Speaker 1: Oh that's are.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy and I am the Cage to Night and
Speaker 2: today we have on a certain guest. We have had
Speaker 2: him on multiple times in the past, but it's time
Speaker 2: for us to reconnect. Scott Pace Bigfoot extraordinary, Welcome back
Speaker 2: to the show. Brother. How have you been man?
Speaker 3: Thanks guys. I'm doing great, doing real good. A few
Speaker 3: changes in life and stuff like that, but for the
Speaker 3: most part, great, doing really good. Got some more experiences,
Speaker 3: some more things happen, seeing some different things in the
Speaker 3: National Forest and all that. So I can't wait to
Speaker 3: get started and tell you what's going on.
Speaker 2: Brother, I can't wait to hear about it. So Raven
Speaker 2: Lee has not She's a relatively new co host and
Speaker 2: member of the cult, right, so she hasn't heard your backstory.
Speaker 2: And for all the cult members that may not have
Speaker 2: heard the first couple of times you've been on the show,
Speaker 2: let's briefly go over your backstory, right, So, where you
Speaker 2: come from, how you came to be such an expert
Speaker 2: in the Bigfoot, in the dog men, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2: Give us the.
Speaker 3: TLDR of it, all right, So I'll try to condense
Speaker 3: it down for y'all real quick. But yeah, the last
Speaker 3: interview we did was what three hours it's been. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was quite a bit, but I think that's funny
Speaker 3: just getting started. But anyway to condense it down. Everything,
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, while I was hunting in North Louisiana
Speaker 3: to a hunt least, I had a bigfoot and a dog
Speaker 3: man come up on me in my hunting stand. And
Speaker 3: the weird thing was was that they both talked to
Speaker 3: me in my mind through telepathy, which would be called
Speaker 3: some people call it mind speak. And so ever since then,
Speaker 3: I've actually been able to talk to them, they talked
Speaker 3: to me. They've even come down to South Louisiana where
Speaker 3: we live at and have actually, through other dimensions and
Speaker 3: through portals, have actually came inside our house. And I've
Speaker 3: seen them in here too before. And what's amazing is
Speaker 3: is once you acquire that relationship with them, which is
Speaker 3: a very strange relationship to begin with, is they just
Speaker 3: don't leave, you know. And so this is an ongoing thing.
Speaker 3: It keeps going, and at times we'll have some things
Speaker 3: in there happening inside the house and stuff like that
Speaker 3: is very unexplainable weird things like things will get moved,
Speaker 3: things have been hidden from us, cloaked to what we
Speaker 3: call cloaked, and even had some experiences where we've seen
Speaker 3: orbs in the house. And so that that's the quick
Speaker 3: extent of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the orbs, I knew you were gonna want
Speaker 2: to ask questions.
Speaker 4: There's so many questions to this because like I've heard
Speaker 4: of you from like various different people and stuff. So
Speaker 4: I guess my question is is, so you've hid communication
Speaker 4: with them? So have they presented themselves to you more
Speaker 4: than once? And also like the.
Speaker 1: Orbs, are they like otherworldly?
Speaker 4: Are they ghosts or because a lot of people associate
Speaker 4: orbs with spirits, and so are they a type of
Speaker 4: spirit or have you like, actually, how do you any
Speaker 4: can kind of communication of a sort with them or
Speaker 4: anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of questions right there you just
Speaker 3: went through. But let's go the whole bunchy, and you
Speaker 3: can ask as many as you want, and I'd be
Speaker 3: glad to answer them as truthfully and as directly as
Speaker 3: I can. Orbs and so orbs are a supernatural phenomenon
Speaker 3: that happened, But this is one of the ways in
Speaker 3: which they can transform themselves from a spiritual form to
Speaker 3: a say, a fiscal form to a spiritual form, and
Speaker 3: that's a form of energy, and that's something which they
Speaker 3: operate in and they move in and so they can
Speaker 3: move in and out of dimensions. They can move in
Speaker 3: and out of time, and time means nothing to them.
Speaker 3: They go inside of a portal or dimension and come
Speaker 3: back and go back in time and come, you know,
Speaker 3: go back and forth. That means nothing to them whatsoever.
Speaker 3: But as far as the orbs themselves, yes, there's different colors.
Speaker 3: I mean, they all mean something too, So a lot
Speaker 3: of the different colors mean different things, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Break that down a little bit deeper if you could,
Speaker 2: because most of the people that have ever seen orbs,
Speaker 2: they are golden or a kind of like a liquid
Speaker 2: metal or something, but they're very bright. You're saying, there's
Speaker 2: different color orbs. Let's dive into that for a second.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's different color orbs. So the ones that came
Speaker 3: to our house were actually blue orbs, and they were
Speaker 3: a form of a healing orb. And so the story
Speaker 3: behind that was my wife had had a surgery on
Speaker 3: her hip and the surgery didn't go good. It was
Speaker 3: a horrible surgery. In fact, they were trying to put
Speaker 3: pins in her hip because her hip had gotten weak
Speaker 3: due to a wreck that she was in. And when
Speaker 3: the doctor put the third pin in, it actually hit
Speaker 3: the nerve that was going down through her hip to
Speaker 3: her foot, and so they had yeah, and it was
Speaker 3: supposed to be in and out surgery. So long story short,
Speaker 3: they went back in and pulled the pen out. But
Speaker 3: I had to go back to work at the time.
Speaker 3: So while I was at work, I was working the
Speaker 3: evening ship. And so she she texted me, she said,
Speaker 3: I got blue lights in the house. Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Let me back up, she said. She took a picture
Speaker 3: and sent it to me, and she said, and we
Speaker 3: have strip lighting up top our in the ceiling inside
Speaker 3: our kitchen. And so she said, uh, did you move
Speaker 3: those lights? And I'm like no, I said, I have
Speaker 3: no reason to move those lights, I said. She said, well,
Speaker 3: all three of the lights are pointing toward me. I said,
Speaker 3: that's kind of strange. And she said, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: there's some blue lights in the house. I said, what
Speaker 3: you describe light to me? And she said, what, it's
Speaker 3: like a round circle. I said, like an orb. She said, yes,
Speaker 3: there's blue orbs in the house. So she sent them
Speaker 3: to me. So of course I take the picture that
Speaker 3: she sent to me, and I started zooming out on it. Well,
Speaker 3: of course that has a face in it, and so
Speaker 3: I kind of began to communicate with them and ask
Speaker 3: them and I said, why did y'all first of all
Speaker 3: want to move the light? And they said to keep
Speaker 3: evil spirits off? And I said okay, And I said
Speaker 3: what is it? What about the blue orb? And they said,
Speaker 3: it's it's part of a spiritual healing thing for her
Speaker 3: and protection. And so I said, okay, So they do
Speaker 3: come in your house and they do protect you once
Speaker 3: they form a relationship with you, then it's that's one
Speaker 3: of the things that they've also been called the watchers,
Speaker 3: if you ever heard that term, the watchers.
Speaker 2: So from the book at Enoch, we're talking about the watchers.
Speaker 3: Yes, the watchers, And so that's another thing that there
Speaker 3: actually got what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I definitely was not on that same vibe.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, the comics, my bad.
Speaker 2: The comics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Watchmen. So yeah, like the Watchmen Watchers.
Speaker 1: Like there's different type of comics that have like Watchmen
Speaker 1: and like Watchers and stuff, and I was like, so okay, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, my mom not on the same page.
Speaker 2: I'm very glad that you brought this up, the Raven Lee.
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. So for anybody who may not
Speaker 2: be read into the Book of Enoch that we are
Speaker 2: talking about, this is very good. This is very good
Speaker 2: for all the cult members that may not.
Speaker 1: Hell talk is not the first thing that I definitely thought.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, yep, nope, I totally understand.
Speaker 4: But I was like, you know, pop culture kind of
Speaker 4: a thing, sure, Watchers, And I was.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, I guess.
Speaker 2: But that's my point. It's good that you're bringing this
Speaker 2: up because some people that maybe relatively newer listeners to
Speaker 2: the show may not know what the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 2: So good, Let's give a quick little backstory to the
Speaker 2: Book of Enoch, the Watchers, these things. The Book of
Speaker 2: Enoch is a book that, in my personal opinion, should
Speaker 2: have been added to the Bible, especially because Jesus himself
Speaker 2: was referencing certain things from the Book of Enoch. However,
Speaker 2: there were certain things within it that they decided didn't
Speaker 2: coincide with what we would consider Christian biblical canon, so
Speaker 2: they did not add it to the final edition of
Speaker 2: the Bible. Now, Enoch, this would be Noah's grandson, if
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken Scott.
Speaker 3: Yeah, grandson I believe is his grandson or great grandson.
Speaker 2: It was one. I was about to say, it's not
Speaker 2: as great nephew that was. That was not. But anyway,
Speaker 2: was that the point where that was Abraham flats the point? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So in the Book of Enoch it talks about these
Speaker 2: fallen intoitees and I'm using that term very loosely, that
Speaker 2: came down saw women, human women, thought they were beautiful
Speaker 2: and decided to mate with them, and they called them
Speaker 2: the watchers. So these are of u s So I
Speaker 2: want to say esoteric, these are of spiritual entities, right,
Speaker 2: like these are from we would call them fallen angels.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: However, when they made it with the daughters of man
Speaker 2: i e. Human women, their babies became nephelim.
Speaker 1: Did it like actually specify that they were falling angels?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, And so they were like classif they were
Speaker 2: called the watchers, but in reality they're falling angels. They
Speaker 2: decided to hook up with human women have half uh
Speaker 2: you know, divine half human spawn, which is where we
Speaker 2: get giants from. And the men of Old, the men
Speaker 2: of renown, all these things so.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I know that you're probably not like
Speaker 4: as heavy into like sci fi fantasy stuff as I am,
Speaker 4: but there is many references in many different books and
Speaker 4: especially TV shows and movies that watchers come about in
Speaker 4: different forms and stuff.
Speaker 1: So that's where my mind went completely.
Speaker 4: Obviously I was on the same page as you guys,
Speaker 4: but I definitely was.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, I was like, I can you know some
Speaker 2: of those this is where they get their bases from.
Speaker 2: Some some yeah, versions of watchers and the sci fi
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with this some kind of.
Speaker 4: So when you talk about these orbs in particular, like
Speaker 4: you said, there was a face in them. Are these
Speaker 4: the bigfoot faces? Are they the dogmen faces? Are they
Speaker 4: the mixture of both or is it just an unknown
Speaker 4: random face that you have like zoomed in you saw.
Speaker 3: So as far as I know, I've never seen a
Speaker 3: dollar man or but I have seen be what they
Speaker 3: call sasquatch or bigfoot or see tonga. They have different names,
Speaker 3: a lot of different names for them, and they really.
Speaker 3: They really don't like the term bigfoot because it's kind
Speaker 3: of a slang thing to them. But you call them
Speaker 3: the forest people is one thing we call them and
Speaker 3: call them sasquatch or something like that. But that's what
Speaker 3: they like, you know. They they like that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, if you call them certain certain kind of words,
Speaker 3: you know, names everything. What do bigfoot look like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I mean, because there's a lot of variations
Speaker 4: of what they like.
Speaker 1: Everybody has their own version flavor of what they look like.
Speaker 1: But what did they look like?
Speaker 3: The ones? Well, to me, the ones I saw actually
Speaker 3: like people like us. And so you have different ones.
Speaker 3: Some are like apes, some of them have a cone head.
Speaker 3: The ones I saw did not have a cone head.
Speaker 3: They look like us, but they were just really tall.
Speaker 3: The female that I saw, but like American Indians, what
Speaker 3: you look like, and then she was tall. She was
Speaker 3: she was probably about nine foot tall.
Speaker 2: I'd say, you've said the females are larger than the males.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, males are way larger. They're
Speaker 3: they're bigger, they just they're just tall. Also, But the
Speaker 3: story behind that was, well, let me let me go
Speaker 3: back to the orbs and stuff. First they stay on
Speaker 3: out and then we'll go to these other stores. The
Speaker 3: orbs that I've seen, and I've seen quite a few
Speaker 3: of them, they're green ones, which are kind of like
Speaker 3: forest caretakers, and then there are red ones, and then
Speaker 3: there's white ones, and then the blue ones. Those are
Speaker 3: ones that I've seen, okay, And I actually seen them
Speaker 3: while I was hunting and I was sitting in my stand,
Speaker 3: or went walking to my stand and I sat there,
Speaker 3: and then when I got to my stand, I cut
Speaker 3: my head light off and I was still seeing lights around.
Speaker 3: I'm like, my lord, what is going on? So I
Speaker 3: started looking up in the trees and I'm seeing these
Speaker 3: scenes up in there, and there were just orbs around. Actually,
Speaker 3: I've got quite a few pictures of them now on
Speaker 3: our honey lease. And that's what they do. I think
Speaker 3: it's just a highly active area. But the one the
Speaker 3: pictures that I do have now are there's black and white,
Speaker 3: so you really can't tell what colors they are. But
Speaker 3: at night when I've seen them before, they were mostly white,
Speaker 3: like white and blue as the ones that I saw,
Speaker 3: and so you can see those different color stuff like now,
Speaker 3: eyeshine is a whole different thing, which sometimes can be
Speaker 3: mistaken for orbs.
Speaker 2: So for real, quick, what is eyeshine? Because you and
Speaker 2: I we have spent a fair amount of time in
Speaker 2: the woods at night with flashlights, so whenever we see
Speaker 2: a creature, eyeshine is a term that we recognize. To
Speaker 2: the people out there that may be more of the
Speaker 2: city slicker variety that have no idea what the hell
Speaker 2: we're talking about, explain what eyeshine is.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the Sasquatch or forest people actually have a
Speaker 3: way that they can make their eyes turn into what
Speaker 3: I would call a kaleidoscope. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Lud of scope is you're ever look inside a little
Speaker 3: tube and you turn it and does like that. Well,
Speaker 3: what it does is their eyes actually can glow at night.
Speaker 3: And so the eyeshine that I've seen has been white, blue, red,
Speaker 3: and orange. I've never seen a yellow one. And that
Speaker 3: goes back to the dog man, which is a whole
Speaker 3: different story. But the way they do that is they
Speaker 3: actually have a way inside their head that they actually
Speaker 3: projected out at night. It's going to look like an
Speaker 3: led light. And so I've seen this many times at night,
Speaker 3: and stuff I've seen them. And the last set that
Speaker 3: I've seen was about two years ago during hunting season
Speaker 3: and me and my cousin were actually one of my
Speaker 3: cous shot a deer and it was late at night
Speaker 3: and we actually seen these lights and it was a
Speaker 3: single light that was coming down a pine tree and
Speaker 3: we were looking for a deer on our lease, and
Speaker 3: so we looked over at the National Forest and we've
Speaker 3: seen this light just coming out the sky and it
Speaker 3: was coming down, and so I talked to my cousin.
Speaker 3: I said, they must have some hunters over there, some
Speaker 3: boat hunters or something. Well, what was weird was too
Speaker 3: high up in the tree. Number one. The second thing
Speaker 3: was the second one came out the same tree, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a minute, this is kind of weird.
Speaker 3: You know, this scene's coming out of there. And so
Speaker 3: my cousin took his light and started shining over there. Well,
Speaker 3: when he shined it over there, I could see the
Speaker 3: outline of something of a tall person. And so I
Speaker 3: told him, I said, well, don't shine in their face
Speaker 3: like that, or they might get offended or something, you know,
Speaker 3: and shoot at us or something. You know, you can't
Speaker 3: tell these days when you're hunting so anyways, we ended
Speaker 3: up leaving the hunting lease, and so we're in his
Speaker 3: side by side riding out, and when we were riding out,
Speaker 3: these lights, which we thought were hunters, were keeping pace
Speaker 3: with us. Now we're riding on the side by side.
Speaker 3: I'm not going fast, but just leaving out, you know,
Speaker 3: excuse me. And so we got almost to where his
Speaker 3: house is and there was a ridge to our left
Speaker 3: and I turned and I looked, and when I did,
Speaker 3: what I saw was two of them stand there with
Speaker 3: a single eye lit up. But the eye it was
Speaker 3: like you could see inside the head and the light
Speaker 3: was coming out of the head. That's what it looked like.
Speaker 3: And so so that's the way that's yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: way they projected. But here's here's a cool part. They
Speaker 3: have waves of projecting different color lights out of their
Speaker 3: eye socket. And so you may have a white, you
Speaker 3: may have a blue, you may have an orange. And
Speaker 3: for sure, I've seen red before, and so I kind
Speaker 3: of think it has to do with the mood that
Speaker 3: they're in, you know. And so if they're if they're
Speaker 3: not happy, that would be red. If they're cautious, that
Speaker 3: would be an orange color. But if they're if they're
Speaker 3: kind of mellow, you know, they're feeling okay, it would
Speaker 3: be white or blue, and so that's that's what they do.
Speaker 3: But what threw me off was the single eye. And
Speaker 3: so I contacted a friend of mine that's over in Macy, Nebraska,
Speaker 3: and he has his own bigfoot channel and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and it's called res Squatching, which is on Facebook, Yes Squatching,
Speaker 3: So if you ever want to see some live stuff
Speaker 3: going on, he'll go out at night and he'll do
Speaker 3: some lives and he can actually show you the eyeshine
Speaker 3: and all that. So in twenty and twenty two, I
Speaker 3: actually took vacation and went over there and spent the
Speaker 3: weekend with him. And I've seen way more than what
Speaker 3: I want them to see. I mean, it was with
Speaker 3: more what do you mean, things that I couldn't comprehend.
Speaker 3: That was that was sasquatch that were over twenty feet tall.
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen thirteen footers twenty feet tall. And
Speaker 3: they called those the ancient ones. And so these things
Speaker 3: when they came down this hill, they were just kind
Speaker 3: of glided down. They didn't really walk. He just glided
Speaker 3: down and they were in front of us and then
Speaker 3: when we actually drove up in two different vehicles, and
Speaker 3: when we came up to this side of this hill
Speaker 3: and Nebraska, it was it was like a bluff or
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, and these eyeshine was
Speaker 3: all over the place. All it was. It was incredible.
Speaker 3: I've never seen that many eyes before in the woods
Speaker 3: or anything like that. And these things were just lit
Speaker 3: up in that like I said, they were. There were
Speaker 3: there were white, there were blue, there were red, and
Speaker 3: there were orange. And so he asked us to all
Speaker 3: get out of the vehicles and we walked to the
Speaker 3: edge of this road and the or in front of us,
Speaker 3: you know, and so he asked us to introduce ourselves
Speaker 3: to them. So, hey, my name is Scott Pace. I
Speaker 3: came a long ways to see y'all. And I said,
Speaker 3: if there's anything you want to do to teach me
Speaker 3: or let me learn or impart on me or whatever
Speaker 3: you want to do, I said, I'm here to learn,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Is this the show fun?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I never I never blew a so far. That's somebody
Speaker 3: else who did that. Yes, it's so far, But that's
Speaker 3: that's a whole other story. But that's that's yeah, let's
Speaker 3: tell on this story, make sure because that yeah, that one,
Speaker 3: it gets kind of scary on that one.
Speaker 4: But anyways, they did they talk to you, like, did
Speaker 4: they actually in part they wisdom on you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: How many were there total? I'm sorry, I had a
Speaker 1: ton of questions with us.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, you can ask. I would say
Speaker 3: there were probably at least fifteen sixteen of them. And
Speaker 3: this is this is the next thing. So we all
Speaker 3: went over. We started talking to them, but one came
Speaker 3: on the side of us and tried to come next
Speaker 3: to us, and they got in between us and it,
Speaker 3: and then the other ones. As I was telling about
Speaker 3: the twenty footers, there was four of them that just
Speaker 3: glided down. They just came down this this big old
Speaker 3: bluff and they gotten right in front of us. Now,
Speaker 3: this is how I compare it. My wife and I
Speaker 3: live in a small Oh sorry about that. Anyway, My
Speaker 3: wife and I live in a Kadian style house. We
Speaker 3: have a two story house. Okay. And as you can see,
Speaker 3: the peak is behind me. Right here, you can see
Speaker 3: my house, and so that's the top of the house.
Speaker 3: So the bottom floor is ten foot tall and these
Speaker 3: are twelve foot tall. Okay, and when I stand at
Speaker 3: the if I stand at the bottom of my house
Speaker 3: and I look up to the peak, that's what it
Speaker 3: was like looking at these things. So that gives you
Speaker 3: a reference, okay. And so when I looked up at them,
Speaker 3: that's how tall these were. The other ones were behind
Speaker 3: trees on the you know. And and when they moved
Speaker 3: at night, they didn't I didn't hear them running down
Speaker 3: or anything like. This kind of glided and it was
Speaker 3: amazing to see that. I've never you know, the more
Speaker 3: you get into this, the more you learn of what
Speaker 3: they can do and what they're capable of doing. And
Speaker 3: right now I'm at the point to where there's nothing
Speaker 3: they can't do, you know, So it's pretty incredible. So anyways,
Speaker 3: you asked if they import on something important something to me,
Speaker 3: So this is what I'm good to So then we
Speaker 3: got ready to leave, and there was this one that
Speaker 3: stuck its head around the tree that was there. And
Speaker 3: you ever seen that movie? Was it Thoor? Did you
Speaker 3: ever see the bridge that he walked on or whatever
Speaker 3: on the movie before?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You ever seen that thing? Okay, So this is what happened.
Speaker 3: This scene sent out something to me like a prism
Speaker 3: and it went from its eye to my eye, went
Speaker 3: back and forth and back and back and forth, and
Speaker 3: they just kept on doing that. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if anybody else could see that, but I could see it,
Speaker 3: and it was incredible. Now, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was reading my mind or reading my life or what
Speaker 3: it was doing. It didn't communicate that to me. But
Speaker 3: the night before was really incredible. Now we're talking about eyeshine.
Speaker 3: I'd got there on a Thursday up in Macy, Nebraska,
Speaker 3: and the man, the wind was howling, it was cold.
Speaker 3: It was late October when I got there, and so
Speaker 3: it was chilly. He was in the thirties, and so
Speaker 3: they didn't quite have the little camping cabin that we
Speaker 3: were there ready. So a lady offered to let us
Speaker 3: for her camper, and so we went inside the camp
Speaker 3: and everything, and so we were sleeping there in that night,
Speaker 3: and so me and Barry had talked probably my god,
Speaker 3: probably to about one o'clock in the morning. So he
Speaker 3: just fell asleep and he woke up and said, oh, man,
Speaker 3: I need to go relieve myself. I said, all right.
Speaker 3: So he steps out the camper and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden he opens up the door, and the whole time
Speaker 3: I'm trying to communicate, when I'm trying to mind speak
Speaker 3: to him, you know, and talk to him and everything,
Speaker 3: and I keep telling him, comes standing from the windows,
Speaker 3: I can take your picture. But they never would do it,
Speaker 3: you know. But anyway, he opens up the door and says,
Speaker 3: put your jacket on, come outside. So I said, okay.
Speaker 3: So I got there and got big hunting jacket onside.
Speaker 3: I go outside. The first thing I see is these
Speaker 3: two eyes looking at me, and they're nine ten feet
Speaker 3: off the ground and they're just turning like this. They're
Speaker 3: just like kaleidiscope, both of them are turning. And so
Speaker 3: I look at it and I said this. He said,
Speaker 3: introduce yourself to them. So that's what you always do.
Speaker 3: So I walked in there and I said, my name
Speaker 3: is Scott Pace. I said, I came from Louisiana, came
Speaker 3: a long ways and buy the Gulf of Mexico. And
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I just want to learn from
Speaker 3: y'all whatever y'all want to show me or teach me,
Speaker 3: you know. And all of a sudden, she says, sing. Now,
Speaker 3: how did she know that I used to sing? And
Speaker 3: stuff like that? So she said sing and said, Jacob,
Speaker 3: you'll appreciate that. So she said, she said, well, this
Speaker 3: is the part. It's a church song. So she wanted
Speaker 3: me to sing a hymn. But when she community it
Speaker 3: can communicated that to my brain. That's what came to me.
Speaker 3: And so I began to sing a church song to her.
Speaker 3: And when I sang a church song to her, two
Speaker 3: little things came up out of the ground like this.
Speaker 3: And you see what I'm saying. They just rose up
Speaker 3: out of the ground.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that the song was that you sang?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it is well with my soul?
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yes, when when peace like a reverting died my way,
Speaker 3: when sal rose like see billows roll, and I begin
Speaker 3: to singing that, Okay, I'm not gonna go to the
Speaker 3: old songs. As soon as I got to that, these
Speaker 3: two little figures come up like this. That night. You're
Speaker 3: not gonna see a full bodied sasquatch. You only see figures,
Speaker 3: is what they do. They're they're what you refer to
Speaker 3: as a shadow people, you know, because that's what you're
Speaker 3: gonna see at night as shadows. And I personally have
Speaker 3: never seen seen one at night that was solid like
Speaker 3: that when they were, you know, a ways away from everything.
Speaker 3: Only look like a figure is what it looks like.
Speaker 3: And so they came up and also they had the
Speaker 3: eyes and they were all all of their eyes were
Speaker 3: white and blue is what they looked like. And so
Speaker 3: that that's some eyesh on cases for you that I've had.
Speaker 3: I thought was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: So the most recent experience I have personally had with
Speaker 2: eyes shine. So we don't do spotlight hunting in my household.
Speaker 2: We just we believe it hunting fair. But we did
Speaker 2: go frogging not too terribly long ago in Sorrento and
Speaker 2: we happened to see a panther. Now you are somebody
Speaker 2: who has spent a fair amount of time in the
Speaker 2: woods in Louisiana, so you do know that we have
Speaker 2: big cats in Louisiana.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, all that, we absolutely do and have panthers.
Speaker 4: I have looked it up extensively.
Speaker 2: Okay, ravenly. We do not have panthers as in the
Speaker 2: African genus of black leopard. No, we do not. However,
Speaker 2: it is it's essentially a by you cougar.
Speaker 1: It is a type of cougar. Let's okay, So let's
Speaker 1: call it the type of cougar.
Speaker 2: It's a big ass cat the size of a pit
Speaker 2: bull that's black. Call it would it looks like a panther.
Speaker 1: Toms are bigger than that though.
Speaker 4: To show you, cougars on the West coast like they
Speaker 4: are way larger than.
Speaker 1: But they are not a panther.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, no, I have gone to extensive research just.
Speaker 1: To prove you're from Oregon.
Speaker 2: You don't be knowing.
Speaker 1: I have lived here for over a decade.
Speaker 2: I've lived in my whole life. Come at me with.
Speaker 1: Your fish all over this state for many years.
Speaker 2: Fish at night.
Speaker 4: I have gone fishing at night, thank you. I've gone
Speaker 4: frog and I've done all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 3: Listen, I could I tell you some place to go
Speaker 3: fishing at night. If you go saltwater fishing, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you where the dog men are.
Speaker 1: At will I will go, I will yeah.
Speaker 2: My point is yes, Okay. What would you call if
Speaker 2: you got a giant long tail cat, not a bobcat,
Speaker 2: not a links with a little stubtail, A long tail
Speaker 2: cat that is the size of pit bull that's pitch black.
Speaker 2: What would you just like randomly call that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it.
Speaker 2: What can't you randomly call that panther?
Speaker 1: I would not.
Speaker 4: It's like the same thing as the whole conversation about
Speaker 4: we don't have fucking tarantulas.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, we don't.
Speaker 4: In fact do yes, we do, look it up right now,
Speaker 4: we actually do we have insect.
Speaker 2: But do you know do you know why the game
Speaker 2: wardens and the wildlife and fisheries will not acknowledge that
Speaker 2: Louisiana has long tail big cats in this state?
Speaker 1: Why would we say that we have panthers?
Speaker 2: No, forget the word panther, long tail big cats. Do
Speaker 2: you know why they want acknowledge that? Even though I
Speaker 2: got a whole slew of dudes with trail cams that
Speaker 2: will show you, yes we do. Why won't the government
Speaker 2: officiating bodies acknowledge this? Because then it is their problem.
Speaker 2: It's like acknowledging there's wolves in a place where we're
Speaker 2: not supposed to have wolves here. It's like, well, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you. That's not a coyote.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's really not a big deal. Everybody everybody
Speaker 4: hunts everything here.
Speaker 2: Everything people in Louisiana. We be some outlaws, not all
Speaker 2: of us. My household is not. But yes, and we
Speaker 2: got hunters that are getting slain by some big cats,
Speaker 2: and the game warnings now have to acknowledge it. That's
Speaker 2: a problem for them. But beside the point what I
Speaker 2: was saying. Anyway, So we had our headlights on doing
Speaker 2: the frog in as we do, and we saw this
Speaker 2: massive creature which it wasn't a deer, No.
Speaker 3: It was groom.
Speaker 2: I don't seem too this one and that. No, this
Speaker 2: was clearly a cat because it had green eyeshine. So
Speaker 2: for anybody who is listening that doesn't know exactly what
Speaker 2: eyeshine is, and for all the good cult members, clearly
Speaker 2: y'all are upstanding members of society. All the people listening
Speaker 2: to this, you would never spotlight hunt in your life.
Speaker 2: That that's for outlaws and degens. Of course, our our
Speaker 2: good listeners would never do that. However, if you're ever
Speaker 2: in the woods, they spotlight in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Certain animals have a certain color that their eyes will
Speaker 2: shine back at you, as Scott is saying, some of
Speaker 2: them are more yellow, some of them are more red.
Speaker 2: That's why, for instance, whenever you look at a dog's
Speaker 2: picture old school polaroid pictures, they would have red eyeshine
Speaker 2: to them exactly. Cats have a green eye shine, and
Speaker 2: apparently the Sasquatch, the tree folk, and the dog men,
Speaker 2: they all have their own independent eyeshine color. That is,
Speaker 2: it's unmistakable. You're not gonna you're not gonna see this
Speaker 2: massive nine foot things spot shine your spotlight. And I
Speaker 2: want to be like, oh, that must have been a
Speaker 2: black bear. I must be a little I must be
Speaker 2: a little kerfuffled this evening. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 2: looking at. That's not what we're talking about here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the dog Man. They actually have yellow eyes
Speaker 3: at night, and they're pointed like they're pointed kind of
Speaker 3: like the inside is pointed down.
Speaker 4: A little bit freaky, to be honest with you, they
Speaker 4: sound they sound like terrifyingly scary to look at. But
Speaker 4: from everybody we've heard accounts from them, just like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm really good, I'm really okay not to see these
Speaker 4: things ever in my life.
Speaker 2: Scott, you were the first person I want to tell
Speaker 2: us about the dog men ever ever on the Colt Conspiracy.
Speaker 2: In the past six months, we have had people, multiple
Speaker 2: people tell us about the dog Man, not shape shifters,
Speaker 2: dog men specifically man from all over the country, Pacific, Northwest.
Speaker 4: Actually world because let's get freaky talked about it too.
Speaker 4: That's true in Britain, over in Britain, so like there's
Speaker 4: been and also in the New Zealand like Cryptid Women's
Speaker 4: Society talked about it. So there's been multiple accounts globally
Speaker 4: right now that we've heard about. In the last six months,
Speaker 4: we've heard a ton about this. So it's like, I
Speaker 4: wonder if it poses a question if they're actually like
Speaker 4: there's a whole bunch of them coming about.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing. How'd they get here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can of Warne, Well, yeah, there's one. Here's another thing
Speaker 3: is what if aliens brought him here? What if UFOs
Speaker 3: brought him here?
Speaker 2: It's possible.
Speaker 1: Are they the hunting party?
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. How do you get a dog
Speaker 3: man on New Zealand?
Speaker 2: I mean you have to drop it off exactly right.
Speaker 2: But that's so Scott here here has always been the
Speaker 2: one to say that the dog Men are the the
Speaker 2: guard dogs slash scouting party for the tree folk. They
Speaker 2: work in collaboration with each other, absolutely the same way
Speaker 2: that I have Harley at my house. But the cult
Speaker 2: members that don't know. I have a English massive at
Speaker 2: my house. She lives in my home, she sleeps in
Speaker 2: my home, she protects my house. You know. She's a
Speaker 2: slober monster, but I love her to death. That's my girl.
Speaker 2: But's had to point the same way. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that the sasquatch viewed the dogmen as their pets.
Speaker 2: It's more like they are the outer court on for
Speaker 2: their familial groups. Am I about close familiar?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Can I can I explain the hierarchy to you? Okay?
Speaker 3: So in most cases, in most cases, the sasquatch are
Speaker 3: the more dominant species, are cryptid. Okay, then you have
Speaker 3: the dog man. But if you have say five dog men,
Speaker 3: and they're coming up to a sasquatch by itself, and
Speaker 3: that's a whole different story, you know. And so they
Speaker 3: could say, say, you have a a a sasquatch that's
Speaker 3: I got too old, they kicked it out of the clan.
Speaker 3: It's a male that's got to find its own clan
Speaker 3: and everything. And so then you have all these dog
Speaker 3: men that are just rogue and they come attack it. Now,
Speaker 3: I could be a serious situation there, because there are
Speaker 3: cases that I've heard of where the dog men have
Speaker 3: actually taken down a sasquatch. You have to understand, I
Speaker 3: mean they're predators. You know, they're fierce predators.
Speaker 1: And so pretty much.
Speaker 3: No, no, they don't do nothing like hold.
Speaker 1: Like a hyena to a lion kind of a situation.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that if you if compared the situation, yes,
Speaker 3: it would be like that, correct, it would be. But
Speaker 3: going back to my story in twenty nineteen, I'm going
Speaker 3: to elaborate that. Now for a little bit we can
Speaker 3: talk about I'll teach you about the hierarchy. And so
Speaker 3: whenever I had my experience in twenty nineteen, I was
Speaker 3: sitting on my deer standing. It's about six o'clock in
Speaker 3: the evening. The sun's going down, so I'm just sitting
Speaker 3: here playing with my cell phone. And I looked up.
Speaker 3: I looked looked straight, and I looked to the left.
Speaker 3: Did and see anything? Look to the right, and I
Speaker 3: keep on looking. I'm looking for deer, you're not looking
Speaker 3: for a say, a sasquatch or a dog man. All
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you get this really high pitch noise.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know what it was at the time,
Speaker 3: but it's called infrasound, and it hits me on the
Speaker 3: side of my left side and my head goes sideways
Speaker 3: with At the same time, my thirty all six in
Speaker 3: the corner begins to vibrate. So I grabbed a gun
Speaker 3: and I look over and when I look over out
Speaker 3: the window, I see something and I see this scene.
Speaker 3: It looks like it's moving and squatting down. So I
Speaker 3: take my cell phone and I pick it up in
Speaker 3: the winter and I just zoom in as much as
Speaker 3: I can. I take a picture. H Well, when I
Speaker 3: do that, I said, man, it looks like a person
Speaker 3: in dreads or something like that, you know. And I said,
Speaker 3: what in the world is somebody doing in our release,
Speaker 3: you know? So now I take my rifle and I
Speaker 3: pick it up. As soon as I take my rifle
Speaker 3: and I pick my thirty all six, I have really
Speaker 3: nice scope on it. It's a red field. And when
Speaker 3: I look through this this scope, I see this face
Speaker 3: y'all on his face as black as black as coal,
Speaker 3: and his skin on it's really really alye, very very early,
Speaker 3: but I mean it looks like tar, looks just like tar.
Speaker 3: And then the eyes were beautiful, The eyes were yellow
Speaker 3: and orange okay, And then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: see some movement to and it kind of turns like this,
Speaker 3: and when it turns, I look to see what it's
Speaker 3: looking at. So I move over and I'll see this
Speaker 3: dog man. This dog man's looking at me. I didn't
Speaker 3: know at the time, I know what all this was,
Speaker 3: but this dog man's head was a two foot long
Speaker 3: and looks just like a wolf or kyote, looks just
Speaker 3: like that. The snout is black, there's gray, it's got
Speaker 3: black ears. And at the time I didn't know what
Speaker 3: it was, you know, I didn't know what in the
Speaker 3: world this scene was. So I'm looking back and forth,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the dog man tells me,
Speaker 3: starts sending a telepathy to me and says, put down
Speaker 3: the gun or I'm going to come over there and
Speaker 3: tear that building down and kill you. Excuse me, and
Speaker 3: I'll send it at the same time. This is weird
Speaker 3: of being choked up right now. But anyways, this this
Speaker 3: big foot turns to it, and I can hear the conversation.
Speaker 3: Now it turns to it and says, hey, leave him along.
Speaker 3: His finger's not on a trigger. Now I've got my
Speaker 3: gun like this but see my finger Jacob, you know
Speaker 3: this being in the military. My fingers here, Oh, Raven
Speaker 3: Lee's a Marine Corps veteran as.
Speaker 2: Well, so you too, Okay, well we've both got you
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: So my fingers, my fingers up top, it's not inside
Speaker 3: you know where they're on the trigger itself, and so
Speaker 3: my fingers on the side, And so how did it
Speaker 3: know that from forty yards away? Okay? So then they
Speaker 3: start having a conversation back and forth, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm still having my gun right there, looking
Speaker 3: at it, and he said, he's just looking, he's just
Speaker 3: looking at us. All of a sudden, the dog Man
Speaker 3: begins to admit something to me, and what it was
Speaker 3: was like the spirit of fears all the thing, I say,
Speaker 3: and I began to shake, like violently, like I was cold,
Speaker 3: but really really cold. And all of a sudden, the
Speaker 3: Sasquat says, leave me alone, stop it, and so he stops.
Speaker 3: Now you can see the level of where the hierarchy comes, okay,
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, the Bigfoot begins to admit
Speaker 3: something at me again, love, peace, calm, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden they're going back and forth, and they're just
Speaker 3: doing that, talking to each other, okay, And all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, this voice comes to me and says, leave now.
Speaker 3: So I grab my backpack and I start leaving out
Speaker 3: this box, saying that I'm in and I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm high stepping it. As soon as I get out
Speaker 3: of the box, STANDO, I take the safety off and
Speaker 3: I got my finger ready. I said, if something comes out,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start blasting, you know.
Speaker 2: And just this is land that you've hunted your entire life, Greg,
Speaker 2: this is up near.
Speaker 3: Yes, not my entire life, but yes, since I was
Speaker 3: a little boy, we've hunted all this land and stuff
Speaker 3: for our family, my my dad's side, the families where
Speaker 3: we hunt out all the time. But we still hunt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: still having experiences. And so I mean that's the thing is.
Speaker 3: I think it's just a highly, very very highly active area.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So why do you think that though? Is there like
Speaker 1: a specific reason.
Speaker 4: Do you think that it's on a lay line or
Speaker 4: do you think that there's kind of some situation happening
Speaker 4: with energy.
Speaker 3: I think that I think all that. I think there's
Speaker 3: energy there. I think there's lay lines. I think it's portals.
Speaker 3: I seen a high activity of UFOs there. I even
Speaker 3: showed my cousin in the sky. I showed them these
Speaker 3: lights going across all this is. Can you see my fingers?
Speaker 3: I see when going one time like this in the
Speaker 3: UFO drop just like that.
Speaker 4: Because we've heard all sorts of different sheapes and sizes
Speaker 4: and things.
Speaker 3: Those up there I couldn't see because they were just
Speaker 3: bright lights, is what it looked like. Okay, so they
Speaker 3: weren't close enough to tell what that was. But I
Speaker 3: have seen some mores and different ones around my house before,
Speaker 3: and I've seen just about everything. I've seen cubes. Me
Speaker 3: and my wife right after Hurricane Ida, seeing one coming
Speaker 3: out that was a light. And then also in this
Speaker 3: light I pointed out and I told us I can
Speaker 3: see you, and this s ain't changed allways. Funny, it
Speaker 3: just turned into like a disc, like a CD disc,
Speaker 3: and it was turning counterclockwise and it was blue and silver,
Speaker 3: and it was hollowing inside. When it almost got directly
Speaker 3: over us, it just took off west.
Speaker 2: So talking about Casachi though, I got to tell you,
Speaker 2: so we excuse me, we plan on going and doing
Speaker 2: some deer hunting here. This hunting season at Kassachi National Force.
Speaker 2: So my brother, who is an avid deer hunter, he
Speaker 2: has a lease here local to uh I guess technically
Speaker 2: is movie like convent, right, But he for the past
Speaker 2: two years has gone to the wildlife refuge area in Kassachi. Now,
Speaker 2: when you go and hunt on wildlife refuge areas, it's
Speaker 2: it's kind of a crapshoot, you know. It's sometimes you'll
Speaker 2: get the people like too many, you know, locals or
Speaker 2: people that don't really respect other hunters, and it's a
Speaker 2: real problem for everybody. He has told us for two
Speaker 2: years now they have a slew of deer that come
Speaker 2: out of the Kasachi area. And I'm telling you what.
Speaker 2: So my oldest has never put down a deer. My
Speaker 2: middle she wants to put down a deer. And we
Speaker 2: have been told basically, you just need to sit there
Speaker 2: with a lawn chair on one of these pipelines, and
Speaker 2: Kasachi is where the deer at. So when you're telling
Speaker 2: us that you've been hunting there since you were a
Speaker 2: little boy, I've been hearing some really good things about
Speaker 2: that neck of the woods.
Speaker 3: So what you have to do, there's two things you
Speaker 3: gotta look at. You gotta you gotta look at the
Speaker 3: area that you're hunting in Kasachi is huge. I mean
Speaker 3: it's they have different districts, right, So what you do
Speaker 3: is you gotta look at that district and then you
Speaker 3: have certain days you have either bucks or doz you
Speaker 3: can hunt and the other and then other times it's
Speaker 3: just just bucks only. And so you have to be
Speaker 3: very careful when you go in there to hunt because
Speaker 3: especially if you're in a management area, they're gonna check
Speaker 3: everything you do that's right, And so that's when you're
Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna notice that the most hunters go up
Speaker 3: there is when they have both antlered and non antlered
Speaker 3: that you can go and hunt.
Speaker 2: It depends on the year because for a while Louisiana
Speaker 2: had dough day and then they may to where basically
Speaker 2: if it was brown is down. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what the current standing is, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: we got a few months left till hunting season yet
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six, so.
Speaker 3: Right HOPEFU Yeah, when when October comes around again, then
Speaker 3: then what you do is is, well, here are some
Speaker 3: of the rules too, is that during most of them,
Speaker 3: if you have a bow, you can hunt all season long, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: and then still still as far as I know, what
Speaker 3: applies is is bucks only until certain days and you
Speaker 3: have dough days. But what they'll do is they'll extend
Speaker 3: extend the dough days if they have a whole lot
Speaker 3: more doz. And that's that's how you do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. All I've been told is basically Kasachi is where
Speaker 2: they got monsters. Where any old person and you know,
Speaker 2: usually when you're on a deer lease, you may have
Speaker 2: a few big boys out there that everybody's trying to
Speaker 2: take and it's a whole problem. Apparently at Kasachi they
Speaker 2: got them in droves. I've been told nothing but positive
Speaker 2: things about that area as far as hunting is concerned.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's a nice that's some nice dear out there.
Speaker 3: I've seen two ten points. I've got an eight point before.
Speaker 3: That's the largest I've got so far. Yeah, And just
Speaker 3: a rule of thumb before we go into wood, shoot
Speaker 3: your gun make sure it's own. Oh all, I gotta say,
Speaker 3: you're right. I'm not saying I'm not. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: anything else as I'm gonost say about that. Make sure
Speaker 3: make sure your gun is on before you shoot it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's twice. That's twice I've been burned. I just
Speaker 3: came came from south down here, went up there and
Speaker 3: I didn't shoot my gun for or went in and
Speaker 3: just said okayh yeah, still honest and no, don't do
Speaker 3: that when the woods and shot. I've missed two really
Speaker 3: nice dear because of that. But yeah, getting getting back
Speaker 3: to the UFOs and stuff like that, I think that
Speaker 3: it all comes together and they work together. And so
Speaker 3: there have been cases to where, uh, people have actually
Speaker 3: seen UFOs and they've actually seen the Sasquatch come out
Speaker 3: of the UFOs and so that's around I want to
Speaker 3: stay up around Pittsburgh or something like that. There was
Speaker 3: a guy that made a case of that, and then
Speaker 3: some other cases too.
Speaker 2: I've heard stories about this and you're you're one of
Speaker 2: the people that have said that, No, they come out
Speaker 2: of the trees, not out of the UFOs. That seems
Speaker 2: to be up north. We hear of the Sasquad's coming
Speaker 2: out of craft.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's everywhere. But let's go back to that, okay,
Speaker 3: because I want to revisit this. So you have craft, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's one thing. Can they come out of trees. Yes,
Speaker 3: let me tell you how that happens. So it's called
Speaker 3: quantum physics. Now am I a professor or scientists?
Speaker 4: Know?
Speaker 3: I'm just an everyday guy like you know everybody else. Okay,
Speaker 3: but I don't understand all that works. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: explain and try to tell you how it works. All
Speaker 3: I know is yes, they can, they can de energize,
Speaker 3: they can go from a solid form into a fiscal form.
Speaker 3: And from what I understand is they go inside as
Speaker 3: a spiritual form. They go inside the trees and they
Speaker 3: use the trees as energy. A lot of times in
Speaker 3: the daytime, that's what they'll do, and they'll come out
Speaker 3: at night. So another story is or experience, I will say,
Speaker 3: not a story because stories can be made up. But anyway,
Speaker 3: while I was up there, I asked Barry, who was
Speaker 3: an American Indian Omahall tribe, and I asked him, I said, Hey,
Speaker 3: what's the craziest story you've ever heard about these things?
Speaker 3: He said, okay, he said he's thinking about it. He said, well,
Speaker 3: my nephew was running from the Reds police. He'd got
Speaker 3: some trouble and stuff like that, and so they were
Speaker 3: chasing him and he had ran and he ran like
Speaker 3: five miles or something like that, and he got to
Speaker 3: this tall brown grass and see he's runn through that
Speaker 3: grass and he just finally just couldn't go no more.
Speaker 3: He just laid like face down and just almost passed out.
Speaker 3: So he's sitting there trying to get his breath and everything.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden he feels the ground shake, and
Speaker 3: he said, this sasquatch comes out of the ground. A
Speaker 3: sea tongue comes out of the ground a little ways
Speaker 3: from him, walks up to him, looks down over him
Speaker 3: and goes humh like that, it turns it on, walks off. Wo.
Speaker 3: See now see that's part of things it's hard for
Speaker 3: me to comprehend, is how can they come out of
Speaker 3: the ground? How can they come out of trees? Now?
Speaker 4: So deem there they're breaking down their actual construction of
Speaker 4: their cells and creating it. So when you were talking
Speaker 4: about orbs earlier, I was thinking about that because, like,
Speaker 4: as this conversation has been unfolding. So I mean, if
Speaker 4: you look at like sci fi kind of things, there's
Speaker 4: conversations way back in the day. I mean, like way
Speaker 4: back when we were talking about black and white, there
Speaker 4: is a show that actually talked about like quantum physics
Speaker 4: and how you would break down your cellul makeup and
Speaker 4: be able to travel by the speed of light and
Speaker 4: you would be turned into light pretty much, and then
Speaker 4: you would re materialize on the end of it and
Speaker 4: sell by cell rebuild yourself.
Speaker 2: This Jedi shit, basically, it's.
Speaker 4: Well, it was Quantum Leap is what the show was called,
Speaker 4: I think it was, And it was a really old
Speaker 4: show and I used to watch it as a kid,
Speaker 4: and they would talk all about like how you could
Speaker 4: materialize as light in different places and things like that.
Speaker 4: And so as you're saying like they would come from
Speaker 4: the ground, I'm curious how that would happen, Like would
Speaker 4: they burrow themselves? Would they break down their cellular makeup?
Speaker 4: Like could they I don't know. I'm just curious in
Speaker 4: the sense of a scientific way of how this would
Speaker 4: actually work in a sense.
Speaker 2: But what does a fourth dimensional entity look like or
Speaker 2: act like to a third dimensional Well, I.
Speaker 4: Mean that's the common you know, conversation, is that we
Speaker 4: can't perceive the other dimensions, and so if it's shifting
Speaker 4: into a dimension where we can't actually perceive it, then
Speaker 4: they could be completely intact. We just no longer can
Speaker 4: actually perceive them or see them in this plane because
Speaker 4: we can't actually see any further than what we can
Speaker 4: understand on the third dimensional plane. So it very well
Speaker 4: could be that they're shifting into other planes that we
Speaker 4: can't actually comprehend because we cannot see them or hear them,
Speaker 4: because that's just not what humans at this time can do.
Speaker 4: That could be very and that could be something. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of different variables of what could be
Speaker 4: taking place. The problem is is that, you know, how
Speaker 4: are we actually going to get the easy answers unless
Speaker 4: the beings themselves give us the answers.
Speaker 3: So whenever that happened, I came home and I'll you
Speaker 3: know that night after my experience happened too that I
Speaker 3: was nineteen and I'm flying the door and it's like
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock at night. My wife's like, what in the
Speaker 3: world are you doing? What are you doing here? You know?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, something happened to me. She goes,
Speaker 3: what you get in a fight with somebody's And I said, no,
Speaker 3: I said, me and my family don't fight. I said,
Speaker 3: it's weird. I don't know. I just got to show
Speaker 3: it to you. I said, I took a picture. She goes, what,
Speaker 3: So I showed her this picture, you know, and it
Speaker 3: showed them in there and everything in the picture. But
Speaker 3: here's where it gets crazy. Not long after that, they
Speaker 3: came to my house. And what happened was they were
Speaker 3: like in another dimension, but they were communicating with me
Speaker 3: via telepathy and through mine speak what they call mine
Speaker 3: speaking stuff. And so I'd worked real hard at work
Speaker 3: and everything, and I just remember getting up that that
Speaker 3: morning and went and fixed me a cup of coffee
Speaker 3: and stuff, and I'm sitting in my recliner and just
Speaker 3: kind of waking up, trying to get you know, get
Speaker 3: going and everything. That Saturday morning, and they came to
Speaker 3: me and they said, why did you cut the trees down?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what they said, why did you cut
Speaker 3: the trees? We had clearcut our property. Now we knew
Speaker 3: they were going to come clear cut, but we just
Speaker 3: leased that property, so it's not our property. And so
Speaker 3: I began to understand. I'm again to explain to them,
Speaker 3: get them to understand that we only leased the property.
Speaker 3: It's not ours. Somebody else owns it. And so I
Speaker 3: began to tell them and say, look, we just leased
Speaker 3: the property. It's not ours. I said, that's why you
Speaker 3: only see me there personally five or six times a year.
Speaker 3: I said, you only see me shoot deer or hogs.
Speaker 3: That is it. I don't shoot anything. I don't point
Speaker 3: my gun anything else. I don't do anything like that.
Speaker 3: And so when that happened, I began to feel this
Speaker 3: spirit of depression over this this sasquatch or entity whatever's
Speaker 3: communicate with me, which I thought it was them because
Speaker 3: they said they come and told me. He said, look,
Speaker 3: that was our home. They said, that's where we live
Speaker 3: at that was our home, and it walked away. Well,
Speaker 3: getting back to the quantum physics things and all that,
Speaker 3: you know, I had a hard time dealing with all
Speaker 3: this stuff. In the very beginning. I thought I was
Speaker 3: gonna go crazy. I mean I had as being a
Speaker 3: born again Christian. One of the things that got in
Speaker 3: my head was okay, is this demonic or what is
Speaker 3: this stuff is? And so they began to come to
Speaker 3: me and they said, no, we're not demons. They said,
Speaker 3: we're just another race of beings. Are people? And I said, oh,
Speaker 3: okay people. They said, yes, we're a race of people.
Speaker 3: I said, oh, okay, And so they said, it's not
Speaker 3: what you believe, it's what you're willing to accept. And
Speaker 3: I said, explain to him. And he said, well, you
Speaker 3: got your cell phone, right and I said yeah. He said,
Speaker 3: you know how to open up apps and different things
Speaker 3: and stuff and open up do certainly And I say,
Speaker 3: I know, said I do some of that stuff. I'm
Speaker 3: not the brightest one out there. They said, yeah, but
Speaker 3: you accept that once you do it, it's work, right.
Speaker 3: I said yes, And they said, well that's how it
Speaker 3: is with this too. You don't have to know everything.
Speaker 3: You just got to accept it. You got to accept
Speaker 3: that they're able to come out of the ground. You
Speaker 3: got to accept that they come out of trees. You
Speaker 3: got to accept that they can go through time. And
Speaker 3: also I begin to just basically accept it, and I
Speaker 3: try to fight it with my brain because see that's
Speaker 3: what a lot of people do in this is say
Speaker 3: they can't go any further with all this, and they can't.
Speaker 3: Once they have an experience, they will have a breakdown
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, because it's not supposed to be.
Speaker 3: It's it's when the things of fiction and folk lore
Speaker 3: they just come to life. And they become reality. And
Speaker 3: so that's that's what happens. So you have to understand
Speaker 3: that there's things in this world that some people see.
Speaker 3: Not everybody, but some people see these things. And a
Speaker 3: lot of times you can be looking right at them
Speaker 3: in the woods and never know they're there. I point
Speaker 3: out to my cousins and stuff before up there, and
Speaker 3: I've showed them pictures here they are right here. Okay,
Speaker 3: here they are, and and like I don't I still
Speaker 3: don't see it. I don't see it, don't see it.
Speaker 3: I said, well, you're not probably not going to pick
Speaker 3: up on it then, you know, because you almost have
Speaker 3: to have an ability to see these things. Now. Now
Speaker 3: here's the thing that I remember. They used to have
Speaker 3: the newspaper and be able to have things inside, these
Speaker 3: little polka dot things you look at and you see
Speaker 3: a shape or something there. I never could see that.
Speaker 3: Now what's funny is now and now I can see
Speaker 3: it now? Now what changed and I was able to
Speaker 3: do that? I don't know. I can't tell you. All
Speaker 3: I know is now I can see them. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: My third eye is open, correcte. So my third eye
Speaker 3: is open. I've learned about that. Yeah, and uh, that's
Speaker 3: another thing I've learned through Jacob and the Third Eye
Speaker 3: and all that. But getting back to it, yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean perception and how you can how you're
Speaker 4: able to perceive different things and you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So yep, yeah, and then getting back to the dog man.
Speaker 3: A dog man a whole different their whole different entity,
Speaker 3: a whole different thing, you know. And one experience I
Speaker 3: had was I was that I was standing with my
Speaker 3: cousin year before last, and they have these coyotes that
Speaker 3: come around. Now, they do have codies out there in
Speaker 3: the woods. Okay, you're gonna hear, but they're high pitched noise.
Speaker 3: But when you hear something that's lower, that is not
Speaker 3: a coyote at all. That's a dog man, okay. And
Speaker 3: so I began to hear these things, and my cousin's
Speaker 3: dog was outside and he has a German shepherd, and
Speaker 3: this thing began to go off, you know, like he
Speaker 3: was they were howling, he was howling. They would howl
Speaker 3: and he would howl. So I said, Well'm gonna go
Speaker 3: outside and seem like see his coyotes, you know. And
Speaker 3: then my cousin's eye, you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: see him, and said that it's too dark and everything
Speaker 3: out there. Well, they had a quarter moon, so I
Speaker 3: could see a little bit. So I went outside with
Speaker 3: the dog and I'm looking at the dog dogs looking
Speaker 3: at me, and all of a sudden, dog got real stiff,
Speaker 3: I mean, just got stiff and started pointing toward this
Speaker 3: one area. So I started looking where he was looking,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, all the hair on his
Speaker 3: back stood up, and his tail puts up like a cat.
Speaker 3: He just puffed up. And all of a sudden, these
Speaker 3: two dog men walked up. And these things were big, man,
Speaker 3: I mean, and they were every bit of seven to
Speaker 3: eight tall. And what was weird? Two more walked up,
Speaker 3: so there was four of them total, and they had
Speaker 3: the yellow eyes and stuff, and they were looking at
Speaker 3: each other and they're looking at me and the dog,
Speaker 3: and the dog took off and ran inside his doghouse.
Speaker 3: That was hilarious. And I'm sitting there and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden.
Speaker 4: At all, like you didn't think maybe that these were
Speaker 4: like hog pounds or demons of some type.
Speaker 3: No, I was kind of scared, but wasn't scared, but
Speaker 3: I was like more intrigued, more shocked, you know, because
Speaker 3: once you see these things, I'm like, I didn't want
Speaker 3: to go out there and run and talk to them.
Speaker 3: But they were just as they were, just shocked and
Speaker 3: seeing me as I was them, because they were looking
Speaker 3: at each other, look at each other, and like they
Speaker 3: were kind of communicator or something. They were like, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's going on with this guy? See us and all that,
Speaker 3: you know. But I seen him playing as day and
Speaker 3: I could see him in the woods, and I just
Speaker 3: went back inside my cousin's house, you know. So I
Speaker 3: slocked the door, but I looked back and it was weird.
Speaker 3: As soon as I walked inside the house, I turn around,
Speaker 3: looked back, but they were gone just that fast.
Speaker 2: This is the first time you saw the dog man? Correct?
Speaker 3: No? No, I mean I've seen them probably three or
Speaker 3: four times. I've seen them in the woods. Okay, most
Speaker 3: most time they keep their distance, especially when you're hunting,
Speaker 3: you're sitting on a deer stand, they going to stay
Speaker 3: away from you. But what they do is they get
Speaker 3: really low. They crossed down like this, and they get low.
Speaker 3: If you can see me in the thing, I don't
Speaker 3: know they can see them in the podcast all that.
Speaker 3: But anyways, they get low like they're like a dog,
Speaker 3: crawls towards you. That's what they'll do, and now actually
Speaker 3: sneak up on you and get close to you and
Speaker 3: start just scoping you out and just looking at you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, the forest.
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, So I've seen some weird things,
Speaker 4: but yep, things.
Speaker 1: That I just sown.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, eh, I'm not going to pay attention
Speaker 4: to what I've just seen. The I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 4: on chucking on. But I spend a lot of times
Speaker 4: in the organ forest all over the place up in
Speaker 4: Oregon and Washington.
Speaker 3: So but let me ask you a question. When you've
Speaker 3: seen something or felt something strange or weird, did you
Speaker 3: ever take pictures?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, I never took pictures of anything.
Speaker 4: I just kind of was like, see, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: but with me personally, I'm just more or less like
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just keep on guard and then I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna keep on ignoring whatever is gonna be there, because
Speaker 4: you know, if I don't interact with it, it's gonna
Speaker 4: not interact with me.
Speaker 1: And we're just gonna keep on ignoring each other and
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: The check engine light in your car. If you ignore
Speaker 2: it probably gonna work itself out. You know it's there.
Speaker 1: Next time, I felt some weird.
Speaker 4: So there's some places in Orgon where when you hike
Speaker 4: there is like no one around, like nothing around you
Speaker 4: for a good long ways and it starts to kind
Speaker 4: of feel And I love the Organ Forest, I mean,
Speaker 4: I grew up there and it's like probably my favorite
Speaker 4: place on Earth where I can go and just kind
Speaker 4: of re energize my soul. But there is specific places
Speaker 4: I've hiked that are very heavy, Like you as you
Speaker 4: get deeper into the forest, it feels almost oppressive in
Speaker 4: certain places. Now it's not all like it's only a
Speaker 4: hand like two or three places I can think of
Speaker 4: off the top of my head that are very like this,
Speaker 4: but in particular one place where you feel almost unwelcome,
Speaker 4: and it's not like it's it's just for a portion
Speaker 4: of time too. It's not a massive length of time,
Speaker 4: but it's just this one section of the forest that
Speaker 4: you go through that it's like almost suffocating to walk through.
Speaker 1: And then you get on the.
Speaker 4: Other side and it's like you can take this massive
Speaker 4: breath and you're like Oh okay, Well, everything's fine, like
Speaker 4: keep on trucking on. But the whole time you're in
Speaker 4: that area, it feels like you're just being heavily watched.
Speaker 4: Whatever is there is just like we are watching you.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna keep on walking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not paying attention to Like I'm clearly paying
Speaker 4: attention to my surroundings at all times, but I'm also
Speaker 4: very aware of whatever that feeling is is not something
Speaker 4: that I'm actually able to see with my human eye
Speaker 4: kind of thing. It's just just a weird feeling in
Speaker 4: this particular areas. But it's not a lot of places,
Speaker 4: but it's deep, deep, deep in the forest. When you're
Speaker 4: like an avid hiker like I was, it was certain
Speaker 4: places that you find it's like, you know, it's almost
Speaker 4: like evil spirits can like just kind of collected there,
Speaker 4: or there's some type of something that's there that doesn't
Speaker 4: want you there, you know, because the Organ Trail actually
Speaker 4: winds through all of Orgon, and like there's a lot
Speaker 4: of places where you can actually see the original tree
Speaker 4: marks where the wagons actually like they hooked up to
Speaker 4: them and they were able to try to like get
Speaker 4: them to go down without losing them. And so a
Speaker 4: lot of people did you know, have some accidents and
Speaker 4: things like that, and so I would those places actually
Speaker 4: aren't that bad, but deeper into the forest as you go,
Speaker 4: it gets more kind of like creepy feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So one of the things that I started doing
Speaker 3: was every time I would get a feeling or something
Speaker 3: would happen, I'll take pictures. And so once I started
Speaker 3: taking pictures, I had people. When I first got into this,
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to look for different things, and
Speaker 3: so I started to send them out to certain people.
Speaker 3: And what's funny is women are better at finding these
Speaker 3: things than men are. And that's just a fact.
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe women know how to look for things
Speaker 2: that the men's brains just were not wired to look
Speaker 2: at things a certain way.
Speaker 4: But like our favorite things as kids though, were those
Speaker 4: hiding finds you remember, like on the back of those
Speaker 4: books and stuff, you like, find those hide and find things.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, Like I love looking for things in
Speaker 4: pictures exactly.
Speaker 3: So anyways, I would send it and I found out
Speaker 3: I've sent it to some guys and had that it
Speaker 3: was kind of all right, this ain't working. So i'd
Speaker 3: sent to these ladies. Well, these ladies were very very good.
Speaker 3: I still even to this day, I still rely on them.
Speaker 3: What if I don't see something or I know something's there,
Speaker 3: I sent it out to them and immediately comes back
Speaker 3: and they've got Sometimes they were able to highlight something
Speaker 3: or make it magnify. There's different apps you can do,
Speaker 3: and then other things that would circle it for me
Speaker 3: and send it back to me. And so that's what
Speaker 3: that's funny. You shivering. But the thing of it is,
Speaker 3: I'll say you got the goosebumps.
Speaker 1: But anyways, I was like, okay, that's weird.
Speaker 3: So anyways, what it is is that when you see
Speaker 3: these you start looking at it. First thing, you're gonna
Speaker 3: look for his eyes, okay, and it may it may
Speaker 3: be half a tree, it may be half my face,
Speaker 3: like this is my face sticking out right here. You
Speaker 3: only get that. Other times you'll get a silhouette. Okay.
Speaker 3: He looked for ears, which should be a dog man
Speaker 3: and a snout, look for something like that. Now, not
Speaker 3: all dog man or werewolves look the same. Some of
Speaker 3: them have crushed in faces. And so the other thing
Speaker 3: is bigfoot. Look as you know sasquashed look as different
Speaker 3: as we do. All three of us look different, right,
Speaker 3: they're the same way they're gonna be different. They've done
Speaker 3: all look the same, and so you look at those
Speaker 3: pictures and see them. And so that's what I started doing,
Speaker 3: was taking pictures. And even now, if I got a
Speaker 3: weird feeling, I'm immediately going toward that area and I'm
Speaker 3: taking pictures. And I sent you some of those pictures recently, Jacob.
Speaker 3: You know what I've seen even this past week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna see if I can pull them up
Speaker 2: at this time. Hold on now, so I got them
Speaker 2: pulled up on my phone. I'm gonna see if I
Speaker 2: can find a way to pull them up. Dang, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do this.
Speaker 3: Move them over.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I'm gonna try, you know what.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's how it started with all this.
Speaker 3: And I had different guys with some of the girls.
Speaker 3: Girls and ladies were way better at this and men were,
Speaker 3: and I mean they're really good and the other there's
Speaker 3: actually the ones who taught me how to how to
Speaker 3: do this. And so through this, uh, through messenger and everything,
Speaker 3: I met people literally all over the world. I still
Speaker 3: keep in contact with people in Australia. Huge, huge influence
Speaker 3: in Australia. Have a friend over there. He's some of
Speaker 3: the pictures of the small ones, which looked like an ewok.
Speaker 4: We've heard a lot about them also. Yeah, so that
Speaker 4: what are they called with the p P.
Speaker 1: Of the howiesis something.
Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of different names for them. God
Speaker 4: damn it, I can't think of the name.
Speaker 1: They're.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to call them over there. But anyways,
Speaker 3: he sent me the pictures and I was like, you
Speaker 3: gotta be kidding me. And you could see it. I mean,
Speaker 3: this thing is probably about three foot tall and it's
Speaker 3: got a round kind of head and the hair is
Speaker 3: long and yeah, yeah, I mean it's just just crazy looking.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you got to be kidding me, man, And
Speaker 3: it's sure enough. He's got the blue eyes too. And
Speaker 3: I was like, this is beautiful, you know.
Speaker 2: So real quick, this is one of the pictures that
Speaker 2: you sent us. And I'm gonna a little more clarification
Speaker 2: on this stick situation.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. All right, so let's talk about the second
Speaker 3: that is called a glyph A. Yeah, for some reason,
Speaker 3: I got my I was gonna mess up on me.
Speaker 3: A glyph is something the way they communicate, and one
Speaker 3: of the things they communicate on the ground is, of
Speaker 3: course they don't have a tap letting paper and all that.
Speaker 3: It's what they'll use is sticks. So to tell you
Speaker 3: something personal past couple of years, it kind of went
Speaker 3: through a really really hard time in my life. And
Speaker 3: I went to my cousin's house and I come back
Speaker 3: outside and I was over there and he has a
Speaker 3: deck on his front porch and everything, and that is
Speaker 3: just sitting there just like that. I didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell my cousin. I didn't tell nobody. But
Speaker 3: that was for me, and that see them let me
Speaker 3: know that everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 2: So they left the sticks in this configuration for you
Speaker 2: on your cousin's porch.
Speaker 3: Correct, And I was it. And they can read your mind, brother,
Speaker 3: when I say need to read your mind, they know
Speaker 3: what you're going through. They understand everything. And to be
Speaker 3: honest with you, it was a very very very hard time.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I won't go into it, but
Speaker 3: it was. It was some things I had to deal
Speaker 3: with in life, and I'm good with it now. And
Speaker 3: so it is what it is, you know. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: were telling me that everything was going to be okay, okay,
Speaker 3: So that's that's the picture right there. If you can
Speaker 3: zoom in on a little bit, that is one inside
Speaker 3: of the tree. This thing here, yeah, yes, yes, stop
Speaker 3: right there. Okay, So let me show you something first.
Speaker 3: Is really weird that I still don't know what in
Speaker 3: the world this is. That black thing is one in
Speaker 3: a tree. You see the black thing right in front
Speaker 3: of you, yeah, in the middle. Now look at the
Speaker 3: white thing. What is that white thing right there? I
Speaker 3: have no idea what that thing is, right, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know what that is. But look go to the
Speaker 3: left a little bit, go left at your pointer. Right there,
Speaker 3: that's a dog man. See the dog's head right there.
Speaker 1: I see it.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so that is a dog man right there. Now.
Speaker 3: And that was eight o'clock in the morning. We're at
Speaker 3: our hunt lease up there, which our camp. We finally
Speaker 3: got our camper. We got our camper moved up there,
Speaker 3: and I'm just sitting there and my wife is inside.
Speaker 3: She's doing breakfast and stuff, and I'm sitting there, just
Speaker 3: chilling out, enjoying my morning. I look over and they're
Speaker 3: sitting there watching me, So I just say heye to
Speaker 3: them and stuff like that, you know, and took a
Speaker 3: picture from far away, and then I zoomed in on
Speaker 3: it and looked at it, and the other picture you
Speaker 3: have is far away, and then it's all the way
Speaker 3: across the field just right there, our family land. And
Speaker 3: that's him up up in the tree. Now what that
Speaker 3: white thing is, I can't tell you what that thing is.
Speaker 2: You're yes, as good as mine. So this is the
Speaker 2: home picture.
Speaker 3: Right correct, And that's looking way across the field from
Speaker 3: where I'm sitting at in a chair, and I'm looking
Speaker 3: across this field and it's up in a tree, and
Speaker 3: you can see the high line, see thee electrical lines
Speaker 3: going across right there in front, so it's above the
Speaker 3: electrical lines, and it's way up, way up in the air,
Speaker 3: and it's sitting there in the tree.
Speaker 2: The skeptics are going to say, oh, so a are
Speaker 2: you telling me this doesn't look like this every single
Speaker 2: afternoon at this time, with that shadow and all these things.
Speaker 2: So you know, this lane.
Speaker 3: Slam very well. In fact, two minutes later, that wasn't there.
Speaker 3: None of that was there. I should have took another picture,
Speaker 3: but I didn't. But anyways, if you go there right
Speaker 3: now and you sit in the same spot I was sitting,
Speaker 3: and you look over there, that's not there, you know.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: And especially that white thing. If you zoom in again
Speaker 3: another picture and you see the white thing, what is
Speaker 3: the white thing right there? I don't know what that
Speaker 3: thing is. I mean, I've seen a lot of cryptids,
Speaker 3: a lot of different things in that picture. And there's
Speaker 3: a lot of different other shapes in that picture also,
Speaker 3: which I won't go into. But there's more in there
Speaker 3: than just those three are the most things that you
Speaker 3: can identify with. Okay, the rest of the stuff, I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is. I can't identify with that
Speaker 3: white thing, I have not I still don't know what
Speaker 3: that thing is.
Speaker 1: Did you walk over there and like get a closer look?
Speaker 1: Did you say.
Speaker 3: I just leave them alone?
Speaker 4: Do you wonder why specifically you're a person that can
Speaker 4: see them or like they Do you feel like you're
Speaker 4: targeted or have some kind of capability that most people
Speaker 4: don't in some particular way?
Speaker 3: Okay, that was three questions.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions when it comes to
Speaker 1: that particular.
Speaker 3: Give me what's funny though, I think Okay, one, I
Speaker 3: think I'm targeted. No, I don't think I'm targeted because
Speaker 3: they know me and they understand me. They know that
Speaker 3: I know who they are. They know that I know
Speaker 3: that I can see them, and so you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: they communicate with me, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they just there.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like we have this scene between each
Speaker 3: other where they know who I am and I know
Speaker 3: who they are. But it's like they're in their element.
Speaker 3: I'm in my element. Okay, So what you have there
Speaker 3: as we talk about things coming out of the ground
Speaker 3: right this next picture and then go back to that
Speaker 3: what do you call a pothole? I called it a pothole,
Speaker 3: and he was telling me they were coming out of
Speaker 3: the ground. Now look to the bottom left of this picture,
Speaker 3: and I must show your footprint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you circled one and I tried pulling that
Speaker 2: one up, and I guess I did not.
Speaker 3: Okay, right there, stop right there and move your cursor
Speaker 3: all the way to the left. You can kind of
Speaker 3: see it here if I can see you cursor a
Speaker 3: little bit more right there. You got it on it. Now,
Speaker 3: that is a footprint. How big it is? That's a
Speaker 3: footprint right there? But you can see yeah, and then seeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you see all that right there. That is a footprint huge.
Speaker 3: I mean you see the whole darned thing right there.
Speaker 3: And my god, that thing is what freaking eighteen inches
Speaker 3: long right here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right there.
Speaker 3: But that that's it. Yeah, you see it now? Now
Speaker 3: you right there, that.
Speaker 2: Thing in the middle.
Speaker 3: Two seconds, Yeah, yeah, Raven, you're incredible.
Speaker 1: Four right here, and there's the bottom.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Raven. Do you see the break?
Speaker 3: Do you see the break where there's like the toes
Speaker 3: and and then the back and.
Speaker 4: Then yes, so there look so this right here is
Speaker 4: the outline of the bottom and then you see the
Speaker 4: individual toes right here, yep, right there, and then there's
Speaker 4: a break right here in the between.
Speaker 3: Correct. Wow, she's got a good eye. I got to
Speaker 3: give it to you, your professional.
Speaker 2: It's true. The women are better at this than the
Speaker 2: men are. I'm not ashamed.
Speaker 1: A million man, Yeah, I can easily see it.
Speaker 3: I call these ladies the experts, and I have probably
Speaker 3: four or five of them that I go to, and
Speaker 3: I mean some of them have seen portals. A lot
Speaker 3: of them have seen portals like I've seen portals Uh,
Speaker 3: I've seen videos of portals where they open up and
Speaker 3: things come in and out of them. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: so I'm not I'm not the only one I've seen this.
Speaker 3: A lot of other people have seen portals and stuff
Speaker 3: like that too. But the thing is that pothole right there, Like,
Speaker 3: that's like a dirn pothole. Well, that's what I told him. Well,
Speaker 3: he was telling me that's what they do. They come
Speaker 3: in and out of the ground. So you know, maybe
Speaker 3: it's a spot where they come out of you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's just this footprint over there.
Speaker 3: So I'm putting two and two together, saying, hey, and
Speaker 3: what's funny is is he would answer my questions. Sometimes
Speaker 3: he wouldn't directly answer my questions, you know. He's like
Speaker 3: he wouldn't give me a whole story, which is fair,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm like, all right, I'm good with that.
Speaker 3: But if you look around in that picture, keep looking around,
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna see more footprints in there. I just
Speaker 3: seen that, and then I've circled them before and sent
Speaker 3: it to people and they were like, what, I don't
Speaker 3: see it, And I'm like, oh, well, you know, I
Speaker 3: can't convince everybody. And here's the thing is, I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm here to convince anybody anything. I say this, go
Speaker 3: out in the woods and get your experience yourself. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's what I say. You know, if you don't believe me,
Speaker 3: then go out and woods and you do what I did,
Speaker 3: and you put all this to the tests. And so
Speaker 3: that's one of the things I would do, was I
Speaker 3: would in the beginning, after all this happened, I would
Speaker 3: buy books and I would read what these people say,
Speaker 3: what worked for them. I would go out in the
Speaker 3: woods and would I would do the same thing. And
Speaker 3: so I would roll play. In other words, I say, okay,
Speaker 3: this's worked for this guy, let me see it works
Speaker 3: for me. So this one guy, his name was doctor
Speaker 3: Matthew Johnson Raven. You ever heard of him?
Speaker 4: M m no, I'm terrible with names. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: Everybody always tells me names.
Speaker 1: I'm like yep.
Speaker 3: So doctor Matthew Johnson is originally from Oregon and he
Speaker 3: now lives in Washington, and he is a psychiatrist, and
Speaker 3: so he's had some experiences up there with him and
Speaker 3: so I got his books and I started reading some
Speaker 3: of his books, and one of the things he says
Speaker 3: is there's actually two different types, okay, And he said,
Speaker 3: they're the good ones and the bad ones. So the
Speaker 3: good ones are supposed to be the ones that are
Speaker 3: very spiritual, those are the ones who came from other
Speaker 3: planets through portals, and those are the ones that communicate
Speaker 3: with you mostly the good ones. And he said the
Speaker 3: bad ones. And oh, those that name is called the Jeanue.
Speaker 3: Those are called Jeane and.
Speaker 2: So the before yeah, I do see the footprint, which
Speaker 2: put us back on full scream mode real quick. So
Speaker 2: we have heard the term john Knu before, and we've
Speaker 2: had some guests on recently that are of the Pacific
Speaker 2: Northwestern Native American tribes, and they have their own backstories
Speaker 2: for these creatures. Half of them believe that they are
Speaker 2: evil entities, half unbelieved that they're just kind of forest spirits.
Speaker 2: And they're not positive nor negative. They're just kind of there.
Speaker 2: You know, it depends on the tribe.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I got you keep talking for a secon because
Speaker 3: I'm going to send you another picture, all right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my best to pull it up when
Speaker 2: I send it to me.
Speaker 4: Well, I've heard of so obviously from where I'm around,
Speaker 4: we've bigfoot is a common talk kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's more like a joke.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of us just kind of like
Speaker 4: wear bigfoot stuff, and we have a lot of bigfoot,
Speaker 4: you know. I have a lot of bigfoot actually on
Speaker 4: my laptop. I have, you know, stickers and things like that.
Speaker 4: But I have heard about negative ones and positive ones,
Speaker 4: and there's a difference. I mean, I've heard through different
Speaker 4: communities that I've been around, where they've experienced different types
Speaker 4: of entities, which I guess could be attributed to a
Speaker 4: type of bigfoot. A lot of it comes down to
Speaker 4: energy and intent and like what it feels like when
Speaker 4: you're around these particular beings.
Speaker 2: Not what I have my own opinion about. Intention right,
Speaker 2: no energy and you know, I'm sorry, chlorine probably has
Speaker 2: a really pretty color, doesn't mean that like it gives
Speaker 2: off positive vibes. You shouldn't like go into the shit.
Speaker 4: But okay, so have you never been have you ever
Speaker 4: been around a person that you can literally feel the
Speaker 4: evil off of them?
Speaker 2: I got two x ys. Where are we going with this?
Speaker 1: That's not even the same time.
Speaker 2: Sure are you sure? Are you? Are you sure?
Speaker 4: I've met both of them, so I could very well
Speaker 4: say that they're being shit.
Speaker 2: But like you're making rare not but.
Speaker 1: No, they're they're not.
Speaker 3: But so the pictures essentially, Jacob say though.
Speaker 4: That there is people that you meet that are definitely
Speaker 4: evil intent, like you can feel them literally just oozing evil.
Speaker 2: Again, I feel like that's ex wife number one, possibly
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Speaker 2: let's talk about some of these images we have that
Speaker 2: Scott has sent us. Why is that not opening? What
Speaker 2: is air? We go, okay, what is this that you
Speaker 2: sent me? Scott?
Speaker 3: Okay? So the thing of it is is that that's inside
Speaker 3: of our house. I know probably should be given away
Speaker 3: personal equipment, I mean, personal information, but.
Speaker 2: Already see it? Where what? Okay, I ain't see nothing.
Speaker 1: Let him, let him say, and then we'll go okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So the three lights are pointing at my wife, and
Speaker 3: she took the picture right there, and there's no way
Speaker 3: I could get up there and without a ladder because
Speaker 3: I'm short for one thing, and take those three lights
Speaker 3: in point toward me right so as you can tell
Speaker 3: her out there, and and I'd gone to work. I
Speaker 3: hadn't moved those lights at all. And so if you
Speaker 3: look right where your cursor is right there, so your
Speaker 3: curse it right there. Right, there's there's one thing right there.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. And then if you
Speaker 3: come down, yeah, it's kind of like like almost like
Speaker 3: a face looking down. Okay, that's one thing. And then
Speaker 3: if you come down where the refrigerators are, there are
Speaker 3: two orbs right there on the refrigerator. See the two
Speaker 3: orbs right there?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: So I told my wife. I said, no, that's a
Speaker 3: reflection off of the lights. She said, they just moved again.
Speaker 3: I said, oh, okay, whoa Okay. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: they said they're moving around. I said, oh okay, So
Speaker 3: I said, touche, you got me. Wow. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I was trying to discredit everything she said.
Speaker 3: She's like, no, I'm telling you there's something there.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, okay, all right, so now let's cut.
Speaker 3: So here we go here, all right, let's uh, I
Speaker 3: sent you another one to go to the other one. Well,
Speaker 3: that's one. You see you see the circle? Yeah, you
Speaker 3: see the face inside the circle?
Speaker 2: I do right here, the eyes, the nose, the mouth.
Speaker 3: Looks like Eddie the monster right on the monsters. Yeah no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, no, Yeah there you go. So isn't that's crazy.
Speaker 3: There's a lot more in that picture that could go over,
Speaker 3: but it's hard to see. But I'll just I'll just
Speaker 3: leave you with that one. So talking about the jeen
Speaker 3: Neue when I excuse me, this is weird. Every time
Speaker 3: I get to talk about this something, I get choked up. Anyways,
Speaker 3: I started uh talking to him and I said, look,
Speaker 3: if you're really the jeen new then give me a sign.
Speaker 3: And they this, this is what happened. This came up
Speaker 3: and that's got that face right there. But there's also
Speaker 3: another face that's right there next to it. If you
Speaker 3: go look at the other picture that's like that but
Speaker 3: has a bigger circle. Look at your other pictures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll send you.
Speaker 3: An hould that one up and it's actually a face
Speaker 3: within a face.
Speaker 2: Where to go? Hold on, now, this ain't the one? Huh?
Speaker 2: Is this the one? Yep?
Speaker 3: That's it. Look at that face. So if you go
Speaker 3: look at it, the the little small faces in there,
Speaker 3: but if you look, there's a mouth at the bottom
Speaker 3: down here, and then there's a nose and then there's
Speaker 3: an eye. His eyes are actually like closed.
Speaker 2: Okay things than I am. What are you seeing here?
Speaker 3: There's one big face right there. So if you look
Speaker 3: at look at the whole thing as a face and
Speaker 3: look at it as a high brow the whole. The brow,
Speaker 3: there's a big brow. Okay, take your take your pointer
Speaker 3: and move around a little bit, and I'll tell you
Speaker 3: what it is. Right, there's a mouth that's a.
Speaker 2: Nose, Okay, you know, go down nose mouth, Yes, correct,
Speaker 2: you got it.
Speaker 3: And then a little face is like next to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3: And that is what you call the jeannu.
Speaker 2: So they got many faces at the same time.
Speaker 3: How they do this, I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't know. I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker 3: I mean, and that's what they do. But it's a silhouette.
Speaker 3: And that's what I see in the woods at times.
Speaker 3: I see those things like that. So whenever I feel something,
Speaker 3: I take a picture and that's what I get. I
Speaker 3: get different things like that. But that is that is
Speaker 3: when I said, are you the jean u. That's the
Speaker 3: faces that came up and it lit up the whole
Speaker 3: the whole area was lit up with that. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's not the only one. There was more than that
Speaker 3: in there, but that like there's a small face and
Speaker 3: then a big face, you know, and that face was huge.
Speaker 3: That face was probably cheese, I don't know, probably fifteen
Speaker 3: feet something like that.
Speaker 1: It's huge.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so are we to believe that the
Speaker 2: genus have fifteen foot skulls or is it that they
Speaker 2: give us the image of themselves to that size?
Speaker 3: To answer truthfully, I think that's what they're projecting, what
Speaker 3: they look like. Okay, So if you have a big,
Speaker 3: huge projection screen and you want to, you know, blow
Speaker 3: up your face or whatever you like. You look at
Speaker 3: a movie. Sometimes you see a close up of people.
Speaker 3: You know, that's what you'll see. What are the pictures
Speaker 3: did you have that I sent you?
Speaker 2: You sent me a bunch. But I'm trying because every
Speaker 2: time I bounce back and forth out to stop and
Speaker 2: pause and restart my audio. So I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: as much as I can here without screwing up my
Speaker 2: audio too much. But okay, so you have been collecting
Speaker 2: these images. You've seen this with their own eyes in
Speaker 2: the woods for years and years now, and from what
Speaker 2: I have been seeing, you have been making your rounds
Speaker 2: on content bro. You have been going on multiple podcast
Speaker 2: multiple YouTube channels. You're seen as a I don't want
Speaker 2: to use the term subject matter expert, but at the
Speaker 2: same time, a lot of people view you as a
Speaker 2: subject matter expert on the Three Folk, the Bigfoot, the Sasquatch,
Speaker 2: the dog men, the interdimensional, the angelic, all these things.
Speaker 2: So I'm very curious. Raven Lee and I had a
Speaker 2: guest come on the show a couple months ago. He
Speaker 2: is somebody who is of a native tribe of the
Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest. He was saying that these entities are over
Speaker 2: and above. They're evil, they are demonic, they are out
Speaker 2: to destroy mankind. The smell that you get that is
Speaker 2: like a defense mechanism for them. They they have been
Speaker 2: here longer than human beings, and they see human beings
Speaker 2: as a detriment to their survival. So they inherently have
Speaker 2: negative feeling feelings towards them. Native American culture in that
Speaker 2: area points them out as being a monster that needs
Speaker 2: to be hunted. Now, we have heard many many people
Speaker 2: have different stories and backgrounds to these creatures, some negative,
Speaker 2: some positive, some neutrial neutral. Honestly, some people are pretty
Speaker 2: much like, yeah, it's like seeing a deer in the
Speaker 2: woods or dear evil or are they good? They're they're deer,
Speaker 2: They're during deer shit. So for the people out there
Speaker 2: that believe that these entities aren't evil.
Speaker 3: Your teaks are my take. Okay, I don't they're evil,
Speaker 3: That's just my take. The reason why them give you
Speaker 3: another experience. So I was sitting in my deer stand.
Speaker 3: That's when I seen the female. And I was sitting
Speaker 3: in this leaning tube, and all of a sudden, just
Speaker 3: female just appears out of nowhere. Okay, wasn't there all
Speaker 3: of a sudden millisects boom, She's there because I just looked
Speaker 3: there and she was there. And so I had my
Speaker 3: rifle sitting across this leaning to and when she looked
Speaker 3: at me, she said, you have a gun. I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got a gun. And she was talking to me
Speaker 3: telepathy again, and I said, yeah, I got a gun,
Speaker 3: but I said I'm not going to point it at you.
Speaker 3: And I said I'm not gonna hurt hurt you or
Speaker 3: your family, so in return, don't hurt me and my family.
Speaker 3: And so all of a sudden, as soon as I
Speaker 3: said that, a bunch of little ones appeared, and then
Speaker 3: there was another one in the tree. Okay, as soon
Speaker 3: as as soon as I said that, that happened, and
Speaker 3: I began to look at her and I started laughing. Okay,
Speaker 3: the reason why I was laughing because she said, why
Speaker 3: are you laughing at me through telepathy again? And I said, well,
Speaker 3: it's not every day that you see a sasquatch buck
Speaker 3: ass naked in the woods. I found it amusing, you know,
Speaker 3: she said, when she kind of got smart one me,
Speaker 3: she said, well, think of it like this. She said,
Speaker 3: had you humans not send in the Garden of Eden,
Speaker 3: you'd be naked too. I just said, whoa touche? I said,
Speaker 3: you got me. I said, I know what to do.
Speaker 3: I was like, and I'm thinking to myself, Wow, So
Speaker 3: here's the thing. Do they know people? Yeah, they've been
Speaker 3: here a very long time. I agree with that. Yes,
Speaker 3: they've been here. Are they out to get us? I
Speaker 3: would say, like I said before, there's two different types
Speaker 3: of bigfoots. And that's where I was going with a
Speaker 3: lot of other stuff before, with the features and everything.
Speaker 3: There's one called the a jean u, and there's nothing
Speaker 3: called a traycon. Now was that American Indian fellow? Was
Speaker 3: he dealing with a traycon? Probably? So the tray con
Speaker 3: will kill you, They will eat you. Okay, those are
Speaker 3: the bad ones. Now, how do you tell a difference?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna walk up to one and say, hey,
Speaker 3: you're good or bad? But they look similar, uh the
Speaker 3: other ones I know of the traycon how thangs, So
Speaker 3: there are meat eaters of carnivores, you know, and so
Speaker 3: and then they actually from what I hear, they I've
Speaker 3: never seen this before, but I've heard stories that they
Speaker 3: actually fight. The two fight with each other. But my
Speaker 3: thing is that people say they want to kill them.
Speaker 3: Can you kill a sasquatch? I would say, there's a
Speaker 3: type of sasquatch. Like I said, we all look different
Speaker 3: as people can the races, they look different too. I
Speaker 3: would say, yes, probably that form. They probably could kill it.
Speaker 3: I say, yes you can. Should you kill it? I
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean that's I don't go around point
Speaker 3: my gun at them and shooting at them. I don't
Speaker 3: have reason to, right, and they haven't attacked me. So
Speaker 3: another thing is that if they are spiritual, which I
Speaker 3: know they are, I've heard this story too that people
Speaker 3: have actually shot at them and they just walk off,
Speaker 3: no blood, know nothing. So I mean the physical ones,
Speaker 3: can you kill them? I'm sure you could. You probably
Speaker 3: could shoot those. But here's like I said before, how
Speaker 3: did they get here? And very begin I ask y'all,
Speaker 3: how do they get here? How did all this stuff
Speaker 3: get here? I think they were brought here through two things.
Speaker 3: Number One, aliens brought them here some type of craft.
Speaker 3: Number two is I think they came through portals from
Speaker 3: another place, which goes to say that we're not here
Speaker 3: all alone, okay. And the other thing is is that
Speaker 3: the physical ones, a lot of those were brought here
Speaker 3: along time ago, a long time ago, to do labor
Speaker 3: work over here because they're so big and or so strong,
Speaker 3: and then when the aliens got finished with them, they
Speaker 3: didn't have no use for them, so they just left
Speaker 3: them here.
Speaker 2: So I've heard multiple different Native American tribes and Australian tribes,
Speaker 2: and all of them say that it's not that they
Speaker 2: got here, they've always been here. Again, to use the
Speaker 2: analogy of the deer. Yeah, they may have evolved from
Speaker 2: a prehistoric version of a deer or some type of
Speaker 2: bovine creature or whatever the case is, but they've always
Speaker 2: been here. I've heard some people say that the sam Squanche,
Speaker 2: the whatever, they have been here since the beginning, and
Speaker 2: multiple Native tribes who were more attuned to the land
Speaker 2: and tuned to the woods and their surroundings acknowledged them,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't. It's not like they worshiped them like
Speaker 2: some sort of a deity. It's not like they were
Speaker 2: afraid of them, like they were some sort of a
Speaker 2: monster in the woods. They saw them as just another
Speaker 2: creature that's living in the same area of operation that
Speaker 2: they are. But I'm not dismissing what you're saying as
Speaker 2: far as I'm being brought here from a craft or
Speaker 2: through interdimensional means, or whatever the case. I mean. At
Speaker 2: this point, it's all speculation, So I get this. So
Speaker 2: do you believe that it's possible that in the same
Speaker 2: way there's different races of human beings and we're all humans.
Speaker 2: We are all Homo sapien sapiens, whether you come from
Speaker 2: sub Saharan Africa, whether you come from the Nordic countries,
Speaker 2: whether you come from Southeast Asia, we are all Homo
Speaker 2: sapien sapiens. But there are some distinct genetic differences between
Speaker 2: us that would be what we would classify as racial differences.
Speaker 2: There is a conversation to be had to say that
Speaker 2: potentially the Yeti and the Sasquatch are same being or
Speaker 2: same genus and phylum for lack of better words, but
Speaker 2: a different race of that. One is more of a
Speaker 2: mountainous you know, Paul Himalayan's version of it, and these
Speaker 2: other ones are more of the rockies. And then in
Speaker 2: Louisiana and the Bits, we probably have a whole different
Speaker 2: racial subgroup, but of the same genus and phylum of
Speaker 2: animal kingdom species.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they're all different. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 3: I've seen twenty foot tall ones. There's records of some
Speaker 3: of them being small, like three foot tall. We talked
Speaker 3: about that. You've also got the spiritual ones that are
Speaker 3: able to demateialize, and you got the physical ones. It
Speaker 3: would be like each one of us have in other words,
Speaker 3: for lack of terms and gifts, we all have different
Speaker 3: things we can do, Okay, Me and Raven all have
Speaker 3: different things that we can do. Some of those have
Speaker 3: gifts that they have things that they can do, and
Speaker 3: some of them don't have it. You know, Some are
Speaker 3: able to go through portal, some can't go through portal.
Speaker 3: Some are just physical. They're just here and they just
Speaker 3: eat everything. They're the bad ones. But as far as
Speaker 3: different looks, yeah, they got all kinds of different ones
Speaker 3: out there. You know, I've heard of other ones that
Speaker 3: up into montanas in uh in the lower Canadian regions
Speaker 3: that those are eighteen footers walk around all the time. Cool.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and so that's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: So those those things are huge, and who's to say
Speaker 3: you see them? You can't see them, you know. I
Speaker 3: mean if they stand beside a tree or able to cloak,
Speaker 3: you know, go invisible, then you can't see them. It
Speaker 3: just looks like it looks like the predator. You've seen
Speaker 3: the Predator before? Oh, yes, okay, so it looks like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so it's the same thing here that people can't
Speaker 3: see them. They able to blend in so well and
Speaker 3: able to go into another dimension which we can't see
Speaker 3: with our eyes. Now, the physical ones that don't have
Speaker 3: that ability, yeah, you could probably shoot those. You know.
Speaker 4: Do you think that's why we don't have any bodies
Speaker 4: of them?
Speaker 3: How do you know we don't have anybodies?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean we the official narrative, the official narrative
Speaker 4: quote quote, you know, but so many people have gone
Speaker 4: hunting and looking for these beings for so long that
Speaker 4: you would think at least one person would somemble upon
Speaker 4: a body or obtain some kind of body when it
Speaker 4: comes to them, at least without the government seeing it.
Speaker 3: Well, now you talk about the government, it's a whole
Speaker 3: different ballgame here, you know what I mean. So who's
Speaker 3: to say that we don't have a body. Who's to
Speaker 3: say the government doesn't have a body?
Speaker 4: Something?
Speaker 1: They sure do.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about normal civilians that I mean, so many
Speaker 4: people will have gone hunting for them. Yeah, I was
Speaker 4: assumed by now we would have at least someone found something.
Speaker 3: So normally what happens is when you do have one,
Speaker 3: or somebody does kill one, what happens the government agency
Speaker 3: comes in real quick and it covered all up. That's
Speaker 3: just the way it works. I mean, I said, we
Speaker 3: all know.
Speaker 1: That probably I've sort some kind of treaty with them.
Speaker 4: I mean, if they've been here longer than we have,
Speaker 4: they would have to have some kind of you know,
Speaker 4: diplomatic situation with people if they're coexisting and cohabiting with us,
Speaker 4: like at some point.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing about National Forest. If you look
Speaker 3: at the National Forest kind of makes you wonder if
Speaker 3: you go how deep you think or how you go
Speaker 3: with this. They're set aside. Right, Yes, there I've seen. Correct,
Speaker 3: there are more sightings in national forests of Bigfoot and
Speaker 3: dog Man than the oral public places. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 3: a given. It don't matter if it's a smoky mountains
Speaker 3: or it's a rocky mountains, or if it's anywhere national forest,
Speaker 3: they're there. They're always there, and that's where they live at,
Speaker 3: you know. And so there to go back to say,
Speaker 3: why do we don't have a body? I mean, who's
Speaker 3: to say that they're that their own their own can,
Speaker 3: doesn't go ahead and hide their bodies? You know, what's
Speaker 3: their die? And if you look at rock mounds, I
Speaker 3: mean when you bear a person, it's usually a two
Speaker 3: by six or something like that, you know plot that
Speaker 3: they have. But then you go take a sasquatch. How
Speaker 3: do you how do you cover up a twenty foot body?
Speaker 3: So you're not gonna look for a small mound, You're
Speaker 3: gonna look for a huge mound. Correct, that's pretty right, correct.
Speaker 2: Which so leads to the conversation about giants, right and so,
Speaker 2: and this is not my personal take. We have had
Speaker 2: multiple guests come on to say that these are nephilim,
Speaker 2: these are half demonic spawn. This is Goliath in the Bible.
Speaker 2: How do we know he wasn't a sasquatch And they
Speaker 2: just described him in the best way that they could.
Speaker 2: And we have the story of the Giant of Kandahar
Speaker 2: right where these special operations guys they ended up killing
Speaker 2: a redheaded giant that was living in the mountains of
Speaker 2: a Afghanistan. And even to this day, the locals of
Speaker 2: Afghanistan will tell you, oh, no, no, that region of
Speaker 2: the mountains they have giants that live there and that's
Speaker 2: just what they do. Now there are those that believe
Speaker 2: that the Bigfoot are some sort of a cousin subspecies
Speaker 2: to these Nephylimic Anochian giants that may or may not
Speaker 2: still be living amongst us these days.
Speaker 4: I mean, that'd be really hard for these like these
Speaker 4: creatures at this day and age, Like, let's be honest,
Speaker 4: like you know, seventeen hundreds, sure, cool it.
Speaker 1: We can hide all this stuff we're talking about.
Speaker 4: We have trail cams, have satellites, we have drones, we
Speaker 4: have phones, we have all of this stuff that is
Speaker 4: continuously capturing video film and all of these things on
Speaker 4: different levels than what we can actually perceive ourselves. And
Speaker 4: I was able to pick up spiritual things and you know,
Speaker 4: different types of entities and stuff. So for them to
Speaker 4: be able to escape so many people very interesting in
Speaker 4: and of itself when you think about their technology versus
Speaker 4: our technology, because if they've still been able to out
Speaker 4: maneuver us at our own game, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, what's really neat is how many times you get
Speaker 3: them on trail cam and how many times you don't.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think how many pictures I have
Speaker 3: of them on trail cam that's really good pictures, And
Speaker 3: I would say that's the original picture. I have one
Speaker 3: for sure that Otherwise it's it's all iPhones and you
Speaker 3: know everything else that they take pictures of, you know,
Speaker 3: people taking over there with their iPhones and stuff. But
Speaker 3: I have one that is a old picture which is
Speaker 3: red taken with a red type film, and I have
Speaker 3: one of a mother with one on a baby on
Speaker 3: the back walking away, and that's that's the only one
Speaker 3: that I have. Now. Other people have said they caught
Speaker 3: them on there before, which is pretty hard to do
Speaker 3: because they can see all that they see whatever comes
Speaker 3: out of it, whether it's a light or a laser
Speaker 3: or something that comes out of that picks up on
Speaker 3: something in motion and everything else. They can see all
Speaker 3: that stuff. And I don't know of anyone that's ever
Speaker 3: caught one on that. It's just being honest about it,
Speaker 3: you know. But I do have one. It's an older
Speaker 3: trail cam and it was in red, and I do
Speaker 3: have a picture of that. And what's really strange is
Speaker 3: it's a mother walking away, the baby's on the back,
Speaker 3: and it's an orb coming out of it.
Speaker 4: What do you mean coming out of it, like the
Speaker 4: body itself or where the baby is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a light coming out of the mother's basically
Speaker 3: come out of the mother's belly. It's like a it's
Speaker 3: like a light coming out of.
Speaker 4: It the perspective of the camera, So you couldn't actually
Speaker 4: obtain full Sure.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing is, I can send a picture
Speaker 3: to you. You can look at it, y'all can talk
Speaker 3: about it, but you cannot use this picture because it's
Speaker 3: not my picture. You follow what I'm saying, I feel you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't do that. I don't take somebody else's pictures
Speaker 3: and I don't. I don't do that because in the
Speaker 3: community that we're in, if you're in the Bigfoot community.
Speaker 3: That's a big, huge no. No, don't use somebody else's picture,
Speaker 3: and you don't try to make yourself look good from that.
Speaker 3: In other words, sure, and so that's one thing that
Speaker 3: we have respect the people who do this all the time.
Speaker 3: We have respect for each other. That's my picture, that's
Speaker 3: your picture, and you don't use it unless somebody else
Speaker 3: says you can use it.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 3: And so now we do share pictures with each other,
Speaker 3: we share videos with each other, and that's like saying, ay,
Speaker 3: but you can't put it out in public because it's
Speaker 3: it's mine, you know. So that's another thing that we do.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, if you think from different perspectives
Speaker 3: of who they are, what they are, what they can
Speaker 3: do in the Netflie going back to Neflin, All right,
Speaker 3: let's go back. Let's take a biblical perspective. Sure, let's
Speaker 3: go there. You're ready, Okay, let's go U. This guy
Speaker 3: what was his name, Esau? Yeah, everything in the Bible
Speaker 3: that I've read, this was a hairy guy. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and did you know that he was the one that
Speaker 3: killed Nimrod? Okay, so how did he kill Nimrod? So
Speaker 3: the way Nimrod was able to go around, build a
Speaker 3: tire babble and go around and kill all these people.
Speaker 3: He was a king. The only way he could do
Speaker 3: it was supposedly he gathered the garments Aboutam and Eve,
Speaker 3: and because they were the original humans, there was like
Speaker 3: an annoying or some kind of special power that was
Speaker 3: on those garments when they died. So he took those garments,
Speaker 3: and actually Noah had them, and he stole them from Noah.
Speaker 3: And so when he put them on himself and he
Speaker 3: put him up in his armor and nobody could beat him. Right,
Speaker 3: But here comes Esault. Esau was basically a Sasquatch, okay,
Speaker 3: and I'll say that because he was so hairy and
Speaker 3: everything you go. He had red hair. He had red
Speaker 3: hair like the red haired giants. Okay, so he was
Speaker 3: like that too. It was a harry guy. So he
Speaker 3: was able to go out in the field in the
Speaker 3: cool of the day and Nimrod and his captain were
Speaker 3: talking and he sneaks up on him, he cuts his
Speaker 3: head off and kills him. Now, how's he able to
Speaker 3: do that unless he's able to cloak. So here's a
Speaker 3: lot of things that people, you know, the Bible tells
Speaker 3: us a lot. I'm a Christian. I read through it
Speaker 3: and I say, Okay, something's left out here. Where's it at?
Speaker 3: And where's the rest of it. It's more than just
Speaker 3: being a good person. It's more than believe in Jesus
Speaker 3: Christ is my Lord and savor. It's more than I'm
Speaker 3: going to go to heaven. I want to know the
Speaker 3: rest of the story. And that's where I dig into.
Speaker 3: You do the same thing. So, I mean you and
Speaker 3: I know this. We book go to church. And so
Speaker 3: the thing of it is that I get these other
Speaker 3: books and I'll start reading them, and I want to
Speaker 3: know the rest of the story. Like Paul Harvey, I
Speaker 3: want to know the rest of the story. I want
Speaker 3: to find out more. Okay, how was Esau, this Harry
Speaker 3: guy able to sneak up on this guy and kill him?
Speaker 3: And he had these garments on it? So from all
Speaker 3: everything I've ever read, here's another thing for you. The
Speaker 3: land of Canaan. Okay, have you ever thought about it
Speaker 3: like this? The land of Canine, Not Canaan but ca nine. Right,
Speaker 3: So they had these dog men were there even in
Speaker 3: the old days. You look at all these maps and
Speaker 3: everything with dog man on it, right, so then when
Speaker 3: all of the angels, for you know, the ones that
Speaker 3: came down, that had sex with other women everything, when
Speaker 3: they came down, they were a man hermon, which is
Speaker 3: northern Canaan Canine. So they call this the land of Canine,
Speaker 3: the land of Canaan. Okay, but if you pronounce it,
Speaker 3: it's Canine. It's the land of dog men. Do you
Speaker 3: ever think about that?
Speaker 2: I actually have never thought about it that way, But okay,
Speaker 2: I'm listening.
Speaker 3: Go look and now that you look at it, you
Speaker 3: look at it. You'll go look in your Bible and
Speaker 3: you go look in the back of the maps and
Speaker 3: the old maps, that this land of Canaan cane nine.
Speaker 3: But what if it's Canine instead of Canaan. And so
Speaker 3: Abraham was able to go and defeat all these people
Speaker 3: or whatever was in there. He defeated them, okay. And
Speaker 3: then later on when the when the Israelites came back,
Speaker 3: they were able to defeat the giants in the land.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now there, what if there were what if there were
Speaker 3: other things in there besides the giants? What if there
Speaker 3: are other things, you know, other entities and other creatures
Speaker 3: in there beside that.
Speaker 2: Which is also possibly why God told them to slay everything,
Speaker 2: even the animals at a certain point in the Bible.
Speaker 2: I'm with you now, there's some things.
Speaker 3: There's some things left out in there, you know, some
Speaker 3: things left out now.
Speaker 2: With the story with Esau and Nimrod. So it depends
Speaker 2: on the literature you read, right, So the Hebrew tradition
Speaker 2: says that Nimrod died from an insect that flew into
Speaker 2: his nose and started eating at his brain for seven years.
Speaker 2: Then other traditions will say that Esau absolutely is the
Speaker 2: one that killed Nimrod. And I'm not really trying to
Speaker 2: pinch hairs one way or another as far as which
Speaker 2: one I believe in. I'm with you here. I hear
Speaker 2: both when you're talking about the priestly garments that was
Speaker 2: being worn at this time. Also, so have you talked
Speaker 2: to Doc Brown?
Speaker 3: Nope, don't know Doc Brown.
Speaker 2: He is. He is a homie of the show. I'll
Speaker 2: put you in contact with him. He actually wrote a
Speaker 2: book on the line of Esau, and he believes very
Speaker 2: similar to what you're talking about here. The descendants of
Speaker 2: Esau who became the I'm trying to remember the name
Speaker 2: of the tribe, the ones that are the blood liquors
Speaker 2: the Amalekites, if I'm not mistaken, And how all these
Speaker 2: were of Nephelum blood through the line of Esau because
Speaker 2: he was a hairy beast of a man of what
Speaker 2: we might potentially call Nephylimic blood, and all these things.
Speaker 2: I think, first of all, I think you'd be a
Speaker 2: great guest to have on his show. Also, I'll definitely
Speaker 2: connect you.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, I got some theories on that, and a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't like my theories. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: understand that. I still talk to them, okay, and I
Speaker 3: I throw things at them too, and sometimes I just
Speaker 3: get things in my head like where did that come from?
Speaker 2: So, but you're believe that the Sasquads are not the
Speaker 2: demonic spawn of the Nephilum, correct.
Speaker 3: No, I believe they're the watchers up today. So when
Speaker 3: I say they're watchers, I believe they can cloak and
Speaker 3: they and watch you from you know, sometimes they help you,
Speaker 3: sometimes they don't. You know. I believe they're they're now
Speaker 3: going back to the Indian American Indian their thought and
Speaker 3: perspective on it. There are different entities out there. It's
Speaker 3: not just one entity that it says, Okay, these are
Speaker 3: the good ones and these are bad ones. There's two.
Speaker 3: There's different types out there, Okay, So I'm sure there
Speaker 3: are some bad ones out there. I've never run across.
Speaker 3: If I do, then you'll have your body because I'm
Speaker 3: gonna shoot it. You follow me. I'm gonna put thirty
Speaker 3: all six into as many as I got, and I
Speaker 3: usually carry around forty rounds women when I hunt. Damn,
Speaker 3: it's not because it's not because of that. It's because
Speaker 3: of what I've seen in the woods. And I'm ready
Speaker 3: for it. Yea. I am very well protected now, you know.
Speaker 3: And even after that, I went and bought a gun.
Speaker 3: You'll love this. I bought a gun. It's thirty all
Speaker 3: six on an AR frame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3: And so I have that now too in my arsenal.
Speaker 2: What is the kick on that leg? Because my thirty
Speaker 2: all six that I have as a bolt action, and
Speaker 2: I mean the kick on that thing, I mean it's substantial.
Speaker 2: It's a thirty all six is not for the uh,
Speaker 2: it's saying for a beginner. By any means, an AR
Speaker 2: platform is substantially lighter than what I hunt with. So
Speaker 2: what is the kick on that?
Speaker 3: Like? So what what what's the biggest guns that y'all
Speaker 3: were able to shoot in the military, both of y'all
Speaker 3: fifteen four four, is it?
Speaker 2: I said, the two forty or I mean, well, y'all
Speaker 2: aside from aside from like Rocke, we're talking about like
Speaker 2: rifles here. I never got to shoot a fifty, so
Speaker 2: probably a two forty, which is a it's like a
Speaker 2: three eight.
Speaker 1: Correct, That's what I was thin to say, rounds I
Speaker 1: didn't get to deal. Yeah, So basically yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, heck yeah, that's fine, man, That's what
Speaker 3: I'm talking fun playing. So I basically have all those weapons,
Speaker 3: like I have a seven six two bout thirty nine
Speaker 3: or three O eight have the same thing. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: just a little bit more kicked that, okay, And when
Speaker 3: you do shoot it, it's it's loud, it's got a
Speaker 3: little bank to it, it's got bank to the buck.
Speaker 3: Oh but sure, Yeah, it's just a little bit more
Speaker 3: than three O eights what it is, you know? Okay,
Speaker 3: and then depending depending upon the size lad you're shooting
Speaker 3: down range? You know, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: A fish shotguns by the way, what.
Speaker 4: It's what I'm hung Well, I mean, I guess maybe
Speaker 4: depends on how you hold them. But like I've held
Speaker 4: the couple that I've shot, and I'm gonna gonna lie.
Speaker 4: The cake back in my shoulder just was like that
Speaker 4: fucking hurt. Like there's so many other guns rather shoot
Speaker 4: than this, because just because of the way it like
Speaker 4: hit my shoulder, I was like, this is really not
Speaker 4: like my favorite.
Speaker 2: But it depends on the gun you're shooting, like, for instance,
Speaker 2: twelve gauge. Not all twelve gauges are created equal, right,
Speaker 2: So like the heavier the gun, the.
Speaker 4: Way shot a handful of them, and the ones that
Speaker 4: like I will say that my friends that are like
Speaker 4: avid hunters back in the day, they had some really
Speaker 4: cool guns, and look, I'm not super nerdy on guns,
Speaker 4: so don't ask any specifics on them, but they I
Speaker 4: shot some that were a lot smoother than others. But
Speaker 4: I will say that that the cakebacks were, oh they're
Speaker 4: one they're really heavy, and so just they're they're really heavy,
Speaker 4: and that were actually better for my shoulder.
Speaker 1: And the ones that weren't as heavy. Man, that cakeback
Speaker 1: was like, damn that hurt, Like I'm gonna feel this
Speaker 1: for days.
Speaker 2: The worst kick I ever shot. My favorite as of
Speaker 2: this time anyway, is a youth model gauge shotgun. Now
Speaker 2: twenty gauge is not the largest of the shotgun calibers
Speaker 2: mind stretch of the imagination. But this youth model crack
Speaker 2: barrel single shot shotgun, it weighs like I'm being generous
Speaker 2: by saying three pounds. And when, especially if you're a
Speaker 2: nine year old, there's a young strapping lad out there
Speaker 2: and you shoot this thing, it's gonna kick you like
Speaker 2: a mule. My twelve gage that I use now kicks
Speaker 2: less than that youth model. And I've actually when when
Speaker 2: I brought my son squirrel hunting last year, he shot
Speaker 2: both of them, and he even agreed that, like, why
Speaker 2: is this one that is weighs smaller, kicking way more.
Speaker 1: Than this one that's like a shotgun?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Used bird shot? All right? What do you think
Speaker 2: you shoot squirrels with?
Speaker 1: To be fair, I'm not an avid hunter.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean you could use twenty two.
Speaker 4: So many people have taken me hunting. I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm I am not
Speaker 4: one with the hunting game. I enjoy some, like dear Jerky,
Speaker 4: I just don't enjoy particularly killing Bambi or things.
Speaker 2: That bamby is delicious. I've been.
Speaker 4: I've been on quite a few hunts and people are like,
Speaker 4: there's it, and I'm like, I just.
Speaker 3: You know what about hogs, I'm only one those are fair.
Speaker 4: I have ended up in a situation one and only time,
Speaker 4: and I will say that I ran for my dear
Speaker 4: and ever loving life because it was a situation that
Speaker 4: turned into a whole thing.
Speaker 2: What the hell, I'm not kidding and ran from a hog.
Speaker 1: Look, there was a whole situation. Okay, it was. It's
Speaker 1: a long story.
Speaker 2: I'm not making fun of you. Wait where because I
Speaker 2: mean no hogs will they'll mess you up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they're on history.
Speaker 3: They' That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like I didn't know a whole different story, knew
Speaker 1: the sound, and I was like, this is not a
Speaker 1: good situation.
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at my my ex and I'm like,
Speaker 4: is this what I think it is?
Speaker 1: Like it was a whole thing of like run. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're a fast runner.
Speaker 4: I I am like, I'm like one of those like
Speaker 4: sacrificial like people that die.
Speaker 1: And it was we're just.
Speaker 2: Scared the boar so he could kill it.
Speaker 1: There was a whole thing. Look, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: first off, I don't like hog.
Speaker 2: Meat because meat is delicious.
Speaker 1: Well, the hog meat that we got was not very good.
Speaker 2: It can it depends on how you.
Speaker 1: Second off, I have ended up with it.
Speaker 4: There's actually been three situations with hogs that I've ended
Speaker 4: up in with in North Carolina and various places, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, me and hogs are just not
Speaker 4: a vibe. I will think this, that's.
Speaker 1: Kind of like the whole situation. And I had to
Speaker 1: end up with a shark in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you did a what with what? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, so sharks. So we went.
Speaker 4: So my ex was is an avid fisher person fisherman.
Speaker 2: Okay, and wet in the mountain.
Speaker 4: Somebody hold on there we were out so we're uh,
Speaker 4: probably we're out No by Campbell's Union and there's a
Speaker 4: place where you can go out and you can go
Speaker 4: into the ocean all this stuff, and we're kayaking and
Speaker 4: I am terrified of water. I will say this, I
Speaker 4: am a great swimmer.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: Situations when you're married, it's it's a whole thing.
Speaker 4: So there I was and I was like, I know,
Speaker 4: for a fact, I watched Shark Week avidly because I'm
Speaker 4: terrified of sharks.
Speaker 1: And I see I see a.
Speaker 2: Black You are kayak fishing, and your first and only
Speaker 2: thought was I watched Shark Week.
Speaker 3: I know what happened.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 4: No no, because I saw a shark. I saw a
Speaker 4: black tip shark. I know for a fact that it
Speaker 4: was a black ship shark. And I'm yelling at him
Speaker 4: and I'm like, there are sharks and he's like, there
Speaker 4: are not sharks, and I'm like, there are sharks.
Speaker 1: You don't understanding. He I was like, there's a fucking
Speaker 1: black tip and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, no, there's not. I saw that fin one time.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I probably could have won the Olympic
Speaker 4: gold medal for how fast I kayaked my ass back
Speaker 4: to that dog. I didn't even like there was no
Speaker 4: breathing associated with the mile and a half that I
Speaker 4: He looked up and he was like, holy shit, I've
Speaker 4: never seen anyone kayak as fast as you.
Speaker 1: I was out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was broken, I jumped out.
Speaker 1: That water on the dog.
Speaker 4: I threw that big up on the thing and I
Speaker 4: was I was out that water.
Speaker 1: He's like, I didn't even know you.
Speaker 4: Could lift that that heavy, So then no, here's the kicker.
Speaker 1: Though. We stayed and we went fishing night, fishing by
Speaker 1: the way off the docks.
Speaker 4: Guess who caught not one, but two black tip sharks
Speaker 4: that night?
Speaker 2: Really me me?
Speaker 4: And when I pulled that bitch up, I looked at
Speaker 4: him like the most smug cat that has ever been
Speaker 4: in life, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, this is what I.
Speaker 4: Saw, the bigger the only experience I have a picture
Speaker 4: of me with these sharks. And I was like, I
Speaker 4: think I told you.
Speaker 1: I felt so viny because they were baby sharks.
Speaker 4: And then we looked out and then we saw a
Speaker 4: bigger shark and he's like, oh, you were correct. I'm like, see,
Speaker 4: this is why I don't want to go fucking fishing
Speaker 4: in a kayak when a shark is bigger than the kayak.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only experience I have with the black tips
Speaker 2: is I worked on a shrimping boat in the Gulf
Speaker 2: of Mexico now the Gulf of America a couple of
Speaker 2: times throughout high school, and we had the drag nets
Speaker 2: and you know, we pulled them up. Didn't realize that
Speaker 2: we had just caught like eighteen baby black tip sharks.
Speaker 2: That was a pain in the ass to get them
Speaker 2: out of my way. Oh my god, they were only
Speaker 2: like a foot and a half long.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't rehears though.
Speaker 2: I didn't baby sharks swam in a school. Yes, today
Speaker 2: that's new. Inform them, but show enough. But anyway, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I went off on this whole shark but I feel
Speaker 4: very vindicated though to this day. It has been a
Speaker 4: very long time and still I'm like, I told you so, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I told you so.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I probably could have won the Olympics.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying with the amount of fear that I
Speaker 4: I had pumping through my veins. So when it comes
Speaker 4: to things in the woods, crackling and things and like.
Speaker 1: You will see my ass.
Speaker 2: Like tracking, there's limits to the amount of outdoors the
Speaker 2: initial actually do if there's hiking in an area where
Speaker 2: no predators are at the end.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm super outdoorsy, but I have a very very
Speaker 4: healthy respect for things that are bigger than me that
Speaker 4: will attack me. I have been hiking in the woods
Speaker 4: before with my with my oldest actually it was just
Speaker 4: me and him.
Speaker 1: Now I was very precautious.
Speaker 4: Anyways, just because of like situations with bears and things.
Speaker 1: And when I stumbled upon a bear family.
Speaker 4: God, I have never been more terrified in my life
Speaker 4: because I have a child strapped my chest sleeping, and
Speaker 4: I have a gun.
Speaker 2: Why do I kill you? I'll be honest, I didn't
Speaker 2: expect that from you. I thought you'd be the type
Speaker 2: that would go to like try to pet it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was a mama with babies.
Speaker 4: Just my dread kicked in of like, what kind of
Speaker 4: thing doesn't wake up?
Speaker 1: No black bear?
Speaker 2: Oh, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 1: It was It's a pretty significant bear.
Speaker 4: And I have a I have a child on me,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I am alone in the woods, and
Speaker 4: all I can think is like, please don't spot me,
Speaker 4: Please don't wake up and cry, Please don't notice me,
Speaker 4: And like there's been there's been some time. So when
Speaker 4: I I have I'm not a terrified I will go
Speaker 4: and do all these things. It's just I have a
Speaker 4: very healthy respect for animals and their environment. And then
Speaker 4: you know what eliver else might be in the woods.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I'm not gonna fuck with you. You
Speaker 4: don't need to fuck with me. We were just gonna
Speaker 4: be coexisting and habitating in the same area, and like.
Speaker 2: No, no, but that's that is what Scott does.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, So the first time that he ever saw a sasquatch,
Speaker 2: he was actually I believe you saw the dog man first, right,
Speaker 2: he was in the deer stand be out.
Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I saw the I saw him together,
Speaker 3: is what I saw him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The thing of it is is when you see him,
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't know what the heck to do.
Speaker 3: You just look at them. But here's the thing is,
Speaker 3: did I run? No? I didn't run, but I walked
Speaker 3: pretty quick. Sure, sure I was. I was like, look,
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I was. I was like you,
Speaker 3: I was, Raven. I was walking really quick and really fast. Okay,
Speaker 3: But that's my point.
Speaker 2: You weren't trying to be a threat to them.
Speaker 3: You were.
Speaker 2: No, you let them know very clearly that hey, I'm
Speaker 2: here to harvest a deer. I am not here to
Speaker 2: affect you or your family, and and you are cohabitating
Speaker 2: in the same area of operation right now, but you.
Speaker 3: Live here here to hurt you, So it don't hurt
Speaker 3: me exactly exactly. But that's the thing. How you say it,
Speaker 3: revn Uh raven I don't have to be fast. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be faster than you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, looks fast as fucking my. There there is no
Speaker 4: way I'm out running that bastard in anything.
Speaker 1: And I know this for a fact. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: Bro's a.
Speaker 4: Better shot than me too, Like I'm good, I'm actually
Speaker 4: better at moving targets than he is, but he's an
Speaker 4: overall way better shot than me. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: i gotta moving targets here.
Speaker 2: It comes because we gotta hit the rain.
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I hit the range.
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, no, I'm really good at moving targets,
Speaker 4: really good at that.
Speaker 1: I excel.
Speaker 4: But when it comes to like stationary targets, I'm not
Speaker 4: the best because I have I do have really bad eyesight,
Speaker 4: and so he has like a phenomenal eyesight. And I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 4: I'm fucked any which way from Sunday. You can run fastest, sheit,
Speaker 4: you can lift fastest, shit, you can shoot more than me.
Speaker 2: Like he is in fact a male, but you know.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, we're gonna bring sex into this.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, is it a crazy thing to say that
Speaker 2: men can run faster and lift more than women? I
Speaker 2: thought that was kind of called biology.
Speaker 3: But all right, anyway, hey, look at the I got
Speaker 3: you two pictures. I sent you two more pictures to
Speaker 3: look at it.
Speaker 2: All right, let me try to pull them up real quick.
Speaker 3: So I want you all to see this female, and
Speaker 3: I let Raven take a look at it, because I
Speaker 3: don't Raven to check this female out that I saw
Speaker 3: to have a picture of it.
Speaker 2: Let me, I got to drag them over real quick.
Speaker 2: Hold up, Hold up, yeah, but back to what you
Speaker 2: were saying, as far as your first experience with these
Speaker 2: these creatures, you're very clear in the fact that you're
Speaker 2: not here to hurt them. You're not here to uh no, no,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 3: And still in all they know I'm not here to
Speaker 3: hurt them. So this past weekend I was outside and
Speaker 3: actually we had some guys come up where we're shooting
Speaker 3: a documentary which is coming out soon. I'll let y'all
Speaker 3: know about that too. So we haven't named a documentary
Speaker 3: or anything yet. It's just been shot, so as soon
Speaker 3: as it comes up, i'll let y'all know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So no name on it as of yet, gotcha.
Speaker 3: No name of nothing. So here you go. Here's here's
Speaker 3: the picture. I don't Raven to take a look at it. Raven,
Speaker 3: you tell me what you see in the picture?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, and yeah, do you think here and then there?
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, yep, you like pull.
Speaker 1: You clicked on it before you even pulled it all up.
Speaker 3: Really, so you can see that she doesn't have a
Speaker 3: bra zero on. Okay, let's just say it like that.
Speaker 3: You know she's and that's that. That's the original picture
Speaker 3: that I took. See how forced a way she is?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3: And to let y'all know we we actually redid this
Speaker 3: shot right here in the woods with a documentary. And
Speaker 3: that guy his head and he's about close to six
Speaker 3: foot tall. His head only comes up about where that
Speaker 3: log goes across right there, and so that about up
Speaker 3: and theirs where his head would come up at. Okay,
Speaker 3: and then above that is where her rest of her
Speaker 3: body is. And so you can say it's pretty big.
Speaker 3: Now if you can you zoom in a little bit
Speaker 3: more on that or not, I'm not sure. I guess
Speaker 3: start zooming in. I'm gonna sell you some stuff.
Speaker 2: Why is it not? It's crazy It could zoom in
Speaker 2: only when I didn't really need it too. But now
Speaker 2: all right, here we go.
Speaker 3: So as you zoom in you can start to get
Speaker 3: the clarity of it, and what you're seeing there is
Speaker 3: her left you know, her boob, and then then her
Speaker 3: shoulder is real shiny on the left hand side. Now
Speaker 3: her face is kind of hidden by some branches in
Speaker 3: the front, so you really can't tell too much right there. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: that's her face. Go back up with your pointer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but your pointer right there's a head. Yeah, okay, if
Speaker 3: you drop down a little bit, go down. That's between
Speaker 3: the two. That's her breast right there. That's her breast.
Speaker 3: It's a shoulder. Then if you swing over to the
Speaker 3: other side, there's the other breast on that side is
Speaker 3: kind of hanging down to the low right, and then
Speaker 3: you can almost you can almost see her bellies right there.
Speaker 3: Stop where you got Okay, go back up, stop, go
Speaker 3: to left. That's her belly right there, and then you
Speaker 3: go down. Her legs are further down below.
Speaker 2: That right right. I see at least one leg here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right there, that's it. That's it, sir, leg right there.
Speaker 2: So where were you? And this picture was taken.
Speaker 3: In the National Force in the Kasachi. That's where I
Speaker 3: was at I was at my dare stand. That's what
Speaker 3: I was telling you about. That's the one I had
Speaker 3: the conversation with. And like I said, don't give stories.
Speaker 3: I don't like giving stories unless I can present a actual,
Speaker 3: factual picture with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh what you got another that I wanted to look?
Speaker 1: And right here, really quick, is.
Speaker 2: There another one? Yep? Yep?
Speaker 3: Right there? With your pointer? Is there something right in there?
Speaker 3: To see the face? That's it? You were on a
Speaker 3: face right there? Stop stop you're moving around coat town.
Speaker 2: This is the face.
Speaker 3: That's a face. That's it. You don't see the eyes
Speaker 3: and the nose. Sure, it's kind it's kind of like
Speaker 3: a young one there. And if you see the eyes
Speaker 3: and it's it's kind of almost bald headed a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know, don't have a whole lot of hair on it.
Speaker 3: But that's the face right there.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I guess my eyes are
Speaker 2: not trained to look at the woods in such a
Speaker 2: way because I don't see that. I mean, once you
Speaker 2: pointed out, I mean, once.
Speaker 3: You can see it.
Speaker 2: I can see it once you point.
Speaker 3: Raven's pretty good. I get Ravens. Ladies are good at
Speaker 3: looking at this, aren't things. I got to give it.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the woods too though.
Speaker 4: Like to be fair, I grew up on a farm,
Speaker 4: but on both sides of the farm is canyons and
Speaker 4: so like across the way as a canyon, and I
Speaker 4: mean there's you know, it's just you see things in
Speaker 4: the woods, especially when you go and you go hiking
Speaker 4: lot and things like that, and you know, it's easy
Speaker 4: to point things out.
Speaker 1: When you've been in the woods a lot in your life.
Speaker 1: But I can.
Speaker 4: I like the hide and seek and the finds and stuff.
Speaker 4: I can find things really quickly when I look at pictures.
Speaker 3: So need to start bringing a camera, I'm telling.
Speaker 1: You, yeah, camera, I still want to know. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 3: That's the thing is you have to get beyond your fear,
Speaker 3: you know, get beyond your fear because they're not here
Speaker 3: to hurt you. If they're the bad ones you're gonna
Speaker 3: hear are in any coming here, they're coming after you,
Speaker 3: an you gotta run, you know, because I've never I'm
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I haven't had a dog man
Speaker 3: charge me. I haven't had a big well back up. Yes,
Speaker 3: yes I did back up. But the Louisiana though it
Speaker 3: was in Louisiana, correct, So.
Speaker 2: Is it possible they just have only good ones in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: It's other places in the country where they have the
Speaker 2: bad ones.
Speaker 3: I think they got some bad ones that Louisiana that
Speaker 3: run across them. Yet if I do, You're gonna have
Speaker 3: yourself a body because I'm gonna shoot it. Let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna mess I'm not. I'm not gonna mess around,
Speaker 3: hi jokers, I'm saying right now. I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: trust the bad ones at all. But anyways, so I'm
Speaker 3: We had had our property up north Louisiana and we
Speaker 3: were making a campground up there, and so we had
Speaker 3: a big pad made, okay, And so once the pad
Speaker 3: was made, I had to go get some grass seed
Speaker 3: and h bring up there to put down until I
Speaker 3: could save enough money put some rock and stuf up
Speaker 3: on it, you know. And so That's where I was
Speaker 3: at with it. And so I went hunting that day
Speaker 3: and then I come back that evening. It was a Sunday,
Speaker 3: and my cousin they they go to church Sunday morning,
Speaker 3: Sunday evening, Okay, dumped in the Bible belt, so I
Speaker 3: go twice a day. Yeah, displays a part into it also.
Speaker 3: So anyways, I'm sitting there and I went to the
Speaker 3: woods and I went hunted and everything. So I came
Speaker 3: back and I took the cedar and I was walking
Speaker 3: behind this cedar, and all of a sudden I hear
Speaker 3: something was right at dark too. Every all stuff happens
Speaker 3: right at dark. The sun's going down. It's going over
Speaker 3: to the trees. You know, we can go behind the trees.
Speaker 3: And it's really funny. If you ever noticed, y'all were
Speaker 3: in military may notices. Right before the sun goes down,
Speaker 3: it's real bright, and then all of sudden he gets dark.
Speaker 3: Don do you ever know sight? Okay, yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: what it. That's where it was at. It was getting bright,
Speaker 3: going back dark again. At that point, I hear something
Speaker 3: across the road international forest from my land where my
Speaker 3: land is out up there, and it's coming down this ridge.
Speaker 3: So I hear it. It sounded like a big old buck,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh, I ain't got my guning.
Speaker 3: I left my gun and the truck next door, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, god, dog, So I'm looking at his watches. Well,
Speaker 3: I just see a big old buck coming down. So
Speaker 3: sure enough, this thing runs down. Then it's dark and
Speaker 3: it's big, and it's running down. All of a sudden
Speaker 3: it crosses and it goes to a little slew, which
Speaker 3: would be like a little mini swamp. It's just a
Speaker 3: creek and big old creek is down there, and here
Speaker 3: it just going through the water and it jumps over
Speaker 3: the road. Then it comes into my property, starts coming
Speaker 3: up the hill where I'm at. I'm like, what in
Speaker 3: the world. So I'm walking toward it right I stops
Speaker 3: just to see what it is. It comes up the
Speaker 3: hill and it does like a spider does like this.
Speaker 3: It just lays down right in front of me, starts
Speaker 3: looking at me. It's a dog man and it's black.
Speaker 3: There's black, big black, like seven seven foot long, and
Speaker 3: it's just sitting there looking at me. I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god. So I'm sitting there. I got the spreader,
Speaker 3: and I got the spreader in my hand. Here you go,
Speaker 3: people coming in from church. The truck comes in, starts
Speaker 3: turning in, coming up the driveway next to me, puts
Speaker 3: its lights out, and I got a really good look
Speaker 3: at it. The lights were on it like this. Right
Speaker 3: when it turns in, you can see it. So I said, well, lord, today,
Speaker 3: they're gonna get me today. So I said, all right, whatever,
Speaker 3: So I just take the spreader and I just turn
Speaker 3: around and walk off. And I said, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: this tomorrow morning. I'm not gonna worry about it this
Speaker 3: evening because the sun's going down quick after that, right
Speaker 3: And see, So I start walking to my cousins next door,
Speaker 3: and it's probably a couple of hundred yards away, you know.
Speaker 3: And I just told that thing, I said, well, if
Speaker 3: you get me to get me. Never came and got me.
Speaker 3: I'm scared to talk about it. But it just sat there.
Speaker 3: And what it did was like a spider. It just
Speaker 3: sit there and just looked at me like this. That
Speaker 3: was it.
Speaker 1: Nope, as soon as you said, spider, I'm done.
Speaker 3: That's what it did.
Speaker 1: Out of that area, lightening that please up.
Speaker 3: But normally I would have my gun with me, and
Speaker 3: this one day I did not have my gun. So
Speaker 3: do they they know when you have a gun but
Speaker 3: you don't have a gun. Yes, they do. There again,
Speaker 3: they just know things.
Speaker 4: The dogmen don't sound friendly to me from all the
Speaker 4: other common stations we've had with people. They don't particularly
Speaker 4: sound the most friendly to me. They remind me of
Speaker 4: hell hounds, but like, not in the extent of dragging
Speaker 4: people the hell, but like they do not sound like.
Speaker 1: Creatures you really want to fuck with.
Speaker 2: They're not like friendly, yeah right, they're they're more protective.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I just don't want to vibe with them
Speaker 4: at all, not even a little bit. I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: turn it and walk away very quickly.
Speaker 3: It makes you wonder, you know. The first experience I
Speaker 3: ever had was when I was a child, and I
Speaker 3: was really young, and I was ten years old, and
Speaker 3: I used to go stay with my grandmother. Now, my
Speaker 3: grandmother lived close to where Fort Polk is. You know
Speaker 3: where that's at overre in Leesville, right near that. Okay,
Speaker 3: So she lived out in the Ponne woods way out there.
Speaker 3: And when I say she lived out in the middle
Speaker 3: of the woods, you had to come back toward town
Speaker 3: to go squirrel hunting. Okay, that's how far she lived
Speaker 3: out cat that joke, yeah, yeah, and make sure Raven
Speaker 3: caught it. I had to come back to more Town
Speaker 3: to go grow up. Okay, Okay, it was a joke,
Speaker 3: but anyways. Yeah, So anyways, so I had cousins that
Speaker 3: lived up on a highway a couple of miles away,
Speaker 3: and I would go play with them and run back
Speaker 3: and i'd go stay with her at night and everything. Well,
Speaker 3: there's one particular like night there again it's getting dark
Speaker 3: and I stayed out too late, and I'm running back,
Speaker 3: so I'm might haul a buss fast as I can.
Speaker 3: I had to pass the Baptist church and I had
Speaker 3: to pass a barrel. It was a cemetery, bareground cemetery,
Speaker 3: and then I had to come around a big old
Speaker 3: curve and I was at her house. Okay, so sure enough,
Speaker 3: all that was going on, I was already scared running
Speaker 3: by the cemetery, like dead people won't bother you, right,
Speaker 3: they don't bother you. So I'm running by that, and
Speaker 3: sure enough I come around by all these cows and
Speaker 3: I feel something. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 3: I just feel it, like something's watching me. And the
Speaker 3: cow is just sitting there grazing. It was open range
Speaker 3: back then, you know, in the seventies. So then I
Speaker 3: go on there and my grandma said, all right, get
Speaker 3: cleaned up. We got to go to bed and all that.
Speaker 3: So it's getting dark, you know, it says, all right,
Speaker 3: So we went to bed at dark and everything. So
Speaker 3: we go to bed. Now I understand what I said
Speaker 3: about open range. Back then they let pigs and cows
Speaker 3: and everything just roam out there. And the even time,
Speaker 3: most of them came back to their stalls, you know,
Speaker 3: most of them did, and some of them just stayed out.
Speaker 3: But they had these cow bells on. It would clink
Speaker 3: and clunk and make noises and all that. And so
Speaker 3: she had an old house. In the back of this
Speaker 3: house had kind of went down a little bit, so
Speaker 3: it was kind of like on an angle because they
Speaker 3: had sunk and it was an old board and baton
Speaker 3: house is what it was. So they had two beds
Speaker 3: in his back bedroom. She had a bed and I
Speaker 3: had a bed. And I remember went to sleep and
Speaker 3: it was probably, I'm just guessing, y'all, it was probably
Speaker 3: about ten o'clock at night, but the moon had already
Speaker 3: come to I remember the moon was shining and I
Speaker 3: could see outside and I heard something walk around. It
Speaker 3: was really really heavy. You could hear the footsteps, and
Speaker 3: so I hollered at my grandma, said, Grandma, so wake
Speaker 3: up and she was storing. I says there was something outside.
Speaker 3: So I said, Grandma, to something outside, and she said,
Speaker 3: oh boy, just go back to sleep. She goes, that
Speaker 3: ain't nothing. That's a cow I said, But I don't
Speaker 3: hear a cowbill. You see, my mind at ten years
Speaker 3: old is already thinking about this stuff, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden I hear it. She goes back to sleep,
Speaker 3: and this singing walks, y'all, and he goes to the
Speaker 3: back of her house and actually, like you see me
Speaker 3: in the screen right here, it actually bends down and
Speaker 3: looks inside the wind at me. Now. Its head took
Speaker 3: up basically a three x three window, and what I
Speaker 3: saw it was a werewolf. Wherewif And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you what happened. It wasn't until after twenty nineteen and
Speaker 3: twenty twenty I asked some kind of PTSD type thing
Speaker 3: to where I fogged all that out. You have ever
Speaker 3: heard of that? Before you go through it? Okay, military, y'all,
Speaker 3: Certain things you just fog it out, you don't ever
Speaker 3: remember it and goes away. Well, that's what happened to
Speaker 3: me until I started doing also the research. I actually
Speaker 3: found something that looked like it, and when I found
Speaker 3: it is actually in some kind of museum, crypto museum
Speaker 3: or something like that over in England, and it was
Speaker 3: actual werewof head what I saw, and it was amazing
Speaker 3: how that triggered and it came back and said, oh
Speaker 3: my god, that's what I saw in the mirror that time. Wow.
Speaker 3: And so since the little kid, I've had these experiences.
Speaker 3: I've had that, and I didn't see anything that I
Speaker 3: can remember was back until about two thousand and nine
Speaker 3: and I was hunting again on our lease, and it
Speaker 3: pretty much started around then because what I saw. I
Speaker 3: was in a hunting stand and my cousin had ran
Speaker 3: the dogs through and back then you could run dogs
Speaker 3: and stuff at certain times and everything. So he ran
Speaker 3: some dogs do and everything, and so I got out
Speaker 3: of stand and I started walking down this firebreak and
Speaker 3: then when I walked past this set of briers, a
Speaker 3: big old thicket, it was this round hole like this,
Speaker 3: and what I seen was this thing was squatted down
Speaker 3: and it looked just like a sasquatch, all hair, real big, huge,
Speaker 3: except it had a snout on it and it had
Speaker 3: ears poenty ears on it. It was all full of hair.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what that was. It was an
Speaker 3: overgrown dog man, I don't know. To this day, I
Speaker 3: still don't know what that was. So that's that's one
Speaker 3: of those different types of cryptos that you have out there.
Speaker 2: So to follow up on the story that you told
Speaker 2: us last time you were on the show, and there's
Speaker 2: been quite a minute, and I understand that. So you
Speaker 2: said that you you at that time were walking with
Speaker 2: a limp because you had basically a group of Sasquatch
Speaker 2: young wings that were living with you at that time,
Speaker 2: and one of them had run up under your feet
Speaker 2: while you were walking down the stairs and ufel.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, So let me tell you about it.
Speaker 2: Do you still have the young wings living with you?
Speaker 3: Not as much. No, they're not as much here because
Speaker 3: what they do, this is what y'all this is funny.
Speaker 3: So they they whey they explained to the way the
Speaker 3: Sasquatch explained it to me was they allowed the young
Speaker 3: ones to come live with us in a cloaking situation
Speaker 3: or a different dimension so they could learn humans, okay,
Speaker 3: what to do and what not to do and how
Speaker 3: to live with us and all that, and they were here.
Speaker 3: My wife didn't like it. She She finally told them
Speaker 3: the mama to get tell them to get the hell
Speaker 3: out of our house because I'll get ready to go
Speaker 3: to work or something like that. They'd hide my keys,
Speaker 3: they would hide my wallet, they would hide my lunch,
Speaker 3: they would have my belt, they would they just hide
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff. And they played with you, and
Speaker 3: then we would be downstairs. This is funny. We have pets, okay,
Speaker 3: So all the pets would be downstairs with us, and
Speaker 3: we'd hear stuff upstairs, just running douju dijujujuu, running back
Speaker 3: and forth. I looked at her, looked at me and say, yep,
Speaker 3: they're upstairs playing, and so we would hear that, or
Speaker 3: we'd hear this is funny. So we have a cat
Speaker 3: that come We have two cats that come in inside
Speaker 3: of house and in and out the house. One cat
Speaker 3: has learned how to take the door seal and pull
Speaker 3: it out and slap it like a doorbell, and she
Speaker 3: lets us know when she wants to come back in. Yes. Wow,
Speaker 3: Now where did the cat learn that from? I don't know,
Speaker 3: but anyways, I can only imagine. Anyways, so all the
Speaker 3: cats are inside, the dog is inside, and we hear
Speaker 3: the door slapping out there. So then the other thing
Speaker 3: is a couple of years ago. It got down the twenties,
Speaker 3: like four days in a row. It was like, I
Speaker 3: forgot what year that was, but right, yeah, twy twenty
Speaker 3: three or something like that, was it. This is twenty six,
Speaker 3: twenty four or something like that.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife cold for like a good solid, like
Speaker 1: week and a half.
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, right, yeah, And so just so happened. Thank god,
Speaker 3: I took vacation during that time. And so I was
Speaker 3: off for like a week and my wife goes she
Speaker 3: had to go outside and get something. I forgot what
Speaker 3: it was, so she bumded it all up, went outside,
Speaker 3: went to the freezer or something like that, had to
Speaker 3: get something out. She said, you said a footprint outside.
Speaker 3: I said, I hadn't been outside as cold. I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not getting out there right now. It's twenty degrees.
Speaker 3: She said, well, she said, go look at it. I said, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not going outside. It's cold. She goes, go look
Speaker 3: at the footprint. I'm like, oh my god. So I'll
Speaker 3: get my clothes on a bundle up. I go out there,
Speaker 3: and sure enough, there is a footprint in the mud
Speaker 3: on the side of the concrete. So I took a
Speaker 3: picture of that too. But it's a short footprint, but
Speaker 3: it's wide. It's short, but it's wide, and it's deep.
Speaker 3: Like if you and I stepped on the dirt or
Speaker 3: the mud or anything like that, I probably wouldn't do anything.
Speaker 3: This was down in the mud and it took the
Speaker 3: ground and squished it up. Even as little ones, they're heavy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to tell you the story again about what happened with me,
Speaker 3: And this is this one of the things where you
Speaker 3: talk about can they hurt you or they kill you?
Speaker 3: They demonic and all that. I don't believe they are.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you why this. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: into that story for you.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So I was going downstairs. I wasn't in a hurr
Speaker 3: or anything. I was just going down the stairs, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I felt something kicked my leg
Speaker 3: out from under me. So I went to go catch
Speaker 3: myself with an arm, and I was about seven steps
Speaker 3: from the bottom. I think we have seventeen steps going
Speaker 3: up upstairs. And when I did, something kicked my mother
Speaker 3: leg out from under me, and so I hit all
Speaker 3: the stairs going down bam bam, bam, bam, bam. And
Speaker 3: when I got to the bottom, I swore, what's that
Speaker 3: bomb between your knee and your ankle? What's that one
Speaker 3: called the shin? Well, the shin I guess it'd be
Speaker 3: a shin bombed. I thought there's another name for it.
Speaker 3: But anyways, Yeah, so I could have sworn that leg
Speaker 3: was broke. When I tell you broke, it felt like
Speaker 3: it snapped. And I'm sitting there screaming and hollering at
Speaker 3: the same time. For a milli second. Yeah, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you for a milli second. I seen them. There was
Speaker 3: two small ones there and they were standing there like this.
Speaker 3: Their mouth was wide open, their mouth was wide up
Speaker 3: and looking at me, and I screamed, and my wife
Speaker 3: came runn around the corner. She goes, what happened, I said,
Speaker 3: I said, they tripped me. I said they didn't mean
Speaker 3: to it, but they there was accident. They tripped me
Speaker 3: and I fell down the stairs. I said, I think
Speaker 3: my legs broke. She said, you when we call now
Speaker 3: one one? I said, no, no, just let me just
Speaker 3: let me sit there for a minute. I gotta get
Speaker 3: my thoughts together. So I screamed, and I said, come
Speaker 3: and get your kids. Now, I said, Now they're I said,
Speaker 3: get them out of the house. Now, this is what happened.
Speaker 3: They went away. I felt, I felt their spirit whatever leave.
Speaker 3: But then I felt her come back, and the mother
Speaker 3: came back. And this is where it gets, because where
Speaker 3: it gets really strange. She puts both her hands on
Speaker 3: my leg. Now, both her hands filled up my whole
Speaker 3: basically my whole leg and all that down there. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if she prayed for me and whatever
Speaker 3: she did, but I'm telling y'all, in the name of God,
Speaker 3: the name of Jesus, name the Holy Spirit, she healed
Speaker 3: my leg. Wow, she healed my.
Speaker 2: Leg, Tivia. It might be the one, Okay.
Speaker 3: It's not the one between my hip and my thighs.
Speaker 3: The other one so that's in between my.
Speaker 4: Mouth, yeah, yeah, between your knee cap and your ankle.
Speaker 2: That that is the one that was broken.
Speaker 3: I'm telling y'all. I'm telling you it was broken because
Speaker 3: I felt it. I felt that when it snapped and
Speaker 3: she came and put her hands on. Mean, she held
Speaker 3: my leg and she she prayed over did something. It
Speaker 3: healed it. So can they heal you? Yes? They can?
Speaker 4: Okay, So you believe Angelic in essence, or they have
Speaker 4: some type of angelic.
Speaker 1: Divinity, I mean potentially or is it Do you.
Speaker 4: Think that they have a type of actual healing energy
Speaker 4: because they are a different species.
Speaker 3: I think they're of God. Yeah, I think that God.
Speaker 3: I think God created them. Now that's a whole other
Speaker 3: level of what you're what you're thinking. See, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: When you talk about angels, you're putting everything into a
Speaker 3: certain category. Right, it's just angels with wings and all that.
Speaker 3: What if angels don't all have wings?
Speaker 2: But isn't there like multiple as in the Bible, they
Speaker 2: have different types of angels, the chub or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, all angels.
Speaker 3: But what if they I don't have to say what if?
Speaker 3: Because I know, I mean, this one healed me. They
Speaker 3: have healing abilities. Okay, And I'm not the first one
Speaker 3: who said that before. I mean I believed it before
Speaker 3: they could do it. And I know of another man
Speaker 3: that is in I see in California, is in Oregon,
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Somewhere on the West coast somewhere.
Speaker 3: Where are you from over there? Raven? But anyways, to
Speaker 3: make a long story short, he had a needed to
Speaker 3: have a procedure, and him and Matthew Johnson worked together
Speaker 3: and they actually had made a machine that could open
Speaker 3: up a portal, and they actually opened up a portal
Speaker 3: with this machine, and this guy here ended up having
Speaker 3: some kind of procedure they needed to have done that.
Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was cancer, it was something else.
Speaker 3: But they came in in the middle of the night
Speaker 3: and he said he's seen them too come in, but
Speaker 3: not as in a physical form, but basically in another form.
Speaker 3: And they laid hands on him and they healed him
Speaker 3: to wow, yep, and I stopped the only one I've heard.
Speaker 3: I've heard other stories about that too, where they can't
Speaker 3: heal you. So I've heard of things to where hikers
Speaker 3: had fallen down a mountain and they actually picked them up,
Speaker 3: brought them to the trail, and they had, you know,
Speaker 3: let people know that that's where they were. They put
Speaker 3: them where they could find them. You know, if I've
Speaker 3: heard those stories too, So to say, if they're all
Speaker 3: meaning they kill people and hurt people, don't I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean unless you point a gun or you do
Speaker 3: something to them to make them want to hurt you.
Speaker 3: So you go in there and hurt their kids or
Speaker 3: you do something. I mean, you know, somebody came and
Speaker 3: hit my wife or my kids or something coming here.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like somebody walks into your yard with
Speaker 3: a gun. You follow what I'm saying, So think about
Speaker 3: like this, this is where they live at. You walk
Speaker 3: into there, you're walking there with a gun. They know
Speaker 3: you're hunting, but they don't know you're going to hurt
Speaker 3: them or kill them. So they're on edge, right. So
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. You know, It's what we would do.
Speaker 3: But I know that they have healing properties too. They
Speaker 3: can do that.
Speaker 2: Now you said that you don't have the young wings
Speaker 2: living with you much anymore, but they have stopped by
Speaker 2: since the incident.
Speaker 3: They've they've had single ones coming stay with At the time,
Speaker 3: we had twins staying with us. They were twins and
Speaker 3: they came in and they came inside our house. People said, oh,
Speaker 3: you're crazy and all that. I said, well, I believe
Speaker 3: which one to believe. I know what was here. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've seen.
Speaker 2: Them, you know.
Speaker 3: Also, let me tell you this, the UFO activity during
Speaker 3: that time was out the roof. I've seen me and
Speaker 3: my wife seen, well, we've seen one together. I've seen
Speaker 3: one come out of a portal at night, and and
Speaker 3: uh what it What it did was it was basically
Speaker 3: like a projection screen. The portal opened up straight up
Speaker 3: and down this this UFO shot out of it and
Speaker 3: just took off towards the west and then it closed
Speaker 3: right back. And then another time I was sitting out there.
Speaker 3: I just come in. I have to work at night,
Speaker 3: and then sometime I grab me a cigar or something
Speaker 3: like that and smoke and just meditate and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: you know, sitting out there, and it was really nice outside,
Speaker 3: and so I just sat out there and chill out.
Speaker 3: And then I seen a triangle one night, and what
Speaker 3: it was was a cloud coming And all the other
Speaker 3: clouds were coming from the northwest. This one cloud was
Speaker 3: coming in from the west by itself. And I stopped
Speaker 3: and I said, I can see you, and all a sudden,
Speaker 3: this thing it basically showed itself to me. It was
Speaker 3: cloaking that it became where it wasn't cloaking. It was
Speaker 3: a triangle, huge triangle, Jacob. It pretty much covered most
Speaker 3: of the town we live in, that's how big it was.
Speaker 3: And then and then the lights came on. It covered
Speaker 3: up most of that town. That's how big it was.
Speaker 2: For how long.
Speaker 3: About five minutes. That stayed there a long time, stayed
Speaker 3: there a long time. And then another time I'd come
Speaker 3: in from work and this was really weird. These odd
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'll pay attention to clouds. This cloud
Speaker 3: came over and there again. I think this time was
Speaker 3: in the summertime because it was hot, and these these
Speaker 3: clouds were coming in basically from the south, and this
Speaker 3: one came in was coming from the north by itself.
Speaker 3: I'm like, look at this scene here, and I stopped
Speaker 3: and looked at it. This Rubik's cube comes out of it. Okay,
Speaker 3: and this Ruby's cube what it looks like, just like
Speaker 3: just like a Ruby's cube, except it had it was cloaked,
Speaker 3: and it took off toward the south and it just
Speaker 3: took took off toward the northeast and it was gone.
Speaker 3: I mean milliseconds, it was gone.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Those are the UFOs I've seen, and plus the ones
Speaker 3: i've seen on a hunt lease up there. I've actually
Speaker 3: seen one. A light come across the sky and stop.
Speaker 3: Me and my cousins seen this. He was freaking out
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, the same thing. Projection screen opens,
Speaker 3: it goes in that's and it closes. And I said,
Speaker 3: you don't see it no more. I said, did you
Speaker 3: just see that? He said, yeah, disappeared and said no,
Speaker 3: it went into a portal. So you can see stuff.
Speaker 3: We can see stuff, and and unless you've been around
Speaker 3: this stuff before, or you see it but you don't
Speaker 3: realize what's going on. You just see a light that disappears,
Speaker 3: go straight across and disappears. I've seen it go and stop.
Speaker 3: I've seen the portal open. I've seen it go inside
Speaker 3: the portal close.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It makes you wonder though, it makes you wonder are
Speaker 3: they to each other? Well that too, but it makes
Speaker 3: you wonder what the federal government has.
Speaker 2: And that is why we love doing this for work,
Speaker 2: because that is all we get to do is talk
Speaker 2: about the possibilities.
Speaker 3: And if space here's a good one for you, Space
Speaker 3: force dude.
Speaker 2: We have talked about this so much.
Speaker 4: Peter Fuller, actually, I feel like you and him would
Speaker 4: get along great. Yea space Yeah, so he wrote multiple
Speaker 4: books about it and very interesting. Man. I actually really
Speaker 4: enjoyed talking with him, but he all talks all about
Speaker 4: space force and like just different programs and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And what he possibilities. Right, Okay, the things that I
Speaker 3: I've heard so far is not that we're talking about
Speaker 3: all these beans. Once you get to go to Jupiter
Speaker 3: and Saturn, all these beans are already there.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: I mean that brings in the conversation though you know
Speaker 4: they're already there.
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you you know these things already there?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I mean Elon's trying to launch his whole situation. I
Speaker 4: guess Artemis is no longer launching this year.
Speaker 2: No, they got pushed the next year. But that's gonna
Speaker 2: get pushed again.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be then.
Speaker 4: You have, you know, the race to nuclear power on
Speaker 4: the Moon in China and Russia's whole you know, takeover
Speaker 4: of the Dark side of the Moon.
Speaker 2: I have looked more into their designs of how they
Speaker 2: plan on having a nuclear powered facility on the Moon.
Speaker 2: Building a facility on the moon gonna be difficult in
Speaker 2: of itself unless you're accounting for the shipping of building
Speaker 2: materials with you, But all right, can be done for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, a nuclear reactor works off of steam. How
Speaker 2: you making steam in the vacuum of space. Well, it's
Speaker 2: an enclosed system, and it's like, okay, even if it's
Speaker 2: an enclosed system, you're not going to be able to
Speaker 2: maintain the temperature slash pressure for water to go into
Speaker 2: its gaseous state to turn the turbans. But like I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see if they succeed.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean they want to use glare bombs, glare
Speaker 4: of fountains for changing Mars atmosphere to make it more
Speaker 4: habitable for us as humans. So yeah, that's well, I
Speaker 4: think Mars is more the most habitable situation we have
Speaker 4: going on currently.
Speaker 2: It's the goal for sure.
Speaker 3: But here's the what if for you'all throw some matches.
Speaker 3: Let y'all think a little bit. What if you were
Speaker 3: able to open up a portal and you can be
Speaker 3: on Mars from Earth?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Teleportation?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen the movie John Carter? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, many times.
Speaker 3: I actually love them.
Speaker 1: I actually love that movie.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen it?
Speaker 2: I have, but it's been quite some time.
Speaker 1: That movie.
Speaker 3: I'm actually watched it quite watch watch it again, because
Speaker 3: that's exactly what happens in that right.
Speaker 2: When I think of teleportation, all I could think of
Speaker 2: is Jeff Goldbloom in The Fly.
Speaker 1: The Fly God. That's a freak human. If you really
Speaker 1: think about that movie, that really is freaking Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: My mom can't even handle it at all.
Speaker 4: But when we talk about so the big conversation though,
Speaker 4: is not about preserving humans in their human form. It's
Speaker 4: actually about preserving the human consciousness. And that goes into
Speaker 4: Epstein stuff, and that goes into their AI and what
Speaker 4: they're actually pushing for in the conversation that they've been
Speaker 4: having and what I found and I missed it, Honestly,
Speaker 4: I missed it the the last few times I've listened
Speaker 4: to them them And when I say them, I'm talking
Speaker 4: about like Phink, I'm talking about Elon, I'm talking about Gates,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about Zuckerberg.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Them til they caught talk about the human consciousness. And
Speaker 4: I didn't pay enough attention until recently because I was
Speaker 4: looking into Epstein stuff and what the conversation is is
Speaker 4: about they are willing to do whatever it takes to
Speaker 4: preserve the human consciousness. Now, when you think about it, though,
Speaker 4: you don't need a human body to preserve that.
Speaker 2: I mean up until recently, it was understood that we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah up until very very recently.
Speaker 4: So the conversation, though, is preserving us in pretty much
Speaker 4: robotic sleeves of chips and like that. The that talks
Speaker 4: about like alter ego the conversation alter ego.
Speaker 1: Maybe no, it's not alter state the.
Speaker 4: Show, but the they have like these chips in the
Speaker 4: back of their necks and they can put them in
Speaker 4: and out of different people whatever.
Speaker 1: And if we're going into space.
Speaker 4: And we're doing the whole, hey, we need to be
Speaker 4: able to preserve ourselves for long periods of time. Hey,
Speaker 4: our bodies don't actually work on these planets, but our
Speaker 4: consciousness can come with these things. And he was talking
Speaker 4: about deep space exploration and going further and further and
Speaker 4: further into other universes and conversations like that.
Speaker 1: Then it comes into all.
Speaker 4: The beings that it might be out there or are
Speaker 4: are out there, and then us actually interacting and having
Speaker 4: some type of galactic situation and like, oh, hey, we
Speaker 4: just learned that you exist, and everyone's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: we all know that you exist.
Speaker 1: We just didn't want to fuck with you guys, like
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: That's and so like trying to figure out how to
Speaker 4: like actually do all of that. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: what ifs and what the programs are about. And space
Speaker 4: force in and of itself is an interesting conversation because
Speaker 4: we were just reading that on the Live about there.
Speaker 1: They kept saying human and like humanness and human that
Speaker 1: I actually been trying.
Speaker 4: I've been looking to applying into the civilian sector because
Speaker 4: I want to see if I can get on, because
Speaker 4: I'm nosy and I really want information.
Speaker 2: I feel like that might be why you're disqualified for
Speaker 2: the job. I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I guarantee that i'd be able to I guarantee if
Speaker 4: they if I do an assessment, I might be able
Speaker 4: to get on.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe.
Speaker 3: So here's one to think about when you talk about
Speaker 3: all that. What about if they've already had it and
Speaker 3: they're able to take people of yourselves they were in
Speaker 3: a military or even not in the military. What if
Speaker 3: they were to take people and what you do is
Speaker 3: you go use them, use them in their consciousness and
Speaker 3: their AI. You use them for twenty years, then you
Speaker 3: bring them back. Yep, you ever heard that before?
Speaker 2: I have basically like a cry gentic freezer type of situation,
Speaker 2: and or the conversation of all right, let me upload
Speaker 2: this person's mental faculties and who they are as a person,
Speaker 2: i e. Their consciousness. We're going to upload that into
Speaker 2: a computer, and from the time it takes for this
Speaker 2: person to get from here to Saturn, their physical carbon
Speaker 2: based life form skin suit, their body is going to die.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna clone an exact replica of them so
Speaker 2: that when they wake up from hyper sleep, whenever they
Speaker 2: get there, we'll just plug in their mind into the
Speaker 2: new version of them. It's basically like they they're the
Speaker 2: same person, they didn't age any time, but in reality,
Speaker 2: the new body is a clone. I've heard this going
Speaker 2: so many different directions. Honestly, who's to say.
Speaker 1: But the problem is right now from the technology that
Speaker 1: I've read so far when it comes to cloning of
Speaker 1: the cells, is that even it's so actually, and I
Speaker 1: know I bring up Elan a lot, but like this
Speaker 1: actually was a conversation a several weeks ago on the
Speaker 1: World Economic Form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he broke.
Speaker 1: This down in different areas.
Speaker 4: He said that, look like we are going to get
Speaker 4: to a point where we can upload human consciousness, but
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be the same, like it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a little bit a variant of you.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna have a little.
Speaker 4: Bit of missing missing pieces along the way, but like
Speaker 4: mostly it will be you.
Speaker 2: It's like Joseph Smith the first time he in the
Speaker 2: Book of Mormon versus the second time. It's not the
Speaker 2: same thing. But there's some missing pieces, yeah, a little
Speaker 2: one or two.
Speaker 4: But then I looked into the actual information about like
Speaker 4: cells and what they have right now.
Speaker 1: So they can clone cells, and they can clone a
Speaker 1: lot of things.
Speaker 4: There is specific things that they can't fully clone. So
Speaker 4: like you're like a ninety five percenter, right, Like they
Speaker 4: can ninety five percent, but like there's that five percent
Speaker 4: that's a great area of can't really can't really get
Speaker 4: that part yet.
Speaker 3: So here when you start talking about things like that, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's use some different terminology. So if you're a Christian,
Speaker 3: we believe that we're made up of a body, a spirit,
Speaker 3: and a soul. Right you follow me? You win me?
Speaker 3: So far? Raving yep? Okay, okay, So three things body, fields, body, spirit,
Speaker 3: and soul. What if we could just take our spirit
Speaker 3: and our soul, which is your consciousness, okay, and you
Speaker 3: can move that along and say you send me out
Speaker 3: to war and I get killed or something like that. Well,
Speaker 3: I still owe this guy twenty years. So what I
Speaker 3: do is I bring him back again the spirit and soul.
Speaker 3: I put it back in his body another body. Then
Speaker 3: he gets to live his life again.
Speaker 2: That's all possibility, honestly.
Speaker 3: Because they have figured out. They figured out how to
Speaker 3: do the body, spirit, and soul three things. So I've
Speaker 3: had an experience before where I was used by some
Speaker 3: aliens and I asked him why did you use me?
Speaker 3: And he said, because you have a spirit and the soul.
Speaker 3: They didn't give a rats ask about my body, you
Speaker 3: follow me. They only they only wanted to use me
Speaker 3: because of my spirit, my soul, which is what you
Speaker 3: call your consciousness. Sure, so think about the same thing,
Speaker 3: about the same thing and what you're talking about, and
Speaker 3: think of what the possibilities are. You would take that person,
Speaker 3: You would bring their spot, the spirit and the soul
Speaker 3: back again. And you say, say, Jacob, you look at
Speaker 3: yourself when you went back in the military, right, and
Speaker 3: they sent you out and they used you for twenty
Speaker 3: years or whatever however long years whatever, and they able
Speaker 3: to come back and clone you and bring your spirit
Speaker 3: and your soul and put it back in your body again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you never know. You've never known. You went on all
Speaker 3: those missions and did all that stuff. Sure you know
Speaker 3: why because they came back and they put you back
Speaker 3: in your body. Wow, but they were able to take
Speaker 3: your spirit and soul out of your body.
Speaker 2: It's mind blowing shit that they're actually trying to do.
Speaker 2: As far as the technology.
Speaker 3: In a Bible, that's all there, no doubt, we just
Speaker 3: read it differently.
Speaker 2: But the way that the tech gurus are trying to
Speaker 2: tackle these problems now, they're not just looking at it
Speaker 2: for the technological side of it. They're not just looking
Speaker 2: at it from the human consciousness side of it. They're
Speaker 2: looking at it from a transhumanism side of things, to
Speaker 2: where it's the blending of the spiritual and the technological
Speaker 2: into what they deemed to be the next evolution of humanity. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: anybody with a brainstem functioning sees this as, oh, so
Speaker 2: this is where humanity stops got you.
Speaker 4: I don't think that they can replicate a soul. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be really honest. I think that they can replicate
Speaker 4: a spirit, a consciousness.
Speaker 1: I don't think the soul aspect is what they can capture.
Speaker 2: But I mean then we're going to get into a
Speaker 2: whole philosophical conversation about what is the soul versus what
Speaker 2: the soul is not, and that that goes into a
Speaker 2: whole other conversation. We should be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole another.
Speaker 2: Different We don't have this one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah we'll get Yeah, we'll get back to the
Speaker 3: to the big for the dog man thing. Not to
Speaker 3: mention all the other stuff that's out there, you.
Speaker 4: Know, but that also please And though are these actual?
Speaker 4: Do they have spirits? Do they have souls? Are they
Speaker 4: you know, are they the same as us? Are they
Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of people think that there
Speaker 4: some of them are just mindless creatures of some type.
Speaker 4: I don't believe so, I mean, if they really do exist,
Speaker 4: I believe that they obviously have a.
Speaker 1: Lot more technology than we do.
Speaker 4: They obviously are more I wouldn't. Yeah, I mean technology,
Speaker 4: I'm assuming I mean at least some type of technology
Speaker 4: to be able to be interdimensional and to be able
Speaker 4: to be evading us as people like, realistically, we should
Speaker 4: have everything should be They should be plastered on every
Speaker 4: single billboard everywhere, period photos pictures.
Speaker 1: Videos, and all of this. With our technology, we should
Speaker 1: be able to have all of this.
Speaker 4: At some point they have some type of They at
Speaker 4: least have the same intellect as us to be able
Speaker 4: to avoid being seen.
Speaker 1: They have to have something.
Speaker 2: But intellect does not instantaneously mean technology. Right. It's like
Speaker 2: the chameleon can blend in very well to the jungle.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have advanced tech. That's just like a thing
Speaker 2: that it can do for survival instincts. We have multiple
Speaker 2: animals that are experts of camouflage now talking about how
Speaker 2: they can themselves because that's what they do.
Speaker 4: First off, the predator actually had like an actual cloaking
Speaker 4: mechanism that he built in he was.
Speaker 2: An alien, and that was that's a movie. That's a movie.
Speaker 1: You don't come at me with Predator. I am a
Speaker 1: Predator fan.
Speaker 2: But my point is we're comparing is it possible here?
Speaker 2: And I don't know this with any kind of certainty.
Speaker 2: I'm asking is it possible? The same way that an
Speaker 2: alligator looks like a log until it starts moving towards you.
Speaker 2: It's not got some sort of advanced tech to make
Speaker 2: it look like a log. That's just what it looks
Speaker 2: like because of camouflage, and that's evolutionarily speaking, that's how
Speaker 2: it got there.
Speaker 1: But they would have messed up by this point.
Speaker 4: How you're talking hundreds of years of people having quote
Speaker 4: unquote interactions they would have had at this point with
Speaker 4: all of our technology, they would have messed up.
Speaker 1: They should have messed up.
Speaker 4: You have people, you have considered groups of people going
Speaker 4: out to force all across America, all across the world
Speaker 4: hunting them, so would have.
Speaker 2: Messed up by now. The dragons would have messed up
Speaker 2: by now, All.
Speaker 1: Of them would have messed up by now. Obviously.
Speaker 4: But if they're interdimensional and they are moving shifting through
Speaker 4: things and we're not able to see them, they very
Speaker 4: well have higher technology than we do. Including and my
Speaker 4: point will stand is the technology that just came out
Speaker 4: about Stone Hinge, and that the original creators of Stone
Speaker 4: Hinge were far more technology advanced than we are as people.
Speaker 4: And you watched it go down as the different stones
Speaker 4: were placed. It's not just one thing, it's multiple sectors
Speaker 4: of things as happened.
Speaker 2: What do you mean they didn't have like laser cutting tools,
Speaker 2: they didn't have that, Like when you say technology to
Speaker 2: what level do we mean.
Speaker 4: That we can't even replicate what they did during that time.
Speaker 4: So AI took the entirety of stone Hinge where so
Speaker 4: it broke it down into so many different factors.
Speaker 1: And I really want to do an episode on this,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to like go super into detail,
Speaker 1: but pretty much.
Speaker 4: What it did was it showed that the grooves and
Speaker 4: the marks and the cuts and every single stone you
Speaker 4: saw how the original stones versus the last ones set
Speaker 4: they lost some type of technology along the way, like
Speaker 4: they got dumber as they got went on, like in
Speaker 4: the angles and everything it matched the certain like there's
Speaker 4: a whole bunch to it.
Speaker 1: I'll break it all down, but.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to talk about it because there's that
Speaker 2: one guy in England that's showing how like how to
Speaker 2: cut massive stones, how to move massive stones by himself
Speaker 2: with no advanced tech stone age technology.
Speaker 4: No, even the most advanced people in their fields cannot
Speaker 4: replicate what the original stones were.
Speaker 2: Again an episode only.
Speaker 4: I just proved it, like just did a few days ago.
Speaker 4: I watched like ten different things on it. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: But what my point standso is that you're saying that
Speaker 4: Bigfoot doesn't have any technology. They should have some type
Speaker 4: of technology, especially if he's experience so many of them
Speaker 4: that have gone all like he consistently sees them. But
Speaker 4: they're not being caught by other people. They're not being
Speaker 4: you know, drug out, they're not being hunted down, they're
Speaker 4: not being captured, they're not being shot down.
Speaker 1: All of these things.
Speaker 4: They have to have some type of tech to hide
Speaker 4: them at least maybe.
Speaker 3: All right, I sent you two more pictures I've actually
Speaker 3: seen three. One is the footprint that was outside my house.
Speaker 3: The other two are of a cloaking bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Just footprint.
Speaker 2: I see the footprint trying.
Speaker 3: To see how it's wide though it's small, but it's wide.
Speaker 3: It's just it's way bigger than our foot feet or art,
Speaker 3: which is funny. I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'ma I'm gonna try to pull them over so
Speaker 2: I could open them up without uh. And I apologize
Speaker 2: for everybody listening here. Every time I share my screen,
Speaker 2: I gotta stop my audio and do this whole thing.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying my best to make it work here.
Speaker 2: So let me go ahead and share. Hold up, Okay,
Speaker 2: so what is this now?
Speaker 3: Okay? So what I was doing was I was actually
Speaker 3: taking the video of my land. And you can kind
Speaker 3: of see if you look at the picture, you don't
Speaker 3: see part of the picture is fuzzy and part of
Speaker 3: it's clear. Now I want y'all to look at the
Speaker 3: picture and you tell me which part of the which
Speaker 3: which part of this picture is fuzzy, which part is clear?
Speaker 3: And I'm okay. And if you can't find, if y'all
Speaker 3: can't see, I'm gonna tell you. But this is a
Speaker 3: this is a well you got back back out again
Speaker 3: and see it's big. It's really big. And what it
Speaker 3: was is basically on the left hand side, it's the
Speaker 3: picture is kind of fuzzy up in there like it's cloaking, okay,
Speaker 3: And that is where So what happened was is I
Speaker 3: was taking a picture or taking a video, and what
Speaker 3: I did was was scanning across. And when I did
Speaker 3: my the front of my iPhone quote working the camera
Speaker 3: on the quote working, I was like, son of a gun,
Speaker 3: what they zap my phone? That's what they do is
Speaker 3: when they when they do something to your phone, they
Speaker 3: zap it. Okay, And that thing is right up and
Speaker 3: here is where it's at. Where you're where we're at.
Speaker 3: But you see how the the the if you look
Speaker 3: at the pictures, a part of the picture right in
Speaker 3: there is kind of fuzzy looking it. It looks just
Speaker 3: out of focus. In other words, now go to the
Speaker 3: go to the second one. I sent you another picture
Speaker 3: and you'll see a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and do that once again. Cult members,
Speaker 2: if you want to see the images that we are
Speaker 2: talking about, then you need to go to Patreon dot com,
Speaker 2: slash cult to Conspiracy Podcast and you'll be able to
Speaker 2: see this for yourself. Oh, actually, this is a footprint,
Speaker 2: which that's.
Speaker 3: When I'm outside of my house. Now you can see
Speaker 3: the shape of its weird shape.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it looks like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't know. It's just a weird, short,
Speaker 3: wide footprint. And I'm like, what in the hell, you know,
Speaker 3: what is this thing right here? And I told my
Speaker 3: wife now that that thing was deep inside the dirt
Speaker 3: there too. And you see it now that's real clear.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the portion of it's clear. The rest
Speaker 2: of it is dark or.
Speaker 3: Blurred, right, Okay, can you see how it's kind of
Speaker 3: distorted in its movement to it? Yeah, that that is
Speaker 3: actually what a cloak bigfoot will look like. And it's
Speaker 3: running in front of me. It moved in front of
Speaker 3: me at that point, and you can see how it
Speaker 3: distorted the picture and distorted time and everything else. Wow,
Speaker 3: And that's it's that's what they look like.
Speaker 2: So you you've seen this on your trail cams because
Speaker 2: you said you've got pictures of the Bigfoot of the
Speaker 2: sand squatch on trail cams. Now, is this what you're
Speaker 2: catching on the trail cams or are you catching images
Speaker 2: that would look more akin to the footage that have
Speaker 2: been seen of the Bigfoot?
Speaker 3: Know, the things that we're getting on are you can
Speaker 3: actually see them, you know, see part of them, but
Speaker 3: it it's it's like a silhouette. You can see through them.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? There? Again, you'll see the eyes,
Speaker 3: you'll see the head like you're looking at me right now.
Speaker 3: But what you're gonna see is you're gonna see through me,
Speaker 3: like you'll be able to see the wall behind me, Okay,
Speaker 3: And that's where they come up. They look like that
Speaker 3: when you look at them at night, or they're just
Speaker 3: a solid dark figure. Wow, that's what they look like
Speaker 3: like shadows at night? Yeah, Like I tell people anytime
Speaker 3: you want to go come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this past we open invitation to go camping
Speaker 2: on his land and go meet the Sasquatch.
Speaker 3: And I do have a nice camp or too really nice.
Speaker 2: Come down.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing in a lot of guns.
Speaker 3: That's my only rule. This is my my one and
Speaker 3: only rule. No guns.
Speaker 1: Nope, you lost right there.
Speaker 3: No, We're just gonna sit in the lawn chair. And
Speaker 3: what we do is wait tonight. And that's why I'm
Speaker 3: trying to do it. When it's cool, like right now,
Speaker 3: when it's cold, go up there, build you a fire.
Speaker 3: We just have a normal conversation. We're talking. Let them
Speaker 3: come aroun and once they come around, I go inside
Speaker 3: the camper. I cut off the porch lights and then
Speaker 3: it's just the moonlight and the stars and the fire.
Speaker 3: And then I start pointing y'all towards certain directions of
Speaker 3: where they are, and I'll tell you what to look for.
Speaker 3: And what you're gonna look for is a dim, dim
Speaker 3: light in the woods, and that's their eyes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, this is the same kind of conversation I've
Speaker 4: had with other people about paranormal things. Is that I
Speaker 4: was taught long ago not to mess with things for
Speaker 4: certain reasons.
Speaker 3: And like I am, I am not sitting here today.
Speaker 3: They don't bother you. I'm telling you, they don't come
Speaker 3: out of the woods and try to grab you and
Speaker 3: bring in the woods. And you've been watching too many
Speaker 3: horror movies.
Speaker 1: I do love some horror movies.
Speaker 4: I will say I'm definitely a horror movie fanatic, but
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Eat this past. This past weekend or the weekend before last.
Speaker 3: It was two weekends ago. Had a film crew come
Speaker 3: up from Baton Rouge and we filmed a documentary and
Speaker 3: they were very, very skeptical until the last night. So
Speaker 3: the last night I told him, I said, okay, let's
Speaker 3: start putting it to the test. And I said, we
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. Friday night said, Friday, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: let y'all do anything. We're just gonna go and kind
Speaker 3: of get a let them get acquainted to you, you know,
Speaker 3: let them, uh just fill you out and everything. And
Speaker 3: so we went and shot a bunch of things and
Speaker 3: on the in the woods and everything, shot some scenes,
Speaker 3: we talked about some stuff, and we came back in
Speaker 3: and they started kind of like what you're doing right now?
Speaker 3: They did some interview with me and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and so I told him, I said, okay, let's get
Speaker 3: it on now.
Speaker 2: So I get choked on talking about.
Speaker 3: Good But what's what's hilarious is I said, okay, whistle.
Speaker 3: I can't whistle aloud. So this guy whistles really loud
Speaker 3: and long. Right after that, he got another whistle in
Speaker 3: the woods right across right across the road from us.
Speaker 3: After that, we got a tree knocking in the woods
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, And I said, start doing a annoise
Speaker 3: with your tongue like that too. Do that and see
Speaker 3: what happens. Okay, So that's what you do.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So then right after that we were standing there and
Speaker 3: there was three of us there and the whole time
Speaker 3: he's got the cameras running everything. Okay, he's got it.
Speaker 3: He says, Oh man, something just ran on our sideups
Speaker 3: right here. I said, yep, I said, that's him. They say,
Speaker 3: probably cloaking or something. And I said, okay, let's go
Speaker 3: sit in the chairs and just be still. So we
Speaker 3: sit in the chairs. I said, but I want you
Speaker 3: all to we have a I guess, like a little ravine.
Speaker 3: It goes down through the bottom down. Here's two creaks
Speaker 3: in it. It's the bottom. I just call it. We
Speaker 3: just called the bottoms what we call it. So I
Speaker 3: told him, I said, I hear him moving over there,
Speaker 3: and I said, I'll tell you what you do. Let's
Speaker 3: cut off all the porch lights. So we cut off
Speaker 3: all the porch lights when they had the little fire
Speaker 3: going there, and uh, I started pointing out to him
Speaker 3: and said, you see over there with my My cousin
Speaker 3: has a house a couple of hills over and she
Speaker 3: does have some lights on her porch and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But those lights are yellow. M you know, the street
Speaker 3: light looks like right, I can work the outside light.
Speaker 3: These eyes. When you look at these eyes, they actually
Speaker 3: look like a raven. They look like your glasses you
Speaker 3: have on. Now they look blue light. Yeah, I said,
Speaker 3: y'all start, I start looking at the woods and said
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you. I said, look, those those lights
Speaker 3: are a little bit higher. But I said, all right,
Speaker 3: start looking down. I said, now do you see them?
Speaker 3: They're very very dim lit. But I said, what they
Speaker 3: look like is a kaleidoscope. Then also they said, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: those are moving over there. So they've seen some white
Speaker 3: ones and they've seen some blue ones. Wow, and that
Speaker 3: that and that made them guys totally. That made him
Speaker 3: give that. It gave him something to think about.
Speaker 2: So when is this documentary coming out?
Speaker 3: Don't know yet. We're still in the process of getting
Speaker 3: it all together and everything. And when it does come out,
Speaker 3: I'll let you know the name of it and everything else.
Speaker 3: I don't think they even have a name. I tried
Speaker 3: to give him a name. What I would like to
Speaker 3: have a name, but it's not my documentary's there is
Speaker 3: you know, it's going to be. It's going to be
Speaker 3: me talking and it's going to be they're gonna try
Speaker 3: to sell it to Prime. Who else is doing to
Speaker 3: b It's a couple of the places, Peacock, some of
Speaker 3: the things like that. Sure, I think I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to sell it. But it's going to be a documenty
Speaker 3: slash movie. That's what it's going to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited to see it when it does
Speaker 2: come out, and oh yeah, good cult members. We are
Speaker 2: going to keep all of you in the loop on
Speaker 2: the situation with this documentary as soon as you find
Speaker 2: out the name, where it's coming out, what it's just
Speaker 2: the stuff And I don't know if that's going to
Speaker 2: be in two months, six months before the end of
Speaker 2: the year. I mean that depends. We've had certain documentary
Speaker 2: documentaryists I don't know the name the people that make
Speaker 2: the documentaries. We've had. Some of these people have a
Speaker 2: turnaround time. If they started and within three months it's done, edited,
Speaker 2: it's out. Some of these people it takes them a
Speaker 2: few years to compile all the stories and all the
Speaker 2: witnesses and all the stuff and then make a documentary. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, who's to say one way or another.
Speaker 3: But so the the documentary I've done is called a
Speaker 3: Cult Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Who is that with Chris Matthews Chris, Yes, yes, dude,
Speaker 2: a homie of the show exactly.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Chris came down, and you know, he's originally
Speaker 3: from Hama, Louisiana, and so he came over and him
Speaker 3: and his wife, Now we did we shot some things
Speaker 3: and everything, and so we talked for a while and
Speaker 3: then they went back to where they're from now in Colorado. Anyways,
Speaker 3: that that's a a good part of it is my story.
Speaker 3: And then it talks about other things here about how
Speaker 3: they had the the Native Americans. Here are the ones
Speaker 3: that's up there in Mount pleasant Is that's the name
Speaker 3: of it. It's up there in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's where the Htalls believe their tribe came from.
Speaker 2: Is from the right.
Speaker 3: From thisation in America. Yeah, so that's that's one spot
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 2: And them that owns that land is such an asshole
Speaker 2: that really, this Native American tribe, they want to come
Speaker 2: to this mound to do just their traditional tribal ceremonies,
Speaker 2: and this one farmer that owns it has basically said,
Speaker 2: if I see you on my land, I'll kill you
Speaker 2: to the entirety of the Choctaw tribe. And it's like,
Speaker 2: you could make this a UNESCO World Heritage Site and
Speaker 2: make bookoo money off of it, but you're just not
Speaker 2: allowing it because you're you're being a dick. Honestly, it's
Speaker 2: a whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But anyways, if you if you go check it
Speaker 3: out right now, it's playing on tub has been there
Speaker 3: for a while. For some reason, Prime dropped it. I
Speaker 3: think it has a lot to do with a probably
Speaker 3: my situation where I talk about the Dogman and the
Speaker 3: big Foot and all that, which a lot of people
Speaker 3: don't care for all that right, and I've seen them
Speaker 3: seeing them together. I think that's some of it. But anyways,
Speaker 3: it is playing on tub right now and you can
Speaker 3: get it there, absolutely, And it talks a couple of
Speaker 3: quite a few different things about Louisiana and goes into
Speaker 3: some voodoo things and some other things that they have
Speaker 3: in New Orleans and stuff like that. But it's a
Speaker 3: really a good it's a good documentary. Go check it
Speaker 3: out and you're gonna see my story. Plus it goes
Speaker 3: to a little bit more, which I talked about some
Speaker 3: experiences I've had with some alien type things before too,
Speaker 3: and so all of this stuff happened after twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff happened to me after that. So
Speaker 3: that's why I believe that all these things are tied
Speaker 3: in together, which is the Bigfoot, the dog Man, all
Speaker 3: these cryptids, and I believe the alien activities tied into
Speaker 3: it too.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Scott. We appreciate you coming on the Cold Conspiracy
Speaker 2: this evening. For all the good cult members that would
Speaker 2: like to find any of your content, your social media's,
Speaker 2: whatever the case is, give yourself all the shameless plugs.
Speaker 2: Where can the good cult members find you?
Speaker 3: Okay, the first thing is. Of course you can. You
Speaker 3: can go find me on my documentary I did with
Speaker 3: Chris Matthew and that is a cult Louisiana. The second
Speaker 3: thing is I do have a Facebook page you can
Speaker 3: go to and it is actually called Kasachie Forest, Bigfoot
Speaker 3: and dog Men, and you have to put your picture
Speaker 3: on there. You have to answer all the questions or
Speaker 3: you won't get let in. I'm very serious about this
Speaker 3: group and I want people to have a safe place
Speaker 3: to come and talk and to share their experiences. And
Speaker 3: so once you get in and you're able to share
Speaker 3: your experiences, you can talk about all that stuff, but
Speaker 3: also share pictures that you have too, and a lot
Speaker 3: of loyal members in there, a lot of people who
Speaker 3: do not talk about their experiences. They are still scared
Speaker 3: to talk about them. But you'll have a lot of
Speaker 3: things that you'll see in there that people actually download
Speaker 3: a lot of their pictures and stuff in there. And
Speaker 3: that's on Facebook and it's called Kasachi Forest, Bigfoot and
Speaker 3: dog Men. I'm kind of debating right now since I'm
Speaker 3: semi retired now as I'm thinking about maybe even doing
Speaker 3: a YouTube channel. I haven't got there yet, and I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about it I'm thinking, I'm thinking really hard. So
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that that's one thing I might get into
Speaker 3: and then start sharing my experiences and talk about my
Speaker 3: experiences too on there and then actually go out in
Speaker 3: the woods. And you know, what's what's really incredible is
Speaker 3: is to tell people like where we live at here
Speaker 3: in Louisiana, how close they are. And so I know
Speaker 3: of where we live at or two different clans and
Speaker 3: they're on just right close to us. They're not for
Speaker 3: it all and that's that's what's incredible. And I'll tell
Speaker 3: y'all later where they are, but they're that's they're they're
Speaker 3: here in Louisiana and they're very very close the dog
Speaker 3: men me and my telling you about that raven earlier.
Speaker 3: If you want to find some of the dog man
Speaker 3: just go yeah, yeah, well we we want you to experience.
Speaker 3: So I want you to see that that's really neat.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: We'll so go fishing at night, go do your saltwater fishing.
Speaker 3: And when you go fishing or boat fishing at night
Speaker 3: for fish, go down to the marshes Louisiana, that's where
Speaker 3: you're going to find them.
Speaker 2: At Damn once again, Yah, you're all absolute legend. We
Speaker 2: cannot wait to have you back on the show here
Speaker 2: soon to talk more about these things. All the good
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Speaker 2: we will keep y'all posted on when this new documentary
Speaker 2: drops the name of it where you can find it
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