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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna bring in Kyle Van Noy coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen minutes. We're down here in support of his charity,

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<v Speaker 1>down here in sport of his foundation. So Kyle's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call in where the Black Desert Resorts. Our next guest

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<v Speaker 1>knows a thing or two about the Black Desert Resort.

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<v Speaker 1>I guy Richard Smith on a Monday, Smitty, Happy Monday, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you Stancio? The guy I would know would

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<v Speaker 2>get down there the Black Desert and get right on

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<v Speaker 2>the first tee. I love it. I love it, man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great. It was a great day. It was

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<v Speaker 3>about eighty five degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's eighty five degrees in June and Saint George,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing something right. So Smitty, let's get into it

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<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna have to cut this one short.

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<v Speaker 3>We're certainly gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you back this week and you're gonna be part

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<v Speaker 1>of our draft coverage on both Wednesday and Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have an NBA champ. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your reactions to Game seven and what this

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<v Speaker 1>means for both the interim and the future of Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was well learned by them. You know, they played,

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<v Speaker 2>they were the best team all year long, and they

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<v Speaker 2>played well during the playoffs. Obviously they had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of Game seven they had to get through, but that

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<v Speaker 2>tested their medal as a very young team, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have to give them all the all

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<v Speaker 2>the credit, you know. I thought Sam Preston was interesting

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<v Speaker 2>in post game remarks last night on on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the days there they were giving out the trophy that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I could tell them in the in in

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<v Speaker 2>some of his comments just indirectly that you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not I wouldn't take surprise, but they're they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>pleasantly shocked at the growth that they've had and the

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<v Speaker 2>season they had came together the way it did. And

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<v Speaker 2>then of course fortune plays a good part in it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also maybe the biggest thing is they had they

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<v Speaker 2>had pretty good health all year long and throughout the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I think they're there are surprises anybody that

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<v Speaker 2>their unit came together just quickly over a couple of years, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and that they were able to push through some tough

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<v Speaker 2>times during the playoffs and and achieve the ultimate goal.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's, uh, that's great for them, great young team

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<v Speaker 2>that works hard and and it's great to see a

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<v Speaker 2>team that really values defense be able to put that

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<v Speaker 2>on the front burner and and utilize that to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get them to the to the championship trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>So so kudos to Sam and all of this group

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<v Speaker 2>forgetting that done.

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<v Speaker 3>So excuse me, Smitty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of media members, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that cover the league, whether it's TV, radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast writing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know, we're pontificating on the possibilities of

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<v Speaker 1>what this means moving forward for the landscape of the

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<v Speaker 1>West and the and the landscape of the NBA. But

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<v Speaker 1>you worked in the front office for the Utah Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>for four decades, so you can kind of help us.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand exactly what it looks like. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as how they kind of keep this thing ticking,

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<v Speaker 1>what could get in the way?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>The new collective bargaining Agreement kind of UH, by design

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to stand in the way of dynasties. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you just look at their books, they have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these players together for at least two years. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like this for at least two years,

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<v Speaker 1>barring something completely unforeseen. So how sustainable is this as

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<v Speaker 1>far as what Sam has built and you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be challenges they could get in their way sooner

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<v Speaker 1>rather than later.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they had such a great season, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it spensus because they were young, they were excited

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<v Speaker 2>for each other. They were having this kind of success

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<v Speaker 2>that they hadn't had as a group before, and so

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was on the same boat, going in the same direction.

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<v Speaker 2>And they they played that up a lot whenever they

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<v Speaker 2>were on national TV having the postgame interview of one player,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole team would come out and be part

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and they were trying to show everybody we're

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<v Speaker 2>all one and where we support each other and all

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<v Speaker 2>that which is great. And that's the old lah Rah

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<v Speaker 2>College field, which is what they had as a team.

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<v Speaker 2>But as happens in any any league of professional sports,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, money will get in the way, and

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<v Speaker 2>also egos will will will challenge to get in the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's going to be one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have as a group to have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>and try and figure out as they go forward, is

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<v Speaker 2>who is really in this for the benefit of the group,

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding that as the group does better, I individually do

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<v Speaker 2>better or are you going to get a scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>some guys' heads start getting a little bit bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>they deserve to be and they start feeling that they're

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to use the phrase bigger than the program,

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<v Speaker 2>and they start feeling their oats a little bit. That's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the challenge, because it's it's all fun

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<v Speaker 2>and games now because you're one and you're young, and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really expected, you know, a year ago or

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago, and you got here quicker than you expected. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>can you keep up that same level of enthusiasm? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you keep up the same level of energy, especially defensively

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<v Speaker 2>as a team where you're counting on each other. And

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<v Speaker 2>then of course the guys who are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>up for extensions and guys who are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>up for raises, you know, then that's going to play

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<v Speaker 2>into it because at some point Oklahoma City is going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to make decisions between A and B and

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<v Speaker 2>unless they want to go into that first or second apron,

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<v Speaker 2>which we see teams like Phoenix and teams like Boston

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<v Speaker 2>are in the Golden state right now, where those teams

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fell short. Obviously in the case of Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even make the playoffs, but they're paying so much

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<v Speaker 2>money in the luxury packs and punitive penalties that it

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't make it sustainable. So those are the issues

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<v Speaker 2>that an Oklahoma City team is going to be facing.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things they have in their back

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<v Speaker 2>pocket that a lot of teams don't is that they,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're press super been very smart this point, and

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<v Speaker 2>they back line a lot of upcoming draft picks in

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<v Speaker 2>future years that they can either use to go get

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<v Speaker 2>another Jalen Williams or find another guy, you know, another

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<v Speaker 2>a guard or a guy that wants to play defense

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<v Speaker 2>in the back court through the draft, and they can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hedge their bets that way and bring in

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<v Speaker 2>a new guy every year to mix in with their group.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be interesting to see the thing, to see

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<v Speaker 2>how they manage all of those opportunities that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the other side, Smittye, you know the cruelty

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<v Speaker 1>that oftentimes sports manifests.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like a gut punch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm certainly no Indiana Pacer fan, but man, did

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad seeing Tyree Saliburton go down and we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew what it was because we all discussed the

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<v Speaker 1>Durant parallels or other parallels. We've got Tatum, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Dame Lillard, we have all these caf strains to turn

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<v Speaker 1>into Achilles, and again not a doctor. It just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe we need to look at this a little closer,

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<v Speaker 1>letting these guys play when they're so compromised. So two

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<v Speaker 1>part question, what did you make of this great run

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<v Speaker 1>from those Indiana Pacers? And you know your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the Halliburton injury. It's just super gunning, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you flicked back to several years ago, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the drama that was around Donovan Mitchell with the

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<v Speaker 2>Jazz and when the playoffs started several years ago, when

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<v Speaker 2>when the Jazz medical group held him out of Game

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<v Speaker 2>one against Memphis because they didn't think he was ready.

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<v Speaker 2>All their testing showed that, and he wanted to play,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot of internal discussion, debate arguing whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>however you want to couch it about, you know, him

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<v Speaker 2>going out there and the Jazz you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>basically say to him, look, why do you think we

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<v Speaker 2>would have you stay out of a playoff game when

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<v Speaker 2>we need you in the playoffs unless we thought it

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<v Speaker 2>could potentially hurt you, and he wasn't buying it at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and and that that led to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the discord that was behind the scenes. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>led to the ultimate decision to trade him, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least his feelings about the Jazz going forward in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was that was a real thing that the

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<v Speaker 2>Jazz are trying to protect him from himself. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>look at what happened to Kevin Durant several years ago

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<v Speaker 2>the Golden State and the argument about whether he should

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<v Speaker 2>have been on the court then or not when he

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<v Speaker 2>when he got hurt in the in the playoffs, or

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<v Speaker 2>now this thing with Haliburton, whether you should be playing

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<v Speaker 2>or not. Of course you're you're sitting in the locker

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<v Speaker 2>room and you're with your medical staff fence and at

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<v Speaker 2>the game seven of the NBA Finals, and you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at each other, and I can guarantee the player is going,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you guys even talking about? This is what

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<v Speaker 2>we do all year long, but this one night, this game,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not sitting now, I'm going out and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing whatever I can and we just lay it

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<v Speaker 2>out there and we see what happened, and the ball

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<v Speaker 2>went the wrong way for them, and this happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's going to affect them next year certainly, and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know how it's going to be going forward

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<v Speaker 2>after that. But how about Halliburton A. Lillard paid them

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<v Speaker 2>all in the East major players for their teams all

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<v Speaker 2>go out with the same injury. It's devastating and it

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<v Speaker 2>really looks you have to start looking at things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the workload and what you do in the off

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<v Speaker 2>season conditioning and are guys just playing too much? Do

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<v Speaker 2>they not give them enough rest? And I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about during the season, I'm talking about in the off

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<v Speaker 2>season when they have workout regimens and all those kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things that really have to you know, the people

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<v Speaker 2>have to start looking deeper into how those things really

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<v Speaker 2>affect players and a law term basis.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it's Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Since you and I last spoke, you know, we all

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the potential of Phoenix doing something because it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like they had to, and they did, and they sent

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets in exchange for Jalen Green,

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Brooks the number ten pick this year and five

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<v Speaker 1>second rounders, just both sides. Your thoughts on this transaction.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it mean for Houston, what does it mean

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<v Speaker 1>for the Phoenix Suns.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's something that both sides felt like

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<v Speaker 2>was going to benefit them. Look, Phoenix that had Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a terrific year. He's an all start obviously

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<v Speaker 2>in a future Hall of Famer, but they didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>get in the playoffs with him performing that way, so

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<v Speaker 2>that part doesn't matter to Phoenix. They felt they had

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<v Speaker 2>to move him for the for the salary number, for

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<v Speaker 2>the for the financial constraints that they had backed themselves

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<v Speaker 2>into with the new owner signing off on all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't matter to them whether they got these

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<v Speaker 2>players who might help them, whether it's Green or Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>or the tenth pick, or if it's just two second

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<v Speaker 2>rounders they got. They had to do something with Durant,

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<v Speaker 2>So you get him out of there, you get him

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of flexibility financially. More going forward, I

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<v Speaker 2>to use, and the second round pick probably don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Smitty, before I set you loose, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just a thought on five, Smitty will be part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Gordy Chiasis.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay tuned for that Thursday or excum me Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>But as we sit here today on this Monday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>at four sixteen Mountain time, have you landed on the prospect?

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<v Speaker 1>You think that JAS should look at the most at

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's a several different guys, several different

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<v Speaker 2>things for you as a multi positional player in the

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<v Speaker 2>kid Bailey from Rutgers. So they got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different ways to look at it. Some of it will

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<v Speaker 2>unless they try and move up that they really like someone,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have the worst defense in the league the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years. So for me, you know, someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Edgecombe who's a really a hard nosed defender and

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<v Speaker 2>also supposedly a terrific young guy off the floor, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he turns into one of your Donovan Mitchell type

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<v Speaker 2>his athletic ability, his ability to play both ends of

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<v Speaker 2>a team that really really needs some in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll be interesting to see what direction they go in.

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<v Speaker 2>Come come Wednesday, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Sneak in one more while we're waiting to connect with

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Smithy. You know, as far as the potential of

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<v Speaker 1>moving on from veteran players, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it would surprise anybody Fostin Ainge decided to clean house

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I just wondered the dynamic of Austin

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<v Speaker 1>coming in a guy who didn't make the Mitchell trade,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who didn't make the go Bear trade, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who didn't acquire Walker, a guy who didn't acquire Lowry,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who didn't draft Kiance or Isaiah or I

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<v Speaker 1>could keep going, the guy that had zero say in

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<v Speaker 1>any of the transactions so far. What sort of dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>does that create as far as the direction they could

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<v Speaker 1>take concerning their decision making process.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the interesting thing, Spence is going to be that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with austen As coming in, you know, Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Smith and the ownership group of the Jazz and made

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<v Speaker 2>a bold move in my opinion, of bringing in a

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<v Speaker 2>new main voice, the leader, the decision maker of your

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<v Speaker 2>group three weeks before the draft. And so these guys

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<v Speaker 2>for the Jazz, the scouts, the personnel guys who have

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<v Speaker 2>been out scouting these guys all year long, literally all

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<v Speaker 2>around the world. And there are a lot of international

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<v Speaker 2>players who will come into the mix as well. All

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys have been working in tandem with each

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<v Speaker 2>other all year long and had a certain direction, in

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<v Speaker 2>a certain vibe, a certain tenor to what they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what to do come this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they bring a new guy into the room,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not only a new voice within the group,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's the decision maker. And so now you got

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the room who hasn't worked with him before,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously other than his dad, Danny Ainge and all those

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<v Speaker 2>other people are going to be trying to figure out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how do we maneuver this, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>do this that makes sense for the organization. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so there could be some jump start stops kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing where where people aren't sure you know, what the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions are that are going on or how they're being made,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, but you're exactly right. Austin Angel isn't

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<v Speaker 2>married to anybody on this roster. The roster is is

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<v Speaker 2>flawed in a lot of ways, and they had the

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<v Speaker 2>worst record in the league. They were one of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst defensive teams the last couple of years, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to protect. He really is coming in with the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that whatever I can do, in my opinion, to

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<v Speaker 2>get this thing going in the right direction, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, Which means everybody's in play in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of players, and all the draft picks are in play

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of moving up, moving back, moving out, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on what I can get done, and so that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting to see how he sees it and

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<v Speaker 2>how he goes forward with his decision making process as we.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue to wait for Kyle Smidy. If you're okay with it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll continue to ask your question so he can just

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<v Speaker 1>keep the conversation going and as soon as he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, we'll see if we can just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>transition over. But let me ask you about Fears, the

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah Fears kid, because there's reporting that the Jazz have

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<v Speaker 1>worked him out multiple times, They've interviewed him multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>In Jonathan Cavoni, the ESPN's draft analyst, has him.

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<v Speaker 3>At five to the Jazz. Now, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to like.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly, there's also the you know, the element where he

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<v Speaker 1>is six' two and The jazz needs size badly on the.

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<v Speaker 1>PERIMETER i, Mean keyante And isaiah neither are big enough

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<v Speaker 1>to guard some of the bigger wings in pro. Basketball, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>again only because there's reporting around, it your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the potential of The jazz landing On Jeremiah years at, Five,

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<v Speaker 1>well if they if.

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<v Speaker 2>They're looking at him and they think that he's a

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<v Speaker 2>good enough. Playmaker with the ball in his. Hands he can.

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<v Speaker 2>Create you can get out of picking, rolls you can

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<v Speaker 2>get in the, lane you can create some things to

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<v Speaker 2>happen that way like you did In. Oklahoma. Uh you,

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<v Speaker 2>know then then that's a good place to look. At you,

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<v Speaker 2>know they have to they have a lot of holes

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<v Speaker 2>they have to. Fill you, know certainly that position is. One,

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<v Speaker 2>uh but they have to they have to really be

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable and confident that he's the kind of. Guy you,

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<v Speaker 2>know this. Group you not only need a player in my,

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<v Speaker 2>opinion who has a certain skill level and a certain

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<v Speaker 2>that they could bring to your, group BUT i believe

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get someone to add to the group

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<v Speaker 2>who has some kind of a leadership quality and. Ability

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<v Speaker 2>and if they've interviewed him more than once and the

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<v Speaker 2>visit with them and talk to people that can always

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<v Speaker 2>do behind the hut, scenes and they've made the determination

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<v Speaker 2>that he can be a leader type group Like, halliburton

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<v Speaker 2>who's shown, up you, know TO, tv one of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys Or Guildess, alexander the kind of guy who maybe

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't seen that way when they came out of college

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<v Speaker 2>and they were a little question marks about those guys

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<v Speaker 2>and how they could do. That but once they got

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<v Speaker 2>their footing under them and, stuff we see what kind

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<v Speaker 2>OF nba players they can. Be if they determined that

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<v Speaker 2>he has that kind of leadership quality and approach to his,

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<v Speaker 2>business you, know THEN i can see them making that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a decision if they think that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>help the growth of their team going.

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<v Speaker 1>FORWARD i know you like The watch, Kids, SMITTY i

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<v Speaker 1>wonder you, know ultimately to your, point and we've talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>this AND i agree with, you they need.

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<v Speaker 1>Need BUT i suppose there's a world that if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to ride with marketing And, kessler you could, Say,

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<v Speaker 1>okay well maybe they've got a front.

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<v Speaker 3>Court that they like and you don't really need to

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<v Speaker 3>add to.

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<v Speaker 1>IT i guess if you Like, malawatch you think he's

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<v Speaker 1>the best player at, five you take him at. Five

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<v Speaker 1>but because they Have, kessler do you think that dissuades

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<v Speaker 1>them from looking At malawatch at?

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<v Speaker 2>FIVE i, Could but you, know Against BET's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that comes into play all the. Time the

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<v Speaker 2>people don't talk. Enough and we just mentioned a minute

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<v Speaker 2>ago with the okayc situation going, forward is that The

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<v Speaker 2>jazz will be making some decisions also based on finances

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<v Speaker 2>and based on what makes sense money. WISE i Like

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<v Speaker 2>kessler AND, i you, KNOW i think those two guys

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<v Speaker 2>really you play well. Together they they make a good,

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<v Speaker 2>tandem you. Know but the money you're going to be paying,

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<v Speaker 2>them you, know going, forward and and what the production

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<v Speaker 2>is you get your team the bottom, Line sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>have to weigh those things and, say, well maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>just do a restart and if we get someone like

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<v Speaker 2>the kid From duke AND, i you, know he's a

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<v Speaker 2>long way, away you, know Like rudy was when he

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<v Speaker 2>first came. Out BUT i just like some of his

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<v Speaker 2>instincts and some of his mobility and his. Energy he

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<v Speaker 2>plays with for a long. Guy you, know if he

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<v Speaker 2>could develop into something like, that then you're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>guy on a much cheaper contract than what you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to end up paying For, kessler you, know to

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<v Speaker 2>do what he does the next several, years if and

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<v Speaker 2>when you decide to give him an, extension so with

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<v Speaker 2>him and, marketing those could be two rather significant numbers

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<v Speaker 2>on your. Payroll if you're still in a developing stage

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<v Speaker 2>with your team and you're really don't expect you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to compete in The Western conference the

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<v Speaker 2>next several. Years, anyway then then there's a scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>you discussed maybe we just restarted again and we Move,

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<v Speaker 2>kessler and we bring in someone like like a kid

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<v Speaker 2>From duke to take that spot at a much cheaper,

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<v Speaker 2>number and you do something with marketing and get off

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<v Speaker 2>that number and bring in somebody, else and and and

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<v Speaker 2>you retool it that way and save your money for

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<v Speaker 2>when that really makes sense for guys that can really

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<v Speaker 2>make a difference in in your group going. Forward but

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<v Speaker 2>those are tough decisions to. Make but those are all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that the guys are weighing behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>that they need to try to figure. Out And Austin

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<v Speaker 2>ange will bring a different perspective of, that especially coming

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<v Speaker 2>from The boston scenario where where he got out the

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<v Speaker 2>back door from having to deal help deal with THE

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<v Speaker 2>uh close to five hundred million dollar salary and taxes and,

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<v Speaker 2>penalties the same eltics you're looking at next.

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<v Speaker 1>Year BEFORE i say you LOSE, SIMITTI i have more

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<v Speaker 1>of a general question for, you just to have you

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<v Speaker 1>help us understand what things like a really good young

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<v Speaker 1>team In Oklahoma city means for decision making of a

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<v Speaker 1>team like The Utah jazz or you, know really good

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities For San antonio to grow pretty. Quickly and of

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<v Speaker 1>Course dallas now with the number one overall, pick because

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<v Speaker 1>as you AND i discussed, before when you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>building up The mitchell Go bear teams With quinn as

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<v Speaker 1>the head, coach WHEN i would analyze the roster construct

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<v Speaker 1>and WHEN i would analyze the, TEAM i would do

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<v Speaker 1>it through the prism Of, okay who is in.

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<v Speaker 3>Their prime right? Now and how? Long and Tell steph Isn't?

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<v Speaker 3>Steph how long Until lebron is A?

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron and when that time, comes Will, Donovan, Rudy mike

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<v Speaker 1>boyon that? Group will they be able to capitalize on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Window and now it just feels like with all the

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<v Speaker 1>youth And Oklahoma, city all the draft capital In San,

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Victor, Wemban i'm A cooper, flag the climb to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the mountain for The jazz does not

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's any time within the next, honestly five,

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<v Speaker 1>six seven. YEARS i know that sounds, dire but how

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<v Speaker 1>do those dynamics color the perspective of decision making AN

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<v Speaker 1>nba front?

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<v Speaker 3>Offices BEFORE i say you.

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<v Speaker 2>Loose, yeah well you have to, again especially you have

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<v Speaker 2>to factor in the things that you can, control which

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<v Speaker 2>is like coming up On wednesday And thursday the. Draft

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<v Speaker 2>how did they handle the? Draft who are the guys they?

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<v Speaker 2>Evaluate how did they get those? Players you, know OK,

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<v Speaker 2>c for, example pick number eight a few years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and they settle On Jalen williams and that that was

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<v Speaker 2>a big win for. Them they got that one. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay The jazz last year had the number ten pick

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<v Speaker 2>and they Picked Jalen williams, Brother Cody, williams who you,

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<v Speaker 2>know in his first year was a NON nba, player

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<v Speaker 2>and you can even argue that he was hardly A

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<v Speaker 2>G league. Player so you, know the jury will still

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<v Speaker 2>be out on. That that's going to take several years

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<v Speaker 2>to figure that. Out i'm not sure he is AN nba.

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<v Speaker 2>GUY i don't think he has the skill level and

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<v Speaker 2>just the mindset that his brother has to play. Defensively

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll, see you, know maybe he maturns into. That

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<v Speaker 2>but those are the decisions you have to. Make and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have to have things like happened To dallas

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<v Speaker 2>last month in the draft, lottery where you're not expecting,

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<v Speaker 2>it but you get something falls in your lap and

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<v Speaker 2>you get the ability to draft supposedly A Cooper flag

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<v Speaker 2>and add him to your. Group The jazz have to

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<v Speaker 2>have something like that or something that just happened With

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<v Speaker 2>houston to get a team that wants to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>Of Kevin durant and you get in on that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a sweet stake and add somebody like. That so

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things spent are the things that you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at to build while you're looking at all the

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<v Speaker 2>tough teams in The west that you're still can eating.

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<v Speaker 2>Against one of those things you can, control which is

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<v Speaker 2>the draft and how you develop those. Players but the

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<v Speaker 2>other things you can't. Control something happening that falls in your,

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<v Speaker 2>lap or another team that's trying to make a move

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<v Speaker 2>of some sort that you can benefit. From those are

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you know there's not a timing on

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<v Speaker 2>that it might happen next, year it might happen two

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<v Speaker 2>years from, now it may never happen because of the

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<v Speaker 2>time and. Circumstances and so The jazz by dismantling the

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<v Speaker 2>team several years ago and trying to go this route

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<v Speaker 2>or finding out how difficult it is to build a

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<v Speaker 2>team and how difficult it is to. Compete And i'm

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<v Speaker 2>in agreement with. YOU i think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a long road for them and it's going to be very.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough but they have to have some things fall their

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<v Speaker 2>way and and good fortune happened to, them which so

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<v Speaker 2>far has not. Occurred and so there you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go all, Right, Smithy, WELL i appreciate the. Time we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you in studio this week for our hour long

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<v Speaker 1>hit and then excited to spend some time with you

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Draft wednesday And.

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday thank, you my, friend be safe with chat, soon all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, man look forward to, It Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Bud all, Right Richard. Smith we are live today at

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<v Speaker 1>the golf course is in such great. Shape and we're

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