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<v Speaker 2>Oh hello, this is smologies If you're like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Smologies are digests of classic episodes. We've taken a classic

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<v Speaker 2>episode that was for adults. Sometimes we've cut them down

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<v Speaker 2>so they're shorter, they're kids safe, they're g rated. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>length all the details, including some swearing, you can find

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<v Speaker 2>the original full length version at the link in the shutouts,

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<v Speaker 2>But for now, this is just a shortyologies. Oh hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's your friend's older sister Ali Ward back with an

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<v Speaker 2>episode I have waited most of my life for no exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first came up with ologies as a concept.

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<v Speaker 2>It was partly just to drink an expert into talking

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<v Speaker 2>to me about cicadas. Okay, let's get to cicadology. Cicada

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<v Speaker 2>in Latin means tree cricket, but your Appalachian friends may

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<v Speaker 2>call them jarflies. I just found out I have only

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<v Speaker 2>seen a cicada in the wild maybe three times in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, and each time I crowded around it and

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<v Speaker 2>gasped and took pictures like an American at the Eiffel Tower.

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<v Speaker 2>I have never even seen a periodical cicada, the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that emerge in the trillions every thirteen or seventeen years

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<v Speaker 2>in the US. So this year we're getting ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>their emergence. And this ologist who is the authority on

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<v Speaker 2>periodical cicadas, he hails from North Dakota. He's written multiple

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<v Speaker 2>bug books and authored scores of papers on insects. He

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<v Speaker 2>is the cicada guy. So he typically appears in the

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<v Speaker 2>news sometimes maybe you've seen him in all khaki field

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<v Speaker 2>gear and a tan sun hat. And he has a

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<v Speaker 2>gentle silver beard with kind of a tidy upturned mustache,

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<v Speaker 2>like a friendly smile. And we hopped on a call

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<v Speaker 2>to record, and I just screwed it up so bad,

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<v Speaker 2>Like immediately I dropped off the connection and I could

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<v Speaker 2>not log back in, and there were all these tech hiccups.

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<v Speaker 2>So I texted our wonderful assistant scheduler, Noel Dilworth. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I sent him a new link, but he hasn't shown up,

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<v Speaker 2>but I hope he's not mad. And then I got

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<v Speaker 2>the reply, I am not distressed, and I had texted

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<v Speaker 2>him that instead of Noell. So, between wanting to do

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<v Speaker 2>this episode for seventeen years and then talking to the

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<v Speaker 2>world expert in it and texting him about him, my

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<v Speaker 2>level of body sweat was clinically dangerous, but regardless, we

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<v Speaker 2>figured it out. We got on the line to chat

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<v Speaker 2>about life cycles and ghostly remains, cicada chasing the decibel

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<v Speaker 2>levels of our spring time I'm friends, and what you

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<v Speaker 2>should do if you see a cicada, the app Cicada Safari,

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<v Speaker 2>and what they are doing underground for nearly two decades

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<v Speaker 2>while we missed them with icon legend and cicadologist doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Kritsky, who may or may not.

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<v Speaker 3>Already be mad at me, Algyge, I like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, are you mad at me? Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Would I be mad?

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<v Speaker 2>I felt so mad. I was like, oh no, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he just left forever. I was mortified when I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that went to you. But uh, secrets out. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>human being's all right? So am I all right? Down

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<v Speaker 2>to business.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Jean Kritsky and I use here him.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, can you tell me a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>what we can expect this year from the cicada population

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll start seeing our first sign of cicadas in late

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<v Speaker 4>April after a big heavy rain. Some of the cicada,

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<v Speaker 4>especially the soil is a very heavy clay soil. They'll

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<v Speaker 4>actually extend their tunnels above ground. They're called chimneys or turrets,

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<v Speaker 4>firm similar to what crayfish will sometimes do.

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<v Speaker 2>Newsflesh to me that crowdads aka crayfish emerge sometimes out

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<v Speaker 2>of tall, lumpy turrets they build. And also I googled

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<v Speaker 2>cicada tunnels and one image taken under a deck looked

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<v Speaker 2>like a coral reef, or like big tall stacks of

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<v Speaker 2>dirty poker chips, or like the tallest birthday cake ever,

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<v Speaker 2>out of which a beautiful ghoul pops up to say

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<v Speaker 2>Happy seventeen Year's Day.

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<v Speaker 4>Surprise. But that's the first sign that we'll see. That'll

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<v Speaker 4>be usually this in late April. They come out of

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<v Speaker 4>the soil when the soil temperature reaches sixty four to

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<v Speaker 4>grease fahrenheit. And then very specific, well, these are cicadas,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they got they got things to do. They

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<v Speaker 4>gotta come out in seventeen years. They to keep track

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<v Speaker 4>of numbers and what have you. Once you hit that

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<v Speaker 4>temperature for sixty four degrees fahrenheit and then you have

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<v Speaker 4>a really nice soaking rain that just sort of saturates everything,

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<v Speaker 4>then they really pop. I mean, it's just it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>The highest density I've ever seen was three hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty six per square yard. Wow, and that was over

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<v Speaker 4>the course of about a two week period. They came up.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the first even they come up by the

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds and thousands were If there was as much larger,

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<v Speaker 4>you could probably have a really good sci fi movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's the difference between a periodical cicada that might

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<v Speaker 2>come out every seventeen years or thirteen years and annual cicadas.

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<v Speaker 4>They belong to different genera, But if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>look at it, if you look at them, you'll find

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<v Speaker 4>that the annual cicadas. Some are called dog day cicadas,

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<v Speaker 4>be could it come on the dog days of summer.

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<v Speaker 4>They're much larger, their head is more flat, their eyes

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<v Speaker 4>are black, sometimes green. Many of them are black with

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<v Speaker 4>brown markings, are black with green markings that were camouflaged.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I say, they're about a half inch to

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<v Speaker 4>an inch larger than the periodicals.

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<v Speaker 2>So the annual ones come out in the heat of

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<v Speaker 2>summer every year, and although they are more chunk, you

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<v Speaker 2>won't see their camouflaged bods as readily, and you will

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<v Speaker 2>not witness anything near the numbers of the periodical cicadas.

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<v Speaker 2>The annual ones are just all in all more low key.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that part of their evolutionary strategy is just a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of them at once. How does that work?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's works well for them. It's called predator satiation,

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<v Speaker 4>is what we think is happening. They come out in

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<v Speaker 4>these large numbers. Some of the birds are major predators

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<v Speaker 4>of them, but their little crops can't hold many more cicadas.

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<v Speaker 4>And the analogy I like to use is imagine walking

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<v Speaker 4>outside and all of a sudden you see the whole

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<v Speaker 4>world is inundated with flying Hershey's kisses. I'm fond of

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<v Speaker 4>Hershey's kisses. And you intend to eat and eat and

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<v Speaker 4>eat and eat and eat so these, but eventually you

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<v Speaker 4>will get tired of them. In nineteen ninety one and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 4>Emerginal I saw this dog the first say they're coming up,

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<v Speaker 4>snapping out all over in the ark. You's just going

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<v Speaker 4>at him. Five days later, go back to see how

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<v Speaker 4>the emergency is going on at some of my test sites,

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<v Speaker 4>and that dog is just lying on the porch, paws folded,

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<v Speaker 4>and cicada's walking all around.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not carried over it. I'm over these things. So

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<v Speaker 2>periodical cicadas are in the genus Magicicata, and they make

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<v Speaker 2>a splash. They are smaller than the annual cicadas, but

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<v Speaker 2>they have such style in the form of blood red eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's billions, maybe trillions of them. In fact, their

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<v Speaker 2>genus looks like magic cicada, but magi actually comes from

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<v Speaker 2>the Latin for many, not from the word magic. But

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<v Speaker 2>there are over a dozen seventeen year broods and a

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<v Speaker 2>small handful of thirteen year broods. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>link on my website to a US map to see

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<v Speaker 2>which broods might be in your area. Now, elsewhere in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, you can always gaze at an annual cicada.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have them, you can tell it you love

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<v Speaker 2>it if you can find it. But if you have

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<v Speaker 2>periodicals in your area, they're hard to miss because they

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<v Speaker 2>blanket everything. And you know, this is one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>think that still mystifies us. But can you describe a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of the life cycle? What are they doing

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<v Speaker 2>that whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start when the adults emerge from the ground. But

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<v Speaker 4>what will happen is I mentioned the soil will be

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<v Speaker 4>sixty four degrees fahrenheit, nice soaking rain, and that causes

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<v Speaker 4>the nymph in cicadas to come out of the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>They start wandering on trying to find a vertical surface

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<v Speaker 4>to crawl up, because our whole purpose now is to

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<v Speaker 4>shed their nymphile skin and transform to the adult. I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen them crawl up trees, brick walls, fence walls, tombstones,

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<v Speaker 4>blades of grass, whatever going up. They climb up that

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<v Speaker 4>surface and they lock their little legs into the tree trunk.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say it's a tree, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>the back of the thorc splits open like somebody wearing

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<v Speaker 4>a black coat o with a white shirt underneath it,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's just too small, and they split the seam.

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<v Speaker 4>They see this thing open up, and then it goes

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<v Speaker 4>up and cracks the head capsule, and then slowly the

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<v Speaker 4>adult cicada wriggles its way out, and by this time

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<v Speaker 4>it's out. It's white in color, it's got red eyes,

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<v Speaker 4>two black patches behind the head. And then they'll eventually

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<v Speaker 4>look like the typical adult cicada with the red eyes

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<v Speaker 4>and the black body and the numbertous wings with the

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<v Speaker 4>orange color on the major wing mates at the base.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the thing I want to do now is

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<v Speaker 4>basically climb to the tops of the trees and then

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<v Speaker 4>they start flying, and that's when you'll see the birds

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<v Speaker 4>really attuned to them. And at this time more males

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<v Speaker 4>emerged the first couple of days than females. That vanguard

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<v Speaker 4>there is going to give their lives so that others

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<v Speaker 4>can live.

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<v Speaker 2>So the early male gets the axe just first on

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<v Speaker 2>the scene looking for ladies. They are delicious. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>the first French fry you eat out of the drive through,

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<v Speaker 2>just the least likely to survive, and males and females

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<v Speaker 2>will sprout out over the next couple of weeks, all

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<v Speaker 2>looking for springtime, summer.

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<v Speaker 4>Loving, and after about five days or so, after they've merged,

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<v Speaker 4>the males can start singing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, many questions about this. When you say singing, what

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<v Speaker 2>would you say that it sounds like it's beautiful? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I think it sounds kind of otherworldly

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Just this really kind of high pitched buzzing y.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very much so. There are three species that are

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<v Speaker 4>calls who are different from the three species. The large one,

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<v Speaker 4>sept in decim, has a sort of like b and

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<v Speaker 4>it sounds like when you hear a whole chorus of

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<v Speaker 4>these things, it sounds like some nineteen fifties science fiction movie.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the sound of the flying saucers flying in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the smaller species, cass and eye, is more

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<v Speaker 4>of a constant sound, and it doesn't all stay constant

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<v Speaker 4>and sound and levels. It'll get louder and then drop

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<v Speaker 4>off louder, drop off. The highest I've measured is n

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<v Speaker 4>six decibels.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh my gosh. That's about as loud as like a

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<v Speaker 2>rock band playing right as a rock band. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been more like your old uncle, but yes, different calls

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<v Speaker 2>like the ones on the wonderful incredible website Cicadamania run

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say Joe is on the flight path. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, how are they making that loud of a sound?

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<v Speaker 4>The sound is made by a timble. There are two

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<v Speaker 4>hear that little snapping sound? Do that about one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty to hundred times in a second. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>your call for that mail amplified with the abdomen being hollow,

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<v Speaker 4>and then multiply that by twenty thousand, and you might

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<v Speaker 4>For a lady.

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<v Speaker 2>And then try to impress you by screaming. And now

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when she is gravid or peggers.

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<v Speaker 4>structures that are serrated and they move opposite and literally

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<v Speaker 4>cut into the wood. And it turns out they are

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<v Speaker 4>also like we see with a nuoned wasp that lay

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<v Speaker 4>their eggs in her bark and so on, also reinforced

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<v Speaker 4>with metals, and these metals are increase along the side

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<v Speaker 2>for all of us. So Cicada ladies' ovipositors are serrated

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<v Speaker 2>like knives and reinforced with metal, also like a knife.

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<v Speaker 4>She'll lay between ten to twenty eggs, and each little

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<v Speaker 4>out of the corners, down puncture the tree twig again, lay

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<v Speaker 4>more eggs and so on, and she keeps doing that

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<v Speaker 2>But they still have quite a trek to make right

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<v Speaker 4>After she lays her eggs, they die and both the

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<v Speaker 4>male is dead and the female then drops dead and

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<v Speaker 4>that's it. And it takes six to eight weeks after

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<v Speaker 4>the eggs were laid that they start hatching, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>usually the end of July first of August if you're

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<v Speaker 4>at the right time, in the right place. When the

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<v Speaker 4>You can actually see these things drop like little little

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<v Speaker 4>flecks to the ground, and that's when they're extremely vulnerable. Spiders, ants,

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<v Speaker 4>ground beetles go after these things like crazy. So as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as they hit the ground, they've got to find

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<v Speaker 4>a crack in the soil, as usually a long a

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<v Speaker 4>blade of grass, and they get underground immediately as fast

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, eggs are laid in slits in tree twigs

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<v Speaker 2>and then they emerge and once on the ground, they

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<v Speaker 2>start looking for thirteen or seventeen year real estate.

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<v Speaker 4>And so they feed on grassroots for the first few weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>and then by New Year's Day they're ten to twelve

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<v Speaker 4>inches below the surface, latched onto a tree root, sucking.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know it because on New Year's Day I

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<v Speaker 4>went out and dug up cicadas.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, so they've already latched on there. So do they

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<v Speaker 2>spend those cold winters just sucking up sugars from the

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<v Speaker 2>tree roots?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yes, but although they're feeding on the xylum tissue

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<v Speaker 4>and oh okay, and as you remember from biology, xylem

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<v Speaker 4>from the soil up to the leaves. The floam has

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<v Speaker 4>the sugars coming down, so they're feeding on this nutrient

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<v Speaker 4>poor fluid for the next seventeen years and not moving

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<v Speaker 4>probably more than a yard or a meter in any

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<v Speaker 4>direction during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Got everything I need right here with me.

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<v Speaker 4>It thought that the long life cycle might be a

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, okay, So tell me a little bit about

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<v Speaker 4>The life cycles. Well, there's two life cycles, seventeen years

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<v Speaker 4>and thirteen years, and they grow at different rates. One

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<v Speaker 4>of the differences between the thirteen and seven years cicadas

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<v Speaker 4>is that the thirteen year cicadas moult an extra time

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<v Speaker 4>within that first five years of life. Oh okay, and

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<v Speaker 4>that triggers they're coming out four years early. But the

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<v Speaker 4>idea is that the thirteen year cicada has evolved south

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<v Speaker 4>of the glaciers, and if you look at the thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>year cicada distribution, they're mostly in the southern part of

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<v Speaker 4>the eastern United States. But then the seventeen year ciccadaes

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<v Speaker 4>are generally more north than that, although there are some

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<v Speaker 4>of that in eastern Oklahoma that get a little far south.

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<v Speaker 2>So Gene explained that cicadas are creatures of climate, evolving

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<v Speaker 2>and separating into different species and broods and groups relatively

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<v Speaker 2>recently in the last ice ages, adapting to ice sheets

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<v Speaker 2>and going further south and then advancing north again when

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<v Speaker 2>they receded, and the thirteen and seventeen year periodical cicadas

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<v Speaker 2>separated over the last three hundred thousand years, which geologically

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<v Speaker 2>three thirteen year broods and twelve seventeen year broods. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I ask you questions from listeners, certainly, but before we

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Many patrons, such as first time question askers Molly

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<v Speaker 2>Cousins and Alex Bowman, wanted to know how are they

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<v Speaker 2>better at time management than PA? Essentially, how do they

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<v Speaker 2>know when to come out? Is there a stage manager underground?

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening? Do you have any idea to do? Scientists

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<v Speaker 2>know if there's something chemical that triggers that emergence, how

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<v Speaker 2>do they sense it.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that they can determine year passages by the

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<v Speaker 4>changes in fluid flow in the xylum. You know, when

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<v Speaker 4>the tree goes dorm it. There seems to be some

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<v Speaker 4>they can detect that leaf sets and flower sets can

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<v Speaker 4>trigger that because that you'll see more fluid flow. But

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<v Speaker 4>what we don't know is how do they remember what

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<v Speaker 4>We did have an event happened here in Cincinnati in

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and six. We had a December that reached

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<v Speaker 4>seventy degrees and it continued into January, and the maple

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<v Speaker 4>tree in my backyard leafed out. I thought I was

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<v Speaker 4>opposes to me, this is January. Then we had a

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<v Speaker 4>hard freeze in February, all the leaves fell off. Come

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<v Speaker 4>the late March early April, the trees started leafing out again,

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<v Speaker 4>and in parts of Cincinnati where Breod fourteen was expected

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<v Speaker 4>to come out the following year, they came out. So

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<v Speaker 4>for those cicadas, they thought seventeen years had passed even

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<v Speaker 4>though they had two leaf sets that occurred in one year.

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<v Speaker 2>For more on how leaves come and go by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>check out the Phonology episode. Also heads up to Hannah Noos,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to pronounce your name wrong and I am sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this details into a question from several listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>A first time question asker David Oronoff, first timer hunter Elliott,

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<v Speaker 2>Hannah Newst, and Earl of Graymulkin all wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 2>in well, in Earl's words, not to be depressing, but

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<v Speaker 2>to be depressing, how is climate change affecting cicadas? And

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<v Speaker 2>a hunter wanted to know could their hibernation cycles be

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<v Speaker 2>altered because of it?

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of these that we're looking into, and it

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<v Speaker 4>seems possible. As I mentioned, they are climate insects, if

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<v Speaker 4>you will. They emerged when the soil temperature reaches sixty

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<v Speaker 4>four degrees fahrenheit, and prior to nineteen fifty, the average

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<v Speaker 4>for Cincinnati was May twenty eighth, twenty ninth. Since nineteen fifty,

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<v Speaker 4>and in the last few years, they're now coming round

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<v Speaker 4>between the thirteenth and the sixteenth of May, so spring

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<v Speaker 4>the first half of the twentieth century. What that could do,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, if you had continuous like what happened in

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<v Speaker 4>you had a year event happened where there was like

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<v Speaker 4>trees that seemed to the cicada d if a two

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<v Speaker 4>year things had passed, they might molt in that first

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<v Speaker 4>five years, which would trigger a four year early acceleration

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<v Speaker 4>and emerging off cycle. And that's actually happened in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety one. My students in my ecology and evolution classes

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<v Speaker 4>the university and we'd dig up cicadatives to sort of

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<v Speaker 4>drive home the scientific method. I gave this wonderful paper

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<v Speaker 4>this between thirteen year scades of seventeen year cicadas, and

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<v Speaker 4>it said what stage of growth they should be at

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<v Speaker 4>each year. And I said, okay, what stage should they

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<v Speaker 4>and dug up cicadas. And the cicadas were bigger they

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to come out four years early. And they

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<v Speaker 4>came out, oh and massive numbers. It was mind boggling.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going to happen to that one? Is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to get off cycle now or is it going to

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's what we wanted to know. So of course,

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<v Speaker 4>working with cicadas, that's the problem. This is to the

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<v Speaker 4>year two thousand. Yeah, So I went back in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>my wife and I went to the study site and

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<v Speaker 4>they started coming out. They were coming out. We found

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<v Speaker 4>shells all over the place. Who went out there, and

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<v Speaker 4>even the hundreds of them came out. We'd go back

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<v Speaker 4>the next day. We couldn't find a single adult cicada.

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<v Speaker 4>Those cicadas did not survive predation to reproduce in twenty thirteen. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>wait four more years now, you've remember this is out

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen years later.

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<v Speaker 2>So this last early emergence happened in twenty seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 2>adult cicadas who were just little baby eggs in that

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<v Speaker 2>early two thousand emergents made it all around Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 2>their babies were on time seventeen years later, and not

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<v Speaker 2>in one backyard, but thirty three different locations recorded. So

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<v Speaker 2>what happens to all these early bird cicadas?

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<v Speaker 4>Things are out of sinc What we've seen now is

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<v Speaker 4>the origin of a new population of brood six.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Patron David Ordinoff asks, are we looking at

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<v Speaker 2>dwindling populations? So what kind of head count are we talking?

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<v Speaker 4>It's sort of It's interesting. In nineteen nineteen, headlines and

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<v Speaker 4>newspapers around the country talked about brood ten's emerging. It's

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<v Speaker 4>probably on its way out. There's concern about it's going extinct.

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<v Speaker 4>As crazy as that sounds, it's happened Brood eleven, which

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<v Speaker 4>emerged in massive numbers in sixteen ninety nine just outside

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<v Speaker 4>of Boston. What extinct in nineteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Here in Ohio in northwest of Ohio, several counties that

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<v Speaker 4>reported cicadas in the late nineteenth century early twentieth century

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<v Speaker 4>no longer have cicadas. So one of the things I'm

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<v Speaker 4>hoping that we do with people helping us with the

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<v Speaker 4>Cicada Safari app is to really give us a good

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<v Speaker 4>picture what's the status of.

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<v Speaker 2>Brew ten And so now people can download Cicada Safari

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<v Speaker 2>and what they take a picture and let you know

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<v Speaker 2>where they took it, like geotagged it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we want to do two things. We want to

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<v Speaker 4>help people have more enjoyment with the cicadas. So after

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<v Speaker 4>you've downloaded the app and it's free, we encourage people

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<v Speaker 4>to go on their own Cicada Safari and if they

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<v Speaker 4>see one, they take a photograph and submit it. I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a group of colleagues who are volunteering and working

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<v Speaker 4>to help us identify and examine every photograph.

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<v Speaker 2>Us ologites do your thing Cicada Safari app. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's so much that you love about them, but

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<v Speaker 2>is there something that is your favorite thing about cicadas?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Wow, I know there is something about when they

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<v Speaker 4>first start coming out. I will go out with my tripod,

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<v Speaker 4>my iPhone flashlight and I'll set this thing up and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll sit there for hours photographing as cicada as it goes.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got probably twenty thousand pictures of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>It never gets old. It never gets old. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>almost like a zen moment when you can do when

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<v Speaker 4>that happens, and then to the opposite extreme but still

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<v Speaker 4>is but still fun, is when the numbers are really

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<v Speaker 4>big and they're screaming, and it is just it is

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<v Speaker 4>just fun. It is just great.

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<v Speaker 2>So ask world renowned experts basic questions, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait seventeen years to do so and you

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<v Speaker 2>screwed up for the first couple of minutes. At the

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<v Speaker 2>link in the show notes, you will find the app

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<v Speaker 2>Cicada Safari, and you can help Jeans Lab track these suckers.

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<v Speaker 2>You can learn more about cicadas from Dan Mosguy's website

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<v Speaker 2>Cicada Mania, which is wonderful and he has an Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram dot com slash Cicada Mania. Highly recommend following them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am Ali Ward on Twitter and Instagram with

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<v Speaker 2>just one L and the show is at Ologies on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter Instagram. Also linked is aliward dot com slash smologies,

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<v Speaker 2>which has dozens more kids safe and shorter episodes you

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<v Speaker 2>can blaze through and thank you Mercedes Maitland of Maitland

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<v Speaker 2>Audio for editing those and says we like to keep

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<v Speaker 2>things small around here. The rest of the credits are

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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes, and if you stick around until

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the episode, you know that I give

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<v Speaker 2>you a piece of advice. And this piece of advice

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you love bugs and you love taking

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of them, you might want to ask it grown up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe if your next birthday for like a little macro

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<v Speaker 2>lens that you can clip on to a phone or

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<v Speaker 2>an iPad. You can take up close pictures and bugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the smallest patch of dirt becomes fascinating with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can also just get up close with any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of camera and check out and see what's under leaves,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on the underside of a branch. There's so many

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<v Speaker 2>bugs hanging out everywhere, and you'd be surprised. You can

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<v Speaker 2>go on a bug safari with the smallest little patch

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<v Speaker 2>of lawn, so enjoy. I love doing that. I'll sit

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden. I'll just be like, who's out here? Boom?

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<v Speaker 2>I got ten new friends in a second. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye, so alergy slogy.

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