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<v Speaker 1>Gaff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm six forty, It's Friday. Thank goodness alive, everybody. iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>App is later with Mo Kelly and goodness. It's unfortunate

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<v Speaker 2>I have to start with this, but I feel compelled

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<v Speaker 2>to start with this because it's been the talker the

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<v Speaker 2>story of the day, Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to make sure I acknowledge her by name.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw far too many news reports where it was just

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<v Speaker 2>Gene Hackman and his wife, as if she weren't a

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<v Speaker 2>person of equal stature and standing in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>But Gene Hackman and Betsy Aracaa.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember how I said, Look, I'm going to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna find out what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>There would be an autopsy, there would be a toxicology,

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<v Speaker 2>and we still haven't gotten the toxicology report yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>we would get some of these answers, and far too

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<v Speaker 2>many people, I mean actual commentators, television personalities. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>idiots on social media could not wait to try to

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<v Speaker 2>fill in all the blanks with some sort of conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theory because they had moved to New Mexico or something

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<v Speaker 2>like they were hiding from someone who had to been

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<v Speaker 2>a hit man or they died from carbon monoxide poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know they want it was actually a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>They just wanted to look like that, because why did

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<v Speaker 2>one dog die and the other dogs? You hurt all

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<v Speaker 2>of them. You saw those, You probably read some of those.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, you probably wrote some of those. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was just saying, there's no need to rush, speculate and

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<v Speaker 2>try to fill in the blanks ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we have, you know, medical examiners.

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<v Speaker 2>They were going to give us the answers or at

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<v Speaker 2>least some approximation, and they did just that. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know, they both died of quote unquote natural causes.

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<v Speaker 2>Betsy Arakawa died of hantivirus from affectant rodent or rodent droppings.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know anything about the hantavirus and gene. Hackman

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<v Speaker 2>had some sort of heart disease heart related event which

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<v Speaker 2>led to his death, and he also had contributing factors

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<v Speaker 2>of Alzheimer's. I'm not a physician, but that's basically the story.

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<v Speaker 2>He might have heard Mark Ronner reporting on it. He

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<v Speaker 2>basically died of being ninety five years old. Imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that most of us will not get to see

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good long run. It is a good long run.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a terribly, terribly a sad story as far

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<v Speaker 2>as how this came to an end. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>about Gene Hackman from what I know now as far

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<v Speaker 2>as the advanced Alzheimer's and how his wife from what

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<v Speaker 2>we know that'si Arakawa preceded him in death. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>what was the last six or seven days of Gene

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<v Speaker 2>Hackman's life like, was he aware that his wife had passed?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he completely in control of his faculties? Did did

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<v Speaker 2>he dive from malnutrition as well? You know, was he

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<v Speaker 2>able to feed himself because he obviously wasn't communicating with

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<v Speaker 2>the outside world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, we need somebody from law enforcement or

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<v Speaker 3>the family to fill in those gaps in part to

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<v Speaker 3>stop what you've been talking about, which is just the

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<v Speaker 3>irresponsible conjecture from numbskulls. And I think that makes the

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<v Speaker 3>story worse, the irresponsible conjecture from the numb school.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you deserve better. They deserve better. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>we as a civil society should do better.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in this world where everything we don't he'd

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<v Speaker 2>immediately have all the answers to or if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>immediately know the results of an election, or if not

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<v Speaker 2>everything is explained to us immediately, there must be some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of conspiracy. There must be some sort of subterfuge,

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of skull duggery or something, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to make ourselves feel better as if only I

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<v Speaker 2>know the story. Ah No, it's not what the media

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<v Speaker 2>is telling us. We know what happened. Someone murdered them.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't have to end the story, at least as

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<v Speaker 2>far as how we told it. It didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>end that way. Gene Hackman deserve better. That's the Arakawa

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<v Speaker 2>deserve better, and we should know better and do better

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<v Speaker 2>going forward. It was a story then, and we made

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<v Speaker 2>it worse. We could have just waited until we got

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<v Speaker 2>some solid reporting. First. The first report we remember is like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing suspicious, natural causes, and then people didn't believe that. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably by first look, if you just find two people

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<v Speaker 2>and then through more investigation there was a degree of

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<v Speaker 2>suspicion attached and a more thorough investigation, then we get

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<v Speaker 2>the autopsy results. In fact, no, we got the information

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<v Speaker 2>from the from the gas company and said no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no gas leak, so it was not carbon

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<v Speaker 2>monoxide poisoning. As time passed, we got more and more information,

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<v Speaker 2>we got closer and closer to the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>But some people don't want the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people just want to irresponsibly speculate and provide conjecture,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think it makes it worse than it

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<v Speaker 2>actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are some, because we're so conspiratorial.

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<v Speaker 2>Who won't accept that this is the actual truth because

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<v Speaker 2>it does not job with what they.

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<v Speaker 1>Have in their mind already.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter, no amount of facts, will make any difference,

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<v Speaker 2>No facts will matter to those individuals. You know who

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. You probably are friends with them, you

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<v Speaker 2>might be related to them. Hell, you might be one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And that's why I think we, in a

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<v Speaker 2>societal sense, we have failed one another because we lose

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<v Speaker 2>sight of our humanity. We lose sight of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Gene Hackman, although he was a two time Academy

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<v Speaker 2>Award winner, was someone's father, obviously someone's husband, someone's relative.

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<v Speaker 2>And we lose sight of the fact that all that

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<v Speaker 2>rampant speculation impacts the surviving members of the family.

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<v Speaker 1>We forget that we shouldn't forget it, but we obviously do,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people don't even care. When I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at just the general tenor of the commentary surrounding Gene

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<v Speaker 1>Hackman and Betsy Aracaba, it was flagrantly, flagrantly just disregarding

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<v Speaker 1>good common sense and decency. Well, what's the wildest thing

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<v Speaker 1>you read?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>As a hit man?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, yes, why wouldn't you send a hit man

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<v Speaker 3>out to take care of somebody who's ninety five? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not kidding. I saw that a few times. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>hit man from Mexico. And they kept stressing Mexico and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, no, people, it was New Mexico. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why you're making the stretch all the way

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<v Speaker 3>to Mexico as if that by itself is tantamount for assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's mixed in with our political ideology. New Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>borders Mexico, so therefore it must have been some illegal immigrant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're not sitting their best.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I read that seriously, because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like Gene Hackman lived as far as I know, some

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<v Speaker 2>life where people were searching, everyone knew where he was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like he was hiding. He just removed himself

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<v Speaker 3>from public. They're sending people to kill our elderly actress.

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<v Speaker 3>This is unacceptable. That's how ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it gotten because people thought that they didn't immediately

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<v Speaker 2>have all the answers given to them, that someone must

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<v Speaker 2>have been hiding the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we do that in so many areas of our life,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not even going to list them because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want the headache of complaints. But this whole incident

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<v Speaker 3>that's been dragging on for days. I've written many many

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<v Speaker 3>obituaries in my journalism career, and you take extra care

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<v Speaker 3>with those because it's often the last word on somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>and you never want to make a mistake so much

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<v Speaker 3>as a typo in the name, anything like that. You

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<v Speaker 3>take extraordinary care with thebituaries because also their families feelings

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<v Speaker 3>are at stake. Their family's going to read every word

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<v Speaker 3>you write, and in this case, they're going to hear

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<v Speaker 3>every word that's said as well. And what kind of

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<v Speaker 3>monster would put something intentionally out there that they don't

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<v Speaker 3>know for sure to be true. That's who we are now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, that's right. It's later with mo Kelly kfi

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<v Speaker 3>Am six forty. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a new Orange County ninety one freeway project

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<v Speaker 3>which broke ground today. Got to tell you about. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to take like forever. It's never gonna get done,

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<v Speaker 3>the traffic's not going to get any better. Or I

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<v Speaker 3>just did the whole story. Okay, Well we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>it more when we come back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>If you have lived in southern California long enough, you

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<v Speaker 2>have seen the progression and evolution of our freeway system.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're over the age of I don't know, forty

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<v Speaker 2>five or so, you may remember how long it took

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<v Speaker 2>to get the one oh five Freeway actually built. It

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<v Speaker 2>took forever to day, like finished, maybe a decade after

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<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to be done. If you remember, like

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<v Speaker 2>the early nineteen nineties, all the work they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>on the five Freeway going towards south towards Orange County,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seemed like they were doing work on the

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<v Speaker 2>five for freakin' ever for a good decade.

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<v Speaker 1>There was always construction.

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<v Speaker 2>There was always something slowing down the flow of traffic

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<v Speaker 2>on the five Freeway. You might remember the expansion project

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<v Speaker 2>of the four or five freeway going to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Valley over the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>As they say that took forever, and they were all

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<v Speaker 2>done in the hopes of alleviating traffic. And I'm quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure all of us would agree traffic is still as

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<v Speaker 2>horrible as ever. It took me two hours to drive

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two miles today, two hours, no exaggeration. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>been here for all of those expansion projects, widening of

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<v Speaker 2>the freeways, insertion of the high occupancy vehicle lanes, called

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<v Speaker 2>them the diamond lanes back in the day. None of

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<v Speaker 2>it has helped. That's why I'm a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>cynical than most. When I come across a story about

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of freeway improvement project which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>help alleviate traffic, I just kind of just start just

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<v Speaker 2>shaking in anger, because I don't know if it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn out any differently, But supposedly for efforts to

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<v Speaker 2>improve driver safety and relieve congestion, that's how it's being builled.

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<v Speaker 2>On the ninety one Freeway in Orange County, a five year,

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and seventy nine million dollar project is underway,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not here to talk about the money spent. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>someone's getting paid, someone has a job. Fine, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying I know what the history was when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to these expansion projects. The Orange County Transportation Authority and

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<v Speaker 2>partnership with Caltrans broke ground on the SR ninety one

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<v Speaker 2>improvement project today and the project is supposed supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>take place in three Faise Jesus along a five mile

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty seven and.

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<v Speaker 2>A fifty five at Lakeview Avenue, with a completion target

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<v Speaker 2>date of twenty thirty. Remember what I was saying about

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<v Speaker 2>the one oh five freeway, It's probably not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be finished by twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say it's finished by twenty thirty five. All right, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Much is it really going to change the flow of traffic?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you got to do something. But we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked long and hard about the people who were supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>leaving California because California is just so horrible. Thousands and

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people are leaving. And remember what I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, thank you, thank goodness. The more people that left,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully the better the traffic. Because for me, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I know, with fewer people on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>fewer people in the state means fewer people on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>fewer runners that are probably given out everybody with.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not doing that. That's not what those are. What

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<v Speaker 3>those already have a number of names. We don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to call them by my name. You actually you should.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you ought to get that trademarked.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>There must be some more fruitful way to attack this problem.

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<v Speaker 3>You're stuck with it now. People are just gonna think

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<v Speaker 3>of the bird and Mark Ronner. Thank God, nobody's listening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no one's listening.

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<v Speaker 2>But improvements include the reconstruction of on ramps and off ramps,

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<v Speaker 2>the addition of a regular east bound lane for a

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<v Speaker 2>portion of the project, and interchange improvements to lessen the

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<v Speaker 2>need for drivers to merge and weave. Okay, I hope so,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's only five miles and I've driven that portion

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<v Speaker 2>of the ninety one for the past thirty years. At

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<v Speaker 2>the freeway real well. Spent a lot of time in

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<v Speaker 2>the Fullerton area, not too far from there. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>personally think this is just me. If we put more

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<v Speaker 2>out beyond just La Metro, that's more like Metrolink going

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<v Speaker 2>out that way, that would be more of a viable alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're so stuck in our cars and it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to think of life outside of our cars. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish people could see other cities, and I know LA

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<v Speaker 2>is so expansive, it is so spread out. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. It's not feasible, and it's not safe

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<v Speaker 2>too either, But that's a whole other discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's another freeway project.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite sure it's well intentioned, I'm quite sure it's

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<v Speaker 2>even necessary, and I'm quite sure it probably will improve

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<v Speaker 2>the flow of traffic at that five mile portion for

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<v Speaker 2>issue here in southern California. And to only really understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to have lived through it and seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now if you come like Mark Ronner, if you come

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<v Speaker 2>from another state, it's just bad traffic. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>grew up here and you've lived here your whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen how it has gotten progressively worse by decade.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be the one ten Freeway was never

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<v Speaker 2>all that crowded, and my first job was downtown. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was like eighth and Hill Street when I

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<v Speaker 2>was working for the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is the early nineties. It was a straight, easy stretch

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<v Speaker 2>straight downtown didn't have any problem. And that was before

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<v Speaker 2>they had that fast track lane. That was before they

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<v Speaker 1>It was only if they did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only one lane, so they weren't trying to

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<v Speaker 2>cram everybody over to the right in those lanes, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was easy to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the one ten Freeway is just horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for Stefan, but for me, it only

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<v Speaker 2>opens up if you're going south after you get past Slawson.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to get past Slawson and then it'll start to

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<v Speaker 2>open up a bit when you're just north of the

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<v Speaker 2>Englewood area, And if you're going north, it's just bad

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<v Speaker 1>You know they can. And part of the reason, and

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason why it's so bad is because

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<v Speaker 2>they've put in those fast track lanes that only four

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<v Speaker 2>cars use, five if you include Stephan because he uses them.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me I'm wrong, Stephan. Not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>use the fast track lays. You're not wrong about that

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And then all the rest of us, regular people,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the regular lanes, just stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's four lanes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's two lanes, but the regular lanes fo yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fast track is two lanes, but they're two

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<v Speaker 2>huge lanes. I say that to say, if you took

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<v Speaker 2>out the fast track lanes, and I know that's about money,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just had six lanes of people just driving.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be better for everyone because technically, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that used to be the diamond lane. Yes it was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, and now it's fast tracked.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and it's double the width, yeah, because there was

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<v Speaker 2>only one lane for the diamond lane, and you could

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<v Speaker 2>conceivably have six lanes going in both directions at that

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<v Speaker 2>point on the one ten, and that probably would alleviate

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic problem at least on the one ten. And

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<v Speaker 2>I say that because I know they have the fast

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<v Speaker 2>track lanes in Orange County on the ninety one right

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<v Speaker 2>around that point as well. How do I know that

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<v Speaker 2>because I accidentally got in one of those lanes one

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<v Speaker 2>time and they have these these like vertical dividers. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't drive over them. You know, you're literally stuck in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're stuck in there. So and I accidentally took the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and and they'll scan you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I got the ticket later on.

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<v Speaker 2>My point is if we did the things which made

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<v Speaker 2>more sense as opposed to always trying to make a

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<v Speaker 2>profit on everything, I believe the traffic would be less

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<v Speaker 2>of an issue. If we had six free flowing lanes

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<v Speaker 2>in each direction, which they can in most portions of

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<v Speaker 2>these freeways where they have fast track, it would not

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<v Speaker 2>be as bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know, if Fush's secret, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>got a blow up dollar a mannekin to put in

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<v Speaker 1>Are you know you can do it with fast track?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell them, oh, oh fast track, Yeah you can do it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's why they made fast track, because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to have someone in the car with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I'm too cheap for whatever that costs. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm too cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, my problem was it doesn't go pass downtown. If

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<v Speaker 2>they had fast track which went through downtown, I would

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<v Speaker 2>to the five. Just get me to the five from

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<v Speaker 2>the one ten. I would pay big money for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it stops at USC and you're still a good

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<v Speaker 2>five or six miles from downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at the game. Yeah, right at the Gale One Center.

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<v Speaker 3>Now do trains Anybody who has ever been to Europe

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<v Speaker 3>and then sees LA's traffic, thank you. Well, we'll just

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<v Speaker 3>be insane with rage, like why can't we have what

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<v Speaker 3>they have?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they plan their infrastructure and then they put money

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<v Speaker 2>into their infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>And they don't have lobbyists buying off Congress with money

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<v Speaker 3>from fossil fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true too, that's true. I'll allow that, will you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes later with mo Kelly Cay if I am six

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<v Speaker 2>forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Yes, two hours

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<v Speaker 2>to get in today, twenty two miles two hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Like two freaking hours, one direction. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>use the time to meditate. I did, no, seriously, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I usually turn off the radio, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just try to stay in a calm state in my thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe return some phone calls. That's a great time too,

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<v Speaker 2>I got two hours to kill Why not. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're giving off a real sedate vibe right now. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounds almost like he was being sarcastic. Never Never, when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we got it. Remind you it is

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<v Speaker 2>daylight saving time change weekend or something like that on Sunday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the days are going to get longer, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have more sunlight, and I'll be in a much better mood, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>much better mood. And also you notice the traffic will

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<v Speaker 2>get better because of daylight saving Is that how that works?

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<v Speaker 2>Or at least depending on the time that you leave work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you another side. I'll tell you on the side.

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<v Speaker 2>Got some good news for you. We know the bars

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<v Speaker 2>are closing an hour earlier. This is not that Mark, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm actually happy about this particular Friday because that

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<v Speaker 2>means the Sunday go back to daylight saving time. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it sounds kind of weird, but I actually look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to it in the way that I dread when

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<v Speaker 2>daylight Saving Time is over and we go back to

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<v Speaker 2>standard time. I do know, going back to last SEC

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<v Speaker 2>when I was talking with Mark Ronner about why it

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<v Speaker 2>impacts traffic, and this is not aecdotal I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any data to prove this, but I do notice a

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<v Speaker 2>considerable difference. We were talking about traffic during daylight saving time,

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<v Speaker 2>since we have more sunlight or i'll say a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shifting degree of sunlight.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that people tend.

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<v Speaker 2>To spread out the time in which they're going home.

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<v Speaker 2>They will stay at the office a little bit later,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole five to six o'clock PM crunch is

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<v Speaker 2>not as as difficult to manage, and because people will

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<v Speaker 2>stay later at work because why the sun's out. But

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<v Speaker 2>when the sun is down and it's dark at four

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty reasonable people's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My day's over.

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<v Speaker 2>So you get on the road at around four thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock, it's absolutely hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's trying to go home at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And also during daylight saving time, you get closer to

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<v Speaker 2>spring break and also summer break, so there are fewer

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<v Speaker 2>cars than into the summers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to wake up and it's pitch black

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<v Speaker 2>dark at seven thirty in the morning. Look, stop laughing, Stefan.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not gonna give me a rim shot, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish you could see him. He's eating food that the

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<v Speaker 2>Tuola got for the team tonight, Thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 2>Tuala quietly, and he's like listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not in the show. He's just as just a listener. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got his priority. It's like, wow, this is my show, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna laugh at my jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>And see it's not supposed to be like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to be at the ready because I might

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<v Speaker 2>say something very funny at any moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Hushmark, Yeah, you want to be ready for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Be on a hair trigger for mo being funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh here we go, Yeah, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the point is?

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I do look forward to daylight saving time,

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<v Speaker 3>just more slight. I'm in a much more cheery mood.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't like the winter. I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>the cold, I don't like the darkness. It's all good

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<v Speaker 3>starting Sunday. I admire your adherence to daylight saving time

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<v Speaker 3>with no s on the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a remnant of Chris Little. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. There is some dangers with this time change. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not all good moment what are you talking about? There

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<v Speaker 3>are some mental things that we have to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>that if we are not ready. All of that traffic

423
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<v Speaker 3>and all of the bad driving and all that, it

424
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<v Speaker 3>just compounds because of the time change. People's rhythm is

425
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<v Speaker 3>thrown off. Sometimes people aren't getting as much sleep because

426
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<v Speaker 3>they're prepared for getting up earlier. So it's just everything

427
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<v Speaker 3>is bad and mentally. This is This is a proven

428
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<v Speaker 3>scientific facts. Many studies have gone into proving that just

429
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<v Speaker 3>the time changing alone is bad. But comenday we could

430
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<v Speaker 3>be in for some more accidents.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll be fine, I'll be fine, it won't be

432
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<v Speaker 1>a problem.

433
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<v Speaker 2>I don't drive at the same time as all these

434
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<v Speaker 2>other hooligans and hulum sin ernat out there. I don't don't.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I usually get on the road at like two o'clock

436
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.920
<v Speaker 2>or something. That's what I get to avoid more of you.

437
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in that morning crush of traffic, and I'm

438
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<v Speaker 2>not in that evening crush of traffic. It's worse now

439
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.559
<v Speaker 2>because it's daylight saving time. What I dealt with today,

440
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I left the house a little too late. I got

441
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<v Speaker 2>on the road at like three point fifteen, and that's

442
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.400
<v Speaker 2>the kiss of death. Can't do that because that means

443
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm hitting downtown. It took me an hour to go

444
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.480
<v Speaker 2>ten miles to downtown, and I looked at my clock.

445
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<v Speaker 2>It was four o'clock and I was just downtown. I

446
00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>left a little bit after three, and by then it's

447
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<v Speaker 2>way too late because people are actually leaving more like

448
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:36.599
<v Speaker 2>if you got to work at seven am, you're probably

449
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<v Speaker 2>leaving around four.

450
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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the change that screws most people up.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Just pick a thing, pick one, and let's stick with it,

452
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<v Speaker 3>because it's the going back and forth that requires like

453
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<v Speaker 3>a week of adjustment.

454
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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

455
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<v Speaker 2>I wish we would just stay at daylight saving time

456
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<v Speaker 2>the whole time. I would not want to be standard time,

457
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>but I would like to minimize the amount of darkness.

458
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<v Speaker 1>That's just me. That's just me. I don't care.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Just pay one because we were not an agricultural farming

460
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 3>society like we were when this started.

461
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>But we do have a huge agriculture industry in California.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but back I would say a generation or two

463
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<v Speaker 3>before you and I, the majority of Americans belonged to

464
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<v Speaker 3>farming families in one way or another, and now it's

465
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<v Speaker 3>a sliver of that.

466
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<v Speaker 2>What year is this you're talking about? Because you're older

467
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<v Speaker 2>than me, I don't know if we're in the same jo.

468
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<v Speaker 2>You listen up, Grandpa. You don't want to get into this.

469
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, the like the fifties and earlier.

470
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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't alive then, so I don't know. Well, neither

471
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:34.039
<v Speaker 2>was I.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Oh you were talking like you knew something. You're like, okay,

473
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<v Speaker 1>you must have been born.

474
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been exposed to mass media. Is that okay?

475
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh you did your research. I've seen mystery signs, theater

476
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 3>shorts on truck farming.

477
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got me beat on that one. Okay.

478
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But I'm good with staying with daylight saving time. I

479
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 2>really am year round. If they kill it and get

480
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<v Speaker 2>rid of it, will probably be just stay time year round.

481
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<v Speaker 2>And there's some states like Arizona they're just standard time

482
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<v Speaker 2>year round.

483
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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't want it. I would want daylight saving time.

484
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<v Speaker 2>That would be preferable for me if I had a

485
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<v Speaker 2>vote in this, which I don't.

486
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:16.319
<v Speaker 1>If I had a vote. I don't care about you

487
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 1>or your life.

488
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<v Speaker 3>There's also scientific research that shows that waking up early

489
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 3>is detrimental to people's health. And I'm not making that

490
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<v Speaker 3>up just because I'm lazy. No, it's like it's a

491
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:27.880
<v Speaker 3>shock to the system. Yeah, no, I know that.

492
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 2>And I've argue that point with my wife because she

493
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<v Speaker 2>is a morning person, and she would try to tell me, Hey,

494
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you just haven't had the right job.

495
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 1>If you had the.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Job, you'll eventually become a morning person. No, I won't

497
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<v Speaker 2>that will never become a morning person.

498
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I had.

499
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<v Speaker 2>My first radio job was Jim Rome and his show

500
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>was on from nine am to noon. We had to

501
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<v Speaker 2>be in the office between six thirty and seven am

502
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>with a commute before that. All right, no, no, no,

503
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 2>I will never be a morning person.

504
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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't last a week.

505
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.079
<v Speaker 3>No. Being the morning person sucks.

506
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And you have to get up before dawn every morning,

507
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 2>every morning, and it's not cool. It's really really not

508
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>cool at all. What is a typical morning for you?

509
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 3>I have all the fifty eleven alarms that have to

510
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 3>keep me up. I have my six am alarm, then

511
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I have a six fifteen, a six thirty, a six

512
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 3>forty five or seven and seven fifteen and so forth.

513
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 3>And each of these fifteen minute increments is just in

514
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 3>case I stopped for a minute and sit down and

515
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 3>doze off. So it's constantly keep me going because I

516
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 3>gotta get up, got to make sure my daughter's get ready.

517
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 3>I got to make sure that my son is not

518
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 3>giving me. Yeah, I'm up. And then twenty minutes later

519
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I go in and he's still head under the cover.

520
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a lot, but that's only after leaving here like

521
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 3>two of the morning.

522
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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't pay me to do Bill Handle's show. You

523
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 2>could not pay me. There's not enough money. You never

524
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 2>had to fill in for him. Oh I have many times, Yeah,

525
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>many times. And it was absolute hell. Because I'm getting

526
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.720
<v Speaker 2>up at three point thirty four. I'm getting on the

527
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 2>road by four fifteen. I don't mess around. I don't

528
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 2>have a snooze alarm or anything like that. When my

529
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>alarm goes off, it's a conversation. I have my clock.

530
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 2>My clock has already told me it's time to get up.

531
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.440
<v Speaker 2>You cannot sleep anymore. You don't have any snooze get up.

532
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>When the alarm goes off, it's time to move I usually,

533
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>like I'm my own parent, I put my clothes out

534
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>for the next morning the night before, because when I'm

535
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>waking up in the morning, I can't find anything.

536
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't think straight.

537
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 2>So I need everything ready the night before and twalla,

538
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 2>like if I'm going to do an interview with something,

539
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm always preparing the night before.

540
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Can't can't do it the day of. This is why

541
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 3>all my clothes look the same. I don't want to

542
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 3>deal with that, right right, people don't know this.

543
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm usually wearing gray or black or whatever because it's

544
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>just easier that way, it's easier. But anyhow, I put

545
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>my clothes out the night before when I'm doing like

546
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>bill handles or anything real early in the morning. If

547
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing bill handle, I have to leave the house

548
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>by I want to say, four or fifteen the previous day. Yeah,

549
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like four or fifteen in the morning.

550
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I try.

551
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be like thirty minutes or so to

552
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>get to KFI four forty five because I try to

553
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>be there before wake up call starts because there whoever

554
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>it was Jennifer Jones leave in the past, she may

555
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>want me to talk with her during to give the

556
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 2>segment what have you. Then you have the show which

557
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>starts at six am. And I'm a person I don't

558
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>like getting to the station like a half hour before I.

559
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Go on the air. I can't do that.

560
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I am not mentally or emotionally ready to do a

561
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>show thirty minutes after walking in the door. I can't

562
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>do it. I usually get here at least three hours

563
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 2>before the show. And I'm not saying that as a boast.

564
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that prepares me and relaxes me to

565
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>do a show. So Bill handle whenever I would fill

566
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>in for him, Oh it was hell. It was absolute

567
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>hell on me. And then I go home. Let's say

568
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I get home at ten or eleven am.

569
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I got to take a nap. I can't. I can't.

570
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it.

571
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, those those wake up call shifts are murder. I

572
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 3>sat in with Jennifer Jones Lee once and I thought,

573
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna think my way around this problem and to

574
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>stay up all night. I was almost hallucinating. I can't.

575
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is really difficult to wake up in the

576
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>middle of the night. I can't go to sleep before

577
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>midnight anyway. So the whole idea of going to sleep

578
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 2>at eight pm, to get a decent night's sleep before

579
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>getting up at three am.

580
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Is just not possible.

581
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 3>You should never have to do that if you're not

582
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 3>churning butter, milking cows and helping to raise a barn

583
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>with your with your friends and overalls.

584
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, I lived in part of the city even

585
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 2>now where I have neighbors in the neighboring communities which

586
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>have roosters, and they they will go off at any

587
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.599
<v Speaker 2>time of the day because of this street lights that

588
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 2>throws off their natural rhythm as far as when the

589
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>dawn is so it's really hard sometimes to get to

590
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>sleep in my neighborhood. Open season on roosters look between

591
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>them and the coyotes. We got problems, huh, we got misunderstandings.

592
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>It's later with moo Kelly KFI AM six forty live

593
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<v Speaker 2>everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and I gotta let you

594
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<v Speaker 2>know this real quick. Angel City FC kicks off their

595
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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five season Sunday, March sixteenth at home against

596
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597
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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

603
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>And you can also find us on YouTube and Spotify,

604
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<v Speaker 2>Apple Podcasts. Wherever you find your favorite podcasts, you can

605
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<v Speaker 2>find us as well. Oh and twat just let you know,

606
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>we got like thirty new Spotify listeners last night, you know,

607
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<v Speaker 2>fow yes, So if you like Spotify, you can listen

608
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<v Speaker 2>to the show there as well. Yes, got like twenty

609
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<v Speaker 2>to thirty YouTube subscribers this week as well, So people

610
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<v Speaker 2>are finding us just from other non conventional ways where

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<v Speaker 2>you may not think of listening to podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, just wait until we kick off that next thing

613
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.839
<v Speaker 3>that we're working on. Oh we can't tell them, yeah,

614
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, no, yeah, it's going to be fun. Let

615
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.319
<v Speaker 3>me tell you about this luxury resort in northern San

616
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Diego County. It recently began banning guests under the age

617
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 3>of eighteen from staying overnight. In other words, no kids

618
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 3>allowed and kids that could be seventeen on down. And

619
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 3>this is called the Alila Marea beach resort and it's

620
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>an Encinnitas. And the question here is whether you can

621
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 3>make a hotel adult only.

622
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 2>There's a question of whether it violates California civil rights

623
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>laws that ensure equal access to businesses and public accommodations.

624
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the question.

625
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Here's the question, because I know private establishments, it's yeah,

626
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you can have adults only established you have adults only cruises.

627
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>They are all sorts of events which said you're not

628
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>going to have kids. But since it's a beach, everyone

629
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>should have access. That's the question. And I don't know

630
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<v Speaker 2>because the resort is not the beach. Men of that

631
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>is the resort is the private business itself.

632
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 1>The beach, I guess is public to a certain degree.

633
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you have a civil right as a

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<v Speaker 2>miner to stay in all establishments.

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<v Speaker 3>So the resort as it's built, the property of the hotel,

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<v Speaker 3>all the grounds, that's the private business. But once it

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<v Speaker 3>gets out into the sand, that's public.

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<v Speaker 1>Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the question. And that we had a similar

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<v Speaker 2>issue with Malibu. People who were residents did not want

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<v Speaker 2>people who didn't live in the area from using the

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<v Speaker 2>beach or accessing the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I remember it correctly. Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>You may remember did you cover the story where the

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<v Speaker 2>Malibu residents were trying to keep out people who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>live there from surfing, and there was a question of

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<v Speaker 2>whether they should have legal access to the beach itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's been so long that I don't recall

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<v Speaker 3>the particulars of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember. This is something which is not new

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<v Speaker 2>in and of itself. I'll look it up. But the

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<v Speaker 2>question is where does the property line of the resort

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<v Speaker 2>begin and end. If it's only a function of having

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<v Speaker 2>access to the beach area, that's one thing. But this,

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<v Speaker 2>as I read it has to do with staying at

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<v Speaker 2>the resort, which to me is a no brainer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there are all sorts of businesses that you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>say just for adults only. I use example of cruise ships.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a private party if you will, that you're paying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically a resort on the water that you're paying

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<v Speaker 2>to stay at.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I don't know what the difference is.

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<v Speaker 3>The argument against that doesn't make sense if only for

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we have things called bars and bars

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<v Speaker 3>are twenty one and only why because you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be twenty one and over in California to drink. This

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<v Speaker 3>is seemingly a no brainer. If it's a private establishment,

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<v Speaker 3>they've bought the land, they put the hotel and all

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<v Speaker 3>the amenities on it. It's their property. Yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 3>keep people from coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an other precedent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the policy is not unique among short term accommodations.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in San Diego County, countless hostels have age restrictions

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<v Speaker 2>in place, as well as other major resorts like Vista

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<v Speaker 2>Health SPA hotel and two major casino resorts, which goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to your point about bars. You know, casinos are

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<v Speaker 2>no different in that regard, but there's still a question

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<v Speaker 2>of whether it's legal. California has broad protections against quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote discrimination by businesses under nineteen fifty nine law called

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<v Speaker 2>the UNRA Civil Rights Act, and the law prevents enterprises

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<v Speaker 2>from implementing policies that arbitrarily deny equal access to their

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<v Speaker 2>services based on a person's characteristics like race or sex.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not characteristics.

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<v Speaker 2>There are age limitations and all sorts of business establishments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't new. Age is not, as of yet at

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<v Speaker 2>least a protected group.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because there's what I remember Once upon a time

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<v Speaker 3>when the Arc Light existed, they did not allow babies

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<v Speaker 3>into their movie theme. It's no different. It's saying we

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<v Speaker 3>prefer a clientele that is of a certain age. They

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<v Speaker 3>say nothing about race, they say nothing about gender, they

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<v Speaker 3>say nothing about how anyone identifies, none of that. It

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<v Speaker 3>is simply you must be over the age of twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how you're coming personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I like establishments that don't allow kids. But that's just me. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just me.

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<v Speaker 3>You're far from Alona now, oh no, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to book a spot here because I'm all

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<v Speaker 3>about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what resort is this? Where is this a Litla

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<v Speaker 2>Maria Beach Resort. Yes, we're all our way live broadcast.

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