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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of your hosts, Delia here with my real tight homegirl

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<v Speaker 1>and my daughter a little everybody. We are here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk the season premiere. Oh my got of season nine

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<v Speaker 1>oo La La of Sister Wives. So excited you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop us if you tried. If there was no internet,

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<v Speaker 1>if there was no camera, we would still be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be drinking and we would be screaming into

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<v Speaker 1>the void about Cody Brown, who is just getting balder

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<v Speaker 1>and balder. Girl. I mean, did you see him at

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<v Speaker 1>the black Jiant table with his curls falling in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his face and all of these acres and acres

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<v Speaker 1>of skin on his head.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what Robin gets to fuck every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy your life, beb girl. Well, before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have to issue a disclaimer. Please, how'd your

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<v Speaker 1>wife and hyda kids? This is a politically incorrect podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We say a lot of bad words, we have stupid opinions,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're stubborn about it. Yeah. So with your said ay,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to find yourself another's bibe. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready to party and talk about some Mormonism, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to this stumpster.

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<v Speaker 2>Smothered Girl in October, and that shit is crazy, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are wrapping up the entire fourth season of Couple's Therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've been having so much fun with Couples Therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so smart.

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<v Speaker 1>When I talk about psychology. So we're having a gay

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<v Speaker 1>because everything you do helps us to attract raccoons into

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<v Speaker 1>the dumpster. And so thank you Inidviann, thank you all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into the episode, I did have like

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<v Speaker 1>a little tidbit of something I had heard about from

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<v Speaker 1>the Sister Wags universe, which concerns Janelle, my favorite. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite. Apparently she put up Garrison's town home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sale. I saw that. I guess it's for sale

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<v Speaker 1>for like four hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in Flagstaff.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going up for I guess one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>more than he paid for it, and so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>if it sells. I hope that it does. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the last little bit of it for

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<v Speaker 1>her to resolve before she can maybe fully be in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. I don't know, probably, but I hope she

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<v Speaker 1>gets the proceeds of that sale. Me too. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but being a despicable raccoon and wandering to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>is Cody going to get any of that money? Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>He might, He might be fighting for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see Cody Brown fighting for it. I really could.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just can't imagine that Garrison, who was in

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<v Speaker 1>the military, wouldn't have been exceedingly crystal clear about who

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<v Speaker 1>his beneficiaries were. Yeah, but then, like just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years previous, he had an okay relationship with Cody.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I don't know girl yet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not for us to speculate bo we.

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<v Speaker 2>Will no, Yeah, and we might find out about it

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we are still in twenty twenty two for

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<v Speaker 1>season nineteen. And you know why he started. We say

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time. I mean, it's not like we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't all cried about it before, but it's really exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually bullshit. In my opinion, I think it's stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I understand being like, you know, a year behind,

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<v Speaker 2>like nine months behind. Sure, totally understandable. You got a

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<v Speaker 2>film or whatever, two whole years though, Like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>we seeing Christine date David? Why are we seeing Michelsey

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<v Speaker 2>with her big ass pregnant belly.

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<v Speaker 1>In her interstitials in her talking head. She's got this

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<v Speaker 1>stupid pillow acting as if she's still pregnant even though

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<v Speaker 1>she's I don't know, one hundred pounds less now than

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<v Speaker 1>she was back then. What the fuck? It's like such

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<v Speaker 1>a big middle finger to the entire audience because we

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on, but they won't, like just do

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing. No, they won't show us what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on now now. They did address at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode the tragic loss of Garrison. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had heard, and I think some of you have as well,

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<v Speaker 1>that they are going to, I think, show the aftermath

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened with Garrison at the end of this season. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was wondering to myself self. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that we're going to bring the whole timeline for

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<v Speaker 1>the show up into twenty twenty four by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this season, please? But you know what, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to I don't think so, because they showed us

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Asque wedding special of Christine. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going all the way back to the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the courtship. I'm like why, I don't understand why.

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<v Speaker 2>Like do people want to see this? Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see it, don't I don't care. I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to be a little bit more present, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mad at Cody Brown for how he's acting right

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<v Speaker 2>in these interstitials, but like, this is twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>Cody Brown that we're seeing, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>This is no, it's not this is a more recent

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Brown, because it's a more recent Mary. Mary is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot thinner. She lost weight within the last six months,

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<v Speaker 1>so her on the Couch interviews are probably within the

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<v Speaker 1>last three months, which makes me think that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the couch interviews with Cody and also Janelle are also

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<v Speaker 1>more recent. That's my thought. I don't know about all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, see some of them look a little recycled.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of them I do think, based on the curling,

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<v Speaker 1>based on the balding, and also frankly, based on his attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>they do seem to be a bit more recent. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just my opinion. What do y'all think? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought his attitude was still season eighteen Cody Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll still because.

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<v Speaker 1>She was crying a little bit and he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about his vision that is no more. He was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how he doesn't have faith and he praised different

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I don't know. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>some of these interstitials are a bit more modern twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>But then that's like the other thing that's stupid is like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna film modern interstitials, why are we reacting

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<v Speaker 2>to old footage? Then? Like, why can't we have the

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<v Speaker 2>current footage match with the current interstitials?

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<v Speaker 1>Makes no sense? Well, like even in this episode, Mary says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, last week we had the final conversation Cody

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<v Speaker 1>and I and they show her at the picnic bench

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<v Speaker 1>on Coyote Pass having the conversation. At least, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty or seventy pounds heavier than one week later, right

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<v Speaker 1>now on the couch, No like that's what they're treating us,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're dumb. Yeah, and I hate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really stupid because if you know, the fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody is picking apart every single minute part of footage,

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<v Speaker 2>So like, come on, like, why.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't we just catchall We'll but be here now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you go, there you are, and right now you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a dumpster. Bit I'm here, honey s watching season nineteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what we got, so yeah, let's celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>it and let's get into it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We start off with Robin and Cody at Coyote Pass,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was kind of interesting because they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what the fuck to do with all

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<v Speaker 2>this land, and Cody wants to sell it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, this place is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives me bad memories, makes me angry, and Robin's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, put the dream. I missed the family who of

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<v Speaker 1>the dream. Every night, before I lay my head on

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<v Speaker 1>my pillow, I envision my house right over there, and

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<v Speaker 1>Janelle's house right over there, and Mary's then I guess Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's still trying to get us to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>she believes in the dream. And I don't think she does,

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<v Speaker 1>no way. She also talks about the loan. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>catch that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she did kind of mention that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. She says if they don't pay it off by

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<v Speaker 1>a specific date, which I want to say, was that

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<v Speaker 1>my years are blending together. I think that was this

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<v Speaker 1>summer right that they paid it off or was it

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<v Speaker 1>last summer? Did they pay it off entirely? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>all paid it off. I think maybe it was last summer,

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<v Speaker 1>but they paid it off, so this was filmed right

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<v Speaker 1>before that. But she calls their contract stupid. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was interesting owner financing. This developer or this

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<v Speaker 1>owner has agreed to sell you these parcels of land,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're supposed to make payments. I would presume toward

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<v Speaker 1>the principle and ultimately pay it off by a certain date.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the agreement. But it's stupid to you because

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<v Speaker 1>you're stupid and you don't know what creative financing is,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've never had to get your own mortgage. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you did season four. But yeah, but she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's silly because I'm like every single

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<v Speaker 2>financing thing that they have done. The Brown family has

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<v Speaker 2>done on TV has been stupid. Yeah, Like every decision

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<v Speaker 2>they've made has been dumb. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call Coote Pass stupid because nobody else is paying for

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<v Speaker 2>it and now you and Cody have to deal with it,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry to have luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm wondering what Janelle's position is at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm presuming we're late twenty twenty two, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. She hasn't made the decision to buy the

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<v Speaker 1>plot of land in North Carolina yet, so I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if she's wondering to herself whether she wants to build

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like she's going back and forth because later

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode, they talk about getting property up in Montana,

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<v Speaker 2>so and I don't know if Janelle's like a part

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<v Speaker 2>of that, Like I know Maddie is talking about building

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<v Speaker 2>property up in Montana. So it just seems like Janelle's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going with the flow and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>shit out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be nice to see more conversation about Coyote Pass though,

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<v Speaker 2>and like the money and luring up, I know she's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna do it, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we do get to flash on over to Janelle

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<v Speaker 1>all talking about how she hasn't really spoken to Cody

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<v Speaker 1>in a very long time. She doesn't know really what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Coyote Pass. We also hear from Christine,

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<v Speaker 1>who's just so happy to be single. She's in her

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<v Speaker 1>single era, yeah, and she doesn't give a shit. And

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<v Speaker 1>she talks about how she was able to sell her

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<v Speaker 1>home and flag Staff and take the full entire proceeds

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<v Speaker 1>of that sale and move to Utah, And then we

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<v Speaker 1>skip on over to Cody, who's a bit bitter about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. The family helped her buy that house and

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<v Speaker 1>flag Staff and then she just sold it and took

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<v Speaker 2>Which is so wild to me. I'm like, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean by the family? You and Robin didn't do shit, boyo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and everybody paid for your property too. So does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean if you're butt hurt about Christine, that they

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<v Speaker 1>with Robin that they put into what at that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because if they are but hurt, then he would

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<v Speaker 2>say they're just bitter towards him and they're making him

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<v Speaker 2>to be the villain, because Cody Brown is the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>victim here, right, he is the one that has been

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<v Speaker 2>fucked over the most. Okay, not Christine natchanew, not Mary

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<v Speaker 2>Cody Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he has the audacity, excuse me, the mandacity

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<v Speaker 1>to say something like what did I do? What did

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<v Speaker 1>I do wrong? As if it's not cataloged episode after episode,

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<v Speaker 1>season after season, about how you have treated your family,

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<v Speaker 1>your children, and your wives. It's wild. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>not know what you may or may not have contributed

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<v Speaker 1>to the demise of these relationships? Denial?

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<v Speaker 2>He's crazy, totally in denial, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's de Lulu Yep, he's crazy. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after the whole Coyote pass thing, then we

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<v Speaker 2>have Michelt with her sprinkle. Yeah for her twins that

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<v Speaker 2>are already born.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're two years old, they born. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Mchelty's big and pregnant. Yes, she has too

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<v Speaker 2>many tacos.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Christine's host in this sprinkle. It's some like Gambling Vegas, black.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, Dublin down. Something's going on. But the big news

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<v Speaker 1>is that Michelt wants Cody and Robin there, and she

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<v Speaker 1>also wants Christine there, and she just wants her adult

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<v Speaker 1>parents to get a grip and get along. That's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fair, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing a lot of criticism of Michelty online,

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh my god, how dare she do that

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<v Speaker 2>to Christine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, she's still a child though, yeah, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>having twins. Yeah, she wants her father to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. And even though we hate Cody, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have every right to, Michelty doesn't feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same way at this time exactly. So she wants Robin there,

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants Cody there. Yeah, And I think that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But they're nervous, Sonny, Oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, did you see Robin just standing in the doorway.

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<v Speaker 1>So awkward, Turtle just smiling and so pretending to blend in.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, woman, you look really unhappy, really unsettled,

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<v Speaker 1>And I love it. And there's Christine at the blackjack table,

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<v Speaker 1>just glowing. She's talking with everybody because she's a social butterfly.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robin could never, oh never at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Robin's also walking around with like weird little weights

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<v Speaker 2>in her hands the whole entire time. Really, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed it on Reddit. Somebody was pointing it out, like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is she holding weights like little three pound weights?

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I missed that entirely. Yeah, it was super bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Cody's just sitting there stare and brooding at everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and Christine's like, I'm not gonna say hi to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And Robin says to the camera, the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Christine was when she told me she did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to see me, she did not want a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with me or my children anymore, which never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Was never said, And we have rolled back the footage

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<v Speaker 1>countless times. I do believe you've seen it by now, Robin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Christine never said that she just needed some space, she

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<v Speaker 1>just needed some time. But she's with this victim narrative

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, lady, get over and it drives

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<v Speaker 1>me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the bizarre that she's still putting this out. But

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<v Speaker 2>like her and Cody are perfect for each other because

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<v Speaker 2>they're both acting like victims. They both act like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>hates them because they do. Everybody does hate you. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>you could make this better. You guys have all the

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<v Speaker 2>power to make it better, but you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so Robin's like, well, she didn't want any

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with me, so I'm just gonna leave her alone

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<v Speaker 1>and she can be over in that corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>house and I'm not gonna bugger. Okay, No, you're scared. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go up and just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take the higher road and say hey, Christine, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. Nice to see you. And that's all we

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<v Speaker 1>have to do as adults. It's not a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, y'all are old, Like, why can't act like

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<v Speaker 2>big age? Why do we have to act like we're

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<v Speaker 2>in high school? Acting all immature like this?

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Christine is acting little petty, being like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be friendly, But that's fine in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, did you notice when Cody walked in, he'd belined

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<v Speaker 1>toward Micheltie's daughter and truly was sitting like right next

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<v Speaker 1>to the baby, and he said hi to the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He played with the baby's toy and at some point

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<v Speaker 1>truly said hi dad, and he said oh hi, truly,

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<v Speaker 1>like completely ignored.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, truly, absolutely wild to me that he thinks that

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<v Speaker 2>he did nothing wrong when he acts like this with

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<v Speaker 2>his kids, Like poor Truly truly was born on this show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to see the footage of this. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to see her grow up without a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That sucks. And she didn't ask to be born into

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<v Speaker 1>this crasy. She did Mormon family and he didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>notice her, leading me to believe he's really not that

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<v Speaker 1>fond of her. And another child that I saw at

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<v Speaker 1>the Sprinkle that was kind of shying away from Cody

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<v Speaker 1>was Isabelle. She was hanging out a lot with Christine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wondering what that relationship is like because

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<v Speaker 1>last season, over Christmas, remember Isabelle went and visited and

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<v Speaker 1>it was super awkward. And then that got me thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>bitch about the sale of Cody and Robin's home and

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<v Speaker 1>all of their multi thousand dollars nick knacks and things

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<v Speaker 1>that are strewn around that home, and how Christine had

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<v Speaker 1>to rustle up the money for Isabelle's scoliosis surgery, and

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<v Speaker 1>how I believe correct me if I'm wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I am I don't think Cody put anything toward

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<v Speaker 1>that given the pain that Isabelle was in four years,

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<v Speaker 1>asking for some kind of surgical intervention for years, but

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<v Speaker 1>remember they kept making her do exercises and do all

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<v Speaker 1>of this shit because they wanted to put that surgery off.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when she finally got it, he didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>cut of COVID. I can't be gone for longer than

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<v Speaker 1>three nights because if Robin and I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>paid any money into it. Meanwhile he's siphoning, allegedly siphoning

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<v Speaker 1>all of the cash out of the Brown LLC and

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<v Speaker 1>buying these ugly ass paintings and purple linens and rugs

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<v Speaker 1>and crystal towers and bears that are hugging and phoenixes rising,

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<v Speaker 1>and poor Isabelle, and maybe that's why she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out with you at the Sprinkle Cody.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I didn't even think about that, But you're so right,

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<v Speaker 2>because if I was her, and I have been her

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<v Speaker 2>with my own dad and I saw that shit, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be so bitter. I'm still bitter over my own stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So poor Isabelle, dude, I doesn't know at this time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she does go and visit so she can see how

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<v Speaker 1>big the house is but she doesn't know the value

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<v Speaker 1>of things. But all of these kids and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these wives now know some of what was in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they packed away most of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>They see some of the wealth that's in that house,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to be asking themselves, well, why was

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<v Speaker 1>my mom living in an RV just trying to cobble

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<v Speaker 1>together a casita? Why was Mary going to live in

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<v Speaker 1>a barn dominium while you guys are over here living

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<v Speaker 1>like kings and queens.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, millions of dollars with all this stuff. Oh, such

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<v Speaker 2>a good point. I wish we could hear more from

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<v Speaker 2>these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I one day we wish that would be so great.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe in twenty twenty nine, maybe maybe it'd season twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing that happened at the Sprinkle

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<v Speaker 2>was Cody and Robin basically saying in their intersticials saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Christine's been bad mouthing me to the kids, and so

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably sour in my relationship with them. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like this again, why are we bringing this up again?

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<v Speaker 2>Christine's not bad mouthing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe she is, but you deserve it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>way he sets it up, though, is he says, I

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<v Speaker 1>see what she's saying in public. Yeah, right, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can only imagine what she's saying to our kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>using this same measure, what the fuck are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>about her in public? That you were not attractive to her,

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<v Speaker 1>that you never loved her, calling her all manner of names,

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<v Speaker 1>disparaging her to her face and to the camera. What

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<v Speaker 1>about you, though, It's like this blind spot that just

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<v Speaker 1>encompasses him and encompasses Robin, and they can see nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing wrong or how they're contributing to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy making.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crazy, or even what he was saying about

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<v Speaker 2>the kids too, you just calling the massholes and narcissists

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<v Speaker 2>and stupid last season, so fuck you dude, yep, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how the wives are talking bad about you publicly

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<v Speaker 2>and to the kids, Like you said, you deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well why do you think that is? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ask yourself the question in therapy, Yeah, to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of it. Your old coot for a

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<v Speaker 1>old balding coop. You can't stand him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the worst. And then we also heard from Robin

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<v Speaker 2>that her and Cody are in a bad place in

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<v Speaker 2>their mirroring.

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<v Speaker 1>Your eyebrows are in a bad place. I know your

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<v Speaker 1>eyebrows are in a bad place, really bad. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to fix them, but they're even darker and

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<v Speaker 1>thicker or more noticeable and you should go like a

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<v Speaker 1>professional brow person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah anyway, sorry, I can't stand her either, No, real

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<v Speaker 2>and triggered. But like, how are we supposed to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys are having a hard time in your marriage?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I give a fuck? Yeah, honestly, I don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a shit unless you're gonna leave him and have a

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<v Speaker 2>tell all book and talk about how she won terrible

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<v Speaker 2>he is. But you won't because you guys are all meat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it at all. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything Robin's unhappy about, it is the loss

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<v Speaker 1>of funds and the streams of income that she previously

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<v Speaker 1>clearly had access to based on Dickensie and Village alone. Yeap,

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<v Speaker 1>she no longer has Christine's money, Mary's money, Janelle's money.

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<v Speaker 1>She no longer can rob the coffers, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>believe she's unhappy about that. And I don't think Cody

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<v Speaker 1>has a plan for their future necessarily. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking last week about like they must they're

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<v Speaker 1>dumb people, but they must have the capacity to see

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<v Speaker 1>that this gravy train is about to end. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>two years, five years, if you're lucky. Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>then what Robin, You don't work, Cody doesn't work, So

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? So maybe she's unhappy about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think she's unhappy in her relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah, that's the dream that she's holding onto, is

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<v Speaker 2>the dream of living a life of luxury on the

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<v Speaker 2>backs of everybody else because she doesn't want to have

419
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<v Speaker 2>to work for it. And that's why when we were

420
00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.279
<v Speaker 2>talking about them selling their house, like I can't see

421
00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.720
<v Speaker 2>them getting a four million dollar home in flack stuff.

422
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.759
<v Speaker 2>There's no way they can fucking afford it. I hope

423
00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:27.839
<v Speaker 2>they end up in a dorm apartment like Janelle. Yeah, yes, literally,

424
00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I hope they end up in that same apartment.

425
00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Robin would never she would never do that. She is

426
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>so invested in appearances and to go backward like that,

427
00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I think she'd sooner leave Cody Brown. She'd sooner leave

428
00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Cody Brown.

429
00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.119
<v Speaker 2>She'd be better off financially if she'd live in an

430
00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:44.200
<v Speaker 2>apartment of course, yeah, yep. And then he would be

431
00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:45.599
<v Speaker 2>broke in a dad apartment.

432
00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.279
<v Speaker 1>That'd be so great. Oh, I'd love to see it.

433
00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Right, And then Cody crying about the loss of his dream.

434
00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you thought this was genuine. Let's just all

435
00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.920
<v Speaker 1>join our raccoon claws, okay and just like have a

436
00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:02.160
<v Speaker 1>thought about it. Because I did see some moisture in

437
00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.559
<v Speaker 1>his eyes, and he made sure that I noticed that.

438
00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:09.039
<v Speaker 1>He kind of stumbled over his words. I saw that, Yeah,

439
00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:13.240
<v Speaker 1>But I think I did feel that he was feeling

440
00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that in the moment that he was at least acknowledging

441
00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:20.599
<v Speaker 1>that that big vision, that big dream is no longer possible,

442
00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't even know what the vision is anymore

443
00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.319
<v Speaker 1>because he's not a part of it anymore. And I

444
00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like he's feeling the loss of that. I do.

445
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:35.839
<v Speaker 1>But it stops right there, Yeah, like woe is me? Right?

446
00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:39.839
<v Speaker 1>They don't include me, they don't love me. It never

447
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>goes beyond that to what Mary ends up talking about

448
00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.319
<v Speaker 1>with her friend Brandy, which is like, one of these

449
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.799
<v Speaker 1>days you are going to realize what you have lost.

450
00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>And Mary's like, whether you like it or not, because

451
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:52.640
<v Speaker 1>once you get to co law, honey, and you have

452
00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.160
<v Speaker 1>norm in God and Jesus talking to you about how

453
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you destroyed all these marriages, like you're gonna have to

454
00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>take accountability for it. True, Like he can't do that

455
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>though that's too far, that's a bridge too far for him.

456
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, because to sit in that shame would be immense,

457
00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.279
<v Speaker 2>it'd be crazy. Like there's so much guilt there, there's

458
00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:11.680
<v Speaker 2>so much responsibility you would have to take, and like

459
00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.039
<v Speaker 2>he should take it. I'm not saying he shouldn't, but

460
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>like that's why he's delusional and holding on to this

461
00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.599
<v Speaker 2>fake idea of a dream that didn't even really exist

462
00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.440
<v Speaker 2>because you didn't make any.

463
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Effort, You didn't work for it. No, I expected these

464
00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 1>other women to do that work for you exactly.

465
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.839
<v Speaker 2>And even then you were still hanging out at Robin's

466
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:35.839
<v Speaker 2>house the entire time, So like what you just wanted

467
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:37.279
<v Speaker 2>all these people orbiting around you.

468
00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's all, and it's also for appearance, coming back

469
00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:43.640
<v Speaker 1>home and adoring him as the patriarch. But for what

470
00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:45.559
<v Speaker 1>what if you like put into what have you poured

471
00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 1>into these relationships after a certain point, like after Robin,

472
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 1>what have you really done? Yeah. Now, he did talk

473
00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about looking in the mirror at himself, and like previously

474
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he's been able to look at himself and say, I

475
00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:00.839
<v Speaker 1>love you, man, he's been able to pray to God

476
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and say I'm so grateful from a beautiful family, but

477
00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>like he can't look at himself the same way because

478
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>he sees himself differently. He sees himself the way that

479
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 1>his three wives who have left him see him well,

480
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and so he's struggling with who he is in the mirror. Good, yeah, good,

481
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 1>pleasing keep going. That's great. Not almost there, but at

482
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 1>least you're pointed in the right direct step. So I

483
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 1>was asking myself whether I believed that, like whether he

484
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>feels differently about himself as a man, as a priest

485
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 1>of the family, Like, how does he feel about himself?

486
00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he just feels rejected. I feel like

487
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.359
<v Speaker 2>it's still centered around the idea that like everybody is

488
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>doing this to him and not he's the source of it,

489
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 2>or like he's part of the problem. So that's where

490
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Yeah, you probably hate yourself, but you probably

491
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>hate yourself because you feel rejected, not because you fucked

492
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.319
<v Speaker 2>up this whole family. And like ruined all of your

493
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>relationships with your children and the wives, Like.

494
00:24:59.160 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

495
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it's it's not the right reason, not like

496
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.559
<v Speaker 2>saying you should hate yourself, but like, I don't know.

497
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:10.039
<v Speaker 1>At some point, I was wondering whether Cody has tipped

498
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.759
<v Speaker 1>over into the realm of acting the villain, Mmm, whether

499
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 1>he is having some internal breakthroughs, because you'd have to

500
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 1>be completely unconscious not to realize that you're the one

501
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that did all this, or like you did the majority

502
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 1>of this. You'd have to be really, really unconscious. And

503
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 1>so maybe he does know this deep down, but because

504
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>he needs the show to continue, he knows he needs

505
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 1>to be the villain. That's wild, can't you see it? Though?

506
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, but like that's like that's like Nakado

507
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>avocado level of like I'm two steps ahead.

508
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm the villain. Like why why can't you need the

509
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>show to continue?

510
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like you could be.

511
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:54.400
<v Speaker 1>A better person. Yeah, people would probably still watch. Maybe,

512
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean it is fundamentally a very boring show, sure,

513
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.599
<v Speaker 1>but we've been watching for nineteen season. Yeah. Maybe I

514
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And tell me what y'all think, Like, write

515
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to us on Instagram or here on YouTube you can

516
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously drop a comment. It just felt fake to me,

517
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and some of what Robin was giving, especially out on

518
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Coyote Pass, also felt rehearsed and fake to metal. So

519
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, that's wild.

520
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>If they have to play the villain just to keep

521
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 2>the show on there.

522
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. Well, notice how the new intro was. Gary

523
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>looked fantastic. She's wearing cream and white, Janelle wearing white,

524
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Christine with her terrible red lipstick, wearing white, and then

525
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>here's Robin wearing black and Cody wearing black with his

526
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 1>rings in his necklace and all of his bling bling

527
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 1>but in black. So production is trying to signal to

528
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.039
<v Speaker 1>us or set up this season in a certain way.

529
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 1>And maybe he's leaning into that because his gravy train

530
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.839
<v Speaker 1>is going to run dry unless he makes something work.

531
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't want another wife. Yeah, that's true. He

532
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>thinks he's a monogamous So what else is he going

533
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to do except be the foil to his family?

534
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you could do anything else.

535
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Just thought to thought. I don't know, just to thought.

536
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a good thought. Pretty diabolical thought.

537
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's pretty diabolical. Yeah he is.

538
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 2>But is he that smart though? That's the question to

539
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:14.839
<v Speaker 2>like act like a villain, like maybe he doesn't even

540
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>realize that TLC, I'll just.

541
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Be the demon that they did. He say something that's

542
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much what it is.

543
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god, Nelia, you might be on some something. Hi,

544
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 2>you might be onto something smart. Rec Yeah, I got

545
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>a big old brain over there.

546
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Work that monc. My god.

547
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 2>And then we have Janelle and Christine going to North Carolina. Yes,

548
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>to move isabel back to Salt Lake City. Right now

549
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that Christine's back.

550
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>In Utah, Isabelle's like, fuck North Carolina and also fuck

551
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you mom, because I'm not going to live with you

552
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake City. I will not even spend a

553
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>week with you in your single girl town hall. I mean,

554
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want as you're dating all of these She's

555
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>too much this Christine.

556
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's I I can't The whole divorced mom

557
00:27:58.160 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 2>thing is so grim.

558
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And also she's giving actress to in her interstitials. It's

559
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, calm down just a little bit. So

560
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Isabelle does not want to live with Christine, but she

561
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>does want to come back to Utah. She wants to

562
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>go to college there. Yeah, And so Janelle and Christine

563
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>have gone to North Carolina to move her back, and

564
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess Janelle, not Janelle, but Maddie's going to be

565
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 1>going on the trip with them.

566
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which would be great. And then Cody, I guess,

567
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>finds out on the couch that they're doing all of this.

568
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>And this is where he talks about fomo.

569
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Right the NOI suffer from fomo.

570
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to be included, and they're purposely doing this

571
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 2>to exclude me, to make me feel bad.

572
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Right all about you, Cody, I don't feel bad for

573
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 1>main character over here.

574
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you could be involved if you wanted to,

575
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 2>but everybody else has to involve you because you can't

576
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>do any of the work.

577
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>It's so wild to me, it's crazy. He also says

578
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>something about Christine and Janelle, like, oh, so Janelle went

579
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 1>with Christine to bring Isabelle back. He's just like, it's

580
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>so ironic because Christine used to have such a hard

581
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>time dealing with Mary and Janelle, and now all of

582
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, Janelle is just following her around everywhere and

583
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to be these fast friends. Make it make sense.

584
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 2>That's wild to me because I'm like, again, this is

585
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>how not present you've been for years, because Janelle and

586
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Christine have been friends the last several years. So like,

587
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>miss me with this, you.

588
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Just can't conceive of a world where he's not at

589
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the center of it. He just doesn't know how to

590
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 1>be or exist in that space.

591
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. And I really don't think he

592
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>can deal with the amount of rejection. I mean, three

593
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>wives leaving him at once, and.

594
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Speaker 1>The country a lot, actually the world and internationally he

595
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>is very hated. Yeah, yes, I.

596
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Mean truly though, and like all of your kids, everybody,

597
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>everybody hates you.

598
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he probably can't deal with it at all. Probably,

599
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, I love it. I love to see it.

600
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I love to see him squirm.

601
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>And then they arrive in Salt Lake City, Maddie's there

602
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 2>and we kind of talk about how she doesn't have

603
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:00.119
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with Cody.

604
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>The producers asked Cody, do.

605
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:03.559
<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about it, and he's like, I

606
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>will not, I will not discuss anything about Madison.

607
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Which was interesting. Janelle does talk about it. Janelle says

608
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that Maddie is unwilling to have a relationship with Cody

609
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>unless he can commit to having a presence in her

610
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 1>children's life. He can't just come in every once in

611
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a while whenever he feels like it, or when the

612
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>cameras are rolling and play Grandpa and then dip on

613
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>back out. So because Cody, I guess, hasn't really been

614
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>making that effort, Mattie's like, no, thank you. It is

615
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 1>interesting because you remember how much Cody loved Caleb. Oh yeah,

616
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>they had a complete romance. Yeah, like Cody loved him,

617
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I would imagine he doesn't talk to Caleb anymore,

618
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 1>certainly doesn't talk to Maddie and doesn't see any of

619
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 1>his grandbabies over there. Only mckelte's.

620
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I wonder, I don't know if we've talked about this before.

621
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 2>We probably have, but I forgot. I wonder if Maddie

622
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>called him out on shit and that's why he just

623
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 2>don't want to make any effort.

624
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I think in the Christmas group chat, she was the

625
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.559
<v Speaker 1>one of them, one of the kids that was speaking

626
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 1>up about all of the bullshit Robin was doing, which

627
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 1>caused Cody to have to come in and start dealing

628
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>with his kids. And I think she and Hunter and

629
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 1>maybe a couple of other kids were the primary people.

630
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm thinking speaking out and now he

631
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to talk about it, which is such bullshit.

632
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, give us something, dude, what are you going

633
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to do? Just spew virtril about Christine and Janelle and

634
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 2>then but you're not going to talk about your kids.

635
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we do have Robin saying that she doesn't

636
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 1>understand and or know why Cody is not reaching out

637
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to Madison or making an effort with her. But at

638
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the same time, his kids need to be making an

639
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>effort with him. And I just want to say, Cap,

640
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know exactly why because the Christmas group chat happened,

641
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 1>and Maddie was one of the people to confront you,

642
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 1>specifically for having to always insert yourself into family shit. Yep.

643
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 1>And so your piss Maddie, which means now Cody has

644
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 1>to be pissed at Mattie. And if Cody were to

645
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>reach out to Maddie and try to have a relationship,

646
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>how would that actually make you feel? Robin? Probably pretty bad.

647
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So he doesn't because he can't. It's you, exactly, It's you.

648
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And I hate the whole bullshit of like it takes

649
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 2>two if the child has to make the effort too. Yeah,

650
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>but if the child is making all of the effort

651
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and the parent's making none, then how is it fair?

652
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Like that shit makes me so mad.

653
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like as a parent, sometimes you have to

654
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 2>just kind of go at like make the effort.

655
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>You have to sacrifice as let me say, you have

656
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice as a parent, and sometimes your kids are

657
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 1>not actually they're not necessarily on the right side of

658
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 1>what's going down. But for the sake of having a

659
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 1>relationship with your child, for the sake of having love

660
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and peace in your family, you sacrifice what you think

661
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>is right. You sacrifice your pride, You sacrifice things that

662
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you can keep your family together, which is something Cody

663
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>won't do. And we know he won't do this because

664
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we saw during the COVID years when Gabe and Garrison

665
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 1>tried to talk to him out at Coyote Pass, yep,

666
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and talk to him about their mother and not seeing him.

667
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>He was completely resistant. Yes, and I think that's the

668
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 1>season he called them narcissists, yes, and stupid and stupid. Yeah.

669
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So the way that he even responded to his children

670
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>who just were asking for more time from him.

671
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Yep, he was an asshole, such an asshole. Yeah, he

672
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>needs to go see doctor Orna him and Robin. Yeah,

673
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that be great?

674
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, people who want to get better go to therapy.

675
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Cody doesn't want to get better.

676
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>No, because he thinks nothing's wrong with him. He even

677
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>asks that what did I do wrong?

678
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh? We could tell you. How much time do you have?

679
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>If you want to listen, we could tell you.

680
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>And then, last, but not least, we have Mary and

681
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Vegas visiting her friend Brandy, who, yes, I don't think

682
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>we've seen before.

683
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't recall her.

684
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>She's a new friend. I guess they were like really

685
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 2>close in Vegas, but we are just now meeting her.

686
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And this is where Mary tells Brandy Yummy and Cody

687
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 2>are officially done, and Brandy's like, finally, thank god, great,

688
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>So glad you got on this page, right Mary.

689
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 1>And it's during this conversation and really during the entire

690
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>episode that we're getting some of these fire yeah talking

691
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 1>heads from Mary, who acknowledges that Cody's probably going to

692
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>be pretty pissed at her when he sees this interview.

693
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>And I hope that this continues all please seasons. Yeah,

694
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>So we talk about so many things off the top

695
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 1>of my head. She wants to talk specifically about Cody's

696
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>claim that he never loved her and that he never

697
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 1>loved any of his wives when he married them. Uh huh.

698
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, so, let me get this straight. So

699
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you were just a young man who saw a young

700
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 1>woman and you thought to yourself, let me choose that

701
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>young woman to try and affirm and love. I don't

702
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>love her, I don't necessarily want her, but I'm willing

703
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to affirm love to her for thirty two years. She's like,

704
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>is that what you're actually telling me? Or is the

705
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>re reality that it was you and me that built

706
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this family? We're the first ones. Hello, and after me

707
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>came Janelle and Christine. And so if my marriage, if

708
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>our wedding was illegitimate, that means Janelle's wedding was illegitimate

709
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 1>and Christine's wedding was illegitimate. Yep, all for what the

710
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>reason is you love Robin who was ten years old

711
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time that you and I got married and

712
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>started copulate in which is so wild that she said that,

713
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>So Robin was ten or twelve years old? My god,

714
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you think her point was with that?

715
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like maybe calling him out, being like, you

716
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>never loved me, Well, you did have to love me

717
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>because Robin was a child, Like, but did you guys.

718
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Know Robin back then? No?

719
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, No, I think she's just making a dish since

720
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the fact.

721
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Rob don't exist. So you're telling me that you didn't

722
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 1>love me and you only ever loved Robin while she

723
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>was ten years old at the time. And what about

724
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 1>all the times we fucked? What about the child that

725
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>we have, what about the other marriages and all of

726
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>these other kids, what about the homes, what about the depths,

727
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 1>what about the money?

728
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>What about the journey that was not real? Yea, no,

729
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>it's so you're lying. I'm glad that she's calling that out,

730
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, it's like hard for me

731
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that she's like, I mean, he was giving me all

732
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>these mixed signals. I'm like, but he was literally saying,

733
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>he was literally saying for years that he does not

734
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>love you, he doesn't want to be with you.

735
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, yeah, but in order to get her

736
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to flag Staff, he did promise her a new start. Sure,

737
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and so even though in Vegas things definitely fell apart,

738
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 1>and we know that he was not having sex with

739
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>her for many years and they weren't having like a

740
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 1>full relationship. He promised her like, once we get to

741
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>flag Staff, we're going to turn this around and we're

742
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>going to have a new start. What he was really

743
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 1>doing was waiting as she sold her place in Vegas

744
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and then taking the profits and proceeds of the sale

745
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of her house and Janelle's and then using that to

746
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>buy Robin's nine hundred thousand dollars home while Mary rented,

747
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Janelle rented, and Christine owned a lesser home.

748
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 2>See, if he was playing the villain, he really needs

749
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to admit that he did all of that then, because

750
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>otherwise I'm like, you just look.

751
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Like a fool.

752
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Don't come at me saying that you didn't love any

753
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>of these women. But Robin, like that is such a

754
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 2>load of bullshit. And then you're saying all of this

755
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>shit to their kids and to the public, like gets crazy.

756
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 2>So I love that Mary is getting mad at that

757
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and calling him out for that.

758
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I love how she.

759
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Swore and said of curse words and you could believe

760
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 2>that out if you want great living for it.

761
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I love that as well. I do think that Mary

762
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 1>could probably acknowledge that well. Maybe she did, because she

763
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>even said, maybe I should have been committed for being

764
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 1>committed for thirty two years, like maybe I was crazy

765
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 1>for believing in this. But I do think that Mary

766
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>takes her spiritual vows very seriously. Oh, that is her intention,

767
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 1>or at least it was, that she would spend her

768
00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.280
<v Speaker 1>eternity with this man, and that's the life she was building. Well,

769
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and so for a lot of us who aren't necessarily

770
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>religious or we don't really get it like that, we

771
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>don't understand it, like it's a bigger deal for her.

772
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 1>And even though she may not have felt great about

773
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Cody and their relationship, she was working for a higher goal.

774
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, and she does take that very seriously. I

775
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 2>was actually surprised to hear her talk about their spiritual

776
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>marriage because she mentions that and says that she's in

777
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the process of getting that.

778
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Nolan Voyd, I don't know to go

779
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to Mormon temple, like, yeah, I have to. You think

780
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to go to like the elder, to the priest,

781
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 1>to the priest. You have to have and they have

782
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.599
<v Speaker 1>to like sign off on it. They have to already

783
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 1>been embarrassed by your family and they're like, yes, absolutely,

784
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>get the heck out of here with the fire bullshit. Yeah,

785
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, she's going to have to go through that process.

786
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 1>It's probably similar to trying to get an annulment with

787
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church. Oh is that a thing? Yeah? Yes.

788
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>When I was married to my second husband, he had

789
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to annul his first marriage, which I'm like, well, why

790
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 1>though you have two children from that marriage, why would

791
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 1>you need to annul that? And he's like, well, in

792
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>order for you to convert to Catholicism, which I was

793
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about doing, I need to get an annulment. You

794
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>need to get an annulment from your first husband, even

795
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>though I was never a Catholic. It's crazy, the paperwork

796
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you've got to go through. So maybe with Mormonism it's

797
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 1>something similar, like you got to you got to write

798
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 1>to the Vatican, you got to write to Rome.

799
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's like actual paperwork.

800
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh my gosh.

801
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>What.

802
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>In fact, the reason I never converted was because the

803
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 1>priest who was handling my paperwork, which it sounds so

804
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me, didn't submit it in time and didn't

805
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 1>do all the things that he needed to do. Wow,

806
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>which I don't want to hell. Then I took as

807
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a sign that I'm not meant to be Catholic, which

808
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>is fine with me now. But yeah, it's a lot.

809
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's what Mary has to do too, something similar.

810
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, I've talked to Ethel about it before

811
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and she said that it's like a whole thing because

812
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>you have to go to the priest or whatever, the elders,

813
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to write like a reason for it,

814
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and then they have to approve it, and then it's

815
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 2>this whole ceremony and like you know, weird secret handshakes

816
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff that they have to do, and then it's

817
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, god on colub is like, yeah, it's fine,

818
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.679
<v Speaker 2>You're not sealed anymore for eternity.

819
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 1>And then you're free to maybe meet somebody else and

820
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>become a new polygamyal wife or something like that. I

821
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but Mary, go after what you want. I

822
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>just want you to be happy. I don't know. I

823
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 1>watched this episode and I have historically kind of been

824
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 1>very irritated with Mary and her inability to communicate and

825
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>just the way that she interacts in the family. And

826
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 1>of course we just went through season five. Yeah with

827
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 1>my God the wet Bar and I'm like, oh, Lord Jesus,

828
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>she's annoying, But I really appreciated so much of what

829
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 1>she said. I do think she at the time she's

830
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>talking to Brandy on the couch in Las Vegas, I

831
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>think she's trying to be kind, she's trying not to

832
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>disparage Cody. But by the time we see her on

833
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the couch wearing that little camouflage thing, I think she's

834
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.119
<v Speaker 1>a little more ready to disparage Cody. So I'm hoping

835
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 1>as we go on we get more from her. She

836
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>did mention Robin, Yeah, and she doesn't think Robin is

837
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a bad person, and she knows that other people in

838
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 1>the family do think she's a bad person, and a

839
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of the public think that she's bad, but that

840
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 1>she thinks she's a good person.

841
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that?

842
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that they had an alliance,

843
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 1>and I think Robin may have tried to help Mary

844
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>in certain ways during the relationships. But I think Mary

845
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 1>is starting to wake up a little bit to the

846
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 1>fact that towards the end there, Robin was throwing her

847
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>under the bus a lot. Remember when I think it

848
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 1>was Isabelle was coming for Christmas, and Mary has a

849
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>good relationship with isabel And Robin never told Mary that

850
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Isabelle was in town and all this stuff. Like I

851
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 1>think Mary's starting to realize, oh, maybe Robin wasn't the

852
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>friend that I thought she was, but she's not ready

853
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>quite yet, yeah, to throw her under the bus.

854
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 2>So I think Mary's a little naive when it comes

855
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to people, Like she thought Cody was good until like

856
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 2>just three seven weeks ago, so, and like she thought

857
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Cody had like good intentions with her so and he didn't.

858
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 2>And then she's looking at Robin being like, yeah, she's

859
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>not a bad person, because she's looking at their friendship

860
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>as a whole, as opposed to like what Robin's been

861
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>doing with Cody this whole entire time. And maybe there's

862
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of denial with Mary of like

863
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>not wanting to accept the fact that this friend that

864
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.159
<v Speaker 2>she was so close with for years essentially stole her

865
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>husband away and took part in the breakup of this

866
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>entire family. Maybe there's some denial there, but like, I

867
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I was kind of sid eyeing that if, like.

868
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Robin's a good person.

869
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I know other people think she's bad, but she's a

870
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>good person.

871
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I think she was a little bit tempered with that.

872
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she was very adamant about Robin being

873
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a good person, and she was like a little bit

874
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>equivocating and acknowledging in her tone that there's some issues there,

875
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>but that she still thinks she's okay. I don't know.

876
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens as the season goes on, definitely,

877
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 1>But you know what I was thinking about, Beatrice, I

878
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about Leon a lot because I'm just wondering

879
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>how Mary feels. Because the rumors have it, and these

880
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 1>are just rumors, all alleged that Cody disapproves of Leon's lifestyle,

881
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 1>and therefore I would imagine Robin does as well. And

882
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe Leon is somewhat, if not full on estranged

883
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>from Cody and Robin. And if Cody is disapproving of

884
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Leon and Leon's existence, I would imagine that would piss

885
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Mary off for sure, especially over time.

886
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure as the mother, like You're gonna be like, really,

887
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you're going to disapprove of our child, like you should

888
00:43:55.639 --> 00:44:00.679
<v Speaker 2>love our child no matter what. Fuck You and Mary

889
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 2>seem to have a good relationship, like they post photos

890
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 2>and the stuf.

891
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Has a great relationship with the rest of the family

892
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>for the most part.

893
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think most people are accepting, right, And

894
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard anything else besides Cody and Robin.

895
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Didn't they just have a recent something or rather in

896
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Utah or Wyoming. Janelle was there, but I think Leon

897
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>was there. Oh yeah, I think Leon was there. A

898
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 1>lot of the other kids were there, so Leon's still

899
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a part of the family. But I think Cody has

900
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a problem with Leon being trends that's me, my fake

901
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>psychic intuition, but I think he has a fundamental problem

902
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 1>with Leon's existence, and I think as time goes on,

903
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that's going to really bother Mary more and more.

904
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It'd be nice to hear about it, though, it'd be

905
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 2>nice to you know, know.

906
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Cody, how do you think Leon feels hearing how you

907
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 1>talk about their mom? I mean, for real that you

908
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>never loved their mom. Oh, that we never should have

909
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>married their mom. Because we see in the previews for

910
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 1>the season he's talking about like, yeah, well, the mistake

911
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>was I married some I didn't love, or the mistake

912
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 1>was I married the wrong person. So imagine being Leon

913
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>or any of the other kids hearing their fathers say

914
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like I never loved your mom. That's therefore rendering you illegitimate,

915
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 1>not legally, but like energetically and spiritually.

916
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, you weren't created out of love because I hated

917
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:19.639
<v Speaker 2>your mom.

918
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, I mean, even if it's true, Like, let's give

919
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:26.679
<v Speaker 1>him the benefit of the doubt, don't say it publicly. Serious,

920
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>if you love your children, you don't say that shit

921
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.119
<v Speaker 1>publicly for real. But he does not give up food, No, because.

922
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>He's pissed and his ego is so damaged because all

923
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 2>of these women left him, Because how dare anybody leave

924
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Cody Brown?

925
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>What did he want from Mary? Let's talk about that,

926
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Like what was his best case scenario? Like he's like, Yeah,

927
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 1>you can live in the barn dominium. We can just

928
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>be friends. You can continue to supplement the money that

929
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy and that my wife enjoys, because so continue

930
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.119
<v Speaker 1>to give us, to give us money and will and

931
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to let you live on Cody paths. Is that what

932
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he wanted her to do?

933
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just to have the appearance of like he's

934
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 2>a good polygamous man. He wanted her to be okay

935
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>with that, But like, nobody is gonna be okay with

936
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 2>being in a sexless, loveless marriage, not even a marriage,

937
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>just a companionship friendship friendship, partnership friendship where I just

938
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.239
<v Speaker 2>live on the same property and like, I bring you

939
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 2>cookies for Christmas, but then that's it. That's our only interaction.

940
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what he was hoping for. I think

941
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that was his best case scenario. Just put her in

942
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.119
<v Speaker 1>the loft above all of his storage and the barn dominium,

943
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'll see you from time to time and otherwise

944
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>your persona non grata to me, exactly, but i'll see

945
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you in the afterlife though, yeah, you can still on

946
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 1>it right exactly.

947
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow, but I won't touch you there either.

948
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I think we end the scene with Brandy with Mary

949
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about not knowing what to do with the mementos,

950
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 1>like the photographs and the ornament with all of their

951
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 1>pictures in it, and well, she also said like she's

952
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 1>really pissed at Cody for leading her and everyone else,

953
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:13.639
<v Speaker 1>including the viewers, to believe that he was this guy

954
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>who believed in polygamy when now all of a sudden,

955
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't. And she says that Cody has actually said

956
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 1>words from his mouth that he thinks polygamy is not

957
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 1>fair to women? What is that coming in? And Brandy

958
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 1>says that doesn't sound like the Cody Brown that I know.

959
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:36.280
<v Speaker 1>And on the couch, Mary says, well, maybe it's just you, Cody,

960
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that weren't fair to women. Mike drop bomb drop so based.

961
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 2>But do you think he actually says that? Do you

962
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>think he actually believes that?

963
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Now? I think he actually said it. That's why I

964
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think Mary would have repeated it unless he said it.

965
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Why would he think that? Why would he say that?

966
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that would mean that you, in effect,

967
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 1>are unfair to the wives that you no longer have.

968
00:47:59.760 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yea.

969
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Is it a moment of awakening or is it just

970
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>him trying to disavow something he said he believed to

971
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 1>make it easier for him to be monogamous now I

972
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>am not sure?

973
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Or is it him putting the blame on something other

974
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 2>than himself, like, oh, it's polygamy that's bad to him

975
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 2>and not me. I was a good husband, right, I

976
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:18.599
<v Speaker 2>did the best that I could. I'm not a bad guy.

977
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 1>It's polygamy. But we're supposed to believe that Robin still

978
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>wants polygamy and that she's unhappy because none of these

979
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 1>other wives are around, and she wants to have other wives,

980
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So I don't like lady. I was gobsmacked when I

981
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.679
<v Speaker 1>heard that he said that, and then when Mary retorted

982
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>in that way, I was like, yes, queen, yes, yes, yes.

983
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>But now Mary's left with the aftermath of this fake

984
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.639
<v Speaker 1>fucking relationship that she's trying to commit to. Yep, and

985
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 1>years upon your thirty two years of artifacts and evidence

986
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 1>supporting her relationship existed. What she's supposed to do with

987
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all this shit?

988
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what is she supposed to do in general? Like,

989
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you were married to this guy for thirty

990
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 2>two years. He gave most of your life to him,

991
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 2>So now alone and like that sucks. Maybe that's why

992
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 2>she's doing her worthy of thing to make herself feel better,

993
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.159
<v Speaker 2>which is fair. Like I feel bad for her honestly,

994
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 2>because now she's alone, she has nobody.

995
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we won't get started unworthy up. And like,

996
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 1>how much time it would probably take for you to

997
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 1>heal from this situation, specifically before you can go out

998
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>there and try to help other people to heal in

999
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>their own lives and on their own journey. We don't

1000
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>have to get into that because we've gotten into it before,

1001
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 1>but I did feel very bad. Like I have a

1002
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 1>box right over there filled with love letters from my

1003
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>second husband, your wife's father, pictures, yeah, when we first met,

1004
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 1>pictures of us all together, when your wife was just

1005
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a child, like these pictures, which I would never burn.

1006
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And Mary's not ready to do it either. I mean

1007
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I would never get rid of And it's been I

1008
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know, sixteen years or however many years it's been,

1009
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and I still haven't given those things up because it's

1010
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a part of my life that I don't want to forget.

1011
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so grateful for my daughter. Yeah, and I'm

1012
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>even grateful for him and the things that we learned together.

1013
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's just part of divorce, and it's really hard.

1014
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard. I remember when my mom and my

1015
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 1>dad got divorced. My mom had a hard time getting

1016
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>rid of everything, Like she got rid of the most shit,

1017
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 1>but the only thing that she kept was like all

1018
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>of the photos, so like we have all of their

1019
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>wedding photos and stuff like that, because she never want

1020
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to get never wanted to get rid of it because

1021
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>she always said, you know, you girls might want that,

1022
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>like those are your parents, you know you still had that.

1023
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>It's your childhood, those are your memories, Like that's important.

1024
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 1>So like Mary's probably going to keep it, but it's

1025
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be hard, yeah, to keep it all. And

1026
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that sucks, it does, and yeah, I can relate to that.

1027
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I really felt for her as she started to cry,

1028
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and her sentiment that she wants to remain kind even

1029
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>though Cody is not kind and Brandy her friend even acknowledges,

1030
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like all the shit he has said about you, how

1031
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 1>come you're not more mad?

1032
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1033
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I just I want to conduct myself. I

1034
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 1>want to take a high road. I want to conduct

1035
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.159
<v Speaker 1>myself at the highest possible level, which I respect. That's fair,

1036
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>But I encourage her to stop that shit immediately and

1037
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>start telling me teddy and start dragging this man reflect

1038
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:24.199
<v Speaker 1>back to Cody Brown exactly who the fuck he is? Yes, please.

1039
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>He even talks about it, like we just said, like

1040
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about looking at himself in the mirror and it's

1041
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 1>hard to see him based on see himself and love

1042
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:34.840
<v Speaker 1>himself based on what his three wives have been saying

1043
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>about him. Because he's starting to internalize it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is what we want, and so Mary give it to him. Baby.

1045
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Please, you're the one that knows the most.

1046
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Give it to him. Please be so great. If she

1047
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 1>wrote a tell all book or something.

1048
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 2>She dragged him, yep through the mud, I'd love to

1049
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 2>see it.

1050
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, he laughs about it on the couch. Did you

1051
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.519
<v Speaker 1>catch that? And he's like, yeah, I know, Mary's now

1052
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>making her little statements about me. I'm not going to

1053
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:01.519
<v Speaker 1>comment on it, and he just laughs, yeah, wow, Yeah,

1054
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 1>she's holding a lot in imagine if she let the

1055
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>flood gates going.

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00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.840
<v Speaker 2>God. That's why I'm kind of hoping he continues on

1057
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 2>this path of being the villain and saying this fucked

1058
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 2>up shit, because maybe he'll say something just fucked up

1059
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 2>enough that Mary will just be like.

1060
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 1>You know what, sue him.

1061
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna assue you. I'm gonna say all this shit

1062
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 2>that you did to me, everything that you did to

1063
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the other wives. There's more stories than just my ring baby, Yep,

1064
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I know it. That'd be so great, it'd be fantastic.

1065
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 1>It's the hope and the dream of the raccoon.

1066
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pray to God on kolob Yes, dear gon.

1067
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 1>On Collab, dear Mormon, Jesus, dear with the pastor please please.

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00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.519
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, did you get the sense that

1069
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Mary was super chagrined that they were going out like this, Yeah,

1070
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 1>like polygamy and what they've shown the audience and what

1071
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>they've shown the world, because I think she went into

1072
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.679
<v Speaker 1>it with the right intention for them to show that,

1073
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 1>like polygamist families can be functioning and healthy and full

1074
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of love, and they just ended up showing something so

1075
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking toxic. Yep, And she's really sad that that was

1076
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 1>the example that they made. Oh yeah, I would be.

1077
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, this is our legacy, really, like we're

1078
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna break up after all these years? Like wow, yeah,

1079
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 2>i'd be upset. And actually, the guy from My Five Wives, Yeah,

1080
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a very boring show. I mean good, I've never

1081
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>seen it. It's like there's some like little tidbits and stuff,

1082
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>but they're not as dysfunctional as the Browns. But anyway,

1083
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 2>he's got five wives, he's a polygamist, he lives up

1084
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:40.199
<v Speaker 2>in Washington. He commented about this whole thing just recently,

1085
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and he said that Cody is such a piece of shit,

1086
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 2>like basically just like how could.

1087
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You do this?

1088
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Like you are making a mockery of polygamy, and like,

1089
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 2>you didn't do this right, And like, if you're saying

1090
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:52.599
<v Speaker 2>you didn't get married for love, then what did you

1091
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>get married for?

1092
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the.

1093
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Whole point of polygamy, as a whole point of our faith. Like,

1094
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck are you talking about? He called him

1095
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 2>out real, really great.

1096
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just recent, fantastic, and we know that Joe Darker

1097
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 1>also called him out a couple of years ago. I

1098
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>love it, And that's what needs to happen. And you know,

1099
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Cody respects and needs the validation of men.

1100
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Of course, because he's gay.

1101
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:17.320
<v Speaker 1>My god, I didn't say that. You did. We've been

1102
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 1>talking for so long. Let's wrap it up. So the

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00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 1>preview was something we have already seen. It was the

1104
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 1>season previews.

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00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Christine dating David there, hi.

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00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Baby, Oh my god. Maybe I can't take Janelle talking

1107
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:37.480
<v Speaker 1>about suing. Yes, but she doesn't. Well, but maybe they settled,

1108
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they want to see it. May they mediated. Maybe

1109
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:45.639
<v Speaker 1>there's conversations with lawyers. Yeah, maybe.

1110
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 2>And then we have Cody and Mary arguing. Yeah, we

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00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 2>have Cody meeting David, which I love to say.

1112
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a nothing burger.

1113
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know I feel like there's gonna

1114
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.039
<v Speaker 2>be some looks shared. I feel like David's gonna be

1115
00:54:58.079 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 2>like this guy.

1116
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 1>He's a loser, he has inverted testicles, he's got no boldness.

1117
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think David cares. Yeah, David does, okay.

1118
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 2>God, and then Robins saying she's losing respect for Cody,

1119
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:13.320
<v Speaker 2>but we think that's bullshit. Cody trying to reconcile with

1120
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Chanelle because he's.

1121
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Broke, right, he's the writing on the wall. He's broke.

1122
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You're making how much beautiful today?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I feel like we could get together again.

1124
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Don't you feel this? I don't feel it. I do

1125
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.480
<v Speaker 1>not feel it, don't feel it at all.

1126
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>And then him Cody saying, blame yourself if I don't

1127
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 2>love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so we should, oh my god, with raccoons.

1129
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<v Speaker 2>We should put that on there with one of our

1130
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:48.599
<v Speaker 2>worst reviews. Blame yourself if you don't love.

1131
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Us, that would be so good your internal license. Oh

1132
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>my god, Well, blame yourself you don't like me? Seriously?

1133
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, do we have anything else that we

1134
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>need to say to these beautiful raccoons before we get

1135
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>up on outa here?

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<v Speaker 2>Beatrice well, if you love our podcast, you better you

1137
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 2>going on to your favorite podcast platform and leave us

1138
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 2>a glowing five star review. It really helps us grow

1139
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the pod so we can get better.

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate it. Thank you. We will be back

1141
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:27.039
<v Speaker 1>later this week to talk the secret lives of Mormon wives.

1142
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait, elscandala, Oh my god, swingers, Oh my god,

1143
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm so orgy, orgies, keddemy extensions, domestic violence.

1144
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be great, so make sure you come back

1145
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for that, and until then, please don't forget that we

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing but love for you and Pea. My guys,