Speaker 1: Seven six Here fifty five kr CEV talk station. Happy Monday,
Speaker 1: try to make it so anyway. Christopher Smimman coming over
Speaker 1: the next segment in the meantime, happy to welcome back
Speaker 1: with the fifty five Casey Morning Show. FOP Faternal Older
Speaker 1: Peace Chapter sixty nine, which represents the CINCINNTI Police Department
Speaker 1: heading it up, Ken Cober, Ken, good to have you
Speaker 1: back on the fifty five Casey Morning Show.
Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having all Right.
Speaker 1: Now, if I was out in the middle of the
Speaker 1: street and I saw an officer I don't know, interacting
Speaker 1: with someone in terms of making a stop, doing their
Speaker 1: job and their official capacity as an on duty police officer,
Speaker 1: and I got in the middle of it and interfered
Speaker 1: with the police officer doing his job, would I be
Speaker 1: subject to a citation? Ken Cober?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd be subject to a citation or
Speaker 2: subject to arrest.
Speaker 1: For that matter. Okay, I guess first question. You have
Speaker 1: it on video, and you circulated a petition to well
Speaker 1: have Iris Rawley described as a consultant to the City
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati in a paid capacity, get her fired from
Speaker 1: her job, and you show a couple of illustrations. She's
Speaker 1: been caught on bodycam, which you did post with the
Speaker 1: petition for assing police officers in the middle of doing
Speaker 1: their job. Can I ask why that she wasn't cited.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, officers had discretion, and in that situation,
Speaker 2: it was clear the officer knew exactly who Iris was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and thought that it would be better to attempt to
Speaker 2: de escalate the situation than it would be to try
Speaker 2: to arrest her, knowing that it was a likelihood that
Speaker 2: it was going to get worse. So they made what
Speaker 2: I thought was a good decision just to try to
Speaker 2: let it go under the circumstances. But as I've explained
Speaker 2: to the city manager, those circumstances are running out, and
Speaker 2: she should expect the next policeman she comes across and
Speaker 2: to do something like that, she will be arrested.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's on notice now pretty clearly, most notably because
Speaker 1: you circulated a petition trying to get her fired. Now,
Speaker 1: she's been around since the days of the riots and
Speaker 1: the collaborative agreement, and a lot of people, including the
Speaker 1: city manager in responsive petition you know, gave her props.
Speaker 1: Is a consequence of her activism, But she has been
Speaker 1: an out loud voice against the police department. It seems
Speaker 1: to embrace this defund the police kind of strategy, and
Speaker 1: she's certainly an agitator when it comes to well filing
Speaker 1: complaints against police officers who are doing their job. Now,
Speaker 1: I guess I understand why you're trying to ask for
Speaker 1: her to be fired. Do you have any idea what
Speaker 1: role she plays now? Since the Collaborative Agreement has been
Speaker 1: around for now for what like almost two decades.
Speaker 2: Consultant of the city manager and that came straight from
Speaker 2: the city manager that she consults her, and you know,
Speaker 2: and that's fine. Is all the work that she's done
Speaker 2: with the Collaborative Agreement, whether you like it you don't
Speaker 2: like it, the work that she's done can't go unnotice. However,
Speaker 2: she's crossed the line. You cross the line when you
Speaker 2: decide that you're going to obstruct official business when the
Speaker 2: police are out there trying to do what they're paid
Speaker 2: to do, and it's something that's just not going.
Speaker 1: To be tolerated. I certainly understand that it sounds like
Speaker 1: the city manager's on your side on that, after supporting
Speaker 1: Iris Rowley and everything that she's done on behalf of
Speaker 1: the city city manager along said anyone doing work on
Speaker 1: behalf of the City of Cincinnati, Iris Rowley must hold
Speaker 1: themselves to a higher standard that includes not interfering with
Speaker 1: police or in the act of performing their lawful duties.
Speaker 1: So even the city manager is on your side on this,
Speaker 1: Ken Cobra.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but we'll see if there's going to be
Speaker 2: any consequence for her actions. That's going to be where
Speaker 2: the proof is in the putting. Is she gonna actually
Speaker 2: do something about it? And that's yet to be seen.
Speaker 1: It is yet to be seen now so far. How
Speaker 1: many signatures do you have on your petition?
Speaker 2: I looked at it's just over thirty four hundred. I
Speaker 2: can tell you. I was working the Sccincinnati match last
Speaker 2: night and there are some folks that were talking about
Speaker 2: it said that they fully support the police that they've
Speaker 2: signed it. I've talked to some officers that are reluctant
Speaker 2: to sign it because they believe that somehow the city
Speaker 2: is going to get this information and that they will
Speaker 2: try to retaliate against them if they do sign it.
Speaker 1: Now, I just one have to be a resident of
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati to sign the petition.
Speaker 2: No, and you know this This petition is really twofold.
Speaker 2: It's one it's sending a message to the city saying
Speaker 2: that we're not going to tolerate some consultant from the
Speaker 2: city that's going to create, you know, uh, have a
Speaker 2: criminal act, commit a criminal act that's going to harass
Speaker 2: the police. But also it's a message because the police
Speaker 2: are seeing it, and the police are seeing the support
Speaker 2: they have. So I encourage all those that are the
Speaker 2: silent minority or the silent majority that are always supporting
Speaker 2: the police that don't necessarily want to come out and
Speaker 2: say it, sign the petition because these officers are taking
Speaker 2: notice of how many signatures are you know, being signed.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess considering she's in this consulting capacity, of
Speaker 1: course she's an outspoken community activist. Everything in the city
Speaker 1: seems to know who Iris. Rawly is the fact that
Speaker 1: she's going out there and actually interfering with officers doing
Speaker 1: their job. Isn't that encouraging others residents of the city
Speaker 1: to do the same dang thing, Since if Iris can
Speaker 1: do it, shouldn't I be doing it? Also?
Speaker 2: Without a doubt. I mean, they don't understand, you know,
Speaker 2: the impact that this is having. I mean officers are
Speaker 2: absolutely furious about this. You know, I was at a
Speaker 2: role call this morning. Not one officer had anything bad
Speaker 2: to say about this petition. They encourage it. They actually
Speaker 2: want me to go even further and take other steps,
Speaker 2: and that's we'll see how this all plays out. But
Speaker 2: they're furious to see that you have somebody that is
Speaker 2: supposedly a city leader that is harassing the police when
Speaker 2: they're simply trying to do their job.
Speaker 1: Now, what do you hope ultimately comes to this? Obviously,
Speaker 1: if the petition, you know, it serves its purpose, she's
Speaker 1: going to get fired. I really am hesitant to believe
Speaker 1: that share a long or anybody in the Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: the current government is going to fire her for doing this.
Speaker 1: So this really does serve the purpose of puting Iris
Speaker 1: specifically on notice that maybe next time around, she will
Speaker 1: get cited, and also sends a warning to the rest
Speaker 1: of the Greater Cincinnati residents. Don't do this, because you'll
Speaker 1: see what's going to happen next time we encounter Iris
Speaker 1: involving this. I mean, this just brings it to everybody's
Speaker 1: attention as something not to do. Right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I had this conversation with the city manager on Friday,
Speaker 2: and I told her, listen, she should thank her lucky
Speaker 2: stars that she came across an extremely patient police officer
Speaker 2: who is willing to deal with that nonsense, because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of police officers out there that wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been willing to deal with it, that would have just
Speaker 2: arrested her, which is what ultimately could have happened. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I respect the officer that was involved. I
Speaker 2: think she's a fantastic person under the circumstances. I believe
Speaker 2: she made the right decision. But Iris is going to
Speaker 2: be so lucky next time, and that's going to be
Speaker 2: on the city manager to have to deal with. You know,
Speaker 2: if they continue to do business with her, they continue
Speaker 2: to give her taxpayer dollars. Because I believe Iris is
Speaker 2: not going to stop doing this. It would be smart
Speaker 2: if she does, and ultimately that's what we want, is
Speaker 2: for her just to stop this behavior. But if it continues,
Speaker 2: believe me, there is a high likelihood that she will
Speaker 2: be arrested.
Speaker 1: Well, and I agree with your conclusion about the officer
Speaker 1: involved in not issuing the citation, But doesn't that highlight
Speaker 1: the very problem that Iris Ralli has created because she
Speaker 1: is such a loud activist and will look into and
Speaker 1: with hindsight twenty twenty, look at every single, every single
Speaker 1: moment in time of any officer and maybe perp interaction
Speaker 1: that they're going to be under the microscope, which has
Speaker 1: caused law enforcement officers to really question engaging people on
Speaker 1: the street for fear of being called out by Iris
Speaker 1: Rawli and others of her ILK. Now doesn't this confirm
Speaker 1: that that strategy actually work because Iris avoided getting a
Speaker 1: ticket because it was well known to the police that
Speaker 1: she was this loud activist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you could certainly draw that conclusion.
Speaker 2: But I'll just say this, there are plenty of police
Speaker 2: that I've talked to this said if that was me
Speaker 2: in that situation, I would have arrested her. You know,
Speaker 2: no one in this police department is against accountability. You know,
Speaker 2: the public deserves transparency, they deserve the police to be
Speaker 2: held accountable. But if they think that they're going to
Speaker 2: allow some bully to continue to harass police officers, it's
Speaker 2: just not going to happen. There are plenty of cops
Speaker 2: out there that we're wishing that that was them because
Speaker 2: they would have arrested her.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Well, if folks want to sign the petition,
Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Cover, where do they go to do that?
Speaker 2: Goodness sincy C I n C Y Police dot Com.
Speaker 2: All the information that is all held by the FOP,
Speaker 2: So it's not like the city's getting this information. We're
Speaker 2: storing all this information. It's private and you know, we
Speaker 2: want to be able to see that. You know how
Speaker 2: many people are actually out there supporting the police, because
Speaker 2: we know there's a ton of you.
Speaker 1: All amen to that. FOP President can Cover. I can't
Speaker 1: thank you enough for the time you spent my listeners
Speaker 1: and me talking about this important topic. I'll look for
Speaker 1: hard to have having you back on and if listeners
Speaker 1: want to sign a petition, I'll encourage him to do so. Ken,
Speaker 1: keep up the great work, my friend, Thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on this morning.
Speaker 2: Sure, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Brian, my pleasure anytime, seven to fifteen right now. Christopher
Speaker 1: Smitheman with the Smith Event. He'll be up next. First,
Speaker 1: get in touch with Rhino Shield. Get a free quote.
Speaker 1: It's a free quote. Why would you want to go
Speaker 1: with Rhinoshoe because you don't want to paint your home anymore?
Speaker 1: You know, every five many years, every five years scraping,
Speaker 1: you know, getting there to the old stuff. It's flaking off,
Speaker 1: maybe it's faded paint. You're in a vicious cycle of paint,
Speaker 1: then repaint, then repaint again. How about going with Rhino shoe.
Speaker 1: Do you get a twenty five year warranty. It is
Speaker 1: an outstanding product and it's better than paint. It's a
Speaker 1: ceramic coating. It's like eight to ten times thicker than paint.
Speaker 1: They do a great job of preparing the surface for
Speaker 1: the application and this Rhino Shield product goes on. It
Speaker 1: provides long term protection so you don't go through that
Speaker 1: paint repaint cycle again. Protect your home's exterior from excess moisture,
Speaker 1: protection from UV rays. It's guaranteed not to fade or
Speaker 1: chip for twenty five years, and it's a transferable warranty too,
Speaker 1: So go with the ceramic coating better than paint by far.
Speaker 1: For a free quote and to learn more about the
Speaker 1: product and its various applications, go to Rhino r H
Speaker 1: I n O Rhino shield ky dot com for all
Speaker 1: the greater Cincinnati area rhinoshield ky dot com. To call
Speaker 1: for a free quote eight five five seven four four
Speaker 1: sixty six oh five eight five five seven four four
Speaker 1: sixty six oh five.
Speaker 2: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station. The free
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app has over