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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan. I'm Jacob, and today

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<v Speaker 2>we bring back your boy Matty Ice. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Cult. Brother.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on, guys?

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<v Speaker 2>It has been a minute. We were looking back and

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<v Speaker 2>this I believe is your sixth time coming on to

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<v Speaker 2>this show, and the last time you were on was

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<v Speaker 2>back in January, so it's been a little while. Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was almost gonna go back and listen to

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<v Speaker 3>that because I think I made a prediction on your

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<v Speaker 3>show that came true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest, that's probably correct. And when things

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<v Speaker 1>started going down with old Donnie t right, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was a big fiasco and Butler, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you may have heard about it, right, And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a big debate that's going on, and me and Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying, bro, we got to get Maddy Ice

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<v Speaker 1>back on because I know for a fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>has not only two cents to throw in on the matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee the man's got a cork which strings abounding

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<v Speaker 1>on this situation. So I am glad that we got

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<v Speaker 1>you back when we did how we did, because everything

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<v Speaker 1>is ramping up right now. So brother, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what you've discovered.

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<v Speaker 3>Well back in January, I said that you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be fighting through you know, winter into spring, and

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<v Speaker 3>then there's gonna be an event in June or July

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<v Speaker 3>that takes us through the summer and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have World War three happen, or you know, ramp up

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<v Speaker 3>and go into the election. And of course that's when

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<v Speaker 3>good old Donnie got shot at. That's right, dumbest the

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<v Speaker 3>theory I've heard about that is that he staged it,

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<v Speaker 3>like to create more popularity or buzz around him, or

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<v Speaker 3>make him look better in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>In the moment, I understand why the conspiracy heads would

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<v Speaker 1>think this okay, because we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Never just see somebody shooting at your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I agree with that. But hold on, hear

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<v Speaker 1>me out. Hear me out, Indy. I'm talking within the

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<v Speaker 1>initial I mean, the first five days of it going down. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a million theories as to what is and is

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<v Speaker 1>not the truth. No information was coming out. Head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Service was just just stonewalling because I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to find out. So people were just coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with the wildest shit. That theory that he staged

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<v Speaker 1>it in some way, shape or form. I heard so

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<v Speaker 1>many spin offs of that one. He had a little

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<v Speaker 1>thing in his ear that was set to go off

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<v Speaker 1>and make it look like he got shot, but in

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<v Speaker 1>reality he didn't. Heard Oh no, no, right, he got

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<v Speaker 1>the world's best sniper that he trusted to take that shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was so many theories. But I have to

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you, Maddie. I think there's no way he

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<v Speaker 1>staged that on himself because there's too many confirmed things

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<v Speaker 1>about the shot that actually was taken, not the alleged

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. The theory kind of crumbled

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<v Speaker 1>under its own weight pretty quickly. But I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why in the first people said things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I just to put in my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know that we cover like such a wide

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<v Speaker 2>vast cast of possible theories over here. So you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I want to uh, maybe input my

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<v Speaker 2>own here. Something that I've really been brewing on, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is, well, we have electro Nick always talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how maybe it was a Pleaadian thing. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's Palladian, but maybe. I mean, who's to say

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<v Speaker 2>that it wouldn't be some kind of alien interference in

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of way, because if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like Trump was the one that said, oh yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely aliens, and if he has, who's to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he didn't have some help right there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever he said that, it was like kind of miraculous

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<v Speaker 2>that he moved his head at just the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>Which it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dude, I'm just saying, and it helped

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<v Speaker 2>him out big time. Like it a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, yo, motherfucker got shot at like while trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be president. It's on some thug shit and and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dude, I just I wonder if there's

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of divine or et you know, inter interference

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<v Speaker 2>here in a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he created face space Force to stop time travelers

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<v Speaker 3>from creating portals in outer space and traveling through them.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we are going immediately into the deep, Maddie,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking love you. Let's go break it down for me, dog.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, like the CIA has come out. Wow. It

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<v Speaker 3>was more of a jokey, jokey thing where somebody asked

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<v Speaker 3>a CIA analyst on a in an interview, what are

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<v Speaker 3>what's up with all of the UFOs or UAPs, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, those are not extraterrestrials you're seeing those are

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<v Speaker 3>time travelers from the future coming back to us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's quite possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was a jokey, jokey thing. It

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<v Speaker 3>was that girl on TikTok who her dad is a

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<v Speaker 3>CIA operative or a retired CIA operative, and then she

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<v Speaker 3>had an analyst that she was asking questions about random

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<v Speaker 3>stuff too. But yeah, I think it was a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's also kind of true because we

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<v Speaker 3>all do that. It's like, oh, yeah, I d's the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually did that. And when you actually did, just

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure people don't actually think it was you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like gaslighting them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, oh Epstein, sure

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<v Speaker 2>he was trafficking children for their Adrina chrome, right, or

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<v Speaker 2>sure nine to eleven was an inside job, right? Like

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<v Speaker 2>these things and I think that, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>really think about it, And I'm not saying that this

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<v Speaker 2>CIA guy has any kind of intention with his words,

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<v Speaker 2>although I'm sure they're absolutely trained in neurolinguistic programming and

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<v Speaker 2>how to speak correctly and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you really think about it, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>follow the playbook of the elites, the illuminati, the dark side,

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<v Speaker 2>the cabal, the whatever you want to call, they absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>have to get the truth out there in some way.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they just so happened to portray it as

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<v Speaker 2>a joke even though they're getting the truth out there,

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<v Speaker 2>then that karma doesn't turn around and bite them in

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<v Speaker 2>the ass. So in their mind, hey, we didn't fool anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>We told you you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, break it down for me. Now, the assassination,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying the first theories that came out was that

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<v Speaker 1>he staged on himself. Obviously, you look at it long enough,

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<v Speaker 1>most people can tell that that wasn't the case. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think really transpired that day? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that played into the puzzle piece or the

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<v Speaker 1>domino effect of all that has come since. Break it

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<v Speaker 1>all down.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, bro I'm it's difficult to assess. I know

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<v Speaker 3>we've had a little bit of time, but well we

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<v Speaker 3>also don't know what is factual information and what's just speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we're going off the best information we have currently,

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<v Speaker 1>which to be you know, what information is it that

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<v Speaker 1>we have?

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<v Speaker 3>Granted, everything was set up for him to for mister

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<v Speaker 3>what's his name, Matthew Crooks to get up on that

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<v Speaker 3>roof and to stay up on that roof. They weren't

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<v Speaker 3>given the go ahead to take him out until after

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<v Speaker 3>he had taken a few shots. And there are apparently

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI couldn't get into his phone for a number

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<v Speaker 3>of days, and then a private company was able to

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<v Speaker 3>hack his phone when they didn't even have it and

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<v Speaker 3>said that there were text messages from somebody saying that

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking at our card, or they know we're here,

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<v Speaker 3>or they're looking for us, or something of that nature.

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<v Speaker 3>So there may have been a second wan of the assassin,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're the fact that he's connected to Blackrock. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a cell phone ping GPS records from somebody that was

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<v Speaker 3>near an FBI building making a lot of trips to

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<v Speaker 3>his house and Butler. There's also another one from I

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<v Speaker 3>guess it's somewhere in New England or maybe New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember which, but somebody else that was connected

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<v Speaker 3>to the FBI or the NSA was doing that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know anything about the nine cell phones that

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<v Speaker 1>were found at his house that had all been painted

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<v Speaker 1>a certain building that has like twenty different offices of

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<v Speaker 1>different three letter agencies And it's so basically this kid,

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<v Speaker 1>for like a month and a half, was just back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth back and forth to this building with all

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<v Speaker 1>these government agencies offices there. Do you know any information

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<v Speaker 1>about this?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've heard it all, but it's all gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be SCIOs, misdirection and lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who actually ordered it, or it could

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<v Speaker 3>have been anybody. It could have been the CIA, It

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<v Speaker 3>could have been the the Democratic Party, It could have

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<v Speaker 3>been people in his own party. It could have been anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>But it definitely wasn't the military. It definitely wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>train sniper. It was somebody that knew nothing of when died, trajectory,

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<v Speaker 3>velocity two, two, three, round or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this your boy, Thomas Matthew Crooks, if he was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that took the shot, because I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole list of conjecture to say he wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>the only shooter and bupa bup, I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that she was.

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<v Speaker 3>A sniper fires from cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I said shooter, not sniper, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he taking a shot for sure? This guy was not

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of a trained operative by any stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination. Even if he was, I would have taken

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<v Speaker 1>that if he was, if he had used a proper

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<v Speaker 1>rifle for that shot, I could accept all the other

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<v Speaker 1>shit if you would have actually used a man's weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>not an AR But whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you really think about it, you're saying that

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't trained, Well, exactly what do you mean by

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<v Speaker 2>he might not have been trained? Because he could have

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<v Speaker 2>been trained in another way? And I actually like to

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<v Speaker 3>With his high school shooting team, So he had experienced shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told he couldn't even make the team. He

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<v Speaker 1>or did he actually make the team?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, where I'm going with it, though, is that who's

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<v Speaker 2>to say that he wasn't trained by the same people

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're somebody who questions a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>school shootings. I'm not saying that school shootings are fake

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<v Speaker 2>and possibly gay, I am saying, but what I am

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<v Speaker 2>saying is that if that all is a setup, and

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<v Speaker 2>just what he used, which was an assault rifle. Just

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<v Speaker 2>throwing that out there, a rifle, that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the fucking you know, that's the talking points.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, very coincidental how this matches every single

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<v Speaker 2>school shooting like experience, right like, because you know, poor,

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<v Speaker 2>not poor, but like kind of deranged white kid, probably

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of friends, probably a little depressed, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little anxiety, climbs up on top of this fucking roof. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>the cops and the patrolman all knew that he was

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<v Speaker 2>going up there, because there were people in the crowd

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<v Speaker 2>that were saying, hey, whoa this guy literally like he

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<v Speaker 2>has a ladder and you're just gonna let him get

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<v Speaker 2>up on top of this building. This was absolutely some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, in my opinion, some kind of school shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>except for replace the word school with your boy Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>High stakes, higher stakes to it. But same old song

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<v Speaker 1>and dance we've seen a time or two. I feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that he was able to get so close.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he did nick him in the ear. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not like a terrible shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, he pulled it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, but what was the distance? The distance

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't automatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's that's even for to my point. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Fine, there wasn't a bad shot. It was

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<v Speaker 1>only one hundred and fifty yards away. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>most basically trained privates from any boot camp could make

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<v Speaker 1>that shot. Fine, Fine, yes, cool, And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>like dead center and the Okay, he missed by literally

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<v Speaker 1>two centimeters given a little bit of air on that fine,

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<v Speaker 1>Fine the weapon that he used, and fine, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'll even take away my own hatred of the ar platform.

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<v Speaker 1>There are better made ars that have a smaller MOA.

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<v Speaker 1>And what that means is basically, if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>take three shots the rifle in a robotic arm to

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<v Speaker 1>where it's not moving, pop pop pop, the MOA on

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<v Speaker 1>the rifle he was using was like three inches, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that at a one hundred yards you have about a

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<v Speaker 1>three inch diameter circle where there's bullets might hit. There

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<v Speaker 1>was using exactly. There was better rounds, there's better ars

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<v Speaker 1>he could have used to make that moa more like

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<v Speaker 1>a one moa, a one inch circle of where you

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<v Speaker 1>could have hit. That's what I'm saying. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>like years and years of scout sniper training and Khille

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<v Speaker 1>suits and firing from cover heat. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Your point, Jonathan, right, but crash course.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, but check this out though, But check it out

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<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to not make it seem blatantly obvious,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you give him kind of a bullshit gun. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that they as a bullshit gun accomplished.

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<v Speaker 1>The mission or not. You know how, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>him to just be the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fall guy, yeah, they did that well, right, But ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>they knew that he was going to get assassinated. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a fucking sitting duck up there, right, So it

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<v Speaker 2>was inevitable that this was going to be this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>last breaths regardless he was going to get found out

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<v Speaker 2>if it was indeed, Thomas Matthew Crooks, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's speculation over there. Some people even speculate that there

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<v Speaker 2>could have been as many as three or four different shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I some people, you know, they they

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<v Speaker 2>believe that that's absolutely true. I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all you need is one.

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<v Speaker 3>When when you're talking about MK Ultra, the thing I well,

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<v Speaker 3>the rabbit hole that I kind of went down and

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to I was trying to prove my

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<v Speaker 3>own bias, which you know, you got to look at

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<v Speaker 3>all ends of the spectrum though all of I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if all, but most of the mass shooters, school shooters,

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<v Speaker 3>and Matthew Thomas Crooks were on SSRIs, which are antidepressants.

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<v Speaker 3>Antidepressants were not as common until the nineteen seventies. Then

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<v Speaker 3>we have psychologists and doctors putting massive amounts of people

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<v Speaker 3>on these SSRIs or serotonin receptors and inhibitors, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it grows exponentially until the nineties, like three hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>greater or more people are on these SSRIs, and we

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<v Speaker 3>see an influx of mass shootings from the nineties until now.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also have the can't remember what the patent's

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<v Speaker 3>called but basically it's using electronics for mind control, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least to insert an idea into somebody's head with

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<v Speaker 3>different tones, frequencies, and subliminal messages. But even though they

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<v Speaker 3>do have that, and maybe serotonin receptors inhibitors make it

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<v Speaker 3>easier for that stuff to take effect, it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>mean that those people that committed these acts were mk

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<v Speaker 3>ultrade in that way, because if obviously somebody that would

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<v Speaker 3>do something like that has obvious mental issues, and if

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<v Speaker 3>they have mental issues, they're going to need medication. So

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of is where my argument fell through. But

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<v Speaker 3>he was on SSRIs, he did have a history of

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<v Speaker 3>mental illness, and he was making trips back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>to FBI buildings and the like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy shit, dude, Like it just seems very and

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. That's why so many people believe that

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<v Speaker 2>this may have been some kind of setup job. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is is that those same people that are

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, well, Trump was probably the one that orchestrated it.

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<v Speaker 2>If he would have gotten taken out by that bullet.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's saying that. Nobody is saying Trump orchestrated that.

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<v Speaker 3>The vapor trail of a bullet going right by his head,

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<v Speaker 3>so we know there was there were actually shots fired

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<v Speaker 3>at him. And I don't care how good your shooter

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<v Speaker 3>is or how good your you know, team is. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't you never shoot at yourself, like you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>somebody shoot at you. Right, There's so many things that

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<v Speaker 3>could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>People metaphorically say I'm so crazy, I like to burn

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge while I'm still standing on it. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a figure of speech, y'all. Nobody's like I'm so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to assessinate myself, like, no, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this isn't on some Viking levels ship where you're

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<v Speaker 2>burning the burning the ships. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that so but the.

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<v Speaker 3>Best theory I heard. I mean, there's all those videos

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<v Speaker 3>of something possibly on the water tower.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you what you thought about the

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<v Speaker 1>water tower. Was that a shadow? Was that a person?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a bird?

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way to tell. But what was his Senator Cruz,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess no, No, Senator Kennedy said, was it a

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<v Speaker 3>murder hornet? Was it saslatch?

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<v Speaker 1>I fuck with Senator Kennedy. All right, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>sooner or later it's gonna come out that he's been

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<v Speaker 1>taking money from somebody and he's evil just like the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them. But dude, he gives no fucks when

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<v Speaker 1>he is.

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<v Speaker 3>I love his What state is he?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Louisiana? Louisiana?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it a murder hornet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the one that was saying does your app

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<v Speaker 1>still suck? Does your huser interface still stuck?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, yeah, he's He's the one

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<v Speaker 2>one that was telling people that they need to lock

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<v Speaker 2>their doors. Remember after the uh what was it the

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Alien mall shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's another thing. I mean, we're in the deep

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<v Speaker 3>fake era, so we never know if anything that we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at is real. So the thing on the water

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<v Speaker 3>tower could just be somebody messing with a camera. The

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in Miami that could all be CGI. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>still something happened in Miami, and something happened in Butler.

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<v Speaker 3>But I doubt that somebody would choose that vantage point

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<v Speaker 3>for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how about we take it extra far and this

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<v Speaker 2>one Matthew, and we take it. I'm sorry, my kid

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<v Speaker 2>is still awake, my parents are in town. They just

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<v Speaker 2>got off a cruise, and so they're they're staying here

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<v Speaker 2>for the next couple of days. But and so that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you hear my kid talking in the background. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're gonna take it that step farther, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why we love having you on here is because of

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<v Speaker 2>that peg board that you do have and how you're

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<v Speaker 2>drawing all the connections to possible back to the future

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<v Speaker 2>type shit right here, let's look at it through these

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<v Speaker 2>this lens right here. Who's to say that Trump isn't

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<v Speaker 2>If Trump was a time traveler, wouldn't he have known

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<v Speaker 2>to move his head at that very specific second just

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<v Speaker 2>thrown it out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, I don't know if he can get the

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<v Speaker 3>timing down that perfectly. I've tried to do that. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that the assassin was a time traveler.

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<v Speaker 1>I I hold on, now hold the funk on. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna need you to pump the brakes, take

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<v Speaker 1>us back a couple steps here. And it is all hypothetical,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, good cult members, we're not saying concrete confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>nothing here, but just to be sure we're on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page, you're hypothetically saying that Thomas Matthew Crooks may

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<v Speaker 1>have been a time traveler. Well, the reason or you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's the fall guy for the the actual shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you at?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? Oh, I just stay open to all of the theories.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't I don't think that he was a

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<v Speaker 3>time traveler other than there was a video that came

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<v Speaker 3>out in the very next morning from somebody that looked

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<v Speaker 3>like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that dude was fucking great. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he actually had to take his his clip down,

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<v Speaker 1>but the internet didn't forget.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saved it.

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<v Speaker 1>And like why and like hype, The big story behind

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<v Speaker 1>that one is he's just some lookalike that went insta

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<v Speaker 1>viral because of the timing of striking while the iron

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<v Speaker 1>hot so to speak. Okay, dude, of all the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>people that you're gonna try to go insta famous for

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<v Speaker 1>trying to emulate, Like, dude, nobody tried to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Harvey Oswald look alike the week after he got shot.

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<v Speaker 1>My boy, what are you doing? But like, the internet

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<v Speaker 1>is the Internet, you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that was just good timing on that

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<v Speaker 3>guy's part. But it made me think that what if

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<v Speaker 3>the assassin was a time traveling or Okay, because it

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<v Speaker 3>also kind of correlates with The Umbrella Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I just finished watching that. What It's great, right, Okay?

422
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<v Speaker 1>I loved and hated it at different points for different reasons.

423
00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>The way it all ended pissed me off and made

424
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<v Speaker 1>me feel good at the same time. Therefore, I called

425
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the entire saga a big w I do, in fact

426
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<v Speaker 1>love The Umbrella Academy.

427
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of episodes that didn't need to happen, but.

428
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 1>There were certain plot points that weren't needed, certain character

429
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>arcs that really didn't help anything and actually hurt something. Yes,

430
00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Violet to Victor or whatever.

431
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 3>That was more of a socialist justice warrior type thing.

432
00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>That's because the actor slash, actress slash whatever they them

433
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.960
<v Speaker 1>are calling themselves these days, forced them to do it,

434
00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and like the show was like this, this is a

435
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.759
<v Speaker 1>good idea. It'll make us look Yo. It didn't help

436
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the show, it didn't hurt it, but it didn't do

437
00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>anything for it either. You know, I agreed.

438
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:13.119
<v Speaker 3>But what I was gonna say is five went back

439
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 3>in time to assassinate jam Pay from the Grassy Knoll.

440
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.759
<v Speaker 3>So time traveling assassins were just kind of like in my.

441
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<v Speaker 1>Head, dude, apparently five was the time traveling assassin for

442
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.839
<v Speaker 1>all of history. That's just what he did. It's you know, yeah,

443
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 1>we're going ahead and plugging the Umbrella. Academy highly recommend it.

444
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 1>It's a good one.

445
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't watched that.

446
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>It's worth it.

447
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.000
<v Speaker 3>It takes a while to get through because.

448
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh you loving the multiverse, especially Jonathan oh My and

449
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.640
<v Speaker 1>like prophecies, whole cult groups springing up just off of

450
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>these weird doctrines, butterfly effects, like, oh dude, this would

451
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>be so your jam. Now, you may not take it

452
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 1>as proof and truth. You probably would take it as

453
00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody's interpretation of these concepts. But but that's what it's

454
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. It's good.

455
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.599
<v Speaker 3>It just took all of the time travel theories and

456
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:07.079
<v Speaker 3>put them together like they all have the John teed

457
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.920
<v Speaker 3>or device that is like a briefcase that travel is

458
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.880
<v Speaker 3>a time travel machine and everything and the corporation or

459
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:20.440
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is that protects history. That could be. I

460
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 3>actually think something like that might exist if time travel exists.

461
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah.

462
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what I think exists, as far as

463
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<v Speaker 1>like from a movie that pertains this. You've ever seen

464
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Ninja Assassin?

465
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I just scrolled by it last night.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, watch so long story short, and this ain't gonna

467
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>ruin anything for you. There is an ancient school of

468
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>assassins high up in the mountains, like behind a waterfall

469
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and like you can't see this place in bump fuck nowhere, Japan, right,

470
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 1>And they take orphans and they train them from day

471
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 1>one to become like the deadliest assassins and all weapons,

472
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 1>all manners of how to blend, since they teach them

473
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>how to smell like wolves. A whole nine long story short,

474
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>dude breaks away. There's a big fight over it all,

475
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.519
<v Speaker 1>but I'm and they still are out for hire this day.

476
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 1>And if you ever receive an envelope with Black Sand

477
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>in it, it's the Black Sands School of Assassins, and

478
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.559
<v Speaker 1>like that's your ass, that's them letting you know that,

479
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 1>like the hunt is on and anywhere between the moment

480
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you open that envelope till a year from now, it's happening.

481
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.839
<v Speaker 1>It's going down. I believe schools like that, maybe not

482
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.759
<v Speaker 1>in Japan with these as, but schools like that really

483
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:33.519
<v Speaker 1>exist all over the world for sure.

484
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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I've been going down. I mean,

485
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 3>we talked about it a little bit earlier, but is

486
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 3>all the UFO stuff that's going on, because they're really

487
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>ramping up that. But I they've admitted to having off

488
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 3>world technology, which really only means that it was technology

489
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't developed on Earth. They could have developed it

490
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<v Speaker 3>in a space station, but where did they get it

491
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen forty seven?

492
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, some people would also suggest that just because it's

493
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>off world. I mean, if you look at and I'm

494
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>not gonna go full on flat Earth here, but if

495
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 2>you look at some of the flat Earth maps about

496
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>how there's extra terrace, right, all these extra lands that

497
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe are similar to ours, so a little

498
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>bit smaller, a little bit bigger, and they're all they're

499
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>also all surrounded by some sort of ice wall or

500
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 2>something along those lines. If that's the case, that would

501
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>be extraterrestrial. It's extra terrain. That would be Who's to

502
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>say that there aren't other If if that is real

503
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 2>and we don't know, how how are we gonna know?

504
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Like what are we just gonna automatically assume that that's

505
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 2>fake because we trust NASA, I don't.

506
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>That's like assuming space is real shout out to the

507
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>flat Earth biblical people that believe the firmament is more

508
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>of a snow globe. I don't haven't forgot y'all.

509
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, some people, as I said earlier, think

510
00:27:53.880 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 2>that space could be possibly fake and hypothetically gay as well.

511
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Son just be a.

512
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Part of the simulation, because as we know, the universe

513
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 3>is constantly expanding, and we're constantly like the Hubble telescope

514
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 3>is going further and further, and drone or drones or

515
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call him spacecraft are going further

516
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 3>and further and discovering more and more. But that could

517
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 3>just be the simulation rendering more of the map as

518
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 3>we go along.

519
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Is the people finding cheat codes and just random shit

520
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 1>that's not is supposed to be here is here? Like

521
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Grandft Auto homeboy put out the cell phone and all

522
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden he's got a fully automatic exploding bullets

523
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>shotgun that like he just cell phoned in. We got

524
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>shit like that going on.

525
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's entirely possible. And now

526
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>the more I get into a lot of the you know,

527
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 2>specific topics on meta and stuff like that, dude, the

528
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>world is getting crazier and crazier to me, especially whenever

529
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 2>I hear certain stories and and and honestly, even like

530
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 2>the experiences that I experience, Like, dude, what are synchronicities?

531
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Why are we constantly seeing these things? It's like little

532
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>tiny deja vus, almost not exactly a little remembering, but

533
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like it weirdly syncs up with whatever is going

534
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>on in your life? Is that ud always been there long?

535
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Because a girl a girl made a TikTok telling a

536
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 3>story about she. It wasn't deja vu? And it doesn't

537
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 3>wasn't dajab? What is it revae or something? Which is

538
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>I remember this or I remember this from a dream.

539
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 3>But she was like making dinner with somebody, and all

540
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, she just felt like she had been

541
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>there before, and she felt like she had been dropped

542
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>back into her body, kind of like when you wake

543
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 3>up out of a dream. And she had two thoughts,

544
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>One was what am I doing back here? And I've

545
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 3>got to do it right this time? And that goes

546
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 3>along with a movie called The Discovery with Robert Redford

547
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 3>and Jason Siegel, where Robert Redford's a scientist where he

548
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>makes a discovery and he discovers a way to measure

549
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 3>on a quantum level the soul leaving the body at

550
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>the time of death, and that basically, since something leaves

551
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 3>and goes somewhere, everybody's thinking that, you know, either heaven's

552
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 3>reel or an afterlife's real, and people just start offing themselves.

553
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh I remember that mounts.

554
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Then what they finally discover is that it's part

555
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>of this simulation, and it's your consciousness leaving this current

556
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>reality going back to a previous portion or a separate

557
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.279
<v Speaker 3>timeline or in the multiverse, and you get to go

558
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>back to a pivotal point in your life line and

559
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 3>make a different choice.

560
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Dude, see what I'm saying, Like, I know that that

561
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 2>might be you call it science fiction or whatever, who's

562
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>to say, But I do want to tell this story

563
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 2>since we are kind of on this topic. My mom

564
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>just told me this like a couple hours ago, and

565
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>she knows that I'm into all this kind of deja

566
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 2>vu and synchronicity and dreams and stuff like that. Well,

567
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, my mom had a like

568
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>a very very vivid dream. She just told me this.

569
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>She goes, I had a super vivid dream where I

570
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>was in the water and I was swimming with dolphins,

571
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and I remember she was like, she was like, I

572
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>remember we were outside of a ship and I was

573
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 2>looking up. And right at the moment that I was

574
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>looking up at the ship from the water, she goes,

575
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I saw like a bunch of people with like these

576
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>paper like chef hats on, right, And she she remembers

577
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>having the thought in the dream, why would you want

578
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to be up there like taking some little culinary school

579
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, you could be down here swimming

580
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>with dolphins. That was just like a thought that she

581
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>had in her mind, but she remembered it specifically from

582
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.720
<v Speaker 2>this dream. Cut too. Now she had known that she's

583
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be going on this cruise. Who's to say

584
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that that was just her brain's way of saying, look,

585
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>this is a possible thing that maybe you think is

586
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 2>going to happen on this cruise. Well, cut to the

587
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>time that she's actually on the cruise. She got they

588
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 2>just got off earlier today. The time she's actually on

589
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the cruise, they're outside of the boat swimming with dolphins. Right,

590
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 2>not that crazy, I mean, she set up a what

591
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>do they call excursion, right, she set up a little excursion.

592
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>They were out there swimming with dolphins. Dude, she's swimming

593
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 2>with dolphins. She looks up and this is in real life.

594
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 2>She looks up there are all these people and chef hats,

595
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and she has the same exact thought, why would you

596
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>be up there? And then it clicked in her mind,

597
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, I just had this dream. Like she goes like, exactly, okay,

598
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>deja revae. Then, but that's what she was saying. I

599
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 2>guess my dad looked over at her whenever, you know,

600
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>she had come to that realization, and she had like

601
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 2>this super like shook ass like look on her face, right,

602
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>and my Dad's like, what's wrong? And she goes, I

603
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 2>dreamed this. I dream this exact thing, Like, what is that?

604
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>What is that? You know what I mean?

605
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 1>What is this?

606
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Dajav I'd never heard of that one.

607
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I only briefly looked up because she said

608
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 3>that word, and I didn't know what that word meant.

609
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>So it's remembering something that or you've done this before

610
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 3>because you've dreamt this, you've dreamt this moment. But it's

611
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>so common that there's a word for it.

612
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Dude.

613
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if that think about it in a physical

614
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 2>world that we that we all think that this is

615
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>just a physical reality, there's nothing really special about it. Whatever,

616
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>How do you factor that in? Like, how does that

617
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 2>get factored in? You know, because that's something that's not

618
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>a one off kind of thing, like you said that,

619
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>that's they created a whole word for it because people

620
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>were having that. I mean, is this a psychic vision

621
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>or some shit are we talking about? Like Jacob, what

622
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts on that?

623
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 3>But where are they coming from?

624
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Right?

625
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>So is this more and I'm not saying and that

626
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>your mother this was some sort of prophetic message from God?

627
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Possibly, I'm not here to judge or interpret,

628
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but that could also be akin to what we look

629
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 1>at as prophecy. Right, somebody gets it, has a dream,

630
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they get a word from the higher side, the higher self, God,

631
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>their deity of choice, whatever the case may be, and

632
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 1>they wake up and they write this dream down it

633
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>comes true two hundred years later. What do you call that?

634
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know now prophecy? I think where that division

635
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 1>line actually is and we looked this up before, is

636
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 1>that the person who said it or wrote it actually

637
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't alive to see it come through to fruition that

638
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess would be the difference between this and that.

639
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 1>So what do you call this? This is a new word,

640
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you're blowing mindody eyes. Okay, premonition but

641
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>specifically from a dream. That's deja revae.

642
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go check with her real quick. She's right

643
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>in the next room. She looked up the exact word.

644
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a show.

645
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't PM. She's not going to be about that.

646
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't premonition. That's what I thought it was.

647
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>But let me go check.

648
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back for it. Bro. But you ask

649
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>her to come on, let's get let's get mama. Mama

650
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 1>cult up on here man, absolutely bro Okay. So also,

651
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, this is kind of while we're waiting on him.

652
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Last time that we spoke to you, the cork war

653
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 1>was going strong. Is it still going strong?

654
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's gonna get revamped.

655
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay. See, have you like wiped the board down and

656
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 1>started over? Yep? Oh like all the way. Hard reset, Oh,

657
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>hard reset.

658
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 3>But I've got everything in envelopes and folders, and I've

659
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>got a book, a bunch of pictures of how everything

660
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:45.119
<v Speaker 3>was and I want to make it less convoluted, and

661
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I want to differentiate between fiction, which would be the

662
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 3>movies or or what do you call that when they

663
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 3>foreshadow what's actually gonna happen. H predictive programming stuff. Yeah,

664
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 3>and then have a different area or a different color

665
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 3>scheme for actual factual information and events like the World

666
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Trades air bombing in nineteen ninety four that was perpetrated

667
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 3>by the FBI, all sorts of actual conspiracies, and then

668
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 3>weird time travel possible conspiracies.

669
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<v Speaker 2>So I went and asked her. She's not about to

670
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>come on here, she's like her night club.

671
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 3>You do have a guest.

672
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I decided to bring the boog on the show

673
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 2>here because he wanted to run in here. But it's

674
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>not it's not it's not a premonition. She said. What

675
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>what she looked up was more precognition or like precognizance

676
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But I mean, that is a

677
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Claire is Claire cognizance, So maybe that leaning more towards

678
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the psychic kind of stuff.

679
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I have no idea. I honestly, this

680
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is the first time I've ever really thought about that.

681
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not like in my life I've thought about like, yeah,

682
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a dream, then that shit comes true later

683
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's like reverse deja vu. I think I've had

684
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that happen once or twice in my life, but I

685
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>guess because I don't dream. This is such a foreign

686
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>concept to me these days. So I don't know, honestly.

687
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 3>But you dream, you just don't remember. If you didn't dream,

688
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 3>you would go insane.

689
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I've actually had studies done. The VA

690
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>actually had to do a sleep study on me at

691
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 1>one point in time. Liked when I'm out, I'm like

692
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>in a cold.

693
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Your brain actually shuts down and there's no brain activity.

694
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Big dog. When I'm asleep, I am asleep, I think.

695
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Although I say this, though, I did have a dream

696
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 1>one time in the past five years that I can remember,

697
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and that was the night after Jonathan hypnotized me and

698
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I had a past life regression. So I'm not saying

699
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that the brain isn't capable of doing these things. My

700
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>brain just is definitely like, hey, we get a break,

701
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna take it easy for about five hours.

702
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 1>That's about all to sleep. I gives about five hours

703
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a night, right so my brain is like, hey, big dog,

704
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>when we unplug, we unfucking plug it.

705
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's actually the reason why, you know, Dolores

706
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Cannon and I even suggest that whenever you are getting

707
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 2>hypnotized and going to a past life that you should

708
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 2>be sober. Is because the thing is is that the

709
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>reason why a lot of people are not saying this

710
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 2>is your Jacob, but just in general, the reason why

711
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't dream at night is because

712
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>they smoke weed before we go to sleep. I do

713
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I fall asleep like a fucking rock dude,

714
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>if I if I smoke, and that's really the only

715
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>time I ever even smoke is just to you know,

716
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 2>relax the last hour of the night and then go

717
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 2>to sleep.

718
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, isn't that weird because when we were in high school,

719
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 3>we always it was like weed was to get fucked up,

720
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 3>And now it's like I want to go to Betty Buys,

721
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 3>right right, I.

722
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Think it might be hereditary. Dude. My dad's the same way.

723
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't dream either.

724
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Well. The thing is is that what we does is

725
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.519
<v Speaker 2>that it takes away your uh, your rap your re

726
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>em sleep, so your rapid eye movement sleep, which is

727
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 2>what happens whenever you're dreaming, right, your eyes are.

728
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 3>All looking around alcohol too, Except alcohol is a little

729
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 3>bit different because you never actually get into REM sleep.

730
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 3>We just makes you skip sleep.

731
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Because I'll tell you this, man, back

732
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>when I was a drinker, some of the best long

733
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>winter naps I ever had in my life, where whenever

734
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I was completely blitzed. Is that true? You don't get

735
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>good sleep after you, like if you.

736
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Does some sort of hindrance to your sleep rhythms, is

737
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:34.639
<v Speaker 3>what I've what I've heard.

738
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a circadian rhythm that it throws off. So

739
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 2>it's unnatural. It's not to say that you're not going

740
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:40.840
<v Speaker 2>to get a good sleep. I mean I still get

741
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 2>a great sleep every night, and and you know, I

742
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 2>smoke before I go to sleep, you know, every night.

743
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 2>It's just that it doesn't allow you to get into

744
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>that REM cycle that allows you to dream. And so

745
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>even if you do get into the REM cycle and

746
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>you do dream a little bit, if you're high, or

747
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to sleep drunk or whatever, you're less

748
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>likely to wake up remembering that dream.

749
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I got you now, Okay.

750
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, anyway, look, I wanted to get into this.

751
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought that this was interesting, especially now that it's

752
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 2>been a couple of months since your boy, Thomas Matthew

753
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Crooks decided to be a crook. He all right, So

754
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>first off, he has a whole Wikipedia page, and then

755
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to kind of compare and contrast what a

756
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of other people are saying in regards to this

757
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.800
<v Speaker 2>whole Wikipedia article. So just to kind of get a

758
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>better understanding of him. If you're the person that actually

759
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 2>believes that this was the gentleman who decided to take

760
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>a shot, unless there was multiple shooters, but let's just

761
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>go along with this story that it absolutely.

762
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Was him, Okay.

763
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 2>It says first the reason I even wanted to search

764
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 2>this is because I wanted to see what his birthday was,

765
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 2>to see if it was any kind of you know,

766
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>weird numerology or whatever. No doubt not really. Born September twentieth,

767
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.119
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three. It says that he was an

768
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 2>American man who had tempted to assassinate former US President

769
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, who at the time was the presumptive Republican

770
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Party nominee for the twenty twenty four presidential election. On

771
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 2>July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, at a rally near Butler, PA,

772
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.679
<v Speaker 2>crooks shot at Trump with an AR fifteen style rifle

773
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>from a nearby rooftop with while Trump was giving a speech.

774
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Crooks hit Trump's ear with a shot and killed one attendee,

775
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>while critically injuring two others before being killed by a

776
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Secret Service counter sniper team. His motive remains unknown. The

777
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>FBI is investigating the case. Sure they are. You know,

778
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like, who's like monitoring the irs kind of thing.

779
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, but anyway, it says, Evidence on his

780
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>political views remaining inconclusive. In January twenty twenty one, he

781
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 2>donated fifteen dollars to a voter turnout group with a

782
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Democratic platform. When he reached the voting age of eighteen,

783
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>in September of twenty twenty one, he registered to vote

784
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party and

785
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>remained registered as a Republican until his death. Allegedly, However,

786
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 2>this is where it starts getting interesting whenever you start

787
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 2>getting into his early life, because I was curious, was

788
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>this guy on SSR Rise, was he, you know, bullied

789
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 2>in school or anything. He definitely looks like a fucking dork.

790
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at that fauxhead son.

791
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Boy, that's a five hit. What you talking?

792
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 2>He's screaming out, Hey, you guys. You know what I'm

793
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 2>saying that.

794
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>You remember seeing that video of of his little classmates

795
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>in him and it wasn't like he was mister popularity

796
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.159
<v Speaker 1>by any means, but it didn't look like he was

797
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 1>getting shit on NonStop. But then you heard different reports

798
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.039
<v Speaker 1>from high school classmates. Some said yay to that, some

799
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>said nay to that.

800
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, that story starts to clear up a

801
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 2>lot here. And and also remember that was a that's

802
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 2>a commercial. Nobody's gonna be bullying somebody in the middle

803
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>of a commercial.

804
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I mean in a video he made

805
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with his classmates that like went on YouTube and he said,

806
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>h yeah, and I'm a homosexual. He was like joking

807
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>around with them, and it was like a whole thing

808
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that his classmates were So I don't know, I don't know.

809
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So anyway. He was born in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, south

810
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 2>of Pittsburgh. A local politician said Crooks's neighborhood is middle class,

811
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe upper middle class. Both of Crooks's parents are licensed

812
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 2>professional counselors. How about that.

813
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that's why it went fucking crazy.

814
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 3>It's in charge of the asylum.

815
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Right. Recollections about him, including information about his life and

816
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>personality very considerably, says he attended Bethel Park High School

817
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 2>and was an above average student academically. He joined the

818
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.199
<v Speaker 2>National Technical Honor Society in twenty twenty one while a

819
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 2>junior in high school. In twenty twenty two, he graduated

820
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.199
<v Speaker 2>with high honors and won a five hundred dollars quote

821
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 2>unquote star reward from the National Math and Science Initiative.

822
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Probably how he was able to get in the Black

823
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Rock commercial, you know, That's what I would suggest anyway.

824
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Classmates and school officials characterized him as being quiet. Classmates

825
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>said that he was often bullied for various reasons, including

826
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>his quiet demeanor, body odor, as well as for wearing camouflage,

827
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>hunting outfits and surgical masks to school. So he was

828
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Probably he.

829
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Was a senior in twenty twenty, wasn't.

830
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 2>He twenty twenty two? Twenty twenty two, it said he

831
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 2>graduated with high honors, So twenty twenty one he was

832
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>a junior.

833
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Or so he would have been. In My point is

834
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 3>that he would have been in high school during twenty

835
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty when the whole COVID thing, So it's really not

836
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>that weird that he was wearing a surgical mask.

837
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, people are just making fun of him. I mean,

838
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.039
<v Speaker 2>who's to say, you know, because there was still a

839
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that were still wearing masks in twenty

840
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty one and twenty twenty two, But it's saying right

841
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 2>here in twenty twenty two, probably was whenever he was

842
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>still wearing the mask, and there's probably a bunch of

843
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 2>people making fun of him. We do it all the.

844
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Time, right, Yeah, that's true. The fact he was in

845
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 1>school during COVID's like his classmates saying that he wore

846
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 1>a mask, that makes that wouldn't be relevant, But the

847
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>fact that they made a special mention of it at

848
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>least indicates, or is at least intended to indicate, that

849
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>there was something more about there. Maybe he was one

850
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of these people that wore a mask after it was

851
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like no longer deemed necessary. But also I don't want

852
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to like add on to the bullying, but also fuck

853
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>this piece of shit. So like, yo, he looks stinky,

854
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>don't he? He looks like the fuck.

855
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.320
<v Speaker 3>He looks like he would be the smally kid in class.

856
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>He looks like the kid that'd be like scratching the

857
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>crack his ass and then like low key trying to

858
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 1>sniff it even though all of us just wash your

859
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>filthy shit like you know what I mean?

860
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could say that.

861
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he doesn't look like he was very socially epped.

862
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, definitely looks unhygienic. But anyway, it says according

863
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 2>to the school district, there are no detailed records of

864
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.239
<v Speaker 2>disciplinary incidents, including bullying and threats with crooks involved. The

865
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>school district concluded in quotes, the assailant was known as

866
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a quiet, bright young man who generally got along with

867
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.639
<v Speaker 2>his teachers and classmates. Now, keep keep in mind, that's

868
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the school district saying that. That's not students, that's not

869
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the teachers, you know.

870
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, Jonathan, how close were you with your

871
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 1>school board district manager?

872
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I ever met him.

873
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

874
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's crazy if something was to happen to some

875
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 1>kid that you graduated with, you're just like, whoa he

876
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>did what? And some school board members like, well, he

877
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 1>was a bright kid. What dude, well are you speaking

878
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 1>on it? You know?

879
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 2>And it says that he enjoyed playing chess and video

880
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>games and was learning computer programming. He attended a computer

881
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 2>technology program at the Steel Center for Career and Technical

882
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Education in Clareton, Pennsylvania. Some students and graduates from Bethel

883
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Park High School alleged that he tried out for the

884
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>school's rifle team but failed to make the team because

885
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 2>of his poor aim. There you go, that's what you

886
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 2>were saying. The Bethel Park School District said that there

887
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 2>is no record of Crooks trying out for the team.

888
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 2>He earned an associate degree in engineering science from the

889
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Community College of Allegheny County in Pittsburgh, graduating two months

890
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 2>before the shooting. He was employed as a dietary aid

891
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>in a nursing home at the time of the shooting.

892
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 2>According to the nursing home, which is less than a

893
00:46:57.559 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 2>mile away from where he lived, he had passed it

894
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>back crownd check and he quote unquote performed his job

895
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 2>without concern. He had been accepted into both the University

896
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh and Robert Morris University in Moon Township, Pennsylvania.

897
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.440
<v Speaker 2>So all right, So then it gets into Oh here

898
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 2>we go. He had no known criminal record and no

899
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 2>known mental health problems. He had a membership at a

900
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 2>local shooting club for at least a year. So this

901
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 2>is the Wikipedia, which we like to call Wickedpedia because

902
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it's usually always extremely watered down, and there's some Oh

903
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 2>my god, that is a horrific picture of this young man.

904
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get it.

905
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>He looking up in this picture, though, isn't he?

906
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what I'm saying, Like I understand that,

907
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like not everybody is born with like great looks and

908
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>good genetics, and like, okay, fine, I'm not trying to

909
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>like pick on those things. But also, like there had

910
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to be better photos. Oh yeah, him being a nerd

911
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>is without any doubt, right, but like there had to

912
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>be a better picture that the family could have offered up.

913
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there had to have bess a public photo that

914
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>somebody found.

915
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 2>It could have been something on MySpace for all we know.

916
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>You know what I Meanstard, I mean, he's wearing a

917
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:22.119
<v Speaker 1>patriotic shirt in that picture. This kid, this hitting the assassin,

918
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. This is a kid in

919
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>middle school. It's got a bright future ahead of him.

920
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>He's got hopes and dreams. So when did that that

921
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>little nerdy kid all of a sudden deside I have

922
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:35.559
<v Speaker 1>a really really cool idea.

923
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I mean, Eventually people get bullied

924
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 2>and bullied and bullied, and usually something happens as a

925
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 2>result of that. Well, maybe that person would take a

926
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 2>good approach and say, you know what, I'm gonna start

927
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 2>taking better care of myself. I'm gonna shower regularly, maybe

928
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll hit the gym, maybe I'll start eating better, and

929
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, maybe I'll get some fucking proactive face washing,

930
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.079
<v Speaker 2>get rid of all this fucking acnium face whatever. Right.

931
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I know I went through acne phases as a kid too,

932
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 2>so I get that. But you know, you can you

933
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:10.559
<v Speaker 2>can go one of two ways with that. You can

934
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 2>you can use it as fuel to be better and

935
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>to try and succeed, or you can take it that

936
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>other way. And uh so, anyway, I just want to

937
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 2>read this part. It says a senior congressional source who

938
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 2>was directly informed about the attempted assassination of the former

939
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>President Donald Trump, informed News News Nation that Thomas Matthew

940
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Crooks has been diagnosed with quote unquote major depressive order. Now,

941
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that's very different from what Wikipedia was saying. It says

942
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.039
<v Speaker 2>it is unclear if Crooks was on any medications or

943
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 2>if he was seeing a therapist for the depressive order.

944
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Well what do you need a therapist for if both

945
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 2>your parents are counselors?

946
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, So you're saying depressive depressive disorder?

947
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what I said. Did I not say that?

948
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 1>You said depressive order?

949
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Is that even a thing?

950
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 1>No? But when you said it the first time, I

951
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, you correctly, Okay, I do that all the time. No, no, No,

952
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't trying to like shit on you. I was

953
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 1>making sure what and't type that way? I'm like, hold on,

954
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is a depressive order? Then you said

955
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it again. I was like, wait, what the fuck am

956
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I reading right now? So, okay, depressive disorder?

957
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 2>That's on me? My bad. I'm a little slow sometimes,

958
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>not this guy slow, but you know, at least some

959
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 2>level of it. It says. Former class classmates have come

960
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 2>forward claiming the twenty year old was a loaner who

961
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 2>was bullied by his peers. These those those other kids

962
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 2>would always say, hey, look at the school shooter over there.

963
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 1>What I mean?

964
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean he fits the he fits if the shoe fits,

965
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Yeah, it said that they

966
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.679
<v Speaker 2>would tease him about his poor hygiene and his body

967
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 2>uder and he was an easy target. So I kind

968
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 2>of just wanted to throw that out there because, all right,

969
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 2>let's say he had some major depressive issues. Well, his

970
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 2>parents are both counselors. He did stink, he was he

971
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was a bit of a loaner. And they may.

972
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Have in the school shooter. That's fucking great.

973
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 2>They may have Babe Ruth that motherfucker and called their shot,

974
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and they may have been I mean speaking of premonition here.

975
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Right in the business, we call that foreshadowing with the

976
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Count Kula quote. Dude, I mean.

977
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Shit, all right, So since you said called their shot

978
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 3>and mentioned Babe Ruth, I got something for him.

979
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, go for it. I'm currently wearing I'm currently wearing

980
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.880
<v Speaker 1>my PF flyers. So hit me with a dog.

981
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Ah. How'd you find a pair of those, dude?

982
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 1>I I shit you not? Seventy dollars awesome? Copped a pair, dude.

983
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:47.559
<v Speaker 1>They're back online. The Postropedic Foundation is what PF stands for.

984
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 1>They just released their Sandlot edition again. Brother seventy dollars.

985
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 1>It's worth it. I promise they're comfortable as hell too.

986
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, tell me some babe ruth shit.

987
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 3>A few weeks ago, I guess Donald Trump made that

988
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 3>claim that he and Willie Brown had some sort of

989
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:08.679
<v Speaker 3>incident with a helicopter. You remember that, Like the helicopter

990
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 3>either had to make an emergency landing or something. But

991
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 3>it was a story, and then they said it with

992
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 3>CNN and the New York Times said it was fake news.

993
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 3>On August tenth, mister Donald Trump or the real Donald Trump,

994
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:29.519
<v Speaker 3>made a tweet and he's calling out the New York

995
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Times saying that they're fake news about he and Willie

996
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Brown and the helicopter ride. There is also a story

997
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.159
<v Speaker 3>in quotes on the tweet. Willie and Me end quotes,

998
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 3>why can't the radical left blah blah blah blah blah,

999
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 3>And then he does his Trump thing and talks. But

1000
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 3>that got me since he put that in quotes and

1001
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 3>capitalized that Willy and me, I'm like, I gotta find

1002
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 3>this story. Maybe he's referencing something. I could find no

1003
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 3>story on Donald Trump and William Brown in a helicopter

1004
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 3>except for people calling it fake news and other people

1005
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 3>saying it wasn't. But there is a book called Willie

1006
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 3>and Me by Dan Gutman about a young boy who

1007
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 3>time travels back to nineteen fifty five. Of course, where

1008
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 3>what's his name Thomas? I can't remember. Not Robert Thomas,

1009
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 3>but whoever it was that did the shot heard around

1010
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 3>the world during a game he had ait But not

1011
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 3>lou Garrick. No, it's in your swe something Robert or Thomas.

1012
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 3>It's not Rob Tomas anyway, anyway, it's something like that.

1013
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 3>But the fact that he may have referenced another book

1014
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 3>about time travel where a young boy goes back in

1015
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 3>time to nineteen fifty five, it kind of too is.

1016
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Too much, Maddie. Where do you even find that Bobby

1017
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Thomson sent it to Bobby Thompson?

1018
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Is it says? Perhaps no home run in base in

1019
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 2>the baseball canon looms larger than the Bobby Thompson's shot

1020
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:12.199
<v Speaker 2>herd around the world on October third, nineteen fifty one.

1021
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Come on, yeah, it's just.

1022
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, dude, It's always what is with all of these

1023
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 2>connections to time travel?

1024
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, why would he put that? In quotes a story

1025
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 3>called Willie and Me? And there's no story about Donald

1026
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Trump and Willie Brown called Willy and Me. But there

1027
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 3>is this book about time.

1028
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Travel, and I mean, I don't know the context of

1029
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Is there any other Willie he may have

1030
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 1>been referring to.

1031
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 3>The only other thing look up Willy and Me. The

1032
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 3>only other thing that comes up is a movie about

1033
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Willie Nelson. And I don't think that's what he was

1034
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about.

1035
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I wish that's what he was talking about. I would

1036
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 1>love to hear some story of story from Donnie t

1037
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>back in the day of him and Willie Nelson burning

1038
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it down. That would be worth a fucking podcast.

1039
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:00.039
<v Speaker 3>Well he never.

1040
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, money is his party.

1041
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 3>The other thing is, like we were talking about alcohol affecting

1042
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:11.119
<v Speaker 3>your dreams earlier. Donald Trump's never drank alcohol. But in

1043
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:16.360
<v Speaker 3>every time travel movie there at least is one part

1044
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 3>where it's centered around alcohol. Back to the future, the

1045
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 3>doc drinks a one shot of whiskey and passes out

1046
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 3>the bad guys, the thugs. They spiked the the punch

1047
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 3>with early times whiskey. There's Miller Lite or Miller Genuine

1048
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 3>draft throughout the movie. Maybe they were just sponsored by

1049
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 3>the Miller company. And then in well, hot Tub Time Machine.

1050
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:52.800
<v Speaker 3>There's tons of alcohol in Predestination. They meet at a bar,

1051
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 3>they're drinking heavily. That all of these movies are centered

1052
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 3>around alcohol in some way, and the person time traveling

1053
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 3>or wants to control time travel is never drinking. And

1054
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump has never drank alcohol.

1055
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now I gotta throw a weird spin into this.

1056
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.559
<v Speaker 2>So there is a guess that that I've had on

1057
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>this show a few times. His name is Johnny Vincento.

1058
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 2>And this is where it gets really fucking strange, Like

1059
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 2>this is wild. He he's a scientist, and he doesn't

1060
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 2>like what he doesn't like talking to Jacob, not Jacob specifically,

1061
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 2>but he just wants to only, you know, have the

1062
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 2>conversation with me. So every conversation that he's ever been

1063
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 2>on this show has only been with me. He's kind

1064
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 2>of a weird guy.

1065
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 1>But let's I've never even met him to rub him

1066
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the wrong way, so like, I don't know, but whatever.

1067
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not anything specific to you. It's just I

1068
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 2>guess he's just comfortable with me or whatever. But anyway,

1069
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:55.840
<v Speaker 2>he talks about how he may have solved the riddle

1070
00:56:56.079 --> 00:57:01.000
<v Speaker 2>as far as traversing time and what he said. He

1071
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:04.000
<v Speaker 2>says that if you get into a meditative state, before

1072
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.360
<v Speaker 2>you get into a meditative state, you would take just

1073
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:11.199
<v Speaker 2>a few shots of hard liquor, that would and then

1074
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>you get into a meditation and you're able to like

1075
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 2>time travel like this is something that he says.

1076
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a theory that goes along with astral projection and

1077
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 3>what is it where you.

1078
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And I now see why he doesn't want me on

1079
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the show when he talks to you. Okay, I fully

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00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>fully understand now because I would ask him very basic

1081
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>logical questions and I have a feeling that would throw

1082
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>off the vibe. Well, look, well, I.

1083
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 3>May be made in nineteen eighty one called Somewhere in

1084
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Time with Reeves. What's his name? Christopher Reeves?

1085
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Christopher Oh.

1086
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say Keanu dude.

1087
00:57:54.639 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 3>No, very different person. But Christopher Reeves meta takes and

1088
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 3>gets into a meditative state and goes back in time.

1089
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:11.159
<v Speaker 3>I think that's somewhat possible. Remote viewing is definitely possible.

1090
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.360
<v Speaker 3>There have been studies on that. It's just that we

1091
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:20.559
<v Speaker 3>don't fully understand it. I don't know what alcohol I

1092
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 3>mean when I drink heavily, I feel like I've time

1093
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 3>traveled if I wake up.

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00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 2>But well, he's not saying that you want to. He's

1095
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>not saying that you want to get shit faced before

1096
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you try in time travel. It's just a couple of

1097
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.599
<v Speaker 2>shots just to give you that little buzz and I

1098
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and I would suggest maybe the reason behind that hypothetically here,

1099
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big drinker, but I would suggest that

1100
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe the reason behind that is so that you can

1101
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 2>get into like a more meditative, relaxed state of mind

1102
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 2>during that session. And so some people have a hard

1103
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.360
<v Speaker 2>time getting into like the meditative state, like some people

1104
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 2>like I know that whenever I first started learning how

1105
00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to meditate, it took me forever to get into a

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00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 2>meditative state. I would do everything that I possibly could.

1107
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I would turn on, you know, the meditation music. I

1108
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.920
<v Speaker 2>would try and sit in the lotus position, and I

1109
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't, like turn my mind off. And so one

1110
00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:12.880
<v Speaker 2>way to turn your mind off would be to dull

1111
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>it out by taking a couple of shots and just

1112
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.760
<v Speaker 2>get you there, because you gotta think about it, like

1113
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.239
<v Speaker 2>it all depends on the way that you look at

1114
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the world. And I know that sounds like a crazy statement.

1115
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm the crazy person, So it just matches, right. But

1116
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 2>if you're somebody who thinks that everything that we live in,

1117
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like this reality is some sort of I don't like

1118
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 2>using the term mental projection. I don't really even like

1119
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.400
<v Speaker 2>using the term simulation because I think that that waters

1120
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:46.039
<v Speaker 2>down the special significance of it. But I think that

1121
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.199
<v Speaker 2>this reality is not what we think it is if

1122
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:51.400
<v Speaker 2>it is indeed mental. And this is what I learned

1123
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 2>by reading the Kabalian the seven Normatic Principles. They believe

1124
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 2>that the All, which is what they call God or

1125
00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the universe or whatever they call it, the All. They

1126
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 2>believe even that book, either three Initiates or you know,

1127
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 2>said one guy, they believe that the universe is mental

1128
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:11.840
<v Speaker 2>or that the all is mental, meaning that like every

1129
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.320
<v Speaker 2>single thing that happens to you is a mental thing

1130
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 2>that is going on. Like And if that's the case

1131
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to time travel, you would suggest that

1132
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:25.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe the best way to be able to do that

1133
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 2>would be from meditation. That's all I'm saying.

1134
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<v Speaker 1>I wish you would look into that dude, not the

1135
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:35.159
<v Speaker 1>three initiates, but the guy who allegedly wrote the book.

1136
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>He is fascinating. I honestly think that you would like it.

1137
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Not to call it a fraud or a fake. Nothing

1138
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of that, I promise you genuinely. The schools that he

1139
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 1>learned from I think you would find fascinating.

1140
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Bro oh dude, all the mystery schools, like the secret

1141
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 2>mystery schools are absolutely a real thing. I mean that

1142
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:56.199
<v Speaker 2>look at secret societies, like if they're secret societies, there

1143
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 2>has to be secret mystery schools. And also remember that

1144
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.800
<v Speaker 2>like this, he didn't come up with the seven Hermetic principles.

1145
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.119
<v Speaker 2>That's been around for a lot longer than the nineteen

1146
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 2>hundreds and so, but maybe you know, this is like

1147
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:15.079
<v Speaker 2>a like an advanced version of it, maybe a more

1148
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 2>evolved version of it. This one gets more into the

1149
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 2>universe and the mental state of mind and the spirit

1150
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Not that hermeticism didn't go into that,

1151
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:28.679
<v Speaker 2>but this is more along the lines of like the metaphysical,

1152
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.519
<v Speaker 2>which you know, way back in the day they weren't

1153
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about specifically like metaphysics, you know.

1154
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could also understand as far as you

1155
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.639
<v Speaker 1>hypnotize me once upon a time, right, and you it's

1156
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 1>best to be sober when you go into a hypnosis

1157
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to chalk up whatever experiences you

1158
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:50.639
<v Speaker 1>had to. Oh, well, that's just because I was a

1159
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 1>little buzzed. Oh that's because I was high. Oh that's

1160
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>because I took a little something beforehand. You don't want

1161
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it. You want it to be a real

1162
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 1>profound experience. However, having that happen the first time, I

1163
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>could see how maybe a couple of shots, or maybe

1164
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.280
<v Speaker 1>a hit offf of a joint or something like that

1165
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 1>could lower your ego, so to speak, and help you

1166
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 1>break through faster once you know what you're doing and

1167
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 1>with experience. But I would also say that varies person

1168
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to person, Like for myself, I know that one shot

1169
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 1>can never just be one shot for me. So that

1170
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do that, and it would not lead to me meditating.

1171
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 1>It would lead to me time traveling. In another regard,

1172
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 1>which I'm gonna be honest, that's the only way I've

1173
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:29.079
<v Speaker 1>ever been able to time travel is with the aid

1174
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 1>of old liquor. Most famously, the time I got introduced

1175
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:36.599
<v Speaker 1>to vod kila and may or may not have been

1176
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 1>sing out of Tijuana. That that time travel I know about.

1177
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 1>But to that point, it's best if I don't go

1178
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 1>to that portal, you know what I mean. But certain people.

1179
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely what if we were to take a an advanced

1180
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:57.320
<v Speaker 2>approach to this hypnotism? Okay, maybe so. Dolores Cannon had

1181
01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:00.119
<v Speaker 2>always stated that she she believed that, you know, her,

1182
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 2>her teachings would evolve into something greater. And you know

1183
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:06.840
<v Speaker 2>she just you know, I mean, it started to evolve

1184
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.400
<v Speaker 2>as she got older, but she was an elderly lady. Dude,

1185
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't going to evolve with her. It started with her.

1186
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.400
<v Speaker 2>That's all we really needed. And and so I always

1187
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 2>looked at that as like challenge accepted. How could I

1188
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:21.480
<v Speaker 2>possibly evolve this thing? And now I have said in

1189
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 2>the past that I don't want anybody taking any kind

1190
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of drugs or alcohol or anything that would be able

1191
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.039
<v Speaker 2>to throw you off. But the reason behind that is

1192
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.159
<v Speaker 2>is because I do want it to be a profound

1193
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 2>experience that you know that it's not just this, it's

1194
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.480
<v Speaker 2>not just that. However, if we take it a different,

1195
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.360
<v Speaker 2>different approach to it, Jacob, correct me if I'm wrong.

1196
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:47.800
<v Speaker 2>You are now podcasting full time. Therefore you're kind of

1197
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:48.480
<v Speaker 2>your own boss.

1198
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I know where you're going with this, and I don't

1199
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 1>know if I want to partake of DMT before a

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01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 1>hit no session.

1201
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 2>How fucking sweet would that be?

1202
01:03:57.400 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Though?

1203
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 1>The only reason why I'm saying no to this, and

1204
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not because I don't trust you as a hypno

1205
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.320
<v Speaker 1>therapist to guide me through through whatever waters we would

1206
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:07.719
<v Speaker 1>find ourselves in.

1207
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:09.880
<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's not it's not just DMT, it's

1208
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 2>four aco DMT. It's it's like mushrooms mixed with DMT.

1209
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:15.960
<v Speaker 1>No doubt, no doubt. The only reason why I'm saying

1210
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that I'm I'm leery of that is because the hypno

1211
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>session itself is fascinating enough, and I don't know if

1212
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I will be able to be present of mind, like

1213
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.800
<v Speaker 1>aside from the foreaco, to actually do the hypno and

1214
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 1>like walk through those steps that I don't know I

1215
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:35.400
<v Speaker 1>might put. I'm putting a.

1216
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Possible one, but I might not even have to induce you.

1217
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.159
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing is that you're already gonna be there.

1218
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Interesting just go into that dimension.

1219
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Right right, and I would just be asking you questions,

1220
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.320
<v Speaker 2>what do you look like? What is your surroundings, what

1221
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 2>are you experiencing? What are your hopes and dreams? And

1222
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, one question that I always like to ask

1223
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.559
<v Speaker 2>of people whenever they're in a in a hypnosis, and

1224
01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I do it almost every single time, but just because

1225
01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 2>of I'm so curious, I always want to ask them

1226
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.400
<v Speaker 2>what are your spiritual beliefs or do you have any

1227
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 2>religious beliefs? Because at that time, dude, that's like getting

1228
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:12.360
<v Speaker 2>somebody to ask. It's like the whole notion as to

1229
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:16.000
<v Speaker 2>what happens whenever you're in a lucid dream. If you

1230
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.960
<v Speaker 2>ask somebody in one of those lucid dreams what time

1231
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:22.559
<v Speaker 2>it is, and they always act really really fucking weird.

1232
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I experienced this myself. I was over at my sister's

1233
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 2>house in this lucid dream. I asked my sister. I

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01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, Hey, what time is it? And she goes, oh,

1235
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Just ask Mattie, which is her daughter.

1236
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:33.760
<v Speaker 2>So I go over and I asked Mattie. I said, hey,

1237
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.639
<v Speaker 2>what time is it, Maddie? And she's like, oh, I

1238
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Ask Anna, which is like the youngest, like

1239
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.679
<v Speaker 2>she's like five, and she's she doesn't even know how

1240
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 2>to read time yet, you know what I mean. And

1241
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why is it? Why is nobody telling me

1242
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:46.639
<v Speaker 2>what time it is? And I could literally I could

1243
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:48.880
<v Speaker 2>look at this at the at the oven, and I

1244
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 2>could see that the time was on there. I knew

1245
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 2>what time it was. I don't remember what it was,

1246
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:55.119
<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't get them to tell me what time

1247
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:59.119
<v Speaker 2>it was. And supposedly that's kind of the matrix starting

1248
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 2>to unfold in trying to get somebody to tell you

1249
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:03.840
<v Speaker 2>what time it is in one of those lucid dreams,

1250
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:06.480
<v Speaker 2>which is strange that that's kind of a look.

1251
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, to find a clock in lucid dreams. I've tried

1252
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 3>to figure out stuff like that. If it's because time

1253
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:18.280
<v Speaker 3>doesn't exist in a dream, Yeah, a dream can literally

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01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 3>the what you experience in the dream could be like

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01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:27.480
<v Speaker 3>a full week, but it's only seven seconds in our reality.

1256
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 3>Like you're the rem sleep where your eyes were moving

1257
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.719
<v Speaker 3>back and forth, that was only lasted for like seven seconds,

1258
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:36.360
<v Speaker 3>but you experienced a week long of information.

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01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Dude.

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01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean you couple that with the fact that you know,

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01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the average human person has like sixty thousand thoughts in

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01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 2>a day. There's not even sixty thousand seconds in a day,

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01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, How are you having that

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01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:54.039
<v Speaker 2>many thoughts? And that's because, like, dude, time is very,

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01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 2>very different whenever it comes to the mind, and especially

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01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.280
<v Speaker 2>whenever it's a dude. Well yeah, dude, yeah for sure.

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01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:03.800
<v Speaker 2>But uh, where I was getting with that was is that, like,

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01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:05.840
<v Speaker 2>if I was to hypnotize you give you a little

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01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:08.880
<v Speaker 2>bit of four aco or maybe just regular old mushrooms.

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01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if not only not only would it be

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01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:15.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot more graphic and a lot more cool and

1272
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 2>everything like that. I wonder what kind of psychic level

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01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.000
<v Speaker 2>shit that we can do. You know what I'm saying,

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01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you might be able to just start fucking levitating,

1275
01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 2>or might you might be able to, you know, have

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01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.119
<v Speaker 2>some kind of telekinetic powers and just start lifting me

1277
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>up off the couch or something crazy. You know what

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01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know if it's

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01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:32.760
<v Speaker 2>ever been done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying no, I'm putting, I'm putting a p

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01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.599
<v Speaker 1>on it. I'm putting I'm putting it possible. Well, well

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01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:40.559
<v Speaker 1>I have to, We'll have to.

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01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Worst thing that the worst thing that could happen. The

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01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.199
<v Speaker 2>worst thing that could happen is that you end up

1285
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.599
<v Speaker 2>having a fucking great trip and it doesn't work, but hey,

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01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you still get a trip out of it.

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01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a very good point. I mean, there

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01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 1>really is no downside when you look at it like that.

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01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, Maddie.

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01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever done psychedelics?

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01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Bro? Yeah?

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01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on that?

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01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:01.559
<v Speaker 1>What do you think? Like?

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01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:03.239
<v Speaker 2>What realm are we jumping into?

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01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:05.119
<v Speaker 3>I think it has a lot to do with your

1296
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:15.000
<v Speaker 3>own subconscious, in your own ego, your predisposed thoughts or perceptions.

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01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 3>But d MT is the one that I don't understand

1298
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:25.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm afraid of, not afraid.

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01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:27.279
<v Speaker 2>But hesitant.

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01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. There's actually a university, I can't remember which one

1301
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 3>that's doing a study on DMT where they're microdosing people

1302
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 3>and they're mapping out that dimension, which i've heard of.

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01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 3>The fact that everybody, or at least a large percentage

1304
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 3>of people have the same exact hallucination means it's no

1305
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:52.199
<v Speaker 3>longer a hallucination, which means it's an actual thing that's

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01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:57.640
<v Speaker 3>out there that we can't perceive without this chemical. So

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01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.840
<v Speaker 3>it's always there. And when you come out of a DMT,

1308
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:06.399
<v Speaker 3>like a a large DMT trip for days, you're seeing

1309
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 3>those trails of what looks like is a tracing on

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01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 3>top of reality. It's like things happening that aren't happening

1311
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:19.800
<v Speaker 3>but you can you can perceive them now because you

1312
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:21.880
<v Speaker 3>get too much of this chemical still in your system.

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01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, that could be dangerous if you're driving and

1314
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you see shit that ain't there.

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01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Well it's not.

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01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:31.039
<v Speaker 2>It's not that it's discernible.

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01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, it's.

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01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Just like in the back of your mind, like it

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01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 3>feels like somebody put a tracing of this dimension over reality.

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01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that you said that. That's exactly my experience

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01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:47.840
<v Speaker 2>on this for Eco DMT, because whenever I come out

1322
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of that, I noticed that there are certain like different

1323
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of renderings to this matrix or reality, whatever you

1324
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 2>want to call it. And maybe, to be honest, I think,

1325
01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 2>like I think this is probably why I'm so much

1326
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 2>into the Woo Woo is because of what I experience

1327
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:04.600
<v Speaker 2>on the four Eco and on the mushrooms and stuff

1328
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like that, because you'll notice that there almost seems to

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01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.920
<v Speaker 2>be some kind of like I hate to sound like

1330
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:13.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of lame whenever I say this, but almost like

1331
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:19.560
<v Speaker 2>light dimensions, like dimensions of different light projections on top

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01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:20.399
<v Speaker 2>of this reality.

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01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:23.880
<v Speaker 3>You can you know, taste color and everything like that.

1334
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:31.880
<v Speaker 3>But mushrooms, I think just obscure. You know, you're actually

1335
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:35.359
<v Speaker 3>a perception of reality. But with enough, I mean, it

1336
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:37.319
<v Speaker 3>could be like Peyote, it could be like all the

1337
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:44.279
<v Speaker 3>other Native American tribal religious stuff that they would have

1338
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 3>to go on vision quest for and find the answers.

1339
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think it just makes you more open to

1340
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:56.279
<v Speaker 3>finding meaning in these and you're subconscious or what have you.

1341
01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:00.880
<v Speaker 3>But with acid, that's a whole different thing all into

1342
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 3>itself because you become more personally I don't know, easily manipulated.

1343
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:12.399
<v Speaker 1>See I will never ever touch it in my life

1344
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 1>because I can't trust the source. I feel like I

1345
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 1>missed the gap of generation where like you had no

1346
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.399
<v Speaker 1>doubts at least if somebody gave you this tab like

1347
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:24.159
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be at least something that wasn't gonna

1348
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.039
<v Speaker 1>kill you. And I can't say for certain that statement anymore.

1349
01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:32.680
<v Speaker 1>So I know the lad that's making the LSD and

1350
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like I know, it's been, it's cleared hot, and it's

1351
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:36.960
<v Speaker 1>good to go. We could add that talk, but it's

1352
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of like cocaine, Like I'm never gonna buy coke

1353
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:41.920
<v Speaker 1>off the street ever in my life because there's no

1354
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.000
<v Speaker 1>See my phone agrees that's a good idea. I'm because

1355
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't trust that it's not cut with something that

1356
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:48.680
<v Speaker 1>will end my life because I was trying to have

1357
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:50.399
<v Speaker 1>a good time, you know what I mean. It's not

1358
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:51.520
<v Speaker 1>worth it to me, dude.

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01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 3>But then you gotta consider a quantum immortality. Do you

1360
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.720
<v Speaker 3>actually die or do you just go back to another

1361
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:01.680
<v Speaker 3>point in your lifeline or do you go into another

1362
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.680
<v Speaker 3>lifeline or do you just cease to exist?

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01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I have my own beliefs on that one. Once I die,

1364
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I know where I go. I'm in my travel arrangements

1365
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.159
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. But that's just Jacob, That's just me.

1366
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 3>But what if it doesn't mean that, like the simulation

1367
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:22.720
<v Speaker 3>theory or at least the metaphysical multiverse portion of it,

1368
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:24.880
<v Speaker 3>doesn't go against Christianity.

1369
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't disagree with the multiverse or multi dimensional

1370
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 1>or extraterrestrial life or any I don't disagree with any

1371
01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of those things. I believe that all of those are

1372
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:36.239
<v Speaker 1>happening at the exact same time, and that the God

1373
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.159
<v Speaker 1>that I worship, or the Creator or the code writer

1374
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 1>to certain people, either way you want to call it

1375
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:45.319
<v Speaker 1>or paint that, I believe that that being is smart

1376
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:47.319
<v Speaker 1>enough and capable enough to make all of these things

1377
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.880
<v Speaker 1>happen on top of each other. And the bitch of

1378
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:52.439
<v Speaker 1>it is, the only way existence can work is if

1379
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.319
<v Speaker 1>we have all of this extra shit happening, because it's

1380
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:57.960
<v Speaker 1>like a Grandfather clock. There are so many gears and

1381
01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.239
<v Speaker 1>cogs inside of that thing that we can't see, but

1382
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:04.239
<v Speaker 1>without them, the clock won't work. Is it overcomplicated? Yes?

1383
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Is it over engineered? Yes? Does it literally have to be? Yes?

1384
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:12.119
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that for whatever reason, the catch twenty

1385
01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 1>two of existence is that for every high, there's got

1386
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a low. For every peak, there's a valley.

1387
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 1>For every good, there's an evil. There's a harmonious balance that,

1388
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:22.520
<v Speaker 1>whether we like it or not, has to exist with

1389
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:25.239
<v Speaker 1>all these layers of infinity topped all over each other,

1390
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:28.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's the only way that this equilibrium that we

1391
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:30.920
<v Speaker 1>found can even work.

1392
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Well. The thing that kind of messes me up is

1393
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:38.000
<v Speaker 3>there's an interview with Bob Lazaar, Yeah, where he's talking

1394
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 3>about the confidence or classified documents or classified file about religion,

1395
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 3>and it's a massive book and he's spread through it,

1396
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 3>I guess, and they how they kept referring to human

1397
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:59.680
<v Speaker 3>beings is as containers. That's all that they would refer

1398
01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:05.000
<v Speaker 3>to humans as its containers, and he never expounds on

1399
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:12.439
<v Speaker 3>containers of what or what what for? Like why that

1400
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.680
<v Speaker 3>that portion of it messes me up because are we

1401
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:20.039
<v Speaker 3>just containers like for the uh Man Now I'm drawing

1402
01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:22.720
<v Speaker 3>a blank on names all the time. But in the

1403
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Book of Enoch with the different in Naki gods that

1404
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 3>came down and they inhabited other bodies in order to

1405
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 3>prolong their life cycle.

1406
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Depending on who you for that maybe depending on who

1407
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.439
<v Speaker 1>you ask, those Anonachi gods may have led to the

1408
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:43.119
<v Speaker 1>prophet you could praise be under his name, praise that

1409
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.479
<v Speaker 1>led to the creation of white people, Like it really

1410
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:48.079
<v Speaker 1>depends on which school of thought you come from. Nation

1411
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of Islam. I'm sure as hell believes that, but whatever.

1412
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, I mean, it's all of for speculation. But Jacob,

1413
01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I kind of did want to get your opinion on this,

1414
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and just hypothetically speaking, if if you weren't and I

1415
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.239
<v Speaker 2>don't mean this in any kind of wrongful way, but

1416
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 2>if you weren't raised religiously and you were looking at

1417
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 2>this just from your own perspective and not not you know,

1418
01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:18.000
<v Speaker 2>suggestible from religion. Whenever we're talking about like you know,

1419
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:21.439
<v Speaker 2>these different dimensions of reality or aliens and stuff like that.

1420
01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Are there different thought processes that then go into your mind,

1421
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Like whenever you see aliens or somebody's talking about multiple

1422
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:31.800
<v Speaker 2>dimensions or something like that, do you have two thoughts

1423
01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.319
<v Speaker 2>the one that says, well, this is what the book says,

1424
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 2>but do you have another thought that says it could

1425
01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:39.199
<v Speaker 2>also be this conjured from my own mind?

1426
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:43.239
<v Speaker 1>So okay, So going off of like, let's say I

1427
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:46.159
<v Speaker 1>was never born into a Christian household. I grew up

1428
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in some village and not like third world country off

1429
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the beaten path countryside of High Germany. You know what

1430
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, We grew up in a non religious household.

1431
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Just kind of whatever about whatever? Right? I mean?

1432
01:15:57.840 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 2>You could have grown up in my childhood and that

1433
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 2>could be, okay, your experience fair enough, fair enough.

1434
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 1>When I would look at aliens or interdimensional beings or

1435
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the glowing orbs that seem to be sentient or whatever,

1436
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.920
<v Speaker 1>all of these things, my just being me, my logical

1437
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.279
<v Speaker 1>brain would definitely believe in some sort of a creator

1438
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:19.560
<v Speaker 1>or group of creators or creative force or something to

1439
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that realm. Because this is way too intricate to not

1440
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 1>be by intelligent design, there's no way all this shit

1441
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:31.920
<v Speaker 1>accidentally just poofed into existence, right, That's that's phallically laughable anyway,

1442
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:36.119
<v Speaker 1>So that aside, how would I look at these beings.

1443
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:40.479
<v Speaker 1>I would see them as potentially where the spawn of

1444
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.920
<v Speaker 1>religion would come from. And I could absolutely understand that

1445
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:49.439
<v Speaker 1>logical process of aliens visit ancient man and gives him

1446
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the basics I'm not even talking about, like cranes and rigging,

1447
01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and like the basics of how to start a fucking fire,

1448
01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:58.880
<v Speaker 1>how to you know, not eat your own shit? Like

1449
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I could see that being a sure the human beings

1450
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:04.600
<v Speaker 1>take that run with it. We have evolution and the

1451
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:09.880
<v Speaker 1>humans praise these beings as some sort of a deity,

1452
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and now we know those to be gods. One thing

1453
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:14.640
<v Speaker 1>leads to another, it spins off to the world's main religions.

1454
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:17.079
<v Speaker 1>That process makes sense to me, sure.

1455
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess more so.

1456
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:19.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, I talk about my dad a lot, but

1457
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 3>he was that he was a theology scholar. And I

1458
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:26.319
<v Speaker 3>asked him, what if aliens just landed on the White

1459
01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:28.680
<v Speaker 3>House lawn and we all knew that they were real, now,

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01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:34.000
<v Speaker 3>what would that do to Christianity? And he said, well,

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01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.600
<v Speaker 3>it just means that we've got a larger mission field.

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01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Yep. He doesn't disprove the Bible to me even a

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01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:40.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:45.439
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but if man is made in God's image and

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01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.880
<v Speaker 3>they are different from us, whose image are they made in?

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01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.680
<v Speaker 1>May I postulate that we don't know what the image

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01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of God actually?

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01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 3>Twic's what he said.

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01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look to that point. Does it mean two

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01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:01.600
<v Speaker 1>eyes and a forward facing head? Does it mean five

1471
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:04.960
<v Speaker 1>fingers and toes? Does it mean a soul with conscious thought?

1472
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's what he meant? This flesh suit? And even

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01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:09.760
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck he meant when he said his image?

1474
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Did he mean our soul is made in his image?

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01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.560
<v Speaker 1>There's so many levels you could break that down, bro.

1476
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, and then you could also go on like this

1477
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.000
<v Speaker 2>is where I you know, I like to kind of

1478
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:22.079
<v Speaker 2>veer off the path here, all right? It said that,

1479
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:24.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, God made us in his image according to

1480
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the Bible? Right, Well, what about the rest of the animals?

1481
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:28.680
<v Speaker 2>What image were they made in?

1482
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1483
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.399
<v Speaker 2>What was he thinking whenever he created a fucking how

1484
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:34.800
<v Speaker 2>with two stomachs? You know what I'm saying? What was

1485
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.560
<v Speaker 2>he thinking whenever he created man's best friend the dog?

1486
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

1487
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all these weird things a tree, Like, what

1488
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:44.199
<v Speaker 2>was he thinking whenever he created the fucking my celial

1489
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:47.960
<v Speaker 2>network of mushrooms underground that allow these these plants to

1490
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 2>communicate with each other?

1491
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1492
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 2>And what what thought did he have that he that

1493
01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:55.239
<v Speaker 2>he like conjured up the idea to even create that.

1494
01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:57.800
<v Speaker 2>That's I think that is some crazy shit, which it

1495
01:18:57.800 --> 01:18:58.960
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get into biblically.

1496
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.239
<v Speaker 3>But was this his first attempt?

1497
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Another great question? That's see, And I get a lot

1498
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of shit for saying that. I don't believe the Bible's

1499
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:10.880
<v Speaker 1>word for were boom boom boom. I think there's a

1500
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:13.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of things open to interpretation, especially when you look

1501
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 1>at Genesis, the creation story. Could it have been boom

1502
01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 1>boom boom exactly as it said? Possibly? Could that be

1503
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the overarching story to answer the big questions without going

1504
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:26.760
<v Speaker 1>into grave detail because we're humans and we can't understand

1505
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the vast concepts of that type of quantum theories and shit.

1506
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Very possibly, Well, before.

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01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:34.399
<v Speaker 2>You even go a little bit farther, I don't mean

1508
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 2>to cut you off, but before you can go a

1509
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:37.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit farther into that, correct me if I'm wrong.

1510
01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Jesus was a Jew right, Yeah, correct, So King the

1511
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Old the Old Testament were his actual beliefs, and if

1512
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>everybody in Christianity follows Jesus, then you would also have

1513
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to follow his beliefs.

1514
01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, well, yes and no. He said that he

1515
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.680
<v Speaker 1>did not come to remove the old laws. He came

1516
01:19:56.720 --> 01:20:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to fulfill them. And as Christians, right we are. He said,

1517
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:04.439
<v Speaker 1>there is no more Jews and Gentiles. There is no

1518
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.119
<v Speaker 1>more of that shit. There is either God's children or

1519
01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:11.399
<v Speaker 1>not God's children. You either accept his grace or you

1520
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:15.079
<v Speaker 1>don't like. Whatever tribe you come from, whatever skin color

1521
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you are, whatever class of society you were born into.

1522
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:19.199
<v Speaker 1>That's gone. Now that you know.

1523
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:21.439
<v Speaker 3>That's different theories on that, because we're going to get

1524
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:27.319
<v Speaker 3>into Calvinists and Arminianism because predestination versus free will, and

1525
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:29.319
<v Speaker 3>that's still a massive debate.

1526
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe both are happening at the same time.

1527
01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But if he knows everything and has a plan

1528
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:38.720
<v Speaker 3>for everything, and knows the outcome of everything, then that

1529
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 3>means he knows who's going to accept and who isn't.

1530
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:43.039
<v Speaker 3>So it's still predestination.

1531
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that he still gives us the free will

1532
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to choose, even though he knows what we're about to choose.

1533
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:50.279
<v Speaker 2>The illusion of free will created us.

1534
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, So I have an example for this, and

1535
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I've given this on the show before. It's been a

1536
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>while since I had the free will versus destiny debate.

1537
01:20:56.640 --> 01:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, let me ask you this, Maddie. Where where

1538
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:03.399
<v Speaker 1>in this mix is the right and wrong or clear

1539
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>cut answer to the situation. Okay, A couple of years back,

1540
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:09.079
<v Speaker 1>single dad, I have my five year or I'm sorry,

1541
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>with three year old son and my one year old

1542
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:13.960
<v Speaker 1>daughter with me at home. Cool. I'm cooking on the stove.

1543
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I turn because I gotta do something in the

1544
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.880
<v Speaker 1>sink and I have to leave the stone the stove on.

1545
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:21.159
<v Speaker 1>My three year old son is like by my side.

1546
01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>He's watching how to cook. I'm teaching him young because

1547
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:26.319
<v Speaker 1>we're in Louisiana and that's how we do things. So

1548
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I turn and I tell him, listen, buddy, don't touch

1549
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the stove.

1550
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:29.479
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1551
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, he's been burned before. He knows what

1552
01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:35.239
<v Speaker 1>fire does. He knows it's hot. Okay, it's not like

1553
01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:37.239
<v Speaker 1>this is the first time and it's a discovery thing.

1554
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I tell him, buddy, don't touch the stove. It's hot.

1555
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do this, but it's gonna burn. You. Do

1556
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:45.119
<v Speaker 1>not touch the stove. Now I know what he's about

1557
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to do, clearly.

1558
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Three.

1559
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm fully aware. But but some lessons have to be

1560
01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>learned the hard way, and that's just the bitch of it. Okay,

1561
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Now he's already learned this lesson once before, So here's

1562
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>no misunderstandings as far as like, oh, you're a bad dad.

1563
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You should know he knows the fire is cool. I turn,

1564
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I do what I'm doing as soon as they do.

1565
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I hear it. That's it. I know it. He's burned.

1566
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:10.399
<v Speaker 1>It's all good. It's a little burn on the finger,

1567
01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>No big deal, right, Okay, Now I pre knew what

1568
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>he was going to do, but I still gave him

1569
01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the free will to do it. Now, where's the clear

1570
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:22.359
<v Speaker 1>cut on that? Was it destiny or do we have.

1571
01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Free weeper into it? Because then you've got the part

1572
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.319
<v Speaker 3>and whole principle, because what you're talking about is sin

1573
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.239
<v Speaker 3>versus not sinning. But with the part and whole principle,

1574
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 3>if you're dwelling on doing something you're not supposed to

1575
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:34.880
<v Speaker 3>do in God's eyes, you've already committed that sin. So

1576
01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:37.840
<v Speaker 3>in a human aspect of it. Why not just do

1577
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:38.960
<v Speaker 3>it if you're already guilty.

1578
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, let me throw an extra inch in the

1579
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:44.159
<v Speaker 1>gears real quick. Unbeknownst to my son, before he touched

1580
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the stove, my one year old daughter walked up behind him.

1581
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know. Okay, when he touched the stove, he

1582
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:52.279
<v Speaker 1>reared back elbows her in the face. Now she has

1583
01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a broken nose. Who did nothing wrong, wrong place, wrong time.

1584
01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Bad shit happens to good people. Where's the predestiny versus

1585
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.039
<v Speaker 1>face versus whatever in this?

1586
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Let's let's go with the oracle and the matrix. Had

1587
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you not told him not to touch the stove, would

1588
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:09.560
<v Speaker 3>he have even noticed the stove?

1589
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>He was literally standing next to me, cooking with me.

1590
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:14.960
<v Speaker 3>He knew the stove was there, but would he have

1591
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.239
<v Speaker 3>had the thought to touch it? And then he busted

1592
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:19.960
<v Speaker 3>his sister.

1593
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So let's put that to the road. The rules. He

1594
01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>told us, hey, do these things. Don't do this stuff,

1595
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And he told us what would happen if we did

1596
01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. He's giving us the free will to do

1597
01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>what the hell we want with. He knows what we're

1598
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>going to do, because he literally made all this. He

1599
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:41.880
<v Speaker 1>knows what's up. But he's still giving us the free

1600
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>will to make our choices so that when the time

1601
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.279
<v Speaker 1>comes when we do have to stand in account for it,

1602
01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>we have to stand on our choices.

1603
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to blow some minds very quick, okay, for

1604
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that it actually is both, because I think

1605
01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:59.439
<v Speaker 2>that it's called destiny called fate. I prefer destiny over

1606
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>fate I think is kind of fatal and not a

1607
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>good thing anyway.

1608
01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Is what you make?

1609
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Right? Right? You know you'd like to see homos nakedated?

1610
01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I know, I just it made me think of that.

1611
01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:17.239
<v Speaker 2>But check it out, all right. So in any given situation,

1612
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>most people in their minds have two things, two possible

1613
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:26.239
<v Speaker 2>things that they can do in any kind of situation,

1614
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>either A I'm gonna do this or B I'm gonna

1615
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:33.479
<v Speaker 2>do that, whatever it is. At every single every single

1616
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>move that you make, you probably only have two choices

1617
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:39.199
<v Speaker 2>in your mind. And usually depending on if you're in

1618
01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a good mood or a bad mood, that's how that

1619
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>will go. Like, if you're in a good mood, maybe

1620
01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you'll make the better choice. If you're in a bad mood, MA,

1621
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>fuck this whole day right yesterday, dude, yesterday was just

1622
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>from start to finish an absolute shit day for me.

1623
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday well, with the exception of a show that we

1624
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:59.000
<v Speaker 2>went on but which was awesome. By the way, definitely

1625
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.239
<v Speaker 2>go check out the Nephelin Death Squad. We just made

1626
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:03.159
<v Speaker 2>a guest appearance on there, talked about the Shroud of

1627
01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Turn which has been a little minute, but yeah, we

1628
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:07.239
<v Speaker 2>just made some new homies over there. It was awesome.

1629
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:09.159
<v Speaker 3>We did gel Like you guys have done a bunch

1630
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:10.479
<v Speaker 3>of shows on the Shroud of Turnad.

1631
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, we keep getting invited places to talk about

1632
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, all right, I'm down to me.

1633
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I listened to the one you did with the Tinfoil

1634
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:23.840
<v Speaker 3>hat podcast where you talked about it the first time,

1635
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I think, and I'm like, dude, to me, it's just

1636
01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:28.680
<v Speaker 3>an old cloth.

1637
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>So so hold on, you know that.

1638
01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I know there's so much more to it, but like

1639
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't care.

1640
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:42.079
<v Speaker 1>I get that, I get there, but it is. It

1641
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>is the most heavily uh studied and scrutinized artifact in

1642
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>history that we have, Like more so than all the

1643
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>tombs and all the mummies and all the everything. This

1644
01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>artifact has been analyzed and reanalyzed and all it's insane,

1645
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>and it's still somehow debated. It's but all right, look,

1646
01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I care about these things.

1647
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I do want to get back.

1648
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:03.680
<v Speaker 3>It's but go ahead.

1649
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I do want to get back to the shroud. But

1650
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to finish out this thought first. So all right,

1651
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's say you always have two possible outcomes, or two

1652
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:13.079
<v Speaker 2>possible choices to any kind of decision that you're about

1653
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>to make in your mind. You're limited for the most

1654
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>part to those two choices. It's a very binary system.

1655
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, you want to go red, you want to

1656
01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>go blue, you want to go black, you want to

1657
01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>go white. You're playing check checkers or chess, you're gonna

1658
01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:28.239
<v Speaker 2>go you know, black piece, white piece, whatever. Right, It

1659
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>always seems to be a very binary kind of system.

1660
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:36.239
<v Speaker 2>And I would suggest that that is where destiny really

1661
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>plays into it. Or if you want to talk about

1662
01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:42.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe God's will or God's plan of whatever, you know

1663
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be going through because if you're if

1664
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:49.039
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at like a maze, for example, usually if

1665
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you're an amaze, you're in one of those like corn

1666
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>mazes or you know whatever, those those weird what are

1667
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:59.239
<v Speaker 2>those like a labyrinth kind of thing. I was thinking,

1668
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:03.279
<v Speaker 2>like those those trap shit, what do they call it?

1669
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Something like that anyway, But if you're in one of those,

1670
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you can usually only go left or right or forward

1671
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>or backward right, and so you're very limited on your choice.

1672
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>So is that ages escape room? That's where I was

1673
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to go. But whenever you have two choices, is

1674
01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>it necessarily free will? If it's narrowed down to only

1675
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:25.760
<v Speaker 2>two choices? And I'll take it even a step further here,

1676
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>all right, So what they've discovered at the quantum level

1677
01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>is that you know, in all reality there's ones in zeros,

1678
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:34.279
<v Speaker 2>but in the quantum, in the quantum realm, in the

1679
01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>at the at a very tiny quantum perspective, it's not

1680
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.079
<v Speaker 2>one or zero. It can be one and zero or

1681
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>zero and one, or zero and zero or one and

1682
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>one and all these different combinations of it. So maybe

1683
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>at the quantum realm, which I would will, I think

1684
01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:55.239
<v Speaker 2>it's an illusion of free will. It's basically what I'm

1685
01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 2>trying to get to. And not not necessarily to say

1686
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:00.880
<v Speaker 2>that like we're being controlled or or something like that.

1687
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I just think that we have limited capabilities. You know,

1688
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.199
<v Speaker 2>we talk about on here before it's like, all right,

1689
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.479
<v Speaker 2>well we can only see one percent of the light spectrum. Okay,

1690
01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>well that's definitely a thing. That means we can't see

1691
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent of whatever the fuck is all around us,

1692
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>all the different light, all the different you know, all

1693
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the different colors and everything.

1694
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1695
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I just think that this reality we're very limited as

1696
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>far as our capabilities physically go. I think physically, but

1697
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I think the rest is mental and maybe even mentally

1698
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:32.279
<v Speaker 2>we're a little bit limited as well.

1699
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, well, you also have all those stories of children

1700
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:42.159
<v Speaker 3>seeing ghosts and stuff like that, like maybe they're more

1701
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:44.439
<v Speaker 3>open to that realm.

1702
01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I personally believe that I had a demonic and angelic

1703
01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:54.079
<v Speaker 1>experience in my adolescence. I fully believe that children have

1704
01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:58.319
<v Speaker 1>uh what's the word. Depending on which school thought you

1705
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>come from, you could argue that it's because their pineal

1706
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:05.279
<v Speaker 1>glands haven't been calcified enough to discern between the spiritual

1707
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>realm and the real world real world. Excuse me, And

1708
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that said before, and that there's some facts

1709
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to that. I also believe that certain people are born

1710
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:19.279
<v Speaker 1>more spiritually attuned than others. You have certain people that

1711
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:22.159
<v Speaker 1>pick up on vibes a lot better and easier than

1712
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>other people. And I'm not saying I'm one of those.

1713
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Mine could be a complete fluke for all I know.

1714
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I believe that these entities reach out to specific people

1715
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>for specific reasons at different points in life. But to

1716
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>your point, yes, children, I believe absolutely. If you look

1717
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>on Mass how many people experience ghosts or shadow man

1718
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>or whatever kind of these these figures, these entities whatever,

1719
01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>on Mass it's children more than adults. Now, A little

1720
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 1>bit of that can be attributed to a child's imagination,

1721
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and like the thing in their closet that in the

1722
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.039
<v Speaker 1>dark looks scary, come to find out it's a sweater

1723
01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:57.079
<v Speaker 1>that was balled up, a little bit of that. Yes,

1724
01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:01.159
<v Speaker 1>But I truly do believe that children are more open

1725
01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to spirituality being like in their face than adults are.

1726
01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, and the reason behind that could be And this

1727
01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:10.119
<v Speaker 2>is something that I learned. I didn't know that this

1728
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>was even a thing. But as we talk about like

1729
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the brain wave state and stuff like that, there's alpha, beta, theta,

1730
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:20.359
<v Speaker 2>and delta right well, as a little kid, they they

1731
01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>have to they have to grow into you know, almost

1732
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:29.560
<v Speaker 2>like their little minds have to evolve over time because

1733
01:30:29.720 --> 01:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>as a little kid, and especially little babies, I mean

1734
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>babies sleep most of the day, right, So most of

1735
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the day they're in delta, which is sleep, and whenever

1736
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>they're awake, they're in theta, right. So this is why

1737
01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:42.800
<v Speaker 2>they're possibly able to see, you know, monsters in the

1738
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>closet or goes under the bed or whatever, right like

1739
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:48.279
<v Speaker 2>all these little things, because they're in that data state

1740
01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>of mind, which is only happening the moments before you

1741
01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:54.039
<v Speaker 2>fall asleep, or the moment right after you wake up,

1742
01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:57.079
<v Speaker 2>or whenever you're in a meditative state such as a hypnosis.

1743
01:30:57.840 --> 01:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>This is why you're able to perceive those things under

1744
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:02.319
<v Speaker 2>a hips or in a meditation, because you're in that

1745
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>data state of mind, which if you ever had one

1746
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of those feelings. I know, Jacob, you don't really dream

1747
01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>all that often, but dude, this happens to me all

1748
01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:12.399
<v Speaker 2>the time. Right before I'm about to fall asleep, I'll

1749
01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:13.279
<v Speaker 2>start music.

1750
01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.279
<v Speaker 3>You hear the music before you go into a lucid dream.

1751
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, not necessarily a lucid dream, but right before

1752
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I go to sleep. Sometimes I'll start dreaming before I'm asleep,

1753
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>and I know that I'm still awake. You ever had

1754
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>that before?

1755
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I hear colliope music.

1756
01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>What kind of your music? Is it a harp? Dude?

1757
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Is it what you're listening to? Like a circus?

1758
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>That is I'm jealous. I'm jealous of you.

1759
01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>And then also when I getting real excited and I'm like,

1760
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:46.760
<v Speaker 3>oh it's about to.

1761
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Go down, I'm jealous of you too. You fucking can

1762
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>halfway dream when you're still in the practice sleep.

1763
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I've been practicing since twenty fifteen.

1764
01:31:57.439 --> 01:31:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Damn to be aware in your dream so that you

1765
01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>can have more lucid Yeah, hell yeah, dude. It's it's

1766
01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>hard to stick to because sometimes you just want to crash,

1767
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

1768
01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:09.119
<v Speaker 3>So you have to go into a log. You've got

1769
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:12.119
<v Speaker 3>to do it the same way every time. You've got

1770
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.399
<v Speaker 3>to have a mantra. Right.

1771
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.279
<v Speaker 1>A buddy Line of the Marine Corps that did that.

1772
01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:18.159
<v Speaker 1>He kept a dream journal and the way that he

1773
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>was able and I didn't know any of the science

1774
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:23.439
<v Speaker 1>behind lucid dreaming. This was back twenty eleven. He was

1775
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>fucking around with this and he realized after about two

1776
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>weeks of keeping notes of his dreams his thing that

1777
01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he would notice. And it's funny that y'all mentioned time

1778
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>and clocks. As a matter of fact, his thing that

1779
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>he would notice it'd always be a clock, and it

1780
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a digital clock. It'd be a clock with arms

1781
01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>on it that would have like a thousand numbers on it.

1782
01:32:42.439 --> 01:32:45.239
<v Speaker 1>That would be the thing that he would see somewhere

1783
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:48.399
<v Speaker 1>in his walk through where he would realize, oh, I'm

1784
01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>in a dream and he would just like do whatever

1785
01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the fuck he wanted. And I'm like, I thought he

1786
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:54.239
<v Speaker 1>was full of shit. And then as I met you, Jonathan,

1787
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and have learned more about these states of being, these

1788
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:58.079
<v Speaker 1>states of dreaming and all of that, it's like, all right,

1789
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>my boy's probably a full on show Almond right now,

1790
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>somewhere off in the mountains, you know what I mean.

1791
01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Probably, dude. But where I was trying to get to

1792
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>is that you know, little kids they walk around, especially

1793
01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:10.159
<v Speaker 2>like if you're under seven, this is what they say,

1794
01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:13.039
<v Speaker 2>like usually it's in the the baby until you're about

1795
01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:15.680
<v Speaker 2>six or six and a half years old, that you're

1796
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.760
<v Speaker 2>walking around in the Theta state of mind, which is

1797
01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>why they're able to learn at a much faster pace

1798
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>than grown ups, because that's the best way to be

1799
01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:24.520
<v Speaker 2>able to learn That's that's why a lot of people

1800
01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>they go to sleep listening to affirmations because the subconscious

1801
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.840
<v Speaker 2>is there or you're also listening to it right before

1802
01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you fall to right before you fall asleep, so you're

1803
01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:36.039
<v Speaker 2>you're getting that information as you're in that data state

1804
01:33:36.079 --> 01:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>of mind, you're able to soak that up even more.

1805
01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:41.159
<v Speaker 2>So that's like the scientific reason. But like moving forward,

1806
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the older you get, then you start to develop, all right, Well,

1807
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>once the kid turns six or seven or eight, it's

1808
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:49.199
<v Speaker 2>usually somewhere in there that they then learn how to

1809
01:33:49.399 --> 01:33:52.079
<v Speaker 2>go into that light trance mode where it's not as

1810
01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:55.399
<v Speaker 2>such of a like a crazy trance as THETA is,

1811
01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:57.479
<v Speaker 2>but it's in that light trance where you're kind of

1812
01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like watching TV or whatever, and you're you're kind of

1813
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:05.359
<v Speaker 2>paying it tension, but you're also still not fully here

1814
01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>in like the physical world like you are, but like

1815
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:13.279
<v Speaker 2>mentally you're still also like in that imagination kind of mind,

1816
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:15.159
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And then it's not until

1817
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:19.359
<v Speaker 2>like ten or eleven that they actually develop into beta.

1818
01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I said. Alpha is the light trans Alpha

1819
01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:25.079
<v Speaker 2>is the light trans Beta is the fully aware. But

1820
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.039
<v Speaker 2>like that's why you know, little kids they stop believing

1821
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in Santa Claus usually around seven, eight, nine ten, somewhere

1822
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>in there. They stop believing in toofair, they stop believing

1823
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>in the Easter Bunny and shit like that, because now

1824
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.039
<v Speaker 2>they're more guy, I guess, like experienced in this physical world.

1825
01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:42.079
<v Speaker 2>So they're you know what I mean like, And so

1826
01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that's why they're that's why there's so much I don't

1827
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>want to say gullible, but this is why they're They

1828
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.359
<v Speaker 2>able to have that imagination and they can play with

1829
01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>toys and great old scenes and stuff like that.

1830
01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:59.000
<v Speaker 3>But I still play with trucks like I could still tear.

1831
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>It, get down with some legos, dude all day.

1832
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Fuck it. But but anyway, this too though, as far

1833
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:08.479
<v Speaker 1>as the uh, the sleeping goes. Dude, I remember how

1834
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>we told about ASMR and I told you I had

1835
01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>found my ASMR. Dude, I have to tell you it's

1836
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>been confirmed now because we just had that hurricane blow

1837
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:21.359
<v Speaker 1>through or Hurricane fran scene. Bro. I had shingles ripped

1838
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:23.439
<v Speaker 1>off my roof the storm. The eye of the storm

1839
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>passed over us. I slept like a baby. Oh my god,

1840
01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.079
<v Speaker 1>the sound of chaos and just shit going everywhere. Oh

1841
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:34.359
<v Speaker 1>my God, it was out cold. It was beautiful, beautiful

1842
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:35.039
<v Speaker 1>some to it.

1843
01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Dude, And you know, it's funny, we were actually listen

1844
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:40.560
<v Speaker 2>this is this is gonna sound like a little deranged,

1845
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.800
<v Speaker 2>but like we were listening to this like super weird

1846
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>meditation the other day on Meta Mysteries, and it was

1847
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>like really really fucking chaotic, Like you're listening to it

1848
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, these are very like strange sounds that

1849
01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you'd never heard, and so it kind of would probably

1850
01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:57.359
<v Speaker 2>stress out a regular person. But for me, dude, I

1851
01:35:57.399 --> 01:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can relax now. And my said was

1852
01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I do big time. But my mindset was, oh, finally

1853
01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>something that is crazier in the mind than me, you know,

1854
01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>isn't that weird?

1855
01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, I listened to bineural beats and multidirectional tones a lot,

1856
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:23.279
<v Speaker 3>and especially if I'm trying to concentrate on something, and

1857
01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:26.159
<v Speaker 3>if I get binural beats or music with that's just

1858
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:30.479
<v Speaker 3>bineural and goes back and forth, it helps me concentrate.

1859
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:34.439
<v Speaker 3>But then when I do the multidirectional tones, it actually

1860
01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:41.159
<v Speaker 3>massages my brain. Like it's so weird. Yeah, yeah, that's

1861
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.760
<v Speaker 3>mostly what I listened to. I think it was like

1862
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.319
<v Speaker 3>Reality Revolution back back in the day when I would

1863
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:51.199
<v Speaker 3>try and have a guided meditation or guided lucid dream,

1864
01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>and there's a ton of them now, but that was

1865
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the best one that I found.

1866
01:36:55.319 --> 01:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>You say directional, we're not just talking about like like

1867
01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>going from left to right ear like. It sounds like

1868
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:01.119
<v Speaker 1>it's going like from.

1869
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Forward to the front of your head. It's so weird

1870
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:09.359
<v Speaker 3>how they can do it with just headphones.

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01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Now, that is insane. And this I've never even heard

1872
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:12.039
<v Speaker 1>of that.

1873
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And this is exactly where we go back into the

1874
01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:19.760
<v Speaker 2>mind possibly of the MK ultra Thomas Crooks.

1875
01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, we've gotten way off the path

1876
01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:24.720
<v Speaker 1>of the Trump situation and we have Maddy Ice on

1877
01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:26.159
<v Speaker 1>we do need to get back to it.

1878
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because we're trying to get into the mind

1879
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:32.039
<v Speaker 2>of somebody who's being manipulated, and especially somebody at a

1880
01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:34.439
<v Speaker 2>young age who was picked on. Maybe he wants to

1881
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.119
<v Speaker 2>take a little bit of control of his life. He

1882
01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:40.079
<v Speaker 2>was probably approached by CIA, FBI, some kind of agency

1883
01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>that is very uh not good, you know, And who's

1884
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to say they wouldn't just take advantage of it. They

1885
01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:52.800
<v Speaker 2>they they target those kind of uh individuals, right right,

1886
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean dude, it doesn't take a lot to convince

1887
01:37:56.880 --> 01:38:00.399
<v Speaker 2>somebody who is kind of kicked in the dirt, who

1888
01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a lot going for them, is always picked on,

1889
01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:07.439
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have high confidence, somebody who just wants to get

1890
01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.720
<v Speaker 2>back at the fucking world that has been picking on

1891
01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:13.119
<v Speaker 2>me my entire life. And wouldn't the best way to

1892
01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>take advantage of that situation if you were to capitalize

1893
01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:20.479
<v Speaker 2>on somebody like that, all right, you want to change

1894
01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:23.479
<v Speaker 2>history for the rest of the world. Your name will

1895
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:25.239
<v Speaker 2>go down to the history books to take out this

1896
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>evil orange man. I don't know. I think that would

1897
01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>be pretty easy to convince somebody like that.

1898
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:35.039
<v Speaker 3>And I believe it was nineteen ninety two the United States.

1899
01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:37.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was the military or the

1900
01:38:37.079 --> 01:38:40.760
<v Speaker 3>CIA or whoever, but they had a patent on electronic

1901
01:38:40.840 --> 01:38:45.039
<v Speaker 3>Manipulation of the nervous system or digital manipulation of the

1902
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>nervous system, and it had a diagram with basically it

1903
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:51.840
<v Speaker 3>looked like a picture of a TV with waves coming

1904
01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:57.319
<v Speaker 3>out and going into somebody's brain. That patent expired and

1905
01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:03.479
<v Speaker 3>Purdue University in twenty eighteen came out with a massive

1906
01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:10.000
<v Speaker 3>study on subliminal manipulation of the nervous system with electronic equipment,

1907
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:11.680
<v Speaker 3>so they don't even have to be in the room

1908
01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:14.680
<v Speaker 3>with you. They don't They can just send a signal

1909
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:19.279
<v Speaker 3>and it subliminally goes into your mind and can implant

1910
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:23.319
<v Speaker 3>an idea. And the study that they cited was they

1911
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:27.079
<v Speaker 3>had somebody just was supposed to just sit in this

1912
01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:30.119
<v Speaker 3>room and complete a task and then just wait for

1913
01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:32.600
<v Speaker 3>them to come back in the room. And this dude

1914
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:37.760
<v Speaker 3>was doing whatever task they had and then he just

1915
01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>got up, left the building, went down the street to

1916
01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.359
<v Speaker 3>a gas station, bought a coke, and then came back

1917
01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:48.520
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, why'd you leave? He goes, I wanted

1918
01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:52.119
<v Speaker 3>a coke, but we told you not to. And he's like,

1919
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I just felt like I was thirsty, and I knew

1920
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.039
<v Speaker 3>that I wanted a Coca Cola. And they had been

1921
01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:05.039
<v Speaker 3>playing or basically bombarding his nervous system with these waves,

1922
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:09.479
<v Speaker 3>and the one thing that they kept saying over and

1923
01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:13.039
<v Speaker 3>over again was you're thirsty, You're thirsty, You're thirsty, until

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01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 3>the point where he just had enough and he just

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01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:16.840
<v Speaker 3>got up and left and then came back.

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01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I got it pulled up.

1927
01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:22.359
<v Speaker 2>I got it pulled up right here, let's go this

1928
01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:26.800
<v Speaker 2>is off of justia patents dot com. But it gets

1929
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>into certain this might be the one that you're talking about,

1930
01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>but this is. If it's not, then it's a very

1931
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>closely related one. Subliminal acoustic manipulation of nervous systems.

1932
01:40:37.279 --> 01:40:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that kind has expired. It's actually outdated and

1933
01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.000
<v Speaker 3>they have way better technology that they can use now.

1934
01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:49.319
<v Speaker 3>In fact, Budweiser and McDonald's boasted last year that they

1935
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:56.039
<v Speaker 3>would be able to advertise to their customers in their

1936
01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:58.600
<v Speaker 3>sleep before the Super Bowl.

1937
01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I bet Budweiser was looking into doing this.

1938
01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:05.159
<v Speaker 1>They really took a step in the wrong direction when

1939
01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they went woke and then like went back on their

1940
01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>wokeness and then bud Light was considered like the gayest

1941
01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>beer of all time and all that type of shit.

1942
01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet bud Wiser was looking at doing some subliminal

1943
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:18.439
<v Speaker 1>shit to get sales back up.

1944
01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean yeah, Shane Gillis is like the

1945
01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:26.399
<v Speaker 2>fucking the trophy wife of bud Wiser now, but.

1946
01:41:26.760 --> 01:41:29.479
<v Speaker 1>They had to go so far in the opposite direction.

1947
01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:32.359
<v Speaker 1>The guy that can just offend everybody but make everybody

1948
01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>feel good about it. They had him and post Malone.

1949
01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, I want to.

1950
01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Just made a song called a Guy for That with

1951
01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Luke Combs. I guess his name, And one of the

1952
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:48.720
<v Speaker 3>lines is I know a vip up at M I

1953
01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:51.920
<v Speaker 3>T who still won't let me drive the time machine?

1954
01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>What does he say that? Or does does the old

1955
01:41:57.319 --> 01:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>country singer say that?

1956
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Luke Combes? Oh?

1957
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Luke Comb said it. Wait isn't that the one

1958
01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:03.479
<v Speaker 1>that looks like Beavis?

1959
01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, well he I don't know if he looks

1960
01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:06.520
<v Speaker 3>like Beavis, but.

1961
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>He was the judge from America whatever American idol.

1962
01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you're thinking of the guy who's with

1963
01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking is it Christina Aguilera or some shit?

1964
01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>No, no, not Blake Shelton. He was the one that

1965
01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was next to Katy Perry listening to like All the Wild.

1966
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy is Luke Comb.

1967
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, Luke Comb's good old country boy. That's

1968
01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:30.199
<v Speaker 1>good things right there. Yeah?

1969
01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, So I want to read this out because

1970
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:36.039
<v Speaker 2>I was starting to skim through it, and holy shit, dude,

1971
01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:40.159
<v Speaker 2>this is a patent, all right. So the subliminal acoustic

1972
01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>manipulation of nervous systems, this was patented, I believe in

1973
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:48.159
<v Speaker 2>oh on Halloween nineteen ninety seven.

1974
01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:52.279
<v Speaker 3>It says that's when this article was written.

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01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's when this was written.

1976
01:42:54.079 --> 01:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay.

1977
01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:59.560
<v Speaker 2>It says in human subjects, sensory resonances can be excited

1978
01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:03.359
<v Speaker 2>by some liminal atmospheric acoustic pulses that are tuned to

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01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the resonant frequency. The half Hurts sensory resonance affects the

1980
01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:15.439
<v Speaker 2>atomic autonomic nervous system and may cause relaxation, drowsiness, or

1981
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:21.159
<v Speaker 2>sexual excitement, depending on the precise acoustic acoustic frequency near

1982
01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>a half of a Hurtz used. The effects of the

1983
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:27.399
<v Speaker 2>two and a half Hurts resonance include a slowing of

1984
01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>certain cortical processes, sleepiness, and disorientation. For these effects to occur,

1985
01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the acoustic intensity must lie in a certain deeply subliminal range.

1986
01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Suitable apparatus consists of a portable, battery powered source of

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01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:48.560
<v Speaker 2>weak subaudio acoustic radiation. The method and apparatus can be

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01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:51.960
<v Speaker 2>used by the general public as an aid to relaxation, sleep,

1989
01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:55.720
<v Speaker 2>or sexual arousal, and clinically for the control and perhaps

1990
01:43:55.800 --> 01:44:01.680
<v Speaker 2>treatment of insomnia, tremors, epileptic seizures, and anxiety disorders. There

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01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:04.680
<v Speaker 2>is further application as a non lethal weapon that can

1992
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:09.079
<v Speaker 2>be used in law enforcement standoff situations for causing drowsiness

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01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and disorientation in targeted subjects.

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01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what they used to disperse crowds now. But

1995
01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the thing that I was actually referencing, do you remember

1996
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:27.079
<v Speaker 3>in Desert Storm? Well when was Desert Storm? Was that

1997
01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:27.920
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety one?

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01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1999
01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So at the beginning of the Golf Coast whatever thing,

2000
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:43.439
<v Speaker 3>all of the Iraqi soldiers were just surrendering in mass

2001
01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:47.039
<v Speaker 3>to whatever American they could find. They would just surrender,

2002
01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:51.600
<v Speaker 3>and they it's not like that they were inexperienced or

2003
01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:55.279
<v Speaker 3>bad soldiers. They had just been at seven year war

2004
01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:59.760
<v Speaker 3>with Iran and had been battle tested and hardened warriors,

2005
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:07.560
<v Speaker 3>and they're just surrendering. And the Iraqi intelligence found a

2006
01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:11.600
<v Speaker 3>radio tower in the town of Kafji in Saudi Arabia

2007
01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:16.359
<v Speaker 3>that was broadcasting a subliminal signal out over all of

2008
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:24.199
<v Speaker 3>Iraq and Saddam Hussein. The only large ground battle that

2009
01:45:24.439 --> 01:45:29.000
<v Speaker 3>the Iraqi army actually accomplished was the Battle of Kafji,

2010
01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:33.560
<v Speaker 3>and the only objective they had was destroy that radio tower.

2011
01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:39.079
<v Speaker 3>And once they did that, their army or personnel stopped

2012
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:42.960
<v Speaker 3>surrendering and they found out that the signal that was

2013
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:46.319
<v Speaker 3>broadcasting was giving a feeling of hopelessness.

2014
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, that wasn't a bad feeling for them

2015
01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to have, because even once they did start fighting back,

2016
01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>we had the entire country pretty much wrapped up with

2017
01:45:57.800 --> 01:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a bow in two weeks because the nobody actually knew

2018
01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>what the United States military industrial complex was capable love

2019
01:46:05.239 --> 01:46:09.199
<v Speaker 1>up into and including radio waves that can mentally fuck

2020
01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>with the enemy. No one had known that we had

2021
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that type of technology, and allegedly we may or may not.

2022
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I think this article breaks it down, but Desert Storm

2023
01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:21.199
<v Speaker 1>was pretty much the politicians didn't have the opportunity to

2024
01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>tell everybody to slow down and make a game of

2025
01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:26.079
<v Speaker 1>it and make it time consuming and money concerned.

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01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:26.520
<v Speaker 3>We need.

2027
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Well see, there's a whole other thought process on that.

2028
01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:35.399
<v Speaker 1>We did bring it up slightly when we talked about

2029
01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Saddam Hussein's space gun. That was a whole thing. But allegedly,

2030
01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:44.119
<v Speaker 1>not only was he trying to make a space cannon,

2031
01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>he may or may not have been making a stargate

2032
01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:49.079
<v Speaker 1>that King Nebukanezer used to go to the other side.

2033
01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.399
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing on that, it's the whole thing but

2034
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>to your point, Yeah, Desert Storm was so wild and

2035
01:46:55.439 --> 01:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>quick because the military was pretty much let off the

2036
01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:02.359
<v Speaker 1>leash to go and attack before the politicians had time

2037
01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to make rules of engagement and how we have to

2038
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:07.039
<v Speaker 1>do it. It was done in like two weeks, So

2039
01:47:08.479 --> 01:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think this actually has more of a legis stand

2040
01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:12.359
<v Speaker 1>all on what people really give it credit for.

2041
01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Dude, check this shit out. It gets even crazier. It

2042
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:20.520
<v Speaker 2>says there is an embodiment suitable for law enforcement operations

2043
01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:23.720
<v Speaker 2>in which a subject's nervous system is manipulated from a

2044
01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:29.319
<v Speaker 2>considerable distance, as in a standoff situation. Subliminal subaudio acoustic

2045
01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:33.479
<v Speaker 2>pulses that the subject's location may may then be induced

2046
01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>by acoustic waves radiating from a venting acoustic monopole or

2047
01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:41.760
<v Speaker 2>by a pulsed air jet, especially when aimed at the

2048
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:45.279
<v Speaker 2>subject or at another material surface where the jet velocity

2049
01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:50.520
<v Speaker 2>fluctuations are wholly or partly converted into static pressure fluctuations.

2050
01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>The described psychological effects occur only if the intensity of

2051
01:47:54.640 --> 01:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the acoustic simulation or stimulation falls in a certain range

2052
01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:03.680
<v Speaker 2>called the the effective intensity window. This window has been

2053
01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:07.119
<v Speaker 2>measured in exploratory fashion for the two and a half

2054
01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:08.119
<v Speaker 2>hurts resonance.

2055
01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

2056
01:48:11.039 --> 01:48:12.359
<v Speaker 2>That is nuts.

2057
01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Along with that, with the technology that we have now

2058
01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:22.840
<v Speaker 3>since this is almost twenty five years old, imagine with

2059
01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:26.680
<v Speaker 3>the ability that they have to manipulate your algorithm in

2060
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:30.199
<v Speaker 3>the videos that you see on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all

2061
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:35.359
<v Speaker 3>of that stuff. If there's a frequency or a blue

2062
01:48:35.439 --> 01:48:40.079
<v Speaker 3>light or whatever that is giving you subliminal messages, and

2063
01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:46.520
<v Speaker 3>they are constantly bombarding you with one specific rabbit hole

2064
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:52.000
<v Speaker 3>or one specific thought process, and then have this subliminally

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01:48:52.079 --> 01:48:56.399
<v Speaker 3>going into you. So you see a video about Donald

2066
01:48:56.399 --> 01:49:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Trump being bad and it's given you a US subliminal message,

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01:49:01.039 --> 01:49:03.159
<v Speaker 3>and then you see another video of Donald Trump being bad,

2068
01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:04.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you see another one. So you're just in

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01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:08.399
<v Speaker 3>your own echo chamber of manipulation, right.

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01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and also if you're putting people into a

2071
01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:17.600
<v Speaker 2>weaker state of mind via you know, certain acoustic pulses

2072
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that are messing with your you know, your nervous system,

2073
01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and then you're feeding in that subliminal information as far

2074
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>as Trump is bad, well, now you're putting that person

2075
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>at a weaker stance mentally and therefore going to be

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01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.000
<v Speaker 2>totally accepting of whatever the subliminal message or the outright

2077
01:49:36.039 --> 01:49:39.319
<v Speaker 2>message is because that person is then going to say,

2078
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>my brain is obviously not smarter than the brain of

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01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the person that's telling me this information, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to go along with it. This is how powerful

2081
01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:52.199
<v Speaker 2>manipulation of the mind is. This is why I'm so fascinated, Jacob,

2082
01:49:52.359 --> 01:49:54.600
<v Speaker 2>This is why I'm so fascinated of everything to do

2083
01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:57.199
<v Speaker 2>with the mind. It's all mental in a in a way,

2084
01:49:57.279 --> 01:50:00.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean really in every way I think. And so oh,

2085
01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>but the look, there are some certain claims as far

2086
01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:06.760
<v Speaker 2>as this device goes, and I just want to read

2087
01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>one of them, so dog. One of the claims is,

2088
01:50:10.359 --> 01:50:13.399
<v Speaker 2>or the first claim is that the there's an apparatus

2089
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:16.600
<v Speaker 2>for manipulating the nervous system of a subject, the subject

2090
01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:23.039
<v Speaker 2>having an ear comprising a generator means a generator means

2091
01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:29.359
<v Speaker 2>for generating voltage pulses. Induction means connected to the generator, meaning, well,

2092
01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>this is worded very weirdly anyway, that generator is sending

2093
01:50:33.920 --> 01:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>voltage pulses to your ears. It says for inducing at

2094
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:42.600
<v Speaker 2>the ear subliminal atmospheric acoustic pulses with a pulse frequency

2095
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:45.439
<v Speaker 2>of less than fifteen hertz. Dude, this shit is in

2096
01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:51.159
<v Speaker 2>tri ckid. Like, dude, imagine learning that there are certain

2097
01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:54.520
<v Speaker 2>hurtz frequencies that you can target at people in order

2098
01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to manipulate them mentally, because we already know that you

2099
01:50:57.960 --> 01:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>can do this kind of stuff in like a meditation

2100
01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:04.279
<v Speaker 2>or you want to listen to you know whatever kind

2101
01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of bineural beats or whatever, and you know how that

2102
01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:11.079
<v Speaker 2>that obviously affects you. But dude, there's always a dark

2103
01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:14.680
<v Speaker 2>side to everything. There is always an azibuves not as

2104
01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:16.640
<v Speaker 2>above so below, but like there's always like a yin

2105
01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>and a yang to every single thing. You got Christianity,

2106
01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:23.199
<v Speaker 2>which is a big beautiful thing, Well here Satanism, bitch,

2107
01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:25.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, there's always a like

2108
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:29.960
<v Speaker 2>a manipulation of It's always the opposite of something.

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01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, brother, I believe that's the only way

2110
01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that this can even work. There has to be equal

2111
01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and opposite of each other for harmony to even be

2112
01:51:39.960 --> 01:51:40.479
<v Speaker 1>a topic.

2113
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:43.479
<v Speaker 2>But doesn't that get back to the binary thing as

2114
01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:46.680
<v Speaker 2>far as free will or you know you know what

2115
01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like, there's always only two choices.

2116
01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, Jonathan, that's my point. I

2117
01:51:52.039 --> 01:51:54.760
<v Speaker 1>think it only works if both are happening at the

2118
01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:59.359
<v Speaker 1>same time, it can't happen otherwise. And yes, that is

2119
01:51:59.399 --> 01:52:02.279
<v Speaker 1>so comp alluded that we go into these deep thoughts

2120
01:52:02.279 --> 01:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>of God knows where we end up. But that's kind

2121
01:52:05.319 --> 01:52:09.439
<v Speaker 1>of the point. It's an unknowable fact. But right, it's

2122
01:52:09.439 --> 01:52:11.199
<v Speaker 1>a unseekable truth.

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01:52:11.399 --> 01:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>But that does that not play in to fate and

2124
01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>destiny knowing that whatever option you choose, the path is

2125
01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:22.079
<v Speaker 2>already laid out both ways, and so therefore there could

2126
01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:26.680
<v Speaker 2>not be necessarily total absolute free will if there's only

2127
01:52:26.720 --> 01:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>ever two choices for you to choose from.

2128
01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:33.079
<v Speaker 1>But you still have the choice of which one you're choosing.

2129
01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like it all comes down to a choice.

2130
01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:37.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like do you want to eat a turd sandwich

2131
01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:40.119
<v Speaker 2>or diarrhea soup. It's like that that's not really much

2132
01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:40.359
<v Speaker 2>of a.

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01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Choice, but you still have the choice. If you want

2134
01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to call it that, I understand it. You're making the

2135
01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:51.159
<v Speaker 1>best of a shitty situation, per the example, but numps.

2136
01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:54.720
<v Speaker 1>But my point is, either way it goes, you actually

2137
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:58.279
<v Speaker 1>are still making a choice. It's not thrusted upon you

2138
01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:01.079
<v Speaker 1>to where one of these is going to happen or

2139
01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the other. You still have to make that decision for yourself.

2140
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:08.279
<v Speaker 2>And as they say, no choice is still a choice, right.

2141
01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Ummm, I don't know. I'm pretty sure that Rush said

2142
01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>even if you do not choose to decide, you still

2143
01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have made a choice, So I know what I'm saying. So,

2144
01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:23.039
<v Speaker 1>like I said, dude, it can't happen without it either

2145
01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:25.199
<v Speaker 1>way you look at it. The choice has to be made,

2146
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:28.159
<v Speaker 1>but fate has to play out. So one of the

2147
01:53:28.239 --> 01:53:30.760
<v Speaker 1>side versus the other, it doesn't matter. I don't think

2148
01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>these are opposing viewpoints. As a matter of fact, I

2149
01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>believe they have to be locked in. They can't happen

2150
01:53:36.680 --> 01:53:37.199
<v Speaker 1>without each other.

2151
01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:40.680
<v Speaker 2>So now let's get to all right, So we have

2152
01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:45.319
<v Speaker 2>discovered that there is destiny and free will possibly happening

2153
01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:46.079
<v Speaker 2>at the same time.

2154
01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Who knows.

2155
01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:49.079
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to get into the mind of the creator,

2156
01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:52.159
<v Speaker 2>which I know that most people would say absolutely impossible.

2157
01:53:52.279 --> 01:53:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I would suggest it if God was one of us

2158
01:53:56.279 --> 01:54:00.159
<v Speaker 2>cannabis now I think he smokes cannabis, but sure. But

2159
01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:04.479
<v Speaker 2>that being said, is it possible now that that creator

2160
01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:06.479
<v Speaker 2>or the universe or whatever you want to look at it,

2161
01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:12.119
<v Speaker 2>that that being or thing or whatever that created all

2162
01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:15.159
<v Speaker 2>of this kind of illusion? But also like an awesome

2163
01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>reality to live in, also kind of a shitty reality

2164
01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to live in, depending on your perspective. Would that creator

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01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:28.239
<v Speaker 2>thing then allow for the possibility of time travel your thoughts.

2166
01:54:28.960 --> 01:54:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it would be a hack to the simulation.

2167
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:35.560
<v Speaker 3>But if time doesn't actually exist and everything's happening concurrently,

2168
01:54:35.600 --> 01:54:37.560
<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't you be able to go to a different

2169
01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:39.199
<v Speaker 3>point within that program.

2170
01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I am of the belief that time travel is possible. However,

2171
01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I also agree with Matty Ice that that ends the game.

2172
01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:49.800
<v Speaker 2>It has to write.

2173
01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, you say it's a glitch. I say it actually

2174
01:54:53.119 --> 01:54:56.479
<v Speaker 1>would crumble the matrix. Just my personal beliefs based off

2175
01:54:56.520 --> 01:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of nothing other than my own opinion.

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01:54:58.039 --> 01:55:01.880
<v Speaker 3>You're thinking about the Umbrella Academy again. No, every time

2177
01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:05.279
<v Speaker 3>they time traveled, they create a synchronicity that will destroy

2178
01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the universe in some way. Not actually, that's kind of

2179
01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:12.840
<v Speaker 3>what I think CERN is doing. Is or maybe too

2180
01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:17.640
<v Speaker 3>many people using the looking Glass or or chronavisor the

2181
01:55:17.720 --> 01:55:24.439
<v Speaker 3>chronavisor okay changing significant events. So therefore the universe has

2182
01:55:24.479 --> 01:55:28.680
<v Speaker 3>to destroy itself. And our consciousness has been shifting to

2183
01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:33.640
<v Speaker 3>separate universes every time one is destroyed, and that's why

2184
01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:35.239
<v Speaker 3>we have the Mandel effect.

2185
01:55:35.279 --> 01:55:38.079
<v Speaker 1>So I don't believe that, although that is a possibility.

2186
01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe the whole the butterfly effect and how there's

2187
01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:44.199
<v Speaker 1>multiple timelines happening at the same time. Sure believe that

2188
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>one thousand percent. I believe in the theory of infinity,

2189
01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:49.159
<v Speaker 1>So I believe there's an infinite number of possibilities in

2190
01:55:49.199 --> 01:55:52.319
<v Speaker 1>an infinite number of universes, all happening at the exact

2191
01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:54.439
<v Speaker 1>same time. Kind of Rick and Morty esque, if you will.

2192
01:55:54.720 --> 01:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm on that vibe right hypothetically, speaking of course, but

2193
01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:01.439
<v Speaker 1>hold on, like you absolutely believe in that, like the

2194
01:56:01.439 --> 01:56:07.119
<v Speaker 1>theory of infinity and like multiple realities. Yeah really, okay,

2195
01:56:07.159 --> 01:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were against that kind of shit.

2196
01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:10.479
<v Speaker 2>I love that you're going there. I feel like you

2197
01:56:10.520 --> 01:56:12.560
<v Speaker 2>have evolved as a person as we've gone through the

2198
01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>years on this show, and I love to see it.

2199
01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Well, I believe in all right. So again we've

2200
01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>talked that there is we know for sure thirteen dimensions

2201
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:24.439
<v Speaker 1>that we can quantifiably know exist. That, in my opinion,

2202
01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:27.119
<v Speaker 1>leads credence to the belief that there is an infinite

2203
01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:30.399
<v Speaker 1>number of them. We may not have the math to

2204
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>check out in that because our math doesn't what does

2205
01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:36.439
<v Speaker 1>a fourth dimensional algebraic problem look like? I don't know,

2206
01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:39.319
<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying, What does a thirteenth dimensional

2207
01:56:39.399 --> 01:56:43.239
<v Speaker 1>calculus problem look like? So to say it to that level, yeah,

2208
01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe there's infinite numbers of infinite things going on.

2209
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of content with the one that I

2210
01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:50.199
<v Speaker 1>have found myself in currently, my soul in this meat

2211
01:56:50.199 --> 01:56:54.319
<v Speaker 1>suit and all that shit. However, super convoluted talk. But

2212
01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:57.760
<v Speaker 1>but I also as far as uh, shit we got

2213
01:56:57.760 --> 01:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>off on it. Where was I going before that? Oh?

2214
01:57:00.720 --> 01:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Time travel? Okay, so as far as the whole multiple

2215
01:57:04.520 --> 01:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>timelines thing happening, I don't believe that that would necessarily

2216
01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>cancel out the original just my own belief. What I

2217
01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>think is basically, time travel is possible. I personally don't

2218
01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>believe we figured it out yet, and I believe that

2219
01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the day it happens, and not just to look back

2220
01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:25.279
<v Speaker 1>into the past, okay, seeing or getting a vision or whatever.

2221
01:57:25.319 --> 01:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing. I mean, actually being able to transport

2222
01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a human from one spot to another via time. And

2223
01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's not possible and it never has happened,

2224
01:57:33.960 --> 01:57:37.319
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they have figured out something to fix the

2225
01:57:37.359 --> 01:57:40.079
<v Speaker 1>problem that I'm about to propose, because again I am

2226
01:57:40.079 --> 01:57:43.640
<v Speaker 1>not a theoretical physicist. This is just very where I'm

2227
01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:46.399
<v Speaker 1>at with it. I am of the belief that once

2228
01:57:46.479 --> 01:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they to travel through time, you have to tear us

2229
01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a whole through the space time continuum. You basically have

2230
01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to tear a hole through existence as we know it. Okay,

2231
01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:00.479
<v Speaker 1>is that possible. I'm with Maddie Ice believe that's what

2232
01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:03.119
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to fuck around with with cern and I'm

2233
01:58:03.119 --> 01:58:06.239
<v Speaker 1>not okay with it, but whatever. I also believe that

2234
01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:09.439
<v Speaker 1>whenever you jump time, you tear a hole in the

2235
01:58:09.479 --> 01:58:12.600
<v Speaker 1>fabric of existence, and I am of the belief that

2236
01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:14.920
<v Speaker 1>once that hole starts tearing, it's only a matter of

2237
01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:17.600
<v Speaker 1>time before it all falls apart. I believe that we

2238
01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>exist in a very delicate balance of things that all

2239
01:58:21.039 --> 01:58:24.319
<v Speaker 1>have to work in a certain way. Jumping time, I

2240
01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>am of the belief, makes it to where that can't

2241
01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:29.560
<v Speaker 1>work that certain way, and not because of oh well,

2242
01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>if you jump to the past, what if you change something,

2243
01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and how would that play out later? Like, fine, totally

2244
01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>could happen. I think that even just breaking through the

2245
01:58:37.720 --> 01:58:42.479
<v Speaker 1>barrier to try to step foot into another time basically

2246
01:58:42.479 --> 01:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>stops the game. That's just my opinion.

2247
01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like basically kind of like what I was saying

2248
01:58:48.840 --> 01:58:51.239
<v Speaker 3>is every time that they use the coronavisor or they

2249
01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:55.199
<v Speaker 3>look into different points on the timeline to do whatever,

2250
01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:59.920
<v Speaker 3>that's creating some sort of singularity that destroys the universe eventually.

2251
01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Umbrella Academy, it was always some monster or

2252
01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:06.319
<v Speaker 1>some some nuclear war. I don't I'm not taking it

2253
01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to that level. I'm talking more like Atlanta.

2254
01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:09.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just control all delete.

2255
01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I kind of think that the day they

2256
01:59:13.159 --> 01:59:16.279
<v Speaker 1>fire up a time machine and successfully make a portal

2257
01:59:16.319 --> 01:59:18.479
<v Speaker 1>to the other side is the day that Thano snaps

2258
01:59:18.479 --> 01:59:20.159
<v Speaker 1>his finger. That's that's what I believe.

2259
01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:22.920
<v Speaker 3>So I've watched back to the future god knows how

2260
01:59:22.920 --> 01:59:29.479
<v Speaker 3>many times, easily well into the multiple hundreds, and the

2261
01:59:29.560 --> 01:59:33.359
<v Speaker 3>thing that keeps messing me up is that they create

2262
01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:38.199
<v Speaker 3>these tangent universes and tangent timelines. But those people still

2263
01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:42.760
<v Speaker 3>exist and they lived those lives in the Bad Biff

2264
01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:48.079
<v Speaker 3>reality or the hell View reality, Hell Valley reality, And

2265
01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:53.079
<v Speaker 3>what happened to those people when they corrected the timeline,

2266
01:59:53.640 --> 01:59:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Like did they not live that life? Or is that

2267
01:59:55.840 --> 02:00:01.239
<v Speaker 3>why we have these nomenals ill this is, or or

2268
02:00:01.840 --> 02:00:06.359
<v Speaker 3>phobia's or bad feelings, or we've remembered things a different

2269
02:00:06.399 --> 02:00:10.760
<v Speaker 3>way because we've lived that in an alternate universe and

2270
02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:13.680
<v Speaker 3>we have their residual knowledge but we can't access it,

2271
02:00:13.720 --> 02:00:15.640
<v Speaker 3>but we know in the back of our minds something

2272
02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:19.920
<v Speaker 3>isn't good, or we shouldn't go somewhere, or what have you.

2273
02:00:20.479 --> 02:00:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that's where the thought of reincarnation may

2274
02:00:23.359 --> 02:00:25.680
<v Speaker 1>come from, or do you believe the reincarnation is a

2275
02:00:25.720 --> 02:00:29.279
<v Speaker 1>real thing outside of this theory of multiple timelines.

2276
02:00:28.880 --> 02:00:30.279
<v Speaker 2>That could be the answer for deja.

2277
02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Mosside, Like, I have an opinion. I think I've said

2278
02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:38.159
<v Speaker 3>it before, but beliefs are dangerous. Opinions are what you

2279
02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:40.840
<v Speaker 3>need to have. Like it's easy to change an opinion

2280
02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:43.920
<v Speaker 3>when presented with a new idea. It's hard to change

2281
02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:46.720
<v Speaker 3>a belief structure because you structure your life around it.

2282
02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:54.079
<v Speaker 3>But my opinion is I think possibly your consciousness or

2283
02:00:54.119 --> 02:00:58.840
<v Speaker 3>soul or whatever you want to think of it inside

2284
02:00:58.880 --> 02:01:05.159
<v Speaker 3>of you is eternal, and maybe jumping timelines to different

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<v Speaker 3>life or different reality, or or once you die in

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<v Speaker 3>one you go to a different one that's possible, or

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<v Speaker 3>that you could just go back to a different point

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<v Speaker 3>on your own lifeline where you made a mistake and

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<v Speaker 3>you got to change it. That's possible too, Or there's

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<v Speaker 3>an actual afterlife where we go into a different heaven

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<v Speaker 3>type realm or a hell type realm, or maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>atheists had it right where you remember what it was

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<v Speaker 3>like before you were born. That's probably what it's like

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<v Speaker 3>to be dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Okay, Okay, So you're open to a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different suggestions at this time.

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<v Speaker 3>I know all of the theories. It just live my

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<v Speaker 3>life according No.

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<v Speaker 2>I like what you said about the beliefs and opinions though,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know it's it's like the old saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean this toward any specific person, mentality or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>because we all have certain beliefs that we're just not

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<v Speaker 2>going to change. I personally have the belief that if

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<v Speaker 2>I use fluoride toothpaste that my pinial glam won't become corroded.

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<v Speaker 2>I will never know that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never know that it has to be a belief.

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<v Speaker 2>But that being said, it's kind of like the old

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<v Speaker 2>saying that that goes, uh, how does it go?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it?

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<v Speaker 2>I had it and I lost it. It's coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, it's downloading. Oh, you can't wake up somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's pretending to be asleep. And that's I believe what

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<v Speaker 2>the definition of a belief may be, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>all those people, let's just put it in the Trump realm,

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<v Speaker 2>like all the people who hate Trump, they believe that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't wake somebody up from that they're pretending to

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<v Speaker 2>be asleep. You can't wake up from somebody pretending to

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<v Speaker 2>be asleep, right, And so I don't know, dude, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this, dude, the mind is such a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>powerful tool, and this is why we're constantly being bombarded

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<v Speaker 2>in every single possible way through the food, the water,

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02:03:03.119 --> 02:03:07.319
<v Speaker 2>the air, at the medical system, the propaganda on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>It's constant, constant, constant manipulation. And it does lead you

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<v Speaker 2>to wonder, if we didn't have all of those things

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<v Speaker 2>targeting us on a regular daily basis, how much different

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<v Speaker 2>would this reality look.

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<v Speaker 3>Like. Have you ever taken a break from all social

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<v Speaker 3>media and just use your phone as an actual phone?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't, but I've thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it for thirty days. Try to do it for

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<v Speaker 3>thirty days and just see how much happier you are

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<v Speaker 3>without this constant stream of bad news and hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, My brother swapped out for the old clam show,

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<v Speaker 1>the old flip phone. About two years ago, he had

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<v Speaker 1>an iPhone. He went fishing within his pocket, it fell out. Whatever,

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02:03:55.239 --> 02:03:56.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, Fuck you give me the cheapest phone you

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<v Speaker 1>got in the store. He had it for about six

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<v Speaker 1>months before he literally needed a smartphone to do business

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. But like bro, he will tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>was the happiest six months of his life. He got.

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<v Speaker 1>He received text messages, he never texted back. He would

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<v Speaker 1>just call them, have the conversation, hang the fuck up,

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<v Speaker 1>move on with his day, and never was bothered by

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<v Speaker 1>the earth and the shit. He said. It was happy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I tell you what whenever I went on that uh,

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02:04:23.560 --> 02:04:26.520
<v Speaker 2>because I went on a cruise for my honeymoon last year, right,

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02:04:26.960 --> 02:04:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and you can sign up for the Wi Fi WiFi

2349
02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:31.600
<v Speaker 2>is ass on a cruise line if you if you've

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<v Speaker 2>never been. But yeah, I tell you what it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>A It was like a relief that it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 2>my phone wasn't working, that I couldn't get on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't check Facebook and Instagram and check certain

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02:04:43.439 --> 02:04:46.640
<v Speaker 2>statistics and you know all like fantasy football, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always into this, you know, uh, into this like research

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02:04:50.159 --> 02:04:52.680
<v Speaker 2>mentality ever since, you know, we have so many shows

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, and but my god, it is such a

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02:04:57.119 --> 02:05:00.720
<v Speaker 2>monkey off your back whenever you know, you kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>In the morning and nobody being able to contact you

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<v Speaker 3>until you got home.

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<v Speaker 2>Good old times, Good old times, dude. I used to

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<v Speaker 2>call like, so I would have to stay after school

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<v Speaker 2>because I had football practice after school, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>would have to call my mom up to come pick

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<v Speaker 2>me up from football practice. And dude, how I would

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02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:17.680
<v Speaker 2>call her because I didn't have a phone. I would

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<v Speaker 2>use the fucking payphone and I would do one eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred collect and you'd give like a little three second

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<v Speaker 2>message and I would just say, hey, Ma, come pick

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<v Speaker 2>me up, and that's it, right, And she wouldn't answer.

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<v Speaker 3>A baby eats a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes indeed, yeah, de old commercial. Well att, it's free

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<v Speaker 1>for you, it's cheap for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, right right, Good dude, good times, good too. I mean, hey, dude, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this reality is a fucking strange reality. It's only going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep on getting stranger. Maddie Ice, thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for coming on the show. Brother this was this

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<v Speaker 2>was great. We love having you and you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to stretch the brain a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about the elasticity. That's what opening up your

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02:05:57.319 --> 02:05:59.720
<v Speaker 2>third eye is all about. So if if you can't

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<v Speaker 2>get into the understandings at the manipulation level or a

2383
02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:07.159
<v Speaker 2>propaganda level or whatever, you might be able to start

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02:06:07.199 --> 02:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to look into how they might be able to manipulate

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02:06:10.039 --> 02:06:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you mentally. And that's why I'm happy that we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of went down this route today. Although pertaining to like

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<v Speaker 2>time travel and possibly Thomas Crooks and how he was

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<v Speaker 2>MK ultra dude, these are some great conversations. I love

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<v Speaker 2>this shit. It just causes you to think, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite kind of stuff, no doubt, no doubt. Look, Maddie,

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<v Speaker 2>if the call members don't know where to find you yet,

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<v Speaker 2>let them know where they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm on TikTok at Mattie ice Rants and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also on Instagram and there's a link tree on

2395
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<v Speaker 3>my TikTok that they'll take you all of my other accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been posting longer forms or series all stitched together

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. So the whole time or the Master Shechedler

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<v Speaker 3>or Shechedler on the roof or the time travel shed

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<v Speaker 3>Man from Florida. That whole thing is up on YouTube now.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also I'm starting my podcast over again. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the Whole Truth, the h ol e Truth like rabbit Hole,

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<v Speaker 3>and that'll be on Spotify first. I'm gonna try and

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<v Speaker 3>get it on other places as well, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Love to hear. By the way, I you know the

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02:07:22.479 --> 02:07:25.000
<v Speaker 2>last time we had you on was it was from

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<v Speaker 2>the Conspiracy Cabin. Are you still in the Conspiracy Cabin?

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<v Speaker 1>Sir?

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<v Speaker 3>Not currently? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that is a no more rip Conspiracy Cabin r

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<v Speaker 2>P Jacob. Can we get some knife fans up in here, dude?

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't, dear cult members, please at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>hit the five stars, hit the share, the like, subscribed

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<v Speaker 1>to comment, leave a post, lea review, shares with the

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family, shriffs everywhere. Here's the deal. The more

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<v Speaker 1>activity all of our algorithms see across all the listening platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>the more we get promoted to more potential listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>could then become potential cult members like the rest of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Finallyises and gentlemen, why are you ready go check out

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<v Speaker 1>Maddie I rant on TikTok go check out his new

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02:08:02.399 --> 02:08:05.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast one more time. He said it was the whole truth.

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<v Speaker 1>H O l E. Correct. Yes, go check them out

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02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:11.439
<v Speaker 1>and give them all the love the five stars of reviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Share them everywhere. Help us grow these things, help us

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02:08:14.439 --> 02:08:16.279
<v Speaker 1>grow this dream. We thank you for everybody who's already

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02:08:16.279 --> 02:08:16.880
<v Speaker 1>gone and done so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, I love these conversations, Maddie. We love your brother.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't wait to do it again. Man. Absolutely, you

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02:08:23.399 --> 02:08:25.960
<v Speaker 2>reach out to us anytime. Brother you are you're part

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02:08:25.960 --> 02:08:27.079
<v Speaker 2>of this cold family, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're one of the homies.

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02:08:28.520 --> 02:08:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Dude for shout, glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, bud. Look, with that being said, this was

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02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:37.239
<v Speaker 2>another beautiful episode of the Cults of Conspiracy. And my

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<v Speaker 2>name's Jonathan, and there's one very important action, the vital

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02:08:40.119 --> 02:08:41.880
<v Speaker 2>piece of information we need you to learn just as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as humanly possible. No bed of bear

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<v Speaker 3>S
