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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at the

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Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge.

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Our guest today is Christian Toto, founder and the guy

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who runs everything at just a great conservative movie entertainment

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review site. And it is unusual, once again we've talked

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to Christian in the past. It is very unusual to

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have a Christian, excuse me, a conservative review site in

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liberal land in entertainment in America. Christian is also the

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host of the Hollywood and Soto podcast, and he joins

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us today to talk about the best and the worst,

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if you will, of twenty twenty five as this year

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quickly comes to an end, the good, the bad, and

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the oh so ugly. Christian, thank you for joining us

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in this edition of the Vedroolist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 2: Oh my pleasure. Thanks for a nice intro.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you do great work, and we'll hit the website

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here before we end our conversation, because, like I said,

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you just don't find this perspective out there in the

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world of entertainment review. Let's begin, I guess, with a sense.

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Speaker 3: Of where we are.

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Speaker 1: In wokeland, the constant press by the left and of

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course the left that controls much of the entertainment industry.

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What was twenty twenty five like on that front, when

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we're talking about the cultural battles, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I think it's a bit of a course correction

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where some of the woke we've been seeing, some of

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the messaging that's been going on aggressively, and Hollywood has

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been diminished. It's still there, for sure. There are still

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restrictions in place, which is really frustrating. I mean, if

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you're an artist, you don't want those restrictions generally speaking.

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But I do think the industry is starting to acknowledge that, hey,

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this isn't working, This isn't really drawing eyeballs like we

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thought it might or that be hoped it might. And

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because Hollywood is in trouble, the streamers aren't making as

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much money as they used to, the box office receipts

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are down, lots of different reasons why the industry is worried,

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and I think they can't afford to be as woke

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as they once were, so I think all those factors

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are making things a little more hospitable for free speech,

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for artistry, and I think you see it mostly in comedy.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We haven't had any big body r rated comedies of

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consequence lately, but you know, when you think about podcasts

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and Patreon and live stand up stages and even some

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roasts here and there, comedies on the comeback trail, as

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far as the I can say what I want to

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say and let the audience decide if it's funny or

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offensive or not.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld ought to be particularly excited about that. He's

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been talking about that about college campuses for years, but

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of course was it earlier this year he kind of

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issued ama kulpa about well, maybe I shouldn't shouldn't say

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things that would offend my liberal friends out there. I

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didn't really mean that there was a problem.

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Speaker 3: With all of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating. You know, I've been following the journey

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of Sidney Sweeney in recent weeks. Man, of course, she

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made that infamous American eagle genes ad I've got good genes.

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it was a little play on words. A very very

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small segment of society said white supremacis, and rather than

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apologize or backpedal or do anything, she just kind of

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said nothing. And that was the state of affairs. And

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then she was asked about it by a woke GQ

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interviewer and she essentially just stood her ground. But in

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recent days she's done some quasi backpedaling. She denounced hate,

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and she said, I wish I had explored this issue earlier.

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she understands that being in this Hollywood community, she's got

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to speak a certain way and she's got to embrace

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certain views. So it's been an interesting year in this

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sort of cultural situation. Good signs, bad signs, mediocre signs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's the difficulty, isn't it, Because, like you said,

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Speaker 3: Now, that may be.

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Speaker 1: A product of the movies that Sydney Sweeney was in.

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understand the appeal of Sydney Sweeney.

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Speaker 3: That said, that's what the left has.

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Speaker 1: Learned in the hard way, that it has alienated half

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of its movie going entertainment going audience. Is the same

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thing happening to Sydney Sweeney, you know, with the liberal

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viewers leaving her.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. The movies that

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she made in recent months, at least the ones that

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are coming out now, they were smaller films. They didn't

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have a lot of marketing behind them. They weren't, you know,

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cat nip. It wasn't like she was doing an action

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movie or a rom com. And the one movie that

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was a real it was sad to see was Christy,

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which is about the box of Christy Martin. It's a

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very good film and she's terrific in it, and it

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first came out. I think it's kind of faded away

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at this point. But you know, boxing is in catnip

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to audiences today, female boxing even less. So I didn't

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get a huge promotional push again, and it's a very

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complicated marketplace, so it's not shocking that these movies are

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not surviving and thriving. I mean a lot of movies

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are stumbling at the box office. But you know, one

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thing I've lamented in recent weeks is that, you know,

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not that she's conservative, and not that she's mega or

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not that she's anything in the common, but just standing

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up to the woke mob and refusing to bow and

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to grovel and to do the hostage apology tour. I

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think conservatives should have rallied around Christy and said, hey,

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I'm going to go see that movie. But what I've

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found frustrating in recent years and is that conservatives really

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sometimes don't process pop culture well, or they don't fight

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the good fight in ways that they should. And could

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you know you can use your money to not just boycott,

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but by good and buy these things by tickets. It's Sydney.

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We appreciate the fact that you stood tall, and we're

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going to support your movie and it's not really complicated.

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But that's not happening, and that's why she's in this

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quasi backpedal format.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's very similar in politics, and I'm

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worried about what we're going to see in twenty twenty six,

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as a reporter that covers politics and that has had

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a lot of low propensity voters, voters that don't come

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out very often, if at all, casting ballots for Donald

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Trump in twenty twenty four and the results are, you know,

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clearly what they were, pretty significant victory for Donald Trump.

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Will they come back out in twenty twenty six in

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a mid term without Donald Trump on the ballot, even

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though his policies are on the ballot. Well, it's not

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looking good at this point, and the Republican Party really

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has its work cut out for it, as do the

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conservative grassroots movement, you know, but that's that's what it is.

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But consistent, you know, we talk about this sort of stuff,

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but who is walking the walk now? I'm not going

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to cast any stones at glass houses because I don't

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ever really pay money to go. I can't remember the

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last time I've been to a movie theater. And I

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don't think I'm alone in that. I do have streaming

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devices and I don't watch a lot of that stuff.

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I mean, it's more for my kids and my wife.

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last couple of decades, you know, twenty thirty years. Really,

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the whole landscape has changed, hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, and I understand that completely. I

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think what frustrates me is that there are a lot

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of people in the right, my friends, and they say

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more stories that reflect my worldview. And then when we

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do get the occasional project that is like that or

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similar to that, then we don't support it. And listen,

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Hollywood responds when they see money. And the Passion of

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Christ really invigorated the whole faith based movie market and

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it's still thriving to a degree now. And you know,

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a few years ago, I was really lamenting the release

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of Richard Jewel by Clint Eastwood because to not only

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was it a wonderful, entertaining, well told story, but it

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really reflected a right leaning fear and trepidation over the

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media and their corruption and FBI malfeasons. And at the time,

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we just didn't rally behind it and it flopped. And

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I even recently, and this is anecdotal and not exactly scientific,

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but I mentioned on social media, you know, Sidney Sweeney

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really stood up to the mob, the woke mob, and

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I think the least that people in the rank can

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do is maybe support her movie. And I was yelled

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at on social media and now I'm not going to

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see my movie. What do we care? Well, because now

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she's back peddling, and now she's going to be more

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likely to bend the knee. And not just her, but

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these things impact the culture. You know, when Stephen King,

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halle Berry, a Scrolet Johannson, when they bowed to the

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woke mob, what chance do we have. We're not rich

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and powerful and successful like they are. And if they

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can't stand tall and just stand by the principles, then

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makes it a heck of a lot harder for us too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does it. Also, you know, whether you

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seeing role models out there, at least making role models

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out of these celebrities in music and movies and television shows,

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streaming whatever. And they're seeing fewer and fewer people who

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are not part of that woke mob. And that's something

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we're seeing so much indoctrination going on in our public schools. Obviously,

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a lot of that is going on in Hollywood too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not shy about it. And I think, like

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this year, a certain acknowledgment that this is not the

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path forward economically. There's still a lot of that messaging

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almost everywhere. And I look no further than one Battle

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after another, a movie that seems like a lock for

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Best Picture and a lock for a lot of the

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key categories that the Oscars come March, and it is

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an aggressively hard left movie that glorifies violence against the government,

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that radicalism, that paints anyone trying to enforce immigration laws

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in the worst light imaginable. And it's going to sweep everything,

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and it's getting, you know, a laudatory coverage, and it's

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going to awards, and it's going to be the front

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and center for weeks and weeks. That kind of messaging

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is really hard to duplicate in society, but here we are,

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and that's just part of the system at play. It's

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just it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you again. On the news side, I mean,

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you have The New York Times winning Pulitzers for lying

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to Americans for years over the Russia collusion hoax. They

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haven't given back their Pulitzers now that the record is

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obviously changed and they've had to correct the record. But

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you know, that's where we are speaking of political infusion

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in just about everything we do, every walk of life.

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We are having a discussion now.

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Speaker 3: The day after.

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Speaker 1: I think someone that a lot of Americans have known

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for what now fifty five sixty years was just brutally

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murdered along with his wife in his California, Los Angeles

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area home. Is still sorting out the details on this,

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but it is heartbreaking to see this kind of thing,

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this murder that had occurred, or at least that's what

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we were told by law enforcement officials. But the guy

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that you got to know very well and all in

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the family played Michael Stivic and or Meat had the

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guy who was behind the camera and so many movies

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that Americans loved. That a guy who also was extremely

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strident about his politics and where he stood a lot

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of people are thinking about.

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Speaker 3: Those two things today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob Brinder was such a consequential director, and I'm

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mentally as far as the look is a perspective on

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or going to a facility or something. That was I

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think that around the election of twenty twenty four. But yeah,

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I mean, even though his output diminished greatly in the

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last twenty plus years, Guy directed banger after banger, I mean,

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Princess Bride, Misery, when Harry met Sally, stand by me,

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a few good men. I mean, just this is spinal tap.

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wonderful rom comedy, one of the many films they couldn't

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make today because it's provocative subject matter, but it's actually

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very sweet and sweet and soulful at the end. He's

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a significant figure and he will be missed, and the

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details of his death are among them more shocking i've

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seen in quite some time as far as someone dying

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in the celebrity landscape. It's just awful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing, And unfortunately both sides, of course,

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are guilty of this. It's not a both side is

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some sort of thing. But let's be honest, we do

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have such a political culture. We certainly learned what happened

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after the you know, Charlie Kirk, but you know a

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lot of people have been into on social media and

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who committed this crime when again, police have in custody,

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have arrested and charged Rob Reiner's son, who was struggling

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with drug addiction for a long time, and that'll play

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out in the court system. But what do you think

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about where we are now thanks to social media, politics

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and entertainment at that crossroads.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's rarely good, it's rarely healthy. It's really something

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to admire. I think we often are at our worst

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on social media. I try not to be myself personally,

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but other people aren't aren't quite that way.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that maybe I don't know if you're

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asking directly or hinting at it, but you know, President

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and I found them. I found them gross and excusable.

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going to not vote for him or his policies, and

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who he is. But my gosh, I just thought it

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was words fail me. And you know, listen, some people

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are saying, well, they say the same thing about him.

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his wife died as well in that attack. The last

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thing you do is you say what Trump did on

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social media, and I you know, Trump can be a

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bare knuckle brawler, and one of the things I often

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admired about him is that he could be rough and

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tumble and then when the chips are down, or then

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when he meets someone face to face, he could be

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more cordial. You know, when he was with Biden during

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the presidential transition. I think we've seen elements of that.

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But what he said helps no one makes him a target.

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It makes the right of target and it's just wrong.

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It's just wrong. And before the mics went on, I

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think he was doubling down in some of his comments,

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and I just I'm almost have a lost for it.

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Speaker 4: Could this latest jobs report be an election decider? Who

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watched Out On Wall Street Podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day,

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Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy

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and how it affects your wallet. New jobs reports show

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that numbers fell way below expectations, and small businesses are

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laying people off. The real job engine is companies that

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are less than five years old. Whether it's happening in

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DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 3: Be informed.

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Speaker 4: Check out the Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and we've seen so much of that

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over the last year. Again, I know people are trying

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to say all the left does it, you know, and

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we certainly did see some horrible behavior, horrible conduct, horrible

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messaging from the left after you know, a young man

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who had become you know, a conservative icon was murdered

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in front of his wife and young children in Charlie Kirk.

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But you know, it's just whoever is doing it. I

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just I really want to keep my eyes on, you know,

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the policy, and I know as a reviewer, you want

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to keep your eyes and your ears on what is

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shaping culture and what's going on in entertainment. At the

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end of the day, for you, it is about offering

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criticism and review of the product. That's coming out of

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Hollywood or wherever entertainment is made today, and again, so

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much of politics is infused in all of that. I'll

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tell you what though, it was quite a year once

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again for all kinds of different experiments in a world

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of movie making. Some of these experiments, of course, have

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been tried and tried again. We had some sequels that

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came out this year. Let us begin, if you will,

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by taking us through maybe some of the best what

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you're hearing in terms of Oscar buzzworthy stuff and whether

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that buzz is warranted.

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Speaker 2: Well, I touched them upon one battle after another. It's

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going to win everything, I think, unless something derails it.

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I don't see that happening. But to me, the best

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movie of the year is Marty Supreme. And it's not

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even the theories yet. I got a sneak peek out

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of it. It comes out on Christmas Day. This is

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with Timothy Chalomage. He plays a ping pong prodigy in

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the nineteen fifties. It's very loosely based on true events.

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But just go in there and enjoy the film. It's

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a ride. It's over two hours. Every other movie now

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is well past two hours. I wish that would change.

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I don't think you need to tell stories of that length,

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but this one just flies by. It's beautifully told. He's

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terrific in it. It's imaginative, it's fresh, it's exciting, it's interesting,

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and as an ex New Yorker, some of the details

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and accents of the New York scene really made me smile.

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I don't think everyone's going to get that, because not

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everyone's from New York Is like I am. But just

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a wonderful movie. So look out for that one December

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twenty fifth, Christmas Day, it comes out, and it'll be

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interesting to see. I would think that it's going to

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have good word of mouth. But you know, adult minded

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dramas are really struggling right now, and it's anything goes

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right now. It's you know, we just want to see

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the Wickeds and the Zutopia sequels and the horror movies,

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but straight ahead dramas really are having a harder time,

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and I think that's maybe the future where they'll just

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pop up on streaming first, and maybe the roller coaster

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ride type movies will be the ones ac in theaters.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in that we category, by the way, but

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my children are, they would rather see those who, particularly

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my daughters. There is a movie out there I wanted

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to get your take on because I'm a fan of

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the musician, and you know, the biographical musical drama has

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been in play for more time, and the latest was

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about Neil Diamond. If you remember from one of my

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favorite Bill Murray movies, what about Bob, when he says

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to his psychiatrist, doctor Leo Marvin, there are two kinds

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of people, those who love Neil Diamond and obviously those

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who do not. That said, there's an interesting story about

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in everyman kind of It was every man kind of story.

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A guy who became a Neil Diamond impersonator, you know,

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covered his stuff, performed as Neil Diamond is people have

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performed as Elvis for years. It's called Song Sung Blue.

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I was wondering what you thought about that production.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Hugh Jackmans and Pet Hudson's storing and that

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film directed by Craig Brewer, who's a little hit or missed,

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but when he makes movies about music, they're really spot on.

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few others as well. I can't get into it in depth.

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The embargo I think is still in place, but I

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think people will really enjoy it just from the music alone.

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It's almost like a jukebox musical. But I'll also tell

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you that when you see the film, go google the

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true story behind it. There's some creative license here, but

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it sticks closely to the real story, which is just

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a jaw dropper at times. So I'll be very curious

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to see the reaction. And I love the breakdown of

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there are people who love me and people who don't.

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Diamond is that for years and years he wasn't cool

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in a hip rock sense, and I think people maybe

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found him schmalty or to pop or too easy going

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in a way. But man, that music and if you

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love that music, if you like that music, I think

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you're gonna really, you know, sing your teeth into this

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particular film.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps bar Stress ended him in because that was a

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rough time for me personally with Diamond. I can take

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all the denim and blue jeans you can throw at me,

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but you know, the bad stuff didn't have me on board. Well,

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our guest today is Christian Toto. You can find all

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of his great work at Hollywood in Toto and the

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address is pretty simple, is it not Hollywoodintoto dot com.

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Speaker 2: I am nothing if not consistent. It's my Twitter handle,

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and then on Instagram, I'm at real Hollywood and Toto,

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which is a shake it up just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I love it. It's easy.

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Speaker 1: It's like my email handle, Matt at the Federalist dot com.

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It's the easiest email I've ever had in this news business.

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And I can't believe I'm saying that, but it is true.

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Of course, you've got the Hollywood in Toto podcast as well.

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We're going to talk a little bit more about that

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coming up, but wanted to continue to focus on some

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of the big movies, some of the big shows, if

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you will, this year on the movie side, though, talked

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about some of the critically acclaimed and a little bit

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about what you personally like, what movies, other movies that

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have come out that you would recommend that maybe didn't

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get a lot of attention, maybe didn't get it didn't

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have the same kind of budgets that we see with

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some of those we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think some of the movies that I

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liked a lot actually were almost universally cheered on. And

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I mentioned Weapons, which is a terrific horror movie that

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had a lot of depth to it, and also Sinners

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as well. I could say the same thing. That's director

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Ryan Kugler with Michael B.

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Speaker 3: Jordan.

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Speaker 2: It's a vampire movie, but it's so much more than that,

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and it takes a while to kind of get to

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a simmer, but it's enjoyable. It's got a lot of

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things to say. The craftsmanship is through the roof. And

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I'll mention another one which is coming soon that I

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think may get looked past. It's called Is This Thing On.

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It's directed by Bradley Cooper tran to be just oh yeah,

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a tour behind the camera as well as being a

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very charming actor in front of it. It's about a

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couple I've been married for twenty years. They're splitting up,

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and then the man and the couple played by Will Ornette,

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essentially stumbles into a comedy club and does a little

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bit of stand up at an open mic night and

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realizes that that's the therapy he needs. So it's all

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about him. Discovering himself, kind of figure out if this

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marriage is going to be salvageable, and getting to know

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himself as a creative person. I found it fascinating and

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the subject matter itself is enjoyable too. So Laura Duran

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is the co star there. She's terrific. She's always great,

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So I just think that one's going to get lost

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in the shuffle. Even though Bradley Cooper gets a lot

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of attention paid to his movies, he's a big movie star,

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so that one is certainly one to look at. And

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I also enjoyed j Kelly. It didn't get a lot

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of acclaim. It may be mild in the Oscar consideration,

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but it's a drama about a movie star looking at

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his past and thinking, maybe I was a pretty bad dad,

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and do I regret being that father? And I kind

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of wish I could be a better person now. It's

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George Clooney playing a variation at George Clooney, and he's

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quite good at it, shockingly So that one's on Netflix

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as we speak, so you can check it out there.

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Adam Sandler's got a supporting role, just strong as he

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always is, and it's so surprising to see how he's

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transitioned so effortlessly into a dramatic actor. He's good, He's

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just flat out good, and he had something special to

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the movies. So I enjoyed it mostly good reviews. Actually

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a guest critic on my side, Hollywood and Toto, who

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was not a fan of it at all, again one

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and a half stars. But I enjoyed it much more.

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I think it's interesting. And again, I hate to frame

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it this way, but it's on Netflix, and if you're

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not loving it, you could always tune away and find

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something else. But I liked it until I liked it

474
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:35,680
a lot, so I.

475
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: Recommend it interesting. I'll have to check that out. Does

476
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,839
George Clooney at any point in this movie talk about

477
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,880
how the Joe Biden we're seeing now as we watched

478
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,519
for years, it's not the same Joe Biden now.

479
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: No, they should have a scene where he waits until

480
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,400
the poll numbers shrink and then he comes out with

481
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,680
his confession. But maybe that was left in the cutting

482
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,119
room floor.

483
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,599
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe just that's right, Well, that was right.

484
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: That was a big Hollywood mall went there, George Clooney

485
00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,759
and friends and a big Biden fundraiser and Biden came

486
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:06,880
out on stage and froze up and did all of

487
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,400
those sorts of things, and why wouldn't you know it?

488
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,599
What long after you got a New York Times op

489
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:18,079
ed from George Clooney saying all that stuff about Joe Biden.

490
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Let me go back to the is this thing on?

491
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:28,119
I'm curious because I have seen some really good movies

492
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,480
over time about you know, comedians, their lives, how they

493
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:37,440
became comedians. This sounds kind of on that track. This

494
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000
guy wasn't a comedian, but he finds out, Hey, he

495
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:43,759
can say some funny things at the same time figure

496
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:47,920
out what's going wrong with his relationships. I think about Punchline.

497
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,599
You remember that movie with Tom Hanks years ago. I

498
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,680
thought that was It was a lot darker than I

499
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,759
thought it was going to be walking into a movie theater,

500
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,960
but I thought that was very well done. Obviously Dustin

501
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:04,400
Hoffman being Lenny Bruce, and there are others along the line.

502
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:08,400
Does it is there a comparison there?

503
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,319
Speaker 3: Does it stand up?

504
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Gosh? I don't think direct comparisons because this is a

505
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,079
part of the story and the bricker presentation is this

506
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,319
will this marriage survive? And can this couple, you know,

507
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960
find what made them magical in the first place. I

508
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,599
will say it reminded me a lot of a great

509
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480
TV show from a couple of years ago. Lasted three

510
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,480
seasons called Crashing, and that was Pete Holmes. It was

511
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:34,799
sort of semi autobiography.

512
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was good.

513
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that was about it. He was just

514
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:40,359
trying to get into stand up comedy. Uh huh in

515
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,759
dignities he faced along the way. A really. I know

516
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,279
it got some critical acclaim and some people talked about it,

517
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:49,519
but it's just a wonderful show. And that one was

518
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:53,920
a little bit darker. Two mature subject matter that not

519
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,079
your cup of tea. Definitely would stay far far away.

520
00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:01,319
But I'm fascinated by comedy, how people compile their act,

521
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,599
how they market themselves, how they enter the business, how

522
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,279
they fail and fail and fail on stage. But those

523
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,640
are the necessary baby steps you need to take before

524
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,119
you can fly. I mean, I think every comedian's got

525
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,839
a story about them, face plan, I thing on stage.

526
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,079
It's just part of what it is. And even the

527
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,880
best I've had those issues. So I think the subject

528
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000
matter is fascinating, but the way they approach it in

529
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,599
this movie was just this is therapy for him, This

530
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,960
is him getting out what he needs to get out.

531
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,960
But can he make it creative and funny and compelling?

532
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:32,000
And that's another question.

533
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,359
Speaker 1: I think Will Arnette has a lot in his personal

534
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,519
life to draw when it comes to this story. Okay,

535
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:43,839
what about the absolute turkeys, the worst the movies? You

536
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,759
would tell those listening right now stay away from it,

537
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,680
like the Plague.

538
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: Ah, there's always a few of those. I'll start with

539
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,920
a movie that just left me scratching my head. It

540
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,079
was called The Alto Nights. I believe it's on HBO

541
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,440
Max right now if you dare to sample it. It's

542
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,279
a gangster movie with Robert de Niro in two different

543
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,440
gangster esque roles. Now why you'd cast him twice? I

544
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,200
just don't know. It's wildly distracting. The movie is an

545
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,519
absolute dud on almost every level. I think it might

546
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,599
have been based on a true story or true figures.

547
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:18,839
I'm not quite sure. My memories a little fuzzy on

548
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,480
that regard. I think it was directed by Barry Levins

549
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,720
and it's made great films in the past. But like

550
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:26,160
someone else we've you know, can talk about Rob Reiner

551
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,039
just lost their fastball when it comes to Yeah, sadly,

552
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:34,359
so that makes me sad when Francis Ford Coppola, you know,

553
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,319
I'm trying to think the Brianda Palmer comes to mind.

554
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: As Brian de Palma.

555
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Sure, just directors who gave us some great movies over

556
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,119
the years and just can't reclaim that glory certainly qualifies here.

557
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680
It made zero money the box office, and probably that's

558
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,720
even more than it deserved.

559
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,599
Speaker 1: There is a consolation note for de Niro and the

560
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,480
crew on that. I believe it'll be least through MSNBC

561
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:05,839
whatever they're calling themselves soon. I just, of course, but

562
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,759
that's where Robert de Niro seems to show up, you know,

563
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:13,160
after a few drinks these days. Anything else on the

564
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,440
wretched list for twenty twenty five, Yeah.

565
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:20,799
Speaker 2: A movie called Mickey seventeen. It's a futuristic tale about

566
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,640
a fellow who is cloned and cloned and cloned again

567
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,359
to be used by this corporate body for a kind

568
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,119
of quasi nefarious purposes. You know, it's a kind of

569
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,000
imaginative movie that I technically cheer on. You know, we

570
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,480
need more stories that are original and fresh and have

571
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:37,880
something to say. A lot of the politics. Here are

572
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,559
the cultural politics. It's pretty heavy in and again I

573
00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:42,559
get swallow that the movie is entertaining, but this is

574
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,720
a bust. Robert Pattinson does what he can with the material,

575
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,720
but it's just disastrous by the end. I just want

576
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:50,519
I was watching it at home and I just wanted

577
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,200
to switch away. But when you review a movie, you

578
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,000
have to stick to the very end, the bitter end,

579
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,640
and that one is a clunker. It made a little

580
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,559
bit of scratch at the box office, but the budget

581
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,480
was huge, so I'm sure it lost a lot of

582
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,559
money and sadly deserved it.

583
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is the casualty. You guys should actually

584
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,119
be paid casualty, some sort of stipend for that. To

585
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,240
have to watch some of these movies until the end.

586
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaking of Rob Reiner, one of and he has, you know,

587
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,720
particularly in his earlier years, fantastic movies. You mentioned some

588
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,119
of them. I think of Harry met Sally immediately. But

589
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:32,559
the one that really sticks with me in my formative

590
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,440
years came out about forty years ago. This is Spinal Tap.

591
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,599
I thought it, you know, as an aspiring rock and

592
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,839
roll musician. I loved it for that, I loved it

593
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,960
as a mockumentary, which was, you know, kind of new. Yeah,

594
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480
we hadn't seen a lot of that, and I just

595
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:57,279
I really liked the ensemble and I really liked Rob

596
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:02,240
Reiner as the documentarian because there wasn't any real politics.

597
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,759
And man, you can't beat Fred Willard either. So the sequel,

598
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,200
long awaited sequel, is coming out. Have you seen it

599
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,720
and what is your take on it?

600
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: Well? I just caught up with it this past week

601
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,720
and it came out in September. It was not screened

602
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,000
for many critics. Some it dip and it didn't get

603
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,880
to me. And you know, when I heard about the project,

604
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,400
I was a little excited because, like you, I adore

605
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,559
the first movie, and then I was really scared, thinking

606
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,640
what could they possibly do? This seems like this could

607
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440
go wrong in about twenty different directions. But you know,

608
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,759
these are very talented people. Even though Reiner hasn't made

609
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,079
a great movie in a while, he's still Rob Reiner.

610
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,880
And you know the trio of Starrs Michael McKeon and

611
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,480
Harry Shearer and Christopher Guest are super talented as well.

612
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:49,839
They've got great comic skills. How bad could it be?

613
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,359
And then I watched it, I thought, oh, it can

614
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,839
be this bad, and I think the saddest well, there's

615
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:57,720
so many sad elements of it, the fact that it

616
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:02,279
was unnecessary. But you can probably feel a small book

617
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:04,720
in all the ways this has gone wrong and all

618
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640
the missteps and mistakes. But also it just didn't have

619
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:12,679
a comic conceit, like why do they make this beyond

620
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,320
you know it's a you know, it's something it couldn't make.

621
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:17,599
It could be profitable based on they love that we

622
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,519
have for the original movies. So it's very sad that

623
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,000
Rob Reiner is gone. It's very sad that this last

624
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:26,199
movie is such a dysfunctional affair, but it is, and

625
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,400
I have to say it, and I don't wish, I

626
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,800
don't wish, I wish I could say anything else, but yeah,

627
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:37,199
A spinal tap two the end continues is just dreadful.

628
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: Sorry, it seems to me that most of America feels

629
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,679
the same way about that, at least based on the

630
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,280
box office proceeds.

631
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no real appetite for it. There was

632
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,199
no real reason for it. And you know, when you

633
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,440
have a movie with cameos by Elton John and Paul McCartney, too,

634
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,840
just absolute legends. Yeah, you make that work either, It's

635
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,519
just wow. It's just wow.

636
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,519
Speaker 1: Now just I guess they didn't want to do it,

637
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:03,280
and they didn't want to do it for years, and

638
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,800
they finally said, Okay, let's do it. Maybe for a

639
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,800
cash grab. I don't know, but it sounds like it

640
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,599
did not work out. I'll just have a few minutes left.

641
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,159
And it's the most wonderful time of the year when

642
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,159
it comes to Christmas movies, holiday movies, of course, And

643
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,679
I wanted to get a sense from you. What are

644
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,039
your favorite movies Christmas movies, holiday theme movies this time

645
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,639
of the year. And also, what are some of the

646
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,039
worst Christmas movies you have seen over your time in

647
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:38,719
this business.

648
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: A quick word on the worst. It was called Deck

649
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,920
the Halls. It's just an terrible movie. Terrible movie. Two

650
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,719
big stars, Mathew Broderick and Danny DeVito. They can seemingly

651
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,800
do wrong, but they do play wrong in that film.

652
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,079
I've only seen it once. I thought it was dreadful.

653
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:56,039
I would never punish myself again. You know, there have

654
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,800
been lots of mediocre films Christmas with the Cranks with

655
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,840
I think it was Tim Allen Jim Curtis was watchable

656
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,239
nothing more. It's funny because in the last maybe three

657
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,360
to five years, Hollywood has decided that they're going to

658
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,559
crank out. I don't know how many Christmas movies you

659
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,239
go on Netflix is a new title. They all have

660
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,320
cutesy brands and names. A lot of them don't have

661
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,519
big stars. They must be really economical to produce. I imagine

662
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,360
someone's watching them, because why else would they keep making

663
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,599
them and making them. But I will say that it's

664
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:32,400
really hard to make a classic. I think it was

665
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,840
called Red One from last year with Dwayne Johnson, and

666
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,320
if it was Folks with JK. Simmons and Santa. You know,

667
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,039
it was fine, it was watchable, it was forgettable. I

668
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,000
might watch it again someday. It wasn't as bad as

669
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,800
a lot of people said. But it just makes you

670
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,519
appreciate a movie like Elf all the more. And it

671
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,519
on Elf in that. I believe that Will Ferrell has

672
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,360
offered a lot of money to do a sequel and

673
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,840
he declined, And I just if I met him, I'd

674
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,920
hug him for that because it just needed It's so

675
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,440
perfect as is. But when director Jon Favreau, who also

676
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,639
did Swingers and a lot of other great films iron

677
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,440
Man as well. He made the movie as timeless as possible.

678
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,639
The songs are not the hit songs of two thousand

679
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:15,159
and three. I think that was the year, give or

680
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:19,440
take the dialogue. The references are not of the moment.

681
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,480
Then it just feels like you could watch it today,

682
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:24,840
you could watch it in ten years, and it's going

683
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,519
to be the same. And I have to say, I

684
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,440
don't think you know, Will Ferrell doesn't make great comedies anymore.

685
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,960
There's a lot of reasons for that. You could say

686
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,639
that the industry doesn't make up. You could say that

687
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:35,800
he's moved on to different things. You could say he's

688
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,159
lost his fastball as well creative as speaking. I don't know.

689
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:41,679
He's so perfect in that movie, and you watch it

690
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,400
again and again, and every year I do just that,

691
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,880
and I noticed something new about his performance, about his

692
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,000
physical shtick, about the gags, about the way things are

693
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:57,239
presented to us. It just doesn't age. It just gets

694
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,800
better and richer and funnier and more sweet with every year.

695
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,000
And then I think about the scene when Elf buddy

696
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,119
the Elf goes into the bathroom. He doesn't realize his

697
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,719
coworker Jovi is there. She's singing baby it's cold outside

698
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,000
to harmonize with her. Again, it's a scene that wouldn't

699
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,199
be made today for two reasons. To be oh my gosh,

700
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:18,920
she's in her bathroom. That's appropriate, and also, you know,

701
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,119
now that song is problematic, but it's so true to

702
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,039
character because Buddy the Elf was just innocent. He just

703
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,960
was all full of goodness. And sure he had a

704
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,719
little bit of crush on Jovie, but he didn't. He

705
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,000
wasn't being inappropriate. He just stumbled into a scene. And

706
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,119
that's what makes it so magical and so innocent and

707
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,320
just one of many many reasons why that's such a

708
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,280
breat movie. And you know, me saying Elf is my

709
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favorite Christmas movie is wildly unoriginal. A lot of people

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think that way, but I can't. I can't make up

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an obscure movie that I love in Christmas time. It's

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just Elf.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but he wasn't being a pervy Elfe

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in that scene, which you know is good.

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Speaker 3: By the way, that is.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the most acted names for the

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Santa's Team, Pervy Elf, among others. It went with Prancer

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in instead. Now it's amazing to me. That movie Elf stands.

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Speaker 3: Up for me.

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Speaker 1: Now, there's a big dispute over that among my Federalist colleagues.

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Some really love it, some really hate it, and for

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reasons of their own. I am in the loved camp.

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But I'm old school Christmas movie anyway. Other than you know,

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I know it's now what nearly forty years old, but

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Christmas Vacation still remains one of my favorite. But I'm

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talking about my favorite of all time, and maybe I'm

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in the dying breed because nobody in my family seems

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to know what it is. But it's a wonderful life

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Frank Capra classic. Of course, that wasn't such a classic,

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and it's time, as I understand it. But why can't

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they make movies like that any.

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean you're asking for a lot. That's a movie

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that transcends the generations, that's so perfect and magical and wonderful.

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You know, Hollywood is such a complicated business that making

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a great movie is almost like a series of accidents

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that happened together. So there's that. I think the innocence

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and the sweetness have gone out of style in Hollywood,

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you know, I think Hollywood is about edge and cynicism

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and darkness, and we're gonna make a Sanda movie, but

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he's gonna be this killer. He's gonna be a serial

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killer who's You're more likely to see things like that

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than anything else. So there's no one quite like Frank

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Kaeper anymore. And you know, the Christmas movies that we

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see are they've got either an action comedy bent to them,

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or there's some sort of gimmick or twist a gosh.

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I don't know. It's a really hard question to ask,

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but I just think the culture has changed, and I

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don't think that's a I don't think that's a positive

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thing to say, because that's just such a magical movie.

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I'd also mentioned a Miracle on thirty fourth Street, which

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is oh yeah as well and holds up beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Again, those those old beautiful films. You know, whatever version

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you want of Scrooge, Christmas Carol, even Bill Murray's Scrooged,

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I enjoy too, my family's dismay. Final question for you, Christian,

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do you think on this topic of Christmas films, do

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you think Trump ought to issue an executive order demanding

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that Hallmark stop peddling this crap?

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Speaker 2: I think he's got bigger fish to fry. You know,

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I'm not a Hallmark watcher, but it's scratching an itch

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out there. And if people are enjoying those films, and

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the budgets are low and probably keeps a lot of

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people gainfully employed. So I can't get too up in

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arms about that. It just when I go on Netflix

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and I see the crush on your titles, I just

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I almost get physically exhausted by it. But you know,

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if people are enjoying them, but they get some pleasure

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out of them, I can't get too high.

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Speaker 1: Up on my high horse. It is the same movie

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over and over again. You do about that, right, It's

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just with a different cast, perhaps a different setting, but yes,

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it's a different movie altogether. Well, as always, I appreciate

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I'd love to check in with you because you know,

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you're one of the best reviewers out there for my money,

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and I make your page pretty much a constant read.

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All kinds of great content on there. And then of

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course you've got the podcast. What do you have coming

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up on that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I dig into the Sydney Sweeney situation.

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Oh can I compare her to another actress? Who said

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something quite different, and how Hollywood is treating the two situations.

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I think that's important. But that's what I do with

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the Hollywood and Twitter podcast. I connect dots that I

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think other people maybe aren't connecting. I give right of

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center artists a chance to shine. I cover some media

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stories that other outlets aren't really paying attention to but should,

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and yeah do it every week. And then I also

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have a show called Short on a Hollywood. It's a

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short literally under a minute, and I covered latest Hollywood

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headlines with a little bit of snark, a little bit

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of silliness, and a little bit of a right of

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center perspective. So I do hope people check that out

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as well.

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Speaker 1: All the reasons above why I continue and have for

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a long time checked out Hollywood and Toto and all

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the content that's available there. Push you a very merry

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Christmas in a very happy and prosperous new year. My friend,

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Thank you. I was enjoy our conversations. I do too,

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thanks to my guest today, Christian Toto. Again, he is

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the founder, a creator. He does it all Hollywood in

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Toto hollywoodintoto dot com. You've been listening to another edition

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of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm at Kittle, Senior Elections

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correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more.

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Till then, stay, lovers of freedom, anxious for the Thaya