Speaker 1: Gaff.
Speaker 2: I'm six forty, It's Friday. Thank goodness alive, everybody. iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: App is later with Mo Kelly and goodness. It's unfortunate
Speaker 2: I have to start with this, but I feel compelled
Speaker 2: to start with this because it's been the talker the
Speaker 2: story of the day, Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa,
Speaker 2: and I want to make sure I acknowledge her by name.
Speaker 2: Saw far too many news reports where it was just
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman and his wife, as if she weren't a
Speaker 2: person of equal stature and standing in this story.
Speaker 1: But Gene Hackman and Betsy Aracaa.
Speaker 2: I remember how I said, Look, I'm going to wait.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out what happened.
Speaker 2: There would be an autopsy, there would be a toxicology,
Speaker 2: and we still haven't gotten the toxicology report yet, but
Speaker 2: we would get some of these answers, and far too
Speaker 2: many people, I mean actual commentators, television personalities. Of course,
Speaker 2: idiots on social media could not wait to try to
Speaker 2: fill in all the blanks with some sort of conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory because they had moved to New Mexico or something
Speaker 2: like they were hiding from someone who had to been
Speaker 2: a hit man or they died from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Speaker 1: But you know they want it was actually a hit.
Speaker 2: They just wanted to look like that, because why did
Speaker 2: one dog die and the other dogs? You hurt all
Speaker 2: of them. You saw those, You probably read some of those.
Speaker 2: In fact, you probably wrote some of those. And I
Speaker 2: was just saying, there's no need to rush, speculate and
Speaker 2: try to fill in the blanks ourselves.
Speaker 1: That's why we have, you know, medical examiners.
Speaker 2: They were going to give us the answers or at
Speaker 2: least some approximation, and they did just that. And if
Speaker 2: you don't know, they both died of quote unquote natural causes.
Speaker 2: Betsy Arakawa died of hantivirus from affectant rodent or rodent droppings.
Speaker 2: If you know anything about the hantavirus and gene. Hackman
Speaker 2: had some sort of heart disease heart related event which
Speaker 2: led to his death, and he also had contributing factors
Speaker 2: of Alzheimer's. I'm not a physician, but that's basically the story.
Speaker 2: He might have heard Mark Ronner reporting on it. He
Speaker 2: basically died of being ninety five years old. Imagine that.
Speaker 2: Imagine that most of us will not get to see
Speaker 2: ninety five.
Speaker 1: That's a good long run. It is a good long run.
Speaker 2: But it's a terribly, terribly a sad story as far
Speaker 2: as how this came to an end. And I think
Speaker 2: about Gene Hackman from what I know now as far
Speaker 2: as the advanced Alzheimer's and how his wife from what
Speaker 2: we know that'si Arakawa preceded him in death. I wonder
Speaker 2: what was the last six or seven days of Gene
Speaker 2: Hackman's life like, was he aware that his wife had passed?
Speaker 2: Was he completely in control of his faculties? Did did
Speaker 2: he dive from malnutrition as well? You know, was he
Speaker 2: able to feed himself because he obviously wasn't communicating with
Speaker 2: the outside world.
Speaker 3: It's you know, we need somebody from law enforcement or
Speaker 3: the family to fill in those gaps in part to
Speaker 3: stop what you've been talking about, which is just the
Speaker 3: irresponsible conjecture from numbskulls. And I think that makes the
Speaker 3: story worse, the irresponsible conjecture from the numb school.
Speaker 1: Thank you, okay.
Speaker 3: Say it.
Speaker 2: Because you deserve better. They deserve better. And I think
Speaker 2: we as a civil society should do better.
Speaker 1: We didn't.
Speaker 2: We live in this world where everything we don't he'd
Speaker 2: immediately have all the answers to or if we don't
Speaker 2: immediately know the results of an election, or if not
Speaker 2: everything is explained to us immediately, there must be some
Speaker 2: sort of conspiracy. There must be some sort of subterfuge,
Speaker 2: some sort of skull duggery or something, and we just
Speaker 2: want to make ourselves feel better as if only I
Speaker 2: know the story. Ah No, it's not what the media
Speaker 2: is telling us. We know what happened. Someone murdered them.
Speaker 2: It didn't have to end the story, at least as
Speaker 2: far as how we told it. It didn't have to
Speaker 2: end that way. Gene Hackman deserve better. That's the Arakawa
Speaker 2: deserve better, and we should know better and do better
Speaker 2: going forward. It was a story then, and we made
Speaker 2: it worse. We could have just waited until we got
Speaker 2: some solid reporting. First. The first report we remember is like, no,
Speaker 2: nothing suspicious, natural causes, and then people didn't believe that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: probably by first look, if you just find two people
Speaker 2: and then through more investigation there was a degree of
Speaker 2: suspicion attached and a more thorough investigation, then we get
Speaker 2: the autopsy results. In fact, no, we got the information
Speaker 2: from the from the gas company and said no, no, no,
Speaker 2: there was no gas leak, so it was not carbon
Speaker 2: monoxide poisoning. As time passed, we got more and more information,
Speaker 2: we got closer and closer to the truth.
Speaker 1: But some people don't want the truth.
Speaker 2: Some people just want to irresponsibly speculate and provide conjecture,
Speaker 2: and so I think it makes it worse than it
Speaker 2: actually is.
Speaker 1: And there are some, because we're so conspiratorial.
Speaker 2: Who won't accept that this is the actual truth because
Speaker 2: it does not job with what they.
Speaker 1: Have in their mind already.
Speaker 2: No matter, no amount of facts, will make any difference,
Speaker 2: No facts will matter to those individuals. You know who
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. You probably are friends with them, you
Speaker 2: might be related to them. Hell, you might be one
Speaker 2: of them. And that's why I think we, in a
Speaker 2: societal sense, we have failed one another because we lose
Speaker 2: sight of our humanity. We lose sight of the fact
Speaker 2: that Gene Hackman, although he was a two time Academy
Speaker 2: Award winner, was someone's father, obviously someone's husband, someone's relative.
Speaker 2: And we lose sight of the fact that all that
Speaker 2: rampant speculation impacts the surviving members of the family.
Speaker 1: We forget that we shouldn't forget it, but we obviously do,
Speaker 1: and some people don't even care. When I was looking
Speaker 1: at just the general tenor of the commentary surrounding Gene
Speaker 1: Hackman and Betsy Aracaba, it was flagrantly, flagrantly just disregarding
Speaker 1: good common sense and decency. Well, what's the wildest thing
Speaker 1: you read?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: As a hit man?
Speaker 3: Of course, yes, why wouldn't you send a hit man
Speaker 3: out to take care of somebody who's ninety five? I'm
Speaker 3: not kidding. I saw that a few times. Yeah, a
Speaker 3: hit man from Mexico. And they kept stressing Mexico and
Speaker 3: it's like, no, people, it was New Mexico. And I
Speaker 3: don't know why you're making the stretch all the way
Speaker 3: to Mexico as if that by itself is tantamount for assassination.
Speaker 2: Because it's mixed in with our political ideology. New Mexico
Speaker 2: borders Mexico, so therefore it must have been some illegal immigrant.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not sitting their best.
Speaker 2: That's the way I read that seriously, because it's not
Speaker 2: like Gene Hackman lived as far as I know, some
Speaker 2: life where people were searching, everyone knew where he was.
Speaker 3: It was like he was hiding. He just removed himself
Speaker 3: from public. They're sending people to kill our elderly actress.
Speaker 3: This is unacceptable. That's how ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Hey, it gotten because people thought that they didn't immediately
Speaker 2: have all the answers given to them, that someone must
Speaker 2: have been hiding the truth.
Speaker 3: Well, we do that in so many areas of our life,
Speaker 3: and I'm not even going to list them because I
Speaker 3: don't want the headache of complaints. But this whole incident
Speaker 3: that's been dragging on for days. I've written many many
Speaker 3: obituaries in my journalism career, and you take extra care
Speaker 3: with those because it's often the last word on somebody,
Speaker 3: and you never want to make a mistake so much
Speaker 3: as a typo in the name, anything like that. You
Speaker 3: take extraordinary care with thebituaries because also their families feelings
Speaker 3: are at stake. Their family's going to read every word
Speaker 3: you write, and in this case, they're going to hear
Speaker 3: every word that's said as well. And what kind of
Speaker 3: monster would put something intentionally out there that they don't
Speaker 3: know for sure to be true. That's who we are now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's right. It's later with mo Kelly kfi
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Speaker 3: And there's a new Orange County ninety one freeway project
Speaker 3: which broke ground today. Got to tell you about. It's
Speaker 3: going to take like forever. It's never gonna get done,
Speaker 3: the traffic's not going to get any better. Or I
Speaker 3: just did the whole story. Okay, Well we'll talk about
Speaker 3: it more when we come back.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: If you have lived in southern California long enough, you
Speaker 2: have seen the progression and evolution of our freeway system.
Speaker 2: If you're over the age of I don't know, forty
Speaker 2: five or so, you may remember how long it took
Speaker 2: to get the one oh five Freeway actually built. It
Speaker 2: took forever to day, like finished, maybe a decade after
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be done. If you remember, like
Speaker 2: the early nineteen nineties, all the work they were doing
Speaker 2: on the five Freeway going towards south towards Orange County,
Speaker 2: and it seemed like they were doing work on the
Speaker 2: five for freakin' ever for a good decade.
Speaker 1: There was always construction.
Speaker 2: There was always something slowing down the flow of traffic
Speaker 2: on the five Freeway. You might remember the expansion project
Speaker 2: of the four or five freeway going to the.
Speaker 1: Valley over the hill.
Speaker 2: As they say that took forever, and they were all
Speaker 2: done in the hopes of alleviating traffic. And I'm quite
Speaker 2: sure all of us would agree traffic is still as
Speaker 2: horrible as ever. It took me two hours to drive
Speaker 2: twenty two miles today, two hours, no exaggeration. And I've
Speaker 2: been here for all of those expansion projects, widening of
Speaker 2: the freeways, insertion of the high occupancy vehicle lanes, called
Speaker 2: them the diamond lanes back in the day. None of
Speaker 2: it has helped. That's why I'm a little bit more
Speaker 2: cynical than most. When I come across a story about
Speaker 2: some sort of freeway improvement project which is going to
Speaker 2: help alleviate traffic, I just kind of just start just
Speaker 2: shaking in anger, because I don't know if it's going
Speaker 2: to turn out any differently, But supposedly for efforts to
Speaker 2: improve driver safety and relieve congestion, that's how it's being builled.
Speaker 2: On the ninety one Freeway in Orange County, a five year,
Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy nine million dollar project is underway,
Speaker 2: and I'm not here to talk about the money spent. Look,
Speaker 2: someone's getting paid, someone has a job. Fine, I'm just
Speaker 2: saying I know what the history was when it comes
Speaker 2: to these expansion projects. The Orange County Transportation Authority and
Speaker 2: partnership with Caltrans broke ground on the SR ninety one
Speaker 2: improvement project today and the project is supposed supposed to
Speaker 2: take place in three Faise Jesus along a five mile
Speaker 2: stretch between SR.
Speaker 1: Fifty seven and.
Speaker 2: A fifty five at Lakeview Avenue, with a completion target
Speaker 2: date of twenty thirty. Remember what I was saying about
Speaker 2: the one oh five freeway, It's probably not going to
Speaker 2: be finished by twenty thirty.
Speaker 1: But let's say it's finished by twenty thirty five. All right, how.
Speaker 2: Much is it really going to change the flow of traffic?
Speaker 2: And I know you got to do something. But we've
Speaker 2: talked long and hard about the people who were supposedly
Speaker 2: leaving California because California is just so horrible. Thousands and
Speaker 2: thousands of people are leaving. And remember what I said,
Speaker 2: I said, thank you, thank goodness. The more people that left,
Speaker 2: hopefully the better the traffic. Because for me, it was
Speaker 2: never political it was all about my commute. I'm selfish
Speaker 2: like that. I know, with fewer people on the road,
Speaker 2: fewer people in the state means fewer people on the road,
Speaker 2: fewer runners that are probably given out everybody with.
Speaker 3: We're not doing that. That's not what those are. What
Speaker 3: those already have a number of names. We don't need
Speaker 3: to call them by my name. You actually you should.
Speaker 3: I think you ought to get that trademarked.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: There must be some more fruitful way to attack this problem.
Speaker 3: You're stuck with it now. People are just gonna think
Speaker 3: of the bird and Mark Ronner. Thank God, nobody's listening. Yeah,
Speaker 3: no one's listening.
Speaker 2: But improvements include the reconstruction of on ramps and off ramps,
Speaker 2: the addition of a regular east bound lane for a
Speaker 2: portion of the project, and interchange improvements to lessen the
Speaker 2: need for drivers to merge and weave. Okay, I hope so,
Speaker 2: but it's only five miles and I've driven that portion
Speaker 2: of the ninety one for the past thirty years. At
Speaker 2: least I've been driving for forty years and probably yeah,
Speaker 2: closer to forty years, so I know that section of
Speaker 2: the freeway real well. Spent a lot of time in
Speaker 2: the Fullerton area, not too far from there. I don't
Speaker 2: know how much is going to make anything better. I
Speaker 2: personally think this is just me. If we put more
Speaker 2: effort and emphasis into our railway system and that goes
Speaker 2: out beyond just La Metro, that's more like Metrolink going
Speaker 2: out that way, that would be more of a viable alternative.
Speaker 2: But we're so stuck in our cars and it's almost
Speaker 2: impossible to think of life outside of our cars. I
Speaker 2: wish people could see other cities, and I know LA
Speaker 2: is so expansive, it is so spread out. The whole
Speaker 2: idea of not being in a car for most people,
Speaker 2: I get it. It's not feasible, and it's not safe
Speaker 2: too either, But that's a whole other discussion.
Speaker 1: But here's another freeway project.
Speaker 2: I'm quite sure it's well intentioned, I'm quite sure it's
Speaker 2: even necessary, and I'm quite sure it probably will improve
Speaker 2: the flow of traffic at that five mile portion for
Speaker 2: a lot of people. But I don't know if we
Speaker 2: will ever be able to get ahead of the traffic
Speaker 2: issue here in southern California. And to only really understand it,
Speaker 2: you had to have lived through it and seen it.
Speaker 2: Now if you come like Mark Ronner, if you come
Speaker 2: from another state, it's just bad traffic. But if you
Speaker 2: grew up here and you've lived here your whole life,
Speaker 2: you've seen how it has gotten progressively worse by decade.
Speaker 2: It used to be the one ten Freeway was never
Speaker 2: all that crowded, and my first job was downtown. I
Speaker 2: think it was like eighth and Hill Street when I
Speaker 2: was working for the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra. So this
Speaker 2: is the early nineties. It was a straight, easy stretch
Speaker 2: straight downtown didn't have any problem. And that was before
Speaker 2: they had that fast track lane. That was before they
Speaker 2: had the real high occupancy vehicle lane.
Speaker 1: It was only if they did.
Speaker 2: It was only one lane, so they weren't trying to
Speaker 2: cram everybody over to the right in those lanes, but
Speaker 2: it was easy to do.
Speaker 1: Now the one ten Freeway is just horrible.
Speaker 2: I can't speak for Stefan, but for me, it only
Speaker 2: opens up if you're going south after you get past Slawson.
Speaker 2: Got to get past Slawson and then it'll start to
Speaker 2: open up a bit when you're just north of the
Speaker 2: Englewood area, And if you're going north, it's just bad
Speaker 2: because you're going towards downtown.
Speaker 1: You know they can. And part of the reason, and
Speaker 1: here's how it's connected.
Speaker 2: Part of the reason why it's so bad is because
Speaker 2: they've put in those fast track lanes that only four
Speaker 2: cars use, five if you include Stephan because he uses them.
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong, Stephan. Not a lot of people
Speaker 2: use the fast track lays. You're not wrong about that
Speaker 2: at all. And then all the rest of us, regular people,
Speaker 2: we're in the regular lanes, just stuck.
Speaker 1: I think it's four lanes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's two lanes, but the regular lanes fo yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and the fast track is two lanes, but they're two
Speaker 2: huge lanes. I say that to say, if you took
Speaker 2: out the fast track lanes, and I know that's about money,
Speaker 2: and you just had six lanes of people just driving.
Speaker 1: It would be better for everyone because technically, I think
Speaker 1: that used to be the diamond lane. Yes it was,
Speaker 1: it was, and now it's fast tracked.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's double the width, yeah, because there was
Speaker 2: only one lane for the diamond lane, and you could
Speaker 2: conceivably have six lanes going in both directions at that
Speaker 2: point on the one ten, and that probably would alleviate
Speaker 2: the traffic problem at least on the one ten. And
Speaker 2: I say that because I know they have the fast
Speaker 2: track lanes in Orange County on the ninety one right
Speaker 2: around that point as well. How do I know that
Speaker 2: because I accidentally got in one of those lanes one
Speaker 2: time and they have these these like vertical dividers. You
Speaker 2: can't drive over them. You know, you're literally stuck in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're stuck in there. So and I accidentally took the
Speaker 2: wrong and and they'll scan you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got the ticket later on.
Speaker 2: My point is if we did the things which made
Speaker 2: more sense as opposed to always trying to make a
Speaker 2: profit on everything, I believe the traffic would be less
Speaker 2: of an issue. If we had six free flowing lanes
Speaker 2: in each direction, which they can in most portions of
Speaker 2: these freeways where they have fast track, it would not
Speaker 2: be as bad.
Speaker 3: I want to know, if Fush's secret, what do you
Speaker 3: got a blow up dollar a mannekin to put in
Speaker 3: your passenger seat?
Speaker 1: Are you know you can do it with fast track?
Speaker 1: Tell them, oh, oh fast track, Yeah you can do it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's that's why they made fast track, because you don't
Speaker 2: have to have someone in the car with you.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm too cheap for whatever that costs. No,
Speaker 1: and I'm too cheap.
Speaker 2: Also, my problem was it doesn't go pass downtown. If
Speaker 2: they had fast track which went through downtown, I would
Speaker 2: to the five. Just get me to the five from
Speaker 2: the one ten. I would pay big money for that.
Speaker 2: But it stops at USC and you're still a good
Speaker 2: five or six miles from downtown.
Speaker 1: Right at the game. Yeah, right at the Gale One Center.
Speaker 3: Now do trains Anybody who has ever been to Europe
Speaker 3: and then sees LA's traffic, thank you. Well, we'll just
Speaker 3: be insane with rage, like why can't we have what
Speaker 3: they have?
Speaker 2: Because they plan their infrastructure and then they put money
Speaker 2: into their infrastructure.
Speaker 3: And they don't have lobbyists buying off Congress with money
Speaker 3: from fossil fuel.
Speaker 1: That's true too, that's true. I'll allow that, will you?
Speaker 2: Yes later with mo Kelly Cay if I am six
Speaker 2: forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Yes, two hours
Speaker 2: to get in today, twenty two miles two hours.
Speaker 3: Like two freaking hours, one direction. I can tell you
Speaker 3: use the time to meditate. I did, no, seriously, I did.
Speaker 2: That's why I usually turn off the radio, and I
Speaker 2: just try to stay in a calm state in my thoughts,
Speaker 2: maybe return some phone calls. That's a great time too,
Speaker 2: I got two hours to kill Why not. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you're giving off a real sedate vibe right now. It
Speaker 2: sounds almost like he was being sarcastic. Never Never, when
Speaker 2: we come back, we got it. Remind you it is
Speaker 2: daylight saving time change weekend or something like that on Sunday. Yes,
Speaker 2: the days are going to get longer, We're going to
Speaker 2: have more sunlight, and I'll be in a much better mood, Mark,
Speaker 2: much better mood. And also you notice the traffic will
Speaker 2: get better because of daylight saving Is that how that works?
Speaker 2: Or at least depending on the time that you leave work.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you another side. I'll tell you on the side.
Speaker 2: Got some good news for you. We know the bars
Speaker 2: are closing an hour earlier. This is not that Mark, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: But I'm actually happy about this particular Friday because that
Speaker 2: means the Sunday go back to daylight saving time. I
Speaker 2: know it sounds kind of weird, but I actually look
Speaker 2: forward to it in the way that I dread when
Speaker 2: daylight Saving Time is over and we go back to
Speaker 2: standard time. I do know, going back to last SEC
Speaker 2: when I was talking with Mark Ronner about why it
Speaker 2: impacts traffic, and this is not aecdotal I don't have
Speaker 2: any data to prove this, but I do notice a
Speaker 2: considerable difference. We were talking about traffic during daylight saving time,
Speaker 2: since we have more sunlight or i'll say a you know,
Speaker 2: shifting degree of sunlight.
Speaker 1: I find that people tend.
Speaker 2: To spread out the time in which they're going home.
Speaker 2: They will stay at the office a little bit later,
Speaker 2: and the whole five to six o'clock PM crunch is
Speaker 2: not as as difficult to manage, and because people will
Speaker 2: stay later at work because why the sun's out. But
Speaker 2: when the sun is down and it's dark at four
Speaker 2: point thirty reasonable people's like, oh.
Speaker 1: My day's over.
Speaker 2: So you get on the road at around four thirty
Speaker 2: five o'clock, it's absolutely hell.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to go home at the same time.
Speaker 2: And also during daylight saving time, you get closer to
Speaker 2: spring break and also summer break, so there are fewer
Speaker 2: cars than into the summers.
Speaker 1: It's just all the way around.
Speaker 2: I don't have to wake up and it's pitch black
Speaker 2: dark at seven thirty in the morning. Look, stop laughing, Stefan.
Speaker 2: If you're not gonna give me a rim shot, I
Speaker 2: wish you could see him. He's eating food that the
Speaker 2: Tuola got for the team tonight, Thank you very much,
Speaker 2: Tuala quietly, and he's like listening to the show.
Speaker 3: He's not in the show. He's just as just a listener. Well,
Speaker 3: he's got his priority. It's like, wow, this is my show, and.
Speaker 2: He's gonna laugh at my jokes.
Speaker 1: And see it's not supposed to be like that.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be at the ready because I might
Speaker 2: say something very funny at any moment.
Speaker 1: Hushmark, Yeah, you want to be ready for that.
Speaker 3: Be on a hair trigger for mo being funny.
Speaker 2: Oh here we go, Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: But what the point is?
Speaker 3: That's why I do look forward to daylight saving time,
Speaker 3: just more slight. I'm in a much more cheery mood.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't like the winter. I don't like
Speaker 3: the cold, I don't like the darkness. It's all good
Speaker 3: starting Sunday. I admire your adherence to daylight saving time
Speaker 3: with no s on the end of it.
Speaker 1: That is a remnant of Chris Little. That's exactly right.
Speaker 3: Now. There is some dangers with this time change. It's
Speaker 3: not all good moment what are you talking about? There
Speaker 3: are some mental things that we have to deal with
Speaker 3: that if we are not ready. All of that traffic
Speaker 3: and all of the bad driving and all that, it
Speaker 3: just compounds because of the time change. People's rhythm is
Speaker 3: thrown off. Sometimes people aren't getting as much sleep because
Speaker 3: they're prepared for getting up earlier. So it's just everything
Speaker 3: is bad and mentally. This is This is a proven
Speaker 3: scientific facts. Many studies have gone into proving that just
Speaker 3: the time changing alone is bad. But comenday we could
Speaker 3: be in for some more accidents.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll be fine, I'll be fine, it won't be
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: I don't drive at the same time as all these
Speaker 2: other hooligans and hulum sin ernat out there. I don't don't.
Speaker 2: I usually get on the road at like two o'clock
Speaker 2: or something. That's what I get to avoid more of you.
Speaker 2: I'm not in that morning crush of traffic, and I'm
Speaker 2: not in that evening crush of traffic. It's worse now
Speaker 2: because it's daylight saving time. What I dealt with today,
Speaker 2: I left the house a little too late. I got
Speaker 2: on the road at like three point fifteen, and that's
Speaker 2: the kiss of death. Can't do that because that means
Speaker 2: I'm hitting downtown. It took me an hour to go
Speaker 2: ten miles to downtown, and I looked at my clock.
Speaker 2: It was four o'clock and I was just downtown. I
Speaker 2: left a little bit after three, and by then it's
Speaker 2: way too late because people are actually leaving more like
Speaker 2: if you got to work at seven am, you're probably
Speaker 2: leaving around four.
Speaker 3: I think it's the change that screws most people up.
Speaker 3: Just pick a thing, pick one, and let's stick with it,
Speaker 3: because it's the going back and forth that requires like
Speaker 3: a week of adjustment.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I wish we would just stay at daylight saving time
Speaker 2: the whole time. I would not want to be standard time,
Speaker 2: but I would like to minimize the amount of darkness.
Speaker 1: That's just me. That's just me. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Just pay one because we were not an agricultural farming
Speaker 3: society like we were when this started.
Speaker 2: But we do have a huge agriculture industry in California.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but back I would say a generation or two
Speaker 3: before you and I, the majority of Americans belonged to
Speaker 3: farming families in one way or another, and now it's
Speaker 3: a sliver of that.
Speaker 2: What year is this you're talking about? Because you're older
Speaker 2: than me, I don't know if we're in the same jo.
Speaker 2: You listen up, Grandpa. You don't want to get into this.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, the like the fifties and earlier.
Speaker 2: I wasn't alive then, so I don't know. Well, neither
Speaker 2: was I.
Speaker 1: Oh you were talking like you knew something. You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: you must have been born.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been exposed to mass media. Is that okay?
Speaker 3: Oh you did your research. I've seen mystery signs, theater
Speaker 3: shorts on truck farming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got me beat on that one. Okay.
Speaker 2: But I'm good with staying with daylight saving time. I
Speaker 2: really am year round. If they kill it and get
Speaker 2: rid of it, will probably be just stay time year round.
Speaker 2: And there's some states like Arizona they're just standard time
Speaker 2: year round.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't want it. I would want daylight saving time.
Speaker 2: That would be preferable for me if I had a
Speaker 2: vote in this, which I don't.
Speaker 1: If I had a vote. I don't care about you
Speaker 1: or your life.
Speaker 3: There's also scientific research that shows that waking up early
Speaker 3: is detrimental to people's health. And I'm not making that
Speaker 3: up just because I'm lazy. No, it's like it's a
Speaker 3: shock to the system. Yeah, no, I know that.
Speaker 2: And I've argue that point with my wife because she
Speaker 2: is a morning person, and she would try to tell me, Hey,
Speaker 2: you just haven't had the right job.
Speaker 1: If you had the.
Speaker 2: Job, you'll eventually become a morning person. No, I won't
Speaker 2: that will never become a morning person.
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 2: My first radio job was Jim Rome and his show
Speaker 2: was on from nine am to noon. We had to
Speaker 2: be in the office between six thirty and seven am
Speaker 2: with a commute before that. All right, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I will never be a morning person.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't last a week.
Speaker 3: No. Being the morning person sucks.
Speaker 2: And you have to get up before dawn every morning,
Speaker 2: every morning, and it's not cool. It's really really not
Speaker 2: cool at all. What is a typical morning for you?
Speaker 3: I have all the fifty eleven alarms that have to
Speaker 3: keep me up. I have my six am alarm, then
Speaker 3: I have a six fifteen, a six thirty, a six
Speaker 3: forty five or seven and seven fifteen and so forth.
Speaker 3: And each of these fifteen minute increments is just in
Speaker 3: case I stopped for a minute and sit down and
Speaker 3: doze off. So it's constantly keep me going because I
Speaker 3: gotta get up, got to make sure my daughter's get ready.
Speaker 3: I got to make sure that my son is not
Speaker 3: giving me. Yeah, I'm up. And then twenty minutes later
Speaker 3: I go in and he's still head under the cover.
Speaker 3: That's a lot, but that's only after leaving here like
Speaker 3: two of the morning.
Speaker 2: You couldn't pay me to do Bill Handle's show. You
Speaker 2: could not pay me. There's not enough money. You never
Speaker 2: had to fill in for him. Oh I have many times, Yeah,
Speaker 2: many times. And it was absolute hell. Because I'm getting
Speaker 2: up at three point thirty four. I'm getting on the
Speaker 2: road by four fifteen. I don't mess around. I don't
Speaker 2: have a snooze alarm or anything like that. When my
Speaker 2: alarm goes off, it's a conversation. I have my clock.
Speaker 2: My clock has already told me it's time to get up.
Speaker 2: You cannot sleep anymore. You don't have any snooze get up.
Speaker 2: When the alarm goes off, it's time to move I usually,
Speaker 2: like I'm my own parent, I put my clothes out
Speaker 2: for the next morning the night before, because when I'm
Speaker 2: waking up in the morning, I can't find anything.
Speaker 1: I can't think straight.
Speaker 2: So I need everything ready the night before and twalla,
Speaker 2: like if I'm going to do an interview with something,
Speaker 2: I'm always preparing the night before.
Speaker 3: Can't can't do it the day of. This is why
Speaker 3: all my clothes look the same. I don't want to
Speaker 3: deal with that, right right, people don't know this.
Speaker 2: I'm usually wearing gray or black or whatever because it's
Speaker 2: just easier that way, it's easier. But anyhow, I put
Speaker 2: my clothes out the night before when I'm doing like
Speaker 2: bill handles or anything real early in the morning. If
Speaker 2: I'm doing bill handle, I have to leave the house
Speaker 2: by I want to say, four or fifteen the previous day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like four or fifteen in the morning.
Speaker 1: I try.
Speaker 2: It's going to be like thirty minutes or so to
Speaker 2: get to KFI four forty five because I try to
Speaker 2: be there before wake up call starts because there whoever
Speaker 2: it was Jennifer Jones leave in the past, she may
Speaker 2: want me to talk with her during to give the
Speaker 2: segment what have you. Then you have the show which
Speaker 2: starts at six am. And I'm a person I don't
Speaker 2: like getting to the station like a half hour before I.
Speaker 1: Go on the air. I can't do that.
Speaker 2: I am not mentally or emotionally ready to do a
Speaker 2: show thirty minutes after walking in the door. I can't
Speaker 2: do it. I usually get here at least three hours
Speaker 2: before the show. And I'm not saying that as a boast.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that prepares me and relaxes me to
Speaker 2: do a show. So Bill handle whenever I would fill
Speaker 2: in for him, Oh it was hell. It was absolute
Speaker 2: hell on me. And then I go home. Let's say
Speaker 2: I get home at ten or eleven am.
Speaker 1: I got to take a nap. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: Oh, those those wake up call shifts are murder. I
Speaker 3: sat in with Jennifer Jones Lee once and I thought,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna think my way around this problem and to
Speaker 3: stay up all night. I was almost hallucinating. I can't.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is really difficult to wake up in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night. I can't go to sleep before
Speaker 2: midnight anyway. So the whole idea of going to sleep
Speaker 2: at eight pm, to get a decent night's sleep before
Speaker 2: getting up at three am.
Speaker 1: Is just not possible.
Speaker 3: You should never have to do that if you're not
Speaker 3: churning butter, milking cows and helping to raise a barn
Speaker 3: with your with your friends and overalls.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I lived in part of the city even
Speaker 2: now where I have neighbors in the neighboring communities which
Speaker 2: have roosters, and they they will go off at any
Speaker 2: time of the day because of this street lights that
Speaker 2: throws off their natural rhythm as far as when the
Speaker 2: dawn is so it's really hard sometimes to get to
Speaker 2: sleep in my neighborhood. Open season on roosters look between
Speaker 2: them and the coyotes. We got problems, huh, we got misunderstandings.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, just wait until we kick off that next thing
Speaker 3: that we're working on. Oh we can't tell them, yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, no, yeah, it's going to be fun. Let
Speaker 3: me tell you about this luxury resort in northern San
Speaker 3: Diego County. It recently began banning guests under the age
Speaker 3: of eighteen from staying overnight. In other words, no kids
Speaker 3: allowed and kids that could be seventeen on down. And
Speaker 3: this is called the Alila Marea beach resort and it's
Speaker 3: an Encinnitas. And the question here is whether you can
Speaker 3: make a hotel adult only.
Speaker 2: There's a question of whether it violates California civil rights
Speaker 2: laws that ensure equal access to businesses and public accommodations.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the question.
Speaker 2: Here's the question, because I know private establishments, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: you can have adults only established you have adults only cruises.
Speaker 2: They are all sorts of events which said you're not
Speaker 2: going to have kids. But since it's a beach, everyone
Speaker 2: should have access. That's the question. And I don't know
Speaker 2: because the resort is not the beach. Men of that
Speaker 2: is the resort is the private business itself.
Speaker 1: The beach, I guess is public to a certain degree.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have a civil right as a
Speaker 2: miner to stay in all establishments.
Speaker 3: So the resort as it's built, the property of the hotel,
Speaker 3: all the grounds, that's the private business. But once it
Speaker 3: gets out into the sand, that's public.
Speaker 1: Beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question. And that we had a similar
Speaker 2: issue with Malibu. People who were residents did not want
Speaker 2: people who didn't live in the area from using the
Speaker 2: beach or accessing the beach.
Speaker 1: And if I remember it correctly. Mark.
Speaker 2: You may remember did you cover the story where the
Speaker 2: Malibu residents were trying to keep out people who didn't
Speaker 2: live there from surfing, and there was a question of
Speaker 2: whether they should have legal access to the beach itself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's been so long that I don't recall
Speaker 3: the particulars of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. This is something which is not new
Speaker 2: in and of itself. I'll look it up. But the
Speaker 2: question is where does the property line of the resort
Speaker 2: begin and end. If it's only a function of having
Speaker 2: access to the beach area, that's one thing. But this,
Speaker 2: as I read it has to do with staying at
Speaker 2: the resort, which to me is a no brainer. I mean,
Speaker 2: there are all sorts of businesses that you know, just
Speaker 2: say just for adults only. I use example of cruise ships.
Speaker 2: That's a private party if you will, that you're paying.
Speaker 2: It's basically a resort on the water that you're paying
Speaker 2: to stay at.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know what the difference is.
Speaker 3: The argument against that doesn't make sense if only for
Speaker 3: the fact that we have things called bars and bars
Speaker 3: are twenty one and only why because you have to
Speaker 3: be twenty one and over in California to drink. This
Speaker 3: is seemingly a no brainer. If it's a private establishment,
Speaker 3: they've bought the land, they put the hotel and all
Speaker 3: the amenities on it. It's their property. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: keep people from coming.
Speaker 1: And there's an other precedent.
Speaker 2: I mean, the policy is not unique among short term accommodations.
Speaker 2: Even in San Diego County, countless hostels have age restrictions
Speaker 2: in place, as well as other major resorts like Vista
Speaker 2: Health SPA hotel and two major casino resorts, which goes
Speaker 2: back to your point about bars. You know, casinos are
Speaker 2: no different in that regard, but there's still a question
Speaker 2: of whether it's legal. California has broad protections against quote
Speaker 2: unquote discrimination by businesses under nineteen fifty nine law called
Speaker 2: the UNRA Civil Rights Act, and the law prevents enterprises
Speaker 2: from implementing policies that arbitrarily deny equal access to their
Speaker 2: services based on a person's characteristics like race or sex.
Speaker 1: But this is not characteristics.
Speaker 2: There are age limitations and all sorts of business establishments. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that isn't new. Age is not, as of yet at
Speaker 2: least a protected group.
Speaker 3: No, because there's what I remember Once upon a time
Speaker 3: when the Arc Light existed, they did not allow babies
Speaker 3: into their movie theme. It's no different. It's saying we
Speaker 3: prefer a clientele that is of a certain age. They
Speaker 3: say nothing about race, they say nothing about gender, they
Speaker 3: say nothing about how anyone identifies, none of that. It
Speaker 3: is simply you must be over the age of twenty one,
Speaker 3: no matter how you're coming personally.
Speaker 1: I like establishments that don't allow kids. But that's just me. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's just me.
Speaker 3: You're far from Alona now, oh no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: I want to book a spot here because I'm all
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 1: I'm all about it.
Speaker 2: Wait, what resort is this? Where is this a Litla
Speaker 2: Maria Beach Resort. Yes, we're all our way live broadcast.
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