WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, the 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:08.359 House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Hey, 3 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:11.439 welcome to home, where every week we help you better 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.720 understand that place where you live. I am Dean Sharp, 5 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.920 the house Whisperer, here with you live like I am 6 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.760 every weekend, Saturday mornings from six to eight Pacific time, 7 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:27.280 Sunday mornings nine to noon Pacific time. I am so 8 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.679 grateful that you are with us. Truly, truly, I understand 9 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.399 how important weekends are. My weekend is important too, and 10 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:40.079 so to think that you've cut out some time to 11 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.759 actually spend some time with me talking about your home, 12 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.880 as important as it is, we don't take those things 13 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.520 for granted. We appreciate that you are here with us. 14 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.840 We're actually talking about something really practical, especially leading to 15 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.159 the holidays. A decor issue today, and that is how 16 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.799 to hang stuff on your walls, the kind of walls 17 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.359 that you've got, the kind of hardware that you can use. 18 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.319 So it's a very light kind of decor and decorator day, 19 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:07.879 but a very important one because a lot of people 20 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.159 get it wrong. There's a lot of walls out there 21 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:15.439 with holes and battle scars from improper hanging, and a 22 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.239 lot of walls without those scars where things are just 23 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:23.680 not hung right. Doesn't look good at all. So I'm 24 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.480 trying to help you through it all today. We're going 25 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.079 to return to that conversation in just a bit. But also, 26 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.879 as we do every show, we're taking calls. The number 27 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.000 to reach me eight three to three two. Ask Dean 28 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:39.760 eight three three the numeral two. Ask Dean eight three 29 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:43.120 three two ask Dean. Producer Richie's standing by. He's ready 30 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:44.760 to tell you everything you need to know. He'll take 31 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:47.120 your call, pop you into the queue, and then you 32 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:48.959 and I we can put our heads together figure out 33 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.079 what's going on with your home. I want to go 34 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.560 back to the phones right now. Let's talk to Let's 35 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:57.200 talk to Chris. Hey, Chris, welcome home. 36 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:03.840 Hello, I'm the model. Yes, can you hear me? 37 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:06.879 Okay, yeah, yeah, I got you, but great. 38 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:11.639 I'm modeling a small second four bathroom and a cast 39 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.199 iron tub would just be too difficult to put in, 40 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:19.360 and I am looking for a recommendation on a crylic 41 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:26.360 or steel tub, and also looking at putting a heated 42 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:26.719 floor in. 43 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:30.680 I thinking about putting a heated floor in as well, okay, 44 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.479 cast iron is too difficult to put in because of access, 45 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:39.639 because of its weight, all of the above correct. Okay. 46 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:43.039 The only reason I say that is begin and I 47 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.840 assume maybe this is something Chris, are you guys di 48 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:48.479 ying this one? And that's why the cast iron is 49 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.000 too much, because you know, if you've got somebody else 50 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.759 doing it, you know, just them, I either think. 51 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.319 They can get it in there. It's a small bathroom. 52 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:02.039 It has a two foot four door, and then it's 53 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:06.360 a typical five foot across and there's also the poya 54 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:11.439 in that same area, so that's maybe five foot deep 55 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:14.960 or maybe five and a half feet deep, So there's 56 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.919 very little room in there too. Muscle that in there 57 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:20.520 and getting it up the stairway and then around note 58 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:22.000 a hallway is difficult as well. 59 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.680 Yeah, it's difficult, no doubt, no doubt. All Right, So anyway, 60 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:27.759 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be labor the point, 61 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:32.280 but I'm gonna say, of all tubs as far as 62 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:37.120 long term durability and usefulness for a holme, when we're 63 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.759 just talking about a standard tub, not some fancy you know, 64 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:45.479 jetted this that freestanding so on, we default to cast 65 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.479 iron and difficult. Yes. Will it fit in there, yes 66 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:51.439 it will. Can it fit in there, yes it will. 67 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.120 Will it get through a two foot four door, Absolutely 68 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.759 it will because it can be held on its side 69 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:03.199 because it's only about seventeen inches, so it's only seventeen 70 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.560 inches wide going that way. Is it a hassle, yes, 71 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:10.520 But once it's done, it will literally outlast the rest 72 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.319 of the house. When the rest of your house has 73 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:16.439 composted into the soil, what will remain cast iron tip 74 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.480 liitting there in the empty field. So anyway, just to 75 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.319 say that, so it's not the only option. Though you 76 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:27.800 had mentioned steel and or acrylic, which is sometimes also 77 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.920 referred to as a resin tub. So if I'm defaulting 78 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:35.680 to one of those two, I will clearly, unequivocally tell 79 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.720 you go with the acrylic and resin tub and just 80 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.639 treat it well as far as it's surface. Don't clean 81 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:48.000 it with abrasive pads or anything like that so that 82 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:52.399 you scratch and mar the surface, but don't go with 83 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:56.720 the steel tub. Dean is not a fan of steel tubs, 84 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:01.639 and here is why a steel tub coated in porcelain 85 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:08.600 enamel is in fact the intent of a steel tub 86 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:14.600 is to simulate inexpensively a cast iron tub where the 87 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.639 cast iron is coated in porcelain or enamel. And people 88 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.399 ask me all the time, well, it's still the same surface, 89 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.319 sting on the you know, on they look as good 90 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.720 on the surface, right, Yes they do. Is it the 91 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.360 same porcelain enamel? Yes it is. And so why don't 92 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.199 you like the steel tub? Because the reason a cast 93 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.439 iron tub lasts as long as it is, and the 94 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:38.399 reason it's as heavy as it is is that the 95 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:43.199 cast iron is thick and it is immovable and inflexible, 96 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:48.079 and so coating a tub like that in porcelain enamel 97 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.519 not a problem because that tub will never flex or 98 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:57.759 bend or move because porcelain enamel, as strong as it is, 99 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:02.560 is not flexible. It's not a flexible material. It's like, 100 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.439 you know, the enamel on your teeth. It's super strong, 101 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.000 but it doesn't bend, and when it is forced to bend, 102 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.839 then it chips and cracks. And this is the absolute, 103 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:20.480 without question, fate, destined fate of all steel tubs. The 104 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:26.079 only problem is the steel surface is too large and 105 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.759 too flexible. If you can push it in with your knee, 106 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.120 if you can get any flex out of it whatsoever. 107 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:35.079 Over an extended period of time, that flexion will in 108 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.399 fact crack the enamel and you get these little pit 109 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.959 or pock marks in it where whole chunks come out 110 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.639 and so on. So, if I have a choice, and 111 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.079 I'm not going with the cast iron, which I would 112 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.439 still encourage you to have your builders, you know, pony 113 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.000 up and get it done. Go with the resin, the 114 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:56.199 resin and or acrylic tub. It's nice and thick, it's 115 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:00.839 all one element. Its downside is it's not quite as 116 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:05.759 shiny and as bulletproof on the surface for cleaning, so 117 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.279 you just have to treat it a little bit more tenderly. 118 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.399 But you also get a lot of color choices out 119 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.839 of the resin tubs, and if they're treated well, they 120 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:19.160 can last for decades as well. And they will not 121 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.319 a good resin tub, not a thin little fiberglass walled tub, 122 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.480 but a good resin and or acrylic tub will also 123 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.079 stand the test of time because without the cracks and 124 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:35.439 the pits, because it is thick enough and innately flexible 125 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.439 enough to withstand that kind of weight and water and 126 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:41.639 stepping in and out and so on. Does that make sense? 127 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:48.120 Yes, And I had noticed online a well known manufacturer 128 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:52.959 we have been considering had really bad reviews out they're 129 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.920 acrylic tub and it's a leave of fiberglass with the 130 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:02.560 gail coat over it crylic and that they said it's cracked, 131 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.439 got cracks in the corners, which who wants that in 132 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:12.240 a tub that's been tiled in. Very difficult to decide 133 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.240 on what kind of acrylic tub or what manufacturer would 134 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:15.639 be best. 135 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.920 Yeah, well, this is the situation where you trust the reviews. Okay, 136 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.519 trust the reviews, and if you see anything talking about 137 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:27.959 cracking and or that anything in that nature, walk away. 138 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.519 Because again, the key to a tub, the key to 139 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.279 a tub, it's not the surface. It's not how pretty 140 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.799 the gel code is, and this is where it varies. 141 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:42.120 It's how thick the material is underneath it. That's the 142 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:45.480 difference between a cast iron and a steel tub. Both 143 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:49.159 are made out of metal, and one is great, the 144 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:54.200 other is not. And it's the difference between various fiberglass 145 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.679 and acrylic tubs. You want to know that this is 146 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:04.000 a thick, heavy tub because it's understructure is thick enough 147 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:09.039 to not allow excessive flexion, because eventually, eventually, if there's 148 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.960 too much flex, the coatings will crack. That's just the 149 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.799 way it goes. That's why cast iron tubs stand the 150 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.879 test of time. Even one hundred plus year old cast 151 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:25.200 iron tubs that have enamel damage on them, we will 152 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.120 pull them out, take them, have them sand blasted, re enameled, 153 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.919 pop back in, and they're good for another one hundred years. Again. 154 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.960 That's why you know, I was kind of leaning in 155 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.799 that direction anyway, Chris, thank you for your call. I 156 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:39.639 hope that helps. 157 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:40.000 Uh. 158 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.360 It's the thickness of the substructure of the tub that 159 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.759 is key. That's the thing for everybody to know. All right. 160 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.440 When we were should we take another you know I do? 161 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:50.960 I want to take another call when we come back, 162 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:52.759 We're going to take at least one more call, and 163 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.360 then we will return to the subject of hanging stuff 164 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:56.440 on your walls. 165 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:01.519 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp onto me from KFI. 166 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:01.720 A M six? 167 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:08.759 Is that from Sesame Street or The Muppet Show? Is it? 168 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.720 I still sing the song and I still watch the episode, 169 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.799 so but did it though? Yeah? It is? It's a 170 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.279 Muppet because he's because he's kind of a wild guy 171 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.960 and he's got he's got these three background singers who 172 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:28.080 start kicking in with the and then he starts going 173 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.480 off and they get really upset at him. Wow, that's 174 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.840 just lodged into my brain from my Childhood's so good. 175 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.000 That's so good. Oh my gosh, thank you, Jackie, thank you. 176 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:44.759 You're welcome. All right? Uh kfi Dean Sharp the house whisper, 177 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:46.799 at your service. We're just having a good time here 178 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.320 this morning. We're talking about hanging stuff on your walls, 179 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.000 but I'm also taking calls. I want to go back 180 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.000 to the phones. Uh take another call or so if 181 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:57.480 I can, and then we will return to uh getting 182 00:10:57.559 --> 00:10:59.159 stuff hung on your walls properly. 183 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:00.000 Uh. 184 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:03.799 Let's talk to Jeff. Hey, Jeff, welcome home. 185 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:06.600 Good morning, Dane. How are you? 186 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:08.879 I am well, sir. How can I help you? 187 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.120 Well, here's what I got. I have a second home 188 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:17.360 in southern Utah and it is about the homes at 189 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.720 about fifty two hundred feet, so it gets a lot 190 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:25.639 of sun radiation. I have an exterior metal door that's 191 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:30.960 insulated and it has or I should say had like 192 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.559 a manufactured skin on it that's a wood grain. The 193 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.200 door is covered by a storm door that's a glass 194 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:43.480 storm door, and that simulated wood grain is just peeled off. 195 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:47.000 And I don't know if it's from the heat or 196 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.480 the UV light or what it is, but I need 197 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.080 to replace the door, and I'm wondering if I should 198 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.440 just take another crack at the same type of door 199 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:59.600 because it's the next sterior door, or there's something else 200 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.120 I should be considering. Probably not wood, because it gets, 201 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:05.559 like I said, blasted by the sun and heat. 202 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:10.759 So any suggestions, Uh, okay, So all right, So we're 203 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:15.159 up at higher elevation and uh, and it's a lot 204 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:21.279 of UV exposure and it's getting heat and cold throughout 205 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:26.120 the year at that elevation. And also behind a storm door, 206 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.080 a glass storm door, so it's kind of in a 207 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:32.399 little little humid uh, you know, encasement environment as well. 208 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:35.600 Let me ask you this, Okay, the other door had 209 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:42.240 this this you know, resin or fiberglass wood grain coating 210 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:46.440 on it or veneer on it. Is this a critical door? 211 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.480 I mean, is this the front door? Is this is 212 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:51.759 the is the What am I trying to say? Is 213 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.639 the esthetic value of this door so high that we 214 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.519 need to simulate wood on this door? Or can we 215 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.480 just forego the wood and give it a good paint shot. 216 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.879 Well, that's the other issue is it's an exterior door, 217 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:08.559 so the appearances and that critical. But part of it's 218 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:11.039 peeled off and part of it's still on the door, 219 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:13.639 and I try to even scrape off what's on there, 220 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:17.320 and it's just it looks horrible because it's part grain 221 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.440 and part flat and it just it just looks really bad. 222 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.039 So I understand, yeah, I understand that. I understand that 223 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.440 that that that door is probably toast at this point, 224 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:30.279 and I wouldn't even I wouldn't trust it if it 225 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.960 has delaminated on you. So I agree, let's change out 226 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:36.200 the door. But as far as recommending a replacement, if 227 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.919 it's not like a critical esthetic door in which you're 228 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:44.720 saying to me, absolutely I need wood grain looking door 229 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.240 finish here, Dean, then I'm just going to tell you, 230 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:52.600 let's just get a really good, exterior grade, well insulated 231 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:57.080 metal door that is not trying to be anything else, 232 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:01.559 that that only has a a metal ing casement on 233 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.120 the surface, so that you can get it in the 234 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.519 color that you want, or you get it pre primed 235 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.320 and paint it the color that you want, and you 236 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:13.080 just take care of it like any regular painted door. 237 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.759 That kind of thing doesn't have a veneer that's going 238 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:17.679 to peel off. It's not going to be subject to 239 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:21.639 humidity because there are no adhesives involved. There's just a 240 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:25.200 really good metal paint job, maybe even a you know, 241 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:30.240 a shop grade powder coating on it that will stand 242 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.840 the test of time. That's probably what I would recommend 243 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:34.559 to you. So if you're going to change out the door, 244 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.879 don't worry about, you know, trying to match an aesthetic 245 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.960 if the esthetic I mean to me, I'm a designer. 246 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.600 All exterior doors are important on some level, but they're 247 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:49.200 not all important in the same way. So if this 248 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.159 is not the grand entry door to the house, which 249 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.759 it doesn't sound like it is, then let's just pick 250 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.919 an attractive color and let it be the utilitarian door 251 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:02.000 that it needs to be without trying to add this 252 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.320 aesthetic surface to it that might be problematic yet again. 253 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.960 Okay, so if I was to paint the door, you know, 254 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.039 replace it like you said, which is a great recommendation, 255 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.159 Should I use some sort of a metal type. 256 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:22.360 Of paint absolutely to apply on the door? Okay, yep, yeah, absolutely, 257 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.840 You're gonna use a metal a metal based a paint 258 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:29.840 that is for metal surfaces, you know, and something as 259 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:33.320 simple as rustolium, and they make fantastic paints. They've they've 260 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:39.840 built an entire company reputation on on treating metal surfaces 261 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.279 in all sorts of kinds of uh of sexy colors 262 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.759 and finishes, and so something as simple as that properly 263 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.679 masked and properly applied, and you may be able to shop. 264 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.399 When you're shopping for these doors, A lot of manufacturers 265 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.080 are going to ask you right up front, hey, especially 266 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.519 the better manufacturers, They're going to ask you, Hey, what 267 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.720 color would you like the door. Some of them will 268 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.519 give you a selection. This door comes in six colors. 269 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.720 Other manufacturers will say, do you have a color, give 270 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.639 us your color. We'll send this door out, you know, 271 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.519 factory coded, powder coated, just like a car coming out 272 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.120 of the shop with a you know what what, very 273 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.679 well may be a lifetime surface paint job on that door. 274 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:25.759 So I just think that's your your your probably your 275 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:27.840 best bet, Jeff Great. 276 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.879 I really appreciate the advice. Love your show, Dean, and 277 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:32.960 I hope you're doing well. 278 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.159 Take care. We are, thank you, buddy, really appreciate your 279 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:39.320 call and Thanks for listening. Keep on listening. All right, 280 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:45.000 y'all when we return back to hanging stuff inside your house. 281 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.960 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 282 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:50.519 KFI AM six forty. 283 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.320 We just got off taking a few calls. We may 284 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:57.080 be returning to the phone, So if you're on the line, 285 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:01.039 hang tight, Hang tight. That's my goal. That's my goal. 286 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.119 We'll be coming back to the phones in just a bit. 287 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.440 But right now it's time to return to our conversation 288 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:12.200 about hanging stuff on your walls in your home. Let's 289 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.799 see where am i at here in minotes? Oh yeah, 290 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.240 we're up to the actual type of hanger. We've talked 291 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.240 about wall conditions. Knowing your wall condition critical, the weight 292 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.200 of the object that you're going to hang, and the 293 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:28.440 anchor points that you have available in order to hang 294 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:33.000 that object. Now let's talk about hangers. Now, we got 295 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:34.839 to get down and dirty, and this is the stuff 296 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.599 that's going to go on or in or through the wall. 297 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.119 So the classic, we got to start with the classic, 298 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:48.880 the angled nail, right, a finished nail, meaning it a small, 299 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:53.079 small diameter nail, as small as possible given the weight 300 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.839 and size of the object in question. To be hung 301 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.880 an angled nail at a straight into the wall, but 302 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:06.359 at a slight upward angle, tapped carefully into the wall, 303 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.799 and boom, you hang the thing on it and there 304 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:13.240 you go. All right. It's a classic. Better than the 305 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:17.440 angled nail, though, is the angled nail with hook combo, 306 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:19.920 the kind of thing that comes in a picture hanging 307 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:23.119 kit or picture hanging hardware. We've talked about that already. 308 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:30.119 Usually their brass or aluminum looking, and they have a 309 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.400 little fold over at the top, one piece of metal 310 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:34.759 that makes the hook. It's folded up at the bottom, 311 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:37.599 and then in that fold over metal at the top 312 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:40.880 there are two holes, which sets the optimal angle for 313 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:43.640 the nail. You shoot through both of those holes and 314 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.960 tap it in. The advantages that you're tapping on top 315 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:48.880 of this hangar and not on the wall, so you 316 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.119 probably probably not going to hit the wall with your hammer. 317 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.119 And you know, those work just fine for smaller items. 318 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:02.400 Why complicate things if that works well for you? Better yet, though, 319 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.880 if you're going to use the angled nail and hook combo, 320 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:13.200 is a hook with an earthquake tab on it. Okay, 321 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.200 the exact same thing that I just described you Everything 322 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:19.240 is the same except with the addition of a tiny 323 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:25.119 little flexible piece of spring metal that has been placed 324 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.440 on top of the hook, so that you have to 325 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:32.559 actually clip in the picture of the painting or the wire, 326 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:36.079 whatever it is that it's hooking onto. The advantage there 327 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:39.440 being that if the especially here in southern California, if 328 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.400 the wall begins to bounce or shake and it can't 329 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:46.759 actually it doesn't have the freedom to shake itself off 330 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:50.240 the hook, that tiny little tab of metal can make 331 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:53.119 all the difference in preserving something on the wall. And 332 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.720 if you live in socaw now across the country, you've 333 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.359 got to consider other things. Wind that kind of stuff, 334 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:01.359 you know, rush through the house if you've got the 335 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.880 windows open, and so on. But generally speaking, if you 336 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:09.640 can include that safety tab, it's never a bad idea 337 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.720 in order to kind of lock things in place. If 338 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.319 you don't have that option, you can use the trick 339 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.359 that I mentioned earlier, which is a tiny bit of 340 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:23.240 adhesive backed velcrow which you can get at the hardware store. 341 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:27.759 Stick one side of it to the bottom of the picture, 342 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:31.039 and then peel off the adhesive and get ready to 343 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.839 stick it onto the wall, and then you know, hang 344 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.480 it as you would on the nail or the hook, 345 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.640 and then press the bottom with that velcrow against the wall. 346 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.079 Keep it away from the edge so you don't see it. 347 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:46.079 We don't want to see that fuzzy little thing, but 348 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:47.960 just a little bit in from the edge so we 349 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.759 don't see it. Push that onto the wall and it 350 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:54.599 holds the bottom. Now, I mentioned it earlier as a 351 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:58.720 technique for keeping something level so that even banging on 352 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.039 the wall or somebody slamming a door doesn't throw it 353 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:04.039 out of level. That's one of the uses of these 354 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.000 little velcrow tabs. But the other use is just the 355 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:11.000 fact that you've got the other end of the item anchored, 356 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.160 even with something as simple as a tiny little bit 357 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.039 of velcrow. If the wall starts bouncing, it doesn't have 358 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:21.200 the freedom to bounce up high enough to get off 359 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:24.759 the nail. So it's also an earthquake support as well, 360 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:27.599 if that makes sense. Okay, so we move away from 361 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.440 the angled nail and we go on to one of 362 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.359 my classics, which is, instead of the angled nail, if 363 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:38.680 all else fails, a coarse threaded dry wall screw. Now 364 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:43.279 it sounds uncouth like. It's not a fancy it's not 365 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:49.799 an official picture hanger whatsoever. But you know what, when 366 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:51.480 you have to make do, you have to make do. 367 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:53.880 And if you were to give me the choice of, hey, 368 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.440 I've got this finished nail, dean, or I've got a 369 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.440 coarse thread drywall screw, I'm picking the drywall screw every 370 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.839 day of the week. Why because the coarse threads bite 371 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.720 into the drywall nicely. Okay. Number two, it's just as strong, 372 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.119 if not stronger, than a nail. Number three, it's got 373 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.160 a nice little head on it to hold the wire 374 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:19.200 and or the bracket on better than just the tiny 375 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.200 head of a finished nail, which doesn't have much to 376 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.200 retain it on as you're pulling it off. So there 377 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.240 you go. You can always settle for a coarse thread 378 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:33.039 drywall screw. And no, even though it looks significantly thicker 379 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.079 than a finished nail, it's surprising what a small hole 380 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.119 it leaves in drywall along the way. Now, when it 381 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:43.839 comes to drywall, let me be very clear. This next 382 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:47.240 thing is something that way too many people buy, way 383 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.200 too many hardware stores recommend, and I don't want you 384 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:56.240 to use it. The expansion anchor. Okay. An expansion anchor 385 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.440 is one of those little multicolored, come in different colors, 386 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:04.160 and sleeve, a little plastic sleeve that you're supposed to 387 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:07.200 stick into the wall, a little drywall. You just stick 388 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:08.799 it in. Some of them even come with their own 389 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.480 little barbed points and they're like, it's so easy, just 390 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.240 stick it into the wall. And then you're supposed to 391 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.400 be able to screw a screw into it. Now, let 392 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.599 me just describe what has happened to so many of you. 393 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.680 You're going to be nodding and saying yes. And if 394 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.039 you haven't had this happen to you, then listen up 395 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.079 as you start to screw that screw and all of 396 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:31.599 a sudden, the whole anchor just starts spinning in the drywall. Okay, 397 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:36.880 that's because it's a terrible idea. It's just a terrible, 398 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:43.640 terrible idea. If you've got a drywall situation, understand this 399 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:49.599 drywall is made from gypsum. Gypsum is a famous on 400 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:55.279 planet Earth because it is literally the lightest, softest mineral 401 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:00.920