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Speaker 1: Yes, surely you can't be serious. You are listening to Yes,

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enjoy it, you will listen. You must even latching bound

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Speaker 2: Okay, d we're about to start season six.

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Speaker 1: Do you have the treasure map? Yes? I have the

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treasure map. Do you have the stones? You're dang right.

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I got the stones. I also have some pictures of

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your mind. Make it in the bath you want to

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buy them? My gosh, are you nuts? I'm the nuts?

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I'm crazy. Welcome back, everybody. It is the beginning of

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season six. And do we have an action packed, bigger

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than life treasure hunting competition at our beck and call here?

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Oh my gosh, it is the Goonies versus Indiana Jones

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and the Temple of Doom.

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Speaker 2: When you're talking about influential movies from the eighties, yeah,

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these are two of the big I mean, these movies

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impacted generations.

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Speaker 1: My kids love them, your kids love them. We still

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love them.

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Speaker 2: And actually we are finishing off the Indiana Jones trilogy today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so we say trilogy because once you're done

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with Last Crusade, you might as well stop. That is true, right,

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that's true. But for those of you who are just

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joining us today. Please go back and check out our

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other Indiana Jones episodes. We have one of our very

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first in our very first seasons, we have a matchup

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of Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Arc versus.

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Speaker 2: Lucas tried to change the name a few years ago,

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and I have always rejected that that movie is called

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Raiders of the Lost Arc.

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Speaker 1: I actually am fully with you. I think that maybe

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the first time I ever said that I've just got

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stuck on Indiana Jones. Oh gayse, forgive me, absolve me

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of my sins. Right, So we did Raiders of the

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Lost Arc versus Back to the Future, Yes, which is

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a great connection that we almost redid this time, because

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we talked about instead of doing Goonies versus Temple of Doom,

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we talked about doing Goonies versus Romancing the Stone. We

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did We almost did that, which would have been Zamechis

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and Spielberg, right, just like Raiders and Goonies. But then

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I saw, oh, hey, you know key Hu kwan Is,

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he's everywhere now right, He's got he's got one movie

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that just got released called Love Hurts. He's got another

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big one coming out called The Electric state, which I mean.

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It's directed by the Russo brothers who did all of

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those awesome Marvel movies. It's written by Chris Marcus, who

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did the Marvel movies, you know, Infinity War, Endgame, First Avenger.

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He also did Chronicles of Narnia. And it's got Chris Pratt, Millie,

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Bobby Brown, Key Hu Kwan obviously, and Woody Harrelson. And so, okay,

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I'm excited about that one. It is. It is on

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my list of movies to watch. I feel like I'm

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letting the team down.

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Speaker 2: Like Jeff Johnson basically put a gun to my head

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and said, you've got to watch everything everywhere, all at once.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen it, No, I haven't seen it. Okay,

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So I've got a story for you. And you know,

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normally we start these things off like I was saying.

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season one, we had a fantastic history. When we did

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Last Crusade last season, we had another fantastic history where

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we covered some of the stuff about Temple of Doom.

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we were comparing two sequels because Temple of Doom is

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not a sequel. It is a prequel exactly, takes place

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nineteen thirty five, one year before Raiders. Yeah, one year

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before Raiders. And so anyway, we we have all of

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that history. So I don't really want to go into that.

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and we've got Temple of Doom which has kwan as

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short round, and he's in all of these movies, I'm like, okay, well,

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this is kind of our quand double feature. So I thought,

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you know, what's he been doing for the last thirty

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years or twenty years or whatever it's been since he

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was making movies. The last thing I remember seeing him in,

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like back when we were kids, was like in Sino Man.

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Sean Aston as a matter of.

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Fraser of course. Brendan Fraser. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We took a vote and the computer Club.

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Speaker 1: He was the president with the valuable asset to our

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organized saying Shuter Club Computer Club, Oh boy. And they

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both won the Oscar that year, got the whale and

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you got everything everywhere all at once. Yeah, they get

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to meet up again. I mean it was a very

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small part, but he's just been kind of gone. So

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this dude. Right, So the history I'm going to give

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you is the Quan history. I'm not going to give

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you the necessarily the Goonese history or the Temple of

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Doom history, because well it overlaps all sorts of stuff

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we've already done. We've talked about it so many times.

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But here's his story. Right, he's the first actor born

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in Vietnam to win an Oscar. But he's not Vietnamese.

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He's Chinese. So he was born in seventy one I think. Okay,

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and so he's close to our age, but he's older

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than us. That doesn't seem right, Yeah, but okay, keep going.

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Vietnam War. It was a big battle over communism, and

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he was born in South Vietnam, and of course China

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is communist, and so there was this big movement just

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to mean, he's just a few years old when the

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Vietnam War ends, and so then there's like this big

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push in South Vietnam to kick out all of the Chinese,

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like they're in danger because of their worry about communism.

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and sisters, they have to like escape on a boat.

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in camps, like they're just they're barely making it, and

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they just luck out. There was a US refugee program

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for those displaced Chinese people, and he and his whole

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family they've managed to get back together again. Got to

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move to La which is where he grew up. And

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he got to La in nineteen seventy nine. Okay, so

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he missed Star Wars. Unfortunately you're here in time, right,

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there's this call for a new movie that they're looking

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for Asian kids for his little brother goes to audition

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and as you know, as the casting director is sitting there,

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he sees Kwan like pepping up his little brother and

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giving him acting techniques and ideas and stuff like that.

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to try to read for this? And he's like, oh, okay.

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his little brother that they called him in and they're like,

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we really think this is the kid. And so when

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and he have no idea what this is about. They're

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just like, hey, this, you know, I'm Steven Spielberg, or

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like you to meet me and George Lucas, and they're like,

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we feel like this is important. So she bought him

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a three piece suit, and so he shows up and

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meets George and Steven, and Steven just starts laughing at

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his three piece suit and gives him a big hug

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and they talk for a minute and he says, you

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know what, come back tomorrow and dress and you're more

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relaxed kind of clothes. And so when he comes back,

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it's Harrison Ford, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg. They immediately

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fall in love with him, and he gets the part

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of short Round four Temple of Doom. That's fantastic. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I heard that they sat Harrison Ford down

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with the kid, and they said, improva game where he's

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cheating like Indiana Jones. Here's the Ford's cheating and you

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catch him cheating and you're mad at him.

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Speaker 1: Ready go? And of course that shows back up in

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the movie. Here I very small, you very big, you

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cheat very big?

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yeah you no fun, no fun to play with you.

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session when they were casting him.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. It's one of my that's one of the

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best little comedy scenes in there because it's this great

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dark movie intermixed with these little comedic little motives. It's great. Yeah.

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Steven Spielberg says to him, Hey, good job on this movie.

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I've got another movie where you pay play this kind

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of James Bond character who has all these gadgets. It's

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called The Goonies.

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Speaker 2: How about how about I make you in two great

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movies right.

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Speaker 1: Back to back, right. And then the other thing is,

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you know in the movie he uses taekwondo to fight people, right.

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learning taekwondo. Okay, he didn't quit, so he had initially

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started training with Philip Tan. He ultimately ended up training

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with Tao lying Tan, who also taught Bruce Lee's daughter,

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like a second degree black belt in taekwondo. As he's

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is still studying martial arts the whole time. Well parts

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action choreography, and so Kwan uses his martial arts skills

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and learns action choreography from this guy, and he becomes

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like the martial arts trainer for different people in all

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of these movies that he's become a part of. Behind

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the scenes. So he works with this director Corey Yin

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on X Men. Graphe for X Men. That's cool.

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and all these guys.

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like the real X Men with all of that fighting.

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Jason and Statham, Carla Guncino, Jetly Hall pass by the

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way for Carlo Guncino, I'm not familiar with her. Is

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with poly Shore. Yes, yes, of course that's yes, as

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long as we're talking about Brendan Fraser movies and yeah, okay.

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the Chunking Express in nineteen ninety four, which is an

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which is eight point one IMDb and twenty forty six,

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where Ki Kwan serves for his first time as the

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first assistant director. I would get to seven point four.

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I'm like hitting my my watch list for IMDb. I'm like,

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I'm excited about this. But then he's like he's feeling

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like he's missing something because work kind of dries up.

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I want to start acting again, okay, And so he

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and he says, I'd like to get back into acting.

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Would you like to present me? And the guy's like, sure,

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I will do it. Two weeks later, one of the Daniels.

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The Daniels are the guys who directed everything everywhere, all

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at once, Okay. They're trying to find and actor who

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can play both a goofy, kind of inept husband who's lovable, okay,

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a James Bond kind of love interest character for a

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different alternate universe, and a master martial artist for yet

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that guy got an agent two weeks earlier. Wow. And

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we're we would love for you to read this script

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if you can. And so he reads the He reads

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an amazing and original script, which I can't believe you

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have not seen that movie yet. I know I'm letting

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the team down, I'm telling you. So they see him

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and they're like, yes, you get the part. But that's

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a big movie, like it's produced by the Russo brothers,

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speaking of them, right right. And so in the meantime,

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he's having some lunch with a friend. His friend starts

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talking to a director he knows just like has directed

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some TV episodes for various important TV shows. Right her name,

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her name is Jude Wang all right, and she's like,

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I'm about to do this Netflix movie. It's a combination

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of Indiana Jones and Goonies. And he's standing right there

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and he's like, I was in both of those movies.

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she's like, hey, do you want to have a part

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in this movie? And so sure enough, I think it's

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called Searching for Ohana. He has a little warm up

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acting bit before he goes into everything everywhere, all at once.

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Just a small part in this in this Netflix movie. Wow.

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here to these two movies we're talking about today. That's fantastic, man.

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Speaker 2: There by the way, it is rich coming from you

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pointing your.

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Speaker 1: Finger at me. I know I haven't seen Commando, which

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we're going to cover. I have not seen Rambo, which

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we're covering later this season against each other. Yes, yeah,

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I also haven't seen sant Almo's Fire, which we might

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be covering this season as well. So here, you're right,

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you've got some work. I've got some homework to do

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as well. And also you revealed that you had never

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seen Red Don. I have never seen Red Don. I

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have never seen about Last Night. There's a lot of kids,

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you know, the R rated movies. I didn't get to

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see them. Yes, most of the time, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Red Don, Just while we're here for just

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a second trivia question, what is the first PG thirteen

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movie ever released?

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Speaker 1: Red Don? It's Red Don? How did I figure that out?

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Speaker 2: However, Yeah, the reason why we have PG thirteen movies

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basically you can lay at the feet of Indiana Jones

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and the Temple of Doom. Yes, and Gremlins right which

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who wrote Goonies Chris Columbus And who wrote Grimlins?

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Speaker 1: Chris Columbus. Huh yeah, I mean there you go, right

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right there.

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Speaker 2: And it was Spielberg's brain chot like He's like, listen,

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this should not be rated PG.

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Speaker 1: We don't want it rted R.

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Speaker 2: There should be something in between PG and R. And

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parents were I mean parents were upset. Yeah, people eating

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chilled monkey brains.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure how polter Geist wasn't in the

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conversation for this thing, but.

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Speaker 2: Polter Geist really was maybe the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Of the whole thing. I mean, Jeezy, you look at Jaws.

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I mean Jaws for goodness sake is a PG movie

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that's nuts, I know, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the scene in Polter Guys with the guy peels

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his face off, I mean that was a double hand

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peek through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was not able to eat fried chicken for

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a while after watching that movie. We got to do

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that one soon, We got to cover Polter Guys. Poltergeist

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has to be a Halloween episode in the season or

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the next time. All right, which of these movies going

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to dive deep on? First? You want to hit Temple

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of Doom while we're right here. I mean, Temple of

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Doom came out in eighty four. Goonies came out in

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eighty five. It seems like we should go ahead and do.

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Speaker 2: That, Okay, So I think it's interesting the genesis of

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Indiana Jones at the Temple of Doom.

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Speaker 1: We know, Raiders of Lost Dark became.

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Speaker 2: This global phenomenon that was hugely successful. I remember looking

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at newspaper ads in nineteen eighty one basically saying held

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over for another six weeks and it just would.

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Speaker 1: Not leave the theater go away.

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Speaker 2: And it made gobs of money and was nominated for

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Best Picture, and it was just this incredible thing and

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I love it. It's still my all time favorite movie. Okay,

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But shortly after Raiders Are Lost Dark, Steven Spielberg makes

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another movie that goes even higher. Yeah, and we've covered

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that movie. We covered that movie when we did our

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Summer of nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that movie is called Et Et Et Versus The

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Thing Versus Blade Runner. Fantastic. I loved that. I was

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one of my favorite episodes that we did. So you

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guys definitely go check out. I mean that's season two

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that we did that. Yep. Yeah, so season two or

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season three, go check out Et Versus The Thing Versus

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Blade Runner, three phenomenal movies that were released within two

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weeks of each other, all June of eighty two.

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Speaker 2: Basically, The Thing and Blade Runner were buried in the

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wake of ET.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so was everything else to be fair, Yeah,

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And so Spielberg was not on just on fire. He

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was on Mega fire at this point, and they're a

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little bit worried that they're not going to get him

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for Temple of Doom.

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Speaker 2: Even though George Lucas and Steven Spielberger are like best buddies. Yeah,

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and Lucas is I mean, he makes the Star Wars

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movies for crying out life. It's not like he's a nobody, right,

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But they're a little bit nervous that if we don't

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get on this thing, Steven's gonna be doing other things

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and wish he's gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like this is that was like eighty two,

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script on this thing that's right now. When they did Raiders,

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Steven Spielberg says, George Lucas told me that or made

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me promise that I would direct all three because he

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had three story ideas. That was a lie, right, we

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had to write the other two stars that was that

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was not true. And you know, if you want, if

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you want some little deep dive into the Monkey King,

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which was a potential suspect to go check out our

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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade episode. But they they

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also talked about Haunted Castle they did, which is ghost.

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Spielberg was like, I just did Poltergeist. We can't do

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Haunted Castle. That doesn't make any sense, right, but yeah,

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they they then they went to Lawrence Kasden and they're like, hey,

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can you write us another script? Right? Yeah? And Kasden

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didn't beat around a bush on this one. He was like,

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I did not want to do this movie. I thought

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it was an ugly subject. I thought it was just mean,

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and I didn't want to be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So before we get to that point, though, I

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want to throw this one out there.

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Speaker 1: This is the idea that I thought was the worst. Okay.

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Speaker 2: And Lucas can come up with some terrible ideas. And

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I love the guy and I respect him to death,

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and he shaped my.

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Speaker 1: Childhood for Pete's sake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, he comes up with like these

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action sequence ideas in his head, and one of them

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was a motorcycle chase on the Great Wall of China.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right. He also talked about leftover scenes from Raiders

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of Lost Ark. Well, do you know the rest of

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the scene on the motorcycle chase on the Great Wall?

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He comes across some artifact which opens up the Lost

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World and there are dinosaurs. That's that was the bad

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idea of it was like a good idea of bad finish. Right, Yeah,

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I've seen whatever that the Land of the Lost. I

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don't want Indiana Jones to go to the Land of

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the Lost. That's a terrible idea.

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Speaker 2: Right, But in the original script for Indiana Jones, they

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had a like a biplane.

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Speaker 1: We do see that later.

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Speaker 2: It just reappears in Last Crusade. Yep, right, they had

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a he was supposed to like this, the head piece

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of the Staff of Raw was in two pieces. And

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so the gunfight in China where he was supposed to

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get one half of the Staff of Raw, yep, jump

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out of an airplane in a life raft.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to he was supposed to dodge machine

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gun fire while running behind a gong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the gong, right, yeah, and then he was going

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to end up That's how he's going to get to Nepal,

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like jump out of the airplane and the life raft

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and then go see Marian and get the.

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Speaker 1: Other piece, and yep, yeah, that's how he's supposed to

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end up in the Himalayas.

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Speaker 2: And thankfully Casden said no, let's just streamline this whole

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thing a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But those pieces were.

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Speaker 2: Left over with the Monkey King and the Haunta Castle

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and that whole thing, and.

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Speaker 1: Also the mine cart. The mine cart, it's a leftover

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for Raiders of the Lost Arc. It didn't make it

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in and so they said, hey, let's let's bring it

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in on this one. So they got They got the

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folks that George Lucas had worked with on American Graffiti. Yes,

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married couple of writers named Willard Huck and Gloria Katz,

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and they in early eighty two, they spent four days

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at Skywalker Ranch brainstorming ideas to try to come up

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with what's going to work. One of the things that

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they came up was with was the name of some

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of the characters. Okay, as everybody knows, Indiana gets his

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name from George Lucas's dog. Maybe everybody doesn't know that,

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but that's that's what happened. Indiana is the name of

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George Lucas's dog. Yep. So Steven Spielberg had a dog

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named Willie, so that's where you get Willy's character. And

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the Hucks had a dog had a dog named Short Round.

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Now I saw this, and then I saw that they

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got that name Short Round from a movie called The

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Steel Helmet. I went and looked at The Steel Helmet.

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Person who plays Short Round is a young Chinese boy

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who's helping the American soldier. His name's William Chun. If

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you want to go look it up. But I thought, well,

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that's a nice little circle there. They named their dog

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after the little Chinese boy, and then they named the

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little Chinese boy after their dog. That's it, right, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I told you this, and I don't

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want to jump on anybody too harshly.

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Speaker 1: But when you have Lawrence Caston and he creates this

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amazing script for Ridgers of the Lost Ark and Empire

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strikes back, and Empire strikes back, yeah, I think you

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bend over backwards to bring him back.

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Speaker 2: And if it means scraping your idea and you know,

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starting over, I think you do that. But of course

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Lucas is hardheaded, and he said, well, we're going to

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make this demonic temple thing in India, and Casin's like,

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I don't really want to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. There's just a guy

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who puts his hand into somebody's chest while they're still

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alive and pulls out there still beating heart, and then

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it catches on fire as they're dunked in a molten

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lava dip. Right, what's dark about that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, black magic and child slavery, it's all.

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Speaker 1: It's all fun and games. I don't know why Lawrence

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Kasten was being so sensitive.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the Hawks, the married couple, as you said,

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worked with Lucas on American Graffiti. They go on to

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bigger and better things after Temple Doom.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not true. They right, whatever happened to them?

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This is how you kill a career.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you do Temple a Doom, which is a

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big money maker but really one of the most disappointed

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in Indiana Jones movies up until the latter two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and a absolute success by comparison to those two,

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that's sure.

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Speaker 2: But they go on to do Best Defense. The Dudley Moore,

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Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, Oh right, Eddie Murphy is in

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it for like ten minutes, does nothing, but it was

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sold as an Eddie Murphy movie and people hated it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like even Eddie Murphy hated it. Right, he was like,

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this is the dumbest thing I've ever been a part of.

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Dudley Moore, and he did Beverly Hills Cop three. Go

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back and check out our Beverly Hills Cop three episode.

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Speaker 2: But after Best Defense, they go on and they help

469
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right Howard the Duck, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Wanh wanh wanh ah. That's a good what the heck happened?

471
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:47,359
We got to do that. I'd love to me. They've

472
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got the writers from American Graffiti and Temple of Doom,

473
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and then you get Howard the Duck like and it's

474
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got Leah Thompson just in her hottest time of her life. Yeah,

475
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:04,839
and a Marvel comic and it all just crap. It sucked.

476
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:11,880
That movie sucked. What that sucks? Yeah? So yeah. I

477
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,279
mean again, guys, if you haven't seen our what the

478
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,200
heck Happened, We've looked at Beverly Hills, Cop three and Superman.

479
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Speaker 2: Four and Jaws four and Phantom Menace and Star Trek

480
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,839
the Most Picture.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and you know what, some of those movies

482
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:28,240
turn out to be better than they were back then,

483
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,759
but most of them they're they're worthy of the hate.

484
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,519
We do like to take the deep dive into what

485
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,160
what happened? Why? Yeah happened? Yeah? Yeah.

486
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Speaker 2: So this summer we're going to do Batman and Robin

487
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Versus Superman returns.

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Speaker 1: At Nipples Stalker Superman. By the way, I just want

489
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to mention one other thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, George Lucas came up with the idea before they

491
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had short round in mind. He wanted this virginal princess

492
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idea to be a sidekick of Indiana Jones.

493
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Speaker 1: We already have a pedophile Indiana Jones problem with Raiders.

494
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:05,000
We do not need to like bury it completely. She

495
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,039
knew what she was doing.

496
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Speaker 2: We've already established Barry and knew what she was doing

497
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:10,119
was a child.

498
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Speaker 1: We weren't a virginal princess. That's right. Yeah, yes, Spielberg

499
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:21,599
and and Willard Huck and Gloria Katz both while all

500
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,039
wisely said we're not doing that, George, Yeah, that's funny.

501
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,359
All right.

502
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Speaker 2: Do we want to dive into the cast or we

503
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,720
want to flip back.

504
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,599
Speaker 1: To let's talk about the goonies. Right, let's go back

505
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:52,400
to goonies. Come in, you're so stup. Spielberg is coming

506
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,240
off of Temple of Doom. But he's already got he's

507
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,279
already got the Goonies in the works, so that he's

508
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,960
ready to talk to Kee Kwan immediately. Right, Hey, you

509
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,000
worked a short round. Come on over.

510
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do this great movie about foreclosure in the

511
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goon docks.

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Speaker 1: The goon docks, right, you know more about that, Like

513
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,680
why it's called the goon Docks. No idea, no idea, Okay,

514
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,920
and we haven't found it. And we looked. I could

515
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,119
barely even see them nipples.

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Speaker 2: Let's yeah, in this, in the Goonies, you've got Steven

517
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,640
Spielberg at the height of his powers. Yep, You've got

518
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Richard Donner at the height of his powers. Yeah, you've

519
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,160
got Chris Columbus on the way up right. Yeah, I

520
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,039
mean Chris Columbus writes Gremlins, he writes Goonies, he does

521
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,920
Young Showick Holmes, that's all.

522
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Speaker 1: In eighty forty five.

523
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Speaker 2: He directs Adventures in Babysitting. We talked about him when

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we did Christmas Vacation.

525
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about him in Gremlins too, And that's

526
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,680
a great His story is a great story because he

527
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,480
was a very intelligent guy, got a scholarship to film school,

528
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and then forgot to fill out the paperwork to keep

529
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the scholar and so he had to start working like

530
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,920
in some industrial plant. Right. He couldn't afford a decent

531
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880
place to live anymore, and so he's living in this

532
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:14,880
rat invested flophouse and these little rats keep scurrying by

533
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,599
his fingers and nibbling at his fingers, and he wakes

534
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160
up with the idea for Grimlins. And so the fact

535
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,799
that he was dumb and a dumb kid and didn't

536
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,200
get his scholarship led to the creation of one of

537
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160
the most iconic movies of the eighties, which then leads

538
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000
to Steven Spielberg going, Hey, loved what you did with Grimlins.

539
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,440
You obviously can write kids very well. Why don't you

540
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,519
come over here work on this story idea that I have.

541
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Speaker 2: You remember why you read that script, the Grimlin script?

542
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Chris Columbus is name. Because he's like, hey,

543
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,279
this guy's really named Chris Columbus, right, yes, yes, it is,

544
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,039
my god, yes, sir.

545
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Interesting that John Williams doesn't work on the Goonies at all.

546
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: It is, it is. But you've got the guy who

547
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:00,720
does the score. Well we can we'll talk score here

548
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,160
in a little bit. Yeah, we'll talk score part two.

549
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Okay forget Okay, So Spielberg recruits Donner and they think,

550
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first order of business, I mean, they've got an idea

551
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,880
of what the story is going to be. We know

552
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,839
it's going to be about kids, right, and first order

553
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,799
of business is we've got to find a place to film, right,

554
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,880
and they're down in southern Los Angeles, right right. They

555
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,319
literally start driving up the coast just looking, let's let's

556
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:28,680
find this place. I mean, we know that there's a

557
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,039
pirate ship, so we have to be somewhere near the ocean.

558
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And so they're just literally driving up the California coast

559
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,519
until California is now Oregon. Yeah. Yeah, And so they

560
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680
run into the next state and they get to a

561
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story organ and it is pouring rain, like it's a

562
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,960
torrential downpour, and they're just like, guys, we just got

563
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:54,519
to stop. I can't drive through this, and so they

564
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,960
just get a hotel for the night, not even thinking

565
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,519
this is a place, right right. They wake up in

566
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,000
the morning, it is no longer raining. They're all getting

567
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:06,400
in the van to start heading further north to trying

568
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,119
to find the location. And then the sun comes up

569
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,640
over the horizon and they see this beautiful little town

570
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,200
that has all these wonderful homes intermixed with all of

571
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:24,079
these beautiful trees, and it's like magic, like it's just like, guys,

572
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200
this is it, this is it, this is it. And

573
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,880
so they literally the story takes place in a story

574
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organ that is where they filmed virtually all of this.

575
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880
It's fantastic. I will say this. I loved the look

576
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,559
of the town. It looks quaint, it looks piratey, you know, oceane,

577
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,119
you know. But there's a real for people who like to.

578
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Speaker 2: Visit these places where places where movies are filmed and

579
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,039
stuff like that. For some reason, this really draws a

580
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:55,000
lot of people. In fact, the gooney House like was

581
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,359
bought by somebody a few years ago and they have

582
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:02,000
to put up a no trespassing because people were walk

583
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
like walking on the porch and taking pictures and looking

584
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,240
in the windows and all kinds of stuff.

585
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: If you want to go to Google Earth huh, or

586
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,759
street view on Google Maps, it's three sixty eight thirty

587
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:20,480
eighth Street in Astoria. If you want to see Haystack Rock,

588
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,720
which is that iconic rock. Yeah, just google Haystack Rock

589
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,799
and you'll be able to see that's a real deal.

590
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,559
Like they saw that and they're like, gosh, this is

591
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:31,079
another perfect place to film. It looks like a little

592
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:33,720
medallion could tell you where to start looking for the

593
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:37,400
treasure pot Trivi your question for you? Yeah, Another kind

594
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,200
of prominent movie was shot in a story organ any ideas.

595
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: No, I don't have any kindergarten cop Oh wow.

596
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah that's a great one. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

597
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,119
there you go. Fantastic. Okay, let's talk about the cast. Okay,

598
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,240
let's do casting, all right.

599
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,079
Speaker 2: So, as Mikey in Goonies, you have Sean Aston.

600
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,799
Speaker 1: But that tells me the truth. You know what he said?

601
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,319
He told me that one Eyed Willie his bunch were

602
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:05,160
down there for five six years and they were taking

603
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,559
all these tunnels and caves, sitting booty traps, booby traps,

604
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160
that's what I said, Sitting booby traps so that anybody

605
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:13,839
tried to get in they were die. And then you

606
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,359
know what he did. He killed all of his men.

607
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, he had done one other thing, like a

608
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,400
TV movie before he was hired to this, right right.

609
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,400
The TV movie he did is is a TV movie

610
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,279
called Please Mom, Don't.

611
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:31,519
Speaker 1: Hit Me, which start his own mother. Oh wow, right now,

612
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:36,359
Sean Aston is the son of the guy from the

613
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Adams family. Right, well, Gomez is he? I don't know?

614
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,880
Is there? I mean, there's a story. Okay, wow, this

615
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,920
is exciting. Okay. Yeah. So his mother is Patty Duke.

616
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,279
She's a famous American actress. Yeah, yes, the Patty Duke

617
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:50,599
Show where she played twins.

618
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: There you go, ill. I used to watch it all

619
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the time. Okay, yeah, well she became pregnant.

620
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Speaker 1: Huh.

621
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Speaker 2: But she wasn't sure who it was, all right. It

622
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:09,559
was either Desi Ernez, Yes, that Desi Ernez. Oh, John Aston, right,

623
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,599
go mess from the Adams family, Go Mess from the

624
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:16,000
Adams family. Or Michael Tell, who is like an author.

625
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,400
Oh all right, okay, so here's the deal.

626
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Sean has said.

627
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,199
Speaker 2: All three of those guys are close enough where he

628
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440
if he needs fatherly advice. He loves all of them.

629
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
They're all involved in his life. It's a great deal.

630
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:29,599
Speaker 1: Okay.

631
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: He grew up believing that John Aston was his dad,

632
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239
given the last name, and all yeah, Gomez from the

633
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Adams family. Well, when he was like fifteen or something,

634
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,639
they did at paternity test and it's Michael Tell.

635
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: H the author. Yes, okay, but it could have been

636
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,320
one of three. It was one of three. It was

637
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,400
one of three. It wouldn't it have been terrible if

638
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,480
it was not one of us? Oh yeah, I forgot

639
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:59,239
about that one. Gosh. So there you go. Uh.

640
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: And then you also have Josh Brolin, who has hired

641
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,119
as brand my new tired.

642
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: Who is James Brolin's son, James Roland's son. I'm pretty

643
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,400
confident that that one's actually his dad. Yes, I think

644
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,280
that's true. By the way, do you know the story,

645
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Like Josh Brolin, of course, he's got this part in

646
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:34,039
Goony's and then you don't see him in much of

647
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,639
anything for a long time, right, and then all of

648
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:41,760
a sudden, No Country for Old Men comes out and

649
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,280
he's he's got that part, and he says he did

650
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440
it for basically nothing, but it launches him like he

651
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:52,440
is now a megastar because of that movie. Well, the

652
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,840
story is, he wasn't supposed to get that offer. The

653
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,760
Coen Brothers thought they were offering the part to his dad, James,

654
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:05,199
the guy who we talked about. He was a potential

655
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,159
James Bond, like James Thorne was a potential James Bond.

656
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,599
He was. He was in all those nighttime soap operas

657
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:14,519
from the eighties, right. But they the Coen Brothers sent

658
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:18,280
it to Josh thinking they were sending it to James. Oh,

659
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,119
and so he stole the part from his dad. How

660
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:22,519
about that?

661
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, his dad, as you mentioned was in a lot

662
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:28,880
of soap operas, was in line maybe during the Octopus

663
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,599
Years to take over the James Bond part.

664
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: He also plays the pee Wee Herman.

665
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: Spy version on the big screen as p W with

666
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,920
Morgan Fairchild.

667
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: Pee Wee Herman. This is a movie that came out

668
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,920
in eighty five as well. Right, ye are we going

669
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,320
to do that movie? I love that movie. I know

670
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,480
you love that. I love it. I do not love

671
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,519
that movie, but okay, I'm going to turn the tide

672
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,000
for you. Okay, all right, And I have actually seen it,

673
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:01,559
Praise God. I mean that's something. Yeah, but I saw

674
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,480
it as an adult instead of a child. Okay.

675
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Josh Brolin though. He talks about

676
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,079
his rough upbringing, and I'm like, wait a minute. Didn't

677
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:12,000
you grow up in Malibu?

678
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: Didn't you have a didn't you have a.

679
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: Really famous dad? Like well, he would steal cars to

680
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,639
buy heroin Oh wow?

681
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Prior to the Gooney movie.

682
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: Okay, he was involved in this like little surfer punk gang. Right,

683
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880
that is crazy steal cars to buy drugs.

684
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, where else you gonna get money? Not

685
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,719
from that? I guess?

686
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,679
Speaker 2: So did you know that he was married to Diane Lane.

687
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,559
Oh I think I did know like a decade. Yeah,

688
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,440
so Brand from the Goonies married Cherry Valence from the Outsiders.

689
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,800
Yeah how about that? Yeah, Okay, let's talk about Jeff

690
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,599
Cohen for a second.

691
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Brand Michael Jackson didn't come over to my house,

692
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,760
but his sister did.

693
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,119
Speaker 2: Jeff Cohen might be the greatest, foremants.

694
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

695
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,639
Speaker 2: I mean, he does so great in this movie, and

696
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
I really don't think I've seen him in anything else,

697
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,880
no other than when he's talking about making this movie.

698
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. So he originally came in to do

699
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,280
the part for Mouth because he could do voices and

700
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,039
stuff like that. But when he did it, they're like,

701
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,519
why don't you come back and this time read for chunk.

702
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,800
So he went back and read over the chunk lines,

703
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,920
came back and got the part. Now, who were going

704
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,039
to have for Mouth? They didn't just automatically give it

705
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,800
to Corey Feldman, even though he was a very experienced actor.

706
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,840
Uh huh you heard this story. Well, he had to

707
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,320
go read for it, and you know who he saw.

708
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,559
He ran into this guy named Corey Haym Yeah, right

709
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,599
right right. The Corey's met for the very first time

710
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
because they were both reading for the part of Mouth

711
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,719
in the Goonies. How about that crazy.

712
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:57,199
Speaker 2: By the way, I want to tell you a quick

713
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,920
story about Jeff Cohen. So Cohen goes on to be

714
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,280
an entertainment lawyer. Okay, right, he actually represents Kei Kwan

715
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,440
as his Lawyertastic.

716
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: You didn't know that. I did not know that. There

717
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,440
you go. Okay.

718
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: So, in fact, when he won his oscar, he thanked

719
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,039
him and I want to thank my lawyer, Jeff Cohen Chunk, right,

720
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:21,840
you know, Okay, But there is a scene in the

721
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,800
movie I want to point out to you. Okay, it's

722
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,599
when Chunk is he's been sort of captured by the

723
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:32,119
Fortellies and he's eating ice cream below them.

724
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: He's like, you guys didn't listen to me. I told

725
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,920
you you didn't listen.

726
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,079
Speaker 2: Yes, And they reach down, they grab and they pulled

727
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,840
the ice cream out of his hand, right, and then

728
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,880
he's sad, but at least he's got the spoon and

729
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,119
he goes this, put the spoon in his mouth, and

730
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,360
they yank the spoon out of his hand and he

731
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,079
starts to cry.

732
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: He just.

733
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: You can hear Richard Donner laughing. They kind of cover

734
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,320
it because they make it kind of sound like it's

735
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,880
Chunk crying.

736
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: It's Donner laughing. So you're blame. I got me very

737
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:14,639
That's that is awesome. He does so well in this part.

738
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Donner talked about his doing this movie and he was

739
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,159
They're like, well, you know, in the middle of it,

740
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,000
how do you feel about it? He's like, I contemplate

741
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:26,559
suicide at He's like, individually, each of the kids were

742
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:30,119
wonderful and great people and fantastic actors. But once you

743
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,400
got them all together, it's what happens when you get

744
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,360
kids together, especially boys, right, everything everything goes out the window,

745
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,119
like everybody's nuts and distracted. And you know, they say

746
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,239
that a boy has a brain, two boys have half

747
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,159
a brain, and three boys have no brain at all.

748
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:48,079
And so yeah, you get all these kids together plus

749
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:51,039
the heroin addicted Josh Brolin, and it's it's not a

750
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,480
good mixture. But he said the other the other side

751
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,480
of it was they were so youthful and childlike that

752
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,199
it made him feel youthful and childlike as well, which

753
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,920
I don't want to I don't want to deep dive

754
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:07,119
into the back meaning of this movie, because this is

755
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,840
really just a fun movie. But this is a movie

756
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,679
about holding onto your childhood, right, Like, sure, what we

757
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,440
have at Steak is not just you know, we're trying

758
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,360
to find a treasure. This is our last adventure before

759
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,559
our childhood is taken from us. Those are big steaks, right,

760
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,199
and so and and and Aston is the perfect guy

761
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,400
to be the every man. Guys, We've got to do

762
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:34,800
this because.

763
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Our time, our time down here.

764
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: You got it. That's perfect, That's exactly right. Yes, that's it. Okay,

765
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,679
let's talk about Corey Feldman for a second, okay? Or

766
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,159
what is is that? All? You know? I wanted to

767
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:56,039
Venus Sclepede. I want to see a fresh about one.

768
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,719
The only thing we serve is.

769
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: Corey Feldman had one of the greatest runs in the

770
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:06,679
nineteen eighties.

771
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people.

772
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: He's a weirdo and he does things that he looks

773
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:12,880
like he just drives people nuts like he.

774
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't I can't figure out how he is not

775
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,519
clued into his own weirdness. He's weird, man. I mean,

776
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,159
there's he's got so much potential because he is a

777
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,360
good actor. He's fantastic his mouth in this. Yeah, let

778
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,000
me just read off the movies that he did in

779
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,599
the nineteen eighties. Okay, yeah, stop me when you've got

780
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,800
a stinker. Okay, right, all right, You've got The Fox

781
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,280
and the Hound.

782
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: Oh right, yep, you've got Friday the Thirteenth, the final

783
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,440
chapter where he basically kills Jason.

784
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: Yepkay, you've got Gremlins. Spoiler alert, sorry, sorry for Gremlins.

785
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gooonies, stand by Me, the Lost Boys. Yeah, Licensed

786
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:56,519
to Drive the Burbs, Wait.

787
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: Wait, licenses drive, moment of silence for Heather Graham.

788
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, license to drive, and then the verbs. Yeah,

789
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,480
and then you've got dream a little dream. Now that's

790
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:06,840
a stinker.

791
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you say, there you go, there's your stop point.

792
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,519
Speaker 2: And really from that point on, yeah, it's a little rough.

793
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: But that run right there. Impressive. Yeah. So yeah, he

794
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,119
does a great job.

795
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: He does wear the Purple Rain T shirt the entire time,

796
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,679
which I secretly love. Right, Yeah, go back to our

797
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,559
Purple Rain track by track episode one of.

798
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: The best albums in the eighties. So.

799
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: Chris Columbus's first screenplay, Yes, was a movie called Reckless

800
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Yes that was edited by Albert Magnoli, who went on

801
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,000
to direct Purple Ring.

802
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: That's right, right, great, yes, go back and check out

803
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:49,159
our Purple Rain versus Footloose movie to movie, album to album.

804
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,559
Wonderful story there. That's right. Okay.

805
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,559
Speaker 2: Then you've got keyhoy Kwan who plays Data.

806
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,639
Speaker 1: Good Shoes Shoes are you?

807
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: He does this James Bond type of character, and he

808
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,039
has all these little gadgets that he does. I put

809
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,920
it out to our text group today, the Shirley League.

810
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,480
When Data uses his little the little teeth chompers right.

811
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,039
And actually there's a deleted scene that cracks me up.

812
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:29,440
He shoots the pinchers and it gets mouth in the button.

813
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,119
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's so funny.

814
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: But he says, guys, I've been saved by my pinchers

815
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,079
of power.

816
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: Power, right.

817
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: I thought it was power. You thought it was power.

818
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,719
Everybody thought it was power. On the subtitles, it's pinchers

819
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,000
of peril.

820
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: You guys. I'm mistad his pictures.

821
00:44:56,679 --> 00:44:59,159
Speaker 2: So our buddy Pat Cannagallo sent me a copy of.

822
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:03,639
Speaker 1: The script Gonna Canagallo from the thirty something Movie podcast.

823
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:06,159
Speaker 2: Go check that, Go check those guys. Yeah, And so

824
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,639
I checked the script. It's pictures of Harrol.

825
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:14,519
Speaker 1: I've been I've been rocked for forty year. Things you

826
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,840
only learn on the Shirley Podcast and gentlemen, that's it.

827
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,639
Carrie Green plays Andy. Yeah. She she did a great job.

828
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,440
Huh cute. Yeah, disappeared. She's been in a few things,

829
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,360
has she Well, I.

830
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: Mean she was in Summer Rental with John Candy, Okay,

831
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,320
she was in Lucas with Charlie Sheen and Corey Haim.

832
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: That was before this. That was after this, That was

833
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,199
after this, Okay, that was shortly after that was all

834
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,639
like right around the same time, right around the same time, right,

835
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,960
so what after not much? Yeah, okay, not much. Yeah.

836
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: By the way, another person who auditioned for that role

837
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,360
carry Green's roll. Yes, yeah, Heather Lane camp Oh from

838
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:58,880
Nightmare and el Street l Street Yeah, Nancy Zone yeah.

839
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: Yep, okay.

840
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: Martha Plimpton plays Steph Yep. She was in like Parenthood

841
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:11,079
Mosquito Coast. When I watched the commentary, just just reading

842
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:15,320
the room, Corey Feldman seemed to bug everybody.

843
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,199
Speaker 1: Everybody loved Key.

844
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,679
Speaker 2: Josh Bolin was their leader, and then Martha Plimpton was

845
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,599
actually kind of the humor of the group.

846
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: Really she was the funny one. Okay, what a great

847
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,679
combination of characters there, because you have the popular cheerleader

848
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,039
with the sarcastic, kind of nerdy, homely girl. That's it.

849
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, I feel like I'm babysating. I'm not getting paid, right, Okay,

850
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:42,760
I want to talk about John.

851
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: Mctusac, who plays Sloth. Okay, does that name ring a

852
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,599
bell to you? Yes? It does, because I did a

853
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,760
best of nineteen eighty six with Jeff Johnson of the

854
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:57,440
Film By podcast, right, and we did one Crazy Summer Yes,

855
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,119
And at the beginning of it hoops on QSX character

856
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,440
is being chased by this motorcycle gang and there's this big, bushy, bearded,

857
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:11,719
pink haired motorcycle guy and it's John metusac. Yes, And

858
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,719
I was like, I've recognized that dude's face. Where do

859
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,519
I recognize it from? Well, I started searching him, like, oh,

860
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,360
he was an NFL player, and it was this weird

861
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,239
thing where like he was playing for the NFL and

862
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,119
the AFL at the same time. They literally had to

863
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:29,360
serve him seasoned assist papers on the field. But he

864
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:33,000
was this big, bad burley football player who then got

865
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:36,440
into acting, and then I was like, well, what else

866
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,199
has he done? And then I saw he was Sloth

867
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:42,360
on Goonies and I'm like, oh yeah, of course, this

868
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,000
giant Burley guy. And I'm like, what happened to him?

869
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,119
Oh yeah? Like two years later he died from a

870
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,119
extreme drug overdose. I will say this though, is Sloth

871
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,840
the heart of the Goonies. He's one of the hearts

872
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,280
for sure? Yeah, I mean yeah, And you've.

873
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Got this gigantic NFL football player playing this could be weird,

874
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:02,960
messed up careagter kind of of mice and men.

875
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:06,559
Speaker 1: Okay. Also in this movie, you've got as the Fertellies,

876
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:10,559
you've got Robert Dove. Robert Dove who was Agent Johnson,

877
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,760
not the the other one. But did you know he

878
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,559
was trained as a classical singer, Like he started his

879
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:17,480
career as a singer.

880
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,559
Speaker 2: Makes sense because he flexes his muscles a little bit

881
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:21,639
and he sings.

882
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: The opera and everybody's like, oh gosh.

883
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: And then he was a bad guy and licensed to kill.

884
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,119
He was a bond bad guy.

885
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And then you've got Joe Pentlano, who if

886
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,320
you if he's such a great bad guy. I mean,

887
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,360
he's the best bad guy in Matrix. He is a

888
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,159
fantastic sort of crummy bad guy in Memento. I mean

889
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:46,119
he's just he's good as.

890
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: A bad in one of my eighties guilty Pleasures. He's

891
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,639
a bad guy in Running Scared. Okay, Robert Dove and

892
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,239
Joe Panteleiano they did not like each other in real life. Really,

893
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:59,039
they did not get along very well. And in fact,

894
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:01,239
they they would ease each other and do pranks to

895
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,320
each other that kind of pissed each other off.

896
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: And guess what, it shows, well, like they have that

897
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,599
kind of brotherly hate in the movie. Huh. But I

898
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:11,679
thought they it was just played very well. Like there,

899
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,000
their hateful chemistry was good, but it was just real.

900
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:18,039
Apparently it was real life, right yep. Then you also

901
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:22,519
have the lovely Anne Ramsey. This is the third movie

902
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:24,440
that we have covered with Anne Ramsey. I don't know

903
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,639
how many actors have gotten three movies, but Anne Ramsey

904
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,599
was in any which way you can as in The

905
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,719
Little the Little Love Nest with her with her real husband,

906
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,039
that's it. And she was also with her real husband

907
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,800
in Scrooge, where she had the kind of small part

908
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,920
as one of the homeless people in there. That's right,

909
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,320
and I would love to cover throw Mama from the

910
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,000
train at that point. Well, we'll get there. He yeah. Yeah.

911
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,960
By the way, I didn't know this. She obviously in

912
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:59,760
any which way you can. She speaks clearly. In goonies,

913
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:03,559
it's slightly less clear, and by the time you get

914
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:08,559
to throw Mama from the train, it's almost unintelligent. Right,

915
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:15,039
the night was selfish. So she had a sophageal cancer.

916
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,159
Oh no, and so they had to remove part of

917
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,760
her tongue and like a portion of her jaw. I guess,

918
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,719
just to get in there to get it. And so

919
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,280
that's what caused your speech impediment. But she won, She

920
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,079
won the Saturn Award and was nominated for Best Supporting

921
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:33,400
Actress for Throw Mama from the Train for an Academy Award,

922
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:34,760
and then.

923
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: Just to kind of throw a bone to her, Mary

924
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:43,119
Ellen Traynor, we've talked about her multiple times. Yeah, she

925
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:47,719
is the Walsh Missus Walsh, the mom. Yeah, the mom

926
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,960
that keeps all the drugs in the attic separated.

927
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,159
Speaker 1: You know.

928
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: She was the psychiatrist in the Lethal Weapon movies.

929
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,039
Speaker 1: Yes, and she was. She's been in a bunch of

930
00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:01,280
Dick Donner movies, but also several Robert Zamechis movies because

931
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:04,800
she married. Yeah, she passed away a couple of years,

932
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,119
a few years ago, but it's too bad. Ye.

933
00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: I did want to mention Loupe Anto Verros, the maid

934
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,519
she plays Rosalita. Yes, she speaks great Spanish, but she

935
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:16,800
also speaks perfect English.

936
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw the interview where she was speaking English.

937
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,039
I'm like, whoa, it's not what I was expecting. And

938
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:26,719
she actually helped Corey Feldman like phonetically say the words nice.

939
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,679
So pretty cool. Yeah, okay, that's all I've got on

940
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,800
on CASTINGGUNI So we also have casting four Junes in

941
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:46,639
the Temple of Doom speaking of coaching somebody through their

942
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,519
line so that they get them phonetically correct. Yeah, I

943
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:52,639
don't know who the actor is who played the old

944
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,480
Indian kind of guru in Temple of Doom, but he

945
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:01,519
did not speak English. And his name is Dr Nana Yakara.

946
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,239
It's easy for you to say, Nana not gonna work

947
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,360
here anymore, that's for sure. The whole country. So, so

948
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:15,559
he couldn't speak English, so Spielberg would literally as they're filming,

949
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:18,320
feed him the line like they'd go over it of course,

950
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,559
and he's like, this is the line. He'd repeat it

951
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:23,519
like okay, even as the hand motion where it's like

952
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,199
darkness over the whole country and then you know, yeah,

953
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,199
the actor would do it. But he did not speak English,

954
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,239
which I always thought to myself. He sure does pause

955
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,280
a lot in between what he has to say. Well, yeah,

956
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,480
that's because Spielberg was giving him the next line. Yeah, yeah,

957
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:40,719
I saw.

958
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: Just on a side note, I saw somebody who traveled

959
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,519
to Sri Lanka.

960
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Yea.

961
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,639
Speaker 2: By the way, this movie was shot in Sri Lanka,

962
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,400
not India.

963
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,639
Speaker 1: India was not happy with how the Indians were portrayed,

964
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,320
so shot in Sri Lanka. Yeah, with elephants.

965
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: And you remember the last time we talked about elephants in.

966
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: Sri Lanka was it a music video? It was, okay,

967
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:03,079
it was when we talked about the Save a Prayer

968
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,400
video on our Duranduran Rio episode. Ah, that's right.

969
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: They flew to Sri Lanka to shot. They shot Save

970
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,239
a Prayer and Hungry like the wolfing.

971
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Simon Leabaughn is wearing the Indiana hat basically in

972
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,159
that movie. It's a total takeoff of Indiana Jones and

973
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:21,599
I think that they gave him the hat though, because

974
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:23,159
he had just dyed his hair. Is that right? He

975
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,039
dyed his hair and it didn't look it. Our music

976
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:27,079
episodes rock.

977
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,599
Speaker 2: Go check out our Duranduran Rio episode tracked by Tragon.

978
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I wanted to talk to you about that.

979
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: Obviously. Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones and may.

980
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Forever be Indiana Jones, even though I don't agree with that,

981
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,760
but always in our hearts. Yeah yeah, I mean he's

982
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,280
the guy who made them the mold right right. He

983
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,840
gets jacked in this movie. Yeah, he looks. I'm one

984
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,239
of these guys who will talk about what I think

985
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,360
overall about the story of Temple and Doom. Huh.

986
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: But as far as the Indiana Jones character, he is

987
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,760
a badass in this He's tough and he's fit, he's muscled,

988
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,199
and he's cool and he's you know, one minute he's

989
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,320
James Bond, the next minute he's cracking whips. And so anyway,

990
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:13,599
Harrison Ford knocks out.

991
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: Of the park absolutely Okay.

992
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:18,599
Speaker 2: For the role of Willie Scott, Kate Capshaw is the

993
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:19,800
one who got the part.

994
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: Were your Jewels to bed Princess? Yeah? And nothing else

995
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,079
shock him. Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist.

996
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you who was up for that part,

997
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,760
and then we'll talk about what we think about Kate Capshaw.

998
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: Well, first we need to note that it was supposed

999
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,719
to be Mary and Ravenwood. Initially that was the female

1000
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:48,280
lead in this one. They even thought about bringing in

1001
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,559
dad what was his name? Abner Ravenwood is a potential character,

1002
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:56,880
but they eventually scraped that. I don't really understand that,

1003
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,440
but yeah, well, her character, the character of Willie Scott,

1004
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:09,400
is not Marian Ray's anti. It is the opposite. Yes, yeah, screaming,

1005
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:12,480
pampered you know, city girl. Yeah, and I'm okay with that.

1006
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:13,199
I'm okay with that.

1007
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: I wanted Abner, especially in Last Crusade, as the guy

1008
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,440
who gives him his hat, like I thought. They talked

1009
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,559
about making Abner that guy, and I thought the point

1010
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:23,400
that would have been really cool.

1011
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,119
Speaker 1: It would have been cool.

1012
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 2: But Kate Capshaw gets the role as Willie Scott. Here

1013
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,599
are two names that were up for that role that

1014
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,679
were close, okay, and no one of them okay?

1015
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,679
Speaker 1: Which one do you know? I know? Sharon Stone was.

1016
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,679
Speaker 2: Sharon Stone almost got that part. I could see that

1017
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,039
she was, I mean smoldering.

1018
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: In the mid eighties.

1019
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:46,079
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, and I think she had just done

1020
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:49,000
sort of an Indiana Jones like King Solomon's Minds type

1021
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:49,320
of movie.

1022
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: Was she in that? Yeah, Oh it's terrible. My dad

1023
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,159
maybe watched that. It was awful. Well, I think that

1024
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,599
was her right until she landed in Police Academy Part

1025
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,360
seventeen or whatever. So okay, yeah, but also up for

1026
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,639
that role was Marky post Oh from Night Court. From

1027
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:12,079
Night Court, Yeah, underrated babe smoking yeah, yeah, we had

1028
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,840
to resort to the phones. It's Christine, Christine, that's it. Yeah,

1029
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,199
So she would have been good in this role. I

1030
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,760
think as well.

1031
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: She's she's funny.

1032
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I could see her playing this part for sure.

1033
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,320
And we talked about her in our There's Something About

1034
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,440
Mary episode because she is the perfect person to play

1035
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,960
Cameron Diez's mom in the in the seventies and eighties.

1036
00:56:33,159 --> 00:56:33,800
We forgot about that.

1037
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,079
Speaker 2: Go back and check out our Something about Mary Versus

1038
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,199
Dumb and Dumber episode. Yeah, okay, but they Spielberg really

1039
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:44,480
likes this girl named Kate Capshaw.

1040
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:49,159
Speaker 1: Now he's also getting divorced from his own wife.

1041
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we watched the behind the scenes, and it

1042
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:58,679
looks like there is flirtation going on, and it's I mean,

1043
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,719
hiring your girlfriend is not not always the thing.

1044
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: She was his girlfriend when they hired her. But I

1045
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,679
bet he was like, I want that. I like her. Yeah,

1046
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,679
but here's the here's the story. I heard him tell

1047
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,119
the story.

1048
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,679
Speaker 2: So Spilwork says, I really like this girl. I want

1049
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:16,079
to see what Harrison Ford thinks. He brought the tape

1050
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:18,639
of the audition to Harrison Ford, went over to his house,

1051
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,599
showed Harrison Ford, and Harrison Ford said, that's your girl,

1052
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,920
that one right there. I don't need to see anything else.

1053
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,880
That's her nice. So when you're kind of kind of

1054
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,800
sweet on the girl and Harrison Ford loves her, that's

1055
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,159
a slam dog right.

1056
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think she does. She's she does the

1057
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,320
singing number. She she looks incredible. She can sing and dance.

1058
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:44,840
We had the we had a whole we had a

1059
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,760
whole text thread about her. Marian and who is the

1060
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,400
girl from Most Crusade elsa else on the who would

1061
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:55,960
you kill? Who would you? Who would you marry? I

1062
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,519
don't remember who put what, but the only right answer

1063
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,440
to that is you kill Willie you marry Marian and

1064
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:09,239
you fls. Somebody brought up something about a Nazi sympathizer,

1065
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,800
and I was like, have you seen her?

1066
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right, all right, So we've already

1067
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,280
talked about Keihug Won.

1068
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1069
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: Then you've got this guy named Amrish Puri who plays

1070
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Mola Ram. Okay, that dude was terrifying.

1071
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:31,639
Speaker 1: You don't believe me, right? Yeah? He was an Indian

1072
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:37,199
actor and for this role shaved his head, yes, and

1073
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:43,320
that painted it read And that guy was like Darth

1074
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,840
Vader on screen. He's a good bad guy right yea.

1075
00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:48,239
Speaker 2: And in fact, because of this role, he goes on

1076
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,320
to play all kinds of villains like in all the

1077
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,199
Bollywood stuff.

1078
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, no, that's great. The guy was awesome. Yep.

1079
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: Okay, quickly, the Roshan Seth plays Chatterlall he's the.

1080
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Guy who plays the Prime Minister. Okay, yeah, I saw

1081
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:03,960
an interview with him. He had gone back to India.

1082
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:07,039
Speaker 2: He had worked in America, wanted to do American movies,

1083
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,639
didn't really have much luck, goes back to India, gets

1084
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:12,360
hired to be in the movie Gandhi.

1085
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:16,519
Speaker 1: Richard Attenborough, Yes, the guy from Jurassic Park. Yeah, go

1086
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:20,840
check out our Jaws Versus Jurassic Park from season one. Yes, okay.

1087
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: Phillip Stone plays the British the British Indian Army captain.

1088
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,719
Speaker 1: The guy who who you're you're wondering why he's there

1089
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,920
at dinner until the very end of the movie when

1090
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,960
he comes and is the DOSEX machina and saves everybody, right,

1091
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:41,880
the White Savior, right exactly. Yeah, probably why the Indians

1092
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,679
were so upset. I mean, it's part of it, right. Yeah.

1093
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:48,280
So he plays you know, you recognize him from anything?

1094
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:52,039
Was he in one of the Star Wars movies? He

1095
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:56,360
was in Flash Gordon close? Oh okay, Oh, don't remember

1096
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,159
him for Flash Gordon. Okay, go ahead.

1097
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: He was in Flash Gordon and he played mister Grady

1098
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:08,400
from The Shining Oh yes, yes, yes, I do remember that.

1099
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. I would discipline them. Huh. Yeah, that's great.

1100
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,239
I thought that was pretty cool. Okay.

1101
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:17,239
Speaker 2: I got one more and this guy I just wanted

1102
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,920
to bring to your attention. Roy Chow plays Lauche.

1103
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: Nice Try Louche, the.

1104
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Chinese crime boss that's after Narachi.

1105
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:36,599
Speaker 1: At the very.

1106
01:00:36,519 --> 01:00:38,679
Speaker 2: Beginning of Indiana, Jonson's Temple of Doom.

1107
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Now this guy plays an excellent bad guy,

1108
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:48,400
the doctor Jones to the poison you just drink right, right.

1109
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: And he plays this great, over the top bad guy.

1110
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:57,440
This guy is a devout Christian and dedicated his life

1111
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,239
to spreading Christianity throughout Hollywood.

1112
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:01,719
Speaker 1: Wow.

1113
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:07,079
Speaker 2: Born in Shanghai, moved to the States and was just

1114
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:08,119
a very religious guy.

1115
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: Awesome, that's great. Okay, I almost forgot.

1116
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: There's two other notes I want to give you on

1117
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:13,079
the casting.

1118
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.

1119
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:17,639
Speaker 2: Dan Ackroyd makes an uncredited appearance.

1120
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: So bizarre, right, terrible English accent. I mean it's Jones weird.

1121
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: Right, he worked with Spielberg in nineteen forty one.

1122
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: Huh, but what's he doing here? It just shows up

1123
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,159
out of nowhere. It's weird, right, It's really weird.

1124
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Dan Ackroyd has he's the guy who gets him on

1125
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,159
the airplane, right, Okay, I.

1126
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:39,519
Speaker 1: Mean Ackroyd he would have been filming spies like us

1127
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,320
at this time when he spies like us came out

1128
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:47,199
of me, you know, Doctor Detroit at least. And then

1129
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:53,079
you have Pat Roach. Yeah. So if for the listeners

1130
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:56,880
who don't know Pat Roach, you will know as the

1131
01:01:57,239 --> 01:02:00,920
bald Nazi soldier who Harrison four gets in a fight

1132
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:05,559
with on the airstrip and is ultimately chopped to bits

1133
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:10,639
by the propeller. And then pat Roach is the giant

1134
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,840
guy who's at one of the thuggy slave masters who

1135
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,360
Harrison Ford gets in a fight with who has well

1136
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,679
I said to you, I was like, I'm imagining the

1137
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,360
conversation where Steven Spielberg says, hey, Harrison, we'd love for

1138
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,079
you to play Indiana Jones again, and Harrison's response is great,

1139
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:35,719
can I kick pat Roaches again? Steven Spielberg is like yes,

1140
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,000
and Harrison Ford says, can his death be any more

1141
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:43,199
gruesome than it was in Raiders of Lost arc also yes,

1142
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,679
Like we have a cutaway at least on Ragers the

1143
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,719
Lost Art, but on Temple of Doom you see him

1144
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:56,760
getting ground up with the rocks and the giant rock crusher.

1145
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,199
Oh my gosh, it right of it.

1146
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,119
Speaker 2: By the way, that Roach Harrison Ford also kicked pat

1147
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:07,440
Roaches in Marion's bar in Nepaul.

1148
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was the other guy. Yeah, that's right.

1149
01:03:11,239 --> 01:03:16,760
So okay, okay, wait, there's there's two not necessarily actors,

1150
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,679
but two people. So Harrison Ford had a severe spinal

1151
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,360
disc herniation during the fight scene in the bedroom, the

1152
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,559
one that ends with his guys. The strongest ceiling fan

1153
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:32,119
a strong exactly what I thought. I was like, they

1154
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,880
don't make ceiling fans that strong. That thing would have

1155
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,360
yanked right out of the seil. I've knocked a ceiling

1156
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,639
fan out with a wolf of ball, right, but it

1157
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,480
manages to hang this guy. But I guess he did

1158
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:46,360
a sumrsault during the scene and had a major back

1159
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,719
injury from it. Huh, so bad that they literally brought

1160
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,960
a hospital bed to the set. And in between scenes,

1161
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,480
I mean there's they don't stop shooting, and so in

1162
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:59,280
between scenes Harrison Ford is laying down and after a

1163
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,360
few days finally like geez, we got to send him

1164
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,519
to the hospital. Uh huh. So the the stunt double

1165
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:09,920
of all stunt doubles, Vic Armstrong, who we've talked about

1166
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,920
multiple times. He does a bunch of stand in work

1167
01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:16,639
for and stunt work for Harrison Ford. But what I

1168
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:20,280
thought was crazy is the lady who's the stunt double

1169
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:27,039
for Willie is Wendy Leach, vic Armstrong's wife. Really, that's great.

1170
01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:27,400
I love it.

1171
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,039
Speaker 2: I love it all right as we put Captro on

1172
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,079
this episode. Yeah, I got a funny story to tell you,

1173
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:34,000
and we'll we'll take it.

1174
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: The next week. Is this is this the translation of

1175
01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:39,679
what is said when we were on top of or

1176
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,039
on the ridge. Now, before you get into it, you

1177
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:49,440
sent me a diagram that somebody had done of the

1178
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:53,159
possibility of surviving the fall and the bridge fall where

1179
01:04:53,159 --> 01:04:55,559
he cuts the bridge. Yeah, and so like they were

1180
01:04:55,599 --> 01:04:58,119
talking about like MIT students or something, right, Yeah, yeah,

1181
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,920
they did all this trigonometry and so so in reality,

1182
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,519
what's the chances that that you're going to survive? Who's

1183
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:08,360
going to survive? Almost zero? Almost zero that anybody when you.

1184
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,519
Speaker 2: Cut the bridge, the pendulum, like the momentum of the

1185
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,880
swinging bridge would almost certainly kill everybody on the bridge

1186
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,239
just when you smack into the when you smack into

1187
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,639
those rocks, and at the very least multiple.

1188
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: Broken bones and contusions. Okay, right, Okay, So.

1189
01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: Basically it was a MythBuster that was busted essentially.

1190
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,639
Speaker 1: Okay, shocker. Right, So we've just come from, I mean

1191
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,119
literally just came from a scene where number one, they

1192
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,199
dodge the water that's coming at them by going down

1193
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,039
an alternate tunnel. Somehow the water doesn't also go down

1194
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:49,519
that tunnel. It's like the water loses the chase. Well,

1195
01:05:49,639 --> 01:05:53,199
what then when they come out the door from the

1196
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,280
water that does eventually catch up with them again, we

1197
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,960
have pieces of wood driving through solid rock like a

1198
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:05,559
spear that doesn't even like what So there's all kinds

1199
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:08,000
of stuff in both of the Goonies and Temple of

1200
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:10,880
Doom that you're just like, Okay, that's I'm gonna eat

1201
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,360
some more popcorn because this is ridiculous. But it's so

1202
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,400
much fun. It's ridiculous, it's so much fun to keep

1203
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,400
on going right right, But at the before the scene

1204
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,519
where they they fall and would almost certainly have died,

1205
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,000
before the scene where the guys who do die are

1206
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,280
eaten by alligators even though they should be crocodiles because

1207
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,480
they filmed it in Florida instead of Sri Lanka. That's

1208
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:35,800
right before that, he says to short round read this here, yes,

1209
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:41,360
cho chi laotu sansa, yeah, he's so.

1210
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,639
Speaker 2: This climactic moment in the movie Indiana, Jones are being

1211
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:49,480
chased on both sides by thuggy guards. He's got a machete,

1212
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,039
no gun, no whip, and he looks Shorty and Willy

1213
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:54,119
are both on the bridge.

1214
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: It's a sword, by the way. It is a sword

1215
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,480
because remember he got it from the guys who were

1216
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:00,920
sword fighting where he didn't have his on that's right. This,

1217
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:04,000
by the way, is a great example of how Steven

1218
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,039
Spielberg walked that perfect tightrope of not giving us an

1219
01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:12,920
identical movie but throwing back to the other movie enough

1220
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:15,800
that we were like, yes, it's familiar and so yeah.

1221
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,519
And he didn't have his gun to shoot the two

1222
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:20,039
swordsmen like he did, and he was gonna.

1223
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:22,599
Speaker 2: Start casually pull it out, blow those guys away, but oops,

1224
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:23,920
will he drop my gun.

1225
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: And act one? Right? Right? So he raises this the

1226
01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:29,880
sword over his head. You can tell, okay, is it left?

1227
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,159
Is it right? Is left? Is right?

1228
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: No, it's going to be the bridge right right, And

1229
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,559
he makes this real loud pronouncement. He's really articulate. When

1230
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:41,159
you tell a short round, Hey, shorty, you know.

1231
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:56,199
Speaker 1: Shorty, chauchi what is it? Chau chi? Lautsu sansa right,

1232
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,800
And so short round goes, hold on, lady, We're gonna

1233
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,440
go for a ride, right right.

1234
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: So I've got a strong Chinese contingency at my church,

1235
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:09,119
and I've got some friends and I'm like, hey, listen,

1236
01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:10,800
I'm going deep on the Shirley podcast.

1237
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out.

1238
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: Obviously, he's telling him, hang on, I'm cutting the bridge,

1239
01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:18,880
get ready for this, blah blah blah. Right, Okay, So

1240
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,560
I'm like, but I want to know exactly what is

1241
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:22,079
being said.

1242
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: So I said it to my friend who is from China,

1243
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:28,600
and I'm like, her name is Amy, and I said, Amy,

1244
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,359
what is he saying here? Right? And so I'm waiting

1245
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,359
with baited breath.

1246
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: As I see the little dots on my iPhone.

1247
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: She goes.

1248
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: Me and my husband have watched this multiple times. We

1249
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,680
don't understand that.

1250
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,119
Speaker 1: She goes.

1251
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: We speak Cantonese, could be Mandarin, but basically we don't know.

1252
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that is leaddown. And you had me

1253
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,760
all excited. I thought you were going to tell me

1254
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,640
this thing, and you give me that.

1255
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: That's what I got after I was waiting baited breath.

1256
01:09:02,199 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: All right, So we got it. Folks, if you know Mandarin,

1257
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,439
if you're a Shiry fan and you know Mandarin or

1258
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,600
any of the other Chinese dialects, yes, what does he say? What?

1259
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,600
What is the instruction. My guess is it's kind of

1260
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,319
like Lionel Richie and he just made some African sound

1261
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:25,199
and stuff up jumbo. Okay, guys, well that that does

1262
01:09:25,239 --> 01:09:29,479
it for the first part of our comparison of Goonies

1263
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,720
versus Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom. Come back

1264
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,319
next week. We are going to talk about soundtracks. We're

1265
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,399
going to talk about all of the fun tidbits involved

1266
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,279
with the production, and then ultimately we're going to give

1267
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:44,359
our final judgment as to which of these two movies

1268
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,720
is the best Treasure Hunting of eighty four and eighty five.

1269
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,640
So come back and join us.

1270
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: Then, bye, guys, thanks a lot. All right, do you

1271
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:03,760
out to start season six? Do you have the treasure map?

1272
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,079
Speaker 1: Dang right, I have the Treasure's Map. Do you have

1273
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:11,479
the stones? You're dang right, I got the stones. Okay,

1274
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,960
let's do that again. That's good. That's good, you did perfect.

1275
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,039
Speaker 2: And then finally the one guy, actually there's two guys

1276
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:23,640
I want to bring up to you. Okay, Philip Stone, Milo,

1277
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,399
go sit down, lay down.

1278
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: Lay down in your bed. It's Felix, get in your bed.

1279
01:10:34,319 --> 01:10:38,640
Thank you. All right, this should be in an outa

1280
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,359
god licking everything,