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Speaker 2: I'll find out tomorrow morning. But I think I have
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea of what the process is. Is
Speaker 2: tomorrow for me for jury duty. And I know that
Speaker 2: none of you care about me going to Jerry duty,
Speaker 2: but if it, if they keep me, it could keep
Speaker 2: you from, you know, getting me on this show, because
Speaker 2: you know they have say so they can keep me
Speaker 2: from working. But I don't think I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: worry about that. So tomorrow's orientation for Jerry Duty, John,
Speaker 2: and that lasts about an hour, okay, so like that'll
Speaker 2: just be a short not official Jerry duty says you
Speaker 2: check in orientation from the jury clerk and a visit
Speaker 2: to a courtroom where the judge explains the case. After orientation,
Speaker 2: jurors are either selected for a jury panel or excused.
Speaker 2: And during this orientation process, like when I and I
Speaker 2: will see well, a lot of people have said this
Speaker 2: on the text line and even on Twitter, and I
Speaker 2: was just talking to somebody who works here that kind
Speaker 2: of said the same thing. Is if you if you
Speaker 2: mentioned that you work for a talk radio station, sports
Speaker 2: or even you know, they're gonna want you to not
Speaker 2: be a part of their jury in every way and
Speaker 2: tell you to leave, which thought, to myself, that's good.
Speaker 2: But why And it makes a little sense. I guess
Speaker 2: they fear that when I wasn't doing jury duty, I
Speaker 2: would maybe like bring up the case or something like
Speaker 2: I like, you know, like I whatever gets me out
Speaker 2: of it is great. And I do like the idea
Speaker 2: of like being on a jury because I think it
Speaker 2: would be interesting as somebody who's interested in like, you know,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to miss work because I mean, there's a reason this
Speaker 2: show is called company because we got the company man,
Speaker 2: and I'm a company man myself. Like, I mean, they
Speaker 2: don't even know what I would do this for free.
Speaker 2: I kind of do anyway. But it's a different story.
Speaker 2: So hopefully Jerry duty is not, you know, not something
Speaker 2: that keeps me from being here the rest of the week.
Speaker 2: But we shall see. But most people who have shared
Speaker 2: their story about showing up because they got the thing
Speaker 2: in the mail have said that they didn't have to
Speaker 2: do anything. They just showed up and were sent home.
Speaker 2: So hopefully that happens with me? Or maybe you know
Speaker 2: what's the what's the guy? Who's the guy or a
Speaker 2: girl who's the leader of the jery what's the name
Speaker 2: of Uh, what's that four person? Yeah? The four person
Speaker 2: is the juror charged with overseeing jury deliberations.
Speaker 3: What if they task? I mean, if they task, that's
Speaker 3: that's what you need to be doing. Here, could be
Speaker 3: the one talking, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I don't want to be there. I'd
Speaker 2: rather be here and not have to worry about, you know,
Speaker 2: missing shows and whatnot. But if if my community in
Speaker 2: Bullet County calls upon me to be the four person
Speaker 2: to help with this process of justice, than who am
Speaker 2: I to turn that away? Right? I mean, this is
Speaker 2: a duty that I owe to my community. That's what
Speaker 2: they told me in that letter. So we'll see. I
Speaker 2: got so much going on in my life right now,
Speaker 2: nothing crazy, and you know, I'm sure there are many
Speaker 2: people listening that have a lot more going on than me.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's been hectic as hell. And then
Speaker 2: it hit me yesterday, Oh yeah, I think I have
Speaker 2: Jerry duty. And here we are all right, Coffee and company,
Speaker 2: five o'clock hour. Thanks for hanging out. With us here
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Speaker 2: real quick. I know we usually don't talk a ton
Speaker 2: of recruiting on the show, but Pat Kelsey is going
Speaker 2: to be hosting one of the best players in America
Speaker 2: today tonight. I think he lands tonight. Mckel Brown Junior
Speaker 2: is a five star prospect. He is the number seven
Speaker 2: player overall in his class, and he's a point go
Speaker 2: yard and obviously that's the kind of guy that you know,
Speaker 2: if you could somehow land him, I mean, he'd be huge.
Speaker 2: I mean again, Louisville, when's the last time they landed
Speaker 2: a top seven player nationally? I think I know the answer.
Speaker 2: I think that's smart o' Samuel's that was a long
Speaker 2: time ago. So look, this kid's got offers from everybody.
Speaker 2: He's he's the kind of guy that and by the way,
Speaker 2: he lands, I think tonight at the airport. I know Tyspolden,
Speaker 2: who does some work for Cardon he actually runs Cardinalsports
Speaker 2: dot Com, is trying to organize I think some fans
Speaker 2: to show up and greet him, which, hey, that's a
Speaker 2: good that's a good initiative.
Speaker 1: Ty.
Speaker 2: So, I don't know how many people are going to
Speaker 2: show up, but I think that's actually kind of cool.
Speaker 2: So he's the kind of guy that has, I mean,
Speaker 2: the first two schools on his list that he's going
Speaker 2: to visit or has visited Kentucky, Indiana, Ole Miss, Alabama.
Speaker 2: A lot of people seem to think Old Miss is
Speaker 2: in great shape here. He he's I think he's played
Speaker 2: for a bunch of different high schools. I think he
Speaker 2: was at IMG, but now he's at DM Academy, which
Speaker 2: is one of the top prep academies out there. So
Speaker 2: he's he's such a talented player that no matter where
Speaker 2: he goes, he's gonna get paid, and the schools that
Speaker 2: he's gonna consider are going to have good in il situations.
Speaker 2: So to me, he's the kind of guy that, yeah,
Speaker 2: he won't he's going to be paid, but it's more
Speaker 2: of a yeah, I want to really just take advantage.
Speaker 2: I really want to take advantage of the one year
Speaker 2: that I have in the college game and get developed
Speaker 2: by a good coach, play for a good team, play
Speaker 2: in front of a great fan base that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: play within a system that's really going to highlight what
Speaker 2: I do well. And I don't know how Pat Kelsey's
Speaker 2: pitch is going to compare to others, but there's actually,
Speaker 2: you know, this is not one of those things where
Speaker 2: it's just going to come down to money. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe it would like maybe somebody comes over the top
Speaker 2: and just says, Okay, we're gonna give you five million,
Speaker 2: which clearly nobody would do that, but I just you know,
Speaker 2: I think Pat Kelsey having the Louisville job kind of
Speaker 2: speaks to his ability to sell, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He has a you know, his family as a background
Speaker 2: in selling. His father is one of the most successful
Speaker 2: entrepreneurs when it comes to car dealerships in Cincinnati. So
Speaker 2: you know, he could sell. He can recruit. He's shown
Speaker 2: that when he was at Charleston getting the caliber players
Speaker 2: to come to Charleston and the portal class he's put together.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that there are some people growing
Speaker 2: a little impatient because the twenty twenty five class is
Speaker 2: not there's not a commitment yet, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked if you get one here in the next couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, and you know, I think they're gonna put
Speaker 2: together a pretty good class. I'm not sure where it's
Speaker 2: gonna rank, because I think you can be really selective
Speaker 2: when it comes to high school recruits right now, because
Speaker 2: you know you don't have to have any of them.
Speaker 2: You could literally say, man, this class is kind of duds.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the year off and I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: get portal guys. I mean, that's that. I don't think
Speaker 2: you'll see guys do that every year, but occasionally they might,
Speaker 2: so you can be selective. So again, I know people
Speaker 2: are impatient, but I think get what. You know, they're
Speaker 2: not going to just take guys to take them, and
Speaker 2: they're in the mix for a lot of good players,
Speaker 2: and eventually one of them is going to pop. I
Speaker 2: would say, however, let's not forget they've already landed one
Speaker 2: of the highest ranked recruits, louisls Ever landed in Kahani
Speaker 2: Rus like that just kind of get swept under the
Speaker 2: rug because at that time we were so intrigued by
Speaker 2: all the portal additions, which again the majority of the roster,
Speaker 2: all of the roster is portal guys. Outside of Russ.
Speaker 2: But you just kind of snuck in a high four
Speaker 2: star who is at one of the top fifteen. In fact,
Speaker 2: I think he might even be a top ten recruit
Speaker 2: of all time here according to the rankings. So I'm
Speaker 2: not worried yet. And again I hate to say this
Speaker 2: because I know people can. Recruiting is always going to
Speaker 2: be a big deal when it comes to programs, right.
Speaker 2: It's it's still going to be an aspect of your
Speaker 2: livelihood as a coach, right bringing in young talent developing them,
Speaker 2: but not to the extent that it used to be
Speaker 2: because of the portal. So you know, even if Louisville
Speaker 2: didn't end up having a stellar freshman class that features
Speaker 2: you know, like four guys that are in the top
Speaker 2: one hundred, I would be a liar if I told
Speaker 2: you that meant I'm worried about Pat Kelsey, because again,
Speaker 2: you can be selective.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The real losers in the New World here are guys
Speaker 2: that are fringe because they're not going to get that
Speaker 2: offer from the bigger program because they'll say, yeah, you're good,
Speaker 2: but it might take me three years to get something
Speaker 2: really valuable out of you, and I don't have time
Speaker 2: for that. So yeah, Pat Kelsey in his staff, they've
Speaker 2: been working hard on the recruiting trail and they've had
Speaker 2: some guys come in for visits, and I'm sure eventually
Speaker 2: one of these guys is going to make a decision,
Speaker 2: and hopefully it's Louisville. All right, we'll step a basketball
Speaker 2: really quickly here before we get back to the Notre
Speaker 2: Dame Louisville matchup, because yesterday the ACC announced that Louisville
Speaker 2: is going to play Duke in their ACC opener that'll
Speaker 2: be in early December, and we'll get the full basketball
Speaker 2: schedule tonight. By the way, the entire Louisville hoop schedule
Speaker 2: will be unveiled as soon as the ACC announces everybody's
Speaker 2: league schedule. And we know who Louisville, like, we know
Speaker 2: the schedule, we just don't know the dates. Like we
Speaker 2: already know which teams you play twice, which teams you
Speaker 2: play once, and if you're gonna be at their place
Speaker 2: or hosting them. We just don't know how they're laying
Speaker 2: it out. And that does matter, by the way, I mean,
Speaker 2: you can have a tough stretch just by the way
Speaker 2: the conference set up your schedule. That might be a
Speaker 2: real rough month for you in January or February. That
Speaker 2: could be impactful for your tournament seating and whatnot. So
Speaker 2: it does matter, But overall, as far as who they're
Speaker 2: going to play, like, we already know. So I feel
Speaker 2: comfortable in saying that right now with Tennessee a top
Speaker 2: fifteen team preseason, Indiana a top twenty team preseason. Maybe
Speaker 2: you get West Virginia they're not top twenty, but still
Speaker 2: that's a big twelve team that's got a good coach
Speaker 2: that comes from from Drake who brought his son who
Speaker 2: might be the best shooter in the country. Maybe you
Speaker 2: mess around and end up getting Gonzaga, that's a top
Speaker 2: five team. And then who are the other teams in
Speaker 2: the like who who could you end up playing? I
Speaker 2: guess there it could be anybody from.
Speaker 3: There's Providence, there's Arizona.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're trying to Arizona's a top ten team preseason.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma's in there.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma don't know where they're gonna be ranked, but you know, Man,
Speaker 2: then Davidson's the other one. Yeah, Davidson's the only one.
Speaker 2: And not that they're like, you know, chumps, but they're
Speaker 2: they're clearly not the rest of the field, right, it's
Speaker 2: like a G five team. Yeah, exact perfectly said. So
Speaker 2: that event alone is going to result in you playing
Speaker 2: some really really good teams, and who knows, like if
Speaker 2: you if you win while you're there, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to get past the Hoosiers, they got
Speaker 2: a talented squad. But if you win while you're there, like,
Speaker 2: the more you keep winning, the more likely you're gonna
Speaker 2: play really good teams. So I mean it's not likely,
Speaker 2: but like if you got Indiana Gonzaga in Arizona in
Speaker 2: some I mean, I don't even know if that could
Speaker 2: break down that way with the bracket, but like the
Speaker 2: event's loaded and you lost. Was it Nova or was
Speaker 2: it Creighton?
Speaker 3: Creighton went to that nil event? Okay, Providence replaced him, gotcha.
Speaker 2: So you know, we don't know exactly how it's gonna
Speaker 2: play out yet, but we know in the Bahamas at
Speaker 2: the Battle of for Atlantis, they're going to be facing
Speaker 2: some really really good teams in every game other than
Speaker 2: maybe a potential matchup with Dayton or Davidson. Not dat dah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dave Davidson, thank you. So and then you
Speaker 2: come back from the Bahamas, very little time to rest,
Speaker 2: and then you've got the acc SEC Challenge where you
Speaker 2: play Ole Miss Chris Beard's team, a top twenty team,
Speaker 2: and then a week later you will be playing Duke
Speaker 2: at Home, who will be top ten for sure, and
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have the best player in the country,
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag. And then within a week's time of that,
Speaker 2: you will play Kentucky at Ruck their top twenty five preseason.
Speaker 2: I think they'll probably end up getting the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt and be a top twenty team in the
Speaker 2: actual ap pole that comes out. And even if they
Speaker 2: struggled a little bit early on, you're still playing Kentucky
Speaker 2: and Ruck. And I think Mark Pope's a really good coach.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's not hopefully he's a bum. But like I'd
Speaker 2: be lying to you if I said, I think he's
Speaker 2: going to be terrible. There so on paper and it
Speaker 2: all means nothing. You know, once the season starts and
Speaker 2: you actually see who's good and who's not right, you
Speaker 2: toss the paper away once you actually have the ability
Speaker 2: to get results and see where everybody stands. But I
Speaker 2: can't remember looking at a Louisville schedule before the season
Speaker 2: started in November and December, that was as challenging as this,
Speaker 2: and I'm excited about it now. I have no I mean,
Speaker 2: I have no clue how successful they're going to be
Speaker 2: in some of these games, because the reality is this,
Speaker 2: they could play well and lose to some of these
Speaker 2: teams because they're really good. But if you get battle tested,
Speaker 2: you take some lumps in this early part of the schedule,
Speaker 2: and yet you end up still being very competitive in
Speaker 2: the acc which you should be. Let's say you end
Speaker 2: up being one of the better teams in your league.
Speaker 2: If those teams that beat you early on end up
Speaker 2: still being pretty damn good. This is the kind of
Speaker 2: thing to where you could end up getting into like
Speaker 2: the early the early net rankings that come out that
Speaker 2: the NAA gives, as I always forget when they put
Speaker 2: those out. It's a January endings January. But either way,
Speaker 2: like you could end up having a record that doesn't
Speaker 2: look great, but yet you're really highly ranked because of
Speaker 2: how loaded your the front part of your schedule was.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited, I am, and I'm gonna be in
Speaker 2: Charlotte not next week, but week after that, two weeks
Speaker 2: from now. For the ACC basketball tip off, looking forward
Speaker 2: to that. Can't wait hoops And that's the thing, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not impatiently waiting for hoops season to start when
Speaker 2: I got football. That's why once, I mean again, my
Speaker 2: calendar year starts when we get football season, because then
Speaker 2: basketball be here before you know it. And it's just
Speaker 2: you know, it's my happy place, all right. It is
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Speaker 2: our first break, let's talk about Let's talk about two
Speaker 2: people that are really, really good football coaches. One clearly
Speaker 2: is on a different planet than everybody. That's Nick Saban.
Speaker 2: The other's Jeff Brohm, who no clue if he's gonna
Speaker 2: come close to any of accomplishments that Nick Saban has.
Speaker 2: But obviously Louisville fans, myself included, fel pretty good about
Speaker 2: who they have leading their football program. So let me
Speaker 2: just give you a crazy stat about Nick Saban. First,
Speaker 2: they are currently two point dogs against Georgia this weekend.
Speaker 2: The last time Alabama was a home underdog was when
Speaker 2: they played LSU in two thousand and seven. If that
Speaker 2: isn't one of the most impressive things about the Nick
Speaker 2: Saban era at Alabama, I don't know what would be more.
Speaker 2: Mean again, that's insane if you really think about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, two thousand and seven, John, what were you doing.
Speaker 3: Man, I've been ten years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Was that the beginning of the Nick Saban erab By
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like yeah, I mean he was Look, he
Speaker 2: was dominant there. I mean, I'm not telling you guys
Speaker 2: anything you didn't know. But really it was one year
Speaker 2: where he kind of in fact, he lost to Louisiana
Speaker 2: in row and it was, you know, didn't get off
Speaker 2: to a great start, and then it quickly did get
Speaker 2: rolling and they never looked back. Like down years for
Speaker 2: Bama were what with Nick Saban, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, being like number ten in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. I mean, let's see, they lost to
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and the Sugar Bowl back in you know, it's
Speaker 2: probably about I don't know, eight nine years ago, and
Speaker 2: yet they still probably won eleven games. Like let me
Speaker 2: pull up his record here. So Saban he went two
Speaker 2: and six. How did he go too and six in
Speaker 2: his first year? I don't I don't get that. Was
Speaker 2: he interim or no, be interim. I'm confused as to
Speaker 2: how that played out. Maybe I just need to revisit.
Speaker 2: I know how it all. I know how he got there.
Speaker 2: He was LSU than the NFL, and then you know,
Speaker 2: I went to Obama and the rest is history. But
Speaker 2: he went twelve and two in his second year overall,
Speaker 2: eight to o in SEC play, he went too straight.
Speaker 2: In his second and third year in the SEC, Sabin
Speaker 2: went sixteen and oh combined in the league. In twenty ten,
Speaker 2: they had a total three losses. They never had more
Speaker 2: than two losses after that. I mean, the guy was
Speaker 2: insane at Alabama, and he was good elsewhere too, but
Speaker 2: like he was decent at Michigan State, he was pretty
Speaker 2: damn good at LSU, but nothing like he was at Bama.
Speaker 2: I mean it was I mean again, I don't think
Speaker 2: you'll ever see a better college football coach than Nick Saban.
Speaker 2: And this guy, he's a big fan of Jeff Brown.
Speaker 2: I'd forgot all about this, like I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: because it's been so long, maybe because so much has
Speaker 2: happened since then. But like I was talking yesterday about
Speaker 2: how nobody can be happier than Oscar brom former Louisville
Speaker 2: quarterback himself, who you know, played at Louisville before you
Speaker 2: know it was the cool thing to do. He had
Speaker 2: some really, really talented kids that could have gone to
Speaker 2: some big time programs, but they stayed and followed in
Speaker 2: dad's footsteps and played here and left their mark on
Speaker 2: the program. And now now Jeff is leading the program
Speaker 2: and all and the brothers are on the staff, so
Speaker 2: like he's got to be happy as hell. But I'd
Speaker 2: forgot about there being some adversity, some bad blood a
Speaker 2: little bit in between there. And yet that never, that
Speaker 2: never changed Jeff and the Brom family's feelings towards Louisville.
Speaker 2: So this is this is from the s V pod.
Speaker 2: It's the Scott Bene Pelp podcast. And obviously Nick Saban
Speaker 2: now working for ESPN. Apparently those two were chatting and
Speaker 2: Brom or not Brom, but Saban was open up Louisville
Speaker 2: and he shared this with with SVP about Jeff Brown, Syrahcuseton.
Speaker 4: I lost today, but Louisville's three and oh they got
Speaker 4: Notre Dame next, go ahead. I was just gonna say
Speaker 4: that was Louisville's third game. That was Georgia Tech's fifth game. Right,
Speaker 4: Like all these teams with the early buys, it's kind
Speaker 4: of crazy. I actually I can't wait to go watch
Speaker 4: Louisville on tape because I haven't really been able to
Speaker 4: dive in on them. I know broms Saban talking the
Speaker 4: other day, we were like, what about Louisville. He's like, uh,
Speaker 4: brom He's like tried to hire them multiple times unsuccessfully.
Speaker 4: I think the world of them until you know, you
Speaker 4: need to know you think the same and Brom as
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: I love that guy's.
Speaker 1: I've always I've always been impressed by his play calling.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of teams that have won.
Speaker 2: So, I mean Nick Saban one just saying that about
Speaker 2: your coach behind closed doors. By the way, that's not
Speaker 2: like he didn't say that on set when they're talking
Speaker 2: about Louisville. He's just talking to SVP about how much
Speaker 2: he thinks Jeff Brohm's a great coach. And I mean,
Speaker 2: how many coaches have turned Nick Saban down to join
Speaker 2: their staff. I mean not many. I'm curious when he
Speaker 2: would have been offered. Oh I'm about to tell you, okay.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember Jeff being here obviously coaching the
Speaker 2: offense when Brian was the quarterback, and I knew that
Speaker 2: it didn't end well. But it's not something that comes
Speaker 2: to mind very often. But yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 2: a story locally here, you know, the Capitol Jay's were
Speaker 2: covering it that while he was calling the plays for
Speaker 2: Bobby or working not calling the plays. But I think
Speaker 2: Jeff's the only coach that ever had any influence in
Speaker 2: Bobby's play calling, although Bobby clearly ran the offense, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure Jeff would say he learned a lot from
Speaker 2: Bobby too. Bobby is still a great play caller. I think. However,
Speaker 2: Nick Saban wanted to hire him, right he knew that
Speaker 2: he could offer Jeff, you'll come here and call my
Speaker 2: plays with Bobby, you're not doing that. But Jeff, obviously
Speaker 2: he wanted to coach his brother. I mean, that's a
Speaker 2: special thing. He's from Louisville, he loves Louisville. He's gonna
Speaker 2: go take the same job at Alabama, which he probably
Speaker 2: would have made a lot more money. He would have
Speaker 2: actually been calling the plays. It's Nick Saban, It's Alabama.
Speaker 2: But you know, he wanted to stick around, only for
Speaker 2: then a year later Bobby to go to the NFL
Speaker 2: and Crackthorpe and Jurich trying to fool people that it
Speaker 2: was a disaster, trying to make it appear that this
Speaker 2: wasn't a bad mistake that we're all going to regret,
Speaker 2: which it ended up being. They blamed it all on Jeff.
Speaker 2: You know, there was some there was some bumping of
Speaker 2: heads between Jeff Brom and Steve Cragthorpe because Brom was
Speaker 2: a holdover on that staff that Crackthorpe, you know, crack
Speaker 2: Thorp came in. And it usually can be weird. I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say usually, but it's not unusual for it to
Speaker 2: be awkward if you've got a leftover on a staff
Speaker 2: because you guys, if you've never worked together, like it's
Speaker 2: just you know, there's a reason coaches bringing their own guys.
Speaker 2: But there was no I mean, there was no I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be real. If if Jurich was looking for a
Speaker 2: coach and the coach said, I'm not going to keep
Speaker 2: your oc who happens to be the brother and a
Speaker 2: successful guy, but he's the brother of our star quarterback
Speaker 2: who's a Heisman Trophy a candidate the following like, he's
Speaker 2: just no scenario like it was. There was no scenario
Speaker 2: where Brom wasn't going to be working alongside Crackthorpe and
Speaker 2: they bumped, they butted heads a lot, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean the stories are out there, but like when
Speaker 2: things were going bad, Crackthorpe, I think was telling I
Speaker 2: don't know think he was telling Jurich this, but Jurich
Speaker 2: started to worry that maybe because he wanted Crackthorpe out,
Speaker 2: that he was sabotaging the Louisville offense, meaning bron which
Speaker 2: is just ridiculous that he would do that to his
Speaker 2: brother's career, but his brother, I mean, it's just it's insane.
Speaker 2: But the paranoia was pretty high at that point. And
Speaker 2: that's bad blood, you know, that was that was That
Speaker 2: was an ugly, ugly thing to happen to Jeff Brom
Speaker 2: who again turned down Nick Saban in Alabama, only for
Speaker 2: a year later to be thrown under the bus and
Speaker 2: fired or I guess mutual, you know, it was a
Speaker 2: mutual parting of ways, I think in the end. But
Speaker 2: he was out, he was They dumped Jeff to the
Speaker 2: curb to try to act like that was why the
Speaker 2: Crackthorpe parra got off to such a bad start, and
Speaker 2: we all, I mean, Jeff is killing it now and
Speaker 2: he's successful, so you can even add that to the
Speaker 2: whole story here of how awesome it is that he's
Speaker 2: you know, that he's home and look, I know, like
Speaker 2: it makes it even more awkward and difficult if you
Speaker 2: have all this the connection the story, and you know,
Speaker 2: like things don't work out. But I don't think about
Speaker 2: that until I see things aren't working out. And so far,
Speaker 2: so good. I don't know why people remind me of that. Well,
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful, Okay, Yeah, if he ends up stinking,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be difficult. But why are you thinking about that?
Speaker 2: He hasn't shown us any sign that, like he's not
Speaker 2: going to be super successful here. Now will he get
Speaker 2: us to the championship? I don't know, but so far
Speaker 2: so good. Quick break, come back on the other side,
Speaker 2: keep it rolling along here On Sports Talk seven ninety so,
Speaker 2: two people in the text line have asked the same question,
Speaker 2: just asked the little litle bit differently, and that is, is
Speaker 2: there any truth to Jeff Braun, the bron family, and
Speaker 2: Tom Jurich being enemies or having bad blood? Only they
Speaker 2: could truly answer that question in regards to like the
Speaker 2: like the emotion and feeling. But yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: that was a tough situation. You know, I just give
Speaker 2: you some I mean I don't even have to. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of background info. Like it's
Speaker 2: not like I was behind the scenes back then. That
Speaker 2: was a long long time ago, but just look at
Speaker 2: what played out. You know, Brian was entering his last
Speaker 2: year at Louisville and Bobby left for the NFL. So
Speaker 2: Tom knew he was going to hire, and he was
Speaker 2: really good at hiring coaches. He made some really good hires,
Speaker 2: but he made a bad one with Steve Cragthorpe RP.
Speaker 2: But that didn't work out here. And I think Jeff
Speaker 2: was able to tell pretty early on that Crackthorpe was
Speaker 2: not like this, this isn't gonna work like I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Jeff had the confidence and himself as a coach,
Speaker 2: and he was already there before him, and I think
Speaker 2: he I mean, this is all just speculation on my end,
Speaker 2: but I would imagine that he was able to to
Speaker 2: see right away that hey, this guy's probably in over
Speaker 2: his head and this isn't gonna work out. And that's
Speaker 2: exactly what happened with with Steve Kragthorpe. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think he expressed that to Tom. I would assume
Speaker 2: that he did. And in the end they decided to
Speaker 2: move on from Jeff and and you know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he wasn't happy about that. I think at that time,
Speaker 2: he went down to work for coach Nellenberger at FAU
Speaker 2: and of course Brian went off to the NFL. But
Speaker 2: you know, that was that was that was probably not
Speaker 2: a fun time for them. So even if it's not personal,
Speaker 2: I think those are things that, in my opinion, it's
Speaker 2: almost impossible not to take personal, especially when you have
Speaker 2: I mean, like Louisville football is in is part of
Speaker 2: the brom DNA, you know, so to be let go
Speaker 2: after you gave so much your family has Again, these
Speaker 2: guys chose Louisville before, like it was. I mean, not
Speaker 2: to rehash what we talked about yesterday, but when these
Speaker 2: guys committed Louisville, they did it because their dad went
Speaker 2: to Louisville, they love Louisville, and they're from Louisville. They
Speaker 2: knew at the time they were going to a football
Speaker 2: program that was, you know, flat out inferior to programs
Speaker 2: that really wanted them. So then to be, you know,
Speaker 2: let go when you kind of know deep down that
Speaker 2: they're letting you go and yet you are a better
Speaker 2: coach than that guy, Like that's got to be a
Speaker 2: tough thing to deal with. And I'm sure the bron
Speaker 2: family overall, didn't you know, didn't love how that thing
Speaker 2: played out the way that it did. But what really
Speaker 2: got weird was when Jeff was at Western and when
Speaker 2: Jeff was at Purdue. Obviously, you know, when Jeff was
Speaker 2: at both those schools, he was in Louisville a lot
Speaker 2: because Louisll was home to him, right, So he would
Speaker 2: come back to Louisville and do media interviews like I
Speaker 2: had him on the show when he was at Purdue.
Speaker 2: I had him on the show when he was at Western,
Speaker 2: and he went on all kinds of other radio shows
Speaker 2: I'm sure did some TV stuff I believe to promote,
Speaker 2: you know, really basically saying hey, once you guys, come
Speaker 2: check out a game at Western Kentucky a loto WKU alum. Right.
Speaker 2: And then when he started doing it at Purdue, you know,
Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a stretch. But then again,
Speaker 2: like it's the Broms, you know, well, like Purdue wasn't
Speaker 2: a threat to us. Whenever Jeff got the job, I
Speaker 2: wanted to see Perdue do well. And then you started realizing, Okay,
Speaker 2: these guys are are going up against each other for recruits,
Speaker 2: and Louisvill was losing recruits to Bobby at the end.
Speaker 2: So I say all that to say Tom hated that
Speaker 2: Tom would I mean, I never got the talking too,
Speaker 2: because I think shortly after this thing happened, it ended
Speaker 2: badly for Tom and for Rick with the whole FBI thing.
Speaker 2: But I had the Broms squad in studio to just
Speaker 2: do an interview. And you know, obviously they're representing the
Speaker 2: school that they work for, and that's Purdue. And you know,
Speaker 2: at the time, we were cards Radio and it had
Speaker 2: been made clear to my bosses that that was a
Speaker 2: no no, like I made a mistake and that you know,
Speaker 2: I needed to be I guess, you know, waiting for
Speaker 2: some kind of a punishment or some kind of a
Speaker 2: talking to because that kind of stuff happened. And I
Speaker 2: always defend Tom in a way because I think the
Speaker 2: reason he was like that about like media stuff is
Speaker 2: because he cared so much and he he really did
Speaker 2: build Louisville's athletic department to what it is not to
Speaker 2: say that, you know, others weren't a big factor in
Speaker 2: that success. They were, but like Tom Jurich really changed
Speaker 2: everything about Louisville athletics from top to bottom. Other than basketball,
Speaker 2: of course, which is already well established. But hey, he
Speaker 2: brought Rick Patino in, and I'm not sure where basketball
Speaker 2: would be if that higher wasn't made at that time.
Speaker 2: So Tom did, in fact think you were insulting him,
Speaker 2: and he was taking it personal if you said anything
Speaker 2: about the programs, which is not how you should operate
Speaker 2: in that position in my opinion. But I always give
Speaker 2: him the benefit of doubt because I think he cared
Speaker 2: that much and he he's very loyal to the people
Speaker 2: that are loyal to him. And if you know, I'm
Speaker 2: bringing in a coach to talk about Purdue, he he
Speaker 2: thinks that's you know, that's a no no. And to
Speaker 2: be fair, we were you know, we were broadcast partners
Speaker 2: at that time, so you know, I think that was
Speaker 2: just Tom being Tom. But there's also there's it's always
Speaker 2: been in my mind that like he was doing that
Speaker 2: because he didn't want Bram around any you know, he
Speaker 2: just it didn't end well between those two. So I'll
Speaker 2: never We'll never know, and it's not relevant. But this
Speaker 2: question has come up before, and that is that if
Speaker 2: Jurich never got fired, would would Braun be the coach here?
Speaker 2: And we'll never know, like it's just speculation, but I
Speaker 2: think there would have needed to be you know, again,
Speaker 2: I'm just I have no clue, but my gut would
Speaker 2: tell me that if that was to ever happen and
Speaker 2: it was Tom trying to bring him back, there would
Speaker 2: have needed to be you know, a good sit down
Speaker 2: for them to you know, probably air it out, probably
Speaker 2: do a lot of yelling. That would be my guess. Man.
Speaker 2: Just just looking back on all this stuff has really
Speaker 2: reminded me how long I've been doing this. Not to
Speaker 2: say I'm some you know, old veteran, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: like some of the stuff that I'm referring to, there
Speaker 2: are people listening in their twenties, even late twenties that
Speaker 2: like they don't remember that because they were in elementary
Speaker 2: school or something. I mean, am I an og? John?
Speaker 2: I think I might be?
Speaker 3: You might be the last remaining og.
Speaker 2: Oh There's no There's plenty out there that are a
Speaker 2: lot older than me, and they remember a lot more
Speaker 2: than I said.
Speaker 3: What I mean by that is like the last like
Speaker 3: you're the younger side of the Oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, that could be it. Maybe that's maybe
Speaker 2: that's where I stand when it comes to all of us,
Speaker 2: you know hanks that you know are fortunate to be
Speaker 2: able to have a platform to yap about sports, although
Speaker 2: you know it used to be really really like frowned
Speaker 2: upon to to, you know, to I say, like work
Speaker 2: for al but now you can create your own like
Speaker 2: you can do your own thing now again, you got
Speaker 2: to be pretty good. You gotta be entertaining, you gotta
Speaker 2: have a following. But you know, like there are people
Speaker 2: who launch their own shows on YouTube or just a
Speaker 2: podcast whatever, and they end up taking off and having
Speaker 2: a lot of success, like the way you can. You
Speaker 2: don't need a large corporation a media entity to give
Speaker 2: you a platform. I mean, you don't need that now
Speaker 2: like you used to. That still is a big deal,
Speaker 2: and I'm very appreciative of what I have here. But
Speaker 2: you know, covering a team as a fan, a guy
Speaker 2: who's clearly not gonna hide that he's a fan years ago,
Speaker 2: like you would you know, the Capitol Jays, they thought,
Speaker 2: you know, you know they fanboys.
Speaker 3: They still do that, do they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, certain places used to work with one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, like what I don't understand is like who
Speaker 2: you fooling? Like if you are somebody that has shows
Speaker 2: this as your career and it's how you make ends meet. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe there's a part of it you realize, Hey, it's
Speaker 2: actually not you know, it's pretty fun and it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's better than you know, working in a factory or
Speaker 2: doing manual labor like fair enough, But like, I just
Speaker 2: can't imagine someone out there who would never be doing
Speaker 2: what they're doing if they were a fan. But yet
Speaker 2: they present themselves. I mean, I don't I'm just doing
Speaker 2: my job. I don't care who wins. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not not like I'll have a dog in the fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean like, I mean what, like then
Speaker 2: why are you like? They don'most like what do you do?
Speaker 2: I would just look at you like, dude, that's a
Speaker 2: weird hobby to dedicate your you know, your entire livelihood
Speaker 2: to covering a team that you don't care if they
Speaker 2: win or lose. What like, you know, So doing it
Speaker 2: has helped me at times deal with losses because you know,
Speaker 2: I honestly being able to yap about it on the
Speaker 2: radio has been therapeutic for me. I wouldn't survive Kenny
Speaker 2: Paynair without that. That, So you know, I'm I've always
Speaker 2: never made it. I've never made it a secret that, like,
Speaker 2: I'm a big Louisville fan, and I maybe I'm in
Speaker 2: my own world here thinking that I can be a
Speaker 2: fan and still be objective. I think I can. But
Speaker 2: you know, do you ever ask this real quick?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Do you think the first basketball postgame show is going
Speaker 3: to feel weird but in a good way? Because of
Speaker 3: what the basketball postgame shows have been for the last
Speaker 3: two years?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it'll be weird. And you gotta keep in mind,
Speaker 2: I didn't even get a chance to direct to immediate
Speaker 2: react to the games we saw in the Bahamas, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it'll I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: be on cloud nine because of you know, two main reasons.
Speaker 2: One because we are going to be just clearly a
Speaker 2: lot better off than we were. But that's not really
Speaker 2: the bar. I mean, you want to be a lot
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to be a top tier program,
Speaker 2: and you can be. But like, we're gonna be beating
Speaker 2: teams that we used to beat fifteen, ten, even five
Speaker 2: years ago, and you wouldn't care. And now we're gonna
Speaker 2: be like, hell, yeah that was awesome. We're gonna know
Speaker 2: what it is and we're gonna probably have to remind ourselves,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, forgot what this is, Like, this is what
Speaker 2: we're supposed to do. But like when you've gone through
Speaker 2: what little Basketball has gone through the last couple of years, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're we may people may be driving through the region
Speaker 2: here popping on sports talks seven to ninety after Louisville
Speaker 2: takes down the Morehead State and you know they don't
Speaker 2: They're not from here, and they're listening and they're like, wow,
Speaker 2: did somebody just win the national champ This fan base
Speaker 2: is fired up, Like I'm exaggerating, but like no, and
Speaker 2: I'm here for it because it was just a big
Speaker 2: sad sadness. It was just sad the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited. And you know, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey is going to have success. I mean, how
Speaker 2: successfully is in year one? That remains to be seen.
Speaker 2: But you know, to answer your question, John, I think
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Speaker 2: those vibes for quite some time. All right, great vibes
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Speaker 2: come back and wrap it up on the other side
Speaker 2: right here on Sports Talk seven ninety we've mentioned it
Speaker 2: many times that because we just are in caves throughout this,
Speaker 2: you know, three and a half roughly three out have
Speaker 2: to four hour window of the day, we don't really
Speaker 2: know what the weather is doing. But it sounds like
Speaker 2: we had a lot of storms. They canceled my son's
Speaker 2: football practice, so you know, I guess we needed the rain.
Speaker 2: It's a really old person thing to say, but a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of neighbor a lot of my neighbors.
Speaker 2: They had some some uh some orange looking grass.
Speaker 3: I'm sure my grass for the first time and over
Speaker 3: a month early a few days ago.
Speaker 2: And it was probably. I mean, was it probably not
Speaker 2: in good shape as far as health, but it probably
Speaker 2: was nice to not have to cut.
Speaker 3: It for that long, right it was because it was
Speaker 3: so hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't We didn't get a whole lot of rain.
Speaker 2: So yeah, real quick on the weather, it looks like
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some rain coming in during the Louder
Speaker 2: than Life music festival. And I've heard like four different
Speaker 2: people say yeah, I'm not really sure they care, meaning
Speaker 2: like the people that go like that's insulting. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe they will tough it out more so than
Speaker 2: somebody going to some lame music festival, but like I
Speaker 2: just think it's weird. They're like, oh yeah, nobody cares.
Speaker 2: It's I mean again, they'll probably have fun with it,
Speaker 2: because that seems to be the nature of a lot
Speaker 2: of people who go to that festival rain. It'll be
Speaker 2: they're gonna make it.
Speaker 3: Work because the last time there was a bunch of storms,
Speaker 3: which is back like during the time of the festival,
Speaker 3: it got canceled back when they were the Champions Park.
Speaker 3: But that I think the drainage system there is a
Speaker 3: whole lot worse than what they've got at the Expo Center.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ended up being a because.
Speaker 3: Bourbon and Beyond the weekend before got canceled too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. They were both at the same place, right,
Speaker 2: they're both champion champions parks where it used to be
Speaker 2: I mean again where they ended up going and putting
Speaker 2: it now again the what is it called the Highlands Ground,
Speaker 2: Highland the Highland Festival Ground, Highland Festival Ground. Why I
Speaker 2: keep saying Highland Ground? I mean, you know, to me,
Speaker 2: it's just you know, a big field next to the fairgrounds.
Speaker 2: But clearly they have enough space there and it's it's
Speaker 2: worked out well. I mean, they had a record crowd
Speaker 2: here at Bourbon and Beyond and I think there'll be
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: Of a lot of might be some mud sling in
Speaker 3: this weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know they're gonna embrace the mud, right,
Speaker 2: That's just that's I'll give you a full report. I
Speaker 2: can't wait. All right, everybody had a good night. We're
Speaker 2: back at it tomorrow right here, hopefully. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: have Jerry duty