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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find out tomorrow morning. But I think I have

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good idea of what the process is. Is

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow for me for jury duty. And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>none of you care about me going to Jerry duty,

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<v Speaker 2>but if it, if they keep me, it could keep

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<v Speaker 2>you from, you know, getting me on this show, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know they have say so they can keep me

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<v Speaker 2>from working. But I don't think I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about that. So tomorrow's orientation for Jerry Duty, John,

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<v Speaker 2>and that lasts about an hour, okay, so like that'll

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<v Speaker 2>just be a short not official Jerry duty says you

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<v Speaker 2>check in orientation from the jury clerk and a visit

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<v Speaker 2>to a courtroom where the judge explains the case. After orientation,

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<v Speaker 2>jurors are either selected for a jury panel or excused.

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<v Speaker 2>And during this orientation process, like when I and I

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<v Speaker 2>will see well, a lot of people have said this

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<v Speaker 2>on the text line and even on Twitter, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just talking to somebody who works here that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of said the same thing. Is if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that you work for a talk radio station, sports

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<v Speaker 2>or even you know, they're gonna want you to not

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of their jury in every way and

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<v Speaker 2>tell you to leave, which thought, to myself, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>But why And it makes a little sense. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they fear that when I wasn't doing jury duty, I

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<v Speaker 2>would maybe like bring up the case or something like

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<v Speaker 2>I like, you know, like I whatever gets me out

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<v Speaker 2>of it is great. And I do like the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of like being on a jury because I think it

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<v Speaker 2>would be interesting as somebody who's interested in like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. But you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to miss work because I mean, there's a reason this

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<v Speaker 2>show is called company because we got the company man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a company man myself. Like, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know what I would do this for free.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of do anyway. But it's a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully Jerry duty is not, you know, not something

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<v Speaker 2>that keeps me from being here the rest of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>But we shall see. But most people who have shared

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<v Speaker 2>their story about showing up because they got the thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the mail have said that they didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. They just showed up and were sent home.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully that happens with me? Or maybe you know

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<v Speaker 2>what's the what's the guy? Who's the guy or a

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<v Speaker 2>girl who's the leader of the jery what's the name

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<v Speaker 2>of Uh, what's that four person? Yeah? The four person

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<v Speaker 2>is the juror charged with overseeing jury deliberations.

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<v Speaker 3>What if they task? I mean, if they task, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you need to be doing. Here, could be

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<v Speaker 3>the one talking, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I don't want to be there. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather be here and not have to worry about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>missing shows and whatnot. But if if my community in

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<v Speaker 2>Bullet County calls upon me to be the four person

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<v Speaker 2>to help with this process of justice, than who am

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<v Speaker 2>I to turn that away? Right? I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a duty that I owe to my community. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they told me in that letter. So we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 2>got so much going on in my life right now,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing crazy, and you know, I'm sure there are many

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<v Speaker 2>people listening that have a lot more going on than me.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, it's been hectic as hell. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it hit me yesterday, Oh yeah, I think I have

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry duty. And here we are all right, Coffee and company,

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock hour. Thanks for hanging out. With us here

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<v Speaker 2>on a stormy Tuesday afternoon. Don't forget you could take

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<v Speaker 2>us with you wherever you go. Listen live on the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio Listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot Com. So

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<v Speaker 2>real quick. I know we usually don't talk a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of recruiting on the show, but Pat Kelsey is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be hosting one of the best players in America

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<v Speaker 2>today tonight. I think he lands tonight. Mckel Brown Junior

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<v Speaker 2>is a five star prospect. He is the number seven

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<v Speaker 2>player overall in his class, and he's a point go

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<v Speaker 2>yard and obviously that's the kind of guy that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could somehow land him, I mean, he'd be huge.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, Louisville, when's the last time they landed

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<v Speaker 2>a top seven player nationally? I think I know the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's smart o' Samuel's that was a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago. So look, this kid's got offers from everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's the kind of guy that and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>he lands, I think tonight at the airport. I know Tyspolden,

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<v Speaker 2>who does some work for Cardon he actually runs Cardinalsports

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com, is trying to organize I think some fans

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<v Speaker 2>to show up and greet him, which, hey, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good that's a good initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>Ty.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I don't know how many people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>show up, but I think that's actually kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's the kind of guy that has, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the first two schools on his list that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to visit or has visited Kentucky, Indiana, Ole Miss, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people seem to think Old Miss is

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<v Speaker 2>in great shape here. He he's I think he's played

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<v Speaker 2>for a bunch of different high schools. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was at IMG, but now he's at DM Academy, which

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the top prep academies out there. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's such a talented player that no matter where

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, he's gonna get paid, and the schools that

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna consider are going to have good in il situations.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, he's the kind of guy that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he won't he's going to be paid, but it's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a yeah, I want to really just take advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to take advantage of the one year

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<v Speaker 2>that I have in the college game and get developed

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<v Speaker 2>by a good coach, play for a good team, play

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<v Speaker 2>in front of a great fan base that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>play within a system that's really going to highlight what

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<v Speaker 2>I do well. And I don't know how Pat Kelsey's

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<v Speaker 2>pitch is going to compare to others, but there's actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is not one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>it's just going to come down to money. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it would like maybe somebody comes over the top

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<v Speaker 2>and just says, Okay, we're gonna give you five million,

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<v Speaker 2>which clearly nobody would do that, but I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Pat Kelsey having the Louisville job kind of

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<v Speaker 2>speaks to his ability to sell, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a you know, his family as a background

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<v Speaker 2>in selling. His father is one of the most successful

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<v Speaker 2>entrepreneurs when it comes to car dealerships in Cincinnati. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he could sell. He can recruit. He's shown

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<v Speaker 2>that when he was at Charleston getting the caliber players

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<v Speaker 2>to come to Charleston and the portal class he's put together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know that there are some people growing

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<v Speaker 2>a little impatient because the twenty twenty five class is

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<v Speaker 2>not there's not a commitment yet, but I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if you get one here in the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, and you know, I think they're gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>together a pretty good class. I'm not sure where it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna rank, because I think you can be really selective

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to high school recruits right now, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know you don't have to have any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You could literally say, man, this class is kind of duds.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take the year off and I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get portal guys. I mean, that's that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see guys do that every year, but occasionally they might,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can be selective. So again, I know people

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<v Speaker 2>are impatient, but I think get what. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to just take guys to take them, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're in the mix for a lot of good players,

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually one of them is going to pop. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, however, let's not forget they've already landed one

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<v Speaker 2>of the highest ranked recruits, louisls Ever landed in Kahani

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<v Speaker 2>Rus like that just kind of get swept under the

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<v Speaker 2>rug because at that time we were so intrigued by

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<v Speaker 2>all the portal additions, which again the majority of the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>all of the roster is portal guys. Outside of Russ.

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<v Speaker 2>But you just kind of snuck in a high four

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<v Speaker 2>star who is at one of the top fifteen. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he might even be a top ten recruit

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<v Speaker 2>of all time here according to the rankings. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not worried yet. And again I hate to say this

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<v Speaker 2>because I know people can. Recruiting is always going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a big deal when it comes to programs, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's still going to be an aspect of your

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<v Speaker 2>livelihood as a coach, right bringing in young talent developing them,

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<v Speaker 2>but not to the extent that it used to be

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<v Speaker 2>because of the portal. So you know, even if Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>didn't end up having a stellar freshman class that features

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like four guys that are in the top

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred, I would be a liar if I told

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<v Speaker 2>you that meant I'm worried about Pat Kelsey, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be selective.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The real losers in the New World here are guys

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<v Speaker 2>that are fringe because they're not going to get that

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<v Speaker 2>offer from the bigger program because they'll say, yeah, you're good,

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<v Speaker 2>but it might take me three years to get something

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<v Speaker 2>really valuable out of you, and I don't have time

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<v Speaker 2>for that. So yeah, Pat Kelsey in his staff, they've

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<v Speaker 2>been working hard on the recruiting trail and they've had

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<v Speaker 2>some guys come in for visits, and I'm sure eventually

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<v Speaker 2>one of these guys is going to make a decision,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully it's Louisville. All right, we'll step a basketball

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<v Speaker 2>really quickly here before we get back to the Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame Louisville matchup, because yesterday the ACC announced that Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>is going to play Duke in their ACC opener that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in early December, and we'll get the full basketball

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<v Speaker 2>schedule tonight. By the way, the entire Louisville hoop schedule

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<v Speaker 2>will be unveiled as soon as the ACC announces everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>league schedule. And we know who Louisville, like, we know

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, we just don't know the dates. Like we

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<v Speaker 2>already know which teams you play twice, which teams you

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<v Speaker 2>play once, and if you're gonna be at their place

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<v Speaker 2>or hosting them. We just don't know how they're laying

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<v Speaker 2>it out. And that does matter, by the way, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have a tough stretch just by the way

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<v Speaker 2>the conference set up your schedule. That might be a

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<v Speaker 2>real rough month for you in January or February. That

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<v Speaker 2>could be impactful for your tournament seating and whatnot. So

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<v Speaker 2>it does matter, But overall, as far as who they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to play, like, we already know. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable in saying that right now with Tennessee a top

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen team preseason, Indiana a top twenty team preseason. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you get West Virginia they're not top twenty, but still

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big twelve team that's got a good coach

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<v Speaker 2>that comes from from Drake who brought his son who

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<v Speaker 2>might be the best shooter in the country. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>mess around and end up getting Gonzaga, that's a top

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<v Speaker 2>five team. And then who are the other teams in

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<v Speaker 2>the like who who could you end up playing? I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there it could be anybody from.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Providence, there's Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're trying to Arizona's a top ten team preseason.

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma's in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma don't know where they're gonna be ranked, but you know, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>then Davidson's the other one. Yeah, Davidson's the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>they're clearly not the rest of the field, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a G five team. Yeah, exact perfectly said. So

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<v Speaker 2>that event alone is going to result in you playing

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<v Speaker 2>you if you win while you're there, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a talented squad. But if you win while you're there, like,

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<v Speaker 2>but like if you got Indiana Gonzaga in Arizona in

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<v Speaker 2>break down that way with the bracket, but like the

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<v Speaker 2>event's loaded and you lost. Was it Nova or was

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<v Speaker 3>Creighton went to that nil event? Okay, Providence replaced him, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we don't know exactly how it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a potential matchup with Dayton or Davidson. Not dat dah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Dave Davidson, thank you. So and then you

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<v Speaker 2>come back from the Bahamas, very little time to rest,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you've got the acc SEC Challenge where you

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<v Speaker 2>play Ole Miss Chris Beard's team, a top twenty team,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a week later you will be playing Duke

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna have the best player in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag. And then within a week's time of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you will play Kentucky at Ruck their top twenty five preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'll probably end up getting the benefit of

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<v Speaker 2>the doubt and be a top twenty team in the

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<v Speaker 2>actual ap pole that comes out. And even if they

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<v Speaker 2>struggled a little bit early on, you're still playing Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>and Ruck. And I think Mark Pope's a really good coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully he's not hopefully he's a bum. But like I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be lying to you if I said, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be terrible. There so on paper and it

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<v Speaker 2>all means nothing. You know, once the season starts and

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<v Speaker 2>you actually see who's good and who's not right, you

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<v Speaker 2>toss the paper away once you actually have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to get results and see where everybody stands. But I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember looking at a Louisville schedule before the season

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<v Speaker 2>started in November and December, that was as challenging as this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited about it now. I have no I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no clue how successful they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in some of these games, because the reality is this,

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<v Speaker 2>they could play well and lose to some of these

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<v Speaker 2>teams because they're really good. But if you get battle tested,

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<v Speaker 2>you take some lumps in this early part of the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet you end up still being very competitive in

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<v Speaker 2>the acc which you should be. Let's say you end

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<v Speaker 2>up being one of the better teams in your league.

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<v Speaker 2>If those teams that beat you early on end up

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<v Speaker 2>still being pretty damn good. This is the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing to where you could end up getting into like

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<v Speaker 2>the early the early net rankings that come out that

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<v Speaker 2>the NAA gives, as I always forget when they put

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<v Speaker 2>those out. It's a January endings January. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>like you could end up having a record that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>look great, but yet you're really highly ranked because of

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<v Speaker 2>how loaded your the front part of your schedule was.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited, I am, and I'm gonna be in

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte not next week, but week after that, two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>from now. For the ACC basketball tip off, looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to that. Can't wait hoops And that's the thing, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not impatiently waiting for hoops season to start when

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<v Speaker 2>I got football. That's why once, I mean again, my

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<v Speaker 2>basketball be here before you know it. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>right it did. John. I appreciate you letting me know

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<v Speaker 2>our first break, let's talk about Let's talk about two

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<v Speaker 2>people that are really, really good football coaches. One clearly

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<v Speaker 2>is on a different planet than everybody. That's Nick Saban.

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<v Speaker 2>The other's Jeff Brohm, who no clue if he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>come close to any of accomplishments that Nick Saban has.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously Louisville fans, myself included, fel pretty good about

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<v Speaker 2>who they have leading their football program. So let me

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<v Speaker 2>just give you a crazy stat about Nick Saban. First,

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<v Speaker 2>they are currently two point dogs against Georgia this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time Alabama was a home underdog was when

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<v Speaker 2>they played LSU in two thousand and seven. If that

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<v Speaker 2>isn't one of the most impressive things about the Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Saban era at Alabama, I don't know what would be more.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean again, that's insane if you really think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, two thousand and seven, John, what were you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I've been ten years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the beginning of the Nick Saban erab By

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<v Speaker 3>the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like yeah, I mean he was Look, he

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<v Speaker 2>was dominant there. I mean, I'm not telling you guys

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<v Speaker 2>anything you didn't know. But really it was one year

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<v Speaker 2>where he kind of in fact, he lost to Louisiana

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<v Speaker 2>in row and it was, you know, didn't get off

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<v Speaker 2>to a great start, and then it quickly did get

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<v Speaker 2>rolling and they never looked back. Like down years for

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<v Speaker 2>Bama were what with Nick Saban, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, being like number ten in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember. I mean, let's see, they lost to

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma and the Sugar Bowl back in you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably about I don't know, eight nine years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet they still probably won eleven games. Like let me

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<v Speaker 2>pull up his record here. So Saban he went two

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<v Speaker 2>and six. How did he go too and six in

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<v Speaker 2>his first year? I don't I don't get that. Was

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<v Speaker 2>he interim or no, be interim. I'm confused as to

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<v Speaker 2>how that played out. Maybe I just need to revisit.

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<v Speaker 2>I know how it all. I know how he got there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was LSU than the NFL, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Obama and the rest is history. But

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<v Speaker 2>he went twelve and two in his second year overall,

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<v Speaker 2>eight to o in SEC play, he went too straight.

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<v Speaker 2>In his second and third year in the SEC, Sabin

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<v Speaker 2>went sixteen and oh combined in the league. In twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a total three losses. They never had more

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<v Speaker 2>than two losses after that. I mean, the guy was

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<v Speaker 2>insane at Alabama, and he was good elsewhere too, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he was decent at Michigan State, he was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>damn good at LSU, but nothing like he was at Bama.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was I mean again, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you'll ever see a better college football coach than Nick Saban.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy, he's a big fan of Jeff Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd forgot all about this, like I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>because it's been so long, maybe because so much has

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<v Speaker 2>happened since then. But like I was talking yesterday about

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<v Speaker 2>how nobody can be happier than Oscar brom former Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback himself, who you know, played at Louisville before you

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<v Speaker 2>know it was the cool thing to do. He had

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<v Speaker 2>some really, really talented kids that could have gone to

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<v Speaker 2>some big time programs, but they stayed and followed in

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<v Speaker 2>dad's footsteps and played here and left their mark on

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<v Speaker 2>the program. And now now Jeff is leading the program

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<v Speaker 2>and all and the brothers are on the staff, so

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<v Speaker 2>like he's got to be happy as hell. But I'd

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<v Speaker 2>forgot about there being some adversity, some bad blood a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in between there. And yet that never, that

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<v Speaker 2>never changed Jeff and the Brom family's feelings towards Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is this is from the s V pod.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Scott Bene Pelp podcast. And obviously Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 2>now working for ESPN. Apparently those two were chatting and

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<v Speaker 2>Brom or not Brom, but Saban was open up Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>and he shared this with with SVP about Jeff Brown, Syrahcuseton.

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<v Speaker 4>I lost today, but Louisville's three and oh they got

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<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame next, go ahead. I was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 4>that was Louisville's third game. That was Georgia Tech's fifth game. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like all these teams with the early buys, it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of crazy. I actually I can't wait to go watch

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville on tape because I haven't really been able to

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<v Speaker 4>dive in on them. I know broms Saban talking the

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<v Speaker 4>other day, we were like, what about Louisville. He's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>brom He's like tried to hire them multiple times unsuccessfully.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the world of them until you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>need to know you think the same and Brom as

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that guy's.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always I've always been impressed by his play calling.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of teams that have won.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean Nick Saban one just saying that about

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<v Speaker 2>your coach behind closed doors. By the way, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>like he didn't say that on set when they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Louisville. He's just talking to SVP about how much

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks Jeff Brohm's a great coach. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how many coaches have turned Nick Saban down to join

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<v Speaker 2>their staff. I mean not many. I'm curious when he

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember Jeff being here obviously coaching the

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't end well. But it's not something that comes

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<v Speaker 2>to mind very often. But yeah, I mean it was

417
00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.519
<v Speaker 2>a story locally here, you know, the Capitol Jay's were

418
00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:37.119
<v Speaker 2>covering it that while he was calling the plays for

419
00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Bobby or working not calling the plays. But I think

420
00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Jeff's the only coach that ever had any influence in

421
00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Bobby's play calling, although Bobby clearly ran the offense, and

422
00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Jeff would say he learned a lot from

423
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Bobby too. Bobby is still a great play caller. I think. However,

424
00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Nick Saban wanted to hire him, right he knew that

425
00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.160
<v Speaker 2>he could offer Jeff, you'll come here and call my

426
00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.480
<v Speaker 2>plays with Bobby, you're not doing that. But Jeff, obviously

427
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:03.319
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to coach his brother. I mean, that's a

428
00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.400
<v Speaker 2>special thing. He's from Louisville, he loves Louisville. He's gonna

429
00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.799
<v Speaker 2>go take the same job at Alabama, which he probably

430
00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:11.160
<v Speaker 2>would have made a lot more money. He would have

431
00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.759
<v Speaker 2>actually been calling the plays. It's Nick Saban, It's Alabama.

432
00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.599
<v Speaker 2>But you know, he wanted to stick around, only for

433
00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.480
<v Speaker 2>then a year later Bobby to go to the NFL

434
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and Crackthorpe and Jurich trying to fool people that it

435
00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:30.839
<v Speaker 2>was a disaster, trying to make it appear that this

436
00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.279
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a bad mistake that we're all going to regret,

437
00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.000
<v Speaker 2>which it ended up being. They blamed it all on Jeff.

438
00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:39.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, there was some there was some bumping of

439
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.519
<v Speaker 2>heads between Jeff Brom and Steve Cragthorpe because Brom was

440
00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.759
<v Speaker 2>a holdover on that staff that Crackthorpe, you know, crack

441
00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Thorp came in. And it usually can be weird. I

442
00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:51.039
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say usually, but it's not unusual for it to

443
00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.200
<v Speaker 2>be awkward if you've got a leftover on a staff

444
00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.079
<v Speaker 2>because you guys, if you've never worked together, like it's

445
00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:57.680
<v Speaker 2>just you know, there's a reason coaches bringing their own guys.

446
00:21:58.039 --> 00:21:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But there was no I mean, there was no I mean,

447
00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:05.359
<v Speaker 2>let's be real. If if Jurich was looking for a

448
00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.039
<v Speaker 2>coach and the coach said, I'm not going to keep

449
00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:10.680
<v Speaker 2>your oc who happens to be the brother and a

450
00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.039
<v Speaker 2>successful guy, but he's the brother of our star quarterback

451
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.160
<v Speaker 2>who's a Heisman Trophy a candidate the following like, he's

452
00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:17.960
<v Speaker 2>just no scenario like it was. There was no scenario

453
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.880
<v Speaker 2>where Brom wasn't going to be working alongside Crackthorpe and

454
00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.799
<v Speaker 2>they bumped, they butted heads a lot, and I mean,

455
00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean the stories are out there, but like when

456
00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.960
<v Speaker 2>things were going bad, Crackthorpe, I think was telling I

457
00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:32.839
<v Speaker 2>don't know think he was telling Jurich this, but Jurich

458
00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.440
<v Speaker 2>started to worry that maybe because he wanted Crackthorpe out,

459
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that he was sabotaging the Louisville offense, meaning bron which

460
00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>is just ridiculous that he would do that to his

461
00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>brother's career, but his brother, I mean, it's just it's insane.

462
00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But the paranoia was pretty high at that point. And

463
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that's bad blood, you know, that was that was That

464
00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:51.640
<v Speaker 2>was an ugly, ugly thing to happen to Jeff Brom

465
00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.599
<v Speaker 2>who again turned down Nick Saban in Alabama, only for

466
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.720
<v Speaker 2>a year later to be thrown under the bus and

467
00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:00.839
<v Speaker 2>fired or I guess mutual, you know, it was a

468
00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:02.519
<v Speaker 2>mutual parting of ways, I think in the end. But

469
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 2>he was out, he was They dumped Jeff to the

470
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.400
<v Speaker 2>curb to try to act like that was why the

471
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Crackthorpe parra got off to such a bad start, and

472
00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.240
<v Speaker 2>we all, I mean, Jeff is killing it now and

473
00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.559
<v Speaker 2>he's successful, so you can even add that to the

474
00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>whole story here of how awesome it is that he's

475
00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:23.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, that he's home and look, I know, like

476
00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:28.359
<v Speaker 2>it makes it even more awkward and difficult if you

477
00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:31.240
<v Speaker 2>have all this the connection the story, and you know,

478
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:33.759
<v Speaker 2>like things don't work out. But I don't think about

479
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>that until I see things aren't working out. And so far,

480
00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.960
<v Speaker 2>so good. I don't know why people remind me of that. Well,

481
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be careful, Okay, Yeah, if he ends up stinking,

482
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:43.160
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be difficult. But why are you thinking about that?

483
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>He hasn't shown us any sign that, like he's not

484
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:47.240
<v Speaker 2>going to be super successful here. Now will he get

485
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:50.319
<v Speaker 2>us to the championship? I don't know, but so far

486
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:51.759
<v Speaker 2>so good. Quick break, come back on the other side,

487
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:56.680
<v Speaker 2>keep it rolling along here On Sports Talk seven ninety so,

488
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>two people in the text line have asked the same question,

489
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.640
<v Speaker 2>just asked the little litle bit differently, and that is, is

490
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.799
<v Speaker 2>there any truth to Jeff Braun, the bron family, and

491
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Tom Jurich being enemies or having bad blood? Only they

492
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>could truly answer that question in regards to like the

493
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.079
<v Speaker 2>like the emotion and feeling. But yeah, I mean that

494
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that was a tough situation. You know, I just give

495
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.720
<v Speaker 2>you some I mean I don't even have to. I mean,

496
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of background info. Like it's

497
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:27.559
<v Speaker 2>not like I was behind the scenes back then. That

498
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.599
<v Speaker 2>was a long long time ago, but just look at

499
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 2>what played out. You know, Brian was entering his last

500
00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>year at Louisville and Bobby left for the NFL. So

501
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Tom knew he was going to hire, and he was

502
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 2>really good at hiring coaches. He made some really good hires,

503
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 2>but he made a bad one with Steve Cragthorpe RP.

504
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>But that didn't work out here. And I think Jeff

505
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:54.200
<v Speaker 2>was able to tell pretty early on that Crackthorpe was

506
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.839
<v Speaker 2>not like this, this isn't gonna work like I mean,

507
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I think Jeff had the confidence and himself as a coach,

508
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and he was already there before him, and I think

509
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>he I mean, this is all just speculation on my end,

510
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.759
<v Speaker 2>but I would imagine that he was able to to

511
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>see right away that hey, this guy's probably in over

512
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:15.200
<v Speaker 2>his head and this isn't gonna work out. And that's

513
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.200
<v Speaker 2>exactly what happened with with Steve Kragthorpe. And you know,

514
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I think he expressed that to Tom. I would assume

515
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 2>that he did. And in the end they decided to

516
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.839
<v Speaker 2>move on from Jeff and and you know, I'm sure

517
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't happy about that. I think at that time,

518
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 2>he went down to work for coach Nellenberger at FAU

519
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>and of course Brian went off to the NFL. But

520
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, that was that was that was probably not

521
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 2>a fun time for them. So even if it's not personal,

522
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I think those are things that, in my opinion, it's

523
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 2>almost impossible not to take personal, especially when you have

524
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like Louisville football is in is part of

525
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the brom DNA, you know, so to be let go

526
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>after you gave so much your family has Again, these

527
00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>guys chose Louisville before, like it was. I mean, not

528
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.720
<v Speaker 2>to rehash what we talked about yesterday, but when these

529
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>guys committed Louisville, they did it because their dad went

530
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>to Louisville, they love Louisville, and they're from Louisville. They

531
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 2>knew at the time they were going to a football

532
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:16.599
<v Speaker 2>program that was, you know, flat out inferior to programs

533
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 2>that really wanted them. So then to be, you know,

534
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>let go when you kind of know deep down that

535
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.839
<v Speaker 2>they're letting you go and yet you are a better

536
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>coach than that guy, Like that's got to be a

537
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 2>tough thing to deal with. And I'm sure the bron

538
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>family overall, didn't you know, didn't love how that thing

539
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 2>played out the way that it did. But what really

540
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>got weird was when Jeff was at Western and when

541
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Jeff was at Purdue. Obviously, you know, when Jeff was

542
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>at both those schools, he was in Louisville a lot

543
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>because Louisll was home to him, right, So he would

544
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 2>come back to Louisville and do media interviews like I

545
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>had him on the show when he was at Purdue.

546
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 2>I had him on the show when he was at Western,

547
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and he went on all kinds of other radio shows

548
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure did some TV stuff I believe to promote,

549
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, really basically saying hey, once you guys, come

550
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>check out a game at Western Kentucky a loto WKU alum. Right.

551
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>And then when he started doing it at Purdue, you know,

552
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it was a little bit of a stretch. But then again,

553
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's the Broms, you know, well, like Purdue wasn't

554
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 2>a threat to us. Whenever Jeff got the job, I

555
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see Perdue do well. And then you started realizing, Okay,

556
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>these guys are are going up against each other for recruits,

557
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 2>and Louisvill was losing recruits to Bobby at the end.

558
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 2>So I say all that to say Tom hated that

559
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Tom would I mean, I never got the talking too,

560
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>because I think shortly after this thing happened, it ended

561
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>badly for Tom and for Rick with the whole FBI thing.

562
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>But I had the Broms squad in studio to just

563
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.240
<v Speaker 2>do an interview. And you know, obviously they're representing the

564
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>school that they work for, and that's Purdue. And you know,

565
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>at the time, we were cards Radio and it had

566
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.440
<v Speaker 2>been made clear to my bosses that that was a

567
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>no no, like I made a mistake and that you know,

568
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I needed to be I guess, you know, waiting for

569
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 2>some kind of a punishment or some kind of a

570
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>talking to because that kind of stuff happened. And I

571
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>always defend Tom in a way because I think the

572
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.519
<v Speaker 2>reason he was like that about like media stuff is

573
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>because he cared so much and he he really did

574
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 2>build Louisville's athletic department to what it is not to

575
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>say that, you know, others weren't a big factor in

576
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 2>that success. They were, but like Tom Jurich really changed

577
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>everything about Louisville athletics from top to bottom. Other than basketball,

578
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>of course, which is already well established. But hey, he

579
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:37.359
<v Speaker 2>brought Rick Patino in, and I'm not sure where basketball

580
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>would be if that higher wasn't made at that time.

581
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>So Tom did, in fact think you were insulting him,

582
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and he was taking it personal if you said anything

583
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>about the programs, which is not how you should operate

584
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 2>in that position in my opinion. But I always give

585
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 2>him the benefit of doubt because I think he cared

586
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 2>that much and he he's very loyal to the people

587
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that are loyal to him. And if you know, I'm

588
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>bringing in a coach to talk about Purdue, he he

589
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>thinks that's you know, that's a no no. And to

590
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>be fair, we were you know, we were broadcast partners

591
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 2>at that time, so you know, I think that was

592
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>just Tom being Tom. But there's also there's it's always

593
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 2>been in my mind that like he was doing that

594
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 2>because he didn't want Bram around any you know, he

595
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>just it didn't end well between those two. So I'll

596
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>never We'll never know, and it's not relevant. But this

597
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 2>question has come up before, and that is that if

598
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Jurich never got fired, would would Braun be the coach here?

599
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>And we'll never know, like it's just speculation, but I

600
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>think there would have needed to be you know, again,

601
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I have no clue, but my gut would

602
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>tell me that if that was to ever happen and

603
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>it was Tom trying to bring him back, there would

604
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 2>have needed to be you know, a good sit down

605
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>for them to you know, probably air it out, probably

606
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>do a lot of yelling. That would be my guess. Man.

607
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Just just looking back on all this stuff has really

608
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 2>reminded me how long I've been doing this. Not to

609
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>say I'm some you know, old veteran, but like, you know,

610
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>like some of the stuff that I'm referring to, there

611
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>are people listening in their twenties, even late twenties that

612
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>like they don't remember that because they were in elementary

613
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 2>school or something. I mean, am I an og? John?

614
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I might be?

615
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 3>You might be the last remaining og.

616
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh There's no There's plenty out there that are a

617
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 2>lot older than me, and they remember a lot more

618
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 2>than I said.

619
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 3>What I mean by that is like the last like

620
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 3>you're the younger side of the Oh.

621
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, no, that could be it. Maybe that's maybe

622
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<v Speaker 2>that's where I stand when it comes to all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know hanks that you know are fortunate to be

624
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<v Speaker 2>able to have a platform to yap about sports, although

625
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<v Speaker 2>you know it used to be really really like frowned

626
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<v Speaker 2>upon to to, you know, to I say, like work

627
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<v Speaker 2>for al but now you can create your own like

628
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<v Speaker 2>you can do your own thing now again, you got

629
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<v Speaker 2>to be pretty good. You gotta be entertaining, you gotta

630
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<v Speaker 2>have a following. But you know, like there are people

631
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<v Speaker 2>who launch their own shows on YouTube or just a

632
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<v Speaker 2>podcast whatever, and they end up taking off and having

633
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of success, like the way you can. You

634
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<v Speaker 2>don't need a large corporation a media entity to give

635
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<v Speaker 2>you a platform. I mean, you don't need that now

636
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>like you used to. That still is a big deal,

637
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm very appreciative of what I have here. But

638
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, covering a team as a fan, a guy

639
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>who's clearly not gonna hide that he's a fan years ago,

640
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<v Speaker 2>like you would you know, the Capitol Jays, they thought,

641
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know they fanboys.

642
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<v Speaker 3>They still do that, do they?

643
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, certain places used to work with one.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

645
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like what I don't understand is like who

646
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<v Speaker 2>you fooling? Like if you are somebody that has shows

647
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 2>this as your career and it's how you make ends meet. Now,

648
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a part of it you realize, Hey, it's

649
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<v Speaker 2>actually not you know, it's pretty fun and it's you know,

650
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>it's better than you know, working in a factory or

651
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 2>doing manual labor like fair enough, But like, I just

652
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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine someone out there who would never be doing

653
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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing if they were a fan. But yet

654
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<v Speaker 2>they present themselves. I mean, I don't I'm just doing

655
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<v Speaker 2>my job. I don't care who wins. I mean, I'm

656
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>not not like I'll have a dog in the fight.

657
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean like, I mean what, like then

658
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<v Speaker 2>why are you like? They don'most like what do you do?

659
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I would just look at you like, dude, that's a

660
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>weird hobby to dedicate your you know, your entire livelihood

661
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<v Speaker 2>to covering a team that you don't care if they

662
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<v Speaker 2>win or lose. What like, you know, So doing it

663
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 2>has helped me at times deal with losses because you know,

664
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<v Speaker 2>I honestly being able to yap about it on the

665
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>radio has been therapeutic for me. I wouldn't survive Kenny

666
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Paynair without that. That, So you know, I'm I've always

667
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<v Speaker 2>never made it. I've never made it a secret that, like,

668
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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big Louisville fan, and I maybe I'm in

669
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<v Speaker 2>my own world here thinking that I can be a

670
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<v Speaker 2>fan and still be objective. I think I can. But

671
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<v Speaker 2>you know, do you ever ask this real quick?

672
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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

673
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<v Speaker 3>Do you think the first basketball postgame show is going

674
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 3>to feel weird but in a good way? Because of

675
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 3>what the basketball postgame shows have been for the last

676
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<v Speaker 3>two years?

677
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it'll be weird. And you gotta keep in mind,

678
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even get a chance to direct to immediate

679
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<v Speaker 2>react to the games we saw in the Bahamas, you

680
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So it'll I think we're gonna

681
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<v Speaker 2>be on cloud nine because of you know, two main reasons.

682
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>One because we are going to be just clearly a

683
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 2>lot better off than we were. But that's not really

684
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<v Speaker 2>the bar. I mean, you want to be a lot

685
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you want to be a top tier program,

686
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and you can be. But like, we're gonna be beating

687
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>teams that we used to beat fifteen, ten, even five

688
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and you wouldn't care. And now we're gonna

689
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>be like, hell, yeah that was awesome. We're gonna know

690
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>what it is and we're gonna probably have to remind ourselves,

691
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, forgot what this is, Like, this is what

692
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to do. But like when you've gone through

693
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<v Speaker 2>what little Basketball has gone through the last couple of years, Yeah,

694
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<v Speaker 2>you're we may people may be driving through the region

695
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>here popping on sports talks seven to ninety after Louisville

696
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>takes down the Morehead State and you know they don't

697
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>They're not from here, and they're listening and they're like, wow,

698
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>did somebody just win the national champ This fan base

699
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>is fired up, Like I'm exaggerating, but like no, and

700
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for it because it was just a big

701
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>sad sadness. It was just sad the last couple of years.

702
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited. And you know, I think, you know,

703
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey is going to have success. I mean, how

704
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 2>successfully is in year one? That remains to be seen.

705
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>But you know, to answer your question, John, I think

706
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<v Speaker 2>the vibes are going to be phenomenal. And we've needed

707
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>those vibes for quite some time. All right, great vibes

708
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<v Speaker 2>at the Jeffer's Animal Hospital. I'm telling you, when it

709
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<v Speaker 2>comes to an emergency that happens with your pet, most

710
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>people don't have a plan because you don't really plan

711
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>for emergencies because you know they're not expected. That's why

712
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>they're emergencies. And if it happens, you know with your pet,

713
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>you may not really know what to do because it's

714
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>not like you're gonna call nine one one, right. I mean,

715
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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could, and they would. I don't mean,

716
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what they would say, but I'm

717
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you what you need to do. If in fact,

718
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>something happens to your pet, you need to reach out

719
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<v Speaker 2>to the fine folks at Jefferson Animal Hospital because they

720
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<v Speaker 2>have got you covered. Doesn't matter day or night, holiday, whatever,

721
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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be open. They've been opened since nineteen eighty,

722
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<v Speaker 2>serving this lobal community for forty four years, twenty four

723
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<v Speaker 2>hours a day, including holidays. They've got a doctor on

724
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<v Speaker 2>site every night, including Christmas, any day, any night, any shift.

725
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Jefferson Animal Hospitals dedicated doctors and staff have you and

726
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 2>your pets covered in the case of an emergency. You

727
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>can schedule an appointment for any time of the day or night,

728
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>walk right in. They're gonna help you and they're passionate

729
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>about what they do, so again, it's a Jefferson Animal

730
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<v Speaker 2>Hospital on outer loop. Give them a call BABO to

731
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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred pets or visit Jefferson Vets dot com. You

732
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<v Speaker 2>keep them in mind, as I mentioned, if something happens

733
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 2>that's scary, you know they're there for you. But also

734
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<v Speaker 2>if you just want to make sure that your pet

735
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<v Speaker 2>is being taken care of and is healthy, then just

736
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<v Speaker 2>give them a call, schedule appointment and I'm sure you'll

737
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>be happy that you did. All right, quick break will

738
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<v Speaker 2>come back and wrap it up on the other side

739
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:54.519
<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety we've mentioned it

740
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>many times that because we just are in caves throughout this,

741
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, three and a half roughly three out have

742
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 2>to four hour window of the day, we don't really

743
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 2>know what the weather is doing. But it sounds like

744
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 2>we had a lot of storms. They canceled my son's

745
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>football practice, so you know, I guess we needed the rain.

746
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a really old person thing to say, but a

747
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of neighbor a lot of my neighbors.

748
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>They had some some uh some orange looking grass.

749
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure my grass for the first time and over

750
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.480
<v Speaker 3>a month early a few days ago.

751
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<v Speaker 2>And it was probably. I mean, was it probably not

752
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 2>in good shape as far as health, but it probably

753
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>was nice to not have to cut.

754
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 3>It for that long, right it was because it was

755
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 3>so hot.

756
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't We didn't get a whole lot of rain.

757
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, real quick on the weather, it looks like

758
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be some rain coming in during the Louder

759
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>than Life music festival. And I've heard like four different

760
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 2>people say yeah, I'm not really sure they care, meaning

761
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>like the people that go like that's insulting. I mean,

762
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe they will tough it out more so than

763
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 2>somebody going to some lame music festival, but like I

764
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>just think it's weird. They're like, oh yeah, nobody cares.

765
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean again, they'll probably have fun with it,

766
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>because that seems to be the nature of a lot

767
00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.079
<v Speaker 2>of people who go to that festival rain. It'll be

768
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna make it.

769
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<v Speaker 3>Work because the last time there was a bunch of storms,

770
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 3>which is back like during the time of the festival,

771
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.000
<v Speaker 3>it got canceled back when they were the Champions Park.

772
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>But that I think the drainage system there is a

773
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<v Speaker 3>whole lot worse than what they've got at the Expo Center.

774
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that ended up being a because.

775
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Bourbon and Beyond the weekend before got canceled too.

776
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. They were both at the same place, right,

777
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 2>they're both champion champions parks where it used to be

778
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean again where they ended up going and putting

779
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it now again the what is it called the Highlands Ground,

780
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Highland the Highland Festival Ground, Highland Festival Ground. Why I

781
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>keep saying Highland Ground? I mean, you know, to me,

782
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, a big field next to the fairgrounds.

783
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 2>But clearly they have enough space there and it's it's

784
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>worked out well. I mean, they had a record crowd

785
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>here at Bourbon and Beyond and I think there'll be

786
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

787
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Of a lot of might be some mud sling in

788
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>this weekend.

789
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know they're gonna embrace the mud, right,

790
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 2>That's just that's I'll give you a full report. I

791
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>can't wait. All right, everybody had a good night. We're

792
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 2>back at it tomorrow right here, hopefully. I don't you know,

793
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<v Speaker 2>have Jerry duty