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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened, Weird, weird, Weird. Welcome to Bledsoe said, so, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>people to the show before we get into today's topic,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that I've been meaning to do for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally the night is upon us to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>at least this night. While we're recording as usual, I

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<v Speaker 1>of like I think right now, it's at eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>like minded people coming together to talk about really deep things,

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<v Speaker 1>our ten dollar tier, in addition to all of the

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<v Speaker 1>that you will get your name in the show credits.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to literally be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>on our Patreon. Blitz just said, so there was something

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<v Speaker 1>else I wanted to mention, retreat. I have a retreat

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. I think by the time this comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll have just happened, right, So that's cool, No stress,

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<v Speaker 1>got my first Monroe Institute retreat out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't panic, because I'm going to be doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more of these, and I'm going to be doing them

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<v Speaker 1>more regularly, and that is something that I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>about to where basically, I'll be able to host my

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<v Speaker 1>own Monroe Institute outreach programs with people. So I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the process of building a website for that. So if

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you're listening to this episode and at

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<v Speaker 1>the current time, I don't have the website, but if

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<v Speaker 1>it is out by then check my socials. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not out by then, it's still in progress. But I

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<v Speaker 1>am building a website for that. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, you know, one way that you can help

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<v Speaker 1>us out is literally, I know, I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>it like inscribe, Guys like inscribe, if you subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>the show on YouTube, it helps us out, following our

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<v Speaker 1>socials things like that, because we're trying to get the

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<v Speaker 1>message out there into the world. So, you know, help

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<v Speaker 1>us out people. And yeah, so enough of all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not bad. Three minutes got all that stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. Tonight is an important episode. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something that was very intentional on my part. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years, I have very intentionally not told the

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<v Speaker 1>story of my family of what happened to us in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. I've talked about the story. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the impact of it and things that have happened after,

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<v Speaker 1>and before and even during. I have never sat down

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<v Speaker 1>and conclusively actually told the events of the Cape Fear River,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was actually intentional on my part because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to. I always knew in the back of my

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<v Speaker 1>mind that we wouldn't come out the gate with that,

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be understood that people that are finding

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<v Speaker 1>our show are already aware of some elements of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did not want to just make the show

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<v Speaker 1>be about constantly talking about these events. I wanted to always,

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<v Speaker 1>at a later time tell this story to its completion.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alex and I have been talking about things lately

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to get into. Obviously, the show has

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<v Speaker 1>been restructuring, and it just kind of hit me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's finally time to do what I've always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, which was tell the story. Because my

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<v Speaker 1>hope is that people out there hearing about us from

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<v Speaker 1>the first time and then look this up and they're

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<v Speaker 1>curious about what happened to us, or you know what

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<v Speaker 1>the story is, you know. Obviously, A, they could read

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<v Speaker 1>it from my father's book. B. They could hear either

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<v Speaker 1>him or myself, or my brother Chris Junior, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even my sister talk about it on other people's programs

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the wilderness of the Internet, that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any control over their publishing or their platform

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. Or now from this point forward,

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<v Speaker 1>they could hear it from me on a platform owned

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<v Speaker 1>and operated by the Blacksweb family, which has never really

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<v Speaker 1>been done. So, yeah, I just realized it's finally time

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. And you know you're probably thinking back now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, yeah, actually that I don't recall you ever

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<v Speaker 1>telling this story, yeah, because that was intentional from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do that, knowing that I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it at a later time when we've built more

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<v Speaker 1>of a platform. So anyway, let me just get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of you have probably read the book. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of you have probably heard this story many times.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. I still want to tell it. I still

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about what happened. And also, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in some way it would be cathartic for me to

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<v Speaker 1>in some way control the publishing of this on my

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<v Speaker 1>own platform, right that's named after and representing the Blessed Family. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's probably and I've already said this,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's probably a lot of new listeners that will

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<v Speaker 1>visit us at different points in the future that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they've just saw a reference to us on some other

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<v Speaker 1>show and they're curious and they want to hear it

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. Great, here for me, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it for me. So to get into the story, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back a little bit before two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seven and we need to talk about what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on around our family. So my father was a

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<v Speaker 1>very successful business man, and by the time I was born,

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<v Speaker 1>we lived in a gated community where the millionaires lived.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm putting it bluntly, you know, rich people. We

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<v Speaker 1>were very successful. We had means, you know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we wanted. I was born into this life. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know different. We were church going people, good people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were different people and we had it all

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<v Speaker 1>man and we just had basically this empire where if

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<v Speaker 1>you looked at all of the construction companies in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>like the region, my father's business that he built was

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<v Speaker 1>like top three next to some very big players, some

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<v Speaker 1>very very very big money players. My dad made it

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<v Speaker 1>very successful at a pretty young age. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was born, he was only thirty one or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and I'm like thirty two now, so put

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<v Speaker 1>that in perspective. He was just a very successful guy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, moving on past that part, Up until I

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<v Speaker 1>was twelve, we had everything. We had a normal experience

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<v Speaker 1>of being very wealthy, living in a pretty much million

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<v Speaker 1>the toys, and given to all the you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad would always give to the community. He would donate

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<v Speaker 1>to the schools, He would help people in the military

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<v Speaker 1>or law enforcement, or kids that were poor. He would

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<v Speaker 1>be buying him Christmases because he felt sorry for him

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, maybe their parents worked for him and

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't afford Christmas for their families. He was just

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of guy, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>he suddenly around two thousand and four or five, by

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<v Speaker 1>the time I was by the time I was like

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<v Speaker 1>ten years old, Oh, he got really sick. He already

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<v Speaker 1>had Crohn's disease my whole life, but he got to

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<v Speaker 1>the point to where he couldn't manage in his day

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<v Speaker 1>was going on with his crones disease flaring up and

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<v Speaker 1>his business basically running into trouble, especially post nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>the construction business started to plummet, and then, as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>many years later, two thousand and eight, there was this

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<v Speaker 1>massive collapse, right, you know what I'm talking about. So

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight there was a massive collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>So the years leading up to that, his business was

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<v Speaker 1>facing troubles and paired with his Crohn's disease, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a very serious inflammatory stomach condition, and the stress and

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety that he was experiencing, he was having a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of really bad Crownes disease flare up. So he starts

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<v Speaker 1>to see a doctor and I'm going to skip over

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of details here. This doctor was psychotic and

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<v Speaker 1>he gave my father a concoction of medications that were

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<v Speaker 1>extremely they were lethal. They basically killed my father. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was laying in the bed just a fun fact,

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<v Speaker 1>laying in the bed floated out of his body. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>read the doctor's name tag and or not not the

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<v Speaker 1>psychotic doctor, but like in the hospital when he was

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<v Speaker 1>being resuscitated, he read the doctor's name tag. Later, when

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<v Speaker 1>he was awake, he told my mom this person's name

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, there's no way you would have

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<v Speaker 1>known that he was basically, you know, dead on the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital bed, so he's resuscitated from that, had his out

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<v Speaker 1>of body experiences, near death or whatever. He's basically physically

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<v Speaker 1>and mentally crippled for a year or two. Then by

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<v Speaker 1>the time I'm twelve, we went bankrupt and we lost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of our stuff was basically like just repossessed

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<v Speaker 1>and taken from us, and we had nothing, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had to move across town to go live in a

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<v Speaker 1>trailer that luckily, my dad had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>cash left over from his his you know years run

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<v Speaker 1>the business, and we dumped it all into like building

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<v Speaker 1>an addition on this trailer because me and my three

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<v Speaker 1>siblings needed, you know, space to live. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twelve, every weekend after school we spent it building

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<v Speaker 1>onto this trailer, which was a nightmare. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of that year, you know, we settled into

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<v Speaker 1>this trailer and we're literally in poverty on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of town, out in the country, completely removed from

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<v Speaker 1>our previous life, lost all of our friends and all

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<v Speaker 1>the little kids we knew, and it was just this like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this this gut wrenching event of literally losing

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<v Speaker 1>everything and having to move out to the country and

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<v Speaker 1>live in this added on trailer, go to completely new schools.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we were devastated as the kids, We were

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<v Speaker 1>completely devastated. I was in a like a severe state

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<v Speaker 1>of clinical depression because of this. My point is we

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<v Speaker 1>hit rock bottom very quickly, right around the time this

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<v Speaker 1>UFO stuff started. So from all these sequence of events,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being pretty well to do, successful people, going

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<v Speaker 1>to rock bottom and being completely broke and broken as

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<v Speaker 1>a family to where I remember at like that year,

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<v Speaker 1>my father's crying because he can't even afford Christmas, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Can you imagine that? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine as a kid being like I want to intend

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<v Speaker 1>a we and your father starts weeping and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't afford it, you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 1>just the the thought process involved there as a young kid,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like those are things you should never see, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember having a digo in my grandma's drawer for

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<v Speaker 1>you can apply if you are a certain level of poverty,

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<v Speaker 1>they just give you free lunch. You don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>Feed the kids. You know, all of those programs of

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<v Speaker 1>We had to do all that stuff because we had

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<v Speaker 1>and us children were devastated. But ultimately, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>That's when the UFO started. So let's get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So my father was so mentally destitute from all of

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<v Speaker 1>So just the consequence of everything, you know, selling the business,

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<v Speaker 1>losing everything. He's going fishing this night after finishing a

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<v Speaker 1>he's not enjoying it. Some time had passed between you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, you know, not building and selling

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred homes a year. He was doing small jobs

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<v Speaker 1>with small crews at this point, right two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had just finished a small job. So him

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<v Speaker 1>He was, as he says, and I'm just gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>it at this. My dad always says, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>the worst thoughts, you know, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So he walks off from the group. He's not really

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<v Speaker 1>So they were in this open clearing. He always says

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<v Speaker 1>the word could a sac but this was not paved.

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<v Speaker 1>This is literally forest. You drive out past the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're talking like, you know, eight ten miles

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<v Speaker 1>on the south side to where you hit the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the highway headed towards Wilmington, which is where you and

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<v Speaker 1>I live, right but geographically for the listeners, So we

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<v Speaker 1>were way deep in the country past the south side

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<v Speaker 1>of Fayabville, in this place called Gray's Creek, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where I grew up twelve on and he's out in

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<v Speaker 1>the country of the country, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like acres of forest, to where there was this field

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just trailers on like probably one hundred or

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<v Speaker 1>so acres of just grass with a dirt road and

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<v Speaker 1>just trailers. And then there's a highway that runs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through it. So he comes off the highway, they go

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<v Speaker 1>through this huge grass field down the dirt road and

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<v Speaker 1>then it stops and there's a gate and there's this heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy forest. You drive through the forest all on like mud.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not paved. This is way out in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no light, there's there's nothing out here, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a naturally like formed I mean people like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shoveled it out and everything. But it's like a road

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<v Speaker 1>of dirt and mud and leaves and pine straw that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's wide enough for one single car to go either way.

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<v Speaker 1>So going on this trail, you're going into the forest

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<v Speaker 1>about a half mile. And then when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this trail, there's this huge circular clearing

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<v Speaker 1>on the bed of the Cape Fear River and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all just grass. It's it's wilderness, but there's a part

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<v Speaker 1>where some trees were cut down where that always caught

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<v Speaker 1>it a cul de sac because it's like a circle

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the forest that's cleared. That's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty yards either way or something like that of

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<v Speaker 1>this spot to where you could park your truck. You

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<v Speaker 1>could walk down to the lake bed. People had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people had a little tire swing on the tree and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. You know, people have been fishing in

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<v Speaker 1>here probably for hundreds of years, this little spot. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're in this clearing, deep in the forest, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Dad leaves them at this clearing and he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>walk back up that path that the car comes in

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<v Speaker 1>to go into this forest. Right, And at this point

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<v Speaker 1>it is January eighth, two thousand and seven. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do we know about the timing of the sunset in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina in January? It starts getting dark at about

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<v Speaker 1>five o'clock, right, that's accurate. It's about four thirty, so

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<v Speaker 1>the sun is beginning his set, but it's still light out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's important for later. My dad starts to walk up

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<v Speaker 1>this path. So it's about a half mile, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you do the math, that's about a fifteen minute

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<v Speaker 1>walk at a normal pace, which is accurate. He's for

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<v Speaker 1>the next fifteen minutes or so, he's walking up this path,

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<v Speaker 1>but he keeps stopping because he's hearing these these weird

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<v Speaker 1>noises in the bushes and in the trees. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>at first he thought, maybe it's a turkey, Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fox. Like this rustling rustling the bushes, rustling the leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>and it made his hair stand up on his neck.

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<v Speaker 1>And he would stop and he was like, something's following me.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets down on his hands and knees.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he describe I might be making this up? Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>he talk about it stopped when he stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So he's getting down on his hands and knees.

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<v Speaker 1>He's looking under the bushes. Is it a turkey, Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a raccoon? Is it a fox? What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And as you said, it would stop when he stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would get up and he would keep walking,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would keep hearing it maybe a little you know, stick, snap,

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<v Speaker 1>the leaves, rustling. Something's following him, something's tracking him, and

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<v Speaker 1>it unnerved him. My father was like pretty much a

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<v Speaker 1>professional hunter, professional fisherman, I mean, dude, Like literally, we

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the country. You know, think like people on

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<v Speaker 1>their rocking chair, you know what I mean. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>how we grew up. Man, and people out there where

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<v Speaker 1>either hunters or fishers are both period, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bledsoe family, not just my father and my brothers, but

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<v Speaker 1>my whole extended family and then my mother's side too,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dickens, all hunters and fisher fishers. Dude, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>to our property. It's just a bunch of taxidermied fish

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<v Speaker 1>and deerheads. Like that's literally, and that's my mom's side.

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<v Speaker 1>You should see my grandfather's house where my dad grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that times ten in just the living room.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's literally like it's all hunting and fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the culture there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a large part of the culture in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, in the south of the United States, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you don't if you're if you're poor, then

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<v Speaker 2>you don't eat. If you can't catch it or kill it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and see, I always felt like an outcast in

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<v Speaker 1>my family because even as a little boy, I hated fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to read books and play Pokemon on my

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<v Speaker 1>game boy, you know what I mean. I never was

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<v Speaker 1>that way. The last animal that I shot, I was

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years old, and I was depressed for three days.

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<v Speaker 1>I shot a bird and I hated it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt terrible. Nobody nobody said, what's wrong with you? Why'd

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? Nobody even knew. I just took on

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<v Speaker 1>my twenty two shot a bird. Miserable for three days,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this isn't for me. I'm not killing

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<v Speaker 1>animals ever again. But anyway, back to the story. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's walking up the trail and this thing is

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<v Speaker 1>tracking him. Whenever it is he gets to the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the trail. After about that fifteen minute walk, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still light out right. But when he so this trail,

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<v Speaker 1>the one from that grass filled out by the highway

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<v Speaker 1>leading into this like cul de sac clearing inside the forest,

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<v Speaker 1>that trail was at a slight decline to where at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of it and at the top of it

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a difference in elevation. It's not huge,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's enough to where if you're driving up this

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<v Speaker 1>trail you can't see over it in your car or

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<v Speaker 1>on foot until you're at the top of it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you can see the horizon and everything else. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>walking up a hill, right. So my dad gets to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that hill where that gate was going

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<v Speaker 1>into this path, and immediately he stops, and he's stunned

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<v Speaker 1>because there's these two orange balls of fire in the horizon,

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<v Speaker 1>these massive orange balls. They look like the setting sun,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them did, but the sun wasn't there. They

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<v Speaker 1>were orbs. There were orbs of light, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad has freaked out. He turns to run, but

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<v Speaker 1>then he looks back one more time, and a third

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<v Speaker 1>one shoots there, and next thing he remembers, he's back

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<v Speaker 1>at the campfire, so he's like, you know, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>clear on all the details. He's walking back to the

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<v Speaker 1>campfire and he's thinking, oh my god, I gotta find

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Junior. I got to tell him what I just saw.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna come back to this. But he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being missing at that point for four hours, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's important for later. And if you want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about that, go and listen to I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what it is. We just recently did

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<v Speaker 1>a re recording of it, of my dad's first regression,

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<v Speaker 1>which covers the material of what happened during those missing

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. But I'm going to talk about it too.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, he gets back to the campfire and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>looking for Chris Junior. Where's Chris Junior? Where's Chris Junior?

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<v Speaker 1>The other three guys, which were grown men. Junior was

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<v Speaker 1>only seventeen, but the other three grown men are like,

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<v Speaker 1>where the hell have you been? You've you've been gone

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<v Speaker 1>for hours. We've been looking for you for hours. And

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's like, there's no way, I've only been gone for

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty minutes, you know, fifteen thirty minutes. And the

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<v Speaker 1>truck was in a different spot, the fire was out,

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<v Speaker 1>everything was re arranged. Dad couldn't connect in his mind

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<v Speaker 1>that he was gone for four hours. He couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It took him a long time to accept that after

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all of the details. What's the number four we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the regression material of Dad's missing four hours, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Dad at the time couldn't accept that he was

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<v Speaker 1>just missing for four hours. He had a block in

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<v Speaker 1>his memory, right, and he's just not processing what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, where's my son. I need to find

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<v Speaker 1>my son. I need to tell him. And he starts

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<v Speaker 1>walking into the woods. They're like, he was over there

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<v Speaker 1>last time we saw him. He's been gone for hours too.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad walks over to the woods and I'm gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>basically say that. Chris Junior comes out of the woods

416
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.559
<v Speaker 1>at that moment and they're both screaming at each other. Basically,

417
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I just saw UFOs and juniors, like I just saw

418
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>aliens and and and the three contractor guys are like, hey,

419
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, at first, they're thinking maybe it's a prank.

420
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:42.400
<v Speaker 1>They're like, this isn't funny. So shifting gears in that

421
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>four hours of time that dad was missing. Chris Junior

422
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>was in the forest, and he was for about two hours.

423
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 1>He was face to face with these two three to

424
00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:06.519
<v Speaker 1>four foot tall translucent beings and they were like cloaked,

425
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so they were sort of dark, but they cast a

426
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>shadow on the ground. And they had these red eyes

427
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that if you're watching the video, they would blink like shutters.

428
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>They would blink one after the other. And they had

429
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.519
<v Speaker 1>a triangle on their chest, and they were translucent so

430
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you could see through them right. But he always said

431
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>their color was like the glow of the pale moon.

432
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>My dad and my brother would always say they glowed

433
00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>like the pale moon. At any given point in this

434
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>two hour time, Junior would be staring at one in

435
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.519
<v Speaker 1>its eyes, making eye contact, and he couldn't move, He

436
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't scream, he couldn't do anything. He was just stuck.

437
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.079
<v Speaker 1>And the other being would be walking around picking up sticks,

438
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.599
<v Speaker 1>picking up bottle caps, looking at it. He's just kind

439
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of investigating, just looking around like a curious child, almost

440
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like ooh, you know, mountain dew bottle. He's just picking

441
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>up things and looking at him. And one of them

442
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was staring at Chris Junior in the eyes, the whole time,

443
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and Junior couldn't do anything. By the time Dad comes

444
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>back down and he's like, where's Chris Junior. And he

445
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>gets close to the woods where Junior was and he

446
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>starts yelling Junior. The beings, whatever hold they had on

447
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jr. It broke and they dove into these sticks

448
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and they went invisible and disappeared, and Chris Jr. Like

449
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>snapped too, and he could move and he turned to

450
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>go run and run to Dad. But he always told

451
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 1>me that he turned to look back, or he just

452
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, somehow or another. Before Dad actually walked up

453
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to him, he saw one of the little pairs of

454
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 1>red eyes was still looking at him from the bundles

455
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 1>of sticks, like they were still there. He could still

456
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.799
<v Speaker 1>see them, and he turned and he runs the Dad

457
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and then he's like I just saw these aliens, these

458
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>monsters or whatever he said, and he's freaking out. He's hysterical.

459
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like he's in a crisis mode. And Dad's like,

460
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I just saw these UFOs, And you know, these contractor

461
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>guys are not thinking this is very funny. I mean,

462
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they're starting to really freak out, and they all start

463
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to argue and there's like chaos settling in and then

464
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>one of them shouts, look and they look up in

465
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the sky and there were these nine lights. They thought

466
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>they were stars. They were just there, these white lights.

467
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 1>And then they start scrambling around and doing all these

468
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>weird patterns in the sky really rapidly, and one of

469
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 1>them just shoots down to the other side of the

470
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Cape Fair River, just like shoots down and it stops

471
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 1>hovering over the water like the bank where on the

472
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So if you think about the width of the Cape

473
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Fair River, it's maybe like fifty yards or something, right

474
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 1>at least this part in Fayeville. It's actually bigger here

475
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>in Wilmington, this specific park, but this part in Fayeville

476
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's like fifty yards. So on the other side

477
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 1>of that of the river, there's another bank over there,

478
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>in another set of forest. This light shoots down, it

479
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 1>hovers over that, and then it goes into the forest

480
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and they can see it glowing in the forest, and

481
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>they're all like, let's get out of here. So they

482
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>all get in the truck. They all came in and

483
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Dad's truck. Later, the contractor guys, actually we found this

484
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 1>out because they told the Discovery Channel when they came.

485
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>You have to understand that in a night like this,

486
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 1>with five different people having five different sets of eyeballs

487
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 1>seeing different angles, when you're like you're freaking out and

488
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what's happening, there is no possible way

489
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that all the details can come out in that moment.

490
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>But later in the investigation, when those guys were being

491
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>pressed and investigated and investigated, they multiple of them corroborated

492
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 1>that when the truck was starting to pull out, they

493
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 1>saw one of those short beings run on all fours,

494
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>jump and grab the bed of the truck and then

495
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>disappear and go it visible. My dad didn't see that.

496
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 1>He was driving, he was getting out of there. The

497
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>other guys they saw it, and they told that that's

498
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 1>how we found out. We were like, whoa we did?

499
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>We didn't know that. Junior Dad didn't see that, you

500
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So it was just crazy what

501
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 1>came out from this night as it went on. So

502
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 1>back to the present, right, they're driving out of the

503
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>out of the forest down into that tight, like really

504
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.839
<v Speaker 1>narrow dirt and mud trail up that incline to get

505
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 1>back up to that gate to where they can get

506
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>back to the highway and get the hell out of

507
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 1>there and get everybody home. And by the time they

508
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>get to that part where the gate is, which is

509
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>like where Dad first saw the balls of fire, I

510
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 1>did say that a third one shot up, right, I'm

511
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure I did, like when Dad first saw. But

512
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 1>when they got to that spot, Dad always said it

513
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>was like dukes of hazard, like you've ever seen the

514
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 1>dukes of Hazzard when the car goes up and then

515
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 1>it like it gets airtime when it's driving over these

516
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>ramps and stuff. He drives a truck up that thing,

517
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>he said they dukes of hazard. It like literally tires

518
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>off the ground, like getting out of there as fast

519
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 1>as they could. And then he gets on the ground

520
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>and he slams on his brakes because one of those

521
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>big white balls of light, like the same one that

522
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 1>shot down to the other side of the river, it

523
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 1>was hovering over the path on the road like ground level.

524
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 1>This thing is like forty foot long, dude, just massive.

525
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Dad always describes it as an egg shape or a

526
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>teardrop shape or a football, just something kind of ovular

527
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and having these spikes of light coming off of it

528
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and they spin around and they rotate these spikes of light.

529
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>The Discovery Channel did a kind of crappy rendition of it,

530
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>but this was back in two thousand and eight, and

531
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, anyway, it was all based on how Dad

532
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 1>described the shape of it, right, But they even on

533
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the Discovery Channel they animated it kind of like a

534
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 1>tiktack with these spikes of light off of it, because

535
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that's how Dad described it, that's how he drew it.

536
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>This thing was sitting there, hovering on the path in

537
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 1>front of his truck, and they all just kind of

538
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 1>froze and they're like, you know, what's it going to do?

539
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And it starts to lift and hover up over the truck.

540
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Dad said it was so close he could have hit it.

541
00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 1>That truck had a sunroof. He could have hit it

542
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>with a slingshot out of his sun roof. It just

543
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 1>hovered up over the truck and it just went away.

544
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Before they hit the highway, there was a trailer nearby

545
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>of somebody that they knew, and they saw that the

546
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>cars were home and the lights were on, and I remember,

547
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say his name, but one of

548
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the contractor guys in particular, I used to and The

549
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>only reason I won't say his name is out of disrespect.

550
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>If you want to know his name, it's on the

551
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Discovery Channel documentary. All three of those guys are on there.

552
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>But one of these guys in particular was always really

553
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>really nice to me as a child, and I was

554
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the same age as basically two of his kids, and

555
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 1>we were in school together, so we would before this

556
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 1>UFO event, I would kind of be around them quite

557
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 1>a bit because you know, they worked with my dad.

558
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I remember this one, one of those three contractors.

559
00:31:53.920 --> 00:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember him telling me personally that night that before

560
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>they hit the highway, they pulled over to that trailer

561
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 1>and they looked inside. The door was open, and you

562
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Speaker 1>know how you have like a front door, and then

563
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you have like a storm door that's like the glass

564
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>door that's really thin, and you can kind of keep

565
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the other door open open and the when closed, you

566
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So the storm door was closed

567
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and the main door was open, and he said that

568
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the couple was sitting on their sofa staring at the

569
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>TV just like zombies, like not doing anything, not moving,

570
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and they're banging on the door. Hey, hey, hey, help us,

571
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, something's happening out here. They're banging on the door,

572
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and they said that this couple that they knew. They're

573
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>yelling their names. This is a small community out in

574
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the country, right, he's he's banging on the door. Hey,

575
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 1>they're just sitting there like this, like just staring at

576
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the TV. He said. He said, they were like they

577
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>were like in a trance or something. They were like hypnotized,

578
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 1>like they weren't listening to me. So they kind of realized,

579
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not responsive. They went, they got in

580
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 1>their truck and then they start driving off. Right. It's

581
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>my dad's struck. He's driving. They get about a mile

582
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>around the road. They're all fighting about who gets to

583
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 1>see their wife and children one last time before the

584
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 1>end of the world, because they're thinking it's an alien invasion.

585
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 1>We live out near Fort Bragg, which was only twenty

586
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 1>miles from this spot that they were at, which is

587
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>like literally the biggest military base in the world, home

588
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:30.079
<v Speaker 1>of Special Forces Airborne, you know, special ops, all this stuff.

589
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 1>So and there's an Air Force base attached too. So

590
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>they're sitting here thinking where are the fighter jets, where

591
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>are the black Hawks, where are the apaches? Like, what

592
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's gonna be here any second, Right, it's

593
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the end of the world. I want to go see

594
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>my wife who kids one the last time. They're all

595
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>fighting grown men. They're like hysteric, like, I want to

596
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>go home first. So finally they settle on that right,

597
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 1>and they're driving around the corner and they get to

598
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the spot where my father's wife died in his arms

599
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three. She had a car accident. It was

600
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a dead man's curve. Lots of people have died there.

601
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>My dad and his wife got in a fight. They

602
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.159
<v Speaker 1>were in separate cars, right, They were at a hunting

603
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 1>club and they got in a fight. She sped off.

604
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Dad gets in the car to take after. It's dark.

605
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>It's in the country. It's not like lights around and stuff.

606
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>It's really dark out there. And he rounds this dead

607
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>man's curve and he sees there's a flipped car in

608
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>this person's yard. And Dad's not thinking it's his wife.

609
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>He's thinking, oh, no, someone's hurt. I got to help him.

610
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the tires are still spinning, the headlights

611
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>are beaming. It's this car is like upside down. And

612
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 1>he goes and he stumbles on her body and it

613
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 1>was his wife, and she died in his arms twenty

614
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>one years old, nineteen eighty three. Very significant trauma in

615
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>my father's life, all right, went so back to the

616
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven incident. They're leaving the Cape Fair

617
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 1>River from where you drive in and everything. He gets

618
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>them out down the road and he stops, like, no

619
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>stop sign earth. He just stops on the highway because

620
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>a huge craft is hovering directly over the spot where

621
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>she died in his arms in nineteen eighty three. And

622
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 1>immediately Dad said, for the first time in his life,

623
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it like it flooded into him. He had this feeling

624
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 1>of like, no more guilt, that she was okay, that

625
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 1>it was he didn't have to be haunted by the

626
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>burden of it's my fault. He had these sensations of

627
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:48.519
<v Speaker 1>like she's at peace, it's okay for the first time

628
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>since nineteen eighty three, seeing that craft over where she

629
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>died in his arms. Right, so right then he and

630
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>also his attitude had shifted. I'm gonna get more into

631
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that in a bit. He wasn't afraid like the other guys.

632
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 1>He was at peace. That's why he stopped on the brakes.

633
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 1>That's why he didn't, you know, trying to drive around

634
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the thing when it was blocking path. He wanted to

635
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>see it. He was looking at it like he wasn't afraid.

636
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>He was at peace. And so they get everybody home,

637
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>My dad and my brother get home. My grandmother on

638
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 1>my mother's side, God bless her. She has been a

639
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>widow since nineteen ninety four, and she doesn't like to

640
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 1>be alone in her home. It's just a thing. She

641
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like to be alone at night. So a lot

642
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 1>of people in our family will take shifts and they'll

643
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 1>stay with her. Oh, you know, so and so is

644
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.280
<v Speaker 1>out of town for the week because because my uncle

645
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>lives with her still, right so if he's out of

646
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 1>town hunting or something like that, he's going on a

647
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>fishing trip somewhere to be Sometimes it'll be like, well,

648
00:36:58.760 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll go stay with her, you know what I mean,

649
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 1>And we would take shifts. We have a big family,

650
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and everyone like loves her grandma and wants to, you know,

651
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 1>help her and be there for So that particular weekend,

652
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 1>my mother, my other brother, Jeremy, myself, and my sister

653
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 1>we were all at her house. We were all staying

654
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>at her house this weekend, so my dad and my

655
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>brother had our house alone. They get home that night

656
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to an empty house. They start locking all the doors,

657
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>shutting all the windows. They're grabbing all the firearms, the rifles,

658
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the shotguns, and they're like posting up and Dad's turning

659
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>on the news. He's waiting to see it's the end

660
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of the world. Nothing. There's nothing on the news, not

661
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 1>talks of UFOs, not talks of you know, the air

662
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>force mobilizing. Nothing, And he always thought that was so crazy,

663
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>like how is nobody talking about this? You know what

664
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean? And the dogs start barking. My next door

665
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>neighbor was my father's parents, my grandma and my grandpa,

666
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the Bloodsos. When we lost everything when we went bankrupt

667
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and had to move across town, we took this trailer

668
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 1>from our cousin's house and moved it to my grandfather's yard.

669
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>He lived on six acres out in the country, so

670
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>we put our trailer on his yard and then spent

671
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.679
<v Speaker 1>every weekend after school for however many months I don't remember.

672
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I was twelve, but we added onto this trailer so

673
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 1>we were literally next do our neighbors with my grandfather,

674
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 1>we were on his land, so he had this massive

675
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>hunting kennel that was like an l shape with like

676
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty hounds, you know, and our whole family,

677
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the Bloodsoe's, all of our extended relatives. They would store

678
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>their hunting hounds and my grandpa's kennel in the backyard.

679
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>They were like the extended Bloodshoe family's hunting hounds, right,

680
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of them, and later five

681
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 1>years later, this exact kennel would be where Dad first

682
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 1>saw the lady. And we'll talk about that in the future.

683
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so all those hounds are just they're freaking out, dude.

684
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you get to know hounds when you

685
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.639
<v Speaker 1>especially you hear them all the time and they're in

686
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 1>your yard and you're like kind of one with the

687
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>way that they they bark and they think. And this

688
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 1>was a weird, a weird uh night because they were

689
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 1>going berserk. So my Dad's like, oh crap, someone's out there.

690
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Someone's gonna you know, break into the shed and steal something.

691
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Were you gonna say something?

692
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can tell. I mean, even if you have

693
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 2>a dog at home, you can tell the difference in

694
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the way that they bark. Yeah, you know, right, there's

695
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>real danger versus right the maleman.

696
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, imagine twenty right. You know, So my dad's

697
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 1>thinking someone's out there robbing the shed. He's not thinking

698
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 1>there's a glowing being. He's not thinking that. He's like,

699
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go out there. And Junior's like, no, no, no, Dad,

700
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 1>don't go out there. Don't go out there, please. And

701
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Dad's like, I got to that's you know, my dad's

702
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>tools are over there in the shad or his boat

703
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was at the time, you know. And

704
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>so Junior didn't want to be alone, so he goes

705
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>with Dad and we our personal family. My dog, it

706
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>was actually my dog. Her name was Rose. She was

707
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a chest peak Baar retriever. Have you ever seen one

708
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>of them? Imagine a lab but like twice as big,

709
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 1>like not lengthen height, but just like bulky, like stocky.

710
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 1>They're thick, muscular dogs. If Labrador retrievers their original like

711
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>design of their breaed, like what they do is you know,

712
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 1>if you think about the instincts of a dog, they're

713
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 1>water dogs. Right, you shoot a duck, they jump in

714
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the water, they grab the duck, they bring it back.

715
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 1>That's a Labrador retriever. Chest Peak Bay Retriever were for

716
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.159
<v Speaker 1>bigger birds like geese. They're big, strong, stocky dogs. Dude,

717
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you could you could drop a cinder block at the

718
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.159
<v Speaker 1>bottom of a pond and that chest Peak could go

719
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 1>down and get it and bring it back. Rose was

720
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 1>a big She was a big girl. And anyway, so Dad,

721
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Dad takes Rose and he takes Junior, and they're like,

722
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, going to the to the the backyard to investigate,

723
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 1>see what's happening. So by the time they get around

724
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to the kennel in my grandfather's backyard, they go in.

725
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>There's these woods in our backyards separating my yard at

726
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the time, in my grandfather's yard there was woods even

727
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 1>in our yard. I lived basically on a property with forest,

728
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and I were playing it all the time as a kid.

729
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 1>And they start walking in these woods in our backyard

730
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 1>and Dad's like, I'm gonna send rows after it. Whatever

731
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 1>whatever is back there, I'm gonna send rows after it.

732
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>You and I will run around the forest into our

733
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>yard and the clearing and we'll go left and we'll

734
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 1>trap it, and Rose will lead out whoever's trying to

735
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 1>break to our shed. She would lead him out to us,

736
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 1>and Dad kind of like taps rows, like you know,

737
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>go get him, and she runs through the bushes through

738
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the trees. He and Junior start running out of the

739
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>forest into our backyard, and then Dad takes a left

740
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to run another fifty or so yards to the edge

741
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 1>of our property. He looks back, Junior's running towards the

742
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>house like he just was at his limit. He couldn't

743
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>take it anymore. So Dad runs to the back of

744
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the property and he goes back into the forest. At

745
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 1>the edge of the property, it's kind of like our

746
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>property was like a U shape, but if you think

747
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of like the center of the U was still our

748
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 1>property and it was all forest, right, but then make

749
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that like a really big U six acres, so it

750
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 1>was like our yard, my grandfather's yard. And then in

751
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>between our backyards was this thick forest. So like they're

752
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>at this part, he sends the dog through the forest

753
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and then he's like running around to go back to

754
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>this part of the forest. Something's in here in the fore,

755
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying. So by the time Dad

756
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 1>gets around to the other spot, he stops and there's

757
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the same being that my brother saw in the Cape

758
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>River that night that was three to four foot tall

759
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>with the red eyes, the triangle translucent glows like the

760
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 1>pill moon. Dad stops and he says, you got me,

761
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I surrender, and the being told him telepathically, didn't move

762
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>his mouth, that just thought it into his mind. You

763
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. We're not here to hurt you. We're here

764
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to help you. And then my dad turns back and

765
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.199
<v Speaker 1>walks to the house because well, let me just say,

766
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Rose comes to the forest. By the time she gets

767
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 1>to that point, the being disappeared. It just went invisible.

768
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 1>And then Rose was at him and it was like,

769
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was gone. He goes back to the house, right,

770
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 1>he goes to look one more time. He doesn't talk

771
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>about this much, but these are things I don't forget.

772
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>He looks out the blinds one more time in the

773
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 1>direction of my grandfather's yard. He opens the blinds and

774
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a being that was eight to nine foot

775
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>tall walking towards him. And he closed the blinds and

776
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.159
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I've had enough. There was a being in

777
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 1>the yard, you know, walking towards his window. But this

778
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>one was really tall, really really kind of more scary looking,

779
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and then a night or two later, I want to

780
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>say it was two nights later, there was another incident,

781
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and this closes out the initial two thousand and seven chapter,

782
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to talk about some important things surrounding that, right,

783
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 1>But so I want to say it was two nights later,

784
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in that first week one hundred percent though, And

785
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that starts seeing a light in the backyard, like in

786
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 1>the woods, this glowing light, and he's like, enough, I'm

787
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna put an end to this so that my son

788
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 1>isn't suffering. I don't want him being in fear of

789
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:16.199
<v Speaker 1>this anymore. So he grabs his rifle. He goes out

790
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of the back door, and this time it's in the

791
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>back of our property. To the right, at our property line,

792
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>there was this fence and it was our neighbor's yard

793
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 1>and they had like goats and chickens, a little kind

794
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of farm backyard. And in their yard wasn't that big.

795
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was pretty big. It was a couple

796
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of acres, but past their property line was a massive

797
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree farm. Now it's all houses, unfortunately, it's all suburbs,

798
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>but back then it was a Christmas tree farm. So, right,

799
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 1>from our backyard, we could see the Christmas Tree farm.

800
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>So he's at the edge of our property. There's this

801
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>glowing light somewhere in that Christmas Tree farm. So he

802
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>gets to the back of our property. He starts to

803
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>he puts his rifle on the ground. It gets like

804
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he starts army crawling under these bushes, under these shrubs

805
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 1>to go past our property line into this forest. He

806
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 1>gets through it. He has his rifle in his hand.

807
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>He gets up, he starts walking through this forest, and

808
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>then he comes face to face with one of those

809
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>glowing beings again, three to four foot tall, the glowing

810
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>red eyes, trying ale on his chest, the same one.

811
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>And Dad was like he just dropped his rifle and

812
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.639
<v Speaker 1>it was like beamed into him telepathically that it just

813
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>changed him immediately. It was this transference or a knowing

814
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 1>of a different way of life, and it basically was

815
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that all life is sacred, and it was like they

816
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>communicated to him instantaneously telepathically, like you know, not to

817
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>harm living beings, to be compassionate for all life, to

818
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 1>understand the suffering of others, and to not add to

819
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the suffering of others. And it just dramatically changed him,

820
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.159
<v Speaker 1>changed his personality, like instantly, he stopped hunting. He never

821
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>hunted again. He won't hurt bugs. There's snakes in her yard,

822
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:10.360
<v Speaker 1>He'll scoop them up. He'll put him in a bucket.

823
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.159
<v Speaker 1>He'll drive him a few miles away, and he'll drop

824
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 1>him off like he won't kill him. He won't kill

825
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 1>anything after that moment, And that was the conclusion of

826
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the original two thousand and seventh thing, like the Cape

827
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Fair River event or whatever. But after that was really

828
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>where the chaos began to settle in because my poor father,

829
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.639
<v Speaker 1>having a truthful event, decides, I'm gonna go tell everybody

830
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they can they'll believe him. No one did except for

831
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>his children. Everybody thought he was crazy. Everybody thought he

832
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>had lost his mind. And remember, just a few years before,

833
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 1>he was poisoned by a psychotic doctor who also, by

834
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the way, that psychotic doctor ended up dying on the

835
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>same medications he prescribed my father. He was like psycho

836
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he had. My father was one hundred and thirteenth hospitalized

837
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 1>patient from this doctor and he actually ended up dying

838
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>on the same medley he prescribed to my father. And

839
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 1>in that time that my father was on those drugs

840
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>just years before from the doctor. It made him lose

841
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 1>his mind. This was years before, right, So people in

842
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the family are already like, oh, he's lost his mind again.

843
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, he's crazy because he starts saying, hey,

844
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I saw these glowing beings, I saw these lights. Well,

845
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>they thought he was on drugs. They thought he was

846
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 1>dealing with satan. They thought he was crazy. They thought

847
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 1>he was lying. They thought it was just a big

848
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.559
<v Speaker 1>hoax and that he's just making it up. They said everything,

849
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 1>everything except wow, Chris, tell me more about it, like

850
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>what happened? You know, I really believe you believe you

851
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 1>saw this? None of that, not a shred of compassion.

852
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.559
<v Speaker 1>It was all just like, you're crazy, you know, Lock

853
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>him up, take his kids. That was the reaction. Social

854
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 1>services were called. My father and my mother were constantly

855
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>on the brink of their marriage collapsing because of this,

856
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>because my mother would brutally silence any talk about this

857
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 1>for years, like years and years, still gets uncomfortable talking

858
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.280
<v Speaker 1>about it sometimes, but she's a lot better, and she's

859
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>more or less a part of this now. And it's

860
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 1>like that was eighteen years ago, right, and all is forgiven.

861
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>But initially she was very much like this is evil,

862
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>this is demonic. She was calling the preacher. The preacher

863
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 1>came to my house and was like putting holy oil

864
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:34.559
<v Speaker 1>on my dad and was like trying to exercise the

865
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 1>devil out of him and pray Satan out of him.

866
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know, my grandparents on both sides said they

867
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>were liars, said they were crazy. All of our aunts

868
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and uncles, all of our cousins, everybody turned on my father.

869
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>He was the laughing stock of the town. He was

870
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.679
<v Speaker 1>the crazy guy, the pariah. And for ten months, this

871
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 1>initial reaction from family and friends in our community was

872
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 1>so brutal that my dad locked himself in the room.

873
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>And actually it was about two years that he was

874
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a recluse, and he really didn't come out of his

875
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>room much. He wouldn't go next door to his own

876
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 1>parents' house for Christmas parties or birthday parties for years

877
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and anyway, so you know, it all happened January oh seven.

878
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>There was so much ridicule and fear and torture and

879
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 1>social services coming and all these things that my dad

880
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>was so like unsure of, like how to proceed with this. Well,

881
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>one night we were watching TV, my dad and I

882
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of my other siblings. It's hard to

883
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:44.440
<v Speaker 1>remember exactly who I mean. I was only like thirteen

884
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 1>fourteen at the time, but we were watching TV and

885
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>we became obsessed over that ten month period with watching

886
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>those UFO shows of the mid two thousands. They were

887
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.320
<v Speaker 1>UFO Files and UFO Hunters, you can look them up.

888
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, they were constantly playing History Channel

889
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 1>and this maybe Discovery Channel, I'm not sure, but there

890
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 1>were these really cheesy like UFO kind of like the

891
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 1>what was that show with taps the ghost I think

892
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it was called Ghosts something I don't don't remember, but

893
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.440
<v Speaker 1>they had one like that, but it was UFOs, right,

894
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 1>So we would watch them every night. We're thinking, maybe

895
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:23.519
<v Speaker 1>there will be some information about what happened to us

896
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>or something. And this one night in particular, on UFO Files,

897
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>there was this thing on the bottom of the screen,

898
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you know how like if you're watching some reality show,

899
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>there will be a little line pop at the bottom

900
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be like, you know, Johnny twenty seven years

901
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>old dentist, you know what I mean, Like a little

902
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 1>text blurb kind of thing that popped up on this

903
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 1>UFO show, and it said if you have had a

904
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>sighting reported at uf mofon www. Dot mofon dot com

905
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 1>mutual UFO network. So ten months after his initial sighting,

906
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>he finally reported it. Very quickly, move On was calling.

907
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>They were actually calling us, and Dad didn't think anybody

908
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>would call it all or that anyone would ever see it.

909
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 1>He just wanted to get it off his chest and

910
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.559
<v Speaker 1>tell somebody who he honestly hoped no one would ever

911
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>even see it. You know, it was just something me

912
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>saw on TV. He's like, my wife doesn't want to

913
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.320
<v Speaker 1>hear about it. I'm not allowed to talk about it

914
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 1>in front of my kids. My parents think I'm crazy.

915
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.199
<v Speaker 1>No one's listening to me. I got to tell somebody

916
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 1>this thing on TV, said, go to moufon dot com.

917
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 1>They they listen to people that see UFOs, right, they'll listen.

918
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>But also I don't even want them to see it.

919
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 1>I just want to get it off my chest. That

920
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.199
<v Speaker 1>was his thinking. He reported it at moufon dot com. Boom,

921
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they're calling. We're gonna mail you something. We want you

922
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 1>to draw diagrams of what you drew or of what

923
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you saw, and you know, write descriptions and you know,

924
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.679
<v Speaker 1>type more details about your story kind of thing, and

925
00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that very quickly snowballed with them being immediately enter sitting

926
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 1>us to the very next year, June and July of

927
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, they were on our property with

928
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the Discovery Channel filming a documentary. So think about that.

929
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>October two thousand and seven, he goes to that website

930
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 1>mufon dot Com reports it boom. It's like eight months later,

931
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a TV crew at our house. I'm fourteen, you

932
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, and I'm in high school and

933
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 1>these people are coming. Oh yeah, Hollywood's coming. Woh, there's

934
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a cool right, And the Mufon people basically told us,

935
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna vindicate you to the world. You're

936
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be heroes. We're gonna go and tell everybody the

937
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 1>truth of what you experienced, and we're gonna make sure

938
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 1>that you know you have support and that you're believed.

939
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And they promised my parents that they would give counseling

940
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to the children, that they would counsel us for the

941
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 1>grief and the ridicule, the trauma of everything that we experienced,

942
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.119
<v Speaker 1>and they were just like, we're gonna help you, we're

943
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>on your side with this. And in their investigation they

944
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 1>found a lot of data. They knew for a fact

945
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that it was like a They were like, it's a

946
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>CE four abduction case. We're like, what the hell does

947
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that mean? CEE four Close encounters are the fourth kind?

948
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.920
<v Speaker 1>You ever seen the movie CEE three Close Encounters of

949
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the Third Kind, the Steven Spielberg movie. D I was like, yeah,

950
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I love that movie. Okay, see four Close Encounters of

951
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the fourth kind. CEE E three means you see something

952
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 1>in the sky. This was their terminology. It's all bullshit, right,

953
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>but this is like wacko ufo shit. But they're like,

954
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>CE three encounter means you see something in the sky.

955
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.840
<v Speaker 1>CEE four means you've been abducted. You've you know, you've

956
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>had a face to face encounter with an alien. And

957
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 1>we're like, whoa. That's how they were codifying it back

958
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:54.679
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven, right, And basically they said

959
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 1>they knew we were telling the truth one thousand percent.

960
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>They knew from the moment they got the report that

961
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 1>it was true because the exact I saw the photos, dude,

962
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't forget you. Hear my brother, and here last

963
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>week recording with us saying, man, when you were a kid,

964
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 1>you would read a book a day and you would

965
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 1>never forget a word. Or these dummies didn't think that

966
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Chris Bledsoe's kids were listening to everything and remembering all

967
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>this and cataloging it and then someday go and you know,

968
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>tell it to the world and tell on them. They

969
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't know he had smart kids. But I saw the pictures.

970
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw them myself. They had eyewitness accounts from nineteen

971
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:44.679
<v Speaker 1>fifty two of these exact beings in craft over the

972
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>White House that was shown to me. I later found

973
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>out this individual was in the CIA. I'll get more

974
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 1>into that later and the next part to the Bletsoe

975
00:55:56.679 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>family story. He was CIA. The other guy was in

976
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>another intelligence agency that is very similar to the CIA.

977
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Not sure if I should say, but it's very similar.

978
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say, you know, it rhymes, and it's just

979
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>some intelligence agency. And both of these guys were installed

980
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 1>under the guise of move On being this like civilian,

981
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:26.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, private volunteer agency. Really it was a CIA

982
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.760
<v Speaker 1>op to smear our family and make us look like

983
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>liars and like we're crazy h And that was confirmed

984
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to me by the guy who actually runs the program.

985
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>This by program for the CIA, and his name is

986
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Jim Simmeiban. He told me that to my face that

987
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:51.079
<v Speaker 1>he felt very sorry because back when our story first

988
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 1>broke that this was a very highly classified subject and

989
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it was the way that it had to be handled.

990
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>So some low level spooks were sent to our family.

991
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 1>To his words, was to do a hack job on

992
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>our family with the documentary and make us look like

993
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 1>liars and look crazy. So anyway, so back to the present,

994
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 1>right in two thousand and eight, so it's June. These

995
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.400
<v Speaker 1>people are here. They're literally intelligence agency plants, which we

996
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that for many years. We just thought they were,

997
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, these dorks from Moufon who were here to

998
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:22.840
<v Speaker 1>do an investigation. And then you had the history, I

999
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.239
<v Speaker 1>mean the not history, I'm sorry, the Discovery Channel crew,

1000
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and they were fine. They were just like, oh wow,

1001
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Bob Wiseman, you made Deadliest Catch. That was the guy

1002
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 1>who was at our house doing the document We were

1003
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like wowed by that. My dad loved Deadliest Catch and

1004
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.159
<v Speaker 1>also a nice guy. He was a nice guy. I

1005
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 1>don't think he was complicit in some grand screen scheme,

1006
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, what I mean. I think he was making

1007
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:49.199
<v Speaker 1>a show. He was just making a show, and it

1008
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>was you know, these move on guys that were doing

1009
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the dirty work. Bob was a great guy. I have

1010
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 1>nothing bad to say. I'm just we were wow and

1011
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you made Deadliest Catch.

1012
00:57:58.559 --> 00:57:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I love that show.

1013
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're making a show about it. You know,

1014
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 1>we were so we were so naive. We had no

1015
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>clue what they were doing. And they were making all

1016
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>these promises about you know, you're gonna you're gonna be heroes,

1017
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.559
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be vindicated to the world. Meanwhile, they're showing

1018
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 1>us the radiation samples they're finding in our yard from

1019
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>where craft and interdimensional beings have materialized in our yard.

1020
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>We were telling them this that we're seeing things there,

1021
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 1>and the experience has never stopped. After the original event

1022
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven, it only increased. Right, my

1023
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>mom is seeing beings in the yard, my brother's seeing

1024
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 1>beings in the yard. I'm seeing beings in the yard,

1025
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 1>in the house, even we're all seeing them in the house,

1026
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>in the yard, all around, orders in the sky, craft

1027
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>coming down, We're seeing crazy stuff. It never stopped. Year

1028
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 1>of a year, it increased, and we're telling them these things.

1029
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 1>So they're going in. They're like taking freaking Geiger counters.

1030
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what those are, right, the little things that

1031
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>beep near atomic blast sights because of radiation from atom bombs.

1032
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.079
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, chernobyl radiation. They're finding radiation

1033
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in our yard interdimensional beings and craft that never made

1034
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it on TV. What a shame, right, They're finding radiation

1035
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 1>samples on the tree where the interdimensional being was standing.

1036
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.079
<v Speaker 1>The tree was turning orange, it was mutating, it was

1037
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:21.119
<v Speaker 1>dying because the being stood there and it radiated the tree.

1038
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 1>They're showing us this, they're breaking it down, they're showing

1039
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 1>us the data. None of that made the TV. None

1040
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:31.119
<v Speaker 1>of it. What made the TV was they faked a

1041
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:33.960
<v Speaker 1>light detector tests to make us look like that was lying.

1042
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And what they did was they brought on some guy

1043
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:40.239
<v Speaker 1>from the FBI. Let's just I don't know the exact

1044
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 1>day because this was two thousand and eight, right, and

1045
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid and memory is fuzzy, but let's

1046
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.639
<v Speaker 1>just pretend it was a Friday, and you know, the

1047
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Discovery Channel and the mofon crew they're like, hey, Friday,

1048
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna you know, the show's going to begin. We're

1049
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 1>excited to come into town. We hadn't met all of

1050
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>these people in person yet. I'm talking day one, bro,

1051
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Think about this, you're filming a documentary. They were at

1052
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>our house for at LEAs still week, okay, day one

1053
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 1>before even meeting all the Discovery people in person. They're like,

1054
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be at your house at nine thirty in

1055
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the morning, ready, ready to shoot.

1056
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yay.

1057
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.679
<v Speaker 1>We're all so excited. We spend days cleaning our house.

1058
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Mom's like buying us new clothes. We look presentable to

1059
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.159
<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood people. We're all kids. My sister's like eleven,

1060
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:28.199
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And that time, whether it

1061
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 1>was nine or nine thirty, it comes the following morning.

1062
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.719
<v Speaker 1>We're sitting around tapping our feet. We're not have smartphones,

1063
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 1>freaking two thousand and eight. We're poor, you know what

1064
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean. We're waiting to hear from a call on

1065
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the landline, like where are these people? Phone rings? Change

1066
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of plans. We need you out at the hotel off

1067
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of Highway eighty seven. Can you be here in thirty minutes?

1068
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 1>And Dad's like, oh okay, he has to drive, you know,

1069
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:55.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes away to go to this hotel. There's someone

1070
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.360
<v Speaker 1>outside with the crew. They grab Dad and they're like,

1071
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 1>come with me. They lead him to the lobby of

1072
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the hotel into this conference room, and when Dad walks

1073
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.320
<v Speaker 1>in the door, there's an FBI agent sitting there. He

1074
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>had a sling. He had like a messed up arm.

1075
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 1>He had a sling this FBI guy, old dude. There's

1076
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.800
<v Speaker 1>cameras in the room pointing at Dad. The light studio

1077
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.960
<v Speaker 1>lights just like these, they're all pointed at Dad, and

1078
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like boom, no, nice to meet you. It's he

1079
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>gets to the hotel. They say, come with me. They

1080
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:25.880
<v Speaker 1>walk him to the hotel and they sit him in

1081
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 1>this room with the FBI agent and they immediately begin

1082
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.400
<v Speaker 1>filming and it's a light detector test. And they sit

1083
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>him there for four hours and they ask him thirty

1084
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 1>questions over and over and over and over for four hours. Dude,

1085
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:43.079
<v Speaker 1>my dad was falling asleep. He was literally falling asleep.

1086
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 1>He's getting so anxious about this. After four hours, his

1087
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 1>heart did a little anxious flutter and they got a

1088
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:53.039
<v Speaker 1>little inconclusive. He's inconclusive. And they went and they took

1089
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:55.679
<v Speaker 1>that on TV and they said, actually he was being untruthful.

1090
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.760
<v Speaker 1>We have to conclude he was being untruthful. It's a rap, guys.

1091
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 1>We really wanted to believe this one, and that's how

1092
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 1>they did it. That's that's how they got the untruthful.

1093
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And if you even watch it back, my dad smiles

1094
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 1>when he hears that. He's like, I don't care what

1095
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 1>that thing said, Like, I'm telling you the truth. He

1096
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, oh got me and you know, act weird.

1097
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.039
<v Speaker 1>He was just humble about it. It's like I I

1098
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 1>if you literally watched the Discovery Channel show from two

1099
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:24.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, my dad says, I'm telling you, I

1100
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:25.639
<v Speaker 1>know what I saw, Like, I don't care what that

1101
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.360
<v Speaker 1>thing says. I know what I saw. He was humble.

1102
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.239
<v Speaker 1>He was totally humble. He was he was being honest

1103
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and they were being deceitful and it was it was

1104
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 1>really really sadistic to do that to the family, a

1105
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:44.159
<v Speaker 1>hit from the CIA to smear us and make us

1106
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 1>look crazy. Literally told to me by them, that's the

1107
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 1>craziest thing. How'd they get away with that and then

1108
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and tell me later, I'm sorry, I'm sorry we did that.

1109
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Thanks man, You know I got laughed at for school

1110
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:01.199
<v Speaker 1>or laughed at at school because of that, you know,

1111
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and my whole family was ridiculed and tortured and humiliated. Anyway,

1112
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I digress. Some other things came from that investigation, right,

1113
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:18.039
<v Speaker 1>So I say all that to talk about the dirtiness

1114
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of what they did, because that is a real part

1115
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.039
<v Speaker 1>of our story. But there was some good that came

1116
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:24.960
<v Speaker 1>from it too, and they really did find data. Sure

1117
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 1>they didn't show it, but I saw it, right, and

1118
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I never forgot it. I saw it with my own eyes.

1119
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I saw the Geiger counter in the yard. Can I

1120
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:39.960
<v Speaker 1>read the number? No. I remember a bunch of old

1121
01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:44.639
<v Speaker 1>nerds with polo shirts saying, there's radiation in your grass

1122
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 1>where the craft landed. There's radiation on the tree where

1123
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the being stood, you know what I mean. The other

1124
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.840
<v Speaker 1>thing is they brought in a very highly trained hypno

1125
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 1>hypnotic regression therapist protege of John Mack, which, if you

1126
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know John Mack, he's the most famous hypnotic regression

1127
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 1>person ever in the history of UFO subject. John Mack.

1128
01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:13.199
<v Speaker 1>He's an icon, right, there's like movies about his work.

1129
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:20.480
<v Speaker 1>So this guy, Michael O'Connell wonderful guy. He was. He

1130
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was an angel. Actually, he was the very first person

1131
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that I met in all of this that I loved

1132
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and I admired and looked up to. And he died

1133
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:36.519
<v Speaker 1>not too long after that. Otherwise, if he was alive today,

1134
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I probably would have had him on the show, you know.

1135
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.480
<v Speaker 1>He would have been an amazing guest. He was a

1136
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 1>wonderful human being. He was very kind to his children.

1137
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:44.559
<v Speaker 2>He was a.

1138
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Harvard psychologist who did hypnotic regression stuff, trained by John mack. Right.

1139
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's because of this man that I got a

1140
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 1>psychology degree. Meeting him and being fascinated by what he

1141
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:00.599
<v Speaker 1>did and the hypnosis he put my under it that

1142
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, psychology is interesting. And I grew

1143
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:04.840
<v Speaker 1>up and went to college and got a psychology degree

1144
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 1>right because of him. Side note. A few months ago,

1145
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I got a random inche to look him up on Facebook,

1146
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and or rather I became friends with somebody on Facebook.

1147
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't exactly remember, but I just remember that I

1148
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:32.079
<v Speaker 1>saw Michael O'Connell's profile on Facebook, and I saw a

1149
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:37.960
<v Speaker 1>post from like over a decade ago where he made

1150
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.679
<v Speaker 1>a reference to the Monroe's too. He taged somebody at

1151
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:42.519
<v Speaker 1>the Monroe's two. So as an adult, I was like, whoa,

1152
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:46.360
<v Speaker 1>this is so many layers of you know, full circle

1153
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.719
<v Speaker 1>here he was somehow connected to them. I had no

1154
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:52.000
<v Speaker 1>clue what the monros who was until twenty fifteen. I

1155
01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:54.360
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to make a side note there. But I'll

1156
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:57.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you this. There's a reason I said that because

1157
01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 1>when I was a fourteen year old kid and he

1158
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 1>was coming to our he became good friends of the family,

1159
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and he came over a few times after the after

1160
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the whole Discovery Channel thing and everything, they just outsourced him,

1161
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:09.559
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. He wasn't like a part

1162
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of them, kind of like how the History Channel brought

1163
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the brain science guy to read the data. This crew

1164
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:16.440
<v Speaker 1>just grabbed Michael O'Connell. They're like, we want to do

1165
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a regression. And Michael was a bubbly guy, right, So

1166
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I dude, he would not only bend spoons, he would

1167
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:34.800
<v Speaker 1>twist plastic forks. Think about that. He was an incredible guy.

1168
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:36.840
<v Speaker 1>He would take plastic forks and he would just twist

1169
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:43.039
<v Speaker 1>them up like spaghetti noodles. Just he was a powerful individual. Anyway,

1170
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:45.800
<v Speaker 1>enough about that, right, So he puts my dad under

1171
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 1>a hypnotic regression. What was that episode number from earlier?

1172
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember something like that?

1173
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so if you go look at episode like one

1174
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 1>eight three or one eighty four, he'll confirm it in

1175
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a second. The one I said at the beginning of

1176
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 1>the episode, that hypnotic regression material that you are hearing

1177
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 1>on that episode is the exact hypnotic regression that was

1178
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:16.800
<v Speaker 1>performed by this man, doctor Michael O'Connell. And that was

1179
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.679
<v Speaker 1>profound because I don't think what any of them at

1180
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.400
<v Speaker 1>this uh you know, you know, the bad actors who

1181
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:24.800
<v Speaker 1>got involved with their story. I don't think they anticipated

1182
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:28.159
<v Speaker 1>that it would have such a profound impact on my

1183
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 1>father and my family.

1184
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Four.

1185
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to write that down and remember that. But

1186
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:36.159
<v Speaker 1>three is the one with your dad, So that's good too.

1187
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh great, one eighty four. Episode one eighty four is

1188
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:44.440
<v Speaker 1>regression Part one. That was the session with Michael O'Connell

1189
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand and eight. This is the session

1190
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that they're referencing on the Discovery Channel documentary. They only

1191
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 1>show like thirty seconds of it, and it's the most crazy,

1192
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:53.760
<v Speaker 1>out of context part, like they're letting their children and

1193
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:55.920
<v Speaker 1>able to play and then it cuts to the move

1194
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.360
<v Speaker 1>on people and they're like make it a face of

1195
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like it's all acted. It was an

1196
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.440
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half session where my dad was under hypnosis,

1197
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:11.599
<v Speaker 1>and obviously we were cutting out the parts where Michael

1198
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.960
<v Speaker 1>is doing the suggestion. We're kind of like cutting out

1199
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.359
<v Speaker 1>his parts because he didn't want any of that. Editor

1200
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 1>televised that was his one condition, like you cannot air

1201
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.279
<v Speaker 1>me inducing him because it is very dangerous because it

1202
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 1>can hypnotize people at home. So they cut out all

1203
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the parts of Michael like actually, you know doing the hypnosis,

1204
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and then the transcript that I received was just Dad's words.

1205
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 1>But part of the hypnosis was releasing the mental limitations

1206
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:44.319
<v Speaker 1>on my father's mind so that he would remember everything

1207
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.920
<v Speaker 1>from this point forward. So not only would he recall

1208
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the missing four hours, but going forward there would be

1209
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 1>no more block and he would remember everything, every experience

1210
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.479
<v Speaker 1>he ever has for the rest of his life. And

1211
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it has been true. It's been so most of his

1212
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.000
<v Speaker 1>experiences now are in the conscious waking state, and they're

1213
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.239
<v Speaker 1>not like poof, he's gone for four hours. What happened, dude?

1214
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:09.079
<v Speaker 1>For that first year and a half from January, Oh,

1215
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 1>seven to the summer of eight when that crew came

1216
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and did the Discovery Channel thing and they brought Michael

1217
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.760
<v Speaker 1>O'Connell to do the regression. For a year and a half,

1218
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 1>my dad would have splitting migraines if he tried to

1219
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.520
<v Speaker 1>think about the missing four hours, and he would have nightmares,

1220
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:25.159
<v Speaker 1>and he would scream in his sleep, and he would

1221
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:28.840
<v Speaker 1>have cold sweats. My mom would record him back then

1222
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we had those, you know, those hand cameras. She would

1223
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 1>record him be screaming in his sleep. I remember it.

1224
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:36.039
<v Speaker 1>She'd be like, come here. We would all walk in

1225
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the room and he'd just be screaming about weird stuff, nightmares,

1226
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and remember, Dad couldn't process. He's like, I wasn't gone

1227
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:48.520
<v Speaker 1>four hours. And you had my brother Junior, the three contractors,

1228
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:50.800
<v Speaker 1>plus the move on people that had been coming from

1229
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, October of two thousand and eight to or

1230
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 1>seven two thousand and seven to the summer of two

1231
01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:59.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, all of these external people outside of

1232
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 1>my father being like, no, you were gone four hours.

1233
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, I wasn't. It can't be. It doesn't

1234
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.159
<v Speaker 1>make sense. And they're like, you were missing, And then

1235
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:07.640
<v Speaker 1>he would try to think about it, and sometimes he

1236
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:10.039
<v Speaker 1>would just pass out. He would get such headaches, he

1237
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:12.600
<v Speaker 1>would pass out. There was a block on his mind.

1238
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:18.359
<v Speaker 1>And then doctor O'Connell released the block and all of

1239
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the experience of his missing four hours came to him,

1240
01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:25.479
<v Speaker 1>and all of his future, his future experiences were in

1241
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the waking state. In the conscious wake state, he has

1242
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.239
<v Speaker 1>dreams too, he has visions too, things like that, but

1243
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.119
<v Speaker 1>most of it's been you know, when he's having experiences,

1244
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 1>he's awake, he's lucid, he's remembering it. So and that

1245
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 1>missing four hours, what happened? And I think this is

1246
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a great place to kind of round out the original events,

1247
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:47.199
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll come back and we'll do another part

1248
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:53.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about what happened next. In the original night of

1249
01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:57.039
<v Speaker 1>January eighth, two thousand and seven, if you guys recall

1250
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:01.880
<v Speaker 1>from earlier in the episode, Dad's alone. He's thinking the

1251
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 1>worst thoughts. He doesn't want to be around anybody and

1252
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:06.520
<v Speaker 1>bring the vibe down. So he starts walking up that trail.

1253
01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:09.119
<v Speaker 1>He gets to the top and then he sees those

1254
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:13.880
<v Speaker 1>two balls of fire. He turns to run right, and

1255
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 1>then he looks back and there's a third one. Well,

1256
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:19.720
<v Speaker 1>something I was saving to say until now, because we're

1257
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.680
<v Speaker 1>actually talking about the context of this and that moment.

1258
01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:27.520
<v Speaker 1>He was terrified, But in the moment that he returned

1259
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:31.119
<v Speaker 1>to the campfire, he wasn't afraid anymore. He was at peace,

1260
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's important. They took the fear away from him.

1261
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:38.399
<v Speaker 1>So here's what fully happened. So he sees the two

1262
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.800
<v Speaker 1>balls of fire up on the horizon, he turns to run,

1263
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.399
<v Speaker 1>he looks back. He sees a third one right the

1264
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.840
<v Speaker 1>third one. Dad knew in that moment it reacted to

1265
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 1>his thoughts and to where he was looking. He just

1266
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:53.600
<v Speaker 1>immediately knew. He was like, it's reacting to me. It's

1267
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:57.159
<v Speaker 1>conscious of me, it's aware of me. That third one

1268
01:11:57.279 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 1>came down shoots to him, like, I don't know if

1269
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it I don't remember, if it floats slowly, if it

1270
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 1>just shoots, I don't have to ask him. But the

1271
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:09.000
<v Speaker 1>third one is now from way out on the horizon,

1272
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.840
<v Speaker 1>looking like a huge row of three setting suns. Now

1273
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it's beside my father, and now it's white. In the distance,

1274
01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it was orange. When it's closer, it was white, like

1275
01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing that shot on the other side of the

1276
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Cafe River later that night, like the thing that was

1277
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.880
<v Speaker 1>blocking his truck when they were trying to leave. It's

1278
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that color, it's teardrop shaped, egg football whatever, and it

1279
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.359
<v Speaker 1>has these spikes of rotating light going around it. It

1280
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:34.840
<v Speaker 1>looks like living organic light. You could probably think it's

1281
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:37.159
<v Speaker 1>like plasma or something. I think a lot of people

1282
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 1>are pretty onto that theory that maybe it's plasma, and

1283
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:42.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe it is. I don't know, but it's this like

1284
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 1>organic looking light. And Dad even described at the tip

1285
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 1>of those tendrils, it was like full of these spiky

1286
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 1>light based tendrils. He even described that, I'm like, Dad,

1287
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:56.319
<v Speaker 1>describe it to me. What does it look like? At

1288
01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the tip of the tendrils, they were like, heg sagonal shape.

1289
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 1>There was like geometry to this thing. And he reached

1290
01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:08.840
<v Speaker 1>out and touched it, and next thing he knew, he

1291
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was in a dark room surrounded by stars. He's on

1292
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:15.039
<v Speaker 1>like a chair or a table or something, and there's

1293
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a light on him and the rest of the room

1294
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:23.840
<v Speaker 1>is dark. And the number doesn't necessarily matter. I can't

1295
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:25.640
<v Speaker 1>remember if it's three, I can't remember if it's four.

1296
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.119
<v Speaker 1>This is my father who experienced this, not me, right,

1297
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:30.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's like three or four beings and they're the

1298
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.159
<v Speaker 1>eight to nine foot tall ones that if you recall

1299
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 1>on that original night, my dad looks out the blinds

1300
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:41.039
<v Speaker 1>one more time and there's an eight to nine foot

1301
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:42.720
<v Speaker 1>tall being walking towards him and he's like, nope, man,

1302
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:47.119
<v Speaker 1>he slams the blinds. This is those guys. They're really tall.

1303
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.760
<v Speaker 1>My dad is freaking out. He's sobbing, where's my son? Please?

1304
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I need to see my son. I need to see

1305
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:56.159
<v Speaker 1>my son. And they're like calming him down. They don't

1306
01:13:56.199 --> 01:14:00.680
<v Speaker 1>move their mouth when they speak. It's telepathic. They look

1307
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of like these massive, somewhat alien beings, but they

1308
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:11.600
<v Speaker 1>had a glow. They glowed like their color was it

1309
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.159
<v Speaker 1>wasn't necessarily pale like the pale moon, like the little guys,

1310
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>but it had a bluish hue that always when we

1311
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:19.840
<v Speaker 1>were children, I'd be like, what like a shark. He's

1312
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like kind of like a shark, like a bluish gray.

1313
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>But they glowed, you know, if you think of like

1314
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:30.319
<v Speaker 1>that color. They had these big, massive eyes, but they

1315
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.119
<v Speaker 1>were kind of human like, you know, and these big

1316
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:36.680
<v Speaker 1>heads and these tiny slit mouths, and they didn't move

1317
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:39.920
<v Speaker 1>when they speak. It was all telepathic. They're really skinny,

1318
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>eight or nine feet tall, like massive giants, and they're

1319
01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:48.319
<v Speaker 1>surrounding my father, and they don't telepathically tell him, your

1320
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.039
<v Speaker 1>son is safe. We're watching over him. It's okay, we're

1321
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.760
<v Speaker 1>not gonna hurt you. We're gonna show you some things.

1322
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.439
<v Speaker 1>He's surrounded by the stars, and they basically tell him

1323
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 1>that they are the Guardians and that they serve creation,

1324
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and that they tend to life on Earth like a terrarium,

1325
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that it's an enclosed system and they keep the dark

1326
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:11.399
<v Speaker 1>forces at bay, but that they tend to our evolution.

1327
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:18.000
<v Speaker 1>That they monitor our our species so that we grow accordingly,

1328
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that we don't mutate out of control or destroy ourselves.

1329
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.359
<v Speaker 1>They keep us from destroying ourselves. They protect us not

1330
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 1>only from evil forces, but from ourselves. Even that they

1331
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.920
<v Speaker 1>created us. That's what they told him, that they created us.

1332
01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 1>And they said that the powers of the world they

1333
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.840
<v Speaker 1>showed him like the government or the military, that there's

1334
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:44.159
<v Speaker 1>just some power structure of the world. They communicated to

1335
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:46.840
<v Speaker 1>my dad that they are afraid of us and they

1336
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.680
<v Speaker 1>don't like us, but they're powerless. They can't do anything.

1337
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.439
<v Speaker 1>And they showed dad like a think of like a

1338
01:15:54.560 --> 01:16:00.600
<v Speaker 1>vision of missiles being shot out to them in Spain, right,

1339
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and they just disable it and they tumble away and

1340
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of humorously, they're like they're they're powerless, like they're

1341
01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 1>they're terrified of us, but they're nothing. If that sounds crazy,

1342
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I seem to recall two or three weeks ago, Congress

1343
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:16.199
<v Speaker 1>just put up a video of a missile being shot

1344
01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:19.800
<v Speaker 1>in an ORB just saying and they said a lot

1345
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of things that's covered on that episode. One they showed

1346
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Dad some like strange looking beings, like little He always

1347
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.159
<v Speaker 1>described it, like a dog mixed with a duck, with

1348
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.439
<v Speaker 1>like duck feet and a duck bill. They were just

1349
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like creating these little life forms, and they were like,

1350
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:36.439
<v Speaker 1>we create life. We tend to it like a garden

1351
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:40.239
<v Speaker 1>in the service of creation. And they had triangles on

1352
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:43.680
<v Speaker 1>their chest too, and they indicated that it meant creation.

1353
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.000
<v Speaker 1>The triangle was creation. They didn't say I am an

1354
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 1>angel of the Lord. They didn't. They didn't say that.

1355
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:55.239
<v Speaker 1>They said we're the Guardians. They intentionally used different terminology,

1356
01:16:55.279 --> 01:17:00.560
<v Speaker 1>but they kind of Dad always felt after that experience

1357
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:05.159
<v Speaker 1>that they were angels, that it was angelic, that it's

1358
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.600
<v Speaker 1>what they were telling him, you know. The guardians of creation,

1359
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.479
<v Speaker 1>right that they serve creation. They told him that they

1360
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:20.880
<v Speaker 1>chose his parents even and they pulled his soul from

1361
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:24.720
<v Speaker 1>a far away place, and they chose his parents to

1362
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.079
<v Speaker 1>basically be like the portal of his birth, to be

1363
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:32.520
<v Speaker 1>born into this world, to tell his story of his

1364
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:34.960
<v Speaker 1>experience with them and bring knowledge of them to the world.

1365
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Basically that like, essentially, you know, we've carefully designed your

1366
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>life so that you would play a part in helping

1367
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:50.159
<v Speaker 1>us get this out there to people. They showed him

1368
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the Pyramids. They just zoomed him right over the pyramids.

1369
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:57.399
<v Speaker 1>They let him fly this vessel. Just think wherever you

1370
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.319
<v Speaker 1>want to go. He thinks, and he's there, flew it

1371
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.359
<v Speaker 1>with his thoughts. There was a little control panel and everything.

1372
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:05.840
<v Speaker 1>He just touch it and he thinks, and he just

1373
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he goes wherever he wants to go. He's going around

1374
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:13.439
<v Speaker 1>the stars. And you know, they showed him a lot

1375
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 1>of things, But I think the most important thing that

1376
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:18.920
<v Speaker 1>always stood out to me as a child when he

1377
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:20.479
<v Speaker 1>was telling me, and at the time he never knew

1378
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:26.720
<v Speaker 1>what it was. They showed him a very massive golden light,

1379
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:33.720
<v Speaker 1>like enormous. He had no clue if it's the sun

1380
01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:37.640
<v Speaker 1>if it's an orb, who knows. I remember when I

1381
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:40.560
<v Speaker 1>was a child, like fifteen at the time, the rage

1382
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was this whole Nibberu thing, Zacharai Sitchen. So as a

1383
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:45.840
<v Speaker 1>as a young child, I was like, is it niberu?

1384
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, because I had no context for this obviously,

1385
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I know now that's all bull crap, and Zacharai Sitchen

1386
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:57.359
<v Speaker 1>made all that up. But they told him about this

1387
01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:00.680
<v Speaker 1>massive golden light, this golden orb, and they said that

1388
01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it was returning to our world, that it's on the

1389
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:07.520
<v Speaker 1>way to Earth, and that the powers of the world

1390
01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:10.560
<v Speaker 1>fear it, but it's on the way, it's approaching, that

1391
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it is something significant for mankind, and you know, basically

1392
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that they'd be helping him, that they'd be watching over

1393
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>him and protecting him, and they always had been. And

1394
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>his near death experience when he was ten he was shot,

1395
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and when he was shot by that shotgun, immediately he

1396
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 1>was on a surfboard going into outer space out of

1397
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:37.439
<v Speaker 1>his body. That's what he always his whole life, even

1398
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.399
<v Speaker 1>a ten year old child, the mummy he was shot.

1399
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:42.720
<v Speaker 1>He always has described his entire life, even when I

1400
01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:45.399
<v Speaker 1>was a child, was it like being shot? Daddy? He

1401
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was on a surfboard flying out in space. They indicated

1402
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:51.159
<v Speaker 1>that was them, that they've always been protecting him from

1403
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 1>forces that want to kill him and silence him, and

1404
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that they'll be watching over him and protecting him. They

1405
01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>also showed him some of the Dark Four and explained

1406
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:06.279
<v Speaker 1>that they're like parasites that feast on people's minds, like

1407
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:09.239
<v Speaker 1>demonic spirits, and they keep those forces at bay and

1408
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:14.039
<v Speaker 1>they protect our world. But anyway, so that was the

1409
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:16.680
<v Speaker 1>gist of kind of what happened in that missing four hours, right,

1410
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of that would make more

1411
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>sense in the next part when we talk about the

1412
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:25.720
<v Speaker 1>most important part of all of it, which is the Lady,

1413
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the the being that he saw in twenty twelve, that

1414
01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, is I think the most important piece of

1415
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the puzzle, not only of our story, but of the

1416
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:47.359
<v Speaker 1>human story, of the universal story, the religious story, the

1417
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>historical story, everything, you know. And I think that's a

1418
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:58.920
<v Speaker 1>good place to end it. I don't really that was

1419
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the original event in two thousand and seven. So any

1420
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:07.920
<v Speaker 1>thoughts before we close out? No, I'm good, good job,

1421
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, thank you guys for listening. I know

1422
01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:13.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you already know this story, and you know,

1423
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I know my brother told elements of it on the

1424
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>show at one point, but it was important to me

1425
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:20.439
<v Speaker 1>to have an actual, authentic telling of this on my

1426
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:24.199
<v Speaker 1>own platform, and that was something that I had always

1427
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>intended to do when the time was right, and for

1428
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason in my heart, I just felt like the

1429
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:30.720
<v Speaker 1>time was right. So I hope you guys enjoyed that.

1430
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:32.520
<v Speaker 1>If you've already heard it, great, you got to hear

1431
01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it again now you know more details if you missed

1432
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<v Speaker 1>out on XYZ. So yeah, we're gonna come back and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do another part talking about not only the

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<v Speaker 1>next five years, but also everything after that and just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of round out you know, what it all means

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. So love you guys, Thank you for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, Thank you for supporting us on our

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<v Speaker 1>mission to get this message out to the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately it's all about just trying trying to help people

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<v Speaker 1>see the bigger picture that you know there there are

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<v Speaker 1>genuine forces unseen that are interacting with us from another place,

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<v Speaker 1>another world, or another dimension, and it all leads back

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<v Speaker 1>to God. So anyway, bye, guys. The weird things happened

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<v Speaker 1>in their

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<v Speaker 2>Anything in an
