WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 Get ready for. 2 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:17.239 November twenty nine, twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that 3 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:20.920 thing we call a calendar, this is the live O'Kelly effect. 4 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.480 About five minutes late going to the live stream as 5 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.519 we often on on Fridays, and my cos BP asked 6 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.480 me how come you could get to the air on 7 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.079 time this past Wednesday, but you can't do it on Fridays. 8 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:36.679 A lot of times I get to air late, but 9 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.439 Fridays I'm always late because there's always little glitches with 10 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:43.439 the phone line. You know. Today I was trying to 11 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:45.280 dial into it and it was telling me that I 12 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:48.880 was using a spam phone number. Meanwhile, I no longer 13 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.479 have a phone number on Skype, and I'm just using 14 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.439 the dial out as a phone you know option that 15 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.679 I pay for because I lost my my regular Skype 16 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.159 phone number that I had for years. Anyways, it's a thing, 17 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:05.760 and you know, they randomly create a phone number when 18 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:09.079 you dial in. So sometimes they randomly create a number, 19 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.280 and it's a spam number apparently, or a number that 20 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:14.840 has been used as spam, so it doesn't let you 21 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.879 call into the service. Weirdness. Weirdness, But you won't get 22 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:21.879 that if you call into the show, and that is 23 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:24.000 what I want you to do here on a Friday night. 24 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.560 This is my first one back from Dallas. Last Friday. 25 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.799 We were not on because I was there live on 26 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:35.439 the twenty second of November in Dallas, Texas and kind 27 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:36.879 of did a short show to tell you a little 28 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.400 bit about it earlier in the week. But that means 29 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.480 you can call in about anything tonight and I won't 30 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.280 be just stuck on telling stories, although if my co 31 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.079 host or you have any questions, I'll be more than 32 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.159 happy to answer about the presentations or whatever it is 33 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.719 that I did get to catch at l answer this year. 34 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.120 If not, we can move on. We can get into 35 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:01.120 the news as it was, it is as it's going 36 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.760 to be. Apparently there's rumors that MSNBC is for sale 37 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:08.840 as a separated thing. They're going to get rid of 38 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:12.199 it from their brand, so that's something going on. Also, 39 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:17.159 Jim Henson Studios apparently got bought by John Mayer and 40 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.800 a partner and Jim Henson's Studios the literal physical lot 41 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.599 because John Mayer records there and there's a recording studio 42 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:27.319 and a bunch of other stuff. It used to belong 43 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.800 to Charlie Chaplin. That's why when you visit it, there's 44 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.800 a statue of a Kermit the Frog dressed up as 45 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.719 Charlie Chaplin on the Hollywood lot there and that whole 46 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:44.159 facility sixty million dollars. So I wasn't aware that a 47 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.680 guy like John Mayer could get into a partnership wear 48 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:49.639 sixty millions on the table. I guess he's doing a 49 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.400 lot better than I thought. Anyway. Is the music business 50 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.919 dead now? Probably? But some of those guys that were 51 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.879 making money beforehand, maybe they made some good cash. I 52 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:00.960 don't know a couple of that didn't get ripped off 53 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.159 by their management. John Mayer might be one of them. Anyway, 54 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.080 maybe that's on your mind. Maybe Trump is on your mind. 55 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.439 I hope not, because you had plenty of time to 56 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.159 get into other things. But whatever it is, call in 57 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.560 and talk about it. Three one nine five two seven 58 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.240 five zero one six three one nine five two seven 59 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.759 five zero one six. That is the number to call 60 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:28.360 three one nine five two seven five zero one six. 61 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.639 Or you can reach out to me on Skype. I 62 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.360 am Charles dot o'celly, and if you ask me to 63 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:37.560 call you into the show, I will do so. Uh, 64 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.719 but don't call during the show. I can call you 65 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:44.159 in if you ask me to. And I'm told that 66 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.479 my audio sounds a bit hot, so I'm gonna turn 67 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:49.039 it down a bit and see if I can bring 68 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.360 it down just to touch see if that helps us out. 69 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:56.080 And then also check the audio on my co host BPTE. 70 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:57.800 How you doing this week? Ben? 71 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.360 A pair of a little FYI here. I just looked 72 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.759 it up and apparently John Mears net worth is about 73 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.560 well seventy five million as of last year, and a 74 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.840 good person of that is his massive watch collection. But 75 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.720 Marie in a few stories here lately about the watch 76 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:22.240 business and how people get into collecting some of the 77 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.519 prices that you see on This also is another media update. 78 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.000 Remember a couple of weeks ago we were. 79 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:33.360 Talking about Alex Jones, Oh if they was being bought. 80 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:39.480 Apparently at the Good there is a good from the 81 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:44.839 Onion to take over Info Wars, and you were wondering 82 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.920 how the Onion could afford something like that that I'm 83 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.399 to find out the Onion is backed by Michael Bloomberg. 84 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.480 Ah, that's news to me. See now, I don't think 85 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.199 the Onion started out as being backed by Michael Bloomberg. 86 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.519 But now that makes sense. Now. Another thing just to 87 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:03.720 parallel with that story, though real quick, as I was 88 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.000 going to note, and I forgot to do this during 89 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:10.360 my opening, is that the Alex Jones Network is on 90 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.319 the air, folks, So you know he's out there right now. 91 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:15.439 And as a matter of fact, his clickbait reads as 92 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.879 follows before you go into the rest of the story 93 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:22.000 about the onion Friday Live, Trump plans to force Zelensky 94 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.279 to the negotiating table by cutting off arm shipments and 95 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:29.800 money to Ukraine. Vladimir Putin responds by warning the deep 96 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:35.079 State is planning another assassination attempt against Trump. Must watch 97 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.240 share live coverage on the Alex Jones Network, according to 98 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.240 his social media So just telling you guys, it's not 99 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.639 like Alex Jones went away there. I told you what 100 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.000 he was gonna do is just jump on over to 101 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:52.360 a new, already fashioned network and this one just bears 102 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.560 his name instead of the Info Wars Moniker or the 103 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.680 prison Planet thing that he was partnered with somebody else on. 104 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.199 All that stuff gone, But Alex Jones still a marketable 105 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.600 name and now it's the Alex Jones Network. So anyway, 106 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.879 about the Onion though back by Bloomberg that was not 107 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:11.720 known to me. Go ahead, tell me more. 108 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.800 Yeah, I'll turn across it. And this is the story 109 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.480 from the thirteenth of this month, so it's current and 110 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:22.319 apparently it's The headline reads, angry judge questions transparency of 111 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:29.199 Onion bid for info ruars. I had heard. I had 112 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.680 heard that Bloomberg was behind. There's a website out there 113 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:39.800 at the tabulates gun violence quote unquote, and they try 114 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:44.439 to they're trying to petition for gun law changes and 115 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.879 things like that. That they've been a little nefarious in 116 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.079 the way that they do their data. If like, when 117 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.480 they talk about school shootings. In their database, they list 118 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.399 an instance where a man in life are having a 119 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.680 fight and they pulled into a parking lot and the 120 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.399 fight escalated and one unmitted up shooting the other. Because 121 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.800 it was in a parking lot adjacent to a school, 122 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.439 they counted that as a school shooting. So there's I 123 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:20.079 can't think of the name, it's my neighborhood or something. 124 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.240 Anyway, Well, there's a bunch of that's similar. You know, 125 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.439 our town, USA, I think is the largest anti gun thing. 126 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:30.759 That's it. Okay, that's it Bloomberg is behind that as well. 127 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.079 In a story that I read, but this one, this 128 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.399 story specifically, the judge says the first state bankruptcy judge 129 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:41.560 says he has concerns over the process in which a 130 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.800 chricual new sight to Onion won an auction for right 131 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:47.199 wing provocatory Alex Jones is Info Wars website, So he 132 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.360 was dissatisfied with the transparency. Is the transparency of the 133 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.079 Sayer processes. Christopher M. Wempeter said Thursday that he would 134 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.160 hold it hereing next week to hear concerns and possibly 135 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.639 to prove the sale of the Info War's asset to 136 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:02.120 the website owners. He says, I personally don't care who 137 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.519 he was an auction or care about the process and transparency. 138 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:10.199 I'm trying to remember who first told me that Bloomberg 139 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:13.079 was behind this thing, because I can't find info. 140 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:15.959 Quick search and see if I will find out way 141 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:16.680 he obtained. 142 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.399 Well, look, while you're doing your quick search, I remember 143 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:22.600 that on the day of the auction, like a couple 144 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.319 of hours after it was announcer that the Onion had it, 145 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:29.839 there was already some people in the Jones organization basically 146 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:33.080 saying there's something wrong with this because we had a 147 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.799 higher bid. There was a group representing Alex Jones' interests, 148 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.440 you know, partially a new group game together to try 149 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:42.840 and you know, like say retain it on his behalf, 150 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.960 not really him directly, and they were complaining that they 151 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:49.320 had placed a hire bid. Then the Onion it looked 152 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:52.200 like so it was like, wait a minute, we placed 153 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:53.879 a hire bid. How come we didn't win? What is 154 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:56.879 the point of bidding? I thought for a moment that 155 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.440 might have just been sour grapes. But and then I 156 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.399 waited on the story to develop some more and I 157 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:04.000 didn't really see it after that. But then again, I 158 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.440 haven't been trying to track it hard. I just took 159 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:10.200 note that Alex Jones immediately was on x and was 160 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.000 on various platforms and was out there right away again 161 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.919 because there was, you know, no interruption in the Alex 162 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:20.440 Jones show per se. So I just wanted to make 163 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.279 that note. I mean, probably a few people are having 164 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.080 trouble finding where he is now and the Onion, let's see, 165 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:29.399 I guess today's thing. I looked at the Blue Sky 166 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.279 social media platform and they had the Onion had a 167 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.360 thing out there that said, now there is a law 168 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.720 in Kentucky or something stating that you have to put 169 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.480 all the Ten Commandments must be posted inside of every 170 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:48.600 woman's womb, you know. And they're making jokes like that 171 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:52.120 which are meant to poke fun at the right wing, 172 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:56.759 and that's about it. So that's gonna be lame and stupid. 173 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:02.919 And unless they do have a angel patron keeping them floating, 174 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.639 I guess I don't know how the Onion's gonna even 175 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.120 own that, you know what I mean, or they just gonna, 176 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:10.279 you know, sell off all the rest of the assets, 177 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:14.559 just claim the website address and then you know, empty 178 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:16.679 it out. I don't know. I don't know what they're 179 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.440 gonna do. But they have already made network that they 180 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.279 could hand over to somebody, you know, and and really 181 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.679 give somebody, you know, all the satellite access, all the equipment, 182 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.039 the buildings, I mean everything. I'm thinking that info Wars 183 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.960 owned has a serious value, you know, if somebody wants 184 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.480 to pay the bills on that sucker. I mean, people 185 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.480 like me would be more than happy to walk into 186 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.759 the Info War's husk and take it over, you know, 187 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.960 even if we don't have the website. I would love 188 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:49.279 to have the facilities, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 189 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:54.600 you've seen my facilities. They're not very impressive. They're they're functional, 190 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:57.519 but I would love to have the equipment that Jones 191 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.399 had and the resources cameras. Who knows what else went 192 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.759 along with that. Actually, you know, I don't know all 193 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:06.519 of what input War has even owned altogether, but it 194 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.080 was a long it's supposed to. 195 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:10.799 I haven't been able to find a breakdown of everything 196 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.200 that is included. I don't I don't know that the 197 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:18.519 satellite and all that network is included. It's his website. 198 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.879 I think the actual studios themselves, but I'm not sure. 199 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:28.159 And as a clarification, also, the site that is backed 200 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.919 by Bloomberg is every Town for Gun Safety, Okay, and 201 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.919 they're the ones that have been kind of caught finatal 202 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:39.080 in their figures when it comes to certain topics, let's say. 203 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.159 But in fairness, there's about like twenty organizations that have 204 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:46.840 a very similar sounding name. I'm just saying every Town USA. 205 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.440 I know that is one of those names because that's 206 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.559 the ones I see the commercials from, and that's the 207 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:57.240 ones that use the Sandy Hook witnesses and the Parkland 208 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:01.279 witnesses in their commercials. But I don't know, maybe some 209 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.440 of these other ones do too, because it's very easy 210 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.840 to confuse. You see five seconds later, I guarantee you 211 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:08.480 most of my listeners are like, what was the name 212 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:12.639 of that organization? Again? Yeah, it's one of those sort 213 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:14.879 of sentences, you know, which is meant to be It 214 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:19.480 could be anywhere USA, and that's really their their sentiment. 215 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.720 I'm just saying, and not saying I'm on their side 216 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.159 or anything. I'm just saying I do take notice of that. 217 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:29.360 But this is yet another one of those. Okay, fair enough, 218 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.000 so go ahead. What else do we know about this? Though? 219 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.240 I mean Bloomberg's backing it because he just owns these 220 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:37.679 things or what? 221 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.120 Oh, that's what I'm trying to determine right now, because 222 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.440 what browser? That was great until you've got to find something. 223 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.799 And sounds like that's not a very good ad for 224 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.559 a browser there, it's great until you got to find something. Yes, 225 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:58.679 you know, it's not a bad browser which I'm looking 226 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.720 at and maybe thinking about switch over to. Is called Max. 227 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:04.200 Don you ever heard of it? 228 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:05.960 Now? 229 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.759 It's literally spelled m a x t h O N 230 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:13.240 and it looks to me like the kind of browser 231 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.320 that you know, a lot of them start out keeping 232 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.399 the ads off of it, and you know, making sure 233 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.000 that your browsing experience is not being monitored and all 234 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:25.879 that stuff. But it looks to me like Max Don 235 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.240 might be the next wave. And I've been stuck on 236 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.480 Firefox for over a decade. To be honest with you, 237 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.320 I love Firefox, and so do some of my listeners. 238 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.480 According to what I see, those of you that listen 239 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.240 on PC, A lot of you listen on Firefox browsers. 240 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:49.120 So appreciate you anyways. Yeah, anyway, So I hope Duck 241 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:50.799 Goho starts to work for you so you can pick 242 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:51.600 up this information. 243 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.960 Well, I'm looking right now. Apparently the latest news I 244 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.320 can find is is that Bloombirded is not the hind 245 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.879 the Onion. Apparently Univision owned it for a while. That's 246 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.039 what I'm looking forward now, it's the sale history of it. 247 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.840 You know, we need to we need to do an investigation. 248 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.080 Who owns the Onion? 249 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.840 Well, I mean there I've listed who owns it, but 250 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:24.399 it's a company Tetrahedron. Let's see to the countries based 251 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.879 Chicago Originated is a weekly print blah blah blah, Madison, Wisconsin, 252 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.679 and he began publishing online in ninety six. In two thousand, 253 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.240 it began news, audio and video online as the Onion 254 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:41.000 News Network. There was acquired three times, first by Univision 255 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:44.759 in twenty sixteen, which later merged The Onion and it's 256 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.159 several other publications in the those of Gizmoo Media Group. 257 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:52.080 Mission was to sold the nineteen to Great Partners, forming 258 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:55.960 a new company, Grmedia. Then they sold it in April 259 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:01.440 of this year to Global Tetrahedron really created by former 260 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:07.679 Tulio CEO Jeff Lawson, and apparently he revived the print 261 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:13.519 edition in August of this year. So I guessed Univisions 262 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.360 Bloomberg part owner of Univision. 263 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:19.440 In which section. 264 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.279 But to die a little deeper into this thing, you know, 265 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:23.240 I'm diving into it. 266 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.799 There's been a lot of sales for this thing, and 267 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.399 you know it's started starting in two thousand and three. 268 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.960 In fact, there's there's a lot of purchases and changing 269 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:34.440 of ownership of. 270 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:37.759 Somebody, maybe it was Dunbon Gino. On his show, somebody 271 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:44.159 made a comment about if I was being sold, and some. 272 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.039 Other guests asked who was behind it and made the 273 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:51.879 comment Bloomberg and Bloomberg was also behind every Town, and 274 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.519 every Town apparently was putting up a lot of the money. 275 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:58.159 Well, just because it was said on Bonagino's show doesn't 276 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.960 necessarily make it true, especially because who knows, you know, 277 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.440 which guests and why they said it. I mean, and 278 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.559 I often find that people make these wide sweeping statements, 279 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.080 you know, like, uh, you know, here's a funny thing. 280 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.279 What happened to George Soros during this election? I didn't 281 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:15.360 hear about him anymore? Right, I mean, there's no more 282 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.639 Soros influence. Where where'd that hat? Where'd that could go? Guys? 283 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:19.320 What happened? 284 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.360 And he really in a bunch of ads when they 285 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.399 were talking about SALESA prosecutors and that, Well, you. 286 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.320 See, you were getting swamped with him because the algorithm 287 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.799 determined that you wanted to hear about Soros, I guess, 288 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:38.519 I mean on TV on TV in North Carolina, like 289 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:39.200 local TV. 290 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:42.360 Yes, the way that Kamala was you know, it was 291 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.759 supporting all of these solos back prosecutors. 292 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.879 Yeah, I was, wow, Well look at it this way. 293 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.000 If that was out there, you know, my apologies because 294 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.720 I didn't see it. And uh, it wasn't being running 295 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.440 Georgia that way. It was run another way and Georgia 296 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:07.039 And frankly, what a failure there, because if Soros is 297 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.880 supposed to succeed, you know, how did you even get 298 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.400 the AOC district to you know, vote for her and 299 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:19.200 for Trump simultaneously. Somebody needs to explain that one. Okay, 300 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:23.480 so looks to me like, I don't know Soros didn't 301 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:28.599 win if he was actually involved. Just saying anyways, my 302 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:31.039 point is that a lot of times they make sweeping 303 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.720 statements about who's behind people, and they're not always true. 304 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.079 So I'd like to know from a realistic, real world 305 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:43.400 point of view, who actually owns this thing? And just 306 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.920 like usual, quite honestly, it's usually a convoluted answer, right 307 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.480 where there's some media group that bought it and then 308 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.599 swept it into something else, and now it's part of 309 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:57.119 a family of communication companies, etc. That are actually owned 310 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.720 by you know, some subsidiary that eventually you find out 311 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:07.119 where the main corporation is. But what do you tell 312 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.960 me what Bloomberg? Okay, the Onion? Who owns the Onion? 313 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:12.799 Tell me again. 314 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:16.599 It's LLC. 315 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:18.000 Yeah, see what I mean? 316 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:23.119 Five Global Tetrahedron, but am really created by former two 317 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:24.599 CEO Jeff Awes. 318 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.640 Yeah, you see what I mean though a convoluted company name, 319 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.359 and see what else Tetrahedron owns. Watching, take a look 320 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:37.359 at what else Tetrahedron owns. I mean, it would be 321 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.359 very very strange if it was a singular LLC that 322 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.039 was created just for the purposes of obtaining the onion, 323 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.799 that would be interesting. Uh, But usually it's one of 324 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:51.000 these groups that owns a ton of companies, right. 325 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.240 Tetrahedron dot com. 326 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.279 Yeah, we'll have to look up what Global Tetrahedron owns 327 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:04.440 and controls on the website. Looking cool anyway, Like I said, 328 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.200 you can join into this conversation or change its direction 329 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.200 anytime you like. At three one nine five two seven 330 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:13.599 five zero one six. I do see that we already 331 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:16.839 have one of our regular callers who I'm gonna get 332 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.440 to right away, but I would love to hear from 333 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.839 some more people. Now, just a quick programming notes. We 334 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.640 do have the option to go beyond ten pm Eastern 335 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:34.119 if we'd like. Uh, you know, and it is okay, 336 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:36.039 I gotta I gotta somehow get a hold of the 337 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:40.200 sound here because apparently somebody, somebody's telling me our sound 338 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:43.480 is a little bit too hot, too live. So I'm 339 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:48.839 gonna try and adjust it a bit anyway, we'll we'll 340 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.599 try and fix that as we go. H did not 341 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:54.319 know that, but anyway, Yeah, you can join us via 342 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:57.359 Skype if you message me Charles dot Ocelli, you can 343 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:59.799 join us three one nine five two seven five zero 344 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:02.279 one one six. We have the option to go beyond 345 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:06.519 ten PM because there is no age of transitions live tonight. Uh, 346 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:08.440 but I'm not gonna go beyond if we don't get 347 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.559 some new callers, if we don't have a conversation flowing 348 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:14.480 by then uh, if we don't have you know, more 349 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:18.359 people calling in, I'm not gonna go past ten Why bother? Uh, 350 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:20.519 you know, I'll go like five minutes over or something 351 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:23.880 like that. But why, I don't really see a need 352 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.160 to go into like a third hour unless you guys 353 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:30.440 join us. So you're hearing us live, join into the 354 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.880 conversation three one nine five two seven five zero one six. 355 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.960 And I'm gonna look at some other options for controlling 356 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:42.400 the sound issue, because should be should be calmed down 357 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.960 a bit, should not be too damn loud tell you that, 358 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:54.039 but I don't know. Apparently it is anyway, Bpete, what 359 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:55.359 else have we got here? 360 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:55.839 Uh? 361 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:56.599 Do we have. 362 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.279 Any other ideas about what this thing owns? 363 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:06.960 This tetrahedron, Well, I'm looking at a tech Oh let's 364 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:08.759 I'm looking at a text type right now. Went to 365 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:11.880 the tetrahedrons and there's just an opening letter there by 366 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:14.200 the owner that says, this is why we decided to go, 367 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.920 this is why we decided to buy Info Wars. And 368 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:24.599 apparently they're buying the supplement business, the studios. I guess 369 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:29.440 there's a commun cases network is included. Yeah, see the 370 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:30.519 hope will get it. 371 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:34.680 Well, there's a lot to that. As I was saying, 372 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.359 I mean, there's a bunch of equipment, there's a bunch 373 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.839 of facilities, there's accounts that go along with that. I'm 374 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.599 imagining they get whatever social media accounts were only directly 375 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.880 attached to them, right their channels. All the ownership of 376 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:51.279 that stuff needs to go with it. Anything that's been 377 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:56.000 branded to it. And a supplement business, well that's one 378 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:58.720 of the many supplement businesses that was attached to it 379 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:02.160 for Wars, because remember the one his father owned that 380 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:05.599 isn't his So that was you know, he was trying 381 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:07.400 to shove pull money into that thing when they were 382 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:10.000 declaring that they were going to take all this money 383 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.440 from him. But that was but technically speaking, it's his 384 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:17.240 father's company, so who might argue, and so you have 385 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:20.960 that that's obviously not part of the deal. And as 386 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.039 a matter of fact, I'm pretty certain he's taking that 387 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.279 right on over to the new Alex Jones network because 388 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:28.799 I'm pretty sure I saw, you know, support support the 389 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:31.519 companies that support us, and one of them is his 390 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:32.440 father's company. 391 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:38.240 Okay, let's see. The brain's behind the new global Tetrahedron 392 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:41.480 is Jeff Lawson, who co founded twilerway way back in 393 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:43.680 two thousand and eight as a way to help businesses 394 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:47.680 easily in good communication features such as SMS and class 395 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:51.799 into their apps to an application programming interface. The company 396 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:54.720 went public in twenty sixteen at the valuation of more 397 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.200 than one billion, going on to reach nearly seventy billion 398 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:01.200 during the pandemic before seven at the ten billion to 399 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:04.640 fifteen big in mark. He's past couple of years lost 400 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:06.880 in the man's back in January that he was stepping 401 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:09.720 down from Twilio, and he has been on a personal 402 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:13.160 goal pursuit as part of a career break since according 403 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:16.519 to his sense according to his LinkedIn profile. But why 404 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:18.319 I would lost and want to buy the Onion, Well, 405 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.000 because he likes it and he has the means to 406 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:21.480 buy it. 407 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:28.400 Apparently he's looking he's looking to buy. 408 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:30.839 An author. 409 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.640 He's set up website that's got big bucks. And this 410 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:41.480 is the funny thing. When he bought the Onion, they're 411 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.880 asking for donations of exactly one dollar. And basically he's saying, 412 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:46.440 you know, if you care about the Nion, if the 413 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.680 Onion ever made you laugh, give us a buck. For 414 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:53.599 that dollar you get absolutely nothing. I mean, this guy 415 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.200 clearly knows his marketing and he's looking at something like 416 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.480 you said, it's already the set up operation. He can 417 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:01.400 go on there and turn it into basically an any 418 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:07.200 cyber if he once to you know, right, the families. 419 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:12.799 I didn't reading this one article. The families who won 420 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:19.359 the judgment back the Onion's purchase and they gave up 421 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.839 their claim to any money, with all the money for 422 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:30.839 the purchase going to other unsecured creditors. So I don't 423 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.839 know how that works in this bankruptcy. You know, I 424 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:41.200 guess I Jones claimed bankruptcy. So the court has decided, Okay, 425 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.319 we're going to break this thing up. He was forced 426 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:46.720 into it because of the judgment. So and that's the 427 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.279 that's one problem the judges happened is looking at all 428 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.279 of this convoluted mess. He's not sure about the big 429 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.319 process if they're actually wanted through legitimate big process. So 430 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:57.000 he's going through that. 431 00:24:57.319 --> 00:24:59.960 Apparently there was a hearing supposed to be this next week. 432 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.759 I think he got moved because I know Alex Jones 433 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:05.319 moves on the blaze the other built making comment that 434 00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:08.960 they have petitioned to fight the sale to the Onion 435 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.759 because the process wasn't transparent so barely. 436 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:13.200 That's where we're sitting now in limbo. 437 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.839 Yeah, so that's fine. And you know, speaking of sitting 438 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.960 in limbo, just wanted to say that I took notice 439 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:25.279 of all of the court cases going away against Donald Trump. 440 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.359 So anybody who said that I was just stupid for 441 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:31.839 saying that they would all evaporate one way or another, 442 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.839 pay attention, because that's what's happening in real time. Every 443 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.640 last one of these things is going away. The documents case, 444 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:44.720 the insurrection case, the vote case, the nonsense in Georgia 445 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.839 with the prosecutor or hired her boyfriend. That's all falling apart. 446 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.400 Every single case is going to fall apart. And you 447 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.640 watch even that Egene Carroll thing is going to collapse 448 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:58.759 eventually on appeal or something. And yeah, even the thirty 449 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.039 true felonies or what ever the hell it is. They 450 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:05.119 kept saying, however many felonies, they're gonna be gone. It's 451 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.799 all gonna be gone. And Jack Smith is even trying 452 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.480 to wind down everything he's doing before he resigns. He's 453 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.880 gonna try and get out the door before inauguration day. 454 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.359 Yeah, Jacksonith was told by Congress, don't leave the country. 455 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:20.680 We've got some questions for you. 456 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.480 Yeah. Maybe, but he's definitely gonna leave that office. 457 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.599 And that's gonna be the he's gonna leave the office 458 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:28.599 because if he's still there when Trunk is there and 459 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.559 he's gone, he's gonna fire that basket. 460 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.240 Of course. But the funny thing is that all these 461 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.200 people said they're gonna get him. They've got so much 462 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.720 time they're gonna get I kept saying, guys, watch and learn, 463 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:43.160 he's not gonna get nailed. For anything. There will be 464 00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.400 no content. I don't care if it's a valid charge 465 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.759 or invalid. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, do you 466 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:51.119 get it, It's all gonna go. 467 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.119 The only thing that I'm waiting to see happen is 468 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:59.440 if Mark Shawn in New York, it's the opportunity, it's 469 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.839 a certain sim he could pull the rogue out on 470 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:05.039 sentence unto jail. 471 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.839 It's not going to happen. BP. I mean, you never 472 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:09.400 say never. 473 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.920 No, when Jill, have never thought that the State of 474 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:16.480 New York or the City of New York, Okay, with 475 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.240 Traine the statutes allowing someone to come back and make 476 00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:24.119 a claim from thirty years ago, go through the process 477 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.680 and find somebody liable in a civil case of four 478 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:33.279 hundred million dollars. Totally no, You never would have thought 479 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.079 that would have happened. So never say never. 480 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.519 But I will say never, just because I can't imagine 481 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:40.839 the chicanery that people are going to pull in order 482 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.480 to listen. Here's one thing I can say about that 483 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.599 is that if a prosecutor wants to get somebody, and 484 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.599 if a court wants to get somebody, they will invent 485 00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:55.680 the rules that will be required to get somebody. That 486 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.880 is something I believe, and that's got nothing to do 487 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:01.079 with anybody's politics. That is just the way of our 488 00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:01.960 justice system. 489 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.839 And if Marshawn gets a chance to put Trump in 490 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.079 jail for one day, he'll do it. But here's allus 491 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:09.759 of whether he loses on appeal. 492 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.079 Yeah, but here's the trump card in the whole game, 493 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.440 and that is that if you're in a privileged position, 494 00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.559 you don't have to worry about those things. When I'm 495 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.759 talking about they want to go get somebody, they go 496 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.319 get anybody who doesn't have the juice, who doesn't have 497 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:28.319 the privilege. One way or another. That privilege could come 498 00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:31.240 from lots of money, or it could come from the 499 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.960 magic privilege where even if you're broke, you're still being 500 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:39.160 treated by the system just different than ninety nine percent 501 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:44.400 of us. You try and walk away from. Yeah, you can't. 502 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:50.119 Cathological thinking in the case involving a New York court. 503 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.799 Okay, if you say that, that's fine, I'm not going 504 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:55.599 to argue. I'm just going to say to you that 505 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.279 no matter where that court is, the way it is 506 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.839 in this country is if you have enough cash, you 507 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:08.920 don't have to worry about suffering consequences. Well, okay, Martha Stewart, 508 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.039 and they had to make an example out of somebody, 509 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.440 and I think she she must have really pissed off 510 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:17.440 the wrong person, because generally, I'm. 511 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.960 Saying, Marson, what's a chance to serve its Trump before 512 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.400 any of peers heard. 513 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.960 It's a different level of privilege that Trump hass But anyway, 514 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.400 that's just my idea. That's the way it is. I 515 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.440 don't want to argue with you. Whatever you say is fine. 516 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.519 I just give you, guys this statement again. Every single 517 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.640 court case against Trump, no matter what you think, is 518 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.599 going to disappear without any consequence being suffered by him. Yes, 519 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.400 his family's banned from being able to run charities in 520 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.039 New York. Oh so what yes? Is uh? You know 521 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.000 some of his businesses got shut down or whatever. So 522 00:29:55.240 --> 00:30:01.519 what real consequences to him personally? Nope, not gonna happen anyway. 523 00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:03.640 Jimmy James has been waiting on the line, so I'll 524 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.759 get to him. But I hope that we'll have other 525 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:09.279 callers in the near future. Three one nine five two 526 00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.720 seven five zero one six. That is the number to call, 527 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.079 and uh, by all means call in and change the 528 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:21.640 topic any which way you want, Jimmy James, Hey, the 529 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.680 Lions held on, although I thought they were on their 530 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:27.240 way to losing that game after you know, they held 531 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.759 the lead at the half and then it looked like 532 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.079 they were going to lose it, and they came back 533 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:33.279 and held on, didn't they. 534 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.279 Well makes sense, but. 535 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.160 Third points, Well, it looked like that might happen at 536 00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:48.720 the half. Didn't it like they were beating them? I 537 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.200 think the Bears hadn't even scored at the half, had they. 538 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.519 H three points? 539 00:30:58.359 --> 00:30:58.839 Oh? Maybe? 540 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.200 Okay, Yeah, You're You're solved. 541 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:05.160 Is like chopping chopping. 542 00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:07.839 It doesn't sound like right now to me? 543 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.240 Okay, why I don't know why. 544 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.720 I'm going on the phone though. Now I'm a radio 545 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:17.400 so I don't know how they're going. 546 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:19.720 All right. If you guys are having trouble with the 547 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.039 sound on the radio, by all means, let me know 548 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.599 and I'll see what I can do to repair it. 549 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:28.799 But I don't know. It sounds okay to me right 550 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:32.000 now through my monitor, And like Jimmy James said, it 551 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.359 sounds okay on the phone. But so, Jimmy, what's on 552 00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.160 your mind this week? My friend? 553 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.440 Well, first off, little kidding Donald Trump's not going to 554 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.359 go to get in trouble now because he was a 555 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:54.359 lot of president he lost. Do you not think you 556 00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:55.799 to let the prison? Yes? 557 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.319 Or no? I do not. I told you that all along. 558 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:00.079 It didn't matter. 559 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:02.279 There. 560 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.799 That's fine, that's all I even know. That's absurd, of course. 561 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:08.279 Okay, Otter P. 562 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:14.519 Diddy, tut Epstein, your privileged theories, a lord of comic crap. 563 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.440 Okay, but I don't want to you. Okay, if you 564 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:25.759 say you list, what can you asked my opinion? But 565 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:27.559 I also told you there was no way he was 566 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.160 going to lose. And I also told you he wasn't 567 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.799 going to win by a slim margin, which everybody kept saying, 568 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.119 it's a slim margin. I said, no, it's not why. 569 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:40.119 You were just your believisional. He could have easily lost. 570 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.759 They cheat to the thirteen million people that disappeared between 571 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.279 this and the last election. 572 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.119 Okay, so they couldn't cheat well enough in this time, right. 573 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.599 I heard a black guy say, where where are these people? 574 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:02.599 We think Trump's holding them in uh concentration camps. I 575 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.559 think that guy's onto something. I think he should go 576 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:10.559 out and find out where those missing voters are I want. 577 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:11.279 To know where they are. 578 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:13.240 Sure I can help them. 579 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.319 Point the way during the damn seitaries. 580 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:22.480 Okay, uh. 581 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.960 Oh yeah, oh I had a good story, but you had. 582 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.960 A great politician. If you can't get the dead to 583 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.319 show up to vote for you, right, I mean, let's 584 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.599 be honest. If you can't even get the people who 585 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:39.039 are you are to show up, well. 586 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:47.200 Then then Jackson work for long works whatever. I guess 587 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.960 they're just gonna keep cheating from here to hell, and 588 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:54.319 everyone's gonna play per Ton that it's everyone. That's cool. 589 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.319 Well if they if they were cheating this time, boy 590 00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.960 is that even more pathetic because they couldn't even cheat 591 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.680 enough to overcome Wow, that's terrible. 592 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:05.759 Yeah it is. 593 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.639 Yeah, it's it was alongside like dre there four hundred 594 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:17.760 electoral votes, five six million more votes for Trump. Yeah, 595 00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:22.679 it's alongside these days. I guess it's the best since Reagan. 596 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:24.679 Yeah, pretty much. 597 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:29.760 I'm fact Obama. I never won the damn electorial vote. 598 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.000 Hey, wasn't it that Reagan who won like every state 599 00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.960 except one? I think it was yeah against Mondale, Like 600 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.719 Mondale took his home state and. 601 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.920 That was it, right, We got a few hundred votes 602 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:49.400 just barely kept his about he's on Minnesota. Yeah, but 603 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.639 in state were all big companist as always. 604 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.400 Yeah, but Reagan got everything everything else. 605 00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:01.320 So yeah, well all you did, we get the districts 606 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.320 then gave it. 607 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.519 Yeah, but it does count, that's more. What have they 608 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.039 got one electoral vote or two? Do they one or two? 609 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:15.440 I can't be more than long. 610 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.400 I didn't think. I don't know what. Yeah, I don't 611 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.440 know why. Well, it's because it's a separate thing from 612 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:28.920 the state. Okay, but it's a separate thing. It's not 613 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.280 part of the state. It's really not there. There's a 614 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.360 whole lot of legal leagues behind that, so I get it. 615 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.239 It's not part of the state of Virginia or anything else. 616 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.320 It's separate, but it's not a state either, So I 617 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.760 don't know anyway. Either way, it is the way it 618 00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.519 turned out, and buy a good margin, so they couldn't 619 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:52.360 even make it close. 620 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.079 Hopefully that's the most of course the thing. I'm just 621 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:02.039 glad there's a cure victory one way, the whatever. Anyway 622 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:09.559 is my question. As far as the uh, say, so 623 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.280 I bought the virtual stuff the lot, it's fawned this thing. 624 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:19.559 I'll get the DVD say, uh no, they didn't. 625 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.079 They didn't state that they were giving you the physical DVD. 626 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:29.320 You can just download it. I think, Uh, well, I 627 00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.800 don't know. I don't know if Gabby chopped up the 628 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.440 uh the the you know, at first they were posted 629 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.719 as full days, and they're supposed to be cut up 630 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.079 into separate presentations where you know, you click on Mike Swanson, 631 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.320 you just watch Mike, uh, you know, like each one 632 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.960 in its own little separate file and windows are ready, 633 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.800 then you'll be able to download the uh the each 634 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.840 each uh you know presentation. Uh that's the way I 635 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.920 understand it. But don't use Firefox for that, because Firefox 636 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.960 doesn't give you that butt. You got to use like 637 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.920 Chrome or some other browser and you'll get the option 638 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.920 to download if you paid for that. So that's the 639 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:09.519 way that is. 640 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:16.079 I paid, I paid, I paid several books. I get 641 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.519 the DVD to do. 642 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.199 I don't think so, I mean, check what you what 643 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.519 you paid for because I wasn't involved in that part 644 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.480 of it. But but yeah, it's it's but you you'll 645 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.079 be able to download it though and keep it on 646 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.639 whatever device you want. You'll be able to get the downloads. 647 00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:33.400 So. 648 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.079 Absolute was this. 649 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.880 I thought, I was a little lots for I'm a student, 650 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:42.920 so should I get the student price? 651 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.519 I argued that, you know what's funny is I argued 652 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.119 that last year I did. I argued that last year 653 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.440 is that we should open the student discount to many 654 00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:01.400 more people who are students of the assassination. Uh. And 655 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.280 I was told no, they have to be actually, you 656 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.679 know in a university of some kind, have a student 657 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:10.800 idea of some kind current And I said, yeah, that's 658 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:11.440 kind of lame. 659 00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:12.239 Get there. 660 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.719 I said it was lame too, but believe it or not, Jimmy, 661 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.559 that was that was something I said the sixtieth anniversary 662 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:26.079 last year. Yeah, and uh, at least I wasn't getting 663 00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.239 stood a lot in between. 664 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:37.840 Yeah, I just up with the uh stupid I have 665 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.159 a question. 666 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:41.840 Oh god, yeah, go ahead. 667 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.199 And this is for both I because they have won 668 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.639 a class. Does anybody ever run across the name John 669 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:54.000 Gooch m the name of I ask the day before 670 00:38:54.119 --> 00:39:00.760 the conference, I happened to check my email to you know, 671 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.559 I've got that one blog, the Oswald Innocents campaign dot com, 672 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:09.079 so I can steal that name from uh robson Ky 673 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.199 and uh, this guy sends me an email to that 674 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.639 contact one team me, believe it or not, one to 675 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:23.719 me to forward his paper to Larry Rivera. He hasn't 676 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:28.519 read one lam thing on that blog post where I 677 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:34.920 ripped Larry Ravera's to pieces over this bush ship. So 678 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.760 I'm just wondering. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna touch 679 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:39.920 this guy's attax document because there's. 680 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:40.639 No telling what's in it. 681 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.239 If he's so stupid it is to think that I 682 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.840 would forward something to Larry like like I talked to 683 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.679 Larry every day, and that's the way he said it. 684 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.800 It said, please forward to Larry Rivera. Dear mister Rovera. 685 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.119 My name is John Gooch. I live in New Orleans 686 00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.320 area of Louisiana, where I was born and raised. My 687 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:03.039 family used to own Gallatori's restaurant, which is in the 688 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:06.360 French Quarter of New Orleans. I'm a fan of Jim 689 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.280 Garrison and have attended several JFK assassination commicses in New 690 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:13.480 Orleans and Dallas. I thought we might be interested in 691 00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.760 the research I've done here concerning the JFK assassination, so 692 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:21.079 I'm sending you the latest version of my jfk assassination paper, 693 00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.480 the New Orleans Connection. I've converted it to a Microsoft 694 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.760 word document so it's easier to read. Lays the table 695 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.639 of contents, and then he's got it attached. There's no way, hell, 696 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:32.599 I'm opening that up. 697 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:34.840 But I'm just curious if you guys have ever come 698 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.039 across this guy's name. 699 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.880 No, the name doesn't sound familiar, but there are a 700 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:43.960 lot of people that are from that area working on it. 701 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.559 And I mean there's also a guy here in Georgia 702 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.719 that contacts me all the time that is all about 703 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:56.159 you know, Garrison was in with the mob, and you know, 704 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.320 and he was just after clay Shaw because he was 705 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:02.400 gay and this kind of thing. You know, Garrison was 706 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.440 corrupt and wrong and all these like just wild stuff, 707 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.880 and ultimately he just thinks the Jews are responsible for 708 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:15.320 killing Kennedy. That's you know, the the punctuation on his 709 00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:22.880 entire thesis. And that guy is constantly contacting me. There's 710 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.119 also a bunch of people that are in well in Louisiana, 711 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:32.400 in Mississippi and in a lot of very rural areas 712 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.639 that like we're listening to Coast to Coast am and 713 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.519 one of them like actually had somebody else email me 714 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.599 so that I would call them on the phone and 715 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:48.000 talk to them outside of the conference. And so I did. 716 00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.480 And it turns out this is a guy who has 717 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.440 no Internet of any kind and will cannot get it 718 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.559 where he is, and he's just got a phone and 719 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.079 he listens to Coast to Coast am religiously. But he's 720 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:03.719 very much into the Kennedy assassination. Uh. But there are 721 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.760 tons of these guys out there that that I've never 722 00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.920 heard of, never seen from. UH don't know their work, 723 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.039 that claim to have you know, entire books, written papers, 724 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.159 written research done. They say they've done interviews, They've dug 725 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.559 up documents that other people haven't found, they say, you know. 726 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.880 And they all the time want me to forward stuff 727 00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:27.960 to different researchers. 728 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:29.119 Uh. 729 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.400 Somehow they find me, but can't find those other people's emails, 730 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.159 you know what I mean. So I get that all 731 00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.920 the time. B Pete, I don't know. But have you 732 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:45.360 ever heard of this guy, Jimmy, This is John. 733 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.199 Well the only coups remember it was actually involved in 734 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:54.039 uh Paul light ten sixties Jipp. 735 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.360 There was a guy in did it? Yeah. 736 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:08.440 The last name was Boats or some crap I just 737 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:11.000 Relumbroiz call him the beach. 738 00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:12.920 You're not sure an this guy. 739 00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.280 You don't think it's Galdet you're thinking of, do you 740 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:22.039 like with the French name like Gadet? No, that guy, 741 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:23.320 I know that guy. 742 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.760 You know who can ask fully about that guy? But 743 00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.159 you know that guy made a living. He made he 744 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:37.199 would point I forget. However, many so called uh intelligence 745 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:44.880 journals and the KGB would buy half of him. The CIA, 746 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.320 who would buy the other half of them. So the 747 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:52.800 darkness says so in essence, the CIA and the KGB 748 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.519 subsidize this guy's life by fifteen. 749 00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:03.199 Hundred year humm by buying his intelligence reports. 750 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.440 Yeah, they'd buy up every single copy because they settle 751 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.840 by him to get out both sides. 752 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:17.159 Nice. Nice, I wasn't aware of that. I mean, I've 753 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.119 heard rumors about stuff like that, but I never seen 754 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.400 that verified anywhere. I mean stuff like that, not even 755 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:25.679 exactly what you just said, but something similar to it. 756 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.119 Interesting though, So now I guess we don't know about 757 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.599 the boots there outside of you know, his interactions with 758 00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.840 Arnold Jackson. Sorry, b Pete never heard of him. 759 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:37.480 Well, I. 760 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.920 Reply, probably would be very polite, but after the next 761 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.840 time I read my blog before he starts spamming my inbox. 762 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.800 Yeah, next time, read before you start asking people favors 763 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.920 that you shouldn't be asking him. I'd be like somebody saying, 764 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.920 I know you talk about Judy Baker a lot, can 765 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:57.519 you send this to her? Obviously what I thought. 766 00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.880 We talked to Jim Fetzer. I don't think you know 767 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:01.679 awful on this message. 768 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.320 Rite me exactly. Anyway. I'll tell you somebody I never 769 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.639 heard of though at the conference. I think I started 770 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.320 telling this story on Wednesday. But weirdest thing ever this 771 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.280 lady who was, oh my god when she asked questions. 772 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.239 If you watch the conference, the woman who is standing 773 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.360 towards the back of the room so you can't really hear, 774 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.360 and is taking like five minutes to ask questions, telling 775 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:33.079 long stories before really entering a question, really really going 776 00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:37.800 on and on and on, very enthusiastic. Woman looked like 777 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.239 she was maybe you know, like twenty years older than me, 778 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:47.760 but definitely like, you know, into it, wearing a sweatshirt. Anyways, 779 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.800 it turns out and she had approached me and held 780 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.320 me at the bar for a little while when I 781 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.199 was sitting there with Swanson and this other guy woman 782 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.360 to bring on the show soon to talk about Jack Nicholson. 783 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:03.679 But anyways, she she came over and she's telling me long, 784 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.559 long stories. I mean like I'm like zoning out in 785 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.320 the middle of these very long stories. My son did 786 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.119 an Internet search while he was there on his own name, 787 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.039 and of course he's named after my father. So my 788 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.760 father's stuff comes up, and he pulls up a picture 789 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.039 of my father I've never seen before, and I want to. 790 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:25.679 Ask you about that. 791 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.760 Is that the small he said, it looks like a 792 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:34.599 mugstop photo. Yeah, that is his enlistment photo. Okay, you 793 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.800 go in in the military, they take a picture of 794 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:43.039 you and he gets staple to your file. Everybody has one. 795 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:44.440 Now does it have a nameplate? 796 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:44.760 Like? 797 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:50.039 Does yours have a nameplate on it? Okay, yeah, that's yeah, yeah, 798 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.039 all right, that's what I thought because of the haircut. Right. 799 00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.440 I didn't want to say it on air, but that's 800 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.360 what I thought due to the haircut, because it looked 801 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.199 to me like that's not long after you know, they 802 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:04.519 cut his hair down for service. Right. 803 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:05.519 Uh. 804 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.440 So they do it when they run you through the 805 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:08.599 line and they both. 806 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:10.800 Cut you in and give you your uniforms and blah 807 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.079 blah blah, you have to go to get your id's done, 808 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.039 and you hold it up do your military I D. Basically, 809 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.320 it's the kind of that's almost the exact same photo, 810 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:20.800 and you hold up and you hold what they is 811 00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:22.880 when they credit it, Like when they do you license, 812 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.719 it'll print a like two pictures. They'll put one in 813 00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.519 the file. One goes on your license. Well, this is 814 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.679 the same way when they do it. They make your 815 00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:34.679 ID cards at a copy that gets stapled into your 816 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:35.400 promo file. 817 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.719 Okay. And in one instance, you hold up like one 818 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:40.559 of those things where they put the letters of your 819 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.440 name into like a board, and you hold up that 820 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.679 little board that has your name on it now right. 821 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.039 Well yeah, or it's on a stand in front of you, okay, 822 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.719 you know, kind of below you. It's it's like a 823 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.199 bird that's got to hold the ghost like a like 824 00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:00.440 a microphone stand. Okay, you slap out the spend a 825 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:01.920 lot of times. I just hand it to you, tell 826 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:02.440 you a hold of it. 827 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:05.880 Okay, So either way, gotcha. Okay, that's what I thought 828 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.639 it was. But here's the funny thing. I don't have 829 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.000 that photo and I don't know anybody else that has 830 00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:14.880 that photo. But anyway, if you go to his Gravefinder 831 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.000 entry right, there has not been additional stuff added to 832 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:23.960 his grave Finder in many years. And in January of 833 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.920 twenty twenty four, this lady who was at the conference 834 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:33.679 apparently added stuff to his grave Finder listing, including attaching 835 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.320 his obituary, which I knew about his obituary. I had 836 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.639 to go to the Asbury Park Library to find it myself, 837 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:40.880 and I got it out of the Asbury Park Press 838 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.880 Archives because that's where it's from. But she literally attached that, 839 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.079 I think, and this photo which was his enlistment photo, 840 00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:54.519 and I've never acquired that anyway. You know, I have 841 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.480 a military ID card, but it doesn't have the photo 842 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:01.480 on it. It's just a paper card. So anyway, and 843 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.480 I have two versions of it, by the way, that's 844 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.840 another thing, but either way, neither one of them has 845 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.480 a picture on it. So I was a little freaked out. 846 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.960 This woman had worked on my father's site. And there's 847 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.679 a notation if you scroll down on the Grayfinder that 848 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.360 says he is the father of noted jfk assassination researcher 849 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:26.400 Charles o'celly. Well, I didn't enter that information either. 850 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.960 So I was left by Linda on the ninth of January. 851 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.400 See okay, So that Linda there was at the conference, 852 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:40.840 is my point. Now. I had no idea about this 853 00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:45.119 until my son did an Internet search on his own name, okay, 854 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.559 And it was just because he didn't remember, you know what, 855 00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.880 he doesn't remember what his middle name is, and he 856 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:55.960 was asking his mother, Hey, you know, what's my middle 857 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.440 name again? Because I want to search online. And when 858 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.639 he did, that's the first thing that pops up if 859 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.440 you searched my father's first, middle and last name. So 860 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.119 there you go, and that gravefinder thing had not been 861 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.480 touched in years if you looked there. The obituary also 862 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.119 states that you know, look, you see his wife Kathy 863 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.039 is there and his son Charles is at home. 864 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.199 Did you click on her profile? 865 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:27.880 I did, and that I read part of it and 866 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.039 realized that she also doesn't take messages because there's a 867 00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:32.679 thing on there to send her a message, and I 868 00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:39.880 can't send her a message, I see. But anyway, I 869 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.000 was a little weirded out by that because I was like, 870 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:43.840 what in the hell is a woman who was adding 871 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:48.320 information and stuff like this? I mean, apparently, And when 872 00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.159 I looked at it a little closer, I realized she 873 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:58.920 had added information to a lot of Gravefinder entries. But 874 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:03.079 it was just weird to me. And she never mentioned 875 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.920 any of this to me at the conference, but she 876 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.079 was face to face with me, like I said, not 877 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:11.840 only during the conference and asking very long questions and 878 00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.000 stuff like that, and talking to people in between presentations, 879 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.679 but also when I'm sitting there. I forget if it 880 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:22.159 was Saturday or Sunday night. I think it was may 881 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.639 very well have been Sunday night, but it might have 882 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:26.760 been Saturday night. Anyway, one of the nights that I 883 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:31.039 was with Swanson, after you know, everything was over for 884 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:35.840 the day, We're sitting at the hotel bar and actually 885 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:37.840 the bartender I went to go have a cigarette and 886 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.440 they took away my drink. I came back, Mike was 887 00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.599 going to buy me another one, and I said, now 888 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:47.159 I don't worry about it, and yeah, and she came 889 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.920 over when I was going to just, you know, go 890 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.159 ask the bartender why I took my drink. 891 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.960 Well, apparently she's a big bar Camp fan and his 892 00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:57.599 prayer man. 893 00:51:59.039 --> 00:51:59.920 Yeah I read that part. 894 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:06.719 Yeah, right, Just as far as I'm concerned is enough 895 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.880 for not giving a time of bet. 896 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.559 Well, she also calls herself a genealogist, and I don't 897 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.440 know what she's doing anyway. My point is that this 898 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:20.079 is somebody digging around into a personal situation in my life, 899 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:22.519 and it may be that she was just, you know what, 900 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:26.840 kindly filling in military veterans. When I started to look 901 00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.880 at the list of other people's gravefinders she had added to, 902 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.199 I noted there were a few other people that I'm 903 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:37.400 pretty sure in some way connected to other JFK assassination people. Maybe, 904 00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.360 But I found it weird that this year she would 905 00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:45.199 have added something to my father's situation and said nothing 906 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:49.360 to me. You know, And like I said, if you 907 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.039 look at the obituary and you're aware that that's my 908 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.840 father and you put that note in there, and you 909 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.440 also see in the obituary that I'm like the child 910 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:04.519 at home when he died, you know, maybe you might say, hey, 911 00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:08.199 you know, I added something to this or something. I 912 00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.239 don't know. I found the whole time strange. 913 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:15.719 Susan cleaner clings on to people on the periphery, and 914 00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:16.320 you know. 915 00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.360 Well, what was even more bizarre about it is on 916 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.320 Monday morning when we were getting ready to leave. We were, 917 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:26.360 you know, racing around to try and get ready to 918 00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.199 check out. On Monday morning, I go outside to have 919 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.719 a smoke and I'm standing there and all of a sudden, 920 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.800 I hear Chuck o'chelly and somebody's yelling at me from 921 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.079 a vehicle that's, you know, in front of the hotel 922 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.079 and kind of in between where the hotel is and 923 00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:46.039 where the smoking section was, which the smoking section this 924 00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.159 time had a bench and all that. It was actually 925 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:53.719 pretty cool. I go over and it's Gail Nick Jackson's 926 00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.400 husband in a minivan, and I'm like, oh, hey, how 927 00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:01.440 you doing. I always forget his first but anyway, how 928 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.679 you doing? And this and that. He's on the phone 929 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.760 with Gail, you know, like when the car has the 930 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.119 phone call, so like she's on the speakers in the car, 931 00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.719 and so he says, hey, guess who I ran into 932 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.159 waiting out here for. Yeah, he was waiting for Doug Campbell. 933 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:18.719 He was going to take Doug Campbell back to the 934 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:23.840 airport on Monday morning. And so he's like, yeah, guess 935 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.519 who I ran into. Chuck O'kelly's sitting out here, So, 936 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:28.760 you know, Gail Hi chuck this and that, because I 937 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.519 had actually sat down with her on her presentation this year, 938 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.280 you know, and and helped her along with it a 939 00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:39.840 little bit. Anyways, Yeah, how you doing, Gail this and that? 940 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.480 I told her the short version of that story that 941 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:46.679 I told you guys now, and she said, oh, I said, 942 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.159 and she's Linda something. And I don't know the last 943 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.239 name right now as I speak to you, but but 944 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.880 she blurted out the last name and she's like, you 945 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.719 know whatever it was. I said, yeah, that's it. And 946 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:03.960 Gail goes, oh, I know her. I said, well, hell, 947 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:09.000 I don't. And I found this very very strange. So 948 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:12.800 she's like, well, let me give her a call and 949 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.559 see if she's left the hotel yet. I said, okay, Gail, 950 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.199 go right ahead, and I, you know, finished smoking my 951 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.760 cigarette and Doug came and he had to get to 952 00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.239 the airport, so they left and I never heard back. 953 00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.519 So I don't know if Gail called her or what 954 00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.599 came of that or anything else. All I know is 955 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.920 that I felt really strange about this afterwards. And what 956 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:38.760 is her name be, Pete? You have it in front 957 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:38.880 of you. 958 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.360 Oh no, but I can call it right back. All 959 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.840 it said was Linda on the profile. I don't think 960 00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:46.960 it had a last name. 961 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.039 Well, here's the funny thing. I confirmed because she looked 962 00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.880 different than that picture that you see there, you know, 963 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.639 at the conference. So I took the picture and the 964 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.440 name in Kim's phone and sent it over to Gabby 965 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:07.800 and I said, does his name match an attendee at 966 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:15.280 the conference? And Gabby text back and said, yes, somebody. 967 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:15.840 Had a ten dollars. 968 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:16.719 She doesn't. 969 00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:18.880 Yeah, she doesn't have a last name. 970 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.159 And it says up there to top not accepting. 971 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:27.239 Messages, which I find that weird. She wants to add 972 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.639 to nine hundred and twenty seven memorials. Right, he says 973 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:31.960 doesn't accept messages. 974 00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.719 Okay. Would you feel strange if somebody was adding to 975 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:43.519 a memorial like that? Okay? And also, you know this 976 00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.000 involves me plus that notation of noting that you know, 977 00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:51.039 he's the father of a noted JFK researcher. I didn't 978 00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:55.119 put that note there. Once again, I say she must have. 979 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:57.760 Yeah, but by doing that, by doing that, you know, 980 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.760 she can claim, oh, yeah, I added a website. And 981 00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:02.880 you know, maybe people comment about Chuck being you know, 982 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.280 Jeff the researcher and blah blah blah. See it's like 983 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.960 I said, it's you know, the people like that wand 984 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:12.920 that hang around. You know, eventually you notice they may 985 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.199 not be hanging around anymore. But I'm sure that's how 986 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.280 she you know, if she had been with Bart Camp. 987 00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:19.920 You know, that's what gets me. She says that she 988 00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.559 helped that identify many of the people standing in the 989 00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:26.320 doorway of the school book depository. And I'm sitting there thinking, 990 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:28.840 maybe I don't know where you're coming from, but there's 991 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.599 a whole bunch of photography evidence out there that people 992 00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:34.760 have been put together for years and years and years 993 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:39.719 identifying people. You know, So just how much how much 994 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:41.920 did you add to Bart's fantasy? 995 00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.039 So I don't know, but you know, but she claimed 996 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.119 I think she claims that did he credit her in 997 00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:47.639 that book? 998 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:49.760 I don't know. 999 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.400 I was unclear about that as I skimmed through that 1000 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:56.159 part of it, you know. And and look, I made 1001 00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:58.519 my statement about that. I think it's very interesting what 1002 00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.159 Bart had to say, But at the end end of 1003 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.280 the day, it's still just a blurry picture. It really is. 1004 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:06.760 And no, I don't agree that all that. 1005 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.920 Look, that's there's a whole lot more to it than that. 1006 00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:17.719 Whatever you say, Jimmy, but not really you. 1007 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:19.280 Know what I say. 1008 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:26.920 It's it's there's only so many people that could be chuck. Okay, 1009 00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:31.159 I got it. Could be people on the planet or who. 1010 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.440 Was it that is prayer man? 1011 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:37.719 That's right? 1012 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:43.719 Okay, Well every single now keep it hold on, I'm 1013 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:44.840 still speaking. 1014 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:48.599 The way I go ahead. I'm interrupting you. 1015 00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:53.599 Good after single every single employer there said what. 1016 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:55.000 They see you know what? 1017 00:58:55.599 --> 00:59:01.079 No strangers. They had to be similar work there. Who 1018 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.079 was the deefy drunk guy or was it eyes walk? 1019 00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:09.480 He's on on a T shirt and dog ease and 1020 00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:10.679 tipping a coat. 1021 00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:13.119 I mean, there's are clues. 1022 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:19.800 Uh. Well, look I'm not gonna have the prayer man 1023 00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:23.440 argument with you. It's just you want. You want. 1024 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.960 What he believes in the straight is Jimmy saying that 1025 00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:31.039 he puts faith in this poor man. 1026 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:33.239 I believe that is what he's saying. 1027 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.119 I believe that is what I'm saying. 1028 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.960 Feeling me in the hook is set? Really didn't. 1029 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:43.559 Hit him on the boat? 1030 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:44.360 Really did? 1031 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:46.800 Who worked? 1032 00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:47.280 Yeah? 1033 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.320 You fish? Somebody just cooked you hook line? You take it, 1034 00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.719 hook line and sinker reel him in, get him on 1035 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.440 the boat, Let's go away him all right? 1036 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.239 Any walk him? 1037 01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.920 Why I came to believe that Oswald was per man 1038 01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:10.039 as he his own damn testimony and the process of elimination. 1039 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:12.719 I am not going to do part. 1040 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:19.320 Can't. How do you figure his own testimony? What testimony 1041 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.800 did Oswald is out there? 1042 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.119 I asked a question, if you ain't gonna up. 1043 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:33.519 Here, well, no, I want to clarify my question. What 1044 01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:39.480 testimony did Oswald give anybody? That he was starting out 1045 01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:42.239 front when Kennedy was shot. 1046 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.920 That's what he called captain? 1047 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.159 The only thing I know. 1048 01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:56.760 Any statements attributed to Oswald do not put him out. 1049 01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.719 They specifically asked him if he saw what went on. 1050 01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.000 He said no, he was in the building. 1051 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.000 Well, he said he didn't see the parade. But there's 1052 01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:08.159 a note that Fritz made. There's a note that Fritz 1053 01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:13.280 made which says, just in sure standing outside with Bill Shelley. 1054 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.199 I think, and it's. 1055 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:18.559 Another he said out fault with Bris Shelley. 1056 01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:21.800 There you go at what he told everybody was after 1057 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.800 the CD when he left the building, that's when he 1058 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.039 saw Bill Shelley, and Shelley told him I wouldn't be 1059 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:28.480 able to work for the rest of the day. 1060 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.719 Well, I'm just telling you that I know that Fritz 1061 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.760 made a note that said something to that effect, and 1062 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.199 I've seen it before, and I could quote it if 1063 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.119 I had seen it recently, but I have not seen 1064 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.039 it in a long time. But there's just that note 1065 01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:43.440 as far as I know. That's the only thing I 1066 01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:45.199 don't believe anywhere else. 1067 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:49.400 I would point out. 1068 01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:54.239 I know that Hoover got some stuff wrong, but that's 1069 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:59.280 also what he told LBJ. The man said, I'll take 1070 01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:04.239 the director was just telling ab Town and I'll be 1071 01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:06.800 Jason Tonny's stories. 1072 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.199 Well, no, but he did had a lot of he 1073 01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:11.920 had a lot of things wrong. I think he said 1074 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.079 the fourth floor of the bookstore, uh. 1075 01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:21.320 Right before he got the stuff wrong, But that was 1076 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:25.719 also pretty Yeah, he got some stuff wrong. It could 1077 01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:32.079 be already said that wrong. But lea that matches that 1078 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:36.320 note and matches his things that people heard it. He said, 1079 01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:40.800 that's what he told the man. He don't believe, Deputy Craig. 1080 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.800 You don't like Deputy Greg, do you be? 1081 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:49.239 People now has nothing to do with it. You look 1082 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:53.199 at all of the evidence that you can find anywhere today, 1083 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.480 any statement attributed to Oswald. He did not see the shooting. 1084 01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.239 He was in the building. So how do you put 1085 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.400 him out front, out front long enough to be standing 1086 01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:06.039 there before the parade? Ever shuts up? 1087 01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.719 I love you said, he seeing only shooting. They asked 1088 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.599 him what he was doing. He said, he stepped out 1089 01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.079 and swatched the president dragged by and went back in. 1090 01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:23.760 And that's what he did. 1091 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:25.920 Who did he? 1092 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:31.360 Where that was said? Where that was attributed to Oswald? 1093 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.840 And I'd be happy you change my mind if you 1094 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:34.599 can show it to me. 1095 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:35.159 Where was that? 1096 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:39.440 Sometimes that bouncing around for years, There is no evidence 1097 01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:43.280 whatsoever that Oswald told anybody he was outside of that 1098 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:44.480 building when it happened. 1099 01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.519 I mean outside of that note that prints. 1100 01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:50.400 You want to be pactical. 1101 01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:07.440 In law ordered, Yeah, there was videotaped so unfortantly robe 1102 01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:14.239 Wood that Oswald said. Other than by all these conflicting testimonies, 1103 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.360 I prefer to go by what was actually written down. 1104 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:21.840 I don't know. Well, there was there was stuff written 1105 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:25.320 down by that postmaster who showed up forget his name 1106 01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.800 off the top of my head, but you know that 1107 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.519 guy was there during the questioning, right, He had taken 1108 01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.239 some notes of what was said today. 1109 01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:33.599 For the. 1110 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:40.639 He notes. Even then in his notes he puts in 1111 01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:44.119 that Oswalt was in the building. Jimmy said that he 1112 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:48.800 based his decision on Oswalt's testimony. I'm choosed to know 1113 01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:52.880 exactly what specific testimony and where is it written down 1114 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:54.719 so that he can serve me. You can even give 1115 01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:56.559 me a copy of it, and I will take it 1116 01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.599 into consideration. But to this day, no one as any 1117 01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.639 evidence whatsoever that Oswald claimed to be outside when. 1118 01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:05.559 The shooting took place. 1119 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:08.519 And if he did, why didn't when they asked him 1120 01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:09.800 in the hallway were you. 1121 01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:11.719 In the building? He says, oh, I worked there. 1122 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.840 Of course I was in the building, all right. 1123 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.199 Why when he said that he was a patsy do 1124 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:19.840 you not say I was standing out front? Why did 1125 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.079 he not verbally when he had a chance to say 1126 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:25.000 it and people were recorded what he said live, why 1127 01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:26.719 didn't he say it, I wasn't there? 1128 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.320 Well? His answer was, naturally, I was in the building. 1129 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:33.719 I worked there, right. Wasn't that about answer exactly? 1130 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:37.199 But what I'm saying is the incidents when they already 1131 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.519 had a separate incidents. When I bought him in the hallway, 1132 01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:42.639 he made the comment he was just a patsy. But 1133 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:44.639 if he was just a patsy, he could have very 1134 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:47.159 easily said, I wasn't there. I wasn't in the building, 1135 01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:50.159 plainly simple. I would have all gone away right then 1136 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.880 and there. He always claimed to be in the building 1137 01:05:54.039 --> 01:06:00.440 when the shooting took place. I want, Jimmy K where 1138 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:07.079 was Hosbald? Then the building? Okay, we're at. 1139 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.239 According to him, he was on. 1140 01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:13.280 I think it was the first time they went up 1141 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.320 to get a drink and walked through the office to 1142 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:18.440 get a drink. That's when they were going up the 1143 01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.679 stairs in the back of the place. He always claimed 1144 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:23.920 to be in the building. Asked him if he saw 1145 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:24.480 the parade. 1146 01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:24.880 He said no. 1147 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:28.800 If he's standing there fucking the bring away the depository. 1148 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:29.679 How did he not see the parade? 1149 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:35.760 I remember he called Garry clearly. I stepped out from 1150 01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:38.760 him then and watched the Times went drying bray by 1151 01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:45.239 Bill Shelley. Bill Shell always he'll Shelley AVIDU wait wait. 1152 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.880 Wait wait, Bill Shelley stepped out. He was see he 1153 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.519 was out there with Lovely When. 1154 01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:54.800 I was falling on the side, he sat down. 1155 01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.519 All right, So where was Osbald? 1156 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:01.280 Was the was he shooting. 1157 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:04.639 No, I don't think he was shooting. 1158 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.679 I don't wire that. I didn't eve. 1159 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:14.920 Years later, but he was involved somehow. 1160 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:20.440 See if Baker ran into him within ninety seconds, right, Uh. 1161 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:24.440 That kind of I don't go with the ninety seconds fit. 1162 01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.079 Okay, what time do you give it for Baker to 1163 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:28.800 run into him? 1164 01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.400 I don't it's it's I don't know, And it's hard 1165 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:33.559 to track down because and I've made that comment instead 1166 01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.239 of a blog posts, everybody walks around thinking that everybody 1167 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:38.719 had an atmic clock up their ass and could tell 1168 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.039 you exactly how many seconds it was before I did 1169 01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:42.960 this or before I did that in the. 1170 01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:43.679 End of the moment. 1171 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:46.519 Within ninety seconds, I don't know. It could have been 1172 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.800 a little longer, could have been a minute, fifteen seconds, 1173 01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:50.480 it could have or could have been a minute. 1174 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:51.519 It could have been two minutes. 1175 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.280 Well, can't we see Baker on a film throwing down 1176 01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.760 his bike? I'm pretty serve him. 1177 01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:05.440 You see him, and don't go in and literally bowling 1178 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.679 people over, pushing their heads, running into the building. 1179 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:11.239 Damn mirror. 1180 01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:15.199 As soon as the shots rang out, Well, then. 1181 01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:20.439 Let's put him at the counter. He goes inside, he 1182 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.800 means really, truly, they go from there to the back, 1183 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:29.119 they go up the stairs. Was it ninety seconds or 1184 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:31.680 was it one hundred and twenty seconds? 1185 01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:35.039 No, I don't know. 1186 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:39.039 I don't claim to know. It was probably close to 1187 01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:42.039 within a couple of minutes, But we don't know how 1188 01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.239 many seconds he spent there talking to truly before they 1189 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.000 went to the back and then see, because they also 1190 01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:51.479 tried the elevators. Elevators weren't working, so that's why they 1191 01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.600 went up the stairs. One thing is is that ninety 1192 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:59.239 seconds is not their tight people somewhere within ninety seconds, 1193 01:08:59.279 --> 01:08:59.920 it could have been more. 1194 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.199 It could have been less, could have been eighty seconds. 1195 01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.600 We don't know, but I know there was. There's enough 1196 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.000 time there for Oswald to go up the front way 1197 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.680 to the hallway, and that's why he got seen when 1198 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:16.960 they turned the corner to go up the stairs. Truly, 1199 01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:19.079 he had already started up the stairs on the floor 1200 01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.560 with the lunch room. The cop was behind him. There's 1201 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.840 a window in the door. He happened to see Oswald 1202 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.880 walk by from the front business office through the short 1203 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:32.239 hallway back to the low room, and that's why he 1204 01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:36.760 went towards the lunch room. He saw Oswald walk by 1205 01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:38.800 that glass in the window, in the door. 1206 01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:44.600 It's logical, okay, So if you can logically cut down 1207 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:48.960 about how long it took Baker to get there, right 1208 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:55.560 then it reduces exactly where Oswald could have been. You know, 1209 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:58.680 he simply doesn't have time to get there. If you 1210 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.119 can figure out that it's it's two minutes later. If 1211 01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:02.600 you can figure out it's a minute and a half, 1212 01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:05.079 If you can figure out it's two and a half minutes, 1213 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:08.439 there's certain places he can't get from to that position. 1214 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.000 They calmly, I agree with you. I agree with you. 1215 01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:14.439 So while I don't think that, I don't think Oswald 1216 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.279 was upstairs taking starts. 1217 01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:20.239 No, that's one thing that that's what you said right then. 1218 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:22.479 That's why I said for Baker to run into him 1219 01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.640 that quickly. Now I go with the ninety seconds because 1220 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.720 it's the most common answer. But your points are all 1221 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.239 well taken. It could be a little longer, it could 1222 01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:32.760 be a little shorter, I get it. 1223 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:36.439 Not only that, Not only that, if Oswald was standing 1224 01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:39.800 how fun in the doorway did he go in the 1225 01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:45.079 door before the police officer or after? Because he's got 1226 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:48.680 it's a shorter trip well, technically it's a shorter trip 1227 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:50.920 if you don't stop to wait for elevators in that 1228 01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:54.359 so he would have gone in the front door, up 1229 01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:58.520 the front of the through the office. 1230 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.000 So how you mean that? 1231 01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:05.399 Look a look at the parade. 1232 01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:07.159 He took a look at. 1233 01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:10.760 The parade and walked back into the Domino room. 1234 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:13.000 Well, is it so damn. 1235 01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:13.800 Hard to understand? 1236 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.000 It's not hard to understand because it didn't happen. The 1237 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:21.239 gentleman who was at the back of that pack, I 1238 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.600 forget his name. He was one of the murders there. 1239 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:26.760 He was the last man in the dollaway. He was 1240 01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:30.239 the furthest one back. They asked him specifically if he 1241 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:35.159 saw as that. He said no, Well, because. 1242 01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:44.720 Why can't I'm going to say that. 1243 01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:51.920 Just try not to talk over each other one way 1244 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:58.680 or another. Please take your turns, that's all. Oh, Jimmy, good, Jimmy. 1245 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:06.760 Okay, Well the fuck wasn't it. Why don't you understand 1246 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:11.439 that these people were staring at a presidential parade? The 1247 01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:16.319 man Oswald walked out of the launch room, drinking his 1248 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:22.119 cow as the car time looked at it. When they 1249 01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:26.079 were looking at it, they weren't looking back at the building. 1250 01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:30.079 Why they were looking at the parade, Why would. 1251 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:34.680 They look at Oswald? Even if he then had seen Oswald, 1252 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:39.479 they wouldn't have registered Oswald because it's just Oswald. 1253 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.760 Duh? Why is that a. 1254 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:46.800 Complicated, hard controversial. 1255 01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:51.760 I wanted I'll answer your Question's what for him to 1256 01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:57.119 go out that door as shallow as that front porch was, 1257 01:12:57.279 --> 01:12:59.680 he would have had to have gone right in front 1258 01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:03.600 of somebody. He would have been standing there talking to them, 1259 01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:07.479 because apparently, looking at the film, he was out there. 1260 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:10.560 You say he was out there drinking a coke and yes, 1261 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:14.000 there was a bottle found down there later on the 1262 01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:18.600 side of the rear next to the steps. He would 1263 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.279 have had to have walked past everybody that was at 1264 01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:23.960 the back of that group to get into that corner. 1265 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:26.840 And are you telling me that in the sixty some 1266 01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:30.359 odd years since this happened, no one has come out 1267 01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:34.000 and said, that's Oswald in the corner. He was there 1268 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:38.399 the whole time. No one Why as there's such an 1269 01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:41.800 intimidation factor that all of these people standing. 1270 01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.079 On that doorway that had a chance to see Oswald. 1271 01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.119 Would not bring up the fact that, hey, wait a minute, 1272 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:49.560 you know, if you guys are refusing Oswald this, he 1273 01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:53.319 was out there with us. Nobody puts him out there, 1274 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:57.439 no one, even people that don't have a vested interest 1275 01:13:57.520 --> 01:13:57.720 in it. 1276 01:13:58.199 --> 01:13:58.399 You know. 1277 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.319 How he got all those people? No one saw him. 1278 01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:07.520 I will tell you one weird occurrence where somebody does 1279 01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:09.880 say he was outside, but it couldn't have been in 1280 01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:13.520 the prayer man position based on this, and that is 1281 01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:17.760 that if you remember doing the mock trial, Will Wesley 1282 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:23.079 Fraser says Oswald is in that doorway, not the you know, 1283 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:28.560 not the love Lady character, but he says that he's 1284 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:33.600 behind him, which is weird. During that mock trial, and 1285 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:37.960 Bill Wesley Fraser claimed to be out there too. Nowadays 1286 01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:40.039 he's got an open story about Arstaw. 1287 01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:42.079 Have to go back and check all that you say. 1288 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:44.680 In the mock trial, he said Oswalt was behind him. 1289 01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.239 Yeah, they asked he was behind love Lady somehow because 1290 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:51.119 they asked him, is this Oswald in the doorway? And 1291 01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:55.199 he said, no, that's Bill Lovelady. But Oswald is further 1292 01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:57.760 back there. How do you know that? Because I was 1293 01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:02.199 back there. It's very weird, and it's it's in his 1294 01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:05.640 testimony though. Check it out. That's the only contradiction. 1295 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:09.920 I've ever really knew another. Yeah, sorry, And there's another 1296 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:15.439 picture of a guy in dungarees and T shirt. You 1297 01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:20.359 could see him being talked to by a cop right 1298 01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:25.279 inside the window, and one frame sure looks like Oswald. 1299 01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:27.960 Really, I'd love to see that frame. 1300 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:28.439 Do you know. 1301 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.239 Which photographs I'd have to look at to find it 1302 01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:34.199 or which film? 1303 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.560 Oh my god, I'll have the Jack or Google Drive 1304 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:39.439 to find it, but I will find it. 1305 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:41.800 Yeah, please do. I'd love to see it. You know. Look, 1306 01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:45.279 I'm willing to take a look at anything that is 1307 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:50.239 outside of the official explanation, But prayer man, I do. 1308 01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:53.359 I'm aware of a picture. I'm aware of a picture 1309 01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.239 that shows a guy standing down the steps talking to 1310 01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.920 a cop that people claiming look like Osway, But that 1311 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:01.760 was right after the fat Oswald was already gone by then. 1312 01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:04.560 But I haven't seen one where he's actually in the building. 1313 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.560 But if you remember correctly, when he was leaving, who 1314 01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:11.000 was the reporter that said he saw Oswald on the 1315 01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:15.199 way out, Oswalt told him where the phones were have 1316 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.000 been a photo taken during that time when he's talking 1317 01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.199 to somebody Oswaldalt was an FBI guy, But he was 1318 01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:21.720 a reporter. 1319 01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:23.159 Was that Robin. 1320 01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:29.439 Was the PBS guy Neil and an old Lair warmon 1321 01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:36.680 Jim Lair? Maybe, yeah, but I don't believe that that 1322 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:38.560 guy not product him. 1323 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:40.880 You don't believe the reporter. 1324 01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:51.439 I don't believe that account because something what was it? 1325 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:53.960 Oh? 1326 01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:57.600 Yeah, he's full of stories. He also says that he 1327 01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:02.640 watched Walter Krinkik just crying before he did the law. 1328 01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:04.640 He's just a ship talker. 1329 01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.920 Well, that guy will cease. Well that that's weird because 1330 01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:10.359 the guy that would have been going for the phone 1331 01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:15.479 I think was calling NBC, and Walter Kronkit was on CBS, 1332 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:17.640 so I don't know how he watched that, and they 1333 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:19.680 didn't even have the cameras warmed up. That's why you 1334 01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:22.720 see the CBS logo on the initial JFK announcement. So 1335 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.520 nobody saw Walter conkait that outside of New York. 1336 01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:32.479 There's two guys Chuck Chuck, the guys one of the yeah, 1337 01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:37.640 I'm saying, McLear, and the other dude they were talking 1338 01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:41.039 about Jack Kay. One of them was elsewhere and one 1339 01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:46.239 was in Dallas, right, the guy with Dallas, Yeah, he 1340 01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.760 says he's seen as well. I don't believe that cry. 1341 01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:52.920 And then the guy that says that he was wherever 1342 01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:58.880 Conkkite was and the Kankkite was reversing, crying and all that. 1343 01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:02.960 I don't they believe that, gay, No. 1344 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:03.600 I don't be The. 1345 01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:09.479 Ball of the story is TBS is saving. 1346 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:12.680 Okay, fair enough, But the guy wasn't on PBS at 1347 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.920 the time, right, he was on NBC, right, because it 1348 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:18.800 was Robin McNeill. 1349 01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:23.840 Was locked or wasn't even such a bayless PB aspect. 1350 01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:28.039 Then this was all up thirty forty years after the fact. 1351 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:30.880 Well, they did that public radio back then, but they 1352 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.960 I guess they didn't have the PBS network exactly. 1353 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:39.960 Okay, they had public broadcasts stuff, but it just wasn't 1354 01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:46.600 called PPS. It's called something else, Yeah, something dumping system. 1355 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:52.600 Animal fair enough, but look either way, the guy I 1356 01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:54.800 think you're thinking it was Robin McNeil and that guy 1357 01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:57.880 if you remember the thing on NBC when they're passing 1358 01:18:57.880 --> 01:18:59.880 around that black box and trying to attach it to 1359 01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:04.159 the phone on NBC during the live you know, cut 1360 01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:07.359 to when they finally turned on the and started putting 1361 01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:09.800 a videotape in so that they could record it. Because 1362 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.439 at first you know, they only have audio of NBC's 1363 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:16.199 TV report because somebody forgotten to put a videotape in 1364 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:20.479 and the audio was being carried on radio stations. That's 1365 01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:23.880 the only reason why that was recorded. Anyway, when they 1366 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:26.359 finally do get around to it, if you remember, very 1367 01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:29.000 shortly thereafter, they're trying to get a live report from 1368 01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:31.800 Dallas from somebody who's on the phone, and they've got 1369 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:34.680 this black box they're trying to put on the phones 1370 01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:37.399 and it keeps meeting back and giving them trouble and 1371 01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:41.199 all this mess. Anyways, Look, if anybody else wants to 1372 01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:43.960 call in, and of course we could break with another topic, 1373 01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:46.479 anyone of any kind. I mean, we've been on now 1374 01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:48.960 almost an hour and a half, an hour and twenty anyway, 1375 01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:54.560 doing this discussion already. But you out there listening right 1376 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.039 now could call join in and you're you know, carry 1377 01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:00.960 on this discussion or take it further. If not, we'll 1378 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:02.960 go back to Jimmy James. But I put them on 1379 01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:05.880 hold for now, and uh eight, we don't have to 1380 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:10.079 talk all JMK. We can talk about anything, anything at all. 1381 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:12.920 Matter of fact, I have a Trump story. Maybe we 1382 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.279 should go over. It's a little weird watching the media 1383 01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:20.840 beginning to bend and change at the moment, because you know, 1384 01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:23.239 it sounds to me like I don't know, people are 1385 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.079 starting to change their minds about certain things when it 1386 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:30.600 comes to this past selection. Then again, maybe it's my imagination. 1387 01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:34.039 But the things that I told you and predicted, I 1388 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:37.880 stick to them. And we'll take a break. Three one nine, five, 1389 01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:41.119 two seven, five zero one six Join us if you 1390 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:45.079 want to end the open mic of Friday Night will return. 1391 01:20:45.159 --> 01:21:05.600 A revelation through conversation. 1392 01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:06.960 Do you like history? 1393 01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:10.760 Real history that you were never taught in schools? Why 1394 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:15.479 the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in nation Building in Southeast 1395 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:20.079 Asia by author Mike Swanson, with new documentation never seen 1396 01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:23.399 before that'll open your eyes to events that led up 1397 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:27.600 to this. 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Thank 1455 01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:28.199 you uncle. 1456 01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:31.199 Do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said that 1457 01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:34.880 an Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninja's to 1458 01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:36.239 take down the Illuminati? 1459 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.359 Oh that's interesting, Yeah in the klatoon? 1460 01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:40.159 Yeah? 1461 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:41.720 Did that ever work out too good? 1462 01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:42.119 No? 1463 01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:46.720 It didn't, did it? But here on o'celly dot com 1464 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:49.119 radio network, things work out a bit better, don't they 1465 01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:50.000 much better? 1466 01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:55.279 I mean, it's clear and understanding about the programs the 1467 01:27:55.439 --> 01:28:01.399 programs much clearer getting live people into wait, they really 1468 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:03.359 have a good conversation going. 1469 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:05.399 Much better, much better scene. 1470 01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:08.840 I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninches and listen 1471 01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:11.199 to the o'chelly dot com radio network. 1472 01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:14.720 I agree, it's straight to the point, straight talk, and 1473 01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:16.119 I like that idea. 1474 01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:24.920 O chilly dot collet ready get ready for. 1475 01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:33.600 Hey, hey, segment number two of the live open mic 1476 01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:36.800 Friday night. And hopefully it's not overdriven and too loud 1477 01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.640 there on the broadcast. And if you're catching the podcast 1478 01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:43.000 to this, man, I really wish you were here live 1479 01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:48.000 because I've got at least uh what twenty twenty five. 1480 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:50.840 I'll go thirty more minutes right now, that's a guarantee, 1481 01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:53.600 but if more people call in, I'll go longer tonight. 1482 01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.640 So far, only Jimmy James has joined us, and he 1483 01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:59.119 asked a little something about the conference and told us 1484 01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:02.439 that he believes in prayer man, you know, and we 1485 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:04.840 had a little argument between myself and him and then 1486 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:08.960 repeating him. But we don't have to do JMK stuff. 1487 01:29:09.319 --> 01:29:11.079 I mean, I can tell you more about the conference. 1488 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.159 I was a little disturbed by the fact that, you know, 1489 01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:20.159 the moment of silence had to be, you know, invaded 1490 01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:23.520 by people trying to block traffic on Elm Street. I 1491 01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:26.439 was also disturbed by the fact that Judy Baker has 1492 01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:31.720 now made herself part of the memorial there lovely and 1493 01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:35.319 she's on stage, you know, telling people about all the 1494 01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:38.119 wonderful things. How we got to take these fresh American 1495 01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:40.600 flags that they handed out to people, go put them 1496 01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.479 on the Kennedy Memorial over there, and all that good stuff. 1497 01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:46.520 And here's your moment of silence, and then Q A 1498 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:49.479 and on is going to block the street. I don't 1499 01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.119 even know what they were protesting. I mean, this particular year, 1500 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:57.560 they weren't waiting for JFK Junior, right anyway, it was 1501 01:29:57.720 --> 01:29:59.680 what it was. It is what it is, and you 1502 01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:02.680 might we have something entirely different on your mind. In fact, 1503 01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:05.039 maybe you want to tell me about the Turkey Deep Pride, 1504 01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:10.399 whatever it is. Call in three one nine, five two 1505 01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:13.720 seven five zero one six three one nine five two 1506 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:16.760 seven five zero one six. And if you don't call in, 1507 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:18.359 I'm going to have to give all the rest of 1508 01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:22.640 the airtime devoted to callers to Jimmy James. And that's 1509 01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:26.000 the way that is. But if Mora join. Maybe we'll 1510 01:30:26.039 --> 01:30:31.239 go longer. How about that, b Pete? Any other news 1511 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:33.399 that we might want to get to before we uh, 1512 01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:36.159 you know, wind up running completely out of time on something. 1513 01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:41.640 Uh Now, one time I've been bounce around trying to 1514 01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:42.920 find this. 1515 01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:46.239 Oh, I do want to give a clarification to gentlemen 1516 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:50.039 that I were talking about that were with news agencies. 1517 01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:53.039 Was Pierce Halmon and Terrence Forward. Now you wanted me 1518 01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:55.840 to look up Robert McNeil, and I just looked up 1519 01:30:55.880 --> 01:30:58.560 a a mention of him. He was actually home with 1520 01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:01.760 the press. Boss went and looked behind the stockade fence. 1521 01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:03.840 He says he went to the building about four minutes 1522 01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:05.439 after and saw Oswald when. 1523 01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.279 He went through, right. But he's the first guy I 1524 01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:12.840 remember ever asking Oswald where the phones were, So he asked, 1525 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:15.119 and it's. 1526 01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:18.479 Weird because they talk about phones, you know. 1527 01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.800 That was something that Bill Shelley claimed he did in 1528 01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:24.560 his original police report. Was after they came after they 1529 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:27.600 went part way down the road and came back and 1530 01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:29.640 saw the young lady that came up and said he 1531 01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:30.239 had been shot. 1532 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:32.880 He immediately went back in and called his wife. 1533 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:37.560 It was only after people found out that Oswald said 1534 01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:40.239 that he saw Bill Shelley and loved Lady out front, 1535 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.279 that the whole story changed about oh no, we went 1536 01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:45.880 down and checked out the tracks and what came in 1537 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:49.640 the back door blah blah blah. But in his initial report, 1538 01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:52.760 Bill Shelley says it immediately after this happened, he went 1539 01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:54.960 back inside and called his wife to tell her what 1540 01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:58.880 had happened. But McNeil is that a big discrepancy? 1541 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.479 Sure? But McNeil is the guy that I was talking 1542 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.399 about where he's trying to call into NBC and he 1543 01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.800 ends up on that red black box thing and then 1544 01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:09.119 finally they figure out the way to patch the phone 1545 01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:10.399 call straight through to on air. 1546 01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:14.520 But at first apparently there was a payphone in the lobby, 1547 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:18.119 but people were on the payphone. In fact, that's where 1548 01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:24.319 Almon called in to WFAA. McNeil I think he certinted 1549 01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:28.760 him back to the collar where there was also phones, 1550 01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:30.800 and then there was phones, you know, in Shelly's office 1551 01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:34.640 and Truvy's office and things like that. So yeah, you know, 1552 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:38.000 I don't know specifically which phone. I'd have to do 1553 01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:40.319 some research and find out which twenty set he used. 1554 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.479 Yeah, because some guy, I mean, obviously people clogged up 1555 01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:45.760 the payphone, and there was like one or two payphones 1556 01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:49.399 in the building, I guess for public use. And then 1557 01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:51.720 some of the officers, like you said, had phones in them. 1558 01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:54.399 Matter of fact, I don't think all the officers had phones, 1559 01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:57.359 but there was probably one there. And the guy, you know, 1560 01:32:57.560 --> 01:32:59.760 was saying, I'm from NBC. You know I need to 1561 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:02.520 call New York. That guy might have gotten, you know, 1562 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:05.680 used to a phone. So I'm thinking McNeil might have 1563 01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:07.520 been the guy who asked to use an office phone. 1564 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:10.680 I don't know, or maybe he was the FAA guy 1565 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:12.720 because they'd be familiar with the local team. I'm from 1566 01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:14.640 your local TV station and that would have been a 1567 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:17.439 bigger deal in sixty three. Maybe that's the guy. 1568 01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:21.159 Yeah, And all this was going on while Truey was 1569 01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:23.439 trooping up the steers up to the roof. 1570 01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:27.119 Right, and then eventually you get Russ Wise, right, who 1571 01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:29.840 ends up that's the FAA guy, right, the guy who 1572 01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:31.720 was He's like, I'm sorry, I'm out of breath. I 1573 01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:35.479 just came back and the vision's been shot, and right, 1574 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:40.000 and he winds up interviewing Bill Bill and Gail Newman 1575 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:44.920 and uh and and later on Abraham subruter, I think, 1576 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.640 and uh, you know, and stuff like that in the studio. 1577 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:51.399 But that's after they cut into the feed, right, because 1578 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:55.760 before that they were broadcasting the National Soap Opera at 1579 01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:56.479 the moment. 1580 01:33:57.800 --> 01:34:01.520 Anyway, Yeah, and that was something and I, you know, 1581 01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:05.560 not I don't enjoy getting into it, Virginia, of things 1582 01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.079 like this, but it's this is something that I completely 1583 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:10.800 went in death, I mean's super in depth on a 1584 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:14.520 blog post when I started taking on Jered McKnight's breach 1585 01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:17.199 of trust and the claims that he made him there, 1586 01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:19.840 which generally, sorry, I've got it. 1587 01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:23.720 Yeah, generally I liked Gerald mcnight's book when I first 1588 01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:27.359 read it, but you know, a few things fell apart 1589 01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:32.359 as I looked into them myself. And I don't remember 1590 01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:34.359 his claim as to where Ozma was because I got 1591 01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:36.199 caught up on a bunch of other things, you know 1592 01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:38.199 what I mean, And it's. 1593 01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:43.199 Wrong, and I seen about when I forget him that 1594 01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:45.640 i'd have to scroll through. But when the one lady 1595 01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.920 that worked there said that she supposedly ripped back and 1596 01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:53.640 saw Oswald and it was this time and they. 1597 01:34:53.640 --> 01:34:56.840 Really that the FBI actually changed her statement. 1598 01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:03.239 And she wasn't Carolyn Arnold. You know, there was some different. 1599 01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:06.199 Stories about what she claimed and this and that. 1600 01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:09.319 Apparently the FBI changed her statement and she didn't know 1601 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:13.560 about it until years later when somebody showed. 1602 01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:13.800 It to her. 1603 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:16.600 In fact, in the article that was in the news, 1604 01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:20.319 she explained her shop. The FBI attributed the turning false 1605 01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:23.520 narrative of Oswald being on the first floor to her, 1606 01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:29.279 and when she saw it, it's just kind of theater 1607 01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:32.159 that they would make those statements. And this was years 1608 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:35.079 after I'm trying to nineteen seventy eight, I think was 1609 01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:39.800 when the article came out, or Bolts with the Dallas 1610 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:42.960 Wanting News actually did the interviews with herren Ol. When 1611 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:44.760 he pointed this out to hers, he goes, oh wait 1612 01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:48.279 a minute, said, I didn't say anything like that, And 1613 01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:51.359 I dissected and actually get copies of the statements that 1614 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:54.800 were made. It was one of my longer blog posts 1615 01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:57.119 I really had. It was this one took hours to 1616 01:35:57.159 --> 01:35:59.199 put together. You know what I always meant, It was 1617 01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:01.840 all because of Jay Midnight and the claims that Ralson 1618 01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:05.319 Kay was making it all right, well, listen to all 1619 01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:07.479 we thought that he was out fault with the Shelley 1620 01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:08.239 Blah blah blah. 1621 01:36:09.239 --> 01:36:13.239 Yeah, well again, I I don't I don't cry, and 1622 01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:16.960 I'll tell you something else. It's funny, is that, you know, 1623 01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:21.479 thinking back, there were a lot of claims as to 1624 01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:24.199 where Oswald was right, A lot of people have had 1625 01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:27.680 different ideas about as to where he was. It's very 1626 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:31.960 difficult to nail it down just is I'm sorry, but 1627 01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:35.439 it is, you know, and uh but but I can't 1628 01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:38.439 put him in this prayer man position. And to me, 1629 01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:41.239 it's just a blurry picture, really is. I mean outside 1630 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:46.039 of this one notation that Fritz made, which is, you know, 1631 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:49.239 doesn't give me any context around that notation or anything. 1632 01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:54.800 I don't see any other recording or you know, somebody 1633 01:36:54.880 --> 01:37:00.239 else stating that, you know, he said this, everything else 1634 01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:02.439 including that statement to you know, at the time of 1635 01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:06.199 the shooting where you were in the building, naturally I was. 1636 01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:08.399 I worked there, you know, like almost like what he's stupid? 1637 01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:12.760 Uh well, the strange thing I'm just saying, I don't know. 1638 01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:15.560 But I didn't want to argue about prayer Man tonight. 1639 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:17.840 I didn't want to argue about nothing. I'd much rather 1640 01:37:18.319 --> 01:37:20.239 pull together on the stuff that we can agree on. 1641 01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:23.920 You know, the idea that Oswald is not the sole 1642 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:28.199 party responsible for the assassination. We should be able to 1643 01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:28.800 agree on that. 1644 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:33.279 You know, I don't buy it when I started, when 1645 01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:35.600 I when I first came on this show, I remember 1646 01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.800 people automatically assumed that I accepted the War Commission's positions 1647 01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:41.239 on things. And I think it opened a couple of 1648 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:43.359 people's eyes when I told him, no, that's not I 1649 01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.319 don't take the warn commition, you know, word for word 1650 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:49.319 as Gospel I said in one of the somebody asked me, 1651 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:51.920 I remember, somebody asked me specifically if I thought Oswald 1652 01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:52.199 did it. 1653 01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:53.640 I thought, I think he. 1654 01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:56.279 Was involved, but I don't think he was a shooter. 1655 01:37:57.159 --> 01:37:59.119 And someone asked me, then, well, where if you think 1656 01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:01.439 he was, he had been? How fun is No? He 1657 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.239 always claimed he was in the building. He was in 1658 01:38:04.319 --> 01:38:09.119 the building for a reason. He just then figured out 1659 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:11.359 what that was right, and as. 1660 01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:14.760 To precisely what Flory was on and everything else, this 1661 01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:16.720 is a problem too. I mean, if you can't put 1662 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:18.600 him on the sixth floor, you can't put him on 1663 01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:21.239 the sixth floor. And that's another funny thing is when 1664 01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:23.359 I went to I don't know if I told this 1665 01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:26.239 part of the story from the weekend on the show, 1666 01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:28.479 and I'll let Jimmy James back on because nobody else 1667 01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:32.279 has joined us. Three one nine five two seven five 1668 01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:35.479 zero one six. I'll tell you a weird thing that happened. 1669 01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:38.800 I walk into arguments all the time, be pete that 1670 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:41.119 I don't want to get into. You don't know how 1671 01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:44.079 often I don't even want to participate in the arguments 1672 01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:46.960 when I get asked a question and people ask me 1673 01:38:47.119 --> 01:38:50.800 questions and then have to argue with me. Two things 1674 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:54.039 happened this weekend where the people tried to drag me 1675 01:38:54.079 --> 01:38:55.840 into arguments I didn't want and I didn't want to 1676 01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:58.199 argue with Jimmy about prayer Man either. Just he asked 1677 01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:01.800 my opinion, I gave it. Like it. But it's weird 1678 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:03.920 a lot of times. And I'm not even saying Jimmy 1679 01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:08.199 did this, But these two people over the weekend did 1680 01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:12.119 this very strange thing to me where they ask you 1681 01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:14.960 a question, they want your opinion, and then because your 1682 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:20.039 opinion doesn't match theirs, they now go at you and 1683 01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:26.880 won't leave you alone until you give in to their opinion. Okay, 1684 01:39:28.439 --> 01:39:32.000 well maybe so, and maybe that's you know. Look, I'm 1685 01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:34.640 just saying I can't stand that crap. You ask my opinion. 1686 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:37.800 You asked my opinion. A separate thing is to ask 1687 01:39:37.880 --> 01:39:41.960 me if I want to debate it? All right, But okay, 1688 01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:44.000 so I'll give you the two things that happened where 1689 01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:46.399 somebody asked my opinion and then had to drag me 1690 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:50.279 into with like almost refused to let me walk away 1691 01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.520 without arguing. Okay. The first one was out in the 1692 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:58.319 smoking section, and I suspect almost that this is the 1693 01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:00.479 guy who got everybody sick last year, by the way, 1694 01:40:01.399 --> 01:40:04.960 but I could I couldn't quite confirm his identity, so 1695 01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:06.720 I wasn't sure. If you were there, I would ask 1696 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:09.720 you if he was the guy, because I think it 1697 01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:12.600 might have been. But anyway, he came over to me, 1698 01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:14.119 and he came over to me a couple of times 1699 01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:17.640 during the conference to, you know, let me know that 1700 01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:19.520 I could get a six dollars cup of coffee at 1701 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:22.279 the restaurant and this and that and whatever, because they 1702 01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:24.720 had closed a really good coffee shop for the weekend, 1703 01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:27.279 so it was open on Friday, but not on Saturday 1704 01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:31.279 or Sunday. Anyway, I appreciated that information. But at some point, 1705 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:34.479 and I'm not sure if it was Sunday morning or 1706 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:39.159 if it was Saturday afternoon, one of those two points. Though, 1707 01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:42.680 He comes to me and says, hey, I need to 1708 01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:46.239 ask you a question. Your opinion about this? Okay? Sure? 1709 01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.960 Why is it that nobody is bringing up that information 1710 01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:55.000 from the Secret Service agent last year? What information? 1711 01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:55.399 Right? 1712 01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.600 And he starts talking to me about guess what the 1713 01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:01.600 Secret Service agents said that he had the bullet in 1714 01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:03.239 hand and put it on the stretcher. You know what 1715 01:41:03.279 --> 01:41:11.319 I'm talking about, right, So I said, well, I'll put 1716 01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:13.399 it to you this way, my friend. Why is it 1717 01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:20.199 not coming up? Because maybe more legitimate information needs to 1718 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:24.199 be discussed. And I got a hard time believing the 1719 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:29.119 guy who was on tour with the Kennedy Detailed Book 1720 01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:30.840 tour at one point, he was part of one of 1721 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.800 the documentaries and all that he never brings this up. 1722 01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:36.640 He never brought it up before. Now all of a sudden, 1723 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:42.720 he put a mystery bullet on a stretcher. And I'm 1724 01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:47.079 telling you that I think the majority of researchers can't 1725 01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:51.159 make that square with other information that they have that 1726 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:55.119 they do believe is reliable. So it's not coming up 1727 01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:58.560 because it's probably not valid according to those of us 1728 01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:05.119 who have looked in this, you know, and he all 1729 01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:08.239 of a sudden started getting upset. A guy wouldn't make 1730 01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.760 that kind of thing up at eighty years old. I said, okay, 1731 01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.159 if that's your opinion, a guy wouldn't make that up 1732 01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:18.920 because he's that old. That's it. No problem. If that's 1733 01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.640 your opinion. That's your opinion. But you asked me why 1734 01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:24.520 I thought it wasn't coming up. Well, maybe it's because 1735 01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:27.840 the people here, and that means all of them don't 1736 01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:32.920 have a need for another piece of invalid information. I 1737 01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:36.079 don't buy it myself. It doesn't make sense a matter 1738 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:38.960 of fact. You know, some of his testimony contradicts the 1739 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:40.760 stuff that he had. Now, why would he put it 1740 01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:42.880 in a book? He says, you like, getting interrupted me, 1741 01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:45.439 I said, why would he put it in a book? Well, 1742 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:47.680 I'll tell you that book sold really well for a 1743 01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:51.119 little while. And sometimes people put things in books just 1744 01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:54.319 to sell books, not necessarily to tell the truth. Right, 1745 01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.239 or do you not believe that somebody would put something 1746 01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:03.039 in a book that's untrue? The guy was relentless at 1747 01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:05.680 somebody at that age. Come on, that's just what's wrong 1748 01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:10.600 with you? Why can't you, Hey, you asked me, and 1749 01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:13.479 I told you what I thought. Meanwhile, you could ask 1750 01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:16.439 everybody else here the same question. Why they're not bringing 1751 01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:20.439 up this guy's story about putting the bullet on the 1752 01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.840 stretcher and all. I bet though, you're going to find 1753 01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:29.000 that they didn't buy it. Pretty simple. Not every story 1754 01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:31.359 that comes out about the Kennedy assassination is true. You 1755 01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:34.720 got to agree to that, otherwise you'd be at the 1756 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:40.199 Judy conference. Okay, So where was that? And this guy 1757 01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:43.720 like really seriously kind of followed me a little bit 1758 01:43:43.800 --> 01:43:46.119 into the hotel out of the smoking section when I'm 1759 01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:48.159 trying to get away from him and get back to 1760 01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:51.760 the conference so I can go do my job. Anyhow, 1761 01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:55.279 I let that one go. But also, you know our 1762 01:43:55.359 --> 01:44:01.000 friend that calls himself creative accidents, Well, he really badly 1763 01:44:01.159 --> 01:44:04.199 wanted me to do a lightning tour through the sixth 1764 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:07.880 floor museum with him right now. I don't know if 1765 01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:10.000 I ever told you this, but I've never actually been 1766 01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:14.000 to the sixth floor museum personally. So I said, well, 1767 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:17.880 I've never been in. I think it's twenty bucks, I 1768 01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:22.239 think twenty or twenty five dollars. Yeah, it's not the 1769 01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:24.479 you know, for a long time they had a really 1770 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:30.119 cheap admission, but no more. It's you know, it's an attraction. 1771 01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.000 And they got a line, a good line during the 1772 01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:35.840 weekend that syncs up with the assassination. You can imagine 1773 01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:37.479 that's probably, you know, one of their best days of 1774 01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:40.920 business of the year. Right. So we're there on the 1775 01:44:42.119 --> 01:44:44.960 on Friday, exactly on Friday when I had gone and 1776 01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:50.119 seen the moment of silence and all that. So he says, well, 1777 01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:53.079 before we go an uber back to the hotel, let's 1778 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:55.199 go up in the sixth floor museum. I said, look, man, 1779 01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:58.000 it's it's an expensive ticket. I can't stay there more 1780 01:44:58.039 --> 01:45:01.319 than like a couple of minutes. He says, I'll pay 1781 01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:03.319 for it, don't worry about it. Let's go. That's all right. 1782 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:06.520 So I go up there and he's taking pictures of me. 1783 01:45:06.600 --> 01:45:08.399 I got a whole bunch of pictures on me. Actually, 1784 01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:11.239 he's taking pictures on me by some of the exhibits, 1785 01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:13.600 and he's asking me a couple of different questions about 1786 01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:15.560 some of the stuff that's up on the wall. You 1787 01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:16.720 ever been in there, VPTE. 1788 01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:21.880 Well, I've never been. I wanted to go last year 1789 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:23.880 while we were there, but we just didn't have time 1790 01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:24.239 to do it. 1791 01:45:24.800 --> 01:45:26.840 And by the way, it looks like they might invite 1792 01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:30.359 me back just to MC again, just so you know. 1793 01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:34.840 And I really want to put together more of a 1794 01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:37.520 group trip with friends and stuff, and I think Mike 1795 01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:40.000 I could probably convince Mike to go one more time. 1796 01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:43.960 And was, Yes, he was. 1797 01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:49.000 He did a presentation with Doug. Yes, Scooter Joe was 1798 01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:54.279 present anyway, and Gail Gail did a presentation. I ended 1799 01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:55.960 up sitting on the stage with her for it, and 1800 01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:58.399 I was really happy to do so. So you know, 1801 01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:01.199 we had Gail Nick Jackson doing her thing, and yeah, 1802 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:05.079 Scooter and Doug Campbell from the Dallas Action and JFK. 1803 01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:08.840 Quick Hits was also there. Rob wasn't there. I don't 1804 01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:10.760 know why. He never seems to be able to get 1805 01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:15.720 to go. But anyway, so we go up into the 1806 01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:18.640 sixth floor museum. We're going through these exhibits. He's taking pictures. 1807 01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:20.279 I told you all that I had to get rid 1808 01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:22.760 of my soda before we went in, so I did. 1809 01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:25.119 I found it ironic in front of that I had 1810 01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:26.840 to throw out a coke before I could go onto 1811 01:46:26.880 --> 01:46:31.000 the sixth floor. But anyway, we go in there and 1812 01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:34.479 we go to these screens and they have this the 1813 01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:37.279 screen near the window where they say, look, if you 1814 01:46:37.359 --> 01:46:40.600 look through this window over here, it's similar to the 1815 01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:43.920 assassin's point of view and all that. And they even 1816 01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:47.319 had another display up on another floor for some reason. 1817 01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:49.359 If you want to go and look at the empty 1818 01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:52.600 floor above the sixth floor, you can, and a few 1819 01:46:52.640 --> 01:46:54.720 other things. But anyway, before we got there, there was 1820 01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:59.159 this screen which has a video presentation to show you, 1821 01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:02.319 you know, the sniper's point of view and all that. 1822 01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:07.880 And I'm looking at it, and you know, the creative 1823 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:11.000 accident said to me, well, what do you think. I 1824 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:14.840 heard you say once that you thought something about another window, 1825 01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:18.600 which one? And I said, well, now that I look 1826 01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:21.840 at it, there's actually a couple of good spots that 1827 01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:25.960 would have been better than this one that they claim 1828 01:47:26.159 --> 01:47:30.079 is the window that the sniper shot from. So a 1829 01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:34.640 guy I wasn't even talking to stepped into the conversation 1830 01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:38.600 and he said, are you telling me that your opinion 1831 01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:41.279 is that they should have shot from over here or 1832 01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:45.640 over there? And I said, yes, that is what my 1833 01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:52.039 opinion is. This guy started on me about how he's 1834 01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:55.159 closest to that window. The president was going to be 1835 01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:57.760 closer to that window than any other, so was the 1836 01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:02.520 best window to shoot from? And that's where Oswald shot from. 1837 01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:04.680 So actually he's a Oswald did it guy? 1838 01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:05.880 You know. 1839 01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:08.319 And he's saying that's where he shot from because that's 1840 01:48:08.359 --> 01:48:12.239 the closest way. And you obviously don't know anything about this, 1841 01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:16.239 you know, Okay, I don't know anything about it. Sure, 1842 01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:19.319 you're right, whatever you say. And I tried to walk 1843 01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:21.279 away from the guy, and he kept on me about 1844 01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:23.520 come on, that's the best window because he's closest. Can't 1845 01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:25.560 you see he's closer there than he is at these 1846 01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:29.359 other windows you're talking about. And I said, well, okay, 1847 01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.359 but what about the idea that you could take a 1848 01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:35.239 shot there and then also with that window open, have 1849 01:48:35.439 --> 01:48:37.479 the ability to shoot out of the other window too. 1850 01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:42.439 You could take multiple shots. With the way I'm talking about, 1851 01:48:42.520 --> 01:48:45.279 he's almost going to be out of your sight right there, 1852 01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:49.199 and God help you if you would have accelerated a 1853 01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:51.760 little too much right there going on to the freeway, 1854 01:48:52.359 --> 01:48:54.359 because that would have made sense. If they had sort 1855 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:56.520 of stepped up the pace and boom, taken off of 1856 01:48:56.600 --> 01:48:59.640 that road like a shot, you might have not gotten 1857 01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:02.000 a shot at all if he was waiting on that 1858 01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:07.319 So yeah, I see where earlier in his trip, before 1859 01:49:07.439 --> 01:49:10.319 the turn, even he could have taken a shot at him, 1860 01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:14.520 And personally, I would have selected that if I was 1861 01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:17.159 the guy shooting, that would have been my idea to 1862 01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:21.359 shoot at him. Plus, you have a frontal shot where 1863 01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:25.680 you can see you know what I mean, And he's 1864 01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:27.840 moving towards you. Should be moving towards you in a 1865 01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:32.239 straight line, so you don't have lateral movement, not a problem. 1866 01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.039 Once he straightens out on that turn, you've got a 1867 01:49:35.159 --> 01:49:38.439 significant whole block to take a shot at him. In 1868 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:44.239 my mind, but again, you ask my opinion, so this 1869 01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:47.319 guy wouldn't leave me. So all I'm saying is that 1870 01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:50.319 sometimes when people ask for your opinion, if you don't 1871 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:54.840 match their opinion, you have to know that there's a 1872 01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:57.359 secondary thing in mind, which is I'm now going to 1873 01:49:57.520 --> 01:50:02.520 argue with you. You to my point of view, because 1874 01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:05.960 I wasn't interested in your opinion. I was just interested 1875 01:50:06.119 --> 01:50:10.000 if in somebody else agreed with me. And I'm not 1876 01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:12.359 saying Jimmy does this. I'm just saying I hate that 1877 01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:17.279 I sometimes people ask for an opinion, I am tempted 1878 01:50:17.479 --> 01:50:21.479 to give them none because they don't want the opinion. 1879 01:50:23.279 --> 01:50:26.159 You might as well just ask them what their situation 1880 01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:28.520 is so you know whether you're going to have an 1881 01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:31.800 argument or not, and then you can choose to say 1882 01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:35.399 nothing in response. You could try that, but I have 1883 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:37.439 a feeling with the two guys that I dealt with 1884 01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:41.760 this weekend. That weekend, I think for some reason, they 1885 01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:44.800 would not have let me go without giving them an 1886 01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:49.279 answer at all. And I think sometimes people lie about 1887 01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:53.199 their opinions when pressured too for this reason, maybe because 1888 01:50:53.279 --> 01:50:55.680 this is what they are dealing with, So I want 1889 01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:58.279 to avoid the argument. Let me just lie and give 1890 01:50:58.359 --> 01:51:02.640 them what they want to hear. And I think that's 1891 01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:04.720 the way a lot of conversations go. And I think 1892 01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:07.720 that's why communication starts to suck, because people don't want 1893 01:51:07.760 --> 01:51:12.199 to be honest because they want to avoid the penalty 1894 01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:17.840 for honesty, which is the argument. Now, I don't know, 1895 01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:19.960 am I crazy? BP? What do you think? 1896 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:22.920 Well? It happens. 1897 01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:26.600 Something that happens a lot, and even on different subjects. 1898 01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:30.119 Something we deal with that constantly in our day to 1899 01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:32.640 day where people will tell you what they think you 1900 01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:37.920 want to hear just to avoid any other conversation yeah, 1901 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:40.920 and I honestly believe the way they're body for taking 1902 01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:43.840 that position. Really, I mean because they know, look, you 1903 01:51:43.920 --> 01:51:47.239 ask my opinion. And that's what gets me so frustrated people, 1904 01:51:47.359 --> 01:51:48.920 you know, if they ask me my opinion, I tell 1905 01:51:48.960 --> 01:51:50.560 them and they don't like it. It's like, well, why 1906 01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:55.239 the world did you ask? You know, what was your purpose? 1907 01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:58.439 Were you looking to be validated? That's going to leave 1908 01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:00.680 a validation is the law, dude. 1909 01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:03.680 But that's the funny thing is they're coming to anybody 1910 01:52:03.800 --> 01:52:08.479 for validation, and obviously you don't know me well enough 1911 01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:10.680 if you don't sort of know some of my opinions, 1912 01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.720 So you want me random person to validate you for 1913 01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:19.359 some reason? Why? You know? There's the big question. So 1914 01:52:19.920 --> 01:52:23.039 the guy who wanted me to validate Paul whatever his 1915 01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:27.159 freaking name was, the Secret Service agent's And I still 1916 01:52:27.199 --> 01:52:31.520 believe that's BS. By the way, just like Bill Wesley Frasier, 1917 01:52:31.600 --> 01:52:33.159 a lot of his stuff that he has said in 1918 01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:35.399 recent years and written in that book, I think he's 1919 01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:36.000 spill of crap. 1920 01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:40.000 Oh yeah, what was it here? Just a couple of years? 1921 01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.000 Was it ten years ago when he made this comment 1922 01:52:42.079 --> 01:52:43.720 and he saw Oswald? When you bat in the back 1923 01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:45.159 of the building and walk down the street. 1924 01:52:45.439 --> 01:52:46.479 Well he's another. 1925 01:52:46.199 --> 01:52:48.479 Those commies ever said that was sixty some odd views. 1926 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:51.479 Yeah, he put Oswald in sixty years. At that point 1927 01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:53.600 he had not said this. And now he's got Oswald 1928 01:52:53.640 --> 01:52:56.239 across the street or whatever, leaving at a weird time 1929 01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:01.960 and okay, whatever. But I think that Buell has adjusted 1930 01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:05.279 his and I think he probably was pressured to adjust 1931 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:09.279 his testimony from the beginning. I mean, they went after him, 1932 01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:12.680 they were threatening to charge him. You know that day, 1933 01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:15.119 like you were working with him, You gave him a ride, 1934 01:53:15.159 --> 01:53:16.880 you were I mean, that's what I'm thinking is you 1935 01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:18.520 were working with him because you gave him a ride, 1936 01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:23.520 mostly but simply because they knew him and he was 1937 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:26.399 staying right you know where he was. His sister's house 1938 01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:29.479 is near the house where his wife stayed. I think 1939 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:32.159 they were on Frasier saying, we'll make you part of this, 1940 01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:34.399 we'll sweep you into it. You better tell us something. 1941 01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:37.000 Oh yeah, he and he hold the car of it. 1942 01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:39.239 What was he had to go to the hospital to 1943 01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:40.199 visit somebody. 1944 01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:42.680 And then it was after that that he went to 1945 01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:47.439 the police station because they were looking for him, and 1946 01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.560 he went down there and that's when they he said 1947 01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:53.079 he almost got a fist fight with Fritz. 1948 01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:55.880 And they were on him, Hey, look you have this. 1949 01:53:56.039 --> 01:53:59.239 He had an Enfield rifle. I think, right, so you 1950 01:53:59.359 --> 01:54:01.520 have a rifle. You could have been part of this. 1951 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:04.680 And I think he was pressured then and I know 1952 01:54:05.039 --> 01:54:07.479 other researchers that pressured him over the years. That's why 1953 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:08.720 he went away for a while. 1954 01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:12.720 You know, it's got to be hard on any of 1955 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:16.279 those people that no, I don't know how that they 1956 01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:18.239 and some of them have quit talking about it. They 1957 01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:21.800 just have refused all requests and you can't really blame them. 1958 01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:24.600 I mean, they've been handed for sixty years over this stuff. 1959 01:54:24.720 --> 01:54:26.560 Well that's the other thing is that there are some 1960 01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:30.079 people that did try to, like you know, be friendly 1961 01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:33.800 and fair about it and open about it. And because 1962 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:37.520 they saw their words twisted or they saw things misrepresented, 1963 01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:41.159 or they saw people you know, trying to twist their 1964 01:54:41.199 --> 01:54:45.920 words and get them, they just stopped, you know. And Plus, 1965 01:54:46.520 --> 01:54:49.479 if it's bad me dealing with crazy theories, imagine if 1966 01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:51.680 I was a witness, I definitely would not want to 1967 01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:53.520 hear from these people that want to argue with me 1968 01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:57.119 and tell me about what I saw, and you know 1969 01:54:57.279 --> 01:54:59.439 that that happens to those people all the time. Yeah. 1970 01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:02.439 Good, just sort of curiosity. What do you think one 1971 01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:06.000 of these billboard trucks would cost to rent for an hour? 1972 01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:06.760 Two or two? 1973 01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:10.479 I don't know, but I was so mad I couldn't 1974 01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:11.359 get near Judy by. 1975 01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:15.000 I'm thinking, well, you know now that Judy has worked away, 1976 01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:17.439 you know, they've been doing this memorial thing for quite 1977 01:55:17.520 --> 01:55:19.960 some time, this moment of silence, She's been doing that 1978 01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:23.119 for years down there. Well, I don't know they were 1979 01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:25.960 doing it first time where it actually hit on the 1980 01:55:26.079 --> 01:55:29.800 twenty second, but maybe they're wondering if they're going to 1981 01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:33.319 do it again next year. If I go, what it 1982 01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:35.960 would cost me to get one of those billboard trucks 1983 01:55:36.039 --> 01:55:39.600 to just drive circles through dvie plast with that wanted 1984 01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:42.119 poster I put together plastered on the side of it. 1985 01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:45.560 I don't know it conveniently just keep riding by the noles. 1986 01:55:46.439 --> 01:55:49.920 It would be hysterical. I'd love to see how we 1987 01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:52.119 could get that done. And I was so mad that 1988 01:55:52.199 --> 01:55:55.760 I couldn't get close enough to her to hander the book. 1989 01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:59.680 I wanted to just handle Walt's book, you know, I 1990 01:55:59.720 --> 01:56:02.159 mean have this deal with what where we're supposed to 1991 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:04.760 split the uh, you know, profits from it. But I didn't, 1992 01:56:05.680 --> 01:56:06.319 I didn't sell it. 1993 01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:09.520 This got out, Hey, Judy Walt said this here. 1994 01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:10.359 Get that to her. 1995 01:56:11.720 --> 01:56:15.760 Yep, no, no problem. But but she was on the 1996 01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:18.359 stage there, and she's part of this group that calls 1997 01:56:18.439 --> 01:56:22.640 itself like the Dallas Historical Society or something and or 1998 01:56:22.720 --> 01:56:26.800 the Dallas Historical Group something like that. And it's the 1999 01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:30.560 cover you know, for her conferences or her conferences company 2000 01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:35.479 and all that. So that's how she keeps that running. Anyway, 2001 01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:40.720 I guess we'll bring Jimmy James back on. Yeah, good, Yeah, 2002 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:41.399 you can bring it back on. 2003 01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:44.359 I got one course to the wonders the pandemic is over, 2004 01:56:44.439 --> 01:56:47.479 Why Judy hasn't gone back to where if they had 2005 01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:49.800 it was she was living over there or was it 2006 01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:50.760 still no? 2007 01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:52.640 Where was it where Sweden? Was it? 2008 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:55.079 Well? She tried living in Sweden and no. 2009 01:56:57.479 --> 01:57:00.760 Evasically bought a house there, okay, and that was the 2010 01:57:01.159 --> 01:57:04.880 part time residence. That's how she was able to stay 2011 01:57:04.920 --> 01:57:07.239 there because she had a residence to stay in. But 2012 01:57:08.039 --> 01:57:10.439 I'm just curious now that I mean, she's still living 2013 01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:13.640 in Dallas from what I understand. So with the pandemic, 2014 01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:17.039 that's why she couldn't go back. The pandemic tractor here right, 2015 01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:19.600 and Vitus wondering, Wait a minute, did all the people 2016 01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:21.760 that tried to kill you over the years suddenly die 2017 01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:24.000 in the past. Did they get gone in the pandemic 2018 01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:26.119 you'd gone back to your home? 2019 01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:29.600 They must have, because you know she was living in exile, remember, 2020 01:57:29.720 --> 01:57:32.239 and Glenn Vickling busted her about her whole you know, 2021 01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:36.720 trying to seek asylum or whatever claim that she was making. 2022 01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:39.600 And you helped the buster too. I brought that up 2023 01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:43.159 to somebody by the way at the conference, you know, 2024 01:57:43.279 --> 01:57:45.159 they said, well, you know, what do you think is 2025 01:57:45.199 --> 01:57:47.800 the most ridiculous thing? You know, that would be the 2026 01:57:47.880 --> 01:57:49.680 thing to point to Judy. I said, well, you know, 2027 01:57:49.720 --> 01:57:53.000 while she was supposedly living in exile, a friend of 2028 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:56.800 mine actually, you know, got the documents showing that she 2029 01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.920 had registered to vote in North Carolina. So you know, 2030 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.279 I don't know if you can go into exile from 2031 01:58:02.319 --> 01:58:06.000 America in North Carolina. But news to me, you know 2032 01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:06.520 what I'm saying. 2033 01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:10.119 Yeah, that's how I found out she moved to Dallas. 2034 01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:12.640 I checked the voter records down there, that's why I 2035 01:58:12.680 --> 01:58:16.199 got her addressed there, you living at Ritchie Condo there 2036 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:18.439 for a while. I think she's moved to somewhere else. 2037 01:58:18.479 --> 01:58:20.239 I don't know if money got tired or what. But 2038 01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:26.119 when she couldn't go back to Sweden, she uh, you know, 2039 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:28.359 she had to said take refuge in Dallas there and 2040 01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:29.840 apparently she's still living down there. 2041 01:58:30.079 --> 01:58:32.399 Well, who knows what she really does for her income. 2042 01:58:32.520 --> 01:58:35.239 But I mean, you know, it can't be the book anymore. 2043 01:58:36.199 --> 01:58:40.520 So uh and I don't think her uh you know, up. 2044 01:58:40.520 --> 01:58:45.319 Off her husband social Security. So she passed away. 2045 01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:52.039 Yeah, I don't know does she have you know, does 2046 01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:54.039 she have the Bakers of security? 2047 01:58:54.159 --> 01:58:57.239 The well, you know, I know that I don't know 2048 01:58:57.479 --> 01:58:59.960 long enough. In fact, I got my notice here apparently 2049 01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:05.680 because I haven't remarried, I could actually file a claim 2050 01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:08.199 on my ex wife social Security if I were to 2051 01:59:08.239 --> 01:59:10.359 get disabled or something nice. 2052 01:59:11.600 --> 01:59:16.439 Nice. That's interesting, you know, But remember Oswald told her 2053 01:59:16.520 --> 01:59:18.680 never to forget the name Bobby Baker. And I always 2054 01:59:18.720 --> 01:59:21.920 found that hilarious, considering that, you know, Bobby Baker, yes, 2055 01:59:22.159 --> 01:59:24.279 was indeed the name of somebody who worked for LBJ, 2056 01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:27.000 but also happened to be the name of guess who 2057 01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:34.359 her husband, Robert Baker, just saying, yes, bring. 2058 01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:36.680 Jimmy back, and we're all, yeah, let's bring Jimmy. 2059 01:59:36.439 --> 01:59:38.720 Back on see what else Jimmy's got. Maybe he wants 2060 01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:41.079 to go into something else, you know, But I say, 2061 01:59:41.159 --> 01:59:43.039 email this stuff to us, let us take a look 2062 01:59:43.079 --> 01:59:45.159 at it, and you know, we got some other evidence 2063 01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:48.279 or documents. Please let's do that and not argue about 2064 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:50.239 anything else. Maybe we can talk about something else to 2065 01:59:50.279 --> 01:59:54.199 close out the show tonight, you know, get through it. 2066 01:59:54.399 --> 01:59:58.079 But hopefully you guys enjoyed the little anecdotes and stories 2067 01:59:58.119 --> 02:00:02.560 from Dealey and and also the downtown Marriott, which, by 2068 02:00:02.640 --> 02:00:04.720 the way, superior hotel. I think we're going to go 2069 02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:07.880 back there, not gonna go be going back to that 2070 02:00:08.039 --> 02:00:09.880 freaking oh god, other place. 2071 02:00:12.039 --> 02:00:13.319 Lose the name of that joint. 2072 02:00:15.760 --> 02:00:20.119 Lorenzo. Yeah, I know, it's terrible. I really really hope 2073 02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:23.239 they never ever end up with a contract there, because 2074 02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:27.119 the contract for this place definitely well worth it. I 2075 02:00:27.319 --> 02:00:30.399 was happy with it, and so was the family too. 2076 02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:33.680 So just saying because I had Frankie and missus Oh 2077 02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:36.439 with me at the conference and I was happy to 2078 02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:38.960 do that, it might have been easier on me if 2079 02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:41.319 I didn't have them with me. But you know, look, 2080 02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:43.840 and it was rough for her to do the drive 2081 02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:47.439 in a day, for sure, but you know we got 2082 02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:51.800 through it. We survived. I know you've done it. You 2083 02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:55.000 did it faster, by the way, than we did. I'm 2084 02:00:55.079 --> 02:00:59.239 not sure how exactly, because she's got a fairly heavy wind. 2085 02:00:59.640 --> 02:00:59.840 Yeah. 2086 02:01:00.039 --> 02:01:01.960 I mean she's got a fairly heavy foot too. So 2087 02:01:02.039 --> 02:01:04.399 I thought we'd get there just as fast. But nope, 2088 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:07.680 not really. I think we were fourteen or fourteen and 2089 02:01:07.720 --> 02:01:09.960 a half hours getting there. 2090 02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:13.039 We did it just over twelve, I think. 2091 02:01:13.199 --> 02:01:16.319 Yeah, I think so, And I don't know, just seemed quick. 2092 02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:22.119 Any you, let's bring Jimmy back and Jimmy, Yeah, if 2093 02:01:22.159 --> 02:01:24.560 you got something else you want to bring up or whatever. Man, 2094 02:01:24.760 --> 02:01:26.279 you know, the floor is yours. 2095 02:01:28.760 --> 02:01:36.520 As Mark, Okay, advice of mine. You guys, we're just. 2096 02:01:38.439 --> 02:01:41.960 Well, uh, we're just on tram man. 2097 02:01:42.159 --> 02:01:44.920 I'll just stick up for the doll, that's all. 2098 02:01:45.399 --> 02:01:50.960 Okay, fair enough. So let's see. Sounds like reading in 2099 02:01:51.039 --> 02:01:54.720 the chat room I found this money. Uh, sounds like 2100 02:01:54.800 --> 02:01:57.239 there are a lot of nod dolls in Dallas, according 2101 02:01:57.279 --> 02:02:01.479 to and in this chat room. Not selling me. I'm 2102 02:02:01.520 --> 02:02:04.880 going there next year, Chuck, Well, you know it will 2103 02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:08.279 be a more interesting conference next year, because here's the reality. 2104 02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:13.479 I'm going to be more involved with the conference next 2105 02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:17.680 year if I do this. So I promise you that 2106 02:02:17.840 --> 02:02:22.399 you're looking at a better conference next year, because I'm 2107 02:02:22.399 --> 02:02:23.520 going to say. 2108 02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:27.439 I have to say though, you meet some interesting people, 2109 02:02:27.680 --> 02:02:30.119 just like Creative only time in the room that you 2110 02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:33.199 know he is. I met him. You a really interesting guy, 2111 02:02:33.319 --> 02:02:36.840 Mike Swanson, a great guy. Loved that you could sit 2112 02:02:36.920 --> 02:02:40.680 and talk to him for hours about anything. So I 2113 02:02:40.920 --> 02:02:42.760 was a little you know, I didn't get to see 2114 02:02:42.800 --> 02:02:44.720 a lot of presentations because a lot of times when 2115 02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:46.399 you were running back and forth, I was there, man 2116 02:02:46.479 --> 02:02:51.479 in the book desk. But I met some very very 2117 02:02:51.640 --> 02:02:54.199 interesting people, people that you won't forget the rest of 2118 02:02:54.279 --> 02:02:56.279 your life. And I would have loved to have been 2119 02:02:56.319 --> 02:02:58.000 able to call this time just to sit down and 2120 02:02:58.039 --> 02:03:01.039 talk with Mike, because I mean, I all, I just 2121 02:03:01.119 --> 02:03:05.359 find his I just find him fascinating him creative. Now 2122 02:03:05.920 --> 02:03:07.920 you can sit there Creative as the guy you want 2123 02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:09.800 to have when you're sitting around drinking beers. 2124 02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:12.399 Absolutely, you know that's just from. 2125 02:03:12.319 --> 02:03:14.560 The stories that they tell you. And I'll tell you 2126 02:03:15.319 --> 02:03:18.479 and Doug. I mean meeting Doug for the first time 2127 02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:21.880 and talking to him about connections between K pop. 2128 02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:24.880 And the New Thing clan, and I was just it's 2129 02:03:24.880 --> 02:03:26.000 an amazing. 2130 02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:28.039 Group of people. And I did finally get to meet 2131 02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:32.319 gil Nis, so it was all worth it. I would say, 2132 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:35.760 for friends, you gotta go, it's it's a you gotta 2133 02:03:35.800 --> 02:03:36.880 go at least to one. 2134 02:03:38.119 --> 02:03:40.359 Right, and I'm telling you it's going to be a 2135 02:03:40.600 --> 02:03:44.319 much more interesting conference. I met this guy, Scott Edwards, 2136 02:03:45.159 --> 02:03:46.680 who is going to be a guest on the show, 2137 02:03:47.880 --> 02:03:52.520 and he has done podcasts about Ready for This one 2138 02:03:53.279 --> 02:03:58.560 about Stanley Kubrick, but also he's written a book about 2139 02:03:58.680 --> 02:04:02.880 Jack Nicholson, and I just I find this guy interesting 2140 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:04.640 and I think he's got a great voice, and I 2141 02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:07.640 think he's going to be a cool conversation. And there's 2142 02:04:07.680 --> 02:04:11.840 an author I totally didn't expect to run into, but 2143 02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:15.079 it was. It was a light attendance this year. Next 2144 02:04:15.159 --> 02:04:18.880 year it's almost a guarantee because we discovered that for 2145 02:04:19.039 --> 02:04:22.159 some reason during election years, okay, because they have twenty 2146 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:25.600 eight years to look back at as far as attendance goes. 2147 02:04:26.520 --> 02:04:30.439 Every four years when the presidential election happens, guess what 2148 02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:37.960 attendance drops, So you know, I think that just automatically, 2149 02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:41.119 we're gonna have more attendance next year, and it's gonna 2150 02:04:41.119 --> 02:04:46.039 be a more diversified group, you know. I was saying 2151 02:04:46.199 --> 02:04:48.479 also that Larry wasn't there this year, but good. 2152 02:04:50.439 --> 02:04:54.319 Depression. Of course it's still. 2153 02:04:54.359 --> 02:04:55.279 Rough years. 2154 02:04:56.640 --> 02:05:04.039 As well. About the the characters, I don't believe it, 2155 02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:07.760 So what were they really Queer's foot Pallas though, because 2156 02:05:07.840 --> 02:05:12.159 that's who was zaggrevat the Thanksgiving. 2157 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:15.600 Parade there is well. 2158 02:05:17.760 --> 02:05:20.439 That is who they claimed to be. I don't know 2159 02:05:20.520 --> 02:05:22.880 if who's covered it at all, but that is more 2160 02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:26.800 thing to be you and on yeah. 2161 02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:30.960 The because I saw just I don't know if this 2162 02:05:31.159 --> 02:05:33.960 is you know, one of those coincidences, but it was 2163 02:05:34.279 --> 02:05:36.640 about two weeks ago when I had the flu and 2164 02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:39.880 I was homesick. I happened to go on to Be 2165 02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:44.760 and saw the movie q which talks about how QAnon 2166 02:05:44.880 --> 02:05:48.199 got started, the guys that set it up, when they 2167 02:05:48.279 --> 02:05:51.520 made the jump from four chan to eight chan today. 2168 02:05:51.560 --> 02:05:55.640 And it was an amazing documentary to sit there and watch. 2169 02:05:55.720 --> 02:05:59.199 And I can't remember if it was on Netflix or 2170 02:05:59.319 --> 02:06:02.600 who did the actually production of it, but there was 2171 02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:05.239 a series of you know, it was like in five 2172 02:06:05.359 --> 02:06:07.399 segments or six segments whatever. 2173 02:06:07.239 --> 02:06:08.920 That's the one where they got around there and it 2174 02:06:09.039 --> 02:06:10.279 was amazing. 2175 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:12.399 They're chasing around the little guy who's in a wheelchair 2176 02:06:12.760 --> 02:06:16.279 and right, yeah, okay, that was a reasonally on Netflix. 2177 02:06:16.359 --> 02:06:18.399 I watched that like two years ago. 2178 02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:21.600 I think when it was brand I was amazed. I 2179 02:06:21.640 --> 02:06:23.680 mean because I had no knowledge. I was I never 2180 02:06:23.800 --> 02:06:26.119 really caught the q Andon thing. It was something blew 2181 02:06:26.199 --> 02:06:27.920 by me. I happen to see a couple of people 2182 02:06:28.000 --> 02:06:31.199 on Facebook that would make references to them in all 2183 02:06:31.279 --> 02:06:37.680 and some of that Outlantas Rapp a excellent ser Well, 2184 02:06:37.800 --> 02:06:38.039 let me. 2185 02:06:38.079 --> 02:06:42.720 Put it to you this way. It's the same type 2186 02:06:42.760 --> 02:06:45.479 of people, and the signs they were holding up and 2187 02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:51.560 stuff all represented QA non type things. Okay, but they 2188 02:06:51.640 --> 02:06:54.800 weren't waiting for our for JFK Junior to show up 2189 02:06:54.840 --> 02:06:57.239 this time. They had been on the NOLA a couple 2190 02:06:57.279 --> 02:07:00.319 of years ago screaming that JFK Junior was going to 2191 02:07:00.359 --> 02:07:05.279 show up on the anniversary and become Trump's vice presidential 2192 02:07:05.359 --> 02:07:09.439 candidate right a few years back. But they didn't do 2193 02:07:09.600 --> 02:07:12.199 that this time. They were just out there just with 2194 02:07:12.319 --> 02:07:16.359 their signs and out of nowhere. It seems like they 2195 02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:19.800 formed a human chain right at the time that the 2196 02:07:20.159 --> 02:07:23.039 moment of silence was being held from a stage which 2197 02:07:23.119 --> 02:07:25.640 was up on the hill. You know, they have a 2198 02:07:25.720 --> 02:07:27.600 stage up on the hill, and a whole lot of 2199 02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:31.600 people are standing down hill, down the hole, watching what's 2200 02:07:31.640 --> 02:07:33.920 going on. And the next thing I know is a 2201 02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:38.159 human chain gets formed across Elm Street and it's all 2202 02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:41.720 these guys who have these signs, these q A non signs, 2203 02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:45.640 and they formed a human chain and stopped traffic. So 2204 02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:48.479 traffic's beeping at him. People are getting pissed, and it 2205 02:07:48.560 --> 02:07:52.479 broke up pretty quick, so they. 2206 02:07:52.680 --> 02:07:53.960 Pated traffic though. 2207 02:07:54.439 --> 02:07:56.520 In Dallas, Texas, Yes. 2208 02:07:57.279 --> 02:07:57.359 On. 2209 02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:04.119 Another I want to go another hour. It'll talk about 2210 02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:09.000 this q ALLO situation. Did I find it unacceptable? Willing 2211 02:08:09.159 --> 02:08:14.159 to find these people? Well, Dallas, I have I have 2212 02:08:14.560 --> 02:08:24.600 normally ill on the phone, these Dallas ql vegetators. I'll 2213 02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:25.439 have all these. 2214 02:08:25.800 --> 02:08:29.720 I'm not the guy who can hell you, but look, Jimmy, 2215 02:08:29.840 --> 02:08:32.359 I I can't help you because I didn't have anybody 2216 02:08:32.399 --> 02:08:35.039 to assist me with tracking it down. I mean, I 2217 02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:37.880 had creative accidents with me, but he wanted to drag 2218 02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:40.920 me into the sixth floor. So it didn't last long 2219 02:08:41.039 --> 02:08:43.239 because they kind of got you know, the cars started 2220 02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:44.159 being pushing out. 2221 02:08:46.119 --> 02:08:50.159 Smart callers, there's just get some more of the. 2222 02:08:50.479 --> 02:08:51.840 Handle the right way. 2223 02:08:53.119 --> 02:08:54.800 Well, look, I'll give. 2224 02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:59.880 Them credit for being given full of bullshit and you 2225 02:09:00.399 --> 02:09:04.720 because that's a busy damn road to try to get 2226 02:09:04.800 --> 02:09:06.079 out and con and stop traffic. 2227 02:09:06.239 --> 02:09:08.439 Well, that short time that chuck and out was there 2228 02:09:08.560 --> 02:09:11.800 last year, it was an amazing amount of traffic running 2229 02:09:11.840 --> 02:09:12.439 down that road. 2230 02:09:12.560 --> 02:09:14.800 Yeah, but in the like, you know how there's that 2231 02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:19.239 traffic light right there. When that light up stopped traffic 2232 02:09:19.439 --> 02:09:22.600 right around the time of the moment of silence, right 2233 02:09:23.119 --> 02:09:26.880 people stopped crossing the street right then because everybody was 2234 02:09:26.920 --> 02:09:29.359 paying attention and a lot of people bowed their heads. 2235 02:09:29.439 --> 02:09:31.319 I thought it was you know, and and some people 2236 02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:34.279 were praying or whatever, and it was all like that, 2237 02:09:34.520 --> 02:09:39.479 and the place was quiet until these guys started yelling 2238 02:09:40.439 --> 02:09:43.079 and stretched across the street a human shame. 2239 02:09:43.359 --> 02:09:47.880 Are you telling that they were obstructed an official ceremony? 2240 02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:49.439 Well, oh my. 2241 02:09:49.960 --> 02:09:52.000 God, that's not an official ceremony. 2242 02:09:53.079 --> 02:09:54.359 That's not an official. 2243 02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:59.159 Ceremoniiday, it it's not today, It's not it's it is 2244 02:09:59.319 --> 02:10:00.800 not an official ceremony. 2245 02:10:02.039 --> 02:10:04.119 It is not an official ceremony. 2246 02:10:04.199 --> 02:10:05.520 It is the thing that Pen. 2247 02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:08.079 Jones, Jimmy listened to me. It is a thing that 2248 02:10:08.239 --> 02:10:11.880 Penn Jones used to do, and then John Judge took 2249 02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:16.359 it all okay, and it's never been official. As matter 2250 02:10:16.439 --> 02:10:19.760 of fact. For the fiftieth anniversary, I think they ran 2251 02:10:19.920 --> 02:10:23.000 these guys off because they didn't want them there to 2252 02:10:23.119 --> 02:10:25.520 even do the moment of silence. Right, there was a 2253 02:10:25.560 --> 02:10:28.960 whole big thing. They had to go to college. Well, 2254 02:10:29.039 --> 02:10:31.840 they had to get a permanent and then they were 2255 02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:34.720 an issue in the permit and so on and blah 2256 02:10:34.720 --> 02:10:39.039 blah blah. And at other years, you know, Deborah Conway 2257 02:10:39.399 --> 02:10:42.640 set up on the mill there with a table and chairs. 2258 02:10:43.520 --> 02:10:47.279 Okay, we had left end quote. They were issued a permit. 2259 02:10:48.039 --> 02:10:53.720 This was an official ceremony, sanctioned by the municipality of Dallas, 2260 02:10:54.239 --> 02:10:58.560 and it was interfered with by these hooligans. As we 2261 02:10:58.720 --> 02:10:59.840 got to get to the bottom. 2262 02:11:00.600 --> 02:11:04.159 As far as I know, they stretched across the street, 2263 02:11:04.319 --> 02:11:07.680 which I guess technically had nothing to do with this 2264 02:11:08.199 --> 02:11:11.319 ceremony except that it was in proximity to it. See, 2265 02:11:12.159 --> 02:11:14.960 so I would say that they didn't even directly interfere. 2266 02:11:15.079 --> 02:11:17.079 To me, they were interfering because it was like moment 2267 02:11:17.159 --> 02:11:19.199 of silence. You're making this noise and now we got 2268 02:11:19.239 --> 02:11:21.680 car horns beeping at them and all this other stuff 2269 02:11:23.079 --> 02:11:27.840 because they stopped traffic momentarily. And then I don't know, 2270 02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:28.720 it just seems like. 2271 02:11:31.479 --> 02:11:36.079 Anyone out there who is involved in shoe and then 2272 02:11:36.319 --> 02:11:38.800 please call up the show right now and I'll pay 2273 02:11:38.960 --> 02:11:41.159 to extend the show. I want to talk. 2274 02:11:41.640 --> 02:11:44.680 Well, I'm about ready to drop off here, okay, because 2275 02:11:44.720 --> 02:11:46.640 we're about done for tonight. But I'll tell you what, 2276 02:11:47.479 --> 02:11:51.279 if they want to they can sing. Well, they can 2277 02:11:51.359 --> 02:11:55.239 sing an email to info at O'Kelly dot com, okay, 2278 02:11:56.279 --> 02:11:58.520 and I'll be more than happy to put them on 2279 02:11:58.640 --> 02:12:01.159 the air. I'll be more than happy to interview you 2280 02:12:01.319 --> 02:12:03.560 if you're a QA non guy, especially if you were 2281 02:12:03.600 --> 02:12:07.479 involved in the protest in Dallas on the twenty second 2282 02:12:07.560 --> 02:12:12.479 mind you of November, because the stopping of traffic was 2283 02:12:12.760 --> 02:12:15.920 very strange and I still don't know have an idea 2284 02:12:15.960 --> 02:12:18.640 what the point was. There wasn't that many of these guys. 2285 02:12:18.720 --> 02:12:23.119 There was only maybe fifteen or twenty of them all together. 2286 02:12:23.199 --> 02:12:27.439 It wasn't a big protest, so I don't know all learn. 2287 02:12:27.960 --> 02:12:32.159 Yeah, well beyond what's Tuck the said, fine, but Jimmy 2288 02:12:32.319 --> 02:12:37.239 James is offering a cash reward for even the name 2289 02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:44.319 of one of these peoples who presented themselves as qan 2290 02:12:44.520 --> 02:12:45.920 and at this event. 2291 02:12:46.439 --> 02:12:48.880 And that's right, and I would be more than happy 2292 02:12:48.920 --> 02:12:51.640 to facilitate that. If you want to pay somebody cash 2293 02:12:52.039 --> 02:12:54.159 to get to talk to one of them, I would 2294 02:12:54.199 --> 02:12:56.439 be more than happy to do it. And on next 2295 02:12:56.479 --> 02:12:59.840 week's show, happily see, we'll let the podcast go out 2296 02:13:00.079 --> 02:13:03.159 more people hear about it. So if you were one 2297 02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:07.840 of these QA non protesters who was at the Daley Plaza, 2298 02:13:08.079 --> 02:13:11.279 who was there just adjacent to the nool on Elm 2299 02:13:11.319 --> 02:13:14.319 Street on the twenty second of November this year, and 2300 02:13:14.479 --> 02:13:19.239 you were involved in stopping traffic, Jimmy James, We'll pay 2301 02:13:19.279 --> 02:13:21.840 you some cash to come on the show and talk 2302 02:13:21.920 --> 02:13:23.479 to him about this, right. 2303 02:13:27.319 --> 02:13:27.760 You got that? 2304 02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:30.359 Right there you go. I'm willing to be make your 2305 02:13:30.399 --> 02:13:33.600 own sure, and I know he's good for it. You 2306 02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:34.119 want to. 2307 02:13:35.840 --> 02:13:39.319 After all, we want to hear their grievance, right, w 2308 02:13:39.680 --> 02:13:40.640 Chuck listen. 2309 02:13:40.680 --> 02:13:44.279 Fair enough, I could not make out what their grievance 2310 02:13:44.359 --> 02:13:48.239 really was. That's the thing I don't know, because it 2311 02:13:48.319 --> 02:13:50.600 didn't make sense to me that they were blocking traffic 2312 02:13:50.800 --> 02:13:54.800 and they had their signs. And then after that broke up, 2313 02:13:55.279 --> 02:13:58.560 and you know, there was some complaints, I say, somebody 2314 02:13:58.680 --> 02:14:02.600 yelled about calling the cop or whatever, and that was 2315 02:14:02.640 --> 02:14:05.560 about it. They kind of flushed into the crowd again 2316 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:09.359 and they were you know, I didn't see where they 2317 02:14:09.399 --> 02:14:11.640 went even after that. There was only fifteen to twenty 2318 02:14:11.720 --> 02:14:14.760 of them altogether. And that's how they were able to 2319 02:14:14.840 --> 02:14:16.760 make a human chain that was wide enough to go 2320 02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:22.520 across Elm Street. So you know, Elm Street's not that wide. 2321 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:26.880 I mean, BP, you know how wide Elm Street is. Yep, 2322 02:14:27.319 --> 02:14:30.039 So a human chain I think they can accommodate it 2323 02:14:30.119 --> 02:14:32.960 with fifteen or twenty people. And that's about they had, 2324 02:14:33.159 --> 02:14:35.680 like just enough to make the human chain across the street. 2325 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:39.560 Those are three lanes I think, yeah, yeah. 2326 02:14:39.560 --> 02:14:41.600 But they're not like you know, it was about thirty 2327 02:14:41.680 --> 02:14:44.880 six thirty six feet the lanes and another six for 2328 02:14:45.079 --> 02:14:46.159 curb and gutter. 2329 02:14:46.119 --> 02:14:48.760 You likit of the forty seet thirty two feet. 2330 02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:52.760 Yeah, so human chain. So human chain side by side, 2331 02:14:52.960 --> 02:14:55.600 some of them holding hands, some of them hooked to arms. Right, 2332 02:14:55.840 --> 02:14:58.560 you could definitely accommodate that with fifteen to twenty people. 2333 02:14:59.479 --> 02:15:03.399 It's exactly what they had was enough to go across 2334 02:15:03.520 --> 02:15:06.640 the whole street. And then it looked to me like 2335 02:15:07.119 --> 02:15:09.119 one of the cars like kind of, you know, slowly 2336 02:15:09.239 --> 02:15:14.800 pushed into him, maybe like you're gonna move, You're gonna move. 2337 02:15:14.920 --> 02:15:20.319 And then it broke and that was that. And I 2338 02:15:20.399 --> 02:15:23.159 still don't know what their deal was. You know, they 2339 02:15:23.279 --> 02:15:26.960 started to say something, but it got broken up. I mean, 2340 02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:29.279 some people started yelling at him, like I said, you know, 2341 02:15:29.439 --> 02:15:31.800 like I'll dare you or whatever, and blah blah blah, 2342 02:15:31.840 --> 02:15:36.000 and we're gonna call the cops or something, and it 2343 02:15:36.199 --> 02:15:40.119 just sort of broke up. And I asked other people, 2344 02:15:40.199 --> 02:15:44.000 what does anybody know what that's about? Exactly? You know, 2345 02:15:44.159 --> 02:15:46.079 I mean, I see the QA non stuff, but what 2346 02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:48.439 is this about? They're like, I don't know QA non. 2347 02:15:49.960 --> 02:15:51.880 So other people that were there longer than me and 2348 02:15:51.960 --> 02:15:54.359 everything still didn't know what their deal was. They were 2349 02:15:54.479 --> 02:15:59.199 just there. So there you go. Jimmy James will pay 2350 02:15:59.279 --> 02:16:01.439 cash to somebody if they'll come on here next week, 2351 02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:03.960 call in and talk to him about it. Tell us 2352 02:16:04.000 --> 02:16:07.239 what your grievance was. This is what Jimmy said, so 2353 02:16:07.399 --> 02:16:11.119 there you go. More than happy to facilitate anyway, Jimmy, 2354 02:16:11.319 --> 02:16:13.760 we're gonna close out. You got any final thoughts? 2355 02:16:17.840 --> 02:16:17.960 Uh? 2356 02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:25.239 Oh yes, gobble gobble, gobble gobble, Hell yeah, why not. 2357 02:16:25.560 --> 02:16:28.479 I hope everybody enjoyed their Thanksgiving. I know you had 2358 02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:31.760 a good Thanksgiving, Jimmy, because after all, the Lions won. 2359 02:16:32.079 --> 02:16:33.840 I pointed that out at the beginning of the show, 2360 02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:39.559 didn't I so, and they just held on right, I 2361 02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:42.440 mean per minute there. I thought they were going to 2362 02:16:42.520 --> 02:16:45.959 lose a big lead. Seemed like they had a big 2363 02:16:46.079 --> 02:16:48.120 lead at the half and I thought they were losing 2364 02:16:48.200 --> 02:16:50.639 it and then boom they did finish it out. So 2365 02:16:51.559 --> 02:16:54.000 I know the Lions won on Thanksgiving, so you gotta 2366 02:16:54.040 --> 02:16:55.920 be happy about that, right. 2367 02:16:59.399 --> 02:17:03.399 Well ten in eight years, you know, there you go, 2368 02:17:03.879 --> 02:17:05.200 and maybe. 2369 02:17:05.040 --> 02:17:08.000 The Lions have a chance this year. So goble gobble 2370 02:17:08.120 --> 02:17:11.000 is Jimmy Jamings final thoughts. So we'll leave it at that, 2371 02:17:11.200 --> 02:17:14.239 and I think that's great. The day after Thanksgiving, Black Friday, 2372 02:17:14.280 --> 02:17:17.360 it is at least for another hour and a half 2373 02:17:17.479 --> 02:17:21.280 or so. So b Pete, what's your final thoughts for 2374 02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:23.479 this week? Now that we've gone over a bit, and 2375 02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:27.159 you know who knows maybe we'll do it again next week. 2376 02:17:27.719 --> 02:17:29.319 I don't know if Aaron is going to be live 2377 02:17:29.440 --> 02:17:31.200 or not. I think so, but we'll see. 2378 02:17:33.920 --> 02:17:37.120 Well, it's been an interesting week. I didn't notice something, 2379 02:17:37.440 --> 02:17:39.440 and I find this kind of strange. A lot of 2380 02:17:39.520 --> 02:17:41.559 the stuff that I've looked at, I'm going to foreign 2381 02:17:41.639 --> 02:17:46.639 websites and things like that, but I've noticed we have Thanksgiving. 2382 02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:49.920 A lot of other countries realize that we have Thanksgiving 2383 02:17:49.959 --> 02:17:56.360 about now, okay, but Black Friday has become a worldwide institution, 2384 02:17:57.799 --> 02:18:02.079 and it's strange that you get the black which you know. 2385 02:18:02.319 --> 02:18:03.360 They come from. 2386 02:18:04.120 --> 02:18:07.479 Today is the biggest retail day for a lot of businesses. 2387 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:10.680 They lose money all year, but this is the day 2388 02:18:10.760 --> 02:18:13.399 that puts them into black from being in the red. 2389 02:18:13.799 --> 02:18:15.559 And that's where the name came from. It's not a 2390 02:18:15.719 --> 02:18:16.360 racist thing. 2391 02:18:16.520 --> 02:18:17.799 You don't want to hear a bunch of mail and 2392 02:18:17.920 --> 02:18:21.719 get a bunch of complaints that I have noticed a 2393 02:18:21.920 --> 02:18:25.079 lot of these people on Instagram that are foreigners that 2394 02:18:25.239 --> 02:18:28.360 are in Korea and Japan and places like that. If 2395 02:18:28.399 --> 02:18:32.680 they have merchandise, they're all having Black Friday sales. I 2396 02:18:32.840 --> 02:18:36.120 just find it amazing that an institution something that's started 2397 02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:40.200 here in the state connected with Thanksgiving and the day 2398 02:18:40.280 --> 02:18:43.920 after the first sale day starting the Christmas you know, 2399 02:18:43.959 --> 02:18:48.079 because you know, we're such sticklers for rules in this country. 2400 02:18:48.159 --> 02:18:49.840 You can't celebrate this before that. 2401 02:18:50.000 --> 02:18:52.680 Even though they have Christmas stuff out while they're seven 2402 02:18:52.719 --> 02:18:55.600 Halloween candy to the end of the shelf, you really 2403 02:18:55.639 --> 02:19:00.239 can't officially start celebrating Christmas here until Thanksgiving. And I 2404 02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:03.200 know this living way Europe. The end of November is 2405 02:19:03.280 --> 02:19:07.719 when all of the Christmas markets start opening up. From Germany, Switzerland, Italy. 2406 02:19:07.680 --> 02:19:10.319 All these places, we'll see two fifths. There's a month 2407 02:19:10.360 --> 02:19:14.200 of Christmas shopping, right. But it's amazed me the Black Friday. 2408 02:19:14.600 --> 02:19:16.840 It must become an institution worldwide. 2409 02:19:16.920 --> 02:19:19.239 Well two things I thought that was kind of well, 2410 02:19:19.280 --> 02:19:22.000 two things that make it so it shouldn't really amaze you, 2411 02:19:22.120 --> 02:19:25.600 I think, Bpete. One is that Christmas is a world 2412 02:19:26.399 --> 02:19:32.399 worldwide phenomena, right, so this is about the Christmas shopping season, 2413 02:19:32.559 --> 02:19:36.559 so to speak. And also these foreign websites and things 2414 02:19:36.639 --> 02:19:40.159 giving sales because of Black Friday. It's not because they care, 2415 02:19:40.319 --> 02:19:44.399 They're just serving their customers. They know that a major 2416 02:19:44.559 --> 02:19:48.479 chunk of consumers on the planet are guess where here 2417 02:19:48.520 --> 02:19:51.840 in the United States, so obviously they're going to use 2418 02:19:52.159 --> 02:19:54.159 you know, they're going to have a Fourth of July sale, 2419 02:19:55.239 --> 02:19:56.760 you know what I mean. And they don't care about 2420 02:19:56.760 --> 02:19:59.319 the fourth of July. They're going to do that if 2421 02:19:59.360 --> 02:20:02.520 that's where they're customers are. So I'm thinking to myself, 2422 02:20:02.760 --> 02:20:05.440 not all that amazing that Black Friday is a worldwide thing. 2423 02:20:05.520 --> 02:20:08.760 It should be because the whole world is kind of 2424 02:20:08.840 --> 02:20:12.760 dependent upon the big consumer nation at least, you know, 2425 02:20:13.079 --> 02:20:16.600 for the most part. And sure we don't make anything, 2426 02:20:16.760 --> 02:20:18.280 but we sure as hell do buy it. 2427 02:20:19.639 --> 02:20:22.639 So well true. But you know, it surprises me that 2428 02:20:22.799 --> 02:20:28.840 a Korean a show or an interview show that I mean, 2429 02:20:28.920 --> 02:20:33.280 it's on broadcast in Korea. When they do their interviews 2430 02:20:33.360 --> 02:20:37.280 with these artists, it's music people talking to music people 2431 02:20:37.319 --> 02:20:41.000 about music, which makes it a very interesting show that 2432 02:20:41.479 --> 02:20:43.920 you know, they put their little spotty in halfway through. 2433 02:20:44.120 --> 02:20:46.719 Oh and for Black Friday, it's just amazing most of 2434 02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:52.000 these countries will start their free Chrystmas sales before Black Friday, 2435 02:20:52.559 --> 02:20:55.680 that they all take advantage of Black Friding on their 2436 02:20:55.719 --> 02:20:58.959 websites and offer those discounts. I just thought that was 2437 02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:02.079 amazing that we taking something that started in this country. 2438 02:21:02.760 --> 02:21:04.799 And now, I mean I didn't see this a couple 2439 02:21:04.799 --> 02:21:05.280 of years ago. 2440 02:21:05.360 --> 02:21:06.840 It's just been in the past few years that to 2441 02:21:06.959 --> 02:21:07.280 going to. 2442 02:21:07.399 --> 02:21:09.399 It big well, right, in the past few years, what 2443 02:21:09.479 --> 02:21:12.120 they've tried to do is push what cyber Monday they 2444 02:21:12.239 --> 02:21:14.760 call it, right, and I don't even know what day 2445 02:21:14.879 --> 02:21:16.920 that is. I don't think that works so much. I 2446 02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:22.840 think Black Friday is just so recognizable and also American, 2447 02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:25.120 and I you know it used to be. And I'm 2448 02:21:25.159 --> 02:21:27.840 not saying that every country wants to be America, but 2449 02:21:29.319 --> 02:21:33.120 they want certain things that America has, and one of 2450 02:21:33.239 --> 02:21:37.760 them certainly is that big consumer market. So they have 2451 02:21:37.959 --> 02:21:41.120 to accommodate the consumer, and the consumer is going to 2452 02:21:41.200 --> 02:21:43.959 look for specials. Now they know the consumer is going 2453 02:21:44.040 --> 02:21:46.479 to be out there buying stuff. I mean, would I 2454 02:21:46.600 --> 02:21:49.000 be buying toys any other time of the year for 2455 02:21:49.159 --> 02:21:52.840 my son? Not that often, right, But this is also. 2456 02:21:52.719 --> 02:21:57.319 Rare that's effected. You know, black fighting people are online. 2457 02:21:57.879 --> 02:22:00.600 The majority of the majority of this has done for 2458 02:22:00.719 --> 02:22:04.440 Christmas now, I think has been the wine. Yeah, I mean, yes, 2459 02:22:04.520 --> 02:22:06.200 there's still a lot of big tails says in that, 2460 02:22:06.399 --> 02:22:08.719 but the majority of sales all happened all bound and 2461 02:22:09.639 --> 02:22:12.840 you know, they're just they're taking advantage of that situation. 2462 02:22:13.120 --> 02:22:15.040 I just thought I thought it was pretty unique that 2463 02:22:15.120 --> 02:22:19.479 we've had something now gotten as big as it has. 2464 02:22:20.680 --> 02:22:25.159 Well, a lot of Americanized things do become popular worldwide, 2465 02:22:25.200 --> 02:22:27.200 and that just happens to be one of them. And 2466 02:22:27.399 --> 02:22:29.600 you know, when you're talking about like the K pop stuff, 2467 02:22:29.680 --> 02:22:32.639 and I mean that's that's growing in popularity. A few 2468 02:22:32.719 --> 02:22:34.680 years ago, you would have been a real weirdo for 2469 02:22:34.799 --> 02:22:37.840 even you know, knowing about K pop maybe ten years ago. 2470 02:22:38.440 --> 02:22:41.280 But over the past couple of years now it's very 2471 02:22:41.360 --> 02:22:47.040 commonplace apparently. You know, I ask my daughter or her friends, 2472 02:22:47.360 --> 02:22:50.920 or my son and his friends, the older ones, you know, 2473 02:22:51.280 --> 02:22:54.000 what's up? What do you listen to? What are you into? 2474 02:22:54.319 --> 02:22:54.600 You know what? 2475 02:22:54.959 --> 02:22:58.920 They've got artists from parts of the world that you know, 2476 02:22:58.959 --> 02:23:00.680 when I was a kid, we would never even heard 2477 02:23:00.719 --> 02:23:06.120 of him, you know, not even close. And Korea, please, 2478 02:23:06.399 --> 02:23:08.360 you know, you would have been amazed to see an 2479 02:23:08.399 --> 02:23:12.040 electronic was made in Korea a couple of years ago. 2480 02:23:12.600 --> 02:23:13.879 You know, when I was a kid, there was a 2481 02:23:14.280 --> 02:23:16.799 Korean VCR makers, a couple of them, most of them 2482 02:23:16.840 --> 02:23:19.000 are made in Japan. But it was like wow, that 2483 02:23:19.280 --> 02:23:21.959 that VCR is made in Korea, and I actually liked 2484 02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:26.079 the Korean electronics a little better than the Japanese. But anyway, 2485 02:23:26.280 --> 02:23:27.040 Koreas was the. 2486 02:23:27.079 --> 02:23:30.639 Most wired nation in the world. All people didn't know that. 2487 02:23:31.559 --> 02:23:36.399 Well, South Korea is right, yeah, South Korea. North Korea 2488 02:23:36.520 --> 02:23:42.879 is its own island on to itself, but South wire right, so, 2489 02:23:43.120 --> 02:23:47.040 but well that kind of thing. So, but it's a 2490 02:23:47.159 --> 02:23:50.440 unique situation when it comes to electronics and culture and 2491 02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:55.760 all that. ANYWAYVPID anything else you want to add, Well. 2492 02:23:55.799 --> 02:23:57.440 News has been kind of right this week. 2493 02:23:57.479 --> 02:24:00.319 I've been concentrating heavily on foot ball. 2494 02:24:00.520 --> 02:24:03.399 In fact, I'm watching Georgia take on Georgia right now 2495 02:24:03.399 --> 02:24:06.120 and kick their butts. But cool, it's been a good week, 2496 02:24:07.360 --> 02:24:09.959 there you go. I was able to get some good 2497 02:24:10.079 --> 02:24:12.280 sleep in the day, though, and I was able to 2498 02:24:12.319 --> 02:24:14.920 go through the entire catalog of the M and M. 2499 02:24:15.600 --> 02:24:17.760 And listen to a bunch of music. I hadn't listened 2500 02:24:17.799 --> 02:24:18.120 to it a. 2501 02:24:18.280 --> 02:24:19.280 Long long time. 2502 02:24:19.680 --> 02:24:22.399 There you go. That's always fun. And I hope people 2503 02:24:22.479 --> 02:24:26.120 tuned into Aaron Franz's Thanksgiving Day special. He was on 2504 02:24:26.879 --> 02:24:31.040 his live streams all day doing his thing. A lot 2505 02:24:31.079 --> 02:24:34.559 of interesting video over there, because of the War on 2506 02:24:34.719 --> 02:24:40.479 Christmas special, but I'm sure you can watch the replays 2507 02:24:40.559 --> 02:24:42.920 on all of his video live streams, probably up on 2508 02:24:43.079 --> 02:24:46.520 YouTube and Twitch and all that, So you go check 2509 02:24:46.559 --> 02:24:48.559 it out, and if you don't know how to find it, 2510 02:24:49.040 --> 02:24:54.079 check out Franz simulation on x and you could definitely 2511 02:24:54.200 --> 02:24:58.479 track it all down. So there you go, and let's see. 2512 02:24:58.479 --> 02:25:02.079 I already read the Alex Jones clickbait headline of the day. 2513 02:25:03.319 --> 02:25:07.000 You know, things are continuing onward and upward, and you 2514 02:25:07.079 --> 02:25:09.920 know what, I guess we'll eventually recover from the selection 2515 02:25:11.399 --> 02:25:15.120 I'm hoping. So the media is definitely trying to shift 2516 02:25:15.159 --> 02:25:16.959 gears and figure out what they're going to do for 2517 02:25:17.040 --> 02:25:21.239 their next big rating push, and hopefully we'll be somehow 2518 02:25:21.479 --> 02:25:24.959 involved in keeping you informed as we go. So I 2519 02:25:25.040 --> 02:25:27.239 look forward to a full week of broadcast next week. 2520 02:25:27.360 --> 02:25:30.040 Happy to be back from Dallas. Although it was way 2521 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:32.959 too short. I felt like it was gone in the 2522 02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:35.040 blink of an eye, but I was waiting forever to go. 2523 02:25:35.959 --> 02:25:39.440 And if I am going to return next year, I 2524 02:25:39.559 --> 02:25:41.600 would love to see some of you guys go with 2525 02:25:41.760 --> 02:25:45.760 us this coming time. I know I'm going to make 2526 02:25:45.799 --> 02:25:49.319 sure it's a more interesting conference and going to make 2527 02:25:49.360 --> 02:25:52.440 sure that Lancer is the standout, I mean, the one 2528 02:25:52.520 --> 02:25:54.920 place that'll make me the MC for the damn day. 2529 02:25:55.440 --> 02:26:21.239 You gotta make sure it shift so that st