Speaker 1: We're gonna bring in Kyle Van Noy coming up in
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. We're down here in support of his charity,
Speaker 1: down here in sport of his foundation. So Kyle's gonna
Speaker 1: call in where the Black Desert Resorts. Our next guest
Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about the Black Desert Resort.
Speaker 1: I guy Richard Smith on a Monday, Smitty, Happy Monday, sir.
Speaker 2: How are you Stancio? The guy I would know would
Speaker 2: get down there the Black Desert and get right on
Speaker 2: the first tee. I love it. I love it, man.
Speaker 3: It was great. It was a great day. It was
Speaker 3: about eighty five degrees.
Speaker 1: And if it's eighty five degrees in June and Saint George,
Speaker 1: you're doing something right. So Smitty, let's get into it
Speaker 1: because we're gonna have to cut this one short.
Speaker 3: We're certainly gonna.
Speaker 1: Have you back this week and you're gonna be part
Speaker 1: of our draft coverage on both Wednesday and Thursday night.
Speaker 1: So we have an NBA champ. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 1: What are your reactions to Game seven and what this
Speaker 1: means for both the interim and the future of Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: Well, it was well learned by them. You know, they played,
Speaker 2: they were the best team all year long, and they
Speaker 2: played well during the playoffs. Obviously they had a couple
Speaker 2: of Game seven they had to get through, but that
Speaker 2: tested their medal as a very young team, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you have to give them all the all
Speaker 2: the credit, you know. I thought Sam Preston was interesting
Speaker 2: in post game remarks last night on on the on
Speaker 2: the days there they were giving out the trophy that
Speaker 2: you know, I could tell them in the in in
Speaker 2: some of his comments just indirectly that you know, they're
Speaker 2: not I wouldn't take surprise, but they're they're they're they're
Speaker 2: pleasantly shocked at the growth that they've had and the
Speaker 2: season they had came together the way it did. And
Speaker 2: then of course fortune plays a good part in it.
Speaker 2: And also maybe the biggest thing is they had they
Speaker 2: had pretty good health all year long and throughout the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and and I think they're there are surprises anybody that
Speaker 2: their unit came together just quickly over a couple of years, uh,
Speaker 2: and that they were able to push through some tough
Speaker 2: times during the playoffs and and achieve the ultimate goal.
Speaker 2: And that's, uh, that's great for them, great young team
Speaker 2: that works hard and and it's great to see a
Speaker 2: team that really values defense be able to put that
Speaker 2: on the front burner and and utilize that to be
Speaker 2: able to get them to the to the championship trophy.
Speaker 2: So so kudos to Sam and all of this group
Speaker 2: forgetting that done.
Speaker 3: So excuse me, Smitty.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of media members, a lot of
Speaker 1: people that cover the league, whether it's TV, radio.
Speaker 3: Podcast writing.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, we're pontificating on the possibilities of
Speaker 1: what this means moving forward for the landscape of the
Speaker 1: West and the and the landscape of the NBA. But
Speaker 1: you worked in the front office for the Utah Jazz
Speaker 1: for four decades, so you can kind of help us.
Speaker 3: Understand exactly what it looks like. Uh.
Speaker 1: As far as how they kind of keep this thing ticking,
Speaker 1: what could get in the way?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: The new collective bargaining Agreement kind of UH, by design
Speaker 1: is trying to stand in the way of dynasties. But
Speaker 1: if you just look at their books, they have all
Speaker 1: of these players together for at least two years. It's
Speaker 1: going to look like this for at least two years,
Speaker 1: barring something completely unforeseen. So how sustainable is this as
Speaker 1: far as what Sam has built and you think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be challenges they could get in their way sooner
Speaker 1: rather than later.
Speaker 2: Well, they had such a great season, and a lot
Speaker 2: of it spensus because they were young, they were excited
Speaker 2: for each other. They were having this kind of success
Speaker 2: that they hadn't had as a group before, and so
Speaker 2: everybody was on the same boat, going in the same direction.
Speaker 2: And they they played that up a lot whenever they
Speaker 2: were on national TV having the postgame interview of one player,
Speaker 2: and the whole team would come out and be part
Speaker 2: of it, and they were trying to show everybody we're
Speaker 2: all one and where we support each other and all
Speaker 2: that which is great. And that's the old lah Rah
Speaker 2: College field, which is what they had as a team.
Speaker 2: But as happens in any any league of professional sports,
Speaker 2: at some point, money will get in the way, and
Speaker 2: also egos will will will challenge to get in the way,
Speaker 2: and that's going to be one of the things that
Speaker 2: they'll have as a group to have to look at
Speaker 2: and try and figure out as they go forward, is
Speaker 2: who is really in this for the benefit of the group,
Speaker 2: Understanding that as the group does better, I individually do
Speaker 2: better or are you going to get a scenario where
Speaker 2: some guys' heads start getting a little bit bigger than
Speaker 2: they deserve to be and they start feeling that they're
Speaker 2: you know, to use the phrase bigger than the program,
Speaker 2: and they start feeling their oats a little bit. That's
Speaker 2: going to be the challenge, because it's it's all fun
Speaker 2: and games now because you're one and you're young, and
Speaker 2: it wasn't really expected, you know, a year ago or
Speaker 2: two years ago, and you got here quicker than you expected. Now,
Speaker 2: can you keep up that same level of enthusiasm? Can
Speaker 2: you keep up the same level of energy, especially defensively
Speaker 2: as a team where you're counting on each other. And
Speaker 2: then of course the guys who are going to be
Speaker 2: up for extensions and guys who are going to be
Speaker 2: up for raises, you know, then that's going to play
Speaker 2: into it because at some point Oklahoma City is going
Speaker 2: to have to make decisions between A and B and
Speaker 2: unless they want to go into that first or second apron,
Speaker 2: which we see teams like Phoenix and teams like Boston
Speaker 2: are in the Golden state right now, where those teams
Speaker 2: you know, fell short. Obviously in the case of Phoenix
Speaker 2: didn't even make the playoffs, but they're paying so much
Speaker 2: money in the luxury packs and punitive penalties that it
Speaker 2: just doesn't make it sustainable. So those are the issues
Speaker 2: that an Oklahoma City team is going to be facing.
Speaker 2: But one of the things they have in their back
Speaker 2: pocket that a lot of teams don't is that they,
Speaker 2: if they're press super been very smart this point, and
Speaker 2: they back line a lot of upcoming draft picks in
Speaker 2: future years that they can either use to go get
Speaker 2: another Jalen Williams or find another guy, you know, another
Speaker 2: a guard or a guy that wants to play defense
Speaker 2: in the back court through the draft, and they can
Speaker 2: kind of hedge their bets that way and bring in
Speaker 2: a new guy every year to mix in with their group.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be interesting to see the thing, to see
Speaker 2: how they manage all of those opportunities that are going
Speaker 2: to be in front of them.
Speaker 1: So on the other side, Smittye, you know the cruelty
Speaker 1: that oftentimes sports manifests.
Speaker 3: It feels like a gut punch.
Speaker 1: And I'm certainly no Indiana Pacer fan, but man, did
Speaker 1: I feel bad seeing Tyree Saliburton go down and we
Speaker 1: all knew what it was because we all discussed the
Speaker 1: Durant parallels or other parallels. We've got Tatum, We've got
Speaker 1: Dame Lillard, we have all these caf strains to turn
Speaker 1: into Achilles, and again not a doctor. It just feels
Speaker 1: like maybe we need to look at this a little closer,
Speaker 1: letting these guys play when they're so compromised. So two
Speaker 1: part question, what did you make of this great run
Speaker 1: from those Indiana Pacers? And you know your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the Halliburton injury. It's just super gunning, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you flicked back to several years ago, you
Speaker 2: know the drama that was around Donovan Mitchell with the
Speaker 2: Jazz and when the playoffs started several years ago, when
Speaker 2: when the Jazz medical group held him out of Game
Speaker 2: one against Memphis because they didn't think he was ready.
Speaker 2: All their testing showed that, and he wanted to play,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of internal discussion, debate arguing whatever,
Speaker 2: however you want to couch it about, you know, him
Speaker 2: going out there and the Jazz you know, trying to
Speaker 2: basically say to him, look, why do you think we
Speaker 2: would have you stay out of a playoff game when
Speaker 2: we need you in the playoffs unless we thought it
Speaker 2: could potentially hurt you, and he wasn't buying it at
Speaker 2: the time, and and that that led to some of
Speaker 2: the discord that was behind the scenes. I think that
Speaker 2: led to the ultimate decision to trade him, or at
Speaker 2: least his feelings about the Jazz going forward in that regard.
Speaker 2: But that was that was a real thing that the
Speaker 2: Jazz are trying to protect him from himself. Now you
Speaker 2: look at what happened to Kevin Durant several years ago
Speaker 2: the Golden State and the argument about whether he should
Speaker 2: have been on the court then or not when he
Speaker 2: when he got hurt in the in the playoffs, or
Speaker 2: now this thing with Haliburton, whether you should be playing
Speaker 2: or not. Of course you're you're sitting in the locker
Speaker 2: room and you're with your medical staff fence and at
Speaker 2: the game seven of the NBA Finals, and you're looking
Speaker 2: at each other, and I can guarantee the player is going,
Speaker 2: what are you guys even talking about? This is what
Speaker 2: we do all year long, but this one night, this game,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not sitting now, I'm going out and
Speaker 2: I'm doing whatever I can and we just lay it
Speaker 2: out there and we see what happened, and the ball
Speaker 2: went the wrong way for them, and this happened, and
Speaker 2: now it's going to affect them next year certainly, and
Speaker 2: you don't know how it's going to be going forward
Speaker 2: after that. But how about Halliburton A. Lillard paid them
Speaker 2: all in the East major players for their teams all
Speaker 2: go out with the same injury. It's devastating and it
Speaker 2: really looks you have to start looking at things, you know,
Speaker 2: like the workload and what you do in the off
Speaker 2: season conditioning and are guys just playing too much? Do
Speaker 2: they not give them enough rest? And I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about during the season, I'm talking about in the off
Speaker 2: season when they have workout regimens and all those kinds
Speaker 2: of things that really have to you know, the people
Speaker 2: have to start looking deeper into how those things really
Speaker 2: affect players and a law term basis.
Speaker 3: All right, it's Mandy.
Speaker 1: Since you and I last spoke, you know, we all
Speaker 1: discussed the potential of Phoenix doing something because it felt
Speaker 1: like they had to, and they did, and they sent
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets in exchange for Jalen Green,
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks the number ten pick this year and five
Speaker 1: second rounders, just both sides. Your thoughts on this transaction.
Speaker 1: What does it mean for Houston, what does it mean
Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's something that both sides felt like
Speaker 2: was going to benefit them. Look, Phoenix that had Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: He had a terrific year. He's an all start obviously
Speaker 2: in a future Hall of Famer, but they didn't even
Speaker 2: get in the playoffs with him performing that way, so
Speaker 2: that part doesn't matter to Phoenix. They felt they had
Speaker 2: to move him for the for the salary number, for
Speaker 2: the for the financial constraints that they had backed themselves
Speaker 2: into with the new owner signing off on all that stuff,
Speaker 2: and it didn't matter to them whether they got these
Speaker 2: players who might help them, whether it's Green or Brooks
Speaker 2: or the tenth pick, or if it's just two second
Speaker 2: rounders they got. They had to do something with Durant,
Speaker 2: and they did it, so they got something back. Whether
Speaker 2: you want to argue they got enough. Of course they
Speaker 2: didn't get the value because Kevin Durant is a very
Speaker 2: special player, but you had to do something with his money,
Speaker 2: and you weren't winning with him, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: So you get him out of there, you get him
Speaker 2: off the books. You're bringing these other guys give you
Speaker 2: a little bit of flexibility financially. More going forward, I
Speaker 2: give you a look at Brooks and whether the Green
Speaker 2: can develop into a nice young player that remains to
Speaker 2: be seen. Then of course you got the tenth pick
Speaker 2: to use, and the second round pick probably don't mean
Speaker 2: much of anything. They looked good on paper, but unless
Speaker 2: unless they happen to strike on someone in the second
Speaker 2: round going forward. But for Houston, they thought, this is
Speaker 2: an opportunity. We've got a nice team, a good team
Speaker 2: that competed this year, had a tough first round series.
Speaker 2: We've got a superstar like Kevin Durant. If he comes
Speaker 2: in with the right attitude and the right approach and
Speaker 2: sees this as a chance to have some success before
Speaker 2: he bows out of the NBA at the end of
Speaker 2: his career, then they're willing to take that shot. So
Speaker 2: both teams had their own reasons for doing it, And
Speaker 2: you know, Phoenix's is more the long play. Houston's is
Speaker 2: more the short play to see if they can do
Speaker 2: something the next couple of years when Durant's still at
Speaker 2: a peak level. So you know, for both teams. I
Speaker 2: think it's a natural move.
Speaker 1: All right, Smitty, before I set you loose, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be joined by Kyle van Nor here at the moment,
Speaker 1: just a thought on five, Smitty will be part of
Speaker 1: our Draft night coverage.
Speaker 3: I'll anchor the show. It's going to be Smitty and
Speaker 3: the Great Gordy Chiasis.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that Thursday or excum me Wednesday
Speaker 1: starting at six, and then Thursday, Smithie and I will
Speaker 1: be kind of rolling solo without Gordy for the second round.
Speaker 1: But as we sit here today on this Monday afternoon
Speaker 1: at four sixteen Mountain time, have you landed on the prospect?
Speaker 1: You think that JAS should look at the most at
Speaker 1: number five.
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a several different guys, several different
Speaker 2: ways they can go Spence. Whether you want shooting, whether
Speaker 2: you want agile, big guy like a kid from Duke,
Speaker 2: Whether you want someone who's an all around athlete and
Speaker 2: there's a defensive guy like Edgecombe, you know, or you
Speaker 2: want a long wing who can score and do some
Speaker 2: things for you as a multi positional player in the
Speaker 2: kid Bailey from Rutgers. So they got a lot of
Speaker 2: different ways to look at it. Some of it will
Speaker 2: be dictated, obviously by the teams in front of them,
Speaker 2: unless they try and move up that they really like someone,
Speaker 2: but they have the worst defense in the league the
Speaker 2: last couple of years. So for me, you know, someone
Speaker 2: like Edgecombe who's a really a hard nosed defender and
Speaker 2: an active guy on the fall, you know, that's the
Speaker 2: kind of guy that you can start with because he's
Speaker 2: also supposedly a terrific young guy off the floor, and
Speaker 2: maybe he turns into one of your Donovan Mitchell type
Speaker 2: leaders as he gets into his career in terms of
Speaker 2: his athletic ability, his ability to play both ends of
Speaker 2: the floor, and maybe he brings some leadership quality to
Speaker 2: a team that really really needs some in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see what direction they go in.
Speaker 2: Come come Wednesday, I'll.
Speaker 1: Sneak in one more while we're waiting to connect with
Speaker 1: Kyle Smithy. You know, as far as the potential of
Speaker 1: moving on from veteran players, you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: it would surprise anybody Fostin Ainge decided to clean house
Speaker 1: a little bit. I just wondered the dynamic of Austin
Speaker 1: coming in a guy who didn't make the Mitchell trade,
Speaker 1: a guy who didn't make the go Bear trade, a
Speaker 1: guy who didn't acquire Walker, a guy who didn't acquire Lowry,
Speaker 1: a guy who didn't draft Kiance or Isaiah or I
Speaker 1: could keep going, the guy that had zero say in
Speaker 1: any of the transactions so far. What sort of dynamic
Speaker 1: does that create as far as the direction they could
Speaker 1: take concerning their decision making process.
Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing, Spence is going to be that,
Speaker 2: you know, with austen As coming in, you know, Ryan
Speaker 2: Smith and the ownership group of the Jazz and made
Speaker 2: a bold move in my opinion, of bringing in a
Speaker 2: new main voice, the leader, the decision maker of your
Speaker 2: group three weeks before the draft. And so these guys
Speaker 2: for the Jazz, the scouts, the personnel guys who have
Speaker 2: been out scouting these guys all year long, literally all
Speaker 2: around the world. And there are a lot of international
Speaker 2: players who will come into the mix as well. All
Speaker 2: of those guys have been working in tandem with each
Speaker 2: other all year long and had a certain direction, in
Speaker 2: a certain vibe, a certain tenor to what they were
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what to do come this moment,
Speaker 2: and then they bring a new guy into the room,
Speaker 2: and he's not only a new voice within the group,
Speaker 2: but he's the decision maker. And so now you got
Speaker 2: everybody in the room who hasn't worked with him before,
Speaker 2: obviously other than his dad, Danny Ainge and all those
Speaker 2: other people are going to be trying to figure out,
Speaker 2: you know, how do we maneuver this, how do we
Speaker 2: do this that makes sense for the organization. And you know,
Speaker 2: so there could be some jump start stops kind of
Speaker 2: thing where where people aren't sure you know, what the
Speaker 2: decisions are that are going on or how they're being made,
Speaker 2: and you know, but you're exactly right. Austin Angel isn't
Speaker 2: married to anybody on this roster. The roster is is
Speaker 2: flawed in a lot of ways, and they had the
Speaker 2: worst record in the league. They were one of the
Speaker 2: worst defensive teams the last couple of years, so there's
Speaker 2: nothing to protect. He really is coming in with the
Speaker 2: idea that whatever I can do, in my opinion, to
Speaker 2: get this thing going in the right direction, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do it, Which means everybody's in play in terms
Speaker 2: of players, and all the draft picks are in play
Speaker 2: in terms of moving up, moving back, moving out, depending
Speaker 2: on what I can get done, and so that's going
Speaker 2: to be interesting to see how he sees it and
Speaker 2: how he goes forward with his decision making process as we.
Speaker 1: Continue to wait for Kyle Smidy. If you're okay with it,
Speaker 1: I'll continue to ask your question so he can just
Speaker 1: keep the conversation going and as soon as he's on
Speaker 1: the line, we'll see if we can just kind of
Speaker 1: transition over. But let me ask you about Fears, the
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Fears kid, because there's reporting that the Jazz have
Speaker 1: worked him out multiple times, They've interviewed him multiple times.
Speaker 1: In Jonathan Cavoni, the ESPN's draft analyst, has him.
Speaker 3: At five to the Jazz. Now, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot to like.
Speaker 1: Certainly, there's also the you know, the element where he
Speaker 1: is six' two and The jazz needs size badly on the.
Speaker 1: PERIMETER i, Mean keyante And isaiah neither are big enough
Speaker 1: to guard some of the bigger wings in pro. Basketball, so, uh,
Speaker 1: again only because there's reporting around, it your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the potential of The jazz landing On Jeremiah years at, Five,
Speaker 1: well if they if.
Speaker 2: They're looking at him and they think that he's a
Speaker 2: good enough. Playmaker with the ball in his. Hands he can.
Speaker 2: Create you can get out of picking, rolls you can
Speaker 2: get in the, lane you can create some things to
Speaker 2: happen that way like you did In. Oklahoma. Uh you,
Speaker 2: know then then that's a good place to look. At you,
Speaker 2: know they have to they have a lot of holes
Speaker 2: they have to. Fill you, know certainly that position is. One,
Speaker 2: uh but they have to they have to really be
Speaker 2: comfortable and confident that he's the kind of. Guy you,
Speaker 2: know this. Group you not only need a player in my,
Speaker 2: opinion who has a certain skill level and a certain
Speaker 2: that they could bring to your, group BUT i believe
Speaker 2: you need to get someone to add to the group
Speaker 2: who has some kind of a leadership quality and. Ability
Speaker 2: and if they've interviewed him more than once and the
Speaker 2: visit with them and talk to people that can always
Speaker 2: do behind the hut, scenes and they've made the determination
Speaker 2: that he can be a leader type group Like, halliburton
Speaker 2: who's shown, up you, know TO, tv one of those
Speaker 2: guys Or Guildess, alexander the kind of guy who maybe
Speaker 2: wasn't seen that way when they came out of college
Speaker 2: and they were a little question marks about those guys
Speaker 2: and how they could do. That but once they got
Speaker 2: their footing under them and, stuff we see what kind
Speaker 2: OF nba players they can. Be if they determined that
Speaker 2: he has that kind of leadership quality and approach to his,
Speaker 2: business you, know THEN i can see them making that
Speaker 2: kind of a decision if they think that's going to
Speaker 2: help the growth of their team going.
Speaker 1: FORWARD i know you like The watch, Kids, SMITTY i
Speaker 1: wonder you, know ultimately to your, point and we've talked about,
Speaker 1: this AND i agree with, you they need.
Speaker 3: Everything there's nothing they don't.
Speaker 1: Need BUT i suppose there's a world that if they're
Speaker 1: going to ride with marketing And, kessler you could, Say,
Speaker 1: okay well maybe they've got a front.
Speaker 3: Court that they like and you don't really need to
Speaker 3: add to.
Speaker 1: IT i guess if you Like, malawatch you think he's
Speaker 1: the best player at, five you take him at. Five
Speaker 1: but because they Have, kessler do you think that dissuades
Speaker 1: them from looking At malawatch at?
Speaker 2: FIVE i, Could but you, know Against BET's one of
Speaker 2: the things that comes into play all the. Time the
Speaker 2: people don't talk. Enough and we just mentioned a minute
Speaker 2: ago with the okayc situation going, forward is that The
Speaker 2: jazz will be making some decisions also based on finances
Speaker 2: and based on what makes sense money. WISE i Like
Speaker 2: kessler AND, i you, KNOW i think those two guys
Speaker 2: really you play well. Together they they make a good,
Speaker 2: tandem you. Know but the money you're going to be paying,
Speaker 2: them you, know going, forward and and what the production
Speaker 2: is you get your team the bottom, Line sometimes you
Speaker 2: have to weigh those things and, say, well maybe we
Speaker 2: just do a restart and if we get someone like
Speaker 2: the kid From duke AND, i you, know he's a
Speaker 2: long way, away you, know Like rudy was when he
Speaker 2: first came. Out BUT i just like some of his
Speaker 2: instincts and some of his mobility and his. Energy he
Speaker 2: plays with for a long. Guy you, know if he
Speaker 2: could develop into something like, that then you're getting a
Speaker 2: guy on a much cheaper contract than what you're probably
Speaker 2: going to end up paying For, kessler you, know to
Speaker 2: do what he does the next several, years if and
Speaker 2: when you decide to give him an, extension so with
Speaker 2: him and, marketing those could be two rather significant numbers
Speaker 2: on your. Payroll if you're still in a developing stage
Speaker 2: with your team and you're really don't expect you're going
Speaker 2: to be able to compete in The Western conference the
Speaker 2: next several. Years, anyway then then there's a scenario where
Speaker 2: you discussed maybe we just restarted again and we Move,
Speaker 2: kessler and we bring in someone like like a kid
Speaker 2: From duke to take that spot at a much cheaper,
Speaker 2: number and you do something with marketing and get off
Speaker 2: that number and bring in somebody, else and and and
Speaker 2: you retool it that way and save your money for
Speaker 2: when that really makes sense for guys that can really
Speaker 2: make a difference in in your group going. Forward but
Speaker 2: those are tough decisions to. Make but those are all
Speaker 2: the things that the guys are weighing behind the scenes
Speaker 2: that they need to try to figure. Out And Austin
Speaker 2: ange will bring a different perspective of, that especially coming
Speaker 2: from The boston scenario where where he got out the
Speaker 2: back door from having to deal help deal with THE
Speaker 2: uh close to five hundred million dollar salary and taxes and,
Speaker 2: penalties the same eltics you're looking at next.
Speaker 1: Year BEFORE i say you LOSE, SIMITTI i have more
Speaker 1: of a general question for, you just to have you
Speaker 1: help us understand what things like a really good young
Speaker 1: team In Oklahoma city means for decision making of a
Speaker 1: team like The Utah jazz or you, know really good
Speaker 1: opportunities For San antonio to grow pretty. Quickly and of
Speaker 1: Course dallas now with the number one overall, pick because
Speaker 1: as you AND i discussed, before when you guys were
Speaker 1: building up The mitchell Go bear teams With quinn as
Speaker 1: the head, coach WHEN i would analyze the roster construct
Speaker 1: and WHEN i would analyze the, TEAM i would do
Speaker 1: it through the prism Of, okay who is in.
Speaker 3: Their prime right? Now and how? Long and Tell steph Isn't?
Speaker 3: Steph how long Until lebron is A?
Speaker 1: Lebron and when that time, comes Will, Donovan, Rudy mike
Speaker 1: boyon that? Group will they be able to capitalize on that?
Speaker 1: Window and now it just feels like with all the
Speaker 1: youth And Oklahoma, city all the draft capital In San,
Speaker 1: Antonio Victor, Wemban i'm A cooper, flag the climb to
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain for The jazz does not
Speaker 1: feel like it's any time within the next, honestly five,
Speaker 1: six seven. YEARS i know that sounds, dire but how
Speaker 1: do those dynamics color the perspective of decision making AN
Speaker 1: nba front?
Speaker 3: Offices BEFORE i say you.
Speaker 2: Loose, yeah well you have to, again especially you have
Speaker 2: to factor in the things that you can, control which
Speaker 2: is like coming up On wednesday And thursday the. Draft
Speaker 2: how did they handle the? Draft who are the guys they?
Speaker 2: Evaluate how did they get those? Players you, know OK,
Speaker 2: c for, example pick number eight a few years ago
Speaker 2: and they settle On Jalen williams and that that was
Speaker 2: a big win for. Them they got that one. Right,
Speaker 2: Okay The jazz last year had the number ten pick
Speaker 2: and they Picked Jalen williams, Brother Cody, williams who you,
Speaker 2: know in his first year was a NON nba, player
Speaker 2: and you can even argue that he was hardly A
Speaker 2: G league. Player so you, know the jury will still
Speaker 2: be out on. That that's going to take several years
Speaker 2: to figure that. Out i'm not sure he is AN nba.
Speaker 2: GUY i don't think he has the skill level and
Speaker 2: just the mindset that his brother has to play. Defensively
Speaker 2: but we'll, see you, know maybe he maturns into. That
Speaker 2: but those are the decisions you have to. Make and
Speaker 2: then you have to have things like happened To dallas
Speaker 2: last month in the draft, lottery where you're not expecting,
Speaker 2: it but you get something falls in your lap and
Speaker 2: you get the ability to draft supposedly A Cooper flag
Speaker 2: and add him to your. Group The jazz have to
Speaker 2: have something like that or something that just happened With
Speaker 2: houston to get a team that wants to get rid
Speaker 2: Of Kevin durant and you get in on that kind
Speaker 2: of a sweet stake and add somebody like. That so
Speaker 2: all of those things spent are the things that you're
Speaker 2: looking at to build while you're looking at all the
Speaker 2: tough teams in The west that you're still can eating.
Speaker 2: Against one of those things you can, control which is
Speaker 2: the draft and how you develop those. Players but the
Speaker 2: other things you can't. Control something happening that falls in your,
Speaker 2: lap or another team that's trying to make a move
Speaker 2: of some sort that you can benefit. From those are
Speaker 2: the things that you know there's not a timing on
Speaker 2: that it might happen next, year it might happen two
Speaker 2: years from, now it may never happen because of the
Speaker 2: time and. Circumstances and so The jazz by dismantling the
Speaker 2: team several years ago and trying to go this route
Speaker 2: or finding out how difficult it is to build a
Speaker 2: team and how difficult it is to. Compete And i'm
Speaker 2: in agreement with. YOU i think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a long road for them and it's going to be very.
Speaker 2: Tough but they have to have some things fall their
Speaker 2: way and and good fortune happened to, them which so
Speaker 2: far has not. Occurred and so there you.
Speaker 1: Go all, Right, Smithy, WELL i appreciate the. Time we'll
Speaker 1: get you in studio this week for our hour long
Speaker 1: hit and then excited to spend some time with you
Speaker 1: covering the Draft wednesday And.
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Speaker 2: Right, man look forward to, It Thanks.
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