354 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:28.600 Will be right back after these messages. So three to 355 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:32.159 six months doesn't seem like a long time right in 356 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.360 bigfoot Land. 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