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to your smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so

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much for your support. Breaking news. I feel like I

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say that a lot in the last I've been saying

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that a lot in the last few days. Right, we

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have breaking news the USDA, or as I like to

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call it, usday, They have an inspector general. Have you

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heard of these igs? These are the guys that come

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in and gals that come in and you know, review

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things and you know, oh, we took a look at this,

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and malfeasans that or whatever. Right and general and you'll

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recall maybe although there's been a lot of news that

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Donald Trump fired a whole bunch of inspector general or

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inspectors general. And the breaking news from Reuter's is that

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the USDA Inspector General had to be escorted out of

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her office because she refused to comply with her firing. Like,

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I know you work in the public sector, but I'm

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not sure you understand what it means to get fired.

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Trust me, I can tell you they generally don't allow

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you to refuse. That's not how that works. Like you

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you no longer have a job here, you are no

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longer permitted in the building. We will take your key

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card and maybe, if you're lucky, we'll give you like

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five minutes to throw a bunch of stuff in a box,

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or maybe you can come back after hours and will

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hire some security to stand over you while you fill

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your box with stuff, right, Like, that's kind of how

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that goes. And by the way, the security people do

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not know what you are putting in the box, whether

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it's yours or not, which is always hilarious to me,

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Like they're going to be there to make sure I

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don't what steal something or do something that I look

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all right. To be fair, I have never had security

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have to monitor my exodus. Okay. I have been relieved

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of my my broadcasting duties twice in my career, once

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here and that was like ten years ago, and then

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once in Ashville, and both times. It was nothing I did.

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So it's not like I ever got fired for calls.

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It was always budgetary. It was like, we can't afford

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to pay you anymore. We're making cuts, and so they

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let me go. And when I got let go here,

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they let me actually stay on the air for the

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rest of the term of my contract for another almost month,

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which I was very grateful for. I appreciate that to

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this day, I still appreciate that. It is such, it

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is so out far outside of the norm. You know,

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usually when you are told that you've been let go

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by a broadcast company, they don't let you go back

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on the airwaves because they don't know what you're gonna say,

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you know, and they would prefer you not say anything

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bad about them, what being in a heightened emotional state

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and all. But I never had a security guard. But

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I did have when I was in Asheville. They had

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me come back in after hours and the boss was there.

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But it's not like he stood over me watching me

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or anything. But because I had a lot of stuff

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in my little office, and so I had a box

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and I put a bunch of stuff in there, stole

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a couple of computers, just the normal, you know, the

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normal thing. Then maybe some accessories and stuff, some historical

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things from the front lobby. But other than that, no,

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there was I'm just kidding. I did not do that.

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I keep a lot of paper records of things and

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so anyway, but this idea that the security people are

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going to be there, they're going to know what you're doing,

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and way, way, wait, that's not yours, Like really the

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bibblehead do you think that's the stations that No, that's mine,

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you know. Anyway, So this USDA Inspector General had to

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be escorted out of her office. This is just breaking

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from Reuter's News and apparently, uh oh, hang on a second,

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there's a Wikipedia about this person. Her name is Thong,

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her last name is Thong. I don't know her first name.

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Born in Philadelphia, raised in Honolulu. Earned a Bachelor of

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Arts degree in Asian Studies and a jd from Vanderbilt

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University Law School. Began her career as a staff attorney

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for the US Commission on Civil Rights. Served as Assistant

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General Counsel for the Legal Services Corporation, Assistant Inspector General

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for Management and Policy. Nominated to serve as Inspector General

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of the Small Business Administration in nineteen ninety nine. She's

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been there a long time. Yeah, she was. Yeah, she

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was initially put in there by Clinton. She doesn't have

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any experience in agriculture. She's the IG for agriculture. So yeah,

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I don't like the igs shouldn't be a permanent thing,

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should they? Like, you should put an inspector general in

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there when there's some whistleblower report of malfeastins or something. Right,

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This shouldn't be a career post, should it. I don't

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know now. The Trump administration also announce yesterday that it

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is offering buyouts to all federal employees who opt to

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leave their jobs by next week. And if I recall correctly,

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this is exactly what Elon Musk did at Twitter. When

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Elon Musk came in, and you had all these Twitter

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employees that were, you know, uh, predicting the end of

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Twitter as we know it. The whole thing is gonna

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come crashing down, which, by the way, last I checked it,

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you know it's still I'm actually looking at it right now.

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It's still up. It's still working. This gets to the

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and this was also evident in the reporting on the

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Federal freezing Fund or sorry, the federal funding freeze. The

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freezing fund is different. That's for refrigeration outreach, but the

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funding freeze. All of the stories are framed in this

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speculative way, like this could do that, this, may they

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do this other thing. Oh, the impacts are far reaching.

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We have no idea. It's like all of these predictions

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of dire consequences, and it is the laziest form of

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what I call journalism ing. That's what it is. It's

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not journalism. You predicting something could happen. Yeah, well, what

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about all of the other things that could happen? How

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Come that doesn't get any space in your story? Right

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when they were making these same predictions about Twitter, and

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it turns out, actually you don't need all of that

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staff to run Twitter, Elon Musk stripped it down, saved

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a bunch of money, right, did a bunch of changes

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and such, and people who want to work there and

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who are doing the work. We played this clip yesterday

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from a former federal employee who talked about the eighty

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twenty rule. Eighty percent of the work is done by

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twenty percent of the people that is not restricted only

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to a public sector agencies or employers. This happens in

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the private sector too, which is why, like Elon Musk

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has talked about this like it it is important to

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go through and clear out because once a company or

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a government agency starts doing something and they get good

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at it just getting into government agency, but like, okay,

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they they they get kind of okay, maybe they've hired

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a bunch of people and they got a big budget.

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That the mission creep is a natural thing. It happens everywhere,

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right If you want to say, okay, we're going to

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set up a little government here and it's going to

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be meant to you know, take some taxes, build up

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an army, you know, or police force, fire department, pave

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some roads, that kind of thing. And as they start

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doing that and people are okay with the the service

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they're getting for their money, then what happens, more economic activity,

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more revenue comes in, and then the gov code people

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start saying, well, you know, we could also do this

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other thing over here. It's like wholl whoa whoa, oh,

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whoa whoa. No, just keep doing the thing that you

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are doing. And then as efficiencies are introduced, problems get addressed.

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And so now it's not like draining the budget. You

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get things short up, and then the private sector like, hey,

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you say, hey, I made a widget and the widget's

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working really well. It's why I call it well widgets

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or well working widgets. And now we're on sort of autopilot.

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And then you start looking to do other things and

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you start expanding, and then you lose sight of the

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core mission. And then every now and again it's important

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to come out and clear out the deadwood and refocus

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on the core service that you're supposed to be providing.

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So Trump comes in and there are all sorts of

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laws and stuff about civil service protections and the union

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and all this other stuff. But he says you got

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to come back to work or come back to the office.

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And you got federal employees that don't want to do it,

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and so this is their offer, like okay, And companies

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have done this over the last year. They've said, if

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you don't want to come back to the office, that's fine,

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here's a severance deal, right, And this deal that they

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are offering employees is eight months of pay. Eight months

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of pay and you don't even have to come back,

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just go here's a check for almost a year of

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work that you're not going to do, and truth told,

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you're probably not doing anyway. So like, here's a check

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buy and this I'm supposed to believe is outrageous. It

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is not outrageous, and in the long term, it's going

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to cost us less money. How many people take advantage

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of it? I don't know. Here's a great idea. How

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and make memories that'll last a lifetime. How we have done?

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Trump speaking now? Oh my gosh, more from the fire

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hose real, No, I can't drink anymore.

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Speaker 2: I remember who were set loose into our country by

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the last administration. We are deeply honored to be joined

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today by Lincoln's parents, Alison and John and her sister Lauren.

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Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is signing the Lake and Riley Act into law.

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This is the ceremony you're listening to.

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Speaker 2: So so we were together right after that happened, and

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it's a tremendous tribute to your daughter. What's taking place

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today that's all I can say. But so said, we

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have to be doing it at all. Thank you very

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much for being here. To Lacoln's family. We will keep

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Lincoln's memory alive in our hearts forever, Everyone's hearts. With

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today's action, her name will also live forever in the

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laws of our country. And this is a very important law.

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This is something that has brought Democrats and Republicans together.

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That's not easy to do. Lincoln, Lacoln did it. America

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will never ever forget Lacln. Hope Riley, the vicious criminal

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who murdered precious Lacan, was an illegal alien member of

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the barbaric Venezuela in prison gang known as Trendy or Ragua.

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He trespassed across our southern border in twenty twenty two

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and was apprehended by border patrol, but under the cruel

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policies of the last administration, instead of being deported as

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he should have been, he was released into the United States,

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as were millions of other people, many of them very

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dangerous people. And you see what we're doing. We're getting

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the hell out of here. He was soon arrested again

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in New York City charges of endangering a child, but

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because of New York City's deadly sanctuary policies, as we

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have in California and many other places which we're ending.

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We're going to end them. He was released again to reoffend.

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The Biden administration then provided this illegal alien criminal with

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a free taxpayer funded flight from New York to Georgia,

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where he was arrested yet again constantly, this time for

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stealing from a walmart along with his gang member brother

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who was a bad one. Only after being released a

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third time by the US law enforcement did this cold

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blooded criminal go out and that fateful morning hunting for

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women on whom to pray. That's what he did. He hunted,

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He hunted. It was like a hunter. I'm going to

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show them who the hunter is. This horrific atrocity should

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never have been allowed to happen, and as President, I'm

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fighting every single day to ensure that such a tragedy

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never happened again. You don't want this to happen, and

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under the law factor, under the law I'm signing today,

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the Department of Homeland Security will be required to detain

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all illegal aliens who have been arrested for theft, burglary,

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larcity shoplifting, assaulting a police officer, murder, or any crime

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that results in death or a serious injury. In addition,

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for the first time ever, this Act gives state governments

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the ability to sue the federal government for immediate injunctive

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relief if any future administration ever again refuses to enforce

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the immigration laws of the United States like happens.

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Speaker 1: And that, my friends, that's the key. That's the key

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of the Lake and Riley Act. I know the critics

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are focusing on oh jantee immigrant and alist. The key

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here is that states will be able to sue the

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federal government if the federal government isn't doing its freaking job,

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which they only they are empowered to do. Remember, Democrats

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sued and they argued all the way through the courts

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that you can't force us to follow federal immigration law.

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When Texas started doing their stuff right with the floating

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barriers and trying to put patrol along the border, and

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they were like, you can't do that. That's our job.

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We're supposed to be in Texas Like, well, you're not

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doing it. They're like, so what, you can't do it either,

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we don't want it done. That's the position they took

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and they were successful, and so now this law not

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an executive order, this is now a law. Now people

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or states will have standing to sue the Feds if

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they do that again. All right, I hope you had

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those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get them transferred?

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So the Trump administration announces that it is offering buyouts

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to all federal employees who wish to leave their job,

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which is basically all of them, I think by next week,

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so they're on a deadline. A memo from THEPM not

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to be confused with the OMB okay, that is a

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different thing. That was their memo that they sent out

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that caused all the hullabaloo. This is another government agency,

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the Office of Personnel Management, which, by the way, did

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you hear this story too? That I don't have anything

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printed down on it, but I saw it. I read

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a little bit about it, where like there was some

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some employees, some federal workers, and I don't know, they

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may have gone through their union or something to complain

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at the suggestion that the administration wants to be able

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to send messages directly to all workers rather than having

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to send them to an agency first and then rely

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on that agency head or whoever's in charge of the

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email distribution, which is probably a freaking standalone position, but

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they send it to them in every agency and then

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have them distribute. And so they're like, why don't we

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just have one big distribution list and will send it

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to everybody. We want to be able to send it

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to everybody, And they're like, you can't talk to me directly.

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Try to pull that at your gig, right, do you

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think your boss would put up with that? I don't

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know about you. Every place I have ever worked, the

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top person in the company has always been able to

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directly email everybody all at once mass distribution list. They've

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even been able to email me personally if they so choose,

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But they never know who I am. So like they

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could just send me an email like Pete heard your show,

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you stink Like they could have just done that, but

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nobody ever did. Maybe I don't stink that could be it,

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or they don't know I exist, they don't listen that

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either way. But the idea that I got to go

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through as a boss, I would have to go through

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different layers of protection. I can't take an email directly

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from the boss. I might feel anxiety if I get

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a message from the top man because he's orange and

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he's scary. So anyway, a memo from the OPM, the

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Office of Personnel Management, which is the government's HR agency,

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said that it would begin subjecting all federal employees also

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to quote enhanced standards of suitability and conduct enhanced standards

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like wait, did you say standards? I'm out? And then,

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according to the AP, it ominously warned of future downsizing

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ominously What I say the other day talking about media bias,

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whenever you're reading a story or listening to a story,

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look for or listen for the adjectives that are used.

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That will tell you what the sentiment of the reporter is,

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right when they are ominously warning of future downsizing rather

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than just warning of future downsizing or telling employees to

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expect future downsizing. Now, look here, I have to acknowledge

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I have a bias. I say this about a great

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many different types of work out there that because I

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work in radio, I have worked in radio for twenty

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plus years, and I might not have the softest shoulder

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to cry upon when it comes to this stuff. Okay,

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because in my industry, and really I mean accept probably

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in the mortuary services and probably tax preparation, the threat

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of downsizing is always there. Talk to some of the

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people that work in manufacturing about whether or not they

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think that their job could be eliminated at any given moment.

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Talk to all the mill workers and the families of

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the mill workers over the last oh I don't know

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forty years around the Carolinas right whether their jobs were

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safe from downsizing. I know, I know media learned to code.

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Blah blah blah. The email was sent out to millions

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of employees and said those who leave their posts voluntarily

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will receive about eight months of salary, but they have

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to choose to take the deal by February sixth, which

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I was just say this to somebody yesterday. I don't

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like the arbitrary deadlines for these types of big decisions.

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I don't appreciate that, but I understand these are tools

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in negotiations. It is like you go into the car

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dealership and they're like, oh, I can give you this offer,

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but you got to do it now. Like, no, you don't.

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If you're making me this offer, you can make that

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offer any given day of the week. It's just that

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you want this sale right now, and you think that

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by giving me a fake deadline, you will increase the

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pressure on me. To say yes. So usually it does

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the opposite to me. It makes me want to say

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no because now I know that i'm the mark. Why

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didn't you just give me this deal and let me

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think about it. If it's a great deal, I'm going

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to come back and say yes. But when you say

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you got to decide before you leave the showroom, that

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I say, okay, well then I'm leaving right now. Bye.

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You just made my decision for me. There's another when

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I learned a whole bunch of these things, Like one

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of them is called the silent treatment, where you just

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sit there and when someone's like trying to pitch you

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or or you know, give you prices on stuff, and

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you just sit there and you don't say anything, just

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keep staring at him, maybe do a little bit of

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a squint, like a half squint hmm, And then it

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becomes uncomfortable for them, so then they counter themselves. And

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then there's another one the you can do better than that.

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I don't know what it's called, but that's that's what

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you say. And you can just change your tone of

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voice as you say these things. I learned this from

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a guy he wrote wrote several books. Weekend Millionaire series,

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Mike Summy up in Ashville, Millionaire Guy, and I would

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have him on the show and we would talk, and

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he wrote about these things in his books, and one

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of the tactics that he talked about was he and

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one time he went in to buy a car and

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he literally just sat there and he said, Oh, you

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could do better than that. He said it like half

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a dozen times, back to back to back to back

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to back to back, and the guy just kept low

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balling himself, which sounds kind of gross, but you know,

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he just kept undercutting his own price because he could

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do better than that. And Mike, he said, I would

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just change the tone of voice. I would say it

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in different inflection, you know, Oh, come on, you can

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do better than that, or you could do better than that.

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You could do better than that. And he just keeps

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saying it, so it sounds like a new sentence and

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it's not a new sentence. So there are ways to

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count to these things anyway. So the false deadline, the

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arbitrary deadlines, I tend to not like and I react poorly,

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but I know this about myself. Self awareness is essential.

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The email was sent to more than two million federal employees.

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The federal government employees more than three million people, so

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two out of three people got this email. Basically, By

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the way, the average tenure for a federal employee is

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almost twelve years that according to a Pew analysis of

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data from the OPM. And then we get to the

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speculative fear mongering over at the Associated Press story that

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the sky is falling if people take this option, if

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they take the buyout, what will we ever do again?

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Same reaction when Twitter said they were doing this and

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they fired a bunch of people, gave them early exit

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packages and the like. There have been companies that have

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done this. They're still in business. In fact, they're doing better.

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They do better. You don't want some of the people

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that take these severance deals, are these options? They weren't

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really doing bang up work to begin with. All right,

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if you're listening to this show, you know I try

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to keep up with all sorts of current events, and

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I know you do too. And you've probably heard me

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say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because

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it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've

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been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and

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it's a website. And it combines news from around the

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You can check it out at check dot ground, dot

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description too. I started using ground News a few months

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make the media landscape more transparent. Okay, char let's take James.

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Hello James, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Hey Pete. Thanks, good to hear you. Yeah, I'm delighted

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to hear you talking about making comparisons in the business

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world what Truck's trying to implement with the government. Because

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I've worked for a manufacturer for thirty eight years, I've

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seen rounds of trimming and job reduction, and you're right.

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Usually it's people that you knew weren't hitting on much.

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There's exceptions, but they're usually the ones that have to go.

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And then budgeting is interesting too because there's a lot

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of discussion about that with the government. But every year,

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if your department had a budget, you could just count

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on a five percent cut every year and every third year.

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We would do zero based budgeting, where you start with

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a clean slate and you justify every single bucket that

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you need to function for that year. And we were

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a profitable company, and that's how it's done. And the

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government do you remember a few years ago when they

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talked about eliminating Saturday delivery for the mail service. You

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talk about a no brainer. They couldn't even do that.

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In fact, they could probably cut it out Tuesdays, Thursdays

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and Saturdays and reduce the size of the postal service

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seventy percent. No one would notice, but they won't do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no. Zero based budgeting would be a massive

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change to the way government functions versus what is currently used,

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which is continuation budgeting, where whatever we spent last year

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carries over to this year, continues over and then you know,

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we obviously have to increase by you know, cost of

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living and inflation and everything else. And so it's just

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this natural, built in mechanism to keep the agencies growing

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and growing and growing, and there's never any kind of

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a fresh look at the numbers to say is this

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even doing its job? Is this is this accomplishing the mission.

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Speaker 3: It's just discipline and you know, and whenever we had

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to face you're right, the cost of everything goes up.

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But also after you've done things for a year or two,

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you realize you have to prioritize and like, all right,

484
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this bucket went up five percent, but man, I'm going

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to take it out of this thing that we don't

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even do anymore. And then then that's how it's no

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different than you run your household. You just you just

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have discipline and you spend on what's important and you

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don't spend just because yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like okay, think of it. Like all of

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the apps, right, people pay for various uh, you know,

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video streaming, television apps, and at some point you realize like,

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oh my gosh, this thing is auto drafting every single

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month for nine to ninety nine, and you add them

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all together and before you know it, you know, you're

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spending one hundred dollars on apps that you don't even watch.

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So you go through and you're like, cancel, cancel, cancel.

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I don't want these apps anymore. It's the same same

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sort of approach, same idea, and then it's the ones you.

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Speaker 3: Care about go up five percent. You got it.

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Speaker 1: Covered, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, James, I appreciate the call, buddy,

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thank you. Yeah, man, all right, take it easy. This

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is this is interesting too. I just saw Elon Musk

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tweeted out or xed out, tweeted out support for Trump's

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executive orders and proposed actions. And let's see the one

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with the let me see delaying Oh here is uh wait,

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no ending federal effort, no birthright citizenship MM, Gulf of

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Mexico not very popular to call it the Gulf of America.

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Closing all Yeah, so closing all federal government DEI offices

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and firing all federal employees working in DEI initiatives as

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a forty four percent support rate fifty one percent to

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pose and that's like, yeah, that's the highest, tied with

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delaying the ban of TikTok. And then I got an

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e or a Yeah, I got a message here from Ashley.

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It's a Pete tweet. Ashley says, I just wanted to

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let you know that. On Glenn Beck's program this morning,

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he stated that federal employees percentage at home rate was

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ninety six percent. Okay, So if I understand that correctly,

519
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ninety six percent of federal workers are working at home,

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that seems very very high. Not unbelievable, that's very high.

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It's like at that point, who's in the office. Who's

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the schlub that's actually going into the office at all?

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Think about that, you haven't You got an office of

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one hundred workers and four of them are showing up.

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That's crazy. So even this is the ap even a

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fraction of the workforce, were they to accept the buyouts here,

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it is speculative, could send shock waves through the economy

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and trigger widespread disruptions throughout society as a whole. Oh

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my gosh, wait a minute, they're getting eight months of

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pay for not working. Couldn't they, I don't know, take

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the money that they're getting for the eight months worth

532
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of pay and maybe travel around and wouldn't that boost tourism?

533
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What about the economic multipliers? We always hear about the

534
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multiplier effect. Whenever they want to tax us to build

535
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,759
sports arenas in Stadia, they're like, oh, but the multiplier effect.

536
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:27,359
These people are coming and spending money and blah blah blah.

537
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Where is that these people are? Now? This is I thought,

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this is what Democrats wanted. That's why we got Obamacare.

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Remember Nancy Pelosi, She's like, now they'll be able to

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go be artists and stuff and stuff, and they don't

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have to worry about paying for their health insurance. They'll

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be free to create what maybe maybe we get Pelosi

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to lead this branding effort. Right, let's free the federal

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workforce up to go and paint. They can join Hunter Biden,

545
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who now has to paint a lot more because all

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this pain burned up in California worth billions of dollars.

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As I understand it, he submitted an insurance claim. Yeah so,

548
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but they do acknowledge the AP acknowledges that that all

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of this the shock waves throughout the society, bringing us

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to our knees in eight months. It could trigger wide

551
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ranging and as yet unknowable implications for the delivery, timeliness,

552
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,079
and effectiveness of federal services across the nation. And I

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would just submit. Okay, yeah, all right, let's see what

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it looks like. That's I'm okay with this. Yes, I

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will run the experiment. Let's run this experiment and see

556
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what happens. I'm down, all right. That'll do it for

557
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,639
this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could

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not do the show without your support and the support

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00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,800
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561
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,000
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563
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,840
thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

564
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,480
while I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: M hm.

